WEBVTT - Pride, from Protest to Parade: “As American as apple pie.”

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<v Speaker 1>Ruby and for a while Bob was part of the

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<v Speaker 1>Palm Springs Pride right on his way to the hospital.

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<v Speaker 2>I was very stoned at the time.

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<v Speaker 3>From just beyond the lights of Los Angeles and steamy

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<v Speaker 3>Palm Springs, California, It's Mick Robert Bill just say, and

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<v Speaker 3>this is silver lightning with.

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<v Speaker 1>The old days.

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<v Speaker 3>We're back, kids, and yes the rumors are true. Back

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<v Speaker 3>with a very special bonus episode all about Pride.

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<v Speaker 4>Just in time for Palm Springs Pride, which yes, is

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<v Speaker 4>in November, not June.

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<v Speaker 5>There was a time when pride met marching in fear

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<v Speaker 5>of getting arrested. Now it means walking down the street

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<v Speaker 5>in fear of getting sunburned.

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<v Speaker 4>But at its heart, it's about freedom, visibility, and being

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<v Speaker 4>surrounded by the kind of joy only made by queer

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<v Speaker 4>people together.

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<v Speaker 3>So how did this thing get started?

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<v Speaker 4>In June of nineteen sixty nine, the New York City

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<v Speaker 4>Police Department rated a little bar in New York City

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<v Speaker 4>called the Stone Wall Inn. It was something they always did,

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<v Speaker 4>but that night the people inside fought back.

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<v Speaker 6>Some say butch Lesbian started it. Some say Marsha P.

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<v Speaker 6>Johnson threw the first brick, But either way, Pride started

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<v Speaker 6>because queer folks got sick of being harassed, arrested and

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<v Speaker 6>treated terribly.

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<v Speaker 3>So Pride was a rebellion long before it was a parade,

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<v Speaker 3>and we celebrate to remember that and who we are

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<v Speaker 3>in community with others.

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<v Speaker 5>The four of us have been going to Pride since before.

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<v Speaker 5>Some of you were even as.

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<v Speaker 4>I got I would say most of you.

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<v Speaker 5>So today's episode is all about our fondest Pride memories.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, then let's get to it.

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<v Speaker 4>All right, gentlemen. What Pride event did you attend where

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<v Speaker 4>you discovered that you were part of something really big?

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<v Speaker 6>Well, for me, it was the first Pride I went to,

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<v Speaker 6>which was in the early eighties in San Francisco, And

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<v Speaker 6>when I looked up Market Street and saw all of

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<v Speaker 6>those people just cheering, it made me feel like I

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<v Speaker 6>was really part of something. They were also in two

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<v Speaker 6>two's and drag and all those other wonderful things that

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<v Speaker 6>they do.

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<v Speaker 4>So it was very colorful.

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<v Speaker 6>It was extremely colorful, and the vibe, you could just

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<v Speaker 6>feel the vibe in the air. Everybody had a grin,

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<v Speaker 6>everybody was happy. It was just a joyous occasion just

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<v Speaker 6>to look at it.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I think our audiences really don't remember or feel

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<v Speaker 4>the excitement that we felt because the closet door was

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<v Speaker 4>finally open. We were with people who were like ourselves

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<v Speaker 4>that we were celebrating just being ourselves, just being alive.

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<v Speaker 4>And I think it was like a big, big fraternity,

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<v Speaker 4>and you know, it was just special. You were with friends,

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<v Speaker 4>and you made eight friends, and you found lovers and dates,

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<v Speaker 4>and it was it just became your whole social life

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<v Speaker 4>was revolving around it.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, it was a very very big thing for me

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<v Speaker 6>to go to my first pride. I've never felt so

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<v Speaker 6>proud in my entire life.

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<v Speaker 4>To say you were going to say something.

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<v Speaker 3>My first pride was in who. It was a shocker.

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<v Speaker 3>It was overwhelming because I'd never seen so many. I'd

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<v Speaker 3>learned what a wife beater was, but I got tired

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<v Speaker 3>of seeing blonde muscles all over. That's all you saw

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<v Speaker 3>were these blondes and big, big muscle bodies, which was

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<v Speaker 3>overwhelming for a little wimp that had come from Nebraska,

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<v Speaker 3>you know. But my eyes were wide and it was

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<v Speaker 3>it was very freeing to be in a gay crowd.

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<v Speaker 3>I'd been in church all this time in child. This

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<v Speaker 3>is a new worship experience and still continues to be

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<v Speaker 3>here in Palm Springs because I was at their first

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<v Speaker 3>one also, which lasted about fifteen minutes, and I felt

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<v Speaker 3>like a parent. I was so proud of Palm Springs

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<v Speaker 3>for just starting. I don't remember what year it was.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, like Bill, my first Pride experience was going to

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<v Speaker 5>the Pride parade in San Francisco in nineteen eighty, right

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<v Speaker 5>after I had moved to the city, and my roommates

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<v Speaker 5>kept telling me about the Pride event and the parade

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<v Speaker 5>and all, and so when we actually went, I had

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<v Speaker 5>never seen so many people being so joyous and celebratory

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<v Speaker 5>in the streets, said, being themselves, and it was really

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<v Speaker 5>a very good dealing.

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<v Speaker 4>The first Pride I attended was in nineteen seventy nine

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<v Speaker 4>in West Hollywood, and that was the first year in

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<v Speaker 4>West Hollywood because the city. In prior years the parade

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<v Speaker 4>was held on Yucker Street in Hollywood. But Ed Davis,

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<v Speaker 4>who was the at that time the chief of the LAPD,

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<v Speaker 4>finally said we're not going to say issue any permits

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<v Speaker 4>to you guys anymore because this is an illegal assembly.

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<v Speaker 4>At that time, homosexuality was still illegal in California, and

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<v Speaker 4>so they moved it to West Hollywood. Which was unincorporated,

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<v Speaker 4>and the Sheriff's department was much easier to deal with.

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<v Speaker 4>And yes, there were nothing but blonde, blue eyed Musselman,

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<v Speaker 4>of which I was one.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh blonde.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, Pride was not the first idea to name

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<v Speaker 4>the parade. The first gay parades were actually in celebration

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<v Speaker 4>of what was then known as gay power, because this

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<v Speaker 4>was the time of black power, this was the time

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<v Speaker 4>of Chicano power, this was the time of women's power.

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<v Speaker 4>And the first permitted Pride parade was in Los Angeles

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<v Speaker 4>in nineteen seventy and that was a pretty big event

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<v Speaker 4>for a city the size of Los Angeles to give

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<v Speaker 4>a permit for a public assembly in celebration of something

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<v Speaker 4>that was illegal. And you have to think about those

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<v Speaker 4>times because they're completely different from where we are now.

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<v Speaker 6>One thing that I really enjoy seeing now is the

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<v Speaker 6>amount of families that come out to watch the gay

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<v Speaker 6>Pride parade, because I mean for little kids, I mean

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<v Speaker 6>guys around in two two's and that kind of thing.

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<v Speaker 6>And also it's sort of a sentimental thing since I

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<v Speaker 6>came out when I was in high school. But I

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<v Speaker 6>really enjoy seeing from all over the valley the gay

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<v Speaker 6>straight Alliance because if I would have just had that

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<v Speaker 6>kind of club when I came out in high school,

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<v Speaker 6>it would have been so nice just to be able

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<v Speaker 6>to express myself as I really wanted to do instead

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<v Speaker 6>of pretending to be this straight guy. But those clubs,

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<v Speaker 6>I think are just absolutely joy and I'm sure that

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<v Speaker 6>they get a lot of inner support.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, there has been a change from like when

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<v Speaker 4>Jesse and I first attended our first gay Pride, we

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<v Speaker 4>were pretty still really closeted.

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<v Speaker 3>We weren't really in extremely.

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<v Speaker 4>We were wearing just normal clothes, normal meaning street clothes.

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<v Speaker 4>There was no expression like you see now. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>what I also think is it's easier for people now,

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<v Speaker 4>for younger generations to come out to a pride event.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, at the first Pride event I attended, there

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<v Speaker 4>were no cameras. Nobody wanted their picture taken because you could.

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<v Speaker 4>You could lose your house, you could be thrown out

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<v Speaker 4>of your apartment, you could be fired, and so those

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<v Speaker 4>kinds of things were very much of people's lines.

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<v Speaker 3>To say, how have you seen pride change? You know,

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<v Speaker 3>at ours, I'm the only pride I go to is

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<v Speaker 3>this one. And in Palm Springs and I'm just grinning

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<v Speaker 3>the whole time, just seeing how we've grown as the people,

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<v Speaker 3>and it's a lot of fun and all about hugs, hugs, hugs,

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<v Speaker 3>and my cheeks are exhausted at the end of a

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<v Speaker 3>parade from grinning and laughing and the love that's just

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<v Speaker 3>coming back to us. It's still like we kind of

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<v Speaker 3>first began. You still get overwhelmed by it, but in

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<v Speaker 3>a great way. Thank you all, yes for the love

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<v Speaker 3>you give us. We live for it, especially when Bob's there.

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<v Speaker 5>I remember the first Pride parade in Palm Springs and

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<v Speaker 5>it was on this neighborhood street next to a park,

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<v Speaker 5>and it was about four or five blocks long, and

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<v Speaker 5>there were maybe half a dozen convertibles and maybe two

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<v Speaker 5>hundred people, including both the parade participants and the spectators.

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<v Speaker 6>What is your favorite ass respect of Pride, holy experience,

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<v Speaker 6>the whole banana?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but the people.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, the people stand out because these are a

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<v Speaker 5>lot of individuals trying not to be an individual, but

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<v Speaker 5>something special and as you said earlier, families, mothers, fathers, kids,

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<v Speaker 5>as well as members of the community. So I mean

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<v Speaker 5>my favorite thing literally is watching the people. I mean,

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<v Speaker 5>first of all, everybody is really really hyped up. But

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<v Speaker 5>just seeing all the various people in their states of

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<v Speaker 5>dress and undress and costumes and that I think it's

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<v Speaker 5>absolutely fabulous.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, I didn't think about all the parades I

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<v Speaker 4>used to tended West Hollywood and how it's grown and

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<v Speaker 4>you can have many experiences on a day of Gay Pride.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm good and bad, But the best part about it

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<v Speaker 4>is walking around the fair, cruising other guys with your

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<v Speaker 4>shirt off and in that beautiful California son.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I second that, Mick. I think that's part of

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<v Speaker 6>the glory of it too.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. And I always did that with my body, No,

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<v Speaker 3>I lust did, and I still do it muscles.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, Like I said, you know, the first gay Pride

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<v Speaker 4>event I attended, I ended up meaning a lot of people,

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<v Speaker 4>but a door introduced me to another door, which and

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<v Speaker 4>that's how gay light recedes.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 4>It's like this big network, but it's some of the

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<v Speaker 4>contacts that you make at an event like this that

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<v Speaker 4>that can change the directory of your life.

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<v Speaker 5>One of the things I appreciate about these events is

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<v Speaker 5>just seeing the creativity of so many people in terms

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<v Speaker 5>of what they're wearing and the way the floats are

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<v Speaker 5>decorated in the marching units and everything.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just.

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<v Speaker 5>Being an artist. I appreciate that a lot.

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<v Speaker 4>Maybe this is backtracking, but what are your favorite Pride

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<v Speaker 4>event moments.

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<v Speaker 5>I have very vivid memories. So one in San Francisco

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<v Speaker 5>in the late nineteen eighties, my next door neighbor was

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<v Speaker 5>part of a drag group known as the Balloon Girls,

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<v Speaker 5>and they sponsored an entry afloat in the parade and

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<v Speaker 5>one Donnie asked me if I would like to drive

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<v Speaker 5>the truck for the clothes, and I said I'd love to.

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<v Speaker 5>And so it was this big Mac truck with a

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<v Speaker 5>large flat bed, all decorated in balloons, of course, and

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<v Speaker 5>I was above the crowd. And when I made that turn,

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<v Speaker 5>I looked down Market Street and it was a mass

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<v Speaker 5>of people as far as the eye could see. And

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<v Speaker 5>I think that year they estimated the crowd at over

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<v Speaker 5>a million people. Well, I have two memories also, One

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<v Speaker 5>was in San Francisco and one in Palm Springs, and

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<v Speaker 5>it was my first Pride parade. I had a place

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<v Speaker 5>on Market I could go to friends, had to second

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<v Speaker 5>story attorney's office, so I had a view from the top,

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<v Speaker 5>and all of a sudden, the earth started to shake,

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<v Speaker 5>and that's what it.

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<v Speaker 4>Sounded, and the buildings way.

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<v Speaker 3>And the queens are flying, and.

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<v Speaker 6>All of a sudden, all of these dikes on bikes

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<v Speaker 6>came through and I looked and there was all of

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<v Speaker 6>them wearing black leather, and in the back I saw

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<v Speaker 6>too lesbian. One of them was wearing white, and literally

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<v Speaker 6>she was sitting on the lap of her partner who

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<v Speaker 6>was driving the bike. And the closer she got, I

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<v Speaker 6>realized she was also top plus. And these two lesbians

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<v Speaker 6>were They were huge, they were absolutely huge. And these

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<v Speaker 6>two lesbians facing each other.

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<v Speaker 3>And the second.

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<v Speaker 6>The second funniest thing I ever saw, and it involved Bob,

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<v Speaker 6>and it was in Palm Spring's Pride. Oh Lord, and

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<v Speaker 6>we've told this story before, but but Bob was really

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<v Speaker 6>having a good time, very very early in the morning,

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<v Speaker 6>and all of a sudden, just say looked at Bob

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<v Speaker 6>who was standing there, and he started sliding down the post.

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<v Speaker 3>So no, no, no, no, he was sitting on the

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<v Speaker 3>stool first, and then he started bending over. Oh that's right.

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<v Speaker 6>Then he shoted bending over and we knew something was amiss,

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<v Speaker 6>and they called nine to one one, and all of

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<v Speaker 6>a sudden, the EMTs showed up, put Bob on a

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<v Speaker 6>gurney and for a while Bob was part of the

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<v Speaker 6>Palm Springs Pride.

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<v Speaker 3>Parade on his way to the hospital.

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<v Speaker 5>On the way to the hospital, and I was just

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<v Speaker 5>waving at the crowd with a big smile on my face.

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<v Speaker 3>I was very happy, stoned at the time.

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<v Speaker 7>Yes, we'll be right back after a quick break.

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<v Speaker 3>Welcome back to Silver Lines with the old gates.

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<v Speaker 4>I would like to know personally, what does pride mean

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<v Speaker 4>to each of you, or in other words, pride is

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<v Speaker 4>what just saying.

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<v Speaker 3>Pride is freedom for me, and pride is family my

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<v Speaker 3>new family.

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<v Speaker 6>Pride to me is allowing gay people to celebrate their

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<v Speaker 6>identity and to affirm that they are worth something as

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<v Speaker 6>a person.

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<v Speaker 5>For me, pride means feeling very relaxed and confident about

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<v Speaker 5>who I am and you know, being happy about it,

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<v Speaker 5>feeling spiritually uplifted about who I am and not having

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<v Speaker 5>any questions what's soever at having made the wrong choice

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<v Speaker 5>because it's not a choice.

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<v Speaker 4>No, no, you know. I thought a little bit about

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<v Speaker 4>what pride means, and I went back to when we

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<v Speaker 4>were in Las Vegas last year and we were in

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<v Speaker 4>the car waving at people because we were the Grand

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<v Speaker 4>Marshals and we had a motorcycle escort from the Las

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<v Speaker 4>Vegas Police Department, and you kind of think, oh wow,

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<v Speaker 4>we've really come a long way. And I realized I

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<v Speaker 4>am standing on the shoulders of so many millions of

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<v Speaker 4>queer people who sacrificed their lives for what we have today.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't think we emphasized it that much, because you know,

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<v Speaker 4>we stressed the celebration and the joy. But that is

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<v Speaker 4>a part of it, is that each of us in

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<v Speaker 4>this room, the four of us, have sacrificed in some

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<v Speaker 4>way as a queer person. If you want to understand

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<v Speaker 4>gay pride, that's what gay pride is about. Is about

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<v Speaker 4>the sacrifice of some people's for their own lives. And

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<v Speaker 4>those are the people of whom we stand upon their

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<v Speaker 4>shoulders countless. Because we talk about the fact that pride

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<v Speaker 4>began with the rebellion, with a riot, well how did

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<v Speaker 4>this country begin? So you know, our story here is

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<v Speaker 4>as American as apple pie.

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<v Speaker 5>You referred to being in last year's Lost Vegas Pride

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<v Speaker 5>parade and being accompanied by a police escort. I recalled

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<v Speaker 5>there were probably fitting to twenty cops of motorcycles, all

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<v Speaker 5>around and behind us. And I remember having the thought

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<v Speaker 5>at that time that when I first really started participating

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<v Speaker 5>in the gay world in the late sixties early seventies,

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<v Speaker 5>police were arresting us simply for going into a gay bar.

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<v Speaker 5>And now we were being escorted by a massive number

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<v Speaker 5>of police, and that struck me as one of the

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<v Speaker 5>biggest changes that have happened.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you know, the number of times have been followed

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<v Speaker 4>by the police after leaving a gay bar. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>those days are really at least here over in California.

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<v Speaker 4>But I you know, there are places in the world

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<v Speaker 4>in which you know, it's not only illegal, but you know,

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<v Speaker 4>you can be punishable by death. And I think we

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<v Speaker 4>have to understand that that experience is also part of pride.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, it's also about those who cannot speak yet.

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<v Speaker 4>For me, the future of pride is I hope to

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<v Speaker 4>be surprised the world that we grew up in doesn't

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<v Speaker 4>exist anymore, okay, you know, I mean we're going to

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<v Speaker 4>be entering a world of you know, machines deciding who

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<v Speaker 4>we are, what we are, and when we're going.

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<v Speaker 3>To do it, you know, And.

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<v Speaker 4>That's a big challenge ahead, and it's very different than

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<v Speaker 4>the one we faced.

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<v Speaker 3>I hope it's still here. With all the craziness going on,

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<v Speaker 3>it bothers me, but I just hope it's still going.

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<v Speaker 6>I think another thing that's encouraging about pride is that

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<v Speaker 6>it is slowly being celebrated around the world big and

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<v Speaker 6>that I think that's a big step forward.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't think there's uh put in he putting up

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<v Speaker 5>the tiger back into the cage.

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<v Speaker 4>The continuing struggle of this movement. It really belongs to

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<v Speaker 4>another generation now. But you got to have friends. The

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<v Speaker 4>feelings are so strong. You got to have friends to

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<v Speaker 4>make the day last.

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<v Speaker 3>Long had some friends.

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<v Speaker 4>But something came and took them away and from the

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<v Speaker 4>dust onto the dawn. Here is where I'll stay. I've

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<v Speaker 4>got to stay. That's what pride is about. Watch out,

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<v Speaker 4>he's got a record tomorrow. What is the silver lining

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<v Speaker 4>of celebrating pride.

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<v Speaker 6>I think pride itself is silver.

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<v Speaker 3>Linings in what way?

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<v Speaker 6>We have marriages now which we never had before, And

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<v Speaker 6>I just think we're making great progress.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I would say we have made great progress. And

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<v Speaker 4>now comes the time too, as they say, secure the ground.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, yeah, just keep it, keep your pride. Don't

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<v Speaker 3>allow people to beat you down, celebrate yourself, and fight

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<v Speaker 3>for yourself.

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<v Speaker 5>To me, the silver lining of gay pride, as exemplified

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<v Speaker 5>by the pride celebrations and parades, is just that this

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<v Speaker 5>is what life is all about. It's a celebration of being.

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<v Speaker 3>Thanks for tuning in, folks. We hope to be back

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<v Speaker 3>with more stories and lessons to share soon, but until then,

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<v Speaker 3>thanks for following along. Silver Linings is a production of

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<v Speaker 5>Coffee, sir, get half a CuPy up, No sweetener, I'm sweeten.

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<v Speaker 2>I had some dreams. They were clouds in my coffee,

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<v Speaker 2>clouds in my coffee. You're so vain, you probably think

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<v Speaker 2>this song is just about you. You're soul vain. You

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<v Speaker 2>probably think the song is about you, about you, know

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<v Speaker 2>what they think. Who they're referring to