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Speaker 3: is going to be on a topic that somebody sent
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Speaker 3: to the Outlanders Comic dot com. And you know what,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna just lay it down. I'm just gonna dive
Speaker 3: into this very very interesting article that was sent to
Speaker 3: me by my friend Maureen today. Mm hmm, you guys, wow,
Speaker 3: I mean as well. This actually was published today and
Speaker 3: my eyeballs almost fell out of my head. And I
Speaker 3: think I think it's very timely. I think it's very
Speaker 3: much needed, and I think it's a nod to us
Speaker 3: folks who have been looking into stranger topics for certain.
Speaker 3: And I think I've mentioned a couple of times here
Speaker 3: on this program that when it comes to Catholicism, to
Speaker 3: the whole belief system, like I'm Christian, you know, And
Speaker 3: I've often been corrected by those who are Catholic, you know.
Speaker 3: I'd say, oh, you're Christian too, Like, no, I'm Catholic,
Speaker 3: and I didn't understand that, and like you believe in Christ, right,
Speaker 3: Like okay, then we're on the same wavelength, you know.
Speaker 3: But they're very different, very different. I think there's always
Speaker 3: different degrees in different belief systems. And I was really
Speaker 3: surprised to find out how absolutely supernatural the Catholic beliefs
Speaker 3: are and what they look into, like they look to miracles,
Speaker 3: they look to the mystical. Like that's a word I
Speaker 3: haven't even used a whole lot in my days, mystical,
Speaker 3: because I always like get this image of my head
Speaker 3: conjured up of somebody's sitting there with a crystal ball, right,
Speaker 3: and like mystical, I don't know, And there's a lot
Speaker 3: of purple involved, and I like purple, but it's just
Speaker 3: I don't know, I don't know what that is. It's
Speaker 3: like it just seems to be. It's something I just
Speaker 3: I never thought, I never thought to look, it's I
Speaker 3: don't even know how to express the bewilderment when I
Speaker 3: was first kind of put on to the topic of
Speaker 3: Catholicism and the different people that they feel have different
Speaker 3: abilities the word by location. It sounds so odd, but
Speaker 3: I really hadn't heard of that before. People that could
Speaker 3: be in more than one place at a time, like
Speaker 3: that blew my mind, Like hold it, that's been acknowledged
Speaker 3: by others, Like I know, I've experienced it myself, but
Speaker 3: I didn't know the word for it, and it's not
Speaker 3: what happened. There's the the thought of being able to heal.
Speaker 3: Now that's controversial. I have heard of retreats all over
Speaker 3: the world right that have people who say they're able
Speaker 3: to heal, calling upon different methods to do that. Some
Speaker 3: feel it comes just straight from themselves. Others say, you know,
Speaker 3: other deities or God or Jesus or some say aliens. Yeah,
Speaker 3: even even aliens. It's it's a it's the world is
Speaker 3: fascinating and yeah so and then there's also places that
Speaker 3: have healing powers, that's believed to have healing powers, and
Speaker 3: so people do this thing that I have been looking into,
Speaker 3: like pilgrimages, Like pilgrimages like hold on like and to
Speaker 3: watch the videos of people flocking to a place where
Speaker 3: they thought something mystical or miraculous happened and then they
Speaker 3: might experience it for themselves. Even one of my good friends,
Speaker 3: Kevin Kevin Cook, he he was a Methodist minister and
Speaker 3: he went to a shrine somewhere in New York and
Speaker 3: I think I think he shared it when it came
Speaker 3: on the show one time, and yeah, he just thought,
Speaker 3: I go check out the shrine. It was Catholic and
Speaker 3: mary some kind of dedication to me shrine. And he's
Speaker 3: walking through the woods to get up to the chapel
Speaker 3: and he was overwhelmed by a really strong smell of roses,
Speaker 3: and you know, it gets up to the chapel and
Speaker 3: he's like, my goodness, where are the rose bushes? Because man,
Speaker 3: you know, just hit him so hard. And they looked
Speaker 3: at him like you smell the roses and he's like, yeah,
Speaker 3: you know, where did that come from? And they're like, oh,
Speaker 3: that's one of the miracles of this place, you know.
Speaker 3: And that's when he knew he had to look at
Speaker 3: the topic and actually converted. You know, that was one
Speaker 3: of the trigger points. I mean unsuspecting person. You know,
Speaker 3: so there's there's something going on. And same when it
Speaker 3: comes to the topics of people claiming to see Mary
Speaker 3: in different parts of the world. Okay, And I have
Speaker 3: seen the videos of some of the children who've witnessed Mary,
Speaker 3: like at Gara Bandahal and the children are running backwards
Speaker 3: up a hill doing things that are just absolutely impossible,
Speaker 3: and you know, it's it's fascinating. Some people will say,
Speaker 3: oh gosh, it looks possessed. Oh my goodness that you know.
Speaker 3: I don't know what it all is. I'm not a psychic.
Speaker 3: I'm not an expert on these things. And people have
Speaker 3: their assumptions about whatever. All I know is it's really
Speaker 3: really fascinating and something's going on, plain and simple. Something's happening.
Speaker 3: As a scholar I once knew says, you know, something's happening.
Speaker 3: Whatever it is, it's worthy of us to lend our
Speaker 3: eyeball in our minds too. And I have been learning
Speaker 3: looking into these things myself, because it's like God spoke
Speaker 3: right and people wrote it down, but for some reason
Speaker 3: a lot of people think God's not talking as much
Speaker 3: as he used to. And I think that's a mistake
Speaker 3: to think that. I think there's a lot that's going
Speaker 3: on in the world that's miraculous, you know, to put
Speaker 3: it under a certain category or to funnel it under
Speaker 3: one denomination, I don't think that's the case at all.
Speaker 3: I think there's a lot of people who are just
Speaker 3: not always congregating getting together under a church and say, hey,
Speaker 3: this happened. I think there's a lot of mystical and
Speaker 3: magical and miraculous events that if we paid more attention
Speaker 3: to them, and if they got the media attention, people
Speaker 3: would realize not everything's bad and negative out there. There's
Speaker 3: some really tremendous things that show God is real. God
Speaker 3: is around doing things. But then you know, a lot
Speaker 3: of people are getting confused when it comes to hold it.
Speaker 3: The government says, there's UFOs. I'm sorry, UAPs out there?
Speaker 3: What are ups? Oh, well, let's redefine it. We're gonna
Speaker 3: say they are things that we aren't flying. Perhaps there's
Speaker 3: a private group of people flying them. We don't know
Speaker 3: if they're aliens, but we suspect not, or maybe a
Speaker 3: whole lot of answers in that right anomalous objects, no
Speaker 3: aerial objects, they don't know. So knowing and hearing that,
Speaker 3: and also hearing that the Vatican has said, you know,
Speaker 3: we'd welcome our space brothers and sisters. It must confuse
Speaker 3: a lot of people out there to wonder. Well, then
Speaker 3: we're where does that bring our belief system to if
Speaker 3: if we're actually saying something else is out there, if
Speaker 3: we're actually acknowledging our brother or sister, our mother or
Speaker 3: father saw something, we're to believe this, where is that?
Speaker 3: Put our faith in God? Hold it? Where is God?
Speaker 3: Is he floating in space? He on a ship somewhere?
Speaker 3: Personally that those little details like that, I don't think
Speaker 3: that matters so much faith. I think a lot of
Speaker 3: people have realized that having faith kind of goes a
Speaker 3: long way. Prayer goes a long way. We notice that
Speaker 3: we feel it, and we also search for these things, right,
Speaker 3: I mean, why are we searching because we think somehow
Speaker 3: it connects to our meaning in life? Up. Well, you guys,
Speaker 3: you're in for an interesting show today because this article
Speaker 3: I'm going to read to you it's going to knock
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Speaker 3: with me, Lighty Hollis Anni iHeart Radio at Coach to
Speaker 3: Coach AM Paranormal Podcast Network. As mentioned before the break,
Speaker 3: I wanted to dive into the topic of what the
Speaker 3: Vatican is up to lately, and how they're going to
Speaker 3: be addressing some of the more mysterious elements in the
Speaker 3: world that we tend to talk about here on this show.
Speaker 3: And I find it fascinating. I mean, it is just fascinating,
Speaker 3: and I've wondered how are people going to handle some
Speaker 3: of these big questions out there in the world when
Speaker 3: it comes to aliens. You know, shadow people, hat man. Okay,
Speaker 3: we could throw that into the category of being demonic
Speaker 3: and it fits right, But there's the alien element. And
Speaker 3: I think though, and a lot of people speculated this
Speaker 3: over the years when it comes to the alien aspect,
Speaker 3: that perhaps they were, some were demonic, some were angelic.
Speaker 3: The way that these things look and how they're described
Speaker 3: in the Bible, they don't always sound very human, these angels.
Speaker 3: So what are we saying? I don't know. It's kind
Speaker 3: of fun to have a look and to think on it.
Speaker 3: I don't think anybody has all the answers. I always say,
Speaker 3: if somebody says they do, run run from them, far, far,
Speaker 3: far away. But without further ado, I'm going to dive
Speaker 3: into this. Oh well, there goes my computer to dive
Speaker 3: on into this article. I swear as soon as I
Speaker 3: said I'm going to dive into like everything went gobblygook
Speaker 3: on my computer here just for a brief moment, but
Speaker 3: to be expected, to be expected, I have some odd
Speaker 3: things that like to get excited around me. So anyways,
Speaker 3: here we go. So this article this comes to us
Speaker 3: from the Dailymail dot com. All right, and the title says,
Speaker 3: Vatican Academy will pro mystical phenomena around the world, including
Speaker 3: weeping statues of Mary, stigmata and ghost sightings, under plans
Speaker 3: to set up new observatory new observatory guys, and the
Speaker 3: subtitle reads Pontifical Marianna International Academy says there are of
Speaker 3: cases to probe and the Holy See Institution hopes to
Speaker 3: uncover phenomena like weeping statues of Mary. There are several
Speaker 3: examples of Virgin Mary statues weeping blood or tears. Actually,
Speaker 3: that's a phenomena that I've looked into as well and
Speaker 3: was amazed, amazed at some of the findings. A long
Speaker 3: time ago, there was an episode called Signs from God
Speaker 3: and what they did was put science to test faith,
Speaker 3: and I think that was the subtitle of the show
Speaker 3: something like that. So It was fascinating to me that
Speaker 3: was some time ago that that show came out and
Speaker 3: they were able to prove there was a mystery going on.
Speaker 3: I mean, they did an MRI scan on a statue
Speaker 3: that was producing tears, and they tested the tears, and
Speaker 3: then there was blood coming out of another one and
Speaker 3: they tested the blood. And it's just fascinating. You can
Speaker 3: find actually that that program is on YouTube, I believe
Speaker 3: somewhere scattered. But yeah, I mean so there's a lot
Speaker 3: of different things out there like that. All right, So continuing,
Speaker 3: but I'm curious about what's going on today, all right.
Speaker 3: A Vatican academy is set to investigate quote, mystical phenomena
Speaker 3: around the world, including weeping statues of the Virgin Mary,
Speaker 3: stigmata and ghost sightings. Did you hear it? Ghost sightings
Speaker 3: under plans for a new dedicated observatory, the Pontifical Marina.
Speaker 3: I don't know if they say Marianna International Academy. In
Speaker 3: other words, Pa M I Pammy, which describes itself as
Speaker 3: a scientific institution of the Holy See, will hope to
Speaker 3: uncover around a hundred ongoing phenomena in Italy alone. The
Speaker 3: specialist Observatory which is still awaiting authenticity by the Church,
Speaker 3: will quote evaluate and study apparitions and mystical phenomena across
Speaker 3: the globe. The Vatican News reports it will delve into
Speaker 3: ghost sightings, interior locutions and stigmata locutions that's with a you, okay,
Speaker 3: which believers see as bodily marks, scars or pains corresponding
Speaker 3: to the crucifixion wounds of Jesus Christ. On the launch
Speaker 3: of the new Observatory Scientific Committee, Marriologists, father Gianne Matteo
Speaker 3: Roggio told local Italian media. Yeah, quote in Italy, there
Speaker 3: are around a hundred ongoing phenomena that the church is
Speaker 3: following closely. Now. From what I've read and been looking into,
Speaker 3: this is what the church does. I mean back in
Speaker 3: way back in the times, like if you did something
Speaker 3: that was blasphemous against the what the church thought was
Speaker 3: correct in the eyes of God or the Bible. I mean,
Speaker 3: things happened, right, there were trials, there were which hunts,
Speaker 3: as they say, and just a lot of a lot
Speaker 3: of a lot of turmoil. If people were thought to
Speaker 3: be offending God. So things and people being investigated, that's
Speaker 3: not new. Putting it under this, guys, of you know, observing, learning,
Speaker 3: seeing what's going on in the world, looking for the miracles.
Speaker 3: It's like it's like a miracle team they're looking for
Speaker 3: all over the world. And I am curious. I don't
Speaker 3: see anything that says only if you happen to be Catholic.
Speaker 3: I don't see that saying here. But so the next
Speaker 3: section of this it has a couple of images of
Speaker 3: statuettes of Mary with blood obviously blood coming down or
Speaker 3: drying on their face, and it says it's kind of
Speaker 3: repeating miscal phenomena around the world. And this show's pictured
Speaker 3: crying statues of the Virgin Mary weeps tears of blood
Speaker 3: for the thirty eighth time in Argentina. So they're showing
Speaker 3: this one on the left, and that was in twenty eighteen,
Speaker 3: while another Madonna is said to have done the same
Speaker 3: in Italy in recent years. And this one's on the right. Interesting,
Speaker 3: And now they're showing another photo here, Okay, Saint Peter's Square,
Speaker 3: All right, moving on this is many of these are
Speaker 3: local and restricted in scope. Not all of them receive
Speaker 3: attention from the media in the general public scene. Sometimes
Speaker 3: people just you know, they don't put it out there
Speaker 3: for reasons I understand. And the new Observatory Committee, which
Speaker 3: will begin its first session on Saturday, had been keeping
Speaker 3: its eye on a curious case involving a weeping Mary
Speaker 3: statue in Treviano Trevinano, near Rome. Okay, it involved an
Speaker 3: Italian woman facing an investigation for fraud after claiming her
Speaker 3: virgin Mary statue could cry tears of blood and multiplying
Speaker 3: Nachi and Pizza really really flocked to see Gizella's cardidias
Speaker 3: cardias predictions. I'm terrible with names, sorry, predictions. After her
Speaker 3: statue of our Lady Treviano Romano began weeping blood, followers
Speaker 3: believe she brought messages from Mary, and some said she'd
Speaker 3: even predicted the COVID pandemic. However, church investigators recently discovered
Speaker 3: the blood which her statue wept was not holy and
Speaker 3: actually came from a pig, according to local media. Okay,
Speaker 3: hold on, you know, Okay, this is the Daily Mail
Speaker 3: I'm reading from, all right, So of course I got
Speaker 3: to show the skeptical element and side to this per us. Right.
Speaker 3: It's like even when it comes to like the UFO
Speaker 3: phenomena or Bigfoot phenomena or anything, it's kind of mysterious.
Speaker 3: Oh well, here's the perspective of somebody who doesn't believe
Speaker 3: in anything. Let's put that question in your mind before
Speaker 3: we'll think miracle, right, I mean, that's just it's common practice.
Speaker 3: But also considering the source, this is the story that
Speaker 3: they throw up first, versus one that might actually prove
Speaker 3: something that's in the positive. You know, I don't, I
Speaker 3: don't know. I don't. I don't understand the tactic. I
Speaker 3: personally would like to hear, Oh a miracle happened here first, like, oh,
Speaker 3: this is really intriguing instead of skeptical, I'm gonna put
Speaker 3: my frown face on and stop my feet out of
Speaker 3: the room. Uh, you know, I don't get that. I
Speaker 3: don't get that. But this is this is a shame.
Speaker 3: So we're talking about miracles and we got somebody that
Speaker 3: defrauded the topic. But you're like, well why and how
Speaker 3: how does that benefit them? Let's continue to read. You know,
Speaker 3: it's always going to be something right, all right? Oh
Speaker 3: this is so wrong. This is so wrong. Officials believe
Speaker 3: the woman Gazella Cardias, has now fled after fleecing her
Speaker 3: followers with tens of thousands of euros and donations. Oh man,
Speaker 3: this is not the first time that church officials have
Speaker 3: decided to probe weeping Virgin Mary statues. Now, I know
Speaker 3: that this topic has been investigated by the church and
Speaker 3: by others for some time. Oh man. So here they're
Speaker 3: showing the lady. There's a picture of her with a
Speaker 3: giant statue of Mary. It's the size of a grown
Speaker 3: woman in a glass case with flowers.
Speaker 1: All around it.
Speaker 3: So it says she has been exposed as a fraud
Speaker 3: after church investigators discovered the blood was weeping pig blood.
Speaker 3: That's terrible. Wow, let's say about that. That's that's that's
Speaker 3: really a shame. So but anyways, we got more here
Speaker 3: to read on this story, and it's it's fascinating, it real,
Speaker 3: it really is, because it's like I'm curious to hear
Speaker 3: more and how the church is tackling these topics. All right,
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Speaker 3: Welcome back. You are listening to Dark Becomes Light with
Speaker 3: me Idy Hollis Honey iHeartRadio at Coast to Coast AM
Speaker 3: Paranormal Podcast Network. Just before the break, I was just
Speaker 3: diving into this lovely article regarding the mysteries and the
Speaker 3: mystical that are being tackled by the Vatican with a
Speaker 3: new an academic approach, you could call it. And I
Speaker 3: was just diving into this little part right here, right
Speaker 3: underneath this photo of this woman they just found defrauded
Speaker 3: a lot of people regarding donations that were made to
Speaker 3: her statue that was weeping and making predictions about a
Speaker 3: lot of things, and you know, people like to believe
Speaker 3: in the mysteries, right, especially when it comes to something
Speaker 3: that might be holy. So it's like, do you knock
Speaker 3: the people for having the belief that they did to
Speaker 3: come and check it out, because miracles like this haven't
Speaker 3: been known to happen. Like I said the show that
Speaker 3: I'd watched signs from God and how science is testing
Speaker 3: faith and it was proven to be unexplainable. So hey,
Speaker 3: I get it all right. So continuing this article, back
Speaker 3: in twenty eighteen, a New Mexico church found a madonna
Speaker 3: which was leaking olive oil, sparking excitement that there was
Speaker 3: a supernatural force behind it. Now, Bishop Oscar Kantu of
Speaker 3: Our Lady of Guadalupe Catholic Church in Hobbes, US so
Speaker 3: the church would determine whether or not the sign was
Speaker 3: a good one or an evil one. Oh that's interesting. Hmm.
Speaker 3: So that's interesting. I'm just thinking about if you saw
Speaker 3: a statue weeping oil, it could be a bad sign
Speaker 3: as well. I have never heard that to be an
Speaker 3: evil sign. Huh, all right. Continuing later that year, another
Speaker 3: Virgin Mary, this time in Argentina, was seen weeping tears
Speaker 3: of blood for what was reputed to be the thirteenth time.
Speaker 3: And let me tell you, this looks like coagulated blood
Speaker 3: and stuff. It's kind of ooh, it's hard. It's hard
Speaker 3: to see. But they're doing this like close up, like
Speaker 3: this active video is underneath what I'm reading. Just to
Speaker 3: tell you this an active video that's moving and zooming
Speaker 3: into coagulated blood just pouring out of the eyes of
Speaker 3: this statue. And I mean it's really thick. Uh So,
Speaker 3: all right, continuing, The statue of the Virgin of the
Speaker 3: Mystic Rose has been linked to several quote miracles, such
Speaker 3: as a woman who had a three inch tumor which
Speaker 3: reportedly disappeared after she visited it. Now, one thing I
Speaker 3: got to tell you when it comes to reported miracles
Speaker 3: like that, I don't think anybody's more tough than the
Speaker 3: Vatican and investigating such things. So if they're on the case,
Speaker 3: it's going to be really clarified to prove that miracle
Speaker 3: that was claimed, all right, because they do that for
Speaker 3: people like this is so I feel it's this is
Speaker 3: so weird for me. Okay, I'm just like stuttering over
Speaker 3: this because I didn't understand the topic of quote saints. Okay,
Speaker 3: I wasn't raised Catholic, and I'm like, well, what do
Speaker 3: you mean? What is this whole saint process? And so
Speaker 3: I looked into it and it's like, Oh, they really
Speaker 3: dig in, They really dig in to make sure that
Speaker 3: somebody is doing something that is said. And I just
Speaker 3: very very deep investigational stuff because the scholar that I
Speaker 3: once knew said this is done that way, and I'm like, what,
Speaker 3: That's a whole other world I never knew existed, all right.
Speaker 3: Continuing a year prior, Catholic miracle investigators studied a Virgin
Speaker 3: Mary and Poco in southwestern Mexico and which began to
Speaker 3: shed tears in front of its owners. The saint was
Speaker 3: a Mexican version of the Virgin Mary, nicknamed La marient
Speaker 3: Maurita Morinita, or the Brunettes. That's what it means. Followers
Speaker 3: were astonished when images and videos surfaced of tears seemingly
Speaker 3: streaming down its cheeks and other incidents deemed to be supernatural,
Speaker 3: and Archdiocese in Connecticut, US, United States, stunned followers last month.
Speaker 3: Oh this is recent, just last month, when he claimed
Speaker 3: a parishioner witnessed the number of wafers he was handing
Speaker 3: out for communion. Multiply watch them multiply eucharistic miracles. That's
Speaker 3: what I've learned is the name of such things. Apparently
Speaker 3: that is a really big deal too, because I mean,
Speaker 3: what did Jesus do with the bread and the fish
Speaker 3: when they had so many people to feed and he
Speaker 3: made those multiply. So there's a lot of people that
Speaker 3: claim these things as well. So interesting, They're going to
Speaker 3: look into this. So Pammy Pami's new Observatory is also
Speaker 3: set to introduce local scientific committees in order to create
Speaker 3: a larger network for more probes. Think about that. So
Speaker 3: it's not going to just be based in the Vatican,
Speaker 3: like that'll be the headquarters, but they're going to have
Speaker 3: these committees going around looking for people and items and claims.
Speaker 3: I'm curious about the ghost element, aren't you? Oh? Look
Speaker 3: at this They're they're showing this statue. It almost looks
Speaker 3: like a bronze statue of Mary with tears coming down.
Speaker 6: HM.
Speaker 3: Back in twenty eighteen, it says underneath it new Mexico.
Speaker 3: This is the New Mexico. One church found a madonna
Speaker 3: which was leaking olive oil. This is the olive oil
Speaker 3: one oh wow, huh. All right, and then they have
Speaker 3: the other one that's showing tears. This one looks more
Speaker 3: like a ceramic surface. Mary. Okay, interesting, But think about this, guys.
Speaker 3: This is a committee. I mean, these are committees that
Speaker 3: are going to be established all over so they'll be
Speaker 3: under the Vatican's orders. Hey, go take a look over there.
Speaker 3: But they said ghosts as well ghosts. So there's a
Speaker 3: lot of ghosts out there. So are we gonna have
Speaker 3: Vatican ghost hunters? Well, that'd be interesting. They want to
Speaker 3: look at the miracle of that.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 3: Okay, when I think ghosts, I think disgruntled spirits. Okay,
Speaker 3: spirits are different though. That's somebody coming to visit you,
Speaker 3: to say, hey, it's your uncle, I'm doing good, how
Speaker 3: are you that type of thing. And they might not
Speaker 3: just linger around and rattle things. Ghosts I find to
Speaker 3: be of no relation. They happen to be there. They
Speaker 3: might give you a shove, they might mess up things.
Speaker 3: They're not your friends. So this topic that they're talking
Speaker 3: about here is weeping statues, right of Mary, And you know,
Speaker 3: I didn't see them mention Jesus' statues, But I don't
Speaker 3: know if that's as much of a phenomenon or not.
Speaker 3: That's not interesting, it's usually mary huh hmm. I'm not sure.
Speaker 3: I'm not an expert. I've just been looking into this
Speaker 3: stuff because it's like it's like a whole other paranormal mystery.
Speaker 3: For me, I'm like, what what you guys have names
Speaker 3: for this? This is? This is wild? And you've had
Speaker 3: this for how long you've known about these things? Like
Speaker 3: it's it's amazing to me. I feel like a kid
Speaker 3: in a candy shop learning some of this stuff. Not kidding,
Speaker 3: not kidding, it really is Uh, it's just kind of wow.
Speaker 3: But think about this, the ghost element, how does that
Speaker 3: relate to Vatican and religious thought? Yeah? Yeah, I know,
Speaker 3: you know the Disciples of Jesus saw him walking on
Speaker 3: the water and they thought it was a ghost. And
Speaker 3: that's the only place they mentioned a ghost. Maybe not,
Speaker 3: but what ghosts? So there's gonna be committees to go
Speaker 3: out and observe and see if there really are ghosts. Huh.
Speaker 3: Now that is interesting. I mean who will they be
Speaker 3: pulling together for that. Your local professor or your local
Speaker 3: ghost hunter. Are they gonna come with equipment to say
Speaker 3: there's something here? Or does the Vatican group. Do they
Speaker 3: have something that we don't know? Now? I don't know.
Speaker 3: I think I've mentioned here on this program that there
Speaker 3: are really super high tech EVP machines out there, Okay,
Speaker 3: more than what you think ordained, created, constructed by various governments.
Speaker 3: If your local ghost hunter has an EVP ability just
Speaker 3: putting your recorder out to the world me some people
Speaker 3: at were a lot stronger around by the way, So
Speaker 3: that's why I say ability. But it's like, and they're
Speaker 3: able to actually pull voices from the air. Our government
Speaker 3: has a machine that does that really well. So you
Speaker 3: see them walking around with a microphone with a headset
Speaker 3: on like they do in the movies. Yeah, they're listening.
Speaker 3: They're listening. They realize that there's energy in the air
Speaker 3: that can respond in this little bit of different dimension
Speaker 3: that must be lingering above ours. You know, it's like,
Speaker 3: where is that coming from? Where is that disembodied voice
Speaker 3: coming from? Disembodied nobody voice? Where's it coming from? So
Speaker 3: are they gonna enlist really cool technology? I really want
Speaker 3: to know. I would love to be part of a
Speaker 3: committee or actually be considered somebody local to resort to,
Speaker 3: Like Heidi, do you have any interesting cases. Yes, I do, Yes,
Speaker 3: I do. Would you like to use my resources? Because
Speaker 3: I would? Look, can I go with you to check
Speaker 3: it out as well? I mean I think it'd be
Speaker 3: fast set to nating, fascinating. Yeah, and this is gonna
Speaker 3: go on Saturday for their first meeting. I have a
Speaker 3: feeling I know some of these people are going to
Speaker 3: be on those discussions. Oh yeah, Oh yeah, I think so.
Speaker 3: I think so. I think we'll all be surprised. Stay here,
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Speaker 3: Welcome back. You are listening to Dark Becomes Like with me,
Speaker 3: Randy Hollis on the iHeartRadio and Coast to COASTDA Paranormal
Speaker 3: Podcast Network. Oh, this is such an interesting conversation that
Speaker 3: we're having here today. I am talking to myself, but
Speaker 3: I'm really talking to you right because I'm sure everybody's
Speaker 3: got their eyebrows raids going woww we're going there. I
Speaker 3: wish that they would also open us up to UFO
Speaker 3: pen on that and what it is that people are
Speaker 3: reporting with some of these beings in being positive speaking
Speaker 3: of God or Jesus and some of them just being
Speaker 3: outright evil and demonic, okay, and connecting those dots. Why
Speaker 3: close limit it? Right, I'm just I'm gonna dream big lockness.
Speaker 3: I don't think that would fit in there. But from
Speaker 3: what I was told, what NeSSI is? Maybe? All right? Oh,
Speaker 3: I should say from my book The Secret War, I
Speaker 3: was told that perhaps those creatures are actually the beast
Speaker 3: written of in the Bible that will rise from the sea.
Speaker 3: But there's more than one, all right. There's a lot
Speaker 3: of lakes and bodies of water around the world that
Speaker 3: claims lake monsters and they just can't seem to find them.
Speaker 3: Does that happen? Perhaps because they are mystical, not just
Speaker 3: mythical creatures, and they're fluctuating in and out, and they'll
Speaker 3: come to stand fully above the water when things change here.
Speaker 3: But who knows? All right? So continuing this article, it
Speaker 3: says a Father Stefano Teach, part of the committee, explained
Speaker 3: the purpose of the Observatory is to activate national and
Speaker 3: international commissions to evaluate and study apparitions and mystical phenomena
Speaker 3: reported in various areas of the world. So right there, Well, okay,
Speaker 3: they are kind of narrowing it down apparitions. I'm thinking, Marion,
Speaker 3: mystical phenomena. I'm finding that that word. I didn't know,
Speaker 3: but it's kind of attributed closely to Catholicism and some
Speaker 3: of the belief system mystical, supernatural, that word too, That
Speaker 3: word also gets used a lot. I swear to you,
Speaker 3: I feel like I've been snoozing. I'm like, I just
Speaker 3: did not know that there was this whole understanding out there,
Speaker 3: and not surely within the church. I mean, you know,
Speaker 3: I swear if I think a lot of Protestants out
Speaker 3: there can agree that, you know, we're just kind of
Speaker 3: more casual, more laid back, and just like, oh, here
Speaker 3: we go, or talking about God Jesus, here's the Bible.
Speaker 3: Oh and here's some lessons for you. And it's not like,
Speaker 3: by the way, do you know what the Catholics believe. No,
Speaker 3: we didn't know. I just thought, oh, they're Christian too,
Speaker 3: they're all into the same things we are, and they are,
Speaker 3: but they have these older understandings that have tradition and
Speaker 3: things that we're just that familiar with. So and I
Speaker 3: surely didn't. I mean, I had so much else going
Speaker 3: on in my life. I just didn't stop to go
Speaker 3: go read about them again. I thought they're pretty much
Speaker 3: like us, you know, similar, but different with the beliefs
Speaker 3: and these additions with saints and miracle huntings and relics,
Speaker 3: and boy, the relic thing, that's really different. I did
Speaker 3: not know till I went to the Vatican. I did
Speaker 3: not know why there were people in glass cases. I
Speaker 3: had no idea. What's that? Oh gosh, what is that called? People?
Speaker 3: Their bodies who are thought to not deteriorate, incorruptibles, that's
Speaker 3: what they call them. So and I mean like people
Speaker 3: that get buried, and they check them every so often, like, Wow,
Speaker 3: they're not decomposing. Something miraculous is going on here, which
Speaker 3: is I mean, what how are they not decomposing?
Speaker 5: Sure?
Speaker 3: Some have And the glass cases that I saw, some
Speaker 3: of them didn't look so great. I'll just be honest.
Speaker 3: Some of them didn't look so great. Others did. And
Speaker 3: it is puzzling if truly these things have been tested
Speaker 3: and proven to be one percent those are people. That's
Speaker 3: that is wild? How's that happen? So I get it
Speaker 3: having a look at these things. There's a lot of
Speaker 3: things I don't understand. I'll be honest, I don't understand
Speaker 3: it all, you know, But I do my best not
Speaker 3: to judge people for what they believe to be true
Speaker 3: for themselves. Who am I to go around and say
Speaker 3: bad you? You know, we're all here on this planet
Speaker 3: looking for some answers and learning as we go along. Right, Okay,
Speaker 3: so I want to continue this story, uh, he added.
Speaker 3: It will promote updating and training activities on this type
Speaker 3: of events, and they're multiple spiritual and cultural meanings. Promote
Speaker 3: high dissemination and consultancy activities, especially at the service of
Speaker 3: local churches and bishops, but also transdisciplinary research activities in
Speaker 3: concert with academic institutions both lay and ecclesiastical, and the
Speaker 3: publication of the results of the researches carried out. Did
Speaker 3: you get all of that? They want to open it up, guys.
Speaker 3: They want to say, hey, what is the meaning here
Speaker 3: and doesn't have something to do with the area in
Speaker 3: particular culturally meaning and actually report on it and say, hey,
Speaker 3: there's a miracle over here. Now in looking at the church,
Speaker 3: the Catholic Church, and how they do create a stir
Speaker 3: when they say, hey, this is real and people come
Speaker 3: to see and it builds up the faith of people,
Speaker 3: does it not? I mean, if you're looking at a
Speaker 3: miracle that was absolutely studied by especially your local academics
Speaker 3: and say, look, I have no answers. That's a big
Speaker 3: whooptie do. That's a huge whoopedie doo. I like that word.
Speaker 3: That is right, And I'm all about building up faith,
Speaker 3: all right. I'm because I think it's absolutely necessary, especially
Speaker 3: working around the demonic things I've named shadow people and
Speaker 3: the hat Man phenomenon. So faith is good. I mean,
Speaker 3: these dark things are placing their bets on us not
Speaker 3: to figure them out or have that I don't know
Speaker 3: Jesus to call on. All right, So continuing on here,
Speaker 3: all right? Where was I? Oh? No? Okay? Fellow committee
Speaker 3: member Father Raggio Rosio has previously spoken on topic of
Speaker 3: mystical phenomena, notably in twenty twenty one when he revealed
Speaker 3: that demand for exorcisms boomed during the pandemic. It sure did,
Speaker 3: the Catholic priest told the Telegraph at the time, we
Speaker 3: have seen an increase in the request for exorcisms because
Speaker 3: the pandemic has made people more vulnerable to the idea
Speaker 3: that Satan or some evil entity has taken over their lives. Hmm,
Speaker 3: hat man, you guys not kidding. Hat Man stories went
Speaker 3: through the roof, absolutely through the roof. Oh guess what, guys,
Speaker 3: this is fascinating. You wouldn't believe what just happened out
Speaker 3: of nowhere. I'm sitting here reading this article to you,
Speaker 3: and it absolutely disappeared and said, oop, this this article
Speaker 3: is no longer available. I had to click reload. That
Speaker 3: was really weird. I've never kind of made me kind
Speaker 3: of jump, and I don't jump very often from things.
Speaker 3: Things don't scare me. That's just like woo, where to go?
Speaker 4: Wow?
Speaker 3: That was bizarre. All right. Yeah, so hat Man, I
Speaker 3: said hat Man on that disappeared. He was a big
Speaker 3: problem shadow people. I mean, people were in a funk.
Speaker 3: They were sick, They're losing their jobs, they were losing
Speaker 3: their livelihoods. Yeah, it attracted a lot of darkness and yeah,
Speaker 3: it was real. It was horrible, absolutely horrible. So yeah,
Speaker 3: it reared its ugly head and just crazy. All right.
Speaker 3: To continue and to conclude this story, people have fallen
Speaker 3: into poverty. They found themselves suffering from anxiety and depression.
Speaker 3: They feel that their lives are no longer in their
Speaker 3: own hands, but in the hands of a malign force.
Speaker 3: It's a big crisis. He was speaking at a six
Speaker 3: day international conference where more than one hundred priests and
Speaker 3: bishops from around the world gather in Rome to attend
Speaker 3: the world's only recognized course in exorcism. Amazing, amazing. So
Speaker 3: the mystical events are all going to go underneath this
Speaker 3: new observatory of sorts. How does that make you feel
Speaker 3: out there? I really want to know. I'm excited because
Speaker 3: they're saying they're going to open up the whole conversation
Speaker 3: to us. This is going to be available for all
Speaker 3: of us to take a look at. I'm curious if
Speaker 3: they're going to involve those who are not Catholic or
Speaker 3: is this only fall under those who are involved in
Speaker 3: those churches? Cause again, I like to look at what
Speaker 3: we have more in common than our differences. You're Christian,
Speaker 3: me too? All right, cool, let's all be in the
Speaker 3: same party and let's have a conversation. Like if I
Speaker 3: see something, can I just report it to them? I
Speaker 3: definitely see the hand being played here to involve people
Speaker 3: to see the miracles of God, because I think definitely
Speaker 3: our eyeballs get limited or we don't see and a
Speaker 3: lot of people don't talk about what is they've experienced
Speaker 3: in Yeah, faith, Wayne's the miracles that wakes people up.
Speaker 3: All right, you guys, I hope you enjoyed today's show
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