WEBVTT - Five Things About the 2023 Open Championship with Kyle Porter 0:00:00.080 --> 0:00:02.800 I miss a green, for example, I'm already upset. When 0:00:02.840 --> 0:00:04.920 I find my ball in the bunker, I'm really upset. 0:00:05.040 --> 0:00:07.720 And when I find my ball in a egg Frida Egg, 0:00:07.840 --> 0:00:11.920 the d Frida Egg, Frida Egg, Egg Bride Egg Lie, 0:00:11.960 --> 0:00:14.120 I'm about ready to run off the golf. 0:00:34.720 --> 0:00:38.480 Welcome back to another edition of the Frida Egg Podcast. 0:00:39.120 --> 0:00:43.240 We are here final major, final men's major of the year. 0:00:43.560 --> 0:00:46.519 I think this is a uh, it's crazy, it's a 0:00:46.800 --> 0:00:49.360 I think the new schedule. This is what happens is 0:00:49.360 --> 0:00:52.360 we kind of just all of a sudden poof major 0:00:52.440 --> 0:00:55.600 season for the men is over. Obviously, we have the 0:00:56.040 --> 0:00:58.760 Women's Open coming up at Walton Heath, which will be 0:00:58.840 --> 0:01:02.480 really fun to watch. Also, so but we're here at 0:01:02.520 --> 0:01:07.040 the Open Championship, so I'm not there, but it is 0:01:07.959 --> 0:01:12.800 says a golf world are there. So we are doing 0:01:13.000 --> 0:01:16.080 a lot of stuff on the Frida Egg this week. Obviously, 0:01:16.120 --> 0:01:20.240 we have the daily newsletters. Feel free to go subscribe 0:01:20.360 --> 0:01:23.360 on the website the Frida Egg dot Com to those 0:01:23.440 --> 0:01:27.480 and you'll be getting daily newsletters this week. And today's 0:01:27.520 --> 0:01:32.039 guest is Kyle Porter. Kyle writes for CBS. He also 0:01:32.080 --> 0:01:35.000 has a book every year that comes out normal Sport. 0:01:35.360 --> 0:01:38.520 I think it's coming out again this year. But he's 0:01:38.560 --> 0:01:43.680 obviously a formative mind in the golf space, a wonderful 0:01:43.720 --> 0:01:47.919 golf writer at CBS, and was really fun to chat 0:01:47.960 --> 0:01:51.480 with him about this Open, about a myriad of topics, 0:01:51.680 --> 0:01:55.720 some of the big names, whether the course, different things. 0:01:56.120 --> 0:01:59.920 So without further ado, here is Kyle Porter with our 0:02:00.160 --> 0:02:04.160 five things about the Open Championship. Thanks, and here. 0:02:03.960 --> 0:02:04.360 We got. 0:02:09.120 --> 0:02:13.080 All right, Kyle, I I understand you're going through the 0:02:13.120 --> 0:02:15.800 fomo that I'm going through of not being in Scotland. 0:02:16.320 --> 0:02:20.920 I am. I'm wearing my Crail England, England or Scotland. 0:02:20.919 --> 0:02:24.520 I'm wearing my my Crail hat right now. Last year 0:02:24.639 --> 0:02:28.120 was you know some of the photos that that that 0:02:28.200 --> 0:02:31.480 you and I were in or part of, or you 0:02:31.520 --> 0:02:32.960 know some some of the some of the rounds that 0:02:32.960 --> 0:02:35.519 we played. They've been popping up, you know, people were 0:02:36.160 --> 0:02:40.880 reposting them and you know, texting them and sharing them 0:02:41.400 --> 0:02:45.760 and it reminded me of just what a that was. 0:02:45.800 --> 0:02:47.720 My first time to Scotland was last year for the 0:02:47.840 --> 0:02:50.959 for the Open, and it was just it blew away 0:02:51.160 --> 0:02:55.799 whatever my expectations were. And yeah, I'm just I'm bombed 0:02:55.840 --> 0:02:58.040 to not get to go back over. And it's such 0:02:58.080 --> 0:02:59.760 a it's such a I think I heard you guys 0:02:59.760 --> 0:03:01.520 talking about this the other day. It's such a magical 0:03:01.560 --> 0:03:05.640 time of year with Wimbledon going on and the Open 0:03:05.800 --> 0:03:10.000 and everything else. And it's fun to experience from afar, 0:03:10.040 --> 0:03:12.799 but it's better to experience from up close. Yeah. 0:03:12.960 --> 0:03:17.000 Absolutely, how long the days are? I think that round 0:03:17.000 --> 0:03:19.600 we played together at Ealy. We were playing till about 0:03:19.639 --> 0:03:23.080 ten thirty at night. It was so dark when we 0:03:23.080 --> 0:03:25.560 were finishing. And then we had that cab ride home. 0:03:25.600 --> 0:03:29.760 But and it was the cab ride. There was even 0:03:29.800 --> 0:03:31.800 But were you in the cab that that I was 0:03:31.800 --> 0:03:34.960 in that was getting tasked down that country road? Was 0:03:35.080 --> 0:03:36.280 the cab and other cab? 0:03:36.800 --> 0:03:38.760 It was the cab. Whatever cab I was in, was 0:03:38.800 --> 0:03:40.320 the one that Bacon was up front? 0:03:40.920 --> 0:03:41.520 Yes, and. 0:03:43.320 --> 0:03:46.640 He couldn't. The guy was speaking English, but he was 0:03:46.680 --> 0:03:48.640 like Bacon. 0:03:49.400 --> 0:03:51.640 A thick a very thick accent. 0:03:51.920 --> 0:03:54.760 It was. It was incredible and Bacon at one point 0:03:54.840 --> 0:03:57.440 you could you could see it shift where he was 0:03:57.480 --> 0:04:00.360 like trying try and trying to understand, and then you 0:04:00.360 --> 0:04:02.600 saw him shift to like I give up, I'm out, 0:04:02.800 --> 0:04:06.240 Like I'm just gonna nod and pretend like I'm I'm 0:04:06.520 --> 0:04:09.760 I'm understanding what this guy's saying. It was. 0:04:09.920 --> 0:04:12.840 God, that was great. Great last year's opin, I mean, 0:04:13.520 --> 0:04:17.359 all time tournament, all time trip that Saturday night out 0:04:17.480 --> 0:04:22.440 before everybody was Rory's gonna get it done. Then then 0:04:22.760 --> 0:04:27.560 the vandal Cam Smith just just stole stole the tournament, 0:04:27.680 --> 0:04:31.760 broke his heart, broke broke all the media's heart. 0:04:32.520 --> 0:04:37.160 I'm a contrarian, and I don't know if I want 0:04:37.240 --> 0:04:40.000 to really like freely admit this, but like coming down 0:04:40.040 --> 0:04:42.160 the background, I kind of was rooted for Cam just 0:04:42.160 --> 0:04:42.800 for the h. 0:04:44.760 --> 0:04:45.760 I felt it coming. 0:04:46.480 --> 0:04:47.000 Yeah. 0:04:47.080 --> 0:04:49.599 I just as soon as he made the birdie on 0:04:49.680 --> 0:04:52.880 eleven last year, I just you just were like, oh boy, 0:04:53.160 --> 0:04:59.080 this guy is I mean, I still that those shots 0:04:59.080 --> 0:05:01.560 he hit coming down on the stretch. I haven't rewatched it, 0:05:01.640 --> 0:05:05.920 but they're about as vivid of shots in my in 0:05:05.960 --> 0:05:08.400 my mind like that, you know, you have, like those 0:05:08.440 --> 0:05:12.640 pictures that you remember and the camp Smith on the 0:05:12.640 --> 0:05:17.320 back line of Saint Andrews that that that day are 0:05:17.839 --> 0:05:22.400 about the most vivid golf tournament memories. I don't think 0:05:22.440 --> 0:05:24.080 they're going away anytime soon. 0:05:24.320 --> 0:05:27.039 Well, I think you know, it's interesting because when, as 0:05:27.080 --> 0:05:32.400 people know, when you're out there, it's hard to see 0:05:32.640 --> 0:05:35.080 multiple players if they're not in the same pairing, and 0:05:35.120 --> 0:05:37.880 so we inevitably this happened in La We were watching 0:05:38.279 --> 0:05:41.080 we were watching Wendham Clark on your phone, like literally 0:05:41.120 --> 0:05:44.320 your phone was you were holding it out and people 0:05:44.360 --> 0:05:46.640 were watching what Wyndham was doing two holes behind or 0:05:46.640 --> 0:05:49.320 a hole behind from where we were. And I remember 0:05:49.360 --> 0:05:52.240 that happening at the Open last year when Cam was 0:05:52.279 --> 0:05:56.320 on seventeen because we were with Rory and Hobland or 0:05:56.360 --> 0:05:58.719 I was. I don't remember where everybody else was, but 0:05:58.760 --> 0:06:02.200 I remember seeing somebody's the video on somebody's phone because 0:06:02.200 --> 0:06:04.839 you don't know what else is going on, and you 0:06:04.880 --> 0:06:08.520 saw where Cam's ball was on seventeen after his second shot, 0:06:08.960 --> 0:06:10.960 and in your head you're like, okay, that's a five, 0:06:11.720 --> 0:06:15.080 so what like, how is this going to affect everybody else? 0:06:15.080 --> 0:06:17.520 How's this going to play out? And then when he 0:06:17.560 --> 0:06:21.240 makes four there, you're like, okay, well that's that's it, 0:06:21.360 --> 0:06:24.120 like that's the tournament. And that was that was the 0:06:24.200 --> 0:06:28.719 moment for me that he was like, oh this just 0:06:28.800 --> 0:06:31.479 this happened, like this it's not going to happen. It 0:06:31.600 --> 0:06:35.039 just did happen, and there's really no turning back, and 0:06:35.080 --> 0:06:38.320 you have to you have to consider like how crushing 0:06:38.400 --> 0:06:42.400 that is for everybody else involved, specifically Rory because he 0:06:42.440 --> 0:06:43.919 was the one that was out in front, but also 0:06:43.960 --> 0:06:49.120 for Hoveland. And it was a opens at Saint Andrew's 0:06:49.200 --> 0:06:54.040 are you know, magnificent. But they're also weighty because they 0:06:54.080 --> 0:06:56.640 only happen once every you know, five or six years, 0:06:56.640 --> 0:06:58.880 and that that's a that's a pretty crushing thing to 0:06:58.880 --> 0:07:00.119 have happened to you at the end. 0:07:00.839 --> 0:07:04.280 Yeah, I mean that's the fascinating thing about the open 0:07:04.400 --> 0:07:06.520 at Saint Andrews, right, It is like it has this 0:07:07.240 --> 0:07:09.560 it's kind of got the weight of a master's yep, 0:07:09.560 --> 0:07:13.000 but without the annual aspect of it. I mean Cam 0:07:13.080 --> 0:07:17.480 Young eagled eighteen. I mean I think that's the thing 0:07:17.520 --> 0:07:21.200 that gets lost, and I mean he made the putt 0:07:21.360 --> 0:07:24.440 after it was a foregone conclusion that Smith was making 0:07:24.640 --> 0:07:28.560 Birdie on eighteen. But I have to say, like of all, 0:07:28.720 --> 0:07:32.080 you know, all the shots like that Cam hit to win, 0:07:33.600 --> 0:07:36.840 the routineness of the up and down for Bertie on 0:07:36.920 --> 0:07:40.840 eighteen kind of gets glossed over. How the guy just 0:07:41.040 --> 0:07:44.760 like literally just that was about a stone cold as 0:07:44.760 --> 0:07:46.960 it gets right. It's not an easy up and down 0:07:47.000 --> 0:07:49.680 by any means, but to hit it to like, hit 0:07:49.760 --> 0:07:51.920 it to nothing where there's not even a shred of 0:07:51.960 --> 0:07:57.440 doubt that he's making Birdie was just serial killer stuff. 0:07:57.680 --> 0:08:01.800 So let's get in. Let's get into our typical exercise. 0:08:01.880 --> 0:08:04.880 Five things about the Open This year will be at 0:08:04.960 --> 0:08:09.920 Royal Liverpool Hoylake as a lot of people will call 0:08:09.960 --> 0:08:15.000 it for short, what is your first thing or a 0:08:15.240 --> 0:08:16.280 thing that you're looking for? 0:08:16.360 --> 0:08:18.640 Yeah, let's let's keep it going with Cam actually because 0:08:18.640 --> 0:08:22.400 he's on my list and it's it's partly because I 0:08:22.480 --> 0:08:25.160 left him. Yeah, there you go. It's probably because of 0:08:25.240 --> 0:08:28.760 last year obviously, because he won and nobody's repeated since 0:08:30.320 --> 0:08:33.640 since twenty twenty three. Writer cup Padrick Harrington did back 0:08:33.679 --> 0:08:36.120 in two thousand and seven, two thousand and eight, did 0:08:36.120 --> 0:08:38.079 you see him at the We're taping this on Friday, 0:08:38.080 --> 0:08:40.280 but did you see he's in like sixth place at 0:08:40.280 --> 0:08:43.079 the Scottish Open's what's going on? 0:08:43.320 --> 0:08:45.600 Is he gonna be on the writer come team bombing 0:08:45.640 --> 0:08:46.000 the ball? 0:08:48.559 --> 0:08:55.160 It's unbelievable, Uh, Cam Smith repeat, listen like it's it's 0:08:55.200 --> 0:08:59.720 been quiet because people don't watch live, and he's not. 0:09:00.280 --> 0:09:02.640 He kind of only pops up at the majors and whatever. 0:09:02.679 --> 0:09:05.800 But he's got I believe it's twelve straight excuse me, 0:09:05.840 --> 0:09:09.560 eight straight top twelves worldwide, including live, but also including 0:09:10.360 --> 0:09:13.040 a top ten at the PGA, a fourth place finish 0:09:13.080 --> 0:09:16.920 at the US Open. His strokes game numbers, which include 0:09:16.960 --> 0:09:21.720 live on data golf, are very good, like better than 0:09:21.760 --> 0:09:25.320 brooks Kopka, better than kind of right there with Rory 0:09:25.400 --> 0:09:30.000 and Victor Hovelin. And you know, the Open is the 0:09:30.080 --> 0:09:34.600 kind of place where he doesn't he's he's a crooked driver, 0:09:34.800 --> 0:09:38.440 right like he can get very I still remember that 0:09:38.559 --> 0:09:42.160 drive he hit on sixteen at TPC Sawgrass when he 0:09:42.240 --> 0:09:44.719 won a couple of years ago, and it was like, 0:09:45.080 --> 0:09:48.160 that's not a drive that I've seen a major champion 0:09:48.280 --> 0:09:51.120 hit very often when he looked it into the woods. 0:09:51.440 --> 0:09:55.839 But you can create, I mean, you can creatively get 0:09:55.880 --> 0:09:57.720 your way out out of stuff like that at the 0:09:57.720 --> 0:10:01.679 Open Championship. So cam Smith me is a massive storyline 0:10:01.720 --> 0:10:03.840 going in, not just because he's a defending champion, but 0:10:03.880 --> 0:10:06.120 also because he's been playing kind of quietly some very 0:10:06.160 --> 0:10:07.080 good golf recently. 0:10:07.760 --> 0:10:10.480 Yeah, I mean you're talking about a handful of the 0:10:10.520 --> 0:10:12.720 best players in the world, right, And I think that 0:10:12.760 --> 0:10:16.240 gets obscured a little bit for two reasons. One, as 0:10:16.280 --> 0:10:18.840 he's self admitted, he kind of kind of took it 0:10:18.880 --> 0:10:22.480 easy this winter partied and wasn't like guns of blazon 0:10:24.640 --> 0:10:27.360 on the outset of the of the year. But also 0:10:27.559 --> 0:10:31.199 because as you mentioned, he's kind of been wandering about 0:10:31.240 --> 0:10:34.440 in obscurity on this on the Lift Tour, which you know, 0:10:35.160 --> 0:10:38.240 it's it's the players have performed well. He's one of 0:10:38.280 --> 0:10:42.000 them who's performed well in major championships, but it does 0:10:42.040 --> 0:10:45.600 not you know, the the tour is still very obscure 0:10:45.720 --> 0:10:49.480 in the sense of nobody really follows it. Yeah, uh 0:10:49.800 --> 0:10:55.400 so yeah, I think cam uh this golf course. One 0:10:55.400 --> 0:10:58.400 of my things that this ties into that I am 0:10:58.600 --> 0:11:02.400 curious about is the golf course and how it holds 0:11:02.480 --> 0:11:07.240 up with with driving, you know, like it's a golf 0:11:07.320 --> 0:11:10.120 course that's known for like you really got to control 0:11:10.160 --> 0:11:13.400 your ball out there. And I think it's it's fairly narrow. 0:11:13.480 --> 0:11:15.440 It's a little bit more narrow than the old course. 0:11:16.800 --> 0:11:19.760 It has a lot of like holes that move on 0:11:19.880 --> 0:11:23.520 angles that makes it play more narrow, and I'm I'm 0:11:23.600 --> 0:11:27.960 just curious with with where modern golf is going, where 0:11:28.000 --> 0:11:30.360 it's just you know, hit driver, and this is I 0:11:30.360 --> 0:11:33.280 think something that's fascinating with the Open in general. The 0:11:33.360 --> 0:11:38.600 Open has kind of pushed back with firm conditions. I 0:11:38.640 --> 0:11:42.680 think the unpredictable rough has an impact on this, and 0:11:42.720 --> 0:11:44.960 then also just the weather that you can encounter. 0:11:45.120 --> 0:11:45.280 Right. 0:11:45.400 --> 0:11:49.559 It's you can get in some really unbeneficial places hitting 0:11:49.559 --> 0:11:53.440 it really close. But this golf course has a sharp 0:11:53.480 --> 0:11:57.920 penalty for bunker misses. It is fairly narrow. It is 0:11:57.960 --> 0:12:00.520 a golf course that you know, if you look at 0:12:00.520 --> 0:12:03.720 Tiger and six and Rory's win, they drove the shit 0:12:03.760 --> 0:12:06.520 out of the ball. Tiger did so that driving the 0:12:06.559 --> 0:12:10.280 shit out of the ball was avoiding bunkers and placing 0:12:10.320 --> 0:12:11.360 the ball in the fairway. 0:12:11.520 --> 0:12:11.640 Right. 0:12:12.080 --> 0:12:16.360 He was playing from short grass. That was his big thing, right, 0:12:17.240 --> 0:12:19.720 So I'm just curious how this golf course holds up. 0:12:20.040 --> 0:12:23.960 What type of profile of players are we going to see. 0:12:24.440 --> 0:12:27.000 You know, we we haven't seen it since twenty fourteen. 0:12:27.120 --> 0:12:31.080 A lot has changed in golf since then, and I 0:12:31.120 --> 0:12:34.800 think that's something that I'm fascinated by. And like Cam Smith, 0:12:35.240 --> 0:12:37.320 I'm not gonna lie. He's my one and done pick. 0:12:37.760 --> 0:12:39.600 You know, if I was picking somebody for the tournament, 0:12:39.679 --> 0:12:41.959 it might be something different, Like I'm in a one 0:12:42.000 --> 0:12:44.920 and done league that I've used almost every big name, 0:12:45.000 --> 0:12:49.120 Like he's going to be my pick, But how's he profile? 0:12:49.360 --> 0:12:51.240 And the thing about cam is like he's such a 0:12:51.240 --> 0:12:53.560 good player. He profiles well everywhere, Like we saw him 0:12:53.559 --> 0:12:55.800 at Okill top ten and he didn't even play well 0:12:57.120 --> 0:12:59.200 and that wasn't a golf course that would you would 0:12:59.240 --> 0:13:02.040 say fits the camp Smith profile. But I think the 0:13:02.080 --> 0:13:06.679 thing that happens in abroad with camp Smith is that 0:13:06.800 --> 0:13:09.600 the elements come out and it's it's about shot making 0:13:09.720 --> 0:13:12.840 and there's some more artistry in the game, and I 0:13:12.880 --> 0:13:17.040 think that's that really really benefits him. So that one 0:13:17.040 --> 0:13:20.680 of mine is kind of around driving the golf ball 0:13:20.800 --> 0:13:25.040 in Hoylake, which at Hoylake, which is an interesting intersection 0:13:25.120 --> 0:13:27.040 with camp Do you think do you think what's your 0:13:27.080 --> 0:13:27.559 next one? 0:13:27.679 --> 0:13:29.400 I was gonna ask real quid. Do you think number 0:13:29.440 --> 0:13:31.680 one is an example of that? With the internal ob 0:13:32.120 --> 0:13:33.360 or are you a king? Ad? 0:13:33.440 --> 0:13:36.560 So that would be the third hole in terms of 0:13:37.040 --> 0:13:39.440 what I like about is because that's the third hole 0:13:39.480 --> 0:13:40.120 for the tournament. 0:13:40.800 --> 0:13:42.640 I think one on that it's one on the course 0:13:42.679 --> 0:13:46.800 but third in the tournament, right, Yeah, exactly what I like. 0:13:47.240 --> 0:13:51.120 That hole kind of presents it right. You're gonna get 0:13:51.160 --> 0:13:55.040 these firm conditions, and there's holes that move in directions, right, 0:13:55.720 --> 0:13:58.440 they aren't like straight holes, Yeah, a lot of them. 0:13:58.800 --> 0:14:01.800 When they move into direct actions. With the firm conditions, 0:14:02.520 --> 0:14:06.880 you're having to pick a line and distant, if that 0:14:06.920 --> 0:14:10.280 makes sense. So with that whole especially, you need to 0:14:10.280 --> 0:14:12.280 pick a line where you're going to cut some of 0:14:12.320 --> 0:14:12.760 it off. 0:14:12.920 --> 0:14:15.320 And if you don't pick it, if you're too safe 0:14:15.360 --> 0:14:17.480 with your line, you're going to run through into the 0:14:17.559 --> 0:14:20.600 rough right right if you're too aggressive, or if you 0:14:20.640 --> 0:14:23.440 push it for right hand or you're going to end 0:14:23.520 --> 0:14:25.720 up maybe ob So these guys are going to be 0:14:25.760 --> 0:14:28.920 more conservative there. But yeah, that's a perfect example of 0:14:28.960 --> 0:14:34.120 it where you know, the the the emphasis on driving 0:14:34.240 --> 0:14:38.120 is created a lot by the way the fairway moves, 0:14:38.200 --> 0:14:42.440 where you're starting to have to pick distance targets and 0:14:43.360 --> 0:14:47.120 line targets. When a fairway's just straight, you just are 0:14:47.320 --> 0:14:50.320 trying to hit it straight right, and you don't have 0:14:50.360 --> 0:14:52.480 to worry about picking a distance because you know if 0:14:52.520 --> 0:14:54.960 you hit it straight, it can go any distance, right 0:14:55.360 --> 0:14:58.720 when a fairway like this is what Pete Die does, 0:14:58.800 --> 0:15:02.880 I think really well, is that those Pete Die courses 0:15:02.920 --> 0:15:06.040 and why they say timeless, I think to a certain 0:15:06.040 --> 0:15:09.080 extent is because of the way the fairways move on angles. 0:15:09.120 --> 0:15:11.920 A lot of times even straight holes have some angular 0:15:12.080 --> 0:15:15.000 nature to them. And what it does is it really 0:15:15.040 --> 0:15:19.920 creates a double decision rather than just a singular decision. 0:15:20.240 --> 0:15:20.880 So I think. 0:15:20.760 --> 0:15:24.600 That's one of the I think the fairway bunkers being 0:15:24.720 --> 0:15:29.320 super penal, along with the way the fairways some of 0:15:29.080 --> 0:15:33.960 the angles set up make this a really really tough 0:15:34.440 --> 0:15:39.280 driving test, right, And I'm curious if it's going to 0:15:39.320 --> 0:15:43.440 be if in the last you know, almost ten years, 0:15:44.200 --> 0:15:47.000 with the way distances, how many long hitters there are 0:15:47.040 --> 0:15:50.360 now are there? How is it going to work? That's 0:15:50.440 --> 0:15:52.200 that's kind of one of the things I'm watching. 0:15:52.640 --> 0:15:56.120 Yeah, there's there's a whole I think it's like fourteen 0:15:56.400 --> 0:16:01.080 on the back where Tiger hold out in what was 0:16:01.080 --> 0:16:06.880 that twosy six five? Whenever you want that and uh, 0:16:08.520 --> 0:16:13.320 it's it's it is set. What you're saying fits that. 0:16:13.480 --> 0:16:15.800 Also because there's a there's a bunker that you can 0:16:15.840 --> 0:16:18.120 cover or you can kind of go, it's gonna be 0:16:18.160 --> 0:16:20.680 really interesting because I think in the past that's been 0:16:20.720 --> 0:16:23.240 such an advantage for Rory Tiger guys that are so 0:16:23.400 --> 0:16:26.920 long off the tee. But now do you bring eighty 0:16:27.000 --> 0:16:30.560 guys into that, one hundred guys into that, you know, 0:16:30.640 --> 0:16:34.360 will they challenge differently. I think that it's always interesting 0:16:34.400 --> 0:16:38.160 it opens because it's there's so much variability in play. 0:16:38.200 --> 0:16:41.600 But I think what you're saying perhaps even even more 0:16:41.640 --> 0:16:44.720 so this year. You mentioned the weather. That's actually my 0:16:44.840 --> 0:16:50.120 second one, and the reason is because I can't remember 0:16:50.640 --> 0:16:53.040 the last time we had I mean, growing up, you 0:16:53.080 --> 0:16:56.160 think about watching the Open, you think about some of 0:16:56.200 --> 0:16:59.960 the just insane stuff that we saw on TV whenever 0:17:00.120 --> 0:17:02.920 or the Open was being played, and you had these 0:17:02.960 --> 0:17:06.720 crazy weather days and guys shooting eighty eighty five whatever. 0:17:07.760 --> 0:17:10.840 We haven't really had that in the last several years. Right, 0:17:11.040 --> 0:17:16.120 last year was perfect all four days. Twenty twenty one, 0:17:16.280 --> 0:17:19.159 Royal Saint George's it didn't There was no win, There 0:17:19.359 --> 0:17:22.680 wasn't a lot going on twenty twenty, there was no tournament. 0:17:23.160 --> 0:17:24.880 You kind of got to go back to twenty nineteen 0:17:24.920 --> 0:17:27.840 at Port Rush when it and it wasn't really it 0:17:27.880 --> 0:17:30.119 was just kind of rainy. It wasn't like horrible weather, 0:17:30.840 --> 0:17:34.080 but I would love to WESTI went no rain jack 0:17:34.119 --> 0:17:38.560 at that day. Yeah, question it was was bold. That 0:17:38.600 --> 0:17:42.760 was That was when Fleetwood started buying stuff out of 0:17:42.800 --> 0:17:48.560 the gift shop and using like open umbrellas and headcovers. 0:17:47.920 --> 0:17:49.840 And went he went full Sandy Lou. 0:17:50.119 --> 0:17:52.879 Yeah. Yeah, Sandy might have bought it for him so 0:17:52.920 --> 0:17:56.280 he can get recognized. But I want to see that 0:17:56.440 --> 0:18:00.520 day or two days or whatever of really like, hey, 0:18:00.560 --> 0:18:03.320 this is this is going to be horrible to play in. 0:18:03.600 --> 0:18:06.120 Let's see can you can you get through this stretch? 0:18:06.960 --> 0:18:10.120 Can the leaders get through this stretch? And you know 0:18:10.200 --> 0:18:13.560 that that to me is part of the open Championship 0:18:13.640 --> 0:18:15.520 test and we just we just haven't seen it in 0:18:15.600 --> 0:18:16.440 several years. 0:18:16.760 --> 0:18:21.400 Early forecasts predict a lot of rain, like rain every day. 0:18:21.600 --> 0:18:23.199 Well I don't want that. I just want like one 0:18:23.280 --> 0:18:23.719 day of it. 0:18:24.160 --> 0:18:26.320 We'll see, we'll see how it is. I I know 0:18:26.359 --> 0:18:29.439 it's very sandy there, so hopefully it'll still be pretty 0:18:29.480 --> 0:18:33.520 firm and everything. I know it's a very sandy site 0:18:33.680 --> 0:18:36.760 and they had a really dry couple months, but recently 0:18:36.800 --> 0:18:39.560 it's been been pretty wet out there. But yeah, like 0:18:39.600 --> 0:18:42.000 you want that brooks Kopka was it was it the 0:18:42.000 --> 0:18:49.000 old course where yeah, so yeah, I I I think 0:18:49.040 --> 0:18:53.360 the interest of this tournament and is like the weather, right, 0:18:53.480 --> 0:18:56.200 that's it's always got to be a big story because 0:18:56.680 --> 0:19:02.080 it is the the thing that is the is the test, 0:19:02.200 --> 0:19:06.240 like it's kind of the last remaining I think it's 0:19:06.280 --> 0:19:12.439 the last remaining thing that really really introduces variability to 0:19:12.520 --> 0:19:13.040 the sport. 0:19:13.400 --> 0:19:16.960 Yep, especially wind right, Like you talk to these guys 0:19:16.960 --> 0:19:19.040 and it's like the one thing that they just can't 0:19:19.080 --> 0:19:22.199 handle is wind, Like they don't they don't have an 0:19:22.200 --> 0:19:25.560 answer for it. And that's where you start to see 0:19:25.600 --> 0:19:30.879 like the true like flushers and ball strikers start to 0:19:30.920 --> 0:19:35.000 emerge and that like I love that because it's it's 0:19:35.040 --> 0:19:37.840 it's a variability that there's no answers for. Everything else 0:19:37.880 --> 0:19:40.560 has an answer that you can't solve that, and I'd 0:19:40.600 --> 0:19:45.960 love to see more of that presented by mother nature. 0:19:45.960 --> 0:19:48.480 I guess in this tournament. 0:19:49.000 --> 0:19:52.720 I mean once we once we moved a full simulator golf, 0:19:53.400 --> 0:19:56.000 we'll be able to just put set the settings to 0:19:56.040 --> 0:19:56.880 twenty mile an hour. 0:19:56.960 --> 0:20:00.199 Whims sure are they gonna have fans in TGL Like 0:20:00.280 --> 0:20:03.560 not people, but like the like actual fans just blowing 0:20:03.600 --> 0:20:05.520 balls all over the place would be amazing. 0:20:05.760 --> 0:20:08.680 Hey, they're trying to make the most real golf experience. 0:20:08.760 --> 0:20:09.400 You're amazing. 0:20:09.560 --> 0:20:13.359 I saw in a press release, so all right along 0:20:13.400 --> 0:20:16.119 those lines, I think because of wind, because of weather, 0:20:16.200 --> 0:20:19.400 because of firm conditions, because of some of the nuance 0:20:19.480 --> 0:20:23.399 in the golf courses. I think this is the experience 0:20:23.520 --> 0:20:27.119 is something I always watched for. I think the profile 0:20:27.359 --> 0:20:30.960 of who is a favorite is much different at the 0:20:31.000 --> 0:20:35.399 Open than everywhere else. Yeah, the average winter age of 0:20:35.440 --> 0:20:37.680 the last eleven opens, do you know what it is? 0:20:38.359 --> 0:20:40.480 I remember seeing this. I think it's like thirty six. 0:20:41.359 --> 0:20:44.640 It's thirty four brought it the last two more cow 0:20:44.760 --> 0:20:47.359 and Cam twenty five, twenty eight brought it down a 0:20:47.359 --> 0:20:47.840 little bit. 0:20:47.720 --> 0:20:51.040 Because she had to show through and Stenson, yeah, ZJ. 0:20:52.080 --> 0:20:55.040 Darren Clark was forty one, Ernie was forty one, Phil 0:20:55.160 --> 0:20:58.720 was forty two, Rory was twenty four, ZJ thirty nine, 0:20:58.800 --> 0:21:04.880 Stenson forty, Speak twenty four, Mullinari thirty six, Lowry thirty three, 0:21:05.680 --> 0:21:10.160 Markow twenty five, Campsmith twenty eight. Obviously, you know, if 0:21:10.160 --> 0:21:12.359 you went with a median instead of an average, it 0:21:12.359 --> 0:21:15.720 would be probably about thirty six. Yeah, I if I'm 0:21:15.760 --> 0:21:19.720 just eyeballing it correctly, but yeah, so this is a 0:21:20.000 --> 0:21:22.000 this is a golf course, it ties in with your 0:21:22.000 --> 0:21:25.119 weather thing, or this is a tournament that favors you know, 0:21:25.200 --> 0:21:31.160 the old and I'm wondering, I'm wondering, do we get 0:21:31.320 --> 0:21:32.560 do we get a wiley guy? 0:21:33.160 --> 0:21:35.680 Padrig? Padrig's in it, Padrig. 0:21:35.920 --> 0:21:39.199 I mean I always like I'm I've said this on 0:21:39.320 --> 0:21:43.399 other preview pods. I'm waiting, I'm waiting for Adam Scott 0:21:43.440 --> 0:21:46.399 to get his second man. Yeah, I know, Sergio's not 0:21:46.480 --> 0:21:49.720 in it. So like you know, you got like Justin Rose, 0:21:49.800 --> 0:21:52.760 other people that would maybe profile in there. But I 0:21:52.800 --> 0:21:55.680 think like Adam Scott's always the one that makes sense, 0:21:55.720 --> 0:21:57.800 and like you look at his career, you look at 0:21:57.880 --> 0:22:00.840 everything he's accomplished. It's like, God, he's got to have 0:22:00.920 --> 0:22:03.639 two majors and obviously he kind of kicked one away. 0:22:04.040 --> 0:22:08.919 Yeah in an open kind of yeah, maybe more than 0:22:09.400 --> 0:22:09.760 kind of. 0:22:10.800 --> 0:22:12.560 I mean, he but he's the guy, right like if 0:22:12.880 --> 0:22:16.320 you look at and you do the thing with players 0:22:16.359 --> 0:22:17.440 as a half major. 0:22:17.240 --> 0:22:21.919 Right, yeah, well that was Garrett's idea. Okay, probably correct, 0:22:21.960 --> 0:22:24.920 but it makes more sense when you do the half major, Well, 0:22:24.920 --> 0:22:25.720 it totally does. 0:22:25.760 --> 0:22:29.160 But I think he's the guy him and probably Sergio 0:22:29.240 --> 0:22:32.200 that if you look at just what they've accomplished over 0:22:32.240 --> 0:22:35.199 the course of their careers, it doesn't it doesn't really 0:22:36.840 --> 0:22:40.000 add up or make sense that they only have one 0:22:40.040 --> 0:22:44.160 major championship. And I think, you know, you could throw 0:22:44.240 --> 0:22:46.119 Jason Day in there, but the thing about Adam Scott 0:22:46.160 --> 0:22:49.960 compared to Jason Day is like the breadth of achievement, right, 0:22:49.960 --> 0:22:52.840 Like he's he's been good, he's been elite for like 0:22:53.040 --> 0:22:54.160 twenty years. 0:22:54.440 --> 0:22:59.720 Yeah, we're into the twenties, into the twenties, and they're 0:22:59.840 --> 0:23:04.280 so few guys, yeah, in golf history that are relevant 0:23:04.320 --> 0:23:05.440 for twenty plus years. 0:23:05.720 --> 0:23:08.639 Yeah, And I think that, you know, I think he 0:23:08.760 --> 0:23:12.800 can take some encouragement from the last, well from the 0:23:12.840 --> 0:23:15.160 Open the history you just read, but even the last 0:23:15.200 --> 0:23:17.960 like Phil winning Kiowa and different things that have happened 0:23:17.960 --> 0:23:20.720 over the last several years. I think Harry Player said 0:23:20.720 --> 0:23:23.520 that somebody in their sixties is going to win a major. 0:23:23.680 --> 0:23:25.359 So he also said the ball is going to go 0:23:25.400 --> 0:23:27.480 like five hundred yards at the Masters this year. So 0:23:28.840 --> 0:23:32.600 I don't know, but Adam Scott and Sergio to me 0:23:32.880 --> 0:23:35.200 are the two guys that if you just look at 0:23:35.720 --> 0:23:39.240 ball strikers and not just ball strike not just like 0:23:39.520 --> 0:23:43.840 okay driving range hitters, but also winners globally global winners 0:23:43.960 --> 0:23:47.600 like have won everywhere for a long time. They're the 0:23:47.640 --> 0:23:50.199 two to me that really stand out ash as like 0:23:50.840 --> 0:23:54.719 their career needs one more major to really kind of 0:23:54.800 --> 0:23:58.800 make sense. Yeah, I would agree with that, And I 0:23:59.520 --> 0:24:02.880 think like Adam Scott, you you look at his game 0:24:02.920 --> 0:24:06.879 and it's still a game that for a week, you know, 0:24:06.960 --> 0:24:09.040 he's not going to be in it every week. 0:24:09.200 --> 0:24:12.240 He's not a top ten player anymore. I don't think 0:24:12.280 --> 0:24:16.640 that's but he certainly has the capabilities to win one 0:24:16.680 --> 0:24:19.679 of these, And I think, like what's interesting is like 0:24:19.720 --> 0:24:22.280 a top ten player week in week out. I think 0:24:22.320 --> 0:24:25.159 you can make an argument that in terms of majors, 0:24:25.200 --> 0:24:28.399 he probably is like a top fifteen player no matter what, 0:24:29.119 --> 0:24:32.119 top twenty player, just from from the sense of what 0:24:32.160 --> 0:24:35.000 he can do and what he has done at majors 0:24:35.040 --> 0:24:37.080 and how his game works. What do you what do 0:24:37.080 --> 0:24:38.200 you got next? 0:24:38.680 --> 0:24:41.080 I was just looking at his finishes. He's he doesn't 0:24:41.080 --> 0:24:42.560 have do you know when his last top ten in 0:24:42.640 --> 0:24:46.679 a major is by the way, wildgo hasn't been pretty 0:24:46.880 --> 0:24:50.560 twenty nineteen Bell Reeve. The year after that, twenty nineteen 0:24:50.680 --> 0:24:55.320 US Open. Where was twenty nineteen? Was that pebble? 0:24:56.359 --> 0:24:57.680 Yeah, pebble Woodland. 0:24:59.040 --> 0:25:04.040 It's a long time. My next thing is your boy 0:25:05.560 --> 0:25:12.359 Jordan Speith, this is this is his best major? HPOY. Well, yeah, 0:25:12.520 --> 0:25:15.800 I mean you've talked about him a lot. This is 0:25:15.800 --> 0:25:18.800 his best major championship. I think that. I think when 0:25:18.840 --> 0:25:23.520 people think of Jordan Speed, it's very easy to run 0:25:23.560 --> 0:25:28.080 to Augusta, run to the Masters, run to everything that 0:25:28.119 --> 0:25:31.960 he's done there, which makes sense, right, He's one one, 0:25:32.160 --> 0:25:34.879 he probably should have two, maybe could have three, just 0:25:34.920 --> 0:25:36.960 based on the way he's played there. But the reality 0:25:36.960 --> 0:25:39.240 of that of Speed is that over the course of 0:25:39.240 --> 0:25:44.439 his career, the Open has been really his best major. 0:25:44.840 --> 0:25:47.880 You know, even when he was playing badly back in 0:25:49.840 --> 0:25:55.000 twenties eighteen nineteen twenty, he was still like top twenty 0:25:55.040 --> 0:25:59.600 in this in this major championship, like he's been And 0:25:59.640 --> 0:26:01.720 it makes since he explained this a couple of years 0:26:01.720 --> 0:26:04.080 ago at Royal St. George's, I think the quote was like, 0:26:05.040 --> 0:26:08.040 you're not just hitting driving range shots at Palm Springs, right, 0:26:08.080 --> 0:26:13.320 you have It engages the creativity of your mind. And 0:26:13.480 --> 0:26:16.240 that's where I think he said, like, when I'm living 0:26:17.119 --> 0:26:20.679 externally rather than internally, that's when I'm at my best, 0:26:20.840 --> 0:26:23.600 Which makes total sense because if you watch Jordan's p 0:26:23.760 --> 0:26:25.840 for ten minutes, you're like, yeah, that guy needs to 0:26:25.880 --> 0:26:29.600 not be in his own head, and this tournament forces 0:26:29.680 --> 0:26:32.399 him out of it and allows him to play with 0:26:32.400 --> 0:26:35.240 a freedom that I don't think he plays with at 0:26:35.440 --> 0:26:39.080 the Travelers or the RBC Heritage or you know some 0:26:39.160 --> 0:26:41.639 of these other places the guys go to. So I 0:26:41.800 --> 0:26:45.080 just this, to me, annually is his best chance to 0:26:45.119 --> 0:26:47.920 win a major. He could tie Rory if he wins it. 0:26:48.240 --> 0:26:51.639 He's not particularly playing great golf, but again, I just 0:26:51.680 --> 0:26:55.840 don't know how much it matters how well he specifically 0:26:55.920 --> 0:26:57.480 is playing coming into this tournament. 0:26:58.040 --> 0:27:02.200 Yeah, I would agree that this is this in in Augusta, 0:27:02.320 --> 0:27:06.480 they profile for him, right, especially with with the way 0:27:07.200 --> 0:27:10.000 the PGA and in the in the US Open of 0:27:10.320 --> 0:27:13.560 historically set it up, and you see the skills rewarded. 0:27:14.080 --> 0:27:17.639 You know, I just spent it's spent a long time. 0:27:18.040 --> 0:27:21.880 That's that would be my my my concern, right, it's 0:27:21.960 --> 0:27:24.720 just uh, you know, spent a long time, and I 0:27:24.800 --> 0:27:28.320 think he's like a dramatically different person and player, uh 0:27:28.359 --> 0:27:29.160 than he used. 0:27:28.960 --> 0:27:29.680 To be, right. 0:27:29.880 --> 0:27:32.840 I think that's the the unique thing about golf, right, 0:27:33.119 --> 0:27:40.240 is that it is somewhat about athleticism, somewhat about a technique, 0:27:40.320 --> 0:27:43.280 and somewhat about the mental side of the game, And 0:27:43.920 --> 0:27:48.240 that's the one that is so vulnerable, right, And I 0:27:48.480 --> 0:27:50.280 don't know, I I would love to see it. 0:27:50.840 --> 0:27:51.000 Uh. 0:27:51.080 --> 0:27:57.600 He obviously he brings brings a popularity and just a 0:27:57.840 --> 0:28:02.080 his it's it's fun a watch right like it is, 0:28:02.480 --> 0:28:05.960 it's it's a it's an exhilarating form of golf because 0:28:06.000 --> 0:28:09.560 of there's a certain relatability with his game and and 0:28:09.680 --> 0:28:13.160 craziness that I think, like any any average joke can 0:28:13.200 --> 0:28:16.919 see in it. But I, uh, you know, I just 0:28:17.080 --> 0:28:22.720 I wonder, I wonder, and I it'd be great to see. 0:28:22.800 --> 0:28:25.399 But I just always go back to like, is have 0:28:25.520 --> 0:28:27.080 we seen the best Jordan Speith? 0:28:27.240 --> 0:28:29.520 And is there? 0:28:29.720 --> 0:28:30.600 Can you get it back? 0:28:31.000 --> 0:28:33.159 I think what's interesting about what you just said is 0:28:33.200 --> 0:28:37.800 that it almost and this is everything I look at. 0:28:37.800 --> 0:28:40.720 Patrick Carrington's quote at Kiowa is like this sort of 0:28:40.760 --> 0:28:44.240 the source quote for talking about a lot of the 0:28:44.320 --> 0:28:48.480 psychoanalysis stuff, like you know, like what he said there. 0:28:49.440 --> 0:28:53.080 I just like experience. Experience, isn't it all? It's cracked 0:28:53.160 --> 0:28:56.720 up to me to be with experience, you lose innocence. 0:28:56.880 --> 0:28:59.760 I believe this. Yeah, And it's just like the perfect 0:28:59.800 --> 0:29:03.960 way to describe so much Harrington talk. So I know 0:29:04.120 --> 0:29:07.120 he might win, I might pick him from my one 0:29:07.200 --> 0:29:12.360 and done. But the thing with speed, or not just 0:29:12.400 --> 0:29:15.560 with speed, but with anybody, it's like, as you evolve 0:29:15.600 --> 0:29:18.720 as a person, because we talk about these guys not 0:29:18.800 --> 0:29:21.520 just as players but also as people. Right, as you 0:29:21.600 --> 0:29:24.680 evolve as a person, it can work against you because 0:29:25.680 --> 0:29:29.480 you're becoming a different person than you were three years ago, 0:29:29.600 --> 0:29:34.440 five years ago, or ten years ago. And whether it's 0:29:34.520 --> 0:29:37.080 noticeable or not, it's probably it probably isn't noticeable in 0:29:37.120 --> 0:29:39.040 a lot of ways because it's a daily thing. Right. 0:29:39.040 --> 0:29:42.600 I think about your evolution as a person from before 0:29:42.640 --> 0:29:44.720 you were married to now being married and having a 0:29:44.800 --> 0:29:47.240 kid and having a business and all these different things, 0:29:47.240 --> 0:29:49.880 Like you're such a different person than you were ten 0:29:49.960 --> 0:29:53.600 years ago, and that can like really affect the way 0:29:53.640 --> 0:29:58.520 that you think about everything. And the one thing that 0:29:58.640 --> 0:30:02.959 Tiger never really he did which worked against him as 0:30:02.960 --> 0:30:05.840 a person, but for him as a player, He didn't 0:30:05.880 --> 0:30:08.520 really evolve as a person. He was kind of just 0:30:08.640 --> 0:30:14.600 like the twenty year old dude for twenty years. Well, 0:30:14.720 --> 0:30:18.640 you could make the argument that when he did evolve, 0:30:18.800 --> 0:30:24.920 when his world came crashing down, is when he became beatable. 0:30:25.280 --> 0:30:29.479 Yeah, right, like it it kind of there's there's Tiger 0:30:29.520 --> 0:30:32.880 Part one and Tiger Part two and part two. You know, 0:30:33.040 --> 0:30:38.280 after the fire hydrant is not what the level of 0:30:38.360 --> 0:30:41.440 dominance Part one was. And obviously there are injuries and 0:30:41.520 --> 0:30:44.640 all other all sorts of other things. But you know 0:30:44.880 --> 0:30:48.200 that I think that moment probably dramatically changed him as 0:30:48.240 --> 0:30:48.640 a person. 0:30:48.960 --> 0:30:53.640 Yeah, And it doesn't mean you can't win or that 0:30:53.720 --> 0:30:57.240 you shouldn't evolve as a person. But I don't know 0:30:57.280 --> 0:31:00.480 that we give it enough credit in terms of the 0:31:00.480 --> 0:31:03.840 way that we think about guys. 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Thank you, 0:33:29.640 --> 0:33:31.080 and now back to Kyle Porter. 0:33:37.800 --> 0:33:41.600 All Right, I got I got a couple of ways 0:33:41.600 --> 0:33:43.480 I could go off of this by remaining. 0:33:43.600 --> 0:33:46.959 Three things all fit off this, but you brought them up. 0:33:47.520 --> 0:33:50.080 So let's, uh, let's talk a little bit about Rory here. 0:33:50.200 --> 0:33:54.880 I think, I really I like you talk about evolution 0:33:55.160 --> 0:33:58.960 and different aspects of life, and I think Rory has 0:33:59.080 --> 0:34:04.720 uh in recent months moved into a new mentality of 0:34:04.840 --> 0:34:09.080 how his spot in the professional game. I think obviously 0:34:09.120 --> 0:34:12.640 he was a torch carrier, he's still very involved, but 0:34:12.880 --> 0:34:15.959 where he kind of took on this this very out 0:34:15.960 --> 0:34:19.040 front leadership role for the PGA Tour. I think a 0:34:19.080 --> 0:34:24.360 lot of his energy was devoted to pleasing people, really 0:34:24.400 --> 0:34:28.240 being you know, the voice of the tour, holding things 0:34:28.239 --> 0:34:34.120 together through tumultuous time, but also like appealing to his peers, right, 0:34:34.680 --> 0:34:39.360 and I think over the last with what's happened with 0:34:39.480 --> 0:34:41.920 the deal and kind of some of the trust things 0:34:41.920 --> 0:34:44.480 that have gone on with players and and everything, I 0:34:44.480 --> 0:34:46.719 think he's kind of in a new new type of 0:34:46.760 --> 0:34:49.280 headspace and you can see it with the way he's 0:34:49.320 --> 0:34:56.319 he's handling media since since the framework agreement was put 0:34:56.320 --> 0:35:00.600 in place, where it's it's short, the topics are are 0:35:01.160 --> 0:35:04.920 stick to golf type topics for the most part, I 0:35:04.960 --> 0:35:11.840 think he's got an edge about him that he hasn't 0:35:11.880 --> 0:35:15.319 had in a while, and I really like it. I 0:35:15.320 --> 0:35:19.920 think that we saw him play really great golf at LACC. 0:35:20.640 --> 0:35:24.560 It was it was reminiscent of of the old course 0:35:24.640 --> 0:35:25.160 last year. 0:35:25.360 --> 0:35:25.839 But like. 0:35:27.560 --> 0:35:30.600 His putter went really cold on the weekend and he 0:35:30.680 --> 0:35:34.160 had opportunities. I think like that was more of a 0:35:34.239 --> 0:35:36.200 fact of like you look at it and it's like wow, 0:35:36.480 --> 0:35:39.680 like two putts go in. He had lots of chances 0:35:39.719 --> 0:35:43.480 it's as completely different story. And obviously Wyndham Clark made 0:35:43.640 --> 0:35:47.080 made the putts, but like that that was a situation 0:35:47.160 --> 0:35:49.680 where Rory probably could have won that tournament by four 0:35:49.840 --> 0:35:54.120 or five if if he if his putter wasn't ice cold. 0:35:54.360 --> 0:35:58.960 And I just like, I like his mentality. I think 0:35:58.960 --> 0:36:02.120 he's hitting driving ball great, which is an important thing 0:36:02.200 --> 0:36:05.040 to do out here, and we know that, like he's 0:36:05.120 --> 0:36:08.480 just on a different level with the driver. I think 0:36:08.960 --> 0:36:11.879 that was something that I took away from from from 0:36:12.040 --> 0:36:15.440 la Is just like how he can you know, long 0:36:15.520 --> 0:36:20.520 players on the tour, he's routinely twenty past him. I 0:36:20.640 --> 0:36:23.680 just think that mentally he's in the best place that 0:36:23.760 --> 0:36:26.480 he's been in a long time with his golf game. 0:36:27.040 --> 0:36:31.000 And I think that this is, uh, this is probably 0:36:31.040 --> 0:36:32.640 setting up for a great week for him. 0:36:32.920 --> 0:36:35.280 Yeah, I think I think what you said is correct, 0:36:35.360 --> 0:36:37.600 and I think people will give a lot of I 0:36:37.640 --> 0:36:39.040 guess this is what I was trying to say earlier. 0:36:39.040 --> 0:36:40.960 People will give a lot of credit to Oh, he 0:36:41.040 --> 0:36:43.920 won here in twenty fourteen, and you're like, well, that 0:36:43.960 --> 0:36:47.359 matters a lot less than how he's like the fact 0:36:47.400 --> 0:36:50.040 that he's playing very well right now, you know, like 0:36:50.239 --> 0:36:54.960 it doesn't. It's a fun storyline. It doesn't. How the 0:36:54.960 --> 0:36:57.280 fact that he won here in twenty fourteen doesn't really 0:36:57.960 --> 0:37:00.640 affect whether or not he's going to win in twenty three. 0:37:01.000 --> 0:37:07.399 I think the thing the thing for me that guy 0:37:07.480 --> 0:37:10.560 he hit it so good in La like it to me. 0:37:10.640 --> 0:37:14.080 It was so different than that final round at the 0:37:14.080 --> 0:37:14.720 old course. 0:37:15.360 --> 0:37:16.560 He wasn't as good. 0:37:16.800 --> 0:37:19.040 No, he hit it okay, but he had all these 0:37:19.120 --> 0:37:23.640 like thirty foot putts and eighteen foot putts and just 0:37:23.640 --> 0:37:28.360 just a lot of kind of nothing. And I didn't 0:37:28.360 --> 0:37:30.319 feel like he hit it as tight as he hit 0:37:30.360 --> 0:37:33.000 it those last couple of days in LA. I mean, 0:37:33.000 --> 0:37:35.960 that was just like a show, and it was. It 0:37:36.000 --> 0:37:38.840 was awesome to watch Andy. The thing that really stood 0:37:38.880 --> 0:37:43.799 out for me with him on that final day was, 0:37:43.920 --> 0:37:46.680 and I had not heard this in the last nine years, 0:37:46.719 --> 0:37:51.239 he said, when I win my next major right in 0:37:51.560 --> 0:37:54.799 the in the in the press conference afterwards, and I 0:37:54.800 --> 0:37:57.640 had not heard him talk so definitively about the fact 0:37:57.680 --> 0:37:59.719 that he's gonna win another major, And I thought that 0:37:59.719 --> 0:38:03.960 that was a real it was a real shift in 0:38:04.080 --> 0:38:08.800 his at least from my perspective, for where he's where 0:38:08.800 --> 0:38:11.600 he's at in his career because I think he this 0:38:11.680 --> 0:38:14.399 is it's so weird I think for people to hear. 0:38:14.480 --> 0:38:18.279 But I think he struggles with I don't maybe not 0:38:18.320 --> 0:38:21.319 self confidence, but just like he has to be reminded, hey, 0:38:21.360 --> 0:38:24.840 you're the I mean it's the it's the JP quote 0:38:24.840 --> 0:38:28.040 where he said you're Rory Fan McElroy, right. He has 0:38:28.080 --> 0:38:31.200 to be reminded of that almost, and I think there's 0:38:31.200 --> 0:38:36.120 some like self awareness in there that is like, again, 0:38:36.200 --> 0:38:39.800 a good thing is a human but you know, sometimes 0:38:39.880 --> 0:38:42.880 bad as a player because you have to have somebody 0:38:42.920 --> 0:38:45.239 reminding you, hey, you're Rory. You're Rory. You're Rory. You're 0:38:45.280 --> 0:38:47.680 one of the twenty five thirty best guys of all time. 0:38:48.560 --> 0:38:51.000 And I think he I think he believes that right 0:38:51.040 --> 0:38:54.239 now and honestly, the way he's playing at the Scottish 0:38:54.239 --> 0:38:56.400 I I honestly would not be surprised if he won 0:38:56.480 --> 0:38:58.120 the Open by like five strokes. 0:38:58.480 --> 0:39:02.359 Yeah, I'm golf at every level. I say this to 0:39:02.520 --> 0:39:05.360 like people that tell me how they suck at golf, 0:39:05.480 --> 0:39:09.280 Like before, I'm like, listen, like everybody at every level 0:39:09.840 --> 0:39:13.319 goes through periods where they think they suck golf. And 0:39:13.400 --> 0:39:16.480 I think that's very true of the best players in 0:39:16.520 --> 0:39:20.040 the world. It's very true of people like Rory Brooks 0:39:20.160 --> 0:39:23.640 was very open about it on Netflix, you know. But 0:39:23.880 --> 0:39:26.920 I think, like one of the other things, just to 0:39:27.040 --> 0:39:29.520 kind of distill what I was getting at earlier a 0:39:29.520 --> 0:39:32.720 little bit more, I think to be the best player 0:39:32.760 --> 0:39:36.000 in the world, you have to be extraordinarily selfish with 0:39:36.040 --> 0:39:40.000 your time, yep. And I think that that's something that 0:39:40.080 --> 0:39:44.880 has shifted with Rory, is that he's being more selfish, 0:39:44.960 --> 0:39:48.840 more judicious. He's not answering questions about everything he doesn't. 0:39:48.880 --> 0:39:52.200 I think he cares less about what other people think 0:39:52.239 --> 0:39:55.240 of him than ever before. And I think that while 0:39:55.440 --> 0:39:58.040 might not be the best trait, you know, for life, 0:39:58.280 --> 0:40:02.040 always it is the best trait to play the best golf, 0:40:02.560 --> 0:40:04.440 to be the best golfer in the world. And I 0:40:04.440 --> 0:40:08.920 think that it's an edge. It is a is a 0:40:09.239 --> 0:40:12.440 important asset to have on the golf course. 0:40:13.200 --> 0:40:17.160 Sean Zach and I were talking after the PGA because 0:40:17.440 --> 0:40:20.480 obviously golf media's favorite thing to do is to dissect 0:40:20.560 --> 0:40:24.319 why Rory's not winning majors, and we were joking about 0:40:24.360 --> 0:40:27.600 how he should just impress conferences. Say you know what, 0:40:27.719 --> 0:40:30.680 Andy like f you, I'm not answering that question, you know, 0:40:30.800 --> 0:40:34.400 and just start like just start going off on people 0:40:34.920 --> 0:40:38.080 and how that he would never do that obviously, but 0:40:38.760 --> 0:40:40.840 in a in a way that's a little bit of 0:40:41.160 --> 0:40:44.560 like his sort of where his mentality has gone a 0:40:44.560 --> 0:40:46.879 little bit. I think, do you do you think it's 0:40:46.920 --> 0:40:50.120 the is it the merger or the whatever, don't call 0:40:50.160 --> 0:40:53.840 it a merger. Is it the deal that has pushed 0:40:53.880 --> 0:40:55.120 him in that direction? Do you think? 0:40:56.400 --> 0:40:59.480 I I'm not sure. I you know, I think I 0:40:59.480 --> 0:41:02.360 think probably probably that I think that has something to 0:41:02.440 --> 0:41:08.279 do with it. I imagine I imagine that there was 0:41:08.520 --> 0:41:11.640 you know, he obviously was somebody that was was telling 0:41:11.680 --> 0:41:16.160 people to be loyal, and I imagine I imagine that 0:41:17.160 --> 0:41:21.600 after that happened, there was people that were upset with 0:41:21.719 --> 0:41:26.839 him and and like you know, felt betrayed by him 0:41:26.920 --> 0:41:31.120 and the tour, and and I think, like you know, 0:41:31.719 --> 0:41:35.600 he was doing looking out forever for the best interests 0:41:35.600 --> 0:41:41.440 of the sport, right, And I think I imagine that getting 0:41:42.000 --> 0:41:45.680 heaps of blame placed on you, or any any blame 0:41:45.960 --> 0:41:49.200 you know, from your peers, would would make you feel 0:41:49.280 --> 0:41:52.839 pretty you know. And I think the media was tough 0:41:52.880 --> 0:41:56.200 on him too, To be completely honest, some some media, right, 0:41:56.719 --> 0:41:59.000 Like I think there was you know, there's a lot 0:41:59.040 --> 0:42:02.400 of narratives. I just i'd imagined that that was a 0:42:03.880 --> 0:42:07.520 that I think that probably had the biggest impact of 0:42:09.800 --> 0:42:12.719 I don't you know. I wouldn't say like he's dramatically 0:42:12.840 --> 0:42:16.040 different human being at this point, but I noticed there's 0:42:16.080 --> 0:42:18.960 an edge to him that that hasn't I don't think 0:42:19.000 --> 0:42:19.800 it's been around. 0:42:20.120 --> 0:42:23.480 Would you would you say tough? Do you mean critical? Yeah? 0:42:23.600 --> 0:42:26.200 I think there was there's some criticism. I think there was. 0:42:26.719 --> 0:42:29.399 There's I think there's just that that like look at 0:42:29.560 --> 0:42:33.200 look at this, like you know, live guys win type yeah, right, 0:42:34.440 --> 0:42:38.919 And and I think like we don't know. I think 0:42:38.920 --> 0:42:43.560 if we learned anything on this week was like we 0:42:43.640 --> 0:42:45.759 have no clue how it's going to shake out. 0:42:46.840 --> 0:42:51.320 Yeah. I do think he does seem he seems hungrier 0:42:51.480 --> 0:42:57.280 for a major than perhaps he's been at different times 0:42:57.280 --> 0:42:59.760 in the past nine years. And I think that that's 0:43:00.440 --> 0:43:04.440 it doesn't mean you're the win, but it's it's meaningful, 0:43:04.520 --> 0:43:05.239 it's important. 0:43:06.360 --> 0:43:09.359 The other event that happened right in this period that 0:43:09.400 --> 0:43:15.440 we haven't talked about is the Brooks PGA win which passed. 0:43:15.840 --> 0:43:18.640 You know, he doesn't you know Brooks has more majors 0:43:18.680 --> 0:43:22.560 than him too. I think there's also probably that has 0:43:22.600 --> 0:43:26.239 to be a factor in here. Like I imagine he 0:43:26.400 --> 0:43:32.520 probably like five years ago, never imagined a peer passing 0:43:32.560 --> 0:43:39.120 him in major championships other than I do. 0:43:39.680 --> 0:43:41.960 Like I we don't we never get this in golf, 0:43:42.080 --> 0:43:43.640 or we get it. We do get it, we get 0:43:43.640 --> 0:43:48.240 it very rarely, but two sort of generational major winners 0:43:48.680 --> 0:43:50.960 kind of going at it for a for a window. 0:43:51.280 --> 0:43:54.600 If we got that, we if we got that with 0:43:54.600 --> 0:43:57.080 Brooks and Rory for the next five years, if that 0:43:57.200 --> 0:43:59.400 was like their window to kind of trade a couple 0:43:59.360 --> 0:44:02.280 of majors back and forth, that would be awesome. 0:44:03.280 --> 0:44:07.080 There's gonna be somebody new, you know, it's gonna pop 0:44:07.120 --> 0:44:08.440 in there for sure. 0:44:08.480 --> 0:44:12.879 But I mean their consistency, Like just look at their 0:44:12.920 --> 0:44:16.960 consistency in majors, Like how often both of those guys have. 0:44:17.120 --> 0:44:20.480 I mean Rory's like I think he's like top ten 0:44:20.520 --> 0:44:23.440 and nineteen of his last thirty three or something like that, 0:44:23.520 --> 0:44:27.960 thirty four Brooks similar numbers, maybe even better than that. 0:44:28.120 --> 0:44:31.319 I mean, they're just they're always there. There, there will 0:44:31.360 --> 0:44:36.359 always be new guys. But I just think it would 0:44:36.360 --> 0:44:39.480 be awesome to see to see those those two guys 0:44:39.520 --> 0:44:42.359 go back and forth. We give it another guy that's 0:44:42.360 --> 0:44:45.560 probably gonna win. Yes, several majors we got. 0:44:46.200 --> 0:44:48.560 I was about to go there too, and I think 0:44:48.719 --> 0:44:51.879 we got the same name here, so I've guessed it's 0:44:51.920 --> 0:44:53.360 another Longhorn. 0:44:53.760 --> 0:44:59.480 It is, yes, And I don't know that anybody has 0:44:59.640 --> 0:45:04.719 ever like this. This to me would be one of 0:45:04.760 --> 0:45:09.320 the great you don't want to say wasted seasons because 0:45:09.640 --> 0:45:10.040 he won the. 0:45:10.040 --> 0:45:13.040 Play exactly what mine. This is exactly what mine is. 0:45:13.160 --> 0:45:15.680 Yes, he won the players, he won Phoenix. It's not 0:45:15.719 --> 0:45:19.400 a waste. He's been extraordinary this year. He's he's he 0:45:19.440 --> 0:45:21.719 could win all the playoff events. He could go five 0:45:21.760 --> 0:45:23.960 and oh at the Ryder Cup. I don't know. But 0:45:24.040 --> 0:45:28.040 if you don't hammer out a major in a year 0:45:28.080 --> 0:45:32.520 when you're hitting it at a level, that's like just 0:45:33.400 --> 0:45:36.359 you're looking to the side and it's only Tiger. I mean, 0:45:37.239 --> 0:45:41.600 he just he has I feel like he has to capitalize. 0:45:41.640 --> 0:45:43.560 He doesn't have to, but it would be a it 0:45:43.600 --> 0:45:45.839 would be a disappointment, I think when he looks back 0:45:45.920 --> 0:45:48.920 to not capitalize on one of the great Tee de 0:45:49.000 --> 0:45:50.760 Green seasons of the last twenty years. 0:45:51.680 --> 0:45:55.759 My title for this one is Scottie and expectations, And 0:45:55.840 --> 0:45:59.760 I think the toughest thing to fight in golf is expectations. 0:46:00.040 --> 0:46:04.600 And I can't, I cannot this. This is going I 0:46:04.640 --> 0:46:06.680 think this is going to be one of the toughest 0:46:06.719 --> 0:46:11.280 tournaments mentally for him to play in his entire career. 0:46:11.840 --> 0:46:15.600 Because of what you just laid out, he is having 0:46:15.800 --> 0:46:20.520 statistically one of the greatest seasons we've ever seen in 0:46:20.560 --> 0:46:25.600 the modern era. And if that isn't punctuated with a major, 0:46:27.120 --> 0:46:32.560 I mean, it's like it's honestly like Otani and Mike 0:46:32.600 --> 0:46:38.400 Trout just toiling away in Anaheim where they can't field 0:46:38.800 --> 0:46:42.680 a winning team, and it's like, Mike Trout is one 0:46:42.680 --> 0:46:47.719 of the greatest baseball players of his generation and he's 0:46:47.760 --> 0:46:51.560 never played a meaningful game, you know, and like it's 0:46:52.000 --> 0:46:56.680 it goes Categorically, I don't think it's that level because 0:46:56.719 --> 0:47:01.719 this is just one year, but like, this is one 0:47:01.760 --> 0:47:07.360 of the greatest displays of consistency. It's everything everything you 0:47:07.440 --> 0:47:11.600 want out of a superstar athlete performance in a year 0:47:11.719 --> 0:47:14.920 where he's just been relevant every week, He's teed it 0:47:15.000 --> 0:47:21.800 up effectively, and if it doesn't include a major, it's 0:47:21.840 --> 0:47:27.759 it's mind boggling, especially considering the chances he's had, you know, 0:47:28.200 --> 0:47:32.239 at the last two. Really, yeah, it is, And I 0:47:32.280 --> 0:47:34.719 think it doesn't. 0:47:35.440 --> 0:47:37.960 It's not the end of the world. But I I 0:47:38.000 --> 0:47:40.320 think it's easy when you're in the middle of something 0:47:40.320 --> 0:47:43.000 to say, oh, this thing that's happening is going to 0:47:43.080 --> 0:47:45.960 last for a long time. And the reality is that 0:47:46.040 --> 0:47:47.960 it's not like you don't. 0:47:47.880 --> 0:47:48.960 A long off season. 0:47:49.040 --> 0:47:52.360 Yeah you don't get it's not like you get better 0:47:52.400 --> 0:47:56.640 from here or nobody ever has right like it. I again, 0:47:56.719 --> 0:47:59.239 like I the reason I talk about this a lot, 0:47:59.320 --> 0:48:02.640 whether it's on my podcast or Twitter or whatever, and 0:48:02.680 --> 0:48:05.040 people are like, we get it, and I'm like, I don't. 0:48:05.160 --> 0:48:09.080 I don't know if you do, because people are so 0:48:09.960 --> 0:48:17.320 win and loss influenced in golf that I think sometimes 0:48:17.360 --> 0:48:19.880 when you don't win, they can the people just can't 0:48:19.880 --> 0:48:25.040 see past not winning. And it's like, no, this is 0:48:25.120 --> 0:48:28.080 like Tiger in two thousand and eight or Tiger in 0:48:28.600 --> 0:48:33.000 six or whatever whatever Tiger year you want to pick, 0:48:33.120 --> 0:48:35.680 and there's like no other name to put next to it, 0:48:35.960 --> 0:48:40.160 like it's it's only that. And so I think you 0:48:40.360 --> 0:48:42.879 just you don't get that window forever you might get 0:48:42.920 --> 0:48:44.720 it for two years. You might get it for five 0:48:45.040 --> 0:48:47.799 I don't know, but it doesn't last forever. And if 0:48:47.840 --> 0:48:50.719 we've if we've learned. You talk about this a lot 0:48:50.760 --> 0:48:54.399 with DJ and Rory, Like, guys don't win majors. It's 0:48:54.480 --> 0:48:57.759 very rare that guys win majors for a long time, right, 0:48:57.800 --> 0:49:01.160 It's usually it's usually compressed. Look at Arnold Palmer, look 0:49:01.160 --> 0:49:04.680 at Ben Hogan, look at yeah, all these guys they 0:49:04.719 --> 0:49:07.799 win majors in a three four, five year period. And 0:49:07.880 --> 0:49:10.560 if you don't do it, and some of it's luck 0:49:10.960 --> 0:49:14.880 and some of it is just a couples whatever, whatever 0:49:14.920 --> 0:49:18.080 it is, that time you never get that back. You know, 0:49:18.120 --> 0:49:21.640 Scotty Scheffer changes and he's Jordan's speeth in five years 0:49:21.640 --> 0:49:24.040 and he doesn't get back what he had. And so 0:49:24.160 --> 0:49:27.200 I just I think this is a it's a really 0:49:27.280 --> 0:49:29.280 important major for Scotty Scheffer's career. 0:49:29.840 --> 0:49:32.719 Yeah, yeah, I think like one of the just to 0:49:33.040 --> 0:49:36.080 you know, add one thing here is like we when 0:49:36.080 --> 0:49:41.160 the schedule changed and it went to this extremely condensed 0:49:41.320 --> 0:49:45.480 major season. And I say extremely condensed, they cut a 0:49:45.520 --> 0:49:49.560 month out. One of the things that you you looked 0:49:49.560 --> 0:49:52.960 at it and you saw is like, wow, somebody could 0:49:53.200 --> 0:49:56.560 really get hot and go on a run and knock 0:49:56.640 --> 0:49:59.879 these out, Like you know this, this is an advantage 0:50:00.080 --> 0:50:04.200 to a hot hand. And what's crazy, especially with the 0:50:04.520 --> 0:50:07.279 with the other elevated events in here, is that like 0:50:07.360 --> 0:50:10.680 Shuffler's had the hot hand. And like it's hard to 0:50:10.719 --> 0:50:12.799 say this because he won the players and he won 0:50:13.120 --> 0:50:16.359 one waste management, but it doesn't feel like he's really 0:50:16.400 --> 0:50:19.319 capitalized on the hot hand. Yeah, and this, you know, 0:50:19.480 --> 0:50:23.680 it's you know, wins are I like, I really really 0:50:23.719 --> 0:50:28.719 really really admire. I think consistency is the most underrated 0:50:29.480 --> 0:50:31.880 stat Like I think there's there there needs to be 0:50:31.960 --> 0:50:35.880 some form of consistency. It's what every great golfer is 0:50:35.920 --> 0:50:39.160 trying to achieve when they go through changes, is like 0:50:39.480 --> 0:50:43.160 how do I become more consistently great? Right, That's the 0:50:43.239 --> 0:50:45.799 thing that you chase with golf. Every golfer at every 0:50:45.880 --> 0:50:48.319 level is chasing it. Every golfer, Like I can't tell 0:50:48.320 --> 0:50:50.640 you how many times somebody's like I shot my best 0:50:50.680 --> 0:50:53.040 round and then the next round I shot like ninety five. 0:50:53.520 --> 0:50:56.040 You know, it's like that's you know what what everybody's 0:50:56.120 --> 0:50:59.160 chasing is, like how do I become more consistent? And 0:50:59.320 --> 0:51:04.960 like the consistencies there, but like to have so you know, 0:51:05.480 --> 0:51:09.200 the players feels forever ago and to have so few 0:51:09.400 --> 0:51:13.480 big moments, to have so no wins really in the 0:51:13.480 --> 0:51:15.400 meat of the season is crazy. 0:51:16.560 --> 0:51:19.400 Don't you think it's weird in golf that inconsistency is 0:51:19.440 --> 0:51:25.960 almost disproportionately rewarded compared to other sports. It's absolutely insane. 0:51:26.160 --> 0:51:28.560 And I don't know what the what the solution is 0:51:28.600 --> 0:51:33.719 because winning is so incredibly hard. Yeah, yeah, I mean 0:51:34.200 --> 0:51:40.879 it's it's it's Sandy Lyles's career, right, He's got four 0:51:40.960 --> 0:51:43.160 top tens at majors but two major wins. 0:51:43.960 --> 0:51:46.600 Well, and this is not a shot. I am friends 0:51:46.640 --> 0:51:50.600 with ZB. This is not a shot at ZB. It's 0:51:50.640 --> 0:51:54.840 more of a comment about the system. ZB got inside 0:51:54.880 --> 0:51:57.040 the top one hundred in the world rankings because of 0:51:57.080 --> 0:52:01.319 his performance of travelers stacked Field. Yeah Field, you know, 0:52:01.480 --> 0:52:05.759 best best finish of his career. But like he went 0:52:05.800 --> 0:52:08.520 from way down to the top one hundred, and it 0:52:08.560 --> 0:52:10.800 is all based off of you know, one week. 0:52:10.920 --> 0:52:14.279 Right, yeah, And I mean you look at so take 0:52:14.600 --> 0:52:17.640 take Sandy Lyle and Sergio Garcia or Adam Scott. Take 0:52:17.640 --> 0:52:21.000 Adam Scott and Sandy Lyle. You would never you would No, 0:52:21.239 --> 0:52:25.480 no rational person in golf would ever say Sandy Lesle 0:52:25.560 --> 0:52:28.640 was a better golfer than Adam Scott, right and. 0:52:28.640 --> 0:52:32.359 Yet and yeah, after saying yeah, I. 0:52:32.320 --> 0:52:35.480 Don't I picked a bad There's other people that you 0:52:35.480 --> 0:52:40.960 could pick, and yet Sandy Isle has more major wins 0:52:41.160 --> 0:52:44.480 than Adam Scott. It's just like, I don't think the 0:52:44.560 --> 0:52:50.560 answer is discounting major wins because they matter a ton. 0:52:51.400 --> 0:52:54.040 I think the answer is like, and I don't know 0:52:54.080 --> 0:52:56.840 how to promote it more. We've seen this in baseball, 0:52:56.840 --> 0:52:59.279 the evolution of the way people have viewed statistics, right 0:52:59.320 --> 0:53:04.000 where now a pitcher a pitcher's wins don't It doesn't 0:53:04.040 --> 0:53:05.919 mean as much as it did one hundred years ago, 0:53:05.960 --> 0:53:10.680 and it probably shouldn't because you're trying to measure performance 0:53:10.840 --> 0:53:12.920 and not or you're trying to measure process and not 0:53:12.960 --> 0:53:16.799 necessarily outcome. And I think that there needs to be 0:53:16.880 --> 0:53:23.480 some better literacy around, like fan interaction with golf success 0:53:23.600 --> 0:53:27.839 or statistics or whatever. And I just don't know when 0:53:27.920 --> 0:53:31.320 that's going to come about, because it's just so wins 0:53:31.320 --> 0:53:34.839 and losses dependent right now that I don't know. I 0:53:34.880 --> 0:53:38.200 just wish, I wish there was more literacy around that Yeah, 0:53:38.239 --> 0:53:41.399 I don't know what it is, but there is something there. It's, uh, 0:53:42.080 --> 0:53:42.600 what do you have? 0:53:42.640 --> 0:53:43.560 One left? 0:53:44.160 --> 0:53:46.960 One left? We actually kind of talked about this at 0:53:47.000 --> 0:53:50.160 the beginning with Padrig but I think there's real Ryder 0:53:50.160 --> 0:53:55.239 Cup implications at this at this Open championship. And is 0:53:55.239 --> 0:53:57.759 it the biggest story of the week. No, but it's 0:53:57.840 --> 0:54:01.879 kind of the last chance for a it's it's it's 0:54:01.920 --> 0:54:05.120 the opportunity. Like if Taylor Goog finishes in the top five, 0:54:05.520 --> 0:54:09.239 I think he becomes a real Ryder Cup possibility, And 0:54:09.280 --> 0:54:12.040 if he doesn't, then I don't think he is. And 0:54:12.080 --> 0:54:14.080 I don't we know he's we know he's ready for 0:54:14.200 --> 0:54:17.440 right well, I mean he's played in several so he 0:54:16.719 --> 0:54:22.480 he will be he will be prepared. But I think 0:54:22.640 --> 0:54:25.759 especially I was reading the Data Golf newsletter this week 0:54:25.760 --> 0:54:27.479 and it was really good because he was talking about 0:54:27.480 --> 0:54:30.440 how there's clarity on the European side other than that 0:54:30.480 --> 0:54:34.320 bottom four that we talked about, but there's actually increasingly 0:54:34.440 --> 0:54:38.320 less clarity on the American side. The closer the closer 0:54:38.360 --> 0:54:41.520 we get, and so it's a big week for. 0:54:43.080 --> 0:54:48.000 Your What if DJ finished the second I think I 0:54:48.040 --> 0:54:49.440 think he would. 0:54:49.960 --> 0:54:51.919 I think that would put him pretty close to being 0:54:51.960 --> 0:54:52.440 on the team. 0:54:52.960 --> 0:54:55.560 I do like a top five from DJ, Yeah, you do. 0:54:55.760 --> 0:54:57.560 I think that, And I think that would be fair 0:54:57.840 --> 0:55:01.040 because I think he went five and hour whistling straights, 0:55:02.360 --> 0:55:06.560 you like, well liked, Yeah, And it's it's like, Okay, 0:55:06.680 --> 0:55:08.279 at the end of the day, you're trying to beat 0:55:08.320 --> 0:55:10.880 Europe for the first time in thirty years in Europe. 0:55:11.760 --> 0:55:16.000 Do you want to have taken Denny McCarthy over there 0:55:16.000 --> 0:55:17.799 and gone down? Or do you want to take DJ 0:55:17.880 --> 0:55:20.279 over there and have gone down? You know, I think 0:55:20.320 --> 0:55:23.120 I think that's a pretty easy answer at the end 0:55:23.120 --> 0:55:24.719 of the day. But I just think there's a lot 0:55:24.880 --> 0:55:27.399 like there's some Sam Burns implications Max Holme, but there's 0:55:27.400 --> 0:55:30.360 a lot of guys that are kinda you don't really 0:55:30.400 --> 0:55:32.080 know what to make of them right now. 0:55:32.719 --> 0:55:36.680 What in your mind, what has to happen for JT 0:55:36.960 --> 0:55:40.080 not to get picked or is he a lock, like. 0:55:40.120 --> 0:55:42.040 He has to have surgery or something. 0:55:42.480 --> 0:55:44.759 Right, he's a lock no matter what. He could miss 0:55:44.760 --> 0:55:46.799 the cut in every event the rest of the year. 0:55:46.920 --> 0:55:50.799 Yeah, it doesn't matter. It would be I think I 0:55:50.800 --> 0:55:53.640 tweeted this a couple of weeks Ago'd be like not 0:55:53.719 --> 0:55:59.959 taking Poulter. If he's upright, he does he rubs those guys. 0:56:01.280 --> 0:56:02.160 I'll never forget. 0:56:02.600 --> 0:56:07.880 I was just walking walking from one hole to another hole, 0:56:08.000 --> 0:56:10.520 and I ran into some of the euro team at 0:56:10.600 --> 0:56:13.920 Whistling Straits and one of them was like, did you 0:56:13.960 --> 0:56:17.080 see what JT did? And I was like, yeah, I did. 0:56:17.480 --> 0:56:21.200 He was like, the guy was very mad of this. 0:56:21.760 --> 0:56:24.280 He was, I mean, this was hours after it happened. 0:56:24.360 --> 0:56:28.480 Yeah. Oh. The the way that they talk about him 0:56:28.600 --> 0:56:32.960 is like it is, it's it's tough, like there's some 0:56:33.160 --> 0:56:36.480 real animosity, not not like as a person, but some 0:56:36.560 --> 0:56:42.040 real like competitive animosity that for that week. I think 0:56:42.160 --> 0:56:45.560 I think tron At at Whistling Straits called him he's 0:56:45.600 --> 0:56:52.200 like a duke point guard, which is great, so perfect, 0:56:52.360 --> 0:56:55.319 it's so perfect. But to answer your question, yes, I 0:56:55.320 --> 0:56:58.279 think JT, if he's able to swing a golf club 0:56:58.360 --> 0:57:00.120 is going to be on the team. I don't I 0:57:00.160 --> 0:57:02.440 don't know if you. I think whether I agree with 0:57:02.480 --> 0:57:04.600 that or not, it's kind of irrelevant. I think the 0:57:04.719 --> 0:57:07.640 names that you have to watch in terms of like 0:57:07.760 --> 0:57:12.120 that are agents of chaos for the American team. Kurt 0:57:12.200 --> 0:57:15.839 Kitty Yama, right, is he playing well? He hasn't been 0:57:15.880 --> 0:57:18.480 playing well, he's playing bad. But if he starts playing 0:57:18.520 --> 0:57:22.200 well again, right, Harris English has been really good lately. Yeah, 0:57:22.240 --> 0:57:22.640 But then a. 0:57:22.640 --> 0:57:25.760 Guy like Tony Tony fen Now who's way out that 0:57:25.960 --> 0:57:28.280 like if he if he has a great week, yeah, 0:57:28.480 --> 0:57:30.480 or a great couple of weeks, like you know, these 0:57:30.520 --> 0:57:32.800 are the guys that then all of a sudden throw 0:57:32.840 --> 0:57:35.160 in Jeopardy like then you. I mean like I don't. 0:57:35.280 --> 0:57:37.280 I can't see a world that Ricky's not on the team, 0:57:37.400 --> 0:57:38.520 no point no. 0:57:40.640 --> 0:57:45.320 But I think there's some real like, Okay, in a vacuum, 0:57:45.840 --> 0:57:47.920 do you do you if you take the names out 0:57:47.960 --> 0:57:51.360 of it, are you taking Russell Henley or or or 0:57:51.400 --> 0:57:54.240 Max Homa. I think you would take Russell Henley. But 0:57:54.360 --> 0:57:56.200 you can't take the names out of it. You can't 0:57:56.200 --> 0:57:59.760 erase the fact that Max one whatever four matches at 0:58:00.120 --> 0:58:03.000 the President's Cup last year. You can't. There's just so 0:58:03.080 --> 0:58:05.520 many different factors that go into it. And I think 0:58:06.680 --> 0:58:10.040 I think there's some real like Ryder Cup implications at 0:58:10.040 --> 0:58:14.200 this open for five or eight guys on the American side. 0:58:15.040 --> 0:58:17.560 I think, like you look at the top nine points, 0:58:17.920 --> 0:58:20.120 there's no way if you're in the top nine points 0:58:20.200 --> 0:58:24.800 you get bypassed, yep, and then from there it's it's 0:58:25.200 --> 0:58:27.960 your JT's doesn't seem like it's going to be in 0:58:27.960 --> 0:58:32.400 that top nine and Ricky's not gonna is. Ricky could 0:58:32.440 --> 0:58:34.680 get all the way up there, but like, you want 0:58:34.760 --> 0:58:38.880 one of those two guys because they are as are 0:58:39.000 --> 0:58:42.000 going to be on the team. Effectively, you really want 0:58:42.040 --> 0:58:44.240 those two guys to get into the top nine. 0:58:44.360 --> 0:58:48.480 Yeah. So I think just from a political standpoint, as 0:58:48.520 --> 0:58:52.440 the captain, you wouldn't You're right, you wouldn't stray outside 0:58:52.480 --> 0:58:55.480 of the top nine. I think it's easy for us 0:58:55.520 --> 0:58:58.480 to look at stroke skinned or world ranking or whatever, 0:58:58.520 --> 0:59:03.640 but politically you wouldn't. You there has there's more volatility 0:59:03.640 --> 0:59:05.560 this year, as I Johnson was talking about this, because 0:59:05.600 --> 0:59:08.360 the elevated events offer so much money, right, and so 0:59:08.400 --> 0:59:11.440 there's more there's more noise because that's what they go on, 0:59:11.560 --> 0:59:15.800 is how much money you've earned that translates into points. 0:59:16.080 --> 0:59:19.480 I don't know what the FedEx uh exchange there is, 0:59:19.560 --> 0:59:23.720 but uh, you're not gonna go out of the top nine. 0:59:23.760 --> 0:59:25.200 So if you have guys that are outside of it, 0:59:25.280 --> 0:59:27.960 like JT and Ricky, then you really only have one 0:59:28.360 --> 0:59:29.480 spot that you're trying to. 0:59:29.440 --> 0:59:33.920 Pick, right, Yeah, basically, I mean that's the thing right 0:59:34.600 --> 0:59:37.600 where it gets tricky, right, I just think the discourse. 0:59:38.640 --> 0:59:40.880 Let's just say Keegan doesn't play well, but he just 0:59:41.040 --> 0:59:42.720 only falls just to nine. 0:59:42.880 --> 0:59:43.400 Yeah right. 0:59:44.160 --> 0:59:47.840 You imagine the discourse around like Keegan Bradley not getting picked, 0:59:48.880 --> 0:59:51.320 you know, when he was ninth in points and somebody 0:59:51.520 --> 0:59:55.000 who's like in DJ getting picked or Taylor Groose getting picked. 0:59:55.080 --> 0:59:58.360 Well, that's what I mean. That is to spot it's 0:59:58.400 --> 1:00:01.360 political suicide. Is the cow right like you You're not 1:00:01.480 --> 1:00:03.040 you wouldn't do that. And so. 1:00:04.520 --> 1:00:08.800 Although ZJ doesn't seem to me like a risk taker. 1:00:10.480 --> 1:00:14.800 Really just I might be I might be miscasting him, 1:00:14.800 --> 1:00:17.880 but he just doesn't seem to be like it doesn't 1:00:17.920 --> 1:00:21.479 feel like me like he's going to be somebody that's 1:00:21.520 --> 1:00:24.800 trying to you know, the big miss step out the 1:00:24.800 --> 1:00:28.800 big mites, don't scream, you know, take take risks and 1:00:29.600 --> 1:00:32.480 put yourself out there. Uh yeah. So that that's my 1:00:32.600 --> 1:00:35.560 last one is just on both sides. I mean we 1:00:36.200 --> 1:00:38.640 were joking about it. If Potter Carrington finishes in the 1:00:38.680 --> 1:00:42.520 top ten, I think you kind of playing your way 1:00:42.520 --> 1:00:45.560 onto the Ryder Cup team. I mean legitate, like take 1:00:45.680 --> 1:00:47.840 take his name, take his age out of it. You're 1:00:47.880 --> 1:00:51.880 just I don't know. I think I think that's. 1:00:52.400 --> 1:00:54.160 I can't do it because he didn't play in this 1:00:54.560 --> 1:00:59.560 week senior major players. So, uh, Ludwig's gonna be on 1:00:59.600 --> 1:01:03.120 the team, right, I don't think. So he's got to 1:01:03.160 --> 1:01:06.400 do something. But I like, get he's talent. 1:01:06.480 --> 1:01:09.760 I get he's talented, but like, like, what has he done? 1:01:10.960 --> 1:01:15.840 Listen. I I'm all aboard the Ludwig hype train. But like, 1:01:16.040 --> 1:01:18.280 at the same time, there needs to be a high 1:01:18.320 --> 1:01:21.840 finish to glom onto. Here has to be one. He's 1:01:21.840 --> 1:01:22.800 not in the Open, is he. 1:01:24.440 --> 1:01:27.040 I don't think so, yeah, And I like, okay, let 1:01:27.120 --> 1:01:30.480 me just like run down the finishes. T for it. 1:01:30.560 --> 1:01:32.960 John Deere? Is that is that where you're gonna hang on? 1:01:33.280 --> 1:01:35.160 I mean, STEP's gonna get on the team from his 1:01:35.280 --> 1:01:36.920 John Deere performance. 1:01:38.040 --> 1:01:40.680 Yeah, but there's a bout Sepstraca is a top thirty 1:01:40.720 --> 1:01:44.360 player in the world. You know, Ludvig's three oh three. 1:01:44.600 --> 1:01:48.120 I mean, so Rocket Mortgage T forty, Travelers T twenty four, 1:01:49.160 --> 1:01:53.680 RBC Canadian Open T twenty five, Valspar T sixty one, 1:01:54.560 --> 1:01:58.720 Arnold Palmer T twenty four, Hero Dubai Classic T seventy. 1:01:58.760 --> 1:02:03.800 Those are his professional wins or professional starts. He didn't 1:02:03.800 --> 1:02:08.280 win NCAA's. He won a lot of like college tournaments. 1:02:08.280 --> 1:02:09.040 But I just. 1:02:10.600 --> 1:02:14.120 Unless he does something I don't, you gotta do it 1:02:14.160 --> 1:02:16.200 at the highest level and then you're gonna throw him 1:02:16.240 --> 1:02:20.640 in the Ryder Cup. I get he's super talented. I'm 1:02:20.720 --> 1:02:26.920 all for injecting youth, but like Victor Hobland when he 1:02:27.000 --> 1:02:30.680 turned pro, had a better record, and I don't think 1:02:30.680 --> 1:02:33.080 he would be considered for the Ryder Cup. I was 1:02:33.080 --> 1:02:34.120 that a Ryder Cup year? 1:02:34.520 --> 1:02:34.600 That? 1:02:35.080 --> 1:02:39.000 Because No, wasn't there Matt Wolf. That wasn't a Ryder 1:02:39.040 --> 1:02:39.800 Cup here right, No. 1:02:39.800 --> 1:02:42.440 It was twenty nine. They turned pro after Pebble in 1:02:42.480 --> 1:02:46.000 twenty nineteen at the Travelers and the Ryder Cup year 1:02:46.320 --> 1:02:49.920 was twenty well it would have been twenty twenty. It 1:02:49.960 --> 1:02:51.280 ended up being twenty twenty one. 1:02:51.920 --> 1:02:56.480 So like with Hobland, for example, like I think the 1:02:56.520 --> 1:03:01.400 finishes were were pretty we're better than that. And if 1:03:01.400 --> 1:03:03.920 it was like he didn't even get his card like 1:03:04.520 --> 1:03:08.880 ludvig Aberg at this point, wouldn't under the old before 1:03:08.960 --> 1:03:12.480 PGA tour you changed, he wouldn't be getting his card. 1:03:12.640 --> 1:03:15.120 He'd be getting close to seven starts at this point 1:03:15.520 --> 1:03:17.680 and you'd be like, Okay, he's going to the corn 1:03:17.720 --> 1:03:20.240 Ferry Tour next year. Yeah, And I don't think you 1:03:20.240 --> 1:03:23.400 could put a player like that on the team unless no, 1:03:23.720 --> 1:03:27.000 he could win, he could win Windham and then win 1:03:27.400 --> 1:03:30.200 you know, a playoff event and like if he woulds 1:03:30.240 --> 1:03:34.160 wind him like that's a real conversation then right, Yeah, 1:03:34.200 --> 1:03:36.920 I think I don't think he's qualified for the playoffs. Like, 1:03:37.000 --> 1:03:38.760 I just don't think. I don't see how you could 1:03:38.760 --> 1:03:39.600 put him on the team. 1:03:39.840 --> 1:03:41.840 I think the counter is what we talked about earlier. 1:03:41.840 --> 1:03:45.520 There's there's just no nothing going on at the bottom. 1:03:45.600 --> 1:03:47.520 And I think the other things, like you look at 1:03:47.560 --> 1:03:51.520 some of those finishes he has. He's shooting like it's 1:03:51.720 --> 1:03:57.840 very inconsistent, which is not It can work in your 1:03:57.880 --> 1:04:00.439 favor at a Ryder Cup where you only play match 1:04:00.520 --> 1:04:04.000 or two matches or whatever, and so if you have 1:04:04.120 --> 1:04:07.240 a flash and you're I mean, they're not gonna pick 1:04:07.280 --> 1:04:09.520 Luvig and play in like four matches, right, Like they 1:04:09.520 --> 1:04:13.560 would play him in a couple and see if they 1:04:13.560 --> 1:04:15.120 can get I think he's gonna be on the team. 1:04:15.160 --> 1:04:17.080 I think they're gonna see if they can get something 1:04:17.160 --> 1:04:19.880 out of him. When you put him in on that 1:04:20.040 --> 1:04:24.400 stage and your top eight's kind of taken care of 1:04:25.200 --> 1:04:29.520 and you're up, like your ceiling with him is just 1:04:29.560 --> 1:04:32.240 so much higher than it is with the Aaron Ryes 1:04:32.280 --> 1:04:36.000 and Alex Norns of the world that I think it. 1:04:36.560 --> 1:04:39.160 I think you look at that ceiling and and and 1:04:39.240 --> 1:04:43.040 pick that over everybody else having a higher four so 1:04:43.120 --> 1:04:43.640 much so. 1:04:43.960 --> 1:04:46.520 Aaron Ryce Slander, Yeah, he's just like the guy that 1:04:46.600 --> 1:04:50.600 I get. He's stuck in your head. Hey, all right, 1:04:50.680 --> 1:04:53.720 my fifth one. You know we talked Ryder cup now 1:04:54.560 --> 1:04:57.160 it's uh, we've we've mentioned him. Ricky Fowler. 1:04:57.880 --> 1:05:00.440 We do this all the time with Tiger and Phil 1:05:01.600 --> 1:05:03.760 and we were like, is this his best. 1:05:03.520 --> 1:05:05.840 Chance for a major championship? 1:05:06.920 --> 1:05:07.240 Left? 1:05:07.600 --> 1:05:12.640 Right is Rickyes? Is this Ricky's best chance for a 1:05:12.720 --> 1:05:18.800 major ever? He's playing arguably like as good of golf 1:05:18.840 --> 1:05:21.560 as he's played in the last seven he not arguably 1:05:21.600 --> 1:05:23.480 he's playing the best golf he's played in the last 1:05:23.520 --> 1:05:28.160 seven years of his entire career. He's not super long. 1:05:29.400 --> 1:05:32.800 So I think that opened while he contended at lac 1:05:33.040 --> 1:05:37.720 that was an atypical US Open course I think like 1:05:37.800 --> 1:05:40.320 the US Open and the PGA doesn't really fit his 1:05:40.400 --> 1:05:43.080 game great at this point in his career and with 1:05:43.240 --> 1:05:47.480 where the game's gone, and that leaves the Masters and this, 1:05:47.800 --> 1:05:51.000 and I think like the Open is probably best suited 1:05:51.040 --> 1:05:53.840 for his game as a course that he almost won at. 1:05:54.720 --> 1:05:59.600 And I just like, do is there another level of 1:05:59.680 --> 1:06:02.040 Ricky follower than what we've seen this year? Is he 1:06:02.080 --> 1:06:03.280 going to get better next year? 1:06:04.720 --> 1:06:04.800 Is? 1:06:04.880 --> 1:06:07.080 I guess the bet is like, is he a top 1:06:07.120 --> 1:06:11.960 ten player in the world or is this year kind 1:06:12.000 --> 1:06:16.919 of a one year thing? And does he settle into 1:06:16.960 --> 1:06:18.200 being a top thirty player? 1:06:18.480 --> 1:06:21.080 Yeah? That's that's interesting because the one area of his 1:06:21.160 --> 1:06:24.480 game that hasn't come all the way back. I think, 1:06:24.480 --> 1:06:28.160 if you look statistically is his is his driver. And 1:06:29.800 --> 1:06:34.080 as guys get older, they typically don't become better and 1:06:34.160 --> 1:06:39.280 better drivers, right, And so I don't know that he's 1:06:39.280 --> 1:06:43.400 going to be a top ten guy with the consistency 1:06:43.440 --> 1:06:46.920 that he was at age twenty four, twenty five, twenty six, 1:06:47.080 --> 1:06:49.800 But I so, yeah, I think to answer your question, 1:06:49.800 --> 1:06:51.840 I think he's more of a top twenty five type 1:06:51.840 --> 1:06:56.400 guy than I'm like a top ten guy. But that 1:06:56.480 --> 1:06:59.160 plays into what like, are you asking is this his 1:06:59.200 --> 1:07:02.720 best chance ever going into like like the week, like 1:07:02.800 --> 1:07:03.720 going into the event. 1:07:04.760 --> 1:07:07.160 Yeah, yeah, I mean. 1:07:07.080 --> 1:07:09.640 It depends on how you feel about the innocence and 1:07:09.720 --> 1:07:13.240 experience thing, right, because I think there's a there's a 1:07:13.320 --> 1:07:16.880 side of Fower, that there's a facet of Ricky Fowler 1:07:16.960 --> 1:07:20.760 that did not exist eight years ago. Like he has 1:07:20.840 --> 1:07:24.600 some real I think maturity and depth that he didn't 1:07:24.640 --> 1:07:27.479 have before that most people don't have when they're twenty five. 1:07:28.040 --> 1:07:30.040 But I don't know if that works for him or 1:07:30.080 --> 1:07:33.440 against him in this instance, you know, m h. 1:07:33.960 --> 1:07:36.840 I just think that I don't know if he'll be 1:07:37.840 --> 1:07:40.680 he I think he's a first page favorite. I think 1:07:40.720 --> 1:07:44.640 if you rattled off your ten favorites, he's in the 1:07:44.680 --> 1:07:45.440 top ten. 1:07:46.120 --> 1:07:53.040 Ahead of Harrington or behind him. 1:07:53.320 --> 1:07:57.440 This is an episode about Padrick Harrington and the Open Championship, 1:07:57.480 --> 1:08:02.600 but first and foremost Padrick Harrington. I like, honestly, if 1:08:02.640 --> 1:08:04.960 you go down the favorite site, I think Scotti is 1:08:05.080 --> 1:08:09.440 number one, right, I think, uh then I would just 1:08:09.560 --> 1:08:13.800 I would probably go with the next three or Rory 1:08:13.840 --> 1:08:17.719 Brooks in in ram in some order, yep, some form 1:08:17.760 --> 1:08:22.360 of fashion at that point. At that point, like you 1:08:22.400 --> 1:08:27.160 get into the cam Smith you get in, like I 1:08:27.200 --> 1:08:30.839 think at that point, you're in like the Ricky zone, 1:08:31.040 --> 1:08:34.320 and I don't and I honestly don't think will ever 1:08:35.439 --> 1:08:39.720 be at another major where that that is where we're 1:08:39.840 --> 1:08:44.080 placing Ricky Fowler. In terms of of odds, I don't 1:08:44.120 --> 1:08:46.960 know what is like actual odds are, but they have 1:08:47.080 --> 1:08:48.840 to be right around there. 1:08:49.160 --> 1:08:51.439 Who do you think Ricky is more? Who do who 1:08:51.439 --> 1:08:53.519 of these three players do you think is most likely 1:08:53.560 --> 1:08:57.400 to win the Open? Ricky, Colin more Kala, and Victor Hoblin. 1:08:58.040 --> 1:09:00.519 I think, like the only one that I think, like 1:09:00.680 --> 1:09:05.920 Victor and Ricky right now would be the two that 1:09:06.160 --> 1:09:09.760 I would put over Morikawa. But like I think, I mean, 1:09:09.800 --> 1:09:12.240 I think that's a great question, right, And that's like 1:09:12.320 --> 1:09:18.080 your second tier of guys. Yeah, so I think he's 1:09:18.120 --> 1:09:21.519 like squarely, he's not, like he's not your top four, 1:09:21.720 --> 1:09:26.439 which I think are pretty undisputable, but he's the next 1:09:26.479 --> 1:09:29.880 group and I don't know if he'll ever get there 1:09:30.800 --> 1:09:35.040 again for a major, right, Like I think he's having 1:09:35.600 --> 1:09:39.240 he's just having a heater. He's on a heater. He's playing, 1:09:40.240 --> 1:09:42.200 you know, some of the best golf of his career. 1:09:43.840 --> 1:09:46.880 He's in a stratosphere in terms of the strokes game 1:09:47.000 --> 1:09:50.160 numbers that I never thought he would get back to. 1:09:51.400 --> 1:09:53.840 He's a top ten player in the world in the 1:09:53.920 --> 1:09:54.719 last six months. 1:09:54.880 --> 1:09:58.240 Yeah, it's the best he's ever hit his irons statistically, 1:09:58.439 --> 1:10:01.840 I mean not, and it's not really that close, you know, 1:10:01.920 --> 1:10:04.840 and if you look at if you look at driver, 1:10:04.920 --> 1:10:07.080 it's actually one of the worst seasons he's ever had 1:10:07.160 --> 1:10:10.040 in terms of strokes gained, which you know, we talked 1:10:10.040 --> 1:10:13.640 about it in an Open championship can be it's not 1:10:14.000 --> 1:10:17.439 maybe as it's different than it is on the PGA Tour. 1:10:17.560 --> 1:10:19.559 So I don't I don't know how much you want 1:10:19.600 --> 1:10:21.280 to how much credence you want to give to that, 1:10:21.320 --> 1:10:23.200 but I do think that I think you're right. I 1:10:23.200 --> 1:10:25.519 think there's a case to be made that this is 1:10:25.560 --> 1:10:28.920 the best chance that Ricky Fower will ever have to 1:10:28.960 --> 1:10:31.360 win a major championship. That that doesn't mean that he's 1:10:31.400 --> 1:10:33.920 going like it could happen to where he loses this 1:10:34.000 --> 1:10:37.240 week and then wins the US Open three years from now, 1:10:37.240 --> 1:10:40.400 But that doesn't mean that his chance wasn't better going 1:10:40.479 --> 1:10:41.639 into this week. 1:10:41.680 --> 1:10:45.320 I think, yeah, like running into the tournament, yeah, like it, 1:10:45.720 --> 1:10:48.960 you know, has ever anything ever aligned better? 1:10:49.479 --> 1:10:49.639 Right? 1:10:49.680 --> 1:10:51.599 And this is this could be a golf course too, 1:10:51.640 --> 1:10:55.680 where power is not super it's more about control. And 1:10:56.160 --> 1:10:58.160 this is these are all the things that I think 1:10:58.600 --> 1:11:00.840 can play into it, right, Like this is a golf 1:11:00.880 --> 1:11:07.240 course where it's about avoiding hazards, finding fair ways, you know, 1:11:07.680 --> 1:11:12.240 Like I just I think like links golf fits his game, right. 1:11:12.320 --> 1:11:15.680 It it brings the artistry, it brings the you know, 1:11:15.800 --> 1:11:20.240 it brings the intangibles like it's in it skews older. 1:11:20.280 --> 1:11:23.720 He would fit that, like he's right, he's thirty four. Yeah, 1:11:23.760 --> 1:11:25.519 the average age of winner's thirty four. 1:11:25.840 --> 1:11:28.240 Yep, him and him and Rory are both thirty four. 1:11:28.880 --> 1:11:31.599 I yeah, it's a really good point. And I think, 1:11:31.760 --> 1:11:33.200 you know, the thing I was thinking about after he 1:11:33.240 --> 1:11:36.160 wanted Detroit was with with a lot of guys, when 1:11:36.200 --> 1:11:39.160 they're when they're close to winning, close to winning, close 1:11:39.160 --> 1:11:41.840 to winning, and then they finally win, you can almost 1:11:41.840 --> 1:11:44.559 see the drop off coming. You can see the other 1:11:44.680 --> 1:11:47.800 side of the roller coaster, right, And it does not 1:11:47.920 --> 1:11:50.800 feel like that with him, you know. And and I 1:11:50.840 --> 1:11:53.640 was talking about this on my pod about how like 1:11:53.760 --> 1:11:57.200 it that felt like almost like a checkpoint, like there's 1:11:57.280 --> 1:11:58.920 there's more to be had. And I don't know if 1:11:58.960 --> 1:12:01.120 that means this Open or getting back to the top 1:12:01.160 --> 1:12:03.320 ten in the world or whatever he does at the 1:12:03.360 --> 1:12:05.840 Ryder Cup, but I don't That did not feel like 1:12:05.920 --> 1:12:09.479 the sort of end of a journey that he was 1:12:09.800 --> 1:12:12.000 kind of like, that didn't feel like the destination. It 1:12:12.000 --> 1:12:15.120 feels like there's there's more for him to get to, 1:12:15.800 --> 1:12:19.160 possibly this year, but potentially even even beyond that. 1:12:19.800 --> 1:12:25.000 Any We're recording this on Friday afternoon and he's t 1:12:25.000 --> 1:12:28.240 ten at the Scottish Open. Yeah, no matter what happens 1:12:28.280 --> 1:12:32.240 this weekend. What that tells me is that the game 1:12:32.360 --> 1:12:35.840 is in form. He's ready to go. He's like he's 1:12:35.920 --> 1:12:39.320 locked in, Like I think what he believed and he 1:12:39.400 --> 1:12:42.599 believes and the thing I think that he has now 1:12:42.720 --> 1:12:46.000 after Rocket Mortgage. I hate saying this about you know, 1:12:46.160 --> 1:12:49.320 Rocket Mortgage like this, but like there's real belief. There's 1:12:49.360 --> 1:12:52.640 more belief than before the US Open, Like this is 1:12:53.080 --> 1:12:57.080 major championships are all about a lot about belief, and 1:12:57.120 --> 1:13:01.080 I think there's never been maybe more belief for Ricky 1:13:01.120 --> 1:13:02.920 Fowlers since twenty fourteen. 1:13:03.280 --> 1:13:09.200 Yep. Yeah, And it's crazy to think how much I 1:13:09.240 --> 1:13:11.080 think you talk about this a lot. I know all 1:13:11.120 --> 1:13:12.880 of us do. But how much of it is just 1:13:13.880 --> 1:13:16.799 like luck, you know, a couple a couple of things 1:13:16.840 --> 1:13:19.960 going like you have all these things that want that 1:13:20.040 --> 1:13:22.880 line up. You're hitting it great, you believe all. You 1:13:22.960 --> 1:13:25.960 hit some putt, you make some putts whatever, But then 1:13:26.080 --> 1:13:28.679 like one or two things can go badly and there 1:13:28.800 --> 1:13:30.639 that's the end of your You know, you don't win 1:13:30.760 --> 1:13:32.800 because of that, and that is just that has to 1:13:32.840 --> 1:13:38.200 be mentally infuriating. I was curious, who did you who 1:13:38.200 --> 1:13:39.840 did you think was the best dressed out of that 1:13:39.840 --> 1:13:41.000 that trio at Wimbledon. 1:13:43.680 --> 1:13:49.160 It's a hard question. There's there's there's My college fuddies 1:13:49.760 --> 1:13:53.080 have had a chain going. All of them were just disgusted, 1:13:53.280 --> 1:13:59.000 you know, they're I think that the uh, I don't know. 1:13:59.479 --> 1:14:03.280 I think it definitely wasn't speed. Well can we agree 1:14:03.280 --> 1:14:06.040 on that, No, we can't. I actually think it was speed. 1:14:06.760 --> 1:14:07.839 It just wasn't ironed. 1:14:08.720 --> 1:14:12.000 The outcome was bad. His process was good because he 1:14:12.080 --> 1:14:14.960 didn't The thing that he did was he didn't try 1:14:15.000 --> 1:14:19.240 too hard. Like he he stayed within himself. He didn't 1:14:19.320 --> 1:14:22.120 try to do too much. He didn't try to cover 1:14:22.360 --> 1:14:26.719 like a two eighty, you know lake when he only 1:14:26.720 --> 1:14:30.559 had a two sixty club. He just forgot to He 1:14:30.680 --> 1:14:33.760 just forgot to iron the pants, which was which was 1:14:33.760 --> 1:14:34.240 not great. 1:14:35.600 --> 1:14:39.599 Honestly, I'm looking at the picture now, the pants. I mean, 1:14:39.680 --> 1:14:42.599 I respect it because I just want to put this 1:14:42.640 --> 1:14:45.680 out there. If people ever see me in public, my 1:14:45.760 --> 1:14:47.960 pants will probably look like George speed Well. 1:14:47.960 --> 1:14:49.760 Somebody was trying to tell me that it was he 1:14:49.800 --> 1:14:52.519 was wearing linen pants and you can't iron linen. I 1:14:52.560 --> 1:14:55.519 was like, I don't think those are linen pants. 1:14:55.880 --> 1:14:58.400 Honestly, I think Rick looks the best. 1:14:58.640 --> 1:15:01.680 Yeah, JT, there's JT's got a lot going on. 1:15:03.360 --> 1:15:07.800 Yeah, there is a lot going on. It's I mean, 1:15:08.360 --> 1:15:11.400 I respect JT for for going for it. 1:15:11.640 --> 1:15:15.080 Yeah, yeah, he's almost Yeah, he's it's like a bit. 1:15:15.360 --> 1:15:18.200 He's like playing a playing a part. 1:15:18.600 --> 1:15:21.840 That's who's your pick to win? Real quick, we're we're 1:15:22.680 --> 1:15:25.120 way over time here for the Fridayke pod. 1:15:25.360 --> 1:15:27.120 Well, I didn't know we had a time limit. We're 1:15:27.120 --> 1:15:30.040 talking about Eric, Eric mcke and Jeff Green. 1:15:30.880 --> 1:15:35.000 There's no time limit. There's there's just constraints put put 1:15:35.040 --> 1:15:36.080 on by my own self. 1:15:36.160 --> 1:15:38.240 I don't think I have picked him for a major 1:15:38.280 --> 1:15:42.800 this year. I know I haven't, but I'm I'm I'm 1:15:42.920 --> 1:15:45.719 ready to I'm ready to run it back, get hurt 1:15:46.240 --> 1:15:49.680 all all that. Yeah, I think he's gonna win by 1:15:49.760 --> 1:15:52.960 like five. I really, do you know? 1:15:53.400 --> 1:15:56.120 My one and done pick is gonna be cam Smith. 1:15:56.400 --> 1:16:00.360 I'm kind of starting to talk myself into Ricky. Yeah, 1:16:01.080 --> 1:16:04.639 I think Scotty is gonna win. Okay, there's that Strokes 1:16:04.640 --> 1:16:08.880 gained total stat or whatever about like two thousand and 1:16:08.960 --> 1:16:15.439 six and twenty fourteen Tiger and Rory and I think 1:16:15.479 --> 1:16:19.160 that I think Hoylake Hoyla could become the new Birkdale 1:16:19.680 --> 1:16:22.040 where you say, like, look at the winners. That's like 1:16:22.080 --> 1:16:24.599 one of the things like if Rory wins again, if 1:16:24.640 --> 1:16:28.240 Scotty wins, if rom wins all of a sudden, I 1:16:28.280 --> 1:16:32.479 think that the RODA discussion discourse needs to be like 1:16:32.560 --> 1:16:35.439 the place that produces the winners is Hoylake, because then 1:16:35.439 --> 1:16:38.439 you go back Peter Thompson. De Vicenzo obviously was a 1:16:38.479 --> 1:16:42.080 great player, but Peter Thompson then they were just like 1:16:42.439 --> 1:16:45.080 completely out of the ROTA for a long time. I 1:16:45.120 --> 1:16:48.640 also want hearing more about the Dowie hole. I want it, 1:16:48.720 --> 1:16:52.080 I want it back. I want the par three surrounded 1:16:52.120 --> 1:16:53.360 by out of bounds back. 1:16:54.200 --> 1:17:00.479 Oh, that would be amazing. The Bergdale list is so crazy, Well, 1:17:00.520 --> 1:17:02.960 they got the problem is the most recent champions just 1:17:03.000 --> 1:17:05.880 a guy. Oh my gosh, we've gone long enough for 1:17:05.920 --> 1:17:08.240 you to say that that that needs we need to. 1:17:09.160 --> 1:17:11.680 I just wanted to rile you up. That was that 1:17:11.800 --> 1:17:15.559 was That was a joke. Just a guy came out 1:17:15.640 --> 1:17:16.600 after Brickdale. 1:17:17.280 --> 1:17:19.400 Yeah, that's true. That's a good point. He was the 1:17:19.400 --> 1:17:21.560 best iron party in the world in twenty seventeen. 1:17:21.760 --> 1:17:25.160 Yeah, I've you know, at that point, it was where's 1:17:25.200 --> 1:17:27.760 this going? That's what you know. That's my favorite. One 1:17:27.800 --> 1:17:31.240 of my favorite things with majors is how the discourse 1:17:31.760 --> 1:17:34.840 immediately after is like, is this guy gonna win eight? 1:17:36.080 --> 1:17:40.080 I got like, I love Tron he's the best. After 1:17:40.520 --> 1:17:44.200 after more Kala won Royal Saint George's two years ago, 1:17:44.560 --> 1:17:48.800 he he legitimately said that more CaWO would win eight 1:17:48.960 --> 1:17:53.120 major championships, and it's I get it. It's easy to do. 1:17:53.280 --> 1:17:57.559 It's easy to to Uh. It's because it's so easy 1:17:57.560 --> 1:18:00.639 to invasion, right, Like they've just won, like this guy's 1:18:00.760 --> 1:18:03.800 But there's the beautiful thing about majors is there's only 1:18:03.840 --> 1:18:06.760 so many of them, and there can't ever be more 1:18:06.760 --> 1:18:10.320 of them. It's like the perfect It's the perfect amount 1:18:10.600 --> 1:18:13.760 of what you want from the most important events of 1:18:13.800 --> 1:18:14.599 the year for golf. 1:18:15.439 --> 1:18:20.400 Yeah, I completely agree. All right, Kyle, thank you for 1:18:20.439 --> 1:18:23.400 coming on. This was delightful. People can find your work 1:18:23.400 --> 1:18:27.520 at cbssports dot com. They can subscribe to your newsletter, 1:18:27.640 --> 1:18:33.280 the Normal Sporter, and then they can also find you 1:18:33.360 --> 1:18:37.720 on Twitter and Instagram. Is it Kyle Porter CBS. 1:18:37.800 --> 1:18:42.799 Yeah, at both threads too. I've made them cans forgot 1:18:42.880 --> 1:18:46.400 about Threads. I keep I check it every once in 1:18:46.439 --> 1:18:50.280 a while. There's too many, too many places. I don't 1:18:50.320 --> 1:18:52.720 have the time to double post now, even if it's 1:18:52.800 --> 1:18:55.800 copy and paste. No, I'm good. 1:18:55.840 --> 1:18:57.479 Have you has to just win out? 1:18:57.560 --> 1:19:01.400 Have you gotten paid by Twitter yet? No? All these 1:19:02.000 --> 1:19:05.240 all these all these creators getting getting paid for their 1:19:05.439 --> 1:19:08.080 for their their viewer. 1:19:10.720 --> 1:19:11.160 To golf. 1:19:11.800 --> 1:19:13.599 I don't know. I checked with I checked with some 1:19:13.640 --> 1:19:16.000 of the I checked with Sally and he said he 1:19:16.000 --> 1:19:19.000 he hasn't received it either, So maybe I don't know. 1:19:19.280 --> 1:19:23.000 He wants to be worried about the Kardashians, not us 1:19:23.040 --> 1:19:24.920 golf content creators. 1:19:26.640 --> 1:19:28.720 Maybe the Live boys are getting it intant, Maybe they 1:19:28.760 --> 1:19:31.479 live the live the live bots are getting it. 1:19:31.479 --> 1:19:40.360 Instead absolutely something that probably is happening. They get They've 1:19:40.360 --> 1:19:47.120 gotten everything so far. All right, we love I love 1:19:47.200 --> 1:19:51.519 you live bots, you know. Yeah, I do not I 1:19:51.600 --> 1:19:56.519 find it humorous. I just I enjoy laughing. My beads 1:19:56.520 --> 1:19:59.160 of social media at this point are for purely, strictly 1:19:59.200 --> 1:20:02.080 for humor. Find the humor and everything, even when. 1:20:01.920 --> 1:20:03.920 It's very serious, it's great. I love it. 1:20:04.360 --> 1:20:08.080 All right, Kyle, thank you, and we'll talk soon. I 1:20:08.120 --> 1:20:21.000 can't believe the opens here. Thanks Andy, thank you for 1:20:21.120 --> 1:20:25.960 listening to another edition of the Friday Podcast. Today's episode 1:20:26.640 --> 1:20:30.640 was edited by Matt Russ's Thank you, Matt. Matt's been 1:20:30.720 --> 1:20:33.320 killing it with our social media channels. If you don't, 1:20:33.640 --> 1:20:36.960 if you aren't on social media, I really applaud you. 1:20:37.080 --> 1:20:39.640 That's an amazing thing. 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