Speaker 1: I miss a green, for example, I'm already upset. When
Speaker 1: I find my ball in the bunker, I'm really upset.
Speaker 1: And when I find my ball in a egg Frida Egg,
Speaker 1: the d Frida Egg, Frida Egg, Egg Bride Egg Lie,
Speaker 1: I'm about ready to run off the golf.
Speaker 2: Welcome back to another edition of the Frida Egg Podcast.
Speaker 2: We are here final major, final men's major of the year.
Speaker 2: I think this is a uh, it's crazy, it's a
Speaker 2: I think the new schedule. This is what happens is
Speaker 2: we kind of just all of a sudden poof major
Speaker 2: season for the men is over. Obviously, we have the
Speaker 2: Women's Open coming up at Walton Heath, which will be
Speaker 2: really fun to watch. Also, so but we're here at
Speaker 2: the Open Championship, so I'm not there, but it is
Speaker 2: says a golf world are there. So we are doing
Speaker 2: a lot of stuff on the Frida Egg this week. Obviously,
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Speaker 2: guest is Kyle Porter. Kyle writes for CBS. He also
Speaker 2: has a book every year that comes out normal Sport.
Speaker 2: I think it's coming out again this year. But he's
Speaker 2: obviously a formative mind in the golf space, a wonderful
Speaker 2: golf writer at CBS, and was really fun to chat
Speaker 2: with him about this Open, about a myriad of topics,
Speaker 2: some of the big names, whether the course, different things.
Speaker 2: So without further ado, here is Kyle Porter with our
Speaker 2: five things about the Open Championship. Thanks, and here.
Speaker 1: We got.
Speaker 2: All right, Kyle, I I understand you're going through the
Speaker 2: fomo that I'm going through of not being in Scotland.
Speaker 1: I am. I'm wearing my Crail England, England or Scotland.
Speaker 1: I'm wearing my my Crail hat right now. Last year
Speaker 1: was you know some of the photos that that that
Speaker 1: you and I were in or part of, or you
Speaker 1: know some some of the some of the rounds that
Speaker 1: we played. They've been popping up, you know, people were
Speaker 1: reposting them and you know, texting them and sharing them
Speaker 1: and it reminded me of just what a that was.
Speaker 1: My first time to Scotland was last year for the
Speaker 1: for the Open, and it was just it blew away
Speaker 1: whatever my expectations were. And yeah, I'm just I'm bombed
Speaker 1: to not get to go back over. And it's such
Speaker 1: a it's such a I think I heard you guys
Speaker 1: talking about this the other day. It's such a magical
Speaker 1: time of year with Wimbledon going on and the Open
Speaker 1: and everything else. And it's fun to experience from afar,
Speaker 1: but it's better to experience from up close. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, how long the days are? I think that round
Speaker 2: we played together at Ealy. We were playing till about
Speaker 2: ten thirty at night. It was so dark when we
Speaker 2: were finishing. And then we had that cab ride home.
Speaker 2: But and it was the cab ride. There was even
Speaker 2: But were you in the cab that that I was
Speaker 2: in that was getting tasked down that country road? Was
Speaker 2: the cab and other cab?
Speaker 1: It was the cab. Whatever cab I was in, was
Speaker 1: the one that Bacon was up front?
Speaker 2: Yes, and.
Speaker 1: He couldn't. The guy was speaking English, but he was
Speaker 1: like Bacon.
Speaker 2: A thick a very thick accent.
Speaker 1: It was. It was incredible and Bacon at one point
Speaker 1: you could you could see it shift where he was
Speaker 1: like trying try and trying to understand, and then you
Speaker 1: saw him shift to like I give up, I'm out,
Speaker 1: Like I'm just gonna nod and pretend like I'm I'm
Speaker 1: I'm understanding what this guy's saying. It was.
Speaker 2: God, that was great. Great last year's opin, I mean,
Speaker 2: all time tournament, all time trip that Saturday night out
Speaker 2: before everybody was Rory's gonna get it done. Then then
Speaker 2: the vandal Cam Smith just just stole stole the tournament,
Speaker 2: broke his heart, broke broke all the media's heart.
Speaker 3: I'm a contrarian, and I don't know if I want
Speaker 3: to really like freely admit this, but like coming down
Speaker 3: the background, I kind of was rooted for Cam just
Speaker 3: for the h.
Speaker 2: I felt it coming.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I just as soon as he made the birdie on
Speaker 2: eleven last year, I just you just were like, oh boy,
Speaker 2: this guy is I mean, I still that those shots
Speaker 2: he hit coming down on the stretch. I haven't rewatched it,
Speaker 2: but they're about as vivid of shots in my in
Speaker 2: my mind like that, you know, you have, like those
Speaker 2: pictures that you remember and the camp Smith on the
Speaker 2: back line of Saint Andrews that that that day are
Speaker 2: about the most vivid golf tournament memories. I don't think
Speaker 2: they're going away anytime soon.
Speaker 1: Well, I think you know, it's interesting because when, as
Speaker 1: people know, when you're out there, it's hard to see
Speaker 1: multiple players if they're not in the same pairing, and
Speaker 1: so we inevitably this happened in La We were watching
Speaker 1: we were watching Wendham Clark on your phone, like literally
Speaker 1: your phone was you were holding it out and people
Speaker 1: were watching what Wyndham was doing two holes behind or
Speaker 1: a hole behind from where we were. And I remember
Speaker 1: that happening at the Open last year when Cam was
Speaker 1: on seventeen because we were with Rory and Hobland or
Speaker 1: I was. I don't remember where everybody else was, but
Speaker 1: I remember seeing somebody's the video on somebody's phone because
Speaker 1: you don't know what else is going on, and you
Speaker 1: saw where Cam's ball was on seventeen after his second shot,
Speaker 1: and in your head you're like, okay, that's a five,
Speaker 1: so what like, how is this going to affect everybody else?
Speaker 1: How's this going to play out? And then when he
Speaker 1: makes four there, you're like, okay, well that's that's it,
Speaker 1: like that's the tournament. And that was that was the
Speaker 1: moment for me that he was like, oh this just
Speaker 1: this happened, like this it's not going to happen. It
Speaker 1: just did happen, and there's really no turning back, and
Speaker 1: you have to you have to consider like how crushing
Speaker 1: that is for everybody else involved, specifically Rory because he
Speaker 1: was the one that was out in front, but also
Speaker 1: for Hoveland. And it was a opens at Saint Andrew's
Speaker 1: are you know, magnificent. But they're also weighty because they
Speaker 1: only happen once every you know, five or six years,
Speaker 1: and that that's a that's a pretty crushing thing to
Speaker 1: have happened to you at the end.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that's the fascinating thing about the open
Speaker 2: at Saint Andrews, right, It is like it has this
Speaker 2: it's kind of got the weight of a master's yep,
Speaker 2: but without the annual aspect of it. I mean Cam
Speaker 2: Young eagled eighteen. I mean I think that's the thing
Speaker 2: that gets lost, and I mean he made the putt
Speaker 2: after it was a foregone conclusion that Smith was making
Speaker 2: Birdie on eighteen. But I have to say, like of all,
Speaker 2: you know, all the shots like that Cam hit to win,
Speaker 2: the routineness of the up and down for Bertie on
Speaker 2: eighteen kind of gets glossed over. How the guy just
Speaker 2: like literally just that was about a stone cold as
Speaker 2: it gets right. It's not an easy up and down
Speaker 2: by any means, but to hit it to like, hit
Speaker 2: it to nothing where there's not even a shred of
Speaker 2: doubt that he's making Birdie was just serial killer stuff.
Speaker 2: So let's get in. Let's get into our typical exercise.
Speaker 2: Five things about the Open This year will be at
Speaker 2: Royal Liverpool Hoylake as a lot of people will call
Speaker 2: it for short, what is your first thing or a
Speaker 2: thing that you're looking for?
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's let's keep it going with Cam actually because
Speaker 1: he's on my list and it's it's partly because I
Speaker 1: left him. Yeah, there you go. It's probably because of
Speaker 1: last year obviously, because he won and nobody's repeated since
Speaker 1: since twenty twenty three. Writer cup Padrick Harrington did back
Speaker 1: in two thousand and seven, two thousand and eight, did
Speaker 1: you see him at the We're taping this on Friday,
Speaker 1: but did you see he's in like sixth place at
Speaker 1: the Scottish Open's what's going on?
Speaker 2: Is he gonna be on the writer come team bombing
Speaker 2: the ball?
Speaker 1: It's unbelievable, Uh, Cam Smith repeat, listen like it's it's
Speaker 1: been quiet because people don't watch live, and he's not.
Speaker 1: He kind of only pops up at the majors and whatever.
Speaker 1: But he's got I believe it's twelve straight excuse me,
Speaker 1: eight straight top twelves worldwide, including live, but also including
Speaker 1: a top ten at the PGA, a fourth place finish
Speaker 1: at the US Open. His strokes game numbers, which include
Speaker 1: live on data golf, are very good, like better than
Speaker 1: brooks Kopka, better than kind of right there with Rory
Speaker 1: and Victor Hovelin. And you know, the Open is the
Speaker 1: kind of place where he doesn't he's he's a crooked driver,
Speaker 1: right like he can get very I still remember that
Speaker 1: drive he hit on sixteen at TPC Sawgrass when he
Speaker 1: won a couple of years ago, and it was like,
Speaker 1: that's not a drive that I've seen a major champion
Speaker 1: hit very often when he looked it into the woods.
Speaker 1: But you can create, I mean, you can creatively get
Speaker 1: your way out out of stuff like that at the
Speaker 1: Open Championship. So cam Smith me is a massive storyline
Speaker 1: going in, not just because he's a defending champion, but
Speaker 1: also because he's been playing kind of quietly some very
Speaker 1: good golf recently.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you're talking about a handful of the
Speaker 2: best players in the world, right, And I think that
Speaker 2: gets obscured a little bit for two reasons. One, as
Speaker 2: he's self admitted, he kind of kind of took it
Speaker 2: easy this winter partied and wasn't like guns of blazon
Speaker 2: on the outset of the of the year. But also
Speaker 2: because as you mentioned, he's kind of been wandering about
Speaker 2: in obscurity on this on the Lift Tour, which you know,
Speaker 2: it's it's the players have performed well. He's one of
Speaker 2: them who's performed well in major championships, but it does
Speaker 2: not you know, the the tour is still very obscure
Speaker 2: in the sense of nobody really follows it. Yeah, uh
Speaker 2: so yeah, I think cam uh this golf course. One
Speaker 2: of my things that this ties into that I am
Speaker 2: curious about is the golf course and how it holds
Speaker 2: up with with driving, you know, like it's a golf
Speaker 2: course that's known for like you really got to control
Speaker 2: your ball out there. And I think it's it's fairly narrow.
Speaker 2: It's a little bit more narrow than the old course.
Speaker 2: It has a lot of like holes that move on
Speaker 2: angles that makes it play more narrow, and I'm I'm
Speaker 2: just curious with with where modern golf is going, where
Speaker 2: it's just you know, hit driver, and this is I
Speaker 2: think something that's fascinating with the Open in general. The
Speaker 2: Open has kind of pushed back with firm conditions. I
Speaker 2: think the unpredictable rough has an impact on this, and
Speaker 2: then also just the weather that you can encounter.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: It's you can get in some really unbeneficial places hitting
Speaker 2: it really close. But this golf course has a sharp
Speaker 2: penalty for bunker misses. It is fairly narrow. It is
Speaker 2: a golf course that you know, if you look at
Speaker 2: Tiger and six and Rory's win, they drove the shit
Speaker 2: out of the ball. Tiger did so that driving the
Speaker 2: shit out of the ball was avoiding bunkers and placing
Speaker 2: the ball in the fairway.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: He was playing from short grass. That was his big thing, right,
Speaker 2: So I'm just curious how this golf course holds up.
Speaker 2: What type of profile of players are we going to see.
Speaker 2: You know, we we haven't seen it since twenty fourteen.
Speaker 2: A lot has changed in golf since then, and I
Speaker 2: think that's something that I'm fascinated by. And like Cam Smith,
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna lie. He's my one and done pick.
Speaker 2: You know, if I was picking somebody for the tournament,
Speaker 2: it might be something different, Like I'm in a one
Speaker 2: and done league that I've used almost every big name,
Speaker 2: Like he's going to be my pick, But how's he profile?
Speaker 2: And the thing about cam is like he's such a
Speaker 2: good player. He profiles well everywhere, Like we saw him
Speaker 2: at Okill top ten and he didn't even play well
Speaker 2: and that wasn't a golf course that would you would
Speaker 2: say fits the camp Smith profile. But I think the
Speaker 2: thing that happens in abroad with camp Smith is that
Speaker 2: the elements come out and it's it's about shot making
Speaker 2: and there's some more artistry in the game, and I
Speaker 2: think that's that really really benefits him. So that one
Speaker 2: of mine is kind of around driving the golf ball
Speaker 2: in Hoylake, which at Hoylake, which is an interesting intersection
Speaker 2: with camp Do you think do you think what's your
Speaker 2: next one?
Speaker 1: I was gonna ask real quid. Do you think number
Speaker 1: one is an example of that? With the internal ob
Speaker 1: or are you a king? Ad?
Speaker 2: So that would be the third hole in terms of
Speaker 2: what I like about is because that's the third hole
Speaker 2: for the tournament.
Speaker 1: I think one on that it's one on the course
Speaker 1: but third in the tournament, right, Yeah, exactly what I like.
Speaker 1: That hole kind of presents it right. You're gonna get
Speaker 1: these firm conditions, and there's holes that move in directions, right,
Speaker 1: they aren't like straight holes, Yeah, a lot of them.
Speaker 1: When they move into direct actions. With the firm conditions,
Speaker 1: you're having to pick a line and distant, if that
Speaker 1: makes sense. So with that whole especially, you need to
Speaker 1: pick a line where you're going to cut some of
Speaker 1: it off.
Speaker 2: And if you don't pick it, if you're too safe
Speaker 2: with your line, you're going to run through into the
Speaker 2: rough right right if you're too aggressive, or if you
Speaker 2: push it for right hand or you're going to end
Speaker 2: up maybe ob So these guys are going to be
Speaker 2: more conservative there. But yeah, that's a perfect example of
Speaker 2: it where you know, the the the emphasis on driving
Speaker 2: is created a lot by the way the fairway moves,
Speaker 2: where you're starting to have to pick distance targets and
Speaker 2: line targets. When a fairway's just straight, you just are
Speaker 2: trying to hit it straight right, and you don't have
Speaker 2: to worry about picking a distance because you know if
Speaker 2: you hit it straight, it can go any distance, right
Speaker 2: when a fairway like this is what Pete Die does,
Speaker 2: I think really well, is that those Pete Die courses
Speaker 2: and why they say timeless, I think to a certain
Speaker 2: extent is because of the way the fairways move on angles.
Speaker 2: A lot of times even straight holes have some angular
Speaker 2: nature to them. And what it does is it really
Speaker 2: creates a double decision rather than just a singular decision.
Speaker 1: So I think.
Speaker 2: That's one of the I think the fairway bunkers being
Speaker 2: super penal, along with the way the fairways some of
Speaker 2: the angles set up make this a really really tough
Speaker 2: driving test, right, And I'm curious if it's going to
Speaker 2: be if in the last you know, almost ten years,
Speaker 2: with the way distances, how many long hitters there are
Speaker 2: now are there? How is it going to work? That's
Speaker 2: that's kind of one of the things I'm watching.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's there's a whole I think it's like fourteen
Speaker 1: on the back where Tiger hold out in what was
Speaker 1: that twosy six five? Whenever you want that and uh,
Speaker 1: it's it's it is set. What you're saying fits that.
Speaker 1: Also because there's a there's a bunker that you can
Speaker 1: cover or you can kind of go, it's gonna be
Speaker 1: really interesting because I think in the past that's been
Speaker 1: such an advantage for Rory Tiger guys that are so
Speaker 1: long off the tee. But now do you bring eighty
Speaker 1: guys into that, one hundred guys into that, you know,
Speaker 1: will they challenge differently. I think that it's always interesting
Speaker 1: it opens because it's there's so much variability in play.
Speaker 1: But I think what you're saying perhaps even even more
Speaker 1: so this year. You mentioned the weather. That's actually my
Speaker 1: second one, and the reason is because I can't remember
Speaker 1: the last time we had I mean, growing up, you
Speaker 1: think about watching the Open, you think about some of
Speaker 1: the just insane stuff that we saw on TV whenever
Speaker 1: or the Open was being played, and you had these
Speaker 1: crazy weather days and guys shooting eighty eighty five whatever.
Speaker 1: We haven't really had that in the last several years. Right,
Speaker 1: last year was perfect all four days. Twenty twenty one,
Speaker 1: Royal Saint George's it didn't There was no win, There
Speaker 1: wasn't a lot going on twenty twenty, there was no tournament.
Speaker 1: You kind of got to go back to twenty nineteen
Speaker 1: at Port Rush when it and it wasn't really it
Speaker 1: was just kind of rainy. It wasn't like horrible weather,
Speaker 1: but I would love to WESTI went no rain jack
Speaker 1: at that day. Yeah, question it was was bold. That
Speaker 1: was That was when Fleetwood started buying stuff out of
Speaker 1: the gift shop and using like open umbrellas and headcovers.
Speaker 2: And went he went full Sandy Lou.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, Sandy might have bought it for him so
Speaker 1: he can get recognized. But I want to see that
Speaker 1: day or two days or whatever of really like, hey,
Speaker 1: this is this is going to be horrible to play in.
Speaker 1: Let's see can you can you get through this stretch?
Speaker 1: Can the leaders get through this stretch? And you know
Speaker 1: that that to me is part of the open Championship
Speaker 1: test and we just we just haven't seen it in
Speaker 1: several years.
Speaker 2: Early forecasts predict a lot of rain, like rain every day.
Speaker 1: Well I don't want that. I just want like one
Speaker 1: day of it.
Speaker 2: We'll see, we'll see how it is. I I know
Speaker 2: it's very sandy there, so hopefully it'll still be pretty
Speaker 2: firm and everything. I know it's a very sandy site
Speaker 2: and they had a really dry couple months, but recently
Speaker 2: it's been been pretty wet out there. But yeah, like
Speaker 2: you want that brooks Kopka was it was it the
Speaker 2: old course where yeah, so yeah, I I I think
Speaker 2: the interest of this tournament and is like the weather, right,
Speaker 2: that's it's always got to be a big story because
Speaker 2: it is the the thing that is the is the test,
Speaker 2: like it's kind of the last remaining I think it's
Speaker 2: the last remaining thing that really really introduces variability to
Speaker 2: the sport.
Speaker 1: Yep, especially wind right, Like you talk to these guys
Speaker 1: and it's like the one thing that they just can't
Speaker 1: handle is wind, Like they don't they don't have an
Speaker 1: answer for it. And that's where you start to see
Speaker 1: like the true like flushers and ball strikers start to
Speaker 1: emerge and that like I love that because it's it's
Speaker 1: it's a variability that there's no answers for. Everything else
Speaker 1: has an answer that you can't solve that, and I'd
Speaker 1: love to see more of that presented by mother nature.
Speaker 1: I guess in this tournament.
Speaker 2: I mean once we once we moved a full simulator golf,
Speaker 2: we'll be able to just put set the settings to
Speaker 2: twenty mile an hour.
Speaker 1: Whims sure are they gonna have fans in TGL Like
Speaker 1: not people, but like the like actual fans just blowing
Speaker 1: balls all over the place would be amazing.
Speaker 2: Hey, they're trying to make the most real golf experience.
Speaker 1: You're amazing.
Speaker 2: I saw in a press release, so all right along
Speaker 2: those lines, I think because of wind, because of weather,
Speaker 2: because of firm conditions, because of some of the nuance
Speaker 2: in the golf courses. I think this is the experience
Speaker 2: is something I always watched for. I think the profile
Speaker 2: of who is a favorite is much different at the
Speaker 2: Open than everywhere else. Yeah, the average winter age of
Speaker 2: the last eleven opens, do you know what it is?
Speaker 1: I remember seeing this. I think it's like thirty six.
Speaker 2: It's thirty four brought it the last two more cow
Speaker 2: and Cam twenty five, twenty eight brought it down a
Speaker 2: little bit.
Speaker 1: Because she had to show through and Stenson, yeah, ZJ.
Speaker 2: Darren Clark was forty one, Ernie was forty one, Phil
Speaker 2: was forty two, Rory was twenty four, ZJ thirty nine,
Speaker 2: Stenson forty, Speak twenty four, Mullinari thirty six, Lowry thirty three,
Speaker 2: Markow twenty five, Campsmith twenty eight. Obviously, you know, if
Speaker 2: you went with a median instead of an average, it
Speaker 2: would be probably about thirty six. Yeah, I if I'm
Speaker 2: just eyeballing it correctly, but yeah, so this is a
Speaker 2: this is a golf course, it ties in with your
Speaker 2: weather thing, or this is a tournament that favors you know,
Speaker 2: the old and I'm wondering, I'm wondering, do we get
Speaker 2: do we get a wiley guy?
Speaker 1: Padrig? Padrig's in it, Padrig.
Speaker 2: I mean I always like I'm I've said this on
Speaker 2: other preview pods. I'm waiting, I'm waiting for Adam Scott
Speaker 2: to get his second man. Yeah, I know, Sergio's not
Speaker 2: in it. So like you know, you got like Justin Rose,
Speaker 2: other people that would maybe profile in there. But I
Speaker 2: think like Adam Scott's always the one that makes sense,
Speaker 2: and like you look at his career, you look at
Speaker 2: everything he's accomplished. It's like, God, he's got to have
Speaker 2: two majors and obviously he kind of kicked one away.
Speaker 2: Yeah in an open kind of yeah, maybe more than
Speaker 2: kind of.
Speaker 1: I mean, he but he's the guy, right like if
Speaker 1: you look at and you do the thing with players
Speaker 1: as a half major.
Speaker 2: Right, yeah, well that was Garrett's idea. Okay, probably correct,
Speaker 2: but it makes more sense when you do the half major, Well,
Speaker 2: it totally does.
Speaker 1: But I think he's the guy him and probably Sergio
Speaker 1: that if you look at just what they've accomplished over
Speaker 1: the course of their careers, it doesn't it doesn't really
Speaker 1: add up or make sense that they only have one
Speaker 1: major championship. And I think, you know, you could throw
Speaker 1: Jason Day in there, but the thing about Adam Scott
Speaker 1: compared to Jason Day is like the breadth of achievement, right,
Speaker 1: Like he's he's been good, he's been elite for like
Speaker 1: twenty years.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're into the twenties, into the twenties, and they're
Speaker 2: so few guys, yeah, in golf history that are relevant
Speaker 2: for twenty plus years.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think that, you know, I think he
Speaker 1: can take some encouragement from the last, well from the
Speaker 1: Open the history you just read, but even the last
Speaker 1: like Phil winning Kiowa and different things that have happened
Speaker 1: over the last several years. I think Harry Player said
Speaker 1: that somebody in their sixties is going to win a major.
Speaker 1: So he also said the ball is going to go
Speaker 1: like five hundred yards at the Masters this year. So
Speaker 1: I don't know, but Adam Scott and Sergio to me
Speaker 1: are the two guys that if you just look at
Speaker 1: ball strikers and not just ball strike not just like
Speaker 1: okay driving range hitters, but also winners globally global winners
Speaker 1: like have won everywhere for a long time. They're the
Speaker 1: two to me that really stand out ash as like
Speaker 1: their career needs one more major to really kind of
Speaker 1: make sense. Yeah, I would agree with that, And I
Speaker 1: think like Adam Scott, you you look at his game
Speaker 1: and it's still a game that for a week, you know,
Speaker 1: he's not going to be in it every week.
Speaker 2: He's not a top ten player anymore. I don't think
Speaker 2: that's but he certainly has the capabilities to win one
Speaker 2: of these, And I think, like what's interesting is like
Speaker 2: a top ten player week in week out. I think
Speaker 2: you can make an argument that in terms of majors,
Speaker 2: he probably is like a top fifteen player no matter what,
Speaker 2: top twenty player, just from from the sense of what
Speaker 2: he can do and what he has done at majors
Speaker 2: and how his game works. What do you what do
Speaker 2: you got next?
Speaker 1: I was just looking at his finishes. He's he doesn't
Speaker 1: have do you know when his last top ten in
Speaker 1: a major is by the way, wildgo hasn't been pretty
Speaker 1: twenty nineteen Bell Reeve. The year after that, twenty nineteen
Speaker 1: US Open. Where was twenty nineteen? Was that pebble?
Speaker 2: Yeah, pebble Woodland.
Speaker 1: It's a long time. My next thing is your boy
Speaker 1: Jordan Speith, this is this is his best major? HPOY. Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean you've talked about him a lot. This is
Speaker 1: his best major championship. I think that. I think when
Speaker 1: people think of Jordan Speed, it's very easy to run
Speaker 1: to Augusta, run to the Masters, run to everything that
Speaker 1: he's done there, which makes sense, right, He's one one,
Speaker 1: he probably should have two, maybe could have three, just
Speaker 1: based on the way he's played there. But the reality
Speaker 1: of that of Speed is that over the course of
Speaker 1: his career, the Open has been really his best major.
Speaker 1: You know, even when he was playing badly back in
Speaker 1: twenties eighteen nineteen twenty, he was still like top twenty
Speaker 1: in this in this major championship, like he's been And
Speaker 1: it makes since he explained this a couple of years
Speaker 1: ago at Royal St. George's, I think the quote was like,
Speaker 1: you're not just hitting driving range shots at Palm Springs, right,
Speaker 1: you have It engages the creativity of your mind. And
Speaker 1: that's where I think he said, like, when I'm living
Speaker 1: externally rather than internally, that's when I'm at my best,
Speaker 1: Which makes total sense because if you watch Jordan's p
Speaker 1: for ten minutes, you're like, yeah, that guy needs to
Speaker 1: not be in his own head, and this tournament forces
Speaker 1: him out of it and allows him to play with
Speaker 1: a freedom that I don't think he plays with at
Speaker 1: the Travelers or the RBC Heritage or you know some
Speaker 1: of these other places the guys go to. So I
Speaker 1: just this, to me, annually is his best chance to
Speaker 1: win a major. He could tie Rory if he wins it.
Speaker 1: He's not particularly playing great golf, but again, I just
Speaker 1: don't know how much it matters how well he specifically
Speaker 1: is playing coming into this tournament.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would agree that this is this in in Augusta,
Speaker 2: they profile for him, right, especially with with the way
Speaker 2: the PGA and in the in the US Open of
Speaker 2: historically set it up, and you see the skills rewarded.
Speaker 2: You know, I just spent it's spent a long time.
Speaker 2: That's that would be my my my concern, right, it's
Speaker 2: just uh, you know, spent a long time, and I
Speaker 2: think he's like a dramatically different person and player, uh
Speaker 2: than he used.
Speaker 1: To be, right.
Speaker 2: I think that's the the unique thing about golf, right,
Speaker 2: is that it is somewhat about athleticism, somewhat about a technique,
Speaker 2: and somewhat about the mental side of the game, And
Speaker 2: that's the one that is so vulnerable, right, And I
Speaker 2: don't know, I I would love to see it.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: He obviously he brings brings a popularity and just a
Speaker 2: his it's it's fun a watch right like it is,
Speaker 2: it's it's a it's an exhilarating form of golf because
Speaker 2: of there's a certain relatability with his game and and
Speaker 2: craziness that I think, like any any average joke can
Speaker 2: see in it. But I, uh, you know, I just
Speaker 2: I wonder, I wonder, and I it'd be great to see.
Speaker 2: But I just always go back to like, is have
Speaker 2: we seen the best Jordan Speith?
Speaker 1: And is there?
Speaker 2: Can you get it back?
Speaker 1: I think what's interesting about what you just said is
Speaker 1: that it almost and this is everything I look at.
Speaker 1: Patrick Carrington's quote at Kiowa is like this sort of
Speaker 1: the source quote for talking about a lot of the
Speaker 1: psychoanalysis stuff, like you know, like what he said there.
Speaker 2: I just like experience. Experience, isn't it all? It's cracked
Speaker 2: up to me to be with experience, you lose innocence.
Speaker 1: I believe this. Yeah, And it's just like the perfect
Speaker 1: way to describe so much Harrington talk. So I know
Speaker 1: he might win, I might pick him from my one
Speaker 1: and done. But the thing with speed, or not just
Speaker 1: with speed, but with anybody, it's like, as you evolve
Speaker 1: as a person, because we talk about these guys not
Speaker 1: just as players but also as people. Right, as you
Speaker 1: evolve as a person, it can work against you because
Speaker 1: you're becoming a different person than you were three years ago,
Speaker 1: five years ago, or ten years ago. And whether it's
Speaker 1: noticeable or not, it's probably it probably isn't noticeable in
Speaker 1: a lot of ways because it's a daily thing. Right.
Speaker 1: I think about your evolution as a person from before
Speaker 1: you were married to now being married and having a
Speaker 1: kid and having a business and all these different things,
Speaker 1: Like you're such a different person than you were ten
Speaker 1: years ago, and that can like really affect the way
Speaker 1: that you think about everything. And the one thing that
Speaker 1: Tiger never really he did which worked against him as
Speaker 1: a person, but for him as a player, He didn't
Speaker 1: really evolve as a person. He was kind of just
Speaker 1: like the twenty year old dude for twenty years. Well,
Speaker 1: you could make the argument that when he did evolve,
Speaker 1: when his world came crashing down, is when he became beatable.
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, like it it kind of there's there's Tiger
Speaker 2: Part one and Tiger Part two and part two. You know,
Speaker 2: after the fire hydrant is not what the level of
Speaker 2: dominance Part one was. And obviously there are injuries and
Speaker 2: all other all sorts of other things. But you know
Speaker 2: that I think that moment probably dramatically changed him as
Speaker 2: a person.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And it doesn't mean you can't win or that
Speaker 1: you shouldn't evolve as a person. But I don't know
Speaker 1: that we give it enough credit in terms of the
Speaker 1: way that we think about guys. You know, and Rory,
Speaker 1: Rory said this, He's like feels like I'm chasing my
Speaker 1: first major. Like we give so much credit to like, oh,
Speaker 1: he won four and it was like that was like
Speaker 1: a three lifetimes ago, you know. And it doesn't mean
Speaker 1: he can't do it, but it's it's a very it's
Speaker 1: just such a different thing, especially when you have people
Speaker 1: like speed like Rory like most of the top guys
Speaker 1: right now that really try to evolve as people and
Speaker 1: become different people than they used to be.
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Speaker 1: All Right, I got I got a couple of ways
Speaker 1: I could go off of this by remaining.
Speaker 2: Three things all fit off this, but you brought them up.
Speaker 2: So let's, uh, let's talk a little bit about Rory here.
Speaker 2: I think, I really I like you talk about evolution
Speaker 2: and different aspects of life, and I think Rory has
Speaker 2: uh in recent months moved into a new mentality of
Speaker 2: how his spot in the professional game. I think obviously
Speaker 2: he was a torch carrier, he's still very involved, but
Speaker 2: where he kind of took on this this very out
Speaker 2: front leadership role for the PGA Tour. I think a
Speaker 2: lot of his energy was devoted to pleasing people, really
Speaker 2: being you know, the voice of the tour, holding things
Speaker 2: together through tumultuous time, but also like appealing to his peers, right,
Speaker 2: and I think over the last with what's happened with
Speaker 2: the deal and kind of some of the trust things
Speaker 2: that have gone on with players and and everything, I
Speaker 2: think he's kind of in a new new type of
Speaker 2: headspace and you can see it with the way he's
Speaker 2: he's handling media since since the framework agreement was put
Speaker 2: in place, where it's it's short, the topics are are
Speaker 2: stick to golf type topics for the most part, I
Speaker 2: think he's got an edge about him that he hasn't
Speaker 2: had in a while, and I really like it. I
Speaker 2: think that we saw him play really great golf at LACC.
Speaker 2: It was it was reminiscent of of the old course
Speaker 2: last year.
Speaker 1: But like.
Speaker 2: His putter went really cold on the weekend and he
Speaker 2: had opportunities. I think like that was more of a
Speaker 2: fact of like you look at it and it's like wow,
Speaker 2: like two putts go in. He had lots of chances
Speaker 2: it's as completely different story. And obviously Wyndham Clark made
Speaker 2: made the putts, but like that that was a situation
Speaker 2: where Rory probably could have won that tournament by four
Speaker 2: or five if if he if his putter wasn't ice cold.
Speaker 2: And I just like, I like his mentality. I think
Speaker 2: he's hitting driving ball great, which is an important thing
Speaker 2: to do out here, and we know that, like he's
Speaker 2: just on a different level with the driver. I think
Speaker 2: that was something that I took away from from from
Speaker 2: la Is just like how he can you know, long
Speaker 2: players on the tour, he's routinely twenty past him. I
Speaker 2: just think that mentally he's in the best place that
Speaker 2: he's been in a long time with his golf game.
Speaker 2: And I think that this is, uh, this is probably
Speaker 2: setting up for a great week for him.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I think what you said is correct,
Speaker 1: and I think people will give a lot of I
Speaker 1: guess this is what I was trying to say earlier.
Speaker 1: People will give a lot of credit to Oh, he
Speaker 1: won here in twenty fourteen, and you're like, well, that
Speaker 1: matters a lot less than how he's like the fact
Speaker 1: that he's playing very well right now, you know, like
Speaker 1: it doesn't. It's a fun storyline. It doesn't. How the
Speaker 1: fact that he won here in twenty fourteen doesn't really
Speaker 1: affect whether or not he's going to win in twenty three.
Speaker 1: I think the thing the thing for me that guy
Speaker 1: he hit it so good in La like it to me.
Speaker 1: It was so different than that final round at the
Speaker 1: old course.
Speaker 2: He wasn't as good.
Speaker 1: No, he hit it okay, but he had all these
Speaker 1: like thirty foot putts and eighteen foot putts and just
Speaker 1: just a lot of kind of nothing. And I didn't
Speaker 1: feel like he hit it as tight as he hit
Speaker 1: it those last couple of days in LA. I mean,
Speaker 1: that was just like a show, and it was. It
Speaker 1: was awesome to watch Andy. The thing that really stood
Speaker 1: out for me with him on that final day was,
Speaker 1: and I had not heard this in the last nine years,
Speaker 1: he said, when I win my next major right in
Speaker 1: the in the in the press conference afterwards, and I
Speaker 1: had not heard him talk so definitively about the fact
Speaker 1: that he's gonna win another major, And I thought that
Speaker 1: that was a real it was a real shift in
Speaker 1: his at least from my perspective, for where he's where
Speaker 1: he's at in his career because I think he this
Speaker 1: is it's so weird I think for people to hear.
Speaker 1: But I think he struggles with I don't maybe not
Speaker 1: self confidence, but just like he has to be reminded, hey,
Speaker 1: you're the I mean it's the it's the JP quote
Speaker 1: where he said you're Rory Fan McElroy, right. He has
Speaker 1: to be reminded of that almost, and I think there's
Speaker 1: some like self awareness in there that is like, again,
Speaker 1: a good thing is a human but you know, sometimes
Speaker 1: bad as a player because you have to have somebody
Speaker 1: reminding you, hey, you're Rory. You're Rory. You're Rory. You're
Speaker 1: one of the twenty five thirty best guys of all time.
Speaker 1: And I think he I think he believes that right
Speaker 1: now and honestly, the way he's playing at the Scottish
Speaker 1: I I honestly would not be surprised if he won
Speaker 1: the Open by like five strokes.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm golf at every level. I say this to
Speaker 2: like people that tell me how they suck at golf,
Speaker 2: Like before, I'm like, listen, like everybody at every level
Speaker 2: goes through periods where they think they suck golf. And
Speaker 2: I think that's very true of the best players in
Speaker 2: the world. It's very true of people like Rory Brooks
Speaker 2: was very open about it on Netflix, you know. But
Speaker 2: I think, like one of the other things, just to
Speaker 2: kind of distill what I was getting at earlier a
Speaker 2: little bit more, I think to be the best player
Speaker 2: in the world, you have to be extraordinarily selfish with
Speaker 2: your time, yep. And I think that that's something that
Speaker 2: has shifted with Rory, is that he's being more selfish,
Speaker 2: more judicious. He's not answering questions about everything he doesn't.
Speaker 2: I think he cares less about what other people think
Speaker 2: of him than ever before. And I think that while
Speaker 2: might not be the best trait, you know, for life,
Speaker 2: always it is the best trait to play the best golf,
Speaker 2: to be the best golfer in the world. And I
Speaker 2: think that it's an edge. It is a is a
Speaker 2: important asset to have on the golf course.
Speaker 1: Sean Zach and I were talking after the PGA because
Speaker 1: obviously golf media's favorite thing to do is to dissect
Speaker 1: why Rory's not winning majors, and we were joking about
Speaker 1: how he should just impress conferences. Say you know what,
Speaker 1: Andy like f you, I'm not answering that question, you know,
Speaker 1: and just start like just start going off on people
Speaker 1: and how that he would never do that obviously, but
Speaker 1: in a in a way that's a little bit of
Speaker 1: like his sort of where his mentality has gone a
Speaker 1: little bit. I think, do you do you think it's
Speaker 1: the is it the merger or the whatever, don't call
Speaker 1: it a merger. Is it the deal that has pushed
Speaker 1: him in that direction? Do you think?
Speaker 2: I I'm not sure. I you know, I think I
Speaker 2: think probably probably that I think that has something to
Speaker 2: do with it. I imagine I imagine that there was
Speaker 2: you know, he obviously was somebody that was was telling
Speaker 2: people to be loyal, and I imagine I imagine that
Speaker 2: after that happened, there was people that were upset with
Speaker 2: him and and like you know, felt betrayed by him
Speaker 2: and the tour, and and I think, like you know,
Speaker 2: he was doing looking out forever for the best interests
Speaker 2: of the sport, right, And I think I imagine that getting
Speaker 2: heaps of blame placed on you, or any any blame
Speaker 2: you know, from your peers, would would make you feel
Speaker 2: pretty you know. And I think the media was tough
Speaker 2: on him too, To be completely honest, some some media, right,
Speaker 2: Like I think there was you know, there's a lot
Speaker 2: of narratives. I just i'd imagined that that was a
Speaker 2: that I think that probably had the biggest impact of
Speaker 2: I don't you know. I wouldn't say like he's dramatically
Speaker 2: different human being at this point, but I noticed there's
Speaker 2: an edge to him that that hasn't I don't think
Speaker 2: it's been around.
Speaker 1: Would you would you say tough? Do you mean critical? Yeah?
Speaker 2: I think there was there's some criticism. I think there was.
Speaker 2: There's I think there's just that that like look at
Speaker 2: look at this, like you know, live guys win type yeah, right,
Speaker 2: And and I think like we don't know. I think
Speaker 2: if we learned anything on this week was like we
Speaker 2: have no clue how it's going to shake out.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I do think he does seem he seems hungrier
Speaker 1: for a major than perhaps he's been at different times
Speaker 1: in the past nine years. And I think that that's
Speaker 1: it doesn't mean you're the win, but it's it's meaningful,
Speaker 1: it's important.
Speaker 2: The other event that happened right in this period that
Speaker 2: we haven't talked about is the Brooks PGA win which passed.
Speaker 2: You know, he doesn't you know Brooks has more majors
Speaker 2: than him too. I think there's also probably that has
Speaker 2: to be a factor in here. Like I imagine he
Speaker 2: probably like five years ago, never imagined a peer passing
Speaker 2: him in major championships other than I do.
Speaker 1: Like I we don't we never get this in golf,
Speaker 1: or we get it. We do get it, we get
Speaker 1: it very rarely, but two sort of generational major winners
Speaker 1: kind of going at it for a for a window.
Speaker 1: If we got that, we if we got that with
Speaker 1: Brooks and Rory for the next five years, if that
Speaker 1: was like their window to kind of trade a couple
Speaker 1: of majors back and forth, that would be awesome.
Speaker 2: There's gonna be somebody new, you know, it's gonna pop
Speaker 2: in there for sure.
Speaker 1: But I mean their consistency, Like just look at their
Speaker 1: consistency in majors, Like how often both of those guys have.
Speaker 1: I mean Rory's like I think he's like top ten
Speaker 1: and nineteen of his last thirty three or something like that,
Speaker 1: thirty four Brooks similar numbers, maybe even better than that.
Speaker 1: I mean, they're just they're always there. There, there will
Speaker 1: always be new guys. But I just think it would
Speaker 1: be awesome to see to see those those two guys
Speaker 1: go back and forth. We give it another guy that's
Speaker 1: probably gonna win. Yes, several majors we got.
Speaker 2: I was about to go there too, and I think
Speaker 2: we got the same name here, so I've guessed it's
Speaker 2: another Longhorn.
Speaker 1: It is, yes, And I don't know that anybody has
Speaker 1: ever like this. This to me would be one of
Speaker 1: the great you don't want to say wasted seasons because
Speaker 1: he won the.
Speaker 2: Play exactly what mine. This is exactly what mine is.
Speaker 1: Yes, he won the players, he won Phoenix. It's not
Speaker 1: a waste. He's been extraordinary this year. He's he's he
Speaker 1: could win all the playoff events. He could go five
Speaker 1: and oh at the Ryder Cup. I don't know. But
Speaker 1: if you don't hammer out a major in a year
Speaker 1: when you're hitting it at a level, that's like just
Speaker 1: you're looking to the side and it's only Tiger. I mean,
Speaker 1: he just he has I feel like he has to capitalize.
Speaker 1: He doesn't have to, but it would be a it
Speaker 1: would be a disappointment, I think when he looks back
Speaker 1: to not capitalize on one of the great Tee de
Speaker 1: Green seasons of the last twenty years.
Speaker 2: My title for this one is Scottie and expectations, And
Speaker 2: I think the toughest thing to fight in golf is expectations.
Speaker 2: And I can't, I cannot this. This is going I
Speaker 2: think this is going to be one of the toughest
Speaker 2: tournaments mentally for him to play in his entire career.
Speaker 2: Because of what you just laid out, he is having
Speaker 2: statistically one of the greatest seasons we've ever seen in
Speaker 2: the modern era. And if that isn't punctuated with a major,
Speaker 2: I mean, it's like it's honestly like Otani and Mike
Speaker 2: Trout just toiling away in Anaheim where they can't field
Speaker 2: a winning team, and it's like, Mike Trout is one
Speaker 2: of the greatest baseball players of his generation and he's
Speaker 2: never played a meaningful game, you know, and like it's
Speaker 2: it goes Categorically, I don't think it's that level because
Speaker 2: this is just one year, but like, this is one
Speaker 2: of the greatest displays of consistency. It's everything everything you
Speaker 2: want out of a superstar athlete performance in a year
Speaker 2: where he's just been relevant every week, He's teed it
Speaker 2: up effectively, and if it doesn't include a major, it's
Speaker 2: it's mind boggling, especially considering the chances he's had, you know,
Speaker 2: at the last two. Really, yeah, it is, And I
Speaker 2: think it doesn't.
Speaker 1: It's not the end of the world. But I I
Speaker 1: think it's easy when you're in the middle of something
Speaker 1: to say, oh, this thing that's happening is going to
Speaker 1: last for a long time. And the reality is that
Speaker 1: it's not like you don't.
Speaker 2: A long off season.
Speaker 1: Yeah you don't get it's not like you get better
Speaker 1: from here or nobody ever has right like it. I again,
Speaker 1: like I the reason I talk about this a lot,
Speaker 1: whether it's on my podcast or Twitter or whatever, and
Speaker 1: people are like, we get it, and I'm like, I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you do, because people are so
Speaker 1: win and loss influenced in golf that I think sometimes
Speaker 1: when you don't win, they can the people just can't
Speaker 1: see past not winning. And it's like, no, this is
Speaker 1: like Tiger in two thousand and eight or Tiger in
Speaker 1: six or whatever whatever Tiger year you want to pick,
Speaker 1: and there's like no other name to put next to it,
Speaker 1: like it's it's only that. And so I think you
Speaker 1: just you don't get that window forever you might get
Speaker 1: it for two years. You might get it for five
Speaker 1: I don't know, but it doesn't last forever. And if
Speaker 1: we've if we've learned. You talk about this a lot
Speaker 1: with DJ and Rory, Like, guys don't win majors. It's
Speaker 1: very rare that guys win majors for a long time, right,
Speaker 1: It's usually it's usually compressed. Look at Arnold Palmer, look
Speaker 1: at Ben Hogan, look at yeah, all these guys they
Speaker 1: win majors in a three four, five year period. And
Speaker 1: if you don't do it, and some of it's luck
Speaker 1: and some of it is just a couples whatever, whatever
Speaker 1: it is, that time you never get that back. You know,
Speaker 1: Scotty Scheffer changes and he's Jordan's speeth in five years
Speaker 1: and he doesn't get back what he had. And so
Speaker 1: I just I think this is a it's a really
Speaker 1: important major for Scotty Scheffer's career.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I think like one of the just to
Speaker 2: you know, add one thing here is like we when
Speaker 2: the schedule changed and it went to this extremely condensed
Speaker 2: major season. And I say extremely condensed, they cut a
Speaker 2: month out. One of the things that you you looked
Speaker 2: at it and you saw is like, wow, somebody could
Speaker 2: really get hot and go on a run and knock
Speaker 2: these out, Like you know this, this is an advantage
Speaker 2: to a hot hand. And what's crazy, especially with the
Speaker 2: with the other elevated events in here, is that like
Speaker 2: Shuffler's had the hot hand. And like it's hard to
Speaker 2: say this because he won the players and he won
Speaker 2: one waste management, but it doesn't feel like he's really
Speaker 2: capitalized on the hot hand. Yeah, and this, you know,
Speaker 2: it's you know, wins are I like, I really really
Speaker 2: really really admire. I think consistency is the most underrated
Speaker 2: stat Like I think there's there there needs to be
Speaker 2: some form of consistency. It's what every great golfer is
Speaker 2: trying to achieve when they go through changes, is like
Speaker 2: how do I become more consistently great? Right, That's the
Speaker 2: thing that you chase with golf. Every golfer at every
Speaker 2: level is chasing it. Every golfer, Like I can't tell
Speaker 2: you how many times somebody's like I shot my best
Speaker 2: round and then the next round I shot like ninety five.
Speaker 2: You know, it's like that's you know what what everybody's
Speaker 2: chasing is, like how do I become more consistent? And
Speaker 2: like the consistencies there, but like to have so you know,
Speaker 2: the players feels forever ago and to have so few
Speaker 2: big moments, to have so no wins really in the
Speaker 2: meat of the season is crazy.
Speaker 1: Don't you think it's weird in golf that inconsistency is
Speaker 1: almost disproportionately rewarded compared to other sports. It's absolutely insane.
Speaker 1: And I don't know what the what the solution is
Speaker 1: because winning is so incredibly hard. Yeah, yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: it's it's it's Sandy Lyles's career, right, He's got four
Speaker 1: top tens at majors but two major wins.
Speaker 2: Well, and this is not a shot. I am friends
Speaker 2: with ZB. This is not a shot at ZB. It's
Speaker 2: more of a comment about the system. ZB got inside
Speaker 2: the top one hundred in the world rankings because of
Speaker 2: his performance of travelers stacked Field. Yeah Field, you know,
Speaker 2: best best finish of his career. But like he went
Speaker 2: from way down to the top one hundred, and it
Speaker 2: is all based off of you know, one week.
Speaker 1: Right, yeah, And I mean you look at so take
Speaker 1: take Sandy Lyle and Sergio Garcia or Adam Scott. Take
Speaker 1: Adam Scott and Sandy Lyle. You would never you would No,
Speaker 1: no rational person in golf would ever say Sandy Lesle
Speaker 1: was a better golfer than Adam Scott, right and.
Speaker 2: Yet and yeah, after saying yeah, I.
Speaker 1: Don't I picked a bad There's other people that you
Speaker 1: could pick, and yet Sandy Isle has more major wins
Speaker 1: than Adam Scott. It's just like, I don't think the
Speaker 1: answer is discounting major wins because they matter a ton.
Speaker 1: I think the answer is like, and I don't know
Speaker 1: how to promote it more. We've seen this in baseball,
Speaker 1: the evolution of the way people have viewed statistics, right
Speaker 1: where now a pitcher a pitcher's wins don't It doesn't
Speaker 1: mean as much as it did one hundred years ago,
Speaker 1: and it probably shouldn't because you're trying to measure performance
Speaker 1: and not or you're trying to measure process and not
Speaker 1: necessarily outcome. And I think that there needs to be
Speaker 1: some better literacy around, like fan interaction with golf success
Speaker 1: or statistics or whatever. And I just don't know when
Speaker 1: that's going to come about, because it's just so wins
Speaker 1: and losses dependent right now that I don't know. I
Speaker 1: just wish, I wish there was more literacy around that Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know what it is, but there is something there. It's, uh,
Speaker 1: what do you have?
Speaker 2: One left?
Speaker 1: One left? We actually kind of talked about this at
Speaker 1: the beginning with Padrig but I think there's real Ryder
Speaker 1: Cup implications at this at this Open championship. And is
Speaker 1: it the biggest story of the week. No, but it's
Speaker 1: kind of the last chance for a it's it's it's
Speaker 1: the opportunity. Like if Taylor Goog finishes in the top five,
Speaker 1: I think he becomes a real Ryder Cup possibility, And
Speaker 1: if he doesn't, then I don't think he is. And
Speaker 1: I don't we know he's we know he's ready for
Speaker 1: right well, I mean he's played in several so he
Speaker 1: he will be he will be prepared. But I think
Speaker 1: especially I was reading the Data Golf newsletter this week
Speaker 1: and it was really good because he was talking about
Speaker 1: how there's clarity on the European side other than that
Speaker 1: bottom four that we talked about, but there's actually increasingly
Speaker 1: less clarity on the American side. The closer the closer
Speaker 1: we get, and so it's a big week for.
Speaker 2: Your What if DJ finished the second I think I
Speaker 2: think he would.
Speaker 1: I think that would put him pretty close to being
Speaker 1: on the team.
Speaker 2: I do like a top five from DJ, Yeah, you do.
Speaker 1: I think that, And I think that would be fair
Speaker 1: because I think he went five and hour whistling straights,
Speaker 1: you like, well liked, Yeah, And it's it's like, Okay,
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, you're trying to beat
Speaker 1: Europe for the first time in thirty years in Europe.
Speaker 1: Do you want to have taken Denny McCarthy over there
Speaker 1: and gone down? Or do you want to take DJ
Speaker 1: over there and have gone down? You know, I think
Speaker 1: I think that's a pretty easy answer at the end
Speaker 1: of the day. But I just think there's a lot
Speaker 1: like there's some Sam Burns implications Max Holme, but there's
Speaker 1: a lot of guys that are kinda you don't really
Speaker 1: know what to make of them right now.
Speaker 2: What in your mind, what has to happen for JT
Speaker 2: not to get picked or is he a lock, like.
Speaker 1: He has to have surgery or something.
Speaker 2: Right, he's a lock no matter what. He could miss
Speaker 2: the cut in every event the rest of the year.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it doesn't matter. It would be I think I
Speaker 1: tweeted this a couple of weeks Ago'd be like not
Speaker 1: taking Poulter. If he's upright, he does he rubs those guys.
Speaker 1: I'll never forget.
Speaker 2: I was just walking walking from one hole to another hole,
Speaker 2: and I ran into some of the euro team at
Speaker 2: Whistling Straits and one of them was like, did you
Speaker 2: see what JT did? And I was like, yeah, I did.
Speaker 2: He was like, the guy was very mad of this.
Speaker 2: He was, I mean, this was hours after it happened.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Oh. The the way that they talk about him
Speaker 1: is like it is, it's it's tough, like there's some
Speaker 1: real animosity, not not like as a person, but some
Speaker 1: real like competitive animosity that for that week. I think
Speaker 1: I think tron At at Whistling Straits called him he's
Speaker 1: like a duke point guard, which is great, so perfect,
Speaker 1: it's so perfect. But to answer your question, yes, I
Speaker 1: think JT, if he's able to swing a golf club
Speaker 1: is going to be on the team. I don't I
Speaker 1: don't know if you. I think whether I agree with
Speaker 1: that or not, it's kind of irrelevant. I think the
Speaker 1: names that you have to watch in terms of like
Speaker 1: that are agents of chaos for the American team. Kurt
Speaker 1: Kitty Yama, right, is he playing well? He hasn't been
Speaker 1: playing well, he's playing bad. But if he starts playing
Speaker 1: well again, right, Harris English has been really good lately. Yeah,
Speaker 1: But then a.
Speaker 2: Guy like Tony Tony fen Now who's way out that
Speaker 2: like if he if he has a great week, yeah,
Speaker 2: or a great couple of weeks, like you know, these
Speaker 2: are the guys that then all of a sudden throw
Speaker 2: in Jeopardy like then you. I mean like I don't.
Speaker 2: I can't see a world that Ricky's not on the team,
Speaker 2: no point no.
Speaker 1: But I think there's some real like, Okay, in a vacuum,
Speaker 1: do you do you if you take the names out
Speaker 1: of it, are you taking Russell Henley or or or
Speaker 1: Max Homa. I think you would take Russell Henley. But
Speaker 1: you can't take the names out of it. You can't
Speaker 1: erase the fact that Max one whatever four matches at
Speaker 1: the President's Cup last year. You can't. There's just so
Speaker 1: many different factors that go into it. And I think
Speaker 1: I think there's some real like Ryder Cup implications at
Speaker 1: this open for five or eight guys on the American side.
Speaker 2: I think, like you look at the top nine points,
Speaker 2: there's no way if you're in the top nine points
Speaker 2: you get bypassed, yep, and then from there it's it's
Speaker 2: your JT's doesn't seem like it's going to be in
Speaker 2: that top nine and Ricky's not gonna is. Ricky could
Speaker 2: get all the way up there, but like, you want
Speaker 2: one of those two guys because they are as are
Speaker 2: going to be on the team. Effectively, you really want
Speaker 2: those two guys to get into the top nine.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So I think just from a political standpoint, as
Speaker 1: the captain, you wouldn't You're right, you wouldn't stray outside
Speaker 1: of the top nine. I think it's easy for us
Speaker 1: to look at stroke skinned or world ranking or whatever,
Speaker 1: but politically you wouldn't. You there has there's more volatility
Speaker 1: this year, as I Johnson was talking about this, because
Speaker 1: the elevated events offer so much money, right, and so
Speaker 1: there's more there's more noise because that's what they go on,
Speaker 1: is how much money you've earned that translates into points.
Speaker 1: I don't know what the FedEx uh exchange there is,
Speaker 1: but uh, you're not gonna go out of the top nine.
Speaker 1: So if you have guys that are outside of it,
Speaker 1: like JT and Ricky, then you really only have one
Speaker 1: spot that you're trying to.
Speaker 2: Pick, right, Yeah, basically, I mean that's the thing right
Speaker 2: where it gets tricky, right, I just think the discourse.
Speaker 2: Let's just say Keegan doesn't play well, but he just
Speaker 2: only falls just to nine.
Speaker 1: Yeah right.
Speaker 2: You imagine the discourse around like Keegan Bradley not getting picked,
Speaker 2: you know, when he was ninth in points and somebody
Speaker 2: who's like in DJ getting picked or Taylor Groose getting picked.
Speaker 1: Well, that's what I mean. That is to spot it's
Speaker 1: political suicide. Is the cow right like you You're not
Speaker 1: you wouldn't do that. And so.
Speaker 2: Although ZJ doesn't seem to me like a risk taker.
Speaker 1: Really just I might be I might be miscasting him,
Speaker 1: but he just doesn't seem to be like it doesn't
Speaker 1: feel like me like he's going to be somebody that's
Speaker 1: trying to you know, the big miss step out the
Speaker 1: big mites, don't scream, you know, take take risks and
Speaker 1: put yourself out there. Uh yeah. So that that's my
Speaker 1: last one is just on both sides. I mean we
Speaker 1: were joking about it. If Potter Carrington finishes in the
Speaker 1: top ten, I think you kind of playing your way
Speaker 1: onto the Ryder Cup team. I mean legitate, like take
Speaker 1: take his name, take his age out of it. You're
Speaker 1: just I don't know. I think I think that's.
Speaker 2: I can't do it because he didn't play in this
Speaker 2: week senior major players. So, uh, Ludwig's gonna be on
Speaker 2: the team, right, I don't think. So he's got to
Speaker 2: do something. But I like, get he's talent.
Speaker 1: I get he's talented, but like, like, what has he done?
Speaker 2: Listen. I I'm all aboard the Ludwig hype train. But like,
Speaker 2: at the same time, there needs to be a high
Speaker 2: finish to glom onto. Here has to be one. He's
Speaker 2: not in the Open, is he.
Speaker 1: I don't think so, yeah, And I like, okay, let
Speaker 1: me just like run down the finishes. T for it.
Speaker 2: John Deere? Is that is that where you're gonna hang on?
Speaker 1: I mean, STEP's gonna get on the team from his
Speaker 1: John Deere performance.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but there's a bout Sepstraca is a top thirty
Speaker 2: player in the world. You know, Ludvig's three oh three.
Speaker 2: I mean, so Rocket Mortgage T forty, Travelers T twenty four,
Speaker 2: RBC Canadian Open T twenty five, Valspar T sixty one,
Speaker 2: Arnold Palmer T twenty four, Hero Dubai Classic T seventy.
Speaker 2: Those are his professional wins or professional starts. He didn't
Speaker 2: win NCAA's. He won a lot of like college tournaments.
Speaker 1: But I just.
Speaker 2: Unless he does something I don't, you gotta do it
Speaker 2: at the highest level and then you're gonna throw him
Speaker 2: in the Ryder Cup. I get he's super talented. I'm
Speaker 2: all for injecting youth, but like Victor Hobland when he
Speaker 2: turned pro, had a better record, and I don't think
Speaker 2: he would be considered for the Ryder Cup. I was
Speaker 2: that a Ryder Cup year?
Speaker 1: That?
Speaker 2: Because No, wasn't there Matt Wolf. That wasn't a Ryder
Speaker 2: Cup here right, No.
Speaker 1: It was twenty nine. They turned pro after Pebble in
Speaker 1: twenty nineteen at the Travelers and the Ryder Cup year
Speaker 1: was twenty well it would have been twenty twenty. It
Speaker 1: ended up being twenty twenty one.
Speaker 2: So like with Hobland, for example, like I think the
Speaker 2: finishes were were pretty we're better than that. And if
Speaker 2: it was like he didn't even get his card like
Speaker 2: ludvig Aberg at this point, wouldn't under the old before
Speaker 2: PGA tour you changed, he wouldn't be getting his card.
Speaker 2: He'd be getting close to seven starts at this point
Speaker 2: and you'd be like, Okay, he's going to the corn
Speaker 2: Ferry Tour next year. Yeah, And I don't think you
Speaker 2: could put a player like that on the team unless no,
Speaker 2: he could win, he could win Windham and then win
Speaker 2: you know, a playoff event and like if he woulds
Speaker 2: wind him like that's a real conversation then right, Yeah,
Speaker 2: I think I don't think he's qualified for the playoffs. Like,
Speaker 2: I just don't think. I don't see how you could
Speaker 2: put him on the team.
Speaker 1: I think the counter is what we talked about earlier.
Speaker 1: There's there's just no nothing going on at the bottom.
Speaker 1: And I think the other things, like you look at
Speaker 1: some of those finishes he has. He's shooting like it's
Speaker 1: very inconsistent, which is not It can work in your
Speaker 1: favor at a Ryder Cup where you only play match
Speaker 1: or two matches or whatever, and so if you have
Speaker 1: a flash and you're I mean, they're not gonna pick
Speaker 1: Luvig and play in like four matches, right, Like they
Speaker 1: would play him in a couple and see if they
Speaker 1: can get I think he's gonna be on the team.
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna see if they can get something
Speaker 1: out of him. When you put him in on that
Speaker 1: stage and your top eight's kind of taken care of
Speaker 1: and you're up, like your ceiling with him is just
Speaker 1: so much higher than it is with the Aaron Ryes
Speaker 1: and Alex Norns of the world that I think it.
Speaker 1: I think you look at that ceiling and and and
Speaker 1: pick that over everybody else having a higher four so
Speaker 1: much so.
Speaker 2: Aaron Ryce Slander, Yeah, he's just like the guy that
Speaker 2: I get. He's stuck in your head. Hey, all right,
Speaker 2: my fifth one. You know we talked Ryder cup now
Speaker 2: it's uh, we've we've mentioned him. Ricky Fowler.
Speaker 1: We do this all the time with Tiger and Phil
Speaker 1: and we were like, is this his best.
Speaker 2: Chance for a major championship?
Speaker 1: Left?
Speaker 2: Right is Rickyes? Is this Ricky's best chance for a
Speaker 2: major ever? He's playing arguably like as good of golf
Speaker 2: as he's played in the last seven he not arguably
Speaker 2: he's playing the best golf he's played in the last
Speaker 2: seven years of his entire career. He's not super long.
Speaker 2: So I think that opened while he contended at lac
Speaker 2: that was an atypical US Open course I think like
Speaker 2: the US Open and the PGA doesn't really fit his
Speaker 2: game great at this point in his career and with
Speaker 2: where the game's gone, and that leaves the Masters and this,
Speaker 2: and I think like the Open is probably best suited
Speaker 2: for his game as a course that he almost won at.
Speaker 2: And I just like, do is there another level of
Speaker 2: Ricky follower than what we've seen this year? Is he
Speaker 2: going to get better next year?
Speaker 1: Is?
Speaker 2: I guess the bet is like, is he a top
Speaker 2: ten player in the world or is this year kind
Speaker 2: of a one year thing? And does he settle into
Speaker 2: being a top thirty player?
Speaker 1: Yeah? That's that's interesting because the one area of his
Speaker 1: game that hasn't come all the way back. I think,
Speaker 1: if you look statistically is his is his driver. And
Speaker 1: as guys get older, they typically don't become better and
Speaker 1: better drivers, right, And so I don't know that he's
Speaker 1: going to be a top ten guy with the consistency
Speaker 1: that he was at age twenty four, twenty five, twenty six,
Speaker 1: But I so, yeah, I think to answer your question,
Speaker 1: I think he's more of a top twenty five type
Speaker 1: guy than I'm like a top ten guy. But that
Speaker 1: plays into what like, are you asking is this his
Speaker 1: best chance ever going into like like the week, like
Speaker 1: going into the event.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean.
Speaker 1: It depends on how you feel about the innocence and
Speaker 1: experience thing, right, because I think there's a there's a
Speaker 1: side of Fower, that there's a facet of Ricky Fowler
Speaker 1: that did not exist eight years ago. Like he has
Speaker 1: some real I think maturity and depth that he didn't
Speaker 1: have before that most people don't have when they're twenty five.
Speaker 1: But I don't know if that works for him or
Speaker 1: against him in this instance, you know, m h.
Speaker 2: I just think that I don't know if he'll be
Speaker 2: he I think he's a first page favorite. I think
Speaker 2: if you rattled off your ten favorites, he's in the
Speaker 2: top ten.
Speaker 1: Ahead of Harrington or behind him.
Speaker 2: This is an episode about Padrick Harrington and the Open Championship,
Speaker 2: but first and foremost Padrick Harrington. I like, honestly, if
Speaker 2: you go down the favorite site, I think Scotti is
Speaker 2: number one, right, I think, uh then I would just
Speaker 2: I would probably go with the next three or Rory
Speaker 2: Brooks in in ram in some order, yep, some form
Speaker 2: of fashion at that point. At that point, like you
Speaker 2: get into the cam Smith you get in, like I
Speaker 2: think at that point, you're in like the Ricky zone,
Speaker 2: and I don't and I honestly don't think will ever
Speaker 2: be at another major where that that is where we're
Speaker 2: placing Ricky Fowler. In terms of of odds, I don't
Speaker 2: know what is like actual odds are, but they have
Speaker 2: to be right around there.
Speaker 1: Who do you think Ricky is more? Who do who
Speaker 1: of these three players do you think is most likely
Speaker 1: to win the Open? Ricky, Colin more Kala, and Victor Hoblin.
Speaker 2: I think, like the only one that I think, like
Speaker 2: Victor and Ricky right now would be the two that
Speaker 2: I would put over Morikawa. But like I think, I mean,
Speaker 2: I think that's a great question, right, And that's like
Speaker 2: your second tier of guys. Yeah, so I think he's
Speaker 2: like squarely, he's not, like he's not your top four,
Speaker 2: which I think are pretty undisputable, but he's the next
Speaker 2: group and I don't know if he'll ever get there
Speaker 2: again for a major, right, Like I think he's having
Speaker 2: he's just having a heater. He's on a heater. He's playing,
Speaker 2: you know, some of the best golf of his career.
Speaker 2: He's in a stratosphere in terms of the strokes game
Speaker 2: numbers that I never thought he would get back to.
Speaker 2: He's a top ten player in the world in the
Speaker 2: last six months.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's the best he's ever hit his irons statistically,
Speaker 1: I mean not, and it's not really that close, you know,
Speaker 1: and if you look at if you look at driver,
Speaker 1: it's actually one of the worst seasons he's ever had
Speaker 1: in terms of strokes gained, which you know, we talked
Speaker 1: about it in an Open championship can be it's not
Speaker 1: maybe as it's different than it is on the PGA Tour.
Speaker 1: So I don't I don't know how much you want
Speaker 1: to how much credence you want to give to that,
Speaker 1: but I do think that I think you're right. I
Speaker 1: think there's a case to be made that this is
Speaker 1: the best chance that Ricky Fower will ever have to
Speaker 1: win a major championship. That that doesn't mean that he's
Speaker 1: going like it could happen to where he loses this
Speaker 1: week and then wins the US Open three years from now,
Speaker 1: But that doesn't mean that his chance wasn't better going
Speaker 1: into this week.
Speaker 2: I think, yeah, like running into the tournament, yeah, like it,
Speaker 2: you know, has ever anything ever aligned better?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 2: And this is this could be a golf course too,
Speaker 2: where power is not super it's more about control. And
Speaker 2: this is these are all the things that I think
Speaker 2: can play into it, right, Like this is a golf
Speaker 2: course where it's about avoiding hazards, finding fair ways, you know,
Speaker 2: Like I just I think like links golf fits his game, right.
Speaker 2: It it brings the artistry, it brings the you know,
Speaker 2: it brings the intangibles like it's in it skews older.
Speaker 2: He would fit that, like he's right, he's thirty four. Yeah,
Speaker 2: the average age of winner's thirty four.
Speaker 1: Yep, him and him and Rory are both thirty four.
Speaker 1: I yeah, it's a really good point. And I think,
Speaker 1: you know, the thing I was thinking about after he
Speaker 1: wanted Detroit was with with a lot of guys, when
Speaker 1: they're when they're close to winning, close to winning, close
Speaker 1: to winning, and then they finally win, you can almost
Speaker 1: see the drop off coming. You can see the other
Speaker 1: side of the roller coaster, right, And it does not
Speaker 1: feel like that with him, you know. And and I
Speaker 1: was talking about this on my pod about how like
Speaker 1: it that felt like almost like a checkpoint, like there's
Speaker 1: there's more to be had. And I don't know if
Speaker 1: that means this Open or getting back to the top
Speaker 1: ten in the world or whatever he does at the
Speaker 1: Ryder Cup, but I don't That did not feel like
Speaker 1: the sort of end of a journey that he was
Speaker 1: kind of like, that didn't feel like the destination. It
Speaker 1: feels like there's there's more for him to get to,
Speaker 1: possibly this year, but potentially even even beyond that.
Speaker 2: Any We're recording this on Friday afternoon and he's t
Speaker 2: ten at the Scottish Open. Yeah, no matter what happens
Speaker 2: this weekend. What that tells me is that the game
Speaker 2: is in form. He's ready to go. He's like he's
Speaker 2: locked in, Like I think what he believed and he
Speaker 2: believes and the thing I think that he has now
Speaker 2: after Rocket Mortgage. I hate saying this about you know,
Speaker 2: Rocket Mortgage like this, but like there's real belief. There's
Speaker 2: more belief than before the US Open, Like this is
Speaker 2: major championships are all about a lot about belief, and
Speaker 2: I think there's never been maybe more belief for Ricky
Speaker 2: Fowlers since twenty fourteen.
Speaker 1: Yep. Yeah, And it's crazy to think how much I
Speaker 1: think you talk about this a lot. I know all
Speaker 1: of us do. But how much of it is just
Speaker 1: like luck, you know, a couple a couple of things
Speaker 1: going like you have all these things that want that
Speaker 1: line up. You're hitting it great, you believe all. You
Speaker 1: hit some putt, you make some putts whatever, But then
Speaker 1: like one or two things can go badly and there
Speaker 1: that's the end of your You know, you don't win
Speaker 1: because of that, and that is just that has to
Speaker 1: be mentally infuriating. I was curious, who did you who
Speaker 1: did you think was the best dressed out of that
Speaker 1: that trio at Wimbledon.
Speaker 2: It's a hard question. There's there's there's My college fuddies
Speaker 2: have had a chain going. All of them were just disgusted,
Speaker 2: you know, they're I think that the uh, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I think it definitely wasn't speed. Well can we agree
Speaker 1: on that, No, we can't. I actually think it was speed.
Speaker 2: It just wasn't ironed.
Speaker 1: The outcome was bad. His process was good because he
Speaker 1: didn't The thing that he did was he didn't try
Speaker 1: too hard. Like he he stayed within himself. He didn't
Speaker 1: try to do too much. He didn't try to cover
Speaker 1: like a two eighty, you know lake when he only
Speaker 1: had a two sixty club. He just forgot to He
Speaker 1: just forgot to iron the pants, which was which was
Speaker 1: not great.
Speaker 2: Honestly, I'm looking at the picture now, the pants. I mean,
Speaker 2: I respect it because I just want to put this
Speaker 2: out there. If people ever see me in public, my
Speaker 2: pants will probably look like George speed Well.
Speaker 1: Somebody was trying to tell me that it was he
Speaker 1: was wearing linen pants and you can't iron linen. I
Speaker 1: was like, I don't think those are linen pants.
Speaker 2: Honestly, I think Rick looks the best.
Speaker 1: Yeah, JT, there's JT's got a lot going on.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there is a lot going on. It's I mean,
Speaker 2: I respect JT for for going for it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, he's almost Yeah, he's it's like a bit.
Speaker 1: He's like playing a playing a part.
Speaker 2: That's who's your pick to win? Real quick, we're we're
Speaker 2: way over time here for the Fridayke pod.
Speaker 1: Well, I didn't know we had a time limit. We're
Speaker 1: talking about Eric, Eric mcke and Jeff Green.
Speaker 2: There's no time limit. There's there's just constraints put put
Speaker 2: on by my own self.
Speaker 1: I don't think I have picked him for a major
Speaker 1: this year. I know I haven't, but I'm I'm I'm
Speaker 1: ready to I'm ready to run it back, get hurt
Speaker 1: all all that. Yeah, I think he's gonna win by
Speaker 1: like five. I really, do you know?
Speaker 2: My one and done pick is gonna be cam Smith.
Speaker 2: I'm kind of starting to talk myself into Ricky. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I think Scotty is gonna win. Okay, there's that Strokes
Speaker 2: gained total stat or whatever about like two thousand and
Speaker 2: six and twenty fourteen Tiger and Rory and I think
Speaker 2: that I think Hoylake Hoyla could become the new Birkdale
Speaker 2: where you say, like, look at the winners. That's like
Speaker 2: one of the things like if Rory wins again, if
Speaker 2: Scotty wins, if rom wins all of a sudden, I
Speaker 2: think that the RODA discussion discourse needs to be like
Speaker 2: the place that produces the winners is Hoylake, because then
Speaker 2: you go back Peter Thompson. De Vicenzo obviously was a
Speaker 2: great player, but Peter Thompson then they were just like
Speaker 2: completely out of the ROTA for a long time. I
Speaker 2: also want hearing more about the Dowie hole. I want it,
Speaker 2: I want it back. I want the par three surrounded
Speaker 2: by out of bounds back.
Speaker 1: Oh, that would be amazing. The Bergdale list is so crazy, Well,
Speaker 1: they got the problem is the most recent champions just
Speaker 1: a guy. Oh my gosh, we've gone long enough for
Speaker 1: you to say that that that needs we need to.
Speaker 2: I just wanted to rile you up. That was that
Speaker 2: was That was a joke. Just a guy came out
Speaker 2: after Brickdale.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true. That's a good point. He was the
Speaker 1: best iron party in the world in twenty seventeen.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've you know, at that point, it was where's
Speaker 2: this going? That's what you know. That's my favorite. One
Speaker 2: of my favorite things with majors is how the discourse
Speaker 2: immediately after is like, is this guy gonna win eight?
Speaker 1: I got like, I love Tron he's the best. After
Speaker 1: after more Kala won Royal Saint George's two years ago,
Speaker 1: he he legitimately said that more CaWO would win eight
Speaker 1: major championships, and it's I get it. It's easy to do.
Speaker 1: It's easy to to Uh. It's because it's so easy
Speaker 1: to invasion, right, Like they've just won, like this guy's
Speaker 1: But there's the beautiful thing about majors is there's only
Speaker 1: so many of them, and there can't ever be more
Speaker 1: of them. It's like the perfect It's the perfect amount
Speaker 1: of what you want from the most important events of
Speaker 1: the year for golf.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I completely agree. All right, Kyle, thank you for
Speaker 2: coming on. This was delightful. People can find your work
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Speaker 1: Yeah, at both threads too. I've made them cans forgot
Speaker 1: about Threads. I keep I check it every once in
Speaker 1: a while. There's too many, too many places. I don't
Speaker 1: have the time to double post now, even if it's
Speaker 1: copy and paste. No, I'm good.
Speaker 2: Have you has to just win out?
Speaker 1: Have you gotten paid by Twitter yet? No? All these
Speaker 1: all these all these creators getting getting paid for their
Speaker 1: for their their viewer.
Speaker 2: To golf.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I checked with I checked with some
Speaker 1: of the I checked with Sally and he said he
Speaker 1: he hasn't received it either, So maybe I don't know.
Speaker 2: He wants to be worried about the Kardashians, not us
Speaker 2: golf content creators.
Speaker 1: Maybe the Live boys are getting it intant, Maybe they
Speaker 1: live the live the live bots are getting it.
Speaker 2: Instead absolutely something that probably is happening. They get They've
Speaker 2: gotten everything so far. All right, we love I love
Speaker 2: you live bots, you know. Yeah, I do not I
Speaker 2: find it humorous. I just I enjoy laughing. My beads
Speaker 2: of social media at this point are for purely, strictly
Speaker 2: for humor. Find the humor and everything, even when.
Speaker 1: It's very serious, it's great. I love it.
Speaker 2: All right, Kyle, thank you, and we'll talk soon. I
Speaker 2: can't believe the opens here. Thanks Andy, thank you for
Speaker 2: listening to another edition of the Friday Podcast. Today's episode
Speaker 2: was edited by Matt Russ's Thank you, Matt. Matt's been
Speaker 2: killing it with our social media channels. If you don't,
Speaker 2: if you aren't on social media, I really applaud you.
Speaker 2: That's an amazing thing. If you're on Instagram and you
Speaker 2: don't follow us already, please do so. It is at
Speaker 2: Friday Golf and we do a ton of stuff. We've
Speaker 2: been we just started this new thing whole of the day,
Speaker 2: which is pretty fun. And Matt's been cooking up some
Speaker 2: really cool reels over there. So follow our social channels
Speaker 2: and thank you to Matt for putting this together. And
Speaker 2: can't wait for Open Championship week. We will be back
Speaker 2: with at least one more podcast this week, maybe another one.
Speaker 2: We'll see, but thanks and we'll talk to you soon.