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Speaker 1: is Mandy B. Welcome to Selective Ignorance, a production of
Speaker 1: The Black Effect Podcast Network and iHeartRadio. Welcome to another
Speaker 1: episode of Selective Ignorance with me, you girl, Mandy B.
Speaker 1: Where I know just enough to be dangerous but not
Speaker 1: enough to be depressed. This week and this is America,
Speaker 1: we're getting real tenfoil hat with it. Okay, it's it's
Speaker 1: the end of the year, so we're lighting up the
Speaker 1: mood a bit. But we are tapping into the themes
Speaker 1: of Apple TV's new show Pluribus Jo Caro and asking
Speaker 1: is sci fi actually not that fictional anymore? Like at
Speaker 1: this point is it a genre or is it a
Speaker 1: soft launch for what the government got planned in real life?
Speaker 1: So robots, surveillance, social scoring system, babes, it's looking less
Speaker 1: once upon a time and more give it to more
Speaker 1: election cycles? All right, look at my African American. Then
Speaker 1: in celebrities say the darness things, including your girl, Hi, Hello,
Speaker 1: it's me manby b They tried to get me out
Speaker 1: of here, gotcha, bitch by emailing me some tweets that
Speaker 1: I had out in twenty eleven and failed miserably. Because
Speaker 1: guess what, I'm doubling down. Not only do I refuse
Speaker 1: to get canceled and will I never get canceled. I
Speaker 1: am letting y'all know that maybe in twenty twenty five,
Speaker 1: those tweets from fourteen years ago still kind of apply.
Speaker 1: We need to do better. Meanwhile, Rory from roorya Maul,
Speaker 1: Kayla Nicole who everyone only knows as the ex of
Speaker 1: a football player, and Tyler the Creator have gotten kind
Speaker 1: of put in the hot seat over the last couple
Speaker 1: of weeks with their tweets, but we are talking about
Speaker 1: what black Twitter really was, what it meant, and if
Speaker 1: we could just forgive everybody for their tweets from twenty
Speaker 1: eleven everything.
Speaker 2: Fuck the fuck up, y'all.
Speaker 1: This is a fun episode leading into the week right
Speaker 1: before our year and wrap up that has taking place
Speaker 1: next week, so y'all make sure to tune into that,
Speaker 1: and then of course we have a cute little Christmas
Speaker 1: episode ending out the year. Also, listen, fuck your jobs.
Speaker 1: None of y'all are really working right now anyways, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. Everybody is clocked the fuck out.
Speaker 1: So I thought that we would give you guys some
Speaker 1: entertaining conversations in your ear while you barely work.
Speaker 2: Fuck your cop schnugger, Yeah, what what is it?
Speaker 1: Working?
Speaker 2: Barely working?
Speaker 1: But what is the goddamn saying?
Speaker 2: Are you hard? Harley? Yes?
Speaker 1: Working harder, hardly working? All of you nigglets are hardly working.
Speaker 1: Show anyways, y'all don't per usual. I am joined by
Speaker 1: my super producers, can can Jason Wegas y'all know journalism. Jason,
Speaker 1: I'm here to bring y'all the facts, the stats and
Speaker 1: all the things. And then we have o G podcast legend,
Speaker 1: a king here to what real mean really? Uh if
Speaker 1: I'm getting too out of bounds, and then y'all welcoming
Speaker 1: yet again a voice that you guys will learn to
Speaker 1: get familiar with who will be joining me at the
Speaker 1: top of next year as well. Really excited to welcome
Speaker 1: Jason Lee. And we've already talked about it last week.
Speaker 1: Not that Jonson, Sir Joah, Sir John Job crazy. He's
Speaker 1: in the building, and I guess, uh, per usual, We're
Speaker 1: gonna start off with some conversations about how I've been
Speaker 1: kind of ignorant because baby I have. It is really
Speaker 1: crazy because I'm actually starting a list as we come
Speaker 1: into the studio and I'd be having to like hold
Speaker 1: some for the following episode because I'm like, damn it, bitch,
Speaker 1: be ignorant a lot, damn what is wrong with your girl? Everything? Maybe,
Speaker 1: but this one, I actually am not the ignorant one here.
Speaker 1: I had to call out a friend who was ignorant,
Speaker 1: and I want to hear y'alls thoughts on if it
Speaker 1: has ever happened, and pretty much per usual, I'm trying
Speaker 1: to educate men here on this one. Okay, So anyways, Uh.
Speaker 1: A couple of weeks ago, I went to a Prize
Speaker 1: Picks party, and you know Prize Picks.
Speaker 2: What's up?
Speaker 1: Throw the bag here? This is not a sports podcast,
Speaker 1: but we could do it here. I can get listen.
Speaker 1: I could bet on which niggas look good to say, yeah,
Speaker 1: they gonna throw the ball real far, like what's up?
Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
Speaker 1: No? No, no, and.
Speaker 3: Do no not.
Speaker 1: The crazy part about it is is what I when
Speaker 1: I'm out and I'm watching it so crazy to me
Speaker 1: and my friends are the same type of bitches. So
Speaker 1: we'll be watching a game, We're not really watching the game,
Speaker 1: but a fine motherfucker come across the screen because you know,
Speaker 1: the helmets don't come off very often, but when they do,
Speaker 1: and then they put the little name at the bottom
Speaker 1: of the screen, immediately you got to go find then Instagram.
Speaker 1: That's what I do. And then nine times out of
Speaker 1: ten they fucking have white wives. But uh, and then
Speaker 1: I'm like, ooh, not gonna follow him. But if I
Speaker 1: go down enough rows and they ain't got no no
Speaker 1: pictures of the wife, no pictures of the girlfriend, I'm
Speaker 1: hitting that follow button, hitting it like in a couple
Speaker 1: of pictures. Uh, but yeah. Anyways, Prize pixs high let
Speaker 1: your girl. So I go to this Prize Pix event.
Speaker 1: It's really cool, really dope. I did not win the
Speaker 1: money that I thought I was gonna win. Of course,
Speaker 1: I go into all gambling thinking, ooh, I got free money,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna win big and did it, but had a
Speaker 1: good time. Saw a lot of familiar faces and it
Speaker 1: was it was cute. So I'm not gonna say the
Speaker 1: rapper's name because the rapper is in a relationship. But
Speaker 1: it was very very platonic conversation.
Speaker 2: A relationship or relationship.
Speaker 1: Relationship, which is the only reason why I'm not going
Speaker 1: to bring it up, because I don't want it to
Speaker 1: seem like it's something that's not. Anyways, I'm talking to
Speaker 1: this rapper because we had exchange words at the BET
Speaker 1: Awards a couple of years ago.
Speaker 2: Exchange words.
Speaker 1: No, no when I say exchange words. And now I'm
Speaker 1: probably even gonna say. My mom is a big fan
Speaker 1: of this rapper, ironically, and so I FaceTime I say,
Speaker 1: oh my god, my mom loves you so much, like I,
Speaker 1: do you mind if I FaceTime six? Now they're little,
Speaker 1: they're little, which is also a part of the story
Speaker 1: as well, which is crazy. So he's a he's a shorty,
Speaker 1: but my mom is a fan. Okay, you know what,
Speaker 1: because I've already let it know how platonic it is,
Speaker 1: and I don't want him like that.
Speaker 2: Whatever.
Speaker 1: It's two sy.
Speaker 4: Favorite puts me on, tell your mom to share a playlist?
Speaker 1: Right the way this is this is a super like
Speaker 1: Atlanta reunion. So I walk in with Travis Porter and
Speaker 1: k Camp those are the people, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: I know them niggas forever. So anyways, I go here,
Speaker 1: Suci's there. He's got security, but we catch each other's eye,
Speaker 1: don't talk, but then we finally talk and he's like, hey,
Speaker 1: how you been. Finally it's like okay, I was like, hey,
Speaker 1: what's up? But yeah, he FaceTime my mom, So my
Speaker 1: mom's forever grateful about that. He's he's one of like
Speaker 1: the sweetest guys. And I really do like his music
Speaker 1: because my mama put me on. So anyways, we're talking
Speaker 1: and we're just catching up, and I was like, you
Speaker 1: don't live in Atlanta, right, He's visiting for for whatever
Speaker 1: he was visiting for. In the middle of our conversation,
Speaker 1: it's just me and him talking. But mind you, at
Speaker 1: the top of the stairs, mad people walking around, but
Speaker 1: it's me and him in conversation. My homie walks up
Speaker 1: in the middle of a conversation. Mind you, I see him.
Speaker 1: I see him from my eye and I give him
Speaker 1: not He walk up behind me and give me a
Speaker 1: hug from the back while I'm talking like Michael RB.
Speaker 2: Yes.
Speaker 1: If y'all don't know the micro look up the white parties.
Speaker 2: This nigga huggs everybody from the back.
Speaker 1: Two arms.
Speaker 5: Why he gives you the very important it don't matter.
Speaker 1: He he like literally is walking behind me and in
Speaker 1: the middle of my conversation he hugs me from behind.
Speaker 1: So he's entitled this is you don't even know hold on,
Speaker 1: so let me tell you.
Speaker 2: So I'm like, I'm like, did how long you stay?
Speaker 1: He did his cross to you? But yeah, yeah, he
Speaker 1: lean into it was it wasn't the crotch at the butt,
Speaker 1: but it was just like one of hed the butt
Speaker 1: sticking out because I couldn't see from the back. All
Speaker 1: I know is shortly after all, right to see like
Speaker 1: the conversation, but my you and we wasn't talking about nothing,
Speaker 1: just like well he got going on while so I perturbed.
Speaker 1: But I'm upset and not because I was trying to
Speaker 1: throw no pussy at this nigga, nothing like that. But
Speaker 1: I'm just thinking, what.
Speaker 2: If I was no, no, a little bit.
Speaker 6: You are a professional radio personality podcaster to this woman.
Speaker 6: You could have been discussing whatever whatever you feel liberally, so.
Speaker 1: As a man and another man, whatever it is, you
Speaker 1: don't come and make it awkward or uncomfortable or do
Speaker 1: that ship mind you, just say, this is a whole
Speaker 1: me said.
Speaker 2: Person you was talking to might interpret that, oh ship.
Speaker 1: Like oh, let me back up. So anyways, we go
Speaker 1: to to passing each other, go into the bathroom and
Speaker 1: I let this nigga have it, and it's my homie.
Speaker 1: I say, hey, come on, I said, don't you ever
Speaker 1: your motherfucking life mind you, he's not even a nigga
Speaker 1: that we like that.
Speaker 2: We even we don't even in brace like that.
Speaker 1: I said, Nigga, I said, don't you ever in your
Speaker 1: motherfucking life while I'm talking to any other man, because
Speaker 1: it's really a man, particularly while I'm engaging in conversation
Speaker 1: with another man, come up first, off from behind, but
Speaker 1: also make your presence be known like that and interrupt
Speaker 1: in exchange that's happening between me and another nigga, because
Speaker 1: first off, you don't know what the conversation was. You
Speaker 1: don't know who this nigga is to me, but you
Speaker 1: also don't know the conversation, and your presence interrupts that.
Speaker 1: And do you know what his first response was?
Speaker 2: But I know your type.
Speaker 1: I didn't think that that was anything because he's short,
Speaker 1: because to see is on the shorter side and it's so.
Speaker 7: Literally that's good on his part.
Speaker 1: So because this nigga wasn't six foot, you felt entitled
Speaker 1: to come interrupt or make your presence be known in
Speaker 1: a conversation where it wasn't warranted, and so we literally
Speaker 1: had to have the whole conversation because he didn't see
Speaker 1: the problem with what he did. Apparently he brought this
Speaker 1: scenario to multiple people and they all said, nigga, you
Speaker 1: dead ass wrong. So I say this to say for
Speaker 1: any but not only that, this is one of those
Speaker 1: universal things men listening. If a woman that you know
Speaker 1: is engaging into a conversation with another man, regardless of
Speaker 1: what their relationship is, you making your presence be known
Speaker 1: by coming and embracing her in that moment is dead,
Speaker 1: ass ignorant is fun, and it's wrong, like because again
Speaker 1: men see that as a territorial thing, as if he's
Speaker 1: doing something wrong, even though he wasn't. Bro, we were talking,
Speaker 1: We were having a conversation. Mind you wanting him to
Speaker 1: come on a radio want it? Like, nigga, what are
Speaker 1: you in Atlanta for how long? Because I'd love to
Speaker 1: get you on my ship. And then he come over
Speaker 1: and embrace me. And now this nigga feels like, oh,
Speaker 1: I don't cross the boundary. I shouldn't be talking. Let
Speaker 1: me back off. And so I had to tell him that,
Speaker 1: but I was like, how do you not know this?
Speaker 1: So I didn't want to make this announcement to any
Speaker 1: nigga who.
Speaker 2: Is like, wait, what's the problem? Bro?
Speaker 1: If a woman is engaging in conversation with any man,
Speaker 1: it don't matter. If that's her coworker, it don't matter.
Speaker 1: If it's just a stranger, it don't matter if it's
Speaker 1: it's a colleague.
Speaker 2: Do not or some nigga you think she don't like,
Speaker 2: or nigga that you don't.
Speaker 1: Think she likes, because you don't think that's her. Do
Speaker 1: not come over and insert yourself into the that's crazy.
Speaker 7: If you do a Michael Rubin from the back and
Speaker 7: you see somebody like you have you have to you
Speaker 7: have to like stick and stay.
Speaker 1: You have to you have to be like, oh this
Speaker 1: is my pe. No, no, you join the conversation. That's no, no, no, no.
Speaker 1: That's even worse. That's even worse. You don't see Michael,
Speaker 1: you don't. You don't embrace it from the back and
Speaker 1: then stay into a conversation that you're not a part of.
Speaker 7: Well, first of all, if you have the audacity to
Speaker 7: do a Michael Rubin, you've got to plant you can't
Speaker 7: even worse.
Speaker 1: Again, that means you are you are putting your your
Speaker 1: scent into it. Unless unless you are my nigga, and
Speaker 1: unless you are on some like insecure as shit and
Speaker 1: we are together and I am in a room speaking
Speaker 1: to someone that might intimidate you, make you feel uncomfortable
Speaker 1: or you feel like you have to include yourself. Cool,
Speaker 1: But if you are just a friend of if you
Speaker 1: are just a male counterpart male, you don't insert yourself
Speaker 1: into a space between a woman and another.
Speaker 6: Man because it's a violation on multiple fronts, right, all
Speaker 6: the violation.
Speaker 2: The first is like.
Speaker 6: You yourself as the person being accosted by this hug,
Speaker 6: like you know what I'm saying, So like, hey, that's
Speaker 6: the first thing that stands like paramount.
Speaker 2: But then the other part of it till you spoke
Speaker 2: to is like.
Speaker 6: We men were in social situations, like we understand how
Speaker 6: things go and like whether your ego can deal with
Speaker 6: it or not. Like be in a room with a
Speaker 6: lot of other men. There's rich niggas, there's powerful niggas.
Speaker 6: There's niggas who might be on your quote unquote level.
Speaker 6: There might be all kinds of situations going on. You
Speaker 6: don't want to be the weird guy.
Speaker 7: Facts.
Speaker 2: Also, I know a lot of women. I'm friends with
Speaker 2: a lot of women.
Speaker 6: I really can't name you a single woman and he's
Speaker 6: a woman who to your point, some women you don't
Speaker 6: even embrace like that whatever. But all the women that
Speaker 6: I know that I hug, I can't really name you
Speaker 6: one of them that I would hug from the.
Speaker 1: Back unless you ate my ass, Hug me at the back,
Speaker 1: hug the bitch from the back, unless you work. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like that even an etiquette of hugs, which is why
Speaker 1: both of y'all asked, was it both, here was one,
Speaker 1: here was the church hug was Yeah, it was from
Speaker 1: the back, which made it egregious. Nonetheless, that could have been.
Speaker 6: If you what if you was talking Todd, I mean, whoever?
Speaker 6: And who are you emotional intelligence? Like I don't have it?
Speaker 6: Who are you say?
Speaker 8: Oh?
Speaker 2: Well, but I mean if it's your lady.
Speaker 6: That's a whole un saying that in the moment we're
Speaker 6: talking to hit him.
Speaker 1: Who are you determine who's my who's my type or not? Like, yes,
Speaker 1: everyone knows that, don't give you but that. I was
Speaker 1: so like, how old is this nigga? In his thirties?
Speaker 1: He know better?
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's and he asks other people. That just shows
Speaker 2: that he didn't know.
Speaker 1: Referencing last week. These niggas be knowing better, they just
Speaker 1: don't choose to do better. They just ignore and don't
Speaker 1: give a fuck. And when I tell you, I and
Speaker 1: I ain't never talked to this nigga like that because
Speaker 1: he's cool, Leslie, I said, don't you ever in your
Speaker 1: motherfucking life you see how many kurtseperds I'm using. I
Speaker 1: was so upset.
Speaker 6: Of course, he was probably how long have you known him?
Speaker 1: Actually met him? This year?
Speaker 6: So here's what that. Here's what that is, right?
Speaker 2: What is that? What that is?
Speaker 6: That is him taking an opportunity what he thought back
Speaker 6: what he thought was an opportunity to be like, oh man,
Speaker 6: and then he thinks the water yeah yeah, yeah, response
Speaker 6: would be warm.
Speaker 1: She thought she was gonna lean back into it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was him.
Speaker 6: That was the passes aggressive, Like all right now, if
Speaker 6: she leaning ass back into me, she liked me.
Speaker 2: Maybe maybe I got.
Speaker 1: A niggas he over He might be right at six.
Speaker 6: Because niggas fish and niggas fish in various ways. Sometimes
Speaker 6: I can fish by saying a compliments. Sometimes I can
Speaker 6: fish by doing it a chore.
Speaker 2: Don't fish? How about that?
Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, fishing physically That nigga was fishing though
Speaker 6: he was because.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean. Difference between flirt and sexual assault, Like.
Speaker 2: Yeah about it?
Speaker 6: Like even if you even if there's a person that
Speaker 6: you regularly embraced, what if you didn't want to be
Speaker 6: touched right now? Like you know, I did it and
Speaker 6: I can't see I mean conversation, I mean conversations.
Speaker 2: So you just take it upon yourself to that you
Speaker 2: can't do that, bro.
Speaker 1: Mind you I'm in a room and I'm looking around
Speaker 1: and I love it. There's no bodies. I have no
Speaker 1: bodies in this room. There's not one in this room
Speaker 1: that I fucked. So immediately, who got the nerves?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Who is this? Right?
Speaker 5: Ain't none of these niggas, none of mine?
Speaker 1: I had his read coming, mind you, none of them
Speaker 1: are in my rolodicts in this whole room, right. So
Speaker 1: I'm just like, why are you laughing?
Speaker 2: You caught it? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you feel me. That's a T shirt, you know.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I was like, did the nerve the dacity?
Speaker 1: Because listen, if it's one thing a man gonna have,
Speaker 1: he can't no money, no job, little dick whatever, he
Speaker 1: ain't got much, but he gonna have the audacity.
Speaker 2: Pocket full of audacity.
Speaker 1: Oh my god. Anyways, I'm glad to know that y'all
Speaker 1: are mature enough to know that you don't just hug
Speaker 1: bites from the back. That's a standard in conversation in
Speaker 1: the presence of another man.
Speaker 6: And to be honest with you, like I never had
Speaker 6: to be told that, like that's not a thing, that
Speaker 6: that's not really a lesson that you.
Speaker 2: I never had to learn that lesson. I want to
Speaker 2: sit you down and tell you about I'm gona tell
Speaker 2: you by somebody what you can't do now.
Speaker 6: Just you have some level of social intelligence, of emotional intelligence,
Speaker 6: you just know, Okay, this is gonna you know what
Speaker 6: to be.
Speaker 1: Fair, to be fair, and I will say it, and
Speaker 1: it's gonna sound and it's stupid, probably gonna make y'all
Speaker 1: little bad. I don't care. Everyone's still not diagnosed yet.
Speaker 1: So social cues are like we talk about what is it? Everybody?
Speaker 1: Like common sense ain't so common the social cues. And
Speaker 1: we could blame the pandemic a little bit because people
Speaker 1: had to be inside for some time, but also they
Speaker 1: weren't inside in Atlanta, so social cues should be better
Speaker 1: here than anywhere else. Y'all niggas didn't have social It.
Speaker 6: Should be for the record, as the longest standing in
Speaker 6: Atlanta resident in this room, my ass was inside.
Speaker 2: I don't know nothing about.
Speaker 6: What the niggas, the super bars, niggas, all the videos.
Speaker 1: COVID was saying hi to everybody, but yeah to me,
Speaker 1: social cues.
Speaker 6: And that is that, you know, It's funny, like like
Speaker 6: if you introduced me to a friend of yours. Right,
Speaker 6: the first thing I'm gonna do is reach my hand
Speaker 6: out nine times at the ten they said no, I
Speaker 6: give h only say that because I believe because of
Speaker 6: how I present it, because they're like, no, that's respectful, right,
Speaker 6: you know, come give hugs, right.
Speaker 2: That should be it. Yeah, and then he should have.
Speaker 6: Honestly, I would have if I'm him, I would have
Speaker 6: played off to the side.
Speaker 2: Wait till you finished talking?
Speaker 6: Man, what upsy? Even in the front facing greeting instead
Speaker 6: of that?
Speaker 1: Are you saying that though I only extend hugs to women,
Speaker 1: if I'm meeting a man, they're getting a hand out,
Speaker 1: like I don't like even if I'm being introduced, I
Speaker 1: don't embrace men. I embrace women to let their guard down. Know,
Speaker 1: like girl, I'm friendly bit yeah, but men I never
Speaker 1: embraced with a hug upon introduction.
Speaker 6: Most nine times out of ten, I meet a woman,
Speaker 6: send your hand, You get a shake if if from
Speaker 6: that shake, and then y'all have a good conversation or
Speaker 6: y'all are kicking of the bunch of a group of
Speaker 6: people and y'all have gotten to like warm up to
Speaker 6: one another.
Speaker 2: Most times, then you get the hug.
Speaker 6: Crazy ye be weaving through Florida bronze. But that there's
Speaker 6: a two part violation though, because the first violation is
Speaker 6: he shouldn't even came up.
Speaker 2: In the should have saw you got excited and be like,
Speaker 2: oh cool, soon she done with that, like I'm gonna
Speaker 2: go say what's up to her whatever.
Speaker 6: So that's the first thing, But the second part is, yeah,
Speaker 6: you definitely like you can't just.
Speaker 1: Anyway shout out to tescy uh and and him being
Speaker 1: my mom's favorite rapper. I guess I'll ask the room
Speaker 1: before we dive in. Did any of y'all do anything
Speaker 1: ignorant over the last week or so?
Speaker 2: Hmm?
Speaker 1: I love a good clean life man ignorant of the butt. No,
Speaker 1: did y'all Did y'all do anything ignorant or that y'all
Speaker 1: feel like could be perceived as ignorant?
Speaker 2: Ignorance is and an eye to beholder.
Speaker 1: Please chop please, No, I don't think.
Speaker 6: I mean, I feel like all the ignorance ship that
Speaker 6: I do is like like talking about people like okay, yeah,
Speaker 6: the good old fashion.
Speaker 1: To talk about who you cursed out and what your
Speaker 1: thoughts are on certain drivers.
Speaker 2: It's okay, okay, So here's a story.
Speaker 6: And this isn't even my ignorance, but this is like
Speaker 6: a very ignorant thing that I that I saw in
Speaker 6: real time.
Speaker 2: But I was like, damn, that really happened.
Speaker 1: Okay, so I've.
Speaker 6: Only been arrested one time in my life. Oh okay,
Speaker 6: all right, game is the game?
Speaker 1: Actually wait no, we're equal. I forgot the Nelson.
Speaker 2: Well technically I got arrested twice in forty eight hours.
Speaker 2: But it's for the.
Speaker 1: Same cheese, the same package.
Speaker 6: Same yeah, same same, same same. Later that's like you
Speaker 6: get some head. That shit don't count.
Speaker 2: So that's another so as a body or yeah, head
Speaker 2: counts as a body, that's not a body. The body
Speaker 2: is a body.
Speaker 1: We're not doing that.
Speaker 2: No, oral sex is sex, but that's not a body.
Speaker 1: If you walk into the room and a nigga can
Speaker 1: say her mouth has been around my fucking dick to anybody,
Speaker 1: that means that's not. That's not.
Speaker 6: But if you ask somebody count your bodies, you're not counting,
Speaker 6: like you're not. You're not adding that into the list.
Speaker 6: You're adding the niggas who anyway, we're getting off.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, yeah this same decisions, say.
Speaker 6: Decisions, right, Yeah, I got to invite me to another part.
Speaker 6: But so no, so I get arrested. We're on our
Speaker 6: way to the jail. We get to a red light
Speaker 6: downtown Atlanta. There's a bunch of one way streets everything there.
Speaker 1: Everything.
Speaker 6: We get to the red light, we see headlights coming
Speaker 6: towards us. Cop is looking at that.
Speaker 2: We're all in it.
Speaker 6: Had the same thought at the same time, like why
Speaker 6: they coming at us? It's a one way street. Cop
Speaker 6: task partner and says, I bet.
Speaker 2: You twenty dollars day Asian Yo, yo. I'm in the
Speaker 2: back of the car, like.
Speaker 1: You should have started negotiating there.
Speaker 2: Let me go. Look, I bet my bell agent.
Speaker 6: Look the cops, white cops, two white cops, bet you
Speaker 6: twenty dollars Asian bet boo.
Speaker 2: Pull up on them.
Speaker 6: Car full of like six Asian folks in the car.
Speaker 6: This about it.
Speaker 2: But we just don't do that.
Speaker 6: What's that We could call it out? We do what
Speaker 6: we call out. We can, Yeah, who's committing the offense?
Speaker 1: Special talent I have. We literally do that a lot
Speaker 1: all the time, and I have a I have a
Speaker 1: bit of a problem with it. Y'all know the video
Speaker 1: I sent y'all this week, you know, the one in
Speaker 1: the chat so that Okay, I came across. I came
Speaker 1: across the video and it pissed me off because I
Speaker 1: think it's what we were we were talking about it
Speaker 1: with and we'll get into the tweets later. But in
Speaker 1: terms of how we are also racist against other we
Speaker 1: can't be racist but prejudice, bius, bias towards other other ethnicities. Bro,
Speaker 1: why do we be shot when they do it to us?
Speaker 1: And this is so here we are So there's a
Speaker 1: clip that I saw and it is yeah, can we
Speaker 1: just well, yeah, we do.
Speaker 2: That amongst our own to That's that gotta be a nigga,
Speaker 2: that's a straight nigga.
Speaker 6: But yeah, and you know, I'll draw a very thin
Speaker 6: line right the ship that we be biased about toward
Speaker 6: most people.
Speaker 2: Don't be crimes. No, no, we mean we mean biased.
Speaker 1: I want you to watch this, watch this.
Speaker 7: Video English ship Mexican.
Speaker 1: Can you tell me the difference between Valentino and Patino?
Speaker 8: You?
Speaker 2: Honestly, they kind of both taste the same. Ones made
Speaker 2: here in the United States ones made in Mexico. I
Speaker 2: mean basically they taste the same. Honestly.
Speaker 6: Okay, thank you excuse me?
Speaker 2: Are you black?
Speaker 8: Right?
Speaker 2: But he put out that.
Speaker 1: Literally you speak first off, the question do you speak English?
Speaker 1: Is crazy? And then you're Mexican, right, And then it's
Speaker 1: hot sauces of two different like clip bro to me
Speaker 1: and she just asked it, like so again selective ignorance.
Speaker 1: So you can walk up to a Mexican ask them
Speaker 1: if they even speak English first, then ask them about
Speaker 1: these two hot sauces and be like, Okay, thank you.
Speaker 1: But if someone else walks up to you and asks
Speaker 1: what you perceived to be a racist thing because they're asking,
Speaker 1: but they're knowing that you should be knowledgeable because you're black,
Speaker 1: how the fuck you mad at that?
Speaker 5: But he actually matter, by the way, by the way,
Speaker 5: by the way, if y'all are listening audio only, when
Speaker 5: he asked, hey, you're black, right, he's holding a Jiffy
Speaker 5: box of corn bread.
Speaker 2: And a watermelon. That's what I'm saying that, to be.
Speaker 1: Fair, would black people I have the most knowledge around
Speaker 1: corn bread and watermelon?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: He gave. He gave great knowledge. He was able to
Speaker 1: explain the difference between the top of fair Enough, if
Speaker 1: I go to a black person, I'm gonna what are
Speaker 1: the races can make cornbread? What are the races associated
Speaker 1: with watermelon? So if he had a question about corn
Speaker 1: bread and watermelon, what makes a racist? Then he went
Speaker 1: up to you're black, right.
Speaker 6: I think if he if she had to pulled out
Speaker 6: some avocados, and then it would have it would have
Speaker 6: been equal. He pulled out head, I'm gonna knock all
Speaker 6: this out, and I got feel like, let's everybody eat
Speaker 6: the hot sauce.
Speaker 8: Now.
Speaker 1: It was a skit to be in terms of like
Speaker 1: how we want people to treat us, we somehow get
Speaker 1: a pass to be completely ignorant, not not selectively. We
Speaker 1: believe we get the past to be completely ignorant with
Speaker 1: every other race in our biases and their stereotypes. But
Speaker 1: heaven forbid someone else of another race has the stereotype
Speaker 1: about us, and so like it's one of those like
Speaker 1: do all the others?
Speaker 8: Is you?
Speaker 1: Like done onto yourself? I don't understand why we get
Speaker 1: the past to be just completely ignorant to all other I.
Speaker 2: Don't think I would ask a Mexican that they different.
Speaker 1: Bullshit, bullshit you just said. But the avocado, I'm walking
Speaker 1: up to it as.
Speaker 2: It relates to what the what is the one of one? Well,
Speaker 2: you know, I'm thinking about it now.
Speaker 6: My selective ignorance came out on seeing it one time,
Speaker 6: not that I'm thinking about it.
Speaker 1: What you was ignorant on CNN is representing us.
Speaker 6: You were ignorant, and I could have there was a
Speaker 6: way to me to avoid this ignorance, but I didn't
Speaker 6: didn't think about it until after the fact, Right, what was.
Speaker 1: Your ignorance caught by everyone?
Speaker 8: No?
Speaker 6: No, no, no, it was only caught about one person.
Speaker 6: It was so we were on there talking about bad
Speaker 6: Bunny in the Super Bowl. Bonney shout out to Benny Benito,
Speaker 6: by the.
Speaker 1: Way, shout out to also his change in aesthetics. I
Speaker 1: didn't know that bad Bunny was Bad Bunny who he
Speaker 1: is now because he's fine. But when he came out,
Speaker 1: he looked real uptown, uh Washington. I was like, this
Speaker 1: is the same.
Speaker 6: So we're talking about him on the Super Bowl and
Speaker 6: they came to me on the panel and I was like,
Speaker 6: you know, all these Magga people are mad at that
Speaker 6: he's going to be not speaking English whoo woop the woop.
Speaker 2: And I was like, yo, I hope none of.
Speaker 6: These people will get access to tacos or guacamole or
Speaker 6: none of that. Ship Like, fuck him all you don't
Speaker 6: want if you can't, if you can't support this man.
Speaker 1: You put your Mexican.
Speaker 6: So I posted the clip on my Instagram and I
Speaker 6: don't think nothing of it. And he wasn't tight because
Speaker 6: we know each other, but it was still funny. When
Speaker 6: he said I was like, oh, ship, He's right. I
Speaker 6: could have said a different food, so you could have
Speaker 6: had bad knee.
Speaker 2: I could have.
Speaker 1: Tacos Mexican all the way.
Speaker 6: I'm not Utrian, but not even a little bit. That
Speaker 6: was so so Rook of Justice League. Justice League Rook
Speaker 6: hit me in the comment. He was like, bro, we're
Speaker 6: Puerto Ricans, like, we don't eat that ship. And I
Speaker 6: was like, you know, point that out, to point that
Speaker 6: out of all people.
Speaker 1: Because to be very fair, if if Jason decides to
Speaker 1: make hen he gonna be real American and say Taco Tuesday,
Speaker 1: we do a taco thing that I'm sure him and
Speaker 1: his wife just make like it's given. It's given. They
Speaker 1: buy the taco bell box. Well, you're not making homemade
Speaker 1: corn tortillas. They said you are hard shell. The soft
Speaker 1: shell were getting.
Speaker 6: But when he said that, I was like, damn, I
Speaker 6: could have said a million different food. But that was
Speaker 6: your but that was that was my ignorance. I was
Speaker 6: just like, ah, very Spanish people, that that was the
Speaker 6: that was and I thought about it. I was like,
Speaker 6: then that was ignorant.
Speaker 1: That was like me saying, well, sure makes more sense
Speaker 1: when I call them the Espanios because they do all
Speaker 1: speak Spanish. At least that's a common thing. All right,
Speaker 1: I would listen, I didn't get so many people mad
Speaker 1: from last week. So it's Spaniols. That's what I'm going into.
Speaker 1: And then you know what, it also includes the Spaniards. Okay,
Speaker 1: Europe the euro Spaniards, but colonizers.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm going to say this is a white people. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you spinards, damn.
Speaker 1: Historically accurate colonized colonizes. And if you'll haven't, if y'all
Speaker 1: haven't heard talked about the colonizers yet, please go back
Speaker 1: to our Thanksgiving Day episode because we give y'all all
Speaker 1: the history on the Americas. Anyways, we're gonna put on
Speaker 1: our tenfoil hats for this is America. Don't got to
Speaker 1: sleep in on them, because I think we're all a
Speaker 1: little fed up and tired of talking about the orange
Speaker 1: cheeto in the office. And as we round out the year.
Speaker 1: I want to give y'all some good television to watch
Speaker 1: because again, y'all aren't working hard. You're hardly working. So
Speaker 1: this is normally the time of year where yeah, you
Speaker 1: got to spend time around family, but you get to
Speaker 1: like wind down and watch TV. And me and John
Speaker 1: luckily had our We made y'all get into the show.
Speaker 1: But if you haven't yet, and spoiler alert, but not
Speaker 1: so much. We are talking about the Apple TV news
Speaker 1: show Pluribus, brought to you by the team that made
Speaker 1: Breaking Bad and Better Calls saw. You know what's crazy
Speaker 1: about that? Either my sister. My sister has a sea
Speaker 1: that is problematic and ignorance the show. Y'all enjoying this
Speaker 1: as a listening experience, you know, when the main character gets.
Speaker 2: Not what happens.
Speaker 1: I'm going to give you guys a brief synopsis, but
Speaker 1: for for what I wanted to do with this was
Speaker 1: kind of dig into the themes to talk about where
Speaker 1: we stand on certain things such as AI, the idea
Speaker 1: of world peace, UH agency as a human and what
Speaker 1: humanity even means. But the show follows Carol Starks, who
Speaker 1: is a successful fantasy romance author. But it's really dope
Speaker 1: because she leaned into heterosexual romance as a lesbian. So yes,
Speaker 1: if you are a Christian you fucking hate the gays,
Speaker 1: this might not be for you. But she survives an
Speaker 1: alien virus outbreak, which kind of looks a lot like
Speaker 1: the coronavirus, y'all. It impacts the entire world now for
Speaker 1: whatever reason, y'all know, just like normally in most sci
Speaker 1: fi films, there's people that outlive shit or are the
Speaker 1: cure for all things. When this takes place, there are
Speaker 1: eleven people total in the world who do not get
Speaker 1: infected with this virus. Now, the show pretty much follows Carol,
Speaker 1: who is one of the eleven who are not affected,
Speaker 1: and she has a huge issue with what's going on.
Speaker 1: The tagline for the show is the most miserable person
Speaker 1: on Earth must save the world from happiness.
Speaker 2: And I want to add this part add to it.
Speaker 2: The virus isn't a virus like the Last of Us or.
Speaker 6: Zombies essentially zombies kind of zombies, but it's a it's
Speaker 6: a social virus that essentially when you catch when you
Speaker 6: catch this virus, you get a choice of either joining
Speaker 6: the hive mind joining all of society.
Speaker 2: Kind of, well, you don't get well.
Speaker 6: The only reason I say they don't get a choice
Speaker 6: is because the woman, without going too far to it
Speaker 6: ahead of time, the woman said when Helen passed, she said,
Speaker 6: Helen joined us.
Speaker 2: Before she passed, So, like you catch it.
Speaker 6: And they haven't explained this yet, but the way I'm
Speaker 6: taking it based on what they showed us, is that
Speaker 6: as you are dying, quote unquote dying, you get an
Speaker 6: option of either either you're going to be part of
Speaker 6: this collective state of everyone, or you're going to die
Speaker 6: off as an individual.
Speaker 1: Which is interesting because I mean, we've talked about zombies
Speaker 1: on here and I was like, bitch out running them,
Speaker 1: But this is, this is this is essentially different, right, didn't.
Speaker 1: It's a very different take on uh an apocalypse essentially,
Speaker 1: And so there's so many themes that are brought about
Speaker 1: by this, and I'm not sure where we want to
Speaker 1: take it first, Jason, I know that we had some questions.
Speaker 1: Do we want to just start with whether if you
Speaker 1: had the option and mind you, let me tell you
Speaker 1: essentially what is being proposed here. It is a state
Speaker 1: of pure happiness and content, so you're not sad, you
Speaker 1: don't really have feelings whatever, you want to do. Essentially,
Speaker 1: is is all for the betterment of society, and everything
Speaker 1: is good. There's nothing bad, there's no crimes anymore, no
Speaker 1: one has an ill thought to do something wrong.
Speaker 2: Right, It's a net positive society.
Speaker 1: Yes, there we go. So let's start there in exchange
Speaker 1: you for losing yourself, your identity, your individuality, what makes
Speaker 1: you different, because essentially everyone is the same. Now everyone
Speaker 1: has the same goal. Everyone just lives happy. There's no
Speaker 1: no one cries, no one's mad, no one's angry. Everyone
Speaker 1: just you just want to help. Literally to the point where,
Speaker 1: let me tell you this, they don't even believe in
Speaker 1: killing so much so to where you can't fish, you
Speaker 1: can't step on an end. Nothing intentionally that would cause
Speaker 1: harm to any.
Speaker 6: Life has value. In the value of that life supersedes
Speaker 6: everything else.
Speaker 1: Yes, now, with this, would you guys, decide to connect
Speaker 1: to the hive mind where your thoughts and feelings are
Speaker 1: transparent and aligned with everyone, or would you would you
Speaker 1: not want to do that and filter out?
Speaker 2: Sign up?
Speaker 1: Sign you up to be happy.
Speaker 6: Because from my standpoint, the way I look at it
Speaker 6: is is that that in this individualistic life that we live,
Speaker 6: we're all trying to chase that happiness.
Speaker 2: Happiness, we're trying to achieve peace.
Speaker 6: We're trying to achieve happiness in ourselves individually, and hopefully
Speaker 6: if everyone has that same goal, everyone can move in that.
Speaker 1: Gay I think that's my problem, Like with what you
Speaker 1: just said, though that's fair, everyone doesn't what makes people
Speaker 1: happy or not the same? Well, happiness is not subjective, Well, happiness.
Speaker 6: Is Happiness is sugg subjective based on the fact that
Speaker 6: we have choices, we can make individual choices.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 6: If that, if that idea of making individual choices is removed,
Speaker 6: then there is nothing else but happiness.
Speaker 2: Like the the philosophy of life is suffering.
Speaker 6: I don't know if that's Plato Socer I don't know
Speaker 6: one of them niggas said that shit, But like life
Speaker 6: is suffering, right, Like we all endure things, and we're
Speaker 6: all working through our lives, through our professional and our
Speaker 6: personal relie relationships and what we decided to spend our
Speaker 6: time on to find a place that gives us peace,
Speaker 6: that actually gives us the happiness that we want, and
Speaker 6: we're pretty much suffering outside of those things.
Speaker 1: It's it's interesting because even in terms of how you
Speaker 1: consider suffering right, like mind you, grieving is something that
Speaker 1: we know we're all going to deal with. But to me,
Speaker 1: happiness a lot of times comes from achieving the things
Speaker 1: that were hard, that were hard to do, that were
Speaker 1: hard to do right. So, completing college one of my
Speaker 1: most prideful moments, even though now not so much because
Speaker 1: student debt, but Sally made a suck my dick from
Speaker 1: the back. The idea that I completed it though it
Speaker 1: was hard is what brought me happiness.
Speaker 2: Would you miss that though?
Speaker 1: Would you miss the hard the process? Would miss the hard?
Speaker 1: I don't want to.
Speaker 2: Done, That's my point. I wouldn't miss suffering.
Speaker 6: If I was just given happiness, I wouldn't be like, damn,
Speaker 6: I wish you could be fucked up so.
Speaker 2: That I could be happy.
Speaker 1: That's but that's how you know what happy is?
Speaker 2: Right? I think the contrast of it, and it's controlled happiness.
Speaker 6: But it's only but it's all. We only know that
Speaker 6: from our perspective because we have choices to make the
Speaker 6: only reason that there is the suffering because we can
Speaker 6: make individual decisions, and you make that decision, it might
Speaker 6: go left, it might go right.
Speaker 1: Now, let me ask you the other question. There was
Speaker 1: eleven people. Would you want to exist as yourself now
Speaker 1: in a world where everyone else has this virus?
Speaker 2: So the Diabat character, yeah, so oh oh yeah he
Speaker 2: when that.
Speaker 1: When they put it out. But you're just calling him Indian.
Speaker 6: Because you know what I'm thinking about. No, I'm putting
Speaker 6: him related to the mother and the son.
Speaker 1: This man is just from.
Speaker 2: It could be like, Yeah, when the nigga pulled up
Speaker 2: in Air Force one, I was like, this, he got
Speaker 2: hold on.
Speaker 1: He got it with with hose.
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, he got it.
Speaker 1: I think I think that was an interesting part. So y'all,
Speaker 1: maybe episode two or three, there's an episode two that's.
Speaker 6: When it really says this. Episode one sets you up
Speaker 6: for the premise of what Yeah, episode to let.
Speaker 1: You know, gives you the deep dive to where this
Speaker 1: is happening. Because because a lot of the other people
Speaker 1: that she's able to meet, she wants to meet with
Speaker 1: the ones that speak English and very American.
Speaker 2: Very we're gonna talk about it reminded me.
Speaker 1: She reminded me of like, yeah, only because just so
Speaker 1: y'all know, I'm going to cure us out for Christmas
Speaker 1: and the most let me, I'm bringing up another ignorant
Speaker 1: thought of mine. I love Aruba so much because the
Speaker 1: first language is English. Same for curious out it's the neighbor.
Speaker 1: I personally, I hate traveling internationally where niggas speak another
Speaker 1: language first, because then there's like accents, I gotta decipher
Speaker 1: ship and I'm like, oh, where do they speak English?
Speaker 1: That's where I want to go. I want to go
Speaker 1: enjoy another country, but I want it's convenience, very American American.
Speaker 2: No one could argue that ignorance and American is.
Speaker 1: So she sits with these people and essentially she feels
Speaker 1: like there is a problem with what society is looking
Speaker 1: like now. She's like, oh my god, it's up to
Speaker 1: us to save the world. And they're looking at.
Speaker 7: Her like I'm good, granted, but they still have loved
Speaker 7: ones around.
Speaker 1: They do still have loved ones around. She is by herself,
Speaker 1: she's sort of like in like a purgatory. But the
Speaker 1: French guy comes in and he's he's viewing this from
Speaker 1: a lens that takes advantage to me of what happiness
Speaker 1: looks like because he's leaning in more so individualistic, because
Speaker 1: whatever he wants he's asking for. Because that's another part
Speaker 1: of the virus. These people don't say no, They give
Speaker 1: you what you want, and so he has a harem
Speaker 1: of whores. He blew in on the Air Force one jet.
Speaker 2: We have the nuclear football. What are you doing? Are
Speaker 2: they benefiting? Is he benefiting?
Speaker 6: They told Carol that they're still trying to figure out
Speaker 6: how to fix get them.
Speaker 2: So they can make that decision.
Speaker 1: So does he And it's like clearness. They're trying to
Speaker 1: figure out how she can get infected with the virus.
Speaker 2: Want her to be right, so that would apply to
Speaker 2: the other, to the other.
Speaker 6: They're all trying to figure out that enjoyment that he's
Speaker 6: experiencing right now might be a further down the line.
Speaker 2: In the last series, it was.
Speaker 1: Crazy because is also in that in that same scene
Speaker 1: where he clearly wants to have sex.
Speaker 2: With the girl.
Speaker 1: And so for me as a woman, it was really
Speaker 1: interesting to tap into the idea that a woman couldn't
Speaker 1: say no.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's exact part. Cont part of it was very
Speaker 2: do you feel like whatever he asked her? Did he
Speaker 2: asked what's her name?
Speaker 6: Did you feel like you know I was Did I
Speaker 6: do something to make you She said no? And she no,
Speaker 6: She didn't say no, She said affection is always welcome.
Speaker 2: It was wow wow.
Speaker 1: And I think that as a society where women have
Speaker 1: now the right to say no, seeing that as something
Speaker 1: that they brought into the script was really interesting because
Speaker 1: it removes the choice from from women all over, like
Speaker 1: like that's essentially.
Speaker 7: What they did a good job of making it because
Speaker 7: like the man figured out her name and the woman
Speaker 7: didn't figure out the woman's had no right. Yeah, so
Speaker 7: it's like it made it murky where it's like he
Speaker 7: put in like, yeah, he made an attempt at connection.
Speaker 2: Correct, Yeah, he was investing in them as people. She didn't.
Speaker 2: She didn't.
Speaker 1: Weird because she sees them kind of like how we've
Speaker 1: perceived zombies to be zombies are not people, right, And
Speaker 1: so it was really interesting because yeah, these people are
Speaker 1: operating just in a different way of which we view society.
Speaker 1: I will say, as you watch this, you have so
Speaker 1: many themes. So there's the themes of autonomy, what makes
Speaker 1: you human? But one of my favorite scenes reminded me
Speaker 1: of where we're going with technology and AI. She goes
Speaker 1: into Sprouts and it's completely empty and she calls the
Speaker 1: people because you can call them, and she's like, yo,
Speaker 1: I just want to grocery shop, and literally she's like, well,
Speaker 1: whatever you want, we can deliver it straight to your house.
Speaker 1: So it reminds me of this era that we're going
Speaker 1: to with Amazon right now, but also with me. I
Speaker 1: get anxiety about going to the grocery store. I don't
Speaker 1: want to go to a grocery store. I like all
Speaker 1: of my whatever I want being delivered straight to my door.
Speaker 2: I love it.
Speaker 1: And you see her almost break down, where apparently going
Speaker 1: to a grocery store and walking down the aisles is
Speaker 1: a part of humanity, is a luxury is a part
Speaker 1: of again, maybe remember when we talked about what things
Speaker 1: we would miss if the world changed. She almost broke down,
Speaker 1: was like, no, all I want to do is walk
Speaker 1: down the aisles and buy my groceries. And it was
Speaker 1: really interesting to consider that as a luxury of humanity
Speaker 1: and just being human because so many of our things
Speaker 1: are being automated. AI is coming in taking over, and
Speaker 1: I do say it, what's crazy is where I love
Speaker 1: all of my groceries to be delivered to my door.
Speaker 1: One of the things I hate the most is sitting
Speaker 1: down at a restaurant and having to order my meal
Speaker 1: through a fucking iPad and then I still got a
Speaker 1: tip of bitch, no one talk to me scanning, I'm wiping,
Speaker 1: I'm adding what's being taken off. It's completely removing the
Speaker 1: the interaction, but then at the end it's still asking
Speaker 1: for a tip. The ship just came out like there
Speaker 1: was no interaction for what I wanted my order to
Speaker 1: be in the exchange of a person.
Speaker 2: Well, that scene, and there's a lot of stuff I
Speaker 2: want to I know, we don't have like forever to talk.
Speaker 1: We can talk because I like these I like dissecting,
Speaker 1: and to me.
Speaker 2: That's what makes this show interesting. And so like, if
Speaker 2: you're like a.
Speaker 6: If you're want of these niggas who like if you
Speaker 6: like a Drake fan who doesn't like here we Go,
Speaker 6: if you want of these niggas on podcast mics that
Speaker 6: talk about like they want to think about no song,
Speaker 6: I don't.
Speaker 2: Want Like this probably is not for youau.
Speaker 6: This is this show is like there's a lot it
Speaker 6: makes you think sociological and think in a way that
Speaker 6: not just the plot of it. Yeah, there's a mystery
Speaker 6: of like what's going on, but the thinking is really
Speaker 6: the sociological experiment of what this show represents right. But
Speaker 6: in that scene, the thing that I thought was the
Speaker 6: most interesting is that Carol is anti all of this shit, right,
Speaker 6: She's anti everything until that thing can't get her what
Speaker 6: she wants. And when she and not only does she
Speaker 6: get what she wanted, she got it immediately. She said,
Speaker 6: oh how long? Will I just need to know when
Speaker 6: I need to come back to the store and the
Speaker 6: late and Zosha was like, come back from be there
Speaker 6: in a second. And but this is where it's like
Speaker 6: one of the themes here is like capitalism versus socialism. Right,
Speaker 6: the whole community Carol said, I want this, I need this,
Speaker 6: I need food. The whole community instantly pulled up two
Speaker 6: hundred people, popped out trucks, and put that whole store
Speaker 6: together in a couple of hours, and now Carol had
Speaker 6: everything she wanted.
Speaker 1: So it's like it reminds me of the hypocrisy and
Speaker 1: individualism that we experience with like, Okay, you want to
Speaker 1: stand for something, right, but as soon as it kind
Speaker 1: of impacts and y'all know this is me, Actually I'm
Speaker 1: very much hypocrit Like goddamn, yeah, we blacks and we
Speaker 1: boycotton boycotton target. But when mtvs. Are a little less
Speaker 1: than they are everywhere else. I'm gonna just go get
Speaker 1: this because I want to save somebody.
Speaker 2: Because I had this money is fine.
Speaker 1: I need this and it's something that's working for me
Speaker 1: in a moment that I'm supposed to be standing for something.
Speaker 1: So Carol, do you stand for something but benefit from
Speaker 1: it when it matters to you? Only because yeah, you're
Speaker 1: you're kind of contributing to what the system is right now,
Speaker 1: but you're supposed to.
Speaker 2: Be fighting against right against it.
Speaker 6: And she's the whole thing is she's fighting all of
Speaker 6: these She's fighting all of these dualities right like even
Speaker 6: in like Carol is a miserable person, but she writes
Speaker 6: fantasy for other.
Speaker 2: People to be happy.
Speaker 6: She's miserable when this all thing, when this whole thing happens,
Speaker 6: these eleven people are all happy, but she goes like
Speaker 6: I call her Karen Carroll because that at that at
Speaker 6: that conversation on Air Force one telling them what they
Speaker 6: need to do, and she's trying to tell the Indian LA,
Speaker 6: that's not your child.
Speaker 2: She's like, bitch, that is my child, Like who the
Speaker 2: are you?
Speaker 1: I also really love that in terms of and so
Speaker 1: far we where we're at in the show, we haven't
Speaker 1: met the other people because they don't speak English.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: I really love how in the Karen way, she's the
Speaker 1: only white woman and everyone else for people of color,
Speaker 1: everybody else, and she's now trying to tell all of
Speaker 1: these people of color they need what they need to
Speaker 1: do because what she thinks is the right way, and
Speaker 1: every which way they think is the wrong one.
Speaker 2: What would make her happy, happy, should make should make happy?
Speaker 1: Twist into it.
Speaker 7: I would I agree with what your but I also
Speaker 7: think that she feels that way because her life pre
Speaker 7: the virus, it was a microcosm of that, right, Like
Speaker 7: she was she was trapped where like her fans of
Speaker 7: her book writing, they were the virus like zombies. Right,
Speaker 7: she was doing something that she didn't enjoy because, like
Speaker 7: Mandy said, like she's a lesbian, she's writings, she was closeted, right,
Speaker 7: So it's like so then when it happens, it's like
Speaker 7: on a huge scale that she sees it around the
Speaker 7: world and she I think, she's like, this is my life.
Speaker 7: This is a bit like we have to stop this.
Speaker 7: Everybody the world can't be like what I'm suffering from.
Speaker 7: And I think that's so I think, like what we've
Speaker 7: seen in the early parts of the show, it's like
Speaker 7: she's clearly traumatized and she's seeing that and and but
Speaker 7: the casting and the way that they set it up
Speaker 7: really makes it look problematic because she's the white woman
Speaker 7: who wants to speak to the English speaking people.
Speaker 1: But I think it's I think it's interesting.
Speaker 7: And there's like so many overlapping kind of themes of
Speaker 7: like choice and technology and even like the idea of.
Speaker 1: Not an standing the consequences of your asks.
Speaker 2: That part I wanted to get to too, or even
Speaker 2: of your actions.
Speaker 6: Like the show is called pluribus, right, and the essence
Speaker 6: of that is out of many one plurbis one. And
Speaker 6: so the idea is that everything that we do as
Speaker 6: individuals affects the world, right, And this has been talking
Speaker 6: about on it Really it made me think about mister
Speaker 6: Morale and the Big Steppers, and it made me think
Speaker 6: about Most Death Black on both Oh.
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah, maybe it made me thinking of Matrix.
Speaker 2: Okay, so.
Speaker 6: Most Death Black on Both Sides came out in nineteen
Speaker 6: ninety nine. There's a song on an album called Fear
Speaker 6: Not of Man, And in that song and I think
Speaker 6: it's in the beginning of the song, before he even
Speaker 6: starts rapping, he's talking and he's like, people always asking
Speaker 6: me about hip hop, where's hip hop going? Where's hip
Speaker 6: hop going? And his response is, hip hop is going
Speaker 6: wherever we're going. If we happy, hip hop is happy.
Speaker 6: If we're healthy, hip hop is healthy. If doing the
Speaker 6: right thing, hip hop is doing the right thing. It's
Speaker 6: about us reflecting the world. This is what we this
Speaker 6: is what we want to do, you know, be the
Speaker 6: change you want to see, that type of thing. Mister
Speaker 6: Morale in The Big Steppers is the whole album is
Speaker 6: based off this guy at car Toole, who's in the
Speaker 6: album as like Kendrick's therapist, and the whole concept of
Speaker 6: et car Tole is like one person reflects the society.
Speaker 6: Each of us individually reflects society. What we're going through,
Speaker 6: our traumas reflect society. The things that we're trying to
Speaker 6: change reflect society. And so this whole show is kind
Speaker 6: of centered around that whole kind of idea. Carol loses
Speaker 6: her temper, sixteen million people die. She thought she was
Speaker 6: just losing her temper for herself. It impacted all of
Speaker 6: these people that she had no idea about didn't really
Speaker 6: even give.
Speaker 7: A one peer the one Pier gave the example. She
Speaker 7: was like, my husband was driving driving and did that
Speaker 7: crash and he died, and you thought because of you.
Speaker 6: So like you can point all of these fingers as
Speaker 6: saying you're doing this, you're doing this, you're doing this.
Speaker 6: You are part of the problem too, which is crazy
Speaker 6: because being an individual, well, and we've.
Speaker 1: Talked about that in terms of climate change, global warming,
Speaker 1: we've talked about it in terms of where you purchase
Speaker 1: your clothes, because if you care about the children overseas
Speaker 1: that are working for pennies a day, why do you
Speaker 1: keep buying fast faction the Apple iPhones that we use,
Speaker 1: like it's the technology, but if it makes your life better.
Speaker 1: Sometimes again, you don't even view yourself as a part
Speaker 1: of the problem. You just want to find the bits
Speaker 1: of happiness, which is also why I call it subjective, right,
Speaker 1: But again, the things that you're partaking in, you don't
Speaker 1: understand the harm that it's causing elsewhere. And I didn't
Speaker 1: actually draw that parallel, but yes, you're very right.
Speaker 6: And so part of the thing is like what as
Speaker 6: a society, what are we willing to accept for our convenience,
Speaker 6: warm on sneeds whatever it is.
Speaker 1: Can we go down those lists with us?
Speaker 2: Like, what is one of the.
Speaker 1: Things that you do that you enjoy doing that you
Speaker 1: know may be causing harm elsewhere?
Speaker 2: Alcohol? Yeah, what do you mean by that? Every weekend
Speaker 2: I go to a bar.
Speaker 6: Every bar has a parking lot, and all those parking
Speaker 6: lots have cars in them, and all the people who
Speaker 6: are in those bars are gonna go get in those.
Speaker 2: Cars and drive away. We a society expect everyone in
Speaker 2: that bar to drink.
Speaker 6: Either either don't drink it all, drink enough to know
Speaker 6: your limit, be responsible with this dangerous thing that you have.
Speaker 2: Or call a car and don't get in that car.
Speaker 6: But everyone in there, everyone who's drinking, regardless of whether
Speaker 6: we think they should be, what their level are, Everyone's
Speaker 6: gonna get in there.
Speaker 1: I will say, it's such a Southern mindset like it's been.
Speaker 1: It's been the selective ignorance down here that I hate
Speaker 1: the most. Because I still don't have a car. I
Speaker 1: live very New York. Down here in Atlanta, I'd uber everywhere,
Speaker 1: and when I go out with my friends, you already
Speaker 1: know I'll make us super nigga, leave your car at home,
Speaker 1: come park at my house if we're gonna go out,
Speaker 1: and if you're too lit when we get back to
Speaker 1: my house, you could say the nights you I'm not
Speaker 1: getting in a car with niggas who even drink. Even
Speaker 1: the other day, like, uh, we went out and Crystal
Speaker 1: had her Tesla, and I was mad as that she
Speaker 1: came anyways, because when you go out to one place
Speaker 1: with me, you really end up at three. It's all night,
Speaker 1: and it's all night thing and we're gonna be drinking everywhere.
Speaker 1: But literally we got in the car and I was like,
Speaker 1: and I was like, no, she good. She literally didn't
Speaker 1: even finish with a boxa soda. That's that was her
Speaker 1: only drink. I was like, okay, well maybe if we
Speaker 1: do shots, if we do more than one drink, I'm
Speaker 1: not getting in the car with you.
Speaker 6: And that's the thing like I've always had, like a
Speaker 6: I would used to have. Well, I don't really drink. Honestly,
Speaker 6: most I drink with y'all. By the way, you don't
Speaker 6: even know meaning it's not an extraordinary mind.
Speaker 1: That night I bought a bottle. We would out bought
Speaker 1: a bottle these we closed. It wasn't legend. Shout out,
Speaker 1: shout out, this was this was way weekend up music.
Speaker 1: After the second After the second night, we end up
Speaker 1: going out to my favorite spot, m c K. We
Speaker 1: get a table, my friend buying bottles and buy bottles
Speaker 1: because I said, no, we need a table. We go out. Baby,
Speaker 1: we had a tom But I'm not gonna lie drink
Speaker 1: way too much.
Speaker 2: But again it's like drink way too much.
Speaker 6: But that's the thing about it. But I'm saying, but
Speaker 6: the O, but the hog. But the bigger, the bigger
Speaker 6: picture of it is is that society we've accepted that.
Speaker 2: Some people are going to get d u y. Some
Speaker 2: people are gonna die every single year.
Speaker 6: Having a good time, families, kids, dogs, People are going
Speaker 6: to die and d UIs every single year. Guaranteed me,
Speaker 6: every single day. Society is not ever going to say
Speaker 6: we're going back to prohibition. If you had a vote
Speaker 6: to say we're going back to removing alcohol, it will
Speaker 6: unanimously get shot down by everybody because no one's going
Speaker 6: to give up their alcohol. And how many people die
Speaker 6: of DUIs, Well, what's that number that you're willing to accept.
Speaker 6: Charlie Kirk got himself in a lot of trouble after
Speaker 6: he died because he said that comment about the Second Amendment.
Speaker 2: He said, I think it's worth it to have this
Speaker 2: price for certain people to die.
Speaker 6: And people are mad about that, And I understand it
Speaker 6: because it's a different topic a little bit and people
Speaker 6: are sensitive to that concept. But what he was saying
Speaker 6: what I'm what I'm what I'm hearing when he says that,
Speaker 6: is that that doesn't just apply to guns.
Speaker 2: That applies to a lot of shit.
Speaker 1: Just the value proposition against against.
Speaker 2: Decisions, And like, how many people? What is that number?
Speaker 6: Like the same way you say everybody has a price,
Speaker 6: every we're all accepting a certain number.
Speaker 2: What is that number of people that something to be
Speaker 2: happy that we like? What's your happiness for us? Do
Speaker 2: we want to do?
Speaker 8: What?
Speaker 2: And what is that number? Is it fifty thousand people?
Speaker 2: Is it one hundred thousand people? Is it five million?
Speaker 6: The number the number that we don't have to know about,
Speaker 6: because that's why we're going the dog and we go
Speaker 6: and bodies think we know about the factories, but we
Speaker 6: still go and shot and go and do this.
Speaker 2: You don't, you don't, you don't leave the store pain,
Speaker 2: you don't have no you don't leave the store in shame.
Speaker 6: You're not hiding your iPhone. The article ain't in that moment,
Speaker 6: you're like damn, damn.
Speaker 7: But there's still but there's still a tension within those decisions.
Speaker 7: And that's what makes like the like the world that
Speaker 7: we live in versus like the show where there's like
Speaker 7: it's just it's just all clear from the.
Speaker 1: Gates, everything exactly.
Speaker 7: You don't have to worry about it. What it's like
Speaker 7: with us like influences like should I buy this or not?
Speaker 7: Should I have that third drink or not? Are we
Speaker 7: going to do shots or not?
Speaker 1: And you influences and that is the choice. But this
Speaker 1: is a way to put it right, Joah. Roughly twelve
Speaker 1: to fourteen thousand people a year die in alcohol impaired crashes.
Speaker 1: Would you stop drinking to save if you knew your
Speaker 1: drink your drinking ability could save twelve to fourteen thousand
Speaker 1: people a year? Would you stop drinking today?
Speaker 8: No?
Speaker 1: See? Okay, Okay? I think and I think that that's
Speaker 1: the interesting part because when we talk about this idea
Speaker 1: of world peace and coming together as one in humanity,
Speaker 1: when we really dig deep into what are what makes
Speaker 1: us happy and our individualism. It's why I don't believe
Speaker 1: we can never meet come to a place of world
Speaker 1: peace because and I love the reality and you being
Speaker 1: real and the fact that yeah, nah, twelve to fourteen
Speaker 1: thousand people, I don't know them, niggas. I want to
Speaker 1: have a drink.
Speaker 2: I want to have this Hennessy.
Speaker 1: It's gonna make me feel Goodah.
Speaker 2: I want this represent real quick for me.
Speaker 1: And I mentioned it earlier Fast Fashion as mine. For sure,
Speaker 1: y'all have heard me be ignorant hell to say, I know,
Speaker 1: I know a kid made this T shirt. This is
Speaker 1: she Ian, bitch. I know a kid was slaving away
Speaker 1: for the T shirt. And in terms of child labor,
Speaker 1: h if I stopped buying from she and Fashion, no bizarre,
Speaker 1: these kids might have a better life.
Speaker 2: No no, because someone else will.
Speaker 1: But also that might be the only means of them
Speaker 1: to make money, even if.
Speaker 2: It's get that.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's what I'm saying, whether it's five cents
Speaker 1: or not. The way we view child labor here in
Speaker 1: the States is different than other people, which is the
Speaker 1: same way if you if you really want to draw parallels,
Speaker 1: same thing with no monogamy, polygamy and polyamory and other
Speaker 1: parts of the world are viewed drastically different than how
Speaker 1: we view it here in the Western hemisphere. Before we
Speaker 1: go ahead just makes me sound even more.
Speaker 2: No, just in the concept of the movie, the series.
Speaker 6: Now the episode you mentioned you had difficulty with the
Speaker 6: cleaning services.
Speaker 2: Uh last week, last right last? But would you.
Speaker 6: Would that be part of you want a bunch of
Speaker 6: people say hey, Mandy, we're gonna clean.
Speaker 2: We know you want, so we're here to clean your apartment.
Speaker 1: Lie, I've already said I would want to be a
Speaker 1: part of taking advantage of everybody advantage.
Speaker 2: But you don't want to be What does that mean?
Speaker 2: That means you're the I'm worse than.
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe maybe the way that we be outside season two,
Speaker 1: the way we be out a method man, give me
Speaker 1: some dick, run run it up. But that's what that's.
Speaker 1: No one can say no to me, bro clean my
Speaker 1: house like And I guess that's where again the the
Speaker 1: idea to of of humanity to me and especially as
Speaker 1: a woman, is the right for us to have a
Speaker 1: choice to say no, is the right to be actually
Speaker 1: what we want to do, not what someone else wants
Speaker 1: us to do. And it's it's very interesting to watch
Speaker 1: this too, because it's kind of again, what we see
Speaker 1: that French character do and where our mind goes is
Speaker 1: essentially no different than what we what happened for four
Speaker 1: hundred years with slavery, you know, like they didn't have
Speaker 1: the choice to say no, I don't want to do this,
Speaker 1: but they were at the mercy of what someone else wanted,
Speaker 1: whether it be crops.
Speaker 7: Whether it be cleaning, whether it be But that's an
Speaker 7: interesting example because it sucks up both sides. It does,
Speaker 7: like it not only fuck up like the people who
Speaker 7: are experiencing it, but the people who are making those
Speaker 7: decisions throughout the four hundred years. They're all fucked up,
Speaker 7: which is why.
Speaker 1: To me it was interesting because there's a battle with
Speaker 1: Carol being the Karen of wanting to change it back
Speaker 1: to what society was, and because there is a toggle
Speaker 1: to where wait, this isn't right, but yes it is
Speaker 1: a better world, but is it really? Because now these
Speaker 1: people don't have choices.
Speaker 7: So so look, let me land my like my matrix
Speaker 7: point real Q like you bringing it up, but like
Speaker 7: the matrix, so been in the matrix there was an
Speaker 7: example about like the world and they were doing and
Speaker 7: so it's like the first time they did it, it
Speaker 7: was all perfection and people were unhappy. It was the
Speaker 7: same things, world peace, you don't have to worry about murders,
Speaker 7: and people found unhappiness and that because they didn't have choice.
Speaker 7: So then he went like the complete opposite the architect,
Speaker 7: and he made it like war, famine and like and
Speaker 7: and again with that like that that people were just
Speaker 7: as unhappy. So then they found it someplace in the
Speaker 7: middle where they had choice, right, and so like even
Speaker 7: if you have a semblance of choice, it's like, you know,
Speaker 7: it could be such a minimum thing where it's like
Speaker 7: what I wear today, and you know some some people
Speaker 7: have other means and they have bigger choices.
Speaker 1: But it's it's it's somewhere in between.
Speaker 7: And I think it's funny to call her to Karen,
Speaker 7: and there is like Karen behaviors in it. But also
Speaker 7: but I think she's fighting for the idea of like
Speaker 7: let's have choice. Like when she says like, that's not
Speaker 7: your family, because her children will listen to everything she
Speaker 7: says with no qush back her husband, our husband will listen,
Speaker 7: and that so it's like everybody they don't have a
Speaker 7: ch so now you're dealing with people who don't have choice,
Speaker 7: and that's not real either. I think that's kind of
Speaker 7: like her pursuit more than's.
Speaker 6: But I think that there's an inherent idea that like,
Speaker 6: we value choice, value, but we value.
Speaker 1: That's not We're in a democracy where we believe we
Speaker 1: have a choice, and even who correct.
Speaker 7: And I would even say we value the emotion behind
Speaker 7: the idea of choice, because sometimes they don't even really
Speaker 7: have a real choice.
Speaker 6: And what that's the part I was going to get
Speaker 6: to is that we we value choice, but we also
Speaker 6: see choice as the happiness we do.
Speaker 2: And choice does not have to be the happiness. Choice
Speaker 2: can be the thing that funcks you over.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, because you could. There's right and wrong, wrong,
Speaker 1: choose choose wrong.
Speaker 6: Someone else has a choice too. You do something and
Speaker 6: that someone else reacts to I ran down. I ran
Speaker 6: down on the guy or the home Depot van pulled
Speaker 6: up on him. It wasn't him, right now, I okay,
Speaker 6: I made that choice. He could have made a choice.
Speaker 6: He could have made a choice to be like, who the.
Speaker 2: Fuck is this?
Speaker 8: Like this?
Speaker 2: And it just castays down.
Speaker 6: That guy gets out the car tries to shoot me,
Speaker 6: but he misses, he hits somebody across the street with
Speaker 6: a bullet because of them all, because I went down
Speaker 6: there confronting him. He made a choice. Then his choice
Speaker 6: affected that person over there should to do what was
Speaker 6: going on.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's tricky if you haven't seen it, because when
Speaker 1: the series ends, and I do hope Apple TV is
Speaker 1: not really or they are notorious for seasons not going
Speaker 1: very long over there, which I don't know why because
Speaker 1: we all got these Apple phones. I don't know why
Speaker 1: I hate the series that are six or but because
Speaker 1: it's from the creator, Like I said, Breaking Bad and
Speaker 1: Better Cross Sault shout out to Vinci.
Speaker 2: Are you expecting a plot twist?
Speaker 1: I am expecting. I am expecting that this show kind
Speaker 1: of like, what's the one I really like, you know,
Speaker 1: what's what's the guy that I really with? The black
Speaker 1: guy at the end of the world. Oh, that is
Speaker 1: already locked into a season two that I went, Oh,
Speaker 1: you're talking about Sterling h Sterling K.
Speaker 7: Brown on Hulu Hulu Sterling K Come on Journalism, Jason Paradise, Paradise.
Speaker 1: So what I'm hoping is that season two for this
Speaker 1: has already been written and they're just they just need
Speaker 1: agree like to where they go straight into because what
Speaker 1: I'm also hating is like the fact that Stranger Things
Speaker 1: just released, but released what three years later?
Speaker 2: Like Jesus Christ, especially with show this one thing. If
Speaker 2: the show is just kind of like I'm getting into
Speaker 2: that too, I want to talk about but.
Speaker 6: It showed it like this that has like deep things unpacked,
Speaker 6: Like you can't give us six episodes and expect us
Speaker 6: to get the whole.
Speaker 1: We need to be more good.
Speaker 7: I think the good thing is they're TV people doing it.
Speaker 7: They're not like movie people. Yes, Plara, shooting and doing TV,
Speaker 7: which is what you're busy.
Speaker 1: I'm excited by this. Uh And celebrities say the darnest things, y'all.
Speaker 1: I'm the celebrity apparently. So a couple of weeks ago,
Speaker 1: of course, Rory, my good friend Rory, who I'm not canceling.
Speaker 1: So and I'm not gonna sit here and go through
Speaker 1: why people were trying to cancel him. It's a couple
Speaker 1: of weeks old now. But so when I guess, I
Speaker 1: don't know what they thought they were doing. I don't
Speaker 1: know if they were warning me or blackmailing me. But
Speaker 1: I got sweat out it was weird. I got emailed
Speaker 1: my tweets from twenty eleven through twenty thirteen, and they
Speaker 1: clearly decided to search the word blacks and black women.
Speaker 2: And that's so that's going to be the highest search
Speaker 2: thing in.
Speaker 1: The Twitter over the next over the next month. If
Speaker 1: you spoke about blacks or black women and you are
Speaker 1: a black person, they are coming to see what the
Speaker 1: fuck you had to say. Now, because I am me,
Speaker 1: I am she, I am going to read some of
Speaker 1: these tweets or you know what, maybe I'll have Jason
Speaker 1: read them so that I can respond. And this is
Speaker 1: kind of a mix of celebrities say the darness things
Speaker 1: but also double down or take it back, and so
Speaker 1: you will in real time see me double down or
Speaker 1: take it back with explanations.
Speaker 7: So so they emailed you, They emailed me a number
Speaker 7: a number of tweets. Yeah it was.
Speaker 1: It was seven seven tweets with just question mark as
Speaker 1: a subject line. That's the part the strange shout out
Speaker 1: to gena abuse. So me and Gina was talking about
Speaker 1: all this ship what was happening. So I sent her
Speaker 1: this email that bitch found that nigga cash app all
Speaker 1: the things because I got your email. So we were searching.
Speaker 1: His name is Joshua. I forgot the last name, but
Speaker 1: any who, we found your cash out nigga, And what
Speaker 1: are you doing this for? I don't know if you're
Speaker 1: a fan or oh, but suck my dick from the back. Anyways,
Speaker 1: I am going to now double down or take it back.
Speaker 1: And then I do want to lean into y'all because
Speaker 1: we've all been a part of black Twitter kind of
Speaker 1: what this timeframe of tweets was, what it means to
Speaker 1: actually change or evolve or stay the same. So go ahead.
Speaker 7: A tweet from Mandy May fifth, twenty seventeen. I read
Speaker 7: the comment. I read the comments, often black women, the spies,
Speaker 7: black men with any women lighter than them, dot dot
Speaker 7: dot double.
Speaker 1: Down, dug, bro, it's still happening. And this was twenty seventeen.
Speaker 1: The other ones are all like twenty eleven to twenty thirteen.
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, black women hate to see black men with
Speaker 1: any black black women. Okay, don't saynes okay, So joh,
Speaker 1: how about this one? Joah.
Speaker 7: August fifteenth, twenty thirteen, ten to fifteen in the morning,
Speaker 7: Mandy thought, this is crazy. My preference in women isn't
Speaker 7: black women? But lawd, do I have my exceptions? Dot
Speaker 7: dot dot you like lips?
Speaker 1: Okay, now here's the thing.
Speaker 2: Here's the thing.
Speaker 1: This one sounds bad.
Speaker 7: Bad, she said her prep she doesn't what I like
Speaker 7: hast covered, which is because my preference.
Speaker 1: And men is only black men now at this time.
Speaker 6: She's like, the whites with the long hair wouldn't know
Speaker 6: better than the NBA player.
Speaker 2: You ready, you played for the Pacers.
Speaker 1: Nigga, you want to know what's funny?
Speaker 8: You know?
Speaker 1: I just talked about that, and you know I had
Speaker 1: I had a threesome this year with my first white
Speaker 1: woman with an NBA player, and I told him, I said, nigga,
Speaker 1: not you making me my first white Yeah, but I
Speaker 1: don't like white women experience.
Speaker 2: If you want.
Speaker 1: She was kind of fun, she I was gonna say,
Speaker 1: she probably knew what to do with that mouth. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was nice. It was cute. Uh would I do
Speaker 1: it again? And it wouldn't be my preference, you know,
Speaker 1: but if it happens, it happens. I'm double down and
Speaker 1: taking this back because only because this was from twenty thirteen,
Speaker 1: my preference now is only black women. I really don't
Speaker 1: no pink nipples. Yeah, I like the little butter Scotch.
Speaker 1: But you know, all of my women that I've dealt
Speaker 1: with in the past five six years plus have all
Speaker 1: been black women. Let's go back to pre like just
Speaker 1: a couple of days before Christmas.
Speaker 2: That's crazy.
Speaker 7: Twenty eleven, eight thirty six in the morning, Joah, when
Speaker 7: the coal out of eye.
Speaker 2: Right in a tooth brush? What I say, talk and shit?
Speaker 1: She said our quote she threw.
Speaker 7: The quotes around this are quote unquote black girls still
Speaker 7: throwing shade at black men for dating white, white skinned women.
Speaker 7: Rose Eyes waits for valid response. Why did you put
Speaker 7: black girls in quotes?
Speaker 2: Really?
Speaker 1: Trump?
Speaker 2: What did you about? That?
Speaker 1: Very clear? Because I included light skinned women. So the
Speaker 1: quotes around the black girls were the darker skinned women
Speaker 1: who also lean into I don't want to say reverse colorism,
Speaker 1: but they line up to with the light skinned black
Speaker 1: women who also go with black men. Right Like there's
Speaker 1: wars between Okay, are you dark skin, brown skin, light skin?
Speaker 1: Like the colorism of the spectrum. Sometimes light skin black
Speaker 1: girls get grouped into oh, he's only with you because
Speaker 1: you're light skin and maybe and I don't know. Again,
Speaker 1: This is from twenty eleven, twenty thirteen. I don't know
Speaker 1: what was on the timeline that was like why is
Speaker 1: this a thing? And I've always questioned like why is
Speaker 1: this a thing? And to be fair, it's been questioned
Speaker 1: about me, like where women have told me, oh, but
Speaker 1: you don't count as a black girl because you're biracial
Speaker 1: or you real light skin, or so there's been conversations
Speaker 1: about me saying, oh, I'm black and this man is
Speaker 1: dating a black Yeah, but you like skin. So to me,
Speaker 1: it's just still questioning things. I do want to get
Speaker 1: into the ones that I absolutely double down on and
Speaker 1: don't understand why fourteen years later there is still questions
Speaker 1: about it. So let's get into. Because you're you're going into,
Speaker 1: you're reading ones that are all the same. I got
Speaker 1: this one.
Speaker 7: This next one feels a little I was gonna say,
Speaker 7: speaking a mix this next one.
Speaker 1: August tenth, twenty eleven. You see this one.
Speaker 7: But when I say I'm white, people completely ignore that
Speaker 7: because I'm half black.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: But even now, black.
Speaker 7: People will walk around calling each other the nbomb all
Speaker 7: day long in Bomb Man, that's like the white side
Speaker 7: of EA and Bomb. But they want to get their
Speaker 7: panties in a bunch when another race says it fuck
Speaker 7: out of here.
Speaker 1: The N word is overrated.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 1: In box side, people are so sensitive to things, which
Speaker 1: is also crazy because if you go to literally another
Speaker 1: tweet around that I'm talking about the in word, and
Speaker 1: I say, it's sensitive ignorance, but also it's why I
Speaker 1: don't allow any of my friends who are not black
Speaker 1: to say it. You could read that verbatim. But there's
Speaker 1: two around the same thing, which is crazy because clearly
Speaker 1: my only tweets around blacks and black people and black
Speaker 1: women are all about the same ship, which I'm doubling
Speaker 1: down on the day to.
Speaker 2: Obama.
Speaker 1: Still No twenty eleven, I was in Miami twenty eleven,
Speaker 1: I was living saying.
Speaker 6: I'm trying to see what what might have been your
Speaker 6: experiences on the social level that I mean.
Speaker 1: I was in the club, but also you guys also
Speaker 1: was So nigga is a word that know, all you
Speaker 1: Puerto Ricans, Cubans, Dominicans shouldn't be saying. But then at
Speaker 1: the same time, you have a lot of Afro Caribbean
Speaker 1: people who don't know nigga is not a part of
Speaker 1: their Nigga's an American word, and so it's just like
Speaker 1: the N word was. And again, maybe to me at
Speaker 1: the time, I'm not surrounded by Black Americans. Everyone using
Speaker 1: it is everything but black American. So maybe at this
Speaker 1: time I also maybe wasn't using the in word as
Speaker 1: as fluently. I did live in Atlanta for a little bit,
Speaker 1: and then I mean, my just whole circle is black people,
Speaker 1: but growing up in Florida, No, I think everyone that's
Speaker 1: using it isn't really African American.
Speaker 6: I actually because sometimes when we tweet these things spec let's.
Speaker 2: Be very special experience moment.
Speaker 1: But at this time, in the moment, you see, they
Speaker 1: was trying to say Obama wasn't black, So me, as
Speaker 1: a biracial girl, they definitely was trying to say, which
Speaker 1: is why even when I say I'm white. Maybe at
Speaker 1: this time I even thought I could say that I
Speaker 1: was white and you were like, you're You're like twenty one, No,
Speaker 1: nineteen twenty twenty one. That's when these tweets are like, yeah,
Speaker 1: maybe at the time I thought otherworldly as a biracial
Speaker 1: I could identify as either or right now today, with
Speaker 1: enough lived experience, no bitch, I'm black. I'd have lived
Speaker 1: in Singapore. I done went abroad. I didn't even have
Speaker 1: a passport while I was tweeting these, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. I got my passport when I was twenty
Speaker 1: two years old. So this is the ignorance of me
Speaker 1: being in America, living in Florida, where most people are
Speaker 1: not African American. Like, if you're black, oftentimes your family's
Speaker 1: from Haiti or Jamaica or the islands. Like, it's just different,
Speaker 1: and they don't identify as African American. They identify as
Speaker 1: the island that they're from. So that's where this comes from.
Speaker 1: By the way, the other two tweets is what I
Speaker 1: wanted to get into. If you don't mind buck using
Speaker 1: the N word as much, I want to get into
Speaker 1: the other two things the light girl first tweets, first tweet,
Speaker 1: second line, Let's get into it because this is still
Speaker 1: my goal and I haven't done a really good job
Speaker 1: at it. Let's get into these two things that are
Speaker 1: still an issue within our community.
Speaker 7: I'm make it my goal in life to teach black
Speaker 7: people how to tip.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, let's get and then hashtag. I'm just saying
Speaker 1: this probably comes from me being a bartender, me being
Speaker 1: a server because that's not good at this time. And
Speaker 1: do you know how embarrassing it is to work in
Speaker 1: an atmosphere around other people of other colors and hear
Speaker 1: them talk about us to where they don't want to
Speaker 1: serve you. They don't care to give you that much
Speaker 1: of good service because there is a stereotype that it
Speaker 1: doesn't matter how good the service is, how above and
Speaker 1: beyond I go. Black people don't tip. And I hated
Speaker 1: that I was experiencing that at the hands of my
Speaker 1: own people, because I wanted to believe that this is
Speaker 1: just a stereotype. And I don't like that my coworkers
Speaker 1: are saying the same thing. And unfortunately, and it could
Speaker 1: be a socioeconomic thing, right, I get that sometimes you
Speaker 1: make just enough to finally enjoy a meal outside and
Speaker 1: you don't consider that tipping is a part of that part.
Speaker 1: And so again I'm gonna blame the socioeconomic oppression that
Speaker 1: has ravaged our community. However, however, still in twenty twenty five,
Speaker 1: when was this sweet? This was twenty eleven, twenty eleven,
Speaker 1: April sixteenth, damn it, fourteen years later, you niggas still don't.
Speaker 2: Know how to tip. Yeah, I listen, we see it
Speaker 2: all the time.
Speaker 6: Yeah, we've had arguments about this amongst unnamed coworkers, but
Speaker 6: like we talked about this in the office, just shooting
Speaker 6: and shit.
Speaker 2: It's like damn like.
Speaker 6: There was there was one of our coworkers in particular
Speaker 6: that was just adamant about.
Speaker 2: Like, that's not my problem. Second, you see what I mean.
Speaker 2: I was like, yeah, you're right, I'm paying for the fool.
Speaker 1: Okay, so they take your ass through McDonald's drive through,
Speaker 1: but go if you were gonna take it to go,
Speaker 1: If you're gonna sit down and receive a service, there
Speaker 1: needs to be a tip.
Speaker 2: Well also, which I also find interesting.
Speaker 1: I don't know if y'all saw on Twitter last week
Speaker 1: they uploaded a blank receipt and we're literally asking how
Speaker 1: much tip do you live leave? It was like hundred
Speaker 1: and thirty one dollars and some change, And it was
Speaker 1: interesting to see what people thought they should leave as
Speaker 1: a tip. Now I go straight to mind you. I
Speaker 1: was one hundred and twenty dollars and then I count
Speaker 1: by fives based on that, so I was like, okay,
Speaker 1: one thirty one, I'm leaving a twenty six dollars tip.
Speaker 1: Then you had people that wanted to get into the change.
Speaker 1: The change is saying the same, I'm not doing yump
Speaker 1: you're doing. But it was interesting to see like he's
Speaker 1: leaving ten dollars on it, like the idea of even
Speaker 1: the percentage that should be left based on what you're spending.
Speaker 7: We still don't know, Like maybe it's selective ignorance, bad
Speaker 7: bad service with bad service, Mandy, do you load chip
Speaker 7: or no?
Speaker 1: Low tip? They ten percent percent? That's my low tip.
Speaker 1: If it's really bad service, you didn't come check on
Speaker 1: the table I sat there was drinking air because you
Speaker 1: refuse even I don't I don't know tip, but at
Speaker 1: ten percent tip when.
Speaker 6: Here's the thing for me, it's like with tipping, even
Speaker 6: with the socioeconomic part of it, right, like which which
Speaker 6: is a fair thing to say though, because okay, I
Speaker 6: get that, but.
Speaker 2: What are you gonna do with the eight dollars.
Speaker 1: Put it towards something else?
Speaker 2: What are you gonna do with the ten?
Speaker 6: Like I can see if it if the tip had
Speaker 6: to be something crazy and you're like, I'm not paying
Speaker 6: double the amount of this object. But it's like if
Speaker 6: you could buy a five hundred dollars dinner, then you
Speaker 6: can afford one hundred dollars tip.
Speaker 1: But I'm even talking about say the fifty dollars dinner
Speaker 1: you're leaving three dollars should be ten dollars.
Speaker 2: But that's that's the same. But are you are you
Speaker 2: that hard press for the ten bucks? Are you gonna
Speaker 2: do with the I.
Speaker 7: Think people, I think I think people walk in and
Speaker 7: they just know they're not gonna tip.
Speaker 1: But they're just trifling and they're just like, no matter.
Speaker 6: What they do, like, I'm keeping my money to give you,
Speaker 6: no extra money, and that's what you just pay thirty
Speaker 6: five dollars for margarita that cost three dollars.
Speaker 1: But the stereotype is that it's us doing it. Yeah
Speaker 1: and so, and by the way, stereotype white people are tricky.
Speaker 1: Y'all know who tips the most? Let me ask y'all
Speaker 1: who let me who do y'all think tips the most?
Speaker 1: I think it's either white men or Latin men. Nope, women, Okay,
Speaker 1: by the way, it's not a color, you ready, it's women,
Speaker 1: the gays a gay wait, wait, gay doesn't matter, doesn't matter.
Speaker 1: The color could be Latino. I worked gay nights. I've
Speaker 1: been my lived experience, my lived experience, and also just
Speaker 1: other bartenders who may even be straight. I know straight
Speaker 1: straight men that will go fucking bartend and boxers, that's
Speaker 1: just one of the ones I know in New York.
Speaker 1: But gay men, especially if you're quick, funny, look attractive,
Speaker 1: you're just gonna get so much more tips, like and
Speaker 1: they just they do the least bitch they want a
Speaker 1: Bokasota like maybe a fucking surely niggas could be ordering
Speaker 1: Shirley Temples and they're gonna tip like. Gay men doesn't
Speaker 1: matter the color, are the best tippers out there. And
Speaker 1: then maybe if you're in fine dining, then sure, white
Speaker 1: men or I'm not even gonna say white men, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna say business cards. If you know that it's a
Speaker 1: business meeting and it's going on on the business, then
Speaker 1: you're gonna get tipped well or over. But to me,
Speaker 1: all the gay men tip the best.
Speaker 2: That's interesting.
Speaker 6: I mean, I guess there's a level of selective ignorance
Speaker 6: that I could apply to that and say do for
Speaker 6: for gay men outside of being accosted for your sexuality,
Speaker 6: I feel like for a lot of gay men, perhaps
Speaker 6: the worst thing you could be is raggedy.
Speaker 7: Or be.
Speaker 2: What's the word I'm looking for, like not have couse
Speaker 2: or not know how to treat people, or not know
Speaker 2: how to.
Speaker 6: Conduct yourself toward others that maybe they feel like I'm
Speaker 6: not going to be that.
Speaker 1: Maybe and I don't know the answer, but going to
Speaker 1: call me when I tell you gay men like you're
Speaker 1: not gonna do that? They tip the best, they tip
Speaker 1: the best. And then here's another one. The last one.
Speaker 1: There was a joke there about the tip and gay
Speaker 1: man that no, I mean, honestly, just as long as
Speaker 1: you add comedians to your bio, you can you know,
Speaker 1: you can literally say whatever you want to. Go ahead,
Speaker 1: and did you make that change? If you want to
Speaker 1: read that? That second one on the bottom, this is
Speaker 1: another one I am doubling completely down on.
Speaker 7: Is this the thirty minutes late and still the first
Speaker 7: bitch here? Yes, I damn black people.
Speaker 1: What is we still use CP time and black people
Speaker 1: are doubling down on being late? So yes, I have
Speaker 1: a problem with the fact that I showed up somewhere
Speaker 1: thirty minutes late and still was the first bitch there.
Speaker 1: And it clearly was a black swell rat it was
Speaker 1: our people. It was an event hosted ran by our people.
Speaker 1: Is it late if there's such a thing as CEP time,
Speaker 1: And we all see what I mean.
Speaker 2: I don't like I don't like that we like.
Speaker 1: This is a question, that's just a question. The way
Speaker 1: I learned it, No, no, no, the way that I
Speaker 1: learned it heavily in Atlanta, Georgia. Here's the thing. When
Speaker 1: And y'all know I like industry shit. When you when when?
Speaker 1: When there's an event going on in New York, Oh, baby,
Speaker 1: you better be there before or open a lot. Seven
Speaker 1: means seven in New York. It's going to be crazy
Speaker 1: the whole sidewalk. And everyone thinks they're important, and so
Speaker 1: they walk right up to the front and it gets chaotic.
Speaker 1: So if there's an event, specifically an industry event, if
Speaker 1: it's say seven o'clock, you better be already pulling up
Speaker 1: about six fifty to make sure New York on time
Speaker 1: and it ends on time, because baby car, it's done now.
Speaker 1: But and there'll be somewhere where the overflow goes next, right,
Speaker 1: I realize now. And Atlants, if you show up on
Speaker 1: time here, you're gonna be helping set up Hold on,
Speaker 1: hold on. If an event starts at seven, the door
Speaker 1: is not even gonna open till seven forty five. Yeah, Like,
Speaker 1: but on the fire since seven o'clock.
Speaker 2: Don't get a fucked by what the fuck?
Speaker 1: So I've caught myself being like and mind you, I'm celebrity,
Speaker 1: I'm supposed to show up fashion me. No, I'm the
Speaker 1: first one there, Like niggas are still blowing balloons, right,
Speaker 1: And I'm like, oh wow, so here it's bothering me
Speaker 1: that when I see an event that says they start
Speaker 1: at seven or eight, I gotta show up at ten.
Speaker 6: And you gotta tell people, you gotta tell no, there
Speaker 6: starts at seven thirty. It starts at eight thirty.
Speaker 1: No, you ready here? Just everyone is showing up three
Speaker 1: hours late. So imagine the events like that really have
Speaker 1: to end at a certain time. Bro, everyone's showing up
Speaker 1: for the last thirty minute. Nobody's here for the whole event.
Speaker 2: What's punctuality drilled into you as a child?
Speaker 1: Like what took a question?
Speaker 2: Were you?
Speaker 6: Because my girl is like that, she's an event producer, right,
Speaker 6: and she's like very much about like this goes in
Speaker 6: this sequence, it's time, this is doors, this is this
Speaker 6: is this is this.
Speaker 1: I'll be honest with you. I think it came from
Speaker 1: a I believed in. I mean, most of us as millennials,
Speaker 1: thought we would be rewarded for perfect attendance and shit
Speaker 1: like that, right, But for me, when kids came in
Speaker 1: late to class, which I was always really big with
Speaker 1: my studies, my academia, it bothered me that if people
Speaker 1: walked in late, they disrupted the entire class. So it
Speaker 1: was the disruption I just it ingrained into me that oh,
Speaker 1: you disrespectful. You think this is on your time? You
Speaker 1: know what time it starts. We've already gotten into curriculum.
Speaker 1: And now fuck everybody here that showed up on time
Speaker 1: because you chose to be late. We all got to
Speaker 1: stop what we're doing the lesson. The teacher has to
Speaker 1: address you. You're now pulling out your desk, making all
Speaker 1: the noise. Even if we try to, even if we
Speaker 1: try to ignore you, you're still disrupt And so to me,
Speaker 1: I've just my entire life I've viewed it as a
Speaker 1: sign of disrespect. But also as someone who took pride
Speaker 1: in showing up on time and being present, I always
Speaker 1: felt like, what makes you think you don't have to
Speaker 1: show up on time? Why? And to me it was
Speaker 1: always just again back to the individualism that a lot
Speaker 1: of us have. To me, I just always view it's
Speaker 1: funny because the people listening, like when we have meet
Speaker 1: and greets and when we've done things for decisions, decisions,
Speaker 1: they be like, Steitch, be on time. They know I
Speaker 1: don't like shit, just like why are you late? And
Speaker 1: so for me, I've genuinely viewed it as a sign
Speaker 1: of disrespect. I literally just had to have a conversation
Speaker 1: with a friend to where I brought it up in
Speaker 1: therapy and I was like, this, We've been friends for
Speaker 1: I don't know, fifteen years or so, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: she's never on time, and a part of me is
Speaker 1: starting to despise and feel like I can't be friends
Speaker 1: with her because there's no way she respects me as
Speaker 1: a person because every time we're together she's late.
Speaker 6: Count Ever, ever, my mom says that a lot thatspect,
Speaker 6: but you don't give a fuck. She said, come early
Speaker 6: and wait on me because I'm gonna be on time, right,
Speaker 6: especially late, because then what you know.
Speaker 1: What I mean, because then what is it? And so yeah,
Speaker 1: for me, for me, that's that, and I just hate
Speaker 1: that within our community specifically, which is why I'm doubling
Speaker 1: down on these two tweets that we have the stereotype
Speaker 1: that we don't tip, which means we don't respect service
Speaker 1: or good service. But guess what, We're gonna beat up
Speaker 1: first and the loudest to complain when the service ain't good,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? And then for me, yeah,
Speaker 1: not not respecting people's time. I think that's the bare minimum.
Speaker 1: Showing up on time is the bare minimum of what
Speaker 1: you should expect from another human being, and I don't
Speaker 1: think we show ups that way. Everything else was yeah,
Speaker 1: me talking about the N word and black women and
Speaker 1: black men not liking black women, which is also the
Speaker 1: craziest thing that I do want to say about this
Speaker 1: entire thing. You know who has the most to say
Speaker 1: about black women on the internets on Beyonce's Internet, black men.
Speaker 1: So the fact that black men who also had history,
Speaker 1: the black men who also had the history I'm talking
Speaker 1: down on black women being mad at Rory for saying
Speaker 1: it about black women. I was just like, bro, we
Speaker 1: went like Jay's with the pots calling the kettle black.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I was just like a lot of
Speaker 2: the group chest that. I mean a lot of black
Speaker 2: women were bringing up that same thing. They were looking
Speaker 2: at the names of the people who was like cursing
Speaker 2: Rory out and talking about and was looking at them
Speaker 2: like you got a weird case. Yeah, yeah, you got
Speaker 2: a weird case. Remember writing the pandemic, right, that is hilarious.
Speaker 1: You know, facts facts, So to me it was just
Speaker 1: it's just interesting, like what what is it? Don't throw
Speaker 1: rocks and houses?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, but if you were.
Speaker 7: Black people, that's up phrases too. In a tweets you
Speaker 7: can bring that up a few things.
Speaker 2: We're gonna up your phrase and we're gonna add on that.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, I hate that.
Speaker 2: Mind you.
Speaker 1: I'm from Orlando. It's the Orlando magic, not Magic's in oxtail.
Speaker 1: As a Jamaican, there's no planting like.
Speaker 2: And I'm not jamaking either, but may.
Speaker 1: Pissed me, but yeah, like so for me, like in
Speaker 1: terms of everyone having an opinion, cool, you could have it.
Speaker 1: But if you've been a perpetrator of what you're trying
Speaker 1: to be the holy grail around the way.
Speaker 2: Shut the fuck up, Joshua. We'll send you that emails.
Speaker 2: By the way, got question mark.
Speaker 1: Anyone wondering if I responded to this email? I did,
Speaker 1: and I said, Oh, you thought you ate with this? Huh?
Speaker 2: Did he respond?
Speaker 1: No, he didn't because he realized he was hungry. He
Speaker 1: did not eat. In fact, with this email. He was starting,
Speaker 1: in one fact, searching for more tweets from somebody. But
Speaker 1: also MTV maybe spent two hours deleting twenty pages of
Speaker 1: tweets already, So if you wanted to get me, you
Speaker 1: should have gotten me before I had an MTV show,
Speaker 1: because boy, they scrubbed that shit and I was embarrassed.
Speaker 1: Mind you, while I was reading it, I was like,
Speaker 1: bitch y'all said that, like dead ass. I was like,
Speaker 1: I said that, But to me, tweets, Twitter anything a
Speaker 1: decade ago. Bro. Again, the way we're talking about the
Speaker 1: sensitivity of the society we live in and the way
Speaker 1: that we're all educating and learning and growing. Again, if
Speaker 1: you've been fans of horrible decisions, there's been knowledge that
Speaker 1: I've learned about different layers and levels of sexual assault.
Speaker 1: Like stealthing was something I learned in twenty seventeen. I
Speaker 1: didn't know back at twenty twelve when a nigga removed
Speaker 1: the condom on me that I had been sexually assaulted.
Speaker 1: That is a crime. That now you could go to
Speaker 1: jail for and so to me, if we're all learning
Speaker 1: as we're getting older, we shouldn't be holding people to
Speaker 1: the fire, allowing growth to happen, you know, allowed for
Speaker 1: us to evolve. Because that's also the the dope thing
Speaker 1: about humanity and choice right is the fact that we
Speaker 1: do get to change our minds, our thoughts, our views,
Speaker 1: our opinions. It gets to change. We get to evolve,
Speaker 1: and we get to go to therapy. We get to
Speaker 1: learn that the toxic relationships wasn't love, that was me
Speaker 1: being fucking insecure with myself or not having self worth.
Speaker 1: Like we get to do those things. So this idea
Speaker 1: that we're gonna hold people to the fire on tweets
Speaker 1: ten years plus ago, shut the fuck up. And Rory's
Speaker 1: one of the best potters out there, So.
Speaker 2: I don't give a fuck. I'm you know, enough of
Speaker 2: yourself accountability. Let's under the bush.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, no, We're not doing that.
Speaker 6: Also as a speak of humanity, Marjorie Taylor Green, she's
Speaker 6: kind of evolved, she's evolving as a politician.
Speaker 2: But I don't like this.
Speaker 6: I'm not gonna throw Rory under the bus, but I
Speaker 6: am going to bring up Marjorie Taylor Green in relation
Speaker 6: to this whole thing, right, And here's the problem. I
Speaker 6: personally think that the bringing up old tweet thing is
Speaker 6: whack a lot for a lot of reasons they don't
Speaker 6: necessarily have to do with, like why you're bringing up
Speaker 6: old ship like in these particular cases, like well maybe
Speaker 6: Joshua is a whole other thing for you, but like
Speaker 6: for the people that brought up killing the Cold Ship, right, yep,
Speaker 6: these are people who are bringing these things up in
Speaker 6: the self in defense.
Speaker 2: Of some rich white lady. Literally in Rory's case, this
Speaker 2: all came up over who's your rapper daddy?
Speaker 1: Literally, like this all came up.
Speaker 7: He brought it up in the spaces. Yeah, but it
Speaker 7: came up because they were accusing him of like riding for.
Speaker 1: Because he should get a Grammy.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and that's what I'm saying, Like to me, but
Speaker 6: it let's be clear, there's a lot of ship going
Speaker 6: on in hip hop though, okay, through the genuineness of
Speaker 6: and again to your point, I hate when they do
Speaker 6: that shit because yeah, I just think he should be
Speaker 6: able to defend that shit.
Speaker 2: But here's the problem.
Speaker 6: Here's to me, where he fucked up at and where
Speaker 6: Marjorie Taylor Green comes into it, right when you go
Speaker 6: into spaces, if you have that on your jacket, especially
Speaker 6: if you're a white person and you're in this culture,
Speaker 6: if you have that on your jacket, it is your
Speaker 6: responsibility as a human being, as a white person, to
Speaker 6: approach that situation seriously and hold that for real, for real,
Speaker 6: hold that and don't be defensive about it. Don't scoff
Speaker 6: at it. Don't you don't get to make jokes about it.
Speaker 6: You gotta hold that. You have to approach that situation.
Speaker 6: If you're going to offer an apology, you have to
Speaker 6: offer a real apology. And it's like, if Marjorie Taylor
Speaker 6: Green can offer a better fake apology than you.
Speaker 2: Can, you look crazy.
Speaker 1: Well his humor, I'll be honest, the way he responded
Speaker 1: initially is exactly how I would responded. I would have
Speaker 1: thought it was a joke, like y'all are really like,
Speaker 1: which I think.
Speaker 6: You don't get to be white and do that exactly.
Speaker 6: You don't get to be white and do that. You
Speaker 6: just don't like That's just how it goes.
Speaker 2: At least.
Speaker 6: But I'm like, for a white man, I think I
Speaker 6: think he could have handled it a lot, but I
Speaker 6: think there was a way because it because it could
Speaker 6: have I think maybe deprived.
Speaker 1: My thing is, here's the thing. You're damned if you do,
Speaker 1: damned if you don't. Had he gotten on his knees
Speaker 1: and begged for forgiveness for an apology. There's a lot
Speaker 1: of people because it was a lot of niggas at
Speaker 1: home in their mama basement yelling into the phone, like
Speaker 1: to me, even how do you apologize out the gate?
Speaker 1: There's still so many people that wouldn't have accepted the apology.
Speaker 1: But he's still got to do it better.
Speaker 7: Like, and I'll say this, I've had nothing but like
Speaker 7: positive interactions with like I don't know, I'm super well,
Speaker 7: but I've obviously had But but still it's like, but
Speaker 7: as a white dude in it regardless, like you have
Speaker 7: to do a good apology because there's people to fuck
Speaker 7: with you and people that like with you.
Speaker 1: They like you, and you have to apologize to them.
Speaker 1: For all the people who are gonna make noise about it,
Speaker 1: they were gonna do it anyway. Yeah, And so like
Speaker 1: it has to be legit and like super one.
Speaker 6: When you when a white personihilates a black person's trust.
Speaker 6: There's only one way you can play that out, and
Speaker 6: if you're gonna be cute about it, like because then
Speaker 6: he came back on his pot and like gave a
Speaker 6: real apology.
Speaker 2: Right, so it's like that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Then apologies can be too late, so you're damned.
Speaker 6: Like yeah, but but again, if you're a white person,
Speaker 6: that's your If that's all the burden you gotta bears
Speaker 6: that niggas don't fuck with you no more than whooped
Speaker 6: the dude. Like, I think his mistake, his misstep rather,
Speaker 6: is that he went on twitter space so quick.
Speaker 2: I think he should have.
Speaker 1: Gave some time to.
Speaker 2: His friend said don't get on that ship. And I
Speaker 2: know Twitter spaces shout out to twitters people who do.
Speaker 2: I like the idea, but.
Speaker 6: It just became a fine what they could get from
Speaker 6: you to clip that ship up and go put it
Speaker 6: on YouTube, put it on a page and say, ah, I.
Speaker 1: Hate it, I hate it. Anyway, let's get into before
Speaker 1: we wrap up our am I ignorant segment?
Speaker 2: We got a question, let's do.
Speaker 7: It, and I swear I didn't write this one, so
Speaker 7: to get it here, it says uh oh so let's
Speaker 7: go down.
Speaker 1: Was it was to tell my aunt her political posts
Speaker 1: make her look uneducated? Was it ignorant?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Was it to tell my aunt her political post make
Speaker 1: her look educated? So here goes.
Speaker 7: My aunt posts a lot of political memes on Facebook,
Speaker 7: stuff that's clearly not accurate, but she shares them with
Speaker 7: the captions like wake up sheep. Last week, one of
Speaker 7: our posts want viral in the family group chat because
Speaker 7: it claimed the politician had died and they hadn't. I
Speaker 7: commented publicly, not privately, under her post and said, Auntie,
Speaker 7: please fact check before spread stuff like this. It makes
Speaker 7: you look uneducated. She deleted the post, then called me hollering,
Speaker 7: saying I embarrassed her in front of her church and
Speaker 7: coworkers who follow her. My cousins say that I'm a
Speaker 7: laitist because my aunt didn't finish high school and quote
Speaker 7: doesn't know better. Now the family says I'm the one
Speaker 7: dividing people. So here's the question. Was I ignorant for
Speaker 7: calling it out publicly or is everyone else ignorant for
Speaker 7: ignoring the real issue.
Speaker 1: Here's the thing, not sure how old John's is. Bitch.
Speaker 1: Let them be great over there on the Facebook.
Speaker 3: Let them.
Speaker 1: They believe everything that everything you gotta, you gonna let
Speaker 1: these old people enjoy believing like this ship it is
Speaker 1: agous but cool.
Speaker 2: I go, hold you.
Speaker 1: I saw this one sore video like, and I didn't
Speaker 1: realize it was AI till I went into the comments,
Speaker 1: and mind you, I'm heavily on the internet. I'm getting
Speaker 1: got by AI. Okay, so to me, mind you, we
Speaker 1: kill all people on the internet and all the time,
Speaker 1: and so for me, I don't I think that actually
Speaker 1: you weren't ignorant for calling it out publicly, but you're
Speaker 1: just not fun. Like, let the old people enjoy their memes,
Speaker 1: their AI, their fake like people right now are having
Speaker 1: a blast with seeing these things that they think are real.
Speaker 1: They can't believe it. Wake up people. But also it's
Speaker 1: happening to us, like, boy, does NBA Sententel get me
Speaker 1: a lot?
Speaker 7: You know?
Speaker 1: But now they acting like the Simpsons almost Maybe they're
Speaker 1: like predicting what's happening with the ship happening to me
Speaker 1: if it's memes and specifically this one was a politician
Speaker 1: who died and they hadn't We are in a space
Speaker 1: where a lot of us are uninformed online and we
Speaker 1: hit that retweet button real quick. If we all had
Speaker 1: to research everything before we liked or commented or retweeted,
Speaker 1: it would take an element job, it would. And so
Speaker 1: I don't think it's ignorant for your aunt to just
Speaker 1: share it. And I do think that you're ignorant and too.
Speaker 1: Where we're at on the internet right now with Soura,
Speaker 1: with chat chept, with AI think Groc. I don't think
Speaker 1: Grock is over there on on us on Facebook, we
Speaker 1: know that Groc.
Speaker 2: I'm surprised, you know.
Speaker 1: So y'all don't know Grock. Grek is my side, niked
Speaker 1: so chat, GPT is my husband, Grok is my side, niggad.
Speaker 1: Groc is the AI feature that automatically will let you
Speaker 1: know if something is uninformed, not right, will give you
Speaker 1: a real link. And then if you were unaware of
Speaker 1: what is happening from a tweet, you can literally at Grock, Hey, Groc,
Speaker 1: explain to me what's going on, and Groc will give
Speaker 1: you a breakdown of what's happening in the I don't
Speaker 1: know if most of the time, and he'd be wrong sometimes,
Speaker 1: but I just don't know if Facebook has that feature.
Speaker 1: I don't know if people of a certain age know
Speaker 1: that that feature exists. And so to me where we're at,
Speaker 1: let the old folks have that they with with with
Speaker 1: the auff you you.
Speaker 2: Look like you better than me.
Speaker 6: Listen, Auntie, I hate to break it to you. You
Speaker 6: were You were embarrassed before the person said that before.
Speaker 1: You're No, this isn't the aunt ring.
Speaker 2: No, I'm talking about aunts high school.
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying is I'm saying that to
Speaker 6: say is that you said this in a public form
Speaker 6: amongst other people. Trust to believe you ain't the only
Speaker 6: your your niece, ain't the only person that thought you
Speaker 6: was ignorant and uninformed when you posted that. In that group,
Speaker 6: somebody else that saw the dumb ship looked at it
Speaker 6: and said, this is some dumb ship. Why she always
Speaker 6: posting this dumb shit? You we all have a group
Speaker 6: chat that we know somebody is posting something. It's like,
Speaker 6: you know you're gonna post the dumb shit. So somebody
Speaker 6: in that group was already looking at you crazy.
Speaker 1: But we got to look at we as human beings,
Speaker 1: how we project. So the the comment that went on
Speaker 1: there was Auntie, please fact check before spreading stuff like this.
Speaker 1: It makes you look uneducated. The fact that the other
Speaker 1: cousin was like, you, you know, she didn't finish high school,
Speaker 1: you must think you're better than her. The aunt responding
Speaker 1: the way she did probably is because she feels a
Speaker 1: bit uneducated as someone who didn't complete high school. Therefore,
Speaker 1: that word uneducated is what pissed her off. It was
Speaker 1: a trigger to her because she possibly actually feels like
Speaker 1: she's uneducated as.
Speaker 6: Someone who didn't mean about sheep or about ghats or
Speaker 6: about some ship that don't have If you're dumb a
Speaker 6: man of steels just got finished telling us last episode,
Speaker 6: have somebody around you who knows something, who can put
Speaker 6: you in the right direction.
Speaker 2: If you want to talk about frivol.
Speaker 1: Needs somebody around her to grandma. Granted, Auntie needs to
Speaker 1: anti rize.
Speaker 6: If you want to talk about some frivolous ship that
Speaker 6: don't matter, You want to argue about basketball or.
Speaker 2: Sneakers or kids were trying to get it matters all
Speaker 2: the matter.
Speaker 6: But I'm saying like, if you want to argue on
Speaker 6: the internet about some old like whatever ship that doesn't
Speaker 6: mean nothing about nothing, go ahead and you can be
Speaker 6: quote unquote uneducated or ignorant, and that shit really don't matter.
Speaker 1: To be fair, it is it was allegedly a politician
Speaker 1: that had died. I will say nothing is stupid about
Speaker 1: questioning anything regarding politics, no question, because.
Speaker 2: Question every question, all of it.
Speaker 6: But I think there's a difference between a question and
Speaker 6: just spreading something that you think something something false just
Speaker 6: because you saw it and you jumped on it and
Speaker 6: you thought that this was the thing, like we all
Speaker 6: gotten got by or various things. So I don't think
Speaker 6: it's a matter of like, don't get God, We're all
Speaker 6: going to get got at some point, and.
Speaker 1: Y'all be quick to let me know when I got got,
Speaker 1: like tweet me, like, girl, don't even real?
Speaker 2: Girl?
Speaker 1: Do you know?
Speaker 6: I saw a video yesterday of what was supposed to
Speaker 6: be behind the scenes means of a of a national
Speaker 6: geographic animal documentary, and it was literally, uh, a tiger
Speaker 6: and a deer standing there in front of the camera
Speaker 6: while director and production people behind it, and the director
Speaker 6: says action, and the tiger runs and grabs the deer
Speaker 6: and they run off screen and shot again this time
Speaker 6: do this and he's given the tiger direction And you
Speaker 6: thought it was real? No, hell no, but it looks
Speaker 6: real as fu Yeah, the tiger's just sitting there waiting
Speaker 6: for the deer and he picks the deer up in
Speaker 6: his mouth and runs off screen. And it looks real
Speaker 6: as hell, but I'm sure somebody got got.
Speaker 1: Fake.
Speaker 2: He's a real aut.
Speaker 1: This in terms of Hurricane Melissa, when it went through Jamaica, Bro,
Speaker 1: I saw more AI videos of sharks in the pool.
Speaker 1: I was, I was like, damn, nigga, where the real
Speaker 1: videos that.
Speaker 2: It was a lot of AI.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think. I think. I think your ignorance
Speaker 1: wasn't about calling her out publicly, but it was you ignorant.
Speaker 1: Let let all people be old, let them have their fun,
Speaker 1: Let them have their fun. Anyways, guys, uh, next week
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