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Speaker 1: Don't listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

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Speaker 2: Oh you know what, it's a ticking time bomb. It's

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Speaker 2: a time bomb.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I will explain all about it in just about a minute.

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Speaker 2: Good morning, Happy July sixth, Yes, July sixth, that's today.

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Speaker 2: I hope you're still recovering. This is Andy Firmer, my

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Speaker 2: partner Bucky Brooks, and we are Fox Sports Sunday and

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio broadcasting life from the Fox Sports Radio studios.

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Speaker 3: And away we go.

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Speaker 2: Here he is, as the aforementioned partner was mentioned, my friend,

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Speaker 2: my buddy, the one and only, Bucky Brooks. Bucky, how you.

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Speaker 4: Doing, I'm Grinham. Great. What's going on? Andy?

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Speaker 2: You know they're still shooting fireworks in my neighborhood. I

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Speaker 2: don't get it.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 2: To me, you might as well take a couple of

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Speaker 2: dollar bills, roll them up and burn them. I don't

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Speaker 2: understand it. What is the purpose? I love a fireworks show,

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Speaker 2: I honestly do. I'll go to these big shows in

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Speaker 2: the parks at baseball games they have the touchdowns and

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Speaker 2: football games. I got fireworks. I love it. But they

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Speaker 2: shoot them off in your backyard and spend hundreds two

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Speaker 2: hundred five hundred dollars and just burn it up. Take

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Speaker 2: a roll of quarters, take a roll of dimes, put

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Speaker 2: them all together, put a match to it and burn them.

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Speaker 2: Really think about it. What do you do that? Do

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Speaker 2: you set up fireworks too?

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Speaker 5: I am not a fireworks fan. I've never been either thing.

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Speaker 2: And I see the news on TV yesterday how many

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Speaker 2: people lost their fingers? Do the fireworks, you know, injured burns,

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Speaker 2: things like that. Let the professionals do it, do the

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Speaker 2: professional shows. They're still doing it. It's July the sixth,

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Speaker 2: shooting fireworks off. I don't get it, but I will

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Speaker 2: say this, the fourth of July. I hope you had

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Speaker 2: a great one with your family. Did you Did you.

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Speaker 3: Do a little bit?

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: It was great, great, no good clients.

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Speaker 2: Fourth of July known for one thing and one thing only.

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Speaker 2: And it's not fireworks. And it's not fireworks. You know

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Speaker 2: what it is. You know what it is, Bucket Brooks.

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Speaker 2: You know it's the Nathan's famous fourth Fourth of July

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Speaker 2: hot dog getting contest and Nathan's famous near my old

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Speaker 2: neighborhood in Coney Island in Brooklyn, right and defending champion

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Speaker 2: Joey Jaws Chestnut. Now I watched this on TV, and

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Speaker 2: to me, it's nauseating. He's shoving down seventy and a

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Speaker 2: half hot dogs in ten minutes. I had two hot

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Speaker 2: dogs the other day in the fourth of July. I

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Speaker 2: was full. I don't get it. Okay, seventy hot dogs.

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Speaker 2: His record was seventy six back in nineteen well in

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty one. The question I have for you, Bucky Brooks,

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Speaker 2: because you're a true sportsman, you're a renaissance man, you're

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Speaker 2: a coach, you're an athlete, you know it all. You

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Speaker 2: have all the answers. That's all we have ask Bucky

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Speaker 2: on this show. I want to know, is hot dog

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Speaker 2: eating a sport? Is that a sport? Because I know

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Speaker 2: that they treated as a sport. I guess it's on

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Speaker 2: the four lettered Network. Perhaps it's a sport. I don't

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Speaker 2: know that pillow fighting on the sport. They have all

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Speaker 2: these things on there is hot dog eating a sport?

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Speaker 4: Gosh?

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Speaker 5: I say no because I'm not into competitive eating.

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Speaker 4: I know they showed on the Worldwide Leader.

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Speaker 5: I just don't consider it a sport, and I don't

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Speaker 5: really have a reason as to why. It just seems

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Speaker 5: odd to me that consuming food would be considered a sport,

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Speaker 5: and no matter how you do it, it just didn't

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Speaker 2: Well, I'll say this, it has all the elements of

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Speaker 2: and you require I guess it requires training. I mean

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Speaker 2: all sports required requires training. I guess eating competitive eating

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Speaker 2: requires some sort of training. Because they watered down the

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Speaker 2: I don't think so. I guess it could be on

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: The next question I have for you, would you consider

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Speaker 2: I mean, he looks like he's in pretty good shape,

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Speaker 3: Really, M.

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Speaker 4: I mean I can't. I can't take him as an athlete.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you're an athlete.

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Speaker 2: You stand side by side the Joey Chestnut, It will

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Speaker 2: they call him an athlete and you're an athlete.

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Speaker 3: To me, that that would be embarrassing, wouldn't it to me?

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Speaker 2: However, I did look up the definition of an athlete

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Speaker 3: So that's the question idea.

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Speaker 2: If eating is a sport and other forms of physical exercise,

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Speaker 2: being an athlete, okay, And they typically possess physical strength.

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: If he does speed you don't need speed needing, maybe

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Speaker 3: I don't know. Agility and stamina. I guess he has that.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, but I would say this, He's won

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Speaker 2: seventeen times in twenty appearances at Nathan's with the hot

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Speaker 2: Dog deal. Okay, so he's dominated this activity or sport.

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Speaker 2: Does he does? Here's the question of today. Does he

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Speaker 2: deserve a statue at Nathan's? Why do I say that?

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Speaker 2: Because his statue is all over the place. Everybody's good statues,

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Speaker 2: you know, Lebron James's got to get one. Everybody who's

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Speaker 2: Does Joey Chester deserves a statue in front of Nathan's

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Speaker 5: That we can give him a statue in front of

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Speaker 5: like you talk about seventeen out of twenty or eighteen

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Speaker 5: we're dubbing as a sport, Yeah, give him credit for

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Speaker 4: The best when it comes to mowing down hot dogs.

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Speaker 2: Well, he plays the best of the best. I mean,

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Speaker 2: I watch it and I just you don't even feel

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Speaker 2: right now, Let's talk about this ticking time bomb. I

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Speaker 2: your mind. And I'm not saying I have firsthand knowledge,

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Speaker 2: but for many years of my life I worked at racetracks.

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Speaker 3: I was a pr guy trying to publicize.

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Speaker 2: Racetracks, greyhound greyhound racing, harness racing, thoroughbred racing. I even

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Speaker 2: worked at a highlight fronton for a little bit in Florida, all.

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Speaker 3: Right, and I've seen it, you know.

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Speaker 2: I worked at a dog track, a greyhound track in

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Speaker 2: how really gambling has hit. I mean, if you've seen it,

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Speaker 4: Way it is.

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Speaker 2: And now it's come to the games. Its come to

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Speaker 2: And the sports commissioners, obviously they couldn't resist the green cabbage,

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Speaker 2: the money. Now they have the problems. Okay, let's talk

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Speaker 2: about the Toronto Raptors. Is for John Tay Porter. He's

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Speaker 2: got the lifetime ban. Now. Malik Beasley, they claimed now,

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Speaker 2: as Gamble is concerned, I think it's out of control.

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Speaker 2: But I don't know what they could do. I don't

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Speaker 2: it really is, and I don't think anybody should be

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Speaker 3: I don't know how you stop it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know how you stop it.

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Speaker 5: And you know, today I would say like the lines

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Speaker 5: would say the closeness or the proximity of fantasy football

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Speaker 5: or the daily Best that you can get on your phone.

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Speaker 5: You can touch an app, you can click on it.

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Speaker 5: The access is there is so easy that I think

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Speaker 5: it's hard sometimes for young people, younger adults, to distinguish

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Speaker 4: Why one is good and the other is bad when they've.

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Speaker 5: Grown up participating in both, whether it's monetarily for monetary

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Speaker 5: gain or not, and when the leagues open up their

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Speaker 5: daily gambling adventures. They open themselves up to that because

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Speaker 5: you know ultimately it was going to get to the players.

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Speaker 4: And now we have these.

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Speaker 5: Situations where you worry about the integrity of the game

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Speaker 5: being impacted because you have players who are gambling on themselves,

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Speaker 4: Look, man, it's just a bad look. It's a bad

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Speaker 5: But this is what we knew was coming when you

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Speaker 5: allowed major sports leagues to partner up with these gambling entities.

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Speaker 2: There's no doubt about that. And look, now I got

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Speaker 2: to Miami Terry Rosier. He has mediumulated his performance as

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Speaker 2: part of an illegal betting scheme, although Rosier and Beasley

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Speaker 2: have not been charged with the crime yet, but the

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Speaker 2: question is there and what it has done. Now as

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Speaker 2: far as people who may be casually wager, and there

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Speaker 2: are people that do that on their phone. Maybe perhaps

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Speaker 2: you go to a game, guy goes in there, missus

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Speaker 2: a layup. You start scratching your head, say was it intentional?

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Speaker 2: You know it, did he actually miss it or did

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Speaker 2: he miss it because you know he wants to maybe

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Speaker 2: get the point level down or he's told to miss it.

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I'm not a gamble I've all these racing facilities that

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Speaker 2: I worked at. I really if I put maybe ten

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Speaker 2: dollars total in my life on wagers, that's what I did.

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Speaker 2: It doesn't excite me, but I understand for some people

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Speaker 2: that makes out adrenaline.

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Speaker 4: Go.

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Speaker 3: Now, you played the game, and you've been around guys, and.

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Speaker 2: You were there probably before it really got big time gambling,

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Speaker 2: but there was obviously ways that one could gamble. Did

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Speaker 2: you see or hear anybody in the locker room talking

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Speaker 2: about gambles or did gambles even approach you guys as

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Speaker 2: players when you played.

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Speaker 5: No, that was a long time ago, and it's such

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Speaker 5: a different life, Like it was so taboo to discuss

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Speaker 5: gambling or so taboo to be around gambling. And at

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Speaker 5: that time, I mean you're talking about like a nineties,

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Speaker 5: Areas that you can't have your players participating in because

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Speaker 4: And the way to the product on the floor is viewed.

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Speaker 2: And what's the difference if I lose even a little more.

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Speaker 2: But you know, when it touches athletes that are making millions,

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Speaker 4: Unfortunate for everyone involved.

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Speaker 5: But like it's one of those things that's kind of

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Speaker 3: There's no doubt about that.

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Speaker 2: We talked about the NBA that's move over to Major

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Speaker 3: I guess at the.

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Speaker 3: Know, I don't. I can't.

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Speaker 2: I'm not gonna say. I don't blame them. I think

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Speaker 2: You know, you watch TV. Almost every other commercial on

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Speaker 2: crazy as well. But the point is that I don't

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Speaker 2: I listened to sports talk radio and like they're giving way,

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Speaker 3: Is that important? Should they? I don't know. I mean

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Speaker 2: I don't wage just so it doesn't do any good

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Speaker 2: I don't think you're into that either, but I hear

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Speaker 4: Doesn't help, No, I mean, you can't get away from it.

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Speaker 5: I told you, like part of it is the environment,

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Speaker 2: I guess I don't know, but you're right. I see

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Speaker 3: It doesn't bother me.

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Speaker 2: But I'm sure there are people they're waiting anxiously to

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Speaker 2: You're hurting the game itself, not yourself, but you're hurting

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Speaker 4: It's just.

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Speaker 5: Look, man, it's just one of those things that you're

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Speaker 2: Well, you talk about the NFL network and the sponsorship

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Speaker 2: Just go to an arena or go to a baseball

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Speaker 2: stadium and they got the machines right there.

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Speaker 3: You can make the wager right there. That's basically what

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Speaker 3: it's all about.

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Speaker 2: And I think that's why, to some extent, some of

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Speaker 2: these fans go ballistic, you know, when a player drops

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Speaker 2: the ball or a team loses or something, laughing whatever,

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Speaker 2: because they got.

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Speaker 3: Money on that.

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Speaker 2: And there's more of an I guess of a rooting

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Speaker 2: interest in that game because you got money on it.

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Speaker 2: That's basically what it's all about. Guy drops the fly

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Speaker 2: ball in a baseball game. You got the guy, you

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Speaker 2: do guy's pitching and no hit, whatever it may be,

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Speaker 2: and you lose the money, You're going to attack the guy.

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Speaker 2: And that's basically what they do. It's it's crazy. I

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Speaker 2: don't know how it's gonna be fixed. I don't know

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Speaker 2: if it can be fixed. But I tell you what,

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Speaker 2: it's out there, and if you don't think it's out there,

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Speaker 2: there's something wrong with you. He's Bucky Brooks. I'm Indy

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Speaker 2: playing Game of an hour number three? But will we

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Speaker 2: moving along, you gotta ask Bucky say it about ten

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Speaker 2: twelve minutes from now.

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Speaker 3: But let's move the clock backward.

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Speaker 2: This happened Wednesday night and from a fifty five thousand,

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Speaker 2: five hundred and thirty six people at Dodger Stadium.

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Speaker 3: Let's take a listen.

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Speaker 4: I thought we would.

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Speaker 8: That's a one two pitch strike records be out a

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Speaker 8: little slider strike out number three thousand for Playton Crusha

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Speaker 8: history at Dodger Stadium.

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Speaker 3: All right, there we go.

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Speaker 2: That was dargest stadium on Wednesday Night, two outs in

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Speaker 2: the sixth inning. On this one hundredth pitch, Clayton Kershoer

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Speaker 2: struck out White Sox basement of Vinnie Kpra and he

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Speaker 2: became the twentieth player to reach three thousand strikeouts. And

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Speaker 2: he's just the fourth lefty to do it. However, I

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Speaker 2: gotta believe looking at statistics and how pitches pitch and

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Speaker 2: how little they pitch, and their careers are not as

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Speaker 2: long as they once wore, he'll probably be the last one.

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Speaker 2: Bucky Brooks, I think he'll be the last one to

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Speaker 2: get three thousand strikeouts.

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Speaker 3: What do you think?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm with you on that.

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Speaker 5: I don't think we're going to see mini pitchers get

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Speaker 5: anywhere close to those numbers where they be complete games,

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Speaker 5: total wins, strikeouts, because the game isn't set up like

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Speaker 5: that anymore. It's set up where everyone's a specialist. You

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Speaker 5: pitch two or three innings and you get out, and

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Speaker 5: there's more of a collective effort to win games as

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Speaker 5: a pitcher as opposed to collective effort to win games

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Speaker 5: as a team, as opposed to a giving the ball

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Speaker 5: to your ace and letting your age give you eight

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Speaker 5: to nine innx.

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Speaker 4: That's just not the case anymore.

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Speaker 2: And I think it stinks because baseball is a sacred

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Speaker 2: game made on record. I'm really arguments for eons when

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Speaker 2: who was better? Was it Mickey mantlea Willie Mays or

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Speaker 2: Duke Snyder or Ted Williams? Will he the greatest hitter

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Speaker 2: was a Pete Rose. That's what baseball was made on.

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Speaker 2: Was Kershaw better than Colfax? Things like that. That's not

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Speaker 2: happening right now, Baseball. Stop with the time clock. The

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Speaker 2: beauty of baseball was the fact that it was the

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Speaker 2: only game out there that was timeless. That's what made

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Speaker 2: baseball beautiful. And everybody would say, oh, we need a

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Speaker 2: time cl You're in a rush, You're in a hurry.

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Speaker 2: Don't go to a baseball game. I missed the double

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Speaker 2: headers on Sunday. All right, Maybe I'm an old fogie.

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Speaker 2: I don't care. But the point is this. Stop with that.

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Speaker 2: Stop with the rushing. Everybody in this day and age

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Speaker 2: wants their glasses in an hour.

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Speaker 3: They want fast food. Calm down.

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Speaker 2: Baseball is a beautiful game to be played under the sun.

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Speaker 3: Timeless, all right.

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Speaker 2: Stop with the man on second base starting the tenth

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Speaker 2: inning and extra innings. These are sacred records never to

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Speaker 2: be seen again. Managers, let the pitchers pitch past the

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Speaker 2: fifth inning, Bucket Brooks, that's what I want to see.

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Speaker 2: These records will never ever be challenged the game, and

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Speaker 2: that's a shame.

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Speaker 4: That is a change.

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Speaker 5: But I think you're directing your anger at the wrong

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Speaker 5: person because you mentioned the manager. The managers are no

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Speaker 5: longer running game day operations.

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Speaker 4: It's the general manager and the analytics team.

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Speaker 5: So before you point to Dave Roberts and company, you

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Speaker 5: got to go hire you. You got to go to

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Speaker 5: the people that we never talk about, the guys that

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Speaker 5: are sitting in the offices that are making these decisions

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Speaker 5: hours ahead of time. Because the manager no longer has

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Speaker 5: the power like he used to when Timy Lasorter, Billy Martin,

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Speaker 5: Earl Weaver, when those guys were managing, they were everything

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Speaker 5: when it came to the strategists, substitutions, all of those things. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: it's not the case anymore. And so this is an

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Speaker 5: analytics driven deal where we have more people coming in

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Speaker 5: and out of lineups, more pitchers swapping in and out.

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Speaker 4: That's not what managers were like.

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Speaker 5: Managers like consistency, they're like connectivity, and if they could

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Speaker 5: have a workhorse, they would ride the workhorse because you

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Speaker 5: know what you're getting. I would say the analytics community

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Speaker 5: and general managers have messed a game up where you

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Speaker 5: don't have pitches that can go to distance.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 2: I never thought of it that way, that the managers

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Speaker 2: don't have much power as they used to. I used

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Speaker 2: to think maybe the fact of the matter is that

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Speaker 2: these records will not be broken is because these pitchers

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Speaker 2: make so much money. They treat them with kid gloves

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Speaker 2: and they don't want to burn them out. Maybe that

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Speaker 2: was one of the reasons. But I think back in

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Speaker 2: the day, and I'm not going back too far now,

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Speaker 2: but back in the day, these pitchers were throwing two

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Speaker 2: hundred and fifty three hundred innings. Why because today they

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Speaker 2: pitch less and they get hurt more. Think about that,

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Speaker 2: and people are saying, why is that? This might be

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Speaker 2: the answer. Tell me if I'm okay on this. Today

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Speaker 2: they throw they want to be FM pitches FM radio.

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Speaker 2: What I mean by that, they want to throw one

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Speaker 2: on one three to one on one on one point three,

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Speaker 2: that's what they want to do. They want to throw

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Speaker 2: one hundred miles an hour. They want to throw hard

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Speaker 2: and fast. They don't pitch, they throw hard. You know,

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Speaker 2: there's the difference between pitching and throwing, I think, and

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Speaker 2: today that don't pitch, they throw.

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Speaker 5: I mean, look, that's a big part of it. They

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Speaker 5: don't pitch. It's a lost art. But I will also

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Speaker 5: say this, there's something to be said for and I

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Speaker 5: know you kind of sound like the old man on

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Speaker 5: the porch where we talked about old school and yesteryear

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Speaker 5: and those things, but you certainly didn't see as many

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Speaker 5: Tommy John injuries as you've seen now. You didn't see

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Speaker 5: all of the wear and tear issues that you're see

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Speaker 5: in and play pitchers and players now than before. And

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Speaker 5: one of the reasons is what you talk about the

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Speaker 5: radio that owl people are aiming to bust up the clock, right,

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Speaker 5: they're aiming to bust up the radis everyone wants to

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Speaker 5: throw well over one hundred and Some of what has

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Speaker 5: been lost is the artistry that came with pitching where

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Speaker 5: there's changing speeds, changing locations, not always bringing the heater,

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Speaker 5: but also having the cutter and the compliments that go

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Speaker 5: along with your number one pitch.

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Speaker 4: That has been a problem. Some of the problem has been.

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Speaker 5: Overused prior to getting to the majors because in little

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Speaker 5: league and travel ball and like everyone, they're wearing out

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Speaker 5: the little arms. And so now you have a player

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Speaker 5: who you get at the major league level who already

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Speaker 5: has a fatigued DAR which makes them susceptible to the

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Speaker 5: injuries that we see are occurring. But it's weird because

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Speaker 5: you talked about making more playing less but having more injuries.

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Speaker 4: It doesn't make sense.

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Speaker 5: But it's the cumulative effect of everything that is transpiring

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Speaker 5: from youth leagues all the way up, and then it's

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Speaker 5: the dramatic change at the higher level to not fully

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Speaker 5: prepare the players for the grind that is the regular season.

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Speaker 2: You always have the answers, you really do, and I

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Speaker 2: commend you for that because I just thought of something

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Speaker 2: and it's amazing, really and I don't think people even

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Speaker 2: know what I'm talking about. But back in the day,

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Speaker 2: and I think you might remember this, they had like

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Speaker 2: artists who were pitchers, and one of them, many of them, really.

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Speaker 3: Through a pitch that was called a knuckleball.

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Speaker 2: I don't know anyuket ball is right now major League Baseball,

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Speaker 2: and as a matter of fact, when the knuckleball pitcher

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Speaker 2: would come in, the catcher would get an enlarge glove.

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Speaker 2: Do you remember that they would change gloves. They're gonna

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Speaker 2: beig new glove to catch the knuckleball.

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Speaker 3: I don't.

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Speaker 2: I don't even think they have knuckleball pitchers anymore. It's

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Speaker 2: fastball and curve. That's basically what it is. But basically

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Speaker 2: fastball as hard as you can throw, and the matters,

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Speaker 2: well what they do they swiming as hard as they can.

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Speaker 2: So basically it's a walker strikeout of our home run.

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Speaker 2: That's the game of baseball today.

654
00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:29,640
Speaker 5: That is the game, and it's it's unfortunate, like we've

655
00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:33,800
Speaker 5: lost some of the creativity that we that we used

656
00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:35,400
Speaker 5: to have when it when it comes to it.

657
00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:37,280
Speaker 4: But yeah, like that's that's some of it.

658
00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:39,440
Speaker 5: Like think about how good Greg Maddox was, and Greg

659
00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:43,080
Speaker 5: Maddox couldn't really push it anywhere close to one hundred. Well,

660
00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:46,000
Speaker 5: it was all about location, changing speeds, it was about

661
00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:49,440
Speaker 5: working the corners, uh quickly, getting your head of the

662
00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:53,080
Speaker 5: hitter on the pitch count. So now you dictate the

663
00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:56,840
Speaker 5: terms that of the batter being in favorable, favorable positions,

664
00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:59,680
Speaker 5: all of those things matter, and all of those things

665
00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:02,000
Speaker 5: impacted the way the game is being played.

666
00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:05,320
Speaker 2: It's unbelieving that I do Clayton Kersher right now the

667
00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:07,800
Speaker 2: fourth left handed to reach three thousand strikeouts?

668
00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:08,120
Speaker 3: Who does?

669
00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:12,560
Speaker 2: He joined Randy Johnson, Steve Carlton, and CC Sabathia, and

670
00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:16,400
Speaker 2: one of just three active pitchers along with Justin Verlander, who,

671
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:18,400
Speaker 2: by the way, is oh and six right now this year.

672
00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:21,640
Speaker 2: Along with Justin Verlander, Max sure two of the off

673
00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:24,160
Speaker 2: of them, and they lump them all together were the

674
00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:27,719
Speaker 2: greatest of this generation. Sure's of Verlander. I guess Kersher

675
00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:32,120
Speaker 2: the greatest pitches of this generation. Okay, it's amazing, and

676
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:35,480
Speaker 2: one of just five to get three thousand with one team,

677
00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:40,480
Speaker 2: along with the great Walter Johnson, Bob Gibson, Carlton, and

678
00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:46,600
Speaker 2: John Smoltz. Really, again, I don't see anyone really approaching

679
00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:50,880
Speaker 2: that number. Who's pitching today? A for injury factor, B.

680
00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:54,000
Speaker 2: They're not going to pitch that long, No.

681
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:54,200
Speaker 4: They're not.

682
00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:58,360
Speaker 5: But I'm be honest with you, I'm still pondering the

683
00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:02,280
Speaker 5: name that I did not hear you say, CC Sabbathia.

684
00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:06,080
Speaker 5: I did not know Sabbathia was that prolific when it

685
00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:10,000
Speaker 5: came to strikeouse and the other name is John Smolts.

686
00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:12,240
Speaker 5: I knew John Smolts was part of those great Braves

687
00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:15,000
Speaker 5: teams for whatever, but when you talk about the most

688
00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:18,160
Speaker 5: with one team, Smolsey doesn't get enough credit for how

689
00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:20,960
Speaker 5: good he was. Like, it's amazing how guys can have

690
00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:24,080
Speaker 5: those distinguished careers and still flying to the radar.

691
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:25,239
Speaker 4: You know.

692
00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:29,080
Speaker 2: The greatest thing of baseball to me is the fact

693
00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:31,200
Speaker 2: that you could sit at the edge of your seat

694
00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:33,400
Speaker 2: in the last inning when a guy maybe is.

695
00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:34,400
Speaker 3: Approaching a no hitter.

696
00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:36,800
Speaker 2: And the Cincinnati Reds had a guy about a week

697
00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:39,160
Speaker 2: ago against I think it was the Red Sox, and

698
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:40,719
Speaker 2: he was into the ninth inning and he finally gave

699
00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:42,520
Speaker 2: up a hit. The fact that he made it to

700
00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:44,720
Speaker 2: the ninth inning to me was amazing, But he was

701
00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:46,880
Speaker 2: going for the no hitter. I mean, there was a

702
00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:49,200
Speaker 2: guy this year and I don't recall the name. I

703
00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:50,760
Speaker 2: forgot who it was, but he was in the seventh

704
00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:52,560
Speaker 2: inning pitching a no hitter. I think he was on

705
00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:55,320
Speaker 2: the Yankees, and Aaron Boone took him out. To me,

706
00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:58,600
Speaker 2: if I'm a fan, I pack up and go home. Really,

707
00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:00,960
Speaker 2: I mean, that's part of the game baseball. I want

708
00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:03,479
Speaker 2: to be there when someone pitches a no hitter. I

709
00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:05,880
Speaker 2: want to see that, you know, you know the greatest

710
00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:08,080
Speaker 2: thing about baseball is that anything can happen at.

711
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:10,360
Speaker 3: Any time, and there are so many variables in the game.

712
00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:12,680
Speaker 2: And basketball, what do you have you got a guy's

713
00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:15,200
Speaker 2: gonna dunk, You're gotta shoot a three point there, or

714
00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:17,560
Speaker 2: you know, maybe he'll score forty to fifty a game.

715
00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:18,560
Speaker 3: That's basically it.

716
00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:20,560
Speaker 2: But in baseball, if a guy hits an inside the

717
00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:22,960
Speaker 2: park home run, that's an amazing feat, all right. If

718
00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:24,840
Speaker 2: a guy hits a triple, it's probably the hardest thing

719
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:26,600
Speaker 2: to hit in baseball, is a triple all right. I

720
00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:28,120
Speaker 2: want to see that. I want to see a no hitter.

721
00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:30,160
Speaker 2: I want to see a double play, maybe a triple play.

722
00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:32,680
Speaker 2: There are so many variables going through a game of baseball,

723
00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:35,480
Speaker 2: you see, and they've been taken away from us. Right now,

724
00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:38,440
Speaker 2: guy stealing home I want to see that. I've never

725
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:40,200
Speaker 2: seen that live. That would be unbelievable.

726
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:44,560
Speaker 5: I mean, I mean, those are some things that we

727
00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:45,960
Speaker 5: definitely haven't seen in a while.

728
00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:48,120
Speaker 4: It would be great to see some of those things

729
00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:48,520
Speaker 4: come back.

730
00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:50,720
Speaker 5: But we have seen the game kind of morephack in

731
00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:52,960
Speaker 5: the small ball, we've seen more stolen bases, whatever, so

732
00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:55,400
Speaker 5: I'm sure a steal of home is on the horizon.

733
00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:59,600
Speaker 2: Well, and they did that because they made the bases bigger, right,

734
00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:02,320
Speaker 2: I mean, come on, And now I'm seeing these guys

735
00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:05,680
Speaker 2: with these gloves, you know, when they're running gloves Now,

736
00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:10,280
Speaker 2: I mean, come on, it's just slotting the sliding sliding gloves.

737
00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:13,040
Speaker 2: I mean, really, do you have to I mean, I

738
00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:15,560
Speaker 2: just I don't know. I used to see when Bobby

739
00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:17,080
Speaker 2: Benie used to come up to bat, it looked like

740
00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:19,120
Speaker 2: he was going to war, but only armor he was

741
00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:20,800
Speaker 2: wearing at the play. I mean, under his arm on

742
00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:24,880
Speaker 2: there's elbow. I mean, come on, really, it just shouldn't

743
00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:27,080
Speaker 2: be that way, but it is. And I still love baseball,

744
00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:30,239
Speaker 2: but man, it's just a lot different right now. And

745
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:31,200
Speaker 2: I don't know if it's better.

746
00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:32,239
Speaker 4: That's the thing. I don't know.

747
00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:34,520
Speaker 3: If do you think it's better, I don't know.

748
00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:36,719
Speaker 5: I mean I think it's different. I think it's better

749
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:38,840
Speaker 5: than it's been in the past. I think there's more excitement.

750
00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:41,000
Speaker 5: I think we've seen more stats kind of come back

751
00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:43,759
Speaker 5: into the fold in terms of stolen bases in those

752
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:46,640
Speaker 5: things because of some of the tweaks that baseball has made. Yeah,

753
00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:49,640
Speaker 5: it's a better product, but it's a long product. I mean,

754
00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:52,920
Speaker 5: to be invested in baseball. I mean that's a long commitment,

755
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:56,719
Speaker 5: going from April to October, the amount of games, it's

756
00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:59,160
Speaker 5: just a long commitment. And so I think the game

757
00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:00,960
Speaker 5: is in a good play. There are a lot of

758
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:04,000
Speaker 5: people that are into it. Look, I'm a Dodgers fan.

759
00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:06,759
Speaker 5: I check out the Dodgers every time they're on, which

760
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:07,360
Speaker 5: is nightly.

761
00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:10,480
Speaker 4: So look, I dig it.

762
00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:13,480
Speaker 5: I think we're all in no stalgic about how it

763
00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:15,960
Speaker 5: used to be when it comes to baseball and the

764
00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:18,879
Speaker 5: All Star Game and those things just a different time.

765
00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:20,920
Speaker 5: We have so many other things that are at our

766
00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:23,920
Speaker 5: disposal that sometimes we can get distracted and not pay

767
00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:25,920
Speaker 5: attention to the things that really used to matter back

768
00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:26,359
Speaker 5: in the day.

769
00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:26,799
Speaker 4: Yeah.

770
00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:28,879
Speaker 2: I don't need to hear about launch angles. Those things

771
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:29,520
Speaker 2: make me crazy.

772
00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:29,839
Speaker 4: Al Right.

773
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:32,799
Speaker 2: He's Bucky Brooks and Andy Fermawel, Fox Sports Sunday on

774
00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:35,439
Speaker 2: Fox Sports. Ready the man with all your answers. It's

775
00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:38,600
Speaker 2: Bucky Brooks. It's Bucky. It's next. Ask Bucky, coming right up.

776
00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:40,840
Speaker 2: This is Fox Sports Sunday, on Fox Sports Rady about

777
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:43,279
Speaker 2: eleven minutes before the top of the hour, and he's

778
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:45,120
Speaker 2: Bucky Brooks and Andy Furman and we're live on the

779
00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:47,440
Speaker 2: Fox Sports radio studios. Let's do a little bit of

780
00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:48,839
Speaker 2: ass Bucky, Patty.

781
00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:51,399
Speaker 3: Are you ready? Oh, I'm ready. Let's do it, Baby,

782
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:52,399
Speaker 3: Let's do it.

783
00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:55,520
Speaker 9: So I got one first, and it's a fun one

784
00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:58,640
Speaker 9: for you, Buck. So in baseball right now, you know,

785
00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:01,160
Speaker 9: we have all these nicknames, and you know, like what

786
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:04,439
Speaker 9: was well Derek Jeter was was like the Captain Wright

787
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:07,360
Speaker 9: or I may be butchering that one. That was beyond

788
00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:09,960
Speaker 9: my time before I started watching. But so we have

789
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:13,719
Speaker 9: a new nickname. So Cal Rawley for the Mariners, right

790
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:17,440
Speaker 9: he's having a phenomenal year. He has a new nickname.

791
00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:22,960
Speaker 9: He's called Big Dumper. It's so funny. My question to you, Buck,

792
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:25,279
Speaker 9: is that inspired me? If you were to have a

793
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:27,719
Speaker 9: nickname in baseball, if you were saying to be, you know,

794
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:30,319
Speaker 9: a hitting baseball player, what would your nickname want to be?

795
00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:31,480
Speaker 3: Oh?

796
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:35,239
Speaker 5: Well, not not big dumper. I don't I don't want that, right,

797
00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:38,760
Speaker 5: I liked it big in front.

798
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:39,040
Speaker 4: That's it.

799
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:41,520
Speaker 5: Maybe big bopper or something like that, but not not

800
00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:44,840
Speaker 5: big Dumper. You know, I couldn't do that. I couldn't

801
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:47,080
Speaker 5: do that. That's that's not good. That's not a good name,

802
00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:47,720
Speaker 5: Big Dumper.

803
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:49,640
Speaker 3: Okay, there we move on, all right.

804
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:52,520
Speaker 2: I gotta ask Bucky Brooks, now, tell us the best

805
00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:55,319
Speaker 2: prepared coach and teacher that you ever played for on

806
00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:55,960
Speaker 2: any level.

807
00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:59,839
Speaker 5: Mighty Schottenhammer. Mighty Schttenhammer should be in the Hall of Fame.

808
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:01,840
Speaker 5: Sean hum was one of the best coaches that I

809
00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:05,920
Speaker 5: ever had. And when I talked about Marty, it's important

810
00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:08,279
Speaker 5: for me to talk about he was a guy who

811
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:12,040
Speaker 5: was an English major. He had taught high school and

812
00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:14,960
Speaker 5: he coached the pro team like a high school team.

813
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:19,520
Speaker 5: His preparation was outstanding. He was really keen on the details.

814
00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:21,920
Speaker 5: He by far was one of the best coaches that

815
00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:24,160
Speaker 5: I had. And that's saying a lot with Tom Coughlin,

816
00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:28,239
Speaker 5: Marv Levy, Mike Holmger and John Gruden who impacted me

817
00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:29,120
Speaker 5: as pro coaches.

818
00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:30,560
Speaker 3: You know, I'm surprised you. I thought you were going

819
00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:33,200
Speaker 3: to say Marv Levy. I really did. But was Marv

820
00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:34,799
Speaker 3: Lee Wasn't he an English teacher as well or a

821
00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:35,440
Speaker 3: history teacher?

822
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:37,879
Speaker 4: I thought he was? He was. He was well read

823
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:38,479
Speaker 4: in those things.

824
00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:41,960
Speaker 5: But for me, like Marv was great with those Buffalo

825
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:43,520
Speaker 5: Bills teams, but they were older.

826
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:44,520
Speaker 4: I was a young guy.

827
00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:46,520
Speaker 5: I was a rookie plan on those Buffalo Bills teams

828
00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:48,600
Speaker 5: that had gone to four Street Super Bowls. So it

829
00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:51,360
Speaker 5: was a different impact that he had. Like he was

830
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:53,640
Speaker 5: great in his own right, obviously he's a Hall of Famer.

831
00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:56,320
Speaker 5: Marty was different in terms of like boots on the ground,

832
00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:59,640
Speaker 5: very into it, very doubted and detailed when it came

833
00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:00,480
Speaker 5: to it.

834
00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:01,319
Speaker 3: Sounds great, okay.

835
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:04,200
Speaker 2: And as we approach training camp for NFL teams, what

836
00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:07,040
Speaker 2: kind of an offseason program do players actually work on

837
00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:08,120
Speaker 2: until they get the camp.

838
00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:12,080
Speaker 5: Now, everybody's on their own, and it's a little scary

839
00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:17,080
Speaker 5: when you're on your own like this, because look, man,

840
00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:18,920
Speaker 5: you're working out on your field, you're working out wherever

841
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:20,719
Speaker 5: you can find, and you're doing things on your own,

842
00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:22,480
Speaker 5: and you still have to ramp it up because it

843
00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:26,680
Speaker 5: has to match the intensity that it would that you

844
00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:29,560
Speaker 5: would be giving if you were in a facility. Because

845
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:33,399
Speaker 5: when you show up in training camp, they're ready to go,

846
00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:36,960
Speaker 5: and so it's a lot on you. So right now,

847
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:39,480
Speaker 5: everyone's working out hard, they're doing the conditioning and running

848
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:41,680
Speaker 5: the individual workout, the agilities, the stuffs that.

849
00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:43,319
Speaker 4: You can see on Instagram.

850
00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:45,359
Speaker 5: You just want to be careful because you're away from

851
00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:49,520
Speaker 5: the facility, so it may not be the best facilities

852
00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:51,640
Speaker 5: and resources that you have at your disposal.

853
00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:54,959
Speaker 2: All right, Okay. Her salary is seventy eight thousand dollars

854
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:58,080
Speaker 2: for the season. How much is Caitlin Clark actually worth?

855
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:03,000
Speaker 5: I think she's probably making a couple million, maybe more

856
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:07,800
Speaker 5: annually from all the different sponsorships and things that she has.

857
00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:10,960
Speaker 5: She is immensely popular in the business world, and she's

858
00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:13,239
Speaker 5: done a great job of parlaying her success on the

859
00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:16,680
Speaker 5: floor to success in the boardroom. I would expect her

860
00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:19,560
Speaker 5: to a few million at a minimum.

861
00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:20,359
Speaker 4: There you go.

862
00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:20,760
Speaker 3: Okay.

863
00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:25,080
Speaker 2: Form of Cincinnati, Rich Catcher took a barhard surprisingly retired

864
00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:27,880
Speaker 2: after tot seasons just the other day. So when is

865
00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:30,439
Speaker 2: the time to say when? How do you know when

866
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:33,280
Speaker 2: to retire? That's an athlete, for sure.

867
00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:36,760
Speaker 5: I think there's an individual decision. I think some people

868
00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:40,600
Speaker 5: understand when it's time. The time is when you know

869
00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:44,000
Speaker 5: that the things that you know are part of the

870
00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:46,560
Speaker 5: preparation process that have to.

871
00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:48,879
Speaker 4: Be done, where you really don't feel like doing them.

872
00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:52,239
Speaker 5: And that's when you know that it's over. When you

873
00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:55,920
Speaker 5: don't have the love to get ready for the preparation process,

874
00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:58,120
Speaker 5: that's when the game is over. And that happens at

875
00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:02,799
Speaker 5: different stages for people. But you know, and look, your

876
00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:05,280
Speaker 5: mind would you one thing, but your body.

877
00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:06,719
Speaker 4: Will let you know that. Hey man, it's over. It's

878
00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:07,080
Speaker 4: a wrap.

879
00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:09,399
Speaker 2: I'm surprised you said that, because you're telling me more.

880
00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:12,120
Speaker 2: It's a mental thing than lack of ability. It's not

881
00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:15,520
Speaker 2: the skill that's eroding. It's just that you don't want

882
00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:16,200
Speaker 2: to do it anymore.

883
00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:18,040
Speaker 4: It's a desire to get ready.

884
00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:19,680
Speaker 5: It's a desire to do all the things that you

885
00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:22,759
Speaker 5: need to do to get ready mentally and physically to

886
00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:24,000
Speaker 5: participate at a high level.

887
00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:25,080
Speaker 3: There we go.

888
00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:29,200
Speaker 2: Now sometimes you go from the penthouse to the outhouse.

889
00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:32,320
Speaker 2: That and so much more right here on Fox Sports Sunday,

890
00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:41,760
Speaker 2: coming up next, from worst to first or first to worst,

891
00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:44,520
Speaker 2: that's right around the corner. Good morning, everybody. This is

892
00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:47,399
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Sunday on Fox Sports Radio. He's Bucky Brooks

893
00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:50,279
Speaker 2: and Andy Ferman and we are broadcasting live from the

894
00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:51,520
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio studios.

895
00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:52,120
Speaker 3: And a way we go.

896
00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:54,600
Speaker 2: Bucky, how you doing are you recuperating for the fourth

897
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:56,760
Speaker 2: of July. I don't think it's that rough of a holiday.

898
00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:57,480
Speaker 2: I really don't.

899
00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:00,800
Speaker 4: You don't think it's a rough of be a rough holloway.

900
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:02,919
Speaker 2: They say it's the biggest drinking day of the year,

901
00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:05,400
Speaker 2: and I thought maybe New Year's Eve might have been.

902
00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:07,880
Speaker 2: But they say the July fourth holiday is the biggest

903
00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:08,879
Speaker 2: drinking day of the year.

904
00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:09,719
Speaker 3: Didn't know that.

905
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:12,279
Speaker 5: Yeah, I believe that though. I believe there are a lot

906
00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:15,120
Speaker 5: of people consuming beverages, a lot of people.

907
00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:17,720
Speaker 3: When they say drink, I just could say it's alcohol

908
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:18,799
Speaker 3: and not just soda pop.

909
00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:22,200
Speaker 4: Right, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, adult pop.

910
00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:24,560
Speaker 2: That's what we're right, adult pop. You took the day

911
00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:26,800
Speaker 2: up because I was looking for NFL dot com. You eclum,

912
00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:28,080
Speaker 2: You did not right this week?

913
00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:30,359
Speaker 4: No to the week off?

914
00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:32,560
Speaker 5: Like this is it, though, Andy, Because like you have

915
00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:36,880
Speaker 5: to understand, from a pro football perspective, fourth of July

916
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:40,080
Speaker 5: it's kind of like the final mile marker. It's the

917
00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:42,880
Speaker 5: last vacation. It's the last holiday that you can have

918
00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:46,160
Speaker 5: ahead of the season because once the season ramps up,

919
00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:50,200
Speaker 5: it's from now until the middle of February before you

920
00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:55,120
Speaker 5: have time off. Because this is it training camp is

921
00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:58,760
Speaker 5: two weeks away. I mean it's going to happen fast,

922
00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:00,319
Speaker 5: and before you know it, we can be right back in.

923
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:03,160
Speaker 5: And so yeah, so took this week off and then

924
00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:07,240
Speaker 5: starting tomorrow with everything like everything begins to ram back up.

925
00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:08,960
Speaker 2: There you go, and I look forward to it, and

926
00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:11,080
Speaker 2: so's everybody else int NFL dot com. You know, I

927
00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:12,920
Speaker 2: heard the Top of the Hour Sports with Steve the

928
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:15,840
Speaker 2: Seger and all of a sudden, I'm saying, wait a minute,

929
00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:18,440
Speaker 2: there was seventy six thousand people in New Jersey for

930
00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:21,160
Speaker 2: a soccer game, sixty thousand plus in Atlanta for the

931
00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:24,680
Speaker 2: by Our Munich game and soccer you know. To me,

932
00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:28,120
Speaker 2: I mean, I look, as I said, I was a

933
00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:30,440
Speaker 2: publicist for the Fort Lauderdale Striper's Way back in the

934
00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:33,080
Speaker 2: North American Soccer League, and we had George Best and

935
00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:36,399
Speaker 2: Gert Mula who played for Munich. And when we went

936
00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:38,040
Speaker 2: to New York to play the Cosmos and they had

937
00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:40,360
Speaker 2: Pele may he rest in peace. They did have seventy

938
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:43,000
Speaker 2: six thousand people, but if you walked around the stadium,

939
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:45,680
Speaker 2: no one spoke English. I mean seriously, I mean it

940
00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:48,520
Speaker 2: was people from all ethnic backgrounds watching, you know, the

941
00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:52,400
Speaker 2: soccer games that Canalia was playing for the Cosmos. A

942
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:55,400
Speaker 2: lot of people speaking Italian and the German people speaking

943
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:57,920
Speaker 2: in the stand. So I'm not so certain many Americans

944
00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:00,320
Speaker 2: are going to the I mean not native America Pekins,

945
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:05,200
Speaker 2: but people naturalized Americans maybe whatever, but people from foreign lands,

946
00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:09,000
Speaker 2: born in different countries that came here watching soccer. I

947
00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:13,520
Speaker 2: just I'm shocked. I'm shocked at seventy six and sixty

948
00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:16,400
Speaker 2: thousand people attended those games. When you see those numbers,

949
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:17,919
Speaker 2: does it make you crazy a little bit too?

950
00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:21,000
Speaker 5: No, not at all, because if you go outside of

951
00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:24,720
Speaker 5: the US, soccer is the most Soccer is the world's

952
00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:25,640
Speaker 5: most popular sport.

953
00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:26,520
Speaker 4: It is.

954
00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:29,480
Speaker 5: Every country is really big in the soccer. It just

955
00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:32,839
Speaker 5: hasn't hit for whatever reason in the US. So I'm

956
00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:38,279
Speaker 5: not surprised. Having spent significant time overseas in London and

957
00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:42,000
Speaker 5: in Europe, like when those soccer matches are everything, I'm

958
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:45,400
Speaker 5: not surprised that it's growing in popularity. Even though our

959
00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:49,720
Speaker 5: level of soccer at the professional ranks is step below

960
00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:54,400
Speaker 5: what we see on those premier leagues, those European top leagues,

961
00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:58,799
Speaker 5: they're still good players. There's still players that are participating

962
00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:00,920
Speaker 5: that you want to see I get that.

963
00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:04,080
Speaker 2: Well, it's funny you mentioned the fact that you overseas,

964
00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:05,640
Speaker 2: you with you there, and you don't know why it's

965
00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:08,799
Speaker 2: really caught on here. It's because the players that are

966
00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:11,960
Speaker 2: here a you know, the better days were played in

967
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:13,759
Speaker 2: Europe when they come here at the end of their

968
00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:17,319
Speaker 2: contractual agreement to come in the MLS. And number two,

969
00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:19,799
Speaker 2: the fact that they're not here, they're not fro You

970
00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:22,160
Speaker 2: can't follow them. I mean, why is college football so

971
00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:24,640
Speaker 2: popular because we followed the kids in college and we

972
00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:26,000
Speaker 2: follow them right to the NFL.

973
00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:27,760
Speaker 3: You know, why is baseball hurting?

974
00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:32,440
Speaker 2: There is no personality really in baseball to follow you know,

975
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:35,640
Speaker 2: Oheotani maybe, but he doesn't speak English.

976
00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:37,839
Speaker 3: He goes around with an interpreter. I mean that doesn't help.

977
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:38,720
Speaker 3: It really doesn't.

978
00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:41,960
Speaker 2: Okay, Aaron Judge, he could be the personality, but he

979
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:44,960
Speaker 2: doesn't have the personality to be the personality. Really, he's

980
00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:47,480
Speaker 2: kind of a shy kind of guy. So, and they

981
00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:49,960
Speaker 2: don't have homegrown guys. I mean a lot of these

982
00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:53,920
Speaker 2: guys that don't speak English. People here don't relate to them.

983
00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:56,120
Speaker 2: You can't follow them. You never follow them from college.

984
00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:57,759
Speaker 2: And in baseball they were in the minor leagues for

985
00:44:57,800 --> 00:44:59,839
Speaker 2: three four five years before they get here.

986
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:00,239
Speaker 4: Poop.

987
00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:01,000
Speaker 3: Well, it's perfect.

988
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:05,480
Speaker 2: It's a perfect situation college NFL being you follow them, Okay,

989
00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:08,359
Speaker 2: As far as NBA, it's tough. I never know who

990
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:10,880
Speaker 2: Giannis was and before he came, when he played in Greece,

991
00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:12,839
Speaker 2: before he came to the Bucks, I have no idea

992
00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:14,960
Speaker 2: who he was. I love watching him play now, but

993
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:17,759
Speaker 2: I have no idea. Really, I wasn't excited about him

994
00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:20,040
Speaker 2: because I never heard of him. That's the problem, I think,

995
00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:23,879
Speaker 2: and I think it hurts the popularity of the individual league.

996
00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:24,800
Speaker 3: Don't you agree.

997
00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:26,640
Speaker 4: I agree.

998
00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:31,439
Speaker 5: In terms of the popularity being hurt by, I would

999
00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:34,800
Speaker 5: say the international influence and flavor. However, I would say

1000
00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:38,440
Speaker 5: some of these wounds are self inflicted because soccer has

1001
00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:41,799
Speaker 5: not done a great job of being much like the

1002
00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:43,120
Speaker 5: world sport.

1003
00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:48,200
Speaker 4: Is different. Soccer at the lower levels is the rich

1004
00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:49,239
Speaker 4: get richer.

1005
00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:54,360
Speaker 5: Meaning club soccer is for a socio economic class that

1006
00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:59,840
Speaker 5: sometimes excludes the best athletes from participating. The exorbitant fees

1007
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:02,959
Speaker 5: that it costs to participate in soccer at the lower

1008
00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:06,960
Speaker 5: levels leaves out a lot of the kids that would participate.

1009
00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:08,560
Speaker 4: There would be some of your best players.

1010
00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:12,759
Speaker 5: For instance, Odell Beckham Junior was a high level junior

1011
00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:16,000
Speaker 5: level soccer player, but he goes and plays football.

1012
00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:18,920
Speaker 4: There are others that would be in.

1013
00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:21,560
Speaker 5: The same vein that could participate and really add some

1014
00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:27,440
Speaker 5: flair and flavor to the sport, but accessibility resources prevents

1015
00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:32,040
Speaker 5: them from participating in the sport. And so until the

1016
00:46:32,239 --> 00:46:36,080
Speaker 5: US looks at a different model and the way that

1017
00:46:36,120 --> 00:46:39,400
Speaker 5: it attracts athletes, the way that it goes about the

1018
00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:43,759
Speaker 5: selection process and opening up the doors for others to participate,

1019
00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:47,600
Speaker 5: it is always going to lag behind the world in

1020
00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:51,160
Speaker 5: terms of participation and skill level because you don't have

1021
00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:55,399
Speaker 5: your best athletes or all of your best athletes participating

1022
00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:57,120
Speaker 5: in the sport, which is why they can't compete at

1023
00:46:57,120 --> 00:46:59,719
Speaker 5: the higher level and is also why you don't have

1024
00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:02,160
Speaker 5: the interest that you would have if you have more

1025
00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:03,680
Speaker 5: homegrown stars participating.

1026
00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:06,719
Speaker 2: You know, I had no idea that Odell Beckham Junior

1027
00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:09,319
Speaker 2: was a soccer star. Okay, but here's the deal. If

1028
00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:11,560
Speaker 2: I'm a soccer star and a football STARF five star

1029
00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:14,440
Speaker 2: athlete in football, I'll go in the football direction. I

1030
00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:17,080
Speaker 2: understand maybe the possibility of injury is a little greater

1031
00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:19,880
Speaker 2: in football, but the notoriety is a lot better, at

1032
00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:22,200
Speaker 2: least in all country. Playing in the National Football League.

1033
00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:24,520
Speaker 2: I don't think there's any question. I don't think you

1034
00:47:24,560 --> 00:47:26,720
Speaker 2: have the football pall the real question, right.

1035
00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:29,800
Speaker 5: But the money, the money is more significant in soccer

1036
00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:33,480
Speaker 5: if you play overseas all the money, right, Yeah, the

1037
00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:36,239
Speaker 5: money is the money is significant. So if we talk

1038
00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:40,960
Speaker 5: about like wealth and game changing money, the money overseas

1039
00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:42,080
Speaker 5: is significant.

1040
00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:44,960
Speaker 4: The global impact that you have.

1041
00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:49,880
Speaker 5: Is different because like we can talk about Ronaldo, we

1042
00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:52,120
Speaker 5: can talk about Messi, we can talk about these people

1043
00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:55,480
Speaker 5: that we say one word, they're global superstars and it's

1044
00:47:55,520 --> 00:47:58,160
Speaker 5: great to be a star in the NFL, but you're

1045
00:47:58,200 --> 00:48:02,080
Speaker 5: not a global star. Like that's different. There are different

1046
00:48:02,160 --> 00:48:06,319
Speaker 5: levels when it comes to superstardom. David Beckham is a

1047
00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:09,960
Speaker 5: global superstar. Like those things really matter. And so if

1048
00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:13,200
Speaker 5: we get beyond our arrogance in terms of our country,

1049
00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:15,759
Speaker 5: looking at like what we do in our country as

1050
00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:18,080
Speaker 5: the end all be all, there's a bigger thing out where,

1051
00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:24,080
Speaker 5: and there's a gateway to international stardom, wealth, all of

1052
00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:26,600
Speaker 5: those things. If you are able to participate in some

1053
00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:30,440
Speaker 5: of those sports that do have a global worldwide impact.

1054
00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:32,000
Speaker 3: Do you make a great point. But here's the thing.

1055
00:48:32,080 --> 00:48:36,080
Speaker 2: All those global stars started in their country, not here.

1056
00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:38,120
Speaker 2: I think it's very difficult to go from the US

1057
00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:40,520
Speaker 2: of A to become a global star over there. In Europe,

1058
00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:42,600
Speaker 2: it will be the same situation that we have when

1059
00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:44,920
Speaker 2: we get an NBA player from Greece coming over the year.

1060
00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:48,600
Speaker 2: It's an unknown and I think it's difficult. Beckham was

1061
00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:51,160
Speaker 2: a global was a star in England and he came

1062
00:48:51,239 --> 00:48:54,680
Speaker 2: here with a big ret from England and he came here. Luckily,

1063
00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:56,839
Speaker 2: he came on a Miami team in the league, and

1064
00:48:56,920 --> 00:49:00,239
Speaker 2: you know, he became that global star coming here. You know,

1065
00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:02,480
Speaker 2: has he made the impact here as he did in England?

1066
00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:05,879
Speaker 2: I don't think so. Again, these guys come here at

1067
00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:07,880
Speaker 2: the tail end of their career and the twilight of

1068
00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:10,880
Speaker 2: their career. They've had their better days in Europe and

1069
00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:13,319
Speaker 2: they come here with that rep, make the big money,

1070
00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:15,520
Speaker 2: try to sell tickets here. But they had their big

1071
00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:18,080
Speaker 2: days I think in Europe before coming here.

1072
00:49:18,840 --> 00:49:21,440
Speaker 5: I mean that is true. But also the difference is

1073
00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:24,440
Speaker 5: skill level. The reason why we haven't had a homegrown

1074
00:49:24,560 --> 00:49:29,720
Speaker 5: star go overseas and dominate is because the skill level

1075
00:49:30,160 --> 00:49:34,840
Speaker 5: we're not developing the same kind of players that internationally

1076
00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:37,359
Speaker 5: are being developed, which is why we can't go and

1077
00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:38,480
Speaker 5: make that impact.

1078
00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:39,640
Speaker 4: But it's funny that.

1079
00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:41,880
Speaker 5: You brought basketball because I think basketball would be the

1080
00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:47,320
Speaker 5: greatest example. Lukatdancich comes over and immediately makes an impact

1081
00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:51,160
Speaker 5: as a star, global icon, comes over to a sport

1082
00:49:51,239 --> 00:49:54,000
Speaker 5: that is our sport because basketball is our sport. He

1083
00:49:54,080 --> 00:49:58,160
Speaker 5: comes over, makes an immediate impact. Victor wimbin Yama same thing.

1084
00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:01,440
Speaker 5: It took Jannis a little longer the cook, but he

1085
00:50:01,520 --> 00:50:04,000
Speaker 5: has made an impact. In fact, you can say that

1086
00:50:04,040 --> 00:50:07,760
Speaker 5: the best players in the NBA are the international players.

1087
00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:09,279
Speaker 4: That's problematic.

1088
00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:12,759
Speaker 5: Why is that because their skill level is making it

1089
00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:16,480
Speaker 5: where they're sought after, they're desired in those things. So

1090
00:50:16,520 --> 00:50:20,000
Speaker 5: from a US standpoint when it comes to soccer, if

1091
00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:24,040
Speaker 5: we get the skill level up to par when it

1092
00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:27,640
Speaker 5: comes to US born players competing at the world level,

1093
00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:30,240
Speaker 5: then they will have an opportunity to go in those

1094
00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:35,200
Speaker 5: respective leagues and dominate. So it's not about like who's going,

1095
00:50:35,600 --> 00:50:39,600
Speaker 5: is who's going with the skills overseas to be able

1096
00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:41,560
Speaker 5: to have a potential impact, which is also why the

1097
00:50:41,640 --> 00:50:45,319
Speaker 5: US soccer team men's in particularly they can't win at

1098
00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:48,360
Speaker 5: that level. We don't see the men compete at the

1099
00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:50,399
Speaker 5: highest level when it comes to the World Cup.

1100
00:50:50,640 --> 00:50:51,680
Speaker 4: Why skill level?

1101
00:50:52,239 --> 00:50:55,120
Speaker 2: Right, No, you're right, exactly right. And as far as

1102
00:50:55,160 --> 00:50:57,279
Speaker 2: the basketball's concerning, you make a great point. But it's

1103
00:50:57,320 --> 00:50:59,640
Speaker 2: nothing new because didn't Tony Park who play for the

1104
00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:01,960
Speaker 2: Sports way back in the day, was a star in

1105
00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:05,959
Speaker 2: France before he came here. Yeah, it's nothing new, really,

1106
00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:08,200
Speaker 2: it has not been a new thing. But you know,

1107
00:51:08,239 --> 00:51:10,279
Speaker 2: speaking of crowds, is goin to started with this with

1108
00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:14,000
Speaker 2: the soccer crowds of seventy six thousand plus. Here's another situation.

1109
00:51:14,080 --> 00:51:16,200
Speaker 2: I saw this the other day spinning the dial. And

1110
00:51:16,239 --> 00:51:18,680
Speaker 2: they came to Cincinnati a couple of weeks ago, to Savannah,

1111
00:51:18,719 --> 00:51:21,440
Speaker 2: bananaz These guys are still They sold out a Clemson

1112
00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:24,520
Speaker 2: a couple of weeks ago the football stadium. Have you

1113
00:51:24,560 --> 00:51:26,920
Speaker 2: seen them play? I mean, like the Hallam Globe charters

1114
00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:29,640
Speaker 2: at baseball. Tell me what the attraction is there, because

1115
00:51:29,640 --> 00:51:31,600
Speaker 2: I think if you are, they going to be like

1116
00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:34,399
Speaker 2: a flash in the pan because once you see them,

1117
00:51:34,600 --> 00:51:35,880
Speaker 2: you've seen them one time. I don't think you're going

1118
00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:37,840
Speaker 2: to go back to see him again. He've seen the show.

1119
00:51:38,360 --> 00:51:41,440
Speaker 2: I mean, but this sold out and everywhere they go,

1120
00:51:41,760 --> 00:51:43,800
Speaker 2: like one hundred and fifty sellouts and there's a waiting

1121
00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:45,719
Speaker 2: list for tickets. To get a ticket, you got to

1122
00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:48,200
Speaker 2: go online and be on a waiting list. What's the

1123
00:51:48,239 --> 00:51:51,360
Speaker 2: attraction there? If you've seen them.

1124
00:51:51,160 --> 00:51:53,000
Speaker 4: It's the same thing as Harlem Globetrotters.

1125
00:51:53,200 --> 00:51:56,640
Speaker 5: They've done a great job of tapping into the art

1126
00:51:56,640 --> 00:52:00,000
Speaker 5: of entertainment using sport as the main vehicle. The Savannah

1127
00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:04,000
Speaker 5: Bananas have Look, they've done it. Look they've expanded, and

1128
00:52:04,080 --> 00:52:06,160
Speaker 5: really it's happened within the last five years, and I

1129
00:52:06,200 --> 00:52:08,200
Speaker 5: would really say the last two to three years they've

1130
00:52:08,239 --> 00:52:12,200
Speaker 5: gone and expanded their brand. They went from being the

1131
00:52:12,200 --> 00:52:13,800
Speaker 5: minor league team that you would have to go to

1132
00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:16,640
Speaker 5: Savannah to watch have a good time, to now they're

1133
00:52:16,680 --> 00:52:19,760
Speaker 5: traveling all over selling out eighty to one hundred thousand

1134
00:52:19,800 --> 00:52:20,719
Speaker 5: seat stadiums.

1135
00:52:20,960 --> 00:52:23,680
Speaker 4: And it's because what you would like to.

1136
00:52:23,640 --> 00:52:26,399
Speaker 5: Do is you have a small family man, you want

1137
00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:29,399
Speaker 5: to go look at a sporting event and you want

1138
00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:31,759
Speaker 5: everyone to be entertained. You want the adults and the

1139
00:52:31,840 --> 00:52:34,600
Speaker 5: kids to get something out of it. The Bananas have

1140
00:52:34,680 --> 00:52:38,200
Speaker 5: done a great job of tapping into the imagination of

1141
00:52:38,360 --> 00:52:41,880
Speaker 5: all their fans, young and old, and much like the

1142
00:52:41,920 --> 00:52:45,960
Speaker 5: Harlem Globetrotters, Globe Trotters had an extended run where everybody

1143
00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:48,200
Speaker 5: went to see them, even though you knew what was happening.

1144
00:52:48,440 --> 00:52:51,640
Speaker 5: They're never losing to the Washington Generals and those things.

1145
00:52:52,040 --> 00:52:55,680
Speaker 5: It's the entertainment value. The Savannah Bananas have been able

1146
00:52:55,719 --> 00:52:59,239
Speaker 5: to captivate the minds of their audiences, which is why

1147
00:52:59,320 --> 00:53:02,040
Speaker 5: you come back, you you go away, you walk away

1148
00:53:02,160 --> 00:53:05,359
Speaker 5: leaving being entertained, saying, man, that was a fun two

1149
00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:06,120
Speaker 5: to three hours.

1150
00:53:06,239 --> 00:53:07,520
Speaker 4: I would do that all over again.

1151
00:53:08,320 --> 00:53:10,959
Speaker 2: And the funny thing is that I think the Globe

1152
00:53:10,960 --> 00:53:13,319
Speaker 2: Trotter is right now. I think the air has been

1153
00:53:13,320 --> 00:53:15,560
Speaker 2: out of the balloon. I don't think they are today

1154
00:53:15,719 --> 00:53:18,359
Speaker 2: is what they were maybe five ten years ago. I mean,

1155
00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:20,640
Speaker 2: people don't even talk about them. They really don't. It's

1156
00:53:20,680 --> 00:53:24,040
Speaker 2: a different it's a different show. I mean, I don't

1157
00:53:24,120 --> 00:53:26,640
Speaker 2: understand what happened to them. They lost the magic, and

1158
00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:28,040
Speaker 2: I don't know how they lost the magic.

1159
00:53:28,920 --> 00:53:31,480
Speaker 4: Well, I mean, look, it's hard to extend one.

1160
00:53:32,040 --> 00:53:34,160
Speaker 5: The Harlem Globe try to show you how hard it

1161
00:53:34,200 --> 00:53:35,239
Speaker 5: is to stay on top.

1162
00:53:35,360 --> 00:53:36,120
Speaker 4: They were on top.

1163
00:53:36,200 --> 00:53:41,560
Speaker 5: The brand is an iconic brand and the stars were significant.

1164
00:53:42,320 --> 00:53:44,880
Speaker 4: You think about Meadow Arc Lemon, they might slick. You

1165
00:53:44,880 --> 00:53:45,640
Speaker 4: think about all.

1166
00:53:45,600 --> 00:53:49,280
Speaker 5: The guys that were I would say the core members

1167
00:53:49,560 --> 00:53:54,560
Speaker 5: of that. They had a unique ability to entertain, score,

1168
00:53:54,800 --> 00:53:59,720
Speaker 5: the flare, showmanship, all of that matters. And look, they

1169
00:53:59,840 --> 00:54:02,600
Speaker 5: try to pass it on, but you almost have to

1170
00:54:02,640 --> 00:54:06,800
Speaker 5: have prominent players who were really name brands in college

1171
00:54:07,520 --> 00:54:10,640
Speaker 5: make their way to the globetrotters and find a way

1172
00:54:10,680 --> 00:54:12,480
Speaker 5: to give it legitimacy.

1173
00:54:13,160 --> 00:54:15,200
Speaker 4: And right now, like it's just a phase.

1174
00:54:15,239 --> 00:54:17,920
Speaker 5: It kind of phased out, but there's always a way

1175
00:54:17,960 --> 00:54:19,919
Speaker 5: to recapture it, but it would take some notable names

1176
00:54:19,960 --> 00:54:20,719
Speaker 5: to help them bring it back.

1177
00:54:20,760 --> 00:54:22,200
Speaker 2: Well, I think it's all about money. I mean, if

1178
00:54:22,200 --> 00:54:24,120
Speaker 2: the kids in college, you know, he's going to go

1179
00:54:24,200 --> 00:54:26,000
Speaker 2: try to go to the NBA. I don't think any

1180
00:54:26,280 --> 00:54:28,160
Speaker 2: college basketball players dream is to play.

1181
00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:32,239
Speaker 5: They don't expire to be all them glow trotters. Yeah,

1182
00:54:32,280 --> 00:54:36,919
Speaker 5: I mean there's certainly a lot to that. You know, Look,

1183
00:54:37,200 --> 00:54:39,160
Speaker 5: it'd be funny and there's so many different options when

1184
00:54:39,160 --> 00:54:40,919
Speaker 5: it comes to basketball, and watch you got the Big

1185
00:54:40,960 --> 00:54:44,400
Speaker 5: Three that is increasing in prominence. We're seeing older players

1186
00:54:44,480 --> 00:54:48,080
Speaker 5: kind of phase out and do those things. Everyone goes

1187
00:54:48,200 --> 00:54:51,760
Speaker 5: international because the money over in Europe is significant. China,

1188
00:54:51,960 --> 00:54:55,480
Speaker 5: I mean, you can make a ton of money. It's

1189
00:54:55,560 --> 00:54:59,480
Speaker 5: a unique market to tap into. And it's one that

1190
00:54:59,480 --> 00:55:03,560
Speaker 5: they're finally increasingly difficult to carve out their space. But

1191
00:55:03,960 --> 00:55:06,840
Speaker 5: there's always a way to rebuild the brand.

1192
00:55:07,080 --> 00:55:08,600
Speaker 4: They have to figure out what works for them.

1193
00:55:09,160 --> 00:55:11,719
Speaker 2: You know, you talk about carve out your space. Who

1194
00:55:11,760 --> 00:55:14,279
Speaker 2: has carved out their space better? And we talked about

1195
00:55:14,280 --> 00:55:17,480
Speaker 2: this many times about seasons overlapping and you mentioned to

1196
00:55:17,520 --> 00:55:19,439
Speaker 2: me and we talk about we're really going to start

1197
00:55:19,480 --> 00:55:22,960
Speaker 2: following baseball now because the NBA players are over carving

1198
00:55:22,960 --> 00:55:25,319
Speaker 2: out the space. No one has done it better than

1199
00:55:25,320 --> 00:55:28,080
Speaker 2: the WNBA. There's nothing going on right now ex to

1200
00:55:28,160 --> 00:55:31,279
Speaker 2: the WNBA. Think about that. I mean they have really

1201
00:55:31,320 --> 00:55:32,840
Speaker 2: call I don't know if they did it intentionally, it

1202
00:55:32,960 --> 00:55:35,040
Speaker 2: just helped to work out that way, but they have.

1203
00:55:35,520 --> 00:55:39,920
Speaker 2: Really they own it between now and maybe the first

1204
00:55:40,360 --> 00:55:43,600
Speaker 2: NFL exhibition game, it's all them, it really is. I mean,

1205
00:55:43,640 --> 00:55:47,080
Speaker 2: they own it now and that's great for them, and

1206
00:55:47,120 --> 00:55:49,000
Speaker 2: that's what people talk about it. If you're a gambler,

1207
00:55:49,360 --> 00:55:51,320
Speaker 2: I mean, that's what you do right now. You go online.

1208
00:55:51,360 --> 00:55:53,719
Speaker 2: The better on the WNBA game. That's what they're doing,

1209
00:55:53,920 --> 00:55:57,200
Speaker 2: and that's the only sporting event really that's on TV now.

1210
00:55:58,760 --> 00:56:00,919
Speaker 5: It is, but it's even more that can be done,

1211
00:56:01,320 --> 00:56:03,200
Speaker 5: you know, when it comes to the WNBA putting their

1212
00:56:03,200 --> 00:56:06,799
Speaker 5: games in prime time, even building up the sport even more.

1213
00:56:06,840 --> 00:56:11,439
Speaker 5: I love the fact that there's WNBA to expansion, going

1214
00:56:11,480 --> 00:56:13,640
Speaker 5: back to what I would say are some hub cities, right,

1215
00:56:13,680 --> 00:56:16,880
Speaker 5: so you talk about Cleveland, the Cleveland Rockers. I remember

1216
00:56:16,920 --> 00:56:20,160
Speaker 5: when they first started the Detroit Shock, which won a

1217
00:56:20,160 --> 00:56:23,480
Speaker 5: couple of championships like those our base cities. So they

1218
00:56:23,480 --> 00:56:25,799
Speaker 5: can continue to expand the brand and build on that.

1219
00:56:25,920 --> 00:56:28,800
Speaker 5: And despite what I would call the w NBA in

1220
00:56:29,000 --> 00:56:33,719
Speaker 5: fighting where it appears that their players aren't necessarily supporting

1221
00:56:33,760 --> 00:56:37,480
Speaker 5: their other players and supporting the brand, it's still a

1222
00:56:37,560 --> 00:56:40,399
Speaker 5: good product. And I know everyone that doesn't like the

1223
00:56:40,440 --> 00:56:42,840
Speaker 5: WNBA would dump on it like a hasn't turned the private,

1224
00:56:42,840 --> 00:56:46,279
Speaker 5: It hasn't done that. Obviously something is coming because they're

1225
00:56:46,280 --> 00:56:50,759
Speaker 5: pourting more money into it. There's an infrastructure there for

1226
00:56:50,800 --> 00:56:53,920
Speaker 5: this to be really a great watch, a sport that

1227
00:56:53,960 --> 00:56:57,080
Speaker 5: can really take over the summer. It's just a matter

1228
00:56:57,120 --> 00:56:59,000
Speaker 5: of putting the pieces in place. They got some of

1229
00:56:59,040 --> 00:57:01,160
Speaker 5: the players there. Kaitlyn Clark has certainly helped it. I

1230
00:57:01,160 --> 00:57:04,040
Speaker 5: won't give her all the credit, but like the brand

1231
00:57:04,160 --> 00:57:07,040
Speaker 5: is expanding, they just have to figure out a way

1232
00:57:07,080 --> 00:57:10,520
Speaker 5: to maximize the exposure and the eyeballs that are suddenly

1233
00:57:10,560 --> 00:57:11,400
Speaker 5: coming to the sport.

1234
00:57:11,960 --> 00:57:14,360
Speaker 2: It's no doubt about that, you know, speaking about that

1235
00:57:14,440 --> 00:57:17,040
Speaker 2: I mentioned coming into the segment there, from first to worst,

1236
00:57:17,520 --> 00:57:20,000
Speaker 2: you're playing on a title team, a championship team it's played.

1237
00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:22,960
Speaker 2: You play for the Philadelphia Eagles and one season and

1238
00:57:23,000 --> 00:57:26,560
Speaker 2: the next season you missed the playoffs. How devastating is that?

1239
00:57:26,600 --> 00:57:29,200
Speaker 2: And it happens. And the question is why does it happen?

1240
00:57:29,280 --> 00:57:32,600
Speaker 2: Is because they've been there, done that. There's no challenge anymore.

1241
00:57:32,880 --> 00:57:34,600
Speaker 2: You know, how does that happen? Because I got a

1242
00:57:34,640 --> 00:57:37,120
Speaker 2: couple of teams here that I think I'll be good

1243
00:57:37,120 --> 00:57:40,040
Speaker 2: discussed as we have to roll it over because we're

1244
00:57:40,080 --> 00:57:43,160
Speaker 2: doing the next segment as well, teams that I think

1245
00:57:43,160 --> 00:57:46,600
Speaker 2: that have hit this stride. But maybe they're going to

1246
00:57:46,680 --> 00:57:49,840
Speaker 2: fall down a peg or two. Really, and maybe I'm wrong,

1247
00:57:49,880 --> 00:57:52,160
Speaker 2: but I just think that you get a team like

1248
00:57:52,240 --> 00:57:53,880
Speaker 2: the Eagles. I'm not saying they're not going to go

1249
00:57:53,920 --> 00:57:55,560
Speaker 2: to the playoffs. This yearuse I think they will, But

1250
00:57:55,720 --> 00:57:57,600
Speaker 2: there's a couple of teams out there, and see if

1251
00:57:57,640 --> 00:57:59,520
Speaker 2: you agree. I'm going to start with the Buffalo Bills,

1252
00:58:00,120 --> 00:58:02,000
Speaker 2: going to say that they're not going to make the playoffs,

1253
00:58:02,040 --> 00:58:04,400
Speaker 2: but they got some in the problems right now.

1254
00:58:04,520 --> 00:58:06,800
Speaker 3: One of them has to be they're running back James Cook.

1255
00:58:06,720 --> 00:58:09,560
Speaker 2: Who wants a new contract number one, and they don't

1256
00:58:09,600 --> 00:58:11,280
Speaker 2: have anybody backing him up, so he's got to get

1257
00:58:11,280 --> 00:58:13,520
Speaker 2: the contract. He's on the last year of a rookie contract.

1258
00:58:13,560 --> 00:58:15,240
Speaker 2: They got to pay the guy, right But as you

1259
00:58:15,360 --> 00:58:17,400
Speaker 2: was only mentioned to me, I mean this is going

1260
00:58:17,480 --> 00:58:21,640
Speaker 2: to cause some infighting and some problems within the locker

1261
00:58:21,720 --> 00:58:23,960
Speaker 2: room where players are going to say, why the hell

1262
00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:26,440
Speaker 2: aren't they signing Jimmy Cook, Why aren't they signing that?

1263
00:58:26,680 --> 00:58:27,640
Speaker 3: We need him right now?

1264
00:58:27,800 --> 00:58:31,280
Speaker 2: Look, they're probably the best team in that division. They

1265
00:58:31,280 --> 00:58:34,360
Speaker 2: should have their sixth consecutive AFC title, but I'm not

1266
00:58:34,400 --> 00:58:36,000
Speaker 2: so certain they're going to go any further than that.

1267
00:58:39,040 --> 00:58:40,040
Speaker 4: Look, I think.

1268
00:58:39,920 --> 00:58:45,080
Speaker 5: They're in a very unique situation when it comes to it.

1269
00:58:45,320 --> 00:58:47,280
Speaker 5: Right Like, I think the Buffalo Bills are a team

1270
00:58:47,320 --> 00:58:49,560
Speaker 5: that is good, They're on the come up. They had

1271
00:58:49,560 --> 00:58:52,360
Speaker 5: an MVP and Josh Allen. They're good enough to be

1272
00:58:52,400 --> 00:58:55,200
Speaker 5: a super Bowl team. It's unfortunate that they play in

1273
00:58:55,240 --> 00:58:57,560
Speaker 5: an AFC that has been dominated by the Kansas City

1274
00:58:57,600 --> 00:59:00,240
Speaker 5: Chiefs and they haven't quite been able to conquer or

1275
00:59:00,720 --> 00:59:03,960
Speaker 5: that beast. And sometimes it takes a minute to be

1276
00:59:04,000 --> 00:59:06,360
Speaker 5: able to do that, and they have to learn how

1277
00:59:06,360 --> 00:59:08,120
Speaker 5: to do it, and they all they can do is

1278
00:59:08,240 --> 00:59:10,720
Speaker 5: continue to build a team that keeps knocking on the door,

1279
00:59:10,720 --> 00:59:12,360
Speaker 5: and eventually, if you knock on the door adventurely, you're

1280
00:59:12,360 --> 00:59:16,919
Speaker 5: gon knock it down. They're close, and I know it's

1281
00:59:16,920 --> 00:59:19,840
Speaker 5: frustrating for Buffalo Bills fans. Haven't been a member of

1282
00:59:19,880 --> 00:59:22,600
Speaker 5: the Buffalo Bills. I know how loyal that fan base is.

1283
00:59:23,040 --> 00:59:25,880
Speaker 5: They just haven't quite been able to get over the top.

1284
00:59:26,240 --> 00:59:29,480
Speaker 5: But they're in the conversation. And the one thing that

1285
00:59:29,520 --> 00:59:32,640
Speaker 5: I always remember from my time in Buffalo, Marv Levy

1286
00:59:32,720 --> 00:59:36,160
Speaker 5: used to say this, like the surest way to get

1287
00:59:36,160 --> 00:59:38,120
Speaker 5: the Golden ticket is to be able to own and

1288
00:59:38,160 --> 00:59:41,800
Speaker 5: dominate your division. And the Buffalo Bills have dominated that division.

1289
00:59:42,120 --> 00:59:45,480
Speaker 5: So you can almost write them in and pen that

1290
00:59:45,560 --> 00:59:46,800
Speaker 5: they're going to be in the tournament.

1291
00:59:46,840 --> 00:59:49,280
Speaker 4: And as long as you're in the tournament, you have

1292
00:59:49,360 --> 00:59:49,880
Speaker 4: a chance.

1293
00:59:50,320 --> 00:59:53,080
Speaker 5: Now it's about them learning how to vanquage some of

1294
00:59:53,120 --> 00:59:55,280
Speaker 5: the top teams. They did a good job not going

1295
00:59:55,320 --> 00:59:58,240
Speaker 5: to Baltimore. They understand how to deal with that. The

1296
00:59:58,360 --> 01:00:01,320
Speaker 5: Kansas City Chiefs have been their nemesis. They haven't quite

1297
01:00:01,320 --> 01:00:03,480
Speaker 5: been able to get over that hump, even though they

1298
01:00:03,520 --> 01:00:05,560
Speaker 5: beat him in the regular season, haven't been in the postseason.

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Speaker 5: That is the team, and they have to build a

1300
01:00:07,680 --> 01:00:10,160
Speaker 5: team that is capable of knocking off Patty Mahomes and company.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, look, you're right about running it down in pamp

1302
01:00:12,960 --> 01:00:15,640
Speaker 2: because they're going to win this sixth consecutive AFC title.

1303
01:00:15,720 --> 01:00:19,040
Speaker 2: There's no doubt about that, unless unless Josh Allen gets hurt,

1304
01:00:19,240 --> 01:00:21,000
Speaker 2: you know, And let's just face that fat point.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I don't think that's certainly not put Let's

1306
01:00:23,000 --> 01:00:26,040
Speaker 4: not put that on Josh. Let's not give him, let's

1307
01:00:26,080 --> 01:00:28,440
Speaker 4: not putting the way on him. And that's not fun.

1308
01:00:28,560 --> 01:00:31,080
Speaker 5: Like the NFL is worse when we lose some of

1309
01:00:31,120 --> 01:00:33,040
Speaker 5: the some of the big players. So we certainly want

1310
01:00:33,040 --> 01:00:35,640
Speaker 5: to see Josh Allen play. But yeah, that's a big

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Speaker 5: part of it. How can this team navigate that, How

1312
01:00:39,400 --> 01:00:44,280
Speaker 5: can they survive it? How can they navigate those circumstances

1313
01:00:44,320 --> 01:00:46,240
Speaker 5: like the tough terrain. They got to get Josh Allen

1314
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Speaker 5: to play at the MVP level in the postseason, but

1315
01:00:48,360 --> 01:00:51,440
Speaker 5: they need a supporting cast to also step up. So

1316
01:00:51,600 --> 01:00:54,600
Speaker 5: Keyank Coleman in the second year as their Marque white Out,

1317
01:00:54,640 --> 01:00:57,680
Speaker 5: he's going to step up. They paid shoot Khalier Sucre.

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01:00:57,920 --> 01:01:00,640
Speaker 5: They want him to continue to play at a high level. Look,

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01:01:00,680 --> 01:01:03,000
Speaker 5: putting all those things to better, but playing your best

1320
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Speaker 5: down the stretch. That's what the Buffalo Bill said the folks,

1321
01:01:06,040 --> 01:01:08,560
Speaker 5: So can we play our best football in the month

1322
01:01:08,560 --> 01:01:09,440
Speaker 5: of January.

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Speaker 2: You know, as much as success they've had, not only

1324
01:01:12,760 --> 01:01:14,760
Speaker 2: the last several years, but really throughout their career, because

1325
01:01:14,760 --> 01:01:17,120
Speaker 2: they've been very competitive, even when Marv Leda was there

1326
01:01:17,120 --> 01:01:20,880
Speaker 2: for consecutive Super Bowls, they still have not had a

1327
01:01:21,000 --> 01:01:23,600
Speaker 2: Lombardi Trophy. Think about that, like the kiss of death.

1328
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Speaker 2: And people talk about the Buffalo Bills, and you know

1329
01:01:26,120 --> 01:01:28,680
Speaker 2: how great they are, they haven't done it, you know,

1330
01:01:28,880 --> 01:01:30,760
Speaker 2: And they talk about Lamar Jackson.

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Speaker 3: I mean, can't do it on the big stage.

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01:01:32,360 --> 01:01:34,600
Speaker 2: No, it's the Buffalo Bills that can't do it on

1333
01:01:34,640 --> 01:01:36,720
Speaker 2: the big stage, not Lamar Jackson.

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Speaker 3: Right, it's the Bills. They got the kiss of death.

1335
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Speaker 4: They do because of Death's that's not great. They haven't

1336
01:01:46,040 --> 01:01:48,240
Speaker 4: been able to get it done. They got to figure

1337
01:01:48,240 --> 01:01:48,520
Speaker 4: it out.

1338
01:01:48,680 --> 01:01:53,200
Speaker 5: But you know that's this is why you see the

1339
01:01:53,320 --> 01:01:56,200
Speaker 5: tears and all of that when teams finally win the championship,

1340
01:01:56,680 --> 01:01:58,480
Speaker 5: because you have to go through some things. And the

1341
01:01:58,480 --> 01:02:01,680
Speaker 5: Buffalo Bills are in the of going through their things

1342
01:02:01,680 --> 01:02:03,200
Speaker 5: trying to earn their right.

1343
01:02:04,600 --> 01:02:06,240
Speaker 4: To be a championship squad.

1344
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Speaker 3: No doubt about that. He's Bucky Brooks. I'm Andy for

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Speaker 3: a minute.

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Speaker 2: rn A, this hour and the Blame Game and Hour

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01:02:47,960 --> 01:02:50,000
Speaker 2: number three. But this is the end of an era

1361
01:02:50,480 --> 01:02:53,440
Speaker 2: for one team. We'll tell you all about it next.

1362
01:02:54,040 --> 01:02:57,160
Speaker 2: Why did they do this? That's right around the corner,

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01:02:57,320 --> 01:02:59,800
Speaker 2: we've crossed the fifty online will we call Fox Sports

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01:03:01,200 --> 01:03:02,520
Speaker 3: He is Bucky Brooks.

1366
01:03:02,560 --> 01:03:04,200
Speaker 2: I'm Andy Ferman of Well Live from the Fox Sports

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01:03:04,280 --> 01:03:04,880
Speaker 2: Radio studios.

1368
01:03:04,880 --> 01:03:06,200
Speaker 3: And by the way, be sure.

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01:03:06,040 --> 01:03:09,680
Speaker 2: To check out the Fox Sports Radio YouTube channel. There's

1370
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Speaker 2: a ton of great videos from many of a Fox

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01:03:23,480 --> 01:03:26,640
Speaker 2: videos on YouTube. Now I gotta ask you this, Why

1376
01:03:26,640 --> 01:03:28,880
Speaker 2: do they do this? Is this what the New York

1377
01:03:28,960 --> 01:03:32,480
Speaker 2: Knicks waited for? Mike Brown? Not official yet, not official,

1378
01:03:32,520 --> 01:03:34,920
Speaker 2: but it's the only guy that the Knicks have interviewed twice.

1379
01:03:35,360 --> 01:03:37,640
Speaker 2: It looks like Mike Brown's gonna get the job, you know,

1380
01:03:37,800 --> 01:03:40,080
Speaker 2: if he was so successful, he wouldn't be on the

1381
01:03:40,120 --> 01:03:42,320
Speaker 2: beach looking for a job. All right, That's all I

1382
01:03:42,360 --> 01:03:44,760
Speaker 2: gotta say. I'm not happy that Tim's got the acts.

1383
01:03:44,960 --> 01:03:47,200
Speaker 2: I thought it was bad. It's a bad move. It's

1384
01:03:47,240 --> 01:03:49,840
Speaker 2: a bad out after it really is. I mean, he

1385
01:03:49,920 --> 01:03:52,240
Speaker 2: did a hell of a job for that team. This guy,

1386
01:03:52,360 --> 01:03:55,640
Speaker 2: Mike Brown, five teams, two time coach of the Year.

1387
01:03:55,960 --> 01:03:57,880
Speaker 2: You know, how does a two time coaching year get

1388
01:03:57,880 --> 01:04:00,960
Speaker 2: bumped to the curb? Really, I don't get it. I

1389
01:04:01,200 --> 01:04:05,000
Speaker 2: understand it. Four time champion as a top assistant in

1390
01:04:05,080 --> 01:04:06,640
Speaker 2: Golden State and San Antonio.

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Speaker 3: I get it.

1392
01:04:07,400 --> 01:04:10,240
Speaker 2: He has a plus five hundred record of the NBA

1393
01:04:10,320 --> 01:04:13,000
Speaker 2: of four hundred and fifty wins. But look when you

1394
01:04:13,080 --> 01:04:15,320
Speaker 2: have to look as his resume and they say who

1395
01:04:15,360 --> 01:04:18,680
Speaker 2: he coached, that doesn't impress me. Don't tell me what

1396
01:04:18,720 --> 01:04:21,440
Speaker 2: he did, not who he coached. He coached Curry and

1397
01:04:21,520 --> 01:04:25,440
Speaker 2: Green and Thompson and Tim Duncan. I'm an Joebilee an,

1398
01:04:25,480 --> 01:04:29,200
Speaker 2: Tony Parker and Lebron and Kobe. That's great, all right,

1399
01:04:29,280 --> 01:04:31,439
Speaker 2: tell me what you did, don't tell me who you coach.

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01:04:31,640 --> 01:04:34,120
Speaker 2: I want Tims back, That's all I'm saying. I'm not

1401
01:04:34,160 --> 01:04:35,080
Speaker 2: happy with this move.

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01:04:36,320 --> 01:04:38,080
Speaker 5: Well, look, I think it's the best that they possibly

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01:04:38,120 --> 01:04:41,680
Speaker 5: could do given the circumstances of how they bungled the

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01:04:41,760 --> 01:04:45,160
Speaker 5: coaching search right. So, normally, if you're a team that

1405
01:04:45,240 --> 01:04:47,280
Speaker 5: is going to move on from a Tom Thibodeaux, you

1406
01:04:47,280 --> 01:04:51,480
Speaker 5: should have a better option waiting. And it appears that

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01:04:51,520 --> 01:04:53,920
Speaker 5: it wasn't a well fought out plan for the New

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01:04:54,000 --> 01:04:56,320
Speaker 5: York Knicks. But I think Mike Brown has the potential

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01:04:56,400 --> 01:04:59,280
Speaker 5: to save them. Not saying that he's a better coach

1410
01:04:59,360 --> 01:05:02,200
Speaker 5: than Tips, but maybe he can unlock a different part

1411
01:05:02,240 --> 01:05:03,440
Speaker 5: of the team in.

1412
01:05:03,400 --> 01:05:05,680
Speaker 4: New York than Tibbs unlocked.

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01:05:05,960 --> 01:05:07,560
Speaker 5: When I think about Tibbs and I think about the

1414
01:05:07,640 --> 01:05:09,760
Speaker 5: Knicks under him, I think about how hard they played,

1415
01:05:09,760 --> 01:05:13,360
Speaker 5: how long they played, how they were more defensive oriented

1416
01:05:13,440 --> 01:05:16,400
Speaker 5: than offensive oriented, and look at worked well for them.

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Speaker 5: They got to the conference finals four out of five times.

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01:05:18,960 --> 01:05:21,920
Speaker 5: I think they qualified for the playoffs. He had a

1419
01:05:22,040 --> 01:05:25,080
Speaker 5: very very successful run in New York. If this team

1420
01:05:25,200 --> 01:05:27,520
Speaker 5: is going to get over the top, though, what you're

1421
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Speaker 5: saying is maybe Mike Brown can tap into some of

1422
01:05:30,640 --> 01:05:33,720
Speaker 5: the experience and expertise that he gleaned from his time

1423
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Speaker 5: as an assistant with the Spurs and the Warriors as

1424
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Speaker 5: a head coach leading Lebron with the Cavaliers, the Lakers,

1425
01:05:40,680 --> 01:05:43,840
Speaker 5: bringing Sacramento back to prominence. What I would like to

1426
01:05:43,840 --> 01:05:46,919
Speaker 5: see the Knicks do is can they find a better

1427
01:05:46,960 --> 01:05:49,840
Speaker 5: way to make it more team centric on offense than

1428
01:05:49,920 --> 01:05:51,400
Speaker 5: the Jalen Brunston Show.

1429
01:05:51,440 --> 01:05:54,280
Speaker 4: Where it's dribble, dribble, dribble, drible dribble, drible dribble, Jaylen

1430
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Speaker 4: Brunston bail us out.

1431
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Speaker 5: If they can find a way to make the game

1432
01:05:57,360 --> 01:06:01,400
Speaker 5: easy for their best players while maintain the defense and

1433
01:06:01,440 --> 01:06:05,200
Speaker 5: playing with a little faster tempo to match Indiana, maybe

1434
01:06:05,200 --> 01:06:08,560
Speaker 5: they can advance farther. Look big shoes to step into

1435
01:06:08,640 --> 01:06:12,560
Speaker 5: for Mike Brown, but at least you have someone who

1436
01:06:13,240 --> 01:06:15,640
Speaker 5: is near or at the same level as a time

1437
01:06:15,680 --> 01:06:18,200
Speaker 5: tip of though, as opposed to someone that was inexperienced

1438
01:06:18,200 --> 01:06:20,520
Speaker 5: who you didn't know could take their job and to

1439
01:06:20,560 --> 01:06:22,840
Speaker 5: make it a better situation than it was.

1440
01:06:24,200 --> 01:06:26,400
Speaker 2: I love it, you know why, to two of us

1441
01:06:26,440 --> 01:06:32,080
Speaker 2: together like your sanity and I'm emotion so it helps balance.

1442
01:06:32,240 --> 01:06:33,680
Speaker 3: It's like a seesaw. It balances.

1443
01:06:33,880 --> 01:06:36,280
Speaker 2: I get emotional, but you bring it down to earth

1444
01:06:36,320 --> 01:06:37,360
Speaker 2: with sanity.

1445
01:06:37,120 --> 01:06:39,520
Speaker 3: And your normal and I'm not. I admit it. I

1446
01:06:39,560 --> 01:06:39,920
Speaker 3: know I'm not.

1447
01:06:40,200 --> 01:06:42,240
Speaker 2: But here's the thing, here's the question. I'm so happy

1448
01:06:42,360 --> 01:06:45,520
Speaker 2: that you were here with sanity to this situation. I

1449
01:06:45,600 --> 01:06:47,920
Speaker 2: want to know what it's like because you could. You're

1450
01:06:47,960 --> 01:06:49,680
Speaker 2: the only one could answer this question because you played

1451
01:06:49,680 --> 01:06:51,840
Speaker 2: the game. You've been there, done that. What is it

1452
01:06:51,960 --> 01:06:54,080
Speaker 2: like when you're on a team and they can the

1453
01:06:54,120 --> 01:06:56,480
Speaker 2: coach And I think a lot of players know when

1454
01:06:56,520 --> 01:06:58,479
Speaker 2: the coach is going to get canned, when the team

1455
01:06:58,520 --> 01:07:01,000
Speaker 2: isn't losing, it's his full and they say, you know,

1456
01:07:01,480 --> 01:07:03,240
Speaker 2: the talk is in the locker room, we're gonna get

1457
01:07:03,280 --> 01:07:05,400
Speaker 2: a new coach next year, no doubt. I don't think

1458
01:07:05,440 --> 01:07:07,360
Speaker 2: that was the talk in New York with the Knicks.

1459
01:07:07,520 --> 01:07:09,720
Speaker 2: So there's going to be a divide in that locker

1460
01:07:09,800 --> 01:07:12,160
Speaker 2: room in New York saying I wish Tibbs was here

1461
01:07:12,440 --> 01:07:14,840
Speaker 2: or Tibbs didn't do this when Brown comes in there,

1462
01:07:15,040 --> 01:07:17,720
Speaker 2: that's the difference. That's the problem. You were on teams

1463
01:07:17,720 --> 01:07:20,600
Speaker 2: that you knew when the season started, if they started

1464
01:07:20,680 --> 01:07:23,080
Speaker 2: zero to three, two and five, whatever it may be,

1465
01:07:23,240 --> 01:07:24,560
Speaker 2: this is a good chance he's not going to be

1466
01:07:24,600 --> 01:07:27,320
Speaker 2: there next year. So and you probably were relieved, you

1467
01:07:27,360 --> 01:07:29,480
Speaker 2: want to see the guy go. All right, I don't

1468
01:07:29,480 --> 01:07:31,600
Speaker 2: think the guys on the Knicks wanted to see Tibbs go.

1469
01:07:32,880 --> 01:07:37,760
Speaker 5: Uh, not everyone, but some people obviously did because when

1470
01:07:37,800 --> 01:07:40,200
Speaker 5: they talk about the exit meetings and those things and

1471
01:07:40,640 --> 01:07:43,040
Speaker 5: how it played out, maybe there were some people that

1472
01:07:43,160 --> 01:07:45,320
Speaker 5: wanted to see him up out of there.

1473
01:07:45,600 --> 01:07:46,920
Speaker 4: But I don't know.

1474
01:07:47,000 --> 01:07:50,720
Speaker 5: Look, it's a very difficult situation when it comes to

1475
01:07:51,320 --> 01:07:54,280
Speaker 5: like Tom Tiberdeaux and why they decided to move on

1476
01:07:54,440 --> 01:07:56,720
Speaker 5: from him. But now that you've moved on for him,

1477
01:07:56,760 --> 01:07:58,280
Speaker 5: you made the commitment. What you're trying to do is

1478
01:07:58,280 --> 01:08:02,240
Speaker 5: find someone who can take that roster as presently constructed a.

1479
01:08:02,320 --> 01:08:03,440
Speaker 4: Win at a higher level.

1480
01:08:03,720 --> 01:08:06,400
Speaker 5: And maybe they're saying the way to eat squeeze some

1481
01:08:06,440 --> 01:08:09,320
Speaker 5: more wins out or to up to any when it

1482
01:08:09,360 --> 01:08:13,320
Speaker 5: comes to the offensive effort, also to up to Annie

1483
01:08:13,360 --> 01:08:16,519
Speaker 5: when it comes to playing more people. Normally, when you

1484
01:08:16,600 --> 01:08:20,479
Speaker 5: fire somebody, it's like relationships, like when you break up

1485
01:08:20,960 --> 01:08:24,720
Speaker 5: with one girlfriend, the next girlfriend is typically opposite than

1486
01:08:24,760 --> 01:08:26,240
Speaker 5: the one that you just broke up with.

1487
01:08:26,760 --> 01:08:28,839
Speaker 4: So the Knicks have gone for the opposite.

1488
01:08:28,840 --> 01:08:31,120
Speaker 5: They went from a defensive minded coach to an offensive

1489
01:08:31,160 --> 01:08:34,240
Speaker 5: minded coach, from a coach who only wanted to play

1490
01:08:34,400 --> 01:08:37,040
Speaker 5: a handful of players to someone who's coming from a

1491
01:08:37,040 --> 01:08:39,679
Speaker 5: situation where they played a ton of players, like Golden

1492
01:08:39,680 --> 01:08:42,160
Speaker 5: State and Sacramento. So instead of going from a six

1493
01:08:42,240 --> 01:08:44,519
Speaker 5: to seven man rotation, maybe to go ten to twelve.

1494
01:08:45,400 --> 01:08:48,640
Speaker 5: A lot of this is copycat and what was successful

1495
01:08:48,720 --> 01:08:52,679
Speaker 5: this season. Okay, see Indiana one. With depth, they want,

1496
01:08:52,680 --> 01:08:55,439
Speaker 5: with pace, they want with pressure. Maybe the Knicks are

1497
01:08:55,439 --> 01:08:57,320
Speaker 5: going to try and follow into that. But I'm gonna

1498
01:08:57,320 --> 01:08:59,760
Speaker 5: say this, I've never seen the Knicks win when they've

1499
01:08:59,760 --> 01:09:02,360
Speaker 5: been an up tempo team. They've always been at their

1500
01:09:02,400 --> 01:09:06,000
Speaker 5: best when they are grinded out, grimy.

1501
01:09:05,479 --> 01:09:07,360
Speaker 4: Blue collar team that reflects the city.

1502
01:09:07,640 --> 01:09:10,959
Speaker 5: We'll see if the glitz and glamor works on Broadway,

1503
01:09:11,479 --> 01:09:14,240
Speaker 5: but in New York it typically doesn't work like that.

1504
01:09:14,400 --> 01:09:17,160
Speaker 5: They are a walk it up, grind it out. We're

1505
01:09:17,200 --> 01:09:18,840
Speaker 5: tougher than you. That's how we went because we were

1506
01:09:18,840 --> 01:09:19,439
Speaker 5: referend rugged.

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01:09:19,600 --> 01:09:20,400
Speaker 3: You're exactly right.

1508
01:09:20,439 --> 01:09:23,120
Speaker 2: Even when Patino coached the Knicks, they pressed eighty four

1509
01:09:23,200 --> 01:09:26,160
Speaker 2: feet full court and everybody said you can't do that

1510
01:09:26,200 --> 01:09:27,320
Speaker 2: in the NBA, but he did it.

1511
01:09:27,560 --> 01:09:28,639
Speaker 3: He did it with those guys.

1512
01:09:28,840 --> 01:09:31,559
Speaker 2: He made them press full court, press eighty four feet

1513
01:09:31,760 --> 01:09:33,679
Speaker 2: on a nightly basis and it worked.

1514
01:09:33,720 --> 01:09:36,240
Speaker 3: They won. Patino won when he coached the Knicks.

1515
01:09:36,400 --> 01:09:39,360
Speaker 2: You know, his college coaching he brought to the NBA

1516
01:09:39,360 --> 01:09:42,200
Speaker 2: and it worked all right. And Timms, I'm not saying

1517
01:09:42,200 --> 01:09:45,080
Speaker 2: he full court pressed, but he was a tough, defensive

1518
01:09:45,120 --> 01:09:45,760
Speaker 2: minded coach.

1519
01:09:46,000 --> 01:09:47,519
Speaker 3: I don't know if Mike Brown's going to do that,

1520
01:09:47,720 --> 01:09:48,200
Speaker 3: and we'll see.

1521
01:09:48,200 --> 01:09:50,439
Speaker 2: I hope he wins. You know, I love the Knicks,

1522
01:09:50,479 --> 01:09:52,240
Speaker 2: I really do. I grew up with the Knicks. But

1523
01:09:52,600 --> 01:09:54,559
Speaker 2: I just don't think it was the right move. And

1524
01:09:54,600 --> 01:09:56,640
Speaker 2: I think, and you know what, I don't like the

1525
01:09:56,720 --> 01:09:59,760
Speaker 2: idea that there was no one that came forth.

1526
01:09:59,520 --> 01:10:01,800
Speaker 3: This Leon Rose, who is an agent now he's a

1527
01:10:01,840 --> 01:10:02,519
Speaker 3: general manager.

1528
01:10:02,800 --> 01:10:05,559
Speaker 2: Show your face, talk to the press, talk to the

1529
01:10:05,840 --> 01:10:07,960
Speaker 2: I want to know why you fired TIBs. I want

1530
01:10:07,960 --> 01:10:09,599
Speaker 2: to know why if in fact, he would have made

1531
01:10:09,600 --> 01:10:11,400
Speaker 2: it to the finals, if he would have been fired,

1532
01:10:11,400 --> 01:10:13,000
Speaker 2: then too, you tell us.

1533
01:10:13,160 --> 01:10:14,839
Speaker 3: You know, you owe that to the public.

1534
01:10:15,000 --> 01:10:17,040
Speaker 2: You ww it to at least your fans who pay

1535
01:10:17,080 --> 01:10:19,040
Speaker 2: for tickets and go on a nightly basis. I think

1536
01:10:19,080 --> 01:10:21,600
Speaker 2: there has to be more more discussion.

1537
01:10:21,720 --> 01:10:22,120
Speaker 3: Back then.

1538
01:10:22,760 --> 01:10:24,880
Speaker 2: You got to be more transparent. You have to be

1539
01:10:25,200 --> 01:10:27,679
Speaker 2: you just can't hide. You can't fire a guy and hide.

1540
01:10:27,720 --> 01:10:29,479
Speaker 2: You got to tell us why you fired him, don't

1541
01:10:29,520 --> 01:10:29,960
Speaker 2: you think?

1542
01:10:31,120 --> 01:10:33,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I think you have to. You know,

1543
01:10:33,120 --> 01:10:34,320
Speaker 4: you have to be able to tell the people.

1544
01:10:34,320 --> 01:10:36,800
Speaker 5: But I think what they would rather do is it's

1545
01:10:36,840 --> 01:10:39,800
Speaker 5: a lot easier to talk about TIBs dismissal when you're

1546
01:10:39,840 --> 01:10:42,440
Speaker 5: trying out a new coach, because now you can deflect

1547
01:10:42,560 --> 01:10:45,640
Speaker 5: those questions and put it on to Mike Brown. You

1548
01:10:45,640 --> 01:10:47,240
Speaker 5: can talk about a TIBs did a great job, just

1549
01:10:47,360 --> 01:10:48,840
Speaker 5: that we're looking to get to the next level and

1550
01:10:48,920 --> 01:10:50,600
Speaker 5: we believe that the new guy we hired here, this

1551
01:10:50,640 --> 01:10:52,639
Speaker 5: guy right here you see beside me, Mike Brown, he's

1552
01:10:52,640 --> 01:10:53,800
Speaker 5: going to take us to the next level.

1553
01:10:53,840 --> 01:10:55,080
Speaker 4: Mike, tell him how you're gonna take us to the

1554
01:10:55,120 --> 01:10:55,679
Speaker 4: next level.

1555
01:10:56,000 --> 01:10:59,799
Speaker 5: It is easier to deflect that way within and instead

1556
01:10:59,800 --> 01:11:02,360
Speaker 5: of me sitting up there a boy myself having to

1557
01:11:02,439 --> 01:11:07,480
Speaker 5: answer the questions from a horde of media that are confused,

1558
01:11:07,640 --> 01:11:09,120
Speaker 5: perplexed why we moved.

1559
01:11:08,960 --> 01:11:11,080
Speaker 4: On for someone to just let us to the conference finals.

1560
01:11:11,280 --> 01:11:12,920
Speaker 3: Look, I get it, I get that.

1561
01:11:13,320 --> 01:11:14,840
Speaker 2: First though, he hasn't been named the coach, and so

1562
01:11:14,960 --> 01:11:16,720
Speaker 2: we're kind of jumping the gun a little bit. But

1563
01:11:16,760 --> 01:11:18,719
Speaker 2: the thing is, I get why Mike Brown will probably

1564
01:11:18,720 --> 01:11:21,040
Speaker 2: accept the number one. There's only thirty jobs here and

1565
01:11:21,080 --> 01:11:23,080
Speaker 2: you want to work. And I think that everybody in

1566
01:11:23,120 --> 01:11:25,400
Speaker 2: their right mind, you know, they'll say, well, why were

1567
01:11:25,439 --> 01:11:27,160
Speaker 2: you going to a prussure cooking like that? Why would

1568
01:11:27,200 --> 01:11:28,679
Speaker 2: you want to coach in New York with the media.

1569
01:11:28,800 --> 01:11:30,679
Speaker 2: Why would you want to coach in a situation where

1570
01:11:30,840 --> 01:11:32,519
Speaker 2: you know, tips took them to the players, to the

1571
01:11:33,120 --> 01:11:34,840
Speaker 2: finals and the ease and they haven't done that in

1572
01:11:34,840 --> 01:11:36,280
Speaker 2: twenty five years and they fired the guy.

1573
01:11:36,520 --> 01:11:37,479
Speaker 3: You know why you do it?

1574
01:11:37,520 --> 01:11:41,040
Speaker 2: A thirty jobs only b you want to work and see,

1575
01:11:41,280 --> 01:11:44,080
Speaker 2: you think you could do what others can't do. Yeah,

1576
01:11:44,160 --> 01:11:45,920
Speaker 2: I mean I think coaches have an ego. That you

1577
01:11:45,960 --> 01:11:47,400
Speaker 2: got to have an ego to coach. I don't think

1578
01:11:47,400 --> 01:11:49,680
Speaker 2: it's a bad thing. See I could do it. He

1579
01:11:49,720 --> 01:11:51,400
Speaker 2: didn't do it. Let me try. I think I could

1580
01:11:51,400 --> 01:11:51,960
Speaker 2: do it better.

1581
01:11:53,080 --> 01:11:55,479
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, that's why, that's why you take those jobs.

1582
01:11:55,920 --> 01:11:59,000
Speaker 5: You take the job because you believe in your soul,

1583
01:11:59,040 --> 01:12:01,280
Speaker 5: you believe that you're coach and that you can take

1584
01:12:01,360 --> 01:12:04,400
Speaker 5: any situation and make it right. That is the arrogance

1585
01:12:04,439 --> 01:12:07,360
Speaker 5: and ego that every coach has. And every good coach

1586
01:12:07,400 --> 01:12:09,840
Speaker 5: has that. Mike Brown feels like he can step in there.

1587
01:12:09,960 --> 01:12:12,439
Speaker 5: He was able to build out a plan. Here's what

1588
01:12:12,479 --> 01:12:14,320
Speaker 5: I would do if you give me this job. Here's

1589
01:12:14,360 --> 01:12:15,559
Speaker 5: how we would take the Knicks to.

1590
01:12:15,520 --> 01:12:16,200
Speaker 4: The next level.

1591
01:12:16,600 --> 01:12:20,400
Speaker 5: And he will lean on all of those previous experiences

1592
01:12:20,439 --> 01:12:23,880
Speaker 5: to help him. And let's be honest, when you begin

1593
01:12:23,960 --> 01:12:26,400
Speaker 5: to think about it, there's no one who has been

1594
01:12:26,720 --> 01:12:30,240
Speaker 5: under the bright lights more than Mike Brown as a coach.

1595
01:12:30,560 --> 01:12:34,400
Speaker 5: He coached Lebron when Lebron was the chosen one and

1596
01:12:34,479 --> 01:12:38,479
Speaker 5: guided that team to the finals. He then went and

1597
01:12:38,520 --> 01:12:42,600
Speaker 5: coached in LA which is a very difficult situation to

1598
01:12:42,720 --> 01:12:45,479
Speaker 5: step into, but he did. And look, it didn't go

1599
01:12:45,560 --> 01:12:48,519
Speaker 5: the way that he wanted. But he's been on a

1600
01:12:48,560 --> 01:12:50,920
Speaker 5: pedestal in a big stage. Took a step back in

1601
01:12:50,960 --> 01:12:53,600
Speaker 5: Golden State, but watched how Steve Kerr handled that, and

1602
01:12:53,600 --> 01:12:56,240
Speaker 5: then he went to Sacramento and did the impossible. He

1603
01:12:56,280 --> 01:12:58,200
Speaker 5: had that team playing at a high level. And I

1604
01:12:58,240 --> 01:13:00,880
Speaker 5: will say this, and I bet you they're people and

1605
01:13:01,120 --> 01:13:03,960
Speaker 5: Sacramento that rude the day that he was fired because

1606
01:13:03,960 --> 01:13:06,280
Speaker 5: of the job that he did with that team. So

1607
01:13:06,439 --> 01:13:09,559
Speaker 5: he's prepared to step in this pressure cooker. That is

1608
01:13:09,680 --> 01:13:12,719
Speaker 5: New York because in New York it's finals or bust.

1609
01:13:13,160 --> 01:13:17,040
Speaker 5: With this team, he understands it. He's been in that situation.

1610
01:13:17,439 --> 01:13:20,719
Speaker 5: He's dealt with pressure as a coach. So I don't

1611
01:13:20,720 --> 01:13:23,920
Speaker 5: know outside of Mike Malone, I don't know if you

1612
01:13:23,920 --> 01:13:25,960
Speaker 5: could have found a better candidate. But Mike Malone is

1613
01:13:25,960 --> 01:13:28,639
Speaker 5: too similar to Tom Thibodeau to get the job right.

1614
01:13:28,960 --> 01:13:30,559
Speaker 3: And I feel Malone will get a job because he's

1615
01:13:30,560 --> 01:13:31,200
Speaker 3: a New York guy.

1616
01:13:31,520 --> 01:13:34,320
Speaker 5: I mean, I definitely, but they're too they're too similar,

1617
01:13:34,400 --> 01:13:37,200
Speaker 5: Like I'm not saying they're wanting the same, but they're close.

1618
01:13:37,800 --> 01:13:41,519
Speaker 5: They're like cousins ornery, gonna get after it, this and that.

1619
01:13:41,600 --> 01:13:43,719
Speaker 4: And I love Mike Malone. I think Mike malonea is great,

1620
01:13:44,320 --> 01:13:44,840
Speaker 4: But I.

1621
01:13:44,760 --> 01:13:47,479
Speaker 3: Can see Brendan was the hell of a coach too.

1622
01:13:47,600 --> 01:13:51,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I can see why they're like a little

1623
01:13:51,240 --> 01:13:52,760
Speaker 5: too close to what we just had.

1624
01:13:53,560 --> 01:13:55,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, hey, he what you're saying.

1625
01:13:55,760 --> 01:13:58,280
Speaker 2: And last, but not leaves, speaking of the NBA, what

1626
01:13:58,320 --> 01:14:00,840
Speaker 2: about Miles Turner leaving the Paces to go to the

1627
01:14:00,880 --> 01:14:03,560
Speaker 2: Milwaukee Bucks. I get it, four years, one hundred and

1628
01:14:03,600 --> 01:14:06,720
Speaker 2: seven mil. But still, you know you're on a team, right,

1629
01:14:06,760 --> 01:14:09,800
Speaker 2: there that was this close see my fingers right now,

1630
01:14:10,120 --> 01:14:12,720
Speaker 2: this close to winning at all, and you leave that.

1631
01:14:12,760 --> 01:14:15,640
Speaker 2: I just don't understand it. And then you know the

1632
01:14:15,720 --> 01:14:20,520
Speaker 2: Bucks waiving Damian Lillard. I mean, this guy, it's unbelievable.

1633
01:14:20,520 --> 01:14:22,760
Speaker 2: He's gonna get what one hundred and thirteen million dollars

1634
01:14:22,840 --> 01:14:25,920
Speaker 2: not to work to rehab. It's been a good deal

1635
01:14:25,960 --> 01:14:28,160
Speaker 2: for him when you think about it. One hundred and

1636
01:14:28,200 --> 01:14:31,680
Speaker 2: thirteen mil owed to him in the final two years. Unbelievab.

1637
01:14:31,680 --> 01:14:34,120
Speaker 2: I mean the money that is thrown around in the NBA.

1638
01:14:34,320 --> 01:14:37,680
Speaker 2: They talk about football, the NFL. These guys making a

1639
01:14:37,720 --> 01:14:40,360
Speaker 2: big money. I mean, you know quarterbacks. No, it's the

1640
01:14:40,479 --> 01:14:43,719
Speaker 2: NBA that's making the money. Think about that. The NBA

1641
01:14:43,840 --> 01:14:46,640
Speaker 2: makes big money. These guys are busting their heads in

1642
01:14:46,680 --> 01:14:49,759
Speaker 2: the NFL. They deserve every dime they get. And people

1643
01:14:49,760 --> 01:14:52,519
Speaker 2: are going to see these quarterbacks play. So pay those guys.

1644
01:14:52,600 --> 01:14:55,160
Speaker 2: That's the name of the game. But Miles Turner, No

1645
01:14:55,200 --> 01:14:57,360
Speaker 2: one's buying a ticket to see Miles Turner play. Blieve

1646
01:14:57,439 --> 01:14:59,479
Speaker 2: me for one hundred and seven mil. I don't think so.

1647
01:15:00,840 --> 01:15:04,200
Speaker 5: No, So you accomplished a few different things in doing

1648
01:15:04,200 --> 01:15:08,400
Speaker 5: this bitter rival. You strengthen your team and weakend your

1649
01:15:08,400 --> 01:15:13,120
Speaker 5: biggest opponent. The Pacers, Miles Turner was a significant part

1650
01:15:13,160 --> 01:15:16,160
Speaker 5: of their run and now without Halliburton for most of

1651
01:15:16,160 --> 01:15:18,800
Speaker 5: the season and Miles Turner, this team is not the

1652
01:15:18,880 --> 01:15:21,320
Speaker 5: same team that made its way to the finals.

1653
01:15:21,360 --> 01:15:24,439
Speaker 4: So that's the win in your favor. For your team.

1654
01:15:24,560 --> 01:15:28,559
Speaker 5: You get a stretch, a big who can shoot from range,

1655
01:15:29,360 --> 01:15:33,800
Speaker 5: a rent protector, someone to put around Giannis as you're

1656
01:15:33,920 --> 01:15:36,720
Speaker 5: changing the game. Remember Doc Rivers kind of shaping this

1657
01:15:36,840 --> 01:15:39,240
Speaker 5: roster and this team into the image that he had

1658
01:15:39,320 --> 01:15:42,559
Speaker 5: for how a championship team ship play. And even though

1659
01:15:42,640 --> 01:15:45,479
Speaker 5: people talk about playing faster and with pace and those things,

1660
01:15:45,520 --> 01:15:47,680
Speaker 5: doc Rivers won a specific way when he was with

1661
01:15:47,760 --> 01:15:51,080
Speaker 5: the Celtics. When you're backed into a corner, you try

1662
01:15:51,120 --> 01:15:54,439
Speaker 5: and recreate the success that you've had. You go back

1663
01:15:54,479 --> 01:15:56,479
Speaker 5: to those old tactics and schemes and you try and

1664
01:15:56,479 --> 01:15:58,800
Speaker 5: plug and play players that can give you something that's

1665
01:15:58,800 --> 01:16:01,920
Speaker 5: familiar to you. That's what the Millionwaukee Bucks are doing.

1666
01:16:01,960 --> 01:16:05,160
Speaker 5: And even though the price is significant, hefty price tag

1667
01:16:05,280 --> 01:16:08,000
Speaker 5: over one hundred million dollars for Miles Turner, doc Rivers

1668
01:16:08,040 --> 01:16:10,719
Speaker 5: certainly believes that he can take that team as constructed

1669
01:16:10,760 --> 01:16:12,599
Speaker 5: with Giannis and Turner and some of the other.

1670
01:16:12,479 --> 01:16:15,439
Speaker 4: Guys and have success. And look, it's.

1671
01:16:15,320 --> 01:16:17,000
Speaker 5: Unfortunate with Dame Liver because it was a big deal

1672
01:16:17,040 --> 01:16:19,000
Speaker 5: when they traded for Dame Lowid. But yes, when he

1673
01:16:19,080 --> 01:16:22,640
Speaker 5: popped the Achilles, you knew, man, it was short. It

1674
01:16:22,680 --> 01:16:26,280
Speaker 5: was Look, it wasn't gonna be long for him in Milwaukee.

1675
01:16:26,479 --> 01:16:28,960
Speaker 5: Hats off to him. One hundred million dollars to step

1676
01:16:29,000 --> 01:16:33,040
Speaker 5: away from that team fully, rehab and go somewhere else. Man,

1677
01:16:33,120 --> 01:16:36,200
Speaker 5: that's that's the early Christmas present for that Dame.

1678
01:16:36,280 --> 01:16:38,479
Speaker 3: Look, I would pop my achilles to get a hundred

1679
01:16:38,479 --> 01:16:39,200
Speaker 3: million dollars.

1680
01:16:39,600 --> 01:16:41,960
Speaker 4: Really, yeah, I would do it. I can't say that

1681
01:16:42,000 --> 01:16:43,559
Speaker 4: would pop my I'd like one.

1682
01:16:43,560 --> 01:16:46,120
Speaker 5: Hundred million dollars. I mean, I would certainly consider it.

1683
01:16:46,640 --> 01:16:49,400
Speaker 5: That's the pain and rehab that would be tough.

1684
01:16:49,960 --> 01:16:52,080
Speaker 2: He was just saying, he's Bucky Brooks on Mady from it.

1685
01:16:52,160 --> 01:16:54,559
Speaker 2: By the way, this is Fox Sports Sunday on Fox Sports.

1686
01:16:54,600 --> 01:16:57,720
Speaker 2: Ready and we've reached the crossroads, yay or may and

1687
01:16:57,760 --> 01:17:01,160
Speaker 2: it's next all right, it's that time. Yeah, you and

1688
01:17:01,240 --> 01:17:03,800
Speaker 2: Na coming right up. Nine minutes before the top of

1689
01:17:03,800 --> 01:17:05,760
Speaker 2: the hour. He's Bucky Brooks at many Firman and we

1690
01:17:05,800 --> 01:17:09,240
Speaker 2: are Fox Sports Sunday on Fox Books Radio Live on

1691
01:17:09,280 --> 01:17:10,479
Speaker 2: the Fox Sports Radio Studio.

1692
01:17:10,560 --> 01:17:13,080
Speaker 3: So the little dumper taken away?

1693
01:17:13,320 --> 01:17:17,720
Speaker 1: Okay, let's figure rack those brains, gentlemen, these stories eight

1694
01:17:17,800 --> 01:17:21,639
Speaker 1: it is I think this day.

1695
01:17:22,880 --> 01:17:24,519
Speaker 3: All right, little dumper? Do you have one?

1696
01:17:25,000 --> 01:17:28,479
Speaker 9: I do have one? Andy and Bucky. So it's actually

1697
01:17:28,560 --> 01:17:31,519
Speaker 9: topical on this. It's fourth of July related. So yeah

1698
01:17:31,600 --> 01:17:35,800
Speaker 9: or nay on this one, guys? Is the Nathan Hotdogs,

1699
01:17:35,920 --> 01:17:38,800
Speaker 9: uh you know the hot dog eating contest? Yeah or

1700
01:17:38,880 --> 01:17:42,240
Speaker 9: nay on it being absolutely discussing and unwatchable.

1701
01:17:42,320 --> 01:17:43,400
Speaker 3: So is that a yeay or nay?

1702
01:17:43,439 --> 01:17:44,160
Speaker 4: Andy Furman?

1703
01:17:44,400 --> 01:17:46,640
Speaker 2: It is totally disgusting because I wanted to stick my

1704
01:17:46,680 --> 01:17:48,439
Speaker 2: hand down my throat when I watched it the other day.

1705
01:17:48,479 --> 01:17:50,719
Speaker 3: How do you shove that stuff down your throat so quickly?

1706
01:17:50,920 --> 01:17:53,040
Speaker 2: As I mentioned early on the Buck, I had two

1707
01:17:53,080 --> 01:17:55,040
Speaker 2: hot dogs the other day of July fourth, I was full.

1708
01:17:55,200 --> 01:17:57,640
Speaker 2: I mean, these guys shoving it in there, it's disgusting.

1709
01:17:57,680 --> 01:18:00,360
Speaker 2: It's it's in human, it really is. They should put

1710
01:18:00,400 --> 01:18:00,960
Speaker 2: that on TV.

1711
01:18:02,080 --> 01:18:02,759
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's gross.

1712
01:18:03,000 --> 01:18:05,320
Speaker 5: I mean not even just you talk about like that

1713
01:18:05,320 --> 01:18:08,320
Speaker 5: part of it, just them dipping it in water and

1714
01:18:08,439 --> 01:18:11,080
Speaker 5: buns and just all of it is gross. It just

1715
01:18:11,640 --> 01:18:13,920
Speaker 5: reminds me of a drunken stupor that you would have

1716
01:18:13,920 --> 01:18:15,240
Speaker 5: when you're eighteen two.

1717
01:18:16,040 --> 01:18:17,600
Speaker 4: Not something you should do if you're a grown up.

1718
01:18:17,600 --> 01:18:18,759
Speaker 4: So yeah, okay, don't.

1719
01:18:18,560 --> 01:18:20,080
Speaker 2: Get personal with me. I know you've seen me in

1720
01:18:20,080 --> 01:18:25,280
Speaker 2: those situations. Don't just keep it quiet. That's between us.

1721
01:18:26,920 --> 01:18:29,320
Speaker 9: Or we're all in an agreement then, because I also

1722
01:18:29,360 --> 01:18:32,479
Speaker 9: find it absolutely disgusting, So let's go. So we're all

1723
01:18:32,479 --> 01:18:33,760
Speaker 9: with the naise on it.

1724
01:18:33,880 --> 01:18:36,160
Speaker 3: People find you disgusting, it's.

1725
01:18:35,920 --> 01:18:38,519
Speaker 4: Oh come on, I'm a little dumber, Come.

1726
01:18:38,320 --> 01:18:42,760
Speaker 2: On, alright, alright, we got another one.

1727
01:18:43,160 --> 01:18:44,599
Speaker 3: Well, moving on.

1728
01:18:44,960 --> 01:18:49,240
Speaker 9: So Clayton Kershaw just recorded his three thousand strikeout. Is

1729
01:18:49,240 --> 01:18:52,080
Speaker 9: that more impressive than three hundred career wins?

1730
01:18:52,160 --> 01:18:53,840
Speaker 4: Yeah? Or nay, Bucky Brooks.

1731
01:18:54,360 --> 01:18:56,840
Speaker 5: I would say three hundred wins more impressive. So no,

1732
01:18:56,920 --> 01:18:58,439
Speaker 5: it's not more impressive, but it is.

1733
01:18:58,840 --> 01:19:00,679
Speaker 4: I'll saw their feet. The dessert is recognition.

1734
01:19:00,760 --> 01:19:04,479
Speaker 5: To strike out three thousand batters, man, it says something

1735
01:19:04,479 --> 01:19:07,720
Speaker 5: about your longevity, your consistency, and the overall stuff that

1736
01:19:07,760 --> 01:19:09,639
Speaker 5: you bring to the mound every time you stump out

1737
01:19:09,680 --> 01:19:10,080
Speaker 5: onto it.

1738
01:19:10,680 --> 01:19:12,799
Speaker 2: I say the three thousand strike CAUs is more important

1739
01:19:12,800 --> 01:19:14,680
Speaker 2: than three hundred wins and more impressive. You know why it

1740
01:19:14,680 --> 01:19:17,400
Speaker 2: goes to three hundred crew wins. You have a team

1741
01:19:17,520 --> 01:19:19,920
Speaker 2: effort on that. This is an individual effort, and the

1742
01:19:19,960 --> 01:19:22,280
Speaker 2: three hundred wins. You could pitch five and a half innings,

1743
01:19:22,320 --> 01:19:25,000
Speaker 2: six innings and get a win thanks to relievers and

1744
01:19:25,080 --> 01:19:27,800
Speaker 2: whatever it may be. Three thousand strike calls. That's one

1745
01:19:28,000 --> 01:19:29,719
Speaker 2: hell of a record.

1746
01:19:30,320 --> 01:19:33,559
Speaker 9: All right, Well we're gonna move on over to WNBA.

1747
01:19:33,680 --> 01:19:37,680
Speaker 9: So WNBA expands to Detroit, Philly, and Cleveland.

1748
01:19:38,200 --> 01:19:39,439
Speaker 4: So is that too much?

1749
01:19:39,479 --> 01:19:40,000
Speaker 9: Too soon?

1750
01:19:40,120 --> 01:19:40,320
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1751
01:19:40,520 --> 01:19:43,240
Speaker 3: Nay, Andy, I say, yeah, calm down.

1752
01:19:44,040 --> 01:19:45,920
Speaker 2: I know I think the first one is gonna be

1753
01:19:45,960 --> 01:19:48,800
Speaker 2: what Philly? Maybe they're gonna wait, not all the three

1754
01:19:48,840 --> 01:19:50,720
Speaker 2: on one shot, but just wait a little bit, and

1755
01:19:50,760 --> 01:19:52,400
Speaker 2: you know what, we're gonna get into this next hour.

1756
01:19:52,439 --> 01:19:54,439
Speaker 2: But you know they could have picked some better cities

1757
01:19:54,439 --> 01:19:59,400
Speaker 2: than these hell holes. Really, I mean, come up, really? Yeah,

1758
01:20:00,439 --> 01:20:04,640
Speaker 2: I'm the OPHI cutting him. I love you, Sophie cutting him.

1759
01:20:04,680 --> 01:20:06,759
Speaker 2: You all right, we'll get into what you have to say. Really,

1760
01:20:07,160 --> 01:20:10,920
Speaker 2: hell ho, the bit of America?

1761
01:20:11,000 --> 01:20:11,640
Speaker 3: You kidding me?

1762
01:20:11,760 --> 01:20:12,880
Speaker 4: Gee? Oh?

1763
01:20:13,040 --> 01:20:16,280
Speaker 5: My best Like Sophie Cunningham there she needs to read

1764
01:20:16,360 --> 01:20:18,400
Speaker 5: upon her history in the sand, that those cities were

1765
01:20:18,439 --> 01:20:20,920
Speaker 5: in existance before the fever were You got to make

1766
01:20:20,960 --> 01:20:23,920
Speaker 5: sure you respect that, but not hill holes. I actually

1767
01:20:23,960 --> 01:20:26,000
Speaker 5: like the fact that they're there. They have solid fan bases,

1768
01:20:26,040 --> 01:20:26,679
Speaker 5: a lot of respect.

1769
01:20:27,680 --> 01:20:31,120
Speaker 2: Not real All right, uh oh, we're moving on. Okay,

1770
01:20:31,160 --> 01:20:33,240
Speaker 2: we're gonna continue talking about the hell holes. Coming up

1771
01:20:33,240 --> 01:20:35,320
Speaker 2: next day with us. I'm Fox Sports Radio.

1772
01:20:37,960 --> 01:20:38,320
Speaker 1: All right.

1773
01:20:38,360 --> 01:20:41,320
Speaker 2: Two topics, not one, but two topics made her famous.

1774
01:20:41,400 --> 01:20:43,719
Speaker 2: We'll get to that in just about a minute. Good morning, everybody,

1775
01:20:43,760 --> 01:20:47,160
Speaker 2: Good morning America. This is Fox Sports Sunday on Fox Sports.

1776
01:20:47,240 --> 01:20:47,479
Speaker 4: Ready.

1777
01:20:47,479 --> 01:20:48,360
Speaker 3: He's Bucky Brooks.

1778
01:20:48,680 --> 01:20:50,400
Speaker 2: I'm Indy Firmanent went broke using your life from the

1779
01:20:50,439 --> 01:20:54,240
Speaker 2: Fox Was Radio Studios. Bucky, how's it going? Everything good?

1780
01:20:54,479 --> 01:20:56,439
Speaker 2: You come down from that July fourth high?

1781
01:20:56,520 --> 01:20:56,800
Speaker 1: I bet?

1782
01:20:56,920 --> 01:20:57,920
Speaker 3: Huh pretty good?

1783
01:20:58,040 --> 01:21:01,080
Speaker 4: Huh Yeah, everything is good. I am all done. My

1784
01:21:01,160 --> 01:21:02,000
Speaker 4: ears are clear.

1785
01:21:02,160 --> 01:21:04,840
Speaker 5: After all the fireworks popping for a day and a half,

1786
01:21:04,920 --> 01:21:05,519
Speaker 5: I'm good to go.

1787
01:21:06,160 --> 01:21:08,080
Speaker 2: What's the next time I'm gonna get fireworks? Tell me

1788
01:21:08,120 --> 01:21:10,400
Speaker 2: what is that Labor day that that fire is it

1789
01:21:10,560 --> 01:21:13,960
Speaker 2: just July fourth? Because I can't I can't handle anything.

1790
01:21:14,040 --> 01:21:14,439
Speaker 4: I don't know.

1791
01:21:14,680 --> 01:21:17,560
Speaker 3: It starts July second. It goes to like June thirtieth.

1792
01:21:17,120 --> 01:21:20,439
Speaker 4: The next year, for the next time we have Christmas.

1793
01:21:20,479 --> 01:21:23,240
Speaker 2: Right, you know when I lived in Florida, I think

1794
01:21:23,320 --> 01:21:26,000
Speaker 2: they did. They did shoot a fireworks on Christmas in

1795
01:21:26,040 --> 01:21:26,799
Speaker 2: New Year's Eve.

1796
01:21:27,600 --> 01:21:30,840
Speaker 5: New Year's Yes, I can understand that Labor Days, Laby

1797
01:21:30,920 --> 01:21:32,800
Speaker 5: Day fireworks.

1798
01:21:33,280 --> 01:21:35,360
Speaker 2: They do have a big fireworks show in Cincinnati for

1799
01:21:35,439 --> 01:21:36,360
Speaker 2: Labor Day.

1800
01:21:36,360 --> 01:21:37,559
Speaker 4: Maybe maybe so Labor Day.

1801
01:21:37,640 --> 01:21:39,880
Speaker 5: So you got a reprieve right after all the college

1802
01:21:39,880 --> 01:21:42,040
Speaker 5: football games off, you can go up, you can step

1803
01:21:42,080 --> 01:21:42,600
Speaker 5: outside and.

1804
01:21:42,840 --> 01:21:43,800
Speaker 3: I can take their plugs in.

1805
01:21:43,920 --> 01:21:46,479
Speaker 4: Here some fire yeah, see, here's some fireworks. Here we go.

1806
01:21:46,640 --> 01:21:48,280
Speaker 2: All right, we got so much to cover. I don't

1807
01:21:48,320 --> 01:21:50,679
Speaker 2: like to leave any loose, says. But first it's time

1808
01:21:50,960 --> 01:21:54,559
Speaker 2: for the tire rock play the day, now the.

1809
01:21:54,520 --> 01:21:56,800
Speaker 7: Pitch, So I'm gonna drive in the air the right

1810
01:21:56,880 --> 01:21:59,040
Speaker 7: pretty well, hitch Chu's going back out of the track

1811
01:21:59,080 --> 01:21:59,679
Speaker 7: near the wall.

1812
01:22:00,080 --> 01:22:03,479
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1813
01:22:03,000 --> 01:22:06,920
Speaker 2: For Brandon Nemo, his second Salami in the last week.

1814
01:22:07,080 --> 01:22:09,400
Speaker 3: Come mixer leading by a store.

1815
01:22:09,080 --> 01:22:12,360
Speaker 2: Of Ford and here all right, Brandon Nemo Grand Slam

1816
01:22:12,400 --> 01:22:14,080
Speaker 2: for the Mets on the Mets Radio Network. Start with

1817
01:22:14,120 --> 01:22:16,519
Speaker 2: the Salami because that was the Seattle Marinis radio guy.

1818
01:22:16,560 --> 01:22:18,760
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1825
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Speaker 2: then where we go, my Bucky before we roll on

1826
01:22:38,920 --> 01:22:40,960
Speaker 2: here because I want to talk about the ladies in

1827
01:22:41,000 --> 01:22:44,160
Speaker 2: particular the WNBA list. Tie up some loose ends here

1828
01:22:44,200 --> 01:22:46,120
Speaker 2: with the little dumper, with the A N A. You

1829
01:22:46,160 --> 01:22:47,840
Speaker 2: got a couple of more DA and A questions? You

1830
01:22:47,880 --> 01:22:50,200
Speaker 2: want to little Dumpy? You want to handle him for us?

1831
01:22:50,360 --> 01:22:51,800
Speaker 1: Yeah? I got him for you.

1832
01:22:51,960 --> 01:22:56,160
Speaker 9: So speaking of the WNBA, So, WNBA's age rule is

1833
01:22:56,280 --> 01:22:59,600
Speaker 9: now twenty years old for international players and you have

1834
01:22:59,640 --> 01:23:01,479
Speaker 9: to be twenty two for US players.

1835
01:23:01,880 --> 01:23:04,679
Speaker 1: Yay or nay? Andy Furman, I say nay.

1836
01:23:04,600 --> 01:23:06,560
Speaker 2: Big time, because you're just taking money out of the

1837
01:23:06,600 --> 01:23:10,080
Speaker 2: pockets of these potential players, you know, the the NBA.

1838
01:23:10,160 --> 01:23:12,360
Speaker 2: I need to go round of high school, right, come

1839
01:23:12,400 --> 01:23:14,719
Speaker 2: on low with that number, will you please?

1840
01:23:16,520 --> 01:23:18,280
Speaker 4: No, I don't want to lower the number.

1841
01:23:18,320 --> 01:23:20,519
Speaker 5: And the reason why you talked about the brand, and

1842
01:23:20,640 --> 01:23:23,639
Speaker 5: you talked about how the brand works, particularly in football,

1843
01:23:23,640 --> 01:23:25,880
Speaker 5: where the brand works because you have people that are

1844
01:23:25,920 --> 01:23:28,680
Speaker 5: tied to their colleges longer, so you have an opportunity

1845
01:23:28,720 --> 01:23:31,280
Speaker 5: to build up their brand at a lower level. So

1846
01:23:31,320 --> 01:23:33,880
Speaker 5: for the WNBA to really pop, it's going to be

1847
01:23:33,920 --> 01:23:37,200
Speaker 5: more of the homegrown players establishing a brand and bringing

1848
01:23:37,200 --> 01:23:40,360
Speaker 5: their fans over to the WNBA. They're not as many

1849
01:23:40,360 --> 01:23:44,320
Speaker 5: international players that come over like the NBA, so to me,

1850
01:23:44,520 --> 01:23:45,799
Speaker 5: it makes more sense from.

1851
01:23:45,600 --> 01:23:47,160
Speaker 4: A bigger brand perspective.

1852
01:23:47,720 --> 01:23:50,920
Speaker 5: Make them stay in college, make them grow as homegrown

1853
01:23:51,120 --> 01:23:52,679
Speaker 5: entities before they enter the league.

1854
01:23:53,080 --> 01:23:54,960
Speaker 3: Interesting, and that's why they're doing it? Is that why

1855
01:23:54,960 --> 01:23:55,880
Speaker 3: the rule is that way?

1856
01:23:56,280 --> 01:23:58,960
Speaker 4: I mean like that. I don't know if there's any

1857
01:23:59,120 --> 01:24:00,200
Speaker 4: rationale behind.

1858
01:24:00,000 --> 01:24:01,800
Speaker 5: Any of the rules that they have, but I would

1859
01:24:01,800 --> 01:24:05,040
Speaker 5: think from a business standpoint, it would be more successful

1860
01:24:05,080 --> 01:24:07,679
Speaker 5: if you allow them to grow and full and really

1861
01:24:07,720 --> 01:24:10,160
Speaker 5: thrive at the collegiate level before they make their weight

1862
01:24:11,080 --> 01:24:12,040
Speaker 5: into the WNBA.

1863
01:24:12,280 --> 01:24:15,360
Speaker 2: Little dumper, did you go, mister sanity right there, Bucky Brooks,

1864
01:24:15,360 --> 01:24:16,640
Speaker 2: Little dumpers, A.

1865
01:24:16,680 --> 01:24:19,920
Speaker 5: Little dumper, A little dumper that's not that's not a

1866
01:24:19,960 --> 01:24:21,240
Speaker 5: great that's not a great name.

1867
01:24:21,439 --> 01:24:24,360
Speaker 9: A little Dumper, Well he's he is Christian to me

1868
01:24:24,520 --> 01:24:29,559
Speaker 9: with that name now, so it's gonna stick. Apparently, it's fine,

1869
01:24:29,600 --> 01:24:30,160
Speaker 9: it's funny.

1870
01:24:30,240 --> 01:24:30,800
Speaker 4: You gotta like it.

1871
01:24:31,439 --> 01:24:33,559
Speaker 9: I got one more, the little Dumper is one more

1872
01:24:33,560 --> 01:24:41,160
Speaker 9: in the tank, Wealthy Weld. The w NBA Seattle Storm

1873
01:24:41,600 --> 01:24:45,120
Speaker 9: is set to unveil a Institute of super or statue

1874
01:24:45,200 --> 01:24:49,800
Speaker 9: sorry of super Bird on August seventeenth. Are they just

1875
01:24:49,880 --> 01:24:51,680
Speaker 9: producing too many statues?

1876
01:24:52,200 --> 01:24:52,800
Speaker 3: Yay or nay?

1877
01:24:52,840 --> 01:24:56,360
Speaker 5: Bucky Brooks, No, not at all? Who like you can

1878
01:24:56,400 --> 01:24:58,839
Speaker 5: never have too many statues. Super Bird is a legend,

1879
01:24:58,840 --> 01:25:00,600
Speaker 5: particularly up in the Pacific Northwest.

1880
01:25:00,600 --> 01:25:04,400
Speaker 4: With their Storm team, they won multiple championships in the WNBA.

1881
01:25:04,600 --> 01:25:07,519
Speaker 5: She deserves to get her flowers, and the best way

1882
01:25:07,560 --> 01:25:09,479
Speaker 5: to pass out that bouquet of flowers is to put

1883
01:25:09,479 --> 01:25:11,919
Speaker 5: the flowers in the hands of a statue.

1884
01:25:11,920 --> 01:25:12,680
Speaker 4: So yeah, I love it.

1885
01:25:13,479 --> 01:25:16,719
Speaker 2: Well, you know what, I'd be a hypocrite if I said, yes,

1886
01:25:16,960 --> 01:25:19,400
Speaker 2: there are too many statues, silly because super Bird statue

1887
01:25:19,479 --> 01:25:20,599
Speaker 2: is going to be next to one of the guys

1888
01:25:20,640 --> 01:25:23,519
Speaker 2: I really love, Lenny Wilkins. The last Saturday they put

1889
01:25:23,520 --> 01:25:25,840
Speaker 2: a statue in the same spot was Sue's going to

1890
01:25:25,920 --> 01:25:28,800
Speaker 2: be in August seventeenth of Lenny Wilkins, the kid from

1891
01:25:28,800 --> 01:25:31,120
Speaker 2: Boys High School in Brooklyn, and I spoke to him

1892
01:25:31,160 --> 01:25:33,160
Speaker 2: the other day and if anybody's interested, I wrote about him.

1893
01:25:33,160 --> 01:25:35,920
Speaker 2: Will be in tomorrow's Brooklyn Daily Eagle. But Lenny Eagle.

1894
01:25:36,160 --> 01:25:39,680
Speaker 2: Lenny Wilkins is an institutions. He's been in three Hall

1895
01:25:39,720 --> 01:25:43,120
Speaker 2: of Fames. You've seen Lenny Wilkins play having you buck Really,

1896
01:25:43,360 --> 01:25:47,360
Speaker 2: he's tremendous. What a guy eighty seven years young and

1897
01:25:47,400 --> 01:25:49,040
Speaker 2: he's right there. So they put a statue up there

1898
01:25:49,040 --> 01:25:52,200
Speaker 2: in Seattle last week. So yeah, make the statues, make

1899
01:25:52,240 --> 01:25:54,160
Speaker 2: as many as you can. So I love that. There

1900
01:25:54,200 --> 01:25:56,360
Speaker 2: we go, Thank you all day, Thank you for your time.

1901
01:25:56,400 --> 01:25:57,519
Speaker 2: All right, we move on.

1902
01:25:57,720 --> 01:26:00,080
Speaker 3: We'll talk about the ladies down a WNBA.

1903
01:25:59,680 --> 01:26:03,040
Speaker 2: And and one full swoop if they not one but

1904
01:26:03,080 --> 01:26:07,000
Speaker 2: two incidents. One player, one young lady has become quite popular,

1905
01:26:07,080 --> 01:26:09,479
Speaker 2: although really she upset a lot of people in the process,

1906
01:26:09,640 --> 01:26:12,200
Speaker 2: and her jersey sales are gone through the roof. And

1907
01:26:12,240 --> 01:26:14,320
Speaker 2: by the way, Bucket Brooks, would you purchase a w

1908
01:26:14,479 --> 01:26:16,440
Speaker 2: NBA jersey?

1909
01:26:17,120 --> 01:26:19,639
Speaker 5: I'm more likely to purchase a sweatshirt than a jersey,

1910
01:26:19,680 --> 01:26:23,360
Speaker 5: but I would support the league. I would and if

1911
01:26:23,360 --> 01:26:24,920
Speaker 5: I had to buy a jersey though, But if I

1912
01:26:24,960 --> 01:26:27,160
Speaker 5: had to buy a jersey, I would probably be on

1913
01:26:27,200 --> 01:26:30,639
Speaker 5: the Azi Wilson train more so than anybody else.

1914
01:26:31,160 --> 01:26:32,760
Speaker 2: I think it's rough for a guy to wear a

1915
01:26:33,120 --> 01:26:35,479
Speaker 2: w NBA jersey because it looks like you're stalking them,

1916
01:26:35,520 --> 01:26:35,880
Speaker 2: don't you.

1917
01:26:35,800 --> 01:26:36,640
Speaker 4: Think a little bit it be?

1918
01:26:36,680 --> 01:26:40,320
Speaker 5: It can be a little creepy, especially fifty plus.

1919
01:26:40,360 --> 01:26:42,960
Speaker 3: Like, yeah, I would wear use a team T shirt.

1920
01:26:42,960 --> 01:26:45,320
Speaker 5: I would wear that, Like That's why I'm more likely

1921
01:26:45,360 --> 01:26:47,600
Speaker 5: to wear a hoodie or something like that, so I

1922
01:26:47,600 --> 01:26:50,360
Speaker 5: don't look like the creepy old man that's kind of

1923
01:26:50,760 --> 01:26:52,639
Speaker 5: prowling and waiting to prey upon.

1924
01:26:52,840 --> 01:26:54,400
Speaker 2: Although I am one, but I don't want to. I

1925
01:26:54,400 --> 01:26:55,640
Speaker 2: don't want advertise that I am one.

1926
01:26:55,720 --> 01:26:57,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, I just don't want to put it out for

1927
01:26:57,320 --> 01:26:58,479
Speaker 4: the period.

1928
01:26:58,960 --> 01:27:01,920
Speaker 2: I'm talking about. Sophie Cunningham. She's wonderful, she really is.

1929
01:27:02,160 --> 01:27:04,320
Speaker 2: First thing, she said she would be a bodyguard to

1930
01:27:04,360 --> 01:27:07,000
Speaker 2: protect her team at Caitlyn Clark. I love it. I

1931
01:27:07,040 --> 01:27:10,360
Speaker 2: love it funny so much. But why her Bucky? Where

1932
01:27:10,400 --> 01:27:14,120
Speaker 2: was Eliah Boston? Where was Boston? Where was ab She's

1933
01:27:14,160 --> 01:27:17,200
Speaker 2: our teammate. She could have said, where was Kelsey Mitchell,

1934
01:27:17,400 --> 01:27:19,640
Speaker 2: the kid from Princeton High School in Cincinnati?

1935
01:27:19,760 --> 01:27:20,960
Speaker 3: Why didn't she say anything?

1936
01:27:21,240 --> 01:27:23,160
Speaker 2: Why was there first year player on the team but

1937
01:27:23,200 --> 01:27:25,240
Speaker 2: her name is Sophie Cunningham on the roster.

1938
01:27:25,280 --> 01:27:26,360
Speaker 3: Why does she have to do it?

1939
01:27:26,479 --> 01:27:26,720
Speaker 4: You know?

1940
01:27:27,200 --> 01:27:29,639
Speaker 2: And I don't want to mention skin color here, Please

1941
01:27:29,720 --> 01:27:31,760
Speaker 2: stop me with that. I don't think I hope to

1942
01:27:31,840 --> 01:27:33,920
Speaker 2: goodness had nothing to do with that. But where was

1943
01:27:34,000 --> 01:27:36,479
Speaker 2: Kelsey Mitchell one of my favorites. I watched her play

1944
01:27:36,479 --> 01:27:39,200
Speaker 2: in high school and Elijah Boston come on? Why were

1945
01:27:39,320 --> 01:27:41,559
Speaker 2: they there to defender and come to public and say

1946
01:27:41,600 --> 01:27:42,320
Speaker 2: something about it?

1947
01:27:43,040 --> 01:27:43,240
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1948
01:27:43,280 --> 01:27:44,960
Speaker 5: Well, look, I think you can offend people in so

1949
01:27:44,960 --> 01:27:47,200
Speaker 5: many different ways. Sophie was asked the question and she

1950
01:27:47,320 --> 01:27:49,679
Speaker 5: chose to verbalize her thoughts.

1951
01:27:50,240 --> 01:27:51,840
Speaker 4: We saw Sophie step up.

1952
01:27:52,040 --> 01:27:58,320
Speaker 5: When Caitlyn Clark get into a little little testy interaction

1953
01:27:58,720 --> 01:28:02,080
Speaker 5: with an appollem. Sophie Cuttingham was one of the first

1954
01:28:02,080 --> 01:28:04,280
Speaker 5: ones to come over. But I feel like in a team,

1955
01:28:05,040 --> 01:28:09,000
Speaker 5: all team members would step up and defended to some degree. Yeah,

1956
01:28:09,160 --> 01:28:11,479
Speaker 5: I mean, obviously you want to hear other teammates come

1957
01:28:11,880 --> 01:28:13,880
Speaker 5: but I think it's one of these things like whenever

1958
01:28:13,920 --> 01:28:16,720
Speaker 5: it comes to Kaitlin Clark, it's always loaded, right, Like

1959
01:28:17,080 --> 01:28:20,000
Speaker 5: whatever you say can and will be used against you

1960
01:28:20,280 --> 01:28:21,120
Speaker 5: when it comes to it.

1961
01:28:21,200 --> 01:28:23,240
Speaker 4: So I think you just have to be careful. And

1962
01:28:23,280 --> 01:28:24,599
Speaker 4: I think some people are.

1963
01:28:24,640 --> 01:28:27,720
Speaker 5: Leary of waiting in those waters because they don't want

1964
01:28:27,760 --> 01:28:30,880
Speaker 5: to be lumped into or brought into a controversial deal

1965
01:28:32,080 --> 01:28:33,920
Speaker 5: through something that's not of their own doing.

1966
01:28:34,920 --> 01:28:36,599
Speaker 2: Well, I hear what you're saying, but I would think

1967
01:28:36,640 --> 01:28:38,920
Speaker 2: that the fact that Sophie came up and went public

1968
01:28:38,920 --> 01:28:41,920
Speaker 2: and really you know, was forceful in what she said

1969
01:28:41,960 --> 01:28:43,840
Speaker 2: that you know, I'm going to defend her, I'm going

1970
01:28:43,920 --> 01:28:46,000
Speaker 2: to protect her. You know, what does that do with

1971
01:28:46,040 --> 01:28:47,880
Speaker 2: these other players on the team, the ones that I

1972
01:28:47,920 --> 01:28:50,800
Speaker 2: mentioned in particular, You know, they'll say, you know, she's

1973
01:28:50,840 --> 01:28:52,200
Speaker 2: doing it because it's an ego.

1974
01:28:52,600 --> 01:28:53,439
Speaker 3: Why is she doing this?

1975
01:28:53,560 --> 01:28:56,960
Speaker 2: She wants to pub I mean, really had to cause

1976
01:28:57,000 --> 01:28:59,240
Speaker 2: a little bit of rift. There's some problems in that

1977
01:28:59,280 --> 01:29:01,439
Speaker 2: locker room. You gotta believe there is. I mean, the

1978
01:29:01,479 --> 01:29:04,880
Speaker 2: fact that the rest of the league someone is jealous, envious.

1979
01:29:04,880 --> 01:29:08,000
Speaker 2: So I hate Caitlin Clark. It has to roll over

1980
01:29:08,080 --> 01:29:10,120
Speaker 2: to some extent, at least with our teammates.

1981
01:29:10,160 --> 01:29:11,040
Speaker 3: I would think.

1982
01:29:12,560 --> 01:29:14,920
Speaker 5: I don't know if it necessarily like rolls Over, I

1983
01:29:14,920 --> 01:29:17,720
Speaker 5: don't think there. Look, I think the league isn't a

1984
01:29:17,760 --> 01:29:21,160
Speaker 5: thing where on the outside, we in a small faction

1985
01:29:21,240 --> 01:29:26,759
Speaker 5: of the media are the competitive conflict that has arisen

1986
01:29:27,200 --> 01:29:30,160
Speaker 5: NDWNBA has led people to make it more than what

1987
01:29:30,240 --> 01:29:33,800
Speaker 5: it really is. It's not jealousy in terms of a

1988
01:29:34,200 --> 01:29:40,080
Speaker 5: racial composition. I think like anytime you have alpha players

1989
01:29:40,479 --> 01:29:43,680
Speaker 5: that are competing for the biggest prize, there's going to

1990
01:29:43,680 --> 01:29:46,560
Speaker 5: be some conflict. And though us on the outside have

1991
01:29:46,640 --> 01:29:49,080
Speaker 5: made it more about Caitlyn Clark and they should be,

1992
01:29:50,400 --> 01:29:53,680
Speaker 5: they should have gratitude and all these other things, at

1993
01:29:53,720 --> 01:29:55,200
Speaker 5: the end of the day, we're.

1994
01:29:55,120 --> 01:29:57,200
Speaker 4: Overshadowing a game.

1995
01:29:57,240 --> 01:29:59,320
Speaker 5: And anytime there's a game where you're keeping score, you

1996
01:29:59,360 --> 01:30:01,320
Speaker 5: want to be on the right side of the scoreboard.

1997
01:30:01,600 --> 01:30:04,200
Speaker 5: And a lot of the conflict that we're seeing as

1998
01:30:04,240 --> 01:30:06,640
Speaker 5: it relates to Kaitlyn Clark is due to that. And

1999
01:30:06,680 --> 01:30:09,320
Speaker 5: I know people have pointed out, like, oh, how could

2000
01:30:09,320 --> 01:30:12,160
Speaker 5: the players vote the ninth best shooting guard?

2001
01:30:12,200 --> 01:30:13,240
Speaker 4: She has to be on top.

2002
01:30:13,360 --> 01:30:17,080
Speaker 5: There's envying those things, but opinions are opinions, and some

2003
01:30:17,120 --> 01:30:19,479
Speaker 5: people when they look at her game, they can see

2004
01:30:19,520 --> 01:30:22,320
Speaker 5: the flaws that she may have in her game in

2005
01:30:22,360 --> 01:30:24,720
Speaker 5: those things. So look, it is what it is. I

2006
01:30:24,760 --> 01:30:28,120
Speaker 5: think the competitive conflict is good. I think ultimately in

2007
01:30:28,200 --> 01:30:31,920
Speaker 5: every sport, for viewership and for entry, you need a

2008
01:30:32,000 --> 01:30:34,880
Speaker 5: villain and you need a heat doubt and whatever part

2009
01:30:35,000 --> 01:30:38,600
Speaker 5: that Kaitlyn Clark plays in that story, that's great. And

2010
01:30:38,640 --> 01:30:41,400
Speaker 5: then it means somebody else has to play the counter

2011
01:30:41,520 --> 01:30:42,759
Speaker 5: the nemesis to that.

2012
01:30:43,280 --> 01:30:45,160
Speaker 2: You know you're right, just just to go off the

2013
01:30:45,200 --> 01:30:47,479
Speaker 2: rail just a little bit. I don't think baseball has

2014
01:30:47,520 --> 01:30:49,679
Speaker 2: a villain, and I think that hurts, I really do.

2015
01:30:50,000 --> 01:30:53,960
Speaker 2: I mean, they got somewhat of a hero in o'hani.

2016
01:30:54,080 --> 01:30:57,680
Speaker 2: I mean perhaps maybe Aaron Judge a hero perhaps, but

2017
01:30:57,840 --> 01:31:00,400
Speaker 2: a villain I don't think so. Basketball, well you got

2018
01:31:00,520 --> 01:31:04,240
Speaker 2: Lebron he said, hero on a villain, right, and football,

2019
01:31:04,560 --> 01:31:06,479
Speaker 2: I guess Tom Brady was a villain. I mean, who's

2020
01:31:06,479 --> 01:31:10,120
Speaker 2: the villain in the NFL right now? Patrick mahone.

2021
01:31:10,320 --> 01:31:11,120
Speaker 4: Yeah.

2022
01:31:11,240 --> 01:31:13,200
Speaker 5: Pat Mahomes has a little bit of a villain thing

2023
01:31:13,240 --> 01:31:16,559
Speaker 5: because they won, like people hate them because they're winning, right,

2024
01:31:16,680 --> 01:31:19,800
Speaker 5: So there's there's some of that involved.

2025
01:31:20,240 --> 01:31:23,000
Speaker 2: And the Dallas Cowboys could be the villain the entire team,

2026
01:31:23,040 --> 01:31:24,080
Speaker 2: the America's Team.

2027
01:31:24,680 --> 01:31:26,519
Speaker 4: Maybe I don't know. I mean a little bit.

2028
01:31:26,560 --> 01:31:29,439
Speaker 5: They carry some of that because they dubbed themselves America's Team.

2029
01:31:29,800 --> 01:31:31,720
Speaker 5: Like that's the thing, like people like, how are you

2030
01:31:32,160 --> 01:31:34,479
Speaker 5: Are you gonna give yourself your own nickname? Like little Dumper?

2031
01:31:34,800 --> 01:31:37,519
Speaker 5: How do you give yourself your own nickname? No, someone

2032
01:31:37,560 --> 01:31:40,840
Speaker 5: else has to bestow a nickname upon you. You can't

2033
01:31:40,840 --> 01:31:43,120
Speaker 5: go out and say, hey man, I'm the little Dumper.

2034
01:31:43,320 --> 01:31:45,200
Speaker 5: Hear me roar Like it has to be something that

2035
01:31:45,240 --> 01:31:46,680
Speaker 5: somebody else gives you.

2036
01:31:46,760 --> 01:31:49,680
Speaker 2: There you go, okay, just a little bit, thank you

2037
01:31:49,800 --> 01:31:51,320
Speaker 2: very much, thank you, Jerry. Uh.

2038
01:31:51,880 --> 01:31:53,200
Speaker 3: Then we go back on the rail of sex.

2039
01:31:53,320 --> 01:31:55,439
Speaker 2: That was Sophie cunning Here, that was one now one

2040
01:31:55,560 --> 01:31:58,080
Speaker 2: A the bomb was once she talked about the w

2041
01:31:58,400 --> 01:32:01,320
Speaker 2: NBA expansion and here Sophie Cunningham too.

2042
01:32:01,320 --> 01:32:03,080
Speaker 3: Bit we don't have a picture, but let's listen.

2043
01:32:03,680 --> 01:32:05,439
Speaker 4: I know the history behind the WNBA.

2044
01:32:05,560 --> 01:32:07,839
Speaker 6: I know that both of those cities have had teams

2045
01:32:07,840 --> 01:32:09,280
Speaker 6: of four and they got us who at So I'm

2046
01:32:09,320 --> 01:32:12,080
Speaker 6: thankful for that. All I was really getting at is

2047
01:32:12,160 --> 01:32:15,680
Speaker 6: like Broadway the all core lifestyle, and so I think

2048
01:32:15,680 --> 01:32:18,360
Speaker 6: that is really intriguing. I think Miami's intriguing. That's all

2049
01:32:18,400 --> 01:32:20,080
Speaker 6: I was getting at. I'm thankful for what they've done

2050
01:32:20,080 --> 01:32:22,320
Speaker 6: for our history of the sport. I think it'd be

2051
01:32:22,360 --> 01:32:24,439
Speaker 6: fun to kind of get some teams outside of the

2052
01:32:24,520 --> 01:32:26,439
Speaker 6: NBA market. I do think there is benefit when you

2053
01:32:26,439 --> 01:32:28,240
Speaker 6: do have an NBA team, But that's all I was

2054
01:32:28,240 --> 01:32:30,600
Speaker 6: getting in. I think people totally missed for that situation.

2055
01:32:31,040 --> 01:32:35,320
Speaker 6: I would never speak down upon middle class, blue collar

2056
01:32:35,360 --> 01:32:35,880
Speaker 6: working people.

2057
01:32:35,920 --> 01:32:36,680
Speaker 4: That's where I come from.

2058
01:32:36,680 --> 01:32:38,720
Speaker 6: I'm from Missouri, I'd get I'm in Indiana, And that's

2059
01:32:38,760 --> 01:32:41,599
Speaker 6: kind of why I'm hinting at Broadway sounds fun, Sophie,

2060
01:32:41,680 --> 01:32:42,679
Speaker 6: Miami sounds fun.

2061
01:32:42,800 --> 01:32:46,000
Speaker 3: All I was getting, Sophie, I'm with you. I'm with

2062
01:32:46,040 --> 01:32:46,960
Speaker 3: you one thousand percent.

2063
01:32:47,040 --> 01:32:49,760
Speaker 2: I love your Selfie, because Detroit, Cleveland and Philly.

2064
01:32:49,520 --> 01:32:51,680
Speaker 3: The hell holes. Really, the only reason, the.

2065
01:32:53,320 --> 01:32:57,880
Speaker 2: Only reason the WNBA has seen as franchises there is

2066
01:32:57,920 --> 01:33:00,960
Speaker 2: because this NBA owned his own team in that same city.

2067
01:33:01,080 --> 01:33:03,160
Speaker 2: Sure they should be in Miami, Sure she should be

2068
01:33:03,160 --> 01:33:05,720
Speaker 2: in Nashville. They expect they should be in Louisville. They

2069
01:33:05,760 --> 01:33:07,680
Speaker 2: should be in Louisville. That's where they should be. Well,

2070
01:33:07,720 --> 01:33:10,360
Speaker 2: a team in South Carolina doing Staley should be coaching

2071
01:33:10,360 --> 01:33:13,920
Speaker 2: a team in South Carolina Columbia. That's where they should be, really,

2072
01:33:14,160 --> 01:33:16,519
Speaker 2: but you know what they're not. And Sophie on there

2073
01:33:16,560 --> 01:33:18,120
Speaker 2: and you know what, you didn't have to answer, but

2074
01:33:18,160 --> 01:33:20,280
Speaker 2: you did. That showed me a lot of clears because

2075
01:33:20,280 --> 01:33:22,439
Speaker 2: the city of Detroit, they went crazy. There is a

2076
01:33:22,479 --> 01:33:27,080
Speaker 2: response on X they said the attendance of its previous team,

2077
01:33:27,240 --> 01:33:30,880
Speaker 2: the Shock, and Detroit's sports town, which I'm excited.

2078
01:33:31,080 --> 01:33:33,960
Speaker 3: Come on, really, let it go. Let it go.

2079
01:33:34,600 --> 01:33:43,479
Speaker 5: I don't see anybody you disrespected there a handful with city.

2080
01:33:43,600 --> 01:33:48,240
Speaker 5: I mean, it depends they came out of Detroit.

2081
01:33:48,560 --> 01:33:52,040
Speaker 2: Okay, Motown, the four Tops and Temptations. Those are the

2082
01:33:52,040 --> 01:33:54,120
Speaker 2: two good things that came out of Detroit. Other than

2083
01:33:54,160 --> 01:33:56,600
Speaker 2: that nothing and maybe Hank Greenberg, who played for the

2084
01:33:56,640 --> 01:33:57,479
Speaker 2: Detroit Tigers.

2085
01:33:57,680 --> 01:33:59,360
Speaker 3: Really well, maybe Paris Sanders.

2086
01:33:59,400 --> 01:34:01,280
Speaker 5: I mean, if the check is big enough, I would

2087
01:34:01,280 --> 01:34:03,840
Speaker 5: consider living in Detroit. But I will say this, I

2088
01:34:03,920 --> 01:34:06,599
Speaker 5: now understand because she added context in terms of being

2089
01:34:06,680 --> 01:34:09,840
Speaker 5: in Miami and those things. But here's what you're looking

2090
01:34:09,920 --> 01:34:13,200
Speaker 5: at from a business perspective. If you're the WNBA, which

2091
01:34:13,240 --> 01:34:16,439
Speaker 5: fan bases are going to come out and support the team,

2092
01:34:16,479 --> 01:34:20,439
Speaker 5: and so when you think about summertime, and things to do,

2093
01:34:21,240 --> 01:34:23,240
Speaker 5: more things to do in Miami to keep you away

2094
01:34:23,280 --> 01:34:26,320
Speaker 5: from the arena. When there's a WNBA team in town,

2095
01:34:26,760 --> 01:34:31,240
Speaker 5: in Detroit, Cleveland, Philly. When you talk about the quote

2096
01:34:31,280 --> 01:34:35,479
Speaker 5: unquote hill holes, not as much to do, more likely

2097
01:34:35,520 --> 01:34:39,400
Speaker 5: to go to a WNBA game and get Max's capacity

2098
01:34:39,560 --> 01:34:42,040
Speaker 5: at the game compared to those other series?

2099
01:34:42,040 --> 01:34:44,879
Speaker 2: Are you answered my question right there? Mister Bucket Brook's

2100
01:34:44,920 --> 01:34:46,639
Speaker 2: nothing to do. That's why I know what he wants

2101
01:34:46,680 --> 01:34:49,839
Speaker 2: to live there. There's nothing to do in Cleveland and Detroit.

2102
01:34:50,040 --> 01:34:53,639
Speaker 2: You're exactly right, and so is Sophie Cunningham. Sophie, another

2103
01:34:53,720 --> 01:34:56,439
Speaker 2: star next to your name. You're exactly right. There's nothing

2104
01:34:56,479 --> 01:34:58,439
Speaker 2: to do in Cleveland. We're going to rock and roll

2105
01:34:58,479 --> 01:35:01,040
Speaker 2: Hall of Fame gone. Really, I want to say the

2106
01:35:01,080 --> 01:35:04,560
Speaker 2: fame like Rocket Broom. Maybe you can do a doubleheaded.

2107
01:35:04,600 --> 01:35:06,800
Speaker 2: You can go check out the Guardians. I don't like

2108
01:35:06,880 --> 01:35:08,120
Speaker 2: the last name. I don't like you.

2109
01:35:08,360 --> 01:35:09,120
Speaker 3: Why change?

2110
01:35:10,560 --> 01:35:13,000
Speaker 5: You can see you can see the Guardians, then you

2111
01:35:13,000 --> 01:35:14,520
Speaker 5: can go see the Rockers.

2112
01:35:14,560 --> 01:35:16,840
Speaker 4: I'm sure they're gonna bring that name back. Why not?

2113
01:35:16,960 --> 01:35:17,840
Speaker 4: It sounds great to me.

2114
01:35:18,120 --> 01:35:20,000
Speaker 2: Well, they'll use the same equipment. That's why they're not

2115
01:35:20,000 --> 01:35:21,840
Speaker 2: gonna you know, they use the same logo and stuff.

2116
01:35:21,840 --> 01:35:24,559
Speaker 2: They're invested in a new logo. That's what I'll bring

2117
01:35:24,600 --> 01:35:24,880
Speaker 2: it back.

2118
01:35:25,479 --> 01:35:27,240
Speaker 4: Keep everything, keep everything the same.

2119
01:35:27,680 --> 01:35:29,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, perhaps maybe for the record books. I don't know

2120
01:35:29,720 --> 01:35:32,120
Speaker 2: how they do that. But still read. You're right, there's

2121
01:35:32,160 --> 01:35:35,240
Speaker 2: not much to do. Really, I mean Detroit, really, I

2122
01:35:35,439 --> 01:35:37,639
Speaker 2: just come on, you don't want to live in Detroit.

2123
01:35:37,800 --> 01:35:40,200
Speaker 2: I'm just saying that. And you know, for those people

2124
01:35:40,240 --> 01:35:42,320
Speaker 2: who live there, God bless you. You were born there,

2125
01:35:42,320 --> 01:35:44,160
Speaker 2: you're raised there, you got family there. That's fine.

2126
01:35:44,200 --> 01:35:45,160
Speaker 3: That's what people do.

2127
01:35:45,320 --> 01:35:47,360
Speaker 2: They they migrate to where they stay and they don't

2128
01:35:47,360 --> 01:35:49,599
Speaker 2: want to move there, relatives, the whole thing there. But

2129
01:35:49,720 --> 01:35:52,519
Speaker 2: it's not a great no one's good. Grows up and said, man,

2130
01:35:52,720 --> 01:35:54,680
Speaker 2: I wish I could live in Detroit. They say what

2131
01:35:54,800 --> 01:35:57,240
Speaker 2: Sophie said. They want to live in Miami. That's what

2132
01:35:57,240 --> 01:35:58,479
Speaker 2: they want to do. They want to go out of there.

2133
01:35:58,520 --> 01:36:00,439
Speaker 2: They want to party, they want to have fun, and

2134
01:36:00,479 --> 01:36:02,040
Speaker 2: they'll still go to the games.

2135
01:36:02,520 --> 01:36:05,040
Speaker 4: You can party in it. You can party in the Midwest.

2136
01:36:05,040 --> 01:36:09,000
Speaker 5: There are places where you can party in Detroit and Cleveland, respectively.

2137
01:36:09,479 --> 01:36:11,280
Speaker 10: Like you just have to like look for it. You

2138
01:36:11,360 --> 01:36:15,080
Speaker 10: just gotta find the problem. You gotta look. You know,

2139
01:36:15,080 --> 01:36:16,519
Speaker 10: in Miami you have to look. All you gotta do

2140
01:36:16,560 --> 01:36:18,479
Speaker 10: is go out your door. Just go out the door.

2141
01:36:18,720 --> 01:36:21,000
Speaker 10: Believe me, I know, I lived in Fort Lauderdale. It's great.

2142
01:36:21,120 --> 01:36:22,040
Speaker 3: It's unbelievable.

2143
01:36:22,120 --> 01:36:23,400
Speaker 2: I mean, you go out at night and the next

2144
01:36:23,400 --> 01:36:25,439
Speaker 2: thing you know is three days later, that's what happens

2145
01:36:25,439 --> 01:36:26,240
Speaker 2: in Fort Lauderdale.

2146
01:36:26,520 --> 01:36:27,320
Speaker 3: Really, I loved it.

2147
01:36:28,880 --> 01:36:31,719
Speaker 4: Oh okay, that's still thing. I'm happy.

2148
01:36:31,840 --> 01:36:33,800
Speaker 2: But you know what, I give a lot of credit

2149
01:36:33,800 --> 01:36:37,160
Speaker 2: to Sophie Cunningham who clarified her thoughts about the comments

2150
01:36:37,160 --> 01:36:40,000
Speaker 2: on WNBA expansion from early and that was great that

2151
01:36:40,040 --> 01:36:42,000
Speaker 2: she did that. She didn't have to do it, really,

2152
01:36:42,160 --> 01:36:44,040
Speaker 2: I mean, the fact that she did that, well, I

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01:36:44,040 --> 01:36:45,600
Speaker 2: don't know if she was told to do it. I

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01:36:45,600 --> 01:36:46,160
Speaker 2: don't think so.

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01:36:46,240 --> 01:36:46,880
Speaker 3: But it was great.

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01:36:47,120 --> 01:36:49,200
Speaker 2: I love that, and I wish the league well. But

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01:36:49,280 --> 01:36:51,519
Speaker 2: I do say that Nashville would have been a great spot.

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01:36:51,800 --> 01:36:54,280
Speaker 2: And maybe you're right, Buck, Maybe because there are too

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01:36:54,320 --> 01:36:56,559
Speaker 2: many activities there in Nashville's, you know, with the music

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01:36:56,600 --> 01:37:00,240
Speaker 2: and all that stuff, maybe maybe people wouldn't go. Maybe

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01:37:00,280 --> 01:37:02,439
Speaker 2: they have a hard time drawing people. I guess the

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01:37:02,560 --> 01:37:05,000
Speaker 2: NFL is a different animal. It's once a week they

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01:37:05,040 --> 01:37:07,960
Speaker 2: only play seven, eight, maybe now nine home games, so

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01:37:08,120 --> 01:37:09,200
Speaker 2: people go, and that's.

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Speaker 3: The whole deal.

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01:37:09,640 --> 01:37:12,559
Speaker 2: They don't even compare NFL attendance to any other sport

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01:37:12,720 --> 01:37:14,200
Speaker 2: because it's just a different animal.

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Speaker 3: It really is.

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01:37:14,960 --> 01:37:18,479
Speaker 2: It's a different animal. And maybe WNBA and Nashville wouldn't go.

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01:37:19,080 --> 01:37:21,120
Speaker 2: But you know what, I'm not so certain it's going

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01:37:21,160 --> 01:37:22,160
Speaker 2: to go on Philadelphia.

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01:37:22,160 --> 01:37:26,880
Speaker 3: How's that? I don't think it will. I don't see Anthony.

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01:37:26,520 --> 01:37:29,920
Speaker 2: Gargano, my guy who's on Saturdays on Fox, going to

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Speaker 2: a WNBA game in Philly. You got big brutes in

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01:37:32,960 --> 01:37:37,679
Speaker 2: Philadelphia like Anthony, blue collar guys. Men, real men will

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01:37:37,680 --> 01:37:40,240
Speaker 2: not go to a WNBA game. That's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: I would go, but I don't think Anthony Gargana would go.

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Speaker 5: I think they said the biggest attendees are men to

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01:37:46,760 --> 01:37:47,679
Speaker 5: w NBA games.

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01:37:47,720 --> 01:37:50,439
Speaker 4: I think men really support the league. So I'm not.

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01:37:50,400 --> 01:37:52,800
Speaker 5: Saying you think so, Yeah, I think I think guys.

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01:37:52,840 --> 01:37:54,840
Speaker 4: I think guys really support the league.

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01:37:55,400 --> 01:37:58,480
Speaker 2: You know what, And that's that borders on the creepiness

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Speaker 2: of it. Maybe because God support women.

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01:38:02,439 --> 01:38:05,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, way, I think there's nothing creepy about women going

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01:38:05,240 --> 01:38:05,920
Speaker 5: to see men.

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01:38:06,400 --> 01:38:08,680
Speaker 2: You know what, They don't get called out on that,

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01:38:08,920 --> 01:38:11,160
Speaker 2: but men get called out on that. Why is that

2189
01:38:12,040 --> 01:38:15,360
Speaker 2: men get called out? If a man goes to a WNBA.

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01:38:15,400 --> 01:38:18,120
Speaker 2: If a man would wear a WNBA jersey of a

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01:38:18,160 --> 01:38:21,120
Speaker 2: player with the name on the back, that would seem creepy.

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01:38:21,320 --> 01:38:24,080
Speaker 2: But a woman could go to NFL games with a

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01:38:24,240 --> 01:38:26,680
Speaker 2: player's name on the back, a baseball game with the

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01:38:26,760 --> 01:38:28,080
Speaker 2: jersey other than the name on the back.

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Speaker 3: Why is that? Why is there a double standing there?

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01:38:30,800 --> 01:38:34,679
Speaker 2: And this is the first time I've ever asked the people, No, really,

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01:38:34,720 --> 01:38:37,360
Speaker 2: the first I've ever asked for people to call in

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01:38:37,400 --> 01:38:39,519
Speaker 2: and tell me on the phone. Never never given the

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Speaker 2: phone number to do this. Eight seven, seven ninety nine

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01:38:42,200 --> 01:38:45,559
Speaker 2: on Fox eight seven seven nine nine six sixty three

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Speaker 2: sixty nine. Why is there or is there a double

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Speaker 2: standing with men and women rooting for sports teams and athletes?

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Speaker 3: That's all I want to know.

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01:38:54,000 --> 01:38:55,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't, Yeah, I don't. I don't know. I

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01:38:55,880 --> 01:38:57,800
Speaker 4: don't know why that is. I don't know why we

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01:38:57,800 --> 01:39:00,640
Speaker 4: were uncomfortable. But you know what the w n b

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01:39:00,720 --> 01:39:01,320
Speaker 4: A is.

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01:39:01,040 --> 01:39:03,080
Speaker 5: It is having a tough time adjusting because I think

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Speaker 5: Kelsey Plumb had an incident.

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Speaker 4: With the photograph to a guy.

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01:39:07,840 --> 01:39:11,879
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, things that are Yeah, things that are normal.

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01:39:12,320 --> 01:39:16,040
Speaker 5: And the I would say male pro sports landscape are

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01:39:16,040 --> 01:39:19,559
Speaker 5: a little different for females for women, they have to.

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01:39:19,760 --> 01:39:20,920
Speaker 4: Adapt and adjust to that.

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01:39:20,960 --> 01:39:23,040
Speaker 5: But yeah, if you have fans, you're gonna have autograph

2216
01:39:23,080 --> 01:39:25,719
Speaker 5: seekers and guys are gonna want to have you sign

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01:39:26,240 --> 01:39:31,120
Speaker 5: various things, whether it's paper notebooks, sign sign, sign my arms,

2218
01:39:31,160 --> 01:39:33,240
Speaker 5: sign my chest, like, you can get some of that stuff.

2219
01:39:33,240 --> 01:39:34,759
Speaker 4: And yeah, she has to put.

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01:39:35,080 --> 01:39:38,280
Speaker 5: Boundaries on some of those things, but that's that's what happens.

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01:39:38,280 --> 01:39:42,000
Speaker 5: When the sport goes mainstream and it grows, you're gonna

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Speaker 5: have more people of the opposite sex supporting you, and

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01:39:45,080 --> 01:39:46,040
Speaker 5: you have to be okay with that.

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01:39:46,439 --> 01:39:48,920
Speaker 3: Well, I I support the w n B A I

2225
01:39:48,920 --> 01:39:51,240
Speaker 3: I watched the games. I enjoy the games.

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01:39:51,280 --> 01:39:54,280
Speaker 2: But I wouldn't be caught dead in an NBA jersey

2227
01:39:54,600 --> 01:39:57,120
Speaker 2: because the wn B a jersey, because they'll think I'm creepy,

2228
01:39:57,200 --> 01:39:59,320
Speaker 2: especially well, you know jersey with the name on the

2229
01:39:59,320 --> 01:40:01,559
Speaker 2: back of I walked with the Sophie Cunningham jersey.

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01:40:01,800 --> 01:40:04,040
Speaker 3: You know, she's a very attractive. I think she's a model.

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01:40:04,160 --> 01:40:05,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I'm not aware of They'll think I'm

2232
01:40:05,800 --> 01:40:07,880
Speaker 2: a creepy old guy. I'm not doing it, you know,

2233
01:40:08,120 --> 01:40:11,080
Speaker 2: but I'll wear an Indiana Fever T shirt. I'll do that,

2234
01:40:11,640 --> 01:40:14,679
Speaker 2: you know. But it's okay, I guess for a woman

2235
01:40:14,760 --> 01:40:19,320
Speaker 2: to wear. You know, who's a hunk. Who's a Joe Burrow,

2236
01:40:19,600 --> 01:40:22,200
Speaker 2: a Joe Burrow jersey. I guess, I get right, it's

2237
01:40:22,240 --> 01:40:24,439
Speaker 2: okay for that. We'll find that if someone has the

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01:40:24,560 --> 01:40:27,080
Speaker 2: guts to call and let us know. He's Bucky Brooks

2239
01:40:27,080 --> 01:40:29,840
Speaker 2: on X at Bucket. Brooks had Andy Furman FSR and

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Speaker 2: of course we got the playing game. At the end

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Speaker 2: of this hour and again eight seven, seven ninety nine

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01:40:33,920 --> 01:40:37,040
Speaker 2: on Fox we have some good news, good news for

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Speaker 2: an NFL team that's next. This was a foolish remark.

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Speaker 2: Sports Radio studios. Now, let's move along here, because this

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Speaker 2: something over here that's gonna be good news. Good news

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01:41:24,479 --> 01:41:27,160
Speaker 2: if you're a fan of the Pittsburgh Steelers.

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Speaker 3: Really got some good news.

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01:41:28,400 --> 01:41:30,920
Speaker 2: And a lot of people in the Cincinnati area where

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01:41:30,960 --> 01:41:33,439
Speaker 2: I live are not fans of the Pittsburgh Steelers because

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01:41:33,439 --> 01:41:35,439
Speaker 2: they played the Bengals. All right, I get it. But

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01:41:35,520 --> 01:41:38,719
Speaker 2: the Pittsburgh Steelers signed the con artist, the con artist,

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01:41:38,800 --> 01:41:41,559
Speaker 2: Omar Kahan to a three year contract. He's their general

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01:41:41,600 --> 01:41:47,800
Speaker 2: manager and he succeeded the Kevin Colbert era back in

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01:41:47,840 --> 01:41:51,600
Speaker 2: twenty twenty two. This is CON's twenty fifth year with

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01:41:51,680 --> 01:41:54,000
Speaker 2: the Pittsburgh Steels. He signed a three year deal. So

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01:41:54,080 --> 01:41:55,320
Speaker 2: why is that good news?

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Speaker 4: Buck?

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Speaker 2: You want to take a guess, I know why that's

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01:41:57,600 --> 01:42:00,400
Speaker 2: good news. I'm taking again. I'm connecting the dots. You

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01:42:00,439 --> 01:42:02,479
Speaker 2: have any idea why it's a good thing that they're

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01:42:02,479 --> 01:42:05,800
Speaker 2: still has signed Omar Khan to three year extension.

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Speaker 4: Is GM because this is what the Steelers do.

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01:42:08,600 --> 01:42:11,840
Speaker 5: Their model franchise when it comes to stability and their

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01:42:11,880 --> 01:42:15,479
Speaker 5: consistency comes from the stability team that has only had

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01:42:15,520 --> 01:42:20,800
Speaker 5: three head coaches and franchise history. They are a franchise

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01:42:20,880 --> 01:42:25,800
Speaker 5: that believes in the continuity of maintaining same GM, same

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Speaker 5: head coach, and over time it has proven to be true. Look,

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01:42:29,120 --> 01:42:32,800
Speaker 5: you have six Lombardi Trophies in the trophy case. You

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01:42:32,840 --> 01:42:35,240
Speaker 5: have a team that is always in the conversation of

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01:42:35,320 --> 01:42:36,640
Speaker 5: being a playoff contender.

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01:42:37,160 --> 01:42:38,240
Speaker 4: And when we.

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01:42:38,360 --> 01:42:42,479
Speaker 5: Are in the midst of a ring culture where everyone

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01:42:42,600 --> 01:42:45,760
Speaker 5: is going all in on it, the Pittsburgh Steelers have

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01:42:45,880 --> 01:42:48,320
Speaker 5: always been in the conversation. So even though they're not

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01:42:48,479 --> 01:42:52,879
Speaker 5: quite good enough to challenge, they're always in the tournament

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01:42:53,000 --> 01:42:54,600
Speaker 5: and you have to be in the tournament to be

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01:42:54,640 --> 01:42:57,719
Speaker 5: a title contender, which is what they've been. And under

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Speaker 5: Omar Khan, they've changed a little bit of the way

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Speaker 5: they do business, but the results have been there.

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Speaker 4: Look, this is a team that continues to succeed.

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01:43:05,880 --> 01:43:08,840
Speaker 5: They have success, Mike Tomlin has had success.

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01:43:09,120 --> 01:43:11,080
Speaker 4: Omar Khan is tied to some of that.

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Speaker 5: They want to make sure that the franchise remains a

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Speaker 5: model franchise. By resigning to GM, they resigned a head

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01:43:17,760 --> 01:43:21,040
Speaker 5: coach to continue the relationship that they've had that's been

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Speaker 5: successful for them.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I agree.

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01:43:23,600 --> 01:43:25,680
Speaker 2: I mean I hadn't thought about in that direction that

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01:43:25,680 --> 01:43:28,679
Speaker 2: the consistency is a great factor. And also the fact

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01:43:28,680 --> 01:43:31,160
Speaker 2: that Mike Tomlin right now and there's been some rumblings

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01:43:31,160 --> 01:43:32,720
Speaker 2: that maybe this will be his last year he's going

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Speaker 2: to leave. I think with Omar Khan there, I think

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01:43:34,880 --> 01:43:37,600
Speaker 2: Mike Tomlin's a little safer, but he shouldn't even be

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Speaker 2: in any sort of a hot seat or a warmp seat.

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01:43:39,800 --> 01:43:42,240
Speaker 2: He's never had a losing season. But my feeling was

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Speaker 2: the fact that it's good news for Omar Khan and

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01:43:44,720 --> 01:43:48,200
Speaker 2: steel of fans because they wouldn't resign him if he

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01:43:48,240 --> 01:43:49,120
Speaker 2: couldn't get TJ.

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Speaker 3: Watt to sign.

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Speaker 4: TJ.

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Speaker 2: Wats a big link for this ball club and he

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Speaker 2: hasn't signed yet. I think the fact that Omar Khan

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Speaker 2: has signed the deal, why would they sign Omar Khan

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Speaker 2: to a three year extension if TJ. Watt, Well, he

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Speaker 2: would not sign TJ.

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Speaker 4: Watt.

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Speaker 3: So they know something. They know that TJ.

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Speaker 2: Wat's pretty close to being signed thanks to Omar Khan

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Speaker 2: and that's why kN got his extension. Do you think

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Speaker 2: that's a possibility. Am not connecting the dots too soon?

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Speaker 4: A W Well?

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Speaker 5: I mean, look, I think as a matter of time,

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Speaker 5: they've already said that they want TJ. Watt to be

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01:44:21,280 --> 01:44:23,120
Speaker 5: a still in a stiller for life, so they'll take

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01:44:23,120 --> 01:44:25,880
Speaker 5: care of that. The money's the money to negotiation normally

2329
01:44:25,880 --> 01:44:27,400
Speaker 5: doesn't start until you have deadlines.

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Speaker 4: Deadlines are on the horizon.

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01:44:28,560 --> 01:44:30,519
Speaker 5: Went to start a training camp and those things, so

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Speaker 5: we'll see that deal get done likely before training camp starts.

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Speaker 4: With Omar Khan, It's the entire body of work.

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01:44:36,680 --> 01:44:39,479
Speaker 5: Have the rookies performed, have the free agents that they've

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01:44:39,520 --> 01:44:41,840
Speaker 5: signed and perform? Where we at when it comes to

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01:44:41,880 --> 01:44:44,760
Speaker 5: the cap and the team and the long term projection

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Speaker 5: of the team. Do we feel like this team is

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Speaker 5: going to be a viable contender for the facilable future?

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01:44:49,280 --> 01:44:52,440
Speaker 5: All of those things matter when it comes to evaluating

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01:44:52,479 --> 01:44:55,479
Speaker 5: the performers of the GM. And I know this, and

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01:44:55,520 --> 01:44:58,559
Speaker 5: I know Stellers fans are tired of grown tired of

2342
01:44:58,560 --> 01:44:59,760
Speaker 5: the team not going to.

2343
01:44:59,760 --> 01:45:00,800
Speaker 4: The super Bowl.

2344
01:45:01,000 --> 01:45:04,080
Speaker 5: But I'll say this, there are eighty percent of the

2345
01:45:04,080 --> 01:45:08,000
Speaker 5: fans in the league that would trade their team's success

2346
01:45:08,040 --> 01:45:10,519
Speaker 5: for what the Stellers have been able to enjoy. And

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01:45:10,720 --> 01:45:13,639
Speaker 5: oh my Cohn has done a solid job since he's

2348
01:45:13,680 --> 01:45:14,679
Speaker 5: taken over the team.

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01:45:15,000 --> 01:45:16,200
Speaker 4: It's one where he has.

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01:45:16,080 --> 01:45:18,960
Speaker 5: To ignore the noise when it comes to how people

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01:45:19,080 --> 01:45:21,320
Speaker 5: expect the Stellers to get down and perform in a

2352
01:45:21,400 --> 01:45:23,920
Speaker 5: league that is very a league. In a conference, it's

2353
01:45:24,000 --> 01:45:27,479
Speaker 5: very difficult to have sustain success. And when you talk

2354
01:45:27,520 --> 01:45:31,920
Speaker 5: about the division Baltimore, Cleveland, Cincinnati, it's a rough road

2355
01:45:32,200 --> 01:45:34,760
Speaker 5: when it comes to getting a top the division. But

2356
01:45:34,800 --> 01:45:37,360
Speaker 5: they've been a top division, which is why everyone gets

2357
01:45:37,400 --> 01:45:39,080
Speaker 5: rewarded when you have a team.

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Speaker 4: Had to love success to Pittsburgh Steelers a hat.

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Speaker 2: You know, it's funny you mentioned that because you're told

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01:45:43,520 --> 01:45:47,160
Speaker 2: about the AFC North with Baltimore, Pittsburgh, Cincinnati and Cleveland

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01:45:47,680 --> 01:45:49,640
Speaker 2: that I'd say two years ago may have been the

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01:45:49,640 --> 01:45:51,639
Speaker 2: toughest division in the National Football League.

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Speaker 3: I think that's changed.

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Speaker 2: I think things have moved out to the NFC North

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Speaker 2: with Detroit, Minnesota, Green.

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Speaker 3: Bay, and Chicago. Do you agree. I think that may

2367
01:45:58,720 --> 01:46:00,360
Speaker 3: be the toughest division of football now.

2368
01:46:01,280 --> 01:46:03,280
Speaker 4: Look, it's going to be really, really tough. It is

2369
01:46:03,360 --> 01:46:04,080
Speaker 4: going to be.

2370
01:46:05,720 --> 01:46:08,800
Speaker 5: A challenging division because you think about the Detroit Lions

2371
01:46:08,840 --> 01:46:12,080
Speaker 5: maybe coming back to the pack, but Minnesota, Green Bay,

2372
01:46:12,520 --> 01:46:16,040
Speaker 5: and Chicago all improving at least on paper. Yeah, it

2373
01:46:16,080 --> 01:46:19,439
Speaker 5: should be fun to watch. It's always been competitive within

2374
01:46:19,479 --> 01:46:22,240
Speaker 5: the division. The Robberies run deep in that division. So yeah,

2375
01:46:22,439 --> 01:46:24,519
Speaker 5: I look, I like it. I like where it's going,

2376
01:46:24,560 --> 01:46:27,160
Speaker 5: and I'm looking looking forward to seeing how it plays

2377
01:46:27,160 --> 01:46:27,679
Speaker 5: out this year.

2378
01:46:28,240 --> 01:46:29,920
Speaker 3: Okay, I want to stay in the division.

2379
01:46:29,920 --> 01:46:31,960
Speaker 2: I want to stay in the AFC, and I'm going

2380
01:46:32,040 --> 01:46:34,320
Speaker 2: to move away from Pittsburgh because I think the fact

2381
01:46:34,360 --> 01:46:37,559
Speaker 2: that the Omar Khan, the Khan man right there, the

2382
01:46:37,600 --> 01:46:41,160
Speaker 2: fact that he's resigned. TJ Watt, don't worry, Stealer fans, TJ.

2383
01:46:41,240 --> 01:46:42,800
Speaker 2: Watch the steel There's no doubt about that.

2384
01:46:43,080 --> 01:46:43,640
Speaker 3: We moved to.

2385
01:46:43,800 --> 01:46:46,040
Speaker 2: Well, let's go to the Baltimore Ravens for a second,

2386
01:46:46,080 --> 01:46:49,040
Speaker 2: because I'm going to throw out these terms and which

2387
01:46:49,080 --> 01:46:53,880
Speaker 2: one should stick smart, cocky, arrogant or truthful.

2388
01:46:53,960 --> 01:46:54,639
Speaker 3: Take your pick.

2389
01:46:55,160 --> 01:46:58,240
Speaker 2: Ravens quarterback Lamar Jackson he said the other day the

2390
01:46:58,280 --> 01:46:59,679
Speaker 2: game has gotten a lot easier.

2391
01:47:00,160 --> 01:47:01,160
Speaker 3: Why would he say that?

2392
01:47:01,600 --> 01:47:05,280
Speaker 2: I mean, really, I mean I sometimes these guys talk

2393
01:47:05,360 --> 01:47:07,400
Speaker 2: for the sake of talking. They want their name outter.

2394
01:47:07,439 --> 01:47:09,839
Speaker 2: I love Lamar, I loved them when he was at Louisville.

2395
01:47:09,880 --> 01:47:12,000
Speaker 2: I love everything he's done. As a matter of fact,

2396
01:47:12,000 --> 01:47:15,840
Speaker 2: he's probably done more than any other quarterback in NFL

2397
01:47:15,960 --> 01:47:17,840
Speaker 2: history except winning the Super Bowl.

2398
01:47:18,160 --> 01:47:18,800
Speaker 3: Think about that.

2399
01:47:18,840 --> 01:47:22,240
Speaker 2: He's done everything and anything, rush for more yardage. Now

2400
01:47:22,240 --> 01:47:25,000
Speaker 2: he's become a passer. He's got two MVP Awards under

2401
01:47:25,040 --> 01:47:27,719
Speaker 2: his belt. He's done at all except winning a super Bowl.

2402
01:47:27,840 --> 01:47:29,800
Speaker 2: But you don't need to talk, and they'll need to

2403
01:47:29,880 --> 01:47:32,640
Speaker 2: say things like that. And he was on that. I

2404
01:47:32,640 --> 01:47:35,759
Speaker 2: think it was with Kevin Hart on an interview Coldest

2405
01:47:35,800 --> 01:47:40,080
Speaker 2: Balls it was, and that was what's called coldest Balls

2406
01:47:40,120 --> 01:47:44,000
Speaker 2: with Kevin Art. He said that they're getting close to

2407
01:47:44,000 --> 01:47:46,800
Speaker 2: the super Bowl. Close is no cigar, for sure, but

2408
01:47:47,080 --> 01:47:49,000
Speaker 2: he said the game's gotten a lot easier. How is

2409
01:47:49,040 --> 01:47:51,400
Speaker 2: the game gotten easier? Bucket Brooks tell me, I would

2410
01:47:51,400 --> 01:47:53,800
Speaker 2: think the older you get, it gets harder because.

2411
01:47:53,640 --> 01:47:56,479
Speaker 3: You're hurting more, there's more injuries, you're slowing down a

2412
01:47:56,520 --> 01:47:57,800
Speaker 3: little bit. I don't get it.

2413
01:47:58,000 --> 01:47:59,479
Speaker 2: The only thing I can think of is the fact

2414
01:47:59,479 --> 01:48:01,400
Speaker 2: that the rules for quarterbacks, you can't.

2415
01:48:01,240 --> 01:48:02,639
Speaker 3: Even touch a quarterback anymore.

2416
01:48:02,920 --> 01:48:05,240
Speaker 2: You know, the quarterbacks back in the day got they

2417
01:48:05,280 --> 01:48:07,840
Speaker 2: got beat up a lot more than quarterbacks today.

2418
01:48:09,160 --> 01:48:13,160
Speaker 5: I think the reason why it's gotten easier for Lamar

2419
01:48:13,320 --> 01:48:16,280
Speaker 5: is because experience brings a level of expertise.

2420
01:48:16,720 --> 01:48:18,799
Speaker 4: The longer you play, the more the.

2421
01:48:18,680 --> 01:48:23,160
Speaker 5: Game slows down, and as the game slows down, it's

2422
01:48:23,560 --> 01:48:24,919
Speaker 5: easier to have.

2423
01:48:27,320 --> 01:48:30,320
Speaker 4: Consistent success. And what Lamar Jackson has.

2424
01:48:30,240 --> 01:48:33,000
Speaker 5: Seen, the game slowed down, so now it's almost a

2425
01:48:33,080 --> 01:48:36,080
Speaker 5: level of mastery. I understand what I'm doing, I understand

2426
01:48:36,120 --> 01:48:38,800
Speaker 5: what the opponent is doing. So now I'm free, and

2427
01:48:38,880 --> 01:48:42,000
Speaker 5: now I'm free to play without clutter, which allows me

2428
01:48:42,080 --> 01:48:43,439
Speaker 5: to be the best version of myself.

2429
01:48:43,439 --> 01:48:45,360
Speaker 4: That's why he's saying the game has gotten easy.

2430
01:48:45,840 --> 01:48:49,120
Speaker 5: Every time you play a game, you learn something, and

2431
01:48:49,160 --> 01:48:54,040
Speaker 5: because you're learning now, you're tapping into the ability to

2432
01:48:54,080 --> 01:48:54,759
Speaker 5: tell them to take.

2433
01:48:54,600 --> 01:48:57,200
Speaker 4: It up a notch. That's why. That's why, that's why

2434
01:48:57,280 --> 01:48:59,560
Speaker 4: it works, That's why it's easy for him.

2435
01:49:00,120 --> 01:49:03,440
Speaker 2: Well, I would say this if I'm a defensive coordinator

2436
01:49:03,720 --> 01:49:07,280
Speaker 2: and I read that and hear that, I'm a little worried. Okay,

2437
01:49:07,360 --> 01:49:09,960
Speaker 2: because last year he had perhaps the best year of

2438
01:49:09,960 --> 01:49:12,800
Speaker 2: his career. He threw for four thousand yards for the

2439
01:49:12,800 --> 01:49:15,559
Speaker 2: first time last year ever, and he threw for a

2440
01:49:15,600 --> 01:49:18,040
Speaker 2: career high forty one touchdowns. He had one hell of

2441
01:49:18,040 --> 01:49:20,559
Speaker 2: a year. And here's a guy that you know, you

2442
01:49:20,600 --> 01:49:22,519
Speaker 2: may not like the Buldeo Ravens, you may not even

2443
01:49:22,720 --> 01:49:25,120
Speaker 2: like Lamar Jackson. You got a root for the guy.

2444
01:49:25,160 --> 01:49:27,200
Speaker 2: You love to see him. We're in a super Bowl.

2445
01:49:27,360 --> 01:49:29,479
Speaker 2: I mean, he's done everything, but when the super Bowl,

2446
01:49:29,600 --> 01:49:31,200
Speaker 2: you love to see him win it. You know what,

2447
01:49:31,280 --> 01:49:32,960
Speaker 2: I want to see him win the super Bowl. I

2448
01:49:32,960 --> 01:49:35,240
Speaker 2: think he deserves to. I mean, this guy has done

2449
01:49:35,280 --> 01:49:38,000
Speaker 2: everything and anything, you know, except when the super Bowl.

2450
01:49:38,000 --> 01:49:40,720
Speaker 2: And to some extent, I hate to say it, I

2451
01:49:40,760 --> 01:49:43,720
Speaker 2: don't think it's fair. Life isn't fair, but I'm saying it.

2452
01:49:43,760 --> 01:49:44,559
Speaker 2: I don't think it's fair.

2453
01:49:46,120 --> 01:49:48,360
Speaker 4: I mean, look, it is never fair.

2454
01:49:48,400 --> 01:49:51,400
Speaker 5: But like the hard days bring you about the celebration

2455
01:49:51,479 --> 01:49:52,599
Speaker 5: when you really make it happen.

2456
01:49:52,760 --> 01:49:54,360
Speaker 4: So I am.

2457
01:49:54,680 --> 01:49:58,320
Speaker 5: Excited to see how it all plays out. I think

2458
01:49:58,479 --> 01:50:01,360
Speaker 5: the pressure is a privilege. You want to be in

2459
01:50:01,840 --> 01:50:06,160
Speaker 5: meaningful moments and meaningful games that have huge, insignificant consequences.

2460
01:50:06,400 --> 01:50:07,800
Speaker 5: It makes sense to me to want to be a

2461
01:50:07,800 --> 01:50:08,880
Speaker 5: part of those things.

2462
01:50:09,400 --> 01:50:12,599
Speaker 2: Well, the only thing that kind of haunts this guy,

2463
01:50:13,360 --> 01:50:15,280
Speaker 2: is that the Ravens were like three and five in

2464
01:50:15,320 --> 01:50:18,680
Speaker 2: playoff games something like that. I mean again, I mean

2465
01:50:18,720 --> 01:50:22,120
Speaker 2: that's the rub on Lamar Jackson. I mean they just

2466
01:50:22,160 --> 01:50:24,439
Speaker 2: say he you know, he's a great runner. There's no

2467
01:50:24,479 --> 01:50:27,080
Speaker 2: doubt about that. He's an electrifying runner. But the point

2468
01:50:27,160 --> 01:50:28,519
Speaker 2: is that when he gets to these big games, they

2469
01:50:28,520 --> 01:50:30,680
Speaker 2: say he can't play under the big lights, even when

2470
01:50:30,680 --> 01:50:33,120
Speaker 2: he would play on Monday night football. These announceers with

2471
01:50:33,160 --> 01:50:36,719
Speaker 2: the mean I get it, everybody needs a storyline, but

2472
01:50:37,040 --> 01:50:40,640
Speaker 2: to kind of focus on those things after what he

2473
01:50:40,720 --> 01:50:43,479
Speaker 2: has accomplished in his career, he's a Hall of famer.

2474
01:50:43,960 --> 01:50:46,160
Speaker 2: You know, if you were to retire now, he's in

2475
01:50:46,200 --> 01:50:47,760
Speaker 2: the Hall of Fame. There's no doubt in my mind,

2476
01:50:47,960 --> 01:50:51,080
Speaker 2: without the ring, without the Super Bowl. I mean, you know,

2477
01:50:51,160 --> 01:50:54,280
Speaker 2: like you said just before, we're a ring society. You know,

2478
01:50:54,840 --> 01:50:57,280
Speaker 2: believe me, you could be a great player and not

2479
01:50:57,320 --> 01:51:00,160
Speaker 2: win a ring. In the minds of many that it's

2480
01:51:00,200 --> 01:51:02,720
Speaker 2: not true, but you can. You know, you don't have

2481
01:51:02,760 --> 01:51:05,000
Speaker 2: to win a ring to go to the Hall of Fame.

2482
01:51:05,240 --> 01:51:07,519
Speaker 2: I mean, to me, the only reason Eli Manning may

2483
01:51:07,560 --> 01:51:09,280
Speaker 2: go to the Hall of Fame is because he won

2484
01:51:09,360 --> 01:51:11,479
Speaker 2: a ring. I don't think he's a Hall of Famer,

2485
01:51:11,640 --> 01:51:13,920
Speaker 2: but he wanted he won two Super Bowls. He's gonna

2486
01:51:13,960 --> 01:51:17,719
Speaker 2: go right, That's that's the connection for him.

2487
01:51:18,160 --> 01:51:19,679
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean that that is a connection.

2488
01:51:19,760 --> 01:51:22,280
Speaker 5: That's one of the things that we'll talk about it,

2489
01:51:22,360 --> 01:51:27,080
Speaker 5: like with Eli, because some will talk about Eli having

2490
01:51:27,120 --> 01:51:29,519
Speaker 5: a better career than say a Philip Rivers because he

2491
01:51:29,600 --> 01:51:30,479
Speaker 5: won more rings.

2492
01:51:30,479 --> 01:51:33,479
Speaker 4: But that might be debatable, but it is.

2493
01:51:35,560 --> 01:51:40,760
Speaker 5: Kind of how we judge players, particularly quarterbacks. We judged

2494
01:51:40,840 --> 01:51:43,920
Speaker 5: them on rings and wins and how often they win

2495
01:51:44,000 --> 01:51:48,960
Speaker 5: and the level with which they win. You know, That's

2496
01:51:48,960 --> 01:51:51,400
Speaker 5: that's what we do in a debatable society in terms

2497
01:51:51,439 --> 01:51:55,360
Speaker 5: of like we love debates. Rings give us something that

2498
01:51:55,400 --> 01:51:58,719
Speaker 5: we can quantify because it says that you're the ultimate winner.

2499
01:51:59,600 --> 01:51:59,800
Speaker 4: You know.

2500
01:52:00,479 --> 01:52:03,240
Speaker 2: I hate to do this because we started the show

2501
01:52:03,240 --> 01:52:06,400
Speaker 2: off today talking about gambling and some of the athletes

2502
01:52:06,400 --> 01:52:09,559
Speaker 2: in the NBA and MLB getting in trouble, but you

2503
01:52:09,600 --> 01:52:11,280
Speaker 2: know it's out there. So I'm going to say it

2504
01:52:11,320 --> 01:52:13,679
Speaker 2: that the odds makers seem to agree with Jackson about

2505
01:52:13,720 --> 01:52:17,080
Speaker 2: going to the Super Bowl, because Baltimore is currently tied

2506
01:52:17,160 --> 01:52:21,200
Speaker 2: with Buffalo for the best odds to win Super Bowl LX,

2507
01:52:21,400 --> 01:52:24,080
Speaker 2: which I think is sixty because L is fifty and

2508
01:52:24,120 --> 01:52:25,760
Speaker 2: HEX is ten, so it's got to.

2509
01:52:25,760 --> 01:52:27,920
Speaker 4: Be sixty, right, That's what it was. Sixty.

2510
01:52:28,080 --> 01:52:28,400
Speaker 3: Remember that.

2511
01:52:28,439 --> 01:52:30,599
Speaker 2: I think we learned that in fifth grade at PS

2512
01:52:30,680 --> 01:52:33,080
Speaker 2: win twenty eight. We go so the Ravens and the

2513
01:52:33,120 --> 01:52:35,519
Speaker 2: Eagles and the Ravens that bills a plus seven hundred

2514
01:52:35,960 --> 01:52:38,640
Speaker 2: win to win the Super Bowl. So that would be

2515
01:52:38,680 --> 01:52:41,680
Speaker 2: a night Look again, it would be a cap on

2516
01:52:41,720 --> 01:52:45,120
Speaker 2: a career that's been a tremendous career and I don't

2517
01:52:45,160 --> 01:52:49,439
Speaker 2: think a lot of people expected Lamar Jackson to accomplish

2518
01:52:49,520 --> 01:52:51,639
Speaker 2: what he's accomplished. I'm going to say this right now,

2519
01:52:51,920 --> 01:52:54,160
Speaker 2: and I may be way way out of place by

2520
01:52:54,160 --> 01:52:56,280
Speaker 2: saying it, and I know you, I think you'll agree

2521
01:52:56,320 --> 01:52:59,400
Speaker 2: with me. If Lamar Jackson was drafted fifteen years ago,

2522
01:53:00,160 --> 01:53:01,760
Speaker 2: try to convert him into a cornerback.

2523
01:53:03,160 --> 01:53:05,800
Speaker 5: I mean they're talking about converting him to wide receiver

2524
01:53:05,920 --> 01:53:08,800
Speaker 5: when he was drafted. So yeah, yeah, regardless of whether

2525
01:53:08,800 --> 01:53:11,200
Speaker 5: it's fifteen years ago, ten years ago, there's always gonna

2526
01:53:11,200 --> 01:53:14,360
Speaker 5: be that conversation. Well, Lamar Jackson has done is he's

2527
01:53:14,400 --> 01:53:17,880
Speaker 5: proven that they say is wrong by playing well when

2528
01:53:17,880 --> 01:53:21,640
Speaker 5: he had his opportunity. That's all you can do. Like,

2529
01:53:21,720 --> 01:53:25,640
Speaker 5: it doesn't matter what the outsiders say. You ultimately control

2530
01:53:26,040 --> 01:53:28,400
Speaker 5: the narrative by the way that you perform and the

2531
01:53:28,439 --> 01:53:30,920
Speaker 5: way that you prepare. If you perform, if you prepare

2532
01:53:30,960 --> 01:53:32,280
Speaker 5: the right way, your performance.

2533
01:53:31,960 --> 01:53:33,479
Speaker 4: Is gonna speak for yourself. And that's what he's been

2534
01:53:33,520 --> 01:53:34,639
Speaker 4: able to do. Right.

2535
01:53:35,040 --> 01:53:39,559
Speaker 2: Okay, Let's talk about not Lamar Jackson as much. Let's

2536
01:53:39,600 --> 01:53:43,880
Speaker 2: talk about the Baltimore Ravens because let's see what they

2537
01:53:43,920 --> 01:53:47,000
Speaker 2: have gone for them, because they have been something like

2538
01:53:47,040 --> 01:53:49,479
Speaker 2: twenty five and nine while winning the.

2539
01:53:49,439 --> 01:53:51,160
Speaker 3: AFC North the last two years.

2540
01:53:51,360 --> 01:53:56,040
Speaker 2: All right, but I think the problem and Lamar he's

2541
01:53:56,040 --> 01:53:57,920
Speaker 2: not going to talk about it. They got a lot

2542
01:53:57,960 --> 01:54:01,280
Speaker 2: of veterans, but they are thirty plus. No, I don't

2543
01:54:01,280 --> 01:54:03,200
Speaker 2: think thirty is old, but maybe in the NFL it

2544
01:54:03,240 --> 01:54:07,479
Speaker 2: is it. Derrick Henry, Ronnie Stanley, Kyle van Ney. These

2545
01:54:07,479 --> 01:54:09,960
Speaker 2: guys are old guys. I mean, it's that going to

2546
01:54:10,040 --> 01:54:12,840
Speaker 2: work against him to possibly get to the Super Bowl.

2547
01:54:13,760 --> 01:54:14,679
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it's tough.

2548
01:54:14,760 --> 01:54:16,599
Speaker 5: Is one and done because they're not gonna be able

2549
01:54:16,600 --> 01:54:19,000
Speaker 5: to count on the same lineup to do it over time.

2550
01:54:19,040 --> 01:54:20,679
Speaker 5: They gotta get it done this year with their crew.

2551
01:54:20,680 --> 01:54:21,679
Speaker 5: Then they're gonna have to reset.

2552
01:54:22,520 --> 01:54:24,360
Speaker 2: Well, we'll see what happens. I wish him will, but

2553
01:54:24,400 --> 01:54:27,960
Speaker 2: that's okay. Lamar Jackson. Two people that I love today, well,

2554
01:54:27,960 --> 01:54:31,040
Speaker 2: besides Bucky Brooks and ld you know little Dumper, I

2555
01:54:31,080 --> 01:54:32,440
Speaker 2: love Sophie Cunningham.

2556
01:54:32,000 --> 01:54:32,839
Speaker 3: And Lamar Judson.

2557
01:54:32,920 --> 01:54:33,480
Speaker 4: There we go.

2558
01:54:33,640 --> 01:54:35,080
Speaker 3: All right, let's get it going.

2559
01:54:35,280 --> 01:54:37,880
Speaker 2: It's Bucky Brooks, It's Andy Firman, It's Fox Sports SONNYA,

2560
01:54:37,920 --> 01:54:40,600
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio. It's time to let it rip. The

2561
01:54:40,680 --> 01:54:45,040
Speaker 2: playing game is freaking next. All right, there's no holding

2562
01:54:45,200 --> 01:54:47,080
Speaker 2: back on this game, and it's coming right up.

2563
01:54:47,080 --> 01:54:47,400
Speaker 4: All right.

2564
01:54:47,440 --> 01:54:51,000
Speaker 2: He's Bucky Brooks, I'm Andy Firmer. We are Fox Sports SONNYA,

2565
01:54:51,040 --> 01:54:53,560
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio. We're live from the Fox Sports Radio studios.

2566
01:54:53,720 --> 01:54:55,160
Speaker 2: And before we get into it, at the top of

2567
01:54:55,200 --> 01:54:57,640
Speaker 2: the hour, which is like twelve minutes from now, that's

2568
01:54:57,720 --> 01:55:01,800
Speaker 2: nine am on the East Coast, countdown, Ryan O, Jeff Schwartz, I,

2569
01:55:01,840 --> 01:55:04,960
Speaker 2: Bill Kracklenberger stay here, I'll Fox Sports Radio.

2570
01:55:05,000 --> 01:55:06,800
Speaker 3: But right now it's time for the.

2571
01:55:06,800 --> 01:55:08,440
Speaker 4: Play game with me.

2572
01:55:08,640 --> 01:55:11,520
Speaker 1: It's all your fault. No, it's your fault?

2573
01:55:11,920 --> 01:55:13,040
Speaker 3: Is it all your fault?

2574
01:55:16,480 --> 01:55:20,800
Speaker 1: Maybe it's everyone's faults. She's a liar. That's why there's

2575
01:55:20,840 --> 01:55:23,440
Speaker 1: the blame gate, the blame game. Let's figure out who

2576
01:55:23,480 --> 01:55:23,920
Speaker 1: to blame.

2577
01:55:24,560 --> 01:55:27,040
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, he's a liar. Let's go to ld little dumper.

2578
01:55:27,080 --> 01:55:28,240
Speaker 3: What do you got? All right?

2579
01:55:28,360 --> 01:55:31,360
Speaker 9: So I got one for us. So earlier in the week,

2580
01:55:31,640 --> 01:55:34,480
Speaker 9: the Miami Dolphins not only did they do one, but

2581
01:55:34,560 --> 01:55:36,400
Speaker 9: they did two trades. The first one was with the

2582
01:55:36,440 --> 01:55:39,080
Speaker 9: Steelers where they gave you know, John Us Smith and

2583
01:55:39,160 --> 01:55:44,280
Speaker 9: Jalen Ramsey. They got back Minka uh and some picks

2584
01:55:44,280 --> 01:55:46,040
Speaker 9: and all that good stuff. So that was one that

2585
01:55:46,120 --> 01:55:48,760
Speaker 9: was like, okay, kind of question. Well, then they do

2586
01:55:48,840 --> 01:55:52,680
Speaker 9: another one with the Giants and they traded some picks

2587
01:55:52,720 --> 01:55:56,360
Speaker 9: and stuff to go get rich hired tight end Darren Waller,

2588
01:55:56,400 --> 01:55:59,840
Speaker 9: who now unretired. Who are you blamed for in my

2589
01:56:00,040 --> 01:56:02,920
Speaker 9: amy for all this nonsense, Andy firm?

2590
01:56:03,000 --> 01:56:03,840
Speaker 1: You go first blame.

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01:56:04,120 --> 01:56:06,560
Speaker 2: I blame the Williams sisters because they're Paul owners of

2592
01:56:06,600 --> 01:56:08,720
Speaker 2: the Dolphins. They probably approved that. They probably had no

2593
01:56:08,760 --> 01:56:11,280
Speaker 2: idea who Darren Wooler is really, So I blame the

2594
01:56:11,320 --> 01:56:14,560
Speaker 2: Williams systems really at the they out of football.

2595
01:56:16,000 --> 01:56:19,080
Speaker 5: I blame might be Daniels in the organization because what

2596
01:56:19,080 --> 01:56:20,720
Speaker 5: they're trying to do is they're trying to change the

2597
01:56:20,760 --> 01:56:22,320
Speaker 5: culture in the locker room. And so some of the

2598
01:56:22,320 --> 01:56:24,480
Speaker 5: guys that we removed were guys that might have been

2599
01:56:24,560 --> 01:56:25,640
Speaker 5: culture disruptors.

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01:56:26,000 --> 01:56:27,520
Speaker 4: So they moved them out. And even though it was

2601
01:56:27,560 --> 01:56:28,520
Speaker 4: against popular.

2602
01:56:28,280 --> 01:56:30,680
Speaker 5: Opinion, they're trying to make the team better by having

2603
01:56:30,880 --> 01:56:32,200
Speaker 5: guys that are more cohesive.

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01:56:32,640 --> 01:56:34,120
Speaker 4: Uh in the locker room.

2605
01:56:34,640 --> 01:56:36,960
Speaker 3: Oh well, you know, blame the Williams systems, Serena.

2606
01:56:38,000 --> 01:56:42,720
Speaker 4: Uh No, I'm not gonna blame Genis. I blame you

2607
01:56:42,800 --> 01:56:43,600
Speaker 4: Andy for that.

2608
01:56:43,680 --> 01:56:45,960
Speaker 3: Serena just didn't like the guy. Maybe that's why.

2609
01:56:47,600 --> 01:56:51,640
Speaker 9: Well, perhaps, but perhaps another time. Next though, we got

2610
01:56:52,160 --> 01:56:56,320
Speaker 9: Guardians Pitcher. Luis Ortiz is the subject of a gambling investigation.

2611
01:56:56,840 --> 01:56:59,040
Speaker 3: How does this happen? And who do you blame?

2612
01:56:59,240 --> 01:57:02,320
Speaker 4: Bucky? Look, man, I blame the changing times.

2613
01:57:02,320 --> 01:57:04,560
Speaker 5: When the leagues decided to partner up with the gambling

2614
01:57:04,720 --> 01:57:07,240
Speaker 5: entities like this was ultimately going to make his way

2615
01:57:07,280 --> 01:57:09,680
Speaker 5: down to the players, and so look, we can blame

2616
01:57:09,680 --> 01:57:12,000
Speaker 5: the individual players, but the league got in bid with

2617
01:57:12,080 --> 01:57:14,440
Speaker 5: these gambling entities, which is why we're seeing more incidents

2618
01:57:14,480 --> 01:57:14,720
Speaker 5: like this.

2619
01:57:15,640 --> 01:57:17,840
Speaker 2: Well, look, if that's the case, I blame more people.

2620
01:57:17,840 --> 01:57:21,240
Speaker 2: I'll blame this Ortiz because he's an idiot. Okay, he

2621
01:57:21,280 --> 01:57:24,360
Speaker 2: has no self control, he's a moron. And the fact

2622
01:57:24,400 --> 01:57:26,160
Speaker 2: that the matter is he should be thrown out of baseball.

2623
01:57:26,640 --> 01:57:29,800
Speaker 3: Throw him out. It's his fault, he did it. Blame him,

2624
01:57:30,360 --> 01:57:32,440
Speaker 3: throw him out, all right?

2625
01:57:32,440 --> 01:57:36,320
Speaker 9: Well, next guys, the Jets have the longest playoff drought

2626
01:57:36,360 --> 01:57:37,200
Speaker 9: in pro sports.

2627
01:57:37,720 --> 01:57:38,640
Speaker 3: Who do you blame?

2628
01:57:38,760 --> 01:57:39,200
Speaker 1: Andy?

2629
01:57:39,560 --> 01:57:42,000
Speaker 2: You gotta blame Woody Johnson. He's the constant, he owns

2630
01:57:42,000 --> 01:57:44,320
Speaker 2: the team. And stop making the band aid and start

2631
01:57:44,400 --> 01:57:48,040
Speaker 2: working about your football team. Really, Johnson and Johnson terrible.

2632
01:57:48,040 --> 01:57:48,800
Speaker 2: It's embarrassing.

2633
01:57:50,880 --> 01:57:52,320
Speaker 4: I mean, look, it is embarrassing.

2634
01:57:52,880 --> 01:57:55,440
Speaker 5: Woody Johnson certainly has a big part of it because

2635
01:57:55,440 --> 01:57:57,640
Speaker 5: he says the culture from the top down. But there's

2636
01:57:57,640 --> 01:57:59,920
Speaker 5: so many people to blame, from general managers to here

2637
01:58:00,120 --> 01:58:01,000
Speaker 5: coaches to players.

2638
01:58:01,080 --> 01:58:03,320
Speaker 4: Everyone into just building is to play bump.

2639
01:58:05,240 --> 01:58:10,200
Speaker 9: Yes, yes, well we're gonna go from a bomb to

2640
01:58:10,320 --> 01:58:11,920
Speaker 9: someone who is definitely not a bum.

2641
01:58:12,000 --> 01:58:12,200
Speaker 4: Here.

2642
01:58:12,560 --> 01:58:18,160
Speaker 9: The salary for OKCS MVP thunder Shay Gelgas Alexander is

2643
01:58:18,200 --> 01:58:23,400
Speaker 9: a record seventy one mil for four years. That's pretty

2644
01:58:23,480 --> 01:58:27,440
Speaker 9: much eight what is that? Eight hundred and sixty eight

2645
01:58:27,440 --> 01:58:30,840
Speaker 9: thousand per game? Who do you who blame Bucky Brooks.

2646
01:58:31,760 --> 01:58:35,560
Speaker 5: Well, look, I blamed this new CBA. They created opportunities

2647
01:58:35,560 --> 01:58:37,600
Speaker 5: for those players to get paid. So I'm not mad

2648
01:58:37,640 --> 01:58:40,160
Speaker 5: at it. He earned it, he deserves it, So give

2649
01:58:40,240 --> 01:58:40,920
Speaker 5: him his bread.

2650
01:58:41,040 --> 01:58:41,880
Speaker 4: I'm arcade with it.

2651
01:58:42,920 --> 01:58:44,080
Speaker 3: Show him the money.

2652
01:58:44,440 --> 01:58:47,720
Speaker 2: But you know what, though this doesn't bode well for

2653
01:58:47,960 --> 01:58:51,680
Speaker 2: the league and for fans. Look, I think everybody in

2654
01:58:51,800 --> 01:58:54,400
Speaker 2: life should get as much as they can get. You know,

2655
01:58:54,480 --> 01:58:57,720
Speaker 2: there's a garbage strike now in Philadelphia. Give the garbage

2656
01:58:57,760 --> 01:59:00,840
Speaker 2: guys more money they disarve. It's no problem with people

2657
01:59:00,880 --> 01:59:03,640
Speaker 2: making more money. I just don't think it's fair for

2658
01:59:03,840 --> 01:59:06,920
Speaker 2: athletes to have their salaries spread all over the place.

2659
01:59:07,080 --> 01:59:08,800
Speaker 2: I don't know what the people at Fox Sports ready

2660
01:59:08,800 --> 01:59:10,160
Speaker 2: he'll make, and I don't really care.

2661
01:59:10,400 --> 01:59:11,160
Speaker 3: Sone of my business.

2662
01:59:11,240 --> 01:59:14,280
Speaker 2: I don't think there's anybody's business what SGA makes, that's

2663
01:59:14,320 --> 01:59:16,960
Speaker 2: all my thing. My take on that he's gonna make

2664
01:59:16,960 --> 01:59:20,000
Speaker 2: eight hundred and sixty eight thousand plus a game a game,

2665
01:59:20,040 --> 01:59:22,920
Speaker 2: all right, God bless him. Really, you know, if that's

2666
01:59:22,920 --> 01:59:24,920
Speaker 2: what he's gonna make, fine, I don't think we should

2667
01:59:24,960 --> 01:59:25,840
Speaker 2: have to know what he makes.

2668
01:59:26,040 --> 01:59:27,880
Speaker 3: Do you agree Buck on that? I don't think he

2669
01:59:27,880 --> 01:59:28,600
Speaker 3: should be public.

2670
01:59:29,480 --> 01:59:31,640
Speaker 4: I mean, I don't really care if it's public or not.

2671
01:59:31,760 --> 01:59:33,160
Speaker 5: Like that's what they were going to have to pay

2672
01:59:33,240 --> 01:59:34,839
Speaker 5: him when he got all the accolades.

2673
01:59:34,840 --> 01:59:38,040
Speaker 4: Anyone at CHIP gotta pay the man, all right.

2674
01:59:38,080 --> 01:59:42,120
Speaker 9: Well, final blame here, guys, and Travis Kelcey hinds at

2675
01:59:42,120 --> 01:59:45,440
Speaker 9: a broadcast career after the NFL. Is that fair to

2676
01:59:45,640 --> 01:59:49,520
Speaker 9: prospective media students looking for the same career? Who do

2677
01:59:49,600 --> 01:59:53,000
Speaker 9: you blame on that one, Bucky Well?

2678
01:59:53,040 --> 01:59:55,480
Speaker 5: I mean, I just blamed the changing dynamics when it

2679
01:59:55,520 --> 01:59:57,840
Speaker 5: comes to media, Like, journalism is in a weird spot.

2680
01:59:58,640 --> 02:00:01,440
Speaker 5: Hopefully we can figure it out. Everyone continues to respect

2681
02:00:01,480 --> 02:00:03,840
Speaker 5: the people that are doing it. But yeah, Travis Kelsey

2682
02:00:03,880 --> 02:00:04,960
Speaker 5: has an opinion he's okay with.

2683
02:00:05,920 --> 02:00:07,360
Speaker 3: Well, it's his opinion of this.

2684
02:00:07,440 --> 02:00:09,840
Speaker 2: If I was a journalism student or a mass communications

2685
02:00:09,840 --> 02:00:12,120
Speaker 2: major right now, I would try out for the football

2686
02:00:12,160 --> 02:00:13,760
Speaker 2: team because I have a better chance of getting a

2687
02:00:13,840 --> 02:00:16,200
Speaker 2: job than just being a major in communications.

2688
02:00:16,200 --> 02:00:17,400
Speaker 3: And I'd go to Jersey.

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02:00:17,120 --> 02:00:19,240
Speaker 2: Every day, put my name on the back, and go

2690
02:00:19,320 --> 02:00:21,240
Speaker 2: to the football coach and say, coach, here's the deal.

2691
02:00:21,520 --> 02:00:23,280
Speaker 2: Put me on the team. I don't care if I

2692
02:00:23,320 --> 02:00:25,560
Speaker 2: ever play, but just say I was on the roster.

2693
02:00:25,760 --> 02:00:27,360
Speaker 2: This way I could say I played the game and

2694
02:00:27,360 --> 02:00:29,480
Speaker 2: I get a shot at getting a job. Here we go,

2695
02:00:29,680 --> 02:00:32,560
Speaker 2: all right, Bucky, have a great week. I love you guys,

2696
02:00:32,640 --> 02:00:34,760
Speaker 2: actually working with you. Count Down his next day with

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02:00:34,840 --> 02:00:36,720
Speaker 2: us right here on Fox Sports Radio.