1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:03,760 Speaker 1: I always had a love for animals, specifically reptiles. So 2 00:00:04,200 --> 00:00:07,240 Speaker 1: I did my undergrad and zoology at the University of Calgary, 3 00:00:07,280 --> 00:00:10,600 Speaker 1: and then I moved to Africa and did a studying 4 00:00:10,680 --> 00:00:13,280 Speaker 1: chameleons and I was in a research station with doctors 5 00:00:13,320 --> 00:00:17,920 Speaker 1: without borders, and it was just daily work that I 6 00:00:18,040 --> 00:00:21,320 Speaker 1: saw these physicians doing, who are a dermatologist and an 7 00:00:21,320 --> 00:00:23,319 Speaker 1: infectious disease. And then then I came back and said 8 00:00:23,360 --> 00:00:25,640 Speaker 1: to my parents, I want to be a doctor. My 9 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:27,360 Speaker 1: parents are like, well, thank God. 10 00:00:27,840 --> 00:00:34,240 Speaker 2: Calm down with Erin and Carissa is a production of iHeartRadio. 11 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:38,559 Speaker 3: It is a big day for Aaron and I. 12 00:00:38,600 --> 00:00:42,239 Speaker 2: One of our favorite people in life, doctor Cindy Pfeiffer, 13 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:45,960 Speaker 2: is joining us today. A true professional joins the podcast 14 00:00:46,040 --> 00:00:49,879 Speaker 2: Ladies and Gentlemen. This woman, her resume goes on and 15 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 2: on and on, but to just simply put it, we 16 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 2: will ten years over ten years of experience as an 17 00:00:56,160 --> 00:01:00,800 Speaker 2: emergency room physician, also why urgency room physician, for the 18 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:05,160 Speaker 2: La Kings, the world of MMA, for boxing, and so 19 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:08,960 Speaker 2: much more. We rely on her for absolutely everything, texting 20 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 2: her at all hours of the night and day. She 21 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:14,640 Speaker 2: is an incredible human being. She really is she does 22 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:18,200 Speaker 2: it all way more than meets the eye. I love 23 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:20,920 Speaker 2: you so much, as does Aaron. You introduce me Erin, 24 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:23,399 Speaker 2: you introduced me to Cindy, and I'm forever grateful. So 25 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:26,639 Speaker 2: we are going to talk to you about everything today, Cindy, 26 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:29,040 Speaker 2: and we are so excited that you're joining us. Welcome 27 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:30,320 Speaker 2: to the Calm Down Podcast. 28 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 1: Well, thank you so much, And it is an absolute 29 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:34,880 Speaker 1: honor to be here with both of you. You know, 30 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 1: I adore and love you both, and I'm just in 31 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:41,040 Speaker 1: awe of your careers and what you both have done 32 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:43,800 Speaker 1: and just how humble and kind both of you are. 33 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:46,160 Speaker 1: So to be here is an honor. So thank you 34 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:47,160 Speaker 1: for that introduction. 35 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:49,920 Speaker 2: Well back at you, I have to say, you know 36 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 2: that one of the first questions I just wrote down 37 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:55,520 Speaker 2: for you. I got to know you from a mutual friend. 38 00:01:55,800 --> 00:01:58,040 Speaker 2: You're part of the King's family. I mean, not only 39 00:01:58,080 --> 00:02:00,960 Speaker 2: are you their trauma doctor, but you are also our 40 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 2: lifeline for everything. And I remember talking to one of 41 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 2: my good friends that her husband may may or may 42 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:10,359 Speaker 2: not be the captain of the Los Angeles Kings, and 43 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:13,680 Speaker 2: she just said, why have you not engaged or met 44 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:16,520 Speaker 2: or talked to doctor Cindy and the first time I 45 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:20,480 Speaker 2: ever worked and met with you was at the Kopatar's 46 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:24,200 Speaker 2: house and we had a great afternoon and we became 47 00:02:24,880 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 2: I guess, you know, the best of friends and family 48 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:31,400 Speaker 2: more importantly after that. But when I looked in that 49 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:34,400 Speaker 2: it said, you know, you've served since twenty fifteen the 50 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:37,640 Speaker 2: trauma doctor or the team emergency room physician for the 51 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:40,799 Speaker 2: La Kings. I also take great pride in that because 52 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 2: you are by the way of female. Do you know 53 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:45,959 Speaker 2: how many women hold that role in the NHL or 54 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:47,440 Speaker 2: maybe even pro sport. 55 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:50,400 Speaker 1: Equinn So that's a really good question. As of now, 56 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:53,400 Speaker 1: I don't know the exact number, but at the time 57 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:57,680 Speaker 1: there was not a female emergency room physician, so I 58 00:02:57,880 --> 00:03:00,520 Speaker 1: was one of the one of the first. But now 59 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:03,080 Speaker 1: there's definitely more. We have conferences that we go to 60 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 1: every year which is just amazing, where we meet with 61 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:08,639 Speaker 1: the athletic trainers from the NHL. We have all the 62 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:12,119 Speaker 1: team physicians being the orthopedic surgeons and the emergency room physicians, 63 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:15,800 Speaker 1: and you see definitely much more women there over the years, 64 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:19,200 Speaker 1: and I have to say, I'm so honored to have 65 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:22,280 Speaker 1: that position, to be able to be where I am, 66 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:27,079 Speaker 1: and I cannot thank the at least La King's community 67 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:31,360 Speaker 1: enough because they were so supportive and never ever once 68 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:33,680 Speaker 1: did I get pushedback for being a female. If anything, 69 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 1: it was the opposite and so supportive, and not just 70 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 1: by you know, the coaches or the trainers, but by 71 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 1: the players. You know you mentioned like the co patars, 72 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:48,680 Speaker 1: and I will never forget you know, just how humble 73 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:51,760 Speaker 1: our captain was when I came in and just open 74 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 1: arms and supportive and like, all right, this is our doctor. 75 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:58,400 Speaker 2: Here we go, you know, and you're a badass, and 76 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 2: and you know, it doesn't take long to fall in 77 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 2: love with you, obviously for your intellect, but your bedside 78 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 2: manner and who you are as a person. Obviously getting 79 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:10,760 Speaker 2: to know you over the last year. Really grateful for 80 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:12,280 Speaker 2: everything that you've done for me. Like I said, I 81 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:15,640 Speaker 2: will text you with things at all hours. Steve and 82 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:18,200 Speaker 2: I both will. Steve takes way too many liberties. I 83 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 2: need to monitor him with texting you. That said, we 84 00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:23,279 Speaker 2: wanted to have you on SIN because we love you. 85 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:26,400 Speaker 2: But also, Aaron and I talk a lot on this podcast. Obviously, 86 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:28,800 Speaker 2: yes about our jobs, but we also have a lot 87 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 2: of listeners, both female and men, and Aaron talks about, 88 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:35,320 Speaker 2: you know, we both have this, we're getting older. 89 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:37,159 Speaker 3: We want to make sure we take care of our health. 90 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:39,840 Speaker 2: And Erin obviously her journey and everything she's been through 91 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:43,320 Speaker 2: or you know, whether it's been infertility or with cervical 92 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:46,320 Speaker 2: cancer or anything there's been. There's so many listeners that 93 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:49,039 Speaker 2: you know, haven't had to go through those things, but 94 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:51,159 Speaker 2: want to make sure that they're taking care of their health. 95 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:53,680 Speaker 2: So we got a bunch of viewer questions and we'll 96 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:55,240 Speaker 2: get to those in a minute, but I kind of 97 00:04:55,279 --> 00:04:57,360 Speaker 2: want to back up and just sort of set the 98 00:04:57,400 --> 00:05:00,360 Speaker 2: table on on sort of where you and how you 99 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:05,120 Speaker 2: got to present day, you know, with your experience. So 100 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 2: why did you first and foremost want to become a doctor? 101 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:10,240 Speaker 3: I don't think I know this. 102 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 1: I didn't. 103 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:14,880 Speaker 3: I studied reptiles, that's right. 104 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:18,920 Speaker 2: And you have a lizard, right, I've. 105 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:24,240 Speaker 1: Got I have chameleons. So I loved animals. I grew 106 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:26,360 Speaker 1: up riding horses. I say, I'm a half breed. Grew 107 00:05:26,440 --> 00:05:29,200 Speaker 1: up in Los Angeles until I was about thirteen, and 108 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 1: then my parents moved to Canada and they're still theirs 109 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:34,760 Speaker 1: to Calgary, Alberta. So that's where my love of hockey 110 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 1: started really, you know, because my dad loved hockey and 111 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 1: as Canadians, you're born with skates, right, you have to scape. 112 00:05:40,760 --> 00:05:44,480 Speaker 1: But I always had a love for animals and specifically reptiles. 113 00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:47,960 Speaker 1: So I did my undergrad and zoology at the University 114 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:50,200 Speaker 1: of Calgary and then I moved to Africa and did 115 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:55,080 Speaker 1: a thesis studying chameleons. And I remember my parents going, 116 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:59,560 Speaker 1: what are you going to do like her patologists do, 117 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:02,360 Speaker 1: And no, it's not somebody who's genital herpes. Okay, that's 118 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:07,120 Speaker 1: not religious a study of reptiles. But when I was 119 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 1: in Africa, it was actually kind of a crazy time 120 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:13,600 Speaker 1: because President Mugabi I was in Zimbabwe, was in power 121 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:16,320 Speaker 1: and they were going to a presidential election. Well, the 122 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:19,080 Speaker 1: presidential election in Africa at that time is very different 123 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:21,880 Speaker 1: than what we're used to in the United States and 124 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:24,800 Speaker 1: quite dangerous, so the Peace Corps actually took us out 125 00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:29,320 Speaker 1: and because there was so much unrest that was going 126 00:06:29,360 --> 00:06:31,159 Speaker 1: on there and it was not considered safe to be 127 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:33,680 Speaker 1: there to do our research, and we went to Madagascar. 128 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:37,159 Speaker 1: And when I got placed in Madagascar, still studying chameleons, 129 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:40,239 Speaker 1: I was in a research station with doctors without borders, 130 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:43,200 Speaker 1: and I was there for six months with them, so 131 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:47,039 Speaker 1: we kind of all got restationed and it was just 132 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:51,720 Speaker 1: daily work that I saw these physicians doing who were 133 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 1: a dermatologist and an infectious disease and they said, do 134 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:56,960 Speaker 1: you want to help out? And so I started volunteering 135 00:06:56,960 --> 00:06:58,560 Speaker 1: with them. And then I came back and said to 136 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:01,360 Speaker 1: my parents, I want to be a doctor. My parents 137 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:03,560 Speaker 1: are like, well, thank God, because. 138 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:06,240 Speaker 3: Pay for that. 139 00:07:06,279 --> 00:07:09,000 Speaker 1: You're done, you know, So then I and that's where 140 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:11,520 Speaker 1: it really kind of stemmed down by because I didn't 141 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:13,760 Speaker 1: grow up with the family of physicians. So but to 142 00:07:13,840 --> 00:07:16,800 Speaker 1: be able to see these amazing physicians that had donated 143 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 1: their time, uh they were from Canada, but had donated 144 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:23,280 Speaker 1: their time and also took the time to teach me 145 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:26,600 Speaker 1: and a setting that kind of was a very stressful 146 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:29,680 Speaker 1: setting of this presidential election and being relocated to a 147 00:07:29,680 --> 00:07:33,320 Speaker 1: different part, but to meet such amazing people and be 148 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:36,560 Speaker 1: so intimate in that work environment and seeing what they did, 149 00:07:36,600 --> 00:07:39,200 Speaker 1: I was just I was in awe with it. So 150 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:43,400 Speaker 1: now I just take chameleons with me to when I 151 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:46,360 Speaker 1: go seek kids and I distract them with the chameleon 152 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:48,200 Speaker 1: to do Ivy so smart. 153 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:51,840 Speaker 3: Oh my god, I love that. I didn't know that. 154 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:54,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, so I did get the you know, the herpetology 155 00:07:54,880 --> 00:07:57,200 Speaker 1: reptile stuff back into place. So my parents at least 156 00:07:57,200 --> 00:08:01,520 Speaker 1: felt like their investment into studying local had some sort. 157 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:02,560 Speaker 3: Of full circle. 158 00:08:02,840 --> 00:08:03,000 Speaker 2: Yeah. 159 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 3: Yah. 160 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:07,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's an ignorant question coming from this one right here. 161 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:13,560 Speaker 3: Schooling total, How long did it take to get where 162 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 3: you are? 163 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 1: Four? Eight? 164 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:17,320 Speaker 3: How many years? 165 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 2: She's I heard four eight twelve, So we're think how 166 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:23,680 Speaker 2: many sixteen? 167 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 1: Yeah? Wow, you do four years of undergrad four years 168 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:31,240 Speaker 1: of medical school, and you've got four years of residency. 169 00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:34,440 Speaker 1: Then I did a fellowship, so it's yeah, it was 170 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:37,520 Speaker 1: a lot, a lot. 171 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:39,920 Speaker 2: You know. And you're I mean, amongst so many other things, 172 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:43,840 Speaker 2: but an emergency room doctor. And I know, I pepper 173 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:46,559 Speaker 2: you with questions because when you have one minute of 174 00:08:46,600 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 2: free time and you're, you know, helping administer an NAD 175 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:51,040 Speaker 2: for Aaron and I and we're sitting there, I'm like, 176 00:08:51,400 --> 00:08:53,560 Speaker 2: I'm complaining because I have a blister on my hand, 177 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:56,040 Speaker 2: and you're like saving lives during your day. 178 00:08:56,120 --> 00:08:59,079 Speaker 3: I mean, what your typical day looks like is not. 179 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:03,280 Speaker 2: Typical, right, It's a typical, and every single day is different. 180 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:07,360 Speaker 2: What for you over the last I don't know, five years, 181 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:10,520 Speaker 2: even a decade, just in terms of medicine has changed 182 00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:13,880 Speaker 2: the most from your purview and your vantage point in 183 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:14,880 Speaker 2: the emergency room. 184 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:18,920 Speaker 1: Oh, I think that's a very good question. And the 185 00:09:18,960 --> 00:09:22,120 Speaker 1: first thing that really comes to my mind is being 186 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:25,800 Speaker 1: a physician in the time of social media. And by 187 00:09:26,040 --> 00:09:29,319 Speaker 1: that I mean I now have patients that will a 188 00:09:29,360 --> 00:09:31,680 Speaker 1: lot of times come in and tell me what they 189 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:35,960 Speaker 1: have and they feel that they have become experts in 190 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:39,080 Speaker 1: this or their friends have given them this information and 191 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:43,400 Speaker 1: they'll chat ept something, or they'll learn something off of TikTok, 192 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:46,319 Speaker 1: or they'll do some stupid hit off of TikTok. 193 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:48,400 Speaker 2: Aaron's raising her hands for those of you that are 194 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:49,559 Speaker 2: just listening to the podcast. 195 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:51,240 Speaker 3: I tell her what my ailment is. 196 00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:53,480 Speaker 2: I'm like, hey, I think I have a little post 197 00:09:53,559 --> 00:09:56,120 Speaker 2: nasal drip that has turned into my room. 198 00:09:56,720 --> 00:09:59,080 Speaker 3: But let me know what you think. 199 00:09:59,559 --> 00:10:03,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, well, you know it's so that's been I 200 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:08,560 Speaker 1: would say one of the most interesting aspects to deal 201 00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:11,760 Speaker 1: with in the change of medicine because you know, when 202 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:14,120 Speaker 1: I can when I was in medical so you know, 203 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:18,840 Speaker 1: twenty some years ago, so that we didn't have social media, 204 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:22,200 Speaker 1: and so and there's just social media. I mean it's 205 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:26,320 Speaker 1: you know, by the means that people can get information. 206 00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:29,640 Speaker 1: Now everybody on there is either in the biohacking or 207 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:32,880 Speaker 1: they seem like a physician, or you listen to them 208 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:34,560 Speaker 1: and you're like, oh my god, they sound amazing, and 209 00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:36,839 Speaker 1: then you go and look and as a physician, I'll 210 00:10:36,840 --> 00:10:39,440 Speaker 1: do my own review and they have absolutely no medical background, 211 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:42,200 Speaker 1: but they sound great, you know. So I think that's 212 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:45,320 Speaker 1: the thing is trying to navigate and deal with my 213 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:50,760 Speaker 1: patients by helping them realize what is important, what is 214 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:53,200 Speaker 1: not important, what's truthful, what's not trulent, Also to be honest, 215 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:56,960 Speaker 1: gaining my trust. You know, in the emergency room, you 216 00:10:57,000 --> 00:10:59,440 Speaker 1: don't have the choice of who's your doctor, right you 217 00:10:59,559 --> 00:11:02,480 Speaker 1: come in. It's you don't come in feel well, You're like, hey, 218 00:11:02,520 --> 00:11:02,880 Speaker 1: I'm having. 219 00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:03,160 Speaker 3: A great day. 220 00:11:03,200 --> 00:11:06,200 Speaker 1: I'm going to go to the emergency now because you've 221 00:11:06,200 --> 00:11:09,840 Speaker 1: been shot, you've been slabbed, you know, you're bleeding out, 222 00:11:09,960 --> 00:11:11,199 Speaker 1: you fell, you hit your head. 223 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:15,680 Speaker 3: It's not you don't come in because you're happy, Yeah, on. 224 00:11:15,679 --> 00:11:17,600 Speaker 1: Drugs or something. Then that's a different situation. 225 00:11:17,960 --> 00:11:21,559 Speaker 3: Yeah, which we also know that contingent of people. 226 00:11:22,120 --> 00:11:34,559 Speaker 2: Yeah, nad's peptides. They are a hot topic, especially when 227 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:37,280 Speaker 2: we live out here in Los Angeles. I feel like 228 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:41,040 Speaker 2: the second you read that Jennifer Aniston's doing something, it's like, Okay, 229 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:41,960 Speaker 2: how do I get this? 230 00:11:42,120 --> 00:11:42,760 Speaker 3: What do I do? 231 00:11:43,280 --> 00:11:45,920 Speaker 2: And that's been a huge conversation that we've had with you. 232 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:48,520 Speaker 2: Krista and I both do nad's. First, let's get to 233 00:11:48,520 --> 00:11:50,760 Speaker 2: the peptides, because I was just with a couple of 234 00:11:50,760 --> 00:11:52,120 Speaker 2: girls that were like, I got. 235 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:52,880 Speaker 3: To get on peptides. 236 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:56,240 Speaker 2: First of all, when should you start taking them? When 237 00:11:56,240 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 2: do you advise that? Like how old do you have 238 00:11:59,920 --> 00:12:00,800 Speaker 2: to be? Man? Woman? 239 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:02,160 Speaker 3: Like what you tell us? 240 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:06,960 Speaker 1: Yes, so you know peptides. Uh, in terms of the 241 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:10,240 Speaker 1: age of when to start, there's not an answer. If 242 00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:14,040 Speaker 1: there's not, it really is man or woman both can 243 00:12:14,080 --> 00:12:18,360 Speaker 1: take it and children take it adolescence. Sure, yes, but 244 00:12:18,520 --> 00:12:21,440 Speaker 1: why are you taking the peptides? That's the most important 245 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:23,800 Speaker 1: thing because there's so many peptides that are out there. 246 00:12:24,200 --> 00:12:26,840 Speaker 1: There's so much information that people can get on these peptides. 247 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:30,800 Speaker 1: Sometimes it's overwhelming because you're like, well, there's like a 248 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:32,440 Speaker 1: list now of fifty peptides I want to. 249 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:35,200 Speaker 3: Take You're like, no, no, no, let's see want them all? 250 00:12:35,840 --> 00:12:38,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, one of them all, you know, And and they 251 00:12:38,600 --> 00:12:40,880 Speaker 1: sound amazing. And you listen to these people and they 252 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:43,520 Speaker 1: say just the way that they're presenting these peptides on 253 00:12:43,559 --> 00:12:46,120 Speaker 1: whatever social media platform you're looking at or wherever you're 254 00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:48,040 Speaker 1: hearing it from or whatever. Mets ball, You're like. 255 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:49,240 Speaker 3: They're in on this podcast. 256 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:53,880 Speaker 2: You're great, say he's got me on this peptide, this peptide, 257 00:12:54,120 --> 00:12:55,960 Speaker 2: and I'll be like, wait, what I need to be 258 00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:58,360 Speaker 2: on this? And then the listener's like, wait, what peptide 259 00:12:58,360 --> 00:13:00,600 Speaker 2: are we talking about? So, yeah, PEPTI I'd one on 260 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:00,960 Speaker 2: one go. 261 00:13:01,240 --> 00:13:03,439 Speaker 1: What I will say in terms of if I could 262 00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:06,160 Speaker 1: give like a general kind of idea of when to start. 263 00:13:06,520 --> 00:13:08,800 Speaker 1: I don't really feel if the peptides are something you 264 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:11,160 Speaker 1: need to take when you're in your twenties, you know. 265 00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:14,720 Speaker 1: I'd say kind of early thirties, when you start to 266 00:13:14,800 --> 00:13:17,600 Speaker 1: feel your body changed, when you start to notice that 267 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:21,960 Speaker 1: you're a little bit more tired as you get older 268 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:23,920 Speaker 1: and older, meaning kind of I don't want to say 269 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:28,400 Speaker 1: thirties old because Aaron and I we're not thirty anymore. Yeah, 270 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 1: but it's when you start to notice the changes in 271 00:13:31,800 --> 00:13:35,400 Speaker 1: your body, because everybody's a little different. But most of 272 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:38,600 Speaker 1: the time, when we talk about say nads or peptides, 273 00:13:38,920 --> 00:13:41,000 Speaker 1: you go on them because of the fact that your 274 00:13:41,080 --> 00:13:43,920 Speaker 1: body is not making what it needs to make at 275 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:47,160 Speaker 1: the level that it needs to make. It why, because 276 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:50,160 Speaker 1: we start to age and as we age, you don't 277 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:54,079 Speaker 1: make as much of it. So on average, about twenty 278 00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:57,000 Speaker 1: five is when you start to decrease those levels of 279 00:13:57,040 --> 00:13:59,280 Speaker 1: say the NAD that's naturally in your body. 280 00:13:59,480 --> 00:14:00,560 Speaker 3: And what is nad? 281 00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:05,280 Speaker 2: Oh? Okay Layman's terms, Since I will have no idea 282 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:07,280 Speaker 2: what you're talking about, Like, I just I just I 283 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:09,120 Speaker 2: do them because you tell me that it's good for me. 284 00:14:09,280 --> 00:14:11,360 Speaker 2: I just do whatever you tell me to do. But 285 00:14:11,520 --> 00:14:13,720 Speaker 2: if the listener out there is like, wait, what is 286 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:14,280 Speaker 2: an NAD? 287 00:14:14,640 --> 00:14:16,640 Speaker 3: Right, so I can't answer that, yes. 288 00:14:16,679 --> 00:14:20,000 Speaker 1: Or nicotinamine out a nine DI nucleotide will go Layman's 289 00:14:20,120 --> 00:14:22,840 Speaker 1: NAD sounds so much easier, right, So. 290 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:28,600 Speaker 3: It's a coenzi, Yeah. 291 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:34,760 Speaker 1: Nicotinamine out an nucleotide. But what this is is it's 292 00:14:34,800 --> 00:14:37,840 Speaker 1: a coenzyme in our body. So basically it means it 293 00:14:37,920 --> 00:14:41,440 Speaker 1: is utilized in every single cell. Okay, our body runs 294 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:44,960 Speaker 1: on one currency, and it's called ATP. That's a dentistine 295 00:14:44,960 --> 00:14:48,240 Speaker 1: triphosphate that we need to survive. You do not have ATP, 296 00:14:48,440 --> 00:14:51,960 Speaker 1: you will be dead. Everybody has ATP. Okay, okay, But 297 00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:56,680 Speaker 1: as what happens is the mitochondria, which are inside our cell, 298 00:14:56,880 --> 00:14:59,800 Speaker 1: they make this ATP, they print it out and so. 299 00:15:00,360 --> 00:15:03,720 Speaker 1: But NAD is the boss of mitochondria. So if we 300 00:15:03,760 --> 00:15:07,320 Speaker 1: don't have NAD telling the mitochondria to make the ATP, 301 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:11,360 Speaker 1: this is Layman's terms, then we're going to have some issues. 302 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:13,800 Speaker 1: And you're just start to feel the issues because NAD 303 00:15:13,960 --> 00:15:16,560 Speaker 1: is used in pretty much every single cellular process in 304 00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:17,360 Speaker 1: the body. 305 00:15:17,240 --> 00:15:18,360 Speaker 3: From head to two. 306 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:22,440 Speaker 1: So when people say, okay, all of a sudden, I'm 307 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:27,160 Speaker 1: getting sick more, well, okay, your immune system, we need 308 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:30,200 Speaker 1: a lot of energy to fight off infection. Those immune 309 00:15:30,200 --> 00:15:33,520 Speaker 1: cells are working over time. They need to make pathogens 310 00:15:33,520 --> 00:15:36,120 Speaker 1: and antibodies to fight off that disease. Well, what do 311 00:15:36,160 --> 00:15:38,840 Speaker 1: you need. You need energy? You need NAD to make 312 00:15:38,880 --> 00:15:41,480 Speaker 1: the ATP. You start to see maybe you're getting a 313 00:15:41,480 --> 00:15:44,960 Speaker 1: little bit of belly fat, you're not losing weight the 314 00:15:44,960 --> 00:15:48,280 Speaker 1: way you used to, or you're putting more well, deliver 315 00:15:48,800 --> 00:15:50,880 Speaker 1: it's storing more fat because it doesn't have the energy 316 00:15:50,880 --> 00:15:52,480 Speaker 1: to break it down the way that it used to. 317 00:15:52,760 --> 00:15:54,880 Speaker 1: It outs back, Well, what do you need? You need 318 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:58,480 Speaker 1: NAD to help to make the ATP. You know, you 319 00:15:58,520 --> 00:16:00,960 Speaker 1: talk about brain fog. A lot of people like, why 320 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:02,720 Speaker 1: am I just more tired? I don't feel like I'm 321 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:05,680 Speaker 1: just like I can't think as quickly as I used to, 322 00:16:06,280 --> 00:16:10,400 Speaker 1: I'm more sleepy. Well, listen, brain fog a lot of 323 00:16:10,440 --> 00:16:15,040 Speaker 1: times can be from the lack of NAD because what 324 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:18,200 Speaker 1: we're doing is your neurons in your brain. Your brain 325 00:16:18,320 --> 00:16:21,400 Speaker 1: uses so much energy to function as it should on 326 00:16:21,440 --> 00:16:24,000 Speaker 1: a daily basis, but it's a little selfish and it 327 00:16:24,040 --> 00:16:26,760 Speaker 1: takes a lot of NAD. So those neurons are firing firing, 328 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:29,480 Speaker 1: and in order to do that, they need energy. They 329 00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:30,800 Speaker 1: need an AD they need ATP. 330 00:16:31,080 --> 00:16:32,160 Speaker 3: This is so good. 331 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:35,200 Speaker 2: I love hearing this. Yeah, I know because Aaron and 332 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:37,400 Speaker 2: I are just like just giving it to me. Yeah, 333 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:41,840 Speaker 2: I think, yeah, But I think that that's the part 334 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:45,760 Speaker 2: where I you know again, because our listeners are very 335 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:48,160 Speaker 2: much like we are, where it's like we want these things. 336 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 3: We just sometimes it feels overwhelming. 337 00:16:50,680 --> 00:16:53,800 Speaker 2: In an industry, beauty's like that right where it's like, well, 338 00:16:53,840 --> 00:16:56,040 Speaker 2: I don't know which night cream to use because there's 339 00:16:56,040 --> 00:16:58,680 Speaker 2: seven hundred of them so very similar in terms of 340 00:16:58,720 --> 00:17:01,600 Speaker 2: like health and illness and stuff like that. There's such 341 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:04,200 Speaker 2: an emphasis on it, but you get overwhelmed and you 342 00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:07,159 Speaker 2: don't know what to do. So if somebody listening, like, 343 00:17:07,200 --> 00:17:09,919 Speaker 2: we're lucky enough to have you administer an AD's for us, 344 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:13,480 Speaker 2: but is it something like that you could suggest where okay, 345 00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:16,639 Speaker 2: start on an oral one or get intervenously or what 346 00:17:16,680 --> 00:17:18,639 Speaker 2: would your suggestion start? 347 00:17:18,840 --> 00:17:22,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, oral, that's like that is. 348 00:17:22,600 --> 00:17:26,720 Speaker 1: One of my biggest things that I can say that 349 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:30,200 Speaker 1: when I am in a store, I see something more 350 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:32,679 Speaker 1: in a health store, or I see somebody come and 351 00:17:32,720 --> 00:17:35,680 Speaker 1: ask me about this in a d pill because it's 352 00:17:35,800 --> 00:17:39,879 Speaker 1: cheaper for sure, and they're trying to because NAD is not. 353 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:42,960 Speaker 1: It's not cheap. A lot of times these things are expensive, right, Yeah, 354 00:17:43,160 --> 00:17:47,800 Speaker 1: And so it's health, it really is. But I also say, 355 00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:50,919 Speaker 1: at the same time, we got to look at what 356 00:17:51,040 --> 00:17:54,600 Speaker 1: is the price of disease because once you get sick 357 00:17:54,640 --> 00:17:56,960 Speaker 1: with disease, let me tell you, that's a hell of 358 00:17:57,000 --> 00:18:00,920 Speaker 1: a lot more, not just financially, but mental and physically. 359 00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:03,720 Speaker 1: So if you have the ability to say, where can 360 00:18:03,760 --> 00:18:06,600 Speaker 1: I invest some of my time and money. Let's go 361 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:08,960 Speaker 1: down prevention and make yourself feel better, because there is 362 00:18:09,040 --> 00:18:11,800 Speaker 1: nothing that is going to give you a better price 363 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:14,800 Speaker 1: tag than your health and being able to live a healthy, 364 00:18:14,840 --> 00:18:17,560 Speaker 1: happy life and being able to function and get up 365 00:18:17,560 --> 00:18:21,840 Speaker 1: from a chair when you're sixty years of age. But 366 00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:27,159 Speaker 1: the oral NADS, there is no bio availability. What do 367 00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:29,840 Speaker 1: I mean. It doesn't get metabolized, It gets just just 368 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:32,119 Speaker 1: it goes in through your gut and you don't absorb it, 369 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:34,320 Speaker 1: so it's not doing what it's meant to do. You're 370 00:18:34,359 --> 00:18:36,280 Speaker 1: not going to get the benefits of NAD from a 371 00:18:36,320 --> 00:18:38,800 Speaker 1: pill form, and they are many out there. It's just 372 00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:40,800 Speaker 1: a waste of time. It's a waste of money. Please 373 00:18:40,840 --> 00:18:45,160 Speaker 1: don't buy that. When to use it, or sorry to say, 374 00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:50,199 Speaker 1: how to use it is intravenously through an iv or subcutaneous, 375 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:53,560 Speaker 1: so it's like an injection with a small insolence syringe, 376 00:18:53,760 --> 00:18:55,600 Speaker 1: and a lot of people have a little you know, 377 00:18:55,800 --> 00:18:58,080 Speaker 1: stand office from that in the beginning, but once they 378 00:18:58,280 --> 00:19:00,760 Speaker 1: are taught how to properly do that and also see 379 00:19:00,800 --> 00:19:03,840 Speaker 1: the benefits of it, they're like, all right, I got. 380 00:19:05,240 --> 00:19:05,919 Speaker 3: All of a sudden. 381 00:19:06,040 --> 00:19:10,159 Speaker 2: Yeah, And how often should someone you know get an 382 00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:14,160 Speaker 2: NAD interveniously or through the you know, their own injection. 383 00:19:14,600 --> 00:19:18,600 Speaker 1: So those it's really patient dependent, okay, And that's the thing. 384 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:21,240 Speaker 1: So there's That's another thing is when you go to 385 00:19:21,240 --> 00:19:23,119 Speaker 1: a lot of these places and it might just be 386 00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:25,120 Speaker 1: they're trying to make money. So you should go once 387 00:19:25,119 --> 00:19:27,359 Speaker 1: a day for five days, or you should go why 388 00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:29,640 Speaker 1: you should come twice a week, you should come once 389 00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:33,879 Speaker 1: a month. Use your body as your source. What are 390 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:37,240 Speaker 1: you feeling If you start to feel you're becoming more tired, 391 00:19:37,240 --> 00:19:39,399 Speaker 1: because you'll feel the NAD. You feel it do what 392 00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:41,280 Speaker 1: it's supposed to do. It gives you energy. It also 393 00:19:41,359 --> 00:19:44,240 Speaker 1: gives you better workouts because why when we work out muscles, 394 00:19:44,440 --> 00:19:47,439 Speaker 1: they take energy and when we have to recover, if 395 00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:49,840 Speaker 1: we don't have enough energy and ATP to do that 396 00:19:50,280 --> 00:19:53,119 Speaker 1: and NAD, you start to see that you might become 397 00:19:53,119 --> 00:19:55,320 Speaker 1: more sore after a workout, So your workouts are going 398 00:19:55,359 --> 00:19:58,600 Speaker 1: to be better. But use your body as your guidance. 399 00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:01,640 Speaker 1: There is no there There is not a single thing 400 00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:04,040 Speaker 1: out there that says when I say thing, I mean 401 00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:06,919 Speaker 1: study that is out there that says how often you 402 00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:10,400 Speaker 1: should take it? Of a standard scale. I really say, 403 00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:13,240 Speaker 1: for each of my patients, let's just see how you feel. 404 00:20:13,400 --> 00:20:15,480 Speaker 1: If you're like I am sick, I am tired, I 405 00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:17,439 Speaker 1: am exhausted, I have a lot going on. You just 406 00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:20,600 Speaker 1: ran a marathon. Well, you've used more NAD, so then 407 00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:24,040 Speaker 1: maybe you need to refeel on it. So okay, I 408 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:28,400 Speaker 1: wouldn't say do there's this one set timeframe, use how 409 00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:29,000 Speaker 1: you feel. 410 00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:32,320 Speaker 3: Love that and that's true for a lot of things. Yeah, totally. 411 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:43,040 Speaker 2: Hey, so one thing that Chris said, Well, Chris I 412 00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:45,080 Speaker 2: feel like does a better job in getting sleep. 413 00:20:45,119 --> 00:20:47,280 Speaker 3: It's harder for her during. 414 00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:49,639 Speaker 2: This season because she's in two different places when she 415 00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:51,440 Speaker 2: has to do Thursday night football and then come back 416 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:56,080 Speaker 2: for Sunday. Cindy, I know your hours are insane. There's 417 00:20:56,320 --> 00:20:59,320 Speaker 2: the whole conversation about nothing does your body better than 418 00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:03,239 Speaker 2: sleep eight hours. I'm not getting it. But the men 419 00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:05,240 Speaker 2: you have a child, I know, but I also have 420 00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:07,360 Speaker 2: a husband that snores in a Golden Retriever, that. 421 00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:08,920 Speaker 3: Has stomach issues all last night. 422 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:12,240 Speaker 2: So we're crushing it over here. The truth behind needing 423 00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:14,280 Speaker 2: eight hours of sleep every night. I know it does 424 00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:15,400 Speaker 2: your face some good. 425 00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:19,920 Speaker 1: But okay, so hard, it's very hard, and I think 426 00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:22,560 Speaker 1: all three of us on this would we have to 427 00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:24,719 Speaker 1: all admit we don't get that eight hours on our 428 00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:30,280 Speaker 1: collar basis. There's no way. But that being said, in 429 00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:33,879 Speaker 1: terms of getting a quantifiable number saying eight hours, six hours, 430 00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:37,600 Speaker 1: four hours, I don't think that's as important as getting 431 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:41,600 Speaker 1: that sleep. You do need some form of sleep. There's 432 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:46,360 Speaker 1: nothing more important than getting sleep, because well, I shouldn't say. 433 00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:49,080 Speaker 1: There's a few things that I think are combination together 434 00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:51,919 Speaker 1: of importance, but with respect to sleep, that is the 435 00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:54,040 Speaker 1: time for your body to reset. That is when you 436 00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:56,959 Speaker 1: really serve hormone, one of them being the growth hormone. 437 00:21:57,080 --> 00:21:59,679 Speaker 1: And that is a lot of aspects in the body 438 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:03,040 Speaker 1: from a metaball or hormonal standpoint. So a lot of 439 00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:06,080 Speaker 1: times when we're not getting sleep, well, we're messing up 440 00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:09,000 Speaker 1: the hormonal system in our body and we're not allowing 441 00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:11,879 Speaker 1: ourselves to have that reset period. And I am so 442 00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:15,400 Speaker 1: guilty of that. But what I get you out saving lives? 443 00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:21,320 Speaker 1: What about your own? You're answering Steve's text? 444 00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:28,840 Speaker 3: I mean, my God, like, we all. 445 00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:31,480 Speaker 1: Go through life, right, and if you could get eight 446 00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:35,159 Speaker 1: hours of sleep uninterrupted every single night and whatever, whoop 447 00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:37,520 Speaker 1: map you have, or or a ring tells you like 448 00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:42,440 Speaker 1: I'm jealous. That's amazing. But in reality, we all have 449 00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:45,040 Speaker 1: some things that come up in life no matter what 450 00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:48,280 Speaker 1: we do, whether it's some a family member that's sick 451 00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:51,239 Speaker 1: or somebody that had just died, or do you have 452 00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:54,919 Speaker 1: a baby, or you know, you had a car crash 453 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:57,320 Speaker 1: and now you have no vehicle and whatever. It is 454 00:22:57,800 --> 00:22:59,879 Speaker 1: like I'm not sleeping, I'm stressed, I'm not getting them. 455 00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:03,399 Speaker 1: What I say to my patients is, Okay, this is 456 00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:06,240 Speaker 1: your reality, this is your world right now, so let's 457 00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:08,639 Speaker 1: deal with what we got. If you can't get that 458 00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:12,040 Speaker 1: eight hours of sleep, we need to compensate and get 459 00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:17,399 Speaker 1: your body back into a good equilibrium and do everything 460 00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:19,720 Speaker 1: else we can to compensate for that lack of sleep. 461 00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:23,520 Speaker 1: Because there's no way anybody in this world is perfect 462 00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:26,760 Speaker 1: in what they do and how they give their body 463 00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:30,359 Speaker 1: the best health, the best longevity, the best health span. 464 00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:32,640 Speaker 1: We're all going to have obstacles in life. So it's 465 00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:37,240 Speaker 1: compensating and trying to find ways other ways to make 466 00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:39,640 Speaker 1: up for that lack of sleep. But sleep is important. 467 00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:42,359 Speaker 1: I could not stress that enough. 468 00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:45,600 Speaker 2: Along that same line, so yeah, we all know that 469 00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:49,000 Speaker 2: sleep is important and that's free, right, So is there 470 00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:52,200 Speaker 2: And maybe it's a difficult question because there's so many 471 00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:54,280 Speaker 2: things you could include in this list. But if someone 472 00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:59,040 Speaker 2: me is asking you, I'm a very let's say off 473 00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:02,639 Speaker 2: the street, I meet you to and I say, doctor Cindy, I, 474 00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:05,160 Speaker 2: you know, don't have a ton of money to pay 475 00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:07,520 Speaker 2: for health. I don't have all these different things. But 476 00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:10,240 Speaker 2: what are three to five things that I can do 477 00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:13,679 Speaker 2: that are good for me that I can, you know, 478 00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:17,480 Speaker 2: try to live a healthier lifestyle if I don't financially 479 00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:20,640 Speaker 2: have access to the peptides or the nads or those 480 00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:23,200 Speaker 2: other things that you know, maybe some other people do. 481 00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:27,520 Speaker 1: I think that's an amazing question because the answer is 482 00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:31,919 Speaker 1: actually free and one I would say the most important 483 00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:36,040 Speaker 1: thing is exercise. Doing some form of daily exercise. There's 484 00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:38,359 Speaker 1: nothing that's more important than exercise. And you don't have 485 00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:41,280 Speaker 1: to go run a marathon, but I just mean intentionally 486 00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:43,560 Speaker 1: moving the body. Whether you're going to have one day 487 00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:45,680 Speaker 1: of strength training, one day of a little cardio, or 488 00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:48,360 Speaker 1: one day of just getting outside and walking, you need 489 00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:52,160 Speaker 1: to exercise. That is the best form of longevity. There's 490 00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:54,920 Speaker 1: no medicine that is going to be better for you 491 00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:59,600 Speaker 1: than exercise. It is one of the longest predictors of 492 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:04,320 Speaker 1: your lifespan is something called your VO two max. And 493 00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:08,520 Speaker 1: that is something It's not cholesterol, it's not what your 494 00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:12,160 Speaker 1: glucose level is or what your blood pressure is. It's 495 00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:16,480 Speaker 1: literally looking at how our body utilizes oxygen in the 496 00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:19,320 Speaker 1: terms of exercise, and if you have a higher VO 497 00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:24,000 Speaker 1: two max, that says your lifespan is going to be 498 00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:26,680 Speaker 1: so much longer. And that's what you want to work for, 499 00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:31,560 Speaker 1: and how do we get that exercise? And so that's free. 500 00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:35,159 Speaker 1: That's one thing. The other thing every day is yes, sleep, 501 00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:37,600 Speaker 1: so trying to get it at some point that's also 502 00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:41,920 Speaker 1: free reset. And I would say three with that would 503 00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:46,000 Speaker 1: be watching your blood gluecose level and not necessarily saying 504 00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:49,920 Speaker 1: by pricking your finger, by watching what you put in 505 00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:55,720 Speaker 1: your mouth. In terms of food, because sugar feeds disease. 506 00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:59,680 Speaker 1: So if you were eating a significant amount of sugar 507 00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:04,960 Speaker 1: and natural carbohydrate sugars from fruits and vegetables, I'm talking 508 00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:10,720 Speaker 1: about candies, cocktails with sugar in it, you're eating Yeah, 509 00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:17,040 Speaker 1: I said, okay. 510 00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:18,800 Speaker 2: Which is every cocktail, isn't it? But glasses, sequila and 511 00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:23,520 Speaker 2: water with a line that I can't. 512 00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:25,960 Speaker 3: On a wine cake. 513 00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:28,320 Speaker 1: I know. Like, but if you're gonna drink, I'm like, 514 00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:30,800 Speaker 1: there's there's drinks like if you're gonna go and get yeah, 515 00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:32,560 Speaker 1: we're all gonna have them. But you have your margarita 516 00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:34,159 Speaker 1: or whatever. There's a signific amount of sugar in there. 517 00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:35,840 Speaker 1: But you're gonna drink like you said, here, I have 518 00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:39,000 Speaker 1: tequila with soda or vodka with soda, and you don't 519 00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:40,800 Speaker 1: have that high sugar content in there. 520 00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:43,320 Speaker 3: Well, hey, that's a much healthier choice of you. 521 00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:44,200 Speaker 2: Yeah. 522 00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:48,360 Speaker 1: Right. So I don't think people realize that what you 523 00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:52,959 Speaker 1: eat is a huge contributor to the disease. And single 524 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:56,000 Speaker 1: food ingredients they're so important. You know, we go to 525 00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:58,440 Speaker 1: the store and we buy things and it's like you 526 00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:00,600 Speaker 1: look at a box of cereal, for example, and you think, oh, 527 00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:03,760 Speaker 1: this isn't ourn cereal. It's really good. Look at the 528 00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:06,119 Speaker 1: ingredients in that and when don't tell you sugar is 529 00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:08,439 Speaker 1: going to be number one. It's up there more so 530 00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:12,920 Speaker 1: than your whatever else. You're thinking, that's healthy, that's in there, 531 00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:14,919 Speaker 1: and that's and so that's why I'm saying, if you 532 00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:19,440 Speaker 1: can do these three things of exercise, sleep and controlling 533 00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:23,280 Speaker 1: what you eat, watching that sugar content that and doing 534 00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:27,000 Speaker 1: it consistently, not just do this for one day. This 535 00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:30,320 Speaker 1: is something that you need to be consistent. Those three 536 00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:33,480 Speaker 1: things will set you up for the best health that 537 00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:36,040 Speaker 1: you could be and prevention of disease more so than 538 00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:36,680 Speaker 1: anything else. 539 00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:37,600 Speaker 3: Amazing. 540 00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:40,560 Speaker 2: Okay, that is so helpful because we all know that 541 00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:42,920 Speaker 2: those things are important. But when you when you say 542 00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:45,800 Speaker 2: number one is exercise, like that wakes me up. It's 543 00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:47,440 Speaker 2: not you know, I thought you were gonna be like water, 544 00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:49,920 Speaker 2: and I'm like, okay, I can water. Like, yes, water 545 00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:52,040 Speaker 2: is important, but maybe that's lower on the land. So 546 00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:54,159 Speaker 2: number one is exercise, Okay, I. 547 00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:56,480 Speaker 1: Couldn't think of anything more important for your body. 548 00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:57,280 Speaker 3: Amazing. 549 00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:00,560 Speaker 2: What happens if you're like not getting enough sleep because 550 00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:02,440 Speaker 2: you're making yourself get up to exercise. 551 00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:04,480 Speaker 3: Here we go. 552 00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:11,360 Speaker 1: Exercise, by. 553 00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:12,600 Speaker 3: Oh my god. 554 00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:15,800 Speaker 1: That's but it's those are things that I think sometimes 555 00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:19,000 Speaker 1: in medicine, we especially as medical doctors, we're always like, 556 00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:21,160 Speaker 1: here's a pill. We're blood pressures high. Take this pill. 557 00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:25,600 Speaker 1: You have diabetes. Okay, great, let's put you on very 558 00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:29,760 Speaker 1: old school. It's just it's so it's so wrong to 559 00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:31,920 Speaker 1: me because you know what in medicine. I will tell 560 00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:34,840 Speaker 1: you this, all those years of schooling, all those years 561 00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:38,200 Speaker 1: that I spent in a classroom, under books and learning 562 00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:42,360 Speaker 1: from amazing professors, I did not learn a single thing 563 00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:47,440 Speaker 1: about nutrition. Really, I don't learn anything about nutrition. You 564 00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:50,720 Speaker 1: learn the biochemistry aspects of what vitamins do and how 565 00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:52,840 Speaker 1: they're utilized in the body, and the creb cycle and 566 00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:54,840 Speaker 1: how they break down. But they don't sit there and 567 00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:57,960 Speaker 1: tell us the benefits of kale, spinach, single food ingredients 568 00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:01,440 Speaker 1: that I learned all on my own. Would travel the 569 00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:04,440 Speaker 1: world to different blue zones, which is the areas of 570 00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:07,200 Speaker 1: the world where you see people live to one hundred 571 00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:07,600 Speaker 1: and three. 572 00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:10,040 Speaker 3: The longest I know where is where is the number 573 00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:10,840 Speaker 3: one blue zone? 574 00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:11,200 Speaker 2: Right now? 575 00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:12,280 Speaker 3: What is now? 576 00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:14,120 Speaker 1: I'm not sure the number one blue zone, but I 577 00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:16,560 Speaker 1: know you've got grease is one of them. You can't 578 00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:20,400 Speaker 1: and you go to these places, and I got to 579 00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:21,880 Speaker 1: look that up. I'm actually very curious of where the 580 00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:25,920 Speaker 1: number one blue zone is. But it is unbelievable to 581 00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:29,200 Speaker 1: see somebody who's one hundred and two years old, not 582 00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:32,120 Speaker 1: just one person, but a community of them riding their 583 00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:34,840 Speaker 1: bicycles to and from to where they need to go. 584 00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:40,080 Speaker 1: There's no grocery stores. It's their own gardens. Like Himalayans. 585 00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:42,360 Speaker 1: They have their buckwheat that they use. And you see 586 00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:45,480 Speaker 1: that they have less disease. And these people that are 587 00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:50,400 Speaker 1: there are functioning at a ninety year old or one 588 00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:54,520 Speaker 1: hundred year old with no medications and no disease. And 589 00:29:55,640 --> 00:30:00,560 Speaker 1: why they move they exercise the sweet ingredient. We don't 590 00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:02,920 Speaker 1: go to McDonald's and supersize their stuff. 591 00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:07,600 Speaker 2: I know. I sometimes it's so good, the futility issues 592 00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:11,560 Speaker 2: or you're hungover, I highly recommend it. Okay, yes, Sidney, 593 00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:15,640 Speaker 2: you're you're also like a realist. You would say that's okay, 594 00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:16,880 Speaker 2: everything in moderation. 595 00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:19,600 Speaker 1: I yes, I ordered pizza the other night and my 596 00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:23,400 Speaker 1: husband there there are two pizzas outside. I'm like for 597 00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:28,960 Speaker 1: me large, I'm like, don't judge how a hard day 598 00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:32,000 Speaker 1: you're tired. We all have to live and that's the 599 00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:34,000 Speaker 1: thing you have to enjoy your life to which is 600 00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:38,440 Speaker 1: another component stress. We live an environment of stress. Whatever 601 00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:42,240 Speaker 1: the stresses are. Everybody goes through stress in their own way. 602 00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:46,720 Speaker 1: Living in a household with other significant others, it's stress, 603 00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:49,480 Speaker 1: and you know, but it's like this is it's how 604 00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:52,120 Speaker 1: you deal with it, and so you need to go out. 605 00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:54,080 Speaker 1: You need to have fun. And yeah, if you want 606 00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:57,040 Speaker 1: to go out and have a clocktail and get drunk, okay, great. 607 00:30:57,280 --> 00:30:59,960 Speaker 1: It's in moderation though. If you're doing it every single night, 608 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,440 Speaker 1: we're going to be having different conversations. But you have 609 00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:05,200 Speaker 1: to also live and enjoy. I have a patient, actually 610 00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:10,440 Speaker 1: I adore her. She's she's eighty five and she's unbelievable. 611 00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:13,120 Speaker 1: I mean, she just she gets an a d I 612 00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:16,000 Speaker 1: was doing her session the other day and she just 613 00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:20,360 Speaker 1: sat there and she you know, she exercises, she does 614 00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:23,840 Speaker 1: strength training. She's she's unbelievable. Her blood work looks great. 615 00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:26,640 Speaker 1: But she said, I went to Carls Junior last night 616 00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:27,680 Speaker 1: and she's amazing. 617 00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:30,760 Speaker 3: I said, you, and. 618 00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:32,880 Speaker 1: She goes, I am allowed. 619 00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:35,040 Speaker 2: At eighty five, ju if I want to go to 620 00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:38,880 Speaker 2: Carls Junior, obviously, damn right you are. 621 00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:46,000 Speaker 3: But I was like, but. 622 00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:49,120 Speaker 1: It's that moderation, right, you have to you have to 623 00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:51,920 Speaker 1: go out and enjoy and indulge. We're not we we 624 00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:54,880 Speaker 1: are surrounded by that in the United States. When you 625 00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:57,600 Speaker 1: go to these blue zones, they don't have the ability 626 00:31:57,680 --> 00:32:00,720 Speaker 1: to walk down the street to McDonald's right there. So 627 00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:04,160 Speaker 1: we are subjected to that, and we just know that, hey, 628 00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:06,600 Speaker 1: we're going to have those moments where we're going to 629 00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:09,520 Speaker 1: be like McDonald Carls Junior. It's a matter of doing 630 00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:11,920 Speaker 1: it every once in a while and putting, you know, 631 00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:15,160 Speaker 1: being more consistent with the other things on a daily basis. 632 00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:18,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, percentage your pied charge of ninety percent good and 633 00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:21,400 Speaker 2: the ten percent bad, not the other way around, but yeah, exactly. 634 00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:27,720 Speaker 2: Calm Down with Erin and Carissa is a production of iHeartRadio. 635 00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:32,240 Speaker 2: For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, 636 00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:38,040 Speaker 2: or wherever you get your podcasts.