1 00:00:00,560 --> 00:00:02,360 Speaker 1: All right, thanks you goot chat in an hour two 2 00:00:02,560 --> 00:00:05,280 Speaker 1: Sean Hannedy's show toll free our number this Friday, eight 3 00:00:05,440 --> 00:00:07,360 Speaker 1: hundred and ninety four one, Sean, if you want to 4 00:00:07,400 --> 00:00:11,680 Speaker 1: be a part of the program. Uh, pretty fascinating when 5 00:00:11,760 --> 00:00:15,800 Speaker 1: Fannie Willis in light of the ruling today that even 6 00:00:16,560 --> 00:00:19,880 Speaker 1: legal analysts on fake news stations are saying, it's pretty 7 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:23,880 Speaker 1: devastating to her. Uh, but listen to her in twenty 8 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:27,000 Speaker 1: twenty calling for the previous DA to be removed from 9 00:00:27,080 --> 00:00:30,280 Speaker 1: office for doing exactly what she did. 10 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:34,880 Speaker 2: Listen you say, Ms willis, Judge Willis what law did 11 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:35,519 Speaker 2: he violate? 12 00:00:35,960 --> 00:00:36,360 Speaker 3: A few? 13 00:00:36,440 --> 00:00:39,920 Speaker 2: But let's try this on for size. Oh CGA forty 14 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:45,559 Speaker 2: five eleven five Extortion sub Section eight, as used in 15 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:49,640 Speaker 2: this cold section, The term extortion means an unlawful taking 16 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:53,240 Speaker 2: by a public law officer, under color of his office, 17 00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 2: from any person of any money or thing of value 18 00:00:56,880 --> 00:00:59,200 Speaker 2: that is not due to him, or more that is 19 00:00:59,280 --> 00:00:59,840 Speaker 2: due to him. 20 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:02,200 Speaker 4: Any public officer shall. 21 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:06,440 Speaker 2: Be, by himself, his deputy, or his agent, or other 22 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:10,080 Speaker 2: in person employed by him, be guilty of extortion. In 23 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:14,400 Speaker 2: receiving other and greater feeds than by law or allow him, 24 00:01:14,600 --> 00:01:17,360 Speaker 2: shall be guilty of a misdemeanor and repeat this part 25 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:20,800 Speaker 2: for me, and shall be dismissed from office, not maybe 26 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 2: shall be dismissed from office. 27 00:01:23,160 --> 00:01:27,440 Speaker 1: Then we've got Fannie Willis accusing. You might recall her 28 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:32,160 Speaker 1: critics of playing the race card, which came out pretty early. Uh, 29 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:33,760 Speaker 1: let me play that for you as well. 30 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 5: But de God, why does commission and so many others 31 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 5: question my desiion and special counsel? 32 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:48,480 Speaker 1: Lord your law, perfect child. I'm a little confused. 33 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:51,520 Speaker 6: I am three special counsels? 34 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 4: Is to do? 35 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:58,360 Speaker 1: Pay them all the same? They wont. 36 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:04,520 Speaker 5: One white woman a good personal friend, and gray boyan. 37 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 3: The superstar. 38 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 5: I tell you, I hired one white man brew my 39 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:17,400 Speaker 5: friend and a great boy. And I hire one black 40 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:23,280 Speaker 5: man another superstar, a great friend and a great boy. 41 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:26,960 Speaker 2: Oh Lord, they're gonna be mad when I call them 42 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 2: my own. 43 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:28,239 Speaker 1: It's nonsense. 44 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:33,000 Speaker 5: First thing they said, Oh, she gonna play the race 45 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 5: card now? But no, God, isn't it them who's playing 46 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 5: the race card? When they only question one? 47 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:43,520 Speaker 2: Isn't it them playing the race card? 48 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:48,600 Speaker 5: When they constantly think I need someone from some I'm 49 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:50,400 Speaker 5: a jurisdician in some of the. 50 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:53,160 Speaker 3: State to tell me how to do a job. I've 51 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:55,360 Speaker 3: been doing almost thirty years. 52 00:02:56,680 --> 00:03:00,640 Speaker 1: Now, you even have MSDNC they're on only calling for 53 00:03:00,720 --> 00:03:05,560 Speaker 1: Fannie Willis to step down, calling it an almost fatal blow. 54 00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:09,320 Speaker 1: Even at fake news CNN they're saying their calls for 55 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:12,600 Speaker 1: Fannie Willis, you know, ruling of a gift for Trump 56 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:16,200 Speaker 1: and code defendants and how optics matter, Well, you think 57 00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:19,200 Speaker 1: the affair, as I said earlier in the last how 58 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 1: the affair was real that we know, you know, without 59 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:26,880 Speaker 1: sufficient evidence the DA acquired a personal stake in the 60 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:30,880 Speaker 1: prosecution or that her financial arrangements had any impact in 61 00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:34,000 Speaker 1: the case, the defendants claim of an actual conflict must 62 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:37,120 Speaker 1: be denied. Excuse me, And then you go on to 63 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:40,360 Speaker 1: this whole appearance of impropriety, it's not an appearance because 64 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 1: it actually happened, and then going as far as even 65 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 1: saying that the case is tainted and how reasonable people 66 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 1: reasonable questions about whether the DA and her hand selected 67 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 1: lead a district attorney testified untruthfully about the timing of 68 00:03:55,800 --> 00:03:59,040 Speaker 1: their relationship. I guarantee you if it was a Republican 69 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:02,000 Speaker 1: or you had the last ning Trump, you probably would 70 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 1: be looking at potential perjury charges here, you know, So 71 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 1: we'll see what happens anyway here to weigh in on 72 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 1: all of this. He's the chief counsel for the American 73 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 1: Center for Law and Justice. They have been they have 74 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:18,679 Speaker 1: been filing AMIICAS briefs in all of these big Supreme 75 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 1: Court cases. Probably I would say they had the defining 76 00:04:23,279 --> 00:04:26,920 Speaker 1: brief filed in the Colorado case. And in terms of 77 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:31,000 Speaker 1: allowing Donald Trump's name on the ballot. Jay Sekulo's back 78 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:34,320 Speaker 1: with us also full disclosure my personal attorney, which he's 79 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:37,599 Speaker 1: very embarrassed by, sir, Welcome back to the program. 80 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:40,719 Speaker 3: And I'm never embarrassed representing you or your family. Just 81 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 3: to be clear, I want the record, your. 82 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 1: Honor, I want the record to show. Let's get your 83 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 1: take on this pretty devastating and what do you think 84 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 1: it means and where do you think it goes? 85 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:55,360 Speaker 3: Well, look, I mean let me go back a couple 86 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 3: of steps, and you know, you look at the Fourteenth 87 00:04:57,000 --> 00:04:59,559 Speaker 3: Amendment cases and attempts to take Trump off the ballot. 88 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:02,080 Speaker 3: We actually he represented the Colorado gopiece. We were a 89 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:04,440 Speaker 3: party in that case. It wasn't just a friend of 90 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:07,760 Speaker 3: the corporrief, it was a merriage brief. Look, I think 91 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:11,880 Speaker 3: this judge got it wrong. You cannot conclude, and he 92 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:20,359 Speaker 3: did say this. He concludes that, and this is the 93 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:27,480 Speaker 3: odor of mendacity surrounds this case. That means the odor 94 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:30,800 Speaker 3: of false statements of lying surround this case. Well, then, 95 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:32,240 Speaker 3: how in the world did you let either one of 96 00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:35,320 Speaker 3: them stand? How in the world did you let either 97 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:41,160 Speaker 3: Willis or Wade maintain their position? So here's the problem. 98 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:44,160 Speaker 3: He also finds that the speech that Fawnie gave it 99 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:48,840 Speaker 3: that church was legally improper, but he still gives her 100 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:53,200 Speaker 3: the choice to decide who stays, whether it's her or Wade, 101 00:05:53,279 --> 00:05:56,280 Speaker 3: and if Wade goes, she gets to prosecute the case. 102 00:05:56,360 --> 00:05:58,880 Speaker 3: I think this was ridiculous. I think this judge was wrong. 103 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:02,040 Speaker 3: I think it was the lack of experience. I'm been 104 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:04,200 Speaker 3: practicing law about ten years and he got it wrong. 105 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:06,880 Speaker 3: I mean, I know something. It's bad for Funny because 106 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:09,520 Speaker 3: he makes these findings. But the conclusion of law allows 107 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:12,680 Speaker 3: her to proceed. And I think that's out really outrageous. 108 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:17,919 Speaker 1: And is there any any effort, any possibility of appealing 109 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:19,799 Speaker 1: this or taking this to a higher level. 110 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:22,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, so you can follow an interlocatory appeal to the 111 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:25,719 Speaker 3: Georgia Court of Appeals it's discretionary, not likely they will 112 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:28,680 Speaker 3: grant it at this stage. So I think that they're 113 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:30,120 Speaker 3: going to have the lawyers are going to have to 114 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:34,480 Speaker 3: proceed in this case recognizing that the Bonnie Willis will 115 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 3: be the prosecutor and Judge McAfee will be the judge, 116 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:39,800 Speaker 3: and maybe his rulings will be better in some of these. 117 00:06:39,640 --> 00:06:42,279 Speaker 1: Other issues we'll hang on. I say, wouldn't that mean 118 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:44,640 Speaker 1: that the boyfriend that spent all this money that she 119 00:06:44,839 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 1: was paying him on their elaborate and extravagant vacations, but 120 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:52,160 Speaker 1: he gets thrown overboard? You mean she's not gonna throw 121 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:53,160 Speaker 1: herself overboard. 122 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:56,760 Speaker 3: He gets thrown overboard, and they judge says, you know, 123 00:06:56,880 --> 00:07:00,160 Speaker 3: there's other forums or sources of authority. That's as the 124 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:02,839 Speaker 3: General Assembly, the State Ethics Board, the State barbed Georgia, 125 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 3: Fulton County Board of Commissioners, or the voters of Fulton 126 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:09,279 Speaker 3: County may offer feedback on any unanswered questions. In other words, 127 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:12,120 Speaker 3: what happens to the evidence that Wade collected when he 128 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:14,520 Speaker 3: shouldn't have been there. We call it in the law 129 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:17,720 Speaker 3: the fruit of the poisonous tree, and you cannot eat 130 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:20,000 Speaker 3: the fruit of the poisonous tree, so all of the 131 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:23,400 Speaker 3: evidence he gathered should be omitted. Judge really doesn't address that. 132 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:26,280 Speaker 3: That'll probably come in a separate motion, I think. 133 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:28,960 Speaker 1: And where would that be filed? In the well? You're 134 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:32,320 Speaker 1: saying that if they went forward there, it would go 135 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:33,640 Speaker 1: right back to that judge. 136 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:35,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, and the judge is up for elections, so if 137 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:38,680 Speaker 3: he loses, he's not the judge it may well. 138 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:41,120 Speaker 1: I mean, I this is one thing a lot of 139 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:43,960 Speaker 1: people didn't know now that they're not partisan elections. You 140 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:47,040 Speaker 1: don't run as a Republican or a Democrat. But obviously 141 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:50,360 Speaker 1: this guy has a higher profile than any other judge 142 00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 1: in this election, so he had the most at stake here. 143 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 1: I don't know, I mean, was he threatened the needle 144 00:07:57,920 --> 00:08:01,680 Speaker 1: between perhaps his desire to stay on the bench. 145 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 3: In this case, I don't think there's any question we I. 146 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:08,000 Speaker 1: Mean, how could it not be in the back of 147 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:10,040 Speaker 1: your mind, knowing that you got an election in a 148 00:08:10,080 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 1: couple of. 149 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:13,280 Speaker 3: Months, trying to stay on the bench. And he chastises 150 00:08:13,320 --> 00:08:15,880 Speaker 3: Fawny but doesn't throw off, gives her the option of 151 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:18,280 Speaker 3: throwing herself off her weight. Why wonder what she's gonna do? 152 00:08:18,360 --> 00:08:18,560 Speaker 4: Right? 153 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:22,600 Speaker 3: So, yeah, no, it's terrible. 154 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:26,520 Speaker 1: Let's look at at all the cases now that the 155 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:31,240 Speaker 1: president is facing. There seems to be delays here, there, 156 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:34,640 Speaker 1: and everywhere. We saw in the New York case, Salvin 157 00:08:34,679 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 1: braggs that he'd be okay with a thirty day extension 158 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:41,640 Speaker 1: before the trial would start. It was supposed to start 159 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:44,440 Speaker 1: I think next week actually, and now that's not going 160 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:47,040 Speaker 1: to happen, And now it'll go at least another month, 161 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:49,760 Speaker 1: and maybe there'll be other motions that are filed that 162 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:53,520 Speaker 1: would prevent the start of that case. We're waiting for 163 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:55,800 Speaker 1: a lot of things to happen as it relates to 164 00:08:56,080 --> 00:08:58,680 Speaker 1: the Washington, DC case, not the least of which is 165 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:00,880 Speaker 1: the Supreme Court is the same to take up the 166 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:03,600 Speaker 1: issue of presidential immunity. I know you're going to be 167 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:05,800 Speaker 1: filing a brief in that case if you haven't filed 168 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:10,120 Speaker 1: it already. And then we got the case down in 169 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 1: Florida where the judge actually, I thought, brought up some 170 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:18,320 Speaker 1: very interesting points yesterday on this particular case, and she 171 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:21,120 Speaker 1: questioned why Trump was the only person charged with the 172 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:24,800 Speaker 1: handling of classified materials, which I think is material to 173 00:09:24,840 --> 00:09:27,000 Speaker 1: the case. In other words, do we have equal justice 174 00:09:27,040 --> 00:09:29,280 Speaker 1: under the law, equal application of our laws. 175 00:09:30,960 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 3: John, she denied the motion to dismiss. 176 00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:36,600 Speaker 1: She denied it to dismiss, but she What I found 177 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:40,120 Speaker 1: interesting in the hearing was, you know, the idea that 178 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:44,480 Speaker 1: she brought up, you know, in this case prosecution collective 179 00:09:44,520 --> 00:09:45,840 Speaker 1: prosecution exactly. 180 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:48,240 Speaker 3: So that can be made in another motion. And there 181 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:51,840 Speaker 3: are two other motions pending. So let's go back, Jack, 182 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:54,600 Speaker 3: So you got the newer case. The ALVM Brad case 183 00:09:54,640 --> 00:09:57,360 Speaker 3: has been prostponed for at least thirty days. My feeling 184 00:09:57,400 --> 00:09:59,040 Speaker 3: is that's going to get postponed a lot longer. I 185 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:01,320 Speaker 3: think that's going to go much slower. I don't think 186 00:10:01,360 --> 00:10:03,560 Speaker 3: they're prepared. They were just handing documents over to the 187 00:10:03,559 --> 00:10:06,640 Speaker 3: defense lawyers, which was absurd, you know, two weeks before 188 00:10:06,679 --> 00:10:08,960 Speaker 3: trial that it's nonsense, and that in that case is 189 00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:11,920 Speaker 3: is a very weak case. And everybody acknowledges that that's 190 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:13,880 Speaker 3: the weakest case. Jack Smith has got a lot of hurds. 191 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:16,160 Speaker 1: Well, slow down though. It's a weak case. But it's 192 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:18,760 Speaker 1: a weak case brought in an a venue that's not 193 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:22,559 Speaker 1: friendly towards Donald Trump. We saw that in the civil trial, right, 194 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:26,120 Speaker 1: I mean, this judge who's who's trying to decide a 195 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:29,080 Speaker 1: case based on whether or not the Trump organization put 196 00:10:29,120 --> 00:10:33,080 Speaker 1: forward phoning out valuations throughout the entire trial, stuck to 197 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:37,600 Speaker 1: evaluation of mar A Lago that was completely and utterly false, 198 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:41,079 Speaker 1: and that mar A Lago was eighteen million dollars and 199 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:43,960 Speaker 1: it's not. It was closer to a billion dollars. 200 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:46,920 Speaker 3: I think that I think on appeal that judgment will 201 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:50,720 Speaker 3: be cut in half or maybe even more. That Alvin 202 00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:52,720 Speaker 3: Brad case is going to move slow, and there's gonna 203 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:54,200 Speaker 3: be a lot of hurls there. Yes, it's not a 204 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:57,920 Speaker 3: friendly jurisdiction, but the president has got some very good defenses. 205 00:10:58,360 --> 00:11:00,920 Speaker 3: As it relates to the Jacksmith's case. Jack Smith right 206 00:11:00,920 --> 00:11:04,560 Speaker 3: now has two major hurdles. First hurdle he has will 207 00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:07,480 Speaker 3: also be heard at the end of April, is that another. 208 00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:11,600 Speaker 3: A protest from January sixth challenged the statute, which is 209 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:14,400 Speaker 3: two of the charges against President Trump as well on 210 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:18,000 Speaker 3: the obstruction of an Act of Congress. Judge Kassas at 211 00:11:18,040 --> 00:11:19,880 Speaker 3: the US Court of Fields for the District of Columbia, 212 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:22,480 Speaker 3: we're a very good descent in that case, saying that 213 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:26,280 Speaker 3: the statute was being interpreted over broadly. It would impact 214 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:29,760 Speaker 3: first Amendment rights, and we filed in that case as well, 215 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:32,520 Speaker 3: and I think their court's going to reverse, so two 216 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:35,160 Speaker 3: of the four charges go there. Then I think the 217 00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:41,120 Speaker 3: judge in the case involving the Jacksmith's prosecution on the 218 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:44,880 Speaker 3: issue of immunity, if Trump's lawyer, now, we're going to 219 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:47,640 Speaker 3: argue it this way, representing the parties we are. But 220 00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:51,160 Speaker 3: if Trump's lawyers go in there with a limited presidential 221 00:11:51,200 --> 00:11:54,960 Speaker 3: immunity for official acts, I believe he will win. They 222 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:58,160 Speaker 3: will reverse the district court. The district court will be 223 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:02,160 Speaker 3: reversed on two points. One that immunity expires the moment 224 00:12:02,160 --> 00:12:04,920 Speaker 3: the president's out of office. That doesn't even make sense because 225 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:07,040 Speaker 3: that it's not really immunity. Let's think about that for 226 00:12:07,120 --> 00:12:12,160 Speaker 3: a moment. And then number two that it includes the 227 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:14,679 Speaker 3: out of periphery of official acts. So then there'll be 228 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:17,520 Speaker 3: a determination going back to the district court as to 229 00:12:18,040 --> 00:12:21,280 Speaker 3: where the allegations in the indictment acts that might be 230 00:12:21,320 --> 00:12:25,520 Speaker 3: deemed official they involved election integrity. The president is required 231 00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:29,480 Speaker 3: in the Constitution to faithfully execute called the faithful execution 232 00:12:29,600 --> 00:12:33,040 Speaker 3: clause execute the Constitution of the United States, and he 233 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:36,240 Speaker 3: will be able to argue that those were indeed official acts. 234 00:12:36,559 --> 00:12:38,439 Speaker 3: If they were, he's immune and that case. 235 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:38,680 Speaker 6: Is over with. 236 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:41,080 Speaker 1: All right, well take a quick break, we'll come back 237 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:45,000 Speaker 1: on the other side. Final last question for j. Seculo, 238 00:12:45,160 --> 00:12:48,559 Speaker 1: the chief council American Center for Law and Justice. Then 239 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:51,400 Speaker 1: your call is coming up eight hundred and ninety four one, Sean, 240 00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:52,800 Speaker 1: if you want to be a part of the program 241 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:55,520 Speaker 1: on this Friday, your calls, your comments coming up. Taking 242 00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:58,720 Speaker 1: out with Jay Seculo, chief counsel for the American Center 243 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 1: for Law Injustice. Okay, now this is very clear. I 244 00:13:01,800 --> 00:13:04,440 Speaker 1: want people to fully understand. Now. I thought it was 245 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:07,680 Speaker 1: a mistake the argument that was being made by the 246 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:11,480 Speaker 1: president's attorneys about absolute immunity. This was the lower case 247 00:13:11,679 --> 00:13:14,720 Speaker 1: oral arguments that were being made, and it came up. 248 00:13:14,760 --> 00:13:17,280 Speaker 1: I believe the hypothetical came from the judge and or 249 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:20,280 Speaker 1: one of the judges in that case on that case 250 00:13:20,679 --> 00:13:25,199 Speaker 1: that well, does absolute immunity mean that a president could 251 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:29,959 Speaker 1: order Sealed Team six to kill or assassinate their chief 252 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:33,599 Speaker 1: rival and political opponent, Which was an obscene and absurd 253 00:13:34,120 --> 00:13:36,160 Speaker 1: analogy on the face. 254 00:13:35,880 --> 00:13:39,640 Speaker 3: Of it, but easy question. The lawyer did and Shower 255 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:42,600 Speaker 3: didn't use that answer, But the answer would be those 256 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:44,720 Speaker 3: would not be deemed official acts, so those would not 257 00:13:44,720 --> 00:13:47,680 Speaker 3: be within the context of presidential immunity. Now, as it 258 00:13:47,720 --> 00:13:50,800 Speaker 3: relates to when the president could thus be charged with that, 259 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:54,120 Speaker 3: you have the issue of sitting presidents can't be cannot 260 00:13:54,160 --> 00:13:57,320 Speaker 3: be charged while in office, So you've got that issue. 261 00:13:57,400 --> 00:13:59,480 Speaker 3: But that goes to timing of the proceeding. But to 262 00:13:59,480 --> 00:14:01,439 Speaker 3: say the president it wouldn't be liable for that, or 263 00:14:01,440 --> 00:14:03,959 Speaker 3: it would be immune forever for prosecution for ordering the 264 00:14:03,960 --> 00:14:08,280 Speaker 3: assassion of a political opponent would be ridiculous, of course. 265 00:14:08,240 --> 00:14:10,800 Speaker 1: Totally all right, So let me let me ask big picture, 266 00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:14,120 Speaker 1: with what you see going on in New York, DC, 267 00:14:15,440 --> 00:14:19,680 Speaker 1: Fulton County, Georgia, Florida. Do you see any of these 268 00:14:19,760 --> 00:14:21,400 Speaker 1: trials before the election? 269 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:26,160 Speaker 3: You know, maybe New York. I don't see Eileen Cannons 270 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:30,280 Speaker 3: or the Jack Smith cases in in Washington going before, 271 00:14:30,320 --> 00:14:34,000 Speaker 3: so I think maybe Eileen Cannon not likely, and I 272 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:36,440 Speaker 3: think Bragg. I guess. 273 00:14:37,920 --> 00:14:41,760 Speaker 1: Bragg but would likely happen. But of all the cases 274 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:44,320 Speaker 1: out there now, the previous DA in New York Cyrus 275 00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:48,080 Speaker 1: Fans had passed on prosecuting Donald Trump on that issue. 276 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:50,760 Speaker 1: And that goes back to twenty sixteen everybody knew about 277 00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:52,720 Speaker 1: Stormy Daniels in twenty sixteen. 278 00:14:53,160 --> 00:14:55,760 Speaker 3: Right, the FBC also passed over to the Department of Justice. 279 00:14:56,480 --> 00:14:59,040 Speaker 1: All right, hang on, we'll hold Jay. One quick question 280 00:14:59,280 --> 00:15:01,880 Speaker 1: on the timing and what we could expect because we 281 00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:04,080 Speaker 1: are only two hundred and thirty four days outside of 282 00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:06,680 Speaker 1: election day. Another question for Jay on the other side. 283 00:15:06,680 --> 00:15:09,680 Speaker 1: We'll come back. We'll continue Jay Seculo, he is the 284 00:15:09,760 --> 00:15:12,640 Speaker 1: chief Council American Center for Law and Justice. Then we'll 285 00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:14,720 Speaker 1: get to your calls next half hour as well. Eight 286 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:17,640 Speaker 1: hundred nine four one sean. If you want to be 287 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:22,400 Speaker 1: a part of the program. 288 00:15:23,320 --> 00:15:26,400 Speaker 7: Now that we made some money for our sponsors, let's 289 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:30,520 Speaker 7: go back to making the liberals crazy. The handman is 290 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:33,920 Speaker 7: back on the radio right now, all. 291 00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:35,720 Speaker 1: Right, twenty five to the top of the hour, toll 292 00:15:35,720 --> 00:15:37,360 Speaker 1: free number. We'll get to some of your calls this 293 00:15:37,400 --> 00:15:39,760 Speaker 1: half hour, eight hundred ninety four to one, sean, if 294 00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:42,560 Speaker 1: you want to join us. It's been months now since 295 00:15:42,720 --> 00:15:47,400 Speaker 1: Israel sustained the worst terrorist attack in their history by Hamas. 296 00:15:48,120 --> 00:15:51,160 Speaker 1: They now are in a war for their very survival 297 00:15:51,600 --> 00:15:53,880 Speaker 1: and frankly being stabbed in the back by the Biden 298 00:15:53,920 --> 00:15:59,160 Speaker 1: administration and Democrats. Clearly they're more concerned about voters in 299 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:03,440 Speaker 1: mis than they are about our top ally around the world. 300 00:16:03,480 --> 00:16:07,560 Speaker 1: It's sad. The economic situation on the ground for hundreds 301 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:11,720 Speaker 1: of thousands of Israelis is dire. You literally have people 302 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:15,640 Speaker 1: unable to return to their homes, more being evacuated this week. 303 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:18,640 Speaker 1: I mean, if you look at the northern Israeli has 304 00:16:18,680 --> 00:16:23,760 Speaker 1: bombarded by Hisbollah at Elebanon and more and more people 305 00:16:24,040 --> 00:16:27,880 Speaker 1: are are homeless at this particular point. Thankfully, those groups 306 00:16:27,960 --> 00:16:31,680 Speaker 1: like the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews, the IFCJ, 307 00:16:32,280 --> 00:16:33,960 Speaker 1: they are in the middle of this. They have been 308 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:37,760 Speaker 1: on the ground from day one. They're distributing critical essentials 309 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:41,760 Speaker 1: like food and medicine, emergency supplies for hundreds of thousands 310 00:16:41,800 --> 00:16:45,440 Speaker 1: of suffering Israelis. Now they are in desperate need. We 311 00:16:45,520 --> 00:16:49,440 Speaker 1: have partnered with them very proudly. Every donation is urgently needed. 312 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:53,080 Speaker 1: There are two ways you can donate. One is you 313 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:56,000 Speaker 1: can dial pound two fifty on your cell phone and 314 00:16:56,640 --> 00:17:01,160 Speaker 1: just say the keywords support IFCJ or go to their website. 315 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:05,600 Speaker 1: It's simple support IFCJ dot org, one word support if 316 00:17:05,760 --> 00:17:08,760 Speaker 1: CJ dot org. If you do it today, well, your 317 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:12,040 Speaker 1: generous donation will be matched by another generous donor, so 318 00:17:12,119 --> 00:17:16,960 Speaker 1: that's twice as powerful that support if CJ dot org. 319 00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:19,840 Speaker 1: All right, j Seculo has agreed to stay a few 320 00:17:19,840 --> 00:17:21,800 Speaker 1: moments with us. He is the chief counsel for the 321 00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:24,280 Speaker 1: American Center for Law and Justice. I don't want to 322 00:17:24,359 --> 00:17:27,760 Speaker 1: rush through the timeline here, because in two hundred and 323 00:17:27,760 --> 00:17:32,280 Speaker 1: thirty four days, America, I think has a tipping point 324 00:17:32,320 --> 00:17:37,040 Speaker 1: election in front of us. This is a critical moment 325 00:17:37,080 --> 00:17:40,000 Speaker 1: for the country, of my view, and I don't think 326 00:17:40,040 --> 00:17:43,920 Speaker 1: the I don't think the country can survive four more 327 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:47,159 Speaker 1: years of Joe Biden and his insane policies. That's my view. 328 00:17:47,640 --> 00:17:51,080 Speaker 1: And the issue of these legal cases and legal hurdles 329 00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:53,879 Speaker 1: that Donald Trump is facing a real We've got the 330 00:17:53,920 --> 00:17:57,399 Speaker 1: case in New York, the case in DC Fulton County, Georgia, 331 00:17:57,520 --> 00:17:59,840 Speaker 1: light of today's news, and then of course we have 332 00:17:59,880 --> 00:18:03,280 Speaker 1: the case down in Florida. Okay, let's walk through the 333 00:18:03,320 --> 00:18:06,639 Speaker 1: timing of this. What you see coming in each case, 334 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:09,840 Speaker 1: starting in New York, will work our way down south 335 00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:12,800 Speaker 1: to Washington, to Georgia to Florida. 336 00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:16,080 Speaker 3: Okay, So in New York, in New York, you're on 337 00:18:16,119 --> 00:18:18,760 Speaker 3: a thirty day delay so now you're talking mid April 338 00:18:18,760 --> 00:18:21,480 Speaker 3: as a start date. Will there be additional delays? My 339 00:18:21,560 --> 00:18:24,240 Speaker 3: guess is there probably will be. But I think that's 340 00:18:24,320 --> 00:18:27,320 Speaker 3: the one case that might go to trial before the election, 341 00:18:27,520 --> 00:18:30,399 Speaker 3: probably the least consequential, and it's certainly the weakest of 342 00:18:30,440 --> 00:18:33,000 Speaker 3: the cases. So that's why I think that one plays out. 343 00:18:33,600 --> 00:18:36,320 Speaker 3: The second case, if we go we're just going to 344 00:18:36,440 --> 00:18:40,840 Speaker 3: keep moving southern South, would be the Jack Smith indictments 345 00:18:41,119 --> 00:18:44,440 Speaker 3: on January sixth. There are two legal hurdles that Jack 346 00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:47,440 Speaker 3: Smith is facing that case. One is the Supreme Court 347 00:18:47,520 --> 00:18:50,960 Speaker 3: granted Sir ferarri on the immunity issue. The immunity issue 348 00:18:51,720 --> 00:18:54,000 Speaker 3: is whether a president can be charged with a crime 349 00:18:54,080 --> 00:18:57,280 Speaker 3: once he leaves office for act taking while he was president. 350 00:18:58,680 --> 00:19:01,240 Speaker 3: I think our position is is that we're advocating in 351 00:19:01,280 --> 00:19:03,680 Speaker 3: the Supreme Court, is that it's a limited presidential immunity 352 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:08,080 Speaker 3: limited to official acts, but that election integrity would certainly 353 00:19:08,080 --> 00:19:11,639 Speaker 3: fall within the faithful execution clause of the United States 354 00:19:11,640 --> 00:19:16,800 Speaker 3: Constitution and thus would be deemed an official act that 355 00:19:16,840 --> 00:19:19,960 Speaker 3: would go back down to the district court for hearings 356 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:23,040 Speaker 3: and probably appeals from there. So no way Jacksonith's case 357 00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:26,119 Speaker 3: goes to trial just on that issue, but then complicate 358 00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:28,920 Speaker 3: it one more. There is a case that they also took. 359 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:30,960 Speaker 3: It's going to be argued probably the day before. The 360 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:34,800 Speaker 3: other one is where the issue is the interpretation of 361 00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:37,920 Speaker 3: the interference with Congress. It's Fisher versus the United States, 362 00:19:38,359 --> 00:19:41,240 Speaker 3: and in that case, Judge Kassas at the DC Court 363 00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:44,439 Speaker 3: of Appeal said that the interpretation that the government was 364 00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:48,919 Speaker 3: giving to the interference with official acts of Congress was 365 00:19:49,040 --> 00:19:52,560 Speaker 3: overbrought and violated free speech. Everyone thought the Supreme Court 366 00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:54,879 Speaker 3: would deny review. They did not. I think that's an 367 00:19:54,880 --> 00:19:57,400 Speaker 3: indication that they're going to reverse. I think they will 368 00:19:57,520 --> 00:20:01,560 Speaker 3: reverse on that one as well two of the four 369 00:20:01,720 --> 00:20:04,040 Speaker 3: counts of the indictment. So there's no way that case 370 00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:06,880 Speaker 3: is going to trial before the election. Then we got 371 00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:08,840 Speaker 3: to go to Fulton County. It doesn't go to tribal 372 00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:10,920 Speaker 3: before the election. Shown there's no way, but it's likely 373 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:13,359 Speaker 3: to go to trial at this point. Now, if he 374 00:20:13,400 --> 00:20:18,359 Speaker 3: wins the presidency under the case I argued Vance versus Trump, 375 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:20,080 Speaker 3: they're not gonna be able to do this while he's 376 00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:22,160 Speaker 3: a sitting president because I would interfere with this Article 377 00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:25,800 Speaker 3: two responsibilities. So if he wins, that case likely goes away. 378 00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:28,959 Speaker 3: Eileen Cannon is a little bit of an unknown in 379 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:32,840 Speaker 3: the sense that there was a motion to dismiss yesterday 380 00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:36,560 Speaker 3: that she denied. There are two others pending that document's case. 381 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:39,120 Speaker 3: I think would be be a very close call whether 382 00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:41,760 Speaker 3: she'd let that case go, and it probably couldn't go 383 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:44,320 Speaker 3: until September or Act and that is awful close to 384 00:20:44,359 --> 00:20:46,159 Speaker 3: the election, so I think probably not. 385 00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:50,359 Speaker 1: I got the indication that she was almost signaling to 386 00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:55,720 Speaker 1: the defense your real argument here probably a selective prosecution. 387 00:20:56,480 --> 00:20:58,960 Speaker 1: I got that feeling. Now if you go back to 388 00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:02,919 Speaker 1: the Colorado and your brief was spot on in that case, 389 00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:06,520 Speaker 1: and I felt that the justices, even during oral arguments, 390 00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:10,600 Speaker 1: had read your brief because a lot of the questions 391 00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:12,840 Speaker 1: they were asking seemed to come directly out of it, 392 00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:15,439 Speaker 1: and you did file it before the oral arguments, if 393 00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:19,320 Speaker 1: I'm not mistaken, of course, And in that case, what 394 00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:22,960 Speaker 1: was fascinating is I felt for both sides, the Supreme 395 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:27,880 Speaker 1: Court justices were actually telling the defense and the prosecution 396 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:31,720 Speaker 1: what their argument should be. And it was fascinating to 397 00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:35,800 Speaker 1: me because neither one wanted to seed any ground and 398 00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:38,560 Speaker 1: accept that they were giving them the answer that they 399 00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:41,879 Speaker 1: wanted to hear. I was kind of laughable to me. 400 00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:45,639 Speaker 3: Yes, So the question will be there, there'll be this 401 00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:48,160 Speaker 3: whole series of pretrial motions. We're nowhere near that phase 402 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:50,600 Speaker 3: right now. We had one. So that's why I don't 403 00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:53,120 Speaker 3: think the case goes before. And she has raised concerns 404 00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:56,480 Speaker 3: over selective prosecution. President Biden treated one way, President Trump 405 00:21:56,480 --> 00:21:59,000 Speaker 3: seated somewhere else. And what's interesting about that is Biden 406 00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:01,280 Speaker 3: had no authority to de classed by documents and President 407 00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:04,360 Speaker 3: Trump had absolute authority to be classed by documents as president. 408 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:07,000 Speaker 3: So it's a you know, it's ridiculous. I think it's 409 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:11,240 Speaker 3: a two tiered system of justice and also the reality 410 00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:13,440 Speaker 3: is but that's why I don't think it goes to 411 00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:14,119 Speaker 3: trial before. 412 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:18,040 Speaker 1: Okay, So that means for Donald Trump from his perspective, 413 00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:20,719 Speaker 1: I don't really think the Stormy Daniel's case is going 414 00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:23,600 Speaker 1: to have much impact on people's thinking or voting, considering 415 00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:26,399 Speaker 1: they've known about it since prior to the twenty sixteen election, 416 00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:30,160 Speaker 1: so I think it's an old issue and that would 417 00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:32,879 Speaker 1: mean that, Okay, Donald Trump then has an opportunity or 418 00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:36,200 Speaker 1: clear path to actually run for president without being distracted 419 00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:38,720 Speaker 1: and being in our courtroom half the time. All right, Jay, 420 00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:41,080 Speaker 1: I know you stayed longer than you thought. We appreciate it. 421 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:44,880 Speaker 1: Jake J. Secular, Chief Council, American Center for Law and Justice, Sir, 422 00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:48,040 Speaker 1: thank you, We appreciate you being with us. Eight hundred 423 00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:50,000 Speaker 1: nine four one, Shawn is a number if you want 424 00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:51,920 Speaker 1: to be a part of the program. Let's go to Ohio, 425 00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:54,600 Speaker 1: the Buckeye State. Let's say hi to Kyle. Kyle, you're 426 00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:57,240 Speaker 1: on the Sean Hannity Show. Happy Friday to you. 427 00:22:57,880 --> 00:22:59,720 Speaker 6: Happy Friday to you, Shawn. Thank you. It's an honor 428 00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:01,679 Speaker 6: to be talking to you again. How are you today, 429 00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:06,520 Speaker 6: I'm good, sir, fantastic. Hey, I'm calling you know. On Wednesday, 430 00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:09,399 Speaker 6: I know we were all excited as Republicans jumping up 431 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:12,680 Speaker 6: and down after Trump had got those three charges in 432 00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:18,040 Speaker 6: the eighteen total people that were being convicted in Fulton County. 433 00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:21,440 Speaker 6: Those charges dropped. And usually I'm a glass half full 434 00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:24,720 Speaker 6: kind of guy, and you know, I just took a second. 435 00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:26,239 Speaker 6: I said, you know what, I think this is the 436 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:29,200 Speaker 6: bone that the judge is thrown to US Republicans saying hey, 437 00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:33,280 Speaker 6: I'm nonpartisan, I'm up for reelection, like mister Secuelo just said, 438 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:35,800 Speaker 6: and that's the only bone that we're gonna get thrown 439 00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:38,400 Speaker 6: in this. And I think today's judgment has shown that 440 00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:41,160 Speaker 6: of you know, we're not taking them off the case, 441 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:43,440 Speaker 6: both of them that they should be taken off the case. 442 00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:45,320 Speaker 6: But this is Hey, what are the other you guys 443 00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:47,040 Speaker 6: pick and let's move forward. 444 00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:51,440 Speaker 1: Well, I think you're right and your analysis is pretty 445 00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:54,920 Speaker 1: much in line with what Jay was arguing here. However, 446 00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:59,000 Speaker 1: I mean, the fruit of the poisonous tree, all the 447 00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:04,240 Speaker 1: evidence that was accumulated by this boyfriend of Fannie willis 448 00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:07,520 Speaker 1: now would be in admissible, and that's going to be 449 00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:09,760 Speaker 1: a there's going to be a major hearing on that 450 00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:13,720 Speaker 1: one issue alone. I think this guy tried to split 451 00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:16,440 Speaker 1: the baby, if you will, not to not to use 452 00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:19,120 Speaker 1: a disparaging term, or just thread the needle, I guess 453 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:22,439 Speaker 1: would be a better term. And I just think he 454 00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:25,760 Speaker 1: came off acidin and in his judgment, I think he 455 00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:29,120 Speaker 1: just was wrong in his conclusion on this, and he's 456 00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:31,800 Speaker 1: almost kind of acknowledging by doing it that he's wrong, 457 00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:34,679 Speaker 1: but he did it anyway. And that's the danger of 458 00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:37,560 Speaker 1: ever being in a judicial system of any kind. You 459 00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:40,360 Speaker 1: just don't know. There are always other considerations that are 460 00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:42,679 Speaker 1: on these judges' minds, and you don't know what that is. 461 00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:45,640 Speaker 1: I think also the fact that he's a fairly new 462 00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:50,240 Speaker 1: judge contributed to this. I don't think this was a decisive, 463 00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:53,520 Speaker 1: strong ruling that was based on laws and ethics out 464 00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:55,200 Speaker 1: of the state of Georgia. I just don't I. 465 00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:57,639 Speaker 6: Agree with you. I think that you know, it's just 466 00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:00,600 Speaker 6: I think he's just trying to play politics with and 467 00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:02,840 Speaker 6: it's very unfortunate that the rule of law was not 468 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:06,200 Speaker 6: at play here. This was just all for his very 469 00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:07,040 Speaker 6: in his next election. 470 00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:10,520 Speaker 1: Welcome to Joe Biden's America, because we're all living that 471 00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:14,520 Speaker 1: nightmare right now, which is the weaponization of justice. And 472 00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:16,960 Speaker 1: if we don't stop this, you're going to lose your country. 473 00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:21,359 Speaker 1: Because I would not want any Republican to ever weaponize 474 00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:24,239 Speaker 1: the Justice Department to go after Democrats. I wouldn't want it. 475 00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:27,960 Speaker 1: I wouldn't put up with it. I'd be their fiercest critic. Anyway, 476 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:30,120 Speaker 1: Appreciate the call, my friend. You have a great weekend. 477 00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:32,040 Speaker 1: All right, we'll take a quick break. We'll come back. 478 00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:34,960 Speaker 1: More of your calls. Eight hundred and nine four one Sean, 479 00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:36,440 Speaker 1: if you want to be a part of the program. 480 00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:39,720 Speaker 1: My back to our busy phones. Let's say hi to 481 00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:44,240 Speaker 1: professor somebody. Hello, professor, I can't read the name on 482 00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:44,800 Speaker 1: my screen. 483 00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:49,040 Speaker 4: Hi, Sean, this is Professor Katz. How are you? And 484 00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:53,280 Speaker 4: God bless you and thank you and Linda for everything 485 00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:56,800 Speaker 4: that you do. I was really calling about, first of all, 486 00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:00,960 Speaker 4: Chuck Schumer, you know, and the devil Crap Party always 487 00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:04,360 Speaker 4: talk about with President Trump that democracy is on the ballot, 488 00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:07,840 Speaker 4: when actually, if President Trump doesn't get back in, we're 489 00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:11,280 Speaker 4: going to lose our democracy because they're the ones that 490 00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:15,080 Speaker 4: are attacking not only our democracy but our greatest ally, 491 00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:18,639 Speaker 4: you know, Israel. I mean for the Senate Majority leader 492 00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:22,040 Speaker 4: to get out right after the horrible State of the 493 00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:26,040 Speaker 4: Union speech and basically repeat the same talking point that 494 00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:30,879 Speaker 4: President Biden spoke about was just horrendous. He doesn't speak 495 00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:34,160 Speaker 4: for the Jewish people. He doesn't speak for my mom, 496 00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:36,920 Speaker 4: who's a ninety six year old Holocaust survivor or any 497 00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:39,200 Speaker 4: of my aunts who are Holocaust survivors, or any of 498 00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:42,760 Speaker 4: the Jewish conservatives that are out there in America. Jay 499 00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:47,880 Speaker 4: Zeculo represents us. So when he said that in his speech, 500 00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:50,200 Speaker 4: that he speaks for the majority. No, he does not. 501 00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:53,719 Speaker 4: He doesn't speak for all of the Christian people and 502 00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:57,800 Speaker 4: people everywhere of goodwill who support Israel. When he attacked 503 00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:00,920 Speaker 4: Prime Minister Nittanyahu and said that he is the one 504 00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:05,040 Speaker 4: who's blocking the seasfire and the peace, No, that would 505 00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:08,640 Speaker 4: be Hamas. Hamas has turned down every single seat fire, 506 00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:11,200 Speaker 4: and even when they had a pause, all they did 507 00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:16,480 Speaker 4: was still lob missiles in Jerusalem and bombs with at checkpoints. 508 00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:20,119 Speaker 4: And I'm attacked now with Hesbela in the North. And 509 00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:23,760 Speaker 4: it's his party that supplied the billions of dollars to Iran, 510 00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:26,679 Speaker 4: that took off the sanctions that prime that President Trump 511 00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:30,200 Speaker 4: put on that evolved in Iran to give the money 512 00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:33,199 Speaker 4: to Hamas to Hesbela, and for him to push a 513 00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:36,560 Speaker 4: two state solution. Where's what is it going to be? 514 00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:38,320 Speaker 4: Hamas led. 515 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:42,399 Speaker 1: Professor, you're a very smart woman. Let me ask you 516 00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:46,440 Speaker 1: a question. Is I concur completely with your analysis here? 517 00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:50,840 Speaker 1: And this was political? And you know the idea that 518 00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:56,920 Speaker 1: America does anything short of encouraging, assisting and helping Israel 519 00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:02,360 Speaker 1: defeat the terrorists that attack them on October seventh, to me, 520 00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:07,120 Speaker 1: is morally repugnant. We didn't expect people to tell us 521 00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:10,520 Speaker 1: what to do after nine to eleven. You extrapolate out 522 00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:13,639 Speaker 1: for population, and as I said many times, it's about 523 00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:16,560 Speaker 1: forty thousand Americans in a single day that would have died. 524 00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:20,840 Speaker 1: And now you're very smart. Why did Chuck do this? 525 00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:24,520 Speaker 4: I think he did it to play kate the left, because. 526 00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:26,760 Speaker 1: They're ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding. 527 00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:30,080 Speaker 1: There you go. That is to play kate the radicals 528 00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:33,640 Speaker 1: that now run the Democratic Party. That's it. You nailed it. 529 00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:36,040 Speaker 1: You get an eight plus. I'm going to give you 530 00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:37,680 Speaker 1: a gold star. Professor. 531 00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:42,040 Speaker 4: Well, it's it's from listening to people like you, Sean. 532 00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:43,800 Speaker 4: You know, it rubs off on all of us. But 533 00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:46,920 Speaker 4: I think that they're so afraid that they're going to lose. 534 00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:50,120 Speaker 4: They thought how well President Trump did in Michigan and 535 00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:53,920 Speaker 4: Minnesota and all these states that they supposedly said they 536 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:57,720 Speaker 4: won last time around. But you know, they saw Pennsylvania 537 00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:01,160 Speaker 4: and they're just trying to basically. You know, you could 538 00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:03,520 Speaker 4: even see when when Biden was speaking at the State 539 00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:06,000 Speaker 4: of the Union, he was looking right at the squad. 540 00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:09,040 Speaker 4: He was aiming his remarks to them. He didn't look 541 00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:10,120 Speaker 4: like out. 542 00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:12,160 Speaker 1: Mean, let me, let me tell you what precipitated. There's 543 00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:15,880 Speaker 1: more than anything else. The Michigan primary for Joe Biden. 544 00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:21,719 Speaker 1: We're eighteen point nine percent of Democratic voters chose anybody 545 00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:25,600 Speaker 1: but Joe. That is what this is about. That is pathetic, 546 00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:29,040 Speaker 1: that is sad, it is what is it is everything 547 00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:34,080 Speaker 1: that is wrong in politics today. I can't say it 548 00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:35,760 Speaker 1: any better and. 549 00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:39,920 Speaker 4: They and they aren't. Speaker Johnson is trying to get 550 00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:43,120 Speaker 4: a standalone bill to support you know, Israel. I mean, 551 00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:46,000 Speaker 4: we've given billions to Ukraine and now he's talking about 552 00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:48,600 Speaker 4: like like they always want to do a package deal 553 00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:51,560 Speaker 4: where they throw in their other stuff that doesn't need 554 00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:54,320 Speaker 4: to be in there. And Speaker Johnson said, just a 555 00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:57,440 Speaker 4: standalone bill to Israel. They're fighting on two fronts. How 556 00:29:57,440 --> 00:29:59,560 Speaker 4: can you say you're an ally when we were hit 557 00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:03,080 Speaker 4: by nine eleven, Israel came here with their ambulances, with 558 00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:05,760 Speaker 4: their help. Now they need help, and it's like it's 559 00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:07,440 Speaker 4: words but actions. 560 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:10,320 Speaker 1: Let Let me give you how worse it gets, because 561 00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:12,680 Speaker 1: it was the same Joe Biden that's turned a blind 562 00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:15,760 Speaker 1: eye and allowed Iran and the Mullahs to get rich 563 00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:18,640 Speaker 1: again by selling oil in spite of the sanctions we 564 00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:20,920 Speaker 1: put on them. It was Joe Biden that was going 565 00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:25,240 Speaker 1: to pay six billion dollars in exchange for hostages as ransom. 566 00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:29,400 Speaker 1: It was Joe Biden that granted a sanctions waiver for 567 00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:33,880 Speaker 1: ten billion dollars in payments by Iraq. Joe Biden. Now, 568 00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:36,560 Speaker 1: now what they're trying to do is interfere in Israel's 569 00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:39,920 Speaker 1: elections and in the middle of a war. What they 570 00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:42,920 Speaker 1: want to they want bb Net and Yahoo's who's out 571 00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:45,840 Speaker 1: trying to win the war and protect Israel for in 572 00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:49,600 Speaker 1: perpetuity and tell him how to run his war. It's disgusting. 573 00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:53,480 Speaker 1: The whole thing is repulsive. Every American should be outraged. 574 00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:57,440 Speaker 4: President Trump should make that distinction when he gets out 575 00:30:57,480 --> 00:31:00,920 Speaker 4: there at his next rally. It's never been so clear 576 00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:04,280 Speaker 4: about everything that he did on behalf of the State 577 00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:07,560 Speaker 4: of Israel, on behalf of people of not just the Jewish, people, 578 00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:11,400 Speaker 4: of all religions. Christianity is under attack. We're all under attack. 579 00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:15,840 Speaker 4: And President Trump put in executive orders and last. 580 00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:19,440 Speaker 1: Donald Trump said to Israel, go win your war. That's 581 00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:23,239 Speaker 1: what he said. That was the right message. And what 582 00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:26,560 Speaker 1: we're doing here is you got the radicals that have 583 00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:31,080 Speaker 1: taken over the Democratic Party, the squad, et cetera, and 584 00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:33,920 Speaker 1: all the pressure that they've been using. Now you've got 585 00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:40,280 Speaker 1: Tuck Schumer. You know, it's repulsive, and they don't understand 586 00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:42,640 Speaker 1: the nature of evil in our time. It's too bad, 587 00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:43,959 Speaker 1: it's inexcusable.