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Speaker 1: The Around the NFL podcast is Sorry you didn't get

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Speaker 1: that quarterback you wanted.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to another edition of Around the NFL, a very

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Speaker 2: special edition of Around the NFL, the post draft edition of.

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Speaker 1: Around the NFL.

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Speaker 2: Seven rounds in the books and now we're gonna talk

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Speaker 2: about it. Dan Hands is here, Greg Rosenthal, Mark Sessler.

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Speaker 2: It really does feel finally, finally mark the end of

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Speaker 2: the yellow brick road. As we we're gonna have a

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Speaker 2: great episode today. We're gonna dig in on winners and losers.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna go check in on our sandwich props. We're

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Speaker 2: just gonna really kind of put this draft to bed

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Speaker 2: and then we are on some level set free until

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Speaker 2: training camp.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's interesting because I think day three of the

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Speaker 3: draft is it's a it's a long haul. But I

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Speaker 3: was thinking today as we were creeping from the six

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Speaker 3: old Culver, in the old newsroom, when the four of

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Speaker 3: us would be, you know, together in the in our

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Speaker 3: cube farm, waiting for it to end, that the minute

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Speaker 3: the show would end, you know, West would lead the

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Speaker 3: way out of the out of the newsroom to a

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Speaker 3: local tavern somewhere in Culver City, downtown Culver and.

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Speaker 1: We would typical it would be Rocos Iracos.

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Speaker 3: It was often and like we would sell or the cozy,

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Speaker 3: but we would celebrate what you're just mentioning that this

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Speaker 3: is a pivot point, a turning point in what is

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Speaker 3: an off season that barely exists until now.

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Speaker 4: I don't know, Dan, you know, we got we got

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Speaker 4: around the AFC and NFC coming up this week, we

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Speaker 4: got projected starter series is coming back.

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Speaker 1: You know exactly what I mean. And I love it.

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Speaker 4: I do love the feeling and I could feel it

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Speaker 4: on day two once like you start seeing these rosters,

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Speaker 4: because after day two it's it's guys, you're not expecting

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Speaker 4: now we've kind of got the talking points, we've got

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Speaker 4: the teams that we're gonna be talking and I'm ready

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Speaker 2: And yeah, of course the show will continue throughout the

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Speaker 2: rest of the spring and into the summer, and we're

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Speaker 2: going to have a lot of fun. But in terms

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Speaker 2: of like what's coming up, what lies ahead, the draft

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Speaker 2: was kind of the end of the beginning of the end.

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Speaker 2: That sounds right, and now we're going to talk about it.

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Speaker 2: And we kind of have a tradition on this Saturday show.

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Speaker 2: We do it winners and losers style. So why don't

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Speaker 2: we get it going? And Greg, why don't you get

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Speaker 4: Okay, I'm going to start with the Washington Commanders, who

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Speaker 4: I don't know if we gave full, like throated enthusiasm

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Speaker 4: it's a reminder they loaded up on draft picks. I'm

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Speaker 4: And I think the idea that they had of trading

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Speaker 3: And you know, Mike Sandras still the nickelback like they

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I think the other team that you'd mentioned,

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Speaker 3: Dan and you talk about like Snoozefest for years in

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Speaker 3: I think Caleb Williams is a big winner because there

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Speaker 3: To two offseasons ago, you're starting to realize, like this

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Speaker 4: and Rome of Dunese, I'm with you. I also liked

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Speaker 4: found his tweets just railing the play calling from like

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Speaker 4: Make the pain stop?

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Speaker 1: Please?

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Speaker 4: How come no one can call plays on this team?

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Speaker 4: I just love like seeing like a now a player

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Speaker 1: To complain about the play calling, but I like their

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Speaker 2: So Winners Commanders, Mark yours was the Bears right?

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Speaker 2: And you guys are killing me because that you've now

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Speaker 2: hit the both the ones I was going to talk about.

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Speaker 1: The Bears was almost too obvious, but you got to

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Speaker 1: lead with those two. I think the Bears the Bears like,

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Speaker 1: are you saying that? You're saying that? Mark? And it

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Speaker 1: brought it up and no, it was my too.

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Speaker 4: I just mean, like you get anyone is getting too

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Speaker 1: So that's how you do it.

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Speaker 2: I mean, And they'll have to block for him obviously

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Speaker 2: Over to losers and I'll start with the Dallas Cowboys.

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Speaker 2: It's been a tough offseason for the Dallas Cowboys. And

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Speaker 2: And it doesn't really matter if it's buzzy. Ultimately, the

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Speaker 2: this offseason. I just don't see it, and then you

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Speaker 2: a team that was desperate for running back help. Let's

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Speaker 2: listen to Jerry Jones here when he talks about a

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Speaker 1: They do it before.

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Speaker 5: That's true that you could give some kind of assessment

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Speaker 3: And how his recovery is coming from Mashields versus.

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Speaker 5: In my thirty years, I thought it was the best

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Speaker 5: We got him.

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Speaker 1: And he's a good showing the board, well, I got.

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Speaker 4: Who's on the far right on that day is I

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Speaker 2: If you play the rest of that clip, I'll just

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Speaker 2: there's a lot of other guys we like too, So

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Speaker 2: you get basically give away how desperate you are for

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Speaker 2: Elliott tells me everything about an organization that needs to

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Speaker 3: I'm with you, and like the I think the Ezekiel

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Speaker 1: And and there's you know it was too monchy, so

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Speaker 3: Here's the thing, because this is a team, this is

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Speaker 3: We're all in, we're gonna do everything. And I'm tired

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Speaker 4: Look, I think they ended up with a guy and

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Speaker 1: We'll see if that works out or not. But the

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Speaker 4: Not only did that lose me a sandwich by Jonathan

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Speaker 4: Of course they're aware of that, and they're probably aware

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Speaker 2: Jarro turns eighty two later this year, and I just

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Speaker 2: But my overall thought is like they already had the window,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the biggest concern for me is the change of

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Speaker 4: He has a no trade I mean a no tag

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Speaker 2: All right, how about another winner or a loser, anything

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Speaker 4: Greg Well, just because you mentioned it with Jonathan Brooks,

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Speaker 4: I know that they're hoping the offense, you know, help

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Speaker 4: in Jatavian Sanders. You spent all that money in the

438
00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:27,080
Speaker 4: off season on the offensive line, just like an exorbitant

439
00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:29,760
Speaker 4: amount of money. It's like, Okay, we're trying here. Like

440
00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:31,880
Speaker 4: they went into this draft trying to help Bryce hung

441
00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:36,280
Speaker 4: out as much as they could. Jatavian Sanders is a

442
00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:38,159
Speaker 4: pretty explosive tight end. Maybe it takes them a year

443
00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:40,639
Speaker 4: to get ready, but like, okay, three more offensive pieces.

444
00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:42,560
Speaker 4: We spent much on the line. It's like, at least

445
00:20:42,560 --> 00:20:45,560
Speaker 4: they're trying go Bryce Young, don't give up.

446
00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:47,320
Speaker 1: I'm with you.

447
00:20:47,359 --> 00:20:49,639
Speaker 3: I thought they they had a good draft, and I

448
00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:52,440
Speaker 3: mean they I think it makes sense because we saw

449
00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:54,639
Speaker 3: the Bills do this with Josh Allen in a hurry

450
00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:57,120
Speaker 3: and this was a Kyle Shanahan thing. Wherever he went

451
00:20:57,280 --> 00:20:59,359
Speaker 3: was like a mass weapons and get your kind of

452
00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:03,159
Speaker 3: offense together quickly. And I like what they've done for

453
00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:05,600
Speaker 3: Bryce Young this this offseason. There are, yes, there's some

454
00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:08,719
Speaker 3: question marks about parts of it, but it is wholly

455
00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:10,720
Speaker 3: better than where it was a year ago. And it's like,

456
00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:12,879
Speaker 3: you're gonna get a better read because I I don't

457
00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:15,600
Speaker 3: give him a total mulligan for last season, but it's

458
00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:17,960
Speaker 3: just kind of hard to assess who the player is

459
00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:21,040
Speaker 3: going forward based on that. You know, a total mess

460
00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:23,200
Speaker 3: of a campaign where the coach is getting fired. You're

461
00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:25,520
Speaker 3: already on your second. I like, I like the idea

462
00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:28,120
Speaker 3: of you're bringing a quarterback in Canalis, the guy that's

463
00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:29,560
Speaker 3: saved two quarterbacks in a row.

464
00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:30,760
Speaker 1: That's a good fit.

465
00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:32,440
Speaker 3: And then they're putting him in a position where we

466
00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:34,760
Speaker 3: can assess what Bryce Young is and then you've got

467
00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:39,880
Speaker 3: to make a hard decision if he's not improved. All right,

468
00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:42,960
Speaker 3: give us another one mark, So I'll give you a

469
00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:45,640
Speaker 3: winner with a loser folded inside of it. I thought

470
00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:49,919
Speaker 3: the Bengals had a good draft, and it's it. Maybe

471
00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:53,040
Speaker 3: maybe you don't love all of it because I know,

472
00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:55,399
Speaker 3: you know, we're communicating and we're hearing from like you know,

473
00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:57,280
Speaker 3: the Westling brothers, and they seem kind of hot and

474
00:21:57,320 --> 00:21:58,160
Speaker 3: cold with certain stuff.

475
00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:00,480
Speaker 1: But like, if you get the right version, we weren't.

476
00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:02,280
Speaker 4: Big on a Marius Mems, which I thought was a

477
00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:04,200
Speaker 4: shot worth taking at the spot.

478
00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:05,720
Speaker 1: I'm with you, and that's the thing. I think.

479
00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:07,800
Speaker 3: If you get like the upside, and I think they

480
00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:10,760
Speaker 3: trust that they can do that, then that's a good pick.

481
00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:13,919
Speaker 2: All right, Let's take a break and we'll do some

482
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Speaker 2: more winners and losers.

483
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Speaker 1: Just getting warmed up here. We'll be right back. Welcome back.

484
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Speaker 1: We're gonna do some winters and losers coming up in

485
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Speaker 1: these seconds. What love is that?

486
00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:35,679
Speaker 2: Why you're talking so fast while you're rotating in the

487
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Speaker 2: chair too.

488
00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:40,160
Speaker 1: You were giving a little audio fantasia there for us.

489
00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:44,040
Speaker 1: I like that. I don't know what fantasia means, but

490
00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:44,600
Speaker 1: I love it.

491
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Speaker 2: Welcome back, everybody, We are going to get back into

492
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Speaker 2: winters and losers, and we are. Let's talk about a

493
00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:54,520
Speaker 2: guy that's you know, he's been in our life for

494
00:22:54,560 --> 00:23:01,399
Speaker 2: a while now, and he's always struck me as a

495
00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:06,320
Speaker 2: unique individual. And it's hard to it's hard to really

496
00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:11,040
Speaker 2: put your finger on it. What it is that makes

497
00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:17,000
Speaker 2: him such a unique individual. What like what makes Chris

498
00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:26,680
Speaker 2: Ballard tick? Indianapolis Cults general manager since twenty seventeen. And

499
00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:29,000
Speaker 2: I guess I will say that it's good to have

500
00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:31,719
Speaker 2: a Chris Ballard in the league because he is going

501
00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:33,680
Speaker 2: to come at you and he's going to surprise you sometimes.

502
00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:37,520
Speaker 2: Sometimes will be by the way he looks like he's

503
00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:41,760
Speaker 2: growing his hair out, like twenty eleven era Tom Cruise

504
00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:47,080
Speaker 2: right now, like Tom Cruise Scientology video leaks era hair.

505
00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:50,480
Speaker 3: Or twenty eleven Tom Brady. I feel like he's bad.

506
00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:53,840
Speaker 2: Which is by far my least favorite Tom Brady hair era.

507
00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:56,480
Speaker 2: I did that one, Just that one threw me for

508
00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:59,040
Speaker 2: a loop. But anyway, with Ballard, it's like, Okay, you're

509
00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:02,199
Speaker 2: always going to keep us on our toes. And with

510
00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:06,520
Speaker 2: that said, he kept the entire media on their toes

511
00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:12,560
Speaker 2: when he sat down after the Friday drafting of a

512
00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:15,880
Speaker 2: wide receiver A done Mitchell, who is a very talented

513
00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:19,520
Speaker 2: player who I guess fell down or fell off some

514
00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:22,640
Speaker 2: draft boards because of reports.

515
00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:25,560
Speaker 1: Is important, reports of.

516
00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:29,960
Speaker 2: Character concerns, okay, and a lot of these reports were

517
00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:34,399
Speaker 2: not necessarily strongly sourced, but it's stuck to Mitchell, whether

518
00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:35,439
Speaker 2: he deserved to or not.

519
00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:36,000
Speaker 1: I can't.

520
00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:38,880
Speaker 2: I don't have the data or the research to tell

521
00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:40,800
Speaker 2: you whether this man should have been getting dinged with

522
00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:45,720
Speaker 2: character concerned reports. But what Chris Ballard doesn't like are

523
00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:47,920
Speaker 2: people throwing it out there and not putting their names

524
00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:48,440
Speaker 2: behind it.

525
00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:51,440
Speaker 1: So hit it, Chris, I don't.

526
00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:54,080
Speaker 7: I don't know. I mean I read some of the

527
00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:57,200
Speaker 7: bulls that was set on Tea. I mean just a

528
00:24:57,320 --> 00:25:04,639
Speaker 7: typical excuse my language, our typical league, unnamed sources, you know,

529
00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:09,119
Speaker 7: bad interview. That's such bullshit. I mean it is. It's bullshit,

530
00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:12,280
Speaker 7: like put your name, like, put your name on it.

531
00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:16,440
Speaker 7: I'm tired of we tear these young men down. These

532
00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:19,800
Speaker 7: are twenty one, twenty two young men. And if you can,

533
00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:22,640
Speaker 7: if people out there can tell me, they don't they're

534
00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:26,600
Speaker 7: perfect in their lives. It's crap, it's crap. This is

535
00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:30,560
Speaker 7: a good kid, and you know, for for that, for

536
00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:33,440
Speaker 7: those reports to come out, like you know, I said

537
00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:38,840
Speaker 7: it last year, it's it's bullshit. I'm sorry. I apologize

538
00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:40,480
Speaker 7: for the language. I don't but I do.

539
00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:46,000
Speaker 2: So he obviously that's that's mad. He's big mad there

540
00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:49,160
Speaker 2: about it. And I did like uh. And we'll learn

541
00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:52,080
Speaker 2: more about Mitchell and his NFL journey here now. But

542
00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:56,480
Speaker 2: he was asked, Mitchell the receiver was asked to describe

543
00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:59,360
Speaker 2: his game later that same day, and this is good.

544
00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:04,920
Speaker 2: His respects the best. That's like a Liam Gallagher type response.

545
00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:11,320
Speaker 4: That is a wild journey there, And look, I think

546
00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:14,600
Speaker 4: it worked out for Ballard. He ends up taking Lati

547
00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:18,639
Speaker 4: Latu in the first round, the top defensive player on

548
00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:20,880
Speaker 4: his board, clearly because he was the first one off

549
00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:23,080
Speaker 4: the board, and knowing this is a deep receiver class

550
00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:25,560
Speaker 4: and to have a guy like Adie Mitchell, who everyone

551
00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:27,320
Speaker 4: expected to go in the first round and had some

552
00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:30,359
Speaker 4: real number one receiver type traits fall to him. It

553
00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:34,000
Speaker 4: worked out well, and Ballard's mad, and I mean that's

554
00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:36,560
Speaker 4: a close it's a friend of Lanceserline, who's a friend

555
00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:41,120
Speaker 4: of the show. So that's a strong character connection there.

556
00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:43,160
Speaker 4: I think the issue with Mitchell though, and I'll put

557
00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:44,920
Speaker 4: my name on it, and I don't know. If I

558
00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:46,800
Speaker 4: don't know about the character stuff, there probably was stuff

559
00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:49,119
Speaker 4: out there I didn't see. But my issue was when

560
00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:50,760
Speaker 4: you watched him, it just like looked like he was

561
00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:53,399
Speaker 4: going half speed like a lot of the time, Like

562
00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:55,240
Speaker 4: he just didn't go all out every route.

563
00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:56,679
Speaker 1: And so that's not a character issue.

564
00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:58,879
Speaker 4: And there could be conversations about why that happened and

565
00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:00,639
Speaker 4: why that didn't, but that's gonna take him off some

566
00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:03,280
Speaker 4: people's boards of like a guy that you didn't feel

567
00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:07,280
Speaker 4: was giving one hundred percent every single snap in college,

568
00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:09,080
Speaker 4: and there might be reasons for that, and clearly the

569
00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:11,440
Speaker 4: Colts don't mind. And he's probably gonna play right away

570
00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:13,560
Speaker 4: over Alec Pierce. He's a better version of Alec Pierce

571
00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:16,280
Speaker 4: Ballard definitely. I mean, we've got a lot of you know,

572
00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:20,440
Speaker 4: track record with him. He certainly likes traits and players.

573
00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:23,879
Speaker 4: He wants big, strong, lanky, tall guys and like the

574
00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:26,960
Speaker 4: Colts are built around him and like in other organizations,

575
00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:29,320
Speaker 4: like I'm not sure he would have survived because they

576
00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:33,600
Speaker 4: misfired on the quarterback situation post Andrew Luck so many times.

577
00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:36,159
Speaker 4: But I will say this about Ballard Dan like he

578
00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:39,240
Speaker 4: looks about twelve years younger to me right now. The hair,

579
00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:41,199
Speaker 4: the skin, I don't know what's going on.

580
00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:43,560
Speaker 3: It's like there's a bit of a glow up happening

581
00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:45,800
Speaker 3: there and like it's yet we like, I I know

582
00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:49,639
Speaker 3: you've had like Ballard personality, I don't know what it

583
00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:51,720
Speaker 3: is or just like the overall vibe of him. You know,

584
00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:53,800
Speaker 3: the favorite type of frog thing too, that's just that's

585
00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:57,000
Speaker 3: that's out there. But like he to me looks about

586
00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:59,399
Speaker 3: as good as he's ever looked. He's had an incredible

587
00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:00,760
Speaker 3: the frog thing.

588
00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:03,520
Speaker 1: What's your favorite type of frog? What's your favorite type

589
00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:07,640
Speaker 1: of frog? We know it was just gaslight mark and say,

590
00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:09,080
Speaker 1: we have no idea what you're talking about.

591
00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:12,879
Speaker 3: Two if you were on that hill together because of

592
00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:14,760
Speaker 3: a combine experience, I understand that, but like.

593
00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:16,840
Speaker 1: Would you famously ask that.

594
00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:20,080
Speaker 3: Would you say that he do you not agree that

595
00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:24,000
Speaker 3: he looks younger in fresher And this is one of

596
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:25,840
Speaker 3: the biggest takeaway I have from one of the biggest

597
00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:27,000
Speaker 3: takeaways I have from the draft.

598
00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:29,919
Speaker 2: Sure, yeah, I think he looks good for his age.

599
00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:34,040
Speaker 2: And I think, uh, I think going back to that

600
00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:37,880
Speaker 2: standing in Indianapolis, Greg, you and I next each other,

601
00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:41,000
Speaker 2: and and and watching him address the media for the

602
00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:43,720
Speaker 2: first time all those years ago, like this, what happened

603
00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:47,480
Speaker 2: today is kind of hammering home that, like what that

604
00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:50,280
Speaker 2: initial observation, like, this guy just feels a little different.

605
00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:52,680
Speaker 2: He's he's got a little he's got a little something

606
00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:54,560
Speaker 2: to him, a little piss and vinegar, a little bit

607
00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:57,480
Speaker 2: of an unpredictable nature to him. Maybe he's a perfect

608
00:28:57,520 --> 00:28:59,320
Speaker 2: GM for ownership with Jim Irs.

609
00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:02,000
Speaker 4: You know something you can't quite put a finger on.

610
00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:07,120
Speaker 4: But Eric Eric Hebron did that. This story got passed

611
00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:10,760
Speaker 4: around so long that Eric Ebron responded to it and said,

612
00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:13,720
Speaker 4: this is the same dude that trashed my name throughout

613
00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:17,120
Speaker 4: the league, said he said I quit after I played,

614
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:20,240
Speaker 4: knowing I needed surgery. This is cap So he's saying

615
00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:22,560
Speaker 4: that Ballard is just grand standing about a g Adie

616
00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:24,760
Speaker 4: Mitchell and I think he's the worst GM ever.

617
00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:27,520
Speaker 1: So that's yes, that's Eric Brown. Okay.

618
00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:31,720
Speaker 4: I was like, okay, I didn't know this was a thing,

619
00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:35,520
Speaker 4: but I guess it was a thing, all right. I

620
00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:37,720
Speaker 4: have one connected to that good Colts team because I

621
00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:40,239
Speaker 4: thought they were connected. That the Colts and Chargers were

622
00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:43,400
Speaker 4: winners for the same reason, just that that they passed

623
00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:46,120
Speaker 4: on wide receivers at spots that they absolutely could have.

624
00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:49,400
Speaker 4: And if the Chargers had Malik Neighbors or the Colts

625
00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:52,040
Speaker 4: to Brian Thomas Junior, like I would have liked those picks.

626
00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:54,520
Speaker 4: But if you look at the combination of what they got,

627
00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:59,160
Speaker 4: the Colts got Lots and Mitchell, and then the Chargers

628
00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:02,160
Speaker 4: got Joe all like a really great tackle prospect, and

629
00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:05,440
Speaker 4: you get lo Lad mcconckiy in the second round. You

630
00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:08,160
Speaker 4: make those decisions not in a vacuum, knowing that receiver

631
00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:10,960
Speaker 4: is deeper this year, that the two pack you're getting

632
00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:13,360
Speaker 4: with your two premium picks is going to be better

633
00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:17,400
Speaker 4: perhaps if you pass on the wide receiver early. And

634
00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:20,120
Speaker 4: I just think the Chargers headed at a nice week.

635
00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:23,640
Speaker 4: They also got Junior Colson. It's probably gonna.

636
00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:24,120
Speaker 1: Start right away.

637
00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:27,719
Speaker 4: Just a David Harris clone is kind of his his

638
00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:30,160
Speaker 4: mo O, and he played for Jim Harbaugh, and it's

639
00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:32,000
Speaker 4: just like, it's just so nice to have Harbor. I

640
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:36,200
Speaker 4: mentioned the quote the other day, Randy behind the Virtual Glass.

641
00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:38,840
Speaker 4: Let's let's play the the other Jim Harbaugh quote talking

642
00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:40,920
Speaker 4: about his brother texting him.

643
00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:41,440
Speaker 1: During the drift.

644
00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:45,680
Speaker 6: My brother texted me getting after the pick and he said,

645
00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:50,680
Speaker 6: that's that's who I would have taken if if he

646
00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:55,720
Speaker 6: was at that picks.

647
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:00,680
Speaker 1: In the phone.

648
00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:03,880
Speaker 6: Let's see.

649
00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:06,640
Speaker 1: Taking the phone.

650
00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:11,400
Speaker 6: Oh, I haven't texted him back there. We'd be an

651
00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:12,840
Speaker 6: appropriate response there.

652
00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:16,680
Speaker 1: Thumbs up and I'll.

653
00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:22,200
Speaker 6: I'll give him a.

654
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:26,080
Speaker 1: Oh wow, that's that's cool. Like my dad, Keith Hansas.

655
00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:26,360
Speaker 5: Uh.

656
00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:28,560
Speaker 2: I feel like in the last eighteen months or so

657
00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:31,560
Speaker 2: started rocking with emojis for the first time, and it's

658
00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:35,400
Speaker 2: it's a jarring moment. And I think Jim Harbaugh using

659
00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:37,880
Speaker 2: emojis is not something I could ever admit. And I

660
00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:39,680
Speaker 2: think he was playing along there. He had no idea

661
00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:41,880
Speaker 2: what they were talking about. In terms of putting a

662
00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:44,520
Speaker 2: thumbs up. He probably wrote thumbs up, that would be

663
00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:47,080
Speaker 2: a move that feels like a Jim Harbaugh move. I

664
00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:49,080
Speaker 2: I'm glad you brought up the Chargers there too, because

665
00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:52,240
Speaker 2: I agree. I think the only thing I was nervous

666
00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:56,200
Speaker 2: with the Harball hire was that he's he's such a

667
00:31:56,320 --> 00:32:00,440
Speaker 2: huge personality and character at this point that he's almost

668
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:02,280
Speaker 2: too big for a team like the Chargers, and it

669
00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:06,080
Speaker 2: could lead to some chaos with him being unchecked power

670
00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:09,600
Speaker 2: wise and some strange stuff going on, like, for instance,

671
00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:13,400
Speaker 2: you know, answering the phone when the Patriots called about

672
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:14,960
Speaker 2: a trade of Justin Herbert, and I just feel like

673
00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:17,520
Speaker 2: it's been a sensible I know it was a little

674
00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:21,640
Speaker 2: dicey there in free agency when they essentially dump their

675
00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:24,640
Speaker 2: top two wide receivers, but that's also there's a logic

676
00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:28,640
Speaker 2: behind that those are thirty something receivers with injury histories,

677
00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:32,080
Speaker 2: and to take the best offensive lineman prospect in a

678
00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:35,120
Speaker 2: couple of years number one McConkey feels like a very

679
00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:39,720
Speaker 2: Jim Harbaugh guy. And as much as we all can

680
00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:43,120
Speaker 2: argue about Justin Herbert about at what level and how

681
00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:47,640
Speaker 2: special truly is Herbert entering year five, Like, give him

682
00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:50,600
Speaker 2: weapons and give him stability, and give him a good

683
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:53,680
Speaker 2: offensive line, and you're gonna get some real hard answers.

684
00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:55,959
Speaker 2: So I think the Chargers are set up well here.

685
00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:58,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's kind of like we talked about the Commanders

686
00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:01,720
Speaker 3: and the Bears being different to us, and the Chargers

687
00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:05,360
Speaker 3: to me, you know, year after year, like no matter

688
00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:08,560
Speaker 3: who was in charge, seemed to be snake bit by

689
00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:12,840
Speaker 3: the same football god, ill luck and misfortunes it did.

690
00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:14,600
Speaker 3: They just seem the same to me always, And it's

691
00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:16,640
Speaker 3: like they feel very different to me now. And I think,

692
00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:19,120
Speaker 3: like like Lad McConkie, and we've talked about him a

693
00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:21,959
Speaker 3: little bit before on the show. I mean, justin Herbert's

694
00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:24,080
Speaker 3: gonna love him, and I think that Alt is an

695
00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:25,240
Speaker 3: absolute home run pick.

696
00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:27,800
Speaker 1: So it's like the Chargers to me, there's some different energy.

697
00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:30,480
Speaker 3: And I think the Harball thing is not just you know,

698
00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:32,800
Speaker 3: a bunch of headlines and a bunch of personality, Like

699
00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:33,880
Speaker 3: there's a real plan here.

700
00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:36,560
Speaker 4: And I identified him with as like an aging man

701
00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:39,880
Speaker 4: who very often like sees a text I enjoy kind

702
00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:41,560
Speaker 4: of look at it, laugh, but I'm in the middle

703
00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:44,800
Speaker 4: of something and then I completely forget to ever respond,

704
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:47,000
Speaker 4: and then you're just I just figure, well, I guess

705
00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:48,120
Speaker 4: don't ever respond.

706
00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:48,680
Speaker 1: It's fine.

707
00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:51,760
Speaker 4: You know, people, they're gonna have to understand it. It's

708
00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:54,440
Speaker 4: a totally different vibe with the Chargers, though, Jim Harborten,

709
00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:55,720
Speaker 4: we got to get to this at some point in

710
00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:58,560
Speaker 4: the off season. Is living in an RV park next

711
00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:02,160
Speaker 4: to Greg Roman. I mean, that is just it's amazing content.

712
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:04,840
Speaker 4: And then the Chargers have built out some content.

713
00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:05,560
Speaker 1: I think, dis.

714
00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:09,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, we bring that up, but that doesn't mean that

715
00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:12,000
Speaker 3: we can't dig deeper into that, into that top. I

716
00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:15,160
Speaker 3: have a winner that I'm like a little hesitant or

717
00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:17,880
Speaker 3: flat out kind of scared to bring up on this show.

718
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:20,040
Speaker 3: I don't so I'm I don't know if I should

719
00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:20,279
Speaker 3: or not.

720
00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:23,960
Speaker 1: But it's up to you guys, please, I mean, now

721
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:24,480
Speaker 1: you have to.

722
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:28,120
Speaker 3: I mean, I know, I know it's a little on

723
00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:32,160
Speaker 3: the nose, but if you're the Eagles and you get

724
00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:34,200
Speaker 3: Quenyon Mitchell falls to you.

725
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:35,560
Speaker 1: But we already did this.

726
00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:39,520
Speaker 2: I already remember that reumptively named them winners on Wednesday.

727
00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:41,520
Speaker 1: Okay, but there's more to it, I would say.

728
00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:43,480
Speaker 3: I I think that, like, for instance, some of their

729
00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:47,120
Speaker 3: other picks like will Shipley is a very interesting running back,

730
00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:49,560
Speaker 3: like Cooper Dejean, who I think is a loser in

731
00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:52,560
Speaker 3: terms of money because I had him going like at

732
00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:54,080
Speaker 3: twenty and a lot of people had him going in

733
00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:54,640
Speaker 3: the twenties.

734
00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:56,359
Speaker 1: But he falls to the second round.

735
00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:59,080
Speaker 3: He goes at forty, but it's a great landing spot,

736
00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:00,600
Speaker 3: so he's kind of a winner. It's kind of if

737
00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:02,919
Speaker 3: you ever, like were younger, and you took a job

738
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:04,600
Speaker 3: that felt better to you, that had a little bit

739
00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:06,239
Speaker 3: less money attached to it, and you made a good

740
00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:09,360
Speaker 3: decision on top of that, Like they resigned a j.

741
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:09,719
Speaker 1: Brown.

742
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:12,879
Speaker 3: We talked about that, but Jeremiah Trotter is we've we've

743
00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:14,000
Speaker 3: mentioned that we'll get the best.

744
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:16,160
Speaker 1: But it's like they did.

745
00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:19,359
Speaker 3: They did, they did, they had, They didn't over they

746
00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:21,120
Speaker 3: didn't trade up to get stuff that they that they

747
00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:24,040
Speaker 3: had to overspend for quality failed to them.

748
00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:24,879
Speaker 1: So there's some luck there.

749
00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:27,319
Speaker 3: It's not all Howie Roseman is a demi god from

750
00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:29,560
Speaker 3: a different part of the solar system. But it's like

751
00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:33,000
Speaker 3: luck but smart decision making. They got better. Like their

752
00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:35,359
Speaker 3: secondary quietly needed a lot of work, I thought, and

753
00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:37,480
Speaker 3: like they addressed it, and so it was just a

754
00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:41,839
Speaker 3: very solid draft for the Eagles. Where you're walking away

755
00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:44,880
Speaker 3: thinking like this was a chaotic end of the last season,

756
00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:47,279
Speaker 3: but we've kind of reset the board to some degree.

757
00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:50,719
Speaker 2: At this point, there's two there's two conversations, and they're

758
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:55,200
Speaker 2: separate conversations. So that's that's important. Like my take that

759
00:35:55,239 --> 00:36:00,720
Speaker 2: I've shared that I feel like NFL media in general

760
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:03,319
Speaker 2: is filled with a lot of copycats and people that

761
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:06,960
Speaker 2: just prib the notes off people who are seen as

762
00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:09,280
Speaker 2: tastemakers in terms of opinion.

763
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:11,760
Speaker 1: I think that's I think that is an.

764
00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:17,279
Speaker 2: Epidemic that that as somebody who listen, you may think

765
00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:19,720
Speaker 2: Dan gets a lot things right, a lot of things wrong.

766
00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:22,800
Speaker 2: But I tell you, every opinion I have is my opinion,

767
00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:25,920
Speaker 2: and sometimes I think, and it's something that actually comes

768
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:27,839
Speaker 2: from how I feel and I share it.

769
00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:28,719
Speaker 1: There's too much.

770
00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:31,560
Speaker 2: There's too much out there, people aligning themselves with people

771
00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:34,920
Speaker 2: whose opinions are respected on a higher level. Greg's part

772
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:37,840
Speaker 2: of the problem with this, and and I think, what, No,

773
00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:39,480
Speaker 2: you're not a part of the problem. But Greg, you

774
00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:41,120
Speaker 2: are one of the taste makers, by the way, and

775
00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:42,319
Speaker 2: that's a credit I'll give to you.

776
00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:42,680
Speaker 1: I know.

777
00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:44,600
Speaker 2: That's why it makes you a little uncomfortable bringing up

778
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:47,279
Speaker 2: because Greg has has.

779
00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:50,760
Speaker 4: Influence just like like the same sort of team building

780
00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:54,120
Speaker 4: that like how he is into we've been too Eagles

781
00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:56,880
Speaker 4: since twenty seventeen, but they Greg, Greg Dan is.

782
00:36:56,920 --> 00:37:00,760
Speaker 3: Right, but there is a how we hero worship element

783
00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:03,040
Speaker 3: that like, yeah, I'm not even on Twitter, I don't

784
00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:04,640
Speaker 3: and you do check it out once in a while.

785
00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:05,920
Speaker 1: And I think Dan's got a point there.

786
00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:09,600
Speaker 2: And you have that, you have a platform Greg within

787
00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:12,960
Speaker 2: the football Gagna Zancty, and you're not alone and there

788
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:15,000
Speaker 2: are other people that think Howie and his team are

789
00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:18,239
Speaker 2: really sharp and and so that's that's part one of this.

790
00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:20,239
Speaker 2: Now Part two is the theory I have and I

791
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:26,440
Speaker 2: think why this keeps happening every year. I believe the

792
00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:28,799
Speaker 2: Eagles are very online. This is a theory I have

793
00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:32,920
Speaker 2: and the Eagles. So when all of these boards come

794
00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:35,480
Speaker 2: out about these draft boards, about who's a good value

795
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:39,680
Speaker 2: who these mocks, isn't it funny that the guys that

796
00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:41,840
Speaker 2: are widely mocked in the first round then fall to

797
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:43,880
Speaker 2: the later rounds, it's always the Eagles that are the

798
00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:47,160
Speaker 2: ones that get those guys. So I think the Eagles

799
00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:52,120
Speaker 2: are the decisions they make are very similar to the

800
00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:55,960
Speaker 2: mock draft community, the top mock draft community people. And

801
00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:58,400
Speaker 2: then when they take that guy that, oh wait, he

802
00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:00,839
Speaker 2: was supposed to go twenty three, but he's going thirty eight,

803
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:03,600
Speaker 2: and everybody's like, oh my god, the Eagles done it again.

804
00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:06,279
Speaker 2: Maybe the Eagles aren't doing any work at all, and

805
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:09,279
Speaker 2: they are just like basically studying, like Daniel Jeremiah is

806
00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:12,600
Speaker 2: top fifty or mel Kiper's big board, and they're taking

807
00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:14,560
Speaker 2: whoever's the highest left pick. It's like the guy in

808
00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:18,439
Speaker 2: your fantasy league who doesn't know anything but just takes

809
00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:20,759
Speaker 2: best available player and then you're like, whoa, how did

810
00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:23,439
Speaker 2: that person last into the third round? I think that's

811
00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:26,640
Speaker 2: a little thing's Eagles. So I got multiple theories out there.

812
00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:27,000
Speaker 1: Greg.

813
00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:30,000
Speaker 2: I respect your football knowledge you are. I'm not saying

814
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:33,040
Speaker 2: you're part of the problem, but it's people that then

815
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:38,719
Speaker 2: follow the people that are deemed the intellectual taste makers

816
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:43,280
Speaker 2: of football universe that are on my radar. Good job, Eagles.

817
00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:45,919
Speaker 2: It looks like you got better and you better get better.

818
00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:49,400
Speaker 4: I love this theory because it just shows what a

819
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:54,200
Speaker 4: boondoggle it is for the roughly thirty seven men and women,

820
00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:58,320
Speaker 4: mostly men. Let's be real, in suits in a white

821
00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:00,680
Speaker 4: shirt with no tie. There's like an Eagle uniform that

822
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:03,160
Speaker 4: is the most crowded draft room I've ever seen. There's

823
00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:06,840
Speaker 4: thirty dudes with suits on, but all they're doing is

824
00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:09,719
Speaker 4: printing out the Consensus big board. And you know what,

825
00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:12,200
Speaker 4: there's actually a real answer, so that you might be

826
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:16,400
Speaker 4: onto something here in reality, because the Ravens and the

827
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:18,279
Speaker 4: Bengals are like this too. There are a lot of

828
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:21,600
Speaker 4: analytical thinking that like if you go by the consensus

829
00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:24,480
Speaker 4: big board, if you go way off, for instance, a

830
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:28,800
Speaker 4: consensus big board, like over time, it's been proven production wise,

831
00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:33,120
Speaker 4: like the Consensus big board actually does outperform basically anything

832
00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:35,239
Speaker 4: else that you could do, you really could draft off.

833
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:37,719
Speaker 4: And the consensus big board Aurifasann who's been on our

834
00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:39,800
Speaker 4: show he puts it together, is from like one hundred

835
00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:42,880
Speaker 4: big boards, And you're kind of right that if you

836
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:45,239
Speaker 4: do go off that over time it's been proven like

837
00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:48,759
Speaker 4: that's pretty effective to maybe not be like the Jaguars

838
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:52,239
Speaker 4: who are always taking guys like fifty spots before they

839
00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:52,880
Speaker 4: were supposed to go.

840
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:55,959
Speaker 3: I think you make a compelling point, Dan with your

841
00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:58,400
Speaker 3: with your theory, and there is probably an element of

842
00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:01,400
Speaker 3: truth to everything you're saying. But the other way you

843
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:03,680
Speaker 3: can go in the draft is be a team like,

844
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:06,160
Speaker 3: you know, like we talked about this a bunch the

845
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:08,760
Speaker 3: other night, but like the Falcons, that takes Michael Pennix

846
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:10,680
Speaker 3: when no one thought you would take them there, and

847
00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:13,520
Speaker 3: then they took a defensive tackle. You know, next that,

848
00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:15,239
Speaker 3: like people are saying, wait a minute, that guy's meant

849
00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:16,840
Speaker 3: to go in like the fourth or fifth round, and

850
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:21,520
Speaker 3: it's like suddenly things start to look nonsensical, slightly dark,

851
00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:25,880
Speaker 3: slightly crazy, and it's like that fan base that front

852
00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:27,840
Speaker 3: office is thinking differently and not thinking the way the

853
00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:28,480
Speaker 3: public things.

854
00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:30,000
Speaker 1: But do we like that? You know?

855
00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:32,120
Speaker 2: I think I've made my point on the Falcons clear,

856
00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:35,320
Speaker 2: but like I think the Eagles are very well run

857
00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:38,319
Speaker 2: and not overthinking things I think helps you a lot.

858
00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:40,760
Speaker 1: I also think there's the NFL.

859
00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:44,799
Speaker 2: Now forget about the COGNITCENTI, the NFL is also a

860
00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:48,760
Speaker 2: copycat league in thinking a lot and when a player

861
00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:51,200
Speaker 2: starts dropping down the board, I think there's a lot

862
00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:53,279
Speaker 2: of teams that go like, oh, if so and so

863
00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:55,520
Speaker 2: doesn't like them, why should we like them? And to

864
00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:57,879
Speaker 2: the Eagles credit, I don't think they think the same way.

865
00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:00,400
Speaker 2: I think if they they like a player, they go

866
00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:04,080
Speaker 2: and get them. So there, I guess that the overarching

867
00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:07,719
Speaker 2: theory here is that the reason why they keep on

868
00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:12,960
Speaker 2: being the bell of the ball is their their draft style,

869
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:19,719
Speaker 2: like and their draft methods and mythology methodology connects with

870
00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:22,960
Speaker 2: what everyone's obsessing about for four months and with their

871
00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:25,000
Speaker 2: mocks and all the things that they're obsessed with. So

872
00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:27,480
Speaker 2: when the Eagles make the pick that everyone's been spending

873
00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:29,960
Speaker 2: weeks and weeks about these certain players, it's.

874
00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:33,640
Speaker 1: Like, yes, the Eagles, they did it. You're right, they

875
00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:37,200
Speaker 1: legitimized not just their roster but me. You're right.

876
00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:38,799
Speaker 3: But Greg, I'd asked you a question, like, why do

877
00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:42,120
Speaker 3: you think that Cooper dejen fell? I think that was

878
00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:45,040
Speaker 3: a genuine surprise that he felt that even that far

879
00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:46,160
Speaker 3: into the second round.

880
00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:47,759
Speaker 1: I think he can do a lot.

881
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:49,880
Speaker 3: He's a good return man, which matters a lot this

882
00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:53,080
Speaker 3: at least this season, as a you know, in today's NFL,

883
00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:55,640
Speaker 3: it's like he seemed like almost any team could use him,

884
00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:57,840
Speaker 3: and it's like a lot of teams did not agree

885
00:41:57,840 --> 00:41:58,400
Speaker 3: with the value.

886
00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:01,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that maybe people viewed him as a

887
00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:04,719
Speaker 4: tweeter and they didn't quite know where to put him.

888
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:08,239
Speaker 4: And like, honestly, being a white cornerback, I honestly think

889
00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:10,239
Speaker 4: that's that's an issue, like Bomani Jones talks about it

890
00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:12,480
Speaker 4: a lot, like joking it's like white coaches let your

891
00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:14,560
Speaker 4: athletes stay at cornerback, they always end up moving him

892
00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:16,120
Speaker 4: to safety. They never end up getting a chance to

893
00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:18,920
Speaker 4: stay and play at safety, like this is a crazy athlete.

894
00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:21,640
Speaker 4: But he did show versatility and maybe just people didn't

895
00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:25,960
Speaker 4: quite like he didn't fit the profile in they saw

896
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:27,720
Speaker 4: him as a safety and a guy you move inside

897
00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:29,840
Speaker 4: who goes later. By the way, you share your opinion

898
00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:33,080
Speaker 4: Dan with Bill Barnwell who said he responded to something

899
00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:35,480
Speaker 4: I said about how he that like you, you know,

900
00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:37,799
Speaker 4: how he's done it again was trending on Twitter, and

901
00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:40,080
Speaker 4: he was like, as Mike Curse with Alice, he could

902
00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:42,040
Speaker 4: and I think he's basically saying the same thing as

903
00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:44,279
Speaker 4: you in a different way that I think he's consistently

904
00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:49,080
Speaker 4: a B plus GM And when he's down, people don't

905
00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:51,720
Speaker 4: like him because he's sort of defending him. But mostly

906
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:53,880
Speaker 4: when he's good, people are mad at him because, like

907
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:55,920
Speaker 4: he points out, you know, the bad picks like the

908
00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:58,040
Speaker 4: Andre Dillard pick and the Jordan Davis pick, which he

909
00:42:58,080 --> 00:42:59,560
Speaker 4: got a lot of credit for. The keiey Ringo pick

910
00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:01,839
Speaker 4: last year Allequate, It's like he has plenty of missus too.

911
00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:04,000
Speaker 1: He was not there. You mentioned it last week. He

912
00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:05,080
Speaker 1: was hot for Zach Wilson.

913
00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:07,960
Speaker 4: I mean, right right, you know who's got to becoming

914
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:10,880
Speaker 4: the Eagles and just a quick winner is the Lions.

915
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:14,719
Speaker 4: Like the Lions secondary and the Lions confidence like their

916
00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:17,600
Speaker 4: hootspa right now that you trade up for Arnold, that

917
00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:20,280
Speaker 4: was a great pick Terry and Arnold. And then you

918
00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:23,719
Speaker 4: you stick and you take another corner who was by

919
00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:27,160
Speaker 4: far the highest guy on the board for Daniel Jeremiah's

920
00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:29,840
Speaker 4: big board enis Rakestraw Junior, and you just kind of

921
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:32,799
Speaker 4: take the value in between those two guys in Carlton Davis.

922
00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:35,479
Speaker 4: You've really remade your your cornerback group.

923
00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:36,080
Speaker 1: And that's great.

924
00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:37,839
Speaker 4: But the thing that makes me realize like they're they're

925
00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:40,640
Speaker 4: a little getting high on their own supply in a

926
00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:42,880
Speaker 4: good way. They've been confident to take bold picks is

927
00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:46,720
Speaker 4: they traded a third round pick next year to draft

928
00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:52,560
Speaker 4: Giovanni Manu, a player that was not invited to the

929
00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:55,200
Speaker 4: Scouting Combine, with pick one six. So they paid a

930
00:43:55,239 --> 00:43:57,560
Speaker 4: third next year for pick one twenty six a three

931
00:43:57,640 --> 00:44:01,279
Speaker 4: hundred and sixty pound tackle from the universe of British Columbia.

932
00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:03,880
Speaker 4: And they they think it's like they're Jordan Mailatta and

933
00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:06,399
Speaker 4: that he wasn't gonna necessarily fall that much further.

934
00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:06,959
Speaker 1: And that's great.

935
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:10,080
Speaker 4: They have conviction about it and they believe like they

936
00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:12,040
Speaker 4: are the team to turnhim into gold. But that that's

937
00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:14,680
Speaker 4: a that's a gutsy pick to trade a third for

938
00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:15,360
Speaker 4: a guy.

939
00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:17,520
Speaker 1: That you know it was playing in Canada.

940
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:22,680
Speaker 3: Mark, you got one I do, and it's it's a

941
00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:24,640
Speaker 3: player who's already in the league. And I think it's

942
00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:27,479
Speaker 3: Brock Party because we were in this forty eight hour

943
00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:30,640
Speaker 3: window where like I think at the right, you know,

944
00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:34,480
Speaker 3: situation have been presented. Either Deebo Samuel or Brandon Ayuk

945
00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:36,880
Speaker 3: are not on the team anymore. Instead they're both on

946
00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:38,840
Speaker 3: the team. They're not going to get traded, and you

947
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:41,480
Speaker 3: add Ricky Parasol. So it's like you actually just added

948
00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:44,720
Speaker 3: a weapon during a weekend when you know, cap money,

949
00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:48,160
Speaker 3: whatever situations relationships could have taken. Brock Purty in a

950
00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:51,200
Speaker 3: very critical third year with a Super Bowl window open,

951
00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:53,520
Speaker 3: had taken one of his biggest weapons away. So you know,

952
00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:55,879
Speaker 3: some of this stuff that we had talked about for

953
00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:59,240
Speaker 3: forty days, like Ayuk and Samuel came up more recently.

954
00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:01,919
Speaker 3: But it's like in the end, like what the move

955
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:04,560
Speaker 3: that doesn't happen could end up being the biggest move

956
00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:06,160
Speaker 3: for one of the best teams in the league.

957
00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:09,920
Speaker 2: Did you see Ayuk texted the Niners maybe it was

958
00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:13,279
Speaker 2: Lynch or Shanahan after the pearce All pick. He's like

959
00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:16,279
Speaker 2: that pick was fire and not gonna lie. And then

960
00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:19,239
Speaker 2: I saw somebody on Twitter pointed out, like that's like

961
00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:22,400
Speaker 2: the that's a text scent from a guy that feels confident.

962
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:24,040
Speaker 1: He's not the guy that's going to be traded if

963
00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:25,800
Speaker 1: a trade gets made. Exactly.

964
00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:28,480
Speaker 4: He sent like an ig story too, like dancing around

965
00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:30,080
Speaker 4: this week and I think he is gonna get paid.

966
00:45:30,080 --> 00:45:35,720
Speaker 4: But Deebo spoke to Diana Ricini and said the team.

967
00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:37,600
Speaker 4: He didn't say it that the team told him about

968
00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:40,480
Speaker 4: possibly trading him or not, but she asked about the

969
00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:42,440
Speaker 4: reports and he just said, I know what's going on.

970
00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:45,200
Speaker 4: It is what it is. I'm good with staying with them.

971
00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:48,000
Speaker 4: I'm chilling. And the way the forty nine ers talked

972
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:49,799
Speaker 4: about it after is I think they were probably open

973
00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:51,960
Speaker 4: with him that like, hey, we did have these conversations,

974
00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:54,200
Speaker 4: and the way they spoke publicly, it sounded like that

975
00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:56,000
Speaker 4: door has closed now and that they're all going to

976
00:45:56,080 --> 00:45:56,359
Speaker 4: be there.

977
00:45:56,440 --> 00:46:00,439
Speaker 1: And so you're right, perty's a big winner. This one's

978
00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:01,719
Speaker 1: kind of tough to classify.

979
00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:09,520
Speaker 2: Uh, Tony Khan, who's the right man, the right hand

980
00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:15,279
Speaker 2: man of Shod Khan Jaguars owner. First of all, I

981
00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:20,279
Speaker 2: believe he's still wearing the neck brace. Uh, and that

982
00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:23,560
Speaker 2: doesn't surprise me. Let's start here today he was today. Yeah,

983
00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:25,719
Speaker 2: because when you suffer a neck injury and on a

984
00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:31,799
Speaker 2: on a pile driver still paddling this one, it's not

985
00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:34,480
Speaker 2: the idea that you're going to get better in a day.

986
00:46:34,719 --> 00:46:36,800
Speaker 1: It might be months, it could be years.

987
00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:42,000
Speaker 2: So I hope, I hope Tony's okay, because, uh, you know,

988
00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:45,200
Speaker 2: despite Greg following, you know, tens of thousands of people

989
00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:50,000
Speaker 2: that are wrestling fanatics, you seem to not understand that

990
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:51,520
Speaker 2: the the the bumps are very real.

991
00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:57,479
Speaker 4: Well, here here's another one that's on the Pat McAfee show.

992
00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:00,239
Speaker 4: He was getting on Tony Kahan. He said, if you're

993
00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:02,960
Speaker 4: gonna wear the neck brace and sell it, stop moving

994
00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:05,319
Speaker 4: your neck around and walking around as if you're not

995
00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:07,560
Speaker 4: injured at all, Like while he's wearing the neck brace,

996
00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:09,799
Speaker 4: Tony khn is just looking around and having a normal thing.

997
00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:14,920
Speaker 4: So Pat McAfee of Wrestling, you know, enthusiast employee, was saying,

998
00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:16,600
Speaker 4: you got to sell the neck brace better.

999
00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:18,840
Speaker 2: See this is when and I was just throwing you flowers,

1000
00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:21,600
Speaker 2: Greg for saying that you are part of the illuminati

1001
00:47:21,640 --> 00:47:24,160
Speaker 2: of the NFL media sphere. But now I'm gonna have

1002
00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:25,919
Speaker 2: to give it to you a little bit the other way.

1003
00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:30,040
Speaker 2: You're you're coming off a little uninformed because Tony Khan

1004
00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:33,160
Speaker 2: is with I believe the ae W, which is a upstart.

1005
00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:37,480
Speaker 2: I know that, but it doesn't change the point. And

1006
00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:40,279
Speaker 2: let me throw it to our own network. This was

1007
00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:45,920
Speaker 2: wild Mike Aarrafolo and Steve Wish with Tony Khan, uh

1008
00:47:46,120 --> 00:47:49,359
Speaker 2: talking about all matters of not really Jaguars, just kind

1009
00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:51,080
Speaker 2: of Tony Khan, which is part of my greater point.

1010
00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:51,799
Speaker 1: Let's listen in.

1011
00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:56,520
Speaker 8: And we're up against a really evil juggernaut. WWE is

1012
00:47:56,520 --> 00:48:00,279
Speaker 8: is our competitor, that's who we're facing. AW like the

1013
00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:03,200
Speaker 8: Pepsi of pro wrestling. Ww's like the Harvey Weinstein of

1014
00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:03,840
Speaker 8: pro wrestling.

1015
00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:06,880
Speaker 1: And I'm really proud of what we do down here.

1016
00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:11,640
Speaker 2: I think, all right, toy, we're gonna figure hold on

1017
00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:12,520
Speaker 2: real quick, real quick.

1018
00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:14,880
Speaker 1: What's the prognosis. What are the doctors telling you?

1019
00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:17,879
Speaker 8: Well, uh, you know, to be honest, I think you're

1020
00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:21,439
Speaker 8: gonna have to tune in to AW to find out

1021
00:48:21,640 --> 00:48:23,120
Speaker 8: what they have to say.

1022
00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:28,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was Mike Garriffalo and Steve Weiss are friends

1023
00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:28,920
Speaker 4: with him.

1024
00:48:29,640 --> 00:48:33,600
Speaker 2: Steve Weiss so uncomfortable in that moment anytime Harvey want

1025
00:48:33,719 --> 00:48:35,959
Speaker 2: I don't think Harvey Wantstein's name has ever been uttered

1026
00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:38,239
Speaker 2: on NFL network in any capacity. So you see the

1027
00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:43,960
Speaker 2: on live television, Steve the bells going off there. So yeah,

1028
00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:47,360
Speaker 2: that Pat McAfee is paid by Finzerickman. So I'm just saying, like,

1029
00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:50,520
Speaker 2: obviously he's gonna be critical of Tony Kahan and not

1030
00:48:51,200 --> 00:48:53,840
Speaker 2: try to legitimize his injury, which seems very.

1031
00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:58,960
Speaker 1: Possible that I think it was when I watched Thank

1032
00:48:59,000 --> 00:48:59,359
Speaker 1: you sir.

1033
00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:02,640
Speaker 2: And and one last thing, Mark, I want to throw

1034
00:49:02,719 --> 00:49:08,160
Speaker 2: to you on this. Now, let's say for a second

1035
00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:10,960
Speaker 2: that it is all a work right, and there's no

1036
00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:12,959
Speaker 2: neck injury and it's just a promotional tool.

1037
00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:17,839
Speaker 1: How does this make the Jaguars. Look, I don't I'm

1038
00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:21,520
Speaker 1: not the like, I'm not the I like fun stuff.

1039
00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:25,200
Speaker 2: I love when people in football don't take themselves too seriously.

1040
00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:27,400
Speaker 1: There are on some levels limits.

1041
00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:29,200
Speaker 2: And when he's in the war room with the neck

1042
00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:32,239
Speaker 2: brace and then he's giving interviews and dropping Weinstein on

1043
00:49:32,360 --> 00:49:35,319
Speaker 2: NFL network and like it almost starts to feel like

1044
00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:38,080
Speaker 2: are we I don't know, man?

1045
00:49:38,239 --> 00:49:39,919
Speaker 1: Like, where were your thoughts? Mark?

1046
00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:42,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, because I thought some of the more notable images

1047
00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:45,759
Speaker 3: from the weekend were when he's sitting there and I'm

1048
00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:48,200
Speaker 3: with Greg that there's a lot of neck movement underneath

1049
00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:52,200
Speaker 3: that neck brace, but you know he's turning to better Yeah,

1050
00:49:52,239 --> 00:49:54,000
Speaker 3: he's turning to his right, but to his right is

1051
00:49:54,040 --> 00:49:57,960
Speaker 3: Doug Peterson, former NFL quarterback and head coach, A large

1052
00:49:58,000 --> 00:50:00,840
Speaker 3: man who's you know, serious, is a very serious pivot

1053
00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:01,239
Speaker 3: point in.

1054
00:50:01,200 --> 00:50:02,840
Speaker 1: The organization careers on the industry.

1055
00:50:03,040 --> 00:50:04,959
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you got Trent Balki, who's you know, trying

1056
00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:07,640
Speaker 3: to mend fences after you know what happened to him

1057
00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:10,040
Speaker 3: in a press conference a couple of days ago. And

1058
00:50:10,120 --> 00:50:13,120
Speaker 3: it's like the looks on their faces were my favorite

1059
00:50:13,160 --> 00:50:14,880
Speaker 3: part of the draft on one level, because it's like

1060
00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:16,640
Speaker 3: wait a minute, what's going on with this? Like the

1061
00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:18,960
Speaker 3: son of the owner in a neck bracett and we've

1062
00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:20,960
Speaker 3: had him on the show and he's entertaining, and like,

1063
00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:23,440
Speaker 3: I think it's all for sport on some level, I'm

1064
00:50:23,480 --> 00:50:26,280
Speaker 3: not sure of the accuracy of the injuries injury based

1065
00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:29,399
Speaker 3: on the industry that he's trying to apply to us.

1066
00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:31,799
Speaker 3: I'd tend to write side with Greg that it's not

1067
00:50:32,440 --> 00:50:35,800
Speaker 3: accurate for his vanity project, which is this wrestling federation.

1068
00:50:36,080 --> 00:50:40,719
Speaker 3: It's gold obviously, right, but it almost kind of overshadowed

1069
00:50:40,760 --> 00:50:42,040
Speaker 3: everything the Jaguars were doing.

1070
00:50:42,120 --> 00:50:44,200
Speaker 1: It just that felt tonally.

1071
00:50:44,360 --> 00:50:47,160
Speaker 2: I would think maybe a little off amongst Jaguars fans,

1072
00:50:47,200 --> 00:50:48,399
Speaker 2: at the very least Jags fans.

1073
00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:50,560
Speaker 3: Let us know, I would point out that, you know,

1074
00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:53,840
Speaker 3: we're only a couple of years removed from Mike Rabel's

1075
00:50:54,600 --> 00:50:57,560
Speaker 3: teenage or twenty something year old son during the Corona

1076
00:50:57,640 --> 00:51:01,960
Speaker 3: Draft dressing in a full body one onesie.

1077
00:51:02,440 --> 00:51:02,720
Speaker 1: Uh.

1078
00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:05,440
Speaker 3: That was quite revealing and strange. And that happened on

1079
00:51:05,520 --> 00:51:09,560
Speaker 3: national television too, So mhmm. Was that during COVID, Yes,

1080
00:51:09,600 --> 00:51:14,719
Speaker 3: it was like going in COVID. Yeah, right, Maybe Maybeck's.

1081
00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:16,840
Speaker 1: Dog was taking picks, you know, he drafted Taekwon Thornton.

1082
00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:19,640
Speaker 2: I believe I have one less loser, and then I'm

1083
00:51:19,680 --> 00:51:21,440
Speaker 2: gonna throw to you guys for your last ones, and

1084
00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:23,400
Speaker 2: then we're we got to get to our sandwich props.

1085
00:51:24,280 --> 00:51:26,320
Speaker 2: And this this one's quite serious. We're just having a

1086
00:51:26,360 --> 00:51:29,680
Speaker 2: little bit of fun. But this is serious. I feel

1087
00:51:29,680 --> 00:51:34,319
Speaker 2: weird even saying it, because I've been, you know, a

1088
00:51:34,360 --> 00:51:37,080
Speaker 2: phociferous defender of this individual, which a lot of people

1089
00:51:37,160 --> 00:51:40,280
Speaker 2: have found ironic. But uh so it's gonna be misleading.

1090
00:51:40,280 --> 00:51:43,480
Speaker 2: It first or seemed that way Bill Belichick was a loser,

1091
00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:45,520
Speaker 2: And I don't like I don't like it. I don't

1092
00:51:45,560 --> 00:51:50,000
Speaker 2: like anything about it, Like because I think that you

1093
00:51:50,040 --> 00:51:54,120
Speaker 2: guys did this to him. And I point to everyone.

1094
00:51:54,239 --> 00:51:57,279
Speaker 2: You put him on a television set this weekend with

1095
00:51:57,320 --> 00:52:01,280
Speaker 2: a fake mel Kiper. You have him asking Adam Peters

1096
00:52:01,400 --> 00:52:06,960
Speaker 2: questions about his day two draft plans, like ask Bill

1097
00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:08,200
Speaker 2: Belichick at so what do you think.

1098
00:52:08,120 --> 00:52:09,680
Speaker 1: You're gonna do tomorrow? You want to tell us?

1099
00:52:10,840 --> 00:52:13,840
Speaker 2: You know, the exact type of inane in Sepid Burris

1100
00:52:13,880 --> 00:52:18,719
Speaker 2: that Belichick would dismiss in his heyday. I believe this

1101
00:52:18,760 --> 00:52:23,080
Speaker 2: is crass, This is beneath him. This is tragic. Theater

1102
00:52:23,640 --> 00:52:26,879
Speaker 2: is what it is. Is this what you meant when

1103
00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:30,400
Speaker 2: you said the greatest coach of all time needs to

1104
00:52:30,440 --> 00:52:33,320
Speaker 2: take a year off to better understand the modern game?

1105
00:52:34,239 --> 00:52:37,440
Speaker 1: Does this tap dancing entertain you?

1106
00:52:38,040 --> 00:52:40,880
Speaker 2: Because I see a legendary figure in our game debasing

1107
00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:44,920
Speaker 2: himself at the altar of lazy group. Think stay in

1108
00:52:44,920 --> 00:52:47,560
Speaker 2: the picture, they say, show a different side of yourself,

1109
00:52:47,920 --> 00:52:52,719
Speaker 2: smile or else. Imagine putting Vince Lombardi through these same paces.

1110
00:52:53,200 --> 00:52:56,839
Speaker 2: Imagine asking Bear Bryant to sing for his supper game

1111
00:52:56,920 --> 00:52:57,319
Speaker 2: on you.

1112
00:52:57,920 --> 00:53:00,000
Speaker 1: Shame on all of you.

1113
00:53:02,080 --> 00:53:05,520
Speaker 3: I mean, I love what you said there, but for

1114
00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:12,600
Speaker 3: on Saturday morning, like, I went back and watched about

1115
00:53:12,640 --> 00:53:16,280
Speaker 3: two and a half three hours of of that Belichick performance,

1116
00:53:16,320 --> 00:53:18,080
Speaker 3: and you are right that it was. It was a

1117
00:53:18,080 --> 00:53:19,799
Speaker 3: bit of there were a lot of antics on that set,

1118
00:53:19,840 --> 00:53:22,880
Speaker 3: and at times he seemed a little disembodied from it.

1119
00:53:22,920 --> 00:53:26,800
Speaker 3: But I thought in a in a different way, it

1120
00:53:27,040 --> 00:53:31,080
Speaker 3: helped Bill Belichick because he was awesome in his analysis.

1121
00:53:31,719 --> 00:53:34,839
Speaker 3: And I thought he looked up to Pat McAfee and

1122
00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:38,600
Speaker 3: gave McAfee his correct spot on that show doing it

1123
00:53:38,640 --> 00:53:39,319
Speaker 3: for the first time.

1124
00:53:39,480 --> 00:53:40,960
Speaker 1: So I I see where you're coming from.

1125
00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:43,960
Speaker 3: But like, I thought Belichick kind of shot he he

1126
00:53:44,080 --> 00:53:46,800
Speaker 3: shone bright. I thought he did a wonderful job in

1127
00:53:47,280 --> 00:53:50,360
Speaker 3: a tough setting though, because it's not it was weird

1128
00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:52,719
Speaker 3: to have Belichick sit there and have to like, it's

1129
00:53:52,719 --> 00:53:55,080
Speaker 3: not unlike, you know, a young boy in a neck.

1130
00:53:54,960 --> 00:53:57,160
Speaker 1: Brace with the coach two feet away.

1131
00:53:57,200 --> 00:53:59,000
Speaker 3: It was like he's having to deal with the like

1132
00:53:59,600 --> 00:54:03,839
Speaker 3: these set and best mel Kuiper parador out there on

1133
00:54:03,880 --> 00:54:05,399
Speaker 3: the scene so real.

1134
00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:08,799
Speaker 1: But are you referring to Frank Caliendo is number one? Well,

1135
00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:09,760
Speaker 1: I think Joey.

1136
00:54:10,200 --> 00:54:13,200
Speaker 3: Joey does the best mel Kuiper for my money, Like,

1137
00:54:13,280 --> 00:54:14,680
Speaker 3: I love Joey Mullinaro.

1138
00:54:14,719 --> 00:54:16,800
Speaker 1: I think his last name is but he's Oh he

1139
00:54:16,840 --> 00:54:18,680
Speaker 1: called his first name alone. That was pretty good.

1140
00:54:19,120 --> 00:54:21,040
Speaker 3: Well, he's he does all sorts of stuff, but he's

1141
00:54:21,239 --> 00:54:24,359
Speaker 3: he's a in a way, mel Kuiper's a winner. You're

1142
00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:26,920
Speaker 3: on your own network and people are like, you know,

1143
00:54:27,560 --> 00:54:30,080
Speaker 3: trying to do impressions of you on your own network.

1144
00:54:30,120 --> 00:54:33,080
Speaker 3: I thought that was kind of like mel Kiper fanboy session.

1145
00:54:33,080 --> 00:54:33,399
Speaker 1: Go ahead.

1146
00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:36,480
Speaker 4: You know, we're a show that that appreciates the lighter

1147
00:54:36,520 --> 00:54:39,000
Speaker 4: side of the game. We can get a little wacky.

1148
00:54:39,160 --> 00:54:41,960
Speaker 4: The fact that Belichick could do that. I think it's great.

1149
00:54:42,120 --> 00:54:45,759
Speaker 4: And look, those breakdowns were serious. Not no other broadcast

1150
00:54:45,800 --> 00:54:48,719
Speaker 4: is gonna let Bill Belichick just go for three and

1151
00:54:48,719 --> 00:54:51,960
Speaker 4: a half minutes on every prospect like I've been trained

1152
00:54:52,000 --> 00:54:55,279
Speaker 4: to watch these broadcasts and just TV in general. That Like,

1153
00:54:55,400 --> 00:54:57,440
Speaker 4: once he got through about forty five seconds to a

1154
00:54:57,480 --> 00:54:59,480
Speaker 4: minute of it, I was like, oh wow, this is

1155
00:54:59,640 --> 00:55:00,040
Speaker 4: going on.

1156
00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:00,479
Speaker 1: In a while.

1157
00:55:00,520 --> 00:55:02,360
Speaker 4: It was going on and going on, but it was cool.

1158
00:55:02,400 --> 00:55:04,319
Speaker 4: It's cool to hear a Belichick like he if you

1159
00:55:04,360 --> 00:55:06,919
Speaker 4: were dorky enough to just want to hear him dive

1160
00:55:07,000 --> 00:55:09,000
Speaker 4: deep on all these players, like they gave him the

1161
00:55:09,040 --> 00:55:10,680
Speaker 4: runway to do it. I'm sure they gave him a

1162
00:55:10,680 --> 00:55:13,160
Speaker 4: massive bag of cash. So I don't feel bad for him.

1163
00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:15,880
Speaker 4: He seemed to be having fun and there was some

1164
00:55:15,920 --> 00:55:18,160
Speaker 4: bad you know, let's call it for what it is.

1165
00:55:18,680 --> 00:55:21,160
Speaker 4: Not every editorial decision we've ever made his work, Not

1166
00:55:21,200 --> 00:55:24,520
Speaker 4: every bit we've ever made is great, Like the fake

1167
00:55:24,560 --> 00:55:28,040
Speaker 4: belt Kiper was a disastrous idea, just.

1168
00:55:27,960 --> 00:55:29,880
Speaker 1: Like not good, not funny.

1169
00:55:30,160 --> 00:55:33,040
Speaker 2: There's a song by the Who called behind blue Eyes,

1170
00:55:33,280 --> 00:55:37,440
Speaker 2: and I guess while everybody saw Bill tap dancing, there

1171
00:55:37,640 --> 00:55:39,480
Speaker 2: was I was looking behind those blue eyes and I

1172
00:55:39,520 --> 00:55:41,960
Speaker 2: saw a guy in his own prison that could not

1173
00:55:42,080 --> 00:55:45,640
Speaker 2: believe he wasn't in a war room trying to find

1174
00:55:45,640 --> 00:55:48,520
Speaker 2: a way to win yet another Lombardi Trophy. And I'll

1175
00:55:48,560 --> 00:55:54,879
Speaker 2: stand on that having fun. I'll stand on it all right, guys,

1176
00:55:54,880 --> 00:55:56,640
Speaker 2: what do you got before we move on?

1177
00:55:57,280 --> 00:55:59,680
Speaker 1: I have so much I'm gonna go. I'll stand on it.

1178
00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:03,319
Speaker 4: I'm gonna go speed round winners, speed round, and I'm

1179
00:56:03,320 --> 00:56:05,319
Speaker 4: gonna do a loser speed Round two after Mark I.

1180
00:56:05,239 --> 00:56:09,400
Speaker 1: Don't care singing for his supper. Cardinals hope.

1181
00:56:09,440 --> 00:56:11,640
Speaker 4: At seven picks in the top ninety, they're the first

1182
00:56:11,640 --> 00:56:15,000
Speaker 4: team since the nineteen ninety one Cowboys to have that

1183
00:56:15,080 --> 00:56:19,120
Speaker 4: many picks. They quietly had a really solid I would

1184
00:56:19,160 --> 00:56:21,200
Speaker 4: say B plus a minus considering where the picks were

1185
00:56:21,239 --> 00:56:23,200
Speaker 4: last year in terms of their rookie class four like

1186
00:56:23,320 --> 00:56:25,719
Speaker 4: real contributors. Seven picks, I don't know if they're all

1187
00:56:25,719 --> 00:56:27,040
Speaker 4: going to work or not, Like I'm not going to

1188
00:56:27,120 --> 00:56:31,760
Speaker 4: break down, like if Darius Robinson is Day one great player,

1189
00:56:32,080 --> 00:56:35,120
Speaker 4: but Marvin Harrison Junior adds juice and like just a

1190
00:56:35,120 --> 00:56:36,600
Speaker 4: lot of guys in the top three, so there's a

1191
00:56:36,600 --> 00:56:40,360
Speaker 4: lot of hope. I like the Packers always take guys

1192
00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:43,440
Speaker 4: that like don't have a lot of poppets, meat and potatoes,

1193
00:56:43,480 --> 00:56:45,359
Speaker 4: but they end up playing right away. Jordan Morgan's gonna

1194
00:56:45,360 --> 00:56:48,000
Speaker 4: play right away. Their offensive lineman, their linebacker, Edern Cooper

1195
00:56:48,000 --> 00:56:50,200
Speaker 4: second round probably plays right well. They had another second

1196
00:56:50,280 --> 00:56:52,680
Speaker 4: round pick at safety, Javon Builder, probably going to play

1197
00:56:52,719 --> 00:56:53,160
Speaker 4: right away.

1198
00:56:53,360 --> 00:56:54,520
Speaker 1: Marshall Lloyd. I liked him.

1199
00:56:54,600 --> 00:56:57,880
Speaker 4: He was DJ's top running back. He's a little buried

1200
00:56:57,920 --> 00:56:59,799
Speaker 4: at that position, but he'll play eventually. And then they

1201
00:56:59,800 --> 00:57:01,600
Speaker 4: make the pick of the draft. I don't know how

1202
00:57:01,640 --> 00:57:04,480
Speaker 4: Michael Pratt from two Lane fell this far. He changed

1203
00:57:04,520 --> 00:57:07,960
Speaker 4: the entire program. Maybe the greatest player in the history

1204
00:57:08,000 --> 00:57:11,399
Speaker 4: of the program and a legit quarterback. I will put

1205
00:57:11,440 --> 00:57:15,319
Speaker 4: sandwiches on it that he will outlast at least one

1206
00:57:15,360 --> 00:57:18,880
Speaker 4: of these first round quarterbacks in the NFL. That he's

1207
00:57:18,920 --> 00:57:22,000
Speaker 4: going to have like a ten year plus career. I

1208
00:57:22,040 --> 00:57:24,600
Speaker 4: get why he doesn't have a big arm, like maybe

1209
00:57:24,600 --> 00:57:26,840
Speaker 4: there was medical stuff. I'm shocked he fell to the

1210
00:57:26,880 --> 00:57:29,280
Speaker 4: seventh round, but at least a team that knows quarterbacks

1211
00:57:29,280 --> 00:57:31,080
Speaker 4: will picked him up, so that all around, I think

1212
00:57:31,120 --> 00:57:33,080
Speaker 4: a nice meat and potatoes draft by the Packers.

1213
00:57:33,480 --> 00:57:35,600
Speaker 2: I thought that's that's what they needed right Like, this

1214
00:57:35,720 --> 00:57:38,439
Speaker 2: is a team that's really loading up now and they're

1215
00:57:38,480 --> 00:57:40,200
Speaker 2: they're ready to make a real attack.

1216
00:57:39,920 --> 00:57:40,560
Speaker 1: In the NFC.

1217
00:57:40,600 --> 00:57:43,120
Speaker 2: You don't need to take big swings, just continue to

1218
00:57:43,120 --> 00:57:44,800
Speaker 2: build the roster in a sensible way.

1219
00:57:45,000 --> 00:57:46,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think there running back Like their running back

1220
00:57:47,000 --> 00:57:47,960
Speaker 3: stable looks really interesting.

1221
00:57:48,040 --> 00:57:48,320
Speaker 1: Right now.

1222
00:57:48,880 --> 00:57:52,000
Speaker 3: I'm going to give you a TBD because there are

1223
00:57:52,040 --> 00:57:56,480
Speaker 3: open questions about this team. But you you mentioned the Cardinals,

1224
00:57:56,480 --> 00:57:58,440
Speaker 3: and I'm with you. They were there's a whole different

1225
00:57:58,440 --> 00:58:01,440
Speaker 3: feeling around them. They had eight picks at one point

1226
00:58:01,800 --> 00:58:05,360
Speaker 3: when the Browns had made only two. And the one

1227
00:58:05,400 --> 00:58:08,120
Speaker 3: thing that did pass with the ending of the seventh

1228
00:58:08,200 --> 00:58:11,720
Speaker 3: round is that from a draft pick angle, not a

1229
00:58:11,760 --> 00:58:14,080
Speaker 3: money angle, we get that, but from a draft pick angle,

1230
00:58:14,120 --> 00:58:18,720
Speaker 3: the Browns are free of the Deshaun Watson trade. And

1231
00:58:18,920 --> 00:58:22,760
Speaker 3: I give I think Andrew Berry is a winner outside

1232
00:58:22,800 --> 00:58:26,640
Speaker 3: of the Deshaun Watson situation, that through these seasons where

1233
00:58:26,640 --> 00:58:30,120
Speaker 3: they've been hamstrung without first round picks, that they've had

1234
00:58:30,120 --> 00:58:30,720
Speaker 3: good drafts.

1235
00:58:30,760 --> 00:58:32,440
Speaker 1: And I think that they took.

1236
00:58:32,320 --> 00:58:35,240
Speaker 3: A defensive tackle Michael Hall out of Ohio State, who's

1237
00:58:35,280 --> 00:58:37,960
Speaker 3: got a lot of upside. They took a guard out

1238
00:58:37,960 --> 00:58:40,240
Speaker 3: of Zach Zinter out of Michigan, who looks like a

1239
00:58:40,280 --> 00:58:42,880
Speaker 3: badass to me. But then they had no fourth round pick,

1240
00:58:42,960 --> 00:58:44,400
Speaker 3: and then they're picking a bunch in the sixth and

1241
00:58:44,440 --> 00:58:47,560
Speaker 3: seventh round, and it's like the cost comes home at

1242
00:58:47,560 --> 00:58:49,960
Speaker 3: some point, not only for Deshaun Watson's contract, but the

1243
00:58:50,000 --> 00:58:51,800
Speaker 3: fact that you're one of the You're you're one of

1244
00:58:51,800 --> 00:58:54,920
Speaker 3: the few teams in the league that, for seasons in

1245
00:58:54,960 --> 00:58:57,800
Speaker 3: a row, cannot build through the draft correctly. And I

1246
00:58:57,800 --> 00:59:00,480
Speaker 3: think Barry's done a good job navigating that and agency

1247
00:59:00,520 --> 00:59:03,680
Speaker 3: and through the draft itself. But I still wonder if

1248
00:59:03,720 --> 00:59:07,600
Speaker 3: this is one of the biggest mistakes an organization that

1249
00:59:07,640 --> 00:59:09,320
Speaker 3: has a lot of mistakes.

1250
00:59:08,880 --> 00:59:10,439
Speaker 1: On its resume has ever made.

1251
00:59:10,680 --> 00:59:12,600
Speaker 3: And a lot has to happen this season with that

1252
00:59:12,720 --> 00:59:15,400
Speaker 3: quarterback for people to feel differently about them. There's some

1253
00:59:15,440 --> 00:59:17,840
Speaker 3: weird stuff going on with with with the whole experience,

1254
00:59:18,080 --> 00:59:20,160
Speaker 3: But from a draft angle, it was it was it

1255
00:59:20,320 --> 00:59:22,920
Speaker 3: was it's not fun to follow a team that has

1256
00:59:22,960 --> 00:59:25,320
Speaker 3: nothing going on in the draft, and the reason for

1257
00:59:25,360 --> 00:59:28,440
Speaker 3: it isn't because of something that you can really get behind.

1258
00:59:28,640 --> 00:59:32,320
Speaker 4: Well, especially on a weekend where you're watching like the Steelers,

1259
00:59:33,640 --> 00:59:35,720
Speaker 4: I think they've added a lot of good draft picks

1260
00:59:35,720 --> 00:59:37,400
Speaker 4: over the like they sneak you out a great draft

1261
00:59:37,480 --> 00:59:40,240
Speaker 4: last year. They added two offensive linemen early too, that

1262
00:59:40,320 --> 00:59:42,920
Speaker 4: I happen to like higher than others. They take Peyton Wilson,

1263
00:59:42,920 --> 00:59:45,320
Speaker 4: this linebacker in Roman Wilson like another good mid round,

1264
00:59:45,400 --> 00:59:46,920
Speaker 4: and it's like you're watching the other guys in your

1265
00:59:46,960 --> 00:59:50,720
Speaker 4: division add quality players. Whether the Browns have been sitting

1266
00:59:50,720 --> 00:59:51,800
Speaker 4: it out for a couple of years.

1267
00:59:51,840 --> 00:59:54,400
Speaker 2: Correctly, it's over. Though, here's the good news. The at

1268
00:59:54,480 --> 00:59:58,120
Speaker 2: least from this portion in the NFL calendar, it's over.

1269
00:59:58,560 --> 01:00:03,120
Speaker 2: The draft compensation is all rolled through with the Texans

1270
01:00:03,640 --> 01:00:07,520
Speaker 2: and Browns. Now you just have the quite messy issue

1271
01:00:07,560 --> 01:00:10,960
Speaker 2: of Deshaun Watson himself, who is entering year three now.

1272
01:00:11,000 --> 01:00:13,520
Speaker 2: And the idea was we could We're gonna able to

1273
01:00:13,560 --> 01:00:17,080
Speaker 2: stomach these couple of drafts of just being wiped out

1274
01:00:17,080 --> 01:00:18,800
Speaker 2: because we got this guy that was going to be

1275
01:00:19,160 --> 01:00:22,360
Speaker 2: warts and all a franchise star at quarterback, and he

1276
01:00:22,400 --> 01:00:25,480
Speaker 2: hasn't been. He's been an injury riddled mess, and he's

1277
01:00:25,480 --> 01:00:28,120
Speaker 2: been inconsistent when he's been on the field. So yeah,

1278
01:00:28,120 --> 01:00:31,600
Speaker 2: I think where things stand right now, if things don't change,

1279
01:00:31,720 --> 01:00:33,800
Speaker 2: I think it becomes the worst trade of all time,

1280
01:00:34,720 --> 01:00:36,880
Speaker 2: and he's off to a huge head start.

1281
01:00:36,960 --> 01:00:38,520
Speaker 1: The Browns are in that race.

1282
01:00:40,360 --> 01:00:44,320
Speaker 4: All right, One more speed round here, yes, winner Drake

1283
01:00:44,400 --> 01:00:47,800
Speaker 4: may next five picks after him were all offense. They

1284
01:00:47,840 --> 01:00:49,920
Speaker 4: didn't mess around, including two receivers.

1285
01:00:50,000 --> 01:00:51,200
Speaker 1: Jase. I love when teams do that.

1286
01:00:51,520 --> 01:00:54,680
Speaker 2: One of my favorite draft tropes, team that needs needs

1287
01:00:55,440 --> 01:00:57,919
Speaker 2: doesn't actually do the best player available. They just say,

1288
01:00:58,080 --> 01:01:00,360
Speaker 2: we are only drafting one side of the ball. It's

1289
01:01:00,400 --> 01:01:03,000
Speaker 2: a little dunderheaded, but also I love it. It makes

1290
01:01:03,000 --> 01:01:03,480
Speaker 2: sense as well.

1291
01:01:03,560 --> 01:01:05,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, Drod Mayo was like, we feel pretty good about

1292
01:01:05,560 --> 01:01:07,919
Speaker 4: our defense. So they added receivers and they added offensive line.

1293
01:01:08,320 --> 01:01:10,760
Speaker 4: The Rams are just like a tougher team. They add

1294
01:01:10,840 --> 01:01:13,360
Speaker 4: your guy Blake Korum in terms of in the running game,

1295
01:01:13,400 --> 01:01:16,480
Speaker 4: and then they pair their first round pick with another

1296
01:01:16,520 --> 01:01:19,400
Speaker 4: Florida State kind of run stopper. So it's just like

1297
01:01:19,400 --> 01:01:21,160
Speaker 4: better on the run on both sides of the ball.

1298
01:01:21,240 --> 01:01:23,320
Speaker 4: Brian Flora's sneaky winner. They've really added a lot on

1299
01:01:23,360 --> 01:01:26,120
Speaker 4: their defense all offseason, Like he was kind of playing

1300
01:01:26,160 --> 01:01:28,040
Speaker 4: without really a full deck last year.

1301
01:01:28,440 --> 01:01:29,840
Speaker 1: Aidan O'Connell winner.

1302
01:01:30,080 --> 01:01:32,680
Speaker 4: Somehow they didn't draft a quarterback, and I do not

1303
01:01:32,760 --> 01:01:36,280
Speaker 4: believe in any world where Gardner Minshew starts seventeen games,

1304
01:01:36,320 --> 01:01:38,240
Speaker 4: So Aidan O'Connell will be back in our lives, wouldn't

1305
01:01:38,240 --> 01:01:42,560
Speaker 4: surprise Maybe plays quite about loser Saints fans who have

1306
01:01:42,600 --> 01:01:45,240
Speaker 4: to be worried about Marsha and Lattimore getting traded again

1307
01:01:45,480 --> 01:01:47,800
Speaker 4: because they drafted a cornerback high although you know it's

1308
01:01:47,840 --> 01:01:50,360
Speaker 4: a good pick, Coolian McKinstry. And then I thought the bear,

1309
01:01:50,600 --> 01:01:53,440
Speaker 4: you know bear, I mean the Bills taking Keyon Coleman

1310
01:01:53,440 --> 01:01:55,200
Speaker 4: with the first pick of the second round. They just

1311
01:01:55,240 --> 01:01:57,160
Speaker 4: have a bunch of guys who all win over the

1312
01:01:57,200 --> 01:01:59,360
Speaker 4: middle of the field, Like he looks like a slot receiver,

1313
01:01:59,440 --> 01:02:02,320
Speaker 4: and can is that, and Shakier's that, and Samuel's that,

1314
01:02:02,480 --> 01:02:06,680
Speaker 4: and that would be a good spot for obj Darren

1315
01:02:06,680 --> 01:02:09,760
Speaker 4: Waller's chances of returning. That's a loser. They drafted a

1316
01:02:09,800 --> 01:02:12,640
Speaker 4: tight end. It really seems like he is going to retire.

1317
01:02:12,680 --> 01:02:15,200
Speaker 4: And then people who drafted Devin h Chan in way

1318
01:02:15,240 --> 01:02:18,800
Speaker 4: too early fantasy leagues loser because they drafted yet another

1319
01:02:18,880 --> 01:02:23,160
Speaker 4: speed demon at running back, Jalen Wright in Miami.

1320
01:02:23,280 --> 01:02:27,360
Speaker 1: Drafting fantasy teams in like late April. What's this? They're crazy?

1321
01:02:27,440 --> 01:02:29,520
Speaker 1: These best ball leagues. I don't know. People are talking

1322
01:02:29,560 --> 01:02:31,400
Speaker 1: about like average draft positions. I don't know.

1323
01:02:31,400 --> 01:02:33,640
Speaker 4: They just can't stop doing it. I don't know what

1324
01:02:33,640 --> 01:02:34,680
Speaker 4: it is best ball leagues.

1325
01:02:34,720 --> 01:02:35,080
Speaker 1: I believe.

1326
01:02:35,480 --> 01:02:38,360
Speaker 2: I hope everything's okay with Darren Waller because not only

1327
01:02:39,720 --> 01:02:42,360
Speaker 2: has he, you know, having this moment where it looks

1328
01:02:42,360 --> 01:02:44,400
Speaker 2: like he's ending his NFL career, I saw a report

1329
01:02:44,400 --> 01:02:46,400
Speaker 2: out there that he like suddenly ended his marriage or

1330
01:02:46,440 --> 01:02:48,720
Speaker 2: it seems to be a lot going on with Darren Waller,

1331
01:02:48,720 --> 01:02:50,960
Speaker 2: guy who's had issues in his past in terms of

1332
01:02:51,000 --> 01:02:53,680
Speaker 2: his personal life. So it looks like the Giants are

1333
01:02:53,680 --> 01:02:55,840
Speaker 2: ready to move on and that was not a good

1334
01:02:55,960 --> 01:02:58,840
Speaker 2: trade either. All right, let's take one more break. We

1335
01:02:58,960 --> 01:03:02,160
Speaker 2: come back and we're gonna do some Go get my

1336
01:03:02,240 --> 01:03:09,560
Speaker 2: lunch recaps. Stay right there. All right, we are back.

1337
01:03:09,800 --> 01:03:12,000
Speaker 2: Let's close this thing up. Let's let's empty out. We

1338
01:03:12,000 --> 01:03:14,880
Speaker 2: had a the mods and ends. Just from the draft.

1339
01:03:14,880 --> 01:03:19,560
Speaker 2: There was a a fan, a super fan. I feel

1340
01:03:19,560 --> 01:03:21,800
Speaker 2: like there's a good chance he listens to the show.

1341
01:03:22,200 --> 01:03:25,720
Speaker 2: Mark if we could get his name, because our international

1342
01:03:25,760 --> 01:03:30,640
Speaker 2: listenership is strong. He got to announce a Panthers pick

1343
01:03:31,920 --> 01:03:34,640
Speaker 2: in the draft from Detroit. Let's let's listen to how

1344
01:03:34,640 --> 01:03:35,200
Speaker 2: we ended that.

1345
01:03:36,720 --> 01:03:40,520
Speaker 1: God and Talk Detroit from Germany were so one not at.

1346
01:03:40,440 --> 01:03:43,919
Speaker 9: First pick in a twenty twenty four NFL draft, see

1347
01:03:43,920 --> 01:03:48,480
Speaker 9: Carolina Panther select Chatavian sand Us tight in Texas.

1348
01:03:48,920 --> 01:03:52,960
Speaker 1: Keep poning. I mean, I just love that guy, love

1349
01:03:52,960 --> 01:03:54,880
Speaker 1: everything about him. Yeah, love him too.

1350
01:03:55,200 --> 01:03:59,000
Speaker 2: And I love that as a nice supplemental key pounding

1351
01:03:59,400 --> 01:04:04,160
Speaker 2: drop for the show going forward. I also have Brandon Graham.

1352
01:04:04,240 --> 01:04:07,280
Speaker 2: I love I love teams hating each other. I love

1353
01:04:07,520 --> 01:04:11,800
Speaker 2: like division rivals, just like talking ish because they don't

1354
01:04:12,120 --> 01:04:14,520
Speaker 2: they have an opportunity to and they and they don't

1355
01:04:14,520 --> 01:04:17,480
Speaker 2: care if it's going to be offensive. Here's Brandon Graham

1356
01:04:17,760 --> 01:04:19,760
Speaker 2: announcing a pick in Detroit.

1357
01:04:20,240 --> 01:04:26,280
Speaker 10: Hey, hey, hey gee, oh hey, yes he goes And

1358
01:04:26,400 --> 01:04:31,240
Speaker 10: y'all already know all day Dallas sucks all day.

1359
01:04:32,040 --> 01:04:40,120
Speaker 1: Let's go, let's go. I like it. I always enjoy it.

1360
01:04:40,320 --> 01:04:42,320
Speaker 1: And Greg, you have one as well. I do.

1361
01:04:42,480 --> 01:04:42,760
Speaker 5: C J.

1362
01:04:42,880 --> 01:04:48,520
Speaker 4: Stroud uh is a revelation, incredible analysis on a like

1363
01:04:48,680 --> 01:04:52,480
Speaker 4: live first round reaction show for Bleacher Report was hosted

1364
01:04:52,520 --> 01:04:54,919
Speaker 4: by Adam Lefko, who I got a chance to meet once.

1365
01:04:54,960 --> 01:04:57,320
Speaker 4: Like great guy like CJ. Stroud seems like an incredible

1366
01:04:57,320 --> 01:05:00,280
Speaker 4: football analyst. He was breaking down like the Ricky Pierson pick,

1367
01:05:00,320 --> 01:05:02,440
Speaker 4: wishing why he had it and just explain all this stuff.

1368
01:05:02,520 --> 01:05:05,880
Speaker 4: But I especially liked when he was not afraid to

1369
01:05:06,520 --> 01:05:11,040
Speaker 4: confront another analyst on the desk there, which was Micah Parsons,

1370
01:05:11,080 --> 01:05:12,560
Speaker 4: talking about the best division in the league.

1371
01:05:13,440 --> 01:05:16,760
Speaker 9: Everyone's a playoff team, ANFC North was the best division

1372
01:05:16,800 --> 01:05:20,520
Speaker 9: in football. Washington was argued that Washington wasn't nothing, But

1373
01:05:20,560 --> 01:05:23,600
Speaker 9: what are you talking about? That meant the Giants Giants either,

1374
01:05:23,640 --> 01:05:25,400
Speaker 9: what are you talking about They lost to the Eagles.

1375
01:05:25,480 --> 01:05:26,120
Speaker 1: That's two years ago.

1376
01:05:26,280 --> 01:05:28,320
Speaker 9: Yeah, but I'm saying going into it, Sam, you don't

1377
01:05:28,320 --> 01:05:30,080
Speaker 9: know what you're talking about. Going into last year, no

1378
01:05:30,160 --> 01:05:33,800
Speaker 9: one up planning except for Michael Parsons thought the NFC

1379
01:05:33,880 --> 01:05:36,920
Speaker 9: East was better than the ANFC North. You can't argue that.

1380
01:05:37,120 --> 01:05:41,400
Speaker 1: I can bro oh, I love it.

1381
01:05:41,720 --> 01:05:43,520
Speaker 4: And that was just like a snippet that went on

1382
01:05:43,600 --> 01:05:46,200
Speaker 4: for about a minute forty five and he just filayed him.

1383
01:05:46,200 --> 01:05:48,600
Speaker 4: And in Parsons defense, he was talking about like going

1384
01:05:48,640 --> 01:05:51,760
Speaker 4: into last season, but he was he was off base

1385
01:05:51,800 --> 01:05:53,560
Speaker 4: and that was on point.

1386
01:05:53,600 --> 01:05:54,240
Speaker 1: With all this stuff.

1387
01:05:54,280 --> 01:05:56,960
Speaker 4: You can tell how much that that guy knows ball

1388
01:05:57,000 --> 01:05:57,640
Speaker 4: and loves ball.

1389
01:05:57,760 --> 01:05:59,560
Speaker 3: Well, also thing also what I love about him is

1390
01:05:59,560 --> 01:06:02,600
Speaker 3: he Michael Parsons is an incredible player, but there was

1391
01:06:02,720 --> 01:06:07,120
Speaker 3: like absolutely zero willingness to play ball with his comments.

1392
01:06:07,160 --> 01:06:10,000
Speaker 3: And it's like Stroud reminds me of like my son

1393
01:06:10,040 --> 01:06:12,840
Speaker 3: Calton is like a huge soccer fan and a soccer player.

1394
01:06:12,840 --> 01:06:14,800
Speaker 3: And if you if you bring the wrong take or

1395
01:06:14,840 --> 01:06:17,560
Speaker 3: mention the wrong players, just like no dismissed. You're wrong,

1396
01:06:17,600 --> 01:06:19,640
Speaker 3: You're completely wrong, and it's just like I love it.

1397
01:06:19,680 --> 01:06:22,000
Speaker 3: So I totally think he was on point and like

1398
01:06:22,240 --> 01:06:24,480
Speaker 3: big loser the C two tests that a year ago,

1399
01:06:24,480 --> 01:06:27,040
Speaker 3: we're telling us that, you know, CJ. Stroud didn't have

1400
01:06:27,080 --> 01:06:29,560
Speaker 3: the acumen or the wherewith all to lead an NFL team.

1401
01:06:29,600 --> 01:06:32,960
Speaker 1: It's like seculator test. Well you it should be.

1402
01:06:33,000 --> 01:06:35,280
Speaker 2: Note I haven't heard much at all about that in

1403
01:06:35,320 --> 01:06:36,840
Speaker 2: this draft process so.

1404
01:06:36,880 --> 01:06:38,560
Speaker 4: Much a change to the C two test. It was

1405
01:06:38,600 --> 01:06:41,360
Speaker 4: the S two test. I believe, well S two I

1406
01:06:41,360 --> 01:06:42,640
Speaker 4: can't even remember, but you're right.

1407
01:06:42,760 --> 01:06:45,000
Speaker 1: I would come up one time this year. It's dead.

1408
01:06:45,120 --> 01:06:46,800
Speaker 1: It's dead. They took a dirt.

1409
01:06:46,640 --> 01:06:51,520
Speaker 2: Nap while we're on sun Corner here before we started recording.

1410
01:06:51,560 --> 01:06:56,800
Speaker 2: Today we have the Royals, the Double A Royals that

1411
01:06:56,840 --> 01:06:59,800
Speaker 2: my son plays on. I'm one of the coaches on

1412
01:06:59,840 --> 01:07:03,200
Speaker 2: the team and we were a little shorthanded getting warmed up,

1413
01:07:03,240 --> 01:07:05,680
Speaker 2: so I jogged over there. It's only a block away

1414
01:07:05,720 --> 01:07:08,920
Speaker 2: from the house, and thank you guys for bearing with

1415
01:07:08,960 --> 01:07:12,919
Speaker 2: me during that. So I got the team ready for

1416
01:07:13,000 --> 01:07:16,080
Speaker 2: the game, and then my son Harrison was starting on

1417
01:07:16,080 --> 01:07:18,200
Speaker 2: the mound, so I was like, all right, I gotta watch.

1418
01:07:18,280 --> 01:07:21,760
Speaker 2: I gotta watch the first half inning. And I don't know,

1419
01:07:21,840 --> 01:07:23,960
Speaker 2: I don't know where he gets it. I can't imagine

1420
01:07:24,120 --> 01:07:28,040
Speaker 2: where he gets like this maniacal competitive streak in him.

1421
01:07:28,080 --> 01:07:31,680
Speaker 2: But he struck out the side for starters, So good

1422
01:07:31,760 --> 01:07:34,520
Speaker 2: job by you, Harry in a big spot. But also

1423
01:07:34,840 --> 01:07:37,720
Speaker 2: the other team that we were playing, the Expos, who

1424
01:07:37,800 --> 01:07:40,400
Speaker 2: somehow the Expos are in this league, They're.

1425
01:07:40,200 --> 01:07:43,320
Speaker 1: Not the Nationals. The team was chanting.

1426
01:07:43,320 --> 01:07:45,560
Speaker 2: They were doing a chant from the imposing dugout that

1427
01:07:45,640 --> 01:07:47,960
Speaker 2: went Pitcher, Pitcher, look at me, I'm a monkey in

1428
01:07:48,000 --> 01:07:51,360
Speaker 2: a tree. And I kept on seeing Harrison kind of

1429
01:07:51,400 --> 01:07:53,680
Speaker 2: his eyes darting over. He didn't like that they were

1430
01:07:53,680 --> 01:07:57,720
Speaker 2: making doing that chant. And after he struck out the

1431
01:07:57,720 --> 01:08:00,640
Speaker 2: third batter, this is a memory that will stay with

1432
01:08:00,680 --> 01:08:04,040
Speaker 2: me forever. He walks off the mound, just staring at

1433
01:08:04,040 --> 01:08:07,360
Speaker 2: the dugout as the opposing team to the point where

1434
01:08:07,720 --> 01:08:12,120
Speaker 2: he starts just backpedaling back towards our dugout, staring at

1435
01:08:12,120 --> 01:08:15,120
Speaker 2: them at the striking out the side, no smile, dead

1436
01:08:15,160 --> 01:08:19,360
Speaker 2: eyed like like Max Scherzer like. It was an incredible

1437
01:08:19,400 --> 01:08:24,320
Speaker 2: moment that showed that he might be as nuts as

1438
01:08:24,360 --> 01:08:26,599
Speaker 2: his dad, and I love him for it. Shout out

1439
01:08:26,680 --> 01:08:31,160
Speaker 2: to Harry, my co coach, Jeff Grundel, and the rest

1440
01:08:31,160 --> 01:08:33,559
Speaker 2: of the staff. We are We've been fighting through it

1441
01:08:33,600 --> 01:08:35,360
Speaker 2: this year, but that was a nice moment. You shut

1442
01:08:35,360 --> 01:08:36,800
Speaker 2: that other team up. That's what I like.

1443
01:08:36,960 --> 01:08:39,040
Speaker 3: Maybe it's like a young Albert Bell in the making.

1444
01:08:39,080 --> 01:08:40,400
Speaker 3: That would be wonderful.

1445
01:08:40,840 --> 01:08:43,960
Speaker 1: I'm a big Bell. I'm a big celebrations guy. You know.

1446
01:08:44,320 --> 01:08:47,320
Speaker 4: I'm always loving the celebrations and it is fun. And

1447
01:08:47,439 --> 01:08:50,400
Speaker 4: I feel like Walker played his basketball game today. And

1448
01:08:50,560 --> 01:08:53,120
Speaker 4: there is a fine line of like when do you

1449
01:08:53,160 --> 01:08:55,920
Speaker 4: get too old to be Because if they hit like

1450
01:08:55,960 --> 01:08:58,639
Speaker 4: a couple of shots early, like some of the players

1451
01:08:58,680 --> 01:09:02,679
Speaker 4: you know in the eight ten ages, like oh, they're

1452
01:09:02,680 --> 01:09:04,360
Speaker 4: going to show the other team up. They're gonna do

1453
01:09:04,360 --> 01:09:06,280
Speaker 4: a little they're gonna do some celebration. They're gonna do

1454
01:09:06,280 --> 01:09:09,120
Speaker 4: some dancing. At some point that the other team is going.

1455
01:09:09,240 --> 01:09:12,360
Speaker 4: You know that other team might come come charge Jack,

1456
01:09:12,400 --> 01:09:14,799
Speaker 4: who knows at some point like you have to maybe

1457
01:09:14,880 --> 01:09:16,960
Speaker 4: die right back. But it's fun to watch little kids

1458
01:09:17,000 --> 01:09:17,320
Speaker 4: do that.

1459
01:09:17,400 --> 01:09:19,720
Speaker 2: I would not I would not pick against Jack, even

1460
01:09:19,720 --> 01:09:22,000
Speaker 2: if nine kids ran at him. If if he is

1461
01:09:22,040 --> 01:09:24,840
Speaker 2: fired up, he's got a he's got a wonderful temper

1462
01:09:24,880 --> 01:09:27,280
Speaker 2: on him. It's the one thing a difference between when

1463
01:09:27,280 --> 01:09:31,720
Speaker 2: we were eight, nine, ten and kids now they all

1464
01:09:31,760 --> 01:09:34,240
Speaker 2: know how to dance, right because they all like play

1465
01:09:34,280 --> 01:09:36,559
Speaker 2: Fortnite and stuff, and they have like they're all like

1466
01:09:36,600 --> 01:09:37,280
Speaker 2: Fred Astaire.

1467
01:09:37,320 --> 01:09:38,280
Speaker 1: Now, it's absurd.

1468
01:09:38,400 --> 01:09:41,720
Speaker 2: So I can imagine, especially in basketball, if you hit

1469
01:09:41,720 --> 01:09:44,760
Speaker 2: it an eighteen footer and you're ten, you're going to

1470
01:09:44,800 --> 01:09:51,440
Speaker 2: be doing something you completely elaborate. All right, doll, we

1471
01:09:51,479 --> 01:09:56,160
Speaker 2: turn our attention to the annual game of Chance Skill.

1472
01:09:57,280 --> 01:09:58,160
Speaker 1: Go get my lunch.

1473
01:09:59,720 --> 01:10:05,400
Speaker 2: Nothing, pitcher, Pitcher, Look at me, I'm a monkey in

1474
01:10:05,479 --> 01:10:05,960
Speaker 2: a tree.

1475
01:10:06,600 --> 01:10:09,040
Speaker 1: Unbelievable. All right.

1476
01:10:09,080 --> 01:10:14,960
Speaker 2: This year we had some success, but as usual, not

1477
01:10:15,000 --> 01:10:21,160
Speaker 2: a not a ton overall. Let's start with Mark Sessler. Mark,

1478
01:10:21,240 --> 01:10:25,160
Speaker 2: you did not hit on a prop this year. Let's

1479
01:10:25,200 --> 01:10:29,519
Speaker 2: go through them. Eagles select Jeremiah Trotter Junior. And this

1480
01:10:29,640 --> 01:10:33,120
Speaker 2: is I feel like Mark, we tried to warn you

1481
01:10:33,200 --> 01:10:35,839
Speaker 2: on this, like they don't have to make it two parts.

1482
01:10:36,240 --> 01:10:39,599
Speaker 2: We can't give you credit for having half. This is

1483
01:10:39,720 --> 01:10:42,880
Speaker 2: not horseshoes, this is not hand grenades. Because you also

1484
01:10:42,920 --> 01:10:46,320
Speaker 2: added and the chargers select Blake Korum, who did go

1485
01:10:46,400 --> 01:10:49,440
Speaker 2: to Sofi Stadium but to the Rams.

1486
01:10:49,080 --> 01:10:49,840
Speaker 1: Well I did.

1487
01:10:49,960 --> 01:10:52,559
Speaker 3: I did, Like you know, I went in knowing this

1488
01:10:52,600 --> 01:10:55,400
Speaker 3: is hyper specific and that I would pay the price.

1489
01:10:55,560 --> 01:10:58,120
Speaker 3: I still felt I'm not saying it from a sandwich angle,

1490
01:10:58,160 --> 01:11:01,519
Speaker 3: but when Trotter went to the Eagle, I felt good

1491
01:11:01,560 --> 01:11:04,720
Speaker 3: about that because it was it came from instinct and

1492
01:11:04,800 --> 01:11:07,600
Speaker 3: also a little bit of, you know, listening to some whispers.

1493
01:11:07,600 --> 01:11:11,639
Speaker 1: So there you go. You deserve to be happy with yourself.

1494
01:11:11,720 --> 01:11:12,200
Speaker 1: That's good.

1495
01:11:12,240 --> 01:11:14,719
Speaker 2: You've done it two years in a row, Porter, last

1496
01:11:14,800 --> 01:11:17,800
Speaker 2: year Trotter. It's a thing, especially in like day three

1497
01:11:17,880 --> 01:11:21,439
Speaker 2: when teams are if they're kind of stuck between son

1498
01:11:21,520 --> 01:11:24,880
Speaker 2: of Franchise Legend and Joe Blow, they're probably gonna take

1499
01:11:24,880 --> 01:11:28,080
Speaker 2: the Legends, just smart thinking you just went too hard,

1500
01:11:28,120 --> 01:11:30,320
Speaker 2: you went too specific, But you know, maybe next year.

1501
01:11:30,360 --> 01:11:33,040
Speaker 4: You didn't know Sean McVay was gonna sweep in and

1502
01:11:33,200 --> 01:11:37,160
Speaker 4: annoyed Jim Harbor and annoy Kirien Williams's fantasy owners.

1503
01:11:37,240 --> 01:11:40,080
Speaker 2: Next year, the Cowboys select a quarterback within the first

1504
01:11:40,080 --> 01:11:40,919
Speaker 2: two rounds.

1505
01:11:41,240 --> 01:11:43,240
Speaker 1: This was saucy. We took you on it.

1506
01:11:43,760 --> 01:11:46,599
Speaker 2: They ended up taking what I believe a tackle and

1507
01:11:47,200 --> 01:11:48,320
Speaker 2: a defensive lineman.

1508
01:11:48,439 --> 01:11:52,000
Speaker 1: Was it. Yeah? Did they take a quarterback period? I

1509
01:11:52,000 --> 01:11:53,439
Speaker 1: don't think so. I don't believe so.

1510
01:11:53,560 --> 01:11:55,639
Speaker 4: I was kind of hoping they would be a spot

1511
01:11:55,960 --> 01:11:58,280
Speaker 4: for my guy Pratt in the later rounds.

1512
01:11:58,600 --> 01:12:00,839
Speaker 1: It didn't happen. You know, they got Trail their quarterback

1513
01:12:00,880 --> 01:12:02,639
Speaker 1: of the future. Oh my goodness. Let's see.

1514
01:12:02,640 --> 01:12:05,040
Speaker 2: They took Geiton the tackle out of Oklahoma, kneel in

1515
01:12:05,120 --> 01:12:08,880
Speaker 2: the edge, Cooper bbe guard.

1516
01:12:09,760 --> 01:12:13,120
Speaker 1: They did not take a quarterback. They didn't take a quarterback.

1517
01:12:13,560 --> 01:12:19,320
Speaker 1: All right, up next White a third one.

1518
01:12:19,320 --> 01:12:19,479
Speaker 10: There.

1519
01:12:19,479 --> 01:12:22,880
Speaker 2: I believe a major non sports related news story takes

1520
01:12:23,120 --> 01:12:27,680
Speaker 2: quote wholesale precedence close quote over the draft. There is

1521
01:12:27,720 --> 01:12:31,960
Speaker 2: a lot of There are a lot of important issues

1522
01:12:32,000 --> 01:12:35,240
Speaker 2: going on in the world right now, a lot of

1523
01:12:35,280 --> 01:12:42,960
Speaker 2: troubling stories out there. I believe the Republican presidential nominee

1524
01:12:43,160 --> 01:12:46,080
Speaker 2: is currently on trial, for instance, there's just stuff going on.

1525
01:12:46,800 --> 01:12:49,479
Speaker 2: But no, nothing seemed to pop up over the last

1526
01:12:49,479 --> 01:12:50,000
Speaker 2: three days.

1527
01:12:50,200 --> 01:12:53,920
Speaker 3: No, I think I might retire that personal flavor of

1528
01:12:54,200 --> 01:12:57,960
Speaker 3: like major news story overtakes what we're attempting to do

1529
01:12:58,000 --> 01:13:00,840
Speaker 3: with our work, because it doesn't seem to ever occur.

1530
01:13:01,240 --> 01:13:03,960
Speaker 4: It's gonna have one of these one of these years,

1531
01:13:04,000 --> 01:13:05,920
Speaker 4: and then you'll be you'll be sad you didn't.

1532
01:13:07,240 --> 01:13:11,519
Speaker 1: All right, Greg, So you went over three Greg four

1533
01:13:11,760 --> 01:13:14,439
Speaker 1: nine overall, according to go get my Lunch dot org. Yeah,

1534
01:13:14,439 --> 01:13:16,280
Speaker 1: with all the takes and non takes.

1535
01:13:16,439 --> 01:13:20,880
Speaker 2: Uh, you'd say Patriots select Drake May was this did

1536
01:13:20,920 --> 01:13:21,759
Speaker 2: you do this on Monday?

1537
01:13:21,800 --> 01:13:25,360
Speaker 1: Or is this an older one? We did it on Monday?

1538
01:13:25,439 --> 01:13:27,679
Speaker 2: Right, yeah, No, but I mean this one I don't

1539
01:13:27,680 --> 01:13:29,519
Speaker 2: remember this. Oh yeah, that's you said you're gonna go

1540
01:13:29,520 --> 01:13:32,439
Speaker 2: straightforward with it. That was very chalky. In fact, only

1541
01:13:32,479 --> 01:13:34,400
Speaker 2: Mark took you on it. I did not take you.

1542
01:13:34,479 --> 01:13:35,759
Speaker 2: So you make one saying.

1543
01:13:36,000 --> 01:13:39,320
Speaker 4: Throughout the process he was plus money, like less than

1544
01:13:39,360 --> 01:13:42,640
Speaker 4: fifty to fifty to go. Third, people just thought, I

1545
01:13:42,640 --> 01:13:45,720
Speaker 4: don't know what they thought like that exactly to the Patriots,

1546
01:13:45,880 --> 01:13:47,920
Speaker 4: even as late as Monday. It's funny that that by

1547
01:13:47,960 --> 01:13:50,439
Speaker 4: the time we got to Wednesday. Then it was totally expected.

1548
01:13:50,479 --> 01:13:51,960
Speaker 3: Why did I take you on that one in my

1549
01:13:52,000 --> 01:13:55,080
Speaker 3: own mock draft, which I, you know, in theory, believed

1550
01:13:55,120 --> 01:13:57,040
Speaker 3: and had him going to the Patriots.

1551
01:13:57,040 --> 01:13:59,559
Speaker 1: Absurd. Yeah, that was a tough one. That's a bad beat.

1552
01:14:00,520 --> 01:14:03,920
Speaker 2: Also a bad beat the owner of the Cowboys letting

1553
01:14:04,000 --> 01:14:06,040
Speaker 2: every team in the league know, you better go get

1554
01:14:06,120 --> 01:14:08,599
Speaker 2: Jonathan Brooks because we're in love with him and we're

1555
01:14:08,640 --> 01:14:10,360
Speaker 2: going to take him in the second round to the draft.

1556
01:14:11,520 --> 01:14:14,759
Speaker 2: So the Cowboys select Jonathan Brooks with pick number fifty six.

1557
01:14:15,400 --> 01:14:18,960
Speaker 2: He went about ten picks before when the Panthers traded up.

1558
01:14:19,960 --> 01:14:24,120
Speaker 2: Your thinking was very sound to Greg. In fact, Jera's

1559
01:14:24,120 --> 01:14:30,000
Speaker 2: speech monologue, while misguided, makes you look good because it

1560
01:14:30,040 --> 01:14:33,040
Speaker 2: tells you that that's exactly what they're thinking. However, it

1561
01:14:33,160 --> 01:14:35,679
Speaker 2: costs you sangwiches and a big spot two sandwiches down.

1562
01:14:36,520 --> 01:14:37,439
Speaker 1: I think only.

1563
01:14:37,240 --> 01:14:41,320
Speaker 4: Two running backs got taken in the first three rounds,

1564
01:14:41,360 --> 01:14:45,080
Speaker 4: like that was Brooks mid two, Trey Benson went early three,

1565
01:14:45,200 --> 01:14:47,400
Speaker 4: and that was it to the Cardinals.

1566
01:14:47,600 --> 01:14:50,120
Speaker 2: And this one, Mark, We're gonna have to kind of

1567
01:14:50,160 --> 01:14:52,679
Speaker 2: just dissect this one a little bit because there's elements

1568
01:14:52,680 --> 01:14:55,200
Speaker 2: of it that are straightforward and we're all having fun.

1569
01:14:55,200 --> 01:14:55,840
Speaker 1: It's just a game.

1570
01:14:55,880 --> 01:15:01,320
Speaker 2: And then there's some more troubling aspects to this jers

1571
01:15:01,439 --> 01:15:05,080
Speaker 2: on Johnny Newton is selected within the first thirty one picks.

1572
01:15:05,760 --> 01:15:08,439
Speaker 2: That was a sandwich prop that Greg put out there.

1573
01:15:08,640 --> 01:15:13,559
Speaker 2: He really loved this defender, and Dan and Mark took

1574
01:15:13,600 --> 01:15:16,599
Speaker 2: him on it, and we were kind of caught off

1575
01:15:16,600 --> 01:15:18,360
Speaker 2: guard by.

1576
01:15:18,280 --> 01:15:19,160
Speaker 1: The Newton prediction.

1577
01:15:20,760 --> 01:15:26,040
Speaker 2: And here was an explanation from Ian Rappaport on Friday,

1578
01:15:26,120 --> 01:15:29,040
Speaker 2: why Newton fell out of the first round. Let's start here,

1579
01:15:29,160 --> 01:15:30,840
Speaker 2: which cost Greg the sandwiches.

1580
01:15:31,680 --> 01:15:35,080
Speaker 7: Johnny Newton considered by many to be a first round talent.

1581
01:15:35,320 --> 01:15:37,400
Speaker 1: So that does a guy like that follow the second round?

1582
01:15:37,640 --> 01:15:40,320
Speaker 7: Still dealing with the effects of a Joneses fracture at

1583
01:15:40,400 --> 01:15:41,959
Speaker 7: surgery in January.

1584
01:15:42,200 --> 01:15:44,920
Speaker 2: He's got any medical red flags? Got any off the

1585
01:15:44,960 --> 01:15:45,599
Speaker 2: field issues?

1586
01:15:45,760 --> 01:15:46,320
Speaker 1: No?

1587
01:15:46,320 --> 01:15:52,680
Speaker 3: No, no, Well wait a minute, though we talked, you

1588
01:15:52,840 --> 01:15:55,760
Speaker 3: mentioned the Jones fracture. You and I dug in on

1589
01:15:55,800 --> 01:15:58,600
Speaker 3: our laptops after we didn't remember we wanted to go

1590
01:15:58,640 --> 01:16:02,240
Speaker 3: do our own homework. I was after after that, and uh,

1591
01:16:03,240 --> 01:16:05,479
Speaker 3: what is the suggestion that we take this off the board?

1592
01:16:06,200 --> 01:16:08,240
Speaker 1: Maybe a plane fast and loose.

1593
01:16:10,640 --> 01:16:14,200
Speaker 2: What I'm trying to say is, first of all, it

1594
01:16:14,240 --> 01:16:16,519
Speaker 2: was a rain maker too, So you're costing people money

1595
01:16:16,520 --> 01:16:20,400
Speaker 2: and you're you're costing Susie braces. But you also threw

1596
01:16:20,439 --> 01:16:24,519
Speaker 2: out that prop and when we asked you if there

1597
01:16:24,520 --> 01:16:28,920
Speaker 2: were any medical red flags, you told us no. So

1598
01:16:28,960 --> 01:16:32,599
Speaker 2: you've fed us erroneous information. But I just want to say, like,

1599
01:16:32,640 --> 01:16:36,519
Speaker 2: that's that's a little bit dirty pool on top of

1600
01:16:36,560 --> 01:16:37,120
Speaker 2: everything else.

1601
01:16:37,360 --> 01:16:42,360
Speaker 1: I agree, but I fed you erroneous information that hurt me.

1602
01:16:43,160 --> 01:16:46,120
Speaker 4: I made it more likely that you wouldn't take it

1603
01:16:46,479 --> 01:16:50,080
Speaker 4: what I clearly was operating from a position of ignorance

1604
01:16:50,479 --> 01:16:52,559
Speaker 4: about his foot injury, or else I wouldn't have done

1605
01:16:52,560 --> 01:16:54,599
Speaker 4: the thing in the first place. I mean, you're you're

1606
01:16:54,680 --> 01:16:56,519
Speaker 4: correct to point out I was an idiot, but I

1607
01:16:56,560 --> 01:16:59,400
Speaker 4: was not being a devious idiot. I made I put

1608
01:16:59,439 --> 01:17:02,639
Speaker 4: myself in You think I would have gotten I think

1609
01:17:02,640 --> 01:17:04,120
Speaker 4: I would have gone that pick. I just watched the

1610
01:17:04,160 --> 01:17:06,120
Speaker 4: tape and I was like, this guy's a top ten pick.

1611
01:17:06,960 --> 01:17:10,360
Speaker 2: When Mark and I are trying to decide whether to

1612
01:17:10,560 --> 01:17:14,600
Speaker 2: take you on the idea of him going top thirty one, yeah,

1613
01:17:15,160 --> 01:17:18,599
Speaker 2: if he does have a red flag medically, yeah, that's

1614
01:17:18,640 --> 01:17:22,400
Speaker 2: gonna make Mark and I more confident that will take

1615
01:17:22,439 --> 01:17:25,720
Speaker 2: you on the wager. Yeah, so it did take him

1616
01:17:25,720 --> 01:17:28,960
Speaker 2: on it you almost only after Mark and I did

1617
01:17:28,960 --> 01:17:31,439
Speaker 2: some research on the fly. But if we would have

1618
01:17:31,640 --> 01:17:34,760
Speaker 2: as I typically do with what you say, Greg, by

1619
01:17:34,840 --> 01:17:38,920
Speaker 2: your word, we would have been caught sandwiches and we

1620
01:17:38,960 --> 01:17:43,000
Speaker 2: would have been misled. And I think there's something else

1621
01:17:43,040 --> 01:17:44,160
Speaker 2: going on here, potentially.

1622
01:17:44,200 --> 01:17:46,400
Speaker 3: The worst aspect to it is then you have to

1623
01:17:46,479 --> 01:17:49,679
Speaker 3: start to you know, dial back through time this in fact,

1624
01:17:49,720 --> 01:17:54,479
Speaker 3: this very episode, and wonder what Greg has said about anything.

1625
01:17:54,920 --> 01:17:56,840
Speaker 3: It's like, do we have to go do our own

1626
01:17:56,880 --> 01:17:58,759
Speaker 3: research on when he picks a winner or a loser?

1627
01:17:58,800 --> 01:18:00,840
Speaker 3: We have to, we should, but to go, you know,

1628
01:18:01,000 --> 01:18:02,599
Speaker 3: check those facts too, Greg.

1629
01:18:02,640 --> 01:18:06,479
Speaker 2: So it's a troubling this is Heiser SoSE stuff going

1630
01:18:06,520 --> 01:18:06,920
Speaker 2: on here.

1631
01:18:07,880 --> 01:18:11,720
Speaker 1: I mean, I own up to my mistakes. This was

1632
01:18:11,760 --> 01:18:12,400
Speaker 1: a space.

1633
01:18:12,520 --> 01:18:14,439
Speaker 4: I think I knew that at some point and somehow

1634
01:18:14,479 --> 01:18:17,880
Speaker 4: it was totally gone. I would not have put h

1635
01:18:18,680 --> 01:18:24,640
Speaker 4: you know, little Ali in uh Worcestershire, in England's Christmas

1636
01:18:26,160 --> 01:18:29,200
Speaker 4: gift on the line if I had known about that necessarily.

1637
01:18:29,200 --> 01:18:31,880
Speaker 4: But I still can't believe it. And in history's gonna

1638
01:18:31,880 --> 01:18:35,120
Speaker 4: prove me right. All the NFL teams are wrong. Johnny

1639
01:18:35,160 --> 01:18:36,000
Speaker 4: Newton's gonna have.

1640
01:18:35,960 --> 01:18:38,200
Speaker 1: A great career. How did you let this guy go?

1641
01:18:38,760 --> 01:18:41,479
Speaker 2: You finished six and six winnu factor in all the

1642
01:18:41,520 --> 01:18:44,400
Speaker 2: sanguages with one right. Finally, I almost had one of

1643
01:18:44,439 --> 01:18:49,519
Speaker 2: the all time sandwich weekends. Let's start with almost first

1644
01:18:49,600 --> 01:18:52,000
Speaker 2: round selection under I said, I thought it would be

1645
01:18:52,080 --> 01:18:56,120
Speaker 2: QBQBQB wide receiver, wide receiver, wide receiver tackle. It ended

1646
01:18:56,200 --> 01:19:00,400
Speaker 2: up being QBQBQB wide receiver tackle, wide receiver tackle. So

1647
01:19:00,840 --> 01:19:02,200
Speaker 2: was Jim Harbaugh.

1648
01:19:02,240 --> 01:19:03,680
Speaker 1: And then Chargers.

1649
01:19:03,760 --> 01:19:06,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, one off not trading out of the pick, and

1650
01:19:06,280 --> 01:19:09,280
Speaker 2: then a team or not picking a wide receiver, or

1651
01:19:09,360 --> 01:19:11,000
Speaker 2: team trade again and taking a wide receiver.

1652
01:19:11,040 --> 01:19:11,880
Speaker 1: That ultimately cost me.

1653
01:19:11,920 --> 01:19:14,400
Speaker 2: So I got six out of seven, but I had

1654
01:19:14,439 --> 01:19:16,440
Speaker 2: to get them all, so I cost me two sangwiches.

1655
01:19:17,240 --> 01:19:19,599
Speaker 1: I had the Chiefs trade up for a wide receiver.

1656
01:19:19,680 --> 01:19:23,479
Speaker 2: They did, They indeed did do that and took an

1657
01:19:23,600 --> 01:19:28,160
Speaker 2: Xavier Worthy and that trade. In my mind I kind

1658
01:19:28,160 --> 01:19:30,760
Speaker 2: of saw I saw them moving up to you know,

1659
01:19:30,800 --> 01:19:32,680
Speaker 2: the middle of the first round, or even getting really

1660
01:19:32,720 --> 01:19:35,640
Speaker 2: bold and moving up into the top ten. But they

1661
01:19:35,720 --> 01:19:37,920
Speaker 2: only moved up a few spots. But it was within

1662
01:19:37,960 --> 01:19:39,880
Speaker 2: the realm of the wager and they went and they

1663
01:19:39,920 --> 01:19:43,000
Speaker 2: got their man. So I got two Sangwiches there. A

1664
01:19:43,040 --> 01:19:46,400
Speaker 2: Pro Bowl player Slash All Pro Slash All PFF team

1665
01:19:46,400 --> 01:19:52,000
Speaker 2: player is traded prior to midnight Friday, April twenty sixth,

1666
01:19:52,520 --> 01:19:56,720
Speaker 2: twenty twenty four. You know that the San Francisco forty

1667
01:19:56,760 --> 01:20:00,040
Speaker 2: nine ers stuff was very interesting, but I also I

1668
01:20:00,040 --> 01:20:02,479
Speaker 2: should have kept it open for the entire draft process.

1669
01:20:02,520 --> 01:20:05,160
Speaker 2: It wouldn't have mattered anyway, but nothing was done by

1670
01:20:05,160 --> 01:20:07,680
Speaker 2: the end of Night one, so I lost two Sangwiches.

1671
01:20:07,720 --> 01:20:11,439
Speaker 2: And then at the end of our Thursday podcast when

1672
01:20:11,439 --> 01:20:14,360
Speaker 2: we recapped Night one, I actually or excuse me, I

1673
01:20:14,400 --> 01:20:18,759
Speaker 2: had one extra one Detroit Drafts a player present at

1674
01:20:18,840 --> 01:20:22,639
Speaker 2: the draft. I said, there's no way, given the amount

1675
01:20:22,640 --> 01:20:24,400
Speaker 2: of people that were going to be there, the celebration

1676
01:20:24,560 --> 01:20:27,320
Speaker 2: that the Lions were going to, you know, throw it

1677
01:20:27,360 --> 01:20:32,280
Speaker 2: to someone's living room in Central Arkansas. And I was

1678
01:20:32,280 --> 01:20:37,759
Speaker 2: proven absolutely correct because they made who they picking that Arrian, Arnold,

1679
01:20:38,720 --> 01:20:41,000
Speaker 2: Terry and Arnold and he walked and the Lions fans

1680
01:20:41,040 --> 01:20:44,400
Speaker 2: went mad and we had a great moment for everyone there,

1681
01:20:44,439 --> 01:20:46,800
Speaker 2: and I got two Sanguiges there.

1682
01:20:47,120 --> 01:20:50,080
Speaker 3: That is an example of you know, people can pick

1683
01:20:50,080 --> 01:20:52,519
Speaker 3: apart what we get right or wrong here there, But

1684
01:20:52,600 --> 01:20:55,280
Speaker 3: that is an example of you having a hand on

1685
01:20:55,360 --> 01:20:58,519
Speaker 3: the pulse of not only the league, but how show

1686
01:20:58,560 --> 01:21:00,880
Speaker 3: business works and how you So this was the biggest

1687
01:21:00,880 --> 01:21:06,080
Speaker 3: crowd ever, live live crowd ever. Detroit can can own that,

1688
01:21:06,600 --> 01:21:09,120
Speaker 3: and there's no way you disappoint the biggest crowd ever.

1689
01:21:09,160 --> 01:21:11,639
Speaker 3: And you were absolutely correct about that in a well

1690
01:21:11,640 --> 01:21:12,600
Speaker 3: done that was.

1691
01:21:12,640 --> 01:21:13,559
Speaker 1: That was pretty savvy.

1692
01:21:13,600 --> 01:21:15,880
Speaker 4: And they needed a little luck for Arnold to drop down.

1693
01:21:15,920 --> 01:21:17,880
Speaker 4: I guess they could have taken Darius Robinson. My guess

1694
01:21:18,000 --> 01:21:20,200
Speaker 4: is by the time they and they traded up for

1695
01:21:20,200 --> 01:21:23,120
Speaker 4: that pick, I think there were only two players left

1696
01:21:23,360 --> 01:21:26,439
Speaker 4: him and Darius Robinson. But maybe maybe they just would

1697
01:21:26,439 --> 01:21:29,760
Speaker 4: have just for showman's sake, taken Robinson. No matter what,

1698
01:21:29,920 --> 01:21:34,000
Speaker 4: that that is an impressive two pack of ones you

1699
01:21:34,040 --> 01:21:36,320
Speaker 4: got right there, Dan, you are I went nine and four.

1700
01:21:36,439 --> 01:21:38,599
Speaker 1: You are the winner. I went the winner.

1701
01:21:39,040 --> 01:21:40,800
Speaker 4: You could have helped you out. There was one trade.

1702
01:21:40,800 --> 01:21:44,280
Speaker 4: Trades kind of were the loser. We talked so much about, yeah,

1703
01:21:44,720 --> 01:21:46,760
Speaker 4: trades leading up to the draft, and nothing happened. But

1704
01:21:46,840 --> 01:21:51,080
Speaker 4: your your Jets traded Jonathan Franklin Myers to the Broncos, Right,

1705
01:21:51,120 --> 01:21:53,600
Speaker 4: future six. So that was the only veteran trade I

1706
01:21:53,600 --> 01:21:54,080
Speaker 4: can think of.

1707
01:21:54,680 --> 01:21:56,840
Speaker 2: And Nick fourtier does awesome work on go get my

1708
01:21:56,960 --> 01:21:59,720
Speaker 2: Lunch dot org, which is a living document of the

1709
01:21:59,760 --> 01:22:03,360
Speaker 2: his three of this podcast in many ways has changed

1710
01:22:03,360 --> 01:22:05,479
Speaker 2: some of the layout to the all time standings and

1711
01:22:05,520 --> 01:22:08,240
Speaker 2: clarified it a bit. And I don't know if this

1712
01:22:08,360 --> 01:22:11,920
Speaker 2: standings are updated the all time standings, Greg, but I

1713
01:22:11,960 --> 01:22:15,160
Speaker 2: am now five games clear of you on the win column. Uh,

1714
01:22:15,240 --> 01:22:18,120
Speaker 2: two thirty five and two oh five all time fifty

1715
01:22:18,160 --> 01:22:21,080
Speaker 2: three point four one percent, your second fifty two point

1716
01:22:21,160 --> 01:22:23,840
Speaker 2: fifty five to one percent two thirty and two oh

1717
01:22:23,920 --> 01:22:29,320
Speaker 2: eight wes. Uh, And we miss Wes always, especially uh

1718
01:22:30,240 --> 01:22:31,040
Speaker 2: weekends like this.

1719
01:22:31,479 --> 01:22:31,639
Speaker 1: Uh.

1720
01:22:31,640 --> 01:22:34,120
Speaker 2: He finished one sixty three and one fifty five, so

1721
01:22:34,160 --> 01:22:36,960
Speaker 2: he finished fifty one point twenty six percent. And Mark,

1722
01:22:37,040 --> 01:22:39,840
Speaker 2: you are at one ninety six and two twenty five.

1723
01:22:40,000 --> 01:22:42,439
Speaker 2: You're sitting at forty six point five six percent.

1724
01:22:42,640 --> 01:22:45,280
Speaker 3: I mean, okay, but I I think if we were

1725
01:22:45,320 --> 01:22:47,800
Speaker 3: to track why that's happening to me on some level,

1726
01:22:48,080 --> 01:22:50,559
Speaker 3: I always have to parse this, but I never took

1727
01:22:51,080 --> 01:22:53,439
Speaker 3: anyone on sandwiches early on in this and that's what

1728
01:22:53,520 --> 01:22:55,880
Speaker 3: that's bad strategy. That's on me and then some of

1729
01:22:55,920 --> 01:22:57,960
Speaker 3: mine are just, uh, you know you're shooting for the moon.

1730
01:22:59,360 --> 01:23:04,920
Speaker 1: Well, in this particular addition, you came in last.

1731
01:23:06,320 --> 01:23:09,160
Speaker 3: I think I've almost regularly come in last. And I

1732
01:23:09,160 --> 01:23:12,320
Speaker 3: think you'd have to question my overall team building and strategy.

1733
01:23:12,680 --> 01:23:15,479
Speaker 3: I'm not above that, and I'll just do this will

1734
01:23:15,479 --> 01:23:17,519
Speaker 3: be a nice roll call as we wrap up another

1735
01:23:18,040 --> 01:23:20,120
Speaker 3: season in a lot of ways of around the NFL

1736
01:23:21,400 --> 01:23:24,479
Speaker 3: that here are the guest pickers through the years. There

1737
01:23:24,560 --> 01:23:26,760
Speaker 3: by the way, Eric Roberts, who's correct, he's three and

1738
01:23:26,840 --> 01:23:29,800
Speaker 3: oh and etp and he doesn't want to pick because

1739
01:23:29,800 --> 01:23:31,679
Speaker 3: he doesn't want to mess with his perfect record.

1740
01:23:31,720 --> 01:23:37,200
Speaker 2: But he's not the only perfect record. Lakeisha Westling, the wonderful,

1741
01:23:37,200 --> 01:23:40,320
Speaker 2: beautiful Lakeisha, wife of Chris five.

1742
01:23:40,080 --> 01:23:43,240
Speaker 1: And oh all time? Did anybody know five in a lifetime?

1743
01:23:43,600 --> 01:23:45,920
Speaker 2: Here are the other names who have made sandwich props

1744
01:23:45,920 --> 01:23:47,680
Speaker 2: through the years, and people that go back all the

1745
01:23:47,720 --> 01:23:50,719
Speaker 2: way to twenty thirteen with us know all these names,

1746
01:23:50,800 --> 01:23:56,920
Speaker 2: Lakeisha Robins, Cynthia Freeland, Patra the Irishman, Connie Fox and

1747
01:23:57,000 --> 01:23:59,479
Speaker 2: even twenty five and twenty five all time the sandwich

1748
01:23:59,520 --> 01:24:03,160
Speaker 2: props Connor or Handsome Hank Kyle Brandt.

1749
01:24:02,800 --> 01:24:05,080
Speaker 1: Is three and three in the Sandwich Props.

1750
01:24:05,000 --> 01:24:11,120
Speaker 2: Claybahn td our original producer, Erica Tamposi, The gold Standard,

1751
01:24:11,320 --> 01:24:15,920
Speaker 2: Ali Purry's Own one Lifetime, Kevin Danger Hans This my Brother,

1752
01:24:15,960 --> 01:24:20,800
Speaker 2: Owen one lifetime, Spice, rack Zi Drizzle, Zach Dressler, I

1753
01:24:20,840 --> 01:24:24,599
Speaker 2: love Zach, the if you Know you Know, Brave Digger

1754
01:24:24,640 --> 01:24:30,400
Speaker 2: went Owen seven and Sidney Carlson the great iconic lassid

1755
01:24:30,520 --> 01:24:32,400
Speaker 2: oh and nine lifetime. We might have to get her

1756
01:24:32,479 --> 01:24:34,360
Speaker 2: out of Utah just to get one right, to get

1757
01:24:34,360 --> 01:24:35,439
Speaker 2: her out off the schne.

1758
01:24:35,400 --> 01:24:38,280
Speaker 4: I mean, oh and seven is in nine is somehow

1759
01:24:38,560 --> 01:24:41,400
Speaker 4: better than one in thirteen from the gold standard. One

1760
01:24:41,439 --> 01:24:46,000
Speaker 4: in thirteen is just a preposterous record. I had lunch

1761
01:24:46,000 --> 01:24:49,400
Speaker 4: with the gold Standard recently. Good guy, good buddy.

1762
01:24:49,680 --> 01:24:50,519
Speaker 1: Love that dude too.

1763
01:24:50,640 --> 01:24:55,240
Speaker 2: We've been very lucky to work with great people, Speaking

1764
01:24:55,280 --> 01:24:58,880
Speaker 2: of which you might have heard or read that Andrew

1765
01:24:58,920 --> 01:25:03,160
Speaker 2: Siciliano is no longer with NFL Media, which is a

1766
01:25:03,200 --> 01:25:07,400
Speaker 2: major loss for the company and whatever comes next for

1767
01:25:07,439 --> 01:25:12,439
Speaker 2: Andrew that company gets better. While our company didn't shout

1768
01:25:12,479 --> 01:25:15,320
Speaker 2: out to Andrew and hope to see him and Hermosa

1769
01:25:15,360 --> 01:25:19,320
Speaker 2: Beach in the near future. James Palmer also who's been

1770
01:25:19,320 --> 01:25:23,600
Speaker 2: on the show, and we he'll no longer be with

1771
01:25:23,640 --> 01:25:26,719
Speaker 2: the company, and bigger and brighter things ahead for him

1772
01:25:27,120 --> 01:25:27,679
Speaker 2: as well.

1773
01:25:28,200 --> 01:25:29,240
Speaker 1: It's been a long year.

1774
01:25:29,280 --> 01:25:32,120
Speaker 2: It's been at times a difficult year for NFL media,

1775
01:25:32,280 --> 01:25:34,760
Speaker 2: but those are two names we wanted to mention on

1776
01:25:34,800 --> 01:25:38,800
Speaker 2: the show because they were obviously huge contributors to what

1777
01:25:38,840 --> 01:25:39,160
Speaker 2: we did.

1778
01:25:39,479 --> 01:25:43,439
Speaker 3: I think also, like you're any fan out there has

1779
01:25:43,920 --> 01:25:50,000
Speaker 3: logged hours watching both of those gentlemen and Andrew on

1780
01:25:50,320 --> 01:25:54,200
Speaker 3: you know, every type of football show there is, all

1781
01:25:54,200 --> 01:25:56,720
Speaker 3: season long, and a lot of times you're wondering, like,

1782
01:25:56,720 --> 01:25:57,800
Speaker 3: who are these media people?

1783
01:25:57,840 --> 01:25:59,360
Speaker 1: Are they good people behind the scenes?

1784
01:25:59,360 --> 01:26:01,080
Speaker 3: So are they quality people or is it just all

1785
01:26:01,200 --> 01:26:04,720
Speaker 3: you know, the way the negative stories you hear, It's like, no,

1786
01:26:04,920 --> 01:26:08,799
Speaker 3: these Andrew Siciliano is one of the kindest, nicest people

1787
01:26:08,840 --> 01:26:12,519
Speaker 3: that's ever walked through our newsroom and literally knows everyone's name,

1788
01:26:12,640 --> 01:26:16,719
Speaker 3: talk to everyone, like, treats everyone equal. And James Palmer,

1789
01:26:16,720 --> 01:26:18,760
Speaker 3: who was often not in our newsroom, but whenever you'd

1790
01:26:18,760 --> 01:26:20,920
Speaker 3: see him at events, like the same goes for him,

1791
01:26:20,920 --> 01:26:24,200
Speaker 3: and it's like you're losing not just incredible professionals, but

1792
01:26:24,720 --> 01:26:27,040
Speaker 3: high quality people and they're not You can't just replace

1793
01:26:27,080 --> 01:26:29,479
Speaker 3: these people, you don't replace them, they're just they're not there.

1794
01:26:30,080 --> 01:26:32,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've watched a lot of NFL Network over the years.

1795
01:26:32,680 --> 01:26:35,600
Speaker 4: Rich Eisen obviously had the massive lead of just like

1796
01:26:35,760 --> 01:26:41,639
Speaker 4: hours logged on NFL Network for a decade. I bet

1797
01:26:41,680 --> 01:26:45,080
Speaker 4: Andrew passed them at some point. That Andrew Sicilliano has

1798
01:26:45,120 --> 01:26:48,560
Speaker 4: literally been on our air more than any person, I

1799
01:26:48,840 --> 01:26:51,200
Speaker 4: would guess. Ever, part of it is because of the

1800
01:26:51,280 --> 01:26:53,280
Speaker 4: name of our show. Remember we change from Around the

1801
01:26:53,320 --> 01:26:57,080
Speaker 4: League to Around the NFL to synchronize with the show

1802
01:26:57,120 --> 01:26:59,679
Speaker 4: that that Andrew is hosting Around the NFL, which which

1803
01:26:59,760 --> 01:27:01,200
Speaker 4: lasts a year or two, and then they kind of

1804
01:27:01,280 --> 01:27:03,880
Speaker 4: change the name to NFL Now. As it happens, we

1805
01:27:04,160 --> 01:27:06,760
Speaker 4: got our name. And he was so welcoming on that,

1806
01:27:06,800 --> 01:27:08,920
Speaker 4: and I told him this, and it's true, Like there's

1807
01:27:08,920 --> 01:27:11,200
Speaker 4: no one I respected more at the entire company in

1808
01:27:11,240 --> 01:27:12,800
Speaker 4: terms of the way he does his job and what

1809
01:27:12,880 --> 01:27:15,799
Speaker 4: a good job he does. And you heard that echoed

1810
01:27:15,800 --> 01:27:18,160
Speaker 4: from so many people. It's just an awesome host, just

1811
01:27:18,200 --> 01:27:18,840
Speaker 4: an awesome guy.

1812
01:27:20,520 --> 01:27:27,640
Speaker 2: All Right, Okay, so we'll be back Tuesday and Thursday.

1813
01:27:27,720 --> 01:27:31,320
Speaker 2: It's our Around the AFC and Around the NFC specials,

1814
01:27:31,360 --> 01:27:34,680
Speaker 2: and we'll hit obviously on every team, and where they

1815
01:27:34,800 --> 01:27:36,720
Speaker 2: look and how they stand as they come out of

1816
01:27:36,760 --> 01:27:39,160
Speaker 2: free agencies, and now they've come out of the draft,

1817
01:27:39,840 --> 01:27:42,680
Speaker 2: and they head into the off season and the programs.

1818
01:27:42,760 --> 01:27:46,400
Speaker 1: Then the wheel earns and turns and turns. Thank you

1819
01:27:46,439 --> 01:27:49,400
Speaker 1: everybody for listening. He's the call.