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Speaker 1: The Charlie Kirk Show starts.

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Speaker 2: Now, these No King's rallies actually look pretty representative to

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Speaker 2: me of the Democratic Coalition. I saw people flying the

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Speaker 2: hammer and sickle in New York City.

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Speaker 1: I saw Hezbolla.

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Speaker 2: Flags, I saw Hamas flags, I saw Palestinian flags, I

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Speaker 2: saw trans signs. I see weirdo liberal boomers out there.

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Speaker 2: This is pretty representative of the Democratic Coalition, and that's

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Speaker 2: who funds it as well. By the way, and so

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Speaker 2: I think if America looks at this and says, what

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Speaker 2: do the two parties stand for? They got it at

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Speaker 2: the New Kingdom.

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Speaker 3: Now I wanted to sex and I'll tell you there's

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Speaker 3: so much excitement, there's so much energy. Yeah, a lot

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Speaker 3: of free I'll get a T shirt.

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Speaker 4: That's a lot of free speech for a country.

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Speaker 5: There's a lot of free speech.

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Speaker 6: I tell you we're ahead of schedule.

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Speaker 1: Where are in?

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Speaker 7: Where weeks ahead of schedules? If you would have said

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Speaker 7: that in three days we were going to knock out

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Speaker 7: one hundred and fifty eight chips their retire navy, which

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Speaker 7: we knocked out their entire air force. We knocked out

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Speaker 7: most of their missiles. That's why you see missile attacks

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Speaker 7: but they're down to their sputtering and we have a group.

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Speaker 5: It's really a new regime.

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Speaker 7: It's a new group of people, people that we've never

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Speaker 7: dealt with before that are acting very reasonable. It is

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Speaker 7: truly regime. Jay.

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Speaker 1: Look at this region.

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Speaker 8: Every single terrorist group in this region has a link

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Speaker 8: to the Iranian regime. Every single one the Houthis has

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Speaker 8: below Hamas, the Shia militias that are attacking everyone out

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Speaker 8: of a rock, every single one of these groups had.

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Speaker 8: All the destabilization in this region tracks directly back to

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Speaker 8: the Iranian regime. Those things have to be addressed. And

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Speaker 8: if Roan had been willing to address to us in

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Speaker 8: the past, we wouldn't be having this interview on this

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Speaker 6: Their refusal to.

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Speaker 8: Do so, and they're continuing move towards one day acquiring

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Speaker 8: a nuclear capability. These people are lunatics. They are insane.

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Speaker 8: They are religious zelots who can never be allowed to

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Speaker 8: possess a nuclear weapon because they have an apocalyptic vision

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Speaker 8: of the future and all their neighbors know that.

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Speaker 9: By the way, she called the Ayatola come any the

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Speaker 9: new Hitler of the Middle East.

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Speaker 10: In absolutely why and you needed it because he wants

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Speaker 10: to expand. He wants to create his own project in

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Speaker 10: the Middle East, very much like Hitler who wanted to expand.

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Speaker 10: At the time, many countries around the world and in

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Speaker 10: Europe did not realize how dangerous Hitler was until what

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Speaker 10: happened happened.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to see the same events happening in

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Speaker 1: the Middle East.

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Speaker 9: Does Saudi Arabia need nuclear weapons to counter Iran?

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Speaker 10: Saudi Arabia does not want to acquire any nuclear bond,

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Speaker 10: but without a doubt, if Iran developed a nuclear bomb,

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Speaker 10: we will follow suit as soon as possible.

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Speaker 11: The reports indicate the United States is preparing for the

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Speaker 11: possibility of ground operations into Iran. Thirty five hundred additional

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Speaker 11: US service members arrived in the Sitcom area of offer

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Speaker 11: rations this weekend, including twenty five hundred marines on the

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Speaker 11: USS Tripoli and Amphibious Assault ship. The build up comes

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Speaker 11: as US and Israeli forces targeted a variety of positions

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Speaker 11: between Israel and Iran and between Israel and Hezbala in

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Speaker 6: Another front opened.

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Speaker 11: Over the weekend, the Iran, Bakhutis and Yemen launched a

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Speaker 11: their participation in the conflict.

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Speaker 12: Over time, the US is going to retake control the

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Speaker 7: As you know, the Three too said eight votes two

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Speaker 7: days ago, and then they edited another two show is

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Speaker 7: ten votes, and now today they gave us as attributed

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Speaker 7: to that or no, if I can't define it exactly,

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Speaker 7: they gave us, I think out a design of respect

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Speaker 7: twenty votes. Of oil, big big boats of oil going

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Speaker 8: Now they are making threats about controlling the hormone straits

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Speaker 5: And the like.

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Speaker 6: That's not going to be allowed to happen.

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Speaker 8: And the President has a number of options available to

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Speaker 8: him if he so chooses to prevent that from happening.

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Speaker 8: In happening, obviously, I'm not going to discuss what those

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Speaker 8: options are, and we're not going to discuss military tactics

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Speaker 8: the Department of War would be in charge of those things.

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Speaker 8: I refer you to them, but obviously they're not going

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Speaker 8: to discuss it with you either. But there is a

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Speaker 8: way forward here to achieve our objectives. We are going

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Speaker 8: to achieve our objectives in a matter of weeks, not months.

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Speaker 5: Twenty twenty six March, the two hundred and fiftieth birthday

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Speaker 5: of the United States.

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Speaker 6: Has it done?

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Speaker 1: Trump?

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Speaker 5: He's making America great again.

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Speaker 6: I intend to make you wrong great again.

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Speaker 13: Every day is a battle for your mind, raging information

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Speaker 13: coming from every angle, but the will to the sieve,

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Speaker 13: fear not.

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Speaker 1: You found the place for.

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Speaker 13: Truth, the voice of a generation that still has the

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Speaker 13: will to believe in the greatest country in the history

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Speaker 5: This is the.

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Speaker 1: Charlie Kirk Show. Fuck a lot, here we go.

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Speaker 14: Wow, all right, Welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show. It's Monday,

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Speaker 14: March thirtieth, twenty twenty six, here at the Bitcoin dot

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Speaker 14: Com Studios in Phoenix, Arizona.

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Speaker 1: Welcome, Blake, Howdy howdy. We've got a jam packed show

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Speaker 1: for you.

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Speaker 14: Lots of news over the weekend to get to and

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Speaker 14: a Japanese timeline purge on x not a purge s sure, well,

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Speaker 14: it's like a cleanse, that's what it is. The Japanese

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Speaker 14: are amazing. We love them and it's been amazing watching

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Speaker 14: them take over X It's been much needed, and we're

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Speaker 14: gonna get to that too. In the second segment here,

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Speaker 14: we've also got Michael Knowles from The Daily Why are

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Speaker 14: We're gonna talk about Cardinal Pizza Bala, which is by

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Speaker 14: far the coolest name in all of Catholicism.

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Speaker 1: It has to be.

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Speaker 14: He's the what is he the Latin Patriot of Jerusalem,

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Speaker 14: So we're gonna talk about some of that controversy as well.

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Speaker 14: Then an hour two, we've got the We're gonna be

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Speaker 14: keeping our eyes out for a press conference about Iran.

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Speaker 14: Apparently there's gonna be some updates there. And then we've

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Speaker 14: also got our tposa front lines team that was scattered

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Speaker 14: out across the country this weekend covering the No Kings protests.

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Speaker 14: We've got three of those frontline journalists joining us. And

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Speaker 14: then we've got the apostate prophet Rid Vaughan, who was

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Speaker 14: formerly a Muslim, now he's a Christian and he's gonna

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Speaker 14: be talking about the state of the ground at what

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Speaker 14: the what the grassroots feels like in Iran, are they

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Speaker 14: ready to rise up?

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Speaker 1: Are they not?

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Speaker 14: And he's been doing research all weekend getting ready for

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Speaker 14: this segment, so I can't wait to hear what he

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Speaker 1: We've got to start, though, with updates on Iran.

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Speaker 14: The biggest controversy over the weekend that I could see

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Speaker 14: was whether or not We're going to be sending ground

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Speaker 6: And it still remains up in the air.

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Speaker 1: It remains up in the air. Let's go ahead and play.

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Speaker 11: St six reports indicate the United States is preparing for

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Speaker 11: a possible weeks long ground operation in Iran that would

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Speaker 11: include thousands of US service members. Over the weekend, the

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Speaker 11: USS Tripoli, manned with thirty five hundred troops, including twenty

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Speaker 6: This comes as the United States.

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Speaker 11: And Israel launched a series of strikes against the running

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Speaker 14: So we're obviously getting a lot of folks ready over there.

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Speaker 14: Thousands of US troops are getting stationed and ready to go.

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Speaker 14: And I just want to be very clear where I stand,

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Speaker 14: where I believe Blake stands where I think Turning Points

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Speaker 14: stands frankly, is we give President Trump a lot of trust,

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Speaker 14: a lot of patients when it comes to this. He's

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Speaker 14: proven that he doesn't do quagmires, he doesn't do forever wars,

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Speaker 14: and we've been willing to sort of, you know, be

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Speaker 14: and we hope for the best, we pray for our troops,

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Speaker 14: but really, boots on the ground is a line we

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Speaker 14: don't want to cross, and we are not supportive of

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Speaker 15: And as we've warned, whatever you make of the merits

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Speaker 6: Continues long term.

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Speaker 1: Yes, and we want to.

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Speaker 15: Make that clear, especially because I think there's a lot

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Speaker 6: If you look at the numbers. This is probably the most.

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Speaker 15: Skeptical the public has been about any conflict of.

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Speaker 14: And we've been honest, We've never We've not been frothing

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Speaker 14: you know, enthusiastic in our support.

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Speaker 1: What we're saying is we don't like war. We hate it.

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Speaker 14: Actually doesn't mean that this wasn't the best national security

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Speaker 14: decision that the President could have made. I'm not in

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Speaker 14: the room, I don't know the intel, but we do

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Speaker 14: out of control. And it does seem like President Trump

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Speaker 14: is signaling that things are getting better. He put out

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Speaker 14: to encourage the markets. You know, a lot of people

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Speaker 14: a new and more reasonable regime to end our military

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Speaker 14: operations in Iran. There was another quote where he basically

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Speaker 14: said regime change is already done, essentially to end our

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Speaker 14: military operations in Iran. Great progress has been made. But

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Speaker 14: if for any reason, a deal is not shortly reached,

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Speaker 14: which it probably will be, and if the horror move

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Speaker 14: straight is not immediately open for business, we will conclude

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Speaker 14: our lovely staying around by blowing up and completely obliterating

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Speaker 14: all of their electric generating plants, oil wells and carg island,

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Speaker 14: yet touched. This will be in retribution for our many

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Speaker 14: soldiers and others that Iran has butchered and killed over

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Speaker 14: the old regime's forty seven year reign of terror. Thank

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Speaker 14: you for your attention to this matter, President Donald J.

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Speaker 1: Trump.

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Speaker 15: And part of what's complicated here is we want this

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Speaker 15: to end quickly. We want this to end without escalation,

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Speaker 15: and we are aware that the President's negotiating style does

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Speaker 15: include lots of say, very aggressive threats and saber rattling

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Speaker 15: the president playing super hardball does help him get out faster,

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Speaker 7: eight plus two. It's ten massive boat loads of oil.

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Speaker 7: And today they gave us another present. They gave us

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Speaker 14: So I'm very pro signaling that this thing can get done,

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Speaker 14: Little bit more, and then you think, well, we're pot committed.

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Speaker 14: And that, really, I think is the crux of the matter.

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Speaker 14: Blake's hair has still to grow yet to grow back,

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Speaker 14: but we have faith that.

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Speaker 1: That's gonna happen. There's hair all over. Yeah, I mean, listen,

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Speaker 14: You are harrier than we see har these old clips

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Speaker 14: and Blake, they now have hair in the soul.

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Speaker 1: Okay, well it's getting confusing. Now we're gonna be right back.

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Speaker 14: We're gonna break down the Japanese Twitter immersion.

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Speaker 17: We'll be right back.

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Speaker 1: I love it. Okay.

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Speaker 14: So if you are not on X, consider yourself lucky

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Speaker 14: actually most of the time, yeah, mostly, But if you

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Speaker 14: in one of the great cultural exchanges I have ever seen. Actually,

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Speaker 14: and what's amazing about it is that, you know, so

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Speaker 14: there's a guy on Twitter that I think he's kind

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Speaker 1: The saturation of Japanese users got.

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Speaker 6: Actually it's Nikita beer.

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Speaker 13: He is.

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Speaker 6: Let's see what his title is.

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Speaker 15: He's head of product at X, and he says they

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Speaker 6: And they used to be very much in their own world.

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Speaker 6: And so what EX has started to do.

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Speaker 15: And it really ramped up in the last few weeks,

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Speaker 1: So it's GOT. They have an auto translator.

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Speaker 15: Yeah, because they have an auto translator, and so'll you

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Speaker 15: they're wonderful and they're wonderful and people have discovered this.

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Speaker 6: Especially over the past week.

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Speaker 15: There was a giant explosion of Japanese stuff showing up

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Speaker 14: Well, I heard it put this way that there's like

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Speaker 1: Do we have twenty four ready yet here?

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Speaker 14: This is a good explainer video on how this happened

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Speaker 14: twenty four you're not an.

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Speaker 18: There's a massive love affair going on between Americans and

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Speaker 18: and that's honestly really.

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Speaker 1: Nice to see.

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Speaker 18: Like the timeline is just filled with Japanese people talking

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Speaker 15: I want to participate in this event in person someday.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and then we get got twenty million.

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Speaker 14: something called cultural appropriation.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 14: We have been told in this country that cultural appropriation

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Speaker 14: You can play the b role of these Japanese people

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Speaker 6: They are all.

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Speaker 14: About appropriating American culture and their show, Like I think

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Speaker 15: Yeah, this is a thing that has been the case

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Speaker 1: So they like.

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Speaker 15: Cowboys, they like jazz music, they like classic hollywoods.

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Speaker 6: They like blue grass, Yeah, they like blue grass.

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Speaker 15: They like like gangster movies, like you know, like kind

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Speaker 6: And they like barbecue.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, And it's just so sweet because these people here's

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Speaker 14: The reason you have the current Prime Minister of Japan

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Speaker 1: So it's a pretty homogeneous culture.

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Speaker 14: They don't have to end these videos of them not

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Speaker 14: civilizations starts with a single individual, a single individual, which

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Speaker 14: is an amazing lesson to learn. But here's the thought.

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Speaker 14: Society has been constructed. Civilization has been constructed for millennia Blake.

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Speaker 14: You know, you and I geek out on like British history,

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Speaker 14: The borders get really well constructed, really firm, and we

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Speaker 14: And then you enter into modern culture and the modern world,

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Speaker 14: it's like we forgot that our cultures meant something, that

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Speaker 14: they were worth protecting. And then you get this one

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Speaker 14: And it's marvelous, it's wonderful, And I happen to believe

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Speaker 14: that what you're seeing is going to be this re

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Speaker 14: energizing behind the nation state and about the purity of

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Speaker 14: a culture and the beauty of a culture. This mass migration,

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Speaker 14: this invasion level migration that we've suffered under doesn't need

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Speaker 14: to be the case across the world. We can build

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Speaker 14: antibodies to it and relearn these old lessons against stopping

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Speaker 14: the invading horde.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, this is the other great thing.

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Speaker 17: I think.

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Speaker 15: The other reason this is really blown up on the

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Speaker 15: right is a lot of the stuff that's gone from Japan.

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Speaker 15: Japanese people just saying really right wing stuff like yeah,

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Speaker 15: I'm really tired of all of these immigrants. And then

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Speaker 15: there was one like some I guess, some Muslim migrant

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Speaker 15: to cremate bodies instead of burying them, and he wanted

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Speaker 15: them to change it. And the person they just say

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Speaker 15: the stuff that you practically get in trouble for saying

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Speaker 15: in America, Okay, go to some other country that you

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Speaker 15: know buries bodies, Japan does cremation.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you get that.

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Speaker 6: They say that all the time.

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Speaker 15: And there's a bunch of that, and I think one

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Speaker 15: of the best summaries I saw this was by an American,

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Speaker 15: but it really gets at the heart of it where

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Speaker 15: he says the new auto translate feature is great. Right

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Speaker 15: wing Americans get to read and retweet their cultural allies

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Speaker 15: high conscientious Japanese who cook delicious food and respect craftsmanship,

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Speaker 15: and left wing Americans get to retweet their cultural allies

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Speaker 15: bio leninist communists and third world rapists.

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Speaker 1: I like this one.

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Speaker 14: So this is actually a Korean guy observing this culture

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Speaker 14: exchange happening, and he goes Western right wingers deep admiration

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Speaker 14: for Japanese. For the Japanese proves they're not irrationally xenophobic.

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Speaker 14: They simply dislike dysfunctional people from dysfunctional cultures exactly.

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Speaker 1: And to that, I say, amen, it's really that simple.

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Speaker 14: But there's really not that many good cultures out there,

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Speaker 14: so the list is short. Well, we like those guys.

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Speaker 14: We'll be right back with Michael Knowles, don't go anywhere.

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Speaker 19: Welcome back to this Real America's Voice news break.

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Speaker 6: I'm Terrence Bates.

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Speaker 19: We're keeping an eye on the White House where Press

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Speaker 19: Secretary Caroline Levitt is set to host her latest press

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Speaker 19: briefing to start off this week. That's expected to happen

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Speaker 19: room as you can see journalists getting in place, taking

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Speaker 19: Typically it's a little bit later than that, but of

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Speaker 19: course we'll take you there live the moment it happens.

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Speaker 19: In the meantime, President Trump's day at the White House

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Speaker 19: includes taking pictures with this year's class of White House

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Speaker 19: take time this afternoon to sign legislation the Commander in

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Speaker 19: Chief's construction of The Commander in Construction excuse me, says

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Speaker 19: that his planned White House Ballroom is ahead of schedule

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Speaker 19: a lawsuit seeking to stop.

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Speaker 1: It moves forward.

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Speaker 19: A board Air Force one on Sunday, the President showing

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Speaker 20: Now, the military is building a big complex under the ballroom,

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Speaker 20: which has come out recently because of a stupid lawsuit

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Speaker 20: that was fowed.

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Speaker 16: What.

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Speaker 20: The military is building a massive complex under the ballroom,

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Speaker 20: and that's under construction, and we're.

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Speaker 17: Doing very well.

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Speaker 19: While President Trump is showing off what the new White

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Speaker 19: House Ballroom will look like, he's also waiting for Congress

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Speaker 19: in the Senate to agree on funding the Department of

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Speaker 19: Homeland Security so that TSA agents can get their paychecks.

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Speaker 19: The DHS shutdown is now the longest partial government shutdown.

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Speaker 1: In US history.

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Speaker 19: The Department of Homeland Security is the fourth largest agency

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Speaker 19: in the federal government and makes up just under ten

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Speaker 19: out sick over the past couple of days. That's a

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Speaker 19: quick check off your headlines. As always, we appreciate having

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Speaker 19: you along for the ride. I'm Terrence Bates. We're going

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Speaker 19: to get back to your regularly scheduled programming and we'll

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Speaker 19: have more from the President's news conference or at least

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Speaker 19: the White House Press Secretary's news conference coming up at

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Speaker 19: the top of the hour.

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Speaker 5: This movement will not be silenced.

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Speaker 14: Michael Knowles. Good to see you, Michael.

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Speaker 1: How you been. Good to see you, gentlemen. I'm better

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Speaker 1: now that I'm hanging out with you.

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Speaker 14: Guys, well exactly, and that Japan has taken over our

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Speaker 1: It's great, much appreciated.

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Speaker 14: I know we needed it bad, we needed it real bad.

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Speaker 14: So you know, we have a very ecumenical spirit on

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Speaker 14: this show. We are by nature. He's Catholic. I'm Protestant,

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Speaker 14: although I was born Catholic. But you know, it's a

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Speaker 14: long story your faith.

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Speaker 17: For that.

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Speaker 14: I got saved in college, the old fact. I actually

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Speaker 14: got saved reading a C. S. Lewis book, So you know,

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Speaker 14: Anglican guys. So anyway, so here we are, you know, by.

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Speaker 3: The way, not to derail us, but actually in college

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Speaker 3: when I was like falling away and everything, and it

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Speaker 3: was an evangelical Protestant guy who had a table set

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Speaker 3: up on the Commons and it was somewhat interested in religion,

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Speaker 3: but I was very interested in free stuff, and he

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Speaker 3: was given out books. And one of the first things

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Speaker 3: that brought me back to the faith was an evangelical

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Speaker 3: guy passing me a C. S.

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Speaker 1: Lewis book at at a college table. You know C. S. Lewis.

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Speaker 14: If you haven't read him, read read Mere Chris Shan.

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Speaker 14: It's a great place to start. But I'm actually going

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Speaker 14: through the great divorce right now and a grief observed

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Speaker 14: as well. So he's amazing. He strengthens my faith every

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Speaker 14: time I read his stuff. Anyways, So, but there was

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Speaker 14: a big kerfuffle, all right, and I want to get

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Speaker 14: the Prats and the Catholics, you know, back on the

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Speaker 14: same page. We got to get the vibes right here, Michael.

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Speaker 14: That's why I mean, Charlie's going to be.

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Speaker 15: Rough getting the Protestants on the same page of this.

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Speaker 15: But we should set this up for people. Yes, I

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Speaker 15: aren't aware of this. So there's a major church in

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Speaker 15: the heart of Jerusalem in the Old City, the Church

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Speaker 15: of the Holy Sepulcher. It's built over the site which Catholics,

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Speaker 15: Orthodox a lot of other Christian groups believe is Jesus' tomb.

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Speaker 15: I say that because I know when Charlie went to

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Speaker 15: the Holy Land.

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Speaker 6: There is another tomb that a lot of Protestants like,

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Speaker 6: but this is the one.

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Speaker 15: This is the traditional one, that's been the case for

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Speaker 15: a very long time, and it's in the heart of

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Speaker 15: the old city. And since the beginning of the war

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Speaker 15: with Iran, they have closed the Church of the Holy

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Speaker 15: Sepulcher for religious services.

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Speaker 6: Now what's not brought up by a lot of people.

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Speaker 15: They have also closed Alexamsk, the Dome of the Rock,

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Speaker 15: and they have closed the Western Wall for like a

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Speaker 6: This is palms, but this was Palm Sunday.

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Speaker 15: And the dispute specifically was that the Latin Patriarch of Jerusalem,

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Speaker 15: Pierre Batista Pizzabala, say that.

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Speaker 14: Ten times Bestar the coolest name in Christendom.

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Speaker 15: He complained because he was not allowed even to basically

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Speaker 15: privately him and a couple others offer a Mass for

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Speaker 15: Palm Sunday. And he was very concerned about that, and

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Speaker 15: it caused a lot of back lacks, a pr nightmare

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Speaker 15: four the Israeli government, which eventually quickly Benjamin Yahu did

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Speaker 15: step in and say I am to take steps to

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Speaker 6: But Michael, you were commenting on this a lot online

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Speaker 6: as well.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Michael, what would you take?

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Speaker 3: So this was an egregious mistake by the Israeli government

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Speaker 3: in the thing itself, because the Latin Patriarch of Jerusalem

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Speaker 3: should not, under any circumstances whatsoever, be prevented from going

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Speaker 3: to the Church of the Holy Sepulcher, much less on

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Speaker 3: Palm Sunday, during which time we commemorate Christ's entry into

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Speaker 3: Jerusalem as a king, you know, feted with palms, and

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Speaker 3: it starts off Holy Week. So in the thing itself

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Speaker 3: it was wrong. Israel had no right to do it.

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Speaker 3: But just from a pr perspective, it was a huge mistake,

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Speaker 3: And there is a silver lining here. I've been telling

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Speaker 3: people for weeks now things get a little wacky during Lent.

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Speaker 3: This is just my experience. I think if you have

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Speaker 3: eyes of faith, you might have seen it yourself. People

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Speaker 3: we're crazy.

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Speaker 1: For saying that.

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Speaker 3: But something about Lent, especially someone about Holy Week, things

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Speaker 3: get a little tough, I don't know, like the definition.

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Speaker 1: Into full moon or something. Yeah, exactly, Yes, yes, it

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Speaker 1: is it is.

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Speaker 3: And so there's a silver lining though to this really

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Speaker 3: unfortunate incident yesterday, which is there was a global outcry

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Speaker 3: and everybody seemed to agree, Protestants, Catholics, eventually the Israeli government.

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Speaker 3: You had Mike Huckabee come out, the US Ambassador to Israel,

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Speaker 3: who is as pro Israel as any person ever has

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Speaker 3: been since Theodore Hertzel, and he came out and he said, hey,

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Speaker 3: this was a mistake.

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Speaker 1: Guys. They really shouldn't have done this.

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Speaker 3: A Senator Cruz, a good friend of mine, very very

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Speaker 3: Southern Baptist, very very pro Israel. He says he's the

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Speaker 3: Huckeby's totally right. Israel really bungled this one can't do it.

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Speaker 3: So you got the Catholic Church, the Southern Baptists, Evangelicals,

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Speaker 3: You've got. Then Isaa Kurtzog and Benjamin Nyahu came out

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Speaker 3: and said, hey, this was a huge mistake.

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Speaker 1: This is on us. We're not going to do it.

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Speaker 3: Where we talked to Pizza Bala, he's going to be

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Speaker 3: allowed to say these private prayers and you know, smaller events, celebrations,

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Speaker 3: not two hundred people masses, but we want to make

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Speaker 3: sure that there's a presence of the Holy Sepulcher during

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Speaker 3: Holy Week.

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Speaker 1: So it all worked out.

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Speaker 3: And the thing that I noticed on top of all

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Speaker 3: of it is this really showed you. The bought accounts

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Speaker 3: on social media, some of the operative accounts, I mean,

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Speaker 3: people were making all sorts of disgusting claims about Cardinal

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Speaker 3: Pizza Bala.

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Speaker 1: This is a great man.

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Speaker 3: This is a man who during the gaz of War

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Speaker 3: he offered himself to Hamas in exchange for the Israeli hostages.

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Speaker 3: He's just a wonderful man of the church. And so

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Speaker 3: the people who were going after him still and defending

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Speaker 3: keeping him out of the Holy Sepulcher, I said, hold on,

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Speaker 3: when you have Netan Yahoo, the Catholic Church and the

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Speaker 3: Protestants all on the same team, and you're on the

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Speaker 3: other team, I think you're the problem. Okay, I think

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Speaker 3: I think we know which side to be.

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Speaker 14: It was it was like cats and dogs living together.

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Speaker 14: This was there was this amazing breakthrough on social media

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Speaker 14: over the weekend. It was like it was like a

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Speaker 14: ray of light came down and we got to got

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Speaker 14: on the same page.

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Speaker 1: On Palm Sunday, which is ironic. I actually didn't make

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Speaker 1: this connection.

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Speaker 14: I'm sure everybody on x already did you know days ago,

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Speaker 14: but this.

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Speaker 6: Whole like no King's rally.

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Speaker 14: Meanwhile in Jerusalem Palm Sunday celebrating literally the arrival, the

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Speaker 14: triumphant arrival of Christ, our King, to the city of Jerusalem.

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Speaker 1: It is iron you know.

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Speaker 3: I'm going to confess my ignorance or my lack of

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Speaker 3: thought on this. That's the first time that occurred to me.

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Speaker 3: I I'm hearing it for the first time. And that's

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Speaker 3: a that's an amazing connection. Because the thing is, if

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Speaker 3: you're if you're a person of faith, you especially if

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Speaker 3: you're Christian. Christianity has a very very symbolic view of

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Speaker 3: the world, like everything makes sense, there's no there are

711
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Speaker 3: no mere coincidences. And if you think that God is real,

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Speaker 3: then like stuff is playing out in history beyond our

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Speaker 3: own actions and our own imaginations. And so the Libs

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Speaker 3: who did their stupid no Kings protests this weekend with

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Speaker 3: Herono accidentally admitting that Trump is not a king and

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Speaker 3: never will be.

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Speaker 1: Anyway, that's a point for another time.

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Speaker 3: When they were doing that, I'm sure they didn't realize

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Speaker 3: the symbolism of it all. But the symbolism is there nonetheless.

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Speaker 3: I mean, frankly, there is even symbolism to the Latin

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Speaker 3: Patriarch of Jerusalem being denied entry into the Holy Sepulcher,

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Speaker 3: whether people intended it or not, but really probably they

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Speaker 3: did not.

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Speaker 1: There is a real symbol here.

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Speaker 3: And for the Libs to just say no kings, no

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Speaker 3: kings on.

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Speaker 14: Palm Sunday weekend where where we are literally they're holding

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Speaker 14: their protests, and two thousand years ago there was a

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Speaker 14: whole leather gathering where they were declaring we do have

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Speaker 14: a king. It really is a dramatic juxtaposition. And I

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Speaker 14: mean that's what happens when you purge God from your

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Speaker 14: political ideology. You don't catch the obvious. But apparently you

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Speaker 14: didn't either, Michael, So we can talk.

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Speaker 3: Yea, and I miss the obvious. I need you to

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Speaker 3: tell that's amazing observation.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, it's I just realized that we do have a king.

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Speaker 14: His name is Jesus, and he's still alive and reigning

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Speaker 14: over us today.

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Speaker 1: And that's a beautiful thing.

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Speaker 14: And I and I do agree with you though that

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Speaker 14: when you see and I really that was the spirit

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Speaker 14: actually of inviting you on the show, was this ecumenical

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Speaker 14: Like I just felt I've just been feeling in the ether, Michael,

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Speaker 14: like a little bit of like tension between the Prots

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Speaker 14: and the Catholics, and it's like.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, about five hundred years.

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Speaker 14: But it felt like, you know, in recent years, we've

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Speaker 14: kind of put most of that stuff behind.

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Speaker 1: I mean I as a cradle Catholic, I mean, Blake disagrees.

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Speaker 14: I just think in general we tend to see each

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Speaker 14: other very very much as allies, same team. Yeah we

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Speaker 14: disagree around the edges or we disagree about that, but

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Speaker 14: I want that to be the case, especially somebody who

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Speaker 14: grew up as a cradle Catholic, like I said, went

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Speaker 14: to Catholic high school and things.

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Speaker 6: You know, I got a guy who gets annoyed.

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Speaker 15: I got to know, I get annoyed when these Protestant

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Speaker 15: churches go squish and they like delete the stuff from

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Speaker 15: their statements of faith that the pope is the anti

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Speaker 15: Christ or whatever.

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Speaker 21: Because like, come on, just talk about as right before

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Speaker 21: the right before this interview is talking to Doug Wilson,

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Speaker 21: who I adore because he is like the most hardcore

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Speaker 21: Protestant I've ever met in my life, and I have

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Speaker 21: a lot.

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Speaker 1: Of them in my life. But I do agree with

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Speaker 1: you on this point.

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Speaker 6: Especially.

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Speaker 3: Look, it comes full circle with the devil goes into

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Speaker 3: overtime during Lent and Holy Week. The devil really loves

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Speaker 3: to stoke division. And you've you've seen this. You've seen

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Speaker 3: this politically within the administration, trying to stoke division in

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Speaker 3: this really unified admin and then you certainly see it

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Speaker 3: among Americans of other types and especially people of faith.

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Speaker 3: Is you think, hey, guys, the left wants to harm us.

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Speaker 3: The left wants to slaughter babies and redefine marriage and

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Speaker 3: extra pay Christianity from public life. And while I would

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Speaker 3: love to get into the Thirty Years War, well, I

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Speaker 3: would love to discuss all of the nuances of Luther

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Speaker 3: versus Zwingli versus Calvin versus the One Holy Catholic and

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Speaker 3: Apstolic faith.

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Speaker 1: Like that's cool, guys, we'll do that.

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Speaker 3: But to suggest that we should be spending all of

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Speaker 3: our times relitigating like fifteen seventeen when there is an

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Speaker 3: actual imminent political problem that is threatening all Christians is

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Speaker 3: to me a little, I don't know, a little misguided.

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Speaker 3: I don't think of politics as debate club. I think

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Speaker 3: of it as real political communities where people have to

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Speaker 3: live together and hopefully flourish. And I think we got

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Speaker 3: to get real sometimes. So I totally agree.

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Speaker 14: Well, if we can't build a coalition between Protestants and

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Speaker 14: Catholics in America than we have and listen, there's gonna

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Speaker 14: be disagreements. There's gonna be disagreements on theological stuff.

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Speaker 1: That's fine.

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Speaker 14: But you are definitely an ally and I want to

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Speaker 14: All right, welcome back more with Michael Knowles here. So, Michael,

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Speaker 14: we've been having a really wonderful conversation and Blake wants

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Speaker 14: to completely throw a wrench in it perfect.

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Speaker 1: I was waiting, Yeah, well.

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Speaker 15: So I think you know, we obviously touched upon the

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Speaker 15: drama around the Church of the Holy Sepulcher, but I

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Speaker 15: think all of us understand this is part of a

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Speaker 15: bigger debate about Israel America's relationship towards it, and we

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Speaker 15: see a lot of surging skepticism or outright hostility anti

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Speaker 15: Semitism for the last So, I was wondering, do you

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Speaker 15: have anything if you've been following this in addition to

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Speaker 15: the scuffle over the Holy Sepulcher, there's also been claims

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Speaker 15: about the last Christian settlement in the All Christian settlement

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Speaker 15: in the West Bank has claimed it's getting attacked a

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Speaker 15: lot by Israeli settlers.

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Speaker 6: There's a lot of constant violence there. There's also.

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Speaker 15: Reports of kind of the last Christians in Syria getting

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Speaker 15: wiped out as a result of the government there. And

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Speaker 15: I guess if you've been following either of those things,

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Speaker 15: if you have thoughts on them and how they relate

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Speaker 15: to America's alliances and relationships in the Holy Land.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, certainly, you know, I do care particularly about persecuted

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Speaker 3: Christians in the Middle East. My friend father Benedict A Kihlely,

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Speaker 3: has a group called Nazarreen dot Org, which I strongly

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Speaker 3: recommend people's support. It helps persecuted Christians in the Middle

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Speaker 3: East and elsewhere, but there are very few. You know,

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Speaker 3: these are the oldest Christian communities in the world, and

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Speaker 3: it's kind of funny when missionaries from America or Europe

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Speaker 3: say we're going to go and evangelize in the Middle East.

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Speaker 3: So you know, they were the first ones they evangelized,

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Speaker 3: you believe it or not. And so they've been decimated

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Speaker 3: over the last twenty five years. You see this even

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Speaker 3: outside of the Middle East.

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Speaker 1: With Armenia.

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Speaker 3: You know, the Azerbaijan was unfortunately kind of won the

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Speaker 3: war with Armenia destroyed. Armenia is the oldest Christian nation

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Speaker 3: in the world. It became Christian before even the Edict

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Speaker 3: of Milan, before Emperor Constantine, and they've been really put

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Speaker 3: on the back foot as well. And it's ironic there

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Speaker 3: because in the case of Azerbaijan and Armenia, and this

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Speaker 3: kind of brings it back to the Israel issue. Israel

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Speaker 3: was backing Azerbaijan, which is a Muslim country, against Armenia,

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Speaker 3: which is a Christian country.

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Speaker 1: But it's because Armenia had better relations.

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Speaker 3: With Iran, which is a Muslim country, and I ran

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Speaker 3: as the existential threat to Israel. So bizarrely, the United States,

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Speaker 3: which has a good relationship with Armenia, was funding the

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Speaker 3: weapons that were going to Azerbaijan. And it becomes a

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Speaker 3: real mess. So how do we make sense of these things? Well,

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Speaker 3: right off the bat, I would say, obviously one can

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Speaker 3: criticize the Israeli government and should in some cases, one

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Speaker 3: should be skeptical of entangling alliances broadly, but I would

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Speaker 3: just caution people, I would not allow your skepticism of

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Speaker 3: or even antipathy for Israel to push you into the

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Speaker 3: position of being pro Islam. You know, the Christians in

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Speaker 3: the Middle East and elsewhere who are persecuted are persecuted

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Speaker 3: by Muslims. We saw on Palm Sunday and Nigeria at

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Speaker 3: least ten Christians massacred by Muslims in Nigeria and the

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Speaker 3: Plateau region just adds to the number, you know, which

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Speaker 3: has grown immensely in recent years.

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Speaker 1: So it's a major problem.

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Speaker 3: And I think that sort of ideological or shallow responses

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Speaker 3: to these issues in the Middle East really missed the point.

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Speaker 3: You know, this is a long standing problem. Is Lom

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Speaker 3: has been a long standing problem for fourteen hundred years.

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Speaker 3: The question of sovereignty in the Holy Land has been

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Speaker 3: disputed for roughly two thousand years right now.

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Speaker 1: And so a little skepticism I think is merited.

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Speaker 3: It's just it has to be done with some balance

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Speaker 3: and with some prudence and with some charity.

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Speaker 1: To look at Twitter, to look at some podcasts, you

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Speaker 1: would think that we've just we've been in.

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Speaker 3: A quagmire in the Middle East for two thousand years

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Speaker 3: because someone didn't read, you know, the pseudonymous Twitter accounts post.

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Speaker 3: If only we had the tweeter we could have solved

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Speaker 3: at all. No, these are immensely complex problems that are

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Speaker 3: not only religious but also political.

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Speaker 14: It is well said, yea, I just want to I

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Speaker 14: want to give Knowls some credit that we did not

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Speaker 14: prep him for that.

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Speaker 6: We did not and I threw him to the wolves.

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Speaker 1: Yeah one, and you navigated it definitely. I think that

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Speaker 1: the you know, you deserve some credit for that. I

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Speaker 1: was like, here we go, here we go.

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Speaker 3: The problem though, is because I didn't just like throw

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Speaker 3: a grenade at you know, this country or that country

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Speaker 3: or whatever.

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to get as many clicks.

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Speaker 3: My answer it was to a country to which country?

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Speaker 1: Name names? Yeah, do you tell me the country? Which

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Speaker 1: one is? Listen? I think that's great.

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Speaker 14: All right, so we started the show off and we'll

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Speaker 14: give you one last hard one here. So does it

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Speaker 14: does appear that President Trump that Trump administration are positioning

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Speaker 14: assets in the Middle East for a potential boots on

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Speaker 14: the ground situation. We don't know yet if this is

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Speaker 14: saber rattling. We don't know if this is to strengthen

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Speaker 14: a negotiating hand. To you know, I listen, if you

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Speaker 14: doubt President Trump's will to do military strike of any nature,

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Speaker 14: you shouldn't. And I think he understands that he has

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Speaker 14: that card to play, So he's moving the assets in.

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Speaker 1: What do you.

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Speaker 14: Expect to transpire in the next coming weeks? And if

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Speaker 14: he does use boots on the ground, what do you

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Speaker 14: think the political ramifications would be.

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Speaker 3: The political ramifications will be very, very tough. And the

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Speaker 3: reason that I think some people don't understand that is

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Speaker 3: because the war itself, for the strikes themselves, whether you

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Speaker 3: want to admit it's a war or just call them

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Speaker 3: isolated strikes, regardless, it has a lot of support among

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Speaker 3: conservative Republicans ninety percent support about but I think that

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Speaker 3: support is soft. I think people recognize Iran has been

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Speaker 3: a threat for.

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Speaker 1: A long time.

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Speaker 3: There is a grand strategic interest in getting rid of

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Speaker 3: the Iranian regime. Trump has been talking about this for

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Speaker 3: forty years, So yeah, they've been a thorn on our

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Speaker 3: side for fifty years. That's all true. But I think

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Speaker 3: that ninety percent support is soft. I think people have

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Speaker 3: trauma from the political experience of the Iraq and Afghanistan wars.

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Speaker 1: I think it could collapse very quickly.

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Speaker 3: However, and this was one of the arguments for more

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Speaker 3: restraint in Iran, is that the die is cast.

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Speaker 1: We are where we are.

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Speaker 3: We cannot let the Iranians get away with closing the

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Speaker 3: straight of horror moves. If we let them get away

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Speaker 3: with that now, we will have only strengthened the Iranian regime.

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Speaker 3: I don't care how many missiles we took at I

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Speaker 3: don't care how many Hyatolas we killed.

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Speaker 1: That will have strengthened them tremendously.

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Speaker 3: The next time we have any disagreement with them, they're

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Speaker 3: going to close that straight and they're going to feel

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Speaker 3: confident that we're not really going to do anything about it.

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Speaker 1: So I am a Trump truster.

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Speaker 3: He's got a better record on foreign policy than any

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Speaker 3: president in my lifetime. And what I've said since the

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Speaker 3: beginning of this war is I would have argued against it,

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Speaker 3: and I did argue against it. But Trump says five weeks,

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Speaker 3: I'll start worrying on week six. The issue right now,

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Speaker 3: I think for the polling and for the administration is okay,

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Speaker 3: we're at the start of week five. If that means

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Speaker 3: we're entering into week six. Trump says we're close to

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Speaker 3: a deal in the coming weeks. But I think you

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Speaker 3: could see that ninety percent support start to creator pretty quickly.

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Speaker 1: Am I am I a Panican? Am I being a Panican?

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Speaker 14: Nope, now that's about where we started the show today.

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Speaker 14: I mean, listen, my position is I don't want boots

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Speaker 14: on the ground, but I'm with you that what you said,

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Speaker 14: the die is cast, like this operation is under underway.

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Speaker 14: You cannot let that straight up horn moose get closed.

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Speaker 14: And this is why we were reticent in the first place,

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Speaker 14: because war has a tendency of getting out of.

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Speaker 6: Hors are unpredictable. They're easier to start than to end.

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Speaker 15: They are they just they rarely, they're expensive, and they're

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Speaker 15: just they're rarely. They rarely give you the outcome that

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Speaker 15: you're promised is the most likely one when you start.

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Speaker 14: Well and listen, when you look at some of this stuff.

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Speaker 14: You know, there's that video going viral online of the

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Speaker 14: No Kings in LA and they're saying, you know, shoot

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Speaker 14: Ice agents. It's like, well, there's a lot of enemy

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Speaker 14: combatants here that I wish we would have spent two

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Speaker 14: hundred billion dollars addressing.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, yeah, anyways, but even just the focus of it.

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Speaker 14: Exactly, and so there's there's a lot of reason to

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Speaker 14: feel that kind of not in your stomach. We're praying

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Speaker 14: for true our troops, we're praying for success, and we're

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Speaker 14: praying for you.

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Speaker 1: Michael, God bless you. Thank you, gentlemen. All Right, our

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Speaker 1: two in just a few minutes, when we're at that.

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Speaker 19: Terrence Bates here with your rim America's Voice Newsbreak. We

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Speaker 19: appreciate you being here with us. We have an eye

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Speaker 19: on the White House as the latest press briefing is

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Speaker 19: set to get underway at any moment. Now here's a

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Speaker 19: live look at the room as journalists are taking their

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Speaker 19: seats and preparing to hear from White House Press Secretary

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Speaker 19: Caroline Levitt. You can imagine that much of the conversation

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Speaker 19: is going to have to do with the war in

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Speaker 19: Iran and the ground troops that have already been deployed

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Speaker 19: to that region. We of course, will take you to

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Speaker 19: this White House Press briefing live the moment it happens.

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Speaker 19: In the meantime, the world's decreasing oil supply due to

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Speaker 19: Iran limiting maritime traffic through the strait of horror moves

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Speaker 19: is forcing some difficult decisions for heads of state. President Trump,

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Speaker 19: for instance, says he is considering seizing Iran's carg Island

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Speaker 19: oil terminal. Despite reported progress in a cease fire negotiation

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Speaker 19: with Iran, President Trump appears prepared to put US boots

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Speaker 19: on the ground if needed. Meantime, Pakistan says it will

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Speaker 19: host talks between Terry Ron and Washington soon. Iran's parliament

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Speaker 19: Liz Speaker, however, dismissing the talks and instead focusing on

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Speaker 19: the US military build up in the region, saying quote,

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Speaker 19: waiting for the arrival of American troops on the ground

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Speaker 19: to set them on fire and punish their regional partners forever.

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Speaker 19: NASA is in the final stages of preparation for an

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Speaker 19: historic return to the Moon. The Artemis two mission is

1014
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Speaker 19: now just days away from launch. Teams at the Kennedy

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Speaker 19: Space Center are moving into final countdown operations, with liftoff

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Speaker 19: targeted for as soon as April first, in conditions looking

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Speaker 19: promising for an April first launch, The mission will send

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Speaker 19: four astronauts around the Moon and back, marking the first

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Speaker 19: crewed lunar flight in more than a half century. It's

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Speaker 19: a major step towards long term human exploration.

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Speaker 1: Of deep space.

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Speaker 19: NASA officials say this flight will test critical systems and

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Speaker 19: lay the groundwork for future missions that would include eventual

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Speaker 19: plans to return astronauts to the lunar surface. President Trump's

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Speaker 19: day at the White House includes taking pictures with his

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Speaker 19: year with this year's class of White House interns. Forty

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Speaker 19: seven will also participate in the policy meeting and take

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Speaker 19: time this afternoon to sign legislation. In the meantime, the

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Speaker 19: Commander in Construction, as I call him, says the planned

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Speaker 19: White House Ballroom is ahead of schedule and under budget.

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Speaker 19: His assessment of the project comes as a lawsuit seeking

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Speaker 19: to stop the project moves forward. A board Air Force

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Speaker 19: one on Sunday, the President showing off renderings of the

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Speaker 19: new ballroom.

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Speaker 20: Now, the military is building the big complex under the ballroom,

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Speaker 20: which has come recently because of a stupid lawsuit.

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Speaker 5: Douglas file.

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Speaker 20: What the military's building game massive complex under the ballroom.

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Speaker 20: And that's under construction, and we're doing very well.

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Speaker 19: And while the President is showing off what the new

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Speaker 19: White House Ballroom will look like, he's also waiting for

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Speaker 19: Congress and the Senate to agree on funding the Department

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Speaker 19: of Homeland Security so that TSA agents can get their paychecks.

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Speaker 19: The DHS shutdown is now the longest partial government shutdown

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Speaker 19: in US history. The department is the fourth largest agency

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Speaker 19: in the federal government, and it makes up just under

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Speaker 19: ten percent of the government's total workforce. The US House

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Speaker 19: has passed the stop gap DHS funding bill after House

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Speaker 19: Republicans rejected a bill that's from the Senate that would

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Speaker 19: have reopened the agency. DHS says more than five hundred

1051
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Speaker 19: TSA agents have now quit their jobs due to the shutdown.

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Speaker 19: Thousands more have called out for work again. We are

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Speaker 19: waiting for White House Press Secretary Caroline Levitt to arrive

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Speaker 19: for the latest White House Press briefing. It was set

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Speaker 19: to start at the top of the hour. We're expecting

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Speaker 19: that she will arrive here any moment now. Journalists already

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Speaker 19: in place waiting for that briefing to happen. As you

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Speaker 19: can imagine, the issue of Iran is likely going to

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Speaker 19: take center stage, as many of the questions will have.

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Speaker 6: To do with that.

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Speaker 19: There will also likely be lots of questions about the

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Speaker 19: Department of Homeland Security and funding for that agency. As

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Speaker 19: it is now shut down for well over forty days,

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Speaker 19: again the longest government shut down in US history. On Friday,

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Speaker 19: you may remember, President Trump signed an executive order authorizing

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Speaker 19: payment for TSA agents who have been working for well

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Speaker 19: over six weeks with no pay.

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Speaker 6: Also, the House has passed.

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Speaker 19: A stopgap measure that would also send funding to those

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Speaker 19: TSA workers in lieu of the Senate's bill, which of

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Speaker 19: course did not pass in the US House. So we'll

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Speaker 19: be covering all of that for you throughout the day

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Speaker 19: and will take you live here or to the White

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Speaker 19: House Press briefing the moment it starts.

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Speaker 14: All right, welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show. Welcoming

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Speaker 14: now to the show. Our three TPOSA Frontlines journalists. We've

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Speaker 14: got bo al Ford Frontlines TPOSA Reporter, We've got Gabe

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Speaker 14: vikt al Frontlines Phroto journalists, and then we have Roe

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Speaker 14: Ortisa New Edition Frontline TPOSA Photo Journalists.

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Speaker 1: I believe she's in DC. Hello everybody, Hello, good to

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Speaker 1: see us.

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Speaker 14: So you guys were all active covering the Geriatrix against

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Speaker 14: Kingship event, holding signs by a billionaire that lives in Shanghai.

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Speaker 14: Tell us about what you saw. Why don't we just

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Speaker 14: start with you, Bo. Where were you stationed? What did

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Speaker 14: you see? What was the vibes?

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Speaker 4: Yes, sir, we were in New York City.

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Speaker 22: I'd like to start by saying it it feels great

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Speaker 22: knowing that we did our due diligence and making sure

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Speaker 22: there are no kings in America.

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Speaker 4: No, we were in New York.

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Speaker 22: There was a pretty good sized turnout, but there the

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Speaker 22: people there couldn't answer some of the more basic questions

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Speaker 22: I had to ask them, which we can get that.

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Speaker 1: Get to that in a little bit.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, I was in New York City.

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Speaker 1: And Gabe, you were also in New York Is that right?

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I was in New York along with Bo.

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Speaker 23: And you know, to to mention the amount of people,

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Speaker 23: there was a lot. I mean there was about probably

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Speaker 23: three hundred thousand people. That's how many people are svped

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Speaker 23: for it or signed up online. And you know, I've

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Speaker 23: normally gone to these events and they say that there's

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Speaker 23: a lot more coming than there actually is.

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Speaker 1: But for this New York it was a huge turnout.

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Speaker 1: Well that's interesting to see.

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Speaker 14: I mean three hundred thousand for New York though, I

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Speaker 14: mean I mean it's like, what, what is the population

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Speaker 14: New York eight million?

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know, all right, fine, it was a

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Speaker 1: lot of the New York patriots. Yeah, exactly, this is true.

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Speaker 23: There was actually a lot of people who did mention

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Speaker 23: that they did come from out of state.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I bet that's true.

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Speaker 20: Row.

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Speaker 1: Where were you covering and what did you see? What

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Speaker 1: were the vibes? I was in Washington, d C. There

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Speaker 1: were It was a good turnout.

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Speaker 16: There were lots of people, a couple of thousand, definitely,

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Speaker 16: it was mostly old white boomers. I barely saw people

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Speaker 16: of color. It was pretty tame compared to the protests

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Speaker 16: you saw in la or in Portland where they're spray painting,

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Speaker 16: kill your local ice agent.

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Speaker 1: It was very chill and tame.

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Speaker 14: Well, well, that's that's a very interesting observation you just made.

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Speaker 14: And it reminded me of a clip we have ready

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Speaker 14: Sat twenty three.

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Speaker 15: It seems like there's a lack of here today that

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Speaker 15: it's mostly people who look like you and I and I.

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Speaker 9: Know this is not it is not for black people

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Speaker 9: for people of color to be to get out on

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Speaker 9: the street there at risk when they do that. If

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Speaker 9: anybody's going to get arrested here, it's going to be

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Speaker 9: a black person. It is not safe for them, and

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Speaker 9: they don't need to participate. We need to walk in

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Speaker 9: their name.

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Speaker 14: So did you guys get the vibe that if a

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Speaker 14: black person would have showed up at one of these

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Speaker 14: rallies that they would have got arrested.

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Speaker 1: I'm just curious.

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Speaker 6: Absolutely not.

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Speaker 23: Yeah, no, not unless they were committing a cry.

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Speaker 16: You know, I love that wide savior complex.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, this is I mean, it really was.

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Speaker 14: It was Robert de Niro, it was Bruce Springsteen, it

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Speaker 14: was Amy klobucharg One.

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Speaker 15: I think there was some sort of there was like

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Speaker 15: a musical rally that. Yeah, it was like Bruce Springsteen.

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Speaker 15: Bernie said it was something we're like the youngest person there,

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Speaker 15: Jane Fonda, Like the youngest person out on the stage

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Speaker 15: was like seventy eight years old. Another thing I saw

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Speaker 15: they mentioned this, actually the Bulwark posted this. They were

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Speaker 15: pointing out turnout in the villages, you know, a very

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Speaker 15: Florida heavy part of Florida. They were saying it was

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Speaker 15: double the turnout of last year. And there's video of

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Speaker 15: you know, them racing by all this turnout and Okay, yeah,

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Speaker 15: I guess turnout is turnout, but it does strike me

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00:56:17,000 --> 00:56:20,879
Speaker 15: that really this sort of mass protest, it's a lot

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Speaker 15: of people who wish they were still protesting the Vietnam War.

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Speaker 15: It's very old lib boomers basically, which there's a lot

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Speaker 15: of great boomers out there too, but this is a

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Speaker 15: subtype and.

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Speaker 1: Maybe New York was different.

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Speaker 14: So Rose saying it was old boomers in DC, what

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Speaker 14: about in New York?

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Speaker 1: I mean New York's younger city.

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Speaker 14: There's a lot of people, young people that flocked to

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Speaker 14: York to, you know, try and start a life, and

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Speaker 14: they're excited by the city, and a lot of people

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Speaker 14: from out of town. Did you see a more diverse

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Speaker 14: group there, bo or Gabe?

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Speaker 4: Not necessarily.

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Speaker 22: I would say it was slightly more diverse, But it

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Speaker 22: is important to note that I was assaulted twice, and

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Speaker 22: both times I was assaulted was by old white men.

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Speaker 22: There were a few people that were diverse, but for

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Speaker 22: the most part, it was old white people that felt

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Speaker 22: like it was their need to speak up for minorities.

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Speaker 23: Yeah, I would say that it was very middle aged,

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Speaker 23: like older, millennial, younger gen X kind of people that

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Speaker 23: were at this protest for sure.

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Speaker 1: So, which is interesting.

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Speaker 14: You know, it's seventy five percent of liberal students say

1185
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Speaker 14: preventing a speaker from talking is justified. Twenty seven percent

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Speaker 14: say violence is acceptable to stop your political I guess enemies.

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Speaker 14: Obviously we all lived through the assassination of our friend Charlie.

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Speaker 1: And you know, you see that conservatives show up on campuses.

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Speaker 14: They get spat at, they get blocked, they get harassed.

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Speaker 14: You got assaulted, bo. I didn't know that. That's the

1191
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Speaker 14: first time hearing about this. What like when you're talking

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Speaker 14: to people on the on the streets, like, what is

1193
00:57:59,280 --> 00:58:02,680
Speaker 14: the animal? What is their motivating factor? Why are they

1194
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Speaker 14: crossing these lines that have been sacricyncd in American political culture?

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Speaker 14: Why is this happening right now? Do you get can

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Speaker 14: you get any conclusion?

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Speaker 22: Yeah, great question, I can tell you, especially the first

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Speaker 22: time that I was assaulted, which the video is coming.

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Speaker 4: Out here soon. He didn't know the answer.

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Speaker 22: I asked a very basic question, and then people started

1201
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Speaker 22: stepping in trying to get the subject changed when he

1202
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Speaker 22: couldn't get that answer, and one person took it upon himself.

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Speaker 22: He was an older white man walking when I kept

1204
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Speaker 22: pressing him when he didn't know the answer, and another

1205
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Speaker 22: man stepped in and decided to knock the mic out

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Speaker 22: of my hand, and then another person later on in

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Speaker 22: the day proceeded to try and knock my beanie off.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, Gabe, I'm sorry that happened to you. Bo Gabe,

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Speaker 14: you were probably right there with him.

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Speaker 1: Right, what was.

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Speaker 6: You know?

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Speaker 23: Like these people, the reason that they get so violent,

1213
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Speaker 23: at least in my opinion, is over and over again,

1214
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Speaker 23: they're told that conservatives or that right wingers, that even

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Speaker 23: just journalists in general are Nazis, that they're violent. And

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Speaker 23: you know, if you were to think that our grandparents

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Speaker 23: or grandparents of great grandparents of many other people, they

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Speaker 23: went out and they fought Nazis on the front lines.

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Speaker 23: So they think that in their mind it is justified

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Speaker 23: to attack us, to hurt us, because they truly believe

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Speaker 23: deep down that we are all these evil, authoritarian Nazi types.

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Speaker 14: Ro you seem, you know, very sweet, not like bo

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Speaker 14: or Gabe. Did you get accosted at all at one

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Speaker 14: of these by any of these protesters.

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Speaker 5: I didn't.

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Speaker 16: I blended in very well, though, but I knew if

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Speaker 16: I know that if they knew my stance on things,

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Speaker 16: they would not be nice to me at all, and honestly,

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Speaker 16: it's just very unfortunate. I feel that they have tumble

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Speaker 16: vision when it comes to these issues, and it's reinforced

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Speaker 16: by the media. I mean, you saw the protests. There

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Speaker 16: was the one I went to in DC. There was

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Speaker 16: a correspondent from MS NOW and he had an f

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Speaker 1: Reported on the news.

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Speaker 16: Yeah, yeah, and so they see that and they it

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Speaker 16: just reinforces this mindset that they have, and it's just

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Speaker 16: very unfortunate that they treat other people with such disrespect.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 14: And did you get any insight when you ask them

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Speaker 14: questions of what they were protesting? I mean they obviously

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Speaker 1: Did you get any insight?

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Speaker 16: Yeah, I mean it was funny. So they were chanting

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Speaker 16: this is what democracy looks like as they're advocating for

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Speaker 16: the removal of a democratically elected leader.

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Speaker 1: I mean that is just so ironic.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, they're celebrating their their democrats freedoms and their God

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Speaker 14: All right, Roe, you were in DC. You were talking

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Speaker 14: all these geriatric boomers and they what kind of questions

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Speaker 14: did you ask them?

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Speaker 1: And did you find anything out? Did you learn anything?

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Speaker 16: Well, I wasn't asking them questions. I was just taking videos,

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Speaker 16: but I was paying attention to their signs, and one

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Speaker 16: sign that really stuck out to me was Hitler would

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Speaker 16: they want to remove him.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, bo you were asking questions, what did what questions

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Speaker 1: If anything?

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Speaker 22: Learned?

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Speaker 4: Absolutely nothing.

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Speaker 22: Questions I asked were very simple, what brought you out here?

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Speaker 22: What is the main reason you were out here. What

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Speaker 22: is the biggest issue that you care about that brings

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Speaker 22: you out here? And then I was also asking about

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Speaker 22: conservatives and trying to see what their thoughts were on

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Speaker 22: conservatives in general. So I was asking, what are your

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Speaker 22: thoughts on conservatives? Is there anything you agree with conservatives on?

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Speaker 22: What is your message to conservatives? And their answers were

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Speaker 22: always very extreme, a few of them of which were

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Speaker 22: actually wishing death upon conservatives.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, I mean, I'm really interesting interested in knowing if

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Speaker 14: these people understand the origins or the people that are

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Speaker 14: funding these networks that put on the note kings rallies.

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Speaker 14: For example, Roy Singham, somebody that we've brought up on

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Speaker 14: this show number of times. He's a billionaire in Shanghai.

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Speaker 14: He attends CCP workshops, he funnels millions of dollars through

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Speaker 14: show companies through the United States, and three congressional committees

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Speaker 14: have subpoened him as a subject of investigation for being

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Speaker 14: a CCP foreign agent. So this is one of the

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Speaker 14: guys funding this so again communist country, probably a CCP

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Speaker 14: foreign agent, funneling millions of dollars for signs for these

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Speaker 14: people to carry out what.

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Speaker 6: You've heard of code pink. I remember Code pink all

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Speaker 6: the way back in the Bush years, and.

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Speaker 1: Well that's under of them.

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Speaker 14: That's a funny thing to bring up, actually, because if

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Speaker 14: you look at like nineteen nineties Democrat Party, they were

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Speaker 14: anti illegal immigration, they were pro parents, they were pro

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Speaker 14: balanced budget, they were pro borders, they were pro free speech.

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Speaker 14: They're basically like Bill Clinton is essentially from the nineteen

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Speaker 14: ninety is not dissimilar to the Conservative platform in many

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Speaker 14: ways in twenty twenty six. I mean, but they didn't

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Speaker 14: have a problem then. Did they call Bill Clinton a king?

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Speaker 14: I don't think they did. But I don't know if

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Speaker 14: there's if there's anything else really to surmise other than that,

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Speaker 14: it's just really just an anti Trump rally that is

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Speaker 14: spread across the country, and I believe it's a it's

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Speaker 14: a they're trying to spark a color revolution. This is

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Speaker 14: why you hear them talk about we need we just

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Speaker 14: need three point five percent of the population in order

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Speaker 14: to spark a color revolution.

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Speaker 1: That's what they really want.

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Speaker 14: Anyways, I don't think they got anywhere close to that

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Speaker 14: this weekend, But nevertheless, it was pretty hilarious. Gabe and

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Speaker 14: Bo last time we had you guys on you were

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Speaker 14: dodging IEDs in New York City from a terrorist. You

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Speaker 14: were at the Gracie mansion. I don't know, a terrorist incident.

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Speaker 14: Have you guys had a chance to reflect on what

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Speaker 14: I mean, you really were close to potentially putting your

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Speaker 14: lives at line.

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Speaker 1: Have you had a chance to reflect on that incident anymore?

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Speaker 1: Have you heard any updates about that.

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Speaker 23: Reflection? One hundred percent. We were praying very hard before

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Speaker 23: going to New York again because you know this this

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Speaker 23: past weekend, it's definitely something that could have happened.

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Speaker 17: Right.

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Speaker 23: These radicals, they typically don't show up to these mass

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Speaker 23: events where there's no over like one hundred thousand people

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Speaker 23: at it, but one hundred percent they could, especially if

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Speaker 23: they're you know, expecting any pushback from right wingers, from conservatives.

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Speaker 23: And I one hundred percent, you know, was praying before

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Speaker 23: h praying that you know, me and BO would be

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Speaker 23: safe and that also the other frontlines reporters would be

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Speaker 23: safe across the country. I know we had people in

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Speaker 23: LA and DC, but yeah, I I I definitely am

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Speaker 23: glad that we got out of it safe, you know

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Speaker 23: the first time, and that this weekend there was no issues.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, Gabe said that. Well, sorry, Gid said that.

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Speaker 22: Well, I was just gonna reflect and say basically what

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01:08:18,840 --> 01:08:22,080
Speaker 22: he said. When I got home, definitely hugged my wife

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Speaker 22: a little bit harder, and then I'm not gonna lie.

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Speaker 22: I think that when we were told that we were

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Speaker 22: going back to New York City for no Kings, it

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Speaker 22: definitely was something in the back of my head, like,

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Speaker 22: you know, the previous history of New York of course,

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Speaker 22: and then also who we have elected as mayor in

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Speaker 22: New York. That's definitely something that's always going to be

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Speaker 22: in the back of your mind. So we definitely prayed

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Speaker 22: a little bit harder and we're thanking God when we

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Speaker 22: were safe.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 14: Wow, that that's the world we live in now. You know,

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Speaker 14: I just hate it. I hate it for all of

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Speaker 14: you guys. I hate it for the country wrote I'm

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Speaker 14: going to give you the final word here. You are

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Speaker 14: new to the TPSA Frontlines team. What is what is

1403
01:09:01,360 --> 01:09:05,160
Speaker 14: your beat? What are you going to be covering? And

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01:09:05,200 --> 01:09:06,200
Speaker 14: how's it going so far?

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Speaker 16: Oh it's going great. I'm really enjoying this position being

1406
01:09:10,280 --> 01:09:13,200
Speaker 16: with all this team has been fantastic. I'm going to

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Speaker 16: be working on a lot of mini docs exploring different

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01:09:17,280 --> 01:09:21,719
Speaker 16: things around America, different issues. At the moment, just heavily

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01:09:21,760 --> 01:09:24,519
Speaker 16: focusing on this administration and the amazing things are doing.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, because we've got a White House correspondent it's about

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01:09:28,720 --> 01:09:29,360
Speaker 14: to have a baby.

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Speaker 1: If I'm not yes, yes, I'm coming for her.

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Speaker 16: She is super pregnant, like I think she's giving birth

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Speaker 16: this week.

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Speaker 1: It's crazy. Yeah.

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Speaker 14: So Monica is our TPOSA Frontlines White House correspondent.

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Speaker 1: She is. She got married not too long ago.

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Speaker 14: Then quickly they're expecting a child and she's about to

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Speaker 14: get birth. So Monica, we are praying for you and

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01:09:50,960 --> 01:09:52,880
Speaker 14: we wish you all the best. In the meantime, Rose

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01:09:53,280 --> 01:09:57,120
Speaker 14: coming in and she's doing great work already. Stay safe

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Speaker 14: out there, guys. Thank you for coming on and telling

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Speaker 14: us your experience. And we're glad you're safe. And the

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Speaker 14: geriatric boomers didn't rough you up too bad. Bo could

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Speaker 14: have been worse.

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Speaker 4: It could have been worse.

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Speaker 1: Take care of us so much. All right, We are

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Speaker 1: going to turn our attention to Iran. Next.

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Speaker 14: We're gonna have Rid Vaughan Ademer, who has been doing

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Speaker 14: his research trying to figure out what the vibe on

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Speaker 14: the streets of Iran is like, right now, don't go anyway.

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Speaker 13: Sacked first, America First, Welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show.

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Speaker 1: All right.

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Speaker 14: One of the real privileges of this show is just

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Speaker 14: getting to work with the folks at Hillsdale. They are

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Speaker 14: America's best and greatest university.

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Speaker 1: Charlie believed that, and we get to work with them

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Speaker 1: all the time.

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Speaker 14: In fact, I think we're going to have a professor

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01:10:59,439 --> 01:11:02,639
Speaker 14: from Hillsdale on this week and working out the timing

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Speaker 14: on that right now. Charlie understood that when you learn,

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Speaker 14: then you can lead, and that's why we love talking

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Speaker 14: about Hillsdale around here. One of the courses that he took,

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Speaker 14: he actually took this, and it's a real college course,

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Speaker 14: is the Genesis Story, taught by Hillsdale professor doctor Justin Jackson.

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01:11:18,400 --> 01:11:21,160
Speaker 14: It's a free online course and explores the relationship between

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01:11:21,200 --> 01:11:24,719
Speaker 14: God and man, what happens when that relationship break breaks down,

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Speaker 14: and the path to reconciliation. It's rigorous, it's thoughtful, it's challenging,

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Speaker 14: but it is accessible to any of you who are

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Speaker 14: willing and ready to learn. You can take the very

1451
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Speaker 14: same course completely free, or you can take dozens of others.

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Speaker 14: There are amazing, amazing productions, really really well done, thoughtful,

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Speaker 14: great professors that teach them. So visit Charlie for Hillsdale

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Speaker 14: dot com to enroll today. That's Charlie for Hillsdale dot

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Speaker 14: com to enroll today. Learn deeply, lead boldly, carry it forward,

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Speaker 14: just like Charlie. All right, I'm excited about our next

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Speaker 14: guest here. This is rid von Ademer. He is also

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Speaker 14: known as the Apostate Prophet. You can check him out

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Speaker 14: on YouTube on x under that handle Apostate Profit.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to the show, my friend.

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Speaker 5: Thank you for having me. I'm very happy to be here.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, we're happy to have you.

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Speaker 14: So for those of you in the audience who are

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Speaker 14: maybe not aware of Ridvan's story, he was born and

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Speaker 14: raised a Muslim and then sort of broke away from

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Speaker 14: the faith and now he's a Christian, which is excellent.

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Speaker 14: But he gives incredible insights about the Muslim mindset and

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Speaker 14: the frame of mind, their ideology and so Ridvan, I

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Speaker 14: tasked you with specific task to go figure out what

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Speaker 14: the vibe is in Iran right now, the people on

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Speaker 14: the ground. I know you have a lot of Iranian

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Speaker 14: friends Persian friends. So what is the vibe in Iran?

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Speaker 14: And ultimately that leads to the next question, are they

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Speaker 14: going to rise up?

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Speaker 24: Okay, well, it's very complicated. I know it's very complicated.

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Speaker 24: I talk too many Iranians. Over the last few days.

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Speaker 24: I have been following the whole situation very closely. Talk

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Speaker 24: to Iranians. I speak to Iranans who live outside of Iran,

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Speaker 24: some that are inside Iran, some that are outside, and

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Speaker 24: communicate with families inside Iran.

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Speaker 5: The situation is very complicated.

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Speaker 24: What people need to understand is that the people of

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Speaker 24: Iran haven't had access to the Internet for I think

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Speaker 24: thirty one days now, so it's been more than a month.

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Speaker 24: The Internet has been entirely and completely shut down by

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Speaker 24: the Islamic Republic, the Islamic regime, with the excuse that

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Speaker 24: you know, they have to tackle misinformation and international global

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Speaker 24: foreign and interference and all that. But shutting down your

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Speaker 24: own people's access to the Internet is of course a

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Speaker 24: very miserable way to treat your own people.

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Speaker 5: And it's clear why this is being done.

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Speaker 24: It's to prevent organizing, to prevent mobilization, to prevent you know,

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Speaker 24: people communicating with each other. So the average Iranian has

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Speaker 24: great difficulties accessing information understanding what's actually going on. Those

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Speaker 24: Iranians that we see, we usually see video recordings, we see,

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Speaker 24: we receive some limited information. The majority of Iranians are

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Speaker 24: going to the latest research of all different sources say

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Speaker 24: that over eighty five to ninety percent of Iranians despise

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Speaker 24: the Islamic Republic that is in charge and want it gone.

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Speaker 24: So they have no good feelings about this government. Many

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Speaker 24: of them look with hope at the current war. I

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Speaker 24: know for some people it seems like it's a little

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Speaker 24: bit puzzling and confusing that they would cheer on the

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Speaker 24: bombing of their own country, But that's not really what's happening.

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Speaker 5: The current US and Israeli.

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Speaker 24: Strikes are vastly carried out on military sides and government facilities, vastly,

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Speaker 24: not exclusively, but vastly. The Iranians really seem to be

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Speaker 24: happy about it and celebrate it. You can see them

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Speaker 24: sharing videos of themselves singing about it and smiling and

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Speaker 24: enjoying it and hoping for the downfall of the Islamic regime.

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Speaker 24: The problem is that the Islamic regime is a is

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Speaker 24: a strongly and firmly embedded regime and authoritarian government that

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Speaker 24: also has its own militia and its own forces. Iran

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Speaker 24: has two separate militaries, the regular national military and then

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Speaker 24: the one that is purely loyal to the Islamic regime.

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Speaker 24: That is an Islamic military, and that military is very

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Speaker 24: vicious and very loyal to the Islamic regime. They have

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Speaker 24: their own special forces to besiege. They have their the IRGC,

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Speaker 24: which is the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps, which is all

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Speaker 24: about protecting Islam in the ambitions of the Islamic Republic.

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Speaker 24: Those people are the problem because as much as the

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Speaker 24: people of Iran are willing to get rid of this region,

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Speaker 24: they are dealing with a very very barbaric, very ruthless,

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Speaker 24: very vicious force that is loyal to the Islamic regime.

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Speaker 24: They might they might, They might make up only less

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Speaker 24: than ten percent. Those who are loyal to the regime

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Speaker 24: might only make up less than ten percent of the population,

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Speaker 24: but they have very strong, organized military and police forces

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Speaker 24: that protect them and that have no issues shooting down

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Speaker 24: civilians in masses in the thousands if they mobilize, which

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Speaker 24: is why we have not seen much of an uprising,

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Speaker 24: and I'm sure you're going to ask that as a

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01:16:33,400 --> 01:16:37,800
Speaker 24: follow up. So that's that's the situation right now. People

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01:16:37,840 --> 01:16:42,320
Speaker 24: are people are hopeful that this will that America and

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Speaker 24: Israel will together do something to weaken and destroy this

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01:16:45,880 --> 01:16:49,240
Speaker 24: Islamic regime, but they are also a little bit uncertain

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01:16:49,439 --> 01:16:53,960
Speaker 24: and frightened, also because Donald Trump has kind of sent

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Speaker 24: mixed messages to the people of Iran, such as the

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01:16:57,880 --> 01:17:01,840
Speaker 24: latest is stay inside while bombs are falling, but also

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01:17:01,880 --> 01:17:04,680
Speaker 24: at the same time sees the moment and you know,

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01:17:06,000 --> 01:17:09,519
Speaker 24: be ambitious, make the change and all that. So there

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01:17:09,560 --> 01:17:13,240
Speaker 24: is uncertainty, there is hope, there is some fear, But

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Speaker 24: I would say the most dominant feeling that I that

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01:17:17,320 --> 01:17:20,320
Speaker 24: I perceive from Iran is that there is hope at

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01:17:20,360 --> 01:17:20,759
Speaker 24: the moment.

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Speaker 15: I mean, obviously we hope you're right, Ridbon, But at

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01:17:25,520 --> 01:17:28,960
Speaker 15: the same time, I guess I just I sometimes wonder

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01:17:29,080 --> 01:17:31,559
Speaker 15: if when we see these clips from when we see

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Speaker 15: these narratives, like are we being worked? Because I feel like,

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Speaker 15: certainly before the strikes were launched, I think I perceived

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01:17:38,080 --> 01:17:41,160
Speaker 15: on X, I perceived on media a lot of efforts

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01:17:41,200 --> 01:17:43,800
Speaker 15: to sell it. Oh, it's really on the tipping point

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01:17:43,800 --> 01:17:47,440
Speaker 15: it's clearly just about to fall and it looks really convincing,

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01:17:48,040 --> 01:17:50,559
Speaker 15: and then strikes happen. And it's not even that the

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01:17:50,560 --> 01:17:54,439
Speaker 15: government doesn't collapse, it's that there's not obvious signs that

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01:17:54,520 --> 01:17:57,080
Speaker 15: it would be, you know, on the ropes. And I

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01:17:57,080 --> 01:18:01,519
Speaker 15: guess inevitably is it the case that when we're seeing

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01:18:01,880 --> 01:18:04,120
Speaker 15: videos come out of countries like Iran, we are going

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01:18:04,120 --> 01:18:06,680
Speaker 15: to see the people who are most likely to have

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01:18:06,800 --> 01:18:10,120
Speaker 15: access to the internet, have access to smartphones, have access

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01:18:10,160 --> 01:18:12,519
Speaker 15: to stuff, even when there's the middle of a war

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01:18:12,560 --> 01:18:14,080
Speaker 15: going on. And that's just not going to be a

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Speaker 15: representative group for a country like Iran, where there are

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Speaker 15: rural people, poor people who are more likely to be

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01:18:20,560 --> 01:18:22,840
Speaker 15: backing a fundamentalist regime like this one.

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Speaker 24: So first again I would like to establish I mean,

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01:18:26,479 --> 01:18:29,519
Speaker 24: these are these are legitimate concerns in questions. But so

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01:18:29,680 --> 01:18:33,559
Speaker 24: according to all the research, even by Iranian organizations come

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01:18:33,600 --> 01:18:37,840
Speaker 24: on and certain others, when the Iranian people themselves are

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01:18:37,840 --> 01:18:40,320
Speaker 24: pulled this is this is prior to the war, when

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Speaker 24: they are polled and asked about their opinions on the

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01:18:43,880 --> 01:18:46,519
Speaker 24: on the government and you know who or what should

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01:18:46,520 --> 01:18:49,160
Speaker 24: be in charge, Over eighty five percent of them say

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Speaker 24: that the Islamic regime should not be in charge. The

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01:18:53,439 --> 01:18:56,680
Speaker 24: most popular option for people to pick as for you know,

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01:18:56,840 --> 01:19:01,000
Speaker 24: the who should be in charge is half or up

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01:19:01,040 --> 01:19:03,720
Speaker 24: to a half of the population says that the that

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01:19:03,800 --> 01:19:07,280
Speaker 24: the crown Prince as a partly v should be should

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Speaker 24: take over and should lead the country towards some kind

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Speaker 24: of democracy or something like that. So the people are

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Speaker 24: really really severely disheartened. Much of the videos that come

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01:19:17,080 --> 01:19:19,800
Speaker 24: out are many of the videos that come out come

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01:19:19,840 --> 01:19:24,439
Speaker 24: out after blackouts, when somebody records something, then we wait

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01:19:24,479 --> 01:19:26,280
Speaker 24: for a while, and then they somehow gain access to

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01:19:26,280 --> 01:19:28,479
Speaker 24: the internet, they publish it, and then we see it.

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Speaker 24: So I do have a lot of sources, a lot

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Speaker 24: of people. I can recommend many people who are doing

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Speaker 24: this all the time. One of those is a Canadian politician,

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01:19:40,320 --> 01:19:43,360
Speaker 24: former politician actually was kicked out because she was speaking about,

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01:19:43,760 --> 01:19:47,160
Speaker 24: you know, critically about about Islam, Goldie Amari. She she

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01:19:47,280 --> 01:19:49,720
Speaker 24: posts about this or reports about this, and talks to

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01:19:49,760 --> 01:19:55,720
Speaker 24: Iranians within Iran every every day. And so the sentiments

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01:19:55,760 --> 01:19:58,960
Speaker 24: there are generally that the people have hope. Now there

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01:19:58,960 --> 01:20:04,439
Speaker 24: is one misunderstanding which, as you mentioned tipping point, I

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01:20:04,479 --> 01:20:06,800
Speaker 24: would have been. I was also at the beginning of

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01:20:06,800 --> 01:20:09,200
Speaker 24: this war very careful to say that the Islamic regime

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01:20:09,280 --> 01:20:11,880
Speaker 24: is about to die or about to crumble. I was

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01:20:11,920 --> 01:20:16,120
Speaker 24: sure that the Supreme Supreme Leader Kamene would die and

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Speaker 24: be killed. He was on the list very high of

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Speaker 24: people who are to be killed. But the Islamic regime,

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Speaker 24: as I said, is not necessarily at a very terrible

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01:20:27,240 --> 01:20:30,799
Speaker 24: tipping point. They are weakened, but even when they are weak,

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01:20:31,320 --> 01:20:34,719
Speaker 24: they have a very firm ideology that they stand by.

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Speaker 24: They are hardcore ideologues and loyalists. If they only had

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01:20:39,600 --> 01:20:42,040
Speaker 24: three people left in that government, they would still not

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01:20:42,120 --> 01:20:44,960
Speaker 24: give up, and they would still fire whatever they have

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01:20:45,240 --> 01:20:48,160
Speaker 24: at their surroundings in order to survive. This is not

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01:20:48,200 --> 01:20:51,439
Speaker 24: a government that actually cares about the people. Think about

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01:20:51,439 --> 01:20:54,479
Speaker 24: it this way. If in a Western nation the majority

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Speaker 24: of the population walked toward their government buildings and demanded

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01:20:58,960 --> 01:21:02,280
Speaker 24: that the government steps down, in a civilized, you know,

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01:21:02,400 --> 01:21:06,120
Speaker 24: Western society, the government would most likely eventually give up.

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Speaker 24: In Iran, Iranians are also very very much unlike most

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Speaker 24: of the Middle Eastern people, but their government is a

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01:21:13,120 --> 01:21:18,760
Speaker 24: very barbaric Islamist regime and they don't understand any of this.

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01:21:18,920 --> 01:21:21,959
Speaker 24: If the entire population walked toward the government and demanded

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01:21:22,000 --> 01:21:25,519
Speaker 24: them to step down, they would have no problem shooting

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01:21:25,560 --> 01:21:28,200
Speaker 24: down and mowing down the entire population in order to

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01:21:28,200 --> 01:21:35,280
Speaker 24: preserve their ideology and their ideological apocalyptic government which has

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01:21:35,320 --> 01:21:39,120
Speaker 24: the ambitions of bringing about their end time figure and

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01:21:39,240 --> 01:21:42,360
Speaker 24: you know, expanding Islam or Shia Islam to the whole world.

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Speaker 24: So there's also one aspect, which is at the beginning

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01:21:47,200 --> 01:21:51,280
Speaker 24: of the war, Israel itself was trying to explore whether

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01:21:51,960 --> 01:21:55,680
Speaker 24: they could help the Iranian people overthrow the regime. The

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01:21:55,760 --> 01:21:59,040
Speaker 24: latest reports are that the Israeli government itself is a

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01:21:59,080 --> 01:22:02,519
Speaker 24: little bit frustrated because they don't seem to really be

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01:22:02,640 --> 01:22:06,360
Speaker 24: able to mobilize the Iranian people. It's because the Iranian

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01:22:06,400 --> 01:22:08,960
Speaker 24: people are scared. The last time they stood up, the

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Speaker 24: last few times they stood up, they were massacred just

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01:22:11,400 --> 01:22:15,160
Speaker 24: a few months ago in January, over thirty thousand of

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Speaker 24: them were killed.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Ridvan hanging right there.

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Speaker 1: To the Charlie Kirk Show.

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Speaker 14: More with ridvan Idemir and he's also known as the

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Speaker 14: apostate profit. Check him out on YouTube and x a

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Speaker 14: great follow. I'm gonna play this cut here from Prince

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Speaker 14: Raza Polavi at CPAC Top five.

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Speaker 13: For the goodwill between our two people which you see

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Speaker 13: on vibrant display here today.

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01:23:55,479 --> 01:23:57,840
Speaker 6: To continue, we must finish the job.

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01:23:58,760 --> 01:24:01,600
Speaker 1: This regime and it's entirety must go.

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01:24:02,040 --> 01:24:04,680
Speaker 14: If we do not finish the job and leave a

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Speaker 14: romp of the regime in place, the threat posed by

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01:24:08,520 --> 01:24:10,879
Speaker 14: this Islamic Republic will not be solved.

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01:24:11,320 --> 01:24:13,160
Speaker 1: It will only be made worse.

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Speaker 6: Terrorists cannot be trusted to bring peace.

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01:24:16,240 --> 01:24:17,200
Speaker 1: There are thugs.

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Speaker 5: They are not deal makers.

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01:24:19,400 --> 01:24:21,280
Speaker 6: There are agents of chaos.

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Speaker 14: All right, So, Ridvan, we've got this juxtaposition here right

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01:24:26,080 --> 01:24:30,320
Speaker 14: where you hear Raises saying we got to have regime change.

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01:24:30,360 --> 01:24:32,840
Speaker 14: Trump is like, well, We've already had regime change because

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01:24:32,840 --> 01:24:34,840
Speaker 14: the guys I'm working with right now are really nice.

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Speaker 14: And then we just got a report from Breitbart saying

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Speaker 14: Israel will decline to join any ground operations Americans might

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Speaker 14: launch in Iran.

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Speaker 1: There's all kinds of mixed signals. Are we gonna do?

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Speaker 14: We need boots on the ground to get this done,

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01:24:50,080 --> 01:24:52,760
Speaker 14: to get this mission accomplished, to get the overthrow of

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01:24:52,920 --> 01:24:57,200
Speaker 14: the regime. And is that is that we we're against that.

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01:24:57,320 --> 01:24:59,280
Speaker 14: I'll just be really honest, we're against that on the show.

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01:25:00,120 --> 01:25:03,320
Speaker 14: And so does does that need it? Because they're not armed?

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01:25:03,400 --> 01:25:05,800
Speaker 14: The Irgc is armed. That's why they mow people down

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01:25:05,800 --> 01:25:08,679
Speaker 14: in the streets. How do you overthrow this regime without

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01:25:08,680 --> 01:25:11,080
Speaker 14: boots on the ground. Israel says they're not gonna help.

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01:25:11,160 --> 01:25:13,000
Speaker 14: Raza says, we've got to get regime changed. Make it

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Speaker 14: all make sense.

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Speaker 24: And that's also one of the main issues why the

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01:25:16,840 --> 01:25:20,559
Speaker 24: Iranians are not really rising up to overthrow the regime.

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Speaker 24: Rising up to overthrow the regime is not something that

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01:25:23,280 --> 01:25:26,600
Speaker 24: uh that the that the Iranian population, which really be

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01:25:27,400 --> 01:25:31,479
Speaker 24: you know, would lovingly do it would result in mass

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01:25:31,560 --> 01:25:33,640
Speaker 24: violence and killings. And it's not it's it's not a

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Speaker 24: very good Iranian uh trait that are that they are

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01:25:38,000 --> 01:25:40,400
Speaker 24: really really into, unlike most of the other you know,

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01:25:40,479 --> 01:25:44,600
Speaker 24: Middle Eastern or Arab countries for example. It is a

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01:25:44,680 --> 01:25:47,080
Speaker 24: very difficult situation. It depends on what's really what what

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01:25:47,120 --> 01:25:49,479
Speaker 24: the plan really is. The thing is that Donald Trump

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01:25:49,840 --> 01:25:54,760
Speaker 24: and Netanyahu both said that that that there is no

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01:25:54,840 --> 01:25:58,080
Speaker 24: future for this entire regime so that the regime must go.

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01:25:58,560 --> 01:26:00,960
Speaker 24: But then Trump also said that he's in good talks

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01:26:01,000 --> 01:26:05,200
Speaker 24: with the current Iranian leadership, whereas the Iranian sight said,

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01:26:05,240 --> 01:26:08,600
Speaker 24: we are actually not, so we are receiving lots of

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01:26:08,600 --> 01:26:11,920
Speaker 24: mixed signals and there is a there is a complex

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01:26:11,960 --> 01:26:14,559
Speaker 24: situation on the ground. The Iranian military says, there are

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01:26:14,600 --> 01:26:17,000
Speaker 24: no talks. We will not surrender to any of your demands.

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01:26:17,439 --> 01:26:20,840
Speaker 24: You will lose this war, publishing leg away eye videos

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01:26:20,840 --> 01:26:24,400
Speaker 24: and things like that. What the what the American government

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01:26:24,479 --> 01:26:28,000
Speaker 24: currently demands from them is that they completely roll back

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01:26:28,080 --> 01:26:31,479
Speaker 24: their nuclear enrichment program, because Iran made it very clear

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Speaker 24: that they plan to enrich uranium to absurd levels of

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01:26:35,479 --> 01:26:39,679
Speaker 24: you know, sixty or eighty ninety and uh, civilian reasonable

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01:26:39,720 --> 01:26:43,599
Speaker 24: civilian use is kepped at five percent. So they are

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01:26:43,640 --> 01:26:48,320
Speaker 24: clearly aiming for for military use. To dismantle most of

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01:26:48,360 --> 01:26:53,759
Speaker 24: the nuclear facilities, to stop completely, and disband all their

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01:26:54,080 --> 01:26:57,800
Speaker 24: proxy military units like the Hazibola, the Houthis.

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Speaker 5: And all that.

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Speaker 24: Iran is not going to do these things. Any kind

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01:27:01,160 --> 01:27:03,160
Speaker 24: of peace deal that might be reached will be a

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01:27:03,160 --> 01:27:05,960
Speaker 24: temporary one. And if there is a peace deal that

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01:27:06,040 --> 01:27:09,479
Speaker 24: will be reached, we will be in no time back

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01:27:09,520 --> 01:27:12,680
Speaker 24: to fighting again after this, maybe in months, maybe in

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01:27:12,680 --> 01:27:15,920
Speaker 24: a few years. So the regime needs to go, it

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01:27:15,960 --> 01:27:18,280
Speaker 24: needs to change. It is also, i would say, from

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01:27:18,320 --> 01:27:22,559
Speaker 24: my perspective, a moral issue. This is a regime that

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01:27:22,600 --> 01:27:28,559
Speaker 24: brutally mistreats and kills its population over nothing, over women

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01:27:28,720 --> 01:27:31,680
Speaker 24: or girls refusing to cover themselves properly and all that.

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01:27:32,479 --> 01:27:35,200
Speaker 24: For a power like America, it would be a good

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01:27:35,280 --> 01:27:37,639
Speaker 24: and moral thing to help them take out this regime.

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Speaker 1: That said, yeah, go ahead.

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01:27:40,720 --> 01:27:42,520
Speaker 5: That said, I also.

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Speaker 24: Would not like to see boots on the ground in

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01:27:45,320 --> 01:27:49,160
Speaker 24: the traditional way. It would be a very difficult situation.

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01:27:49,360 --> 01:27:53,479
Speaker 24: It would bring suffering to America, to Americans, and it

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01:27:53,520 --> 01:27:57,560
Speaker 24: could also escalate very quickly and result in massive bloodshed

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01:27:57,600 --> 01:28:03,320
Speaker 24: over there. What I do think is reasonable is if

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01:28:03,680 --> 01:28:06,840
Speaker 24: if American and Israel take this seriously and you know,

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01:28:08,840 --> 01:28:13,160
Speaker 24: gain complete air superiority over Iran, which is by the way,

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Speaker 24: one of the goals of the of the of the

1742
01:28:14,840 --> 01:28:18,280
Speaker 24: of the current proposed piece deal to have complete, you know,

1743
01:28:18,400 --> 01:28:22,480
Speaker 24: intrusive surveillance over Iran. If they gain proper air superiority,

1744
01:28:22,520 --> 01:28:25,400
Speaker 24: I think the only way that boots on the ground

1745
01:28:25,439 --> 01:28:27,559
Speaker 24: could be done would be to send in a special

1746
01:28:27,640 --> 01:28:30,000
Speaker 24: force to take out certain targets and then to establish

1747
01:28:30,040 --> 01:28:32,960
Speaker 24: a you know, a a a proper force for the

1748
01:28:33,000 --> 01:28:36,720
Speaker 24: people inside that country. But that is I am at

1749
01:28:36,720 --> 01:28:40,559
Speaker 24: this point just uh speculating and you know, wishing and

1750
01:28:40,600 --> 01:28:43,280
Speaker 24: hoping for something, but it's unclear what's what's going to

1751
01:28:43,320 --> 01:28:43,679
Speaker 24: come here.

1752
01:28:44,520 --> 01:28:49,400
Speaker 15: I just it makes me concerned where people say, as

1753
01:28:49,400 --> 01:28:51,840
Speaker 15: you say, the regime is bad, the regime must go.

1754
01:28:51,920 --> 01:28:53,720
Speaker 15: But if we're going to say the regime must go,

1755
01:28:54,800 --> 01:28:57,280
Speaker 15: what is actually the expense we're willing to bear? Because

1756
01:28:57,280 --> 01:28:59,880
Speaker 15: I think if you could topple this government entirely with

1757
01:29:00,040 --> 01:29:04,120
Speaker 15: air power, it would have happened by now. And so instead,

1758
01:29:04,520 --> 01:29:07,400
Speaker 15: once you're committing troops, Well, it's a country, what is it?

1759
01:29:07,439 --> 01:29:10,400
Speaker 15: Three times the size of I think three times the

1760
01:29:10,400 --> 01:29:13,479
Speaker 15: size of Ukrainine, It's like five times the size of Texas,

1761
01:29:13,479 --> 01:29:17,520
Speaker 15: something like that. Ninety million people, very rugged, very mountainous.

1762
01:29:17,560 --> 01:29:19,400
Speaker 15: It's got a lot of big cities, it's got a

1763
01:29:19,439 --> 01:29:21,080
Speaker 15: lot of deserts, it's got a lot.

1764
01:29:21,000 --> 01:29:21,879
Speaker 6: Of mountain forests.

1765
01:29:22,560 --> 01:29:26,879
Speaker 15: And I don't think a few thousand people could topple

1766
01:29:26,920 --> 01:29:27,519
Speaker 15: that government.

1767
01:29:27,640 --> 01:29:30,200
Speaker 6: You would actually need a big commitment.

1768
01:29:30,280 --> 01:29:32,640
Speaker 15: And at that point, I don't think we have the

1769
01:29:32,640 --> 01:29:35,000
Speaker 15: political lift for that in the United States, I don't

1770
01:29:35,000 --> 01:29:38,160
Speaker 15: think we have the readiness to spend that sort of thing.

1771
01:29:38,200 --> 01:29:42,400
Speaker 15: And then you're stuck asking yourselves, Okay, well we say

1772
01:29:42,400 --> 01:29:44,479
Speaker 15: the regime must go, but do we actually think that

1773
01:29:44,920 --> 01:29:47,240
Speaker 15: or can we tolerate in issue?

1774
01:29:47,840 --> 01:29:48,040
Speaker 17: Yeah?

1775
01:29:48,080 --> 01:29:50,519
Speaker 14: My issue is then it's like, well, listen, I don't

1776
01:29:50,520 --> 01:29:53,320
Speaker 14: want a nation build. I mean, I want regime change

1777
01:29:53,320 --> 01:29:56,559
Speaker 14: for the Iranian people, but I want stuff for America too.

1778
01:29:56,720 --> 01:29:58,800
Speaker 14: And the whole time we're focused on this, we're not

1779
01:29:58,800 --> 01:30:01,280
Speaker 14: spending two hundred million dollars here at home to get

1780
01:30:01,280 --> 01:30:03,120
Speaker 14: it fixed, you know what I mean. So I just

1781
01:30:03,600 --> 01:30:06,040
Speaker 14: as an American, you're kind of going, Okay, if we

1782
01:30:06,080 --> 01:30:07,880
Speaker 14: can't get everything we want, but we can get the

1783
01:30:07,880 --> 01:30:10,080
Speaker 14: straight of hor moves open, and we can get you know,

1784
01:30:10,439 --> 01:30:13,320
Speaker 14: no nukes, no nukes and of their ballistic missiles whatever.

1785
01:30:14,280 --> 01:30:15,519
Speaker 1: Is that good enough? Right?

1786
01:30:15,640 --> 01:30:18,120
Speaker 14: At some point Iranians need to take this into their

1787
01:30:18,120 --> 01:30:20,800
Speaker 14: own hands and maybe raise it can do it. Maybe

1788
01:30:20,800 --> 01:30:22,559
Speaker 14: he can spark this this revolution.

1789
01:30:23,600 --> 01:30:25,840
Speaker 24: Maybe I mean he tries, he tries to appeal to

1790
01:30:26,000 --> 01:30:28,600
Speaker 24: the loyal forces all the time. The the issue is,

1791
01:30:29,840 --> 01:30:32,000
Speaker 24: so you know that there is one conversation that people

1792
01:30:32,000 --> 01:30:34,479
Speaker 24: have and that people raise, which is that that that

1793
01:30:34,520 --> 01:30:37,960
Speaker 24: the Islamic regime in Iran does not pose an imminent

1794
01:30:38,000 --> 01:30:40,439
Speaker 24: threat to the United States of America. I agree that

1795
01:30:40,479 --> 01:30:42,519
Speaker 24: it doesn't pose an imminent threat to the United States

1796
01:30:42,520 --> 01:30:45,519
Speaker 24: of America. However, it does pose a threat overall. And

1797
01:30:45,600 --> 01:30:47,599
Speaker 24: you know when you haven't, when you have a very vicious,

1798
01:30:47,680 --> 01:30:50,720
Speaker 24: fierce enemy, you usually don't wait until they pose an

1799
01:30:50,760 --> 01:30:54,880
Speaker 24: imminent threat. So, even if it is simply for our

1800
01:30:54,920 --> 01:30:58,920
Speaker 24: own interests, if America just lets them be and and

1801
01:30:59,080 --> 01:31:02,679
Speaker 24: comes out with a deal that prevents them from advancing

1802
01:31:02,720 --> 01:31:05,680
Speaker 24: their nuclear enrichment program, first of them, I do not

1803
01:31:05,800 --> 01:31:08,599
Speaker 24: believe for a second that the Islamic regime will actually

1804
01:31:08,640 --> 01:31:09,080
Speaker 24: honor that.

1805
01:31:10,160 --> 01:31:10,639
Speaker 5: The second.

1806
01:31:11,200 --> 01:31:14,400
Speaker 24: Secondly, the Islamic regime has it in their constitution and

1807
01:31:14,439 --> 01:31:17,200
Speaker 24: in their words the entire time. Make no mistake, they

1808
01:31:17,200 --> 01:31:21,479
Speaker 24: are expanding their ballistic missile capability capabilities. Their slogan, their

1809
01:31:21,520 --> 01:31:24,679
Speaker 24: most popular slogan has been for forty years now, death

1810
01:31:24,720 --> 01:31:28,880
Speaker 24: to America and death to Israel. America is the is

1811
01:31:28,920 --> 01:31:31,200
Speaker 24: the great Satan. Israel is the small sentence.

1812
01:31:31,439 --> 01:31:33,320
Speaker 14: Yeah, we got to wrap up. We're running out of

1813
01:31:33,360 --> 01:31:35,280
Speaker 14: time here, but your point is well made.

1814
01:31:35,400 --> 01:31:36,599
Speaker 1: Thank you. For making the time.

1815
01:31:36,720 --> 01:31:40,160
Speaker 14: Thank you, we're praying for success. In a quick and

1816
01:31:40,200 --> 01:31:43,000
Speaker 14: a quick wrap up to this conflict in Iran, thank you,

1817
01:31:43,040 --> 01:31:43,320
Speaker 14: my friend.

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Speaker 1: We'll talk to you against an. We'll see you tomorrow