1 00:00:07,560 --> 00:00:09,640 Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to Savor, a production of I Heart 2 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:12,320 Speaker 1: Radio and Stuff Media. I'm Annies and I'm Lauren Vocal 3 00:00:12,400 --> 00:00:16,880 Speaker 1: bamb and today we're talking about limes, yes, lines, which 4 00:00:16,880 --> 00:00:19,640 Speaker 1: I'm really excited about. I love I love live. Oh, 5 00:00:19,680 --> 00:00:23,159 Speaker 1: I love a line. Yeah, I love a lie. But 6 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:25,200 Speaker 1: we're not talking about lemons today. But my old um 7 00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:30,560 Speaker 1: pen name I had a pen name was Lemon Lemon Squeezy. 8 00:00:30,840 --> 00:00:32,960 Speaker 1: But then I decided that was too tacky, so I 9 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:38,200 Speaker 1: changed the plump Pickens, which is clearly way classy, clearly 10 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:42,879 Speaker 1: clearly Professor Plumb and Clue was like, oh it was 11 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:47,960 Speaker 1: pretty super classy. Her Baine even her Bine indeed, and 12 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:49,879 Speaker 1: one of the first things I found about when we 13 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 1: were and I'm always like, let's include some fun banter 14 00:00:52,840 --> 00:00:56,280 Speaker 1: at the top. It's so fun. I know it is 15 00:00:56,520 --> 00:01:00,720 Speaker 1: um lime wire. That's Annie's music. Empire was built on 16 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:04,120 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, back in the day when you had all 17 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:07,560 Speaker 1: of the mixed CDs mix. For anyone who doesn't know, 18 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:10,920 Speaker 1: this was a file sharing service that I would say 19 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:15,280 Speaker 1: largely got used for illegally sharing music. Yes, much like 20 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:19,280 Speaker 1: all of the file sharing services circu that time. Yep, 21 00:01:19,520 --> 00:01:21,560 Speaker 1: pretty much. I don't know if it's still around anymore. 22 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think so. I have absolutely no idea. 23 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:27,959 Speaker 1: I have a friend of a friend who met her husband. 24 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:35,679 Speaker 1: That's so sweet, isn't it. Heck uh, yeah, I don't 25 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:39,319 Speaker 1: have any stories about lime wire particularly, but um, but 26 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:43,600 Speaker 1: my roommate does have a lime tree um, which apparently 27 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:46,800 Speaker 1: she has she has grown, much to the chagrin of 28 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 1: one of my friends from a from a farming family 29 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:51,560 Speaker 1: from Florida. She has grown it incorrectly and it's now 30 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:54,480 Speaker 1: just a permanently dwarfed, little like shrub sized tree. But 31 00:01:54,520 --> 00:01:57,880 Speaker 1: that's actually very convenient for you know her and also 32 00:01:58,440 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 1: you know me, because we have to move it inside 33 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 1: and outside every winter and summer. Yeah, you know, gonna 34 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:06,640 Speaker 1: be much harder to do with like a big tree. 35 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 1: With a full sized tree. As it stands, it's it's 36 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:14,679 Speaker 1: not lightweight, but it is heck and delightful. Like about 37 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:17,440 Speaker 1: once every two years we get i don't know, like 38 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 1: twenty limes, like a whole bunch of limes. The flowers 39 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:24,320 Speaker 1: I mean, especially for small tree, and the flowers smell 40 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:28,040 Speaker 1: beautiful and and oh it's just it's really nice. It 41 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 1: sounds lovely, has thorns. Limes have thorns, they do. Indeed, 42 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 1: this is something that I would have been surprised by 43 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:39,120 Speaker 1: had I not already pricked myself on a lime tree. 44 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:43,960 Speaker 1: That makes sense. I was surprised to learn that. But 45 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 1: this brings us to our questions. Yeh, limes, what are they? Well, 46 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 1: limes are a whole mess of species within the genus citrus, 47 00:02:58,040 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 1: though they do have diverse genetic diverse sets. Immediately delighted 48 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:08,680 Speaker 1: by that. I love that. All right, we'll keep it. Uh, sure, 49 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:13,280 Speaker 1: they have diverse genetics. Um um, things called limes tend 50 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:17,239 Speaker 1: to be smallish, roundish fruits that consist of a greenish 51 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:21,040 Speaker 1: outer skin um sometimes yellow and ripe, dotted all over 52 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:24,040 Speaker 1: with sacks of highly fragrant oils. And inside of that 53 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:28,040 Speaker 1: there's a thin white layer of spongy pith which protects 54 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 1: sections of delicate, little pale green juice secs um and 55 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:34,880 Speaker 1: the fruit seeds all inside of that. Yeah, the juice 56 00:03:34,880 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 1: of limes tends to be acid, tart and bright and 57 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:39,360 Speaker 1: a little bit better, and the oils and the skin 58 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:43,120 Speaker 1: tend to be floral and bright and bitter. These fruits 59 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:45,440 Speaker 1: grow on trees that can range in size, shape, and 60 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 1: climate preference, but generally limes are tropical. Subtropical frost will 61 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 1: at best hurt the crop and at worst permanently damage 62 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 1: the tree. They do grow year round, but there's usually 63 00:03:56,400 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 1: one or two primary fruiting seasons, and yeah, lots of them, 64 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:03,840 Speaker 1: lots of women just thorny as heck. The leaves of 65 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:06,520 Speaker 1: some lime varieties are also used in some cuisines. Um, 66 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 1: they tend to be dark green and shiny on top 67 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 1: and pale and matt underneath. They've got a sort of 68 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:17,560 Speaker 1: gentler vibe in flavor than lime zest, but a similar ish, floral, 69 00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:22,080 Speaker 1: bitter bright profile. And the word lime seems to come 70 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 1: from a Persian word for the fruit liman, which then 71 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 1: filtered through Arabic and either Portuguese and or Spanish to 72 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 1: get to English sometimes around the sixteen thirties. Nutrition wise, 73 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:37,039 Speaker 1: lime zestin juice pack a lot of flavor for a 74 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:39,640 Speaker 1: local oric load. They contain a little less sugar and 75 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:42,279 Speaker 1: a little less citric acid than lemons do, and um, 76 00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:44,800 Speaker 1: they're pretty high in vitamin C. The juice of one 77 00:04:44,839 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 1: lime has about a third of your daily recommended value. 78 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:51,320 Speaker 1: Let's see, Yeah, vitamin C being useful because it's an antioxidant, 79 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:53,920 Speaker 1: which means that under certain conditions, it can help your 80 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 1: body prevent certain diseases like UM, cardiovascular disease, the cold 81 00:04:57,480 --> 00:05:00,320 Speaker 1: and flu, even some types of cancer. UM. It also 82 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:05,599 Speaker 1: helps your body absorb iron. Yeah, I said that. I 83 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:07,799 Speaker 1: was just remembering I read that somewhere, and I'm glad 84 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:12,200 Speaker 1: that that is true. It's always nice to know that 85 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 1: something you read is true. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, and 86 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:17,800 Speaker 1: that your brain hasn't just made up a fact exactly exactly. 87 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:20,760 Speaker 1: And you can see our Margarite episode for more about 88 00:05:20,839 --> 00:05:25,880 Speaker 1: lime burn, also known as margarita dermatitis. Yes, this is 89 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:29,880 Speaker 1: the thing where limes and other citruses are so acidic 90 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:33,120 Speaker 1: that if you have the juice on your skin and 91 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:36,039 Speaker 1: then you're out in the sun, you can get a sunburn, 92 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:41,119 Speaker 1: like a chemical burn from Yeah. Yeah, it's not good. 93 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:45,279 Speaker 1: Don't Yeah, where sunscreens, stay in the shade, wash your hands, 94 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:52,720 Speaker 1: never go outside. Your vampire inside is coming out. Laura 95 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:58,919 Speaker 1: always wanted to be invited in. That's just polite. We 96 00:05:59,040 --> 00:06:02,240 Speaker 1: know what you're up to. I'm not saying, I'm just 97 00:06:02,240 --> 00:06:10,880 Speaker 1: saying this is all good advice. True. Yeah, yeah, anyway, 98 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:13,719 Speaker 1: it's kind of vampire and some kind of sleeper agent 99 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:21,240 Speaker 1: on our team. Interesting alright, but numbers um actually not 100 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 1: super easy to come by. But as of limes, UM 101 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:29,920 Speaker 1: come from Mexico and that is followed by India, Argentina, Brazil, 102 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:35,839 Speaker 1: and Iran. There are so many types types um. Persian 103 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:39,280 Speaker 1: limes are the most commercially grown, sometimes called Tahitian limes. 104 00:06:40,320 --> 00:06:43,279 Speaker 1: There's also Mexican limes, often called key limes, which I 105 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 1: learned is an American retro nym, and I just like 106 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:50,599 Speaker 1: the word retro nyme. It's pretty good. Yeah. A Mexican 107 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:53,640 Speaker 1: or key limes are smaller and more tart than Persian limes. 108 00:06:54,120 --> 00:06:58,920 Speaker 1: There's also finger limes sometimes called lime caviare sweet limes 109 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:05,159 Speaker 1: and mandarin limes, blood limes, lime quats, some mix of 110 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:07,400 Speaker 1: kumquats and lines. It's great. If you guys have never 111 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:10,680 Speaker 1: seen finger lines or caviar limes, go look up a 112 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 1: picture these things. It's wild like they they the juice 113 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:16,400 Speaker 1: acts are kind of like a little bit more willy 114 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:20,040 Speaker 1: nilly inside the rind of the fruit. And so when 115 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:22,320 Speaker 1: you cut into one, it looks like, I don't know, 116 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:23,720 Speaker 1: like like you pull it away and it looks like 117 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 1: a salmonro nagiri. Oh huh, how interesting nature m anyway. Uh, 118 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:37,160 Speaker 1: there is one variety of lime whose name you probably 119 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 1: still see on store shelves in the West, but that 120 00:07:39,320 --> 00:07:42,520 Speaker 1: you should endeavor to learn a different name for. And 121 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 1: the name that I'm looking to avoid saying here is 122 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 1: k A F F I R. And I'm looking to 123 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:51,920 Speaker 1: avoid saying it because it's also a terrible racial slur 124 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:56,720 Speaker 1: used to demean black people in South Africa. The etymology 125 00:07:56,760 --> 00:07:58,840 Speaker 1: of the name for the lime and the slur seemed 126 00:07:58,880 --> 00:08:00,840 Speaker 1: to be separate, But that doesn't mean it's okay to 127 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:03,520 Speaker 1: go tossing the word around because it's hate speech in 128 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:06,520 Speaker 1: certain parts of the world. Um. Yeah, but it is 129 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:09,120 Speaker 1: one of the top three commercially grown limes in the world, 130 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 1: and its leaves and rind are important elements in many 131 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:15,840 Speaker 1: Southeast Asian cuisines. Um calling them Thai limes or macruit 132 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:22,240 Speaker 1: limes is preferred, and Americans on average eat three pounds 133 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:24,800 Speaker 1: of limes a year. I would imagine a lot of 134 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:27,920 Speaker 1: that goes into cocktail, you know, I don't know. Since 135 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:32,120 Speaker 1: nineteen eight, American lime consumption has increased by ten times, 136 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:34,520 Speaker 1: and that's mostly as we've been exposed to more dishes 137 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:37,800 Speaker 1: from around the world that utilized lime more than we do. 138 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:43,439 Speaker 1: Slash did correct. Lime is used in all kinds of things, 139 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:47,120 Speaker 1: drinks like the margarita, or lime made desserts like key 140 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:50,959 Speaker 1: lime pie. It's used in tacos and chutney's lime pickles, 141 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:55,000 Speaker 1: or integral in South Indian cuisine, in Vietnamese dishes like 142 00:08:55,080 --> 00:08:58,520 Speaker 1: fu and Thai food, dried lime in Persia and rocky 143 00:08:58,600 --> 00:09:02,120 Speaker 1: food part of the marine For savicha, the juice mixed 144 00:09:02,120 --> 00:09:05,520 Speaker 1: with salt is sometimes called an old sour uh and 145 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:08,200 Speaker 1: the twigs are used as chewing sticks in parts of Africa. 146 00:09:08,760 --> 00:09:11,560 Speaker 1: The leaves can be used dried in soups and stews, 147 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:14,199 Speaker 1: like in curries that's one of the flavor profiles and 148 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 1: tie curries for sure, or fresh in cooking salads or 149 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:20,240 Speaker 1: as garnish. Um. You can look for frozen mucroot leaves 150 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 1: at your local Asian grocery. Mm hmmmm. Lime juice is 151 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:27,760 Speaker 1: an important ingredient in jam and salad dressing industries because 152 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:30,719 Speaker 1: of its citric acid, and it can be used in 153 00:09:30,760 --> 00:09:33,960 Speaker 1: a variety of non food ways, like lightning hair, which 154 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:37,280 Speaker 1: as an actress, I've been advised to do usually more 155 00:09:37,280 --> 00:09:42,280 Speaker 1: with lemon. But what yeah, either way, and cleaning coffee 156 00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:45,800 Speaker 1: pots that kind of an old wives tail stumbled upon. Yeah, yeah, 157 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:49,160 Speaker 1: all kinds of cleaning products are made with made with lime, 158 00:09:49,280 --> 00:09:53,520 Speaker 1: lime juice and zest boils, stuff like that. M I 159 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:55,520 Speaker 1: went on such a big Margarita kick a couple of 160 00:09:55,559 --> 00:10:01,040 Speaker 1: years ago. I bought like a specialized lime juice. Oh yeah, yeah, 161 00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:05,320 Speaker 1: that kind of all five. They're harder to like juice 162 00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:08,080 Speaker 1: than lemons. They are. They're a little bit they tend 163 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:10,760 Speaker 1: to be a little bit stiffer, especially these days as 164 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:13,120 Speaker 1: we we have perhaps lower quality lines coming into the 165 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:16,320 Speaker 1: United States. But um, but yeah, yeah, do do a 166 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:19,880 Speaker 1: good roll it on the table before before you juice it. 167 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:22,400 Speaker 1: That will help them kind of squish all the bits inside. 168 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:26,280 Speaker 1: Pree squish free squish before the big squish. Yeah. You 169 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:30,480 Speaker 1: can also microwave a line for just like like under 170 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:33,720 Speaker 1: thirty seconds, like like ten to twenty seconds, I would say, 171 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:36,640 Speaker 1: just enough to kind of excite them all, just just 172 00:10:36,679 --> 00:10:39,760 Speaker 1: to yeah, like loose again, loosen everything up pre squish. 173 00:10:39,920 --> 00:10:43,480 Speaker 1: Margarita gave is about to get even better. Thank you 174 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:47,560 Speaker 1: Lauren any time, all right, but this about brings us 175 00:10:47,559 --> 00:10:50,360 Speaker 1: to our history portion. But first it brings us to 176 00:10:50,400 --> 00:11:01,320 Speaker 1: a quick break for a word from our sponsor, and 177 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:05,440 Speaker 1: we're back. Thank you sponsor, Yes, thank you. So. Citrus 178 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:08,319 Speaker 1: trees as we sort of know them have been around 179 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:11,679 Speaker 1: for about eight million years, which we know because researchers 180 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:14,880 Speaker 1: found a fossilized citrus leaf that's about that old and 181 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:19,640 Speaker 1: what's now southwestern China. Wow. Yeah, Records of citrus cultivation 182 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:22,880 Speaker 1: in general go back some four thousand years, but um, 183 00:11:22,920 --> 00:11:25,960 Speaker 1: it's likely the varieties that we know today took thousands 184 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 1: of years of a hybridization um both natural and human 185 00:11:29,840 --> 00:11:36,200 Speaker 1: produced rights. The first wildlin's probably originated in the Indonesian archipelago, 186 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:39,920 Speaker 1: are perhaps on the Asian mainland. Records show that they 187 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:44,640 Speaker 1: were first commercially grown in Babylonia modern day Rock and 188 00:11:44,760 --> 00:11:47,920 Speaker 1: these were what we today called papadas, a group of 189 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:52,080 Speaker 1: lime citrus species that includes the aforementioned maccruit lime. The 190 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:54,560 Speaker 1: fruit of many papetas is too sour or better to 191 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:57,120 Speaker 1: really want to mess with, but they tend to be hardy, 192 00:11:57,280 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 1: and their skin and leaves again can be an excellent 193 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:05,080 Speaker 1: ingredient in cooking. Arabian traders spread limes along with other 194 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:08,440 Speaker 1: citrus um that they encountered in India, to the Eastern 195 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:12,360 Speaker 1: Mediterranean and Africa sometime around one thousand C. And to 196 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:17,040 Speaker 1: Spain even earlier, as early as four hundred. When the 197 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:19,800 Speaker 1: Crusaders returned to the western Mediterranean in the twelfth and 198 00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:23,520 Speaker 1: thirteenth century, they brought with them limes. They were being 199 00:12:23,559 --> 00:12:28,480 Speaker 1: cultivated in Italy and also probably France and the hundreds 200 00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:33,320 Speaker 1: sometime amidst all of this spread and cultivation. Molecular geneticists 201 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:37,240 Speaker 1: today think that popetas were crossed with species of citrons, 202 00:12:37,280 --> 00:12:40,840 Speaker 1: which is another one of the original primary types of citrus, 203 00:12:40,880 --> 00:12:43,280 Speaker 1: to give rise to many of the species of limes 204 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:46,640 Speaker 1: that we know today. Um, the original primary types of 205 00:12:46,640 --> 00:12:54,480 Speaker 1: citrus being Oh boy, yes, papadas, citron, mandarin, and pamello. 206 00:12:55,280 --> 00:12:58,040 Speaker 1: That's your true via fact of the episode, it is, 207 00:12:58,200 --> 00:13:00,800 Speaker 1: you're gonna really impress some my it with that one. 208 00:13:01,080 --> 00:13:03,559 Speaker 1: Keep that one close to your folks. You would impress 209 00:13:03,679 --> 00:13:06,959 Speaker 1: us for sure, my kidding. I'd be like, oh wow, 210 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:10,440 Speaker 1: And I'm glad you included this, because I got really 211 00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:14,600 Speaker 1: confused in this episode researching this. Lime have so many 212 00:13:14,640 --> 00:13:16,760 Speaker 1: different paths and because there's different types of lines like 213 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:21,480 Speaker 1: the history of lime is like it is it is, 214 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:23,120 Speaker 1: and I think that we could probably do a full 215 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:27,560 Speaker 1: episode on any of the specific varieties of line that 216 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:31,640 Speaker 1: exists today. I love it when we just go like, yeah, sure, 217 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:34,439 Speaker 1: let's just do Rice. Oh, I don't even want to 218 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:38,319 Speaker 1: think about that episode ever again. Oh that that other 219 00:13:38,520 --> 00:13:43,319 Speaker 1: way of measuring time before physics, that was great, right, Yeah, 220 00:13:43,520 --> 00:13:46,240 Speaker 1: heck no, I would happily talk about Rice again. But 221 00:13:46,240 --> 00:13:50,680 Speaker 1: that was Yeah, that we were foolish to undertake that. Well, 222 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:53,760 Speaker 1: we came through on the other side. We did as 223 00:13:53,840 --> 00:13:57,640 Speaker 1: we hopefully shall do today. I like it. We're on 224 00:13:57,640 --> 00:14:00,079 Speaker 1: a roller coaster and we're not sure if we're to 225 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:03,560 Speaker 1: ever make it to the end. Um. I think we can. Yeah. 226 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:10,800 Speaker 1: So Christopher Columbus Guy brought such receeds on his journey 227 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:14,480 Speaker 1: to the West Indies, probably including lime seeds. Not too 228 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:17,360 Speaker 1: long after, the trees could be found there, along with 229 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:19,880 Speaker 1: in Mexico and in Florida, and they were common in 230 00:14:19,960 --> 00:14:24,360 Speaker 1: Haiti by fifteen twenty. As we've mentioned in a couple 231 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:27,360 Speaker 1: of our Cocktail Hour episodes, lime juice was frequently used 232 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:32,000 Speaker 1: in beverages by the British Navy to prevent scurvy. That's 233 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:36,160 Speaker 1: where the term limi comes from. This at first was 234 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:40,520 Speaker 1: a closely monitored military secret and was the idea of 235 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:43,080 Speaker 1: Sir James Lynde. Although people have been doing it before them, 236 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:47,120 Speaker 1: they just weren't entirely sure about it. He even if 237 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:49,480 Speaker 1: he didn't have this science exactly right, he was pretty sure. 238 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:51,440 Speaker 1: Like he was like, yeah, no, this will work, let's 239 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:53,720 Speaker 1: let's implement this as a plan. I think he did 240 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:56,560 Speaker 1: one of the first controlled random trials to get to 241 00:14:56,600 --> 00:15:00,320 Speaker 1: the bottom of this and uh yeah. So End was 242 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:02,920 Speaker 1: a Scottish naval officer and he realized that scurvy had 243 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:07,320 Speaker 1: killed more people than skirmishes. For example, of the almost 244 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:10,440 Speaker 1: two thousand soldiers on a four year circumnavigation of the 245 00:15:10,440 --> 00:15:13,880 Speaker 1: globe ending in seventeen forty four, only one hundred and 246 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:17,360 Speaker 1: forty five survived. Four had been killed by enemies, and 247 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:21,280 Speaker 1: scurvy killed the rest. Oh my goodness, a huge deal. Um. 248 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:23,560 Speaker 1: That was This is my rabbit hole of the episode. 249 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:28,360 Speaker 1: I researched so much about scurvy and I had to 250 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:32,320 Speaker 1: rain myself in um. But you can see our gin 251 00:15:32,360 --> 00:15:37,720 Speaker 1: and Tonic episode for the potentially antimalarial properties of quinting 252 00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:39,720 Speaker 1: and tonic and the addition of lime and gent to 253 00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:41,680 Speaker 1: make the medicine go down. That's one of my favorite 254 00:15:42,640 --> 00:15:45,040 Speaker 1: histories and a cocktail Hour episode we've ever done that 255 00:15:45,080 --> 00:15:47,920 Speaker 1: was a really good one. It was the surgeon General 256 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:50,520 Speaker 1: of the East India Company recommended lime juice as far 257 00:15:50,560 --> 00:15:54,120 Speaker 1: back as sixteen fourteen. By the eighteen fifties, sailors grog, 258 00:15:54,160 --> 00:15:56,360 Speaker 1: which was a mixture of rum water and lime juice, 259 00:15:56,400 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 1: was part of Sailor's rations and this ultimately helped the 260 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:03,280 Speaker 1: British defeat Napoleon. So yeah, big deal, kind of a 261 00:16:03,280 --> 00:16:07,440 Speaker 1: big deal, kind of a big deal. Persian limes from 262 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:10,720 Speaker 1: Brazil arrived to Australia in eighteen twenty four and in 263 00:16:10,800 --> 00:16:14,960 Speaker 1: California via Tahiti sometime between eighteen fifty and eighteen eighty 264 00:16:15,160 --> 00:16:19,120 Speaker 1: hence the term Tahitian lime exactly. Since the Persian line 265 00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:22,480 Speaker 1: was hardier than the key lime with its thinner skin 266 00:16:22,800 --> 00:16:26,480 Speaker 1: um and that made that key lime less suitable for transport, 267 00:16:26,720 --> 00:16:29,960 Speaker 1: Cultivators in Florida switched out most key limes to Persian limes. 268 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:33,960 Speaker 1: Small scale commercial cultivation of limes and Orange and Lake 269 00:16:34,080 --> 00:16:38,320 Speaker 1: Counties in Florida began in eighteen eighty three and After 270 00:16:38,440 --> 00:16:41,080 Speaker 1: a nineteen oh six hurricane and depletion of the soil 271 00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:44,800 Speaker 1: due to pineapples, farmers in the Florida Keys replaced their 272 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:48,360 Speaker 1: crop with limes. They would then be pickled in salt 273 00:16:48,400 --> 00:16:51,080 Speaker 1: water and sent to Boston and sold as a snack. 274 00:16:51,480 --> 00:16:54,440 Speaker 1: Kids in particular liked them, and they were even mentioned 275 00:16:54,440 --> 00:16:58,720 Speaker 1: in Little Women, which I love. A hurricane in ninety 276 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:03,680 Speaker 1: six wiped out the small industry. Though I say like, 277 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:06,119 Speaker 1: like affirmatively, as though it's a fun fact, it's not really. 278 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:08,560 Speaker 1: I mean, that's just a fact it is, but a 279 00:17:08,600 --> 00:17:12,200 Speaker 1: lot of hurricanes due to the tropical and subtropical climate 280 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:14,320 Speaker 1: of limes, a lot of hurricanes have impacted a lot 281 00:17:14,320 --> 00:17:18,040 Speaker 1: of lime industries around the world over over time. Yeah, 282 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:20,120 Speaker 1: and it's it's I would say, one of the main 283 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:23,520 Speaker 1: reasons that the US gets uh, most of our lives 284 00:17:23,560 --> 00:17:25,320 Speaker 1: from Mexico. And we'll go into that a little bit 285 00:17:25,320 --> 00:17:28,399 Speaker 1: more detail in a minute. Yeah. Absolutely. The early nineteen 286 00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:31,520 Speaker 1: hundreds is when the Key lime took off in Key West, 287 00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:35,520 Speaker 1: which at the time was the southernmost American city. I 288 00:17:35,560 --> 00:17:38,600 Speaker 1: love those. Okay, some milk tanks didn't. They couldn't make 289 00:17:38,640 --> 00:17:41,600 Speaker 1: their way down there. So before the opening of the 290 00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:44,960 Speaker 1: Overseas Highway NTS. Milk tanks can now get down there. 291 00:17:45,280 --> 00:17:51,880 Speaker 1: Chefs used canned condensed milk soured with limes. However, after 292 00:17:51,920 --> 00:17:55,280 Speaker 1: that n hurricane wiped out most of the crop of 293 00:17:55,400 --> 00:17:58,640 Speaker 1: key limes, they were replaced with Persian limes, meaning most 294 00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:01,800 Speaker 1: key limes we see on men use instead refers to 295 00:18:01,920 --> 00:18:06,040 Speaker 1: Persian lives most of the time, not all the time. 296 00:18:06,359 --> 00:18:09,760 Speaker 1: Occasionally there is real key lime involved, but generally speaking 297 00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:13,840 Speaker 1: probably not from what I read, though it might be 298 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:17,199 Speaker 1: less uncommon now to actually have real time. Yeah, I 299 00:18:17,240 --> 00:18:20,520 Speaker 1: know that I've seen them in grocery stores more often. Yeah, 300 00:18:20,800 --> 00:18:23,520 Speaker 1: and there's there's a couple of places in Key West, 301 00:18:23,560 --> 00:18:26,960 Speaker 1: Florida where it's just known that that's real key line you. 302 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:30,880 Speaker 1: Raymond suckle Loove wrote about his search for key limes 303 00:18:30,880 --> 00:18:35,280 Speaker 1: in the poorest Caribbean can find real lines in his 304 00:18:35,359 --> 00:18:38,080 Speaker 1: local marketplace. But in America we can only buy Twahiti 305 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:42,439 Speaker 1: lines and our glistening supermarkets. Even or perhaps especially, in 306 00:18:42,480 --> 00:18:47,120 Speaker 1: the Keys. The conspiracy to hard this botanical masquerade has 307 00:18:47,160 --> 00:18:54,040 Speaker 1: succeeded almost completely in perpetuating the myth of a regional dish. 308 00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:56,600 Speaker 1: There seemed to be too agreed upon rules for a 309 00:18:56,640 --> 00:19:01,400 Speaker 1: good key lampie and key West one green food coloring 310 00:19:01,920 --> 00:19:06,200 Speaker 1: and two no gelatin. I would agree. Yeah, have you 311 00:19:06,240 --> 00:19:08,679 Speaker 1: ever made a key lim pie? No, that's squeezing a 312 00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:12,320 Speaker 1: lot of tiny, tiny limes. I've heard it's very intensive. 313 00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:14,359 Speaker 1: It's a little it's a little tedious. Yeah. I do 314 00:19:14,440 --> 00:19:18,040 Speaker 1: have a friend who doesn't cook essentially at all, but 315 00:19:18,119 --> 00:19:20,720 Speaker 1: he does make a key line pie and it's terrific. Matt. 316 00:19:20,760 --> 00:19:22,720 Speaker 1: If you're listening, shout out to your key line pie. 317 00:19:22,720 --> 00:19:25,520 Speaker 1: It's always excellent. I love those friends that have the 318 00:19:25,560 --> 00:19:27,760 Speaker 1: one thing they'll make, and I especially love it when 319 00:19:27,800 --> 00:19:31,760 Speaker 1: it's something complex and I'm like, all right, how did 320 00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:35,200 Speaker 1: this happen? Is so great? And it's delicious. Though, well, 321 00:19:35,280 --> 00:19:37,760 Speaker 1: this did get me. I don't normally crave keyl pie, 322 00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:40,280 Speaker 1: but this episode I've been like I do all the time. 323 00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:43,680 Speaker 1: Citrus desserts are some of my favorites. Yes, I have 324 00:19:43,720 --> 00:19:46,399 Speaker 1: a list of anytime someone tells me their favorite dessert, 325 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:48,200 Speaker 1: I write it down and on your on my list 326 00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:52,159 Speaker 1: is is a citrus lover. Just in case every want 327 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:53,560 Speaker 1: to make somebody a dessert, I like to be able 328 00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:56,320 Speaker 1: to consult the list and know what their favorite things 329 00:19:56,320 --> 00:20:02,720 Speaker 1: are anyway, that's just something about me. After World War One, 330 00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:06,440 Speaker 1: the Persian lime had solidified its place as a commercial 331 00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:10,639 Speaker 1: product in the United States. Despite initial consumer resistance at 332 00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:14,920 Speaker 1: the so called green lemon, Canadians resisted at first to 333 00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:20,480 Speaker 1: preferring them more flavorful key lime. George D. Fleming Jr. 334 00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:23,719 Speaker 1: Proprietor of Key Lime Associates, was looking to make what 335 00:20:23,760 --> 00:20:26,800 Speaker 1: he called a vacation cottage colony of limes in nineteen 336 00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:30,520 Speaker 1: fifty three. The next year, as the Florida Keys were developing, 337 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:33,959 Speaker 1: the Upper Florida Keys Chamber of Commerce was founded, in 338 00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:36,640 Speaker 1: part to spread the word about this line that they 339 00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:41,480 Speaker 1: were afraid might die out otherwise. In nineteen fifty nine, 340 00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:44,399 Speaker 1: with the help of the Upper Keys Kawanas Club, they 341 00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:48,359 Speaker 1: launched an educational campaign encouraging residents to plant the lime 342 00:20:48,520 --> 00:20:51,280 Speaker 1: and have lime nurseries and then to go on to 343 00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:55,760 Speaker 1: sell the tree, which I kind of the door. Since 344 00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:58,560 Speaker 1: nineteen sixty the Caribbean island of Dominica has made a 345 00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:02,200 Speaker 1: business out of selling the juice from Mexican limes, most 346 00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:05,800 Speaker 1: of which goes to the UK for settling in wooden. 347 00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:10,560 Speaker 1: That's followed by a clarifying process. It's bottled as Roses 348 00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:14,840 Speaker 1: Lime Juice in England, a product of L. Rose and Co. Ltd. 349 00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:19,720 Speaker 1: Any surplus is sold to soft drink producers. Nowadays L 350 00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:22,639 Speaker 1: Rose and Co. Ltd gets most of their lime juice 351 00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:25,800 Speaker 1: from Ghana. I have never heard of this product, but 352 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:29,400 Speaker 1: it sounds like it's very popular. Oh, it's it's pretty 353 00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:31,840 Speaker 1: I'm nearly positive you've seen a bottle of it. Um, 354 00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:35,280 Speaker 1: it's frequently sold. I think next to a bottle of grenadine, 355 00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:37,440 Speaker 1: like there's one that's quite green in one that's quite 356 00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:40,960 Speaker 1: red and um, and the am I thinking of the 357 00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:42,800 Speaker 1: right thing, and then the rappers kind of like red 358 00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:44,760 Speaker 1: and white and sort of floral and like old timey. 359 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:49,479 Speaker 1: Huh yeah, I just keept picturing a like a Perier bottle, 360 00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:51,479 Speaker 1: but as Rosie the riveter on front. And I'm not 361 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:55,200 Speaker 1: sure why that's what I picture. That's definitely not. That's 362 00:21:55,240 --> 00:21:59,760 Speaker 1: definitely not does even exists, if not, it should, it's 363 00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:02,560 Speaker 1: just the name is Rose. I'm very simple person in 364 00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:08,840 Speaker 1: some way. Well, yes, um, it's shelf stable and I 365 00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:13,760 Speaker 1: wouldn't say that it necessarily tastes like lime juice, but 366 00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:16,160 Speaker 1: it has a lime flavor. To it. For sure. It's 367 00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:19,080 Speaker 1: a lime flavor to it. It tends to be sweetened, 368 00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:22,800 Speaker 1: oh okay. Yeah, And since it's you know, pasteurized and 369 00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:28,760 Speaker 1: still shelf stable, it's not not as punchy. Oh okay. 370 00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:32,520 Speaker 1: It reminds me of another old wives tail, that drinking 371 00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:36,439 Speaker 1: sprite on a if you had an upset stomach, would like, 372 00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:41,240 Speaker 1: would like magically chill, chill your stomach out. Um. I 373 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:43,520 Speaker 1: know my mom used to give me ginger ale. Ginger 374 00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:46,600 Speaker 1: ginger does have a little bit of a stomach property, 375 00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:50,160 Speaker 1: but I don't think the ginger ale particularly helps. I 376 00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:57,440 Speaker 1: liked it. I was a fan, alright, alright, stepping back 377 00:22:57,440 --> 00:23:02,200 Speaker 1: a bit to be McNeil and Libby switched over a 378 00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:06,160 Speaker 1: hundred acres of previously dedicated to grape fruit of land 379 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:09,520 Speaker 1: previously dedicated to great fruit over to Persian and Tahitian lime. 380 00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:13,639 Speaker 1: That was in Florida. Yeah. Yes, Production increased six in 381 00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:16,320 Speaker 1: the seventies and the industry was valued at nine million 382 00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:20,240 Speaker 1: dollars in nineteen seventy nine, and Florida was the big 383 00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:22,719 Speaker 1: dog in terms of line production in the United States. 384 00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:27,919 Speaker 1: To this day, Florida produces about of America's lime crop, 385 00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:30,960 Speaker 1: as more immigrants from Latin America came to the US 386 00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:34,080 Speaker 1: and brought with them more dishes that utilized lime. The 387 00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:37,720 Speaker 1: citrus grew in popularity and demand went up. Then in 388 00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:42,640 Speaker 1: Florida's line production took a massive blow with Hurricane Andrew. 389 00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:46,040 Speaker 1: I was living at that time in South Florida. And 390 00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:48,160 Speaker 1: Andrew was supposed to hit my town of Coral Springs, 391 00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:50,840 Speaker 1: but it veered and hit much closer to Homestead, Um, 392 00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:55,640 Speaker 1: the seat of the South Florida lime industry. Yes, and 393 00:23:55,920 --> 00:24:01,400 Speaker 1: while this industry did mostly recover by in the meantime, 394 00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:06,639 Speaker 1: Mexico had filled that lime void. A disease decimated Florida 395 00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:10,840 Speaker 1: limes in two thousands, so that's only a year later. Um. 396 00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:13,960 Speaker 1: Seven years later, the industry was once again virtually non 397 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:17,040 Speaker 1: existent thanks to this disease. Not wanting to plant new 398 00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:21,000 Speaker 1: citrus trees only for them to get reinfected, they pivoted 399 00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:26,080 Speaker 1: to other crops like avocado. As often. There were just 400 00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:29,359 Speaker 1: four hundred acres of limes being grown in Florida. Time 401 00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:32,720 Speaker 1: Magazine compared that with forty one thousand acres of lemons 402 00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:35,600 Speaker 1: out in California. If you've noticed the price of limes 403 00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:39,280 Speaker 1: going up, that is part of why another part UM, 404 00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:42,360 Speaker 1: A couple of years ago, bad weather, crime, and disease 405 00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:45,240 Speaker 1: plagued little lime crop in Mexico, where the U S 406 00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:48,400 Speaker 1: gets most of our lives, most of being a whopping 407 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:52,399 Speaker 1: nineties seven per cent, and that drove up the price 408 00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:55,720 Speaker 1: of limes. For example, a forty pound box of limes 409 00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:59,840 Speaker 1: went up from twenty dollars to a hundred and twenty dollars. Yeah, 410 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:03,679 Speaker 1: and that organized criminal activity part is is a really 411 00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:07,520 Speaker 1: huge factor in that UM. As of about the crime 412 00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:12,080 Speaker 1: cartel Los Caballeros templary yos uh in English, that would 413 00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:16,199 Speaker 1: be the Knights Templar. They were facing increasing difficulties in 414 00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:20,719 Speaker 1: the drug trade, so they began extorting lime farmers and 415 00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:25,359 Speaker 1: exporters in Mexico, UM really violently. UM. It's it's a 416 00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:29,479 Speaker 1: bloody and an ongoing story. Though the violence and industry 417 00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:34,119 Speaker 1: impact perhaps peaked around. The cartel has since switched its 418 00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:38,040 Speaker 1: sights to avocados UM more recently. And that is a 419 00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:42,480 Speaker 1: whole other story that is terrifying that I would love 420 00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:46,600 Speaker 1: to go into someday. It's it's it's very fascinating. Yeah, 421 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:50,159 Speaker 1: and I when we were deciding on this episode, I 422 00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:52,040 Speaker 1: have to say, one of the first things I think 423 00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:54,520 Speaker 1: about when I think about Lines and avocado is this 424 00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:57,280 Speaker 1: like I couldn't I didn't remember the details, but I 425 00:25:57,359 --> 00:25:59,760 Speaker 1: knew at one time, like the price of limes had 426 00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:01,520 Speaker 1: gone way up and there was this fear like what 427 00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:05,240 Speaker 1: are we gonna do about limes and the things we said, 428 00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:10,960 Speaker 1: But I remembered the crime in Mexico, So yeah, should Yeah, 429 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:13,840 Speaker 1: I would love to have a whole depressing episode on 430 00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:18,080 Speaker 1: that sometime. I'm sure we shall. Avocado has been on 431 00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:20,520 Speaker 1: our list for a long time to cover it has been. Yeah, 432 00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:34,080 Speaker 1: I would organized crime around avocados globally is really a thing. Yeah, yep. Well, 433 00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:38,879 Speaker 1: well on that note, Um, that about rounds up our 434 00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:42,600 Speaker 1: Lime episode. It was, Um, we do have a little 435 00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:45,000 Speaker 1: bit more for you, but first we've got one more 436 00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:56,600 Speaker 1: quick break for a word from our sponsor, and we're back. 437 00:26:56,600 --> 00:27:00,879 Speaker 1: Thank you sponsoring, Yes, thank you, and we're back with them. 438 00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:11,000 Speaker 1: You know, sometimes I just randomly wear shirts that are 439 00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:16,280 Speaker 1: like it kind of freaks me out. And today I 440 00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:20,320 Speaker 1: wore a shirt that's sprite based and I never wear 441 00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:23,120 Speaker 1: the shirt, and then we did this episode and it's 442 00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:25,760 Speaker 1: got like a lime on the back. Yeah, it was 443 00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:28,600 Speaker 1: just something find a little grain in the back of 444 00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:31,320 Speaker 1: her Yeah. Anyway, that listener mail was inspired by the 445 00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:36,240 Speaker 1: like Efferfessnce. Yeah, okay, I've had spright. Well, I gave 446 00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:41,600 Speaker 1: up soft drinks and what seven so a minute ago 447 00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:45,240 Speaker 1: five up? So yeah, it's a long time on a 448 00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:50,160 Speaker 1: deck because I am easily manipulated. Aside from rock Star. 449 00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:53,919 Speaker 1: That's not a soft drink, right, it's only and I 450 00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:56,760 Speaker 1: will allow it if it's mixed without call okay, which 451 00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:58,879 Speaker 1: today as we record, this is National Gin and Tonic. 452 00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:01,520 Speaker 1: Oh it is. I think So I got an email 453 00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:04,280 Speaker 1: about it. They knew. They were like, you know, who 454 00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:13,520 Speaker 1: needs to hear about this? A yep um, So Katie wrote, 455 00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:16,399 Speaker 1: just if where I and the pretzel episode When you 456 00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:20,760 Speaker 1: said Pennsylvania consume the most pretzels, I thought you said Pretsylvania, 457 00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:24,280 Speaker 1: and do not tell me you didn't. We should have 458 00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:30,400 Speaker 1: that's a missed opportunity Pretsylvania. Yes, I mean I think 459 00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:33,919 Speaker 1: they should rename the state. I that is absolutely a 460 00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:36,399 Speaker 1: T shirt. I have an email about t shirts to 461 00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:39,200 Speaker 1: write to our T shirt humans this very afternoon, and 462 00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:44,120 Speaker 1: I am Pretsylvania. This is happening, y'all. It's gonna have 463 00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:48,960 Speaker 1: some kind of vampirety. We gotta think about vampire pretzels. 464 00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:54,760 Speaker 1: Oh boy, all right, well they could be a little 465 00:28:54,800 --> 00:29:00,720 Speaker 1: like like like the little bats. Anyway, Um we both 466 00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:04,520 Speaker 1: just went to a strange but similar place. Any okay, 467 00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:07,360 Speaker 1: all right, um, Ron wrote, I just finished listening to 468 00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:10,000 Speaker 1: your New Orleans series and I really enjoyed it. I'm 469 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:12,200 Speaker 1: heading there in June for a large family reunion and 470 00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:14,760 Speaker 1: love knowing what I'm getting into. My mom grew up 471 00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:16,840 Speaker 1: there in a family of ten kids, so a reunion 472 00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:19,920 Speaker 1: should have well over one hundred. Oh goodness, I've got 473 00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:22,520 Speaker 1: such a small family. Okay. I've only been there three 474 00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:24,920 Speaker 1: times in my life, as I've lived in California. The 475 00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:26,880 Speaker 1: last time twenty years ago, and the first time I 476 00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:29,000 Speaker 1: was there for Marti Gras. My aunt took me to 477 00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:30,760 Speaker 1: some of the parades, and I would have never guessed 478 00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:32,360 Speaker 1: I would have the time of my life being out 479 00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:35,520 Speaker 1: in the cold catching worthless trinkets. And yes, some of 480 00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:37,560 Speaker 1: my young cousins had the box on the ladder to 481 00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:40,400 Speaker 1: watch the parade. This time, I'll be going out for 482 00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:42,840 Speaker 1: some nice meals. My cousin works for the Brennan family, 483 00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:45,120 Speaker 1: so it should be more fun than I'm used to lately. 484 00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:48,360 Speaker 1: At the reunion, we'll be eating po boys, crawfish, boils, 485 00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:51,640 Speaker 1: and gumbo. I've included my aunt Ruth's gumbo recipe. We 486 00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:59,040 Speaker 1: love recipes. Thank you, yes, thank you, goodness. I Um, 487 00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:02,440 Speaker 1: I love this and I love the catching of worthless 488 00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:05,600 Speaker 1: trinkets because as somebody who's really really competitive, and I 489 00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:10,640 Speaker 1: didn't like candy like the beads at parades, I would 490 00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:13,040 Speaker 1: fight like I would fight for candy that I knew 491 00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:14,560 Speaker 1: I was just going to give away later. But the 492 00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:18,520 Speaker 1: thrill of it and like having more than everyone else. Yeah, 493 00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:25,800 Speaker 1: huh heart, I'm getting excited just thinking about it. You're like, yeah, 494 00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:27,720 Speaker 1: I was afraid I can go to and not get 495 00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:33,360 Speaker 1: in trouble for taking stuff away from kids in general. 496 00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:36,760 Speaker 1: In a in Atlanta, I think you're not allowed to 497 00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:40,840 Speaker 1: to toss things off of They have to hand it 498 00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:42,880 Speaker 1: to you. Yeah. As I found out one day when 499 00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:47,160 Speaker 1: I rather tipsily joined um the Halloween parade and little 500 00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:50,360 Speaker 1: five Points I was there. Yeah, oh that's right, Yeah 501 00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:54,360 Speaker 1: yeah yeah, but I quickly was set right. Um, I 502 00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:58,840 Speaker 1: think only only one small child was vaguely emotionally upset 503 00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:02,240 Speaker 1: by the experience. I still feel bad about it. I 504 00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:04,920 Speaker 1: genuinely am upset that I might have upset that little girl. 505 00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:09,560 Speaker 1: You created an enemy that day. She's plotting your demise. 506 00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:16,440 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Tiny Princess Fairy. Yes, she's rio remorse. I 507 00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:20,920 Speaker 1: can see it. Don't build whatever super collider thing you're 508 00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:26,120 Speaker 1: doing to destroy her. I would greatly prefer it. I'll 509 00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:30,120 Speaker 1: come hand you candy gently anytime you want. We do 510 00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:31,920 Speaker 1: have a lot of free candy here at the office. 511 00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:35,040 Speaker 1: We do, and it is sometimes it's the full size 512 00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:38,880 Speaker 1: bars and I feel like rollballer. I know, I look 513 00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:46,520 Speaker 1: around as if this can't be true anyway. 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