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Speaker 1: We're going all the way back to season one for

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Speaker 1: this one. Man, this is a Knuckleheads classic, the one

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Speaker 1: of the true and last OG's in the league. Man,

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Speaker 1: we got u du Donnas has og during this episode. Man,

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Speaker 1: we talked about all things Miami, got some real good

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Speaker 1: pat Riley stories. We touched on d Wade because that

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Speaker 1: year he was in his last season, doing the tour

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Speaker 1: today getting love from Heat Nation all over in just

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Speaker 1: the whole general you know, the NBA fraternity. He got

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Speaker 1: his own section in arena section three oh five. Man,

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Speaker 1: how is it for us still to see U d

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Speaker 1: having this impact on the team in a different way,

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Speaker 1: but still being extremely impactful for that team and the

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Speaker 1: culture over there in Miami.

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Speaker 2: Man, it's just crazy. Man, we seeing the last of

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Speaker 2: a dying breed man here Og. But it's been a

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Speaker 2: beautiful career while. Man, he won championships, He helped win championships.

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Speaker 2: A kid that's from there and get all that from

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Speaker 2: a team like that's like us.

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Speaker 3: I can't wait to see the movie.

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Speaker 1: He the truest meaning of going from underdogs to being

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Speaker 1: the hometown hero and all that.

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Speaker 3: Like this, man, when you when.

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Speaker 1: I first met ud back in nineteen ninety six at

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Speaker 1: Adidas Camp Bro. He was huge. He was not the

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Speaker 1: dude you see today. He went worked on his body,

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Speaker 1: changed his whole everything. He had a twenty year career

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Speaker 1: with the same team that he tells him being impactful

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Speaker 1: for championships and being a part of a culture that

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Speaker 1: is one of the best in the business. And like

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Speaker 1: his jersey is going up in the arena and he

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Speaker 1: Ud is truly the OG and mister Miami Man. We

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Speaker 1: aired this episode on April sixteen, twoenty nineteen. Y'all definitely

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Speaker 1: need to tap in and check out the real true og.

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Speaker 3: You Donnas has first question.

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Speaker 2: We always like kind of started off like this, who

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Speaker 3: Was like, oh, he got all them on me in

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Speaker 3: the league.

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Speaker 2: In the league the first person you was like, man,

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Speaker 2: this is a high level game right here.

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Speaker 3: This ain't college no more. Man. One time I had

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Speaker 3: to Gonmello and right this was Denver. Yeah it was

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Speaker 3: with the Knicks. Okay, they hit us. I think I

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Speaker 3: don't know if we won the game or not, but

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Speaker 3: I know he had fifty that night, but I didn't

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Speaker 3: got on him. You feel like you got something, yeah, man,

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Speaker 3: but you know how that is. Man. You hate to

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Speaker 3: be the one that coach put in and cut the

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Speaker 3: water off somebody already cooking with greed like you were fireman,

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Speaker 3: put the fire got it too. They was I wasn't ready.

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Speaker 3: I thought I was ready. He was cooking with grease.

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Speaker 3: You know, everybody know Millow put that ball in the hole.

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Speaker 3: Now Miami, he was. He was in New York and

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Speaker 3: credit do I mean? We threw everything but the kitchen

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Speaker 1: You tuned into the knuckleheads were out here in Miami. Man,

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Speaker 1: we're telling with mister Miami my main man. You Donna's

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Speaker 1: has the heat life for Major Miami represented man's honor

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Speaker 1: having you with appreciate the manes man caves.

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Speaker 3: Ye appreciate y'all. Man, appreciate y'all. Man, thank y'all for

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Speaker 3: That's when I knew. I was like, this is fact

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Speaker 3: Can't call me soft, and you can't disrespect where I'm from.

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Speaker 3: I did deal with a lot of losers that just sucked.

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Speaker 3: We come from an authentic old Jeek standpoint, but it's

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Speaker 3: Hm hmm. It ain't been too many I'll tell you

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Speaker 3: So before even getting into that series, having a game

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Speaker 3: I had got tired of my homeboys telling me, Man,

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Speaker 3: homeboys do, boy, you know, yeah, they gotta go home

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Speaker 2: I always liked that. I can't let nobody embarrass me

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Speaker 2: ROAs exactly any type of highlight to this day right now,

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Speaker 2: they be like, oh, yeah, I've seen you right here

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Speaker 3: That you want to talk to me like that. You

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Speaker 2: Your high school, I can't even think of the name.

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Speaker 3: Of Miami Senior Stinger read Miami Senior High School. Respect Champs?

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Speaker 3: Why did champs? Why did you choose that high school? Okay,

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Speaker 3: We wanted all the smoke. But noah, we you know,

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Speaker 3: I was born. I was born in Miami actually, uh

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Speaker 3: But I went to Miami High. Played for Frank Manin Man,

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Speaker 3: it was the best decision I ever made, best decision

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Speaker 3: I ever made. Man. I not only got you know,

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Speaker 3: You played with Steve Blake.

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Speaker 2: I played with Steve Blake with the Portland Trail High School. Man.

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Speaker 3: You know, we kicked Blake out the gym. He used

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Speaker 3: Everything happen for a reason. But I showed whish that

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Speaker 3: There's a law that you're not allowed to play games

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I ain't want no proposed came to Chicago. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: we supposed to came up there in Illinois. It's a

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Speaker 2: We couldn't go two hundred miles outside of our state,

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Speaker 2: Okay to play anybody. Yeah, we were supposed to go

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Speaker 3: To the tur We wanted all the smoke man like

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Speaker 3: all that. Listen, hey, listen, I was about fifty pounds

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Speaker 2: Now you came up in the circuit like we came

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Speaker 2: remember all them players, the rankings and all the players.

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Speaker 3: Just tell us like this is why I first met

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Speaker 3: you about camps and stuff, because you know it'd be

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Speaker 3: in camps it would be them floor the boys and them.

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Speaker 2: Texas boys and some Shottown boys. The midleois bore them,

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Speaker 2: bought them be more boys and Cali boys.

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, it was like it was all

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Speaker 2: But tell us, like the circle and the players that

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Speaker 3: He dope, I met you, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: And I first met him and we actually clicked and vibe,

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Speaker 3: How did that feel?

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Speaker 3: It was crazy? Because the first NBA jersey I ever

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Speaker 1: thing he said, he said that Damn Pat boy, he said,

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Speaker 1: damn Pat, and like tell me like one of the

432
00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:43,840
Speaker 1: craziest like but you epitome of Pat.

433
00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:46,159
Speaker 3: The coaches. The coach is real. You know what I

434
00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:48,199
Speaker 3: mean when people talk about it and you hear about it,

435
00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:50,840
Speaker 3: the coach is real. You know. He believes in being

436
00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:55,280
Speaker 3: the hardest working team unliked a little nasty, you know,

437
00:19:55,320 --> 00:19:57,960
Speaker 3: he believes in that coach and that coaching has been successful.

438
00:19:58,400 --> 00:20:00,320
Speaker 3: So you know their standards that come with it. That's

439
00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:03,080
Speaker 3: expected to be the best athlete you can possibly be.

440
00:20:03,119 --> 00:20:05,119
Speaker 3: You got to be in shape first, and foremost, and

441
00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:07,160
Speaker 3: he believed in that, you know what I'm saying. So

442
00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:10,000
Speaker 3: for me, you know, I don't know nothing else, you

443
00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:12,320
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. And there's times where I'll be like, boy,

444
00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:14,440
Speaker 3: by the fact, to day, I can't eat nothing. To night,

445
00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:16,160
Speaker 3: I want to eat this. I want to eat that.

446
00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:18,480
Speaker 3: You know, I want to have a sip of this,

447
00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:20,159
Speaker 3: So I have a sip of that, you know what

448
00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:22,640
Speaker 3: I'm saying. But you know, I don't think that if

449
00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:25,080
Speaker 3: I wasn't as disciplined as I am now. You know

450
00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:27,040
Speaker 3: what I'm saying, maybe sixteen years later I might not

451
00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:29,320
Speaker 3: be here having the same success that I have. It's

452
00:20:29,359 --> 00:20:30,920
Speaker 3: two sides to it. You know what I'm saying. You

453
00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:32,960
Speaker 3: got to give up something. You know what I'm saying,

454
00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:35,399
Speaker 3: You can't have you can't eat it too all the time.

455
00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:38,160
Speaker 3: Like you know what I'm saying, Hey, you can't get

456
00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:40,240
Speaker 3: it too all the time. Sometimes you got to psychofice

457
00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:42,800
Speaker 3: certain things. Man. So you know, I don't regret none

458
00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:44,399
Speaker 3: of that. Man, I got three rings. I'm gonna leave

459
00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:46,600
Speaker 3: and reabout the organization. I done did something right, and

460
00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:48,000
Speaker 3: he's had something to do with that. You know what

461
00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:49,359
Speaker 3: I'm saying. I've had a lot to do with it,

462
00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:51,119
Speaker 3: but he's definitely had something to do with that success

463
00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:53,600
Speaker 3: as well. Like I tell I tell them all the time,

464
00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:54,760
Speaker 3: but not just him, but.

465
00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:57,560
Speaker 1: Like when we go out to dinner, when we out

466
00:20:57,600 --> 00:20:59,639
Speaker 1: on the road, or when we're going out, like if

467
00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:02,720
Speaker 1: we're going to a club, whatever we're doing, like you

468
00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:06,000
Speaker 1: literally are being conscious.

469
00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:08,120
Speaker 3: About it, like yo, yeah, it's a lifestyle.

470
00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:14,040
Speaker 1: Like forget like we went this was me, d right

471
00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:17,000
Speaker 1: and jo and you know we came like that was

472
00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:19,840
Speaker 1: the first time. Like we over we over there all

473
00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:24,560
Speaker 1: start break hanging out and we all basically policing each

474
00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:25,240
Speaker 1: other like yo.

475
00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:27,679
Speaker 3: Bro, I don't know what you're doing with that that right?

476
00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:32,119
Speaker 1: Like bro, then we all get back and go straight

477
00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:35,560
Speaker 1: from the plane to the same ride the bike and

478
00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:37,400
Speaker 1: do all of that because we know and first thing

479
00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:39,160
Speaker 1: in the morning, you about you know what you're about

480
00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:39,480
Speaker 1: to get.

481
00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:41,680
Speaker 3: It's a lifestyle, bro. At the end of the day,

482
00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:44,000
Speaker 3: I'm locked in, Like regardless of whether you know, my

483
00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:46,400
Speaker 3: career ends this year, next year, whenever it is, I'm

484
00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:48,760
Speaker 3: I'm gonna continue to live my life, you know, like

485
00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:50,680
Speaker 3: this because I see the results of being healthy. You

486
00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:52,760
Speaker 3: know what, I'm saying, so you know, like I said,

487
00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:55,119
Speaker 3: you know, it ain't for everybody, but you know I'm

488
00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:55,920
Speaker 3: gonna sticking with it.

489
00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:59,159
Speaker 1: I credit them for like how I changed my body.

490
00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:01,439
Speaker 1: I remember that, saying I remember that, bro, I remember

491
00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:05,680
Speaker 1: that you saw me beforehand and the entire process literally like.

492
00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:08,200
Speaker 3: He him and James Jones was in the gym with me.

493
00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:13,080
Speaker 3: How many did I throw up? I thought I was

494
00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:13,960
Speaker 3: about to be done.

495
00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:16,440
Speaker 1: I think took the picture and was like, he gave

496
00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:17,959
Speaker 1: me a gate rad and I'm sitting there.

497
00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:21,320
Speaker 3: He was like, all right, you ready to finish. I'm like, yeah,

498
00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:23,240
Speaker 3: I'm like, I remember the first time you ran. I

499
00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:24,840
Speaker 3: think you came up there and I think I ended up.

500
00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:27,320
Speaker 1: Told me you was like, bro, you still should be

501
00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:29,480
Speaker 1: down there on the trade. Man, you shouldn't come up here.

502
00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:31,359
Speaker 3: Like you ain't. I was like, I was likely, ain'tun

503
00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:34,200
Speaker 3: jump up in here like this hip. I said, no,

504
00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:35,399
Speaker 3: you don't want to jump in this fire like this.

505
00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:37,560
Speaker 3: Q rich you might will go ahead and going downstairs

506
00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:39,480
Speaker 3: first for real? You like you start out on the

507
00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:42,639
Speaker 3: traad like just I'm like, man, I'm mucket jumped on

508
00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:49,600
Speaker 3: that throwed up right there. And then Bill came into

509
00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:52,800
Speaker 3: the picture man, but it was all water. I don't

510
00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:54,480
Speaker 3: know what he did. I don't know what he was doing.

511
00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:56,239
Speaker 3: I don't know if he thought he was you need

512
00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:58,400
Speaker 3: to highdrate some mother man, throw up all water. That's

513
00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:00,400
Speaker 3: the damn that's the first thing not to do. Drink

514
00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:02,920
Speaker 3: all that damn water when you're about to come up here.

515
00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:09,840
Speaker 3: But yeah, you get hydrated during the workout, not before, Bro.

516
00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:12,840
Speaker 1: Him and him and JJ was looking at that stuff.

517
00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:15,680
Speaker 1: I remember one that you dc ain' Bro, I ain't

518
00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:17,600
Speaker 1: even gonna too much by a lie to you, he said.

519
00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:18,520
Speaker 3: Right now.

520
00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:20,520
Speaker 1: They just seeing how far they could go with you, Bro,

521
00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:22,200
Speaker 1: like he like they doing everything.

522
00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:23,920
Speaker 3: It's just like because it's a mindset.

523
00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:24,080
Speaker 2: Man.

524
00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:27,200
Speaker 3: The things we do, you know before a training camp

525
00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:29,480
Speaker 3: is you know we do you know the conditioning test,

526
00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:32,240
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. And it's not really basketball

527
00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:35,320
Speaker 3: oriented because everybody know that play basketball know that the

528
00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:37,760
Speaker 3: getting basketball shape. You just got to play basketball. You

529
00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:39,560
Speaker 3: can run on a treadmill, you can run sprints all

530
00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:42,080
Speaker 3: you want, you until you play basketball, you ain't gonna

531
00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:45,359
Speaker 3: get in basketball shape. So this test is just completely mental.

532
00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:47,320
Speaker 3: So I was just telling you rish Man that he

533
00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:49,280
Speaker 3: was going through it. All I was like, Man, it's mental, bro,

534
00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:51,680
Speaker 3: It's mental. You know what I'm saying. Just that's that's

535
00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:53,320
Speaker 3: what it is. You know what I'm saying. And when

536
00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:55,720
Speaker 3: I get mad, when I feel like somebody pushing me

537
00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:57,679
Speaker 3: in or something to do. Like, the last thing I'm

538
00:23:57,680 --> 00:24:00,159
Speaker 3: gonna let you see is like me bending down and

539
00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:02,000
Speaker 3: all tied. So if you want to keep runn I'm

540
00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:03,560
Speaker 3: gonna keep running. I'm gonna be tired of her, but

541
00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:05,600
Speaker 3: I ain't gonna let you get the satisfaction of seeing

542
00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:08,359
Speaker 3: me bent down. I can't stand up no more and

543
00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:09,600
Speaker 3: all that.

544
00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:11,800
Speaker 1: How proud was that when I stopped throwing up like

545
00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:14,840
Speaker 1: everybody like today the first day?

546
00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:19,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, because because because at the end of the day,

547
00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:20,800
Speaker 3: we all been there. I had to lose a lot

548
00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:22,280
Speaker 3: of way too, So I've been there, so I know

549
00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:24,600
Speaker 3: once you finally get to that point where you cross

550
00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:26,919
Speaker 3: that bridge, you know what I'm saying, and you you

551
00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:29,480
Speaker 3: see the results in yourself athletically. You know what I'm saying,

552
00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:31,239
Speaker 3: and you see the way you're changing as far as

553
00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:33,560
Speaker 3: your stamina and all that. Man, Like, I know how

554
00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:35,080
Speaker 3: that feel. You know what I'm saying. I lost all

555
00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:36,879
Speaker 3: my weight. I did a three sixty. It was just

556
00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:38,760
Speaker 3: different for me just because I came from Europe. So

557
00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:41,240
Speaker 3: when I came back, I had been gone for nine months,

558
00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:43,760
Speaker 3: so people seeing like a whole other person. I actually

559
00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:46,120
Speaker 3: watched you rich as he was going through the process,

560
00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:47,320
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. So I know how I

561
00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:49,439
Speaker 3: feel when you cross that bridge, Like, damn boy, I

562
00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:50,600
Speaker 3: got that monkey off my back.

563
00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:53,440
Speaker 2: Like I was proud of Draymond Green for shipping that

564
00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:56,200
Speaker 2: baby fat off him and getting more toned.

565
00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:56,560
Speaker 3: Yeah.

566
00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:59,959
Speaker 2: Yeah, he became a better player when he toned himself

567
00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:03,200
Speaker 2: up and he moved better and moved around and more.

568
00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:06,920
Speaker 3: He definitely moved did it too, Yeah, he definitely move

569
00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:09,919
Speaker 3: the defense, Know what I'm saying. Yeah, Yeah, Cavil Love too.

570
00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:11,800
Speaker 3: K Love like a whole different player than what he

571
00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:14,120
Speaker 3: was in Minnesota here. You know what I'm saying, It's

572
00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:16,720
Speaker 3: like a whole different player. The thing is once you

573
00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:19,199
Speaker 3: lose it, keeping it off though, because that becomes you know,

574
00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:21,520
Speaker 3: easy to do is just let it come back on,

575
00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:23,280
Speaker 3: especially if you know if you were tired and walk

576
00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:25,760
Speaker 3: away from the game. That's that's the biggest situation that

577
00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:26,760
Speaker 3: you gotta probably face.

578
00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:31,800
Speaker 2: What's like a funny rookie story or a funny story

579
00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:34,879
Speaker 2: with Shack that team with Shack them, or just a

580
00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:37,159
Speaker 2: funny story that you remember just coming to lead like

581
00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:41,280
Speaker 2: a KD told the story where him and James Harden

582
00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:44,400
Speaker 2: and Westbrook was on the same team and Nick Robinson

583
00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:47,600
Speaker 2: got on the team and stole James harden car while

584
00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:49,679
Speaker 2: he was in practice and parked it around the corner

585
00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:53,280
Speaker 2: and started taking pictures ghost riding the whip stuff and

586
00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:55,480
Speaker 2: James came out extra mad and that was like the

587
00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:57,880
Speaker 2: first controversial moment that they team had.

588
00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:00,000
Speaker 3: Like what's like a funny store. I know y'all got

589
00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:02,720
Speaker 3: with Shocky. One funny story is when him and the

590
00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:04,880
Speaker 3: Robs got into it. Everybody know, you know what I'm saying.

591
00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:07,800
Speaker 3: Before Shock ended rob Yeah, you know he wrote about

592
00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:10,320
Speaker 3: that thinking his book before he ended up leaving us

593
00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:12,359
Speaker 3: and going to Phoenix, him and Robbins had got into it.

594
00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:15,879
Speaker 3: So it was like face to face, you know, confrontation.

595
00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:17,560
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. There's just a lot of

596
00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:20,359
Speaker 3: talking back and forth, and you know, nobody wasn't backing down,

597
00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:23,120
Speaker 3: and you know, me being the stand up guy I am.

598
00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:25,240
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, I just stepped in the middle.

599
00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:26,840
Speaker 3: I was like, come on, big fella, Man, you just

600
00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:29,080
Speaker 3: go ahead, big fella. It ain't worth it. Ain't worth it. Man.

601
00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:30,600
Speaker 3: I ain't never had a man push me like I

602
00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:35,200
Speaker 3: was a little boy. No, I ain't gonna hit him,

603
00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:39,320
Speaker 3: but that bro I flew about five feet and at

604
00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:40,879
Speaker 3: that point I said, Man, I ain't going back. I

605
00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:42,920
Speaker 3: ain't That ain't my fight. I'm out of it. I

606
00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:44,639
Speaker 3: ain't got it. He ain't gonna be pushing on me

607
00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:46,320
Speaker 3: like that, big feeling. It was too easy for you

608
00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:48,200
Speaker 3: to push on me like that. I ain't like that.

609
00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:50,440
Speaker 3: I ain't like that. I got to a league.

610
00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:52,600
Speaker 2: I was a book ninety five soaking with man.

611
00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:54,320
Speaker 3: I was I was too thirty at that time. That

612
00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:57,000
Speaker 3: man pushed me like a little boy. Heard man, I

613
00:26:57,040 --> 00:26:59,000
Speaker 3: was too thirty, man, It's just like I was too

614
00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:00,920
Speaker 3: third demail. That man pushed me out of the way

615
00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:03,120
Speaker 3: like a little boy. Can you imagine what he would

616
00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:09,840
Speaker 3: have did? The pat man great. That was funny with

617
00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:11,919
Speaker 3: me and d Wade oh Man, we had a lot

618
00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:13,960
Speaker 3: of funny stories. Man, We got a lot of funny stories.

619
00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:16,000
Speaker 3: But I remember one time somebody had stole his car

620
00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:20,840
Speaker 3: and he had a chain in the car. So he

621
00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:23,439
Speaker 3: told me he found out somebody stole his car. So

622
00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:25,240
Speaker 3: I say, listen, do you want me to find out

623
00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:27,000
Speaker 3: what's going on? You know this, that and the third.

624
00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:30,520
Speaker 3: So I get a phone call, so my homeboy tell me, okay,

625
00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:32,320
Speaker 3: such and we found out where the chain that we

626
00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:33,960
Speaker 3: found out where the car that asked the way he

627
00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:36,360
Speaker 3: wanted the chain in it. Whatever. Whatever. So I come

628
00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:38,840
Speaker 3: to the wade. I say, listen, man, my homeboys found

629
00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:40,400
Speaker 3: out who got a chance. I think he found a car.

630
00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:41,840
Speaker 3: That's what happened. He found a car, but he didn't

631
00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:43,920
Speaker 3: get his jury back. So I had found out where

632
00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:45,760
Speaker 3: the jury was at. So I said, listen, man, my homeboys,

633
00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:47,600
Speaker 3: find out where your jury at. Where you want your

634
00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:50,040
Speaker 3: jury back? He was like yeah, okay. I was like cool.

635
00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:51,480
Speaker 3: I say, I'm gonna get the jury back. I said,

636
00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:53,800
Speaker 3: but listen, I don't know, like however they get it back?

637
00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:56,080
Speaker 3: Is how they get it back? No, no, no, I

638
00:27:56,080 --> 00:28:02,440
Speaker 3: don't want to back on. I don't want to Yeah

639
00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:04,959
Speaker 3: you yeah, you will. I don't want it back, you will.

640
00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:08,160
Speaker 3: We don't want it back. Yeah, we don't want it back.

641
00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:10,480
Speaker 3: We don't want it back. But yeah, that was real funny.

642
00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:12,720
Speaker 3: But I mean, we got tons of stories. Man, that's

643
00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:15,440
Speaker 3: my dog. Man. You know what I'm saying. Like man,

644
00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:17,440
Speaker 3: Like I said the Waye's like a brother me. Man,

645
00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:19,480
Speaker 3: he called me five in the morning. Man, I ain't

646
00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:21,320
Speaker 3: asking no questions. I'm there, you know what I mean.

647
00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:23,639
Speaker 3: So you know that's just a relationship we got. You

648
00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:26,119
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. That's what's up. I get along with.

649
00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:29,480
Speaker 3: There's a lot of Chicago people, man, career. Man, it

650
00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:31,320
Speaker 3: be natural. Man, it just I don't know, you know

651
00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:34,400
Speaker 3: what I'm saying, but it be natural. He from Chicago,

652
00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:35,360
Speaker 3: you from Miami.

653
00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:38,160
Speaker 2: Y'all been on the long journey and like y'all just

654
00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:42,400
Speaker 2: became brothers from being with this organization for so long,

655
00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:45,719
Speaker 2: winning championships, having the up and down years, having the

656
00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:48,560
Speaker 2: whole change, and you looking around and the only person

657
00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:50,520
Speaker 2: that you see is each other.

658
00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:52,680
Speaker 3: Tell us the relationship, you like.

659
00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:56,120
Speaker 2: That brotherhood and how it grew when the first time

660
00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:58,480
Speaker 2: you met the way to where it is now.

661
00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:01,200
Speaker 3: So the first time we met was been in that

662
00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:03,200
Speaker 3: whole summer together, you know, working out with the heat,

663
00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:05,320
Speaker 3: getting ready for some league. You know, obviously they got

664
00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:07,040
Speaker 3: guys coming in and getting ready to play some league.

665
00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:09,000
Speaker 3: So you know, we pretty much spent that whole summer

666
00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:11,280
Speaker 3: together working out. You know what I'm saying, going to

667
00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:13,560
Speaker 3: the gym together and Q know how the off season

668
00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:15,760
Speaker 3: workouts schedule is, you know what I'm saying. So in

669
00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:18,280
Speaker 3: the morning, we'll be the track, we'll be conditioning. After

670
00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:20,080
Speaker 3: that we would end up to the gym, we'll be

671
00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:22,840
Speaker 3: weight room, and then on the court workouts. After the

672
00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:25,120
Speaker 3: weight room, on the court workouts, we'll go play pick up.

673
00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:27,360
Speaker 3: At that time, we'll go play pick up. We'll play

674
00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:29,880
Speaker 3: at the arena, and then later on that afternoon we'll

675
00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:32,880
Speaker 3: probably go play at Alonzo Morning's youth center. That was

676
00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:35,200
Speaker 3: over time. So we played a lot of basketball and

677
00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:37,080
Speaker 3: hung out of a lot together. Both of us had

678
00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:38,840
Speaker 3: kids out a young age. We both under we had

679
00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:41,400
Speaker 3: a lot in common. Both of us had kids already.

680
00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:43,040
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. I had a son, He

681
00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:44,600
Speaker 3: had a son. You know what I'm saying. My son's

682
00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:47,240
Speaker 3: actually a little older. You know, both five mothers, you know,

683
00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:50,080
Speaker 3: had struggles as kids with you know, different things that

684
00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:52,440
Speaker 3: they had to go through. So we related on that level,

685
00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:55,080
Speaker 3: and our mothers end up actually, you know, bonding on

686
00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:57,400
Speaker 3: a lot of different levels. And being good friends over

687
00:29:57,440 --> 00:29:59,360
Speaker 3: some of the things that they dealt with. So she

688
00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:00,960
Speaker 3: ended up befriend and to my mother, you know, but

689
00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:03,480
Speaker 3: before my mother passed, So you know that was another

690
00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:05,840
Speaker 3: thing that you know, it was different from me because

691
00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:08,240
Speaker 3: our relationship went beyond just me and him. You know,

692
00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:10,680
Speaker 3: our mother's actually made a bond, and before my mother

693
00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:12,960
Speaker 3: passed away, I know missus Wade was a real good

694
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:15,040
Speaker 3: friend of her. So you know, it was just so

695
00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:16,920
Speaker 3: many things that we bonded on so many levels, and

696
00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:19,440
Speaker 3: we had a lot of success together. And man, regardless

697
00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:21,680
Speaker 3: of how we both translate the way we get to

698
00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:23,920
Speaker 3: the success, we both work hard and try to get

699
00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:25,520
Speaker 3: to the same goal, you know what I'm saying, we

700
00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:27,880
Speaker 3: just do it differently. And the thing about having good

701
00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:29,720
Speaker 3: friends in this world and we all understand that, Like

702
00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:31,840
Speaker 3: I said, Q was being from Chicago when I first

703
00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:34,000
Speaker 3: met him, and how we vibe is to understand that

704
00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:36,120
Speaker 3: people gonna be different. Man, Everybody ain't gonna be like you,

705
00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:37,840
Speaker 3: but you gotta respect that, you know what I'm saying.

706
00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:39,600
Speaker 3: Everybody ain't gonna be like you, Everybody ain't gonna talk

707
00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:43,000
Speaker 3: like you. Everybody's gonna like you. Just understanding that first

708
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:45,920
Speaker 3: about him. Then he understood that about me. But understand

709
00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:47,840
Speaker 3: that regardless of that, we're different. You know what I'm saying.

710
00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:49,400
Speaker 3: We come from a lot of similar things and we

711
00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:52,200
Speaker 3: got similar goals in life, so that was just natural

712
00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:54,400
Speaker 3: for us. Man. Like I sit here with y'all today,

713
00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:56,800
Speaker 3: Me and Q ain't played together in a few years,

714
00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:58,120
Speaker 3: and I ain't seeing you in a few years. But

715
00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:01,840
Speaker 3: when we bump into each other, it's always love, always love.

716
00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:03,360
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. You pick up where you

717
00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:04,880
Speaker 3: left off, and that's how you know what it is.

718
00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:06,920
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. You don't see somebody for

719
00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:08,520
Speaker 3: a few weeks, a couple of days and they start

720
00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:11,160
Speaker 3: aking funny, then I mean, you know where that is exactly.

721
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:13,120
Speaker 3: You shouldn't feel no type of way because I don't.

722
00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:15,320
Speaker 3: So if you do, then what's up with you? Though?

723
00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:18,320
Speaker 3: Like what's your You know what I mean? Where you

724
00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:21,200
Speaker 3: at with it? Because I'm good We gucci still as

725
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:25,040
Speaker 3: long as I know, basically we all appears. But like you,

726
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:26,760
Speaker 3: like one of the last one of us.

727
00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:30,000
Speaker 1: Left, like a real gatekeeper, I feel like in the game,

728
00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:33,280
Speaker 1: like you stretch all the way to you know what

729
00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:36,360
Speaker 1: I'm saying to early two thousands to you know, to

730
00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:38,800
Speaker 1: what these guys is playing in the league now, Like

731
00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:42,000
Speaker 1: those are basically the real guys they grew up watching,

732
00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:45,200
Speaker 1: and then you played with a lot of the guys

733
00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:46,240
Speaker 1: that these guys are.

734
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:50,440
Speaker 3: You know that the Ogs. Of course they want to

735
00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:53,040
Speaker 3: cut you out. I've been keeping my eyeing it for

736
00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:58,280
Speaker 3: a minute. Okay, go ahead, it's sitting here looking that's

737
00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:03,400
Speaker 3: up to still being here though, sheers are still being here,

738
00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:05,240
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, living life because you know

739
00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:06,719
Speaker 3: what I'm saying, we all know where we come from.

740
00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:10,280
Speaker 1: It's crazy sty you know, so we're here. But like

741
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:12,640
Speaker 1: speaking on that being like like I said, you wanted

742
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:16,880
Speaker 1: the real last og gatekeepers that that you know, you

743
00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:20,360
Speaker 1: can say when you first came in, it wasn't even

744
00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:23,960
Speaker 1: NBA headbands and everything. Yeah, you know what I'm saying,

745
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:26,320
Speaker 1: Like the game was a lot different, you know what

746
00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:28,680
Speaker 1: I'm saying. It was just kind of turned the corner

747
00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:30,480
Speaker 1: to where you had a lot of guys coming straight

748
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:32,720
Speaker 1: out of high school and you had that wave coming through.

749
00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:36,640
Speaker 1: But it was still an older league than it is now.

750
00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:37,280
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

751
00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:40,080
Speaker 1: The rules and the way things were, the way people

752
00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:44,160
Speaker 1: played the interpretation of who was a real tough guy

753
00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:45,480
Speaker 1: and you know things like.

754
00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:50,360
Speaker 2: That was just center now, yeah, I know right and

755
00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:54,800
Speaker 2: a legit enforcery though like you know, we don't we don't.

756
00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:57,120
Speaker 3: We don't call names or do things like that on here.

757
00:32:57,160 --> 00:33:00,280
Speaker 3: But I'm just saying speaking to speaking to some Tom

758
00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:05,320
Speaker 3: Fuller going exactly, just speaking so tough phull of riging

759
00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:08,000
Speaker 3: up as opposed to then to where you know we

760
00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:09,960
Speaker 3: like I brought up Big Cat the other day, like

761
00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:12,959
Speaker 3: he sh like, can we please just talk about this

762
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:16,440
Speaker 3: for a second, bro, Like how at certain times, like

763
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:19,360
Speaker 3: Spoe would turn to him and want to put him

764
00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:21,280
Speaker 3: in the game, and with he can't put it back

765
00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:21,880
Speaker 3: a big cat.

766
00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:24,200
Speaker 1: People tell him to like I want to put you

767
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:28,080
Speaker 1: in the game, but I know you're gonna do something me.

768
00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:29,880
Speaker 3: One time the meeting, he told the Big Cat you

769
00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:36,680
Speaker 3: gotta I can't play because up he can't keep doing

770
00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:42,920
Speaker 3: that Big Cat boyland Big Cat was listening listen now,

771
00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:44,600
Speaker 3: And I was young, dumb, and I was trying to

772
00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:46,720
Speaker 3: fight Big Cat one time he was in Charlotte. You

773
00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:48,480
Speaker 3: know I ain't gave with damn me. I was ready

774
00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:50,960
Speaker 3: to squall off with Big Cat man big Cat hands

775
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:54,200
Speaker 3: big as this table. If big can't hit you, If

776
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:58,280
Speaker 3: Big can't hit you, a grab you. Case closed. If

777
00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:00,440
Speaker 3: they can't hit you, grab you. Told your best bet

778
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:03,480
Speaker 3: is a strike harder, strike fast. The big Cat hands

779
00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:06,720
Speaker 3: is huge. Man, You're gonna have to come with it. Yeah, Man,

780
00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:08,799
Speaker 3: He's one of the funniest dudes I know. Man, he

781
00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:11,120
Speaker 3: one of the funniest guys I know. Man. To this day, Man,

782
00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:13,200
Speaker 3: we and Big Cat still have fun. We see each other.

783
00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:15,120
Speaker 3: He a funny dorug. He a funny dude.

784
00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:20,800
Speaker 2: Lebron came bosh Can and we talked to d Wade

785
00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:24,560
Speaker 2: about this story. The only person I knew that was

786
00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:28,160
Speaker 2: gonna be definitely included was you. You know what I'm saying,

787
00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:31,200
Speaker 2: outside of Brian and Boss, what did you think about

788
00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:34,040
Speaker 2: that summer when all that happened and went down for

789
00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:36,960
Speaker 2: y'all was built to your championships?

790
00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:39,480
Speaker 3: You know that he didn't have money for me that summer,

791
00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:42,080
Speaker 3: you know, so I was actually about to leave, you know,

792
00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:43,799
Speaker 3: I was on my way down the arena, you know,

793
00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:45,520
Speaker 3: to have to sit down with Pat, you know, because

794
00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:47,120
Speaker 3: at that time all he had to offer was a

795
00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:49,400
Speaker 3: minimum contract. After you know, they had so many guys,

796
00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:53,000
Speaker 3: those all those guys coming in at that time. I

797
00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:54,520
Speaker 3: was in the prime of my career, you know what

798
00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:57,400
Speaker 3: I'm saying. I had other offers, so it was like,

799
00:34:57,440 --> 00:35:00,480
Speaker 3: I think round forty something million from them re that time,

800
00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:02,919
Speaker 3: so you know, not to take that and to play

801
00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:04,600
Speaker 3: for the minimum whatever. I think it was one point

802
00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:06,680
Speaker 3: five at that time. Whatever, that's crazy and I'm still

803
00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:09,560
Speaker 3: in my prime, you know what I'm saying. So you know,

804
00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:10,800
Speaker 3: I was on my way down to sit down and

805
00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:13,160
Speaker 3: pattern basically say you know, thank you, and I appreciate

806
00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:15,440
Speaker 3: y'all giving me the opportunity when nobody believed in me.

807
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:17,560
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. I couldn't get here today

808
00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:20,040
Speaker 3: without y'all. So as I exited the freeway, you know

809
00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:21,399
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. I don't know if men d Wade

810
00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:24,000
Speaker 3: was texting or if I called him, but you know,

811
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:25,719
Speaker 3: it was more like, you know, my boy, you know,

812
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:28,359
Speaker 3: it is what it is. You know we don't always vibe,

813
00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:30,319
Speaker 3: but you know, I probably got to move on from here.

814
00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:32,160
Speaker 3: So as I put up to the arena, you know,

815
00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:33,759
Speaker 3: I get a call from my agent, you know, the

816
00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:36,960
Speaker 3: late great you know, Henry Thomas, another a mentor that

817
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:39,280
Speaker 3: I've been blessed to have, you know in my life.

818
00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:41,680
Speaker 3: He tells me, you know, just wait a second, you know,

819
00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:43,360
Speaker 3: before you go in to see Pat, because you know,

820
00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:45,400
Speaker 3: it was it was that time was ready to look

821
00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:47,200
Speaker 3: Patter in the face and me like, man, I love

822
00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:50,160
Speaker 3: you guys, I appreciate it. But you know I felt

823
00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:51,640
Speaker 3: that was the right thing to do, you know what

824
00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:53,200
Speaker 3: I'm saying. If I was gonna move on, you know,

825
00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:56,120
Speaker 3: to do it like that hit me. It was like

826
00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:58,080
Speaker 3: just cheer for a second, don't go in pet office

827
00:35:58,120 --> 00:35:59,680
Speaker 3: like you know, and give me a second. We might

828
00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:02,120
Speaker 3: have a So the way, get on the phone. He

829
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:04,879
Speaker 3: called bron, He called CB and you tell these guys listen.

830
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:07,000
Speaker 3: You know, he about to lose this piece. You know

831
00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:09,720
Speaker 3: he can be, you know, real instrumental into us winning

832
00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:12,480
Speaker 3: these championships that were shooting for. So he told all

833
00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:14,120
Speaker 3: those I don't know how the numbers worked out or

834
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:16,120
Speaker 3: how they got how he did it, but everybody took

835
00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:18,800
Speaker 3: a less peace than the max just to make a

836
00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:20,480
Speaker 3: little money for me. You know, it still was less

837
00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:21,920
Speaker 3: than what I was offered. I think I ended up

838
00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:25,319
Speaker 3: signing for twenty etstead of forty something. But you know,

839
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:27,160
Speaker 3: for me to have the opportunity to play with those

840
00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:31,200
Speaker 3: guys you know, in my city and win championship sacrifice.

841
00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:33,120
Speaker 3: H yeah. And it showed a lot of respect because

842
00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:35,000
Speaker 3: at that time, I ain't no Broun and I ain't

843
00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:36,799
Speaker 3: no CB. You know what I'm saying. All I knew

844
00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:38,520
Speaker 3: was the Wade, But I guess the respect that they

845
00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:41,040
Speaker 3: had for me as a competitor from a competitive standpoint,

846
00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:42,799
Speaker 3: you know, it was enough for them to say, yeah,

847
00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:44,799
Speaker 3: we need this guy, this guy can help us. That

848
00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:47,320
Speaker 3: was big for me because you know, these guys all stars,

849
00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:48,920
Speaker 3: these guys are top players in the league, and we

850
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:50,880
Speaker 3: don't have no relationship to play, but they want me

851
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:52,840
Speaker 3: to play with him. So you know, for me, you know,

852
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:54,759
Speaker 3: I took that a certain way, and you know I

853
00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:56,399
Speaker 3: ain't I wanted to make good on that.

854
00:36:57,600 --> 00:37:00,960
Speaker 2: Me and Q came out, we got drafted, We got

855
00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:03,200
Speaker 2: the opportunity to go to Zoel something groove.

856
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:03,920
Speaker 3: What's up?

857
00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:06,000
Speaker 2: So we came out here to Miami and you know,

858
00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:08,080
Speaker 2: we're kicking it and so for a phone and you know,

859
00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:11,080
Speaker 2: we down here a couple of days early.

860
00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:13,120
Speaker 3: Before the Groove, young boys.

861
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:18,520
Speaker 2: Were running to Trick Daddy and Coca Nut Grove. Trick

862
00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:19,440
Speaker 2: Daddy told me.

863
00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:22,160
Speaker 3: He said, man, I just watched you on the McDonald's game. Man,

864
00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:23,799
Speaker 3: you was dunking that thing out. Man.

865
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:26,680
Speaker 2: What youall boys doing. We were like, noning, man, we're

866
00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:28,440
Speaker 2: trying to go out with up. He said, oh no, boy,

867
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:29,279
Speaker 2: y'all can go with us.

868
00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:31,440
Speaker 3: Man. It was him and his brother. You know what

869
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:34,480
Speaker 3: I'm saying. And he was like, uh yeah, man, we're

870
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:34,920
Speaker 3: gonna go.

871
00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:38,520
Speaker 2: To Coke cos I said what he said, Coke Coo.

872
00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:40,719
Speaker 2: He said, Man, be ready, man, We're gonna call up.

873
00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:45,560
Speaker 2: Then when them scourges just came out.

874
00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:48,200
Speaker 3: Of the boys.

875
00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:50,640
Speaker 2: Came and picked us up just the first. This is

876
00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:52,600
Speaker 2: like one of the first people we get a chance

877
00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:55,920
Speaker 2: to be around in Miamis for like all the players

878
00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:57,840
Speaker 2: come down and we even start the weekend.

879
00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:00,239
Speaker 3: Trick Daddy come pick us up.

880
00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:03,640
Speaker 2: Didn't like I said, he didn't know me from saying

881
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:05,520
Speaker 2: me or Q for saying he just knew he was

882
00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:07,440
Speaker 2: just on the draft and I was just in the

883
00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:11,400
Speaker 2: McDonald game. Picked us up, took us to Coco. We

884
00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:14,320
Speaker 2: said in there and we kicked it in Coco.

885
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:16,080
Speaker 3: He dropped us off.

886
00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:18,440
Speaker 2: Man, I'm talking about had a good night with Trick daddy,

887
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:20,400
Speaker 2: what do trick Daddy like me.

888
00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:23,480
Speaker 3: That's that's how Double lives. That's how Double live. Man,

889
00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:25,279
Speaker 3: he the male. You know what I'm saying, That's how

890
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:26,959
Speaker 3: Double live. That's how he treat you. I know tricks

891
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:28,960
Speaker 3: since I was eighteen. You know, I'm thirty eight now,

892
00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:31,000
Speaker 3: so I know a trick over twenty years. Man. And

893
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:33,040
Speaker 3: when I see Trick all the time, it's all love.

894
00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:35,040
Speaker 3: Like I said, Like, you know what I'm saying, We

895
00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:36,719
Speaker 3: just pick up what we left off at and I

896
00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:39,200
Speaker 3: ain't I ain't surprised he showed you all love like that. Man,

897
00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:41,400
Speaker 3: that's like, you know what I'm saying. He takes pride

898
00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:43,640
Speaker 3: in being from this city. Man, when people come down here,

899
00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:45,600
Speaker 3: he wanted everybody to have a good experience down here.

900
00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:49,719
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. He said everybody. Yeah, he

901
00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:52,080
Speaker 3: wanted everybody to having good experience down I ain't never

902
00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:54,400
Speaker 3: been a coco. Yeah. He want everybody to enjoyed itself

903
00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:55,280
Speaker 3: and enjoy the city.

904
00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:55,520
Speaker 1: Man.

905
00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:57,880
Speaker 3: Just you know, understand it's a bridge and it's the

906
00:38:57,920 --> 00:38:59,799
Speaker 3: other side of the bridge when you come down here,

907
00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:03,040
Speaker 3: Like you said, yeah, I just understands. Yeah, it's two sides.

908
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:05,640
Speaker 2: Of Q was rookie. We didn't have no money. We

909
00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:08,360
Speaker 2: just got drafted the money and we didn't really have

910
00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:10,840
Speaker 2: no money. We had some little change, but not no money.

911
00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:13,080
Speaker 3: Money. And fast forward. He took us in there and

912
00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:14,880
Speaker 3: just showed us a good time.

913
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:17,279
Speaker 1: And just like now, we know that it was the

914
00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:19,600
Speaker 1: you know, like the hood or whatever, but you couldn't

915
00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:21,680
Speaker 1: have told us that it was all love up in there.

916
00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:24,719
Speaker 3: Yeah. Man, Also because you're good with Double Man, and

917
00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:26,200
Speaker 3: that's how it's supposed to be. Man. You know what

918
00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:29,200
Speaker 3: I'm saying, Like Double gonna always show love. Man when

919
00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:30,680
Speaker 3: love is show back, you know what I'm saying. I

920
00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:32,920
Speaker 3: think it's the people that get confused that Miami in

921
00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:35,520
Speaker 3: South Beach is two different places. Some people get that confused,

922
00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:37,719
Speaker 3: Like I can't achover across this bridge, how yat on

923
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:40,200
Speaker 3: South Beach? You come on this side of town, you

924
00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:41,839
Speaker 3: come on a certain side of town. You gotta act

925
00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:44,000
Speaker 3: a certain way. You know what I'm saying. South Beach

926
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:45,840
Speaker 3: and South Beach and Miami is Miami. You know what

927
00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:48,120
Speaker 3: I'm saying. And if you're from here, you know the difference.

928
00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:49,359
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. I tell people all the time,

929
00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:51,680
Speaker 3: I ain't been to South Beach until I got the NBA.

930
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:53,920
Speaker 3: I had never crossed that bridge and seen what was

931
00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:57,640
Speaker 3: over there, them clubs, the water, all that that they

932
00:39:57,680 --> 00:39:59,600
Speaker 3: were doing over there. Yeah, and I had never been

933
00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:01,120
Speaker 3: over there. I got the NBA. We used to go

934
00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:03,160
Speaker 3: to Hollow Beach. That's where all you know what I'm saying,

935
00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:05,040
Speaker 3: the black people used to go to Hollover Beach. That's

936
00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:06,400
Speaker 3: where we you know, you get over there, you got

937
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:09,680
Speaker 3: the grills out on the thing, jet skis, everybody vibe.

938
00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:11,040
Speaker 3: And that was the beach we went to. We ain't

939
00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:12,560
Speaker 3: go to South Beach, so I ain't never go over

940
00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:13,560
Speaker 3: there until I got the NBA.

941
00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:17,600
Speaker 2: You came from Miami from the bottom to the top. Man,

942
00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:22,000
Speaker 2: you done seen you done dreamed about being a heat

943
00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:25,759
Speaker 2: player and became a heat player, became a champion they

944
00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:28,040
Speaker 2: say Wade County. But like when we look at you

945
00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:30,640
Speaker 2: as like the mayor too, like trick Day, like you

946
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:34,560
Speaker 2: like a mayor too, not just for the Miami Heat,

947
00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:37,880
Speaker 2: but for the streets, like everybody seeing your growth, like

948
00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:39,120
Speaker 2: everybody come to you.

949
00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:41,399
Speaker 3: Let's talk about like how how you get back to.

950
00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:45,399
Speaker 2: The community and the things that you do around Miami for.

951
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:48,839
Speaker 3: The people to appreciate. Yeah, yeah, like your home. Yeah, man,

952
00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:51,040
Speaker 3: d Way, we figured it out. We you know, like

953
00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:53,040
Speaker 3: I said, we talk about the bridge, so I let

954
00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:56,200
Speaker 3: him have South Beach. Everything crossed the other side that

955
00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:59,399
Speaker 3: belonged to me, right, That's how we worked that out,

956
00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:01,680
Speaker 3: and we happy with that. We're we happy with that structure.

957
00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:04,960
Speaker 3: That structure works for us. So that's how we do that.

958
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:08,120
Speaker 3: But you know, my mother struggle with a drug addiction

959
00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:11,080
Speaker 3: and you know, homelessness and just a lot of different things.

960
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:13,000
Speaker 3: So when I got to this point, you know, I

961
00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:15,239
Speaker 3: was blessed to have somebody step in my life with

962
00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:18,680
Speaker 3: my stepmother Barbara, and then you know, my father being there.

963
00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:21,200
Speaker 3: But it took help from somebody to step in and

964
00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:23,640
Speaker 3: feel a gap for a little while. You know, God,

965
00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:25,759
Speaker 3: will you know my mother cleaned herself up and became

966
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:28,359
Speaker 3: an example of somebody who you know, I always look

967
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:31,000
Speaker 3: up to and respect and was inspired by, and you know,

968
00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:33,480
Speaker 3: probably the strongest person I know. But I was raised

969
00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:34,960
Speaker 3: and I wouldn't be here today if it wasn't for

970
00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:37,400
Speaker 3: somebody's help, you know what I'm saying. So for me,

971
00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:39,920
Speaker 3: I was put in a position to help people, you

972
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:41,560
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. So I kind of started out

973
00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:44,040
Speaker 3: with you know, just giving given, just giving. I had

974
00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:46,120
Speaker 3: a family friend that passed away, so you know, we

975
00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:47,960
Speaker 3: kind of took our kids in it was given. And

976
00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:49,640
Speaker 3: then I started doing things for the church. And then

977
00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:52,279
Speaker 3: I started a foundation, you know, and now we have

978
00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:55,480
Speaker 3: a reading writing program. We partner with grandparents raising grandkids.

979
00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:58,880
Speaker 3: And then the next phase for me was provide jobs.

980
00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:00,960
Speaker 3: Because now it's like if I give you some money,

981
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:03,080
Speaker 3: it's gone in a little while, or if I die

982
00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:05,200
Speaker 3: to day, what you're gonna do? You know what I'm saying.

983
00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:07,560
Speaker 3: So you know, people asked why I got you know,

984
00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:09,640
Speaker 3: the businesses, and why this and why that. You know,

985
00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:11,680
Speaker 3: you could have did anything. It's like, okay, but these

986
00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:14,920
Speaker 3: businesses that I got into provide jobs, provide opportunities. So

987
00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:17,240
Speaker 3: you know, I don't hire people that went to school

988
00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:19,239
Speaker 3: with me. I don't hire people that you know, grew

989
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:21,360
Speaker 3: up with my pops. I don't have my homeboy sister

990
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:22,799
Speaker 3: like you know what I'm saying. I done did things

991
00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:25,279
Speaker 3: like that so they can grow, you know, without me.

992
00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:27,279
Speaker 3: You know, you don't even need me. You work, you

993
00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:28,880
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. You put yourself in position to

994
00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:31,400
Speaker 3: grow in these situations without my help. So you know

995
00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:32,960
Speaker 3: that was the reason why I was able to get

996
00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:36,120
Speaker 3: into those things. But you know, for me, man, it's like,

997
00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:37,560
Speaker 3: I don't went all the way around the world of

998
00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:39,200
Speaker 3: France just to be back here. Man, they got to

999
00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:40,600
Speaker 3: mean something, you know what I'm saying. I gotta do

1000
00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:42,360
Speaker 3: something with that opportunity. You know, I was at my

1001
00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:44,239
Speaker 3: grandma house the other day. You know, I sat down

1002
00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:45,600
Speaker 3: with my grandma for about an hour, and then I

1003
00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:47,400
Speaker 3: went in the backyard and I was looking at the

1004
00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:48,879
Speaker 3: court that I used to play at, you know, as

1005
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:51,120
Speaker 3: a kid man. And you know, I just remember, you know,

1006
00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:53,359
Speaker 3: them battles. Me and my cousin used to hide back there,

1007
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:55,120
Speaker 3: and then you know, it was a small court. And

1008
00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:56,640
Speaker 3: then if you got good enough to beat people on

1009
00:42:56,719 --> 00:42:58,440
Speaker 3: the small court, then a little bit further down you're

1010
00:42:58,440 --> 00:42:59,640
Speaker 3: going to court with the grown up, you know what

1011
00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:02,520
Speaker 3: I'm saying. And nothing. Yeah, you know how you know

1012
00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:05,600
Speaker 3: that caught down there had dice games all that down there.

1013
00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:07,040
Speaker 3: You know, he stayed on the other court. You know

1014
00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:08,759
Speaker 3: what I'm saying, That caught down there had a little

1015
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:11,279
Speaker 3: more action, you know what I'm saying. So you know,

1016
00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:14,560
Speaker 3: I just remember all that so like I told you,

1017
00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:16,279
Speaker 3: you know, people only know these kids only know what

1018
00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:17,480
Speaker 3: they see every day. You know what I'm saying. I

1019
00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:19,440
Speaker 3: only knew what I was around every day. So now

1020
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:21,160
Speaker 3: I done made it out and I see different things.

1021
00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:22,640
Speaker 3: I just wanted these kids to know that there's something

1022
00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:24,719
Speaker 3: else out there for them, that they willing to work

1023
00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:26,400
Speaker 3: for it and just sacrifice a little bit. Because I

1024
00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:28,520
Speaker 3: ain't telling you not to have no fun, but just

1025
00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:30,000
Speaker 3: not the fun that's gonna get you killed, you know

1026
00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:31,440
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. Not the fun that's gonna get you

1027
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:32,880
Speaker 3: put in jail. You know what I'm saying. Not that

1028
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:35,400
Speaker 3: kind of fun. You can go home. Yeah, you know

1029
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:37,520
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. And yeah, you know what I'm saying.

1030
00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:39,480
Speaker 3: And like I think the kids losing that, you know

1031
00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:41,440
Speaker 3: what I'm saying, because either you scared to have fun

1032
00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:43,319
Speaker 3: because you can't let your guard down you don't want

1033
00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:45,080
Speaker 3: to look soft. Or you know what I'm saying, you

1034
00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:47,800
Speaker 3: ain't having no fun because you the one out there gooning,

1035
00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:50,440
Speaker 3: so you can't smile about nothing because you you're on

1036
00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:52,560
Speaker 3: the up mode, you know what I'm saying. Twenty four

1037
00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:58,680
Speaker 3: seven Breakfast, Yeah you know you feel me so kids

1038
00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:00,799
Speaker 3: missing out on the opportunity to have fun from both

1039
00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:02,239
Speaker 3: sides of it. You know what I'm saying, Like we

1040
00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:03,960
Speaker 3: used to have fun. You feel me, like, you know

1041
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:05,879
Speaker 3: what I'm saying that now. You know it was certain

1042
00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:07,880
Speaker 3: situations where you know, you had to be on a

1043
00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:09,880
Speaker 3: point a little more than other situations. Man, But at

1044
00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:11,640
Speaker 3: the end of the day, you and your homeboys had fun.

1045
00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:13,640
Speaker 3: They can't have no fun no more. You know what

1046
00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:15,640
Speaker 3: I'm saying. They can't have no fun.

1047
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:18,719
Speaker 1: To be able to stand here today, sixteen years in

1048
00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:22,439
Speaker 1: and just everything you accomplished, like you the all time

1049
00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:27,640
Speaker 1: leading rebound for the Miami Heat, after going undrafted, going

1050
00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:30,520
Speaker 1: to France, having to come in and kick down the

1051
00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:33,560
Speaker 1: back door. They got to give you a statue or something.

1052
00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:37,040
Speaker 1: Your jersey going up and like this your crib. Yeah,

1053
00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:38,600
Speaker 1: like you know what I'm saying, Like you did it.

1054
00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:40,240
Speaker 1: You put on your city.

1055
00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:42,959
Speaker 3: Literally, I mean it feels good man, like you said,

1056
00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:45,480
Speaker 3: coming through the back door, you know, not being drafted.

1057
00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:47,040
Speaker 3: You know, I speak on my mother a lot, and

1058
00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:48,759
Speaker 3: like I said, she was the strongest person I know.

1059
00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:51,040
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, to come from, you know

1060
00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:52,840
Speaker 3: where she had to come from to build you know

1061
00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:55,120
Speaker 3: the brand that she had to build for herself before

1062
00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:58,279
Speaker 3: she passed away. So like I done seen so many struggles, Man,

1063
00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:00,399
Speaker 3: ain't nothing been easy for me? Like I ain't never

1064
00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:03,719
Speaker 3: really been given nothing. So I've developed an unbelievable you

1065
00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:06,160
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, resilience and grit in life. You

1066
00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:08,719
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, Like not only just growing up,

1067
00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:11,279
Speaker 3: but or in my situation, but just watching so many

1068
00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:13,840
Speaker 3: homeboys pass away, man, like I gotta cause it with

1069
00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:16,120
Speaker 3: rest in Peace T shirts that I keep. You know

1070
00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:18,200
Speaker 3: what I'm saying as my homeboys. You know what I'm saying,

1071
00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:20,799
Speaker 3: like in the stack bigger and than it need to be.

1072
00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:23,240
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. So like I know, seeing

1073
00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:25,960
Speaker 3: everything but to win, man, So I'm wanted them people.

1074
00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:29,239
Speaker 3: Man that you know I'm here today, But man, it

1075
00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:32,040
Speaker 3: ain't damn show because things have went my way put

1076
00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:34,680
Speaker 3: more majority of the time. Man. So you know, but

1077
00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:36,320
Speaker 3: I was always told by my mom. You know what

1078
00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:38,120
Speaker 3: I'm saying, what the Lord got for you is for you.

1079
00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:40,160
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, You can't envy nobody else situation.

1080
00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:41,640
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, What the lawd got for

1081
00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:43,239
Speaker 3: you is for you. So you know what I'm saying.

1082
00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:45,319
Speaker 3: I'm wanted them people that I understand that I got

1083
00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:47,760
Speaker 3: to get it the hard way, and I've become accustomed

1084
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:49,440
Speaker 3: to that. So I ain't want it the easy way.

1085
00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:51,319
Speaker 3: No more like I don't don't even get it to

1086
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:53,600
Speaker 3: me because that ain't what I'm used to. If you

1087
00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:55,480
Speaker 3: start giving me shit, I'm gonna start questioning. Hold on

1088
00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:57,799
Speaker 3: what this shit attached to? What you want from me?

1089
00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:00,400
Speaker 3: Like what you're trying? Like, nah, why you giving me

1090
00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:03,160
Speaker 3: some what you're trying to be slick? Like? Nah, you

1091
00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:05,840
Speaker 3: know what I pay for it? You know what I'm saying.

1092
00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:08,440
Speaker 3: So I ain't even used to get in there and easy, man. So,

1093
00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:11,239
Speaker 3: like I said, many have to go through all that

1094
00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:13,000
Speaker 3: and to still be here today. Man, it's a story

1095
00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:14,919
Speaker 3: to tell, man, But not just a story to tell

1096
00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:16,520
Speaker 3: just to tell it to get praised for it, but

1097
00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:18,680
Speaker 3: the story to tell it be an example for these

1098
00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:20,640
Speaker 3: shorties out here, man, Like I don't walk around with

1099
00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:22,160
Speaker 3: no security. Man, short you want to come up to

1100
00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:23,480
Speaker 3: men and we could talk. Man, you coming to me,

1101
00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:25,600
Speaker 3: we have a conversation. And I go over town, I

1102
00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:27,040
Speaker 3: go in the city, I go to open locker in

1103
00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:29,319
Speaker 3: my face clean everywhere out here, So like for me,

1104
00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:30,960
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, I just want to continue

1105
00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:32,480
Speaker 3: to be in inspiration because I know I got a

1106
00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:34,839
Speaker 3: story to tell that can help and inspire somebody. If

1107
00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:36,360
Speaker 3: somebody asked me what i'd have been here today, I

1108
00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:38,120
Speaker 3: couldn't have told him. Yeah, you know what I'm saying,

1109
00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:39,680
Speaker 3: not saying I'm doing this and I don't know what

1110
00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:41,040
Speaker 3: I would have been doing. You know what I'm saying,

1111
00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:43,759
Speaker 3: because I ain't had no backup playing word. You know,

1112
00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:45,680
Speaker 3: people ask me what you made it into college, I'd

1113
00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:49,560
Speaker 3: be like basketball because that's what I went for. I

1114
00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:51,799
Speaker 3: ain't saying I wasn't trying to do my school work,

1115
00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:54,319
Speaker 3: But you asked me what I signed. I signed a

1116
00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:57,879
Speaker 3: basketball scholarship. That's why they brought me here. They ain't

1117
00:46:57,920 --> 00:47:00,640
Speaker 3: brought me here to be a biologist. They ag brought

1118
00:47:00,680 --> 00:47:03,359
Speaker 3: me here to be a mathematician. They brought me here

1119
00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:05,160
Speaker 3: to play basketball. So when people say, yay, you know

1120
00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:06,719
Speaker 3: what you do, that was like, yeah, I major it

1121
00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:09,279
Speaker 3: in basketball. You get your degree yet not yet. I'm

1122
00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:10,839
Speaker 3: going to get it. But until I get it, I

1123
00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:12,040
Speaker 3: have a lot of people that work for me that

1124
00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:15,120
Speaker 3: have their degree and I appreciate them, Yeah, because I

1125
00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:17,080
Speaker 3: understand what I'm good at and I understand what they're

1126
00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:19,719
Speaker 3: good at. Yeah, that's important. You know what I'm saying.

1127
00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:21,839
Speaker 3: You got to surround yourself with the right people as well,

1128
00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:24,240
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. That's that's more important anything

1129
00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:26,520
Speaker 3: coming from where we come from. We know the reality

1130
00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:28,279
Speaker 3: is surrounding yourself with the wrong people can get your

1131
00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:31,080
Speaker 3: kid facts, you know what I'm saying. So if you

1132
00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:32,920
Speaker 3: understand that at a young age, then you should now

1133
00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:34,239
Speaker 3: show know that as growing up.

1134
00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:37,480
Speaker 2: Definitely should When you came up when you was in

1135
00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:40,239
Speaker 2: high school, who was the players that you was looking at?

1136
00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:42,239
Speaker 3: You know, I was always under the wing of the

1137
00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:45,520
Speaker 3: ogs man some shape form of fashion. I was always

1138
00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:47,840
Speaker 3: under the wing of the ogs man, even you know

1139
00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:49,880
Speaker 3: as a youngster. You know, I always hung with older people.

1140
00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:51,600
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. I kind of gravitated to

1141
00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:54,000
Speaker 3: my brother's friends. That's more of my friends. You know

1142
00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:55,640
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. I was bigger than everybody that I

1143
00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:57,440
Speaker 3: probably would you know, it was hanging out with anyway,

1144
00:47:57,520 --> 00:47:59,800
Speaker 3: So I just came up under that man. That's probably

1145
00:47:59,800 --> 00:48:02,200
Speaker 3: why I'm so good, you know with the young guys now, man,

1146
00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:04,719
Speaker 3: because I always came up with under the ogs. Man.

1147
00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:08,000
Speaker 3: I still go to the Bible Shop on Fridays, man,

1148
00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:09,919
Speaker 3: and we get fired out the coronas and talk shit

1149
00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:12,920
Speaker 3: like you know what I'm saying, and you, man, you'll

1150
00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:16,040
Speaker 3: walk out of it. You'll walk man, Listen, You'll walk

1151
00:48:16,040 --> 00:48:18,200
Speaker 3: out of the Bible Shop for field. Yeah, you know

1152
00:48:18,239 --> 00:48:22,040
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. For filled with knowledge and you know everything. Man.

1153
00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:24,600
Speaker 3: So I still enjoy doing that, man, because you know

1154
00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:26,160
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. They sitting back there. You know, you

1155
00:48:26,239 --> 00:48:28,279
Speaker 3: got people sitting in the black playing dominoes. You know

1156
00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:30,600
Speaker 3: what I'm saying, You got the music playing, you discussing sports,

1157
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:32,480
Speaker 3: you know this, that and the third and you know,

1158
00:48:32,560 --> 00:48:34,239
Speaker 3: it's just funny to hear some of the opinions of

1159
00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:36,920
Speaker 3: the og sometimes when they talking, they know they know

1160
00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:38,840
Speaker 3: every guy there that well, you can't tell them nothing,

1161
00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:41,000
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. They got all the sense.

1162
00:48:41,040 --> 00:48:43,080
Speaker 3: So you know, I still enjoy doing that, man. That's

1163
00:48:43,120 --> 00:48:45,440
Speaker 3: fun for me. Was there anybody in the league that

1164
00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:47,879
Speaker 3: you looked up to? Yeah that it was like, Man,

1165
00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:50,800
Speaker 3: I like that game. Yeah, man, you like that. You

1166
00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:53,160
Speaker 3: know you your game might not be like what you

1167
00:48:53,160 --> 00:48:56,080
Speaker 3: want to yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, for me

1168
00:48:56,360 --> 00:48:59,160
Speaker 3: watching NBA basketball, you know, it was all about watching

1169
00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:02,440
Speaker 3: guys that win. I always enjoyed watching you know, Magic,

1170
00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:05,360
Speaker 3: how he was able to do everything on the basketball

1171
00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:07,520
Speaker 3: court and how he helped, you know, move the needle

1172
00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:09,520
Speaker 3: and winning. And when Kareem was out of Magic had

1173
00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:12,640
Speaker 3: to play center and went down in the painting. I

1174
00:49:12,680 --> 00:49:14,839
Speaker 3: don't know, I can't remember the exact numbers, but he's

1175
00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:17,839
Speaker 3: skyt hooked him to death. Scott hooked him to death.

1176
00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:22,399
Speaker 3: Skyhook the death down there, Skot Hood they ad to death.

1177
00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:25,200
Speaker 3: So you know, guys like that, You know what I'm saying. Bird,

1178
00:49:25,280 --> 00:49:26,560
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. How he was able to

1179
00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:29,200
Speaker 3: get down man. But you know, one of my favorite players.

1180
00:49:29,239 --> 00:49:32,080
Speaker 3: I will say now you know today in the game today,

1181
00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:33,759
Speaker 3: and it's just because I had a chance to up

1182
00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:35,719
Speaker 3: close see it, you know what I'm saying. And at

1183
00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:37,479
Speaker 3: that time, I thought I worked hard, but I didn't

1184
00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:40,279
Speaker 3: know the medical side of it. And educate myself one

1185
00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:42,279
Speaker 3: of this. You know how hard Bron worked, You know

1186
00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:44,160
Speaker 3: how hard Bron worked to keep his body right, How

1187
00:49:44,239 --> 00:49:46,640
Speaker 3: hard Bron worked or to still stay at a high level.

1188
00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:48,560
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying for me, you know, it

1189
00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:50,520
Speaker 3: was just hit the gym every day, hit the weight room.

1190
00:49:50,560 --> 00:49:52,160
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. But it's a science to it.

1191
00:49:52,520 --> 00:49:54,000
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. For me, He helped me

1192
00:49:54,080 --> 00:49:56,160
Speaker 3: understand that science to it, just watching him and being

1193
00:49:56,200 --> 00:49:58,479
Speaker 3: around him. You know, It's been a lot of different

1194
00:49:58,480 --> 00:49:59,719
Speaker 3: players on a lot of different levels.

1195
00:49:59,760 --> 00:49:59,920
Speaker 4: Man.

1196
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:01,880
Speaker 3: The thing for me is, I can't say I have

1197
00:50:02,080 --> 00:50:04,360
Speaker 3: one favorite, but I have a lot of different guys

1198
00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:06,120
Speaker 3: that I've been around that have been able to give

1199
00:50:06,160 --> 00:50:08,520
Speaker 3: me something that's helped me be who I am today.

1200
00:50:08,600 --> 00:50:10,480
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, Gary Payton, you know what

1201
00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:13,120
Speaker 3: I'm saying. With the defense and can't forget how much

1202
00:50:13,120 --> 00:50:15,960
Speaker 3: shit GP talk. He don't stop talking. She probably talking,

1203
00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:20,000
Speaker 3: probably talking shit about somebody right now about something he's

1204
00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:23,120
Speaker 3: selling out right now. You know what I'm saying. Obviously,

1205
00:50:23,120 --> 00:50:24,759
Speaker 3: you know big fella, you know Shot. You know what

1206
00:50:24,760 --> 00:50:27,880
Speaker 3: I'm saying is, you know, always he always you know,

1207
00:50:28,040 --> 00:50:30,160
Speaker 3: uplifted his teammates. You know when I played with him,

1208
00:50:30,160 --> 00:50:31,759
Speaker 3: you know, he was always somebody that kept it light,

1209
00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:33,680
Speaker 3: but he was always somebody that breathed life into you

1210
00:50:33,719 --> 00:50:38,680
Speaker 3: and gave you the ultimate confidence you know what I'm saying. Yeah,

1211
00:50:38,719 --> 00:50:40,400
Speaker 3: he was always somebody that breathed life and you and

1212
00:50:40,440 --> 00:50:42,919
Speaker 3: gave you confidence. You know what I'm saying. Like Joe,

1213
00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:44,759
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying that the straight up work

1214
00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:46,719
Speaker 3: part of it. In the gym, in the weight room

1215
00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:50,000
Speaker 3: before a practice, in the weight room after practice, Brian Grant,

1216
00:50:50,040 --> 00:50:52,279
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, another working Yeah, you know

1217
00:50:52,280 --> 00:50:54,399
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. Eddie Jones, let's not forget shot out Eddie,

1218
00:50:54,440 --> 00:50:56,960
Speaker 3: for a lot of them had a chance to play

1219
00:50:57,000 --> 00:50:59,080
Speaker 3: with him. So all these guys I had a chance

1220
00:50:59,120 --> 00:51:00,799
Speaker 3: to play with had something thing that I was able

1221
00:51:00,840 --> 00:51:02,919
Speaker 3: to say, damn. You know that's a quality that I want,

1222
00:51:03,640 --> 00:51:04,960
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. And to be able to

1223
00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:07,279
Speaker 3: implement all those qualities and still be who I am.

1224
00:51:07,560 --> 00:51:09,839
Speaker 3: It just helps me relate to this next generation because man,

1225
00:51:09,960 --> 00:51:11,839
Speaker 3: if I didn't have those qullegs, I wouldn't understand these

1226
00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:14,640
Speaker 3: thunder cats. Man. Trying to tell you, man, I was

1227
00:51:14,680 --> 00:51:17,160
Speaker 3: trying to tell you man, I want to talk about that.

1228
00:51:17,360 --> 00:51:21,960
Speaker 1: I feel like all teams need that veteran presence of

1229
00:51:22,080 --> 00:51:25,759
Speaker 1: a real, genuine very I mean outside of you, A

1230
00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:28,080
Speaker 1: lot of these teams you look at they veterans, they

1231
00:51:28,080 --> 00:51:30,920
Speaker 1: got five and six years, they got four and five years,

1232
00:51:30,920 --> 00:51:34,200
Speaker 1: and they came in at nineteen, so they still young men.

1233
00:51:34,280 --> 00:51:36,719
Speaker 1: They even grew into you know what I'm saying, to

1234
00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:39,239
Speaker 1: a real mature because you know, we all thought we

1235
00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:41,799
Speaker 1: was grown ass men in twenty one twenty.

1236
00:51:41,520 --> 00:51:45,120
Speaker 3: Things, and we now know that we were far from it. Yeah,

1237
00:51:45,160 --> 00:51:45,560
Speaker 3: I'm saying.

1238
00:51:45,560 --> 00:51:49,840
Speaker 1: So it's like you got in some scenarios, not all,

1239
00:51:49,880 --> 00:51:53,280
Speaker 1: but in some scenarios you got a young immature kids

1240
00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:54,600
Speaker 1: leading other.

1241
00:51:54,440 --> 00:51:55,879
Speaker 3: Young immature kids. Facts.

1242
00:51:56,239 --> 00:51:58,759
Speaker 1: You know, the relationship and the chemistry you have with

1243
00:51:58,840 --> 00:52:00,880
Speaker 1: those guys, with all of them, and it's a genuine

1244
00:52:01,040 --> 00:52:03,440
Speaker 1: great chemistry. They look up to you and they listen

1245
00:52:03,480 --> 00:52:05,160
Speaker 1: to you and they you know what I'm saying, you

1246
00:52:05,239 --> 00:52:07,000
Speaker 1: got them the right way. And like you said, you

1247
00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:10,880
Speaker 1: got the type of personality where anybody who know anything

1248
00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:13,040
Speaker 1: about you know you about that if you gotta be.

1249
00:52:13,160 --> 00:52:15,160
Speaker 1: But that's not what drives you, that's not what you You

1250
00:52:15,160 --> 00:52:18,400
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, you respond to courter. So everybody

1251
00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:21,440
Speaker 1: know you with the business, but like same time, they

1252
00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:24,200
Speaker 1: know that like you got wisdom bestow and like you're

1253
00:52:24,200 --> 00:52:27,279
Speaker 1: a good person. So just just from that standpoint, talk

1254
00:52:27,320 --> 00:52:30,560
Speaker 1: about your relationship with the young guys and how you

1255
00:52:30,600 --> 00:52:32,799
Speaker 1: work with them, what type of value you get out

1256
00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:34,799
Speaker 1: of that, and appreciation you get from doing that.

1257
00:52:35,080 --> 00:52:37,239
Speaker 3: It's just different now, you know what I'm saying. That

1258
00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:39,080
Speaker 3: we just we could take it a step further, like

1259
00:52:39,120 --> 00:52:41,120
Speaker 3: I told you, Like you know, a lot of people

1260
00:52:41,120 --> 00:52:43,319
Speaker 3: grew up with, you know, a situation where maybe their

1261
00:52:43,360 --> 00:52:45,399
Speaker 3: father wasn't around, you know what I'm saying, But they

1262
00:52:45,400 --> 00:52:48,279
Speaker 3: had ogs, you know what I'm saying. So sometimes even

1263
00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:50,640
Speaker 3: though he wasn't necessarily you know what I'm saying at

1264
00:52:50,680 --> 00:52:52,319
Speaker 3: the crib with you. You know what I'm saying, he was

1265
00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:53,879
Speaker 3: somebody that might have kept you out of trouble because

1266
00:52:53,880 --> 00:52:56,160
Speaker 3: he's seen something in you. So he'd be like you,

1267
00:52:56,320 --> 00:52:57,719
Speaker 3: you want to be somewhere you ain't supposed to be

1268
00:52:57,719 --> 00:53:00,520
Speaker 3: a particular last home. He go ten dollars right round here,

1269
00:53:00,520 --> 00:53:02,440
Speaker 3: No up, you know what I'm saying, or something like that.

1270
00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:04,239
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. We always had those kind

1271
00:53:04,280 --> 00:53:06,799
Speaker 3: of old jeez. You know, it's always good to have

1272
00:53:06,840 --> 00:53:10,320
Speaker 3: somebody who's not having an intimidation factor of being your father,

1273
00:53:10,719 --> 00:53:12,719
Speaker 3: or somebody who you can listen to and that can

1274
00:53:12,800 --> 00:53:14,440
Speaker 3: kind of swear you in the right direction and you

1275
00:53:14,520 --> 00:53:16,759
Speaker 3: value their opinion. So for me, yeah, you know what

1276
00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:18,759
Speaker 3: I'm saying. So for me, I'm saying, I could talk

1277
00:53:18,840 --> 00:53:20,600
Speaker 3: that talk with them boys all day long and I

1278
00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:22,560
Speaker 3: ain't coming at them as a coach. But what you

1279
00:53:22,560 --> 00:53:25,160
Speaker 3: got to understand is everybody is different, So you got

1280
00:53:25,160 --> 00:53:27,520
Speaker 3: to deliver your message different. Some people you could cuts

1281
00:53:27,560 --> 00:53:29,640
Speaker 3: out and they could take it. Some people you cut

1282
00:53:29,680 --> 00:53:31,279
Speaker 3: out and they go in the shire. You know what

1283
00:53:31,280 --> 00:53:33,160
Speaker 3: I'm saying. So you just got to get to know everybody, man,

1284
00:53:33,160 --> 00:53:35,640
Speaker 3: because everybody different, man, So that take time understanding who

1285
00:53:35,640 --> 00:53:37,560
Speaker 3: you're dealing with with these young dudes. Man, a lot

1286
00:53:37,600 --> 00:53:40,000
Speaker 3: of young boys be fragile, you know what I'm saying.

1287
00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:41,640
Speaker 3: A lot of don't be fragile. You know what I'm saying.

1288
00:53:41,640 --> 00:53:43,080
Speaker 3: A lot don't be fragile. And so you got to

1289
00:53:43,160 --> 00:53:45,160
Speaker 3: understand that moving forward, man, because you want to get

1290
00:53:45,160 --> 00:53:46,360
Speaker 3: the best out of them. You don't want them to

1291
00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:47,960
Speaker 3: dislike you. You know what I'm saying, Because at the

1292
00:53:48,040 --> 00:53:49,919
Speaker 3: end of the day, I'm here for you. I got

1293
00:53:49,960 --> 00:53:52,680
Speaker 3: three rings. Every time I grab a rebound, that's a record,

1294
00:53:53,400 --> 00:53:55,000
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. It's a new record. I

1295
00:53:55,040 --> 00:53:57,640
Speaker 3: grab one, that's a record. Yeah, you know what I'm saying.

1296
00:53:57,680 --> 00:54:00,000
Speaker 3: So for me, So for me, you know what I'm saying.

1297
00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:01,640
Speaker 3: I just you know what I'm saying. I want to

1298
00:54:01,640 --> 00:54:03,680
Speaker 3: see these boy has it, says Man. You know what

1299
00:54:03,719 --> 00:54:08,360
Speaker 3: I'm saying. Rebound that's the record. I'll be yelling at record.

1300
00:54:09,080 --> 00:54:12,319
Speaker 3: That's a record. You know what I'm saying. So Yeah,

1301
00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:14,480
Speaker 3: for me, I just want them boys to it, says Man.

1302
00:54:14,600 --> 00:54:16,719
Speaker 3: So I like my emotions go up and down with

1303
00:54:16,760 --> 00:54:18,480
Speaker 3: them boys while they on the court, man, and the

1304
00:54:18,560 --> 00:54:20,280
Speaker 3: things that we're working on. I worked with them before,

1305
00:54:20,480 --> 00:54:22,080
Speaker 3: I work with them after practice, because to me, that's

1306
00:54:22,080 --> 00:54:24,520
Speaker 3: like my game. That's why I get my my fulfillment

1307
00:54:24,960 --> 00:54:26,799
Speaker 3: is working with them and practicing with them and going

1308
00:54:26,800 --> 00:54:28,520
Speaker 3: through stuff with them, and then when we step on

1309
00:54:28,520 --> 00:54:29,800
Speaker 3: the court. You know, I want to see that stuff

1310
00:54:29,840 --> 00:54:33,160
Speaker 3: matterfest Man. But like I said, we had ogs. Man,

1311
00:54:33,320 --> 00:54:35,600
Speaker 3: I just feel like it's not too many O G's,

1312
00:54:35,680 --> 00:54:37,919
Speaker 3: like you said in the NBA right now, Man, it's

1313
00:54:37,960 --> 00:54:39,920
Speaker 3: not they need that because a lot of these kids,

1314
00:54:39,960 --> 00:54:41,839
Speaker 3: like you said, when we grew up, sometimes you might

1315
00:54:41,840 --> 00:54:43,120
Speaker 3: not have had a father figure, but you had a

1316
00:54:43,160 --> 00:54:44,880
Speaker 3: O G. When you're in this NBA life man, or

1317
00:54:44,960 --> 00:54:46,840
Speaker 3: daddy can't tell you nothing about being an NBA player

1318
00:54:47,200 --> 00:54:49,200
Speaker 3: when you when you in this NBA life, man, your

1319
00:54:49,239 --> 00:54:51,440
Speaker 3: daddy can't tell you about being an NBA player. You

1320
00:54:51,480 --> 00:54:54,359
Speaker 3: don't know that. You don't know that lifestyle, and ain't

1321
00:54:54,360 --> 00:54:57,640
Speaker 3: nobody could prepare you for that, not not nobody except

1322
00:54:57,640 --> 00:54:59,600
Speaker 3: somebody that there been there and that's been in it.

1323
00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:02,600
Speaker 3: If he's with you every day, on you, every day,

1324
00:55:02,960 --> 00:55:04,920
Speaker 3: in your ear every day, you know what I'm saying,

1325
00:55:04,960 --> 00:55:07,120
Speaker 3: you can't help. But if, especially if it's somebody like

1326
00:55:07,160 --> 00:55:09,840
Speaker 3: me that's coming with you know not only the knowledge,

1327
00:55:09,840 --> 00:55:12,359
Speaker 3: but the credentials to back it up. I ain't coming

1328
00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:14,600
Speaker 3: to you on th shit. I'm on that. I ain't

1329
00:55:14,640 --> 00:55:17,719
Speaker 3: no coach. I'm wanted y'all, but I'm gonna tell you

1330
00:55:17,760 --> 00:55:19,120
Speaker 3: what's best for they way you like it or not.

1331
00:55:19,320 --> 00:55:20,799
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. These dudes trust me, man.

1332
00:55:20,800 --> 00:55:22,040
Speaker 3: I look him in that all the time. I say,

1333
00:55:22,080 --> 00:55:24,960
Speaker 3: if you trust me, listen you bullshit tonight start bullshit. Man.

1334
00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:27,840
Speaker 3: It's just a championship level way to talk to these boys. Man. So,

1335
00:55:27,960 --> 00:55:30,480
Speaker 3: like I said, just understanding these dudes, man, you got

1336
00:55:30,520 --> 00:55:32,560
Speaker 3: to understand how you could how you get that message

1337
00:55:32,560 --> 00:55:36,080
Speaker 3: across to everybody because everybody different. Man, all go up,

1338
00:55:36,800 --> 00:55:38,920
Speaker 3: get real, yeah, yeah for show. Like you know what

1339
00:55:38,960 --> 00:55:41,120
Speaker 3: I'm saying, Like you always took the mentality, man, Like

1340
00:55:41,200 --> 00:55:43,360
Speaker 3: everything I took personal, you know what I'm saying. On

1341
00:55:43,400 --> 00:55:46,040
Speaker 3: the basketball court, everything I took person. Yeah. Man, if

1342
00:55:46,080 --> 00:55:47,759
Speaker 3: it wasn't a chip out there on my shoulder, I

1343
00:55:47,800 --> 00:55:50,040
Speaker 3: find me one just to be motivated, you know what

1344
00:55:50,040 --> 00:55:55,680
Speaker 3: I'm saying. I was just like I'll find something, yeah, man,

1345
00:55:56,600 --> 00:55:59,160
Speaker 3: just so I can be competit to call and get it, dude,

1346
00:55:59,160 --> 00:56:02,120
Speaker 3: no shortcut. I used to call me angry, angry black man,

1347
00:56:02,560 --> 00:56:06,960
Speaker 3: angry something man. Yeah. You played with a lot of

1348
00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:09,200
Speaker 3: players like it had to be man, I had to

1349
00:56:09,200 --> 00:56:10,680
Speaker 3: be angry. Played with a lot of players.

1350
00:56:10,680 --> 00:56:13,160
Speaker 2: And you've seen a lot of basketball coming up through

1351
00:56:13,160 --> 00:56:14,440
Speaker 2: the rankings and all that stuff.

1352
00:56:15,120 --> 00:56:18,279
Speaker 3: Who was like that one person? She was like it

1353
00:56:18,360 --> 00:56:19,520
Speaker 3: was like a walking bucket.

1354
00:56:19,960 --> 00:56:21,320
Speaker 2: Like every time you see he was like, man, he

1355
00:56:21,440 --> 00:56:23,360
Speaker 2: scored with the best of him.

1356
00:56:23,800 --> 00:56:28,400
Speaker 3: God bless his soul. Rassoue. Butler. Bob used to get buckets.

1357
00:56:29,120 --> 00:56:31,439
Speaker 3: I remember, He'll sit a whole quarter with the heat

1358
00:56:31,480 --> 00:56:34,879
Speaker 3: and stand and put him in It's like post pop

1359
00:56:36,200 --> 00:56:39,680
Speaker 3: three pop one you pull up pop like. He was

1360
00:56:39,760 --> 00:56:41,759
Speaker 3: just like a quick bucket like not even need no

1361
00:56:41,800 --> 00:56:43,480
Speaker 3: one up. I always had to get one. I ain't

1362
00:56:43,520 --> 00:56:46,680
Speaker 3: never been nobody just put me in after three quarters

1363
00:56:46,680 --> 00:56:49,400
Speaker 3: are not playing, I'm just gonna be the microwave Vinnie Johnson,

1364
00:56:49,520 --> 00:56:51,640
Speaker 3: like you know what I'm saying. Like Bob was a

1365
00:56:51,680 --> 00:56:52,680
Speaker 3: bucket rass Sue.

1366
00:56:52,760 --> 00:56:55,160
Speaker 2: Butler was one of them dudes like like you two.

1367
00:56:55,480 --> 00:56:57,640
Speaker 2: Every time I seen him, it was right back where

1368
00:56:57,640 --> 00:56:59,239
Speaker 2: we left off. He was like a good just a

1369
00:56:59,239 --> 00:57:04,399
Speaker 2: good dude, great dude, always like breaking up confusing, like nah,

1370
00:57:04,520 --> 00:57:05,200
Speaker 2: we ain't on that.

1371
00:57:05,560 --> 00:57:08,880
Speaker 3: Like he was always just like a great, good dude,

1372
00:57:09,080 --> 00:57:11,919
Speaker 3: good dude, man, George. I got some time to spend

1373
00:57:11,960 --> 00:57:14,040
Speaker 3: with him, and obviously when he was here, we hung

1374
00:57:14,080 --> 00:57:15,880
Speaker 3: out a lot. And like you said, you know, anytime

1375
00:57:15,920 --> 00:57:18,360
Speaker 3: you hear and you're hanging out and you're good, like

1376
00:57:18,400 --> 00:57:20,080
Speaker 3: I had that relationship with him, and we had that

1377
00:57:20,120 --> 00:57:21,640
Speaker 3: same relationship when I went out to Philly. You know,

1378
00:57:21,680 --> 00:57:23,720
Speaker 3: I spent some time hanging out in Philly and then

1379
00:57:23,760 --> 00:57:25,520
Speaker 3: he took me in and I met his family, and

1380
00:57:25,600 --> 00:57:27,880
Speaker 3: it's just the same thing. Man. So when you think

1381
00:57:27,920 --> 00:57:29,880
Speaker 3: about you know, I've seen a lot of guys that's

1382
00:57:29,880 --> 00:57:32,520
Speaker 3: been able to do it. John Wallace, we talked about John.

1383
00:57:32,880 --> 00:57:35,560
Speaker 3: He was an instant buck quick you know what I'm saying,

1384
00:57:35,560 --> 00:57:40,560
Speaker 3: even when he was older, job he was a buck

1385
00:57:41,160 --> 00:57:43,560
Speaker 3: like quick on your ass. But whatever you want. He like,

1386
00:57:43,600 --> 00:57:45,640
Speaker 3: I said, you talking about l O talking ship? Him

1387
00:57:45,640 --> 00:57:47,520
Speaker 3: and Llo talk ship all day and they get into that.

1388
00:57:47,720 --> 00:57:50,840
Speaker 3: Come on, son, you got his son every time. You

1389
00:57:50,880 --> 00:57:54,560
Speaker 3: know what, you know it's signing ship. They talking to

1390
00:57:54,600 --> 00:57:57,720
Speaker 3: each other. I don't know what Llo had one they

1391
00:57:57,720 --> 00:57:59,520
Speaker 3: got to play with now the practice they got to

1392
00:57:59,520 --> 00:58:02,160
Speaker 3: play one one for an hour and a half. You

1393
00:58:02,320 --> 00:58:03,440
Speaker 3: got his son, you know it?

1394
00:58:03,600 --> 00:58:03,880
Speaker 1: Son?

1395
00:58:04,160 --> 00:58:07,919
Speaker 3: You know that big give of you buckets. So yeah,

1396
00:58:07,960 --> 00:58:10,880
Speaker 3: that was always funny. What do you think about Bro

1397
00:58:11,000 --> 00:58:11,800
Speaker 3: with the braids?

1398
00:58:12,520 --> 00:58:15,600
Speaker 1: Because you the original braid guy. You stay with them

1399
00:58:15,680 --> 00:58:18,760
Speaker 1: straight backs. I know you cut them ever coming back?

1400
00:58:18,800 --> 00:58:21,479
Speaker 1: And what do you think of the Wade with the braid?

1401
00:58:21,640 --> 00:58:24,000
Speaker 3: Bro? One last dance come with the mid life crisis.

1402
00:58:26,400 --> 00:58:29,720
Speaker 3: He gonna pull up with a red red with the motorcycles.

1403
00:58:29,760 --> 00:58:32,960
Speaker 3: Red dude got you got it with a leather jacket.

1404
00:58:33,000 --> 00:58:38,520
Speaker 3: In a week, rag On said, now what you going through?

1405
00:58:38,520 --> 00:58:40,160
Speaker 3: A men likes and let me pull up with a

1406
00:58:40,240 --> 00:58:42,720
Speaker 3: red du Catti, ride a motorcycle in a week boy.

1407
00:58:43,000 --> 00:58:44,800
Speaker 3: And the one thing I always respect about the man,

1408
00:58:44,800 --> 00:58:47,120
Speaker 3: he always been with whatever it was he wanted to

1409
00:58:47,120 --> 00:58:50,840
Speaker 3: do fashion wise. Yeah, one day I told him, I said,

1410
00:58:51,120 --> 00:58:52,640
Speaker 3: one day, I pull him to the side. I say, man,

1411
00:58:52,640 --> 00:58:59,120
Speaker 3: don't nobody never tell you no. He said, no. Bro.

1412
00:58:59,200 --> 00:59:03,200
Speaker 3: One time said I'm I think it was my five ass.

1413
00:59:03,280 --> 00:59:08,000
Speaker 1: If you think one of them was doing the big three,

1414
00:59:08,160 --> 00:59:09,840
Speaker 1: he would one of them things. Well, I think it

1415
00:59:09,920 --> 00:59:12,280
Speaker 1: was like some pink or some salmon pans, and the

1416
00:59:12,400 --> 00:59:14,320
Speaker 1: thing was so tight. I hit him after the game,

1417
00:59:14,360 --> 00:59:16,840
Speaker 1: I say, come on that dog, what's you He said,

1418
00:59:16,840 --> 00:59:19,040
Speaker 1: hold on, this will hit me back when he said, y'all,

1419
00:59:19,400 --> 00:59:20,640
Speaker 1: I do this because I can't.

1420
00:59:21,080 --> 00:59:23,400
Speaker 3: I ain't gonna lie. I ain't gonna lie you're talking about.

1421
00:59:23,560 --> 00:59:27,600
Speaker 3: I ain't gonna lie to somewhat you up a little

1422
00:59:27,600 --> 00:59:30,760
Speaker 3: bit changed, somewhat fitted up. But I saw you on

1423
00:59:30,840 --> 00:59:34,360
Speaker 3: the right away in the hood. Was telling us you.

1424
00:59:34,520 --> 00:59:43,640
Speaker 4: Change and little tight little shirts man shirt, but it

1425
00:59:43,800 --> 00:59:44,640
Speaker 4: just be a little more.

1426
00:59:45,000 --> 00:59:49,120
Speaker 3: Your pans be tight like it's it's just like it

1427
00:59:49,320 --> 00:59:51,280
Speaker 3: just be a little fitted man, that's all. It don't

1428
00:59:51,360 --> 00:59:53,840
Speaker 3: be tight like that, man. But like I said, man,

1429
00:59:53,880 --> 00:59:56,320
Speaker 3: he ain't never been afraid to try stuff fashion wise,

1430
00:59:56,360 --> 00:59:58,640
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. That's why he's become so influential.

1431
00:59:58,680 --> 00:59:59,920
Speaker 3: You know a lot of this stuff these boys do.

1432
01:00:00,040 --> 01:00:01,760
Speaker 3: One I told them to day, I said, I blame you, man.

1433
01:00:02,360 --> 01:00:03,840
Speaker 3: Then I took what you did, and that went too

1434
01:00:03,880 --> 01:00:09,040
Speaker 3: damn fun. They started where you started and with too

1435
01:00:09,160 --> 01:00:11,880
Speaker 3: damn fun. I don't know what to say about it

1436
01:00:11,920 --> 01:00:14,360
Speaker 3: these days. Nah, but man, you know what I tell them.

1437
01:00:14,480 --> 01:00:16,080
Speaker 3: But you know what I'm saying, it's all fun, you

1438
01:00:16,120 --> 01:00:17,600
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. Like I said, man, like I

1439
01:00:17,640 --> 01:00:20,160
Speaker 3: told you, man, outside of what you know what I'm saying,

1440
01:00:20,240 --> 01:00:22,160
Speaker 3: they doing on the basketball court. And when we got

1441
01:00:22,200 --> 01:00:24,200
Speaker 3: to a certain situations, Man, the kids are not allowed

1442
01:00:24,240 --> 01:00:26,240
Speaker 3: to have fun. No more so. I see a lot

1443
01:00:26,240 --> 01:00:28,640
Speaker 3: of people having fun with the way they're dressing and

1444
01:00:28,680 --> 01:00:30,560
Speaker 3: with their fashion and even with the music. Man, Like

1445
01:00:30,600 --> 01:00:32,600
Speaker 3: the music we used to listen to is you know

1446
01:00:32,640 --> 01:00:35,040
Speaker 3: a lot more aggressive. You know this music they listen to.

1447
01:00:35,040 --> 01:00:38,200
Speaker 3: They can dance and it's live, it's live. You know

1448
01:00:38,200 --> 01:00:39,920
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. They doing all that, you know what

1449
01:00:39,960 --> 01:00:42,520
Speaker 3: I'm saying. So that's they can have fun with it.

1450
01:00:42,880 --> 01:00:44,360
Speaker 3: We listened to it that we wouldn't have it. We

1451
01:00:44,360 --> 01:00:46,800
Speaker 3: weren't really dancing like that. But since you're saying about music,

1452
01:00:46,880 --> 01:00:47,560
Speaker 3: let me ask you this.

1453
01:00:47,960 --> 01:00:50,400
Speaker 2: If you stranding on the island and you only can

1454
01:00:50,480 --> 01:00:54,000
Speaker 2: have five albums, what would be your five albums?

1455
01:00:54,040 --> 01:00:59,080
Speaker 3: On me? Oh, Tupac Tupac definitely one got he got

1456
01:00:59,120 --> 01:01:03,760
Speaker 3: the hoodie on right now? On me? Definitely one get

1457
01:01:03,880 --> 01:01:07,160
Speaker 3: rich of that trying fifty cents? That was hard? On

1458
01:01:07,200 --> 01:01:10,400
Speaker 3: that drop Book of Thugs chapter AK, verse forty seven.

1459
01:01:10,520 --> 01:01:12,080
Speaker 3: That's my third one. That's the one I want. Book

1460
01:01:12,080 --> 01:01:15,480
Speaker 3: A Thugs Chapter AK thirty seven. Yes, theub Motivation will

1461
01:01:15,560 --> 01:01:18,800
Speaker 3: be my next one. That's so right, all right? That's

1462
01:01:18,920 --> 01:01:25,200
Speaker 3: U and five. See, And I'm gonna be honest with you, man,

1463
01:01:26,440 --> 01:01:31,280
Speaker 3: I didn't really listen to too much New York music, you know,

1464
01:01:31,400 --> 01:01:33,120
Speaker 3: growing up. You know what I'm saying. I wasn't really

1465
01:01:33,160 --> 01:01:36,120
Speaker 3: introduced until I got with the Miami Heat. So I

1466
01:01:36,120 --> 01:01:38,600
Speaker 3: would have to say Jay Z one of my favorite

1467
01:01:38,640 --> 01:01:41,520
Speaker 3: artists is And it's hard to pick an album, you

1468
01:01:41,560 --> 01:01:43,520
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, Nah, because I would go for

1469
01:01:43,600 --> 01:01:46,960
Speaker 3: back further, you know, toil. Yeah, you know what I'm saying,

1470
01:01:47,200 --> 01:01:49,160
Speaker 3: I would go back to a reasonable doubt blue you

1471
01:01:49,280 --> 01:01:51,280
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. The blueprint is another one. But

1472
01:01:51,320 --> 01:01:52,560
Speaker 3: if I had to say my favorite, I would have

1473
01:01:52,560 --> 01:01:55,160
Speaker 3: to say reasonable doubt. I used to wake up to that,

1474
01:01:55,240 --> 01:01:56,720
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. You know, back in the

1475
01:01:56,760 --> 01:01:59,640
Speaker 3: day when you had the old school DVD player, I

1476
01:01:59,720 --> 01:02:01,440
Speaker 3: put the ship in there and set the alarm, and

1477
01:02:01,440 --> 01:02:04,040
Speaker 3: when that ship come on and be reasonable that played.

1478
01:02:04,200 --> 01:02:05,360
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, the track, you know what

1479
01:02:05,360 --> 01:02:08,080
Speaker 3: I'm saying, skit and then it just come to start playing,

1480
01:02:08,120 --> 01:02:10,959
Speaker 3: big man, big man, that ship come on, that ship

1481
01:02:11,000 --> 01:02:12,800
Speaker 3: take off, and I wake up and start my day

1482
01:02:12,840 --> 01:02:15,320
Speaker 3: to day straight up, straight up.

1483
01:02:15,520 --> 01:02:20,600
Speaker 2: Miami Heat got them, Miami Vice jerseys like them, some

1484
01:02:20,800 --> 01:02:23,240
Speaker 2: dope jersey and one of the dopest jersey in the league.

1485
01:02:23,280 --> 01:02:26,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, so that took off. That thing took off.

1486
01:02:26,800 --> 01:02:31,120
Speaker 2: Ah, the Jerseys in the nineties better than the jerseys now.

1487
01:02:31,880 --> 01:02:36,200
Speaker 3: No, No, I think you know, the Jersey's now just

1488
01:02:36,240 --> 01:02:38,760
Speaker 3: allowed a lot more creativity. I think the jerseys back

1489
01:02:38,840 --> 01:02:42,520
Speaker 3: then you either had some cursive or just regular big,

1490
01:02:42,600 --> 01:02:45,760
Speaker 3: bigger glass letters. I think now, I think now they're

1491
01:02:45,840 --> 01:02:47,800
Speaker 3: just being a little more creative, you know, coming with

1492
01:02:47,920 --> 01:02:50,320
Speaker 3: way more color waves. Yeah, you know what I'm saying,

1493
01:02:50,400 --> 01:02:53,600
Speaker 3: different sets the color waves is crazy, you know what

1494
01:02:53,640 --> 01:02:56,840
Speaker 3: I'm saying. And you know when they dropped the Vice jersey,

1495
01:02:58,800 --> 01:03:00,920
Speaker 3: no mistaken who's on with first one to sell out?

1496
01:03:00,960 --> 01:03:02,880
Speaker 3: When them things hit the market, let me ask you,

1497
01:03:02,960 --> 01:03:05,560
Speaker 3: this showed me love my city, They take care of me.

1498
01:03:05,680 --> 01:03:08,120
Speaker 2: Let me ask you this what people ask want your jersey?

1499
01:03:08,920 --> 01:03:11,160
Speaker 2: Do they be like, yeah, I want that Advice one.

1500
01:03:11,480 --> 01:03:12,400
Speaker 2: I don't really want that.

1501
01:03:13,800 --> 01:03:15,640
Speaker 3: Look like when you give me one, give me that vice.

1502
01:03:16,080 --> 01:03:18,400
Speaker 3: I had requests for the Vice to show for sure,

1503
01:03:18,720 --> 01:03:20,840
Speaker 3: like definitely. When them things hit the scene, everybody hit

1504
01:03:20,880 --> 01:03:22,440
Speaker 3: me up and I'm like, damn, I don't really got

1505
01:03:22,640 --> 01:03:24,200
Speaker 3: I guess they felt like I had to plug and

1506
01:03:24,240 --> 01:03:26,760
Speaker 3: I do. But it's like, you know what I'm saying,

1507
01:03:26,840 --> 01:03:28,960
Speaker 3: Like if I get it for you, then like you

1508
01:03:29,000 --> 01:03:33,720
Speaker 3: ain't really supporting me. I'm supporting your damn. Like you

1509
01:03:33,720 --> 01:03:35,640
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. So a lot of people ask

1510
01:03:35,680 --> 01:03:37,480
Speaker 3: for those Vice jodys. But then I think they came

1511
01:03:37,520 --> 01:03:40,400
Speaker 3: out with like some shoes people had, like MX's that

1512
01:03:40,520 --> 01:03:42,360
Speaker 3: mastered themond. So you know what I'm saying, It was

1513
01:03:42,400 --> 01:03:44,280
Speaker 3: a whole little movement, man, But he did they thing

1514
01:03:44,320 --> 01:03:47,200
Speaker 3: with that though, the thing with that, that Minmi vice

1515
01:03:47,240 --> 01:03:49,560
Speaker 3: thing went hard. He would you say, better in the

1516
01:03:49,720 --> 01:03:58,360
Speaker 3: nineties or now, pat Riley? Oh, g Pat, that's a

1517
01:03:58,400 --> 01:04:03,880
Speaker 3: good question. Pat been great for a long time. I

1518
01:04:03,920 --> 01:04:07,919
Speaker 3: don't have to say now. Just getting better with it now? Yeah,

1519
01:04:08,280 --> 01:04:11,320
Speaker 3: because you know what, he ain't boored with it. You

1520
01:04:11,320 --> 01:04:13,200
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. He probably more motivated now than

1521
01:04:13,240 --> 01:04:15,760
Speaker 3: he ever was. You know what I'm saying. And we

1522
01:04:15,880 --> 01:04:17,760
Speaker 3: all know what it is to be motivated. We all

1523
01:04:17,800 --> 01:04:19,240
Speaker 3: know how it feel to be motivated, you know what

1524
01:04:19,280 --> 01:04:21,360
Speaker 3: I'm saying. And he's motivated to take you know, this

1525
01:04:21,480 --> 01:04:24,080
Speaker 3: team and this organization back to a championship level. Man.

1526
01:04:24,400 --> 01:04:26,360
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. I can't have a conversation

1527
01:04:26,400 --> 01:04:28,760
Speaker 3: without Pat without walking away with some sort of wisdom

1528
01:04:28,960 --> 01:04:31,080
Speaker 3: in some shape, form or fashion, you know what I'm saying.

1529
01:04:31,440 --> 01:04:34,040
Speaker 3: And that's why, you know, I've been so fortunate in

1530
01:04:34,080 --> 01:04:36,160
Speaker 3: this league. And that's why when people say about going

1531
01:04:36,200 --> 01:04:38,240
Speaker 3: and playing somewhere else, man, I just got things here

1532
01:04:38,600 --> 01:04:40,720
Speaker 3: that money came by. People talk about where you're going

1533
01:04:40,720 --> 01:04:42,720
Speaker 3: for dinner, and I'll be like, I'm going to my stepmama,

1534
01:04:42,760 --> 01:04:45,200
Speaker 3: house where you going. You know what I'm saying, how

1535
01:04:45,280 --> 01:04:47,160
Speaker 3: much you're paying because whatever you paying for it ain't

1536
01:04:47,160 --> 01:04:49,280
Speaker 3: gonna be like what I'm gonna eat tonight, you know

1537
01:04:49,400 --> 01:04:52,040
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. So, you know, I just it's just

1538
01:04:52,080 --> 01:04:54,040
Speaker 3: certain luxuries. Man, It's a certain luxury to be able

1539
01:04:54,040 --> 01:04:55,760
Speaker 3: to sit down and you know what I'm saying, before

1540
01:04:55,760 --> 01:04:57,840
Speaker 3: we before y'all came. You know what I'm saying, We're

1541
01:04:57,840 --> 01:05:01,160
Speaker 3: sitting down here, we at the gambling table. It's my

1542
01:05:01,240 --> 01:05:03,160
Speaker 3: gambling table. We done moved it over. It's where the

1543
01:05:03,160 --> 01:05:05,280
Speaker 3: poker and the dice and all that go down, you

1544
01:05:05,320 --> 01:05:07,240
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. So it's fortunate. I'm fortunate to

1545
01:05:07,280 --> 01:05:09,720
Speaker 3: have the homeboys over and to do that, you know

1546
01:05:09,720 --> 01:05:12,320
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. And I have those moments, so you know,

1547
01:05:12,440 --> 01:05:15,160
Speaker 3: for me, man, money came by those things like that. Man,

1548
01:05:15,400 --> 01:05:16,920
Speaker 3: they came by that. You know what I'm saying. I

1549
01:05:16,920 --> 01:05:18,960
Speaker 3: faced good everywhere here, you know what I mean.

1550
01:05:18,920 --> 01:05:23,720
Speaker 2: Everywhere Florida rappers better in the nineties or better now.

1551
01:05:26,840 --> 01:05:31,600
Speaker 3: Now. Definitely now, you know, you know, I think Ross

1552
01:05:31,640 --> 01:05:34,200
Speaker 3: has taken it to another level. You know, double first,

1553
01:05:34,560 --> 01:05:37,280
Speaker 3: you know, obviously Luke had that movement. You know what

1554
01:05:37,320 --> 01:05:41,000
Speaker 3: I'm saying with the base insteadies. He came out in

1555
01:05:41,000 --> 01:05:46,520
Speaker 3: the nineties, yeah, yeah, but his best music was close

1556
01:05:46,560 --> 01:05:48,840
Speaker 3: to it the late nineties, early two thousands when I

1557
01:05:48,880 --> 01:05:51,440
Speaker 3: was in college. You know, Luke came out. You know

1558
01:05:51,480 --> 01:05:53,479
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. He was like, he went to court,

1559
01:05:53,560 --> 01:05:55,440
Speaker 3: fought for freedom of speech. You know what I'm saying.

1560
01:05:55,480 --> 01:05:58,240
Speaker 3: Shout out to uncle Luke Man, that's you know what

1561
01:05:58,280 --> 01:06:01,480
Speaker 3: I'm saying, Tell that story. Yeah, he he fought for

1562
01:06:01,520 --> 01:06:04,200
Speaker 3: freedom of speech. Man went to court and put his

1563
01:06:04,320 --> 01:06:06,280
Speaker 3: reputation and put everything on the line so we could

1564
01:06:06,280 --> 01:06:07,440
Speaker 3: be able to say what we want to say on

1565
01:06:07,520 --> 01:06:10,200
Speaker 3: his track. Then we was always known for booty music

1566
01:06:10,240 --> 01:06:12,040
Speaker 3: and bass music, and then Trick took her to that

1567
01:06:12,160 --> 01:06:14,600
Speaker 3: next level with that third music. And then we had

1568
01:06:14,720 --> 01:06:16,480
Speaker 3: Ross who grad up the time. He just took us

1569
01:06:16,520 --> 01:06:18,720
Speaker 3: to another level with the same type of music, but

1570
01:06:19,040 --> 01:06:21,520
Speaker 3: just a little more articulate with just how he doing things.

1571
01:06:21,560 --> 01:06:24,200
Speaker 3: And now we're talking businesses. Now we talked you know

1572
01:06:24,240 --> 01:06:26,760
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. You know, fast cars, Now we're talking this,

1573
01:06:26,840 --> 01:06:29,440
Speaker 3: that and the third we just got guys that's just

1574
01:06:29,480 --> 01:06:31,680
Speaker 3: carrying the torch and just passing it along. You know

1575
01:06:31,720 --> 01:06:34,120
Speaker 3: what I'm saying, look at city girls, what they're doing

1576
01:06:34,120 --> 01:06:36,560
Speaker 3: and success that they haven't right now. Yeah, I'm saying,

1577
01:06:36,800 --> 01:06:39,640
Speaker 3: obviously there's no city girls without the success of Trina.

1578
01:06:39,800 --> 01:06:41,160
Speaker 3: You know, the torch is being passed.

1579
01:06:41,160 --> 01:06:41,280
Speaker 4: Man.

1580
01:06:41,320 --> 01:06:42,760
Speaker 3: I'm just good to see that. Man, it's a lot

1581
01:06:42,760 --> 01:06:50,400
Speaker 3: of the young dudes. Yes, yes, yess up. Money that

1582
01:06:50,640 --> 01:06:53,640
Speaker 3: right there is probably if I'm being probably honest, that's

1583
01:06:53,640 --> 01:06:56,200
Speaker 3: probably my favorite rapper from a We used to bump

1584
01:06:56,240 --> 01:06:58,440
Speaker 3: there to Saint Louis is probably my favorite rapper from

1585
01:06:58,520 --> 01:07:03,360
Speaker 3: Saint Lewis is like half country, have Midwest, half West coach.

1586
01:07:03,640 --> 01:07:05,760
Speaker 3: We like all over the place. If I'm not if

1587
01:07:05,760 --> 01:07:08,919
Speaker 3: I'm being honest, he's probably my favorite past We still

1588
01:07:08,920 --> 01:07:11,240
Speaker 3: bump j T Man to this day, straight up to

1589
01:07:11,280 --> 01:07:13,840
Speaker 3: this day, and JT definitely from Miami. That's the homie too.

1590
01:07:14,000 --> 01:07:15,760
Speaker 3: You know. I have the opportunity to hang out with

1591
01:07:15,800 --> 01:07:19,000
Speaker 3: all like like the new kids, like Kodak Black. I

1592
01:07:19,040 --> 01:07:21,880
Speaker 3: love Kodak. I love Kodak if when I listen to

1593
01:07:21,880 --> 01:07:23,800
Speaker 3: the new generation, Kodak is one of the ones I

1594
01:07:23,840 --> 01:07:25,960
Speaker 3: listened to. I don't listen to too many, but Kodak

1595
01:07:25,960 --> 01:07:27,600
Speaker 3: went on. You know what I'm saying, I got I

1596
01:07:27,600 --> 01:07:30,040
Speaker 3: got mad love for Kodak Man, Kodak straight and he

1597
01:07:30,120 --> 01:07:32,360
Speaker 3: love the Gators. You know I'm a Gator, So you

1598
01:07:32,400 --> 01:07:34,600
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, Man, I vibe with Kodak Man.

1599
01:07:34,800 --> 01:07:38,240
Speaker 3: My kids put me on that they think I ain't

1600
01:07:38,280 --> 01:07:40,080
Speaker 3: supposed to listen to what they listen to though, so

1601
01:07:40,720 --> 01:07:45,520
Speaker 3: I probably I play Kodak. I sneak and play Kodak. Well.

1602
01:07:45,520 --> 01:07:49,520
Speaker 3: Appreciate you clumbing, appreciate you job boys have man, y'all

1603
01:07:49,560 --> 01:07:51,320
Speaker 3: asked me to be on here. I was excited, boy,

1604
01:07:51,600 --> 01:07:53,280
Speaker 3: you know, and then make it and be honest. I

1605
01:07:53,720 --> 01:07:55,400
Speaker 3: don't be asked to be on a couple of podcasts,

1606
01:07:55,400 --> 01:07:58,000
Speaker 3: bro outside of like podcasts for like the Heat, or

1607
01:07:58,000 --> 01:08:00,560
Speaker 3: they asked me to do something for sports, something I

1608
01:08:00,560 --> 01:08:03,400
Speaker 3: ain't done nobody else. Podcast. It's the first podcast that

1609
01:08:03,440 --> 01:08:05,960
Speaker 3: I've done outside of like sports related and stuff that

1610
01:08:06,000 --> 01:08:07,680
Speaker 3: I had to do for my job. Like I was

1611
01:08:07,720 --> 01:08:09,960
Speaker 3: honored to be on y'all boys podcast.

1612
01:08:10,040 --> 01:08:12,200
Speaker 2: Like you know what I'm saying, you man, and show

1613
01:08:12,240 --> 01:08:15,280
Speaker 2: you the love that you deserve, like you know, these

1614
01:08:15,280 --> 01:08:17,400
Speaker 2: folks don't know like the hard work you put in

1615
01:08:17,520 --> 01:08:20,160
Speaker 2: and you know you came up and what you came

1616
01:08:20,200 --> 01:08:23,240
Speaker 2: through and how you represented a state that you've been

1617
01:08:23,280 --> 01:08:24,639
Speaker 2: living in your whole life.

1618
01:08:24,720 --> 01:08:28,120
Speaker 3: Literally got to tatting on my back every literally got

1619
01:08:28,120 --> 01:08:30,840
Speaker 3: to stay on my back game. So y'all And like

1620
01:08:30,880 --> 01:08:33,280
Speaker 3: I said, man, real recognize real man, Like, ain't nobody

1621
01:08:33,320 --> 01:08:35,960
Speaker 3: getting on this podcast to talk to no phonies and fixed, Man,

1622
01:08:35,960 --> 01:08:37,680
Speaker 3: I ain't with all that. I got bad things to do.

1623
01:08:37,760 --> 01:08:39,720
Speaker 3: My son had a baseball game, and you know what

1624
01:08:39,760 --> 01:08:42,639
Speaker 3: I'm saying, So we respect that I got for y'all

1625
01:08:43,160 --> 01:08:46,120
Speaker 3: is beyond the game of basketball. And that's why, like

1626
01:08:46,560 --> 01:08:48,920
Speaker 3: I'm here on this podcast doing this with y'all. Man like,

1627
01:08:49,240 --> 01:08:51,479
Speaker 3: it's love, bro, like it is what it is, man Like,

1628
01:08:51,520 --> 01:08:53,680
Speaker 3: I respect that because it ain't like that out here

1629
01:08:53,720 --> 01:08:56,479
Speaker 3: in these days. You know what I'm saying, You know how? Yeah,

1630
01:08:56,520 --> 01:09:00,120
Speaker 3: we all know how it is out here man son Yeah, man,

1631
01:09:00,000 --> 01:09:01,640
Speaker 3: And so you know what I'm saying, it's Jamine Bro.

1632
01:09:01,800 --> 01:09:05,200
Speaker 3: I appreciate you all having Bro for sure. For sure

1633
01:09:05,280 --> 01:09:07,479
Speaker 3: for sure Yo.

1634
01:09:07,640 --> 01:09:11,600
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1635
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1636
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