WEBVTT - Dream 18: Sand Valley 0:00:00.040 --> 0:00:02.800 I miss a green, for example, I'm already upset. When 0:00:02.800 --> 0:00:04.920 I find my ball in the bunker, I'm really upset. 0:00:05.000 --> 0:00:06.200 And when I find my ball in. 0:00:06.240 --> 0:00:09.479 A bride Egg Friday Egg, the dreaded Frida Egg, Frida Egg, 0:00:09.560 --> 0:00:12.559 Frida Egg Egg, fridagg Bride Egg Lie, I'm about ready 0:00:12.600 --> 0:00:34.920 to run off of the hump course. Welcome to the 0:00:34.920 --> 0:00:38.640 Friday Egg Golf Podcast. I'm Garrett Morrison, and today my 0:00:38.760 --> 0:00:41.479 co host Andy Johnson and I are doing a Sand 0:00:41.560 --> 0:00:45.680 Valley Dream eighteen. That means we're picking out our favorite 0:00:45.720 --> 0:00:50.200 holes from the Sand Valley Resorts, five courses at each number. 0:00:50.840 --> 0:00:55.160 Those courses now include Corn Crenshaw's Original Sand Valley, David 0:00:55.240 --> 0:00:59.800 McLay Kids, Mammoth Dunes, Corn Crenshaw's Sandbox Short Course, Tom 0:01:00.400 --> 0:01:04.040 New Sedge Valley, and on the private side, the recently 0:01:04.120 --> 0:01:09.920 opened recreation of CB McDonald's Ledo. There has been a 0:01:09.959 --> 0:01:13.400 lot happening at the Sand Valley Resort lately, a ton 0:01:13.440 --> 0:01:17.000 of new projects with a lot of architectural interest, and 0:01:17.280 --> 0:01:19.640 over the past several months, Andy and I have both 0:01:19.800 --> 0:01:22.600 spent a lot of time in Wisconsin keeping track of 0:01:22.680 --> 0:01:25.280 what's going on, so we thought it would be a 0:01:25.319 --> 0:01:29.360 good time to take stock Dream eighteen style and really 0:01:29.400 --> 0:01:32.840 talk about the resort in depth. Now, before we get 0:01:32.880 --> 0:01:35.520 to that, a quick word from our partner for this episode, 0:01:35.640 --> 0:01:38.520 ag One. 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That's drink ag one dot 0:03:00.480 --> 0:03:03.840 com slash the fried Egg. Check it out and let's 0:03:03.880 --> 0:03:10.160 get going with the Sand Valley Dream Made Team. 0:03:10.240 --> 0:03:15.079 All Right, we're back. We're doing the first ever podcast 0:03:15.240 --> 0:03:18.120 live podcast with two participants from the shed. 0:03:18.440 --> 0:03:19.560 We're both in the shed. 0:03:19.840 --> 0:03:22.919 Yeah. The shed, for those that don't know, is I 0:03:23.400 --> 0:03:27.400 record out of like a simple garden shed. We've made 0:03:27.440 --> 0:03:30.239 some improvements inside the shed, but you know, one of 0:03:30.240 --> 0:03:32.440 the big improvements now we can have two people on here. 0:03:32.480 --> 0:03:34.160 How do you like it, Garrett. 0:03:34.440 --> 0:03:36.960 I'm very impressed by the shed. I see that it 0:03:37.040 --> 0:03:38.840 might be called Sheddy Hacket. 0:03:39.120 --> 0:03:43.360 I think that's my name is as signs on the outside. 0:03:43.400 --> 0:03:45.600 You probably didn't catch it. It says shed quarters. 0:03:45.800 --> 0:03:48.480 It says shed Quarters. Oh sure, well I've seen pictures 0:03:48.480 --> 0:03:51.000 of that before. But yeah, I mean it's it's very 0:03:51.120 --> 0:03:55.200 nice inside, it's well appointed. You have really great art 0:03:55.280 --> 0:03:57.480 on the walls. Right behind your head is a what 0:03:57.520 --> 0:04:00.600 appears to be a signed picture of Lee Westwood next 0:04:00.600 --> 0:04:04.880 to a photo of a relatively obscure bulls center. 0:04:05.080 --> 0:04:09.680 Probably yeah, it's it's I have a collection of very 0:04:10.040 --> 0:04:13.560 mediocre bulls, signed bulls, big men. 0:04:13.760 --> 0:04:15.680 So that's that's Michael. 0:04:16.000 --> 0:04:23.440 That's Michael Sweetney Ford who could forget? Also have Tyrus Thomas, 0:04:23.480 --> 0:04:27.080 the same person that sent Sheeddy Hackett and shed Quarters 0:04:27.520 --> 0:04:31.520 uh sent these all these all. 0:04:30.880 --> 0:04:34.880 This great stuff. Yeah, there's a Sabotini picture, of course, 0:04:34.920 --> 0:04:37.880 and people have probably seen pictures of it of it online, 0:04:37.960 --> 0:04:40.599 but once you're inside, you realize there's a good amount 0:04:40.640 --> 0:04:43.400 of room in here, and it's actually really nicely laid out. 0:04:43.400 --> 0:04:45.240 I'm not sure if you cleaned up before I came. 0:04:45.680 --> 0:04:48.040 There's even a chair for your daughter right there, and 0:04:48.080 --> 0:04:50.600 so you've you've got it all set up. I'm pretty impressed. 0:04:50.680 --> 0:04:52.640 Well, we'll get to what we're going to talk about. 0:04:52.680 --> 0:04:55.240 But it was, I have a three year old, and 0:04:55.480 --> 0:04:59.720 you know, she's discovered TV and understands what TV is, 0:05:00.279 --> 0:05:03.920 and recently, you know, I had I had to. I was, 0:05:04.040 --> 0:05:05.720 I had a lot of work to do, and I 0:05:05.760 --> 0:05:07.600 had the three year old and I brought her out 0:05:07.640 --> 0:05:09.880 here and I have a TV in here, and I 0:05:09.920 --> 0:05:12.160 put the TV on. I put one of her shows on, 0:05:12.760 --> 0:05:15.480 and you know, she's really into the show Gabby's Dollhouse, 0:05:15.680 --> 0:05:20.120 and and she she like, you know, just in that excited, 0:05:20.320 --> 0:05:25.200 yelling child voice, was like, your TV gets Gabby Stallhouse too. 0:05:27.520 --> 0:05:31.280 The shed, TV, Yeah gets Gabby's Dollhouse. What else can 0:05:31.320 --> 0:05:31.760 you ask for? 0:05:31.920 --> 0:05:34.000 Now? She's always asking to come out to the shed, 0:05:34.240 --> 0:05:37.800 you know. So so anyways, yes, the shed. Uh, this 0:05:37.880 --> 0:05:39.960 is a this is a landmark moment in the history 0:05:39.960 --> 0:05:44.960 of Friday golf podcasts. So anyways, we're gonna talk. We're 0:05:45.000 --> 0:05:46.919 not talking about the shed for this podcast. 0:05:47.000 --> 0:05:48.919 No, that's not the topic of this podcast. 0:05:49.279 --> 0:05:53.039 Garrett, you spent you had two big trips to Sand 0:05:53.120 --> 0:05:56.599 Valley this year. It's a place that I've been a 0:05:56.720 --> 0:06:00.800 number of times, just my Midwest roots and you know, 0:06:01.080 --> 0:06:04.359 real quick anecdote story that I always like think about 0:06:04.560 --> 0:06:09.680 is the first Fried Egg golf trip as a business, 0:06:10.000 --> 0:06:13.200 as an entity, the first you know kind of trip 0:06:13.240 --> 0:06:16.200 that I went on. I went with some buddies and 0:06:16.240 --> 0:06:21.080 we played Sand Valley during their first year's preview play 0:06:21.360 --> 0:06:23.880 and they were operating out of a trailer. I think 0:06:23.920 --> 0:06:27.359 there was twelve holes available of the Sand Valley golf 0:06:27.400 --> 0:06:30.440 course and it was just just piles of sand everywhere 0:06:30.440 --> 0:06:32.920 you drove in, you parked by the trailer. It was 0:06:33.040 --> 0:06:35.680 really cool experience. But I think about it all the 0:06:35.720 --> 0:06:39.240 time as like that was where like that version of 0:06:39.839 --> 0:06:42.520 what we're what we do days of the of the 0:06:42.520 --> 0:06:45.719 podcast the company and I wrote it. I wrote an 0:06:45.800 --> 0:06:49.800 article about about the place, and it was just one 0:06:49.839 --> 0:06:52.320 of the first trips. And now every time I go back, 0:06:52.360 --> 0:06:54.440 I see all these new buildings, all these things are 0:06:54.440 --> 0:06:58.360 working on. It's a super super impressive build out and 0:06:58.600 --> 0:07:03.000 resort that's just continuing to get better every year that 0:07:02.440 --> 0:07:05.800 the Kaisers are behind. Michael and Chris the Sun's own 0:07:05.880 --> 0:07:10.200 it and this year they're adding to New Court. They 0:07:10.200 --> 0:07:13.640 added Lido this year that's tangentially connected to the resort 0:07:13.680 --> 0:07:17.640 that offers resort play and Sedge Valley, which I get 0:07:17.640 --> 0:07:21.120 to play all eighteen holes of last month that will 0:07:21.120 --> 0:07:24.280 be opening next year, which will be in a tremendous 0:07:24.840 --> 0:07:29.000 addition to the resort. So with you having visited a 0:07:29.000 --> 0:07:32.080 couple times this year, me having been there again this year, 0:07:32.560 --> 0:07:36.360 we figured we might do a little dream eighteen, similar 0:07:36.440 --> 0:07:38.560 to what we did with Bandon Dunes a couple of 0:07:38.600 --> 0:07:42.120 years ago. So with the winter ahead, I figure we 0:07:42.160 --> 0:07:46.440 can do Dream eighteen and some in depth course talks 0:07:47.040 --> 0:07:52.160 about one of the most heavily trafficked US golf resorts. 0:07:51.840 --> 0:07:57.040 Right, I mean too large populations. It's more accessible than 0:07:57.360 --> 0:07:59.840 Bandon Dunes, and if you think about it, like it. 0:07:59.840 --> 0:08:02.160 It might seem premature to do a Dream eteen for 0:08:02.200 --> 0:08:04.840 Sand Valley, but if you think about it, we did 0:08:04.840 --> 0:08:09.040 a dream ateen for Bandon Dunes, drawing from the five 0:08:09.200 --> 0:08:13.480 eighteen whole courses that existed there at the time. And 0:08:13.600 --> 0:08:16.760 now when you look at Sand Valley, we included the 0:08:16.800 --> 0:08:21.160 sandbox in our Dream eighteen and there are five courses 0:08:21.520 --> 0:08:26.200 to draw from. It's kind of unbelievable how quickly this 0:08:26.400 --> 0:08:29.320 resort has expanded. If you look at the Google Earth imagery, 0:08:30.480 --> 0:08:32.320 and anybody can do this, you need to download the 0:08:32.320 --> 0:08:36.720 Google Earth app. But if you look at how things 0:08:36.760 --> 0:08:41.079 have developed since twenty seventeen, basically twenty sixteen when they 0:08:41.080 --> 0:08:44.680 started building Sand Valley to now like it's just exploded. 0:08:45.360 --> 0:08:49.360 There was nothing there before, absolutely nothing but trees, right 0:08:49.480 --> 0:08:52.600 and sandy soil. You could see some blowouts. 0:08:52.240 --> 0:08:56.120 Some ATV tracks too. It was a popular ATV destination. 0:08:56.320 --> 0:09:01.040 Craig Caltam found the land and Craig is a golf 0:09:01.200 --> 0:09:04.280 architect in his own right, really up and coming golf 0:09:04.400 --> 0:09:07.960 architect in his own right, and then he got involved 0:09:07.960 --> 0:09:11.880 with the Kaisers and this thing came to came to life, right. 0:09:12.000 --> 0:09:15.760 Yeah, he found the land and they've moved really quickly 0:09:16.120 --> 0:09:19.880 in developing the resort and they're even building I'm not 0:09:19.920 --> 0:09:21.720 sure how much we can talk about this, but they're 0:09:21.720 --> 0:09:24.400 building a family course out there too, or what Michael 0:09:24.480 --> 0:09:27.000 Kaiser refers to. It's. Yeah, as the commons, it'll be 0:09:27.840 --> 0:09:30.680 a not quite a par three course, but also not 0:09:30.800 --> 0:09:33.839 quite a regulation course, and it'll be a little more 0:09:33.840 --> 0:09:36.160 subtle and not a lot of bunkers, is how I 0:09:36.280 --> 0:09:38.760 understand it, And so that should be pretty interesting to 0:09:38.800 --> 0:09:39.360 see as well. 0:09:39.679 --> 0:09:43.240 Yeah, yeah, it's it's it's fascinating too because obviously, like 0:09:43.280 --> 0:09:46.160 I think the Sandbox in my opinion, and I think 0:09:46.160 --> 0:09:48.680 you share this opinion from what you've written about it 0:09:48.720 --> 0:09:51.360 in our in club TF and you're right up there, 0:09:51.760 --> 0:09:55.360 but I think this is that the Sandbox is probably 0:09:55.360 --> 0:09:57.520 the greatest part three course that I've ever played. 0:09:58.559 --> 0:10:01.560 I agree with that. I don't think you played bandon Preserve. Yeah, 0:10:01.600 --> 0:10:03.200 we were there for a few days and we didn't 0:10:03.200 --> 0:10:04.600 play it, which was a bit of a miss. But 0:10:05.200 --> 0:10:07.360 if you have there, if you had been there with us, 0:10:07.400 --> 0:10:10.520 you would have understood why we missed Band and Preserved. 0:10:10.600 --> 0:10:13.000 We had things to do. But I have played Band 0:10:13.080 --> 0:10:14.960 and Preserve, and a lot of people would refer to 0:10:15.000 --> 0:10:18.080 that as the best Part three course that they've ever played, 0:10:18.080 --> 0:10:21.320 and it's certainly more spectacular. It sits on a piece 0:10:21.320 --> 0:10:24.720 of land that a normal course could not have occupied, 0:10:24.760 --> 0:10:28.880 and it's really beautiful and striking. But in terms of design, 0:10:29.640 --> 0:10:35.079 the Sandbox is I think on another level, and it is, yeah, 0:10:35.200 --> 0:10:37.040 the best Part three course I've played for sure. 0:10:37.559 --> 0:10:42.600 Yeah, so let's get into it. We will do a selection. 0:10:43.160 --> 0:10:45.560 Garre and I each have different lists. There probably is 0:10:45.600 --> 0:10:46.480 a lot of overlap. 0:10:46.520 --> 0:10:48.920 There's probably a good amount of overlap. We sat here 0:10:48.920 --> 0:10:51.600 in the shed and we came up with them sort 0:10:51.600 --> 0:10:53.280 of on the spot, So I'm not going to make 0:10:53.320 --> 0:10:58.240 any great claims that this is like perfectly refined here. 0:10:58.559 --> 0:11:00.960 And we also talked about a couple of holes, and 0:11:01.000 --> 0:11:04.200 so we may have been influencing each other. So we'll 0:11:04.240 --> 0:11:06.360 be thinking it through as we go along, for sure. 0:11:06.440 --> 0:11:10.000 I always tell people with these types of exercises, it's 0:11:10.040 --> 0:11:12.920 similar to like, what's your favorite golf course? But with 0:11:13.040 --> 0:11:16.480 dream eighteens, I could do one of these tomorrow and 0:11:16.559 --> 0:11:20.080 the results would be different, right, Like you're you're just like, oh, 0:11:20.360 --> 0:11:22.880 kind of. It depends on your mood and different things. 0:11:23.160 --> 0:11:27.000 I recently, for the upcoming Dream Golf magazine that they 0:11:27.040 --> 0:11:29.840 send out, I did a Dream eighteen for all resorts, 0:11:30.360 --> 0:11:31.600 so it was kind. 0:11:31.440 --> 0:11:34.240 Of expert Oh yeah, this is just what you do. 0:11:34.360 --> 0:11:37.119 Yeah, that's all I do. All I do is Dream eighteens. 0:11:37.960 --> 0:11:41.080 But but so, yeah, this was fun. I really enjoyed this. 0:11:41.120 --> 0:11:42.280 Who what's your whole one? 0:11:43.200 --> 0:11:47.440 I went with sand Valley, but I don't feel super 0:11:47.480 --> 0:11:50.160 strongly about it. I feel like I could have picked 0:11:50.679 --> 0:11:53.280 one at Sandbox, which is kind of a fun hole 0:11:53.280 --> 0:11:56.440 in one op crazy yeah, and we One of my 0:11:56.480 --> 0:12:00.320 great memories from our visits there this past summer was 0:12:00.920 --> 0:12:04.360 standing there with Matt Ruschius and Cameron Hurtis, who worked 0:12:04.360 --> 0:12:09.880 for a Friday Golf, and Matt started just throwing golf 0:12:09.920 --> 0:12:14.480 balls from the tee at this first hole and using 0:12:14.520 --> 0:12:16.800 the contours to kind of feed them in. Now, he 0:12:16.800 --> 0:12:18.960 he has more arm speed than I do. Matt. Matt 0:12:19.000 --> 0:12:19.679 is a young buck. 0:12:20.480 --> 0:12:24.520 He can he can up more elasticity, a little more elasticity. 0:12:24.640 --> 0:12:26.480 He's into yoga too, so you know. 0:12:26.640 --> 0:12:29.920 He's Yeah, he's an athletic young man. And he was 0:12:29.960 --> 0:12:32.520 able to get that golf ball kind of sailing down there. 0:12:32.520 --> 0:12:34.880 But it was really cool to watch the ball sort 0:12:34.920 --> 0:12:37.640 of feed in. And the different ways that you could 0:12:37.679 --> 0:12:38.520 approach this hole. 0:12:39.040 --> 0:12:41.960 Well, with that front pin on the sandbox, you can 0:12:42.120 --> 0:12:45.080 use the right side and put it. You can put 0:12:45.120 --> 0:12:46.400 it and funnel it in there. 0:12:46.520 --> 0:12:48.640 You could use the left side even maybe not with 0:12:48.679 --> 0:12:50.760 a putter, but there's. 0:12:50.559 --> 0:12:53.080 Lots of you putt it around the like little burm 0:12:53.360 --> 0:12:56.360 on the right, and the putt will funnel right into 0:12:56.400 --> 0:12:56.760 the hole. 0:12:57.360 --> 0:12:59.160 And here we are talking about a hole that's not 0:12:59.280 --> 0:13:01.760 even on my dream eighteen. But I may have just 0:13:01.840 --> 0:13:05.600 talked myself into it. Sand Valley, the first hole is 0:13:05.640 --> 0:13:08.800 really cool. You've got a big hazard, you know, sandy 0:13:08.840 --> 0:13:11.560 waste area up the left, and you've got a kind 0:13:11.600 --> 0:13:14.640 of platform green with a couple of sections to it, 0:13:15.080 --> 0:13:18.480 and it's a very friendly opening hole. It's fairly short, 0:13:18.720 --> 0:13:22.640 but there is a line of charm along the hazard, 0:13:22.800 --> 0:13:25.360 and if you decide to bite off a little bit 0:13:25.440 --> 0:13:27.760 more of that than you should, then you can get 0:13:27.760 --> 0:13:29.400 in trouble on this first hole. 0:13:29.640 --> 0:13:33.000 I think it's just a great opening tee shot in 0:13:33.080 --> 0:13:36.720 the sense of nobody's ever really comfortable on the first tee. 0:13:37.040 --> 0:13:39.319 I think I feel like, more so than a lot 0:13:39.320 --> 0:13:41.800 of places at this at this golf course, you might 0:13:41.880 --> 0:13:44.640 go to the first tea without hitting golf balls. I 0:13:44.679 --> 0:13:47.120 don't know. The range is kind of hard far away. 0:13:47.280 --> 0:13:48.840 Well, the range is right there now. 0:13:48.760 --> 0:13:51.559 Well they have sometimes that range is open. I don't 0:13:51.600 --> 0:13:53.040 know the exactly that's true. 0:13:53.040 --> 0:13:54.720 I haven't seen many people hitting balls out. 0:13:54.640 --> 0:13:56.560 There, so they have they I don't know if the 0:13:56.600 --> 0:14:00.280 warm up range still exists there. You know it it 0:14:00.400 --> 0:14:04.000 was there, and you know, forgive me, I haven't been 0:14:04.320 --> 0:14:06.079 I haven't played Sand Valley in a couple of years. 0:14:07.000 --> 0:14:10.360 But anyways, what I love about that tea shot is 0:14:10.400 --> 0:14:13.400 that it really tests you right off the bat, right 0:14:13.480 --> 0:14:17.960 You have to be very comfortable and and really make 0:14:18.000 --> 0:14:20.800 a great swing to hit a great tea shot there, 0:14:20.920 --> 0:14:24.000 and it's right off the bat it then if you 0:14:24.080 --> 0:14:27.360 hit a great tea shot presents like a great birdie opportunity. 0:14:29.360 --> 0:14:31.680 If you get into the wrong spot, you could be 0:14:31.760 --> 0:14:34.720 struggling on a short par four to make par right. 0:14:34.960 --> 0:14:36.960 And like I think, one of the things I do 0:14:37.040 --> 0:14:40.240 really love about Sand Valley is the it's just the 0:14:40.280 --> 0:14:42.960 sand itself. The bunker sand is the native sand there. 0:14:43.640 --> 0:14:47.480 It is not the court that like very bright white 0:14:47.520 --> 0:14:51.080 pro angle sand that the ball just like pops out 0:14:51.080 --> 0:14:54.520 of right. You have to hit good bunker shots to 0:14:54.680 --> 0:14:57.840 succeed at Sand Valley. You have to figure out how 0:14:57.880 --> 0:14:59.920 to play a how to play out of the sand 0:15:00.080 --> 0:15:03.360 because it's heavier. One thing that I kind of on 0:15:03.360 --> 0:15:07.240 my last visit figured out was having more bounce on 0:15:07.280 --> 0:15:09.960 my wedge. Going from you know, my sixty degree is 0:15:10.000 --> 0:15:12.240 a very low bounce sixty degree that I usually use 0:15:12.280 --> 0:15:14.200 out of the sand. I went to fifty six with 0:15:14.240 --> 0:15:18.800 more bounce, and that really helped me in the bunkers because. 0:15:18.560 --> 0:15:20.960 The sand is kind of soft, yeah, so often having 0:15:20.960 --> 0:15:23.840 a sharp leading edge might dig in it exactly. I mean, 0:15:23.880 --> 0:15:24.480 that's a good point. 0:15:24.560 --> 0:15:26.560 So I switched to that and it really helped me. 0:15:26.600 --> 0:15:28.960 But this is the thing, when you get into these 0:15:29.240 --> 0:15:33.520 into these waste bunkers or just natural bunkers, that sand 0:15:34.000 --> 0:15:37.160 is an adjustment and it's it makes it difficult, and 0:15:37.200 --> 0:15:38.760 all of a sudden you could make a bogie on 0:15:38.800 --> 0:15:40.600 a short part four that you feel like you should 0:15:40.640 --> 0:15:42.800 make a birdie. I love it. It sets the tone 0:15:43.560 --> 0:15:47.720 also with all these golf courses for anybody, you know, 0:15:47.880 --> 0:15:50.680 I think anybody. One of the things you have to 0:15:50.720 --> 0:15:54.760 get used to really early is the pace at which 0:15:54.840 --> 0:15:59.360 these golf courses play. They are firm and fast and 0:15:59.800 --> 0:16:03.360 noting nothing is dicier than hitting like half ledges into 0:16:03.400 --> 0:16:06.160 an elevated green. To get to get used to that 0:16:06.240 --> 0:16:08.880 it is, I don't I think it's like a warm 0:16:08.880 --> 0:16:10.640 handshake in the sense you can make a birdie. But 0:16:10.720 --> 0:16:12.560 I don't think it's a warm handshake. It does not 0:16:12.680 --> 0:16:14.800 make you feel comfortable when you walk off the first 0:16:14.840 --> 0:16:15.720 hole at Sand Valley. 0:16:15.800 --> 0:16:18.520 Yeah, there's definitely some peril on the hole, so yeah, 0:16:18.560 --> 0:16:20.520 it's it does its job as an opening hole. And 0:16:20.600 --> 0:16:23.160 if you get in trouble on that hole, then you 0:16:23.200 --> 0:16:25.680 have two coming up, which is gonna punch you in 0:16:25.720 --> 0:16:27.960 the mouth pretty much. No matter what. That's a tough 0:16:27.960 --> 0:16:28.680 hole at Sand Valley. 0:16:28.720 --> 0:16:29.560 What's your second hole? 0:16:29.720 --> 0:16:31.320 You kind of gotta you kind of gotta make your 0:16:31.320 --> 0:16:34.200 hay on the first hole. So my second hole is 0:16:34.240 --> 0:16:37.880 at Sedge Valley, So this hole is so clever. The 0:16:37.880 --> 0:16:41.080 first two holes at Sedge occupy kind of a different 0:16:41.400 --> 0:16:44.840 portion of the property than the rest of the course occupies. 0:16:44.920 --> 0:16:45.080 Right. 0:16:45.080 --> 0:16:48.520 The course really gets going on the third hole, where 0:16:48.560 --> 0:16:51.640 you're getting into the main part of the site that 0:16:51.760 --> 0:16:54.760 most of the course is in. And so the first 0:16:54.760 --> 0:16:56.840 couple of holes might kind of seem like a warm up. 0:16:56.960 --> 0:16:59.600 You know, you could play them as a loop because 0:16:59.640 --> 0:17:02.200 they just kind of go out and back, and the 0:17:02.320 --> 0:17:05.240 land that they're on is like not the best land 0:17:05.480 --> 0:17:07.440 at SAJ. I would say, I'm not sure how much 0:17:07.880 --> 0:17:12.120 Doakes Team shaped it, but you know, there's some topographical 0:17:12.119 --> 0:17:14.840 interest out there. It's just not quite as magical as 0:17:14.880 --> 0:17:15.880 the rest of the property. 0:17:16.359 --> 0:17:18.480 You know when you move from two to three that 0:17:18.560 --> 0:17:20.520 you've entered a new space exactly. 0:17:20.720 --> 0:17:23.600 Yeah, you're very aware that this is sort of the 0:17:24.440 --> 0:17:26.960 dramatic beginning of the golf course, and the first two 0:17:26.960 --> 0:17:29.400 holes were sort of a you know, like an overture 0:17:29.400 --> 0:17:31.600 at the beginning of a symphony. I'm not even sure 0:17:31.600 --> 0:17:33.399 if that's the right term. So my apologies to the 0:17:33.440 --> 0:17:36.640 music nerds out there. In any case, two is such 0:17:36.680 --> 0:17:39.720 a clever hole, Like it's so well designed and the 0:17:39.800 --> 0:17:43.119 green is so cool. So you know, the thing that 0:17:43.280 --> 0:17:46.160 I really like about this hole is that the fairway 0:17:46.280 --> 0:17:50.520 is super wide. But a really good shot, a really 0:17:50.520 --> 0:17:52.639 good t shot is pretty specific. 0:17:53.119 --> 0:17:55.480 Yeah, and it varies based off of how far you 0:17:55.560 --> 0:17:59.400 hit it, because absolutely, because the feature of the fairway 0:17:59.520 --> 0:18:01.480 runs on a diagonal. 0:18:01.119 --> 0:18:03.280 And that feature is a hogsback sort of. 0:18:03.960 --> 0:18:07.200 And the direct a mound in the middle that cuts 0:18:07.440 --> 0:18:09.919 on a diagonal and deflex balls right or left. 0:18:10.000 --> 0:18:12.760 Yeah, like a like a ridge, and it can deflect 0:18:12.800 --> 0:18:17.000 balls left, but it deflects them most sharply to the right, 0:18:17.800 --> 0:18:21.080 and the b line to the hole. The shortest route 0:18:21.119 --> 0:18:24.720 to the green is along the right side of the fairway, 0:18:24.840 --> 0:18:28.240 sort of right along the edge of the ridge in 0:18:28.280 --> 0:18:30.919 the fairway. And so if you get aggressive, if you 0:18:30.960 --> 0:18:33.560 say I'm going to hit this ball toward the green 0:18:33.600 --> 0:18:36.600 to try to get the shortest approach possible, then you 0:18:36.640 --> 0:18:39.720 could end up way down to the right. You're still 0:18:39.760 --> 0:18:42.320 going to be more or less in the fairway, maybe 0:18:42.359 --> 0:18:45.040 sort of on the edge of some rough grass and 0:18:45.080 --> 0:18:47.520 a little bit of scrub down there, but you're gonna 0:18:47.560 --> 0:18:50.840 be totally blind. You're gonna have no reference points for 0:18:50.960 --> 0:18:53.600 where you're supposed to hit this approach, and the green 0:18:53.680 --> 0:18:56.399 is tricky like there are some runoffs, and there are 0:18:56.440 --> 0:18:59.880 some little areas that you can get in trouble in there. 0:19:00.000 --> 0:19:03.439 There's a really wonderful kind of hidden bunker right in 0:19:03.480 --> 0:19:06.840 the back of the green. The shaping is just beautifully executed, 0:19:06.880 --> 0:19:10.440 which you sort of expect from renaissance golf design anytime 0:19:10.760 --> 0:19:13.240 they do a course, And so I think this hole 0:19:13.280 --> 0:19:15.920 is really clever and makes great use of a piece 0:19:15.960 --> 0:19:19.000 of the property that might not otherwise be that compelling. 0:19:19.600 --> 0:19:21.320 Yeah, I love that hole. It would probably be my 0:19:21.440 --> 0:19:24.320 runner up for the second hole. My picks sand Valley. 0:19:24.359 --> 0:19:28.600 I'm sticking with Sand Valley. That second hole is so disorienting. 0:19:29.240 --> 0:19:31.359 I think that's probably what I love most about it. 0:19:31.680 --> 0:19:35.040 You're hitting, you know, a driver, Some longer hitters are 0:19:35.080 --> 0:19:37.000 going to hit less than a driver to a spot, 0:19:37.280 --> 0:19:39.359 and then you're going to have If you play up 0:19:39.359 --> 0:19:41.040 to the left, you'll have a look at the green, 0:19:41.160 --> 0:19:43.200 but you have a longer approach. If you play down 0:19:43.280 --> 0:19:44.919 to the right, you have a shorter approach and a 0:19:44.960 --> 0:19:50.679 blind shot to probably the least forgiving green on maybe 0:19:50.840 --> 0:19:54.119 outside a liedo on the property where you have sharp 0:19:54.160 --> 0:19:58.879 runoffs around it, and it's a big part four. You 0:19:59.440 --> 0:20:03.160 really have to hit two great shots there. And I 0:20:03.200 --> 0:20:06.520 just I love that the way it kind of moves 0:20:06.560 --> 0:20:08.440 along the land. It kind of plays down into a 0:20:08.520 --> 0:20:11.159 ridge and back up to a ridge. It snakes around it, 0:20:11.920 --> 0:20:14.240 and it's just a really great hole. So let's move 0:20:14.280 --> 0:20:14.879 on to three. 0:20:15.160 --> 0:20:16.240 What's your whole three? 0:20:16.840 --> 0:20:18.920 I'm gonna go with the sandbox. 0:20:18.520 --> 0:20:22.040 Of course. What's your whole three? And why is it 0:20:22.119 --> 0:20:25.399 the sandbox? That is really the question there? This is 0:20:25.440 --> 0:20:28.080 a this is they call it a double plateau, but 0:20:28.160 --> 0:20:30.119 it's it's really a maiden. There's no reason to be 0:20:30.520 --> 0:20:34.280 pedantic about that. But it's like two big platforms. 0:20:34.280 --> 0:20:39.600 It's a striking green. Such a striking green. It's so fun. 0:20:39.600 --> 0:20:41.760 It's I think it's about seventy yards. You can hit 0:20:42.119 --> 0:20:44.520 so many varieties of shots. You can try and run 0:20:44.560 --> 0:20:47.240 it up. It's a terrifying when the when the green, 0:20:47.600 --> 0:20:50.000 When the pins on one of the two ridges on 0:20:50.119 --> 0:20:53.440 a two high plateaus, back right or back left, it's 0:20:53.440 --> 0:20:57.320 a terrifying shot. It's extremely hard to hit it up there. Again, 0:20:58.520 --> 0:21:02.000 you're hitting like a you know, like a soft wedge 0:21:02.640 --> 0:21:05.280 into a really firm and fast green, and that's like 0:21:05.359 --> 0:21:08.000 one of the it's just you you have to make decisions. 0:21:08.080 --> 0:21:09.800 You want to kind of bounce it up into there? 0:21:10.080 --> 0:21:12.000