1 00:00:00,840 --> 00:00:05,640 Speaker 1: And now move the sticks with Daniel, Jeremiah and Bucky 2 00:00:05,760 --> 00:00:10,719 Speaker 1: Brooks in for DJ today, Red Louis p Bu, Bucky Brooks, 3 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:14,040 Speaker 1: Rocket and rolling in the studio DJ. You know there's 4 00:00:14,040 --> 00:00:16,439 Speaker 1: a lot of in for there's a lot of Yeah, 5 00:00:16,680 --> 00:00:19,200 Speaker 1: there's a lot of substitutions. We have to start scrubbing 6 00:00:19,239 --> 00:00:22,880 Speaker 1: his name off this thing, a lot of subbing, subbing. 7 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:25,560 Speaker 1: He's kind of like the sponsor Mr. Big Time. You know, 8 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:28,639 Speaker 1: it's like the Godfather. You know, He's like, I'll let 9 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:32,960 Speaker 1: you guys take of everything. Just come here for the 10 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:35,080 Speaker 1: big moment. Yeah, I get it all set up. You know, 11 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:37,280 Speaker 1: I mentioned I think the last time I was in 12 00:00:37,320 --> 00:00:39,000 Speaker 1: I don't remember what it was last week, and you 13 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:42,040 Speaker 1: know the national shortage of Chick fil A based on 14 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:44,800 Speaker 1: DJ being on the road this long. But I was 15 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:48,320 Speaker 1: wrong apparently, how that he has been in North Carolina 16 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:53,840 Speaker 1: was very into the Cracker Barrel circuit. Yeah yeah, crack 17 00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 1: Cracker Barrel twittered at us. We could use that, uh 18 00:00:57,480 --> 00:01:01,880 Speaker 1: sponsorship little deal I'm sure of, like life lifetime gift 19 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:05,080 Speaker 1: cards or something like that. I could Lifetime gift card. 20 00:01:05,120 --> 00:01:07,080 Speaker 1: I need to get into that. Let's go, let's go 21 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:08,360 Speaker 1: on the way big. If we're gonna do an ass, 22 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:12,640 Speaker 1: do a big as, let's shoot for the stars here. Okay. 23 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:16,000 Speaker 1: So yeah, DJ's traveling back from visiting North Carolina Duke, 24 00:01:16,360 --> 00:01:19,400 Speaker 1: uh and in c or just Duke and NC State, right, 25 00:01:19,520 --> 00:01:22,200 Speaker 1: and then unfortunately decided how to go back. Didn't go 26 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:28,320 Speaker 1: see Chapel Hill. Yeah, basketball school, that's for shirts in it. Yeah. 27 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:34,199 Speaker 1: So let's talk Duke Pro Day first, because Daniel Jones 28 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:37,160 Speaker 1: had a a really good workout. Um. I thought it 29 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:39,760 Speaker 1: was right up there with the best we've seen throwing 30 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:42,760 Speaker 1: session wise. Uh. Not a lot of balls hit the 31 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:44,760 Speaker 1: ground obviously. Was actually I feel like one of the 32 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:47,040 Speaker 1: only pro days that we weren't a part of buck Um. 33 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:52,040 Speaker 1: We had too many other obligations. Yeah, but but look, man, 34 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:54,360 Speaker 1: he I think he showed off. You know, they wanted 35 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 1: an aggressive script. I think we saw that. You got 36 00:01:56,760 --> 00:01:58,640 Speaker 1: to see a little bit of his movement and his 37 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 1: accuracy and then you know, maybe putting some of the 38 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:04,720 Speaker 1: arm string questions to rest a little bit with how 39 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:06,280 Speaker 1: he drove the ball. Yeah, I thought he had a 40 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 1: solid workout. I think the bigger thing is beyond the workout. Um, 41 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:14,080 Speaker 1: with these workouts, I think it's very important that whoever 42 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 1: scripting it is doing it trying to create a vision 43 00:02:17,880 --> 00:02:20,520 Speaker 1: for the people that are watching, trying to create something 44 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:22,280 Speaker 1: for like, oh, this is how he could be used. 45 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:24,880 Speaker 1: And I think with Daniel Jones, David Cutcliffe and the 46 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:28,400 Speaker 1: staff at Duke did a really good job of creating 47 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:32,520 Speaker 1: that vision of Okay, this is how we could play 48 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 1: with him. We saw some movement stuff, We saw a 49 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:37,240 Speaker 1: lot of play action stuff. We saw him kind of 50 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:39,880 Speaker 1: finesse the ball and kind of layer it in. And 51 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:43,079 Speaker 1: even though their questions about maybe his arm strength and 52 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:45,120 Speaker 1: can he drive it, I think he did a good 53 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:48,240 Speaker 1: job of staying true to who he is and being 54 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:50,239 Speaker 1: very very confident, like, this is how we're gonna play 55 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:52,840 Speaker 1: the game. So if I come to your team, if 56 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:55,800 Speaker 1: we you play me like this, I can be a 57 00:02:55,840 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 1: star player. And I think there's nothing wrong with that. 58 00:02:58,160 --> 00:03:01,639 Speaker 1: And so um, I think he is a guy that man, 59 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:04,760 Speaker 1: you get the right team around him, you do some 60 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:07,359 Speaker 1: things that kind of fit in his wheelhouse. I think 61 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:10,079 Speaker 1: he can be a very successful, Yeah, starting quarterback. I 62 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 1: don't think there's nothing wrong with it. And if you 63 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:14,480 Speaker 1: were watching our coverage of the Duke Pro Day on 64 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:18,120 Speaker 1: NFL Network, you saw blue shirt. I believe Gray had. 65 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:21,040 Speaker 1: It was his quarterback coach as well, David Morris. Keep 66 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 1: the country you've heard, Uh. I think I talked to 67 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:25,400 Speaker 1: him here on an interview that we've played here on 68 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:27,960 Speaker 1: Move the Sticks Down at the Senior Bowl. Uh. He's 69 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:31,160 Speaker 1: known Daniel for a long time. Was you know, played 70 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:34,000 Speaker 1: a part in in actually getting him to Duke and 71 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:37,360 Speaker 1: and his whole kind of background and story there and um, 72 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:40,960 Speaker 1: you know, he said he wanted the aggressive script. He 73 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:43,280 Speaker 1: wanted to show Daniel in command, which I thought was 74 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:45,680 Speaker 1: kind of interesting, you know, to also kind of play 75 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 1: down one of the storylines that's out there that he's 76 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:50,040 Speaker 1: kind of a subdued guy maybe not you know, the 77 00:03:50,120 --> 00:03:51,960 Speaker 1: leader you would want from a quarterback. I think I 78 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:53,839 Speaker 1: think we can put all that stuff to rest here. 79 00:03:53,880 --> 00:03:56,400 Speaker 1: If you watched, you saw him in command. He was 80 00:03:56,440 --> 00:03:59,680 Speaker 1: directing traffic. Um, you know, he was out there, you know, 81 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 1: making sure everybody knew what they what they you know, 82 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:04,280 Speaker 1: had to do and wanted to do. And and so 83 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:06,360 Speaker 1: like I thought it was. I thought it was a 84 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:09,720 Speaker 1: successful pro day for Daniel Jones. Down the road at 85 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 1: NC State we had just yesterday. Uh DJ was there 86 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:16,080 Speaker 1: a guy who's gonna be our recurring guest on Path 87 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:19,160 Speaker 1: to the Draft every Monday, six pm Eastern, right here 88 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:23,159 Speaker 1: on NFL Network, you will hear from Ryan Finley Bucket, 89 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:26,479 Speaker 1: your number five quarterback. A really interesting guy. Started his 90 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:30,680 Speaker 1: career Boise State, transferred UH and UH, and then ended 91 00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:33,480 Speaker 1: up being a really successful and productive guy at NC State. 92 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:37,440 Speaker 1: You have very productive player. UM. I think the thing 93 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 1: about Ryan Finley that is very um, that's very apparent, 94 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:44,839 Speaker 1: very experienced, has a high football like you really understand 95 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:46,599 Speaker 1: the game. And part of that to do is to 96 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:48,760 Speaker 1: his experience. He has a ton of experience playing a 97 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:51,279 Speaker 1: game at two different universities, had a lot of success 98 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:53,640 Speaker 1: in NC State, even though he was surrounded by people. 99 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:55,080 Speaker 1: I think he kind of figured out how to play 100 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:58,400 Speaker 1: the game. And um, a lot of people were here. 101 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:01,320 Speaker 1: Game manager and to view it as a bad word, 102 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:04,839 Speaker 1: I think Ryan Finley is a terrific game manager and 103 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:07,240 Speaker 1: I think he is going to be successful because he 104 00:05:07,320 --> 00:05:10,279 Speaker 1: understands how to manage the game. And in managing the game, 105 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:14,800 Speaker 1: it is understanding when to make the right risk. When 106 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 1: I call it risk assessment. Okay, here's where we are 107 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:20,800 Speaker 1: in the game. This is time and score. We're up 108 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:23,760 Speaker 1: I probably don't need to be aggressive with these throws. 109 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 1: I can dump it down and let my playmakers work. 110 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:28,280 Speaker 1: Oh we're down, I need to be a little more aggressive. 111 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 1: I feel like with him, Ryan Finley understands how to 112 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 1: play that game, and I think for so many quarterbacks 113 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 1: they only can play one way. I think he can 114 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:38,000 Speaker 1: ramp it up when he needs to in terms of 115 00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:40,719 Speaker 1: his aggressiveness, but I think he understands how to play 116 00:05:40,760 --> 00:05:43,560 Speaker 1: winning football. And for me, I would rather have a 117 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:47,880 Speaker 1: quarterback that understands how to play it, how to play 118 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:50,720 Speaker 1: complimentary ball on offense to compliment with the defense is 119 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:53,480 Speaker 1: doing and the like. And I think he is solid 120 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 1: with that. And so he may not be a first 121 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 1: round pick, but I can see somewhere in the second 122 00:05:57,839 --> 00:06:00,400 Speaker 1: round a team that is looking for a down to 123 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:03,200 Speaker 1: line starter would be very, very intrigued about what he brings. Yeah, 124 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:06,840 Speaker 1: no question and look the battery mates, Uh if you will. 125 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:09,000 Speaker 1: And and and he stayed pretty darn good Ryan Finley, and 126 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:12,039 Speaker 1: then his center, Garrett Bradberry, I mean, barn best center 127 00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:16,560 Speaker 1: in the class, right, easy, easy, easy evaluation is he 128 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:18,360 Speaker 1: is he along the lines of some of the top 129 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:22,039 Speaker 1: centers we've seen in previous classes, Billy Price, Pat elf Line, 130 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 1: Uh boy, you know you go back. Cody white Hair 131 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:26,360 Speaker 1: was up there a couple of years. I think, well, 132 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:28,040 Speaker 1: I think he's better than the first two guys that 133 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:30,440 Speaker 1: you mean in like f Line and Billy Price. I 134 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:33,080 Speaker 1: think he's a better player than those guys. I think 135 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:34,680 Speaker 1: he kind of falls into Cody white Hare to me, 136 00:06:34,800 --> 00:06:36,320 Speaker 1: was like a really good player. I thought could right 137 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:38,280 Speaker 1: here was awesome man. Yeah, at Case State. I think 138 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:41,440 Speaker 1: he's in that that realm in that conversation. He's been 139 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:43,520 Speaker 1: a good player for in Chicago to Yeah. The the 140 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:46,160 Speaker 1: thing about Bradberry what was so impressive when you watched 141 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:48,560 Speaker 1: him at a Senior Bowl. The leadership ability stood out, 142 00:06:48,839 --> 00:06:53,360 Speaker 1: His ability to kind of dominate high level opponents stood out, 143 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:55,800 Speaker 1: the fact that he has made a concerted effort like 144 00:06:56,800 --> 00:07:00,080 Speaker 1: to last two years where he started really trying to 145 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:02,560 Speaker 1: focus on practicing like a pro, and I think it 146 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 1: shows up in his play. To me, he's a guy 147 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:06,880 Speaker 1: from day one. He's going to be able to understand 148 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 1: all the responsibility that come along. We're playing the center position. 149 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:12,400 Speaker 1: He's gonna be able to take command of not only 150 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:14,840 Speaker 1: the hold up up day unit and get those guys 151 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:19,120 Speaker 1: going and so for a communication position. Um, I think 152 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:21,360 Speaker 1: he's an ideal traffic oup one. They can get anyone 153 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:23,120 Speaker 1: lined up and going in the right direction. That's a 154 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 1: solid looking guy too. I mean that's not a I 155 00:07:25,720 --> 00:07:30,920 Speaker 1: mean no, he's not a slot. Looks basically gifted dude 156 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 1: as the center. Yeah, it looks like a new school center. 157 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:36,560 Speaker 1: He's very in shape. Um, he has strength. He's not 158 00:07:36,600 --> 00:07:39,360 Speaker 1: one of those guys that's kind of making up for 159 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:42,760 Speaker 1: a lack of physical talent because he's super smart and 160 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:45,560 Speaker 1: he understands how to play positional ball. Now he's a 161 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:47,760 Speaker 1: legitimate block at the point of attack. He can move 162 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 1: people off the ball. But he still has the high 163 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:52,360 Speaker 1: i Q and has the communication skills that you look for. 164 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:56,920 Speaker 1: He looks like Mark Stepnoski if Stepnoski was three pounds right, 165 00:07:57,120 --> 00:07:58,600 Speaker 1: I mean he was like to sixty I feel like, 166 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 1: but like, but rad Berry is a lean, mean uh 167 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 1: center prospect here and it's gonna be fun to watch 168 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:10,080 Speaker 1: him compete on Sunday's Okay, uh, getting back to Daniel Jones, 169 00:08:11,080 --> 00:08:14,440 Speaker 1: we got the mt S three sixty series back. Dwayne 170 00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:16,880 Speaker 1: Haskins is already out. You can check that out. But 171 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:20,720 Speaker 1: Daniel Jones will premier on the three sixty series Tuesday, 172 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:23,080 Speaker 1: April nine, so that is on the way. Be sure 173 00:08:23,120 --> 00:08:24,520 Speaker 1: to check that out and find out more about his 174 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 1: path to getting to Duke from Charlotte Latin UH and 175 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:29,680 Speaker 1: all the guys and all the people who helped make 176 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:33,599 Speaker 1: his path to the draft possible. So looking forward to 177 00:08:33,679 --> 00:08:36,840 Speaker 1: that one coming out here shortly. Also have some interviews 178 00:08:36,840 --> 00:08:39,640 Speaker 1: as DJ was on the ground UH for NC States 179 00:08:39,640 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 1: Pro day there with quarterback Ryan Finley and the center 180 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:46,680 Speaker 1: Garrett brad Berry. Let's get you those all right, Ryan, 181 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:48,880 Speaker 1: finish up your pro day here at NC State. How 182 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:50,600 Speaker 1: do you feel a win? I thought it went really well. 183 00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:52,719 Speaker 1: It's still going here. I got some guys working out, 184 00:08:52,760 --> 00:08:54,280 Speaker 1: but it's gone really well so far. All Right, what 185 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:56,600 Speaker 1: were you trying to, UH with the message you're looking 186 00:08:56,600 --> 00:08:58,920 Speaker 1: to get out today with your performance? I think we 187 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:02,120 Speaker 1: just wanted to have a Chris Chris run through and 188 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:04,400 Speaker 1: just complete a lot of balls and kind of me 189 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:06,400 Speaker 1: personally show it. I could could zip it a little 190 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:08,160 Speaker 1: bit and throw it in there. So one of the 191 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:10,079 Speaker 1: things when I when I study on tape that jumps 192 00:09:10,120 --> 00:09:13,600 Speaker 1: out is the anticipation that you possess Um, you get 193 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:16,040 Speaker 1: an environment like this with your guys, it just looks 194 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:17,679 Speaker 1: like you were very comfortable getting the ball out, your 195 00:09:17,679 --> 00:09:19,959 Speaker 1: hand up nice and early. Yeah, I mean me step 196 00:09:20,040 --> 00:09:21,400 Speaker 1: to Cob and Covin. We've been doing this for a 197 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:24,160 Speaker 1: long time, so it was fun to have us four 198 00:09:24,360 --> 00:09:27,280 Speaker 1: back together for probably one of the last times. I'm 199 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:29,800 Speaker 1: sure in the offseason we'll get back together. But it 200 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 1: was fun to just kind of one more time, you know, 201 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:33,120 Speaker 1: kind of in a game like Atmosphere, I go out 202 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:35,120 Speaker 1: there and throw it around. So how was fun? All Right? 203 00:09:35,160 --> 00:09:36,360 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna ask you what team you want to 204 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:39,120 Speaker 1: go to, because nobody ever answers that question, But how 205 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:41,560 Speaker 1: about some players you're looking forward either to playing with 206 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:43,880 Speaker 1: or we're playing against. You give me any position, just 207 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:46,640 Speaker 1: somebody you thought about growing up saying I'm gonna be 208 00:09:46,679 --> 00:09:48,560 Speaker 1: on an NFL field with this player. You gotta you 209 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:51,040 Speaker 1: have to give me a name. You know, I'm not. 210 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:53,000 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna give you a name. Here. Here's here's 211 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:56,080 Speaker 1: what I will give you. I think at this point, Um, 212 00:09:56,240 --> 00:09:58,400 Speaker 1: you know, with me having three years at Boisy Stay 213 00:09:58,480 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 1: and then three years of n See Stay, I know 214 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:02,280 Speaker 1: so many guys in the league and I think it's 215 00:10:02,280 --> 00:10:04,080 Speaker 1: fun to think about, like the odds that I'll end 216 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:05,320 Speaker 1: up with one of those guys, you know, I mean, 217 00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:06,760 Speaker 1: one of the guys that's been here in the last 218 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:08,559 Speaker 1: four years, one of the last you know, one of 219 00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 1: the guys that was at Boise State, or you know, 220 00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:13,520 Speaker 1: just somewhere along that lineage where there's so many teams 221 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:15,719 Speaker 1: where I feel like I'll be able to reconnect with 222 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:17,880 Speaker 1: a guy. So I think that's what I'm looking forward to. 223 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:20,360 Speaker 1: That was a very clever way of getting around that. 224 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:22,760 Speaker 1: By the way, half of Boise States rosters now Dallas 225 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:26,040 Speaker 1: Cowboy So I'm just gonna assume that you just said 226 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:28,280 Speaker 1: you're looking forward either playing with her against the Dallas Cowboys. 227 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:30,319 Speaker 1: That's what I'm gonna go with for sure. Dallas Cowboys. 228 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:32,160 Speaker 1: Do you have a lot of Boysey guys have tank 229 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:35,160 Speaker 1: and yeah, there's a bunch. All right, great job today, 230 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:36,720 Speaker 1: is great to see if good luck through the process 231 00:10:36,720 --> 00:10:40,760 Speaker 1: for sure. All right, Garrett, just giving your thoughts here. 232 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:43,120 Speaker 1: Pro day has has come to a close, and this 233 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:45,480 Speaker 1: is basically the close of your college football career on 234 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:47,640 Speaker 1: the grass. Yeah, yeah, So it's good to get back 235 00:10:47,679 --> 00:10:49,840 Speaker 1: in the indoor one last time work out with my 236 00:10:49,880 --> 00:10:53,280 Speaker 1: guys one last time. UM, cheer my teammates on. It 237 00:10:53,320 --> 00:10:55,280 Speaker 1: was good. It's good. Close to it. So I look 238 00:10:55,320 --> 00:10:56,600 Speaker 1: like you try to get you guys through a nice 239 00:10:56,640 --> 00:10:58,840 Speaker 1: little pace there, kept the brisk pace going through the workout. 240 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:00,640 Speaker 1: How did it feel good? I mean, it's just they 241 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:02,120 Speaker 1: want to see a little bit of conditioning, a little 242 00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:04,840 Speaker 1: bit offensive line skill skill work. So you've just got 243 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:06,559 Speaker 1: shown what you've been doing in the past few months, 244 00:11:06,559 --> 00:11:09,280 Speaker 1: past five years. Really. Uh, it's just it's a good 245 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 1: accumulation of all the work you put in. So how 246 00:11:11,520 --> 00:11:12,959 Speaker 1: fun is it to just be out here with your 247 00:11:12,960 --> 00:11:14,760 Speaker 1: guys though? You know, you get a quarterback out here 248 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:16,640 Speaker 1: and Ryan Finley, a whole bunch of wide receivers this 249 00:11:16,720 --> 00:11:18,240 Speaker 1: offense and a lot of pieces are gonna have to 250 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:21,080 Speaker 1: replace her DNC State. Yeah absolutely. Um, Like I said, 251 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:23,080 Speaker 1: it's it was awesome to get some work in one 252 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:25,640 Speaker 1: last time. A big tea and Tyler Jones. Um to 253 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:28,400 Speaker 1: my roommates offensive line guys I've been with for for 254 00:11:28,520 --> 00:11:31,079 Speaker 1: five years. Ryan Finley another roommate of mine. Um, good 255 00:11:31,080 --> 00:11:33,440 Speaker 1: to see him do his thing out here. All the receivers. 256 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:35,840 Speaker 1: I mean, it's awesome. You just you love to see guys, 257 00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:38,720 Speaker 1: UM hard work payoff. You love to see success with 258 00:11:38,760 --> 00:11:41,200 Speaker 1: them right now because you've seen the hours they put 259 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:45,160 Speaker 1: in the off season, UM with our strength and conditioning staff. Um, 260 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:47,640 Speaker 1: just from the moment they got here. So the most 261 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:49,439 Speaker 1: important question I have for you is can I get 262 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:51,640 Speaker 1: a membership to the book club that that you guys have? 263 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:54,040 Speaker 1: You gonna have to ask Ryan. That's that's all Ryan's saying. 264 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:56,640 Speaker 1: I'm in and I'm all about it, UM, and it's good. 265 00:11:56,760 --> 00:11:58,600 Speaker 1: We definitely picked up reading a lot in the past year. 266 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:02,360 Speaker 1: Just um a number of reasons. But that that's Ryan. 267 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:04,800 Speaker 1: You're not asking about the membership thing. What's the name? 268 00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:06,400 Speaker 1: What's the name for those who don't know the name 269 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:11,760 Speaker 1: of of the club? Um, it was called Extraordinary Gentleman Um. 270 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:14,120 Speaker 1: Ryan and and j Cole kind of headhunted that thing, 271 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:15,840 Speaker 1: and UM it was awesome. It's just a good group 272 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:18,000 Speaker 1: of guys that, UM we get together and hang out 273 00:12:18,040 --> 00:12:20,400 Speaker 1: and read a few books and stuff like that. So 274 00:12:20,920 --> 00:12:23,400 Speaker 1: I'm excited. I'm gonna force my way into this reading club. 275 00:12:23,679 --> 00:12:26,480 Speaker 1: And I would try and get some of my colleagues 276 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:29,400 Speaker 1: at the Network, namely Rhet Lewis to join the club, 277 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:31,400 Speaker 1: but we're not sure he knows how to read Garrett. 278 00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:34,560 Speaker 1: So that's I don't know if that's gonna happen. There 279 00:12:34,559 --> 00:12:40,760 Speaker 1: you go, I mean I can read. Okay. You see 280 00:12:40,760 --> 00:12:45,400 Speaker 1: these shoes, they say Adidas. I come on, d J, 281 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:49,440 Speaker 1: geez no. This here's this guy who has not who 282 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:51,440 Speaker 1: has not made it into the studio yet for Path 283 00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:53,160 Speaker 1: to the Draft. I feel like he hasn't done a 284 00:12:53,160 --> 00:12:56,120 Speaker 1: podcast in a year. I mean, isn't this like just 285 00:12:56,160 --> 00:12:59,880 Speaker 1: this draft season? This is when this this podcast was originated. Right, 286 00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:02,800 Speaker 1: the people want to hear from him. He's a wall. 287 00:13:02,880 --> 00:13:05,000 Speaker 1: So maybe we're getting back next We'll see, We'll be 288 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:08,560 Speaker 1: fine without him. It's all good interested discussion, I think. 289 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:12,000 Speaker 1: I think it's interesting discussion. Uh DJ had the opportunity 290 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:15,439 Speaker 1: to get with those guys doing their pro day. UM, 291 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:17,480 Speaker 1: I think a couple of the pro days that are notable. 292 00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:20,439 Speaker 1: Mississippi State had their pro day this week, and in 293 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:23,320 Speaker 1: talking to people that attended uh they were a little 294 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:26,640 Speaker 1: surprised that Montes Sweat worked out, but in talking to 295 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:30,880 Speaker 1: people around Sweats Camp, they wanted to show that he 296 00:13:30,960 --> 00:13:33,200 Speaker 1: not only could be the edge rushing that people have 297 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:35,600 Speaker 1: seen in terms of being able to come after the quarterback, 298 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:37,640 Speaker 1: but they wanted to show three four teams that he 299 00:13:37,640 --> 00:13:41,319 Speaker 1: could drop and move around and potentially playing space. And so, 300 00:13:41,440 --> 00:13:43,080 Speaker 1: even though you would like the thing that he had 301 00:13:43,120 --> 00:13:45,920 Speaker 1: checked off all the boxes throughout the process, he wanted 302 00:13:45,960 --> 00:13:48,719 Speaker 1: to kind of put the cherry on the Sunday by 303 00:13:48,800 --> 00:13:51,200 Speaker 1: going out showing people that he had good movement skills 304 00:13:51,280 --> 00:13:54,400 Speaker 1: off the edge, and by all accounts he was pretty solid. 305 00:13:54,640 --> 00:13:58,840 Speaker 1: We also saw Jonathan Abrams at their workout. Um, look 306 00:13:58,960 --> 00:14:01,679 Speaker 1: number one safety, no more safety. He's a downhill player. 307 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:03,160 Speaker 1: He's a guy that kind of reminds me of Riding 308 00:14:03,200 --> 00:14:06,199 Speaker 1: Harrison in terms of he brings the grit in the toughness. Um, 309 00:14:06,200 --> 00:14:08,520 Speaker 1: he's gonna be a guy that's fantastic around the box. 310 00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:11,920 Speaker 1: He's gonna be an enforcer to kind of uh, first rounder. 311 00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:14,400 Speaker 1: I think he's a first rounder. I think he's a 312 00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:16,200 Speaker 1: first round. I think he gets into the first round. 313 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:19,360 Speaker 1: I think his ability to kind of be the enforcer 314 00:14:19,560 --> 00:14:21,920 Speaker 1: against the run and also against the past is going 315 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:23,720 Speaker 1: to make him be a guy that's in the conversation 316 00:14:23,800 --> 00:14:27,120 Speaker 1: the first round pick is Jeffrey Simmons. Too good of 317 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:31,800 Speaker 1: a player, win healthy, and you know are are you 318 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:37,440 Speaker 1: also comfortable enough with the off the field stuff to 319 00:14:37,640 --> 00:14:39,880 Speaker 1: make him a first round pick. I think he's gonna 320 00:14:39,880 --> 00:14:43,040 Speaker 1: be a border round borderline first round pick, meaning teams 321 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:45,320 Speaker 1: are gonna have to think long and hard about do 322 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:46,960 Speaker 1: we make this pick in the first round or do 323 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:48,840 Speaker 1: we wait and can we get him in the second round. 324 00:14:49,320 --> 00:14:51,200 Speaker 1: It's going to be open for business at the top 325 00:14:51,240 --> 00:14:53,280 Speaker 1: of the second round because teams are gonna target him 326 00:14:53,440 --> 00:14:56,600 Speaker 1: to get that significant savings from first round to second round. 327 00:14:56,600 --> 00:14:58,760 Speaker 1: You get him at a value. Some people may look 328 00:14:58,840 --> 00:15:01,640 Speaker 1: for that, but because everyone knows that he is the 329 00:15:01,760 --> 00:15:03,880 Speaker 1: value pick, I can see at the bottom of the 330 00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:08,480 Speaker 1: first round his name being called anywhere from thirty two. Sure, 331 00:15:08,680 --> 00:15:10,720 Speaker 1: and I think that's interesting. In the second round, I 332 00:15:10,720 --> 00:15:12,840 Speaker 1: think that's a place for a lot of teams. You know, 333 00:15:13,080 --> 00:15:14,880 Speaker 1: they will take a little bit of a risk on 334 00:15:14,920 --> 00:15:18,000 Speaker 1: a guy with high end talent. For sure, that's what 335 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:19,800 Speaker 1: you want to get. We saw Landa Collins go to 336 00:15:20,080 --> 00:15:23,000 Speaker 1: beginning of the second round. We saw Miles Jack, We 337 00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:25,200 Speaker 1: saw you know, because he had the knee injury question. 338 00:15:25,240 --> 00:15:27,920 Speaker 1: Then of course Jalen Smith both second round picks. Uh 339 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:31,120 Speaker 1: because years ago, um, you know, the Patriots took Rob 340 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:33,720 Speaker 1: Gronkowski in the second round after he didn't even play 341 00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:35,840 Speaker 1: his final year in college. You know that those are 342 00:15:35,880 --> 00:15:37,840 Speaker 1: some of those some of those spots where you typically 343 00:15:37,880 --> 00:15:39,440 Speaker 1: see it. And I bet if he's not off the 344 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:42,120 Speaker 1: board by thirty two, the Cardinals are. People are knocking 345 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:45,040 Speaker 1: down their doors at thirty three. So that's and that's 346 00:15:45,080 --> 00:15:48,800 Speaker 1: the conversation, because the conversation you have to have, Uh internally, 347 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:52,360 Speaker 1: how much do I really want Simmons? If I really 348 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:53,640 Speaker 1: want him, I may have to jump up in the 349 00:15:53,680 --> 00:15:55,160 Speaker 1: first round and make sure that I get the guy 350 00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:58,200 Speaker 1: that I want. If not, can't I wait until the 351 00:15:58,240 --> 00:16:00,720 Speaker 1: next day and hope that he used on on the board. 352 00:16:01,400 --> 00:16:03,320 Speaker 1: It's a tough one. I think he's a super talented player, 353 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:06,200 Speaker 1: no injury. You're talking about a top ten player. Absolutely. 354 00:16:06,480 --> 00:16:09,360 Speaker 1: And then at Florida, Jakai played Chauncey Gardner Johnson, a 355 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:11,160 Speaker 1: guy I knew you like, and then Joanna Taylor your 356 00:16:11,200 --> 00:16:14,360 Speaker 1: top tackle. Uh, he's still your top tacle. He's still 357 00:16:14,360 --> 00:16:16,480 Speaker 1: my top tackle. Like there's there's nothing that he could 358 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:19,120 Speaker 1: do to kind of hurt himself. He's uh talented, He 359 00:16:19,160 --> 00:16:22,600 Speaker 1: has excellent balancing body control, plays nasty moves people off 360 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:24,760 Speaker 1: the ball, he's terrific in the run game. This pro 361 00:16:24,840 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 1: day was big for Jakaik Polite, not even for what 362 00:16:27,800 --> 00:16:29,720 Speaker 1: he needs to do on the field, but could he 363 00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:33,080 Speaker 1: represent himself better when he had an opportunity to sit 364 00:16:33,120 --> 00:16:37,000 Speaker 1: down with scouts, UH, coaches and the like, because he 365 00:16:37,080 --> 00:16:38,880 Speaker 1: really heard himself. And a lot of it was due 366 00:16:38,880 --> 00:16:42,160 Speaker 1: to how he interviewed at the combine. There are questions 367 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:46,400 Speaker 1: about his ability and answers the questions. How confrontational he 368 00:16:46,440 --> 00:16:49,440 Speaker 1: may have gotten. So you think about that and he's 369 00:16:49,440 --> 00:16:51,640 Speaker 1: he comes off as angry. What do you want to 370 00:16:51,640 --> 00:16:53,520 Speaker 1: bring that kind of guy into your locker room? And 371 00:16:53,560 --> 00:16:58,440 Speaker 1: so it was very important for him too, uh communicate well, 372 00:16:58,560 --> 00:17:01,320 Speaker 1: communicate even better with the scouts in the coaches, and 373 00:17:01,360 --> 00:17:04,320 Speaker 1: show a willingness to kind of buy into whatever people 374 00:17:04,359 --> 00:17:07,119 Speaker 1: are selling. He does that he can kind of help himself. 375 00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:10,359 Speaker 1: But he really heard himself at the combine. That's interesting perspective. 376 00:17:10,800 --> 00:17:14,560 Speaker 1: Their anger, you know, is a question, but focused anger, 377 00:17:14,640 --> 00:17:16,959 Speaker 1: we can deal with it. Yeah, we like that, all right. 378 00:17:17,400 --> 00:17:19,040 Speaker 1: So look, that's a look at some of the pro 379 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:21,560 Speaker 1: days we saw this week. Let's get into the main 380 00:17:21,600 --> 00:17:26,119 Speaker 1: event here. We're talking wide receiver. The main this is 381 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:29,359 Speaker 1: the main event. All Right, I've got a couple of 382 00:17:29,440 --> 00:17:33,080 Speaker 1: categories here and a couple of guys. Uh. Let's start 383 00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:37,399 Speaker 1: with a guy who's probably, uh the number one receiver 384 00:17:37,480 --> 00:17:40,240 Speaker 1: in this class right now. He is the Greek god 385 00:17:40,280 --> 00:17:43,919 Speaker 1: of receivers. I've mentioned that before. He eats up grass 386 00:17:44,040 --> 00:17:47,600 Speaker 1: more and better than any receiver I've seen in person 387 00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:51,040 Speaker 1: in the last I don't know decade. And he is 388 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:53,320 Speaker 1: the top deep threat in this class? Am I wrong 389 00:17:53,359 --> 00:17:55,920 Speaker 1: in saying DK metca? I mean he's a top deep 390 00:17:55,960 --> 00:18:00,920 Speaker 1: threat um because he's big, fast and physical. You run 391 00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:03,840 Speaker 1: four three, you run into four threes at that size, 392 00:18:03,920 --> 00:18:05,639 Speaker 1: you can wake up a lot of eyes. Then you 393 00:18:05,680 --> 00:18:07,600 Speaker 1: go to the production and you talk about a guy 394 00:18:07,640 --> 00:18:12,320 Speaker 1: that is yeah, but when right, his yards for a 395 00:18:12,359 --> 00:18:15,480 Speaker 1: catch average is a robust You're talking about twenty like 396 00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:18,200 Speaker 1: that's that's the kind of production that flips to field. 397 00:18:18,440 --> 00:18:22,000 Speaker 1: The biggest thing for DK Mattcalf the player. He is 398 00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:26,560 Speaker 1: a vertical, straight line speak guy. Everything he does doesn't 399 00:18:26,600 --> 00:18:28,960 Speaker 1: require a lot of route running. He just outruns people. 400 00:18:29,720 --> 00:18:32,200 Speaker 1: From a team perspective, you have to understand this is 401 00:18:32,240 --> 00:18:35,000 Speaker 1: who he is, this is who he's going to continue 402 00:18:35,040 --> 00:18:37,960 Speaker 1: to be. So don't ask him to be a traditional 403 00:18:38,080 --> 00:18:40,879 Speaker 1: number one receiver because it won't work out. He is 404 00:18:40,920 --> 00:18:44,679 Speaker 1: a talented take the top off the coverage playmaker, and 405 00:18:44,680 --> 00:18:46,199 Speaker 1: you need to have another guy that can do the 406 00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:49,240 Speaker 1: other stuff. He is a worker too. I mean it's 407 00:18:49,280 --> 00:18:51,520 Speaker 1: you know, I'm talking to a couple of people about 408 00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:54,440 Speaker 1: him and his dad runs the show, Terrence Metcalf, who 409 00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:57,760 Speaker 1: was an offensive lineman in the league for for a 410 00:18:57,800 --> 00:19:01,560 Speaker 1: long time. UM. Also an old miss guy. UM. And 411 00:19:01,880 --> 00:19:04,439 Speaker 1: you know, I think he understands what it takes to 412 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:07,639 Speaker 1: be a pro. Uh. And I think that that's also 413 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:10,920 Speaker 1: something that's important in this category here talking about d K. 414 00:19:11,119 --> 00:19:13,480 Speaker 1: I'm excited to watch him. Man, He's he's so much fun. 415 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:15,199 Speaker 1: I remember just watching that I believe it was the 416 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:17,679 Speaker 1: Texas Tech game. He was just flying up and down 417 00:19:17,760 --> 00:19:21,160 Speaker 1: the field. You know. All right, So here's an interesting 418 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:23,800 Speaker 1: one for you, UM, because it'll take us a little 419 00:19:23,800 --> 00:19:28,080 Speaker 1: bit further down the wide receiver list. If there's if 420 00:19:28,080 --> 00:19:30,680 Speaker 1: you have one ball to throw in the red zone, 421 00:19:31,359 --> 00:19:36,840 Speaker 1: you absolutely have to have it to win. What guy 422 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:39,160 Speaker 1: are you throwing out there to go up and get 423 00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:41,920 Speaker 1: that ball to win you to score you a touchdown 424 00:19:41,960 --> 00:19:44,680 Speaker 1: and win you that game. This is because there's so 425 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:46,680 Speaker 1: many post up play. There are some of those guys 426 00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:53,400 Speaker 1: in this draft class. I feel like, but, but, but, 427 00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:58,720 Speaker 1: but I'm going with j J. Yes, do it whiteside Yes, 428 00:19:58,920 --> 00:20:02,359 Speaker 1: and I think yeah. The thing about j J is 429 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:06,239 Speaker 1: the basketball background obviously comes from a basketball petigree. Mom 430 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:09,920 Speaker 1: and dad both were hoopers, both have distinguished careers, both 431 00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:12,080 Speaker 1: are known for being that. He was a guy at 432 00:20:12,119 --> 00:20:15,040 Speaker 1: South Carolina. Obviously you've done it. But when you watch 433 00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:17,320 Speaker 1: him one tape, the guy put together a season where 434 00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:20,640 Speaker 1: he had fourteen touchdowns and when you look at all 435 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:24,000 Speaker 1: of the touchdowns, I feel like eleven of them were identical. 436 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:28,920 Speaker 1: He ended dB get to the corner. Uh. The quarterbacks like, 437 00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:31,240 Speaker 1: oh he's covered, but I'm a thrower to him anyway, 438 00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:34,600 Speaker 1: and he comes down with it. His strength at the 439 00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:38,640 Speaker 1: point of the catch is terrific. He just fends off 440 00:20:38,760 --> 00:20:41,919 Speaker 1: defenders and some people just understand it. I think he 441 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:44,679 Speaker 1: has a keen understanding of how to post defenders up, 442 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:47,280 Speaker 1: put him on the back, and make plays. Makes him 443 00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:49,359 Speaker 1: a dangerous weapon in the old man. And you know 444 00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:52,240 Speaker 1: you mentioned the basketball background. His uncle's round the Spanish 445 00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:55,920 Speaker 1: national team in the Olympics. I mean and he brings 446 00:20:56,119 --> 00:20:59,960 Speaker 1: hoops to the field, particularly in the end zone. Twenty 447 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:02,879 Speaker 1: eight total touchdowns for his career at Stanford All State 448 00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:07,560 Speaker 1: High School Basketball. Yeah, yeah, fun. Gotta watch down there 449 00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:08,879 Speaker 1: in the red zone for sure. All Right, let's get 450 00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:11,400 Speaker 1: to the slots here, because you can kind of make 451 00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:14,040 Speaker 1: the argument there's two categories now for slots, right, there's 452 00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:17,080 Speaker 1: the traditional slot, maybe the Welker Edelments type, and then 453 00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:19,840 Speaker 1: there's the big slot stocked about those guys a little 454 00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:23,280 Speaker 1: bit the Cooper Cups kind of in that conversation, Um, 455 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:27,560 Speaker 1: let's talk traditional slots to me. This screams Deebo Samuel. Oh, 456 00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:29,960 Speaker 1: it absolutely screams. He's built for it. He is a 457 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:32,080 Speaker 1: guy that basically when he has a ball in his hands, 458 00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:35,040 Speaker 1: he runs around like a running back. Yet the speed, 459 00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:39,280 Speaker 1: the stop start quickness, the acceleration and burst, he has 460 00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:41,720 Speaker 1: all those things that would make him a terror. And 461 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:45,680 Speaker 1: the slot and so you know, you're just trying to 462 00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:47,960 Speaker 1: get him the ball and let him work because he 463 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:52,600 Speaker 1: is also very tough to bring up. He's he's a 464 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:56,040 Speaker 1: fantastic player playmaker. Oh, I love it. I mean, I 465 00:21:56,040 --> 00:21:58,240 Speaker 1: think he'd be a great value of slips, you know, 466 00:21:58,359 --> 00:22:01,440 Speaker 1: in a second round somewhere for for a team, because 467 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:02,920 Speaker 1: he you know, he's a guy to catch the ball 468 00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:06,320 Speaker 1: and win with it afterwards for sure. Any other guys 469 00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:09,760 Speaker 1: that fit that bill for you? Um particularly, I mean, look, 470 00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:11,440 Speaker 1: I think we talked about Andy as about a lot, 471 00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:14,520 Speaker 1: but he I mean more of the deep speed right there. 472 00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:17,920 Speaker 1: It's just more it's more the fascination with the defeat. 473 00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:22,040 Speaker 1: Not necessarily that he's an Amndola walker type. You just 474 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:24,240 Speaker 1: don't see guys that can run dead fast vertically that 475 00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:28,760 Speaker 1: can get out their original situation. So it is interesting 476 00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:32,000 Speaker 1: to see the buzz tie to him because he didn't 477 00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:35,359 Speaker 1: wow it at a senior Bowl. But in games hands 478 00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:37,679 Speaker 1: a little bit of a question there as well. Games 479 00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:39,720 Speaker 1: you begin to sew them kind of take over. How 480 00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:42,720 Speaker 1: about the big slots? I think A J. Brown is 481 00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:45,159 Speaker 1: the guy that stands out to me. But all of 482 00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:49,040 Speaker 1: these big receivers that we're talking about, and Kio Harry, um, 483 00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:54,399 Speaker 1: A J. Brown, uh, someone else they jumps inside. Uh 484 00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:57,320 Speaker 1: those two in particularly, I think they could be terrific. 485 00:22:57,720 --> 00:23:00,119 Speaker 1: And the slot, Yeah, I'm trying to figure who is 486 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:02,359 Speaker 1: what I'd like to see in the slide. Oh I 487 00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:04,840 Speaker 1: wrote down that I would like to sleep. I would 488 00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:07,560 Speaker 1: like to see Hakim Butler work from the slide. He 489 00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:09,840 Speaker 1: only works on the outside pretty much. I will stay, 490 00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:11,280 Speaker 1: but I would love to see him in the slide 491 00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:14,520 Speaker 1: just because of the size, the length he gives you 492 00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:18,520 Speaker 1: basically a glorified tied in but with why receiver attributes 493 00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:22,440 Speaker 1: and so Paris Campbell. Paris Campbell is, but he's not 494 00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:25,720 Speaker 1: a post up. Paris Campbell certainly can jump and the slide, 495 00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:27,720 Speaker 1: he did it last season, but he's not a rob run. 496 00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:30,239 Speaker 1: He's more of what I call a playmaker. Get him 497 00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:32,840 Speaker 1: the ball and let him go. And that's and we 498 00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:35,240 Speaker 1: talked about this little bit yesterday on path. I thought 499 00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:38,639 Speaker 1: Curtis Conway mentioned it was kind of interesting off camera. 500 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:41,359 Speaker 1: It was like he's Alvin Kamara a little bit. You know, 501 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:44,919 Speaker 1: he doesn't have the high yards per reception like a 502 00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:47,960 Speaker 1: DK Metcalf, even though they have the similar speed. He's 503 00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:49,560 Speaker 1: more down to the eleven. That's because you're getting him 504 00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:51,000 Speaker 1: the ball closer to the line of scrimmage and let 505 00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:54,040 Speaker 1: him go. Yeah, the bubble screens, the now rouse, the 506 00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:56,800 Speaker 1: things that can let him touch it right away. Those 507 00:23:56,840 --> 00:23:58,720 Speaker 1: are the things that you're leaning on because you want 508 00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:02,480 Speaker 1: him to showcase his exceptional running skills, to create first 509 00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:05,120 Speaker 1: downs and more. All right, I got another category for you. Oh, 510 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:10,719 Speaker 1: I like it. Big game player, biggest plays in the 511 00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:14,399 Speaker 1: biggest spots. Who rings that bell to me? Marky's Brown 512 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:17,040 Speaker 1: rings the bill? Hollywood? Yeah, I'm gonna go a Hollywood Hollywood. 513 00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:18,320 Speaker 1: I think is a big game player. And I know 514 00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:20,360 Speaker 1: people would look at the last game that he played 515 00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:23,359 Speaker 1: in when they lost, he was beat up. I think 516 00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:28,520 Speaker 1: without like the the the hiccup, without the injury. I 517 00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:31,040 Speaker 1: don't think that's that's the problem. I think his speed, 518 00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:35,360 Speaker 1: his explosives, his route running ability, very very similar to 519 00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:39,320 Speaker 1: the to Sean Jackson. He's just a dynamic player that 520 00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:42,239 Speaker 1: you have to get the ball into his hands, and 521 00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:43,719 Speaker 1: you want to get into his hands and give him 522 00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:46,159 Speaker 1: a chance later in the game when it's all on 523 00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:48,880 Speaker 1: the line. A couple of guys I really loved as well, 524 00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:51,800 Speaker 1: and I'm not sure what category they fit in right now, 525 00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:54,000 Speaker 1: but they're they're two of my favorite guys that are 526 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:55,520 Speaker 1: a little bit further down. We saw him at the 527 00:24:55,520 --> 00:25:00,520 Speaker 1: Senior Bowl. Keelan Doss uc Davis pop popped his peck. Yeah, 528 00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:03,560 Speaker 1: what are we doing? I know we can't do that right, 529 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:06,639 Speaker 1: but he was. He was a fun guy to watch 530 00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:09,320 Speaker 1: down a mobile. The same thing for me with Alex 531 00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:12,960 Speaker 1: Wesley at a Northern Colorado. Um, I thought he was 532 00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:16,240 Speaker 1: really sudden at the top of his routes. Um, maybe 533 00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:18,480 Speaker 1: a little bit stiff, but so, I mean a thousand 534 00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:20,560 Speaker 1: yard receiver back to back years and the Big Sky 535 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:23,840 Speaker 1: at the Northern Colorado and how about the four meter 536 00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:27,440 Speaker 1: champ three times in the Big Sky. You're not gonna 537 00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:30,040 Speaker 1: run him out of gas, you know what I mean. 538 00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:34,679 Speaker 1: He definitely definitely tough to deal. So it's funny you 539 00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:36,800 Speaker 1: mentioned those guys. There's a guy that I'm keeping my 540 00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:40,960 Speaker 1: eye on, Jalen heard from all. The reason I keep 541 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:42,600 Speaker 1: my eye on him is because this guy was a 542 00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:45,880 Speaker 1: very very accomplished uh running back. There were people that 543 00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:48,000 Speaker 1: felt like at some point he was going to be 544 00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:54,960 Speaker 1: a first round pick out. Yeah, he decides to remake himself. Yeah, 545 00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:57,840 Speaker 1: two years he comes back, does a great job putting 546 00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:00,960 Speaker 1: up numbers. Yeah, production, I can to your world where 547 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:03,920 Speaker 1: someone is like, wait a minute, you play tity and 548 00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:08,119 Speaker 1: oh it just brings about a new set of problems 549 00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:11,240 Speaker 1: they create with a guy like that on the field. Yeah, Tennessee. 550 00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:16,160 Speaker 1: The Baylor um for heard. I mean, that was really 551 00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:19,160 Speaker 1: interesting story about him on NFL dot Com on the 552 00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:22,359 Speaker 1: Back to Campus series, So I check that out. I 553 00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:24,879 Speaker 1: think a guy we both love, Terry McLaurin out of 554 00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:27,480 Speaker 1: Ohio State, the blue collar player, a guy come in 555 00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:30,520 Speaker 1: and contribute on special teams, but also as a candidate 556 00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:32,640 Speaker 1: to be your third or fourth wide receiver. Liked him, 557 00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:34,760 Speaker 1: love to be loved. Credit. He's going to be a 558 00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:38,960 Speaker 1: player somewhere somehow for for a team, no question. All right, 559 00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:42,320 Speaker 1: I didn't get my big game player in that Hunter Renfro. Look. 560 00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:45,000 Speaker 1: I mean in the biggest spots, he's gonna be there 561 00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:47,320 Speaker 1: for you. I don't know where he's gonna end up, 562 00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:50,439 Speaker 1: but I feel like he's gonna stick around. All Right, 563 00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:53,320 Speaker 1: here's one that's a little bit off the radar. Uh 564 00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:55,359 Speaker 1: and then I think we'll, uh, well, we'll finish it 565 00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:58,280 Speaker 1: up on this one. But um on this little category. 566 00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:01,080 Speaker 1: Maybe a sleeper receiver if you got one, Bucky, how 567 00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:08,560 Speaker 1: about Damien Jean Pierre Nicol's state. I mean, he's from 568 00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:10,919 Speaker 1: He's right in my backyard at Archbishop Rummel High School 569 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:13,160 Speaker 1: and matter he went to went to Nicols Day played 570 00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:16,120 Speaker 1: for the Colonels. Uh. He's a five tin one seventy guy. 571 00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:18,440 Speaker 1: You know, had had some good production there and they're 572 00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:21,879 Speaker 1: not a huge passing team. Um, but how about this 573 00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:25,200 Speaker 1: dude ran six five six on the three cone six 574 00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:28,960 Speaker 1: five six, one thirty nine inch vert Uh. He was 575 00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:32,320 Speaker 1: at the nflp A Collegiate Bowl as well. I think 576 00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:34,640 Speaker 1: he's a you know, maybe a Day three guy that 577 00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:38,359 Speaker 1: that could be kind of an interesting, uh really really 578 00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:40,760 Speaker 1: kind of explosive playmaker for a team. There you go, 579 00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:43,040 Speaker 1: there's one. There's one that is a good one. I 580 00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:44,760 Speaker 1: got one for you. I'm gonna go out to Oregon. 581 00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:48,040 Speaker 1: How about Dylan Mitchell from Oregon. When I look at 582 00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:51,119 Speaker 1: Dylan Mitchell on tape and haven't known him for a 583 00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:54,640 Speaker 1: long time, what I like about him. He's a fantastic 584 00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:57,960 Speaker 1: underrated playmaker, got us terrific with the ball in his hands, 585 00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:01,320 Speaker 1: very very very competitive, and I think what you had 586 00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:03,840 Speaker 1: a chance to see this year is he absolutely has 587 00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:06,199 Speaker 1: the tools to be a guy that can be a 588 00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:10,680 Speaker 1: number one receiver. I like the aggressiveness towards the ball. 589 00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:12,040 Speaker 1: I like the way he runs route so I like 590 00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:15,080 Speaker 1: the way that he takes um shot passes, and tourn 591 00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:17,359 Speaker 1: them into big games. And even though the Oregon offense 592 00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:18,919 Speaker 1: is still a little quirky when it comes to the 593 00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:22,000 Speaker 1: route running ability, Yeah, uh, I just think he's gonna 594 00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:25,520 Speaker 1: be a guy. He's just kind of flying find another 595 00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:27,880 Speaker 1: radar a little bit um, you know. And and look, 596 00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:29,800 Speaker 1: I mean we've seen plenty of uh and I don't 597 00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:31,919 Speaker 1: know if he fits the priority free agent bill, but 598 00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:34,440 Speaker 1: it's six seventh rounds something like that. Mean, we've seen 599 00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:37,480 Speaker 1: plenty of guys make contributions to their teams from that 600 00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:40,120 Speaker 1: that spot. So that's a little look, a little little 601 00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:44,880 Speaker 1: deep dive on the receiver class in this year's draft, 602 00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:48,760 Speaker 1: and that is going to do it for this edition 603 00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:52,360 Speaker 1: of the Move the Sticks Podcast Now with Rhet Lewis 604 00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:55,120 Speaker 1: and Bucky Brooks. Check out all of our content NFL 605 00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:58,400 Speaker 1: dot com, Slash MTS video, YouTube, dot com, slash NFL, 606 00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:01,800 Speaker 1: Apple podcast, wherever you get your podcast, check us out, download, subscribe. 607 00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:02,560 Speaker 1: We'll see you next time.