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Speaker 1: Good Morning Football is the production of the NFL in

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Speaker 2: Tuesday, June third, Isaiah standback, Jamieard all here in Los Angeles,

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Speaker 2: Kyle Bran, John Robinson and New York Kyle Brant your

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Speaker 2: quick thoughts on the Techmobile shirt that you're looking at

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Speaker 2: today on standback here.

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Speaker 1: Well, I'm actually going to pass the baton because, as

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Speaker 1: far as I understand, Jay rob you're classically trained in

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Speaker 1: the technobil, aren't you.

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Speaker 3: Yes, Well, who's.

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Speaker 4: Your team played at a lot of cowboys?

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Speaker 3: Cowboys?

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Speaker 5: All right?

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Speaker 3: I was a cap bozo Chicago Bears guy. But Isaiah,

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Speaker 3: you're killing who's your squad Raiders?

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Speaker 6: Your Raiders definitely bo Jackson, unstoppable.

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Speaker 2: I got nothing. I'm not of the techmobile generation, but

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Speaker 2: I appreciate and respect a good T shirt when it

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Speaker 2: comes by, especially with the Michael Irvan running through Technobile. Everybody,

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Speaker 2: it's GMFP. It starts right now, We're gonna play three.

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Speaker 7: And oho, Good mon football.

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Speaker 2: That's right, It's GMTB. Everybody Happy. June third, Tuesday. I

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Speaker 2: believe since we're all parents at the table, we are

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Speaker 2: inching closer to the end of the school year. And

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Speaker 2: much like how I like to check in before the

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Speaker 2: holiday break with the Brandt family. Kyle, how's life in

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Speaker 2: the end of the school year nearing summertime with the.

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Speaker 1: Brands It's like the coming of the apocalypse, Like we're preparing.

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Speaker 1: We're having bats of gasoline and artificial sunlight machines and

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Speaker 1: shotgun shells and all the things to prepare for when

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Speaker 1: the school finally lets the kids out.

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Speaker 3: Jay, Rob, your kids are a little bit older, how's

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Speaker 3: it for you?

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Speaker 5: It's been good.

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Speaker 4: They've been out for a while now. I got one

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Speaker 4: home from college and yeah, we get down. We get

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Speaker 4: a little early down to Tennis City for you guys,

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Speaker 4: do it right down there, and good, Yeah, we try.

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Speaker 2: What do you think you're out already?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, we're out already. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 6: My daughter got dropped off at Type one diabetes camp.

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Speaker 6: My other daughters in the middle of track season, and

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Speaker 6: my son's plays soccer right now, So it's all going

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Speaker 6: on at the standback household, Kyle, Just to fire.

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Speaker 2: You up, I signed my kids up first time ever

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Speaker 2: flag football for the fall. So it's literally like, oh,

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Speaker 2: you turn four, get out there, put a flag in

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Speaker 2: your shorts, and let's go that's the spirit, that's the sport.

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Speaker 2: Time for three and out, though, let's focus on the

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Speaker 2: NFL in June first out, the Steelers have been linked

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Speaker 2: two free agent quarterback Aaron Rodgers, who was still deciding

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Speaker 2: if he would like to play a twenty first NFL season.

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Speaker 2: So in the meantime, veteran Mason Rudolph and sixth round

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Speaker 2: rookie Will Howard are sharing the reps for the Steelers

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Speaker 2: and head coach Mike Tomlins squad. Here's the question on

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Speaker 2: three and out. Is Aaron Rodgers to the Steelers just

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Speaker 2: a matter of time? John? Is it an inevitability considering

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Speaker 2: those are the two quarterbacks the Steelers are working with

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm going to say yes. You know, Aaron's taking

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Speaker 4: the game a long time. He's done it at a

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Speaker 4: high level. You know, he missed I think a camp

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Speaker 4: last year because he was out, you know, out of

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Speaker 4: the country on a trip. I think he'll be there

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Speaker 4: I still think he's a really good player. I still

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Speaker 4: think he loves the game, and I think that football

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Speaker 1: John, respond to this take from your perspective, The take

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Speaker 1: be changing locker rooms. Again, he should be there. He

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Speaker 3: He should be there. And if he was about winning,

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Speaker 1: I saw my lifelong friend Ross Tucker, who I know,

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Speaker 1: you know, has said, listen, say all you want about

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Speaker 4: Listen, they're all valid, yeah, right, But again, I think

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Speaker 4: there's a need there for Aaron Rodgers from the Steelers,

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Speaker 4: kind of he holds all the cards. He's going to

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Speaker 4: he kind of marches to his own beat and when

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Speaker 6: Isaiah, Yeah, I'm of the belief that Aaron Rodgers will

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Speaker 6: also the belief that I think that he should be

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Speaker 6: He's done all the things right. He's an absolute beast

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Speaker 6: not being in a building right now is going to

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Speaker 6: Jazz is still missing it valuable time right now that

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Speaker 2: You know, I regret using kind of a divisive word

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Speaker 2: that it is inevitable that the Rogers is going to

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Speaker 2: reason why he's not there yet, is that it's not

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Speaker 2: We don't like is he fully healthy? The Saints who

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Speaker 2: like in Kellen Moore to work with great quarterbacks. Why

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Speaker 2: And how dare I use the word inevitable? And Rogers

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Speaker 3: Sure, I mean it's always fun to talk about.

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Speaker 1: Last week, I'm watching this video if he's on stage

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Speaker 1: aske him if he's go join the Saints. I think

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Speaker 1: I'm too old for that. Listen, loves playing this game.

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Speaker 1: I don't think he enjoys the media, but I think

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Speaker 1: he loves tweaking the media. So he's sitting here and

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Speaker 1: he likes making people wait, why is he doing this?

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Speaker 3: He's got his personal reasons, but so I think he's

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Speaker 1: He's the joker with his head out of the squad car,

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Speaker 1: and he'll sign when he's good and damn ready for

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Speaker 1: likes to play for Tomlin. He's doing all. We're going

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Speaker 1: to see it eventually, but listen, best believe if he

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Speaker 1: to be takes about no chemistry with the wide receivers

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Speaker 1: and blah blah blah.

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Speaker 3: We'll be ready. We'll have our forks out and we'll dig.

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Speaker 2: In, never forks out. My gosh, there's a great joker reference.

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Speaker 2: I know.

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Speaker 2: I love that giggle, all right, green Bay head coach.

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Speaker 2: Let's move on to Usually we'd see him with the

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Speaker 2: Head coach Matt Lafleur defended his quarterback yesterday against the

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Speaker 2: narrative that last season was a step back for Jordan

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Speaker 2: Love and the twenty six year old signal call there.

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Speaker 8: I think there's like a narrative out there that for

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Speaker 8: whatever reason, that he wasn't as productive as the year before. Well,

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Speaker 8: I mean he missed significant time.

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Speaker 8: The better of three games. Really it was Indy, it

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Speaker 8: three games is a significant amount of time, and it was.

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Speaker 2: The start to make them comfortable for the season. It

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Speaker 2: all had an effect to Love His numbers. Now that

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Speaker 2: was just in twenty twenty four. This is a look

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Speaker 2: at the last two years. You can see his completion

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Speaker 2: percentage is passing arts per game TVs. They all decrease.

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Speaker 2: Now that narrative exists, perhaps on paper, but it is

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Speaker 2: not a reality for Packers and what Matt Lafour believes

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Speaker 2: to be the market of success for his quarterback. So

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Speaker 2: here comes a second down. What do we need to

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Speaker 2: see from Jordan Love this season? John, to make sure

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Speaker 2: that you put a stamp in fans' minds that Jordan

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Speaker 2: Love is progressing the way he needs to s QB

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm going to stand out there with Matt on

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Speaker 4: the on the podium and defend Jordan Love. I think

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Speaker 4: this guy is a good player with upside to be

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Speaker 4: an outstanding player. I think when you look at offensively stylistically,

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Speaker 4: the way they want to play the game right, They've

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Speaker 4: not going to ask Jordan to drop back fifty times

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Speaker 4: and throw the ball. They're going to run the football,

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Speaker 4: They're going to run play action pass. They still want

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Speaker 4: to hit some explosive plays down the field. But when

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Speaker 4: you look at the numbers last year, I mean, he

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Speaker 1: Well, yeah, you brought me to it for this year.

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Speaker 3: He's never done that before.

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Speaker 1: They should be winning the North, like the North is

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Speaker 7: That's awesome.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, when you get that call, you kind of you

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Speaker 3: You know, words really can't describe.

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Speaker 2: There's been a lot of great players to grace the

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Speaker 2: But also what do you make of the Madden Curse?

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Speaker 4: Second I needed Yeah, I'm out, So keep it simple

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Speaker 4: I hope out there. I hope he goes out there

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Speaker 3: Have we seen anybody double up?

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Speaker 1: One of the things that Saquan just caught my attention

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Speaker 1: Really interesting read, go back and read la Danian Thomlinson

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Speaker 3: My attention goes elsewhere because.

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Speaker 1: There's Saquon doing his thing and it's glorious, and the

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Speaker 3: But for the actual play, they didn't show us the play.

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Speaker 3: He's in perfect coverage.

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Speaker 1: Let's get into Jarian Jones, not Saquon Barkley. Jarian Jones

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Speaker 6: He won the Bobby.

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Speaker 1: Forty inches tests incredibly, He's turning heads and this is

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Speaker 3: You may not know it. He was excellent.

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Speaker 3: There it is.

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Speaker 1: He had two sacks as a rookie cornerback. He was

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Speaker 1: it happened he was in perfect position to make a

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Speaker 1: Seven seventy were excellent, one was infamous. I even like

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Speaker 3: What are you gonna do about that?

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Speaker 1: If you're touched by God, you get jumped over? And

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Speaker 1: And you always will be at least your legacy. So

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Speaker 4: No, you're that was I mean, let's give it up

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Speaker 4: there exemplifies that one play doesn't define the player or

435
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Speaker 4: a player season. You know, Jorian had a great season.

436
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Speaker 4: You know, one play happened against a really supreme player.

437
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Speaker 6: And you know what.

438
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Speaker 1: You know what, guys, Now he's gonna come out for

439
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Speaker 1: his second year as this great corner for Jag from Jaguars,

440
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Speaker 1: and anybody's gonna ask him about is Travis Hunter saque

441
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Speaker 1: Marklee and Travis Hunter is going to be his entire

442
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Speaker 1: life and he's.

443
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Speaker 3: Like, dude, I'm all rookie pff I.

444
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Speaker 1: Played well too, So like we got to get Jarian

445
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Speaker 1: Jones on the show, and we gotta make sure that

446
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Speaker 1: we have his back, even though everyone else wants to

447
00:19:08,708 --> 00:19:10,428
Speaker 1: just laugh about Saquon jumping over it.

448
00:19:10,628 --> 00:19:14,148
Speaker 2: That tackle was made on the one thousand other NFL

449
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Speaker 2: players except for the one that he went to go

450
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Speaker 2: get during that reverse hurdle. So Jarian Jones, we love

451
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Speaker 2: you on GMTP. Kyle, quick question for you. I'm watching

452
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Speaker 2: that video if we have it again. I'm watching the

453
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Speaker 2: video of Saquon having to remake the hurdle and remake

454
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Speaker 2: the hurdle move. Do we think we ever get to

455
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Speaker 2: a point if you're Saquon Barkley, if you're like this

456
00:19:31,508 --> 00:19:33,908
Speaker 2: vanilla ice, like play ice ice baby, like, does ever

457
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Speaker 2: just gonna get sick of being harnessed up and like

458
00:19:36,388 --> 00:19:39,028
Speaker 2: extracted in mid air like I do other things? Guys

459
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Speaker 2: Like is this going to become Saquon's one hit wonder?

460
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Speaker 2: Like this is his last photo shoot where he has

461
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Speaker 2: to recreate the hurdle and he wants to move on

462
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Speaker 2: and do other things with his life. Kyle, this one

463
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Speaker 2: has to grant your question.

464
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Speaker 3: Well, but I don't think he's vanilla Ice.

465
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Speaker 1: He's more like he's like LEDs up on the stairway

466
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Speaker 1: to happen like this is the one song that a

467
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Speaker 1: lot of people know who aren't otherwise huge fans. But Jamie,

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Speaker 1: you know what, I'm a huge fan of every once

469
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Speaker 1: in a while. Let's go back to the Jamie camp.

470
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Speaker 1: There's the background picture behind you that is really funny.

471
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Speaker 1: It looks like Saquon is best sitting on your shoulder

472
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Speaker 1: at worst something.

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Speaker 3: I'm not gonna say. Move there.

474
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Speaker 7: Look at that.

475
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Speaker 3: He's like your little angel on theissolder there.

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Speaker 7: I love there.

477
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Speaker 2: There. Yeah, John, Oh my god, there's Jerry and we

478
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Speaker 2: don't know.

479
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Speaker 7: Back to the That's what it is.

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Speaker 2: Jari and Jones, Jari and Jones.

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Speaker 3: All right, welcome back to Good Morning Football.

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Speaker 1: If you've been watching today and yesterday, you know that

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Speaker 1: our friend John Robinson is joining me here in studio

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Speaker 1: here in New York. John's had a long career in

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Speaker 1: the NFL different front offices, and at one point, John,

486
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Speaker 1: you were the director of college scouting for the Bill

487
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Speaker 1: Belichick New England Patriots in the heart of the Dynasty.

488
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Speaker 1: And what John's gonna do today is tell us stories,

489
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Speaker 1: stories that he's lived through about that era and other eras.

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Speaker 3: And after each story, we.

491
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Speaker 1: Are going to rank them like Doctor J holding up

492
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Speaker 1: a seven or an eight during the slam Dunk contest

493
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Speaker 1: when it used to be fun. And we will rank

494
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Speaker 1: all John's stories and see where they come out on

495
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Speaker 1: our own scale. But storying them, I will take you,

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Speaker 1: my friends, to the twenty ten NFL draft here in

497
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Speaker 1: New York City at Radio City Music Hall.

498
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Speaker 3: Sam Bradford went number one overall to the Rams.

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Speaker 1: And as we go to the second round, the Bills

500
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Speaker 1: had just taken Terrell Troop, a defensive tackle for Central Florida,

501
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Speaker 1: and then things got nuts.

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Speaker 5: Watch this.

503
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Speaker 10: Bongland has traded the forty second pick to New England.

504
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Speaker 5: With the forty.

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Speaker 10: Second pick in the twenty ten NFL drafts, the New

506
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Speaker 10: England Patriots select Rob Bronkowski, tight end Arizona.

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Speaker 11: Man, I'm so funny up man, this is a great organization.

508
00:21:43,348 --> 00:21:46,028
Speaker 11: That's awesome. You gotta have one of the best quarterbacks

509
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Speaker 11: ever in the league to be throwing me the ball.

510
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Speaker 11: This is the greatest moment of my life. Man, this

511
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Speaker 11: is unbelievable.

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Speaker 1: All right, John, so you're here, First of all, what's

513
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Speaker 1: it like to watch scronk and then tell us how

514
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Speaker 1: this will happen?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm sitting there kind of chuck on watching how

516
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Speaker 4: it all unfolded. So we were at forty four and

517
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Speaker 4: the Baltimore Ravens were ahead of us at forty three,

518
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Speaker 4: and we felt like, you know, Todd Heap was there

519
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Speaker 4: in Baltimore, but we felt like there was kind of

520
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Speaker 4: be a changing of the guard there at the tight

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Speaker 4: end position. So Bill picks up the phone. Nick Caseio

522
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Speaker 4: pick up the phone. They start calling Oakland, right, They're

523
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Speaker 4: trying to get mister Davis on the phone.

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Speaker 5: You know, the clocks ticking down.

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Speaker 4: This is Al Davis. This is Al Davis. Yeah, he's

526
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Speaker 4: out on a walk somewhere or something.

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Speaker 5: I don't know. Bill can't get him.

528
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Speaker 4: Bill's got the phone like this and he's kind of

529
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Speaker 4: given me this and the clock is ticking down. There's

530
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Speaker 4: like three minutes left. So he points to the draft

531
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Speaker 4: board at Rob. So at that time, you had the

532
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Speaker 4: speaker in the middle of the table, and I got

533
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Speaker 4: our representatives in New York and said, hey, write this

534
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Speaker 4: name down, Rob Grinkowski, tight end, Arizona.

535
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Speaker 5: We're trying to make a trade. Here, hold the card.

536
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Speaker 5: Hold the card, and I'm.

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Speaker 4: Like, do you have action? And when I asked, do

538
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Speaker 4: you have action? Is there any other action at another table?

539
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Speaker 4: When he said, Baltimore's rep just got up and went

540
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Speaker 4: to the draft table. At that time, you had to

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Speaker 4: turn him in at a desk. So I'm like, all right,

542
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Speaker 4: hold it, hold it now.

543
00:23:06,948 --> 00:23:07,668
Speaker 5: It's two minutes.

544
00:23:07,708 --> 00:23:09,828
Speaker 4: Now, it's like ninety seconds, and it's a minute and

545
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Speaker 4: Bill's like still giving me this. Nick's on the phone,

546
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Speaker 4: and I'm like, all right, when this goes through, I

547
00:23:14,988 --> 00:23:17,348
Speaker 4: think it's gonna get done, Like you got to run.

548
00:23:17,868 --> 00:23:21,668
Speaker 4: And so Bill finally gives me the thumbs up. And

549
00:23:21,708 --> 00:23:25,188
Speaker 4: there's like twenty seconds and Nick's calling the league to

550
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Speaker 4: make sure the trade goes in. And I said, Jimmy,

551
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Speaker 4: you got it, and he goes, I got it. Rob

552
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Speaker 4: Gronkowski tight end Arizona. Jimmy takes off sprinting. He gets

553
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Speaker 4: the card into the table with like two seconds left.

554
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Speaker 4: The Baltimore rep is standing right there. He turns in

555
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Speaker 4: his cart at the same right after our so our

556
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Speaker 4: pick is in. You know, we jumped ahead of Baltimore.

557
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Speaker 4: We had forty two. Baltimore was immediately on the clock

558
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Speaker 4: at forty three and they were ready to pick. We

559
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Speaker 4: get Rob grind Cawski. They take Sergio Kenda, a linebacker

560
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Speaker 4: out of Texas. They thought we were clamoring up to

561
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Speaker 4: get Sergio. We thought they were clamoring up to get Rob.

562
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Speaker 4: And it's just the you know, the kind of misdirection

563
00:24:06,708 --> 00:24:09,268
Speaker 4: that's what happens in the draft. But we were able

564
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Speaker 4: to get Rob. Great player. You know, he's talked about

565
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Speaker 4: his the whole process and the draft interview and all

566
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Speaker 4: that stuff that he didn't do so well on.

567
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Speaker 3: But I mean talk about a guy.

568
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Speaker 4: That loved football, loved football, was a great teammate and

569
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Speaker 4: was it was it was fun to be a part

570
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Speaker 4: of the team when he was there.

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Speaker 1: All right, it's fantastic, and you have an actual buzzer

572
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Speaker 1: beater three.

573
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Speaker 3: It's like a Mission Impossible movie. We submit the thing.

574
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Speaker 1: We're gonna write down our scores quickly. Tell us what

575
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Speaker 1: your memories Gronke didn't like his interview. What are your

576
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Speaker 1: memories of his interview?

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Speaker 4: Well, he would, I mean, he went on about he

578
00:24:38,428 --> 00:24:43,028
Speaker 4: fell asleep, and then he I asked him, like what

579
00:24:43,108 --> 00:24:45,708
Speaker 4: he liked to do besides football, and he liked SpongeBob.

580
00:24:47,388 --> 00:24:49,388
Speaker 4: It was just kind of but I just kept coming

581
00:24:49,428 --> 00:24:51,188
Speaker 4: back to the film and the guy was just such

582
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Speaker 4: a beast.

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Speaker 1: You know, I start this off like the fact that

584
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Speaker 1: that's the nature and you're going back and forth.

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Speaker 3: You can't get mister Davis on the phone.

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Speaker 1: You have the guy who is maybe the best tight

587
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Speaker 1: end to ever play the game and will be a

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Speaker 1: first Baut Hall of Famer. I have an eight eight

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00:25:04,788 --> 00:25:06,708
Speaker 1: for the Rob Grondkowski story. Where do you guys go?

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Speaker 2: Dang it, you guys are all gonna you know me,

591
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Speaker 2: I'm going I had goose bumps.

592
00:25:12,468 --> 00:25:12,828
Speaker 3: I did?

593
00:25:13,148 --> 00:25:13,428
Speaker 2: I did?

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Speaker 5: Who?

595
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Speaker 2: Who is this person that had you run the card?

596
00:25:15,828 --> 00:25:18,148
Speaker 2: Jimmy Who? Jimmy What? What would Jimmy do for you guys?

597
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Speaker 5: Jimmy D.

598
00:25:18,908 --> 00:25:21,788
Speaker 4: So Jimmy D was our video sausage, No, Jimmy Dean

599
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Speaker 4: Jimmy D. Shout out Jimmy D. Jimmy time video coordinator

600
00:25:27,788 --> 00:25:31,708
Speaker 4: there with New England. Great, great guy. Okay, great, and

601
00:25:31,748 --> 00:25:33,268
Speaker 4: know how fast he was, but he's fast enough to

602
00:25:33,268 --> 00:25:36,308
Speaker 4: be closed. The lid gets dicey sometimes. But what's the

603
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Speaker 4: next story, John, Let's get into that.

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Speaker 6: All right.

605
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Speaker 4: So we've got a couple of combine interview stories. Once

606
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Speaker 4: while I was in Tampa and and we're you know,

607
00:25:44,788 --> 00:25:47,788
Speaker 4: we bring in it was a defensive back, and you

608
00:25:47,788 --> 00:25:49,788
Speaker 4: know you do the pledge intries, Hey, how you doing

609
00:25:49,788 --> 00:25:52,348
Speaker 4: where you're from? Tell me about your family, YadA, YadA, YadA.

610
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Speaker 4: So we want to get into.

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Speaker 5: The nuts of bolts right with.

612
00:25:55,108 --> 00:25:57,868
Speaker 4: With what the guy actually knows about the game of football.

613
00:25:57,908 --> 00:26:00,148
Speaker 4: So we're like, all right, tell us, why don't you

614
00:26:00,188 --> 00:26:01,748
Speaker 4: just get up on the white board there and draw,

615
00:26:01,988 --> 00:26:03,748
Speaker 4: you know, one of your lead coverages, like one of

616
00:26:03,748 --> 00:26:07,028
Speaker 4: the main coverage. So the player gets up there and

617
00:26:07,108 --> 00:26:10,388
Speaker 4: he starts drawing, and he's drawing. When he draws the receivers,

618
00:26:10,548 --> 00:26:14,668
Speaker 4: I know we're probably going down the wrong path when

619
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Speaker 4: he's putting o's and he's putting x's instead of like

620
00:26:18,548 --> 00:26:22,828
Speaker 4: Z receiver, slot receiver, X receiver. So we've got o's

621
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Speaker 4: and x's up there. So somebody stops and one of

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Speaker 4: the coaches stop him in Tampa and we're.

623
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Speaker 3: Like, what what did.

624
00:26:28,868 --> 00:26:30,988
Speaker 5: You call this? Covers? And he goes, oh, we call this,

625
00:26:31,108 --> 00:26:31,668
Speaker 5: we call this.

626
00:26:31,668 --> 00:26:34,508
Speaker 4: Three CAT and we're like write it up there, like

627
00:26:34,548 --> 00:26:35,908
Speaker 4: write the coverage up there so we know.

628
00:26:36,668 --> 00:26:42,068
Speaker 5: So he he goes three K A.

629
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Speaker 4: T and I just kind of put my hand and

630
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Speaker 4: I like this and I'm like, yeah, I don't.

631
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Speaker 3: I don't know if this is gonna go real.

632
00:26:49,628 --> 00:26:53,988
Speaker 4: Well, we finished the interview and uh, let's just say

633
00:26:53,988 --> 00:26:56,828
Speaker 4: we didn't draft the player. He went on to play

634
00:26:56,868 --> 00:26:58,668
Speaker 4: for a little while. I don't forgot I forgot who

635
00:26:58,668 --> 00:27:02,308
Speaker 4: he played for. But you get a lot of things

636
00:27:02,308 --> 00:27:04,548
Speaker 4: in these draft interviews. I've got another one after you

637
00:27:04,548 --> 00:27:05,628
Speaker 4: guys score this one.

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00:27:05,988 --> 00:27:07,668
Speaker 3: Oh really, all right, I'm going to do this.

639
00:27:11,868 --> 00:27:14,388
Speaker 2: The scores right there, three Cat three Cat.

640
00:27:15,068 --> 00:27:15,748
Speaker 3: Oh that's right.

641
00:27:16,668 --> 00:27:20,268
Speaker 6: I remember being in the New England pat room at

642
00:27:20,308 --> 00:27:21,988
Speaker 6: the Combine and having to be on the board.

643
00:27:22,028 --> 00:27:23,108
Speaker 3: So I'm rugging with a seven.

644
00:27:23,148 --> 00:27:26,708
Speaker 6: I remember how stressful that was. But I didn't spell cat.

645
00:27:27,108 --> 00:27:30,788
Speaker 3: No, I didn't do that. See I see, I go

646
00:27:30,908 --> 00:27:31,988
Speaker 3: the top opposite way on this.

647
00:27:32,748 --> 00:27:34,348
Speaker 1: I love this guy. I'm going with a one for

648
00:27:34,428 --> 00:27:36,708
Speaker 1: the story. I think Cat was based on someone's name

649
00:27:36,788 --> 00:27:39,028
Speaker 1: that was K A T. And I think he's laughing

650
00:27:39,028 --> 00:27:41,668
Speaker 1: at you, Jay Rob. It's actually spelled with a K.

651
00:27:42,148 --> 00:27:43,548
Speaker 1: He went out to become a first team All Pro.

652
00:27:43,628 --> 00:27:45,628
Speaker 1: People don't know that it's actually the story. The player

653
00:27:45,628 --> 00:27:47,588
Speaker 1: is actually Durell Revis. I'll just score it right now.

654
00:27:47,628 --> 00:27:49,948
Speaker 1: So he ended up having the last lap. I'm gonna

655
00:27:49,948 --> 00:27:51,988
Speaker 1: give that a one, John, what's your next?

656
00:27:52,548 --> 00:27:53,628
Speaker 3: It wasn't res all right.

657
00:27:53,988 --> 00:27:58,988
Speaker 4: So the other Combine interview story our scouts had, you know,

658
00:27:59,428 --> 00:28:00,948
Speaker 4: the scouts go out on the road and I'll tell

659
00:28:00,948 --> 00:28:03,388
Speaker 4: a couple of scouting stories next, right, But they come

660
00:28:03,428 --> 00:28:06,028
Speaker 4: back with their inform, you know, the background on the player,

661
00:28:06,148 --> 00:28:09,308
Speaker 4: things that the player has gone through. And this player

662
00:28:09,348 --> 00:28:14,028
Speaker 4: had been accused or of taking something right, doing something.

663
00:28:14,028 --> 00:28:15,388
Speaker 4: I don't know if it was out of lockers, but

664
00:28:15,428 --> 00:28:19,508
Speaker 4: there was some's just say petty theft involved, got it,

665
00:28:19,628 --> 00:28:23,588
Speaker 4: no convictions or anything. So we're we're sitting there in

666
00:28:23,628 --> 00:28:28,348
Speaker 4: the draft in the combine room and somebody brings it

667
00:28:28,428 --> 00:28:32,188
Speaker 4: up and like he he kind of just like looks

668
00:28:32,428 --> 00:28:35,868
Speaker 4: and is shocked that we're asking him the question, and

669
00:28:36,588 --> 00:28:39,068
Speaker 4: like all of a sudden deadpen he looks.

670
00:28:39,348 --> 00:28:41,708
Speaker 5: He he looks at whoever asked the question.

671
00:28:41,748 --> 00:28:46,188
Speaker 4: He was like, man, who he stole some stuff before?

672
00:28:47,508 --> 00:28:48,828
Speaker 5: Who astole some stuff before?

673
00:28:48,988 --> 00:28:51,268
Speaker 4: Yeah, so we just start laughing, you know, because like

674
00:28:51,308 --> 00:28:53,628
Speaker 4: how do you come back from from you know, from that?

675
00:28:54,068 --> 00:28:58,588
Speaker 4: And so yeah, always the Combine interviews are always entertaining

676
00:28:58,628 --> 00:29:00,068
Speaker 4: with the with the answers that you get.

677
00:29:00,228 --> 00:29:02,148
Speaker 3: Did you guys end up drafting that player.

678
00:29:03,468 --> 00:29:06,348
Speaker 4: No, we did not draft no, no, but he packed

679
00:29:06,388 --> 00:29:07,228
Speaker 4: up the room, though.

680
00:29:07,228 --> 00:29:07,948
Speaker 5: He did laugh.

681
00:29:08,068 --> 00:29:10,428
Speaker 4: He played, yeah, all right, I.

682
00:29:10,428 --> 00:29:11,668
Speaker 3: Like this story, John.

683
00:29:11,708 --> 00:29:13,788
Speaker 2: To answer your own question, how does one move on

684
00:29:13,868 --> 00:29:15,388
Speaker 2: from that? Did you still put him on the board

685
00:29:15,468 --> 00:29:17,748
Speaker 2: or were you just like, all right, nice to meet you.

686
00:29:17,828 --> 00:29:21,588
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, Like well, we were actually laughing with him

687
00:29:21,628 --> 00:29:25,508
Speaker 4: with his answer yes, because like he admitted, like, yeah,

688
00:29:25,548 --> 00:29:28,508
Speaker 4: I did it, but like you know, I'm still a

689
00:29:28,508 --> 00:29:30,228
Speaker 4: good player. Like if you want me to take.

690
00:29:30,148 --> 00:29:32,268
Speaker 3: Me, I listen. I like this story.

691
00:29:32,348 --> 00:29:34,628
Speaker 1: I think he was going to the Gospel of John

692
00:29:34,668 --> 00:29:37,588
Speaker 1: and let him who is without sin cast the first stone.

693
00:29:37,748 --> 00:29:40,108
Speaker 1: He's basically saying, glass houses on you guys. I'm looking

694
00:29:40,148 --> 00:29:42,228
Speaker 1: around at all these coaches in here. You're not exactly

695
00:29:42,228 --> 00:29:44,548
Speaker 1: a bunch of Saints and gms and all that. I

696
00:29:44,628 --> 00:29:46,668
Speaker 1: stole some stuff, you know, you stole some stuff.

697
00:29:46,708 --> 00:29:48,228
Speaker 3: I like this player. I give it a six.

698
00:29:49,148 --> 00:29:50,948
Speaker 6: I'm rocking with five. Who ain't five?

699
00:29:51,028 --> 00:29:51,308
Speaker 5: All right?

700
00:29:51,348 --> 00:29:54,068
Speaker 6: Who ain't five? I know I stole you being here

701
00:29:54,068 --> 00:29:54,468
Speaker 6: at LA.

702
00:29:54,748 --> 00:29:54,948
Speaker 5: I know.

703
00:29:55,028 --> 00:29:57,388
Speaker 6: I stole a postcard of a woman when I was

704
00:29:57,668 --> 00:29:59,148
Speaker 6: like five years old. It's the only thing I've ever

705
00:29:59,148 --> 00:30:01,068
Speaker 6: stole them. Really, Yeah, my mom brings it up all

706
00:30:01,108 --> 00:30:02,788
Speaker 6: the time. It was a it was a postcard of

707
00:30:03,068 --> 00:30:06,668
Speaker 6: a lady in an outfit, and I took it to

708
00:30:06,708 --> 00:30:09,268
Speaker 6: the car. And when I got to the car, she said, uh,

709
00:30:09,428 --> 00:30:11,348
Speaker 6: I know you was not going to steal that. Take

710
00:30:11,388 --> 00:30:12,868
Speaker 6: it right back. So I had to go back and

711
00:30:12,908 --> 00:30:14,548
Speaker 6: return to the place car and.

712
00:30:14,508 --> 00:30:16,868
Speaker 2: Then go back to that she wearing an outfit or

713
00:30:16,868 --> 00:30:18,308
Speaker 2: a swimsuit suit.

714
00:30:19,508 --> 00:30:21,068
Speaker 3: They make him without the outfit.

715
00:30:20,748 --> 00:30:24,148
Speaker 2: Too, That's what he's trying to admit. I'm gonna give

716
00:30:24,188 --> 00:30:26,188
Speaker 2: this afore. All of a sudden, my empathy chip is

717
00:30:26,188 --> 00:30:28,788
Speaker 2: coming into I feel badly telling the stories about these guys.

718
00:30:28,788 --> 00:30:31,948
Speaker 2: So Kat and who ain't stole something? I don't want

719
00:30:31,948 --> 00:30:35,508
Speaker 2: to even answer that question. I appreciate your honesty. Okay,

720
00:30:35,788 --> 00:30:37,628
Speaker 2: go ahead, John, This is good, This is good.

721
00:30:37,988 --> 00:30:39,028
Speaker 3: All right, let's go John.

722
00:30:39,388 --> 00:30:42,228
Speaker 4: Okay, So, last couple of stories about scouting trips. Right,

723
00:30:42,268 --> 00:30:43,748
Speaker 4: you know, you get you go out on the road,

724
00:30:43,948 --> 00:30:46,388
Speaker 4: and you deploy your scouts to all of these schools.

725
00:30:46,388 --> 00:30:50,028
Speaker 4: So one time, myself and Monty Austin for it. I'm

726
00:30:50,028 --> 00:30:52,908
Speaker 4: gonna I'm gonna, I'm gonna give Mantya a little proper here.

727
00:30:52,988 --> 00:30:55,148
Speaker 4: We're at a school. He's a GM. Now at Cardinals,

728
00:30:55,948 --> 00:30:58,148
Speaker 4: we're at a school and the pro liaison there's always

729
00:30:58,188 --> 00:31:01,748
Speaker 4: one dedicated coach that talks about, you know, every player,

730
00:31:02,188 --> 00:31:04,268
Speaker 4: and there was a dB and he was trying to

731
00:31:04,228 --> 00:31:08,548
Speaker 4: talk about the intricacies of their defense and their coverage calls, right,

732
00:31:09,108 --> 00:31:12,948
Speaker 4: and every coach thinks that their offensive or defensive scheme

733
00:31:13,188 --> 00:31:15,468
Speaker 4: is like the matrix, like nobody can fire.

734
00:31:16,188 --> 00:31:17,388
Speaker 5: That's so sophisticated.

735
00:31:17,828 --> 00:31:21,628
Speaker 4: Even though I had an old coach tell me one time, listen,

736
00:31:21,668 --> 00:31:23,948
Speaker 4: coverage wise, it's covered one, two, three, four, and the

737
00:31:23,948 --> 00:31:26,108
Speaker 4: rest of it's just made up, right. So I always

738
00:31:26,108 --> 00:31:27,628
Speaker 4: got to chuckle out of when I heard all these

739
00:31:27,628 --> 00:31:31,028
Speaker 4: intricate calls. So the pro liaison is telling us like, well,

740
00:31:31,028 --> 00:31:33,908
Speaker 4: we've simplified it. We've called it best coverage, so we'll

741
00:31:33,948 --> 00:31:35,908
Speaker 4: call it the front and then we go best coverage.

742
00:31:36,628 --> 00:31:39,268
Speaker 4: So I kind of got a chuckle out of, like,

743
00:31:39,868 --> 00:31:43,708
Speaker 4: you know, them calling it best coverage, because like, all right,

744
00:31:43,708 --> 00:31:44,868
Speaker 4: well here's your.

745
00:31:44,748 --> 00:31:46,148
Speaker 5: Coverage really the best.

746
00:31:47,228 --> 00:31:48,988
Speaker 4: So we take a break from the film and we

747
00:31:49,028 --> 00:31:51,788
Speaker 4: go into you know, the restroom to you know, do

748
00:31:51,908 --> 00:31:56,108
Speaker 4: what you do in the restaurant. I didn't know that

749
00:31:56,348 --> 00:32:02,708
Speaker 4: the actual defensive coordinator was in the stall, the door closes,

750
00:32:03,228 --> 00:32:06,268
Speaker 4: so and I didn't see, you know, great, So yeah,

751
00:32:06,908 --> 00:32:08,708
Speaker 4: I go in there and i'm, you know, kind of

752
00:32:09,068 --> 00:32:10,908
Speaker 4: I think I'm waiting by the sink, and you know,

753
00:32:11,028 --> 00:32:14,228
Speaker 4: Moni's doing what he's doing. And it's like I say

754
00:32:14,308 --> 00:32:15,028
Speaker 4: something like.

755
00:32:15,188 --> 00:32:17,628
Speaker 5: What about the best coverage? There money?

756
00:32:18,188 --> 00:32:22,228
Speaker 4: And the door opened and the coordinator comes out and

757
00:32:22,268 --> 00:32:25,588
Speaker 4: he goes, you boys know about best coverage? Oh no,

758
00:32:26,148 --> 00:32:29,188
Speaker 4: And I was just like, oh, hey, coch Yeah, the

759
00:32:29,588 --> 00:32:31,148
Speaker 4: so and so coach was just telling about it.

760
00:32:31,148 --> 00:32:32,548
Speaker 5: I think it's a great concept.

761
00:32:33,188 --> 00:32:35,228
Speaker 4: So I totally pivot and he goes and so he

762
00:32:35,308 --> 00:32:38,788
Speaker 4: went from like confrontational to like trying to explain it again,

763
00:32:38,868 --> 00:32:41,028
Speaker 4: like well, let me tell you about the US coverage.

764
00:32:41,308 --> 00:32:43,028
Speaker 4: Come by my office and we'll draw it up for you.

765
00:32:43,188 --> 00:32:46,788
Speaker 4: So we got busted, MONI and I did, but we

766
00:32:46,788 --> 00:32:49,508
Speaker 4: were able to kind of backpedal our way out and

767
00:32:49,868 --> 00:32:50,468
Speaker 4: save the day.

768
00:32:50,548 --> 00:32:51,148
Speaker 5: Fantastic.

769
00:32:51,188 --> 00:32:52,388
Speaker 3: What do you guys got at?

770
00:32:52,668 --> 00:32:55,708
Speaker 2: Anytime someone says and then the bathroom door stall closes,

771
00:32:55,908 --> 00:32:58,708
Speaker 2: I'm in on this story, like I had this happened

772
00:32:58,708 --> 00:33:00,708
Speaker 2: to me my own house recently. I was complaining about

773
00:33:00,748 --> 00:33:02,748
Speaker 2: my sister and her husband over heard me ten feet away,

774
00:33:02,788 --> 00:33:05,108
Speaker 2: and I was like, oh crap, there you go. It's

775
00:33:05,108 --> 00:33:07,348
Speaker 2: a terrible situation and sometimes you can't talk your way

776
00:33:07,388 --> 00:33:07,788
Speaker 2: out of it.

777
00:33:07,868 --> 00:33:08,108
Speaker 3: John.

778
00:33:08,148 --> 00:33:09,868
Speaker 2: I respect the fact that you MONI could.

779
00:33:10,548 --> 00:33:11,708
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go with a ten.

780
00:33:11,868 --> 00:33:13,748
Speaker 6: I was gonna call this call of duty because at

781
00:33:13,748 --> 00:33:16,628
Speaker 6: no point in time did this dude wash his hands

782
00:33:18,588 --> 00:33:22,028
Speaker 6: the entire story. He came out explaining, probably using hand

783
00:33:22,068 --> 00:33:25,868
Speaker 6: gestures and probably pointing at you guys, let me tell

784
00:33:25,868 --> 00:33:29,788
Speaker 6: you about the best coverage, ie a dodging like this

785
00:33:29,868 --> 00:33:30,388
Speaker 6: the whole time.

786
00:33:30,908 --> 00:33:31,188
Speaker 5: Dude.

787
00:33:31,188 --> 00:33:33,428
Speaker 1: For sure, I feel like, first of all, that coach

788
00:33:33,508 --> 00:33:35,388
Speaker 1: knew you guys were in there. He pulled his little

789
00:33:35,428 --> 00:33:37,628
Speaker 1: feet up so you couldn't see anything. And I feel

790
00:33:37,628 --> 00:33:39,068
Speaker 1: like you're just teeing off on.

791
00:33:39,068 --> 00:33:41,948
Speaker 3: Best coverage and you just heard shy flush.

792
00:33:42,028 --> 00:33:45,308
Speaker 1: Oh no, I have it as a nine. Nice, it's efensive.

793
00:33:45,668 --> 00:33:48,388
Speaker 1: Best stories transport you. I can see this.

794
00:33:48,348 --> 00:33:50,948
Speaker 3: Bathroom, I can smell this bathroom. I feel like I'm

795
00:33:50,988 --> 00:33:52,068
Speaker 3: in this bathroom with you.

796
00:33:52,228 --> 00:33:54,268
Speaker 1: The only thing that makes it not a ten is

797
00:33:54,308 --> 00:33:57,268
Speaker 1: if you had a nervous reaction and gone for the handshake. Hey, coach,

798
00:33:57,268 --> 00:33:59,748
Speaker 1: how you doing, And then it's just completely more disgusting.

799
00:33:59,948 --> 00:34:02,028
Speaker 1: So I'll keep it down at a nine. That's a

800
00:34:02,028 --> 00:34:03,988
Speaker 1: tough act to follow. We got the last one, now, yeah,

801
00:34:04,028 --> 00:34:04,388
Speaker 1: last one.

802
00:34:04,508 --> 00:34:04,828
Speaker 3: Let's go.

803
00:34:05,428 --> 00:34:08,348
Speaker 4: So I'm at I'm at uh where I'm by myself

804
00:34:08,388 --> 00:34:10,348
Speaker 4: at Kansas. And as a scout, you usually, you know,

805
00:34:10,388 --> 00:34:12,148
Speaker 4: you try to do some things for the coaches. You

806
00:34:12,188 --> 00:34:14,428
Speaker 4: stop and get bagels, you stop and get donuts, you

807
00:34:14,428 --> 00:34:16,548
Speaker 4: know something. But in the month, I mean, it's long hours, right.

808
00:34:16,668 --> 00:34:21,948
Speaker 4: So I'm at I'm at Kansas, and I take a break.

809
00:34:22,028 --> 00:34:23,628
Speaker 4: I'm going in to get some coffee, and you put

810
00:34:23,668 --> 00:34:25,628
Speaker 4: it all in there by the coffee and and Mark

811
00:34:25,668 --> 00:34:30,028
Speaker 4: Mangino was the head coach at time, and and and

812
00:34:30,108 --> 00:34:34,988
Speaker 4: Mark Mark Mark Bark big man now and uh, he

813
00:34:35,108 --> 00:34:37,668
Speaker 4: was a he was a great guy on school calls.

814
00:34:38,868 --> 00:34:41,188
Speaker 4: So I walk in the coffee room and to get

815
00:34:41,228 --> 00:34:44,388
Speaker 4: a cup of coffee, and I see coach Mangino. But

816
00:34:44,428 --> 00:34:46,748
Speaker 4: he's got his back to me, and he's got on

817
00:34:46,788 --> 00:34:50,508
Speaker 4: this like black fleece and he kind of looks like

818
00:34:50,908 --> 00:34:53,988
Speaker 4: a bear cub standing there, you know, kind of covering

819
00:34:54,068 --> 00:34:58,428
Speaker 4: up you know, most of the counter. And I say, hey, hey, coach,

820
00:34:58,828 --> 00:35:01,228
Speaker 4: how you doing? And he kind of looks over his

821
00:35:01,228 --> 00:35:04,988
Speaker 4: shoulder and he goes hey, and he turns around and

822
00:35:05,028 --> 00:35:07,548
Speaker 4: he's got two pies and he won a me chand

823
00:35:08,108 --> 00:35:08,668
Speaker 4: and he's.

824
00:35:08,588 --> 00:35:13,948
Speaker 5: Like, you want somebody's pies. I was like, Coach, I'm

825
00:35:14,068 --> 00:35:16,508
Speaker 5: I'm good, I'm good on pie. Appreciate it.

826
00:35:16,548 --> 00:35:19,788
Speaker 4: But all I could think about was this big man

827
00:35:19,948 --> 00:35:24,828
Speaker 4: looks like a bear and ironically, like Yogi did stole pies.

828
00:35:26,548 --> 00:35:28,468
Speaker 3: With two pies. It's incredible.

829
00:35:28,588 --> 00:35:31,748
Speaker 1: And there picking the basket rock Chuck jay Hawk. Go ahead,

830
00:35:31,748 --> 00:35:34,268
Speaker 1: you guys, Oh my gosh, there's a picture of that.

831
00:35:34,468 --> 00:35:36,748
Speaker 2: Dang. I just spit out of my mouth. And you

832
00:35:36,788 --> 00:35:39,068
Speaker 2: said turn around. I was like, on the edge, you

833
00:35:39,068 --> 00:35:41,668
Speaker 2: know what, screw it? Tell me give it that a ten. Yep,

834
00:35:41,708 --> 00:35:44,028
Speaker 2: I'm giving it a ten again. I'm going second ten

835
00:35:44,108 --> 00:35:46,708
Speaker 2: from the day. I was like, either he's gonna turn

836
00:35:46,748 --> 00:35:48,708
Speaker 2: around and doesn't have a shirt on under the sleeve

837
00:35:48,828 --> 00:35:51,068
Speaker 2: or something else is happening. What is he holding at

838
00:35:51,068 --> 00:35:53,028
Speaker 2: the coffee counter? That one had me on the edge

839
00:35:53,028 --> 00:35:54,348
Speaker 2: of my seat. That's a ten for me.

840
00:35:54,548 --> 00:35:57,708
Speaker 6: I'm breaking to eight because I don't know where Coach

841
00:35:57,868 --> 00:36:00,468
Speaker 6: was going with these pies, Like where was he going?

842
00:36:00,508 --> 00:36:02,028
Speaker 6: The fact that he had these pies, like he was

843
00:36:02,028 --> 00:36:04,508
Speaker 6: going to smuggle these things out of the spot like that.

844
00:36:04,508 --> 00:36:05,788
Speaker 2: To a good point. And you know what else. I

845
00:36:05,828 --> 00:36:08,068
Speaker 2: bet if John had said yes, I will take one,

846
00:36:08,108 --> 00:36:11,108
Speaker 2: I bet he would have been pissed. So John, you know,

847
00:36:11,428 --> 00:36:14,228
Speaker 2: he was off offering out being social, not out of love.

848
00:36:15,348 --> 00:36:19,228
Speaker 1: I'm always most amused by the inner makings of this show.

849
00:36:19,548 --> 00:36:22,108
Speaker 1: This whole segment's been pretty The focus has been on you,

850
00:36:22,228 --> 00:36:24,988
Speaker 1: and it's been spartan in the production elements. You hadn't

851
00:36:25,028 --> 00:36:28,148
Speaker 1: even said Mark Mangino for a millisecond. There's fifty pictures

852
00:36:28,148 --> 00:36:31,428
Speaker 1: of him just jumping up here, like obviously someone was

853
00:36:31,468 --> 00:36:33,428
Speaker 1: doing the hunting for the Mangino pictures.

854
00:36:33,108 --> 00:36:35,108
Speaker 3: Like, oh, I this one, this one, we get it.

855
00:36:35,188 --> 00:36:38,388
Speaker 1: Yes, he was a typical body type. Yes, we had

856
00:36:38,428 --> 00:36:40,828
Speaker 1: fifty pictures of him. I will give this a five,

857
00:36:41,028 --> 00:36:43,548
Speaker 1: just right down the middle to end it. Mangino was

858
00:36:43,668 --> 00:36:46,068
Speaker 1: running things in Laurence, Kansas for a while, and he

859
00:36:46,148 --> 00:36:48,188
Speaker 1: was at the Jayhawks just doing stuff.

860
00:36:48,188 --> 00:36:50,108
Speaker 3: He had great pros. I loved him.

861
00:36:50,148 --> 00:36:52,228
Speaker 1: I loved watching him, and I loved the story about

862
00:36:52,228 --> 00:36:54,148
Speaker 1: the pies. Any idea what the flavor of the pie was?

863
00:36:54,268 --> 00:36:57,868
Speaker 4: I had no idea. They were a heavy meringue. Oh yeah,

864
00:36:57,908 --> 00:37:00,948
Speaker 4: a lot of them one and the other one had

865
00:37:00,988 --> 00:37:03,108
Speaker 4: that you know, buttery Christ.

866
00:37:05,308 --> 00:37:07,188
Speaker 3: So do we have combined scores with scores?

867
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Speaker 2: Bring them up? Oh? Combined?

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Speaker 3: Okay, here we go. Awkward Awkward restroom is a twenty nine.

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Speaker 3: What do you think Jonathan scores?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I don't know. I don't even think that.

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Speaker 5: That doesn't even get me in the finals. But it

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Speaker 5: was fun telling them.

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Speaker 4: It's fun to liver level stories about the things that

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Speaker 4: I did in my career.

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Speaker 3: Tell you it gets to fifty.

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Speaker 1: Those aviators start your engines at home. Look at j

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Speaker 1: Rob on the left with the beard and the aviators.

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Speaker 5: That's right, Ice man, I am j hard out.

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Speaker 3: You can be minding a man anytime.

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Speaker 5: John.

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Speaker 6: Let's go