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<v Speaker 1>I woke up Invaigon and then's just chasing dreams in

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<v Speaker 1>my statement got me feel like I'm made it, and

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<v Speaker 1>I wake up and see frustration raising for Raymon. Thankfully

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<v Speaker 1>they know me can get enough of a paper get on.

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<v Speaker 2>My fun by someone much that if you put it

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<v Speaker 2>ame ma, I'm on one. And if you get a time,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm mont forgot when I'm a pleasing behavior and.

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<v Speaker 3>We're all friend.

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<v Speaker 4>Hey, guys, welcome back to Good Mom's Bad Choices. I'm

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<v Speaker 4>Erica and this is Nila and we are joined today

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<v Speaker 4>by a very special guest, Nisia Boswell.

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<v Speaker 5>She is actually why don't we Why don't you tell

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<v Speaker 5>us who you are?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay? Hi? Everyone, name for bab Blow and I am

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<v Speaker 3>the creator of Black Mom's Blood. When we talk parents

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<v Speaker 3>and culture and lifestyle, call a black point of you.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, and we we at Good Moms. We are huge

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<v Speaker 4>fans of Shanisia. If you haven't followed her, make sure

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<v Speaker 4>to follow her at Good Mom's Black Good Moms at

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<v Speaker 4>Black Mom's Blood. And we just wanted to We wanted

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<v Speaker 4>to have you on because we've been watching your your

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<v Speaker 4>social media and you you just it's you have a

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<v Speaker 4>platform where like I think a lot of women. I

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<v Speaker 4>think that's why you have so many followers. They just

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<v Speaker 4>gravitate towards your page because there's so much there's so

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<v Speaker 4>much representation of things that we don't get to see

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<v Speaker 4>all the time in the media, like just black love,

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<v Speaker 4>black black breastfeeding. You know it is Black Breastfeeding Week

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<v Speaker 4>this week, and just positive black images of mothers, whether

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<v Speaker 4>they're single or in relationships. There's there's not necessarily one platform,

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<v Speaker 4>per se. I think there are now they're popping up

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<v Speaker 4>more and more where where women of color can really

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<v Speaker 4>go and feel represented.

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<v Speaker 5>So so thank you for that.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you, And that's really where it came from. When

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<v Speaker 3>I when I entered into this blogging world. Back then,

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<v Speaker 3>there weren't a lot of us doing this, and so

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<v Speaker 3>I kind of consider myself on a catalyst that made

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<v Speaker 3>it more normal, and so I just wanted to see

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<v Speaker 3>that in the block Inspritch. I want to see more

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<v Speaker 3>Black women that felt comfortable talking.

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<v Speaker 5>About parenthood exactly.

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<v Speaker 4>So can you just tell us a little like where

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<v Speaker 4>are you from? I know you live in Atlanta right now.

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<v Speaker 4>Are you from Atlanta or how did you get there?

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<v Speaker 3>Are you? Like? What's your story?

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<v Speaker 5>What's your story, girl?

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<v Speaker 3>What's my story? My story is I've lived in Atlanta

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<v Speaker 3>now for almost ten years, eleven years somewhere in the area.

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<v Speaker 3>I will up here to go to Georgia State University.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm from Mona Robbins, very small town down south, and

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<v Speaker 3>like I always say, you know went, I came up

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<v Speaker 3>to the school and I looked around and felt like

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<v Speaker 3>all of my peers just kind of like they knew

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<v Speaker 3>what they were going to do, and I had no idea,

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<v Speaker 3>and so I kind of felt like stumbling weed was

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<v Speaker 3>trying to figure out my way. I became a mom

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<v Speaker 3>pretty early on. Amongst all of my friends, I was

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<v Speaker 3>pretty much the first one I have a baby, and

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<v Speaker 3>I just felt so isolated in that apparently at that

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<v Speaker 3>time because our generation, we're just not really having kids anymore.

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<v Speaker 3>And then so when I became a mother and I

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<v Speaker 3>started to get comfortable in that role, I realized that

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't really also didn't fit that normal you know

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<v Speaker 3>mom that just oh, I come home and I family, family, family,

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<v Speaker 3>and my baby. I was like, I'm young, I'm a millennial.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like I have a good time. How do

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<v Speaker 3>I find a way to reach out for more moms

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<v Speaker 3>to fall into the category that I'm in. So that's

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<v Speaker 3>a little bit of the background of Live Black Mom's

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<v Speaker 3>blog is what it is. It's not. I just wanted

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<v Speaker 3>to make a comfortable space for the moms who don't

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<v Speaker 3>fit that norm.

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<v Speaker 4>Did you when you started it, did you want Did

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<v Speaker 4>you always imagine it being as big as it is

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<v Speaker 4>or was it just kind of like an a little

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<v Speaker 4>passion project or just your outlet.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like it's so funny because I really don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't I don't want to limit myself and say, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>I never saw it getting big. I'm a strong believer

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<v Speaker 3>and in my own safface, so I was like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>if I do this, it's probably gonna be okay. But

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't really pursue it for that reason, I guess

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<v Speaker 3>the small way to put it. I didn't pursue it

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<v Speaker 3>from the beginning, like, oh, I'm doing this so that

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<v Speaker 3>it turns into the huge platform. And I feel that

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<v Speaker 3>because it did come from a place of passion, people

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<v Speaker 3>really connected with the genuineness behind it, and that's why

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<v Speaker 3>Dick gets so big.

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<v Speaker 6>How old were you when you had your you have

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<v Speaker 6>a daughter or son?

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<v Speaker 3>I have a daughter, she's five years old.

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<v Speaker 6>How old were you when you had her?

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<v Speaker 3>I got pregnant twenty two. I had her when I

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<v Speaker 3>was twenty third set.

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<v Speaker 6>And then when did you start Black Mom's blog?

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<v Speaker 3>I so most it was actually in my second business.

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<v Speaker 3>So when she was one, I started a skincare line

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<v Speaker 3>and I ran that for about two and a half years.

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<v Speaker 3>I started Black Month's blog when she was three.

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<v Speaker 6>Cool are you single?

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<v Speaker 3>Are you married? Dating? I am so single? Girl me,

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<v Speaker 3>I've been in a relationship for two years.

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<v Speaker 4>How do you What is dating like for you? Because

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<v Speaker 4>I'm I'm sort of new to dating.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, I'm a year in and it's been interesting.

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<v Speaker 5>It's fun at first. Then it's like.

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<v Speaker 3>Dating is definitely interesting when you're a mother because the

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<v Speaker 3>one that times some strain is different, you know, And

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<v Speaker 3>when you're single and you don't have kids, you can

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<v Speaker 3>just kind of get up and go and give a

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<v Speaker 3>lot more flexibility to it. And it just depends on

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<v Speaker 3>what type of dating you're doing, because as a parent,

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<v Speaker 3>sometimes seem like to be dating have a good time

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<v Speaker 3>and that's perfectly okay, and sometimes you're dating for something

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<v Speaker 3>more serious. And so I found out like when I

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<v Speaker 3>was kind of in my good time. Maybe when I

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<v Speaker 3>wasn't really looking for anything serious, it was cool, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I just like I have London Street, what you guys

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<v Speaker 3>going on? But that was the only day. And so

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<v Speaker 3>when I started to get in a mindset of saying

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<v Speaker 3>things are a little bit more serious, my daughter came

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<v Speaker 3>to fight. So that was something I was there in front. Hey,

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<v Speaker 3>you know my mom, right, do you have a problem

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<v Speaker 3>with that or kids? So to me to change the

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<v Speaker 3>dynamics of the men that I chose to surround myself with,

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<v Speaker 3>because now that I'm in that elemental space and saying

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<v Speaker 3>I'm looking for something more serious, I'm way more selective

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<v Speaker 3>about luck bringing my energy for sure.

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<v Speaker 5>What's what's the dating scene like in Atlanta?

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<v Speaker 3>What is it like us? Maybe not if I'd discouraging Atlanta.

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<v Speaker 3>Dating in Atlanta is interesting because the men here, there's

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<v Speaker 3>so many people, there's so many tea and we're kind

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<v Speaker 3>of like in this space where every man wants to

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<v Speaker 3>be Polly and they just believe they should have all

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<v Speaker 3>their cake needed to. Really, yes, I don't.

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<v Speaker 6>I don't even know if I've ever heard of black

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<v Speaker 6>men say Polly.

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<v Speaker 3>Girl. Atlanta is the hotel capital and it has went

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<v Speaker 3>past the whole tep men and his women to the

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<v Speaker 3>regular corporate man. It's one into the credative men. Nobody

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<v Speaker 3>wants to get married. Everybody's trying to figure out their life,

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<v Speaker 3>and so dating here is really hard because it's such

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<v Speaker 3>an entrepreneurial, creative city. You're not getting there. There aren't

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of traditional men here, and there's so many

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<v Speaker 3>women right right, And there's so many beautiful women. Atlanta.

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<v Speaker 3>It's full of beautiful women, successful Black women. So it's

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<v Speaker 3>not one of those places where it's like, oh, you're

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<v Speaker 3>the queen of the crop and everybody's trying to get

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<v Speaker 3>with you. It's pretty much the opposite. Then here have

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<v Speaker 3>their share picks and yeah, it's not the easiest to

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<v Speaker 3>be cadated.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that's so interesting because that's like the word pollie.

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<v Speaker 4>I feel like it's such a foreign idea to so many,

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<v Speaker 4>at least I thought so.

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<v Speaker 5>Many Black maybe men, maybe not women, but to men.

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<v Speaker 6>I feel like, well, I just remember when she said

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<v Speaker 6>the whole hotel thing.

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<v Speaker 7>That is true there there is like there is like

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<v Speaker 7>a I used to live in the West End and

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<v Speaker 7>there is like a very villagey black hippie like community

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<v Speaker 7>in Atlanta, Like it's beautiful, but yeah, I could see that,

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<v Speaker 7>like be my my my second wife's sister.

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<v Speaker 3>I can't even pay my rent? Right, Like, uh noa

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<v Speaker 3>not happening.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm down for being a survived got three to the

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<v Speaker 7>guys who it's literally every man wants three girlfriends or

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<v Speaker 7>three wives?

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<v Speaker 3>Like how play? You don't even want situation out of control?

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<v Speaker 7>Right, they've they've missed construed the like the basics, the

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<v Speaker 7>fundamentals of the Polly relationship.

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<v Speaker 6>Right, you got to take care of all of them

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<v Speaker 6>in the village?

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<v Speaker 7>Would you be would you if you found like a man,

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<v Speaker 7>like an eligible man that was like had his ship

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<v Speaker 7>together and could like financially and emotionally support multiple vibes?

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<v Speaker 5>How would you?

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<v Speaker 6>Would you be down for it all?

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<v Speaker 3>I'll answer that question by saying that I haven't found

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<v Speaker 3>a man who's.

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<v Speaker 7>Right, you showed me him, and I'll give you an answer, right, right,

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<v Speaker 7>that's the truth.

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<v Speaker 6>And like, do you co parent with your daughter's dad?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah? Actually I co parent with my daughter's father. We

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<v Speaker 3>live in the same apartment building.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh cool, Yeah we have Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>We have a really good parenting relationship.

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<v Speaker 5>He I mean you're not.

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<v Speaker 4>It's not weird, Like, isn't too close. He knows how

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<v Speaker 4>he knows what you're doing all the time.

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<v Speaker 7>Like or is it like a huge apartment building. He's

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<v Speaker 7>on the other side of it.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a high rise. He lives in a pretty big building.

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<v Speaker 3>So I'm on the fourth floor. He's on the eleventh floor. Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>And yeah, everybody, whenever I talked about that, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I have the blogs, but I try to keep a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of my personal things out of it. I'm getting

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<v Speaker 3>to the place now where I can feel a little

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<v Speaker 3>bit more comfortable and talking about it. But yeah, everybody

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<v Speaker 3>gives the same reaction. They're like what, and of course

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<v Speaker 3>they want to know there's still somethings going you know,

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<v Speaker 3>right right right, Yeah, it's the thing. It's cool.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, it's convenient, Like I wanted the store. Okay,

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<v Speaker 6>I'll bear it back. Yeah, come on, that.

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<v Speaker 3>Was funny because that that's the ideal standpoint, and it's

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<v Speaker 3>getting better in that sense. But it wasn't always that way.

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<v Speaker 6>So so it's taking time to get to get to

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<v Speaker 6>this place.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, did you guys move in there on like intentionally

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<v Speaker 4>because it's got a lot to be getting easier, or.

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<v Speaker 3>So it has been. We've listed in this building, and

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<v Speaker 3>when we were together and when we broke up, I

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<v Speaker 3>ended up leaving. People say here, but it's been a

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<v Speaker 3>very convenient part of Atlanta's living to town and it's

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<v Speaker 3>you know, good area. I don't drive either. I have

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<v Speaker 3>lived in Atlanta for ten years and I don't drive.

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<v Speaker 3>And so when I got ready to find a place

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<v Speaker 3>to move back to, I was like going back to

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<v Speaker 3>my old building. I did not care to use here.

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<v Speaker 3>Did not start off like this intentional, like let's be

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<v Speaker 3>great co parents to stay in the same faith, but

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<v Speaker 3>I did consider that. I was like, well, this gonna

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<v Speaker 3>makes me a little bit more convenient and easier when

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<v Speaker 3>it comes to parenting our daughter.

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<v Speaker 7>Have you ever like seen him in the lobby bringing

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<v Speaker 7>up a girl girl?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh? Yeah? When so when it's been two years since

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<v Speaker 3>we've been broken up. He has been in another relationship

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<v Speaker 3>at this point for about a year and a half.

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<v Speaker 3>And you said it's been two years since you guys

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<v Speaker 3>broke up. Yeah, we've been broken up for two years, Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>and he has a new girlfriend. She's been around for

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<v Speaker 3>about a year and a half. We actually just hung

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<v Speaker 3>out about a month ter three weeks ago, it took

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<v Speaker 3>her her She came with me and my daughter to

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<v Speaker 3>the park. So it's saying that that has not always

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<v Speaker 3>been easy to the building. There were definitely some stressful

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<v Speaker 3>times going on. I was him with other women and

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<v Speaker 3>he was still you know, it was just interesting. So

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<v Speaker 3>once we kind of established that being really over and

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<v Speaker 3>this was it, it became easier, you know what I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>and handling some things. But yeah, I've bran into him

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<v Speaker 3>with women and I you know, yeah.

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<v Speaker 7>Damn you do you think that do you think that

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<v Speaker 7>like that reality has made it easier for you to

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<v Speaker 7>like move on because we always well I always talk

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<v Speaker 7>about like even if you know something's over, once you

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<v Speaker 7>have a child with somebody likes as women, there's like

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<v Speaker 7>we're in we're like in bread to have.

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<v Speaker 6>This like responsibly.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, like we're supposed to get married and have this

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<v Speaker 7>white picket fence like lifestyle. So like, even when you

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<v Speaker 7>know you don't like this guy, you're like, no, it

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<v Speaker 7>may work.

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<v Speaker 5>So what will you hold on to this?

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<v Speaker 3>You hold this like this idea, tiny little.

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<v Speaker 5>Part of this idea.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, I definitely agree to be there. My relationship

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<v Speaker 3>with my ex was not the greatest. It looked really

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<v Speaker 3>pretty on pape for everybody was like, oh yeah, I'll

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<v Speaker 3>go hold the technal idea. And I don't say that

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<v Speaker 3>as a way of bashing him. We were just young

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<v Speaker 3>and we didn't communicate well, and we were we really

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<v Speaker 3>were trying to do the right thing and raising our daughter.

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<v Speaker 3>But it's kind of like, just like you said, you

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<v Speaker 3>can know you don't want to be with somebody, and

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<v Speaker 3>because they are the father of your child, so like

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<v Speaker 3>you have the duty to make it work. And for me.

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<v Speaker 8>What ended up really just divering the course. I got

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<v Speaker 8>to this point with it where it was.

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<v Speaker 3>Like I want to have a peaceful light, and I

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<v Speaker 3>found myself, you know, just very stressed out over things

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<v Speaker 3>that were going on between us. And so one day

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<v Speaker 3>I was just like, this is it. All we're going

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<v Speaker 3>to focus on is co parenting. We have to get

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<v Speaker 3>along for our daughter. And that was way more important

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<v Speaker 3>to me than trying to figure out our situation, because

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<v Speaker 3>it was clear that there was no situation, and being

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<v Speaker 3>in the same space and having interacts with him and

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<v Speaker 3>things that occurred during that time really spurn up it

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<v Speaker 3>for me. So once I let that go, it wasn't

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<v Speaker 3>for him, and it looks for myself. I felt myself

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<v Speaker 3>feeling angry and I'm allowed to make this perfect. Don't

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<v Speaker 3>care like, let me I can get peace of mind.

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<v Speaker 3>And at that point I was able to see him

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<v Speaker 3>away with him and whoever.

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<v Speaker 7>Was right, and you know, yeah, that's I guess it's

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<v Speaker 7>like everybody's I mean everybody.

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<v Speaker 6>So sometimes people hold onto ship, but I think like

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<v Speaker 6>the New Error Woman is more.

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<v Speaker 7>Like in tune with the fact that you know it

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<v Speaker 7>doesn't really matter. Your happiness comes first. So that's right,

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<v Speaker 7>that's most important because you can't be happy and raise

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<v Speaker 7>a you can't be unhappy and bitter and raise a

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<v Speaker 7>happy child because that child is going to sense that

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<v Speaker 7>you know they are and to forgive.

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<v Speaker 3>It's never about the other person, It's about you, right

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<v Speaker 3>if I don't forgive you and I nay, well, right,

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<v Speaker 3>person started to look at your baby, daddy, and you

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<v Speaker 3>know your kids call do you want to call that person?

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<v Speaker 3>And who they are and taking their their reactions so

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<v Speaker 3>personally and it's like this is the person. It helps

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<v Speaker 3>you here looking a little bit better.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, yeah, yeah, I think that's something we've definitely talked about,

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<v Speaker 4>for sure, like not taking things personally and just understanding

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<v Speaker 4>that a lot of the reasons that maybe it didn't

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<v Speaker 4>work out between you two, or me and my baby

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<v Speaker 4>daddy or Mila and hers, it really has nothing. I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>of course we all play our part, but at the

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<v Speaker 4>end of the day, you don't have.

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<v Speaker 6>Nothing to do with you.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, a lot of a lot of the mistakes that

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<v Speaker 4>were made maybe on that you feel like he or

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<v Speaker 4>she did, you know, it has a lot to do

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<v Speaker 4>with them and not try not to but try not

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<v Speaker 4>to take things personally is so hard.

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<v Speaker 3>And people like, oh my god, you got you're so

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<v Speaker 3>greating up. I was like, what it looks like.

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<v Speaker 6>Now right because it took time to get.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we still have our moments, so I'm it's like

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<v Speaker 3>I can't say it, you know, every day it's a

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<v Speaker 3>possis Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>That and it's a paired with expectation, which I feel like,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, when you have a kid, your expectations just

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<v Speaker 4>automatically change and you feel like, you know, you want

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<v Speaker 4>to protect your child from anything anything you feel like

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<v Speaker 4>it's not right, or you don't want them to experience,

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<v Speaker 4>or you don't want them to see, or you feel

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<v Speaker 4>like your partner isn't doing you know, it's just like

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<v Speaker 4>ooh girl, I'm I'm working through both those things right

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<v Speaker 4>now and I can't wait to be on the other

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<v Speaker 4>side of it.

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<v Speaker 5>I can't wait.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a beautiful place to be. Let me tell you

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<v Speaker 3>at peace.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah yeah, So did you when you had your daughter?

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<v Speaker 5>Did you have a natural birth?

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<v Speaker 1>Home?

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<v Speaker 3>Birth?

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<v Speaker 5>Hospital? What was your what was your birthing experience?

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<v Speaker 3>I had a natural birth in a hospital. It was

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<v Speaker 3>supposed to be a water birth. I've never crossed the park,

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<v Speaker 3>so I sure without me every dural medication, and that

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<v Speaker 3>was like the real goal. It was something I wanted

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<v Speaker 3>to accomplish. I didn't get called up on it. I

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<v Speaker 3>was like, hey, what happens. Happened, But that's what I

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<v Speaker 3>was aiming for and I was able to accomplish that.

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<v Speaker 5>That's awesome. How many hours of labor are you in?

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<v Speaker 3>My labor was like still technicook and perfect, like I would.

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<v Speaker 3>I had a pool twenty four hour labor. I went

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<v Speaker 3>into labor at I probably wit what's my mother's house

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<v Speaker 3>to live about two and a half hours pounce of here,

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<v Speaker 3>and I was.

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<v Speaker 8>Like, I'm tired of getting pregnant.

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<v Speaker 3>I was thirty eight weeks fun and we went to

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<v Speaker 3>the fair and I walked for about two and a

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<v Speaker 3>half hours. I went into labor the next day around

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<v Speaker 3>ten o'clock at night, and I had her. She's sixteen

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<v Speaker 3>the next morning.

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<v Speaker 5>Oho, that's pretty perfect. M h, what's your when's what's

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<v Speaker 5>your sign?

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<v Speaker 7>Just because I because, ah, yeah, we got this a

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<v Speaker 7>cancer and a scorpio here, so we got all the

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<v Speaker 7>water signs in his hour A.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah we like you. What's your sign? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 6>I have like the multiple best friends scorpios anti sis.

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<v Speaker 3>What was gonna ask you?

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<v Speaker 5>Do you want more kids?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah? I definitely want more children.

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<v Speaker 5>How many like one to ten I would like to have.

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<v Speaker 3>Realistically, I mean, if if I can handle it, we

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<v Speaker 3>have exalting but children.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean you are posting the cutest babies all day.

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<v Speaker 4>I wrong, like your ovaries must be like exploding.

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<v Speaker 3>Pain though, because I have baby fever. But I'm not

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<v Speaker 3>going to have another baby, right? This is it? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 7>I was gonna ask you, Okay, so how do you

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<v Speaker 7>balance being like a full time mom and business woman?

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<v Speaker 3>You have help?

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<v Speaker 5>Like is your daughter she's obviously has in school, so

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<v Speaker 5>got home school?

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<v Speaker 3>Now, Cameron was so I would stay at home mom

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<v Speaker 3>for a couple of years. She didn't start really going

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<v Speaker 3>to school because she was about three four years old.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't have any family in Atlanta. My house father,

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<v Speaker 3>he doesn't really have family in Atlanta like that. That

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<v Speaker 3>helps out, and so I was able the only one.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm able to move the way that I'm moving because

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<v Speaker 3>I have this course around me that is phenomenal, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>And I always tell moms that when you become a mother,

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<v Speaker 3>you have to change up your circle because if you're

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<v Speaker 3>only just being around your single friends with that party mindset,

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<v Speaker 3>then you're gonna struggle, right. So I wanted to develop

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<v Speaker 3>these circles of women and even fill some of my

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<v Speaker 3>best friends who don't have that circle as well. But

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<v Speaker 3>when I have a vis and things like Cameron, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>my friends come out. She got just what they were

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<v Speaker 3>one her aunties. With her starting school, that's definitely been

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<v Speaker 3>a blessing because I have my day time for me

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<v Speaker 3>to do think I need to do. And her father

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<v Speaker 3>and I have a pretty arrangement.

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<v Speaker 9>Where I have like.

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<v Speaker 3>Dad, so I have you know, the whole day.

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<v Speaker 1>That was.

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<v Speaker 9>How I wouldn't need to day and I have time.

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm like you have five days a week, six

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<v Speaker 3>days yourself to do that. It's time for me to

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<v Speaker 3>have some time alone so that I can confer formal

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<v Speaker 3>connection with somebody else.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, hell yeah, that's only fair.

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<v Speaker 7>And girl, I absolutely commend you from like being cool

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<v Speaker 7>and being able to go to the park with her,

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<v Speaker 7>because I don't know if I could do it. I mean,

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<v Speaker 7>like I understand being mature and wanting to know the

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<v Speaker 7>person that's around your your child. You know, that's important,

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<v Speaker 7>Like I need to know who you are as a person.

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<v Speaker 7>So I get that, but like it does take like

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<v Speaker 7>a big part of like, you know, it.

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<v Speaker 4>Also plays a part in what the what the approach

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<v Speaker 4>of what the woman's approaches to you too. If she

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<v Speaker 4>comes at you respectfully, and you know, you might you

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<v Speaker 4>might change your mind. If she's crazy, then you'll.

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<v Speaker 3>Be like bitch, right but right, But if I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>it was definitely a thing somebody that we knew what

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, it was awkward.

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<v Speaker 6>Wait, so it was like kind of like a mtual friend,

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<v Speaker 6>not a natal friend, but.

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<v Speaker 3>Somebody kind of knew who was around.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, probably was around, and that's talk there. But the

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<v Speaker 9>reality of it, I didn't want to do any more anymore.

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<v Speaker 3>And kind of that.

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<v Speaker 6>All the other extras are just extras.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, and look at the other person. She's not

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<v Speaker 3>a bad person, Like, actually, she's not a bad woman.

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<v Speaker 3>And when I really kind of step back to look

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<v Speaker 3>at it, because the thing is my daughter, my daughter's father,

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<v Speaker 3>I need him always to be the greatest things for

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<v Speaker 3>me because she's my daughter's father, right, And it was

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<v Speaker 3>something I had to realize about myself. I was like,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not going to be able to be a woman

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<v Speaker 3>for him and she kind of it is like that

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<v Speaker 3>takes a life at mittad, but they worked well together, right,

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<v Speaker 3>And so when I had to when I kind of

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<v Speaker 3>got step into space, I realized that a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>times women we find fault in each other instead of

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<v Speaker 3>looking at that man and saying, it's ain't even about you.

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<v Speaker 3>And so once I had a basket up praise with her,

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, I don't have any issues with her,

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<v Speaker 3>and it might be going to stop him from dating her.

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<v Speaker 3>She at some point will possibly be around my child.

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<v Speaker 3>And it was important for me to let Cameron see

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<v Speaker 3>me introduced her to her so that she wouldn't feel

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<v Speaker 3>like she had to be put defensive of her mother,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, She's a very protective of us, and so

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<v Speaker 3>if Daddy would have done it, she would have felt like,

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<v Speaker 3>I need to be in this position to defend mommy.

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<v Speaker 3>Let some want to know that mommy is mommy and

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<v Speaker 3>I needed her, needing me and her together to know

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<v Speaker 3>it's okay, you're right. Mm hmm.

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<v Speaker 5>That's big of you. I mean right now, no, like what.

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<v Speaker 3>No?

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, First of all, face is not always but I'm thinking,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm just thinking. I'm just I'm just trying to visualize

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<v Speaker 4>my future in that way and how like well, I

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<v Speaker 4>also I just so basically, the my my baby dies,

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<v Speaker 4>the reason we're not together is because he cheated on

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<v Speaker 4>me profusely. The women that he cheated on me with

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<v Speaker 4>were terrible people. So I just think about like him,

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<v Speaker 4>the type of women that he'll date in the future.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm like, what kind of woman is he going to

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<v Speaker 4>bring around my kid? I'm like, can I Maybe it'll change,

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<v Speaker 4>maybe like he'll have some like aha moment and he'll

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<v Speaker 4>date like a really like smart, well put together, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>well spoken, respectful person.

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<v Speaker 5>But I pray to God that that happens and that

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<v Speaker 5>we can go to the park.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean that.

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<v Speaker 3>I will say in how you had your relationship with training.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm change is a lot. You know, we had to

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<v Speaker 3>have issues with cheating, so I can imagine like he

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<v Speaker 3>had issues and cheating and then he ended up person.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know if I could be this amicable because

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<v Speaker 3>that wasn't the issue. We had other issues that did

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<v Speaker 3>not involve other people, right right. I think I wasn't

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<v Speaker 3>involved in nominationship to started after me and him broke up,

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<v Speaker 3>so I all those things taken into consideration place he

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<v Speaker 3>was a part of how I'm able to do this.

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<v Speaker 3>If he would cheating on me and all this stuff

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<v Speaker 3>was going on, I could not. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 3>I could be this easy about it.

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<v Speaker 7>I am so like, I'm so happy that you are

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<v Speaker 7>open enough to like share that because you know, I

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<v Speaker 7>I just think, especially in the black community, it's not

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<v Speaker 7>something we see that often or hear about that often,

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<v Speaker 7>and it's important because I agree. I think it's important.

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<v Speaker 7>I think, like, if you want to date me, you're

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<v Speaker 7>gonna be basically family with my babies, and I don't

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<v Speaker 7>like them that much, you know, like if you want

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<v Speaker 7>to eventually have kids together, like, well, this is gonna

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<v Speaker 7>be your brother in law. Like low key because it's

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<v Speaker 7>a it should be a family dynamic, and I think

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<v Speaker 7>that's important for the child to see the parents in

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<v Speaker 7>like a harmonious relationship and you know, and everybody else

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<v Speaker 7>involved in it. And I think in the black community,

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<v Speaker 7>it's not something that we see and so it's foreign.

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<v Speaker 7>And even like I'm dating somebody and I like we

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<v Speaker 7>went to Disneyland or some shit, and it was like

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<v Speaker 7>a huge deal, and I'm like, dude, you're not gonna

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<v Speaker 7>this is gonna continuously be an uphill battle because this

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<v Speaker 7>guy is not going anywhere, you know, and.

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<v Speaker 3>Anywhere, and like, no, I don't like him that much.

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<v Speaker 3>She sent some foulship.

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<v Speaker 7>But at the end of the day, I'm not gonna

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<v Speaker 7>punish my child because of our relationship, you know, right.

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<v Speaker 7>So I mean and especially as like as like you said,

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<v Speaker 7>as women, it's easy to attack the woman. It's easy

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<v Speaker 7>to dislike the woman. It's easy to you know, like

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<v Speaker 7>not have that that sisterhood or you know.

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<v Speaker 6>That be the bigger person. But I you know, I

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<v Speaker 6>think that's a big deal.

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<v Speaker 7>And the fact that you're open about it and discuss it,

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<v Speaker 7>it's a great example of how it's supposed to be.

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<v Speaker 3>And I want to be I want to be very

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<v Speaker 3>transparent here because I never want to paint the picture

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<v Speaker 3>to women that I say physic before I sit again.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not ue like even with things that are transpired,

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<v Speaker 3>I still have my moments, you know, when he's like, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>well we're going here and she's going to be with us.

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<v Speaker 3>There's still that thing that makes my life. I don't

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<v Speaker 3>want anybody think that I'm saying there's like, oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm just very poppin. I still I still definitely have

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<v Speaker 3>my moments with it. But when you and I'm sure

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<v Speaker 3>you can attest to this, when you look at where

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<v Speaker 3>you were when you were in your relationships where you

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<v Speaker 3>are now. I'm so happy where I am, and so

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<v Speaker 3>I always remember that I have peace and love in

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<v Speaker 3>my life right now. I'm happy. So this all happens

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<v Speaker 3>for a reason. So sometimes I just wanted to say that,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, if anybody is listening to this thing, you're

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<v Speaker 3>going through that, and don't be like, why can't I

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<v Speaker 3>get there? It's not easy, and it's battle every day.

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<v Speaker 5>You're human, and it takes time. Time doesn't happen overnight.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, even me slowly push I'm I'm still I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>me and my my my baby's father. We're definitely in

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<v Speaker 4>a better space than we were three months ago, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>four months ago, and it just takes time and time

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<v Speaker 4>and time more time.

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<v Speaker 5>And we haven't entered into that the dating.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, obviously I've been dating, but not anyone serious

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<v Speaker 4>enough to introduce my child to them and vice versa,

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<v Speaker 4>so we haven't. That's a whole other like field, that's

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<v Speaker 4>a whole other layer to co parenting and just all

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<v Speaker 4>of that that I haven't even experienced yet. So when

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<v Speaker 4>listening to you gives me hope but also makes me like,

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<v Speaker 4>oh shit, God, damn.

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<v Speaker 3>The level of this show.

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<v Speaker 6>I thought I was mature. Maybe not.

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<v Speaker 3>If I'm the man who gets that too, because that's

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<v Speaker 3>butble to understanding what men are.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, that's that's true.

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<v Speaker 7>They expect a lot, but then when it's time for

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<v Speaker 7>them to for she was on the other foot, it

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<v Speaker 7>ain't so easy. Mm hmm. But you know what, that's

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<v Speaker 7>a big that what you said was really good, because

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<v Speaker 7>sometimes I get like, you can get lonely or however

0:28:24.720 --> 0:28:26.520
<v Speaker 7>you feel in your feelings, and you're like, have you

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<v Speaker 7>got if you go back to like the mis how

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<v Speaker 7>miserable you are in an unhappy relationship to being alone.

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<v Speaker 7>You're like, oh, never mind, very happy, very grate.

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<v Speaker 8>I have more time now than I had when we

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<v Speaker 8>were together, and I'm able to get more stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>Back, So can't be mad at that?

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<v Speaker 6>No, absolutely not, is okay? So it is like your blog,

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<v Speaker 6>is that your like your main job or do you

0:28:49.680 --> 0:28:50.360
<v Speaker 6>have another job?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah? I think I am able to make that happen.

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<v Speaker 3>I just started topography as well, So right, two main

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<v Speaker 3>sources of income? Wait say the second one again?

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<v Speaker 5>Photography?

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<v Speaker 6>Photography?

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<v Speaker 3>Photography. Oh yeah, I checked that out.

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<v Speaker 6>I saw some of your work bomb than you.

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<v Speaker 7>I was like, oh, but she's a profession now, she's

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<v Speaker 7>real classy, multiple talents and ship.

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<v Speaker 3>I saw I read your like the interview did or

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<v Speaker 3>the photograph she.

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<v Speaker 7>Did with Erica Badum, which is awesome because who doesn't

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<v Speaker 7>love Erica obsessed.

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<v Speaker 4>Like the Queen Mother Goddess, seen her like ten times

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<v Speaker 4>I would see her. Yeah yeah, but I honestly like,

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<v Speaker 4>it's so interesting because I've heard her talk about her

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<v Speaker 4>her experience as a doula, and she.

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<v Speaker 7>Says she talks about in the blog that you read

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<v Speaker 7>it that Erica was a doula to her ex partner,

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<v Speaker 7>her baby daddies, two of her baby daddy's kids.

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<v Speaker 5>So I think that's full circle.

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<v Speaker 3>It was I think it was one. It was one

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<v Speaker 3>baby father, two kids. Yeah, yeah, right for the for

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<v Speaker 3>the doc.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>And she said he's still my best friend.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, we're still best friends.

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm like, goals, I want to do it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>that's real.

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<v Speaker 7>Right, that's real, bro, that's inspiration for that ass for real. So, Okay,

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<v Speaker 7>at what point were you okay once you started this

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<v Speaker 7>five uh three? You said three years ago you started.

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<v Speaker 6>Black Mom's Blog.

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<v Speaker 7>It'll be three years okay, So like what were you

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<v Speaker 7>always doing focusing on this full time?

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<v Speaker 3>Or did you have like a point where you were

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<v Speaker 3>able to like just do solely this or.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, like, at what point did in your journey with

0:30:40.200 --> 0:30:42.480
<v Speaker 4>Black Mom's Blog did you finally make it your full

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<v Speaker 4>time job? Because I think a lot of our listeners

0:30:45.640 --> 0:30:47.760
<v Speaker 4>and us too, like we're starting, we're just on this

0:30:47.880 --> 0:30:51.440
<v Speaker 4>journey of our podcast and you know, navigating through social

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<v Speaker 4>media and.

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<v Speaker 5>Just I mean, I think a lot of.

0:30:55.400 --> 0:30:59.520
<v Speaker 4>Our followers too have aspirations of you know, taking using

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<v Speaker 4>social media and making it a full time job. I

0:31:01.480 --> 0:31:03.720
<v Speaker 4>think so many people do now because our art, so

0:31:03.880 --> 0:31:05.760
<v Speaker 4>much in our lives are driven by it.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, So at what point were you able to feel

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<v Speaker 5>comfortable being like, Okay, you know what this is it.

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<v Speaker 4>I can walk away from whatever else, what other other

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<v Speaker 4>sources of income and make this my full time thing.

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<v Speaker 3>So when I started Black homk Clog, I was a

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<v Speaker 3>say home mother, but I have my own deals, right,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm just gonna star off baying that my daughter's father

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<v Speaker 3>was our primary source of income for everything. I was

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<v Speaker 3>monetizing a little bit, but not that much. And when

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<v Speaker 3>we broke up, I moved out. We moved in with

0:31:39.760 --> 0:31:41.840
<v Speaker 3>some friends of mine, and I was like, Okay, I'm

0:31:41.880 --> 0:31:43.880
<v Speaker 3>still going to blog, but I was also going to

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<v Speaker 3>look for a full time job. With my schedule and

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<v Speaker 3>being a mother, I'm sure you kind of tested this job.

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<v Speaker 9>Do not care.

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<v Speaker 3>They want you to sell your life to them. They

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<v Speaker 3>don't care about weekends, they don't care about late night.

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<v Speaker 3>And I was having a real hard time finding feasible

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<v Speaker 3>income that would support my daughter and I And I

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<v Speaker 3>think at the time Black Must Blog was sitting on

0:32:02.400 --> 0:32:05.680
<v Speaker 3>about thirty or forty thousand followers, and I had I

0:32:05.800 --> 0:32:09.120
<v Speaker 3>was like Okay, well, let me professionalize my blog and

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<v Speaker 3>get a media kit and a Rake card and all that.

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<v Speaker 3>And I just started pitching and I was like, I'm

0:32:14.000 --> 0:32:16.520
<v Speaker 3>sitting on this platform that could be something more than

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<v Speaker 3>what it is. And so within six months, I had

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<v Speaker 3>monetized the block out to about sixteen thousand dollars. So

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, okay, so this has the potential to

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<v Speaker 3>be something great. I also want to say, at the

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<v Speaker 3>time that I got into blogging and monetizing, the market

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<v Speaker 3>was amazing for it. Instagram has since changed the algorithm,

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<v Speaker 3>and I don't ever want anybody to think that, you know, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>it's like it's just about the twenty things like it's

0:32:39.080 --> 0:32:41.920
<v Speaker 3>become harder to make money on Instagram now. They kind

0:32:41.920 --> 0:32:44.080
<v Speaker 3>of got hit to what was going on, and they've

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<v Speaker 3>changed a lot of their things, like our supposeds to

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<v Speaker 3>do really well, and they still do really well, but

0:32:48.880 --> 0:32:52.440
<v Speaker 3>they've just changed the advertising market. So that has been

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<v Speaker 3>an effect. So at the time this was maybe I

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<v Speaker 3>will say, three months into me monetizing. One of my mentors,

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<v Speaker 3>she's one of my mentors now. She runs an eco

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<v Speaker 3>friendly baby store here and she hired me to work

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<v Speaker 3>there part time and It was great because it was

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<v Speaker 3>still in the element of what I was doing. And

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<v Speaker 3>I did that for about seven or eight months, and

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<v Speaker 3>the blog was really starting to do well. But I

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<v Speaker 3>noticed that because I was working and being creative for

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<v Speaker 3>someone else, I wasn't able to focus on myself. So

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<v Speaker 3>I made this decision. I was like, I have to

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<v Speaker 3>walk away. And it was a gamble because I wasn't

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<v Speaker 3>making a ton of money at her spot, but it

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<v Speaker 3>was consistent, and I was like, if I quit, then

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<v Speaker 3>I'll be able to really focus on my blog and

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<v Speaker 3>increase that. And I worked backwards. I was like, if

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<v Speaker 3>I'm making this amount every month, what is it that

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<v Speaker 3>I need to do on the block to make the

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<v Speaker 3>same amount. So I made a plan. I gave her

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<v Speaker 3>a thirty day notice and I walked away after a

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<v Speaker 3>year roughly of monetizing. And so that was a year

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<v Speaker 3>and a half film.

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<v Speaker 6>Wowow, that's spomb I'm inspired. I'm like, take care out

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<v Speaker 6>slid media kids.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, what was that? No, but the bomb is.

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<v Speaker 6>Really good and everything you touch on it is really

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<v Speaker 6>uh useful.

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<v Speaker 7>So for our listeners, if you haven't checked it out,

0:34:17.880 --> 0:34:20.359
<v Speaker 7>Black Mom's blog has like a bunch of really cool

0:34:20.480 --> 0:34:26.520
<v Speaker 7>articles I saw like fitness stuff, recipes, like local things.

0:34:26.239 --> 0:34:28.600
<v Speaker 6>That you take your daughter to in Atlanta. And I

0:34:28.680 --> 0:34:29.839
<v Speaker 6>know you guys do events too.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we do mostly event pretty much going to Hot

0:34:34.040 --> 0:34:37.839
<v Speaker 3>Life by Rome. It's actually started in January, normal fun.

0:34:37.880 --> 0:34:40.400
<v Speaker 3>Around March. We did our first meet up of the

0:34:40.480 --> 0:34:44.000
<v Speaker 3>year in Philadelphia and we didn't want to RUNTI. This

0:34:44.120 --> 0:34:47.920
<v Speaker 3>year we did one in Orland and mostly Atlanta. So

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<v Speaker 3>I have them about eight to nine months out of

0:34:50.200 --> 0:34:52.680
<v Speaker 3>the year, once a month. Majority of them are free

0:34:52.760 --> 0:34:55.920
<v Speaker 3>origination faith and it really is for women to come

0:34:55.960 --> 0:34:58.000
<v Speaker 3>out and be able to connect with women in their city.

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<v Speaker 6>Cool like a mom networking event. Yes, yep, that's cool.

0:35:04.760 --> 0:35:05.279
<v Speaker 5>I saw you have.

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<v Speaker 7>You're doing some things for this week for Black Mom

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<v Speaker 7>Black Breastfeeding Week. Yeap, what are some of the things

0:35:12.360 --> 0:35:13.239
<v Speaker 7>you guys are doing this week?

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<v Speaker 3>So we pretty much dedicated the entire month of March

0:35:17.239 --> 0:35:20.200
<v Speaker 3>or Marsh. We dedicated the entire month of August to

0:35:20.400 --> 0:35:23.640
<v Speaker 3>black breastfeeding And as you know, month is March. Why

0:35:23.640 --> 0:35:26.520
<v Speaker 3>do I keep staying Marsh August is the official months

0:35:26.640 --> 0:35:30.320
<v Speaker 3>for breastfeeding with a national holidays technically for moms, and

0:35:30.360 --> 0:35:31.920
<v Speaker 3>we probably the only ones that know about it. But

0:35:33.040 --> 0:35:36.959
<v Speaker 3>and in our community, black women are the lowest number

0:35:37.000 --> 0:35:40.600
<v Speaker 3>of women that breastfeed, our infant mortality rate is higher,

0:35:40.680 --> 0:35:43.160
<v Speaker 3>and so I really wanted to sit light on that. So,

0:35:43.360 --> 0:35:46.360
<v Speaker 3>I mean, we've wrote articles, We've partnered with in Great brands,

0:35:46.800 --> 0:35:48.800
<v Speaker 3>and our big event for the month of March was

0:35:48.920 --> 0:35:51.840
<v Speaker 3>the nursusan that was helped to cut Sunday and it

0:35:51.960 --> 0:35:54.120
<v Speaker 3>was just an event that we encouraged women to come

0:35:54.160 --> 0:35:57.640
<v Speaker 3>out in solidarity to show support for black breastfeeding mothers.

0:35:58.400 --> 0:35:59.920
<v Speaker 6>Nice did you breastfeed?

0:36:01.400 --> 0:36:10.560
<v Speaker 3>I did breastfeed? Yes, like for how long? By asking? Yeah,

0:36:10.560 --> 0:36:13.520
<v Speaker 3>I know, it's fine. I only readest for about six months.

0:36:13.880 --> 0:36:15.480
<v Speaker 3>And even in those six months, I didn't do it

0:36:15.520 --> 0:36:17.840
<v Speaker 3>exclusively right And at the time, like I said, I

0:36:17.880 --> 0:36:20.520
<v Speaker 3>have my daughter when I was twenty three, and I

0:36:20.600 --> 0:36:22.600
<v Speaker 3>just didn't know what to do, you know what I mean, Like, yeah,

0:36:22.640 --> 0:36:26.040
<v Speaker 3>I was painful. I was always worried that she didn't

0:36:26.080 --> 0:36:28.400
<v Speaker 3>have enough milk. Like I said, I was only one

0:36:28.440 --> 0:36:30.240
<v Speaker 3>of my friends I had kids, and there was nobody

0:36:30.320 --> 0:36:32.759
<v Speaker 3>for me to talk to about it, and I just

0:36:32.920 --> 0:36:35.680
<v Speaker 3>became nervous. And you know, her father was, oh, she's

0:36:35.760 --> 0:36:38.680
<v Speaker 3>crying to must be hungry. And so we started formula

0:36:38.719 --> 0:36:41.279
<v Speaker 3>and writing up pretty early. So this part of this

0:36:41.360 --> 0:36:44.160
<v Speaker 3>too was very personal because I remember what I felt

0:36:44.200 --> 0:36:46.000
<v Speaker 3>like when I was going to that, and I was like,

0:36:46.200 --> 0:36:48.200
<v Speaker 3>how can I help another dow mom not go to

0:36:48.360 --> 0:36:50.040
<v Speaker 3>that and know that it's okay?

0:36:50.120 --> 0:36:52.600
<v Speaker 8>So I wanted to provide those resources for my.

0:36:52.640 --> 0:36:54.920
<v Speaker 3>Mom's on the page that felt thotained tellings that I

0:36:55.000 --> 0:36:56.399
<v Speaker 3>had when I was first seeing my daughter.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, did your mom encourage you? Or like, are you

0:37:00.719 --> 0:37:02.080
<v Speaker 7>willing to have a lot of friends that our moms

0:37:02.120 --> 0:37:04.480
<v Speaker 7>were like? Was it like did you like was there

0:37:04.520 --> 0:37:07.080
<v Speaker 7>a lot of discussion about breastfeeding before you had the

0:37:07.120 --> 0:37:08.839
<v Speaker 7>baby or was it just like, oh, I guess I'm

0:37:08.840 --> 0:37:09.520
<v Speaker 7>supposed to do this.

0:37:10.800 --> 0:37:13.640
<v Speaker 3>There wasn't much discussion, And like I said, my mom

0:37:13.680 --> 0:37:16.920
<v Speaker 3>doesn't live here in Atlanta, so and I was very

0:37:18.160 --> 0:37:20.800
<v Speaker 3>I'm a very strong minded person. So when I have

0:37:20.880 --> 0:37:22.520
<v Speaker 3>my mind but on something, there's not much you can

0:37:22.560 --> 0:37:24.440
<v Speaker 3>say or do this than to convince me otherwise, Like

0:37:24.760 --> 0:37:26.680
<v Speaker 3>I love my mom dearly. But even when it came

0:37:26.719 --> 0:37:29.040
<v Speaker 3>to the birthing process, I want to have a natural birth,

0:37:29.280 --> 0:37:30.960
<v Speaker 3>and I knew I needed to be as stress free

0:37:30.960 --> 0:37:33.680
<v Speaker 3>as possible, so I allowed nobody in the room. I

0:37:33.760 --> 0:37:35.440
<v Speaker 3>told everyone I would cause them when she was here,

0:37:35.800 --> 0:37:39.359
<v Speaker 3>and it was just myself and her father. So even

0:37:39.440 --> 0:37:44.120
<v Speaker 3>when it came to breastfeeding, no, I didn't really Me

0:37:44.120 --> 0:37:46.160
<v Speaker 3>and my mom didn't really have that conversation. I guess,

0:37:46.760 --> 0:37:49.680
<v Speaker 3>you know, like my mom's supported of any and everything

0:37:49.760 --> 0:37:51.680
<v Speaker 3>that I do. She is one of the most suppossed

0:37:51.719 --> 0:37:54.719
<v Speaker 3>parents I've ever came across. And I'm not despised because

0:37:54.719 --> 0:37:57.120
<v Speaker 3>she's my mom, Like she really is. Anything I've ever

0:37:57.200 --> 0:37:59.000
<v Speaker 3>wanted to do, she has my back on it without

0:37:59.040 --> 0:38:02.080
<v Speaker 3>any questions. She has not back. And so because I've

0:38:02.080 --> 0:38:05.760
<v Speaker 3>always known that, I didn't fear, oh she's gonna feel

0:38:06.239 --> 0:38:09.239
<v Speaker 3>this way if I do this, And that pretty much

0:38:09.280 --> 0:38:11.440
<v Speaker 3>been a huge motivation in my entire life. I know

0:38:11.520 --> 0:38:13.359
<v Speaker 3>that my mom will support me. I don't care if

0:38:13.360 --> 0:38:14.880
<v Speaker 3>I want to go go be a strip for tomorrow.

0:38:15.000 --> 0:38:17.400
<v Speaker 3>She would support me, you know, and to have that

0:38:17.640 --> 0:38:20.719
<v Speaker 3>from your mom really makes you feel like you can

0:38:20.760 --> 0:38:27.239
<v Speaker 3>do anything. So that wasn't the issue. I just didn't know,

0:38:27.560 --> 0:38:28.160
<v Speaker 3>you know what I mean.

0:38:28.560 --> 0:38:29.960
<v Speaker 6>I mean, like a lot I mean, like a lot

0:38:30.040 --> 0:38:32.040
<v Speaker 6>of women don't know, like a lot of moms. It's

0:38:32.040 --> 0:38:35.359
<v Speaker 6>all forlorn until you're in it, and then you're like, oh,

0:38:35.480 --> 0:38:36.399
<v Speaker 6>I think this is what I'm.

0:38:36.280 --> 0:38:36.840
<v Speaker 3>Supposed to do.

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<v Speaker 4>Well honestly, I mean for me, first of all, I

0:38:40.360 --> 0:38:43.680
<v Speaker 4>didn't even know Black Reastfeeding Week existed until this year.

0:38:44.160 --> 0:38:44.520
<v Speaker 3>He did it.

0:38:44.800 --> 0:38:48.680
<v Speaker 5>No, had no idea. And also.

0:38:51.360 --> 0:38:55.640
<v Speaker 4>While I've researched more about it, and I mean, you know,

0:38:55.920 --> 0:38:58.600
<v Speaker 4>obviously we researched, you know, the statistics and like only

0:38:58.640 --> 0:39:01.400
<v Speaker 4>sixty five percent of Black women even a temp breastfeeding,

0:39:01.600 --> 0:39:04.960
<v Speaker 4>and that hospitals or nine times more likely to offer

0:39:05.040 --> 0:39:09.239
<v Speaker 4>formula to black woman. Thinking about my experience with breastfeeding,

0:39:10.640 --> 0:39:14.399
<v Speaker 4>I realized, like really recently, like the last two days,

0:39:14.440 --> 0:39:17.400
<v Speaker 4>after really going in and really understanding all of this,

0:39:19.239 --> 0:39:23.320
<v Speaker 4>I was totally influenced into giving my kid formula and that.

0:39:24.080 --> 0:39:26.120
<v Speaker 4>And now I'm like, I feel like taken advantage of

0:39:26.239 --> 0:39:28.279
<v Speaker 4>I'm like, wait, what the fuck? I seriously had this

0:39:28.400 --> 0:39:30.360
<v Speaker 4>moment even this morning when I was looking up some

0:39:30.440 --> 0:39:32.759
<v Speaker 4>more stuff, I was like, oh my God, Like my

0:39:33.480 --> 0:39:39.160
<v Speaker 4>my doctor never offered donor milk, never even suggested it.

0:39:40.040 --> 0:39:43.239
<v Speaker 4>And I liked briacet feeding consultant. When I was I

0:39:43.280 --> 0:39:47.200
<v Speaker 4>had a LA lactation specialist, and like when I gave birth,

0:39:47.320 --> 0:39:49.120
<v Speaker 4>she came and she, you know, because Iri was having

0:39:49.160 --> 0:39:52.960
<v Speaker 4>problems latching. And you know, I breastfed my daughter for

0:39:53.000 --> 0:39:54.520
<v Speaker 4>three months, and my doctor kept saying, well, you know,

0:39:54.600 --> 0:39:56.640
<v Speaker 4>three months is like a good amount of time. You know,

0:39:56.719 --> 0:40:00.680
<v Speaker 4>that's like what wow heard association said is like, you

0:40:00.760 --> 0:40:03.000
<v Speaker 4>know it's the minimum amount, but if you're gonna do it,

0:40:03.080 --> 0:40:04.799
<v Speaker 4>then three months like a good amount of time.

0:40:05.480 --> 0:40:06.440
<v Speaker 3>And uh.

0:40:07.520 --> 0:40:08.520
<v Speaker 5>And so around three.

0:40:08.400 --> 0:40:11.160
<v Speaker 4>Months, like she wasn't getting enough milk and I was

0:40:11.239 --> 0:40:13.600
<v Speaker 4>really tired, and she was like, well, let's just give

0:40:13.640 --> 0:40:17.399
<v Speaker 4>her formula. Never suggested donor milk, never suggested other ways,

0:40:17.480 --> 0:40:19.080
<v Speaker 4>Like it wasn't like he didn't.

0:40:18.880 --> 0:40:21.399
<v Speaker 5>Try to fight for me to try to kill.

0:40:21.640 --> 0:40:25.680
<v Speaker 3>Ask you a question that m H when you were

0:40:26.640 --> 0:40:29.120
<v Speaker 3>when you give birth, did you have private insurance or

0:40:29.400 --> 0:40:30.920
<v Speaker 3>like public insurance?

0:40:30.960 --> 0:40:31.800
<v Speaker 9>I guess to say.

0:40:33.360 --> 0:40:37.440
<v Speaker 5>Private. Well, through my I had good insurance. I had

0:40:37.480 --> 0:40:38.160
<v Speaker 5>good insurance.

0:40:38.840 --> 0:40:39.040
<v Speaker 3>Wow.

0:40:39.680 --> 0:40:39.879
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:40:40.000 --> 0:40:43.360
<v Speaker 4>And and you know my mom breastfed me for a

0:40:43.360 --> 0:40:45.480
<v Speaker 4>short amount of time too, So she was always just

0:40:45.920 --> 0:40:48.480
<v Speaker 4>she didn't really encourage she did not encourage breastfeeding, but she.

0:40:48.600 --> 0:40:49.920
<v Speaker 5>Was like, if she's not eating enoughing, you need to

0:40:49.920 --> 0:40:50.520
<v Speaker 5>get for formula.

0:40:50.680 --> 0:40:53.840
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. And you know, I like, I like you.

0:40:54.080 --> 0:40:56.520
<v Speaker 4>Was the first out of all my friends to have kids.

0:40:56.680 --> 0:40:59.319
<v Speaker 4>Nobody had children, so I had no one to lean

0:40:59.400 --> 0:41:03.320
<v Speaker 4>on or like encourage me. And I was, you know,

0:41:03.600 --> 0:41:04.880
<v Speaker 4>you know, as you know, like when you first have

0:41:04.880 --> 0:41:08.319
<v Speaker 4>a kid, you're exhausted. Sometimes you just want the easy way.

0:41:08.400 --> 0:41:11.600
<v Speaker 4>You're just like, just just make this easy. And I

0:41:11.719 --> 0:41:13.239
<v Speaker 4>wish that there would have been someone that would have

0:41:13.280 --> 0:41:15.440
<v Speaker 4>been like, no, like this is so important, like you

0:41:15.560 --> 0:41:18.520
<v Speaker 4>should try to like there's there's other options.

0:41:19.640 --> 0:41:21.759
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, because I I I probably would have kept on.

0:41:21.960 --> 0:41:23.640
<v Speaker 5>I probably would have kept one with that.

0:41:23.920 --> 0:41:27.160
<v Speaker 4>And but researching black breastfeeding by it was like, wow,

0:41:27.200 --> 0:41:30.000
<v Speaker 4>it's so true. You don't really see black women. You

0:41:30.040 --> 0:41:33.160
<v Speaker 4>don't really see a lot of images of women breastfeeding.

0:41:33.239 --> 0:41:37.120
<v Speaker 4>It's usually white women or or like even just like

0:41:37.160 --> 0:41:39.680
<v Speaker 4>women in other in other countries, like brown women or

0:41:41.120 --> 0:41:43.720
<v Speaker 4>and if you don't see those things, then.

0:41:43.760 --> 0:41:44.160
<v Speaker 3>You don't know.

0:41:44.239 --> 0:41:45.440
<v Speaker 6>It's like it's not familiar to you.

0:41:45.560 --> 0:41:48.320
<v Speaker 7>It's forign and you know, I even even like I

0:41:48.560 --> 0:41:52.480
<v Speaker 7>I was always I had some pretty hippie friends that

0:41:52.560 --> 0:41:54.120
<v Speaker 7>I met in Atlanta when I was living in the

0:41:54.200 --> 0:41:56.840
<v Speaker 7>West since and she had humburgs and breastfed for a

0:41:56.880 --> 0:42:01.040
<v Speaker 7>really long time so luckily I had that my pissy's

0:42:01.040 --> 0:42:05.759
<v Speaker 7>friend actually supports system and that guidance. But I was

0:42:05.800 --> 0:42:11.040
<v Speaker 7>I gonna say, shit, Damna, they encourage me to breastfeed.

0:42:11.360 --> 0:42:11.520
<v Speaker 3>Oh.

0:42:11.600 --> 0:42:14.839
<v Speaker 7>But when I've really first discovered like Black Breastfeeding Week

0:42:14.880 --> 0:42:16.640
<v Speaker 7>and I start looking into it, like when I when

0:42:16.719 --> 0:42:19.359
<v Speaker 7>Lena was smaller, when I first had her, a lot

0:42:19.400 --> 0:42:22.040
<v Speaker 7>of my white friends because most of my friends aren't

0:42:22.040 --> 0:42:26.120
<v Speaker 7>black out here, and it's like they had questions like

0:42:26.200 --> 0:42:28.440
<v Speaker 7>why it have to be Black Breastfeeding Week or what

0:42:29.040 --> 0:42:32.960
<v Speaker 7>what does that mean? Like, you know, white people get

0:42:33.000 --> 0:42:35.440
<v Speaker 7>touchy over black stuff for no reason because they just

0:42:35.600 --> 0:42:36.480
<v Speaker 7>it seems.

0:42:37.640 --> 0:42:39.080
<v Speaker 5>Like you're separating yourself.

0:42:42.000 --> 0:42:44.160
<v Speaker 6>Right, But like, welcome to my world, my whole life.

0:42:45.120 --> 0:42:49.279
<v Speaker 7>But even like in that, I had to really dig

0:42:49.400 --> 0:42:52.719
<v Speaker 7>deeper and realize that there is a difference in you know,

0:42:53.400 --> 0:42:55.759
<v Speaker 7>how doctors push it for us and for them and

0:42:56.239 --> 0:42:59.440
<v Speaker 7>the images we see and how much subliminally that plays into.

0:42:59.400 --> 0:43:02.680
<v Speaker 3>Our you know, are are? You know are like how

0:43:02.800 --> 0:43:05.920
<v Speaker 3>how motivated we are to try And.

0:43:05.960 --> 0:43:09.200
<v Speaker 5>The history of the history of black breastfeeding is so

0:43:09.320 --> 0:43:09.880
<v Speaker 5>interesting too.

0:43:10.840 --> 0:43:14.760
<v Speaker 3>And I setting an interviews being that very thing about

0:43:15.239 --> 0:43:17.399
<v Speaker 3>because you know what a blog called Black Mother's blaw.

0:43:17.520 --> 0:43:19.480
<v Speaker 8>That is definitely a touchy topic.

0:43:19.360 --> 0:43:21.880
<v Speaker 3>And I've been called racist and people are like, well,

0:43:21.880 --> 0:43:24.560
<v Speaker 3>why is this blackness? And you know, separation and it's

0:43:24.600 --> 0:43:27.920
<v Speaker 3>all moms, it's all rescuing, and what's the interesting about

0:43:27.960 --> 0:43:31.000
<v Speaker 3>it that I think when it comes to Black Breastfeeding Week,

0:43:31.880 --> 0:43:35.399
<v Speaker 3>just like we celebrated, right, but it didn't come from

0:43:35.400 --> 0:43:37.480
<v Speaker 3>a place of a good thing. It came from a

0:43:37.520 --> 0:43:39.520
<v Speaker 3>place of meeting that spread awareness. And I'm like, can

0:43:39.600 --> 0:43:41.360
<v Speaker 3>we just have that? Like it's not like it's a

0:43:41.400 --> 0:43:44.239
<v Speaker 3>good thing that black women babies are dying more and

0:43:44.320 --> 0:43:46.560
<v Speaker 3>this is we're tasking. It's just the reality. It's the fact.

0:43:47.200 --> 0:43:50.200
<v Speaker 3>So when other you know, rights to one in particular,

0:43:50.239 --> 0:43:52.879
<v Speaker 3>they're like, well, why aren't we included in this? Well,

0:43:53.239 --> 0:43:56.839
<v Speaker 3>y'all are resting your kids, y'all are as before y'all

0:43:56.880 --> 0:43:58.520
<v Speaker 3>are able to do that. Like we're doing this to

0:43:58.560 --> 0:44:02.120
<v Speaker 3>bring awareness of the fact that we're like when did like,

0:44:02.200 --> 0:44:04.200
<v Speaker 3>can we have that serious?

0:44:04.800 --> 0:44:06.520
<v Speaker 5>Can we try to improve our community?

0:44:06.800 --> 0:44:12.000
<v Speaker 3>Like I realize when it comes to the work black

0:44:13.040 --> 0:44:15.759
<v Speaker 3>they just they they don't like we have culture and

0:44:15.840 --> 0:44:17.560
<v Speaker 3>they don't feel like they do. You put black in

0:44:17.640 --> 0:44:20.360
<v Speaker 3>front of anything and becomes an issue because they're Latino

0:44:20.440 --> 0:44:23.879
<v Speaker 3>Mom's flaws. There's a Latina magazine, you know, they eat

0:44:24.160 --> 0:44:27.399
<v Speaker 3>Chinese food, they celebrate single to mayo, and they don't

0:44:27.400 --> 0:44:29.120
<v Speaker 3>have problems with that. They're not like, why do these

0:44:29.200 --> 0:44:31.600
<v Speaker 3>Mexicans get to drink for Sinco and we are included

0:44:31.640 --> 0:44:34.000
<v Speaker 3>in that. They have an issue with the word black,

0:44:34.320 --> 0:44:38.560
<v Speaker 3>and it's because we don't have culture to this. They

0:44:38.600 --> 0:44:40.839
<v Speaker 3>don't realize that the way that we do things are

0:44:40.880 --> 0:44:44.239
<v Speaker 3>different in our households, our hair days, the food that

0:44:44.360 --> 0:44:46.960
<v Speaker 3>we eat, the way that we relate to each other.

0:44:47.360 --> 0:44:49.360
<v Speaker 3>They just don't see a kind of culture. So they

0:44:49.440 --> 0:44:51.799
<v Speaker 3>look at it like, when you want to be Americans,

0:44:52.000 --> 0:44:54.040
<v Speaker 3>you're American. Assimilates how we do things.

0:44:54.360 --> 0:44:55.080
<v Speaker 9>We're all one.

0:44:55.760 --> 0:44:59.080
<v Speaker 3>But in reality it's okay to accept and appreciate our differences.

0:44:59.440 --> 0:45:01.319
<v Speaker 3>But we're the only group of people that they don't

0:45:01.400 --> 0:45:03.480
<v Speaker 3>like to do that for that is so true. So

0:45:05.080 --> 0:45:07.719
<v Speaker 3>nobody's attacking Latino Magazine and wondering why they don't feat

0:45:07.719 --> 0:45:10.040
<v Speaker 3>your white women, but they're definitely attacking black mom's blogs

0:45:10.120 --> 0:45:12.439
<v Speaker 3>because we seat your black women. And on the foot

0:45:12.480 --> 0:45:15.839
<v Speaker 3>side of that would always say, you go to these

0:45:15.920 --> 0:45:18.200
<v Speaker 3>websites and even if you don't go to a mom website,

0:45:18.600 --> 0:45:22.000
<v Speaker 3>like I remember I typed in. I think if you

0:45:22.080 --> 0:45:24.080
<v Speaker 3>go to Google and you type in anything that has

0:45:24.120 --> 0:45:25.880
<v Speaker 3>to do with a person, Like let's say we type in,

0:45:26.080 --> 0:45:29.680
<v Speaker 3>you know, you're going to a garden party, you're looking

0:45:29.719 --> 0:45:31.320
<v Speaker 3>for an outfit, and you go on Google and you

0:45:31.440 --> 0:45:34.160
<v Speaker 3>type in garden party outfits and you scroll through, all

0:45:34.160 --> 0:45:36.239
<v Speaker 3>you're gonna see is the white women, right, And that's

0:45:36.320 --> 0:45:39.600
<v Speaker 3>hard for black women, like because the way that things

0:45:39.640 --> 0:45:41.400
<v Speaker 3>fit us start the same. The colors aren't gonna be

0:45:41.440 --> 0:45:44.040
<v Speaker 3>the same, so there's very little reference for us. And

0:45:44.160 --> 0:45:45.359
<v Speaker 3>that was a big part of it for me when

0:45:45.360 --> 0:45:47.439
<v Speaker 3>I would get on Instagram and I'd look for certain things.

0:45:47.520 --> 0:45:49.400
<v Speaker 3>If I type in like I need a bath time photo,

0:45:49.760 --> 0:45:51.920
<v Speaker 3>so I type in bath popping up with people with

0:45:51.960 --> 0:45:54.920
<v Speaker 3>the white kids, and white people don't realize that because

0:45:54.920 --> 0:45:57.680
<v Speaker 3>it's normal for them. They're using seeing themselves. It's not.

0:45:58.760 --> 0:46:02.839
<v Speaker 3>It's not it's not exclusive for us, right, So it's

0:46:02.920 --> 0:46:04.120
<v Speaker 3>just the black.

0:46:04.080 --> 0:46:07.720
<v Speaker 4>That they have the issue with or black So speaking

0:46:07.800 --> 0:46:10.320
<v Speaker 4>of that, like I was, I am curious about, you know,

0:46:10.440 --> 0:46:13.640
<v Speaker 4>the reaction to your blog and your Instagram, Like, do

0:46:13.760 --> 0:46:16.520
<v Speaker 4>you do you get a lot of hate mail or

0:46:16.680 --> 0:46:19.719
<v Speaker 4>d ms on the regular like I'm assuming that, I'm

0:46:19.719 --> 0:46:20.160
<v Speaker 4>assuming the.

0:46:20.160 --> 0:46:23.160
<v Speaker 5>Answer is yes, and like do you do you respond?

0:46:23.360 --> 0:46:24.120
<v Speaker 5>How do you deal with that?

0:46:25.440 --> 0:46:27.680
<v Speaker 3>So I don't think it's much as that you see there.

0:46:28.400 --> 0:46:29.879
<v Speaker 3>They come up every now and again. I don't want

0:46:29.880 --> 0:46:31.520
<v Speaker 3>to make this thing like every week we get hate mail,

0:46:31.520 --> 0:46:33.200
<v Speaker 3>because it's not. We don't. We don't get a lot

0:46:33.239 --> 0:46:37.919
<v Speaker 3>of hate mails, but their occasions when yeah, I'll stay

0:46:37.960 --> 0:46:40.239
<v Speaker 3>in a month's time, I might get approached two to

0:46:40.320 --> 0:46:43.480
<v Speaker 3>three times by that person that either calls us racist

0:46:43.760 --> 0:46:48.040
<v Speaker 3>or question the purpose behind what we do. And I

0:46:48.239 --> 0:46:52.279
<v Speaker 3>honestly trying to explain it to me because I wasn't

0:46:52.280 --> 0:46:54.320
<v Speaker 3>to understand like if you come to me and you

0:46:54.360 --> 0:46:56.239
<v Speaker 3>say she needs to be a racist for creating black

0:46:56.320 --> 0:46:58.920
<v Speaker 3>Mom's blog, or you ask me, I'm not gonna be like,

0:46:59.120 --> 0:47:02.560
<v Speaker 3>yeah I am racist. No it's not. And so I

0:47:02.640 --> 0:47:04.359
<v Speaker 3>really kind of break it down and explain to them

0:47:04.400 --> 0:47:07.080
<v Speaker 3>why this exists, and I give them, I give them homework.

0:47:07.360 --> 0:47:08.959
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, hey, if you really want to know the answer,

0:47:09.000 --> 0:47:11.440
<v Speaker 3>I'll give you an answer, and I expect you to

0:47:11.520 --> 0:47:13.080
<v Speaker 3>do these steps to and come back to me and

0:47:13.160 --> 0:47:14.960
<v Speaker 3>let me know what you think. And so one of

0:47:15.040 --> 0:47:18.319
<v Speaker 3>the experiments when I give is definitely that experiment. I'll say, hey,

0:47:18.320 --> 0:47:20.120
<v Speaker 3>I want you to go on Google and I want

0:47:20.160 --> 0:47:21.640
<v Speaker 3>you to type in it in something of your day

0:47:21.680 --> 0:47:23.120
<v Speaker 3>with like I'll let YouTube, so I don't want you

0:47:23.160 --> 0:47:25.480
<v Speaker 3>to think that I'll do plans it, you know, and

0:47:25.719 --> 0:47:28.120
<v Speaker 3>I want you to scroll for two or three minutes

0:47:28.160 --> 0:47:29.920
<v Speaker 3>to tell me how many black people you come across.

0:47:30.239 --> 0:47:32.200
<v Speaker 3>That's one of the things i'll tell them to The

0:47:32.280 --> 0:47:33.759
<v Speaker 3>second thing I'll do is I'll tell them to turn

0:47:33.800 --> 0:47:35.360
<v Speaker 3>on their TV and watch it for ten minutes and

0:47:35.400 --> 0:47:37.400
<v Speaker 3>tell me how many black people they feel on their television.

0:47:38.200 --> 0:47:40.279
<v Speaker 3>And so I'll give them a little assignments and I'll say, hey,

0:47:40.360 --> 0:47:43.480
<v Speaker 3>this is why we exit, and because the world is

0:47:43.520 --> 0:47:46.040
<v Speaker 3>so exclusive to you that you don't even realize how

0:47:46.080 --> 0:47:48.680
<v Speaker 3>many black people you aren't seeing. How many TV shows

0:47:48.719 --> 0:47:51.920
<v Speaker 3>you watch where there's only one black person, that token

0:47:52.000 --> 0:47:53.919
<v Speaker 3>black person you don't see that you don't re see

0:47:53.920 --> 0:47:57.319
<v Speaker 3>a you know, mainstream TV show that all black people

0:47:57.360 --> 0:48:01.720
<v Speaker 3>and one white person. So I realized that they're ignorant

0:48:01.719 --> 0:48:04.040
<v Speaker 3>a lot of times. And when I make that effort

0:48:04.120 --> 0:48:07.160
<v Speaker 3>to make the explanation not put a tend, they get it.

0:48:07.880 --> 0:48:09.719
<v Speaker 3>There are the few who don't want to get it

0:48:09.800 --> 0:48:12.120
<v Speaker 3>and they just want to be angry, and for them,

0:48:12.239 --> 0:48:14.560
<v Speaker 3>I just there's no whole bunch flood that go. But

0:48:14.719 --> 0:48:16.440
<v Speaker 3>I really do try to explain why it is the

0:48:16.480 --> 0:48:21.840
<v Speaker 3>real thing, because my goal is to show we're not

0:48:22.000 --> 0:48:25.279
<v Speaker 3>exclusive or we're not including anyone, And if you've ever

0:48:25.360 --> 0:48:27.440
<v Speaker 3>been on our website, if you've ever been to a meetup,

0:48:27.520 --> 0:48:30.120
<v Speaker 3>or you've ever been on our Instagram account, we don't

0:48:30.200 --> 0:48:33.080
<v Speaker 3>bash any other race. We're just uplifting our rate and

0:48:33.200 --> 0:48:36.000
<v Speaker 3>making us acceptable and accepts the other people. Which is

0:48:36.080 --> 0:48:37.359
<v Speaker 3>said that that even have to happen.

0:48:38.640 --> 0:48:42.200
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, it is, and it's sad that we even have

0:48:42.280 --> 0:48:44.239
<v Speaker 7>to think twice about it because I also read on

0:48:44.320 --> 0:48:47.520
<v Speaker 7>your blog there is a poor part you were saying,

0:48:47.600 --> 0:48:50.000
<v Speaker 7>and when you first started this, you didn't see images

0:48:50.040 --> 0:48:52.720
<v Speaker 7>of yourself or other moms, like a lot of black moms,

0:48:52.880 --> 0:48:55.279
<v Speaker 7>and the ones that you did were like low key,

0:48:55.480 --> 0:48:58.000
<v Speaker 7>like really whitewashed that you may not have even known,

0:48:58.080 --> 0:49:02.080
<v Speaker 7>you know. And I thought that was interesting because there's

0:49:02.120 --> 0:49:06.000
<v Speaker 7>certain like there's certain things I want, like we're pretty prop,

0:49:06.120 --> 0:49:08.640
<v Speaker 7>we're very pro black, I mean, we're poor, you know whatever,

0:49:09.040 --> 0:49:12.040
<v Speaker 7>But there there were times, first of all, we live

0:49:12.080 --> 0:49:15.760
<v Speaker 7>in the valley. We both majority have like non black friends,

0:49:15.840 --> 0:49:18.320
<v Speaker 7>and we have a mixture of friends. But I remember

0:49:18.400 --> 0:49:22.040
<v Speaker 7>like our first episode or first like there was you

0:49:22.080 --> 0:49:24.719
<v Speaker 7>know a lot of people, even my black friend was like,

0:49:24.960 --> 0:49:27.959
<v Speaker 7>be careful saying this, or be careful saying now, because

0:49:27.960 --> 0:49:29.760
<v Speaker 7>you don't want to limit your audience.

0:49:29.880 --> 0:49:31.360
<v Speaker 6>You don't want to exclude anybody.

0:49:31.960 --> 0:49:33.520
<v Speaker 7>And I had we had to think about it, and

0:49:33.560 --> 0:49:37.480
<v Speaker 7>even certain posts like things I feel passionately about, I

0:49:37.840 --> 0:49:40.480
<v Speaker 7>find myself like you know, like not second guessing, but

0:49:40.640 --> 0:49:43.480
<v Speaker 7>like considering like people's feelings in.

0:49:43.560 --> 0:49:49.120
<v Speaker 6>That sense, like what made you like to f it?

0:49:49.360 --> 0:49:49.520
<v Speaker 3>Now?

0:49:50.080 --> 0:49:52.640
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, fuck it, fuck it, I'm not going to be

0:49:52.760 --> 0:49:54.239
<v Speaker 7>on the I'm not going to be on the line here.

0:49:54.320 --> 0:49:55.960
<v Speaker 7>I'm going to be as black as I want to be.

0:49:56.040 --> 0:49:56.640
<v Speaker 6>It's my ship.

0:49:57.160 --> 0:49:59.400
<v Speaker 3>And because there are very.

0:50:00.760 --> 0:50:04.120
<v Speaker 7>Whitewashed black mom blockers that are not as vocal about

0:50:04.320 --> 0:50:07.160
<v Speaker 7>the struggles and the obstacles of actually being a black mom,

0:50:07.600 --> 0:50:09.840
<v Speaker 7>so what like, yeah, you know, what was your motivation?

0:50:10.400 --> 0:50:14.120
<v Speaker 6>And you know, even to this day until now, I don't.

0:50:13.880 --> 0:50:16.840
<v Speaker 5>Even know I would say that whitewash. But they're also scared.

0:50:17.200 --> 0:50:18.520
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, well it doesn't mean like they're scared.

0:50:18.520 --> 0:50:19.160
<v Speaker 5>They're just scared.

0:50:19.280 --> 0:50:23.959
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, I would definitely say exactly what you just said.

0:50:24.960 --> 0:50:27.120
<v Speaker 3>Before I ran Black Mom's, I had a skincare line

0:50:27.160 --> 0:50:30.640
<v Speaker 3>here in Atlanta. It was called Yeo Mechanics, and Yao

0:50:30.719 --> 0:50:34.080
<v Speaker 3>means mother and Kahili, right, and that Kink Caroline was

0:50:34.120 --> 0:50:37.040
<v Speaker 3>not necessarily supposed to be this all only black skincare line,

0:50:37.040 --> 0:50:39.160
<v Speaker 3>but because I am African American, a lot of my

0:50:39.239 --> 0:50:42.359
<v Speaker 3>customers were African American. So when I started to market

0:50:42.400 --> 0:50:44.200
<v Speaker 3>an advertise, I realized a lot of my people were

0:50:44.200 --> 0:50:46.400
<v Speaker 3>black holm there, right, And it was skincare, so it

0:50:46.480 --> 0:50:48.279
<v Speaker 3>wasn't like this thing that had anything to do with

0:50:48.600 --> 0:50:52.520
<v Speaker 3>black people. It was just you know, chap body, butter body, scrubs,

0:50:52.560 --> 0:50:55.320
<v Speaker 3>these different things. And so as the brand started to

0:50:55.360 --> 0:50:57.080
<v Speaker 3>get more popular, I got kicked up by a really

0:50:57.080 --> 0:50:59.680
<v Speaker 3>big store here in Atlanta. And the first thing they

0:50:59.760 --> 0:51:02.279
<v Speaker 3>said it was, well, your product seem like they're only

0:51:02.320 --> 0:51:06.239
<v Speaker 3>marketed towards black people. And I was like, oh, And

0:51:06.440 --> 0:51:09.640
<v Speaker 3>so the woman wanted me to change my packaging because

0:51:09.760 --> 0:51:13.120
<v Speaker 3>the logo was a it was actually a monogram image

0:51:13.160 --> 0:51:15.400
<v Speaker 3>of myself, and monogram, you know, that means that it

0:51:15.520 --> 0:51:17.799
<v Speaker 3>was just one solid color but my hair was up,

0:51:17.880 --> 0:51:19.080
<v Speaker 3>so it was black people's in the fun and she

0:51:19.200 --> 0:51:21.360
<v Speaker 3>was like, that just looks like it's only for black people.

0:51:21.520 --> 0:51:21.719
<v Speaker 4>Wow.

0:51:21.840 --> 0:51:26.680
<v Speaker 3>And I remember being so conflicted because I was like, ouh, you.

0:51:26.719 --> 0:51:27.920
<v Speaker 6>Know, it's my line.

0:51:28.080 --> 0:51:28.440
<v Speaker 9>It's me.

0:51:29.960 --> 0:51:33.920
<v Speaker 3>I'm not a yeah. And I was like I had

0:51:33.960 --> 0:51:37.000
<v Speaker 3>followed all of these white companies that brand skincare line

0:51:37.200 --> 0:51:40.400
<v Speaker 3>and they rarely had black advertisements in their in their platforms,

0:51:40.719 --> 0:51:42.880
<v Speaker 3>and they didn't care. People still bought from them, it

0:51:43.000 --> 0:51:46.279
<v Speaker 3>was not a problem. And I felt like I was like,

0:51:46.360 --> 0:51:48.600
<v Speaker 3>I have to change my line to conform to the thing.

0:51:48.680 --> 0:51:50.799
<v Speaker 3>And I felt so guilty about that because I did

0:51:50.920 --> 0:51:53.600
<v Speaker 3>end up changing my packaging and myself did go up.

0:51:54.000 --> 0:51:56.440
<v Speaker 3>Those things did happen, but it is when you run

0:51:56.480 --> 0:51:59.319
<v Speaker 3>a black owned business, it's like extra pressure to make sure.

0:52:00.040 --> 0:52:02.840
<v Speaker 3>I highly doubt that white people they're becoming more conscious

0:52:02.880 --> 0:52:05.520
<v Speaker 3>of it now, but they went years and years without

0:52:05.560 --> 0:52:07.600
<v Speaker 3>ever hearing about whether or not they had black people

0:52:07.600 --> 0:52:09.960
<v Speaker 3>in the advertisingness because they knew we would buy some

0:52:10.080 --> 0:52:16.160
<v Speaker 3>in regardless. Now that avertiol right, And so that experience

0:52:16.880 --> 0:52:20.879
<v Speaker 3>really shaped my blog because I'm a very pro black

0:52:20.960 --> 0:52:23.080
<v Speaker 3>person and I was like, I'm tired of having to

0:52:23.920 --> 0:52:26.160
<v Speaker 3>be like, oh, the same for you. No, this is

0:52:26.200 --> 0:52:28.279
<v Speaker 3>for black mothers, and we have many people that are

0:52:28.360 --> 0:52:30.160
<v Speaker 3>part of it. We have other racists. We had white

0:52:30.160 --> 0:52:32.680
<v Speaker 3>women that are meet up on Sunday. It's not exclusive

0:52:33.640 --> 0:52:35.759
<v Speaker 3>to where they can't attend. They can definitely come. But

0:52:35.920 --> 0:52:38.319
<v Speaker 3>this is for black women, and I wanted to make

0:52:38.400 --> 0:52:42.160
<v Speaker 3>that known off top Black mom Blog. There's no confusion.

0:52:42.480 --> 0:52:44.640
<v Speaker 3>I don't care how you feel about it. This is

0:52:44.719 --> 0:52:46.560
<v Speaker 3>not for you if you have a problem for it.

0:52:47.080 --> 0:52:49.840
<v Speaker 3>And I wanted to be very unapologetic about that because

0:52:50.640 --> 0:52:52.800
<v Speaker 3>of exactly what she just say. We're constantly in that

0:52:52.880 --> 0:52:55.359
<v Speaker 3>position to have to consider them and they're just now

0:52:55.440 --> 0:52:56.440
<v Speaker 3>starting to consider us.

0:52:58.160 --> 0:53:01.080
<v Speaker 6>Hey man, you said that's so eloquent.

0:53:01.280 --> 0:53:07.400
<v Speaker 4>You did you did so because you are you have

0:53:07.520 --> 0:53:11.080
<v Speaker 4>this platform, and you have a daughter, and you know

0:53:11.880 --> 0:53:15.279
<v Speaker 4>you you walk through this life as a black woman,

0:53:15.320 --> 0:53:17.000
<v Speaker 4>and you have you deal with the struggles of every

0:53:17.120 --> 0:53:20.480
<v Speaker 4>of a black woman in this life. How do you

0:53:21.280 --> 0:53:24.759
<v Speaker 4>how do you prepare your daughter for you know, just

0:53:26.120 --> 0:53:28.560
<v Speaker 4>just the things that she's gonna encounter in life, you

0:53:28.640 --> 0:53:31.640
<v Speaker 4>know what I mean? Like our daughters are three, so

0:53:32.000 --> 0:53:35.280
<v Speaker 4>you know they're just starting into their journey in school

0:53:35.920 --> 0:53:42.560
<v Speaker 4>and socialization and really understanding that even just skin color

0:53:42.840 --> 0:53:45.719
<v Speaker 4>and what that what it means, and what it doesn't mean.

0:53:46.719 --> 0:53:50.520
<v Speaker 4>How what are what are tools or what lessons are

0:53:50.560 --> 0:53:52.840
<v Speaker 4>you teaching your daughter to kind of prepare her for

0:53:53.920 --> 0:53:54.759
<v Speaker 4>the world we live in.

0:53:57.480 --> 0:54:00.239
<v Speaker 3>That's question because I think it acts at all like

0:54:00.320 --> 0:54:02.080
<v Speaker 3>I've met moms and they're like my daughter's five, and

0:54:02.120 --> 0:54:03.640
<v Speaker 3>I've never talked to her about the skin color. And

0:54:07.160 --> 0:54:09.080
<v Speaker 3>one thing that my heads and I do really well

0:54:09.200 --> 0:54:12.560
<v Speaker 3>on is that he's a jazz musician, and you know,

0:54:12.719 --> 0:54:17.120
<v Speaker 3>jazz is very black. We've always been very vocal with

0:54:17.280 --> 0:54:20.960
<v Speaker 3>her about who she is, what she represents, her hair,

0:54:21.600 --> 0:54:25.960
<v Speaker 3>you know, thinks that she should love her surroundings. And

0:54:26.120 --> 0:54:30.080
<v Speaker 3>so Cameron knows about different colors. She knows that people

0:54:30.160 --> 0:54:32.359
<v Speaker 3>come from different parts of the world. She knows when

0:54:32.400 --> 0:54:34.040
<v Speaker 3>she's in a room when she's the only black person,

0:54:34.440 --> 0:54:36.000
<v Speaker 3>Like I just wrote an article about her being the

0:54:36.040 --> 0:54:38.080
<v Speaker 3>only to the black girl in her school. I mean

0:54:38.120 --> 0:54:39.640
<v Speaker 3>I have the school, but in her classroom, she's the

0:54:39.719 --> 0:54:42.520
<v Speaker 3>only black person in her classroom. And we have very

0:54:42.600 --> 0:54:46.200
<v Speaker 3>lengthy discussions with her daily about that. And it's so

0:54:46.280 --> 0:54:49.480
<v Speaker 3>funny because I didn't want to see her my opinions.

0:54:49.480 --> 0:54:50.719
<v Speaker 3>So I asked her, was like, how do you feel

0:54:50.719 --> 0:54:52.799
<v Speaker 3>about school? And you know, what do you think about

0:54:52.840 --> 0:54:55.080
<v Speaker 3>your classmates? And you know, so on and so forth.

0:54:55.440 --> 0:54:56.880
<v Speaker 3>And one of the first things she says to me,

0:54:56.960 --> 0:54:58.160
<v Speaker 3>she goes, there's a lot of white people.

0:54:58.800 --> 0:55:02.359
<v Speaker 9>And she's five, because you know, there's a lot.

0:55:02.280 --> 0:55:04.520
<v Speaker 3>Of white people. And she said something that really kind

0:55:04.560 --> 0:55:08.879
<v Speaker 3>of it made me reevaluate some things that she goes,

0:55:08.920 --> 0:55:10.719
<v Speaker 3>you know, my old school, there are a lot of

0:55:10.760 --> 0:55:12.600
<v Speaker 3>people that look like me, that were my color. She

0:55:12.719 --> 0:55:15.200
<v Speaker 3>like cuts her arm and she goes, those are my friends.

0:55:15.200 --> 0:55:16.799
<v Speaker 3>And we would see each other and we say friend

0:55:16.840 --> 0:55:18.800
<v Speaker 3>twin because we looked the same. And she was like,

0:55:18.880 --> 0:55:22.400
<v Speaker 3>those people aren't at my school anymore. And as a parent, oh,

0:55:22.640 --> 0:55:26.279
<v Speaker 3>she broke my heart. Can hear her say that? And

0:55:26.440 --> 0:55:27.799
<v Speaker 3>so I asked her, I said, you want to change

0:55:27.840 --> 0:55:30.440
<v Speaker 3>classrooms because there's something you want us to do to

0:55:30.520 --> 0:55:33.400
<v Speaker 3>make this better. And she goes, no, you know, And

0:55:33.480 --> 0:55:38.759
<v Speaker 3>I'm very communicative with my daughter, and so for me,

0:55:39.040 --> 0:55:41.399
<v Speaker 3>because we're in that situation, I look at it two

0:55:41.440 --> 0:55:44.040
<v Speaker 3>ways because most people like I would never put my

0:55:44.120 --> 0:55:46.480
<v Speaker 3>child in that situation, and you know, I would never

0:55:46.600 --> 0:55:49.440
<v Speaker 3>see that I think is that she's learning lesson very

0:55:49.480 --> 0:55:52.840
<v Speaker 3>early about America. There are situations that you're going to

0:55:52.880 --> 0:55:55.880
<v Speaker 3>be in where you're the only black girl. Also, I

0:55:56.000 --> 0:55:59.960
<v Speaker 3>do believe in letting for see other cultures. I don't

0:56:00.080 --> 0:56:02.520
<v Speaker 3>think you give me pro black and not understand other cultures,

0:56:03.120 --> 0:56:06.280
<v Speaker 3>you know. So that's pretty good. And outside of school,

0:56:06.320 --> 0:56:09.759
<v Speaker 3>it's my responsibility to constantly see her her culture of

0:56:09.800 --> 0:56:11.960
<v Speaker 3>who she is. So all of her dolls are black,

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<v Speaker 3>her books are black, the friends that she has, the

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<v Speaker 3>things that surround ourselves with. There's a heavy influence on

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<v Speaker 3>African American culture. And we're the only people that think

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<v Speaker 3>something's wrong with that. And I'll give the example. We

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<v Speaker 3>had a say date last week with her friend in

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<v Speaker 3>Korean and on Saturdays, his mother and his father takes

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<v Speaker 3>him to Korean school with a four hour flat on

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<v Speaker 3>the Saturday, and in that course they talk about Korean language, tradition,

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<v Speaker 3>dance culture, and nobody believes nine. But when you say

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<v Speaker 3>I have to surround myself my child's with their culture,

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<v Speaker 3>people are like, oh my god, you're still racist. It's

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<v Speaker 3>just the word black. So we're constantly working with her

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<v Speaker 3>outside of the school to make sure that she knows

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<v Speaker 3>who she is.

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<v Speaker 7>Damn that's true. I know how friends that went to

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<v Speaker 7>Hebrew school. Hell of friends that like that have like

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<v Speaker 7>separate things. My neighbor's kids go to Russian school on

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<v Speaker 7>the weekends, and you're al I never even thought about

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<v Speaker 7>it in that that those terms, but damn, that's that's

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<v Speaker 7>super true.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I was thinking of I saw that post on

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<v Speaker 4>your blog about your daughter going to being the only

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<v Speaker 4>black girl in her class, and I felt part of

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<v Speaker 4>me was like, hmm, I wonder like if if she

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<v Speaker 4>if because like for me, when I when my daughter

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<v Speaker 4>starting school, she started summer camp and she's starting school,

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<v Speaker 4>it was very important to me that she goes to

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<v Speaker 4>a diverse school, Like it was I basically any time

0:57:39.880 --> 0:57:42.040
<v Speaker 4>I walked into a school when I was touring schools

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<v Speaker 4>and I saw all.

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<v Speaker 5>White kids, I was like, Nope, this isn't the one. Nope,

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<v Speaker 5>this is one.

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<v Speaker 4>Took me a long time to find one, especially where

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<v Speaker 4>we live, because where we live it is diverse, but

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<v Speaker 4>there just are a lot of white kids.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not like shit.

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<v Speaker 6>Me Erco grew up and I'm sure you were one

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<v Speaker 6>of three.

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<v Speaker 4>I was the only black girl in my whole high school. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>my whole high school, my whole in my grade in high.

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<v Speaker 6>School, all four years, there was through like four black.

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<v Speaker 5>People at my Oh actually there was two. There was

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<v Speaker 5>me and one other girl.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh okay, okay, just back up, get off the chair.

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<v Speaker 4>Now.

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<v Speaker 7>Erica's has a highly as highly scared of bugs and

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<v Speaker 7>every time we record one attacks.

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<v Speaker 3>Or relax, it's just a spider.

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<v Speaker 6>We're gonna sew it.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh it's fun.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, sorry. But when I saw your blog, I wondered.

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<v Speaker 4>I was like, I wonder if she did that intentionally,

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<v Speaker 4>because yes, we do, we are going to have to

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<v Speaker 4>when we do walk. We can protect our kids as

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<v Speaker 4>much as we want, but we do have to prepare,

0:58:36.520 --> 0:58:38.440
<v Speaker 4>prepare them for the real world. Or if it was

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<v Speaker 4>just done by chance, or if you did research the

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<v Speaker 4>school beforehand, or how that, how.

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<v Speaker 5>That came to be? I mean, obviously you can't. You know,

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<v Speaker 5>your daughter's five, so when she's an issue, what's that preschool? Kindergarten?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, so you don't always know how the classes are

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<v Speaker 4>going to fall, like well, who's going to be in

0:58:55.120 --> 0:58:58.800
<v Speaker 4>what class? And in that way too, But I thought

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<v Speaker 4>about that like and and me as a kid growing up,

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<v Speaker 4>like I was in school, I had semi diverse school

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<v Speaker 4>experience once. I well, middle school was all white and Jewish,

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<v Speaker 4>all white and Jewish, and then high school there was

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<v Speaker 4>a few black It was mostly black boys because they

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<v Speaker 4>were athletes, and then me and one other girl in

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<v Speaker 4>her class, and it definitely definitely affected me. Definitely affected me,

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<v Speaker 4>especially because I was raised by my mom is a Latina,

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<v Speaker 4>and you know, she wasn't she wasn't like pushing black

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<v Speaker 4>images in front of me. I was seeking them, like

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<v Speaker 4>I was gravitating towards people.

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<v Speaker 5>Like I'm like, oh my god, where do you live?

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<v Speaker 5>Can I come to see?

0:59:38.520 --> 0:59:38.800
<v Speaker 3>I come?

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<v Speaker 5>And I was like, maybe my mom drive me to

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<v Speaker 5>like a Fox sales Mom. She's like, why the fuck

0:59:42.560 --> 0:59:44.439
<v Speaker 5>you want to go to Fox Sales mom, because there's

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<v Speaker 5>people that look like me there.

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<v Speaker 6>Dropped me off back in five hours by.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>That's living in Atlanta, right.

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<v Speaker 9>The thing is the building that I live in.

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<v Speaker 3>I've lived here on and off for your new ten years,

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<v Speaker 3>and that here before I had my daughter, and the

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<v Speaker 3>school because we live in the city, and I'll tip

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<v Speaker 3>a fire and say that Atlanta school systems are horrible.

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<v Speaker 3>We have a horpal school system here and the area

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<v Speaker 3>that we live in rezone, cannot attend schools, right, and

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<v Speaker 3>because we live in Atlanta, I know, it never crossed

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<v Speaker 3>my mind that her school might not have black people.

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<v Speaker 7>I I'm shocked actually when you said that, I was

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<v Speaker 7>a damn really right, So that wasn't It wasn't.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't think about that. I was like, oh, were

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<v Speaker 3>living in Atlanta, of course those were black kids there.

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<v Speaker 3>I just was more so concerned about her going to

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<v Speaker 3>a good school. And it wasn't the purposeful thing as

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<v Speaker 3>we had lived here for a long time, still live here,

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<v Speaker 3>we can come pick her up. I just thought it

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<v Speaker 3>super conveyent, and she was at a great school, great opportunity,

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<v Speaker 3>like her elementary school has an engineering club. You know

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<v Speaker 3>what I meant was great. And so I didn't find

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<v Speaker 3>out that it was completely white until we went to

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<v Speaker 3>orientation because you can tour the school, but a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of times the poor houses over the summer, the kids

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<v Speaker 3>aren't really there. The teachers, the office that black. That

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<v Speaker 3>was great. But when we went to orientation the day

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<v Speaker 3>before school and I'm starting in the classroom, I'm looking,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, there's twenty three students and I was like, whoa,

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<v Speaker 3>there was an Indian student, an Asian student, a biracial student,

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<v Speaker 3>and my daughter and the other nineteen students were Caucasian,

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<v Speaker 3>and so yeah, it was definitely the shock for me.

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<v Speaker 3>And I kind of grew up in a similar situation

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<v Speaker 3>where the schools I went to I had both the

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<v Speaker 3>parents in the elementary school. One school I went to

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<v Speaker 3>was completely white. There were a couple of black people,

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<v Speaker 3>but there weren't a lot. And then I looked on

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<v Speaker 3>an all black and my thing worked for my daughter.

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<v Speaker 3>I needed her to get a good education, and a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of problems is that they are diverse. They do

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<v Speaker 3>have people that look like our kids, but they don't

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<v Speaker 3>have the same resources. The more fluent school JEF right,

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<v Speaker 3>and so you have to pick between a good education

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<v Speaker 3>and diversity.

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<v Speaker 8>And what I remember is when I was growing up,

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<v Speaker 8>when I.

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<v Speaker 3>Think about the school that was mostly white, there were moments,

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<v Speaker 3>yeah when I felt some kind of right. But we

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<v Speaker 3>went on field trips, everything was great, My teacher was nice,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, I remember those things that blackol My teacher

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<v Speaker 3>was more stressed out. The kids, some of them had

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<v Speaker 3>more behavioral issues which affected the learning overall. And so

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<v Speaker 3>it's definitely been conflicting trying to figure out what did

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<v Speaker 3>you do between diversity or good education?

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<v Speaker 8>And of all places like Atlanta the pent Areas, there

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<v Speaker 8>aren't a lot of black families.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, that sucks.

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<v Speaker 5>That's so surprising. Yeah, well that's really interesting.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah for sharing that because I think a lot of

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<v Speaker 4>I think a lot of our listeners can probably relate

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<v Speaker 4>to that. I know I can for sure trying to

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<v Speaker 4>decide between diversity and the education that you're going to get.

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<v Speaker 4>And unfortunately there's always who you kind of have to

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<v Speaker 4>pick a side, but not always, but it's a it's

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<v Speaker 4>an issue that comes up constantly lean and I think

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<v Speaker 4>me and Mila with our kids starting to enter into school,

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<v Speaker 4>it's something that you definitely have to take into consideration.

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<v Speaker 4>And unfortunately, unfortunately, do you have any more questions?

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<v Speaker 3>No, that was really good.

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<v Speaker 6>Thank you so much for taking time out of your

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<v Speaker 6>day to day to talk to us and to.

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<v Speaker 3>Share your story.

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<v Speaker 6>We so appreciate you.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and just again for our listeners, make sure you

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<v Speaker 4>follow Shinisia on app at black Mom's Blog.

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<v Speaker 5>And what's your website? Is it just black Moms blog

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<v Speaker 5>dot com?

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<v Speaker 3>Right? Yeah, black blog? What's you're hearing?

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<v Speaker 6>Your photography well, your photography.

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<v Speaker 3>What's your photography page is yao dot photography E y

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<v Speaker 3>oh dot photography and I'm working on the website. But

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<v Speaker 3>the website is Gaophotography.

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<v Speaker 7>Moms do so nice to meet you, and we are

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<v Speaker 7>coming to Atlanta soon and if we don't come there first,

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<v Speaker 7>definitely let us know about your meet up in LA

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<v Speaker 7>because we're coming.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, we would love to go.

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<v Speaker 3>That would be awesome. Thank you for having lad. Thank you.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, guys, we'll see you guys next week.

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<v Speaker 4>Make sure you follow us at Good Mom's Bad Choices

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<v Speaker 4>and we'll see later.

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<v Speaker 3>Bad by Hie.

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<v Speaker 1>Can only get better from you. Control. I got it,

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<v Speaker 1>I gotchall have

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<v Speaker 3>Staf Is body