1 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:22,000 Speaker 1: Fish Unfiltered, Episode forty six. We are here with Josh 2 00:00:22,040 --> 00:00:24,239 Speaker 1: Bell first base and for the Miami Marlins. Josh, thank 3 00:00:24,280 --> 00:00:26,680 Speaker 1: you for the time. We appreciate it and asked and Isac. 4 00:00:26,680 --> 00:00:28,640 Speaker 2: I'll let you take it away, Josh. Obviously you've only 5 00:00:28,640 --> 00:00:30,560 Speaker 2: been to Marlin for a couple of weeks and already you. 6 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:33,920 Speaker 3: Cemented yourself into the Marlins record books, first rollandever Homer 7 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:34,479 Speaker 3: for both. 8 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:34,960 Speaker 2: Sides of the plate. 9 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:38,000 Speaker 3: You helped out in that five run ninth and you 10 00:00:38,040 --> 00:00:40,440 Speaker 3: comeback and also back to back to back one same 11 00:00:40,479 --> 00:00:41,320 Speaker 3: time Friday's history. 12 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:43,440 Speaker 2: Is this like best case scenario for you sorry to 13 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:44,160 Speaker 2: be a new team. 14 00:00:44,680 --> 00:00:47,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I couldn't have written up any better. 15 00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 4: I know that we had our works cut out for 16 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:53,040 Speaker 4: us with scheduling and all that, and we didn't start 17 00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:56,680 Speaker 4: off just after that trade deadline as well as we could. 18 00:00:56,720 --> 00:00:59,120 Speaker 4: But you know, our offense really, you know, took a 19 00:00:59,160 --> 00:01:00,720 Speaker 4: step forward there and I was happy to be a 20 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:01,040 Speaker 4: part of it. 21 00:01:01,480 --> 00:01:03,440 Speaker 1: I do want to ask about that Yankees getting the 22 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 1: Sunday game. Obviously, I guess we're down basically seven to one. 23 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:07,800 Speaker 1: He guess taking a couple of runs then obviously that 24 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:10,360 Speaker 1: nine fitting justice goes crazy. Just was the mindset entering 25 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:13,400 Speaker 1: that inning when you guys ended up winning eight to seven. 26 00:01:13,800 --> 00:01:16,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it all started with Yulie. You know, 27 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:18,880 Speaker 4: obviously Clay Holmes has some of the best stuff in 28 00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:21,560 Speaker 4: the league, best you know sinker in the league for 29 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:24,760 Speaker 4: sure by far. He was able to get a pitch 30 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:27,120 Speaker 4: up on the zone. Uh, drive it off that that 31 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 4: right field wall and kind of sparked the offense a 32 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:32,200 Speaker 4: little bit. It starts with one big hit when you're 33 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 4: down big and then just passed the baton, passed the 34 00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:39,200 Speaker 4: baton to the next batter. Hopefully you're making the a 35 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:41,200 Speaker 4: bet for the guy behind you a little bit easier 36 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:44,360 Speaker 4: runners in scoring position and whatnot. It started with that, 37 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 4: and then you know, it ended with Berger. You know, 38 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:49,480 Speaker 4: huge at bat. I know they had a base open, 39 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:50,840 Speaker 4: so I'm sure he had in the back of his 40 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 4: mind and he didn't know whether or not they're going 41 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 4: to pitch him or not. But got a split finger 42 00:01:55,560 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 4: up in the zone, drove in the left field, and 43 00:01:57,360 --> 00:01:58,160 Speaker 4: the rest is history. 44 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:03,040 Speaker 2: Two man is gonna do it. 45 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 3: Jake Burger is the hero. 46 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:11,280 Speaker 2: Good Morning's come all the way back. Eight seven. 47 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:17,320 Speaker 3: Marlin Twin were you surprised that they had the base open. 48 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 2: They toasted pitch to a burger there. 49 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:21,240 Speaker 4: Well they had they had Celaire behind them, so it's 50 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:23,400 Speaker 4: like picture poison. You know, it's the best protection in 51 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:27,120 Speaker 4: the league right there. So yeah, I don't know what 52 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:29,160 Speaker 4: I would do. I would probably just throw my best 53 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:31,200 Speaker 4: off speed pitch and then cross my fingers, and that's 54 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:33,040 Speaker 4: what they did and it didn't work out for him. 55 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 1: I do want to ask you about the Astros series also, 56 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:37,680 Speaker 1: obviously you guys won the first one, lost yesterday, but 57 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:40,480 Speaker 1: just kind of how how us as the series thus far? 58 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, played good baseball the first game. On 59 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:45,840 Speaker 4: the second game not so much. I think both teams 60 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 4: didn't play their best level of their best brand in baseball, 61 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:51,280 Speaker 4: but you know that happens from time to time. This 62 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:54,600 Speaker 4: is definitely an important game, you know, going into this 63 00:02:54,639 --> 00:02:57,760 Speaker 4: off day and going into California for La and San Diego. 64 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 4: We know we have Verlander on the We're gonna do 65 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:03,440 Speaker 4: a preparation for him and then try to attack him 66 00:03:03,480 --> 00:03:05,360 Speaker 4: as his best weekend and we'll see what happens for 67 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:09,720 Speaker 4: the game. Yeah, and in spring and I know for sure, 68 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 4: I'm not quite sure. Uh, you know in my regular career, 69 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:16,880 Speaker 4: but you know, his his fastball speaks for itself. It 70 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:20,639 Speaker 4: seems like for the most part, everyone has an elite fastball. Now, 71 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:22,800 Speaker 4: he was like, you know, leading the pack for for 72 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:26,240 Speaker 4: years and years, but everyone's pretty much tailoring their game 73 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:28,400 Speaker 4: off of guys like him, guys like sure Zer de 74 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:31,200 Speaker 4: grond So, uh, you know, it won't be the first 75 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:33,840 Speaker 4: time that we've seen fastball with you know, twenty inch 76 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 4: for this year, so we'll be ready for him. 77 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:38,960 Speaker 2: Is there any different mindset heading into face the future 78 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:39,760 Speaker 2: Hall of Famer like that? 79 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 4: No? I mean, uh, it's it's definitely different. You know, 80 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:46,240 Speaker 4: we talk about it. You got guys making forty to 81 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:48,840 Speaker 4: fifty million dollars a year. It's a little bit different, 82 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:52,560 Speaker 4: but in the in the same mindset. I think once 83 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 4: the game starts, once the first pitch is throw, and 84 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:59,280 Speaker 4: you're just focusing on, you know, doing your job. But yeah, 85 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 4: you gotta tip gap for guys like that, you know, 86 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:04,120 Speaker 4: playing the game the right way. I think he's only 87 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:05,960 Speaker 4: gotten hurt a couple of times in his career. He's 88 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:09,240 Speaker 4: thrown for for you know, almost two decades now. You know, 89 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:11,680 Speaker 4: guys like him, Guys like Grinky guys like sures Er, 90 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:15,560 Speaker 4: you gotta respect. But once once that you know, play 91 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:17,800 Speaker 4: ball is called, it's it's go time, and it's us 92 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 4: versus name that went on the ground in the right 93 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 4: center feel for a base hit, Tucker will call off DuPont, 94 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 4: Bell's gonna go per second, here comes the throw and 95 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:29,120 Speaker 4: he does get there. 96 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:32,240 Speaker 2: Let's speak of another picture. That's obviously really good. 97 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:34,240 Speaker 3: Your teammates with him, now, Samuel Contract, You've had a 98 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:36,800 Speaker 3: lot of bats against him, not a lot of success. 99 00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:38,240 Speaker 2: What makes him so tough? 100 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:40,920 Speaker 4: What are my numbers against him? I don't know. I'll 101 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:45,320 Speaker 4: get this for you because I always felt like I could. 102 00:04:45,839 --> 00:04:47,520 Speaker 4: I saw him really well, and it was always just 103 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 4: a foul ball, you know how Like you know, the 104 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:52,440 Speaker 4: ball looks really really good and next thing you know, 105 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:56,880 Speaker 4: you're swinging. You can't really square it up. But uh, definitely, 106 00:04:56,920 --> 00:04:58,960 Speaker 4: I told him the other day. You know, one of 107 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 4: the happiest reasons why I'm traded here. When I got traded, 108 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:03,800 Speaker 4: the reason why I was the most happy was because 109 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:05,120 Speaker 4: I wouldn't have to face him at least for the 110 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:08,480 Speaker 4: rest of this year. Keep my numbers up as best 111 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:11,920 Speaker 4: as I can. But you know, I want to say, 112 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:15,480 Speaker 4: it must have been two years ago. He had no 113 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 4: hitter going against us, you know, and you know guys 114 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:23,159 Speaker 4: that are like constantly up for complete games. It's really impressive. 115 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 4: You look up, it's the eighth in a he's at 116 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:28,600 Speaker 4: eighty pitches. It's like like, man, are we gonna get 117 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 4: this guy in the game or what? But yeah, he's 118 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:32,720 Speaker 4: definitely special. 119 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:34,760 Speaker 2: In your career. You're five for twenty six with a 120 00:05:34,760 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 2: couple of rbi and a home run. 121 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:38,839 Speaker 4: Five for twenty six, is not it? Ye? 122 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:40,560 Speaker 2: Do you remember the home run? 123 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:45,200 Speaker 4: Uh? Yeah, it must have been twenty twenty one on Washington. Yeah. 124 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:48,880 Speaker 3: Oh, Bell puts a charge into one. 125 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:55,279 Speaker 1: See you later, way out of here the left center. 126 00:05:57,160 --> 00:05:58,640 Speaker 2: I want to ask you about your Pittsburgh days. 127 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:01,360 Speaker 1: Obviously you kind of good called up right after kind 128 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:04,200 Speaker 1: of their playoffs when they made the playoffs, their success there, 129 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:06,359 Speaker 1: but he still played with some pretty damn good players 130 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:10,559 Speaker 1: fro mccutch and sur Valley. Just what was it playing 131 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:12,760 Speaker 1: like with those guys in that those Pittsburgh teams kind 132 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 1: of right after the playoffs? 133 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean we're constantly trying to, you know, scratch 134 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:20,919 Speaker 4: her way back, and even even those postseason runs, they 135 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 4: felt like they left something, you know, on the table. 136 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:26,960 Speaker 4: Beat The Reds got to the next round but lost 137 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 4: to the Cubs in the wild cards, So you know, 138 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 4: the whole organization was still really really hungry. They really 139 00:06:32,920 --> 00:06:34,680 Speaker 4: wanted to get to that next stage. I know the 140 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 4: fan base did too. It was awesome playing with Couch, 141 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:40,680 Speaker 4: got to play with him for a couple of years. 142 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:45,880 Speaker 4: Guys like Josh Harrison, Sean Rodriguez, Gregor Blanco is still 143 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:48,800 Speaker 4: a really good friend of mine. Uh. You know, those 144 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:51,320 Speaker 4: were like the formative years of my career. I was 145 00:06:51,320 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 4: able to watch like an MVPN couch, like go about 146 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 4: his day, watch how we responded to the media. I 147 00:06:57,120 --> 00:06:59,839 Speaker 4: know he had like ups and downs of his career, 148 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 4: but you know, he's having one of the worst starts 149 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:05,720 Speaker 4: that you know, I had seen for him, and I'm 150 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 4: sure he would say that for himself. And I must 151 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 4: have been twenty eighteen. Yeah, really really grinding, and you 152 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:15,640 Speaker 4: know he was always present for the media. He was 153 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:19,520 Speaker 4: always you know, you know, quick to blame himself and 154 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 4: not others. And then you know, look up. I want 155 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 4: to say it was August, he was Player of the 156 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:25,120 Speaker 4: month and I was hidden behind him, and it was 157 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:27,600 Speaker 4: like every bat he got a hit, like every two 158 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:32,280 Speaker 4: strike count. It was just guaranteed line drive to redfield, 159 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:36,080 Speaker 4: lots of doubles, lots of homers. And he dug himself 160 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:39,680 Speaker 4: out of that and ended up getting traded that offseason. 161 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:41,960 Speaker 4: They got Brian Reilds out of it and kind of 162 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 4: like you know, formed their now core was able to 163 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:48,160 Speaker 4: make it his way back over to Pittsburgh. So it 164 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:50,080 Speaker 4: was like a win win in the long hole. But 165 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:53,640 Speaker 4: you know, he definitely turned that season around. And me 166 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:55,160 Speaker 4: knowing that, you know, having that in the back of 167 00:07:55,240 --> 00:07:57,640 Speaker 4: my head this year, I didn't start off as as 168 00:07:57,640 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 4: well as I could, but I kind of just thought 169 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:01,560 Speaker 4: back at him, like, Okay, if he can do it, 170 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:02,600 Speaker 4: I can do it too. 171 00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:05,600 Speaker 1: So what do you say it was the kind of 172 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:07,520 Speaker 1: the biggest lesson to learn from that group of guys, 173 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 1: you know, obviously being one of the younger guys there, 174 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:12,440 Speaker 1: veterans with experienced them, you know, playoff experience. 175 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:14,640 Speaker 4: Just what do you think is the biggest lesson? Well, 176 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:19,720 Speaker 4: it's one of the things. David Freeze was a player 177 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:23,680 Speaker 4: there for that's right. I want to say maybe seventeen 178 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:27,680 Speaker 4: in eighteen, and then he got traded to the Dodgers 179 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:32,200 Speaker 4: and repeated there the next year. But he taught me 180 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:34,920 Speaker 4: a lot, like I grew up a Rangers fan, like 181 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:37,920 Speaker 4: I grew up diehard Rangers every time they made it 182 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:40,920 Speaker 4: to the postseason. So like he was like like he 183 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 4: was like the villain he you know, signs of the buyers, 184 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:47,640 Speaker 4: And I was like, man, like, I honestly hate this guy. 185 00:08:47,679 --> 00:08:50,480 Speaker 4: Don't even know him, Like I have like vivid memories 186 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:53,480 Speaker 4: of like screaming at the television like he's you know, 187 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:55,560 Speaker 4: sliding to the third base in the walk off, like 188 00:08:55,640 --> 00:09:00,400 Speaker 4: it was. It was wild. But meeting him, going out 189 00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:02,240 Speaker 4: to dinners with him, he taught me so much about 190 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:04,520 Speaker 4: the game. And like the one thing that will stick 191 00:09:04,559 --> 00:09:06,920 Speaker 4: with me for the rest of my playing careers that 192 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:10,120 Speaker 4: he said, baseball is the most important thing. Like in 193 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:12,880 Speaker 4: the off season, you can spend time with your family, 194 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:15,520 Speaker 4: hang out with friends. Well one spring training, and the 195 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:18,680 Speaker 4: season rolls around like everything else is on the back burner, 196 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:21,040 Speaker 4: like friends coming to town. Like, hey, baseball is the 197 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:23,280 Speaker 4: most important thing. Like I can catch you guys for 198 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:25,600 Speaker 4: a minute, but I'm not gonna take away from my 199 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:28,000 Speaker 4: game just hanging out with you because y'all will be 200 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:30,560 Speaker 4: there after my windows closed and somebody else is wearing 201 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:34,160 Speaker 4: my number playing the game. But right now, I gotta 202 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:35,960 Speaker 4: take care of this. And you know, he taught me 203 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:39,120 Speaker 4: that and I was, you know, twenty three, twenty four, 204 00:09:40,440 --> 00:09:41,800 Speaker 4: and I feel like that's one of the reasons why 205 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:43,760 Speaker 4: I'm still playing out because I have that mentality. 206 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:44,920 Speaker 2: Back then, you. 207 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:47,680 Speaker 3: Mentioned your Rangers fans, So do you agree that Nelson 208 00:09:47,679 --> 00:09:49,920 Speaker 3: Cruise should have been playing right field when David Freeze 209 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:50,920 Speaker 3: hit that trifle? 210 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:53,920 Speaker 4: No, I he should have been out there. He definitely 211 00:09:53,920 --> 00:09:57,079 Speaker 4: should have. I mean, he was right like a superstar. 212 00:09:58,080 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 4: That season for him was like one of the most 213 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:01,720 Speaker 4: fun things I've ever seen. 214 00:10:02,280 --> 00:10:04,760 Speaker 2: No defensive replacement though, in the ninth thing of World Series. 215 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:06,480 Speaker 4: No, because he's got the Kenny. He had the best 216 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:09,600 Speaker 4: arm in the league probably at that time. So like 217 00:10:09,640 --> 00:10:11,560 Speaker 4: ground ball to him, it's one thing. It was one 218 00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:14,080 Speaker 4: hopper off the ball, like tough and it wasn't like 219 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 4: it was a B line straight back. It was like 220 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 4: at an angle. Like looking at the play now, it's 221 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:22,000 Speaker 4: like you understand it. But like me, and you know, 222 00:10:22,040 --> 00:10:24,880 Speaker 4: I was maybe a junior or senior in high school, 223 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:28,520 Speaker 4: I was like, you know, like no doubles, you know, 224 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:30,600 Speaker 4: but right, you know, it happens. 225 00:10:30,800 --> 00:10:31,800 Speaker 2: It happens. 226 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:34,880 Speaker 3: Just crazy to go way back. You're actually committed to 227 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:37,120 Speaker 3: the University of Texas Boston. You were pretty adamant about 228 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:40,680 Speaker 3: going there, but you were drafted obviously by Pittsburgh Pirates. 229 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 3: What change that you decided to sign? 230 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:47,520 Speaker 4: Yeah. I ended up going to like summer school at 231 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:52,000 Speaker 4: UT so I took like summer courses there was able 232 00:10:52,040 --> 00:10:53,959 Speaker 4: to like meet some of the team, meet the staff, 233 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:56,120 Speaker 4: and I was like having to you know, blast and 234 00:10:56,160 --> 00:10:58,880 Speaker 4: the Pirates were like, hey, we're gonna offer. You offered 235 00:10:58,920 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 4: like a certain number, and I was like, hey, guys, like, no, 236 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:02,599 Speaker 4: like I want to focus on school. I see you 237 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:06,920 Speaker 4: guys in three years. And then I'd like basically double 238 00:11:06,960 --> 00:11:08,800 Speaker 4: that offer. And I was like, you know, talking to 239 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:11,360 Speaker 4: my family, my dad's like, hey, like we haven't made 240 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:14,040 Speaker 4: this much in our entire career, Like he had it 241 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:18,199 Speaker 4: all up, like this is like life changing money. And 242 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:21,280 Speaker 4: started talking to like some of the seniors that were there, 243 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:23,760 Speaker 4: you know, working out and stuff, going back for another year, 244 00:11:24,440 --> 00:11:26,080 Speaker 4: and they were like, dude, like we would sign for 245 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:29,120 Speaker 4: way less than that. Like college is fun, but like 246 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:32,920 Speaker 4: obviously the big leagues is the most important thing. It's 247 00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:36,960 Speaker 4: like the pinnacle of baseball. So the Pirates like up 248 00:11:36,960 --> 00:11:39,480 Speaker 4: their offer again and I was like, man, I'm gonna 249 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:42,000 Speaker 4: at least go home and talk with my family about it. 250 00:11:42,040 --> 00:11:44,160 Speaker 4: And you know, we sat in a circle, you know, 251 00:11:44,320 --> 00:11:49,000 Speaker 4: made the decision, you know, called the Pirates back. I 252 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:51,600 Speaker 4: really didn't talk with them for the for the longest time. 253 00:11:51,679 --> 00:11:55,360 Speaker 4: But I don't think obviously if I didn't make that decision, 254 00:11:55,640 --> 00:11:58,160 Speaker 4: I wouldn't be here right now, because the Pirates changed 255 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:01,880 Speaker 4: me over to first base right and that I think 256 00:12:01,920 --> 00:12:04,520 Speaker 4: prolonged my career too. So everything for a reason. 257 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:05,480 Speaker 2: The draft just happened. 258 00:12:05,480 --> 00:12:06,880 Speaker 3: So what would be your advice to, you know, these 259 00:12:06,920 --> 00:12:08,400 Speaker 3: high school kids that really have to make a tough 260 00:12:08,440 --> 00:12:10,680 Speaker 3: decision on whether or not to sign or another their 261 00:12:10,679 --> 00:12:11,680 Speaker 3: commitment to a good school. 262 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:14,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I don't know. I think it depends on, 263 00:12:16,280 --> 00:12:19,920 Speaker 4: like what you're looking for. I know that things are 264 00:12:19,920 --> 00:12:22,760 Speaker 4: a lot different now because there's less minor league teams. 265 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:26,040 Speaker 4: You're not going off you know, to like short season 266 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:30,480 Speaker 4: a ball. I think it just depends on your situation. 267 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:35,160 Speaker 4: I think that school will always be there, But in 268 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:39,160 Speaker 4: the same light, like those are very formative years, like 269 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:42,400 Speaker 4: eighteen nineteen twenty. You know a lot of my friends 270 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:44,440 Speaker 4: to this day or like those are the most fun. 271 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:46,240 Speaker 4: Like that was the most fun that I've ever had, 272 00:12:46,280 --> 00:12:48,440 Speaker 4: and I won't have those experiences. Like I was on 273 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:51,600 Speaker 4: a bus ride in right, you know, West Virginia going 274 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:54,280 Speaker 4: from place to place. But you know, I think if 275 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:57,679 Speaker 4: they could trade with me, they wouldn't Harvey. So you know, 276 00:12:58,000 --> 00:12:59,679 Speaker 4: that's why I think I made the right decision. 277 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:01,840 Speaker 1: Want to ask you about the trade to Washington obviously 278 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:03,920 Speaker 1: during I guess it was during the like right before 279 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:06,920 Speaker 1: during COVID kind of twenty twenty. There's just what was 280 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:08,680 Speaker 1: that experience? Like how'd you find out about the trade 281 00:13:08,679 --> 00:13:11,400 Speaker 1: and obviously making the transition from one division to another, 282 00:13:11,440 --> 00:13:13,400 Speaker 1: having it, you know, facing new teams, new pictures. 283 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:16,960 Speaker 4: Yeah. So, uh it was Christmas Eve. I was like 284 00:13:17,040 --> 00:13:20,360 Speaker 4: sitting around with my family, like just hanging out. It's 285 00:13:20,360 --> 00:13:23,800 Speaker 4: the holidays in Dallas, and I get a call from 286 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:28,920 Speaker 4: uh Ben Charrington, our new GM he just transferred over 287 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:32,280 Speaker 4: from I want to say, the Red Sox, and uh 288 00:13:33,080 --> 00:13:36,160 Speaker 4: he was like, Hey, sorry to do this during the holidays, 289 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:39,240 Speaker 4: but I wanted you to know before like Twitter told you, 290 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:42,160 Speaker 4: uh just got you just got traded to the Nuts, 291 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:44,000 Speaker 4: and I was like, god, I get traded for He 292 00:13:44,080 --> 00:13:50,640 Speaker 4: was like two young stuff's like Will Crow and another Ian. Yeah, 293 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:52,720 Speaker 4: another right handed picture. 294 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:53,080 Speaker 2: Uh. 295 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:55,840 Speaker 4: And I was like, you know, thanks for everything. I 296 00:13:55,880 --> 00:13:57,520 Speaker 4: know I didn't play as well as I could have 297 00:13:57,559 --> 00:14:00,040 Speaker 4: in twenty twenty. It was a weird season. Yeah, but 298 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:03,440 Speaker 4: you know, I appreciate you know, everything that you did. 299 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:06,600 Speaker 4: And I like walked back into the house and I 300 00:14:06,640 --> 00:14:08,960 Speaker 4: told my parents and like, we all love DC. We 301 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:11,559 Speaker 4: all like enjoyed going there on the road. So we're 302 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:14,080 Speaker 4: like jumping up and down excited, like get to play 303 00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:17,160 Speaker 4: for like the World Series champion, you know in DC, 304 00:14:17,559 --> 00:14:21,760 Speaker 4: get to play with Trey Turner, Won Soto. They signed 305 00:14:21,760 --> 00:14:24,360 Speaker 4: Schwarber that year, they signed like Josh Harrison who I 306 00:14:24,400 --> 00:14:28,520 Speaker 4: played with, Yeah, Jordi Mercer, Like it was. It was 307 00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:30,480 Speaker 4: awesome to be able to go into that squad. And 308 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:33,040 Speaker 4: of course I got COVID, like at the end of 309 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:35,440 Speaker 4: spring training was the worst best spring training in my life, 310 00:14:35,520 --> 00:14:39,640 Speaker 4: but got COVID started off really slowly, but I was 311 00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:42,280 Speaker 4: able to like salvage that year or two. But it 312 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:43,800 Speaker 4: was it was definitely a cool experience. 313 00:14:44,280 --> 00:14:46,240 Speaker 1: Oh you describe kind of playing with one soda. Obviously, 314 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:48,440 Speaker 1: now you've seen what he is. Obviously got traded with 315 00:14:48,520 --> 00:14:50,840 Speaker 1: him after Judis and year for just playing with one 316 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:53,040 Speaker 1: of the young stars of you know, today's game. 317 00:14:53,560 --> 00:14:58,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, he's a machine man. I feel like I played 318 00:14:58,560 --> 00:15:03,560 Speaker 4: with Nelson Cruz this past year and like watching his 319 00:15:03,640 --> 00:15:06,040 Speaker 4: attention to detail, like how he showed up every day, 320 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:08,720 Speaker 4: got into the weight room, did his routine, went into 321 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:12,280 Speaker 4: the cage, did his routine. Like I was like, oh 322 00:15:12,320 --> 00:15:15,040 Speaker 4: my gosh, Like one's doing that, like one's gonna be 323 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:17,760 Speaker 4: forty playing this game like one's gonna be forty, probably 324 00:15:17,800 --> 00:15:21,760 Speaker 4: hitting thirty homers with two hundred blocks at forty, Like 325 00:15:21,880 --> 00:15:27,560 Speaker 4: it's it's pretty special. I think that being a hard 326 00:15:27,560 --> 00:15:30,440 Speaker 4: worker is like easy to come by at this level, 327 00:15:30,600 --> 00:15:32,720 Speaker 4: Like everyone is here because they're a hard worker. And 328 00:15:32,760 --> 00:15:35,080 Speaker 4: if you're not a hard worker, I don't think you 329 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:38,240 Speaker 4: stick around in this game for very long. But with one, 330 00:15:38,360 --> 00:15:41,600 Speaker 4: it's like his attention to detail, like his offseason workouts, 331 00:15:42,160 --> 00:15:45,920 Speaker 4: how hard he works during the year. I'd never seen 332 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:50,120 Speaker 4: anything like that, So, you know, definitely kudos to him. 333 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:52,800 Speaker 4: That's like away from the field, like on the field, 334 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:55,400 Speaker 4: his attention to detail with like his eyesight and like 335 00:15:55,520 --> 00:15:58,400 Speaker 4: his zone and where he swings and where he doesn't swing, 336 00:15:58,520 --> 00:16:01,920 Speaker 4: and where he wants certain pitches to start in order 337 00:16:01,960 --> 00:16:03,520 Speaker 4: for him to even like get the bat off his 338 00:16:03,560 --> 00:16:06,960 Speaker 4: shoulders is like unbelievable, and he doesn't get away from it, 339 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:09,520 Speaker 4: and that's why he's gonna make a lot of money. 340 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:11,840 Speaker 2: Are you found of the shuffle with so shuffle? 341 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:14,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's it stinks because we have the clock now 342 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:17,400 Speaker 4: I can't do it anymore, you know, like it doesn't 343 00:16:17,400 --> 00:16:19,560 Speaker 4: have time to you know, show off for the fans. 344 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:23,600 Speaker 4: But he's still Soto, So he's definitely still a lot 345 00:16:23,600 --> 00:16:24,160 Speaker 4: of fun to watch. 346 00:16:24,280 --> 00:16:25,720 Speaker 2: And we mentioned the trade with Soda. 347 00:16:25,760 --> 00:16:27,480 Speaker 3: Is there any added pressure obviously you struggled a little 348 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:28,640 Speaker 3: bit once you got the San Diego? 349 00:16:29,400 --> 00:16:30,200 Speaker 2: Was there any how? 350 00:16:30,680 --> 00:16:33,720 Speaker 3: How does that affect you mentally being traded with you know, 351 00:16:34,080 --> 00:16:35,880 Speaker 3: almost modern day baby Ruth type player. 352 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:40,440 Speaker 4: Yeah. I don't think that, like the trade itself had 353 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:43,800 Speaker 4: anything to do with like those struggles. I think that 354 00:16:44,520 --> 00:16:47,160 Speaker 4: there's a lot of things that go into playing really 355 00:16:47,160 --> 00:16:51,080 Speaker 4: well in this game and playing poorly. It just seemed 356 00:16:51,080 --> 00:16:55,880 Speaker 4: like I was just a click behind the arsenal in 357 00:16:55,960 --> 00:17:00,520 Speaker 4: the West at the time, and it's me a while 358 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:03,800 Speaker 4: to get used. It was so different like sinkers and 359 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:07,960 Speaker 4: like change ups and the NLS and and the West. 360 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:11,600 Speaker 4: It was like cutters and tur balls and spin ray fastballs, 361 00:17:12,640 --> 00:17:15,080 Speaker 4: so things things kind of changed in regards to like 362 00:17:15,119 --> 00:17:18,119 Speaker 4: the division I was facing and understanding how they were 363 00:17:18,119 --> 00:17:19,800 Speaker 4: going to attack me, and it took me a little 364 00:17:19,800 --> 00:17:21,000 Speaker 4: bit to get accustomed to. 365 00:17:21,080 --> 00:17:21,240 Speaker 1: That. 366 00:17:21,720 --> 00:17:23,600 Speaker 4: Kind of felt the same thing going on in Cleveland 367 00:17:23,600 --> 00:17:27,040 Speaker 4: this year, but me getting back on the East with 368 00:17:27,119 --> 00:17:28,840 Speaker 4: this trade I think helped a ton. I was like, 369 00:17:28,840 --> 00:17:30,960 Speaker 4: all right, I know these guys to face these guys before, 370 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:33,600 Speaker 4: Like they have their arsenal that I know, and I'm 371 00:17:33,640 --> 00:17:34,800 Speaker 4: just gonna attack them this way. 372 00:17:35,320 --> 00:17:38,000 Speaker 3: Are Fred The Marls I think did have some interest 373 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:40,120 Speaker 3: in you into your free agency last year. 374 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:42,680 Speaker 2: What was it about Cleveland that attracted you so much? 375 00:17:42,840 --> 00:17:46,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, So my wife was pregnant with our second daughter. 376 00:17:46,359 --> 00:17:48,520 Speaker 4: We have two hunder two right now, and she's from 377 00:17:48,560 --> 00:17:52,040 Speaker 4: like an hour outside of Cleveland, So like Cleveland called 378 00:17:52,080 --> 00:17:54,040 Speaker 4: and I was like, hey, yeah, we're like interested in and 379 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:55,639 Speaker 4: she's like I don't care what they offer, like just 380 00:17:55,680 --> 00:17:58,600 Speaker 4: sign it. We're going there. And I was like, well 381 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:00,960 Speaker 4: don't you want She's like no, Like we're gonna sign it. 382 00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:02,880 Speaker 4: So I was like, okay, I'll do like short term deal, 383 00:18:03,119 --> 00:18:06,280 Speaker 4: like we'll get there like have baby girl, like have 384 00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:10,920 Speaker 4: help have her family right around the corner, and you know, 385 00:18:11,040 --> 00:18:12,439 Speaker 4: now I'm here in Miami. So it was like a 386 00:18:12,480 --> 00:18:13,200 Speaker 4: win win for both. 387 00:18:14,480 --> 00:18:16,520 Speaker 1: During free agency, what were do discussions like with Fine 388 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:18,760 Speaker 1: and obviously whatever you could tell us. 389 00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:22,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, honestly, there were a few teams that reached out 390 00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:24,000 Speaker 4: like super early. It was like first week of the offseason. 391 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:26,240 Speaker 4: It was like the Pirates, it was the Marlins, I 392 00:18:26,280 --> 00:18:28,080 Speaker 4: want to say, like the Red Sox were reaching out. 393 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:31,880 Speaker 4: But I don't think anything like gain Traction. I think 394 00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:36,159 Speaker 4: that the whole market was still really high with you know, 395 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:39,840 Speaker 4: waiting on whether Judge was gonna go back to the Yankees, 396 00:18:39,920 --> 00:18:46,040 Speaker 4: like where Correa was gonna go. You have like so 397 00:18:46,080 --> 00:18:49,240 Speaker 4: many big names, Confordo was coming back, so like they 398 00:18:49,320 --> 00:18:53,160 Speaker 4: had like different people were waiting on. Okay, like if 399 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:58,439 Speaker 4: say Judge went to the Giants, then Korea would probably 400 00:18:58,520 --> 00:19:00,800 Speaker 4: end up on the Yankees and then it's like okay, 401 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:03,360 Speaker 4: so who ends up where. So we were just kind 402 00:19:03,359 --> 00:19:06,360 Speaker 4: of waiting to see how things were gonna end up 403 00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:09,120 Speaker 4: until Cleveland called and my wife kind of made the call, 404 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:10,960 Speaker 4: and I was like, all right, you are kind of 405 00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:14,119 Speaker 4: stressed on our little ones. They're like all over the place, 406 00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:18,240 Speaker 4: but it's it's been a lot of fun and everything 407 00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:18,800 Speaker 4: for a reason. 408 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:21,760 Speaker 1: I guess leading up to the deadline with Cleveland, did 409 00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:23,239 Speaker 1: you kind of see yourself thick thought, did you ever 410 00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:26,239 Speaker 1: have any conversations about that possibility, given that, you know, 411 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:28,919 Speaker 1: kind of Minnesota's already up the into the division you 412 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:31,440 Speaker 1: got you were kind of struggling there and they had 413 00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:33,800 Speaker 1: just traded for Commins when they're you know, and they're 414 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:36,240 Speaker 1: thinking about putting them at a first pace forward. 415 00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:39,680 Speaker 4: I think before the Savali trade and no way shape 416 00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:41,920 Speaker 4: or formed, but I think that played well enough for 417 00:19:41,960 --> 00:19:46,720 Speaker 4: anybody to take a chance on me. After the Savali trade, 418 00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:49,680 Speaker 4: I thought that they would at least give us until 419 00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:51,399 Speaker 4: the end of the year to try for the division 420 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:53,920 Speaker 4: because we were half game back when I got traded 421 00:19:54,359 --> 00:19:57,159 Speaker 4: for first place, so it's like we had tons of 422 00:19:57,200 --> 00:19:59,760 Speaker 4: games left with the Twins. Like I felt like it 423 00:19:59,800 --> 00:20:04,399 Speaker 4: was right there for our taking, but you know it was. 424 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:08,280 Speaker 4: It was weird, like trade happened. You know, we had 425 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:11,480 Speaker 4: our little team meeting that was that next thing, I know, 426 00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:14,920 Speaker 4: next morning, I was up at four point thirty packing 427 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:17,520 Speaker 4: up my bag and getting on a flight over and 428 00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:21,560 Speaker 4: things didn't really hit until, you know, a few days later, 429 00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:24,919 Speaker 4: like calling the guys like like everything, get in the 430 00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:28,760 Speaker 4: clubhouse and stuff like that, and it seems like everything's 431 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:31,920 Speaker 4: good over there. They had, they have their work cut 432 00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:33,360 Speaker 4: out for them now, but I think they can turn 433 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:35,640 Speaker 4: things around and you know, hopefully take that division. 434 00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:38,800 Speaker 3: I guess we'll wrap up with some with five rapid 435 00:20:38,800 --> 00:20:43,480 Speaker 3: fire questions about the Marlins. Obviously, Number one is least 436 00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:45,400 Speaker 3: favorite ballpark to play yet. 437 00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:49,600 Speaker 4: I mean, it's tough because it's big leagues and it's 438 00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:56,680 Speaker 4: all pretty cool. I think that I'm not gonna do that. 439 00:20:56,760 --> 00:20:58,960 Speaker 4: I might be a free agents this offseason. I'm not 440 00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:00,800 Speaker 4: gonna go there. Minor league all parks are the ones 441 00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:01,320 Speaker 4: I don't like. 442 00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:04,680 Speaker 2: Favorite Major League moment for you personally. 443 00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:10,919 Speaker 4: Man, I think my first homer was Grand Slam. That's right, Yeah, 444 00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:12,400 Speaker 4: that was That was awesome. 445 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:15,080 Speaker 2: And then best dressed Marlin. 446 00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:19,440 Speaker 4: Jazz. I think Jazz pops into my first and foremost. 447 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:20,919 Speaker 2: Already you mentioned it. 448 00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:22,800 Speaker 3: You might be a free agent, you have a team 449 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:25,160 Speaker 3: player option for next season, has a team or you 450 00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:27,920 Speaker 3: approach each other about what you might be leaning towards 451 00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:28,320 Speaker 3: that option. 452 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:31,720 Speaker 4: No, No, I think it's it's a little early for that. Huh. 453 00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:32,040 Speaker 1: Yeah. 454 00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:33,600 Speaker 4: I think they want me to focus on the ball, 455 00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:35,359 Speaker 4: which I can appreciate it absolutely. 456 00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:37,399 Speaker 1: All right, Well, I think we can wrap it up here. Josh, 457 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:38,440 Speaker 1: thank you so much for the time. 458 00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:40,640 Speaker 2: We appreciate it. From Isaac, myself and Josh. 459 00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:42,920 Speaker 1: We'll see guys on in two weeks and go fish, 460 00:21:43,080 --> 00:22:03,240 Speaker 1: Go Fish.