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Speaker 1: It is the Jesse Kelly Show, another hour of The

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Speaker 1: Jesse Kelly Show. Reminding you you can email. You're asked

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Speaker 1: Doctor Jesse questions in right now, and you should don't

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Speaker 1: wait till tomorrow. Email right now Jesse at Jesse Kelly

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Speaker 1: Show dot com. Ask me anything. Friday's gonna be a

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Speaker 1: blast as it always is. Now for you new listeners,

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Speaker 1: I need to let you know something. Yes, I understand

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Speaker 1: it's a political radio show, and yes, you probably have

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Speaker 1: picked up by now. I go off on several little

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Speaker 1: sidebar tangents from time to time, but my hobby. I

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Speaker 1: don't really have very many hobbies. My hobby is history.

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Speaker 1: I am not a historian. I'm an uneducated rube, but

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Speaker 1: I geek out on history. So I watched documentaries and

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Speaker 1: I read books, and I watched documentaries and I read books.

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Speaker 1: You catch me alone on a Friday night, if the

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Speaker 1: I don't know why, but that's what I do. And

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Speaker 1: because I love history, I love to tell history stories.

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Speaker 1: Now you may love them or you may hate them,

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Speaker 1: really doesn't matter. I love them, so I'm going to

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Speaker 1: keep telling them from time to time. I used to

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Speaker 1: before the show went mega national. I don't have time

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Speaker 1: to do this every more anymore because it takes a

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Speaker 1: bunch of research. But I used to do a history

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Speaker 1: like our every show. It's not time for that now,

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Speaker 1: but I love it. And sometimes when politics has gotten

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Speaker 1: too ugly, it's just been too much, I just want

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Speaker 1: to tell a story now. Last night I was going

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Speaker 1: off about Secretary Austin about how he has no regrets

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Speaker 1: from Afghanistan. Memory when he said this, you said, you

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Speaker 1: executed the presidents or he didn't tell us what you

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Speaker 1: advised the president to do. But do you have regrets

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Speaker 1: about the withdrawal from Afghanistan? I support the presidents to suit.

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Speaker 1: Do you have regrets about their withdrawal or how the

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Speaker 1: withdrawal occurred from afghan stand the costs of life of

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Speaker 1: thirteen of our service members. I don't have any regrets.

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Speaker 1: And I brought up the Battle of Kenney, and I

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Speaker 1: realized that that was probably a mistake when I checked

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Speaker 1: the emails and a bunch of people don't know what

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Speaker 1: that is. I made the mistake that I get so

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Speaker 1: mad at other people for making I said something and

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Speaker 1: assumed that everybody had read up on it. Everyone kind

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Speaker 1: ready for some history? I want you to imagine something.

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Speaker 1: I want you to imagine you and ten of your

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Speaker 1: friends get swords in your hands, right, and you're standing

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Speaker 1: imagine what it would be like to hear the beginning

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Speaker 1: when you can barely see in the dust is in

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Speaker 1: to hear your friends die as they get cut down

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Speaker 1: Scary right now, Hang on a second, let's set this

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Speaker 1: up before we get there. I hope you've heard of

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Speaker 1: the Punic Wars. If you have not, here's what they were, Chris.

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Speaker 1: I know you have. You been doing this with me

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Speaker 1: The Punic Wars everyone knows what ancient Roman is. I'm

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Speaker 1: not know it is before Rome was taken over by emperors,

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Speaker 1: enough on Rome. Yes, they were majorly powerful. They they'd

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Speaker 1: you know, some afterthought. Carthage, Now, what is Carthage? What

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Speaker 1: feet and elephants. If you're Hannibal. Hannibal decided he was

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Speaker 1: But either way, Hannibal does get through the Alps, and

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Speaker 1: And he gets out of the Alps and there's a

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Speaker 1: It's just in my bones. I don't why I despise thieves.

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Speaker 1: I despise thievery. I really hate the whole cyber crime

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Speaker 1: Will let you look for free. They give it away free.

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Speaker 1: jesse go do it. Let's do some more history. Hang on.

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Speaker 1: He doesn't care if you believe him, but he's right,

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Speaker 1: Jesse Kelly, it is the Jesse Kelly Show, and it

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Speaker 1: is a Thursday, and it is history time. Well used

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Speaker 1: to be a political show, but that was last hour.

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Speaker 1: And now we're telling the story about the Battle of Knee,

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Speaker 1: So Hannibal gets through the outs and he smashes a

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Speaker 1: Hannibal was maybe the greatest tactical general in the history

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Speaker 1: so bad. This sucks so bad. The elephants. They never

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Speaker 1: you can't have the center flank or you're in very,

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Speaker 1: very very deep trouble. So Hannibal puts his weakest troops

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Speaker 1: in the middle, puts them out in front, and then

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Speaker 1: he stays with them, him and his brother Mago. Well,

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Speaker 1: the Romans lick their chops. The Romans amass extra troops

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Speaker 1: in their middle because they see what Hannibal has done,

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Speaker 1: and they say to themselves, oh my gosh, look at

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Speaker 1: this freaking idiot. I guess Hannibal got stupid last night. Guys.

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Speaker 1: Let's just take our hammer of an army and smash

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Speaker 1: it through his weak center. Set him on back to Carthin's.

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Speaker 1: That's the play man. The battle begins. Now, there's some

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Speaker 1: other cavalry things going on, and those were pretty vicious,

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Speaker 1: but just set those aside. It's not that important really.

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Speaker 1: For the end of it. The Roman army pushes forward

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Speaker 1: and they hammer into Hannibal's center, remember the part that's

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Speaker 1: pointing out, and that center begins to pull back because

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Speaker 1: they have to the being pushed back. These are the

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Speaker 1: weakest troops facing the Roman legion. They're being pushed back

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Speaker 1: and pushed back and push back and push back. So

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Speaker 1: you're picturing this arrow tip right, and picture it getting

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Speaker 1: flatter and flatter and flatters. That making sense as the

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Speaker 1: Roman army pushes. But as the Roman army is pushing

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Speaker 1: the center, remember the center is the part that's giving

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Speaker 1: way the flanks where Hannibal's best troops are. They were

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Speaker 1: staying solidly where they were because it was his best troops.

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Speaker 1: Now the Roman army can sense this too, and they

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Speaker 1: begin to amass even more in the center because they're

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Speaker 1: pushing towards the weakest part. So they're pushing and pushing

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Speaker 1: and pushing. Soon that arrow is no longer an arrow.

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Speaker 1: Soon it's a flat line. And then it begins it

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Speaker 1: keeps pushing the other way. Now you've got to divot.

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Speaker 1: Now you've got a dimple in your line, and Hannibals

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Speaker 1: in trouble, isn't he? Only Hannibal is not in trouble

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Speaker 1: at all. You see, this was the plan and all

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Speaker 1: along as we finished this off, and I'm going to

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Speaker 1: finish it off in a second. You should know this.

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Speaker 1: This is studied to this day in every war college,

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Speaker 1: in every nation on the planet. They study what Hannibal

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Speaker 1: did here. It's not even thought to be possible what

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Speaker 1: he did, but he did it, and it's amazing. We'll

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Speaker 1: wrap that up and it'll only take me a couple

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Speaker 1: of minutes. We'll talk about the Ivy League, Nashville Shooter,

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Speaker 1: the Air Force, and more before we get to that.

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Speaker 1: You know what the Romans needed that day, Chris. They

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Speaker 1: didn't need what Chris. They didn't need better generals, they

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Speaker 1: didn't need better strategy. They needed a mantis x it.

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Speaker 1: What if the Romans had been practicing with it. Does

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Speaker 1: mantis Sex have something for the spear, Chris. I don't

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Speaker 1: think they actually have something for the spear, but they

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Speaker 1: probably would create something for the spear. And I bet

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Speaker 1: mantis Sex would do for the Romans what they've done

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Speaker 1: for the Green Berets and what they've done for you.

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Speaker 1: They would have allowed the Romans to do their spear

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Speaker 1: practice at home and get real feedback. Oh, Roman, that

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Speaker 1: was a bad throw. Try again with your spear. That's

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Speaker 1: what Manti sex does for you. With your firearm. You

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Speaker 1: take your weapon and you practice in your work, you

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Speaker 1: practice in your home, You practice wherever's not going to

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Speaker 1: get you fired or in trouble because you're dry fire

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Speaker 1: practicing and mantis sex is giving you feedback. See, you'll

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Speaker 1: find out why you're pushing your shots. They'll put you

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Speaker 1: through drills. The Romans would find out why that sword

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Speaker 1: slash wasn't good enough and you should do better next time.

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Speaker 1: Either way, you could probably say the Romans lost the

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Speaker 1: Battle of Knee because of the lack of mantis X.

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Speaker 1: You won't lack mantis x though, because you're gonna go

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Speaker 1: buy one right now. You might just find yourself getting

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Speaker 1: to be a lot better shot. You will having fun

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Speaker 1: with your family, having a healthy way to relieve stress.

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Speaker 1: That's what mantis x does. Go to mantis x dot com.

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Speaker 1: All right, mantis x dot com, you go get yours. Also,

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Speaker 1: do not forget tomorrow's ask doctor Jesse Friday. Get your

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Speaker 1: questions emailed in now to Jesse at Jesse Kelly show

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Speaker 1: dot com. Hang on, you're listening to the Oracle one

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Speaker 1: screen Baby the Jesse Kelly Show. It is the Jesse

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Speaker 1: Kelly Show, about to wrap up the second hour of

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Speaker 1: The Jesse Kelly Show. And yes again I've been going

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Speaker 1: off on history, which may seem like a weird thing

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Speaker 1: to do on the day of the Trump and diet

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Speaker 1: Man and everything else. This Stay calm, None of this

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Speaker 1: is a surprise. Remember, stay calm. Do not go to

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Speaker 1: a blue area in protest. Stay calm. All right, all

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Speaker 1: this will all this will work out in the end. Now,

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Speaker 1: let's finish up our story. The Battle of Kenney. Hannibal

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Speaker 1: has his army being pushed back in the middle because

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Speaker 1: that's where he put his weak troops, and the Romans

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Speaker 1: get a little too ahead of themselves and they amass

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Speaker 1: in the middle. One try to push him back, but

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Speaker 1: remember all that dust in the beginning, and the confusion

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Speaker 1: and the violence and screaming and yelling that old ancient

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Speaker 1: combat would have been. Hannibal has his flanks start working

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Speaker 1: their way around the Romans, slowly making a circle around

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Speaker 1: the Romans. Eventually, the Romans, too late, figure out what's happening,

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Speaker 1: and they find their eighty six thousand troops surrounded completely

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Speaker 1: surrounded by fifty thousand Carthaginian troops and it's over. Only

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00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:53,200
Speaker 1: it's not over. The horror begins. People ask me like

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Speaker 1: I like, you know Tomorrow's asked doctor Jesse Friday Jesse

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Speaker 1: at Jesse Kelly show dot com. But people ask me,

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Speaker 1: I'll get a lot of the what's the worst place

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Speaker 1: you would ever be in history? What's a moment? The look?

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Speaker 1: That's a long list. That's a long list. Being a

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Speaker 1: Roman soldier at the center of this Battle of Kenee

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Speaker 1: has got to be up there. You think what your

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Speaker 1: mind would be going through. You were surrounded, You know

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Speaker 1: you're surrounded, You're panicking. You would of course be panicking,

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Speaker 1: and everyone around you is being hacked to death, and

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Speaker 1: it's getting closer and closer and closer to you. You

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Speaker 1: can't see. The dust would be horrible, it would be

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Speaker 1: almost impossible to see. You'd be thirsty, you'd be scared,

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Speaker 1: they say. According to the ancient writers, by the time

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Speaker 1: the Carthaginians hacked their way into the middle took them

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Speaker 1: all day. As you can imagine, no matter how many

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Speaker 1: people you have, it would take some time to kill

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Speaker 1: eighty six. Well, they didn't kill eighty six thousand, they'd

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Speaker 1: become about seventy thousand. But by the time they got

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Speaker 1: to the end, the time they got to the center

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Speaker 1: Roman troops, some of them had lost their minds in

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Speaker 1: fear so badly that they had dropped their weapons and

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Speaker 1: dug holes in the ground, a little mini hole in

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Speaker 1: the ground. With their hands just kind of scraped out

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Speaker 1: a hole in the ground and stuck their heads in

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Speaker 1: it and pushed the dirt back in and smothered themselves

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Speaker 1: to death. The Battle of Knee It is studied to

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Speaker 1: this day, and it's not supposed to be possible to

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Speaker 1: surround a larger army with the smaller army, but Hannibal

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Speaker 1: pulled it off. Should be noted that Hannibal did think

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Speaker 1: that that was going to be it. A bunch of

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Speaker 1: those city states that Hannibal did want to recruit to

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Speaker 1: his side did come over to his side after it,

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Speaker 1: so it really didn't look like it was it. But

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Speaker 1: the Romans just had this thing where they just never surrendered.

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Speaker 1: This said, no, we're not going to surrender. The Romans

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Speaker 1: had no army left, as you can imagine, they started

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Speaker 1: putting criminals and slaves and things like that into their

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Speaker 1: army just trying to get some weapons in some people's hands.

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Speaker 1: They were burying people alive. To their gods, they were

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Speaker 1: so panicked they thought he was going to march on Rome.

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Speaker 1: But that, ladies and gentlemen, it's the Battle of Kenney.

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Speaker 1: Do you enjoy that? I enjoyed that. What are we

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Speaker 1: gonna do sit and scream about Trump's indictment for three hours?

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Speaker 1: We knew he was going to be indicted. We know

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Speaker 1: what's a political persecution. We know it's all a sham.

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Speaker 1: There's nothing to be done. He's going to get out

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Speaker 1: of this, hopefully. But look, I warned you how long

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Speaker 1: ago did I wanted? I warned you last year that

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Speaker 1: Trump needed to worry about New York City. Everyone was

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Speaker 1: worried about the DOJ and the FEDS, and I warned

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Speaker 1: you all you should focus on New York City. And

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Speaker 1: part of the reason I said that was in New

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Speaker 1: York City there's nobody, there's no entity, there's no level

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Speaker 1: of state government that can even attempt to hold any

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Speaker 1: of these people accountable. If you're Merritt Garland, you're the

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Speaker 1: Attorney General of the United States of America, yes, you

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Speaker 1: can indict Trump, and he still might. I'm not saying

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Speaker 1: he won't. You can indict Trump, you can get out

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00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:17,279
Speaker 1: of control, you can go after school born parents. You

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00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:20,360
Speaker 1: could do all these things. But you still, at some

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Speaker 1: point in time, are obligated to go sit in front

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Speaker 1: of the United States Senate and have Republican senators blasted

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Speaker 1: you over and over and over and over again. Alvin

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Speaker 1: Bragg of New York City doesn't have to worry about that.

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Speaker 1: Alvin Bragg has nobody who can hold him accountable. I've

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Speaker 1: been telling you to get out of the blue areas

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Speaker 1: for a while. This is not the end. This is

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00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:48,320
Speaker 1: another reason I haven't made my whole show about it,

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Speaker 1: and I won't. We're actually getting ready to move on

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00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:51,880
Speaker 1: here in a second, talk about Ivy League schools and stuff.

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Speaker 1: This is not the end. This is the beginning. Today

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Speaker 1: it's Alvin Bragg. How many thousands of Alvin Brags are

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Speaker 1: graduating from the elite law schools this year and then

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Speaker 1: next year, and then next year and then next year.

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Speaker 1: How many of them will go become DA's solely because

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Speaker 1: they want to persecute and prosecute their political opponents, and

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Speaker 1: then they'll become judges one day. This is what the

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Speaker 1: future of America looks like. This is why I've been

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Speaker 1: telling you, uncomfortable as it may be, Balkanize, get out

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Speaker 1: of your blue area, get to a red area, and

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Speaker 1: then fortify your red area, because the red area is

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00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:36,240
Speaker 1: probably full of pillows, soft goopiers who haven't been taking

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Speaker 1: their male vitality stack from chalk. Nobody needs a twenty

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Speaker 1: percent increase in their testosterone in ninety days, worse than

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Speaker 1: the GOP. Because you know what the response to this

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00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:50,800
Speaker 1: should be, right, it's not whining about it. It's not

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Speaker 1: going to New York City and protesting like some moron

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Speaker 1: who's begging to get locked up. You know what the

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Speaker 1: response should be. A Republican ag somewhere in this country.

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Speaker 1: Go find a Democrat, congressman, senator, whatever it may be,

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Speaker 1: and arrest him and that him and arrest him. Jesseby,

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Speaker 1: we can't do that, but we're gonna be like them. Okay,

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Speaker 1: then you're gonna lose. That's not how it works. The communist,

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Speaker 1: because he is a religious sell it. It only understands

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Speaker 1: fear and pain. But because the GOP lacks testosterone, they won't.

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Speaker 1: You know what they'll do. You'll see this for the

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Speaker 1: next twenty four or forty eight hours. They'll talk about

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Speaker 1: hypocrisy and why it's not right and why it's not fair,

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Speaker 1: and this is a political persecution and offer that you

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Speaker 1: know what, the GOP will get same thing you've always gotten.

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Speaker 1: Those who broke the laws will be held to account.

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Speaker 1: But this cannot be and it will not be a

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Speaker 1: tit for tat exercise of course, not going to lower this.

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Speaker 1: The GOP will not only not respond in kind. The GOP,

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00:36:56,600 --> 00:37:02,279
Speaker 1: so lacking testosterone, will brag about not responding in kind. Look,

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Speaker 1: we're better than that, guys, We're not doing it to them. Boy,

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Speaker 1: that's really inspiring the communist to back off. The communist

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Speaker 1: has never and will never look at your good conduct

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Speaker 1: and say to himself, Wow, he seems like a good dude.

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Speaker 1: I think I'm gonna back off. He's not doing it

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Speaker 1: to me. I should back off. Guys, you're either going

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Speaker 1: to hurt him back with your own political persecutions or

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Speaker 1: this goes on and on and on, and it increases

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Speaker 1: from here. Hey, gopags and governors, if you need help,

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