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Speaker 1: home of the Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Good afternoon, Steeler Nation. It's The Drive on the Steelers

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Speaker 2: Audio Network. West Shooler and Matt Williamson with you here

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Speaker 2: for the next two hours on this Tuesday. What's up, Matthew?

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Speaker 2: How we doing?

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Speaker 3: Good man? How are you pretty good?

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Speaker 2: God? We peeling back the curtain. We had some pre

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Speaker 2: production meetings before the show today talking about our schedule

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Speaker 2: for next week. Yeah, because Saturday, Matt and I will

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Speaker 2: be flying out to Phoenix, Arizona in anticipation of the

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Speaker 2: NFL Owners meetings that begin on Sunday, and so we

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Speaker 2: will have a bonus edition of The Drive for you

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Speaker 2: on Sunday and then a few days there early in

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Speaker 2: the week where we will be broadcasting from the owners

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Speaker 2: meetings in Arizona. So we'll be a little different, be

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Speaker 2: a little wonky, but we'll.

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Speaker 3: Also they're also three hour shows.

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Speaker 2: It was just gonna say much like, uh, it feels

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Speaker 2: like anytime we leave the studio, that's the case, right,

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Speaker 2: pretty much? Yeah, training camp OTAs the combine the draft, uh,

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Speaker 2: and we will have a So the schedule will be

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Speaker 2: a little different. It will still be airon same time

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Speaker 2: you get us here, you can still wherever you consume

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Speaker 2: us here live on SNR podcast YouTube. It'll all still

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Speaker 2: be the same, but we.

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Speaker 3: Will have don't forget about the Sunday one.

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Speaker 2: We will have the Sunday Show a little bonus for you,

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Speaker 2: and we will be doing three hours out there on location,

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Speaker 2: so it'll be fun. It'll be hot, Matt. We're looking

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Speaker 2: at the weather. It's like in the every single day.

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Speaker 3: It sounds great right now, but that by about Tuesday,

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Speaker 3: I might be sweating puddles.

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Speaker 2: But who knows, by Tuesday will be like, all right,

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Speaker 2: we're some pasty Northeast, get us back home. But right

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Speaker 2: now it sounds fantastic because I think it was like

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Speaker 2: nineteen degrees this morning when I was.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the mornings and evenings are still really chilly, but

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Speaker 2: know isn't great but isn't terrible. But yeah, we're really

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Speaker 2: looking forward to that. So a lot of moving and

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Speaker 2: shaking coming down the pipeline here on the drive. But

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Speaker 2: that will be kicking off on Sunday as we'll have

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Speaker 2: all your coverage that you expect and bonus coverage from

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Speaker 2: the twenty twenty six NFL Owners' meetings. Matt Little News

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Speaker 2: of the day to get us started. And yesterday, Hey

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Speaker 2: stop me if you haven't heard this yet, but the

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Speaker 2: Steelers don't have an answer from Aaron Rodgers just quite

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Speaker 2: yet yet. I'm not sure if everybody knew that, right.

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Speaker 2: That's been discussed, That's been discussed much of this offseason.

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Speaker 2: But yesterday just an interesting kind of I don't know,

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Speaker 2: moment in the timeline of this Aaron Rodgers Part two

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Speaker 2: soga okay, And yesterday Mike McCarthy was in Green Bay

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Speaker 2: because they were having a celebration of life there at

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Speaker 3: Packers, and it was mc.

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Speaker 2: By Kevin Harlan, the famous broadcast NFL game in March

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Speaker 2: Madness games here. And I know that this isn't what

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Speaker 3: He's like a Hall of Fame type guy. Yes, yeah, oh.

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Speaker 2: He's He does NFL, he does college March Madness stuff.

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Speaker 2: And Mike McCarthy said it would be a great story.

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Speaker 2: But I don't think that it wasn't shut the door.

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Speaker 2: Water on the fire of it feels like Aaron Rodgers

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Speaker 3: Of optimistic ish and an.

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Speaker 2: Optimistic ish kind of open door answer. He didn't try

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Speaker 2: water on the fire. He didn't confirm it, But I

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Speaker 2: think his comments were more on that side of the aisle.

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Speaker 2: I just thought that was a notable thing to open

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think so too. I mean, like you said,

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Speaker 3: have sprinkled a little bit of gasoline or accelerant on there,

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Speaker 3: you know, a little bit of kerosene something doesn't burn

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Speaker 3: quite as hot as gasoline. Definitely did not squash it

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Speaker 3: at all. Aaron Rodgers might not know the answer. I mean,

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Speaker 3: he's he could be still thinking it over. I've been

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Speaker 3: I'm looking at the puzzle as if that's already in place.

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Speaker 2: I'm with you on that one. Yeah, I hope it

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Speaker 3: Use the word as saga, and I'm like, I hope

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Speaker 3: it's not a saga. You know, I don't want to

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Speaker 2: To be fair, this is around the time that it

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Speaker 2: We do in this bit we do the Bracketbusters March

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Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, so we're supposed to be.

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Speaker 2: Doing like this three hour college basketball show that just

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and this is sort of a side note, but

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Speaker 3: segues into the next move or reported move. I think

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Speaker 3: that's the only likely veteran addition between now and the draft.

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Speaker 3: I think they might be done at all the other

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Speaker 3: with them or whatever. But I think they're pretty much done.

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Speaker 3: Although I didn't see the home re move coming. But

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Speaker 3: I don't think that there's gonna be in the market

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Speaker 2: Yes, because you and I that does. That does transition

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we've been kind of waiting to discuss him because they.

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Speaker 3: Were rumored forever. Two weeks ago.

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Speaker 2: The report's first surfaced about brockh Hoffman, but then there

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Speaker 2: was some water thrown on that. Yeah, like just be patient.

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Speaker 2: Nothing's official yet. Nothing's official yet, But now it's being

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Speaker 2: widely reported by you know, the people that cover the Steelers.

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Speaker 3: It's not one dot com yet, so it's not that's.

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Speaker 2: Exactly That's that's what we go by, is it's officially

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Speaker 2: I've seen a lot of people that you and I

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Speaker 2: the Post, the national people, the Post. Zett is reporting

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Speaker 2: The Steelers have agreed to terms with brock Hoffman, twenty

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Speaker 2: six year old offensive lineman.

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Speaker 3: I love this move. This is one of my favorite

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Speaker 3: offseason moves thus far. And my only criticism of it

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Speaker 3: getting in this young man, and he still is young

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Speaker 3: and is improving. He's very physical. I mean he's not

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Speaker 3: not They signed Alan Fanica. Guys. You know, I mean,

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Speaker 3: he's a good player, but he's probably for depth or

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Speaker 3: has experience at all three of those positions.

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Speaker 2: That's what you're looking for.

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Speaker 3: Most of his experiences at center, he won't get that here.

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Speaker 3: But he's a very very valuable backup center who I

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Speaker 3: matter what. And if Rasier were to go down, we

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Speaker 3: keep knocking, knocking, knocking, you know, he would slide right

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Speaker 3: over obviously. I think as it stands today, he would

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Speaker 2: If we had to play a game Sunday.

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Speaker 3: Again with only the people on the roster today, and

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Speaker 3: we have a whole draft ahead of us, and you

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Speaker 3: and I keep talking about early round O lineman.

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Speaker 2: Or at least second round, early round for sure, but

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Speaker 2: I guess that's still falls yeh category.

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Speaker 3: And I would not that would It's not a big

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Speaker 3: enough signing where I would not go after Venga or

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Speaker 3: an early round lineman in any way. Now, it might

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Speaker 3: be enough if it's Venga versus Tackle that can start

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Speaker 3: a guard, you know what I mean. So that's a

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Speaker 3: different conversation. But a buddy of mine I do locked

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Speaker 3: on Dynasty, which is a podcast or a fantasy podcast.

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Speaker 3: I'm on every Wednesday. I started it and then you know,

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Speaker 3: I'm only a part time tim are now, but Marcus

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Speaker 3: will talk to him tomorrow again about this. But I

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Speaker 3: talked to him and the reason I'm bringing Marcus Mosher

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Speaker 3: he's locked on Cowboys and so he's that's his team.

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Speaker 3: He's dialed in, happens to live like an ear, so

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Speaker 3: he kind.

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Speaker 2: Of gets the Steelers world a lot.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but we talk once a week and he's a

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Speaker 3: doesn't just do it from his basement like he knows

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Speaker 3: the Cowboys stuff. But anyway, when this was originally rumored,

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Speaker 3: And not to discredit some of the other sign but

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Speaker 2: It's what we've been what we've been waiting for, And

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Speaker 2: That's the news of the day, just getting started here

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Speaker 2: And Matt, with that, we've got some I think housekeeping

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Really, Hey, at some point in the next couple of

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Speaker 3: This web it out. Yeah, we'll go do it.

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Speaker 2: You pick the champion to repeat, or you pick the

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Speaker 3: I just talked through it all. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I like the field at this point.

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Speaker 2: We're still waiting on the draft. We're still waiting on

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Speaker 3: I don't think I mentioned this to you, but two

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Speaker 3: outsiders that are out at atn FTN. They every year

438
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Speaker 3: they put out their age. Yeah, the average age of

439
00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:10,959
Speaker 3: every team. You know. They they went back and they

440
00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:14,840
Speaker 3: looked at every snap how many days old they were.

441
00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:17,000
Speaker 3: They really break it down and they break it down

442
00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:20,200
Speaker 3: by position, like the Steelers are really old at quarterbacks

443
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Speaker 3: and that that can obviously inflate you know, your your

444
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Speaker 3: age related thing. And they also do injuries, which is

445
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Speaker 3: really good too. Who are the most injured teams? Who

446
00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:32,840
Speaker 3: are the most injured defenses. I'll send you all that stuff,

447
00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:36,080
Speaker 3: but that they're good segments and maybe even multiple segments.

448
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Speaker 2: Love it. That sounds good. Yeah, that sounds good to me.

449
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Speaker 3: Well, I didn't realize this that the Cardinals were like

450
00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:45,119
Speaker 3: historically injured last year. Just looks at them like, oh,

451
00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:47,080
Speaker 3: they were terrible, And they were, and they probably would

452
00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:48,800
Speaker 3: have been anyways. But oh, by the way, I also

453
00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:49,879
Speaker 3: got crushed by injuries.

454
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Speaker 2: Maybe they'd be picking ninth instead.

455
00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:54,560
Speaker 3: Two more games wins or something, right, right, right.

456
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Speaker 2: So Matt, let's start, you know what, Let's do this.

457
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Speaker 2: Let's start with the uh well, wait a second, is

458
00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:06,359
Speaker 2: this Let's see this computer in here is so messed up.

459
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Speaker 2: I can't even get the divisions to pull up. You

460
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Speaker 2: want to start with the Let's start in the NFC

461
00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:13,680
Speaker 2: at the NFC West. That's fine, yeah, because that's where

462
00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:18,280
Speaker 2: the reigning Super Bowl champions are Seattle, Okay, and they

463
00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:21,040
Speaker 2: were remembered down to the wire. They were the division

464
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Speaker 2: champions last year, despite you know, having to hold off

465
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Speaker 2: de Niners and having to hold off the ram Yeah,

466
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Speaker 2: that was a battle until late into the season. What

467
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Speaker 2: do we think about the NFC West.

468
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Speaker 3: I think the Cardinals are distant last. I mean, so

469
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Speaker 3: there's some divisions you can do that with. So I

470
00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:41,160
Speaker 3: think it's a three horse race. I think Seattle has gotten.

471
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Speaker 3: I don't say noticeably worse, but worse. I mean the

472
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Speaker 3: Super Bowl version is better than the March twenty fourth version,

473
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Speaker 3: which is very common for the It is you know,

474
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Speaker 3: then they just invested in Smith and Jaboa, you know.

475
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Speaker 2: Right, get better or even plateaus.

476
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Speaker 3: It is. It is because you're the hunted. The Ms

477
00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:03,840
Speaker 3: are noticeably better though, and for much of the year

478
00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:05,800
Speaker 3: I thought the Rams were better than the Seahawks. It

479
00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:08,400
Speaker 3: didn't go their way at the end, but I think

480
00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:10,119
Speaker 3: they probably when it was all said and done, were

481
00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:13,320
Speaker 3: the best two teams of twenty twenty five start to finish,

482
00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:16,280
Speaker 3: and San Franz never going away. I mean, there's just

483
00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:20,600
Speaker 3: a Shanahan thing. They're just always, you know, someone to

484
00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:24,040
Speaker 3: worry about. I wouldn't say they're noticeably better or worse.

485
00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:26,159
Speaker 3: I kind of think they're somewhat the same. But they

486
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Speaker 3: do get Warner and Bosa like two of their biggest guys.

487
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Speaker 2: They didn't have it all last which year, which is

488
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Speaker 2: very massive.

489
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Speaker 3: So I think you have to say I would bet

490
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Speaker 3: the field over the champ Yes, because I might just

491
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Speaker 3: pick the Rams straight out.

492
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Speaker 2: I would probably do the same, but I would definitely

493
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Speaker 2: take the field. Yeah, I do. I'm a little concerned

494
00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:46,640
Speaker 2: with San Francisco. I under they're getting two big pieces

495
00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:49,080
Speaker 2: back on the defense, but they did lose Robert Sala,

496
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Speaker 2: which seemed like such a massive part of what they

497
00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:54,119
Speaker 2: did there. But I still think they're going to be

498
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Speaker 2: a contending type team.

499
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Speaker 3: Yeah. I also don't know what quite's going on with

500
00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:01,879
Speaker 3: Trent Williams and his contract, and Kittle got hurt really

501
00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:05,680
Speaker 3: late in the year. McCaffrey's a year older. Yeah, I

502
00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:07,480
Speaker 3: don't think Ayu's gonna be in the mix, not that

503
00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:10,120
Speaker 3: he was last year, but there's some uncertainty on offense.

504
00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:12,359
Speaker 3: Throw Mike Evans in though, that's not so bad, you know,

505
00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:14,520
Speaker 3: But I think you'd have to because I think i'd

506
00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:16,960
Speaker 3: probably picked the Rams to win the division, so I

507
00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:19,119
Speaker 3: definitely have to would take have to take the field.

508
00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:20,720
Speaker 2: But I'm with you, though might have been the two

509
00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:22,919
Speaker 2: best teams in the league last year. In the same vision,

510
00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:26,840
Speaker 2: it was a heck of an NFC championship game. Yeah,

511
00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:28,399
Speaker 2: I think somebody, I think one of the hosts on

512
00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:30,400
Speaker 2: this show would rather watch the NFL Draft than watch

513
00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:36,720
Speaker 2: that NFC championship game. Yeah, we got maybe we'll revisit

514
00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:39,320
Speaker 2: that at our twins. We got some funny sweets about that.

515
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Speaker 2: I was thinking about that all last night. I literally

516
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Speaker 2: had that thought. I was like, so, wait, Matt. Matt's

517
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Speaker 2: basically saying he'd rather watched the draft than watch the

518
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Speaker 2: NFC championship game or the AFC championship game.

519
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Speaker 3: I guess those are close. But I mean, you walked

520
00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:55,120
Speaker 3: in here, well back to Kurt, and you're like, I'd

521
00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:57,800
Speaker 3: rather watch the draft than a regular season pirate game.

522
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Speaker 3: I'm like, I'd rather watch Payne Dry then regular season

523
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Speaker 3: pirate game.

524
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Speaker 2: I mean all night, because that was basically like, unless

525
00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:07,399
Speaker 2: it's a Steelers game, I'd rather watch the draft. And

526
00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:10,639
Speaker 2: so I'm like, Okay, I would rather watch the NFL

527
00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:14,840
Speaker 2: Draft than an NBA or an MLB regular season game,

528
00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:21,560
Speaker 2: world series different regular season obviously, obviously, but other than that,

529
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Speaker 2: if it's any true top level competition, if it's an

530
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Speaker 2: NFL game, hockey game, college at March Madness, college football playoff.

531
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Speaker 3: You're picking the game, the actual action action.

532
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Speaker 2: But maybe we'll revisit some of this because we did

533
00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:35,919
Speaker 2: get some funny tweets. Everyone I think thinks now that

534
00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:38,000
Speaker 2: I hate the draft. I like the draft. I just

535
00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:39,879
Speaker 2: don't love it like some watch.

536
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Speaker 3: I mean, it's a it's a weird spectator sport because

537
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Speaker 3: itself is.

538
00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:47,760
Speaker 2: When the season returns in September, I would rather watch

539
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Speaker 2: any Week one NFL game.

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Speaker 3: I totally understand. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean in terms

541
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Speaker 3: of what you're going to do for an hour or

542
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Speaker 3: ten hours or whatever.

543
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Speaker 2: Well, that's also the games are much shorter than the

544
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Speaker 2: three day event that is now the draft.

545
00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:02,679
Speaker 3: And there's obviously round one verse round seven is a

546
00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:04,800
Speaker 3: different planet. Obviously totally.

547
00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:06,240
Speaker 2: We did get some funny tweets about it.

548
00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:08,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll revisit that an hour two.

549
00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:10,520
Speaker 2: So let's go from probably the best division in football

550
00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:13,560
Speaker 2: last year to probably the worst, the NFC South.

551
00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:17,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, Carolina won it. I think you might even forget

552
00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:19,960
Speaker 3: these things. People might gheit that.

553
00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:22,680
Speaker 2: I think Carolina has had a pretty good offseason to

554
00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:23,280
Speaker 2: this point.

555
00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:26,240
Speaker 3: Too, too, And I think Tampa's going the wrong direction.

556
00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:28,000
Speaker 2: I think New Orleans is ascending.

557
00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:31,399
Speaker 3: Levonte David retired today too. He did a phenomenal career.

558
00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:32,600
Speaker 3: Good for him. I don't know if he'll go the

559
00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:35,359
Speaker 3: whole of fame, but he's definitely an easy ring of

560
00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:37,840
Speaker 3: honor type guy. You know, great career for the congratch

561
00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:38,200
Speaker 3: to him.

562
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Speaker 2: I think New Orleans is ascending. I think it's just

563
00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:43,440
Speaker 2: going the wrong direction. I think the Falcons are kind

564
00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:45,359
Speaker 2: of in between, and.

565
00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:47,520
Speaker 3: I don't think there's great vibes in Atlanta. I mean

566
00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:49,520
Speaker 3: they're kind of setting up. I mean, not to be

567
00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:52,919
Speaker 3: too nerdy, but their their salary cap really opens up

568
00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:56,160
Speaker 3: next year. So that's kind of a take your vegetables year.

569
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Speaker 2: Not quite to the Dolphin's extent, but similar.

570
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:00,960
Speaker 3: So this one's tough for me.

571
00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:02,600
Speaker 2: The two horse race for me, for the Saints and

572
00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:07,160
Speaker 2: the Panthers. Okay, I think the still they probably shouldn't

573
00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:08,320
Speaker 2: write the Bucks off completely.

574
00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:10,160
Speaker 3: No, they wanted like five years in a while.

575
00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:12,880
Speaker 2: They might have the best quarterback in that division if

576
00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:13,480
Speaker 2: Baker's help.

577
00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:17,360
Speaker 3: Probably, But I also could say Shuck is a year

578
00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:19,239
Speaker 3: from now. I mean, I could at least tell the

579
00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:22,800
Speaker 3: story where he gets noticeably better and everybody else kind

580
00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:23,520
Speaker 3: of stays the same.

581
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Speaker 2: I'm taking the field, as we talk it out, the.

582
00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:28,920
Speaker 3: Field's the smart bet, like it definitely would pay more

583
00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:32,760
Speaker 3: if you took Carolina if this was Vegas odds. But

584
00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:35,080
Speaker 3: if I had to pick one, I think I'd pick Carolina.

585
00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:38,040
Speaker 3: That's different than taking the field, you know what I mean.

586
00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:40,800
Speaker 2: Even more so the New Orleans is interesting.

587
00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:42,280
Speaker 3: They have a lot of holes, but I like to

588
00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:45,200
Speaker 3: go in the direction they're going. If the field's a

589
00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:48,719
Speaker 3: smart move, there's probably even odds on like Tampa, New

590
00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:51,560
Speaker 3: Orleans and Carolina, and therefore the fields.

591
00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:53,600
Speaker 2: Bet opposite of Seattle. We could, I think, make a

592
00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:55,760
Speaker 2: very easy argument that Carolina is better right now than

593
00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:56,720
Speaker 2: they work two months ago.

594
00:27:57,480 --> 00:28:00,800
Speaker 3: Yes, agreed, they're front sevens pretty darn good.

595
00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:00,959
Speaker 2: Now.

596
00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:02,240
Speaker 3: You had Lloyd and.

597
00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:09,760
Speaker 2: Phillips, NFC North Matt dub Bears breaking their drought. That was,

598
00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:11,560
Speaker 2: I mean, not crazy long, but I think about it

599
00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:13,720
Speaker 2: had been close to a decade since they had won

600
00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:17,639
Speaker 2: a division title. You got Green Bay hanging around and

601
00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:22,439
Speaker 2: loving Parsons hopefully being healthier. Sure, Detroit they're certainly not

602
00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:24,600
Speaker 2: the same beast that they were a couple of years ago,

603
00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:28,439
Speaker 2: but they're good. They're still good. And Minnesota, if Kyler

604
00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:31,840
Speaker 2: Murray has some type of career resurgence, could absolutely be

605
00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:34,919
Speaker 2: a factor. Yeah, this might be the hardest one to

606
00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:37,600
Speaker 2: pick because there's not a bad team in that there's

607
00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:39,360
Speaker 2: not a all they're only going to win three or four.

608
00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:42,160
Speaker 2: There's no Arizona in that division.

609
00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:44,720
Speaker 3: Yes, but I think you have to take the field. Yes,

610
00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:47,640
Speaker 3: I love where Chicago's at. They're ahead of schedule, and

611
00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:50,280
Speaker 3: I don't think it's fluky. Like a year ago, I

612
00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:52,640
Speaker 3: said Washington's ahead of schedule and they're going to bounce back,

613
00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:55,040
Speaker 3: and I was right. I don't think Chicago all of

614
00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:57,000
Speaker 3: a sudden is going to be a six win team,

615
00:28:57,160 --> 00:28:58,960
Speaker 3: and you know that was a fluke. They were ahead

616
00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:01,760
Speaker 3: of themselves at all. But the rest division is just

617
00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:04,320
Speaker 3: so strong. I mean, the chance is maybe they have

618
00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:07,040
Speaker 3: a thirty three percent chance to win the division, but

619
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Speaker 3: it's not over fifty. No, Yeah, because the rest of

620
00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:10,800
Speaker 3: the division is really good.

621
00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:11,400
Speaker 2: It's legit.

622
00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:13,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not even sure who I would pick at

623
00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:15,640
Speaker 3: this point, and there is a case that. I mean,

624
00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:19,080
Speaker 3: Minnesota is probably fourth, but I if you pick them

625
00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:20,400
Speaker 3: to win the division, I'll be like, I get it.

626
00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:22,560
Speaker 3: They won fifteen games a year before, and they the

627
00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:23,840
Speaker 3: worst quarterback play in the league.

628
00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:26,440
Speaker 2: They're fourth, but Matt, I think they're by far the

629
00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:30,200
Speaker 2: best fourth place team from twenty twenty five.

630
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:34,880
Speaker 3: You can probably say probably the best fourth place team

631
00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:38,440
Speaker 3: right now. Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, I would say so.

632
00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:40,040
Speaker 3: Most division has a stinker.

633
00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:42,160
Speaker 2: You know, most divisions have a stinker. Yeah, they've you know,

634
00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:45,600
Speaker 2: you got the Tennessee or Las Vegas or Arizona or Cleveland,

635
00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:49,400
Speaker 2: the Jets, you know, and the Dolphins. But this division

636
00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:51,720
Speaker 2: does not have a stinker, which makes it very tough

637
00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:56,160
Speaker 2: to predict. Somebody to repeat last, but certainly not least

638
00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:58,400
Speaker 2: in the NFC. It's the division that until the last

639
00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:01,280
Speaker 2: couple of years was impossible to predict because there was

640
00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:03,240
Speaker 2: what I think eleven or twelve straight years of a

641
00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:07,040
Speaker 2: different with not having back the back winners of the NFC.

642
00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:12,040
Speaker 2: East Philly obviously broke that streak. Philly has been I

643
00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:14,600
Speaker 2: think by far the best team in that division for

644
00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:16,040
Speaker 2: the last the last few years.

645
00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:18,720
Speaker 3: This most stable, strongest organization.

646
00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:20,080
Speaker 2: And they've been to two Super Bowls in the last

647
00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:22,320
Speaker 2: five years and three in the last eight or nine

648
00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:25,600
Speaker 2: years whatever it is now, I think the Cowboys are

649
00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:28,640
Speaker 2: the only real threat. I think Washington will be better,

650
00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:30,040
Speaker 2: but I'm still not going to pick them to win

651
00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:32,440
Speaker 2: the division. I mean, I think the Giants will be better,

652
00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:34,160
Speaker 2: but I'm definitely not picking them to win the division.

653
00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:37,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think Harbaugh helps that team a lot. I

654
00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:40,240
Speaker 3: might bring them closer to five hundred, and maybe they

655
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Speaker 3: go three and three in the division or something like that.

656
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Speaker 2: Maybe around Christmas they're still on the outside, but in

657
00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:47,280
Speaker 2: the hunt for a wild card.

658
00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:51,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, and maybe Dart looks like a dude. And Okay,

659
00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:54,960
Speaker 3: and Washington I think got a little better and was

660
00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:56,880
Speaker 3: just hard on them, But they were a final four

661
00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:59,480
Speaker 3: team a year ago. I mean that's not to be

662
00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:02,480
Speaker 3: laughed at. You know. I think this could be Dallas' year,

663
00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:04,360
Speaker 3: that they'd be the best they've been in a while,

664
00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:07,240
Speaker 3: and they've been kind of setting it up to do that.

665
00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:11,880
Speaker 3: Ye and Eagles lost some stuff O line coach decoordinated,

666
00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:16,280
Speaker 3: I mean some big stuff. You know. Yeah, they can't. No,

667
00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:18,760
Speaker 3: he did not know he rumbout. Yeah.

668
00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:21,560
Speaker 2: And the AJ Brown, I don't think.

669
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Speaker 3: He's going to be on the team in an opening day.

670
00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:27,360
Speaker 3: I think that's a post draft trade though.

671
00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:28,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so too.

672
00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:30,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, I trust him.

673
00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:33,760
Speaker 2: I feel like they are so volatile, But I've also

674
00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:35,360
Speaker 2: been saying that for two years now.

675
00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:38,200
Speaker 3: You've been right. I mean they have been volile. They

676
00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:40,280
Speaker 3: have these stretches where they look terrible for months and

677
00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:41,440
Speaker 3: then they win super Bowl.

678
00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:44,200
Speaker 2: You know, they've also won two division titles in the

679
00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:46,040
Speaker 2: Super Bowl in the last two years, so I guess

680
00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:49,680
Speaker 2: if that that is volatile, but it's good volatility. I

681
00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:50,320
Speaker 2: don't know.

682
00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:52,040
Speaker 3: Overall, the results are pretty.

683
00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:55,080
Speaker 2: Strong and I think that will continue. I don't know

684
00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:57,480
Speaker 2: if that superb Ale window for them is wide open anymore,

685
00:31:57,520 --> 00:31:59,760
Speaker 2: but I I certainly think they're still the best team

686
00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:02,040
Speaker 2: in the division. Boys will have a say in it.

687
00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:05,120
Speaker 3: They'll definitely have the shortest odds to win your division.

688
00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:08,280
Speaker 3: It's just is it enough to say you want the

689
00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:10,800
Speaker 3: other three year hint or the Eagles. I think I'll

690
00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:11,520
Speaker 3: take the Eagles.

691
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Speaker 2: I think so too. I don't think aj Brown is

692
00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:18,160
Speaker 2: on that ROSTERK I don't either. That just seems like

693
00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:20,960
Speaker 2: there's been too much smoke and there's got to be

694
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:21,720
Speaker 2: fire to that send.

695
00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:23,240
Speaker 3: I think the draft will tell us a lot, Like

696
00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:26,200
Speaker 3: if they take Lemon or Tyson or Boston or somebody

697
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:28,360
Speaker 3: like that, it's like, I don't think Brown's coming back.

698
00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:32,320
Speaker 2: That typically is the case. But if you were going

699
00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:34,000
Speaker 2: to take a wide receiver, hig wouldn't you want to

700
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:35,520
Speaker 2: try and move them before that so you would have

701
00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:37,440
Speaker 2: more leverage. I don't know, different conversation for a.

702
00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:39,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just know that there's some weird cap stuff

703
00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:43,400
Speaker 3: with his contract, and they're pretty smart and I give

704
00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:45,760
Speaker 3: maybe I give Howie too much credit. But if you

705
00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:48,080
Speaker 3: trade him after the draft, you can get picks for

706
00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:50,840
Speaker 3: next year's draft, which nobody wants to part with and

707
00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:52,760
Speaker 3: everybody wants.

708
00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:56,360
Speaker 2: Just a thought, Matt Williamson always got the I will

709
00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:58,719
Speaker 2: take a look at the AFC. To close down the

710
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Speaker 2: first hour of the show, Wes Shuler, Matt Williamson. It

711
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Speaker 2: is the Drive Steelers Nation Radio on the Steelers Audio Network.

712
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Speaker 3: What's up, NFL fans?

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Speaker 5: The NFL Draft is finally here, and while you might

714
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Speaker 1: You are tuned about Drive on your twenty four to

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Speaker 1: seven home of the Black and Goal.

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Speaker 4: Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Down the home stretch of the first hour of the show.

726
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Speaker 2: Here talking twenty twenty five NFL division winners and if

727
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:12,880
Speaker 2: they will repeat in twenty twenty six onto the AFC,

728
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Speaker 2: and let's start Matt in the AFC East with the

729
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Speaker 2: team who won the conference.

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Speaker 3: Was a fun one.

731
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Speaker 2: This is a fun one because it had been Buffalo,

732
00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:25,560
Speaker 2: this division has been Tom Brady owned it forever, right,

733
00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:27,560
Speaker 2: and then it was like past the baton to Josh

734
00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:29,600
Speaker 2: Allen and they won it for what six or seven

735
00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:30,280
Speaker 2: straight years?

736
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Speaker 3: And then now May character shows up.

737
00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:34,799
Speaker 2: May character shows up and all of a sudden, New

738
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Speaker 2: England back at it and won the division close where

739
00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:40,600
Speaker 2: we were to hold off the Buffalo Bills. I do

740
00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:42,960
Speaker 2: think Matt stopped me. If you disagree, but I think

741
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:45,800
Speaker 2: we can already right off the Jets and the Dolphins.

742
00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:47,080
Speaker 2: This potential division, which.

743
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:49,000
Speaker 3: I thought this was kind of an interesting conversation because

744
00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:51,799
Speaker 3: it's the only team with really two stinkers. I mean,

745
00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:54,719
Speaker 3: like could get first picking the draft stinkers even if

746
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:56,839
Speaker 3: everybody stays healthy on their team, Like.

747
00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:59,000
Speaker 2: They could both very easily be picking in the top three,

748
00:34:59,160 --> 00:34:59,680
Speaker 2: top five.

749
00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:02,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, they might want to to, you know, like they're

750
00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:04,719
Speaker 3: probably I'm sure there's odds out there that you can bet,

751
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:07,920
Speaker 3: and they're probably the shortest ones out there. So it

752
00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:10,319
Speaker 3: really comes out into a coin flip, or who do

753
00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:14,920
Speaker 3: you prefer? The Bills or the Patriots. The Jets and

754
00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:18,680
Speaker 3: Dolphins don't influence this one bit, you know, like in

755
00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:21,440
Speaker 3: some of these other conversations, at least, it's like I

756
00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:23,680
Speaker 3: could write a story where the Falcons win the division,

757
00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:25,920
Speaker 3: you know, like I can't write a Jets or Dolphins story.

758
00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:32,120
Speaker 3: I'm really unimpressed with the Bills off season and frankly

759
00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:36,200
Speaker 3: leadership lately, and I don't think moving from McDermott necessarily

760
00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:38,400
Speaker 3: is going to pay off, and I don't agree with

761
00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:41,320
Speaker 3: many of their moves, and I'm kind of the opposite

762
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:43,920
Speaker 3: with New England. So I'm going to take the winner

763
00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:47,120
Speaker 3: New England won last year, So.

764
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Speaker 2: This would be I think the first and maybe I

765
00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:51,880
Speaker 2: guess you could say the Eagles, but maybe the first

766
00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:56,319
Speaker 2: one that we're fairly confident in that regard.

767
00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:58,839
Speaker 3: I'm not fairly confident because I mean, I think it's

768
00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:00,640
Speaker 3: pretty close. Yeah, verse out, I.

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00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:04,120
Speaker 2: Lean towards everything. I lean towards everything you just said.

770
00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:06,640
Speaker 2: I think New England is moving in the right direction organizationally,

771
00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:09,200
Speaker 2: where I think the Bills are taking some steps back.

772
00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:14,040
Speaker 2: Having said that, last year was a perfect storm of

773
00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:19,000
Speaker 2: everything going the way. They played three teams the entire

774
00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:22,760
Speaker 2: regular season that made the playoffs, three games against teams

775
00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:24,360
Speaker 2: that made the playoffs. It was the Steelers and the

776
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:27,839
Speaker 2: Bills twice. Okay, yeah, yeah, right, there was one more

777
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:32,040
Speaker 2: in there, but three or four games against post. Now

778
00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:33,839
Speaker 2: that they have the first play schedule, that's not going

779
00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:35,840
Speaker 2: to be the case. They're not going to play a

780
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:39,080
Speaker 2: eighty of their games against teams that don't make the playoffs.

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Speaker 2: And you know, I always point this out when people

782
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:44,240
Speaker 2: are like that team hasn't beat anybody. It's not Ohio

783
00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:47,239
Speaker 2: State playing Akron. No, of course, not like it's still

784
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:50,160
Speaker 2: the NFL. But when you only played I think it

785
00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:53,760
Speaker 2: was three franchises in the Bills twice. So four games

786
00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:56,120
Speaker 2: last year against teams that made the playoffs.

787
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Speaker 3: Like that's pretty I mean, it's noteworthy.

788
00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:01,280
Speaker 2: Everything went their way for them to win the division.

789
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:03,480
Speaker 3: I bet that when I talked about it like that

790
00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:05,680
Speaker 3: FDN health thing, I bet they were near the top

791
00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:08,759
Speaker 3: of the league in health. Just so they are not

792
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:12,360
Speaker 3: a typical Super Bowl roster just in terms of strengths

793
00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:13,480
Speaker 3: and weaknesses, and you know.

794
00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:15,600
Speaker 2: Agree with you on that, right, So this to me,

795
00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:20,640
Speaker 2: I lean slightly to New England just because of this stability.

796
00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:24,400
Speaker 2: But I also, man, I think life's going to be

797
00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:28,000
Speaker 2: much more difficult on them. Yeah, this in twenty six

798
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:29,080
Speaker 2: than it was in twenty five.

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Speaker 3: And even though mcdermoc gone, there is a been there,

800
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:35,279
Speaker 3: done it factor of the bills of wikipete every year,

801
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:36,680
Speaker 3: you know, like, see if you can do it back

802
00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:39,920
Speaker 3: to back years, we can. Yeah, yeah, there's a strong

803
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:40,800
Speaker 3: case to think the bills.

804
00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:43,120
Speaker 2: And I know a lot of people have soured on

805
00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:46,840
Speaker 2: Josh Allen and his recent postseason performances. I think you're insane,

806
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:49,920
Speaker 2: But that's also not this conversation. This conversation is winning

807
00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:52,880
Speaker 2: games in September and October and November, and you know, yeah, yeah,

808
00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:55,160
Speaker 2: where Josh Allen has a pretty good track record of

809
00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:57,359
Speaker 2: doing that over the last you know, six or seven years.

810
00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:01,719
Speaker 2: What if what if Drake may he doesn't take another step.

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00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:04,839
Speaker 3: Forward, or he goes backwards, or even goes probably as

812
00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:07,920
Speaker 3: likely to go backwards than forwards. I mean, like I

813
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:10,920
Speaker 3: doubt he's going to be a m VP finalist. You know,

814
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:12,640
Speaker 3: I love him, but I mean it's just how the

815
00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:14,560
Speaker 3: world works. I mean, it's not like he's going to

816
00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:16,719
Speaker 3: be the best quarterback in the league next year, no

817
00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:21,480
Speaker 3: doubt about it. Quarterback advantage is still Buffalo, yes, yes,

818
00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:22,600
Speaker 3: I mean, it just just is.

819
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:25,080
Speaker 2: But the majority of the other advantages might you know,

820
00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:28,240
Speaker 2: Buffalo might have quarterback and offensive line, but then after.

821
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Speaker 3: And that's that's those are two start, yea.

822
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:32,520
Speaker 2: And then after that it might be New England. That's

823
00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:32,960
Speaker 2: a tough one.

824
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:34,400
Speaker 3: That that might be one of the hardest.

825
00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:37,600
Speaker 2: I think is more difficult even than maybe Rams in

826
00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:41,040
Speaker 2: Seattle and San Francisco. Maybe the NFC North with with

827
00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:43,960
Speaker 2: all those teams, that's a tough one. That's a it's

828
00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:44,719
Speaker 2: a real tough one.

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Speaker 3: I would I guess I'll take champion as opposed to

830
00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:50,960
Speaker 3: the field. But that's really as much a coin flip

831
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Speaker 3: as we've had yet in my opinion.

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00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:57,160
Speaker 2: For that conversation, Let's take a look at the next

833
00:38:57,719 --> 00:39:03,479
Speaker 2: AFC South, the Jacksonville Jaguars met This was a three

834
00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:05,879
Speaker 2: really good teams in this division last year. Yeah, three

835
00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:08,720
Speaker 2: playoff teams. Well, no part of me and the Colts

836
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:12,480
Speaker 2: fell off. But and I think Tennessee is towards the

837
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:15,000
Speaker 2: top of the conversation of teams that have improved the

838
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:18,560
Speaker 2: most this offseason. Yes, agreed, So this one becomes interesting.

839
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:20,520
Speaker 2: It's gonna be I think tough for the Colts because

840
00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:23,759
Speaker 2: Daniel Jones's health, But they.

841
00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:25,719
Speaker 3: Were running away with the division when times were good.

842
00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:28,560
Speaker 3: They were that. I always think that's that Steeler game

843
00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:31,520
Speaker 3: was like their line of demarcation, you know, like before that,

844
00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:34,520
Speaker 3: there's like this team's they be you know, I remember

845
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:37,600
Speaker 3: previewing them that week. It's like they really haven't beaten

846
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:40,640
Speaker 3: anybody but the best offense in the league, and Jonathan

847
00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:43,640
Speaker 3: Taylor looks like the MVP. I mean, they were rolling.

848
00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:46,160
Speaker 2: And so for that reason, I think I'm I'm definitely

849
00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:48,360
Speaker 2: taking the field here in the AFC South. Not because

850
00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:50,239
Speaker 2: I think Jacksonville is gonna stink or go back.

851
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:52,000
Speaker 3: Well, no, I think they're tier to stat.

852
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:54,080
Speaker 2: But Houston's not going anywhere. I think the Titans got

853
00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:57,239
Speaker 2: much better, and I think the Colts might not be

854
00:39:57,280 --> 00:39:59,520
Speaker 2: a bona fide contender or anything like that, but I

855
00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:01,400
Speaker 2: think they're going to be a problem.

856
00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:04,239
Speaker 3: I agree, I'm also going to take the field. I

857
00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:07,600
Speaker 3: have great respect for the Texans, especially the defense in

858
00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:09,960
Speaker 3: the NFL. I think they're well coached. I think they

859
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:13,480
Speaker 3: did a lot on offense with the line to you know,

860
00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:16,640
Speaker 3: remedy some weaknesses. Doesn't seem like much, but they're gonna

861
00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:19,319
Speaker 3: handle all. David Montgomery. I mean, they'll probably average four

862
00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:21,920
Speaker 3: yards of carry for the first time in forever. I

863
00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:23,880
Speaker 3: don't think Jacksonville is going away though. I mean, I

864
00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:29,560
Speaker 3: think the Lawrence Cohen conversation, you know, uh combination, there

865
00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:32,760
Speaker 3: is a winning one for sure, the quarterback head coach.

866
00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:35,520
Speaker 3: They're gonna get Hunter back from injuries. I mean, that's

867
00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:40,359
Speaker 3: huge Travis Hunter. But I guess you could also make

868
00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:43,520
Speaker 3: the argument, did Shroud turn into a pumpkin and see bad? Now?

869
00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:46,200
Speaker 3: Is Jones not gonna be there to start the season?

870
00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:49,239
Speaker 3: Is Tennessee just still a year away from being a

871
00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:49,960
Speaker 3: year away?

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Speaker 2: Sure?

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00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:54,359
Speaker 3: But I'm definitely taking the field. Yes, But I don't

874
00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:56,480
Speaker 3: know if Jacksonville is a favorite or Houston should be

875
00:40:56,480 --> 00:41:01,239
Speaker 3: the favorite. Dybe Jacksonville. I don't know. That's a tough call.

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00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:04,759
Speaker 2: That is a tough call. Uh hmm. I guess it

877
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:07,040
Speaker 2: all depends on how you view CJ. Stroud for the

878
00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:08,680
Speaker 2: for the twenty twenty six campaign.

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00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:12,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, I tend to still there might.

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00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:13,880
Speaker 2: Be some people out there saying that Trevor law you know,

881
00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:15,240
Speaker 2: Trevor Lawrence is in the same.

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00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:18,960
Speaker 3: Boat like one year wonder. Yeah right, consistently string strings

883
00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:20,120
Speaker 3: argument for that too.

884
00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:25,239
Speaker 2: Matt the AFC West The Denver Broncos, finally, speaking of

885
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:28,560
Speaker 2: another long reign that was ended. Much like in Buffalo,

886
00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:31,960
Speaker 2: Kansas City's uh long stretch of division titles came to

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00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:33,600
Speaker 2: an end at the hand of the Denver Broncos, who

888
00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:37,320
Speaker 2: found themselves in the AFC Championship Game. The Chargers are improved.

889
00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:40,520
Speaker 2: The Chiefs are a big why they deserve a lot

890
00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:42,040
Speaker 2: of benefit of the doubt, but I think they're still

891
00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:43,960
Speaker 2: a big wild card heading into the season.

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00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:47,000
Speaker 3: Like, the analytics folks will love the Chiefs this year

893
00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:49,560
Speaker 3: because they lost so many one score games and they

894
00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:51,560
Speaker 3: had a lot of bad luck and like.

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00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:53,560
Speaker 2: And they'll get an easier schedule than they've had in

896
00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:54,240
Speaker 2: a few years.

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00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:57,160
Speaker 3: Yes, and they pick earlier than usual. They had a

898
00:41:57,200 --> 00:42:00,800
Speaker 3: couple's first round picks. They had some real goofy things,

899
00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:04,880
Speaker 3: like every field goal attempted against them went through the uprights,

900
00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:07,720
Speaker 3: Like they had the worst field goal luck you've ever heard,

901
00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:11,160
Speaker 3: you know, weird stuff like that. You know, this is

902
00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:13,719
Speaker 3: a tough one, though, Like in most good divisions, I

903
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:16,760
Speaker 3: think it's easy just to say I'll take the field. Yes,

904
00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:18,080
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, like.

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00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:20,399
Speaker 2: Like the like the NFC North. Yeah, exactly, those four

906
00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:21,400
Speaker 2: teams could win the division.

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00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:23,120
Speaker 3: I'll take the I'm not going to take the champ

908
00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:24,560
Speaker 3: you know, maybe I'd pick them if I had to

909
00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:26,880
Speaker 3: pick one of the four teams, But you take the field.

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00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:33,600
Speaker 3: I have respect for the Chargers. I have respect for

911
00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:38,880
Speaker 3: Herbert and Mahomes. Obviously. I think Denver's really good.

912
00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:39,759
Speaker 2: I do too.

913
00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:41,359
Speaker 3: I think Denver's really good.

914
00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:43,719
Speaker 2: And they added Wattle, and they added Wattle, and I

915
00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:46,799
Speaker 2: think Boe Nicks being back and healthy, I.

916
00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:50,839
Speaker 3: Assume it'll be fine as your number three, really top

917
00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:52,680
Speaker 3: that's the best defense in the division.

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00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:55,560
Speaker 2: And what about the what if the Chargers offensive line

919
00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:58,480
Speaker 2: goes from the worst in football, which it was last year,

920
00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:02,920
Speaker 2: to a top three offensive line in football when they

921
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:05,000
Speaker 2: get two of the best tackles in the league back.

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00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:07,160
Speaker 3: Right, right, right, I mean, and Hardball's gonna have them

923
00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:09,520
Speaker 3: competitive and he had them competitive with the worst line, right,

924
00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:12,680
Speaker 3: you know, right right? I wonder if the best of

925
00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:16,320
Speaker 3: the Chiefs is coming gone. But part of me also wonders.

926
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Speaker 2: Is like they win eleven games and win the divisions, Mahomes.

927
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Speaker 3: Is just gonna take it personal. Yeah, is this just

928
00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:24,440
Speaker 3: gonna be totally, you know, just killing everybody. But he

929
00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:26,120
Speaker 3: is going to start the season banged up.

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00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:27,720
Speaker 2: That's a very good point.

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00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:30,080
Speaker 3: I think I'll take the champ but I'm shocked.

932
00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:34,879
Speaker 2: I am dang the Mahomes. It's not the smart beat.

933
00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:38,080
Speaker 2: It might be though, because if they're good, what if

934
00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:40,160
Speaker 2: Mahomes isn't fully Mahomes until Halloween.

935
00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:42,000
Speaker 3: I mean they traded for Justin Fields for a reason.

936
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Speaker 2: They did.

937
00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:44,560
Speaker 3: I mean that's it. Teams tell you what they think,

938
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Speaker 3: and it makes me think that they don't think he's

939
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Speaker 3: going to be there for week one.

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00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:51,480
Speaker 2: I think I'll take the Field, but this one's this

941
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:53,480
Speaker 2: one's tough, too, man, this one's very tough.

942
00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:56,320
Speaker 3: I bet the field would pay less than picking Denver

943
00:43:57,360 --> 00:43:59,560
Speaker 3: and you know what I mean a dollar.

944
00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:01,799
Speaker 2: When because you're right, the oddsmakers are going to love

945
00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:05,520
Speaker 2: the Chiefs bounce it back. The Chargers factor into this conversation.

946
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Speaker 3: The Raiders are actually better. I just can't imagine them

947
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:10,719
Speaker 3: being a worse the first to Yeah, absolutely not.

948
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Speaker 2: The Raiders hopefully will not be a pushover. Again, I

949
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Speaker 2: don't think they will be. I think the Raiders and

950
00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:18,840
Speaker 2: the Titans are going to battle it out for most

951
00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:21,120
Speaker 2: improved teams in the NFL this year. Now what that

952
00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:23,480
Speaker 2: means all the grand scheme of things. Do they win

953
00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:24,960
Speaker 2: five games? Do they win seven games?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

955
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Speaker 2: You know, whatever.

956
00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:28,080
Speaker 3: But I don't know one that will be picking in

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Speaker 3: the top five again.

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Speaker 2: You know, I don't expect them to pick them the

959
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Speaker 2: top five, but I don't expect them to be contending

960
00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:35,720
Speaker 2: for a division title at Thanksgiving, No, no, or Christmas

961
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Speaker 2: or whatever.

962
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Speaker 3: No, I agree with that, Matt.

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00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:41,680
Speaker 2: That leaves just one more the AFC North, where your

964
00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:44,080
Speaker 2: Pittsburgh Steelers are the reigning champions. And we only have

965
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Speaker 2: about thirty seconds till we got to take a break.

966
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Speaker 2: So guess what we're gonna tease it hover and we're

967
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Speaker 2: gonna kick off our number two say talking about the

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Speaker 2: AFC North and who will be the Kings in the

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Speaker 2: North in twenty twenty six. We'll do that. We'll get

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Speaker 2: to your tweets a whole bunch of moving and shaking

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Speaker 2: in hour number two, halfway Home on the Drive Yeweler

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