WEBVTT - #43 Man with a (Wedding) Plan 0:00:00.800 --> 0:00:06.600 Hell with Dean, Vanessa and Jared and I Heart Radio Podcast. 0:00:09.800 --> 0:00:12.680 Hello everyone, thank you for joining us on another episode 0:00:12.680 --> 0:00:15.680 of Help I Suck At Dating. I'm Dean Angler. No 0:00:15.760 --> 0:00:18.200 one in studio at least the typical co host Jared 0:00:18.239 --> 0:00:20.640 and Vanessa are not in studio today, but I am 0:00:20.760 --> 0:00:22.479 joined by some friends. And if you guys want to 0:00:22.480 --> 0:00:26.720 say hi real quick, do you mind Erica and Tory 0:00:27.480 --> 0:00:33.920 baby and Eastern needs no interaction apparently, he says hey, uh. 0:00:33.920 --> 0:00:36.800 And on the phone, we have Jared who is out 0:00:36.800 --> 0:00:39.640 of town currently, but in the spirit of this podcast, 0:00:39.680 --> 0:00:42.040 which we typically do, we love having one host call in. 0:00:43.159 --> 0:00:47.680 So Jared are there. Oh, I'm out here currently much. 0:00:47.680 --> 0:00:49.519 How you guys doing. We're doing well? How are you? 0:00:49.520 --> 0:00:53.360 Where are you? We are currently in Westerly, Rhode Islands, 0:00:53.840 --> 0:00:57.400 and we are currently at the We're we're What we're 0:00:57.400 --> 0:00:59.560 doing is we're wedding venue shopping. I'm wedding venue shopping 0:00:59.560 --> 0:01:01.560 with Aster now. Right now we're at Ocean House, which 0:01:01.600 --> 0:01:04.039 is in watch Hill, Rhode Islands, and so we're looking 0:01:04.040 --> 0:01:06.400 at some places deciding where we want to get married. 0:01:06.440 --> 0:01:10.680 It's quite beautiful. Wait, Jared, aren't you from Rhode Island? Yes, 0:01:10.760 --> 0:01:13.160 Somebergs are from Warford Island. So we decided, actually I 0:01:13.160 --> 0:01:14.920 decided that we're probably getting get ried to Rhode Island 0:01:14.920 --> 0:01:17.720 because most of our family, My family's from Rhode Island 0:01:17.720 --> 0:01:20.080 and then her family mostly from Jersey and Northern Virginia. 0:01:20.120 --> 0:01:21.399 So it just makes sense that we get married on 0:01:21.400 --> 0:01:23.120 the East coast. And there's so many beautiful venues in 0:01:23.120 --> 0:01:25.760 Westerly and Newport and Arroganta that it just makes sense 0:01:25.760 --> 0:01:27.000 for us to get married over here. And the cool 0:01:27.000 --> 0:01:30.119 thing about ocean houses that we're currently here looking at shops, 0:01:30.120 --> 0:01:32.080 so they're letting me use a room, which is pretty awesome. 0:01:32.120 --> 0:01:34.440 So from their conference room right now, calling in on 0:01:34.480 --> 0:01:37.080 a landline and help us like a dating. But the 0:01:37.200 --> 0:01:40.000 really cool thing is that people are gonna love is 0:01:40.040 --> 0:01:43.199 that we're about oh three yards from Taylor House, Swift 0:01:43.640 --> 0:01:48.720 Taylor Swift Taylor House, Swift House. I can I can 0:01:48.880 --> 0:01:51.400 very clearly tell how excited you are because of how 0:01:51.640 --> 0:01:54.640 fast you're talking. I know, well what it is. I 0:01:54.680 --> 0:01:56.600 have actually actually sitting next to me right now, and 0:01:56.640 --> 0:01:58.480 she just keeps like yelling at me, telling me what 0:01:58.640 --> 0:02:03.880 to say, and it's really just turn acting and like flaring. 0:02:03.920 --> 0:02:05.640 She's like, no, I have a good idea. No say this, 0:02:05.720 --> 0:02:09.799 and like, actually just watch shows on your computer. Jared's professional. 0:02:09.880 --> 0:02:12.560 I think that you don't need to take her advice. Anyways, 0:02:12.560 --> 0:02:15.400 It's okay, um, okay, So you're in Rhode Island. You're 0:02:15.480 --> 0:02:18.720 you're shopping for wedding venues. I saw actually Ashley tweet out, 0:02:18.720 --> 0:02:20.600 maybe this morning or last night, that she like tweeted 0:02:20.639 --> 0:02:23.400 at Taylor swift To asking to borrow her house for 0:02:23.440 --> 0:02:27.200 the wedding. Yes, we're kind of shooting for the moon 0:02:27.280 --> 0:02:31.799 on um so yeah, she tweeted, and we're hoping to 0:02:31.840 --> 0:02:34.000 get vile and then maybe, you know, Taylor will let 0:02:34.080 --> 0:02:35.720 us borrow her house for a few hours on a 0:02:35.760 --> 0:02:39.520 beautiful Saturday next summer, where Ashley and I can get married. 0:02:39.639 --> 0:02:42.040 You know, Taylor is more than welcome to stay at 0:02:42.040 --> 0:02:44.280 the house that she wants to while all our friends 0:02:44.280 --> 0:02:46.760 and family fill it up. Just a mild inconvenience for you. 0:02:46.800 --> 0:02:49.240 I'm sure, my old little inconvenience. I'm sure she'll be 0:02:49.280 --> 0:02:51.240 fine with it. But the cool thing is is that 0:02:51.400 --> 0:02:54.040 her house would legitimately be a beautiful wedding venue. But 0:02:54.320 --> 0:02:56.080 it's been pretty cool. So we went through our first 0:02:56.080 --> 0:02:59.280 one yesterday in Newport, Rhode Island, and it's just really 0:02:59.280 --> 0:03:02.760 exciting to see, you know, where we're gonna get married 0:03:02.840 --> 0:03:06.280 or start the wedding planning process and figure, oh, we 0:03:06.360 --> 0:03:09.120 like this, but we don't like this and um, you know, 0:03:09.200 --> 0:03:10.839 we don't want to do a first look or where 0:03:10.840 --> 0:03:12.600 the reception would be and so on and so forth. 0:03:12.760 --> 0:03:14.920 Has the whole because I mean, obviously guys have been 0:03:14.919 --> 0:03:17.320 sort of planning the wedding since the engagement for some 0:03:17.880 --> 0:03:20.720 at least to some respect, has the dynamic of the 0:03:20.760 --> 0:03:22.640 relationship changed all or have you seen actually in like 0:03:22.639 --> 0:03:24.919 a different light since you've seen the whole wedding planning 0:03:24.960 --> 0:03:29.119 kind of unfold. Not really. I mean, Ashley already thrives 0:03:29.280 --> 0:03:32.799 in such like planning mode. That's where she is at 0:03:32.800 --> 0:03:35.880 her best, and so wedding planning is just no different 0:03:35.960 --> 0:03:38.600 like any charity event that we've ever had in terms of, 0:03:38.680 --> 0:03:41.800 you know, having a bachelor related one actually usually plans 0:03:41.840 --> 0:03:44.360 it and she loved doing it. So now that she's 0:03:44.360 --> 0:03:46.560 planning our wedding or helping, we also have so one 0:03:46.600 --> 0:03:48.760 of our friends, Troy Williams, he's going to be our 0:03:48.760 --> 0:03:51.720 wedding planner. He's awesome, so Astley and him have been 0:03:51.760 --> 0:03:54.320 constantly texting back and forth on this group thread that 0:03:54.560 --> 0:03:56.400 some for some reason, I'm a partup, you know. I 0:03:56.520 --> 0:03:59.240 never answer, It's just I'm pretty much just you know, 0:03:59.360 --> 0:04:01.560 nodding my being like, yeah, that sounds great, that sounds great. 0:04:01.600 --> 0:04:03.200 Sure we'll go there. Just tell me what to do, 0:04:03.280 --> 0:04:05.080 where to go, and I'll be there. Well. And I 0:04:05.120 --> 0:04:07.320 know too. One of the stories that you you like 0:04:07.440 --> 0:04:10.120 telling is the first time or I guess the moment 0:04:10.120 --> 0:04:11.720 that you knew you were in love with Ashley was 0:04:11.800 --> 0:04:14.520 when she was planning a function. I can't remember what 0:04:14.520 --> 0:04:16.839 it was, but it was on the East coast, right, Yeah, 0:04:16.920 --> 0:04:19.640 So it was our first function after Bastian Paradise Season 0:04:19.640 --> 0:04:22.799 two is in October of two, and I remember actually 0:04:22.839 --> 0:04:24.840 invited myself and a lot of other people from that 0:04:24.880 --> 0:04:28.159 season to do this charity event at her house in Virginia. 0:04:28.600 --> 0:04:31.479 So it was myself and about eight other Bachelor's contestants 0:04:31.520 --> 0:04:34.960 and we flew down to Virginia and stayed at Ashley's 0:04:35.000 --> 0:04:36.400 home with her parents, And it was the first time 0:04:36.400 --> 0:04:39.719 that I saw actually outside of the Bachelor bubble in 0:04:39.800 --> 0:04:43.760 her element planning this event. Um surrounded by friends and family, 0:04:43.880 --> 0:04:47.480 just astley at her most comfortable. And then that's the 0:04:47.600 --> 0:04:49.840 one immediately knew that I was an idiot. And then 0:04:49.839 --> 0:04:51.920 I just continued being an idiot for question times because 0:04:51.960 --> 0:04:54.760 I'm a guy, and you know, guys are stupid and 0:04:54.839 --> 0:04:57.440 so but that was the first moment where I looked 0:04:57.440 --> 0:05:00.000 at her and said, uh, I'm going to marry her. 0:05:00.160 --> 0:05:02.599 And now it all comes full circle because then she's acting. 0:05:02.680 --> 0:05:04.719 She's doing the same thing, but now instead of planning 0:05:04.720 --> 0:05:07.520 that function or that event, she's planning the wedding. To you, 0:05:09.480 --> 0:05:11.919 just a funny thing. Life is such a funny thing. 0:05:11.960 --> 0:05:15.400 I'm very lucky, guys. So our love began with planning, 0:05:15.440 --> 0:05:17.880 and it will certainly not end with planning. How I 0:05:17.920 --> 0:05:21.279 do have a question will be how much how heavily 0:05:21.320 --> 0:05:23.320 involved in this planning are you? Are you basically just 0:05:23.400 --> 0:05:24.960 kind of nodding your head and saying yes to everything 0:05:25.000 --> 0:05:28.320 actually suggests? Are you weighing in with anything of your own? No, 0:05:28.480 --> 0:05:30.720 I certainly have a lot of opinions of my own 0:05:31.400 --> 0:05:33.560 want to incorporate into the wedding. But I think the 0:05:33.600 --> 0:05:36.520 most important thing is that actually dream wedding come true. 0:05:36.839 --> 0:05:40.280 So if he is really wanting something or dead sense 0:05:40.360 --> 0:05:43.280 on something. I'll compromise. I have no issues doing that. 0:05:43.360 --> 0:05:47.240 I just want, you know, certain little details it to 0:05:47.400 --> 0:05:49.800 be mine as well, like Superman cuff links, So like, 0:05:49.880 --> 0:05:54.359 is there is there a Superman be ripping open my 0:05:54.440 --> 0:05:57.800 shirt at the altar and revealing my Superman shirt that 0:05:57.839 --> 0:06:00.920 I'm wearing underneath, and then I'm going to to rip 0:06:00.920 --> 0:06:05.719 off my pants and have a full Superman with red tape. Uh, 0:06:05.760 --> 0:06:07.720 and then I will put the ring on Ashley, and 0:06:07.760 --> 0:06:11.440 then we will be attached to strings that hopefully Dean 0:06:11.480 --> 0:06:15.799 will be handling in the back and fly over everybody. 0:06:15.880 --> 0:06:18.560 And uh, that's our one story right there. And I 0:06:18.600 --> 0:06:20.599 know that you might be joking a little bit, but 0:06:20.600 --> 0:06:23.160 I hope you're not. I'm praying that you're not. Yeah, 0:06:23.640 --> 0:06:25.479 I will say. Our wedding planners sent us a picture 0:06:25.640 --> 0:06:27.760 of a wedding that he did years ago where the 0:06:27.800 --> 0:06:30.880 guy was a big superhero nerd like myself, and so 0:06:31.040 --> 0:06:35.360 him and the Brunsman all wore um superhero shirts underneath 0:06:35.360 --> 0:06:37.560 their taxes, so like one was Superman, that was pat 0:06:37.560 --> 0:06:39.599 Man in Green Lantern, and so before the wedding, like 0:06:39.640 --> 0:06:42.480 in the photos of him and his Brunsman, they all 0:06:42.640 --> 0:06:47.400 like opened up their shirt. It's actually pretty fantastic. It's 0:06:47.400 --> 0:06:50.400 something I'm really thinking about doing. Erica is shaking her 0:06:50.440 --> 0:06:52.440 head and discussed, I can't get on board with this, 0:06:52.839 --> 0:06:56.840 so I'm not marrying you. So it's okay. Actually is 0:06:56.839 --> 0:06:59.400 actually on board that, so I'm pretty lucky. But we'll see, 0:06:59.400 --> 0:07:01.039 we'll see if it happens. I kind of wanted to 0:07:01.040 --> 0:07:02.760 get a little bit more seriously, but who the hell knows. 0:07:03.400 --> 0:07:04.880 I mean, you only get one, so you might as 0:07:04.880 --> 0:07:07.280 well go all out, I know. But it is fun, 0:07:07.320 --> 0:07:09.480 I will say it is. I feel lucky to like 0:07:09.520 --> 0:07:11.800 be planning a wedding with the love of my life 0:07:11.800 --> 0:07:14.880 because it's cool because all I've heard is how stressful 0:07:14.880 --> 0:07:17.800 wedding planning is, and there is a layer of stress 0:07:17.840 --> 0:07:21.120 of making sure like talking to the people, talking money obviously, 0:07:21.400 --> 0:07:23.560 who were inviting, who were not inviting, What do you 0:07:23.600 --> 0:07:25.480 want for your wedding? What do I want? So on 0:07:25.520 --> 0:07:28.600 and so forth. But Ashley and I have we're kind 0:07:28.600 --> 0:07:30.160 of on the same page with a lot of things, 0:07:30.160 --> 0:07:33.720 and um, it's it's not that stressful as if yet. 0:07:33.720 --> 0:07:36.920 Granted we've only looked at two venues, so we're just beginning. 0:07:36.960 --> 0:07:40.239 But it's really exciting and a little surreal to think about. 0:07:40.280 --> 0:07:42.840 Oh no, this is I'm planning my wedding. It's one 0:07:42.840 --> 0:07:44.600 of those things you always wait for the day to come, 0:07:44.600 --> 0:07:46.840 and now it's here, Like I've seen two venues and 0:07:46.880 --> 0:07:50.480 this could potentially be the place that I marry my wife. 0:07:51.200 --> 0:07:53.680 Remember last week too, you said that you are considering 0:07:54.040 --> 0:07:56.520 or debating whether or not to give me a plus 0:07:56.560 --> 0:08:00.400 one to your wedding. Well, I was debating it is Dean. 0:08:00.600 --> 0:08:02.280 I think you might have more fun on your own. 0:08:02.320 --> 0:08:05.480 Your it depends. That's listen. If you are, you know, 0:08:05.760 --> 0:08:07.960 in a relationship next summer, of course they're gonna be one. 0:08:07.960 --> 0:08:10.640 But if you're singing, a lot of our friends are 0:08:10.640 --> 0:08:13.760 gonna be their mutual friends. Ben's gonna be there, Nick's 0:08:13.760 --> 0:08:15.760 gonna be there, And if everybody's sinkle, I think it 0:08:15.840 --> 0:08:17.920 might be more fun for you guys, just like go 0:08:18.040 --> 0:08:19.600 as a group. You know, it's kind of like prom 0:08:19.640 --> 0:08:21.600 where if you didn't have a date that you really liked, 0:08:21.640 --> 0:08:23.240 it's almost better just to go with a bunch of 0:08:23.280 --> 0:08:25.840 your friends and to bring somebody that you're really not 0:08:25.840 --> 0:08:28.080 sure about. And especially if Taylor Swift is gonna be there, 0:08:28.080 --> 0:08:30.400 I mean I gotta go single, dude, you have to 0:08:30.440 --> 0:08:32.800 go single. I'm telling you, she's gonna love you. We'll 0:08:32.800 --> 0:08:34.880 see um. And so you're in Rhode Island for a 0:08:34.920 --> 0:08:36.880 bachelor party, then, right, that's what that was one of 0:08:36.880 --> 0:08:38.880 the other reasons you were there. Yeah, So we flew 0:08:38.960 --> 0:08:40.960 back for a bachelor party this past weekend. My sister 0:08:41.040 --> 0:08:44.240 is getting married September, so it's her fiance's my future 0:08:44.240 --> 0:08:46.360 brother in law's bachelor party of this past weekend. We 0:08:46.440 --> 0:08:49.040 drove through a cabin in Maine. It was like twelve 0:08:49.080 --> 0:08:52.120 of his bodies and just just chilled up there Friday 0:08:52.120 --> 0:08:54.360 and Saturday, um, and then you're back Sunday. It was 0:08:54.360 --> 0:08:56.600 a very relaxed bachelor party. We just stayed in, play 0:08:56.679 --> 0:09:00.600 beer pong, played uh you know, yard games, drying, hung out, 0:09:00.679 --> 0:09:02.959 went to a brewery and the now was there. Really it. 0:09:03.240 --> 0:09:05.400 So it was a bachelor party that I liked because 0:09:05.400 --> 0:09:07.160 I'm not a big I'm not a guy who goes 0:09:07.200 --> 0:09:09.440 out a lot. But it made me think about my 0:09:09.480 --> 0:09:12.160 own bachelor party and what I want. And so this 0:09:12.280 --> 0:09:14.640 might sound really lame. If people are probably gonna hate me, 0:09:14.960 --> 0:09:18.040 guarantee's gonna sound lame. That's not surprising to any of us. Dude, 0:09:18.080 --> 0:09:20.000 I kind of wanted Jack and Jail bachelor and bachelor 0:09:20.080 --> 0:09:22.360 party like because the whole weekend we were hanging out 0:09:22.679 --> 0:09:24.840 and even some of the other guys were saying how 0:09:24.880 --> 0:09:27.440 they missed their fiance, their wife and they have kids 0:09:27.480 --> 0:09:30.320 and it just becomes so chaotic, and I was thinking 0:09:30.360 --> 0:09:32.520 to myself, Yeah, I think this would be more fun, 0:09:32.520 --> 0:09:34.960 and if all our significant others were here, we're all 0:09:35.000 --> 0:09:37.400 just kind of hanging out. Granted, we couldn't like you know, 0:09:37.480 --> 0:09:39.760 quote unquote grow out if our girls are there. But 0:09:39.840 --> 0:09:42.280 having said that, I don't know, there's something cool about 0:09:42.280 --> 0:09:44.079 being a Jack and Jail bachelor and bachelor party and 0:09:44.120 --> 0:09:45.559 nationally agree. So I don't know if we're gonna do 0:09:45.600 --> 0:09:47.160 it or not, but that's kind of the director we're headed. 0:09:47.280 --> 0:09:50.880 You could do too, theoretically, right, maybe what Jack and 0:09:50.960 --> 0:09:52.520 Jill well to, like, you'd have like a Jack and 0:09:52.559 --> 0:09:54.440 Jail and then like your regular bachelor party where you 0:09:54.480 --> 0:09:57.120 just invite a bunch of guys and drink beer and 0:09:57.280 --> 0:09:59.200 far around each other and all that kind of stuff. 0:09:59.400 --> 0:10:02.480 You know, Like what that's true? I will say it 0:10:02.559 --> 0:10:04.280 was like to just get away with a couple of 0:10:04.320 --> 0:10:06.720 guys hang out and then like you know, like that 0:10:06.960 --> 0:10:12.320 just like and not feel not feel judged, because like 0:10:12.360 --> 0:10:13.800 I feel like every time they laugh at a poop 0:10:13.880 --> 0:10:19.079 joke and I'm like, listen, I could be funny. Um, 0:10:19.120 --> 0:10:21.280 but yeah, what we're thinking for a a bachelor bachelor at party, 0:10:21.360 --> 0:10:23.199 or at least my bachelor parties, I'm thinking one night. 0:10:23.320 --> 0:10:25.959 I think that's that's like a good amount. Like everybody 0:10:25.960 --> 0:10:27.840 gets together hangs out. We'd go out and we need 0:10:27.880 --> 0:10:30.000 to go out one night, or we like rent a 0:10:30.040 --> 0:10:32.760 place out and all staying and drink and have fun. 0:10:33.040 --> 0:10:35.000 And then the next day, like maybe how hang out 0:10:35.000 --> 0:10:36.719 for like a day portion and then that's really it. 0:10:36.760 --> 0:10:38.280 I don't know if I'd make a big weekend of it, 0:10:38.320 --> 0:10:40.480 but that's also just me like people are different in 0:10:40.520 --> 0:10:42.120 their own way and people want their own things. Like 0:10:42.160 --> 0:10:44.040 what would you do, Dean Dean if you were getting 0:10:44.040 --> 0:10:45.920 married and you had a bachelor party that you had 0:10:45.920 --> 0:10:47.920 to plan, would you do like the whole weekend thing? 0:10:47.920 --> 0:10:49.800 Would you just do? Guys? Would you want to Jack 0:10:49.800 --> 0:10:52.160 and Jill? I mean, I have no idea. It's it's 0:10:52.200 --> 0:10:54.920 so far removed from my I guess memory or not 0:10:54.960 --> 0:10:57.360 even memory. It's so far removed from any remo possibilities, 0:10:57.360 --> 0:10:58.640 so I haven't really thought about too much. But I 0:10:58.640 --> 0:11:00.400 will say, you were almost married to Rachel. What do 0:11:00.400 --> 0:11:03.040 you talk about you haven't thought about. It's a great point. 0:11:03.640 --> 0:11:05.439 I'm not a big fan of like strip clubs or 0:11:05.440 --> 0:11:07.280 anything like that, so I don't really foresee that being 0:11:07.360 --> 0:11:09.480 part of it, although it's like kind of I don't know, 0:11:09.520 --> 0:11:11.160 I feel like that's like the norm these days is 0:11:11.200 --> 0:11:13.560 like you go with your boys to a strip club 0:11:13.600 --> 0:11:15.640 and get super wasted and then you I don't know, 0:11:15.720 --> 0:11:19.040 it's always sounds kind of cheap and cheesy. I hate 0:11:19.040 --> 0:11:21.240 them so much. I've been to you in my life, 0:11:21.320 --> 0:11:24.640 but I've always feel super uncomfortable whenever I'm there. Yeah, 0:11:24.760 --> 0:11:26.800 and no matter how much alcohol is involved, I could 0:11:26.840 --> 0:11:29.000 be super drunk and still just be like, I just 0:11:29.040 --> 0:11:31.400 feel gross and disgusting in here. I need to get out. 0:11:31.760 --> 0:11:34.080 But I don't know. What do you think as a female? 0:11:34.120 --> 0:11:39.080 What are your thoughts disgusting girls that like them? I 0:11:39.120 --> 0:11:42.560 know I'm not into it. Also, I'm just glad that, 0:11:42.640 --> 0:11:44.640 like my boyfriend says, he's like, I've never been to one. 0:11:44.640 --> 0:11:46.040 I have no intention of going to one, and I'm 0:11:46.040 --> 0:11:47.960 like that rocks. I mean I've been to one, don't 0:11:47.960 --> 0:11:49.840 get me wrong, but you just didn't enjoy it. No. 0:11:49.920 --> 0:11:51.959 I've probably been two or three times in my entire life. 0:11:52.679 --> 0:11:55.280 Did you participate? No, I've never got a dance, and 0:11:55.440 --> 0:11:58.120 I just always like sit there uncomfortably awkward, like in 0:11:58.160 --> 0:12:00.280 a little shell, and don't really do anything. I went 0:12:00.320 --> 0:12:04.640 when I was sixteen. Oh, sorry, Jared. I went to 0:12:04.840 --> 0:12:06.840 the Crazy Horse in San Francisco, and I thought they 0:12:06.840 --> 0:12:08.080 were gonna check my I d and they did not. 0:12:08.280 --> 0:12:10.839 I was with some friends that were older, and uh. 0:12:10.840 --> 0:12:12.720 I remember staying in the audience and this um young 0:12:12.800 --> 0:12:14.679 lady came up and asked me if I wanted to dance, 0:12:14.679 --> 0:12:16.800 and I thought she meant dance, like, you know, like 0:12:17.280 --> 0:12:19.679 just then a dance. I'm waving my arms back and forth. Um, 0:12:19.720 --> 0:12:22.000 and she would be to a private room. Oh, and 0:12:22.200 --> 0:12:23.720 I'm like, how much is this gonna cost me? And 0:12:23.760 --> 0:12:26.280 she she broke it down. I pulled out the last 0:12:26.280 --> 0:12:29.520 twenty dollars in my bank account. That was sixteen, anybody, 0:12:29.720 --> 0:12:32.360 and I gotta. She gave me a lap dance that 0:12:32.400 --> 0:12:34.960 I was super uncomfortable about it, and that song um 0:12:34.960 --> 0:12:37.800 Faint by Lincoln Park was playing. Yeah, that album had 0:12:37.800 --> 0:12:39.040 just come out. It was a really big deal, and 0:12:39.240 --> 0:12:40.680 I was like, I really liked this song and she's like, 0:12:40.720 --> 0:12:45.040 I do too, And her name was Illusion Illusion and 0:12:45.120 --> 0:12:47.199 she made me do a man that night. It sounds 0:12:47.240 --> 0:12:49.079 like you guys really hit it off. We sure did. 0:12:49.160 --> 0:12:50.880 She was the one welf. I mean, you're married, obviously. 0:12:50.880 --> 0:12:53.319 So I went to a strip club. So I've a 0:12:53.320 --> 0:12:55.520 trip three or four times, but I went three years ago, 0:12:55.760 --> 0:12:57.520 and this is like the most jarred story I can 0:12:57.559 --> 0:13:00.360 possibly tell. So we're at the strip club on being 0:13:00.360 --> 0:13:02.360 where I feel a little uncomfortable to be surrounded by 0:13:02.360 --> 0:13:05.760 a bunch of dudes watching a girl perform, all being 0:13:06.000 --> 0:13:08.040 turned on at the same time in one room. Like 0:13:08.080 --> 0:13:10.240 it's just like a weird environment for me to be in. 0:13:10.520 --> 0:13:12.640 But a buddy of mine bought me a lap dance 0:13:12.679 --> 0:13:14.320 because he knew that I was uncomfortable. So I went 0:13:14.360 --> 0:13:17.680 into the private room as this girl. And so the 0:13:17.720 --> 0:13:20.320 first obviously it was like it was like she he 0:13:20.360 --> 0:13:22.120 paid for a song, I think it was. So I 0:13:22.160 --> 0:13:24.160 go back there with this woman, I forget her name, 0:13:24.440 --> 0:13:26.520 and she's she you know, stands in front of me 0:13:26.679 --> 0:13:28.360 and then she starts doing your dance. But we start 0:13:28.440 --> 0:13:31.440 talking right and so I'm asking about her life and 0:13:31.480 --> 0:13:34.080 like what she does and what she you know, where 0:13:34.080 --> 0:13:35.800 she's from, so on and so far. I swear to God, 0:13:35.840 --> 0:13:38.440 I saw talking to this girl and we've talked for 0:13:38.520 --> 0:13:41.480 like ten minutes. She didn't even give me a lap dance. 0:13:42.000 --> 0:13:43.640 I just talked to the strip for the entire time. 0:13:43.679 --> 0:13:45.480 So of course I get up and I'm like, oh, 0:13:45.520 --> 0:13:47.880 that wasn't so bad, Like that's fine, and I'm walking 0:13:47.880 --> 0:13:51.040 out and the bounce was like, okay, ninety bucks, it 0:13:51.120 --> 0:13:52.960 was already paid for. He's like that he paid for 0:13:53.000 --> 0:13:56.160 one song, you went for two more. No, no, no, no no, 0:13:56.400 --> 0:13:58.080 Like she didn't even give me a lap dance. And 0:13:58.160 --> 0:14:00.160 she's gone by this point, like I don't see here, 0:14:00.520 --> 0:14:02.560 and he's like, listen, you could give me the money 0:14:02.640 --> 0:14:04.160 or you're out, Like he was just and he didn't 0:14:04.160 --> 0:14:06.040 say it like that. It was a far more intimidating 0:14:06.120 --> 0:14:09.520 voice human being it was coming from, and so I 0:14:09.520 --> 0:14:11.720 immediately felt threatened and like he was going to break 0:14:11.800 --> 0:14:14.120 both my life. So he escorted me to the a 0:14:14.240 --> 0:14:16.640 t M where I withdrew ninety more dollars and handed 0:14:16.640 --> 0:14:18.280 it to him and then went back to my little 0:14:18.280 --> 0:14:20.560 corner and had the rest of my Vaca Cranberry and 0:14:20.600 --> 0:14:23.280 called it him and those service charges on the A 0:14:23.360 --> 0:14:29.440 t M S a joke dollars. It's a um, well, 0:14:29.640 --> 0:14:31.120 all right, safe to say that Jared will not be 0:14:31.160 --> 0:14:33.880 attending a strip club for his bachelor party, especially if 0:14:33.880 --> 0:14:35.640 actually is there. I don't really, I don't see that 0:14:35.680 --> 0:14:37.920 final too went off the rails on that one. Didn't 0:14:37.960 --> 0:14:40.880 we j Did you watch Bachelor in Paradise? I did? 0:14:40.880 --> 0:14:42.840 Did you? I did catch us up? What do you 0:14:42.840 --> 0:14:46.240 think about everything? Obviously the call and a situation is 0:14:46.320 --> 0:14:49.840 dominating the storyline. I feel like a lot of yeah, 0:14:49.840 --> 0:14:53.000 who are yeah? I have no idea. I feel like 0:14:53.000 --> 0:14:56.120 a lot of people are on social media are hating that, 0:14:56.320 --> 0:14:59.000 which I'm not sure why because it's definitely for me, 0:14:59.080 --> 0:15:01.720 the most interesting part to the show. I think Jordan's 0:15:01.840 --> 0:15:05.640 is feeling Jordan's. It's it's colon Tia number one and 0:15:05.680 --> 0:15:08.440 then Jordan is number two. But Jordan is really likable. 0:15:08.760 --> 0:15:11.440 I mean he's I liked him on Beckas season as well. 0:15:11.480 --> 0:15:13.880 I thought he you know, while for all his quirk, 0:15:14.160 --> 0:15:16.080 he came off pretty genuine and funny, and I liked 0:15:16.120 --> 0:15:18.680 him a lot, so he's only reaffirming the facts of 0:15:19.000 --> 0:15:21.880 why I like him. And then I mean, with Calling 0:15:21.920 --> 0:15:25.360 and Tia, it's kind of I think they're both in 0:15:25.400 --> 0:15:28.280 the wrong. I think Tia, A lot of people are 0:15:28.280 --> 0:15:30.800 on TIA's side, and I'm not saying I'm not, but 0:15:30.840 --> 0:15:34.480 I'm also on Colton's side as well. I'm wondering where 0:15:34.520 --> 0:15:36.400 you're at with that. You're sitting on the fence. You 0:15:36.400 --> 0:15:38.480 could go either way, dude, I know I'm still on 0:15:38.480 --> 0:15:40.520 the fense like Colon right now. The thing is, I mean, 0:15:40.600 --> 0:15:42.680 Colin is being very open and honest about the fact 0:15:42.720 --> 0:15:45.280 that he's not sure about his feelings for Tia, and 0:15:45.320 --> 0:15:47.120 so I feel bad for Tia because I know how 0:15:47.160 --> 0:15:49.720 much she likes Calling and how she's focusing on him, 0:15:49.920 --> 0:15:51.840 so I can I can feel for her. But at 0:15:51.840 --> 0:15:54.120 the same time, Colin is not doing anything wrong. He's 0:15:54.120 --> 0:15:56.640 being completely on its telling her I still don't want 0:15:56.680 --> 0:15:58.360 to close the book on you, but I'm not sure. 0:15:58.440 --> 0:16:00.000 So I think at this point it's kind of up 0:16:00.040 --> 0:16:02.440 to Tia to really, you know, pull up her pant 0:16:02.440 --> 0:16:05.080 so to speak, and stand up for herself and say, Okay, 0:16:05.120 --> 0:16:06.640 I need to shut that door because it's not going 0:16:06.680 --> 0:16:09.040 to work. So I don't really know, because here's this thing, 0:16:09.120 --> 0:16:11.360 like as much as I love Kendall and Kendall's the 0:16:11.360 --> 0:16:13.600 sweetish girls, she's kind of doing the same thing Colinton's 0:16:13.640 --> 0:16:16.520 doing where she told grocery store Joe she really likes them, 0:16:16.560 --> 0:16:19.040 but she wants to, you know, date other people. And 0:16:19.080 --> 0:16:22.400 she kissed John right after she talked to Joe. So 0:16:22.720 --> 0:16:25.760 I don't understand why Colin's getting so much flak for it, 0:16:26.400 --> 0:16:29.320 um when I don't think he's really doing anything wrong. 0:16:30.000 --> 0:16:32.760 I mean, you can be on TIA's sign, but I 0:16:32.800 --> 0:16:36.080 think I just I don't. I don't see why Colin's 0:16:36.120 --> 0:16:38.240 being villainized. I was just talking to Nick about it today. 0:16:38.280 --> 0:16:40.800 It seems like this season of Paradise is just filled 0:16:40.840 --> 0:16:44.360 with hypocrisy, Like everyone is giving Colton crap for what 0:16:44.400 --> 0:16:47.040 he's doing while doing the exact same thing that he's doing. 0:16:47.240 --> 0:16:48.680 And the only reason that we seem to be giving 0:16:48.680 --> 0:16:50.760 Culton Moore crap for it is because they're much more 0:16:50.800 --> 0:16:53.200 of a central focus of the storyline. They're getting more airtime, 0:16:53.200 --> 0:16:56.160 they're getting more interaction between both him and Tia, and 0:16:56.160 --> 0:16:58.240 then other people talking about their interaction as well. So 0:16:58.320 --> 0:17:00.200 like we we just tend to focus on it a 0:17:00.200 --> 0:17:01.760 little bit more. But then you look at it like 0:17:01.840 --> 0:17:04.400 Jordan's doing the same thing, Chris is doing the same thing, 0:17:04.480 --> 0:17:06.600 Kendall is doing the same thing, but no one else 0:17:06.600 --> 0:17:09.120 really seems to be as villainized as much as Colton's 0:17:09.160 --> 0:17:11.280 being right now. And again, I'm not sticking up for Colton. 0:17:11.359 --> 0:17:15.439 I think that. So he got done filming Becca season, 0:17:15.480 --> 0:17:16.880 and then a month and a half later he goes 0:17:16.920 --> 0:17:19.080 to Paradise, and in that month and a half he 0:17:19.080 --> 0:17:21.320 doesn't reach out to Tia, seemingly that he doesn't have 0:17:21.320 --> 0:17:24.000 a conversation with her. Then he strolls into Paradise, takes 0:17:24.000 --> 0:17:26.879 her on a date, kisses her, and then isn't certain 0:17:26.920 --> 0:17:28.720 about what he wants to do. And it just it 0:17:28.920 --> 0:17:32.760 kind of perplexes me, because if one of them felt 0:17:32.760 --> 0:17:34.439 anything for each other, they knew that there was a 0:17:34.480 --> 0:17:38.560