1 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:07,840 Speaker 1: Hey, what up? Welcome in. I'm gug Gotlieb and this 2 00:00:08,640 --> 00:00:11,120 Speaker 1: is All Ball. If you've been linked to this podcast, 3 00:00:11,160 --> 00:00:14,120 Speaker 1: you know that we don't always do basketball. There's an 4 00:00:14,120 --> 00:00:16,360 Speaker 1: amazing t J. Houshmans On one you want to hear 5 00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:19,959 Speaker 1: about a personal story similar to this one, Threat t J. 6 00:00:20,040 --> 00:00:22,639 Speaker 1: Houshman Zata, who also told drugs when he was a 7 00:00:22,720 --> 00:00:26,599 Speaker 1: kid and never graduate did graduated with graduating class a 8 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:30,480 Speaker 1: g D. Just google t J. Houshmanzata in the All 9 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:33,879 Speaker 1: Ball feed and you'll love that one. That's a I mean, 10 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:37,160 Speaker 1: he tells everything as well. Um, but this is part 11 00:00:37,159 --> 00:00:39,479 Speaker 1: three of Threat. So if you haven't listened to part one, 12 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:41,680 Speaker 1: part two, it's not hard to find it downloaded it 13 00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 1: listen you'll be I think blown away. Among the things 14 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:49,000 Speaker 1: he's told us about is, uh, what led to him 15 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:54,360 Speaker 1: failing in the NFL, why he robbed people behind a 16 00:00:54,440 --> 00:00:57,880 Speaker 1: club in Columbus, what he was doing at the time, 17 00:00:58,280 --> 00:01:00,920 Speaker 1: and what led him to go to jail for to 18 00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:03,560 Speaker 1: be confined for four years, and what he did while 19 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:07,040 Speaker 1: he was in jail. We review some of that, plus 20 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:11,399 Speaker 1: how he became a grown up. Right, he's a dad, 21 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:14,759 Speaker 1: he's a leader, he's a big member of his community. 22 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:19,120 Speaker 1: He's also been financially really successful and he actually owns 23 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:22,280 Speaker 1: a drug and alcohol rehab facility. All right, how do 24 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:24,920 Speaker 1: you get from Maurice Claret, the guy who had it 25 00:01:24,959 --> 00:01:28,360 Speaker 1: all to being behind bars to now being the successful 26 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:31,640 Speaker 1: member of society. You'll hear it right now on all 27 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:37,080 Speaker 1: ball if I put you in charge, a guy who's 28 00:01:37,120 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 1: lived this life and now and I follow you. I've 29 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:46,920 Speaker 1: been a fan of this version of you, um for 30 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:50,000 Speaker 1: for a good portion of time. But how is there 31 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 1: a way in which and I know sometimes we're just 32 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:56,080 Speaker 1: too young and too full of bullshit and and desire 33 00:01:56,120 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 1: to conquer the world to actually stop and actually learn 34 00:01:59,800 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 1: some thing and listen to people. How do we get 35 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:06,800 Speaker 1: kids from backgrounds like yours or even back I was 36 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:11,520 Speaker 1: like mine, right, you actually want to learn something? Um. 37 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 1: It's like it's like I say this all the time 38 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:16,520 Speaker 1: about broadcasting. The key to being a good like when 39 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:18,480 Speaker 1: you call in a game is you actually want to 40 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 1: teach somebody. But you don't want to lecture somebody. You 41 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:24,000 Speaker 1: lecture somebody, people turn it off, right, And maybe it's 42 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:27,600 Speaker 1: a different way of teaching, Maybe it's a different subject 43 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:29,920 Speaker 1: matter where you can teach the same lessons. I'm just 44 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:34,760 Speaker 1: wondering because it feels like you love you like you 45 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:37,960 Speaker 1: learned ship all the time. You love learning different stuff now, 46 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:42,360 Speaker 1: and that's what school is supposed to be. Unfortunately it's not, 47 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:45,760 Speaker 1: and it it becomes arduous and there's just a negativity 48 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:49,800 Speaker 1: to it. How do we flip that good good question 49 00:02:49,880 --> 00:02:52,000 Speaker 1: you asked? And I don't those you know, but I 50 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:54,880 Speaker 1: go to UM you con on a regular basis, right, 51 00:02:55,400 --> 00:02:59,040 Speaker 1: and saw connect with a coach, Damn Herring, lead basketball team, 52 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:02,799 Speaker 1: uh specifically for this right, And so I was there 53 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 1: with James Book. I don't know. I'm not sure if you' 54 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:07,560 Speaker 1: fumire with the players, who's right? So I was there 55 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:09,919 Speaker 1: with Boiler I was, and I love I loved any 56 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:15,960 Speaker 1: by the way. So what ended up happening to was 57 00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 1: I go up there and I had the same thing 58 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:20,880 Speaker 1: and it was similar to what he was talking about, 59 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:24,480 Speaker 1: but it also kind of bridges into what you're talking about. 60 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:26,040 Speaker 1: So what I started doing it was like, Okay, I 61 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:27,560 Speaker 1: know these kids. They I don't want to say they 62 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 1: hate school because I don't want to put that on them, 63 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:31,720 Speaker 1: but they were there to play basketball and most kids 64 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 1: have aspirations of attaining some sort of lifestyle that they 65 00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 1: dreamed of through basketball, right. And so what I did 66 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 1: to make learning fun is that I said, okay, separate 67 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:45,920 Speaker 1: what you what you enjoy doing, what is basketball or 68 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:48,400 Speaker 1: what you enjoy doing from how do you make money? 69 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 1: And I didn't make a school base. I just said, 70 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:52,760 Speaker 1: everybody wants to make money. Everybody wants to make a 71 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 1: living for themselves. But let me show you how you 72 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 1: can leverage yourself from your hometown being that that that's 73 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 1: that's the place you have the most social equity. Everybody 74 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 1: wanted to see you grow up and be this big 75 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 1: famous star, and let me show you how that how 76 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 1: to make that work for you and to make a 77 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:09,200 Speaker 1: literal from doing it and doing the being a social 78 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:12,120 Speaker 1: entrepreneur and so on and so forth, and so literally 79 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:14,840 Speaker 1: from from some of the assistant coaches and some of 80 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:17,359 Speaker 1: the players, I set them there down with the white 81 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:19,120 Speaker 1: board and I break down real estate to them. I 82 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:21,040 Speaker 1: break down how I got into the medical field with them, 83 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:25,360 Speaker 1: a breakdown how just just owning equity into different uh 84 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:29,039 Speaker 1: in two different institutions. And I said, and I illustrated 85 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:30,479 Speaker 1: in the way that they can understand it but I 86 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:33,600 Speaker 1: also connect to them and how how their life, how 87 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:36,640 Speaker 1: their skills set, how they experience, how their social equity 88 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:40,440 Speaker 1: towards their environment. Connext to that, and I tell you 89 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:42,800 Speaker 1: this when I leave from a teaching and not from 90 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:45,599 Speaker 1: a lecturing standpoint, I got to connection with all those 91 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:50,960 Speaker 1: motherfucker's right. Uh, you know I'm in constantly because you're real. 92 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 1: And when I when I tell you like this, um, 93 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:57,360 Speaker 1: but that helps me to talk ship with them about 94 00:04:57,480 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 1: just being lazy on the fucking court and not put 95 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:02,479 Speaker 1: and then work and not getting these shots up. It's 96 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 1: easier for them to take that because they understand like, okay, 97 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:08,680 Speaker 1: this dude to just speaking towards like like assisting me 98 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:11,440 Speaker 1: in my life. You know what I'm saying and and 99 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:13,719 Speaker 1: and I don't I don't want to say. That's the 100 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:17,360 Speaker 1: here we go in order to influence somebody, the basic 101 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:19,839 Speaker 1: ship and I influence people in prison. Right, this is 102 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:22,600 Speaker 1: the same thing. How can you help me? Right? It's simple? 103 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:24,520 Speaker 1: Can you help me make some money? Can you help 104 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:26,719 Speaker 1: me move my life forward? Can you help me to 105 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 1: become more than what I am? And I don't give 106 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:29,600 Speaker 1: a funk if you in prison. I don't given an 107 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:31,920 Speaker 1: if you playing at Yukon. I don't care if you're broadcasting, 108 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 1: how can you assist me? If you can't lead with 109 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:38,000 Speaker 1: how you're gonna assist somebody or how the situation can improve, 110 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:40,360 Speaker 1: chances are you're not going to connect with them, right. 111 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:42,920 Speaker 1: I think one thing that I'm good at is that 112 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:45,400 Speaker 1: I've figured out how to make a living for myself 113 00:05:45,960 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 1: and how to do well out sound sport. So that's 114 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:51,200 Speaker 1: the connective tissue with you dudes. Okay, you didn't make 115 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 1: it to the NFL, you didn't do this, but you 116 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 1: live like that. How does that work? Right? And then 117 00:05:55,839 --> 00:05:59,039 Speaker 1: you can explain that in a simple way. That also 118 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:02,799 Speaker 1: understanding and the illustrating that if you want a specific 119 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:05,599 Speaker 1: skill set, if you want to become a mechanical engineer, 120 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:07,880 Speaker 1: if you want to be a physician of some sorts, 121 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 1: or if you want to be like if you want 122 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:11,560 Speaker 1: to do ear nose and throat, or if you want 123 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:13,240 Speaker 1: to be a podegrest you want to be a chiroproctor. 124 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:14,560 Speaker 1: You wanta be a general surgeon, you want to be 125 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 1: a vascular surgeon, a radiologist, go to school for that. 126 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:19,839 Speaker 1: But there's a ton of other ways, and there's a 127 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:22,440 Speaker 1: ton of other skills that the world accepts, right, and 128 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:26,520 Speaker 1: so what happens that these guys they develop all these skills, 129 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:29,440 Speaker 1: they develop all as great as grind, as hustle, but 130 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:34,680 Speaker 1: they're never told like where their skill set goes in life. Right. 131 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:37,560 Speaker 1: All guys who are athletes aren't good in sale. Just 132 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 1: because they're popular. People may know them, but they don't 133 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:43,279 Speaker 1: have initiative, they don't have good social skills, they don't 134 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:48,560 Speaker 1: have good interpersonal skills, and oftentimes frustration comes because they 135 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 1: just try to bunch guys and loop them in and say, 136 00:06:50,640 --> 00:06:52,159 Speaker 1: you know, all you guys should be good at this 137 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:55,160 Speaker 1: because you were good at playing football. What There's a 138 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 1: ton of different personalities, you know what I'm saying, Like 139 00:06:58,040 --> 00:07:00,560 Speaker 1: I can said here and engage with you, and as 140 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 1: I'm talking, I say, I see what this motherfucker is 141 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 1: good in media? Right speak, real clear, engaging, uh, thoughtful 142 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:09,520 Speaker 1: with the stuff that you talked about. And he said, okay. 143 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:13,040 Speaker 1: But then I've been I'll do somebody's podcast or something 144 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 1: I say, man is due as a ship show. You know, 145 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:16,560 Speaker 1: I'm saying, in the back of my mind, not that, 146 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:18,200 Speaker 1: not that, not the degree of our dog. When I 147 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:21,000 Speaker 1: no, no no, I understand. Here, here's the here's the here's 148 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:27,160 Speaker 1: the sports extemple. Okay, so, uh my junior year at 149 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:32,520 Speaker 1: Oaklama State, we were preseason top ten teams and we 150 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:36,000 Speaker 1: were we really struggled, not because we didn't have we 151 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:39,720 Speaker 1: had a really good team, we had super talented. We 152 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 1: had one guy kind of threw into the mix that 153 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 1: he thought he was a gangster too, and that that 154 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 1: that that screwed us up. This day, I think, well 155 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:51,680 Speaker 1: that I think he's better now, but he's certain times. 156 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:55,440 Speaker 1: But the biggest issue was that our best players got him. 157 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:59,240 Speaker 1: Adrian Peterson, Right, Adrian Peterson is third all the time, 158 00:07:59,280 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 1: leads court open mistakes from North Little Rock, Arkansas. He's 159 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:06,280 Speaker 1: a gray dude. So Pizza's nickname. And they try to 160 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 1: make Pete into a vocal leader. A Pete is your team, 161 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 1: says some ships a Pete, you know, and everybody like Pete, 162 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:15,040 Speaker 1: and Pete was funny and he would but he that 163 00:08:15,120 --> 00:08:18,680 Speaker 1: just wasn't his jam, right, that just wasn't who he was. 164 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 1: Like you're trying to trying to make him and what 165 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 1: you're talking about, like it's like Striker, right, Striker sell 166 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:28,520 Speaker 1: his medical sales. Right. They try and get all former 167 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:31,440 Speaker 1: acts like yo, man, not every former athlete is good 168 00:08:31,440 --> 00:08:33,960 Speaker 1: at sitting down and talking to a doctor and understanding 169 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:36,800 Speaker 1: some stuff. You know, there's things that I can't do. 170 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 1: I can I can sit down on anybody and talk 171 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 1: with anybody, but I can't fucking organized ship like I 172 00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:47,760 Speaker 1: am so disorganized in life is crazy. I still don't 173 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:51,640 Speaker 1: have my reimbursements from last year. Like I'm terrible at right. 174 00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:53,920 Speaker 1: So what you're saying is right, which is like you 175 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:58,000 Speaker 1: gotta find It's not just about finding something for them 176 00:08:58,040 --> 00:08:59,720 Speaker 1: to do and connect with you. You got to find 177 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:02,359 Speaker 1: the thing for the right guy, for the right personality. 178 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:04,920 Speaker 1: And there's ways to make money off whoever you are. 179 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:07,280 Speaker 1: However you are one, you gotta be motivated, but to 180 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 1: you kind of gotta find that thing. Yes, and I 181 00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 1: forgot when we were going with the conversation, but you 182 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:17,280 Speaker 1: were talking about you got to sit down and dude, Okay, 183 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:24,280 Speaker 1: So um uh telling about the anxiety stuff because that's fascinating. 184 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:27,120 Speaker 1: I have I have I have two kids who are 185 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 1: on anxiety men Um, it's not as taboo as it 186 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 1: used to be, right Like when I was a little kid. 187 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:36,560 Speaker 1: They try to get and they try and put me 188 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:38,800 Speaker 1: on riddling. My parents lost their minds, and like we 189 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:44,400 Speaker 1: can't put the riddling um the process of understanding social 190 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:48,880 Speaker 1: anxiety disorder and how it affects you. What's that like 191 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:51,840 Speaker 1: for you, because like I'm sure part of you is like, yo, 192 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 1: I've I've been kind of successful in life, Like I 193 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:56,240 Speaker 1: was the best running back in the country with this 194 00:09:56,280 --> 00:09:58,640 Speaker 1: ship going on, I was able to function. But then 195 00:09:58,679 --> 00:10:01,640 Speaker 1: you're like rock bottom. How did you How did you 196 00:10:01,679 --> 00:10:03,840 Speaker 1: come to accept that what you have? How did you 197 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:07,040 Speaker 1: come to understand what's the right medication because not every 198 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:10,640 Speaker 1: medication or for you tech me through the anxiety piece. Yeah, 199 00:10:10,760 --> 00:10:12,960 Speaker 1: so there's two things. I'm glad you asked the last 200 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:16,360 Speaker 1: question because I was a real thing. So I didn't. 201 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:21,000 Speaker 1: So Denver tried to pare me with the psychiatrists, and 202 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:23,679 Speaker 1: I'll resisted her, right, And I thought it was like, 203 00:10:24,640 --> 00:10:26,320 Speaker 1: you know, you come up. You don't think like I 204 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:28,079 Speaker 1: could sit down and talk with somebody and they can 205 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:29,600 Speaker 1: help me to figure something out. You think that you 206 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:31,240 Speaker 1: need to think. You think like there has to be 207 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:34,240 Speaker 1: some tangible thing that that exchanges and takes place to 208 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:37,920 Speaker 1: help you become better. So I pushed her away. So 209 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:40,040 Speaker 1: then when I went to prison. I went on to jail. 210 00:10:40,160 --> 00:10:43,880 Speaker 1: The judge ordered a mental health evaluation before we could 211 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:47,000 Speaker 1: even start the trial. And he did it because he said, like, yo, 212 00:10:47,200 --> 00:10:49,800 Speaker 1: I've seen like you as a regular person, Like you're 213 00:10:49,840 --> 00:10:52,640 Speaker 1: not in your right state of mind to be riding 214 00:10:52,640 --> 00:10:55,200 Speaker 1: around with guns and doing crazy ship. So I go 215 00:10:55,320 --> 00:10:57,959 Speaker 1: through my assessment and the first thing that gave me 216 00:10:58,840 --> 00:11:01,320 Speaker 1: was so fucking strong, like basically like kind of like 217 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:03,800 Speaker 1: um like it was like mild like not not a 218 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:06,480 Speaker 1: mild like yeah, my like molly sedated. And I was 219 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:09,720 Speaker 1: on the toilet one day and I passed out on 220 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:12,400 Speaker 1: the toilet like I was using the bathroom. I'm in prison, 221 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:15,400 Speaker 1: and there was a nurse that she probably literally probably 222 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:17,000 Speaker 1: saved my life. I was on the toill and I 223 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:19,720 Speaker 1: was like woozy, and she's like, nah, man, I know 224 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:21,520 Speaker 1: what they gave you. That's not it. Let me bring 225 00:11:21,520 --> 00:11:24,440 Speaker 1: another psychiatrist in here and let this next person talk 226 00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:26,280 Speaker 1: to you, right. So I talked to the next psychiatrist 227 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:28,959 Speaker 1: and basically the nurse who was inside of jail, she 228 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:32,400 Speaker 1: basically encouraged the doctor to give me something else. Uh, 229 00:11:32,440 --> 00:11:35,640 Speaker 1: and basically the um basically like to help me out 230 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:38,000 Speaker 1: inside of like the side of prison, inside of what 231 00:11:38,040 --> 00:11:40,360 Speaker 1: I was going through. But what I think it helped 232 00:11:40,360 --> 00:11:43,440 Speaker 1: with me the biggest difference was I was able to 233 00:11:43,559 --> 00:11:46,559 Speaker 1: slow down my thinking right where you know, like you 234 00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:48,959 Speaker 1: get like four or five things that you need to do, 235 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:51,000 Speaker 1: and I'm talking about prior to prison, Like, Okay, you 236 00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:52,800 Speaker 1: have to put your career back together. That's not the 237 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:55,240 Speaker 1: easiest thing to do, like as a thirty seven you're 238 00:11:55,240 --> 00:11:58,480 Speaker 1: an adult. If everything fell down now, like I probably 239 00:11:58,520 --> 00:12:00,079 Speaker 1: have the skill set now, but it still would be 240 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:03,320 Speaker 1: an easy thing to do. And so like just feeling 241 00:12:03,320 --> 00:12:06,520 Speaker 1: the feeling of being overwhelmed or you don't know where 242 00:12:06,520 --> 00:12:09,960 Speaker 1: to start and you're getting frustrated, and you know, weed 243 00:12:10,040 --> 00:12:12,480 Speaker 1: and drinking becomes like the way that you sedate yourself 244 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:15,240 Speaker 1: and it feels better, but you actually don't unravel anything, 245 00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:17,160 Speaker 1: and you wake up you probably have more anxiety than 246 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:19,600 Speaker 1: the day before. And so that was like, you know, 247 00:12:19,679 --> 00:12:21,760 Speaker 1: that was like that whole period, you know what I'm saying. 248 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:23,480 Speaker 1: And so you know, once I was incourason and I 249 00:12:23,520 --> 00:12:26,080 Speaker 1: was still for seven months, the first seven months I 250 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:29,120 Speaker 1: was on twenty three hour lockdown and being still and 251 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:32,400 Speaker 1: being medicated, and I tell like this man, never never 252 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:34,240 Speaker 1: underestimate this, and I go through it every day. It 253 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:38,439 Speaker 1: actually in my office right now. Um. But learning how 254 00:12:38,520 --> 00:12:41,240 Speaker 1: to journal and write down my thoughts, stuff that was 255 00:12:41,280 --> 00:12:43,760 Speaker 1: in my head, and learn how to organize it. Like 256 00:12:43,760 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 1: anybody who sees me. Always have a book bag, and 257 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:48,760 Speaker 1: I always have notepads, and so if you're around me, 258 00:12:48,800 --> 00:12:51,120 Speaker 1: I have like a thousand notes and they make they 259 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:53,120 Speaker 1: don't make sense to anybody else but me. Right, So 260 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:55,400 Speaker 1: I'll have pay or four or five notebooks, and I 261 00:12:55,520 --> 00:12:58,720 Speaker 1: have composition notebooks and yellow pads. And if I see 262 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:00,679 Speaker 1: a sticky pad of the fucking hotel, allot grab that 263 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:04,240 Speaker 1: and I'll grab the PM. But that helps me, as 264 00:13:04,280 --> 00:13:05,959 Speaker 1: as crazy as it sound, it helps me to take 265 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:07,200 Speaker 1: it out of my brain, put it on the path 266 00:13:07,240 --> 00:13:09,520 Speaker 1: and look at it, and I can just like, okay, 267 00:13:09,640 --> 00:13:11,679 Speaker 1: like this isn't serious, orr, I can I can throw 268 00:13:11,679 --> 00:13:13,920 Speaker 1: it away. Let me give this to Let me give 269 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:16,240 Speaker 1: this to James, let me give this to ask You, 270 00:13:16,320 --> 00:13:17,760 Speaker 1: let me give this to Mary, let me give this 271 00:13:17,800 --> 00:13:20,160 Speaker 1: to whoever this is supposed to be. This isn't supposed 272 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:22,600 Speaker 1: to be on me, And that helps me to delegate 273 00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:24,440 Speaker 1: my anxiety. You know. So Eve, when you're talking about 274 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:27,640 Speaker 1: you're not organized, right, Like in my world, I may 275 00:13:27,679 --> 00:13:30,040 Speaker 1: not be the best organized person, but I can organize 276 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:32,080 Speaker 1: people around me to help me stay organized, if that 277 00:13:32,080 --> 00:13:34,600 Speaker 1: makes sense, And so they kind of helped to keep me, 278 00:13:35,160 --> 00:13:37,680 Speaker 1: you know, moving moving the way I'm supposed to move, 279 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:44,320 Speaker 1: uh officially, professionally and in the around areas around yourself 280 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:46,559 Speaker 1: with people who do what you don't do or can't 281 00:13:46,559 --> 00:13:50,040 Speaker 1: do and allow them for you. Right right, that's a 282 00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:52,840 Speaker 1: that's you know, it's a it's a it's a it's 283 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:57,120 Speaker 1: it's it's um, I mean, it's it's a little bit 284 00:13:57,120 --> 00:13:59,920 Speaker 1: of admitting like a man, I'm not perfect and just 285 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:03,520 Speaker 1: or ship I can't do right. That's a. Okay, So 286 00:14:03,520 --> 00:14:06,520 Speaker 1: so when did you When did you get out? I 287 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:10,400 Speaker 1: got out in two thousand and tended. Okay, you've been 288 00:14:10,440 --> 00:14:17,520 Speaker 1: behind bars fruit four years, three years and oven months. Yeah. Um. 289 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:20,320 Speaker 1: When when you're in, when you're in and obviously is 290 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:23,640 Speaker 1: different than than it is now, do you know what's 291 00:14:23,640 --> 00:14:25,400 Speaker 1: going on the rest of the world or is there 292 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:28,040 Speaker 1: like a there's like a gap in terms of your 293 00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:32,760 Speaker 1: memory of but it's just life and the states and 294 00:14:32,760 --> 00:14:36,560 Speaker 1: and sports and everything else. You know, do you have 295 00:14:36,680 --> 00:14:38,520 Speaker 1: like a gap in your in your memory in terms 296 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:41,160 Speaker 1: of what else is going on. No, so I knew 297 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:43,880 Speaker 1: everything that was going on because I read a lot. 298 00:14:44,360 --> 00:14:46,000 Speaker 1: So I will get to New York Times, I will 299 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:48,680 Speaker 1: get the Wall Street Journal, and our day and papers 300 00:14:48,680 --> 00:14:50,680 Speaker 1: come a day late. So I said, that's a bad thing. 301 00:14:50,880 --> 00:14:52,520 Speaker 1: And it's not a bad thing because you still think 302 00:14:52,520 --> 00:14:54,600 Speaker 1: it's that day. You know what I'm saying. Are are 303 00:14:54,680 --> 00:14:56,320 Speaker 1: you read them in order? It's not like you see 304 00:14:56,320 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 1: TV and you see something else. But I became like 305 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:02,600 Speaker 1: a nerve man. Uh, And so just imagined for four years, 306 00:15:02,640 --> 00:15:05,000 Speaker 1: I'm locked down for twenty hours of the day. So 307 00:15:05,160 --> 00:15:07,880 Speaker 1: you're you're inside of your housing unit and you locked 308 00:15:07,920 --> 00:15:09,520 Speaker 1: down for twenty hours of the day. You don't go 309 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:11,960 Speaker 1: outside from October to March. You know what I'm saying. 310 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:15,800 Speaker 1: So uh. In this period, um, I was like man 311 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:18,720 Speaker 1: after reading as a man, think of a thousand times. 312 00:15:19,240 --> 00:15:21,400 Speaker 1: They had this thing called Barden Books, and people would 313 00:15:21,400 --> 00:15:24,520 Speaker 1: basically send me, and I say, funk, like I might 314 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:26,000 Speaker 1: as we just figure out something I can do, like 315 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:28,240 Speaker 1: let me learn how to read. Right. So I took 316 00:15:28,280 --> 00:15:31,800 Speaker 1: the same approach towards reading as I did with football. Right, 317 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:33,240 Speaker 1: if you want to become good like I used to 318 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:36,320 Speaker 1: watching endless amounts of film of Walter Payton. I would 319 00:15:36,320 --> 00:15:38,960 Speaker 1: watch Christian Nicoya, I would watch Thurman Thomas, I would 320 00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:41,080 Speaker 1: watch Barry Foster, I would watch Kevin Back, I would 321 00:15:41,080 --> 00:15:43,920 Speaker 1: watch videos. Right, And so I said, okay, let me 322 00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:46,480 Speaker 1: just start reading books and just learn about people, right. 323 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:48,840 Speaker 1: So the first thing I started doing, We'll just start reading, 324 00:15:49,040 --> 00:15:51,000 Speaker 1: like I think the first thing was like self help book. 325 00:15:51,040 --> 00:15:53,600 Speaker 1: Those are the like the natural attraction, just to like 326 00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:56,320 Speaker 1: kick myself up and get my mind in the right place. 327 00:15:56,360 --> 00:15:59,400 Speaker 1: And then I started reading like autobiographies, and I think 328 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:02,400 Speaker 1: the biggest of that was that I just kept on 329 00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:05,760 Speaker 1: telling myself like no matter how funked up it felt, 330 00:16:06,120 --> 00:16:09,040 Speaker 1: I just said, man, I can still accomplish something great 331 00:16:09,080 --> 00:16:12,040 Speaker 1: in my life. Right. So I read from Great People 332 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:15,440 Speaker 1: Are Great stories because I always like to like steal 333 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:17,520 Speaker 1: the mentality of the people who do like big ship. 334 00:16:18,080 --> 00:16:20,160 Speaker 1: And I think, like, if you're going to think and 335 00:16:20,240 --> 00:16:22,480 Speaker 1: you have to think, like, why not just steal the 336 00:16:22,520 --> 00:16:25,600 Speaker 1: person's mentality who like you admire most or who has 337 00:16:25,640 --> 00:16:28,680 Speaker 1: done something like super significant to figure out like that's 338 00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:31,560 Speaker 1: how you should approach something. Fox Sports Radio has the 339 00:16:31,640 --> 00:16:34,560 Speaker 1: best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of 340 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:38,080 Speaker 1: our shows at Fox Sports Radio dot com and within 341 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:40,600 Speaker 1: the I Heart Radio app search f s are to 342 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:43,800 Speaker 1: listen live. Give me a couple like if I'm gonna 343 00:16:44,160 --> 00:16:47,200 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go through kind of the Marie Clurrett process 344 00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:51,760 Speaker 1: of reading autobiographies in terms of because because everyone has 345 00:16:51,760 --> 00:16:56,840 Speaker 1: their own their own you said, accomplishing or doing something great. Again, 346 00:16:56,880 --> 00:16:59,760 Speaker 1: that's very subjective. What would you say, like pick this 347 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:02,800 Speaker 1: that that's a good one to start with. The first 348 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:05,439 Speaker 1: one kind of led me to everything else. Andrew Carneck 349 00:17:06,320 --> 00:17:08,879 Speaker 1: and so Andrew Carnegie had a series of books that 350 00:17:08,920 --> 00:17:11,960 Speaker 1: I read, uh saw read uh as a conversation to 351 00:17:12,040 --> 00:17:15,359 Speaker 1: him and Napoleon Hill. That led me into think and 352 00:17:15,400 --> 00:17:19,680 Speaker 1: grow rich. Then I got onto Warren Buffett and Benjamin Graham. 353 00:17:19,960 --> 00:17:23,640 Speaker 1: Benjamin Graham was his teacher at Columbia. The Warren Buffett 354 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:28,440 Speaker 1: Way uh snowball um uh. There was a series of 355 00:17:28,480 --> 00:17:33,879 Speaker 1: books from Andrew Andrew carneget, Napoleon Hill, Warren Buffett in 356 00:17:33,920 --> 00:17:37,439 Speaker 1: all books kind of written around those guys. And I 357 00:17:37,480 --> 00:17:39,600 Speaker 1: wasn't interested in Bill Gates. You or Bill Gates was 358 00:17:39,800 --> 00:17:42,160 Speaker 1: like a madness at that time. But I knew nothing 359 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:44,359 Speaker 1: about tech, but Warren, what was it? Just basically a 360 00:17:44,400 --> 00:17:47,320 Speaker 1: basic investor And I said, okay, well, you don't have 361 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:49,879 Speaker 1: to be smart to be well. You have to be smart, impatient, 362 00:17:49,880 --> 00:17:52,080 Speaker 1: and discipline to be an investor, but you don't have 363 00:17:52,119 --> 00:17:53,760 Speaker 1: to know tech. And I didn't know anything about tech, 364 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:55,359 Speaker 1: and I'm still not interested in tech, like even though 365 00:17:55,400 --> 00:18:00,640 Speaker 1: it runs our world, which is fucking stupid, right, but um, legitimately, 366 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:03,760 Speaker 1: that's basically who I start reading from. And that kind 367 00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:06,639 Speaker 1: of like set my mind frame in regards to picking books, 368 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:08,840 Speaker 1: Like that's why I picked from Dwayne diet That's one 369 00:18:09,320 --> 00:18:12,080 Speaker 1: I want to uh, Power versus Force by David Hawkins, 370 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:17,159 Speaker 1: trust sending levels of consciousness, truth versus falsehood, um um, 371 00:18:17,160 --> 00:18:20,800 Speaker 1: spirituality versus non spirituality. And I just started reading from 372 00:18:20,840 --> 00:18:23,399 Speaker 1: like Big Principles like Breath from Big Principles of how 373 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:26,600 Speaker 1: to Think, read from Big Principles with how investing work. 374 00:18:26,640 --> 00:18:29,480 Speaker 1: Read from Big Principles. Was just basically how the Titans 375 00:18:29,800 --> 00:18:32,920 Speaker 1: live their life, like my son's name is tightened on purpose, right, 376 00:18:33,600 --> 00:18:35,680 Speaker 1: Like I'm interested, Like they got a good documentary to 377 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:38,480 Speaker 1: men who built America. Uh, you know you you read 378 00:18:38,520 --> 00:18:41,560 Speaker 1: from the Rockefellers. And so it's not like you can 379 00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:45,720 Speaker 1: recreate those industrial times, but you can see just like you, 380 00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:47,840 Speaker 1: you're like, like, who who do you think you are? 381 00:18:48,480 --> 00:18:51,560 Speaker 1: Jeff Bezos elon bust to think that you can do 382 00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:53,960 Speaker 1: what you do right, And I'm pretty sure those guys 383 00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:58,080 Speaker 1: back in the early nineteen hundreds, or as polarizing as 384 00:18:58,880 --> 00:19:02,919 Speaker 1: Bezos is now, where it's his accomplishment seems significant. But 385 00:19:03,119 --> 00:19:04,679 Speaker 1: the fact of the matter is the rest of the 386 00:19:04,720 --> 00:19:06,960 Speaker 1: world will sit on these guys thinking, you know what 387 00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:09,640 Speaker 1: I'm saying. There will be people who mimic has love. 388 00:19:09,680 --> 00:19:11,720 Speaker 1: There will be people who like we we sit we 389 00:19:11,760 --> 00:19:14,240 Speaker 1: still sit on the railroad system that the fucking Rockefellers 390 00:19:14,280 --> 00:19:17,000 Speaker 1: put in place. We still sit on the fucking steel 391 00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:20,200 Speaker 1: industry that got revolutionized and may fucking end up. JP 392 00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:22,920 Speaker 1: Morgan was his fucking account and JP Morgan's chases a 393 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:26,880 Speaker 1: fucking mammoth right now, um, And so you just you know, 394 00:19:27,160 --> 00:19:29,600 Speaker 1: those are those are things I rear from. So I 395 00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:31,280 Speaker 1: don't care if you're in the college dorm with her 396 00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:34,120 Speaker 1: in a prison. When you just start to think as 397 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:36,520 Speaker 1: far as you can think, like it doesn't matter where 398 00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:38,480 Speaker 1: you're at, your just your mind somewhere else, you know 399 00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:41,480 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And so I just did that day 400 00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:43,760 Speaker 1: in and day out, and I got into a habit 401 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:48,000 Speaker 1: of journaling, excuse me, writing fucking notes down every day 402 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:50,760 Speaker 1: in journal and and writing goals down. I remember this 403 00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:54,399 Speaker 1: was two thousand eight, What yours the Olympics? Where you 404 00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:57,560 Speaker 1: saying vote two thousand and eight somewhere around there seven 405 00:19:57,640 --> 00:20:00,320 Speaker 1: eight nine, right, And I remember it was, uh it 406 00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:02,399 Speaker 1: was a picture where he had broke the record, like 407 00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:05,560 Speaker 1: fucking nine five and a hundred or something. But that's 408 00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:07,280 Speaker 1: when I started, like I took that picture out and 409 00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:08,920 Speaker 1: put that up on the wall and put a little 410 00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:12,520 Speaker 1: different affirmations that I would read. And no matter how like, 411 00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:14,080 Speaker 1: no matter how many times I walked out of my 412 00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:16,240 Speaker 1: sale and looked at where I was at, I never 413 00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:18,560 Speaker 1: felt that way like once I started reading. You know 414 00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:19,840 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like if you if you really want 415 00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:22,240 Speaker 1: to say, like what changed my life? Reading changed my life? Right? 416 00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:25,480 Speaker 1: And so, um, there still comes a point to where 417 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:26,920 Speaker 1: you read all this stuff, you still have to act 418 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:29,439 Speaker 1: on it when you get out. But after two thousand 419 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:31,679 Speaker 1: and ten, um, like I was just liking like a 420 00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:33,679 Speaker 1: cerebral state where I was like, man, funk, I can 421 00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:36,800 Speaker 1: just go live life and like, I'll figure it out. 422 00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:40,880 Speaker 1: But there's still a starting point too where you ultimately 423 00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:43,440 Speaker 1: want to get to. And that's basically you know, two 424 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:45,960 Speaker 1: thousand teen came to let me out. Um, I was 425 00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:49,320 Speaker 1: fortunate enough to go out to Omaha, Nebraska. The guy 426 00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:51,640 Speaker 1: who had drafted me in Denver, he had basically got 427 00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:54,280 Speaker 1: cut in Denver. His name was a Tes sun Quist, 428 00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:56,639 Speaker 1: and uh, he was like, hey, we got this new 429 00:20:56,680 --> 00:21:00,199 Speaker 1: startup league coming to Omaha, Nebraska and basically come here 430 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:02,280 Speaker 1: and play ball. And so I went out to Oba, Nebraska, 431 00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:05,119 Speaker 1: I started to play ball. Really was the coolest and 432 00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:08,439 Speaker 1: greatest thing that happened to me, uh, post prison, because 433 00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:12,040 Speaker 1: you know, Omaha Omaha a lot like Oklahoma. So I've 434 00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:13,920 Speaker 1: been to toss a bunch of times, and so you know, 435 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:17,119 Speaker 1: just I like, I like, I was just telling a friend, like, 436 00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:20,240 Speaker 1: Ohmaha is one of the best cities. You're never gonna 437 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:24,520 Speaker 1: be like I'm gonna go like, but it's actually a 438 00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:27,879 Speaker 1: really cool city. So Omaha is the most American city 439 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:31,400 Speaker 1: ever and I've ever been to right. Um, And but 440 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:33,919 Speaker 1: but what I think happens, I think Warren Buffett kind 441 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:36,800 Speaker 1: of keeps everybody in check, right, and I lived there 442 00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:38,879 Speaker 1: for a two and a half years. So like, you 443 00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:41,119 Speaker 1: can't think you're that sweet or fucking Warren Buffetts in 444 00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:43,240 Speaker 1: the town, bro, you know what I'm saying, You can't. 445 00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:45,680 Speaker 1: You can't think you that sweet when this is just 446 00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:47,440 Speaker 1: just you know, you know what I'm saying. And then 447 00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:50,200 Speaker 1: like he's normal blow Joe blow. Like I had a 448 00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:52,680 Speaker 1: chance to sit down with him for five hours one 449 00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:56,960 Speaker 1: on one, and like, um, he's a well read individual, 450 00:21:57,040 --> 00:21:58,919 Speaker 1: so it's like easy to keep a conversation. I had 451 00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:02,800 Speaker 1: read so much from and like, I think he sets 452 00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:05,840 Speaker 1: the tone for the city, bro. Like I just personally 453 00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:08,879 Speaker 1: believe it, Like he sets the tone for the city, 454 00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:11,439 Speaker 1: and I think everybody falls in line from that. You know, 455 00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:14,320 Speaker 1: think about this. He has a lot of industry. At 456 00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:16,800 Speaker 1: this time, he was donating about five million dollars to 457 00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:18,960 Speaker 1: parks his services every year. So you always have like 458 00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:22,280 Speaker 1: beautiful parks and beautiful surfaces, and uh, you have like 459 00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:24,879 Speaker 1: all of these, Um you don't have like a shitty 460 00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:27,080 Speaker 1: side of town, you know what I'm saying. It's just 461 00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:29,840 Speaker 1: I don't know. It's a great city that Um, A 462 00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:31,880 Speaker 1: lot of people just don't know about great fucking food. 463 00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:33,520 Speaker 1: I used to go to all the minor league baseball 464 00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:36,119 Speaker 1: games up there. I used to go to fucking the 465 00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:39,600 Speaker 1: dime hot dogs on fucking Tuesdays at the local restaurant. 466 00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:42,720 Speaker 1: Like I don't I don't know. I loved you when 467 00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:47,560 Speaker 1: you're when you're playing football. Could you flip this? Could 468 00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:49,680 Speaker 1: you flip the switch and go back to gangster mote? 469 00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:53,679 Speaker 1: Or was it different? No? Once I got hit, after 470 00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:55,760 Speaker 1: I got out of prison, I just didn't want to 471 00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:58,000 Speaker 1: do it anymore. But I didn't have an occupation for money, 472 00:22:58,000 --> 00:22:59,800 Speaker 1: so I just stuck it out for two years, just 473 00:22:59,840 --> 00:23:01,479 Speaker 1: be that I know how to do it. But I 474 00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:03,800 Speaker 1: was over football at that point. And uh like, once 475 00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:05,639 Speaker 1: I was able to think, and I said, what am 476 00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:07,879 Speaker 1: I doing this for? Like I was just done with it, 477 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:09,919 Speaker 1: you know what saying. But but I understand. I understood 478 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:12,560 Speaker 1: that they wanted to bring the league and notoriety. I 479 00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:14,840 Speaker 1: understood me coming out of prison was a way for 480 00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:19,119 Speaker 1: them to advertise the league. They had Jeff Garcia, armand Green, 481 00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:21,520 Speaker 1: Dante cal Pepper, and it was just like they were 482 00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:25,040 Speaker 1: trying to drum up information about the league. But you know, 483 00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:27,120 Speaker 1: they essentially paid me two years just to market the league. 484 00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:28,640 Speaker 1: I said, I mean, if you if you really want 485 00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:31,560 Speaker 1: to call it what it is, and um, you know, 486 00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:33,600 Speaker 1: but but but I had a great time in Omaha. 487 00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:35,800 Speaker 1: That's with good friends, still friends with him to this day. 488 00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:39,520 Speaker 1: And I'll be back in October. But you know, just 489 00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:44,679 Speaker 1: it was it was a cool place to transition to. Um. Okay, 490 00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:47,840 Speaker 1: So now one of the big parts of who you 491 00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:51,560 Speaker 1: are and what you do is getting people out, getting 492 00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:55,720 Speaker 1: people up every morning to exercise, to work out, move 493 00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:58,080 Speaker 1: move their body, to open up their mind. When did 494 00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:03,000 Speaker 1: that start? Um? Just and it really it's become a 495 00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:04,639 Speaker 1: thing is how I live my lifestyle. Like you know, 496 00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:09,320 Speaker 1: social media became what it is. Um is this platform 497 00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:11,320 Speaker 1: where you have a reality show in your pocket all day, 498 00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:14,119 Speaker 1: you know, if that's what you choose to do. But 499 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:16,399 Speaker 1: it's also a way of like, you know, just be 500 00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:20,240 Speaker 1: tracking myself for tracking my life and holding myself accountable 501 00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:23,760 Speaker 1: to do the disciplines that I know keep me successful 502 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:26,879 Speaker 1: on track. And so UM, I used to get up 503 00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:28,840 Speaker 1: in prison at six o'clock every morning, but I'll be 504 00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:30,840 Speaker 1: up and working out every morning to then when I 505 00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:33,439 Speaker 1: came back to Ohio, Uh, it was natural for me 506 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:34,879 Speaker 1: to get up at like four or thirty five in 507 00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:38,239 Speaker 1: the morning from being in prisoned all those years. And like, 508 00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:41,760 Speaker 1: I don't think people, I don't think people have ever 509 00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:45,439 Speaker 1: given themselves, uh the opportunity are they just understand the 510 00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:48,240 Speaker 1: benefits of wellness. And so I get up every day. 511 00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:50,200 Speaker 1: I drink my coffee in the same spot every day. 512 00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:52,879 Speaker 1: I have notebooks around me. Every day I write my goals. 513 00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:56,160 Speaker 1: We just had just had Dan Campbell say he gets 514 00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:59,159 Speaker 1: the black guy two black eyes every morning, which is 515 00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:05,400 Speaker 1: VENTI Starbucks or whatever and shot to express though two 516 00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:08,840 Speaker 1: of those. That's a lot. Okay, I drink. I drink 517 00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:11,600 Speaker 1: my philis full brew o Hey with cream and sugar 518 00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:16,239 Speaker 1: every day. I changed drinks. What's your coffee drinking? When 519 00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:19,920 Speaker 1: you get up? So I get four blonde shots. So 520 00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:23,520 Speaker 1: I think four blonde shots from Starbucks. But the morning 521 00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:27,000 Speaker 1: is secured. But my goal to drink right right or hot, 522 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:30,440 Speaker 1: just hot straight, just the hot straight black bone. Just 523 00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:33,960 Speaker 1: go ahead and sit and sit with my with my 524 00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:36,840 Speaker 1: notepad and sit with my goals and write it down. 525 00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:40,720 Speaker 1: And I meditate too. So I'm really big on trying 526 00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:44,880 Speaker 1: to how do you have coffee you meditate that? No, 527 00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:48,280 Speaker 1: So it's all the same. So you're like, I tried this, right, 528 00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:50,960 Speaker 1: so what I do is that, like, so just think 529 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:53,040 Speaker 1: about just like even as we're talking right now, you 530 00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:55,959 Speaker 1: have somewhere that you either want your career to go, 531 00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:59,640 Speaker 1: something you want to accomplish. And you know when when 532 00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:02,240 Speaker 1: you I he has come to your mind, you you 533 00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:04,080 Speaker 1: question them, you know what I'm saying, or you think 534 00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:05,720 Speaker 1: about them, or you double think about him, or you 535 00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:08,440 Speaker 1: think like it's just possible. And I've learned that if 536 00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:11,760 Speaker 1: you can just become comfortable with a thought and only 537 00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:14,800 Speaker 1: be positive about the thought and just ask yourself, why 538 00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:18,240 Speaker 1: are you even question it, it becomes easier to unravel 539 00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:20,439 Speaker 1: what you need to do to make that happen, and 540 00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:22,760 Speaker 1: it becomes allows you to become like this is who 541 00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:25,040 Speaker 1: I need to become to make this happen. And so 542 00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:27,000 Speaker 1: that's like my routine. So I'll get up in and 543 00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:28,879 Speaker 1: like so even if I turn this around, have a 544 00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:31,000 Speaker 1: white board right in front of me, and so I 545 00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:33,480 Speaker 1: get up and I purposely write the stuff down that 546 00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:36,119 Speaker 1: I'm working on at that time. Down again, I'm drinking 547 00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:39,679 Speaker 1: coffee and picturelessly. I've said it's a thousand times, but 548 00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:43,160 Speaker 1: I picture like a man in my mind, just brushing 549 00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:46,000 Speaker 1: out my ears any negative thought, right, So, anything negative 550 00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:49,280 Speaker 1: I feel, any bad emotion, any time my energy feels 551 00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:51,480 Speaker 1: kind of like an authargic, I'm just brushing that out, right. 552 00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:53,760 Speaker 1: And so then I'm trying to harness this feeling like 553 00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:56,479 Speaker 1: this is natural feeling of like Okay, I have to 554 00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:59,359 Speaker 1: do this or me, you have to meet. I want 555 00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:01,320 Speaker 1: this interact going to be great. I'm going to be 556 00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:02,919 Speaker 1: the one to smile at him first and going to 557 00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:05,840 Speaker 1: be the one to like kind of establish what we're doing, 558 00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:08,720 Speaker 1: like just so so we make this a great experience, 559 00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:12,000 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And like every everything that 560 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:13,879 Speaker 1: I do, I want to give myself to that moment, 561 00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:17,040 Speaker 1: but I think about everything like that, right. So then 562 00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:19,560 Speaker 1: after that I go to the gym. And once I 563 00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:22,199 Speaker 1: go to the gym, I feel like whatever energy you 564 00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:24,840 Speaker 1: put us out of that moment for that hour, ninety minutes, 565 00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:27,440 Speaker 1: whatever you do, that's the energy that you have with 566 00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:29,680 Speaker 1: the effort that you have that you give towards to day. 567 00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:32,760 Speaker 1: So the majority time people see me talking, they've seen 568 00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:35,000 Speaker 1: me drink coffee, they see me meditate, they see me 569 00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:37,840 Speaker 1: kind of get going. And so now when I'm working out, 570 00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:41,080 Speaker 1: rather I'm on a treadmill doing sprints, whether I'm lifting weights, 571 00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:42,960 Speaker 1: whether I'm driving to the neighborhood, whether I'm training with 572 00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:45,880 Speaker 1: a little young kid in my neighborhood. It's literally all 573 00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:48,360 Speaker 1: of that stuff every day, just going through that process. 574 00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:51,000 Speaker 1: It's kind of like you're you're you're priming yourself up 575 00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:53,560 Speaker 1: every day to get going. And so I'm thinking about, 576 00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:55,280 Speaker 1: like if I have to go through a deal, if 577 00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:58,080 Speaker 1: it's a little tough, like I've conditioned myself and prepared 578 00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:01,080 Speaker 1: myself to do it right. So then next thing, you know, 579 00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:04,359 Speaker 1: I get in front of the camera, and you know, 580 00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:08,320 Speaker 1: I even hear like people, you know, like the victim mentality, like, um, 581 00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:10,479 Speaker 1: the fucking skies fallen. I tell them, I get your 582 00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:12,679 Speaker 1: motherfucking ass up. You know what I'm saying, because it 583 00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:15,760 Speaker 1: really starts at the starting point is getting your ass 584 00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:17,760 Speaker 1: up and getting the fucking gym or get in front 585 00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:21,800 Speaker 1: of a piece of paper and understanding that where you 586 00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:24,880 Speaker 1: ultimately want to go may take some time, but there's 587 00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:26,840 Speaker 1: still things that you can do on a daily basis 588 00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:30,119 Speaker 1: to help you graduate and get to that space. And 589 00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:32,320 Speaker 1: you know, it's just it's just a sense of encouragement, 590 00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:34,600 Speaker 1: but then also to myself and just me talking to myself, 591 00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:37,679 Speaker 1: because you know, I don't feel enthused and encouraged and 592 00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:40,440 Speaker 1: inspirational every day, you know what I'm saying. But whether 593 00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:42,280 Speaker 1: I like it or not, I still get my ass up. 594 00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:46,120 Speaker 1: I still keep sucking going um in along the way, 595 00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:48,600 Speaker 1: you see things that you that you've written on a 596 00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:51,680 Speaker 1: white board, that you've accomplished, um and it starts to 597 00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:54,160 Speaker 1: make sense. And so you know that's kind of you know, 598 00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:57,480 Speaker 1: it's kind of like where I'm at with life. Um. 599 00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:02,800 Speaker 1: You know, it's it's taking in play football, um whatever, 600 00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:05,400 Speaker 1: he whatever he feels like doing. You know, we're right 601 00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:07,680 Speaker 1: right now. He's one years old. He's a he's a 602 00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:11,160 Speaker 1: fucking tape. He's strong. He climbs on everything, he falls 603 00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:13,120 Speaker 1: off of everything he likes. So first of all, he's 604 00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:15,680 Speaker 1: gonna be rough. I'll tell this is what is this? 605 00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:18,440 Speaker 1: Since is uh July? I know this is August, whatever 606 00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:22,160 Speaker 1: it is, I'm telling you right now, he's rough, right, 607 00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:24,920 Speaker 1: And so like we'll go outside and I'll putty more 608 00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:27,560 Speaker 1: on the swing setting the back. You know, he got 609 00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:30,000 Speaker 1: the monkey bars he called across. You know, he hold 610 00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:31,840 Speaker 1: himself up there and have a have a grip, and 611 00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:33,560 Speaker 1: I was like, fule do this one years old. He 612 00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:36,120 Speaker 1: has a grip like this and he's strong, So I 613 00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:38,880 Speaker 1: think that he will be attracted or he'll be he'll 614 00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:40,680 Speaker 1: want to do something physical, you know what I'm saying. 615 00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:44,160 Speaker 1: Just because he's just he's a sucking barrel. But like 616 00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:46,600 Speaker 1: the irony you're talking about this, I was ready to 617 00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:49,840 Speaker 1: sprints this morning to track. And what I want to 618 00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:53,360 Speaker 1: teach him is that whatever you do, just pursue it 619 00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:55,479 Speaker 1: because you want to be excellent in it. Don't pursue 620 00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:57,440 Speaker 1: it because you have to buy mommy and Daddy your 621 00:29:57,440 --> 00:29:58,680 Speaker 1: house so you have to get us out of the 622 00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:01,240 Speaker 1: neighborhood or you know, if you will gets the world. 623 00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:05,000 Speaker 1: And we sometimes we create these narratives in our head, uh, 624 00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:07,360 Speaker 1: and that becomes the purpose of your life, you know 625 00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:10,040 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. But like, pursue if it's like, if 626 00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:11,959 Speaker 1: you want to go do fucking whatever you want to do, bro, 627 00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:14,800 Speaker 1: just pursue the highest level of it, just because that's 628 00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:17,200 Speaker 1: the way it's supposed to be done. And if he's 629 00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:19,480 Speaker 1: gonna play sports, all right, we're not playing for money, 630 00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:21,560 Speaker 1: We're not playing for that. That like that that will 631 00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:23,920 Speaker 1: come if you're good enough, right, But what we're gonna 632 00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:27,600 Speaker 1: play is because, motherfucker, you're supposed to be playing to 633 00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:29,200 Speaker 1: be the best of the crame for be the best 634 00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:30,560 Speaker 1: of what you're doing. You might not be there to 635 00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:33,000 Speaker 1: day one or day two, but that's what I'm promote. So, Like, 636 00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:36,080 Speaker 1: I got a daughter, she's uh, she's fifteen and eleventh grade, 637 00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:39,960 Speaker 1: and we've never I've never promoted sports to her, but 638 00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:42,720 Speaker 1: I tell her, when you go play basketball, like, and 639 00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:44,800 Speaker 1: I think one of the coolest things of this is 640 00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:48,720 Speaker 1: that in the classroom she dominates. When on the basketball court, 641 00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:51,560 Speaker 1: she gets her asking right. And I love it as 642 00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:54,400 Speaker 1: a parent because it brings balance, right and lets you 643 00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:56,480 Speaker 1: know that you're not good in every fucking thing you do, 644 00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:58,960 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And you know, she's fifteen, 645 00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:01,680 Speaker 1: so she she skipped grades, right, So she's a smart kid. 646 00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:04,800 Speaker 1: Uh she you know, she'll graduate a six fifteen and 647 00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:07,720 Speaker 1: a half sixteen or something like that. But I kind 648 00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:10,360 Speaker 1: of like things that bring balance, you know what I'm saying. 649 00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:13,040 Speaker 1: Because if you're dominating the sports, so you dominate like 650 00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:15,200 Speaker 1: a fifteen year old girl gonna ask you by eight 651 00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:17,640 Speaker 1: year old girl, you know what I'm saying, just physically, 652 00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:20,640 Speaker 1: just emotionally, just just you know, you've been doing something longer. 653 00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:23,480 Speaker 1: So um, we were preaching a lot of a good 654 00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:26,680 Speaker 1: messaging the same message into our kids. Um. You know 655 00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:28,480 Speaker 1: we've been with the same woman for sixteen and a 656 00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:32,600 Speaker 1: half years now. Uh so our family's intact. Um. But 657 00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:34,600 Speaker 1: but all in all, man, you know, I don't know 658 00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:36,360 Speaker 1: I have I have a have a great life. I'll 659 00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:41,720 Speaker 1: say that. Um. Okay, you talk about your goals and 660 00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:45,000 Speaker 1: and things. You right down in the next So in 661 00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:48,040 Speaker 1: the last ten years, you got you got out of jail, 662 00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:51,240 Speaker 1: you got your ship together. Okay, you become a guy 663 00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:54,480 Speaker 1: who people point to bring to talk to young people. 664 00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:59,920 Speaker 1: You've gotten into investing, got into medical stuff as well. Okay, 665 00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:02,920 Speaker 1: what's the next ten years? Like, if we sit down, 666 00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:05,080 Speaker 1: we do this in ten years, what's the next ten 667 00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:08,840 Speaker 1: years gonna have a slice? I would just say growing 668 00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:14,360 Speaker 1: what I do. So in particular, so, UM, I have 669 00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:17,840 Speaker 1: a drug and alcohol rehab facility that we uh. We 670 00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:21,000 Speaker 1: we probably service about six hundred kids in Young Sound 671 00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:24,440 Speaker 1: City schools in my hometown, and we probably service about 672 00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:27,520 Speaker 1: six year seven to seventy adults. We house them who 673 00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:31,640 Speaker 1: basically come from prisons, jails. UH court systems are just 674 00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:35,000 Speaker 1: have some sort of transitional issues, right I would like 675 00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:38,000 Speaker 1: to grow that organically. I don't want to reach and 676 00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:40,360 Speaker 1: market anywhere. I just want to grow that organically because 677 00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:42,160 Speaker 1: I think that that is like the core who I am, 678 00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:44,640 Speaker 1: and it's probably some of the most rewarding work in 679 00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:48,000 Speaker 1: which we do. I also have a partner to have 680 00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:52,040 Speaker 1: three other partners that we do foot and aco centers, 681 00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:55,160 Speaker 1: potatary centers. We have. We own about twenty two practices 682 00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:58,160 Speaker 1: right now, and I would love to continue to grow 683 00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:01,640 Speaker 1: that the way that we do. We also own some 684 00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:04,680 Speaker 1: vascular surgery centers, a handful of them here are not 685 00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:07,160 Speaker 1: a handful three of them here in Ohio right now, 686 00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:11,000 Speaker 1: and our goal is to continue to grow podiatric services. 687 00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:14,320 Speaker 1: Our goal is to continue to grow vascular surgery centers 688 00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:16,760 Speaker 1: across the state. Are in other states, I tell you 689 00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:19,360 Speaker 1: like this. We're thinking about going to Oklahoma next part 690 00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:22,640 Speaker 1: and connecting with some of the Indian tribes. But that's 691 00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:25,960 Speaker 1: a whole different story. And UH, I do affordable housing, 692 00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:30,240 Speaker 1: so I have um a decent amount of real estate 693 00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:34,240 Speaker 1: that we provide affordable housing for people in inner cities. 694 00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:37,520 Speaker 1: And that's part of like my social mission. So I 695 00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:40,840 Speaker 1: would just like to continue to just be a social entrepreneur. 696 00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:44,680 Speaker 1: You know, in regards to proprietary and vascular services, I 697 00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:46,680 Speaker 1: think we are doctors that we have on staff and 698 00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:48,800 Speaker 1: do a great job, and we helped to save limbs 699 00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:51,040 Speaker 1: with a vascul surgery center. You know a lot of 700 00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:53,640 Speaker 1: people who have diabetes or who have lost circulation and 701 00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:56,959 Speaker 1: have black toes, are poor circulation to their feet. I 702 00:33:57,000 --> 00:34:00,120 Speaker 1: think that we've created a ways better than hospitals for 703 00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:03,560 Speaker 1: people to get service as administered to them. Um. We 704 00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:08,160 Speaker 1: have houses fifteen and twenty years old that we are 705 00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:11,680 Speaker 1: able to subsidize and provide great housing for people and 706 00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:14,200 Speaker 1: inner cities who may have sheeting who would normally have 707 00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:16,920 Speaker 1: chitty housing or who would live in apartments in some 708 00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:20,000 Speaker 1: other capacity. And so for me, you know, to to 709 00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:22,080 Speaker 1: grow in that space and to do things that make 710 00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:27,440 Speaker 1: sense socially. I do believe in uh entrepreneurship and making 711 00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:29,880 Speaker 1: money and being a capitalist. And so when you can 712 00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:32,640 Speaker 1: kind of create situations where you can make a great 713 00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:35,960 Speaker 1: circumstance for everybody, where you can provide a great service 714 00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:39,520 Speaker 1: and help people and make money, um and do right 715 00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:41,680 Speaker 1: and sleep well at night. Uh, That's that's all I 716 00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:43,160 Speaker 1: want to do. You know, I don't I don't have 717 00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:46,040 Speaker 1: like a figure our dollar amount that I want to make, 718 00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:48,040 Speaker 1: you know, I want to do meeting for you know, 719 00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:50,319 Speaker 1: so like I'll tell this right when I get off 720 00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:53,520 Speaker 1: this phone call. Um, I'm going to feel like this 721 00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:56,360 Speaker 1: was time well spent, like just having a good conversation 722 00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:58,840 Speaker 1: with somebody, like it meant something like part of my 723 00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:01,040 Speaker 1: life with this video or live forever. I don't care 724 00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:03,160 Speaker 1: if one person watches the our thousand people watch you Like, 725 00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:05,200 Speaker 1: I just want to spend my time. I felt like, Yo, 726 00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:07,520 Speaker 1: I had a good conversation with somebody. Are you know 727 00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:09,080 Speaker 1: I don't want to waste time? You know what I'm saying. 728 00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:10,480 Speaker 1: I think I think if anything, like if I go 729 00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:13,200 Speaker 1: over the past decade to know that you you spend 730 00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:15,520 Speaker 1: your time doing meaningful ship, You spend your time doing 731 00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:18,600 Speaker 1: things you enjoy. You spend your time like um, you 732 00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:21,120 Speaker 1: spend your time investing to your kids to be like 733 00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:23,880 Speaker 1: decent human things. You know what I'm saying, are the 734 00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:25,879 Speaker 1: people who you do business with, like y'all are just 735 00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:28,239 Speaker 1: like good people like or even the people around you, 736 00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:30,560 Speaker 1: your staff members and people who are connected to you. 737 00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:32,719 Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure everybody feels like that where you want 738 00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:35,279 Speaker 1: to have like like you want to say like like 739 00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:37,520 Speaker 1: and I look at like like you play video games. 740 00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:41,520 Speaker 1: Everybody played video game before, right, and everybody's life has 741 00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:43,520 Speaker 1: like you know how like when you play like Mortal Kombat, 742 00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:45,360 Speaker 1: and your life keep on going down and down and 743 00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:48,279 Speaker 1: down once you get hit. I look at life like that, bro, 744 00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:51,560 Speaker 1: and like we only have so much life energy, you 745 00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:54,640 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, And like I don't. I don't 746 00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:56,000 Speaker 1: look at the age, but you're just like you know, 747 00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:58,440 Speaker 1: your body, your mind, your brain, you only have so 748 00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:00,200 Speaker 1: much life energy. Like who are you going to spend 749 00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:02,200 Speaker 1: it around? You know what I'm saying? Is it going 750 00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:04,360 Speaker 1: to be meaningful? Like? Are you gonna hold onto like 751 00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:08,360 Speaker 1: stupid ass grudges? Are you gonna fucking spew hate towards people? 752 00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:11,600 Speaker 1: Are you going to be confrontational? Are you gonna not 753 00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:14,000 Speaker 1: for fucking standard doing what's right? And so like my 754 00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:17,920 Speaker 1: mom being those spaces. Now here's my here's my big 755 00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:21,320 Speaker 1: big question. Okay, because mentioned anxiety, you've been through a 756 00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:23,960 Speaker 1: lot of ships. Okay, somebody's growing yourself some of its 757 00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:28,400 Speaker 1: life Okay, somebody who didn't have anybody saying like, no, dude, right, 758 00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:31,640 Speaker 1: there's all kinds of different, but I do get in 759 00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:36,160 Speaker 1: your voice like a lot a lot of people when 760 00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:39,640 Speaker 1: they get to that place, they lose hope and it 761 00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:42,600 Speaker 1: doesn't feel like and you did go through depression and 762 00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:45,919 Speaker 1: depression is you know you are are losing hope. If 763 00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:50,880 Speaker 1: somebody is listening to this pot okay, somebody's listening to 764 00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:54,680 Speaker 1: the spot and they say, man, how how does he 765 00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:58,279 Speaker 1: stay so positive? Man like? Because again, like you can 766 00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:01,840 Speaker 1: and I know what you're I something you said resonated 767 00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:04,080 Speaker 1: really well with me, which is you know, it's it's 768 00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:07,560 Speaker 1: basically like life is what you make of it. Every day, 769 00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:09,960 Speaker 1: in every situation is what you make of you know. 770 00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:14,279 Speaker 1: But I guarantee there's somebody's gonna listen to like due 771 00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:17,360 Speaker 1: to use, Maurice Clarett is the best freshman in the country. 772 00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:19,640 Speaker 1: He could have been the best, like you're talking about. 773 00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:21,839 Speaker 1: Ohio State has had all these great Heisman Trophy winning 774 00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:24,600 Speaker 1: running backs and gone on to greatness and they think, well, 775 00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:27,240 Speaker 1: you you kicked away a great career. But the truth 776 00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:29,280 Speaker 1: is that if you actually listen to what you're saying, 777 00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:33,280 Speaker 1: like this part of life might not have been possible 778 00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:35,759 Speaker 1: if not for all the ship you did right, like, 779 00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:38,120 Speaker 1: you may have been in a worst place having more 780 00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:43,640 Speaker 1: success in football. That's that's the reality of it. But um, 781 00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:48,160 Speaker 1: if if if, if somebody's in that negative space, okay, 782 00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:58,279 Speaker 1: and what of reading obviously right the body, next exercise? 783 00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:00,759 Speaker 1: But how do you get somebody? I mean lots of 784 00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:02,400 Speaker 1: kids they sit in that dark room and they're on 785 00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:04,600 Speaker 1: their device and they're looking at other people on I 786 00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:06,440 Speaker 1: G and they think everybody's got it better than me. 787 00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:09,640 Speaker 1: I got a chitty? What's that? What's that first step 788 00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:11,759 Speaker 1: in getting up out of bed, getting up off that 789 00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:14,440 Speaker 1: couch and getting your ass into a more positive place. 790 00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:18,600 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with my favorite thing, my favorite and 791 00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:23,000 Speaker 1: things that I actually do, not some bullshit fucking um 792 00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:27,120 Speaker 1: positive motivational saying get your I'm gonna give the reason 793 00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:30,720 Speaker 1: behind it. Get up before you're supposed to get up right, 794 00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:33,200 Speaker 1: And the biggest thing is that you're able to spend 795 00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:36,239 Speaker 1: time with yourself. People don't spend time with themselves right. 796 00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:39,000 Speaker 1: So if something is hurting you, something is bothering you, 797 00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:42,240 Speaker 1: or you feel hopeless, there's typically a reason because nobody 798 00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:44,880 Speaker 1: gets dumped out of their mother's vagina and they just say, 799 00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:48,400 Speaker 1: I'm sucking hopeless. Usually there's some conditions are something that 800 00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:52,279 Speaker 1: happens to you that you have haven't unraveled in here, right, 801 00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:57,120 Speaker 1: And I say meditating goal right in journal, because those 802 00:38:57,120 --> 00:38:59,360 Speaker 1: are your thoughts and that's the stuff that you're dumping 803 00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:02,400 Speaker 1: on paper. And as you can see something like you 804 00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:05,520 Speaker 1: can start to categorize the sail, Okay, like well maybe 805 00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:08,120 Speaker 1: maybe I like here we go. I go to therapy 806 00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:09,880 Speaker 1: as well too, so I don't I don't want to 807 00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:12,360 Speaker 1: minimize that. Right. So, just as when a person is 808 00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:13,680 Speaker 1: physically weak and they don't know what to do, what 809 00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:15,799 Speaker 1: they gonna do, they get a fucking trainer, right, I 810 00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:17,960 Speaker 1: go to therapy on a consistent basis right down here 811 00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:21,080 Speaker 1: in on how State, and I own a therapeutic I 812 00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:24,320 Speaker 1: want to behavior health center, right and getting with somebody 813 00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:26,799 Speaker 1: who can help you to organize or make sense of 814 00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:30,840 Speaker 1: what's going through your mind. I felt hopeless, I felt restless, 815 00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:33,520 Speaker 1: couldn't go to sleep. I denied medication because I was 816 00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:35,480 Speaker 1: like funking, I don't want to medication. Medication is the 817 00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:38,120 Speaker 1: best fucking thing to happened to me. It gave me. 818 00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:42,239 Speaker 1: It gave me the assistance to chemically feel better, to 819 00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:45,239 Speaker 1: get myself back in motion. My lady of sixteen and 820 00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:47,760 Speaker 1: a half years, she's a fucking diabetic, Her fucking pancreas 821 00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:49,279 Speaker 1: doesn't work. You know, if they give her and give 822 00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:51,799 Speaker 1: her fucking incident, I'm pretty sure she wished she can 823 00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:53,719 Speaker 1: wake up and say, oh, my fucking pacer is working. 824 00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:56,320 Speaker 1: I don't need to shoot myself every day, but sometimes 825 00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:58,160 Speaker 1: when you're in a shitty space, or if you sucking 826 00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:00,640 Speaker 1: sprain the ankle, are you fucking a c L what 827 00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:02,279 Speaker 1: do you do? You go get some assistance. You gonna 828 00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:05,720 Speaker 1: get some help because my fucking body partist fucking fractured 829 00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:08,719 Speaker 1: and I need some assistance. And so the fact that 830 00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:11,600 Speaker 1: everybody in America fucking can have access to health care, 831 00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:14,040 Speaker 1: I'm telling you you can get on your fucking phone 832 00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:17,439 Speaker 1: and talk to a therapist and sitting and breaking yourself down, 833 00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:20,040 Speaker 1: breaking your mind down, breaking your thoughts down, breaking down 834 00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:22,360 Speaker 1: was going on in your life, right, that's from a 835 00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:26,360 Speaker 1: mental standpoint. I don't care what a person believes in religiously, 836 00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:29,120 Speaker 1: but I think you have to have some sort of spiritual, 837 00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:33,080 Speaker 1: universal religious sort of grounding to yourself. Right. I'm not 838 00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:35,120 Speaker 1: saying believe in the higher power. I'm not saying that 839 00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:37,520 Speaker 1: the devil was upunder the ground with a pitch for right. 840 00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:40,319 Speaker 1: But I think that every human being has to have 841 00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:45,320 Speaker 1: some moral compass, some integrity, or some sort of foundation 842 00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:47,799 Speaker 1: which they make decisions off of. Right. And that's why 843 00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:52,080 Speaker 1: I gravitated to David Hawkins. David Hawkins wasn't a Christian. 844 00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:54,120 Speaker 1: He wasn't and this is where I started at. He 845 00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:56,560 Speaker 1: wasn't like a Christian some Muslim. He was just talking 846 00:40:56,560 --> 00:41:00,680 Speaker 1: about spirituality in general, right, Just spirituality, life and power 847 00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:03,720 Speaker 1: versus force, transcending levels of conscious you being more aware, 848 00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:07,319 Speaker 1: you being more awake. Right. So, hopelessness is just a 849 00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:10,600 Speaker 1: state of consciousness. Right, When you feel hopeless, there's a 850 00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:13,640 Speaker 1: certain mentality, certain moods, of certain feelings that's attracted to that. 851 00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:17,000 Speaker 1: As you become aware and more awakened and you become 852 00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:20,839 Speaker 1: more loving and more grateful and thankful, your mind and 853 00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:22,920 Speaker 1: how you feel towards the world just starts to change. 854 00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:25,640 Speaker 1: These are just things I went through. I think every 855 00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:27,960 Speaker 1: individual needs to do something physical. I don't give a 856 00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:30,320 Speaker 1: funk if he's jogging. I don't think his biking. I 857 00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:33,640 Speaker 1: don't give a funk whatever it is, lifting heavy weights, struggling. 858 00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:37,000 Speaker 1: I think, go play fucking basketball, Go play hockey, Go rollerblade. 859 00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:40,120 Speaker 1: I think everybody should be exerting something to sweat to 860 00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:43,840 Speaker 1: just basically pick up your endorphins and you naturally feel 861 00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:45,600 Speaker 1: better about yourself. I don't care who you are, I 862 00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:47,880 Speaker 1: don't care what sort of conditioning tree am and that 863 00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:50,960 Speaker 1: thus space. I think you need to do something that's meaningful, right. 864 00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:54,520 Speaker 1: I think people trick themselves into believing that every action 865 00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:56,720 Speaker 1: they have to take has to bring money for something. 866 00:41:57,120 --> 00:41:59,800 Speaker 1: I think like as great as money can be in America, 867 00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:03,000 Speaker 1: and rewind the ship because it's real, because this is 868 00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:05,839 Speaker 1: how I got my own fucking way do ship. You 869 00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:09,399 Speaker 1: enjoy doing, like things that you really just enjoy doing, 870 00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:11,359 Speaker 1: Like what what you enjoy doing and how you make 871 00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:13,399 Speaker 1: money or two different things. Right, you need to learn 872 00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:15,200 Speaker 1: how to make money because you have to live in America. 873 00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:17,279 Speaker 1: You have to have like sucking some sort of like 874 00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:20,719 Speaker 1: financial stability, but you have to do what you enjoy doing. 875 00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:22,160 Speaker 1: You know what I like to do. I like to 876 00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:24,279 Speaker 1: hit the heavy bag every fucking day, So you know 877 00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:26,200 Speaker 1: what I do? I hate to hev you bag every 878 00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:29,839 Speaker 1: fucking day. Every day. When I get off on this call, 879 00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:31,400 Speaker 1: I have something else to do like that, but I 880 00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:34,400 Speaker 1: schedule a gap. I'm gonna go down here for ten rounds. 881 00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:36,799 Speaker 1: I'm gonna hit the heavy bag. And I enjoy hitting 882 00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:38,759 Speaker 1: the heavy bag, and I just like the coolest ship 883 00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:41,000 Speaker 1: in the world to me, and I just enjoy the 884 00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:42,960 Speaker 1: effort it takes to hit the heavy back. I like 885 00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:46,360 Speaker 1: to run in the morning. But for a person to 886 00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:49,920 Speaker 1: say that they're hopeless, these are things that don't cost money. 887 00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:52,520 Speaker 1: These are things that take personal effort. These are things 888 00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:54,800 Speaker 1: that you can just start to put rigor and discipline 889 00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:58,520 Speaker 1: in your life and from that just implementing that discipline, 890 00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:03,000 Speaker 1: implementing in personal discipline. Let me write my thoughts down, 891 00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:05,120 Speaker 1: let me write my goals down, let me write my direction. 892 00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:07,319 Speaker 1: Even if you don't have some elaborate grow right, so 893 00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:10,080 Speaker 1: you can take over ten years, I just say, hey, man, 894 00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:12,799 Speaker 1: I want to be here to like just think about this. 895 00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:15,840 Speaker 1: Go go look fifteen years ago and ask yourself, do 896 00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:18,239 Speaker 1: you ever see me fucking own the medical practice? Move? 897 00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:21,759 Speaker 1: But you make yourself a little bit better, right, and 898 00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:24,040 Speaker 1: what happens somebody sees you? Do you make yourself a 899 00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:26,799 Speaker 1: little bit better and if somebody sees you, do you 900 00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:29,400 Speaker 1: make yourself a little bit better? Did you get momentum? 901 00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:31,560 Speaker 1: And then over the years I tell this to this, 902 00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:36,040 Speaker 1: this actually helps quit doing everything for money and quit 903 00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:39,279 Speaker 1: thinking that you have to be somewhere at some time 904 00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:42,799 Speaker 1: like I'm thirty something and I have to be doing this. 905 00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:47,360 Speaker 1: I'm thirty something. I have to be living, create create 906 00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:52,279 Speaker 1: anxiety and it it blocks, it blocks enjoyment and kind 907 00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:55,759 Speaker 1: of blocks the process of growth right where you you know, 908 00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:59,719 Speaker 1: don't make a defendive timeline, just it's it's a it's 909 00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:03,759 Speaker 1: a it's a progressive it completely resonates completely. So we 910 00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:05,439 Speaker 1: just think about this, right, so we want to build 911 00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:08,160 Speaker 1: this massive company. Right, So what if I woke up 912 00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:10,520 Speaker 1: and we just had this massive company today? What would 913 00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:13,840 Speaker 1: I do? I would still do the same ship. I 914 00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:16,160 Speaker 1: would still go hit the heavy back. I would still 915 00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:18,800 Speaker 1: get up in the morning to run, but I would 916 00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:21,520 Speaker 1: have missed the whole journey. Like half of our jokes 917 00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:23,520 Speaker 1: between me and our business partners, right, so just think 918 00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:26,000 Speaker 1: about this. Half of our jokes is talking about the 919 00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:28,400 Speaker 1: ship that we're going through. You know what I'm saying, Like, 920 00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:30,560 Speaker 1: could you believe this? Could you believe that? Could you 921 00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:34,920 Speaker 1: believe this? Like that's the fucking that's the like, that's 922 00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:38,799 Speaker 1: the joy, like talking about like we we have conversation 923 00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:40,720 Speaker 1: of like how we even came together as a group, 924 00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:43,359 Speaker 1: and who was feeling who out and who we're making 925 00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:45,560 Speaker 1: jokes about personalities of ship, you know what I'm saying. 926 00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:49,400 Speaker 1: But that's the that's the joy. You don't if you 927 00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:53,200 Speaker 1: don't go to the wrong exit, right, you don't go 928 00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:57,160 Speaker 1: the wrong exit. It's a different if if we're doing 929 00:44:57,160 --> 00:44:59,480 Speaker 1: this from we're doing this from prison, that's what we're 930 00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:00,840 Speaker 1: real we're doing this president. If you don't go at 931 00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:03,799 Speaker 1: the wrong age, right, do you do you feel coming 932 00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:08,479 Speaker 1: from that day? So I'm so reflective in my life. 933 00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:12,000 Speaker 1: So actually, if you want to credit that thing Charlie 934 00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:16,239 Speaker 1: Monger's Old Charlie's Almanac, warm Buffer's partner. He said, you 935 00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:19,359 Speaker 1: don't start living life until you can retrace your life 936 00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:23,239 Speaker 1: and connect every moment. He says, you don't even understand it. 937 00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:30,040 Speaker 1: So I spend more time reflecting and trying to take 938 00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:32,800 Speaker 1: all moments of how they got here, all moments of 939 00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:34,560 Speaker 1: how I got this, thinking how do I do that? 940 00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:37,840 Speaker 1: If you if you haven't read it. Old Charlie's Almanac 941 00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:40,840 Speaker 1: is a beautiful fucking book with a bunch of wisdom. 942 00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:43,000 Speaker 1: And if you like, even on Instagram, I don't know 943 00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:44,640 Speaker 1: who runs his account because I know he doesn't want 944 00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:47,400 Speaker 1: he doesn't run it, but somebody takes his quote Charlie 945 00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:49,600 Speaker 1: Mongers quote is just a bunch of life wisdom, right, 946 00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:51,960 Speaker 1: And it's really there wasn't that him and Warren Buffett 947 00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:55,640 Speaker 1: kind of invested how they become Berkshire Hathward. Right. But 948 00:45:55,800 --> 00:46:00,080 Speaker 1: it's just like like beautiful thinking, modern day philosophy. You 949 00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:04,560 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Um, just just beautiful fucking thinking, bro, 950 00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:06,400 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But like that's that's like, 951 00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:09,520 Speaker 1: that's to me, that's life, you know what I mean. Um, 952 00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:11,479 Speaker 1: that's how that's how you get off the fucking punk 953 00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:15,239 Speaker 1: and like do think, like do something you enjoy. I'm 954 00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:16,600 Speaker 1: gonna tell you this as an adult. You know what 955 00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:18,799 Speaker 1: I like doing too. I will go on a three 956 00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:22,000 Speaker 1: hour walk, just go walk. Nothing else. I don't need 957 00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:24,760 Speaker 1: no music, I don't need nothing, I don't need anything else. 958 00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:27,279 Speaker 1: I'll put on my fucking sneakers, I put on some 959 00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:29,319 Speaker 1: shorts and throw on a t shirt and I'll just 960 00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:32,960 Speaker 1: go walk and literally I will appreciate just the architecture, 961 00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:35,719 Speaker 1: the neighborhood. I sell, Okay, these cool, these people they 962 00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:37,640 Speaker 1: like these type of one thoughs like, okay, they could 963 00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:39,640 Speaker 1: have did better with their paint. And because their shingles 964 00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:44,640 Speaker 1: don't master paint. You know what's right? Just this simple 965 00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:47,160 Speaker 1: I call fucking true green out. I said, my lawn 966 00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:49,319 Speaker 1: isn't looking the way I walk to just because I 967 00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:52,799 Speaker 1: just appreciate a fucking green lawn. But I don't like 968 00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:55,279 Speaker 1: you couldn't. I couldn't have been in the courtroom talking 969 00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:57,280 Speaker 1: about a green law. Bro. You know what I'm saying. 970 00:46:58,080 --> 00:47:00,720 Speaker 1: But that's the beauty of it all. Oh, you grow 971 00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:03,920 Speaker 1: and you experience and you and you just start to 972 00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:07,400 Speaker 1: get different activities. And I don't given where you're at, bro, Like, 973 00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:09,760 Speaker 1: no matter how depressed somebody is, man, you can fucking 974 00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:12,680 Speaker 1: make it through any situation. And I'll tell you this. 975 00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:15,279 Speaker 1: They don't want to believe me, but learn to get 976 00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:16,879 Speaker 1: your ask in a bit early. You know you don't 977 00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:18,680 Speaker 1: need to be up and I'm sucking the bed at 978 00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:21,880 Speaker 1: nine thirty, you know what I mean? And helps me 979 00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:26,279 Speaker 1: out last thing. Um gang got ahold of you brought 980 00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:29,160 Speaker 1: you in. I have hundreds of coaches listen to this pod. 981 00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:32,160 Speaker 1: Somebody wants to bring you in, wants to connect with 982 00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:35,200 Speaker 1: you direct message the best way? What what's the best 983 00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:38,200 Speaker 1: way to listen to me? That's how they got in 984 00:47:38,239 --> 00:47:40,040 Speaker 1: touch with me. It's simple, like you can get it. 985 00:47:40,760 --> 00:47:43,920 Speaker 1: So like just I'm professional, um, and I'll come to 986 00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:46,640 Speaker 1: your event. I'll tell you like this, I'll come to 987 00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:48,960 Speaker 1: your event. I'll come to university and be professional. But 988 00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:51,799 Speaker 1: there's no big um. I don't have like a huge 989 00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:58,160 Speaker 1: staff where you still call the guy I don't know. 990 00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:01,279 Speaker 1: I don't know, no, no, And I'll tell you it 991 00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:03,520 Speaker 1: is just speaking from experience. And I don't check Twitter 992 00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:06,200 Speaker 1: all the time. So if a person hits me up 993 00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:08,279 Speaker 1: and and it takes me like a few to get back, 994 00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:11,279 Speaker 1: but probably I tell this, my personal email is m 995 00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:14,440 Speaker 1: clarette one three at gmail dot com. That comes directly 996 00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:16,760 Speaker 1: to my part. I probably check emails and text messages 997 00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:20,840 Speaker 1: more than I check Instagram direct message or Twitter direct message. 998 00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:22,200 Speaker 1: I don't like at the end of the night or 999 00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:25,319 Speaker 1: from doing if I'm not doing something, I'll tune into 1000 00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:27,160 Speaker 1: that stuff. But those are probably the easiest ways. Just 1001 00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:30,680 Speaker 1: either through Twitter, Instagram or m clarette one three at 1002 00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:34,239 Speaker 1: gmail dot com. I cannot tell you how thankful I 1003 00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:38,400 Speaker 1: am that we connected. Do this in person, love, do 1004 00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:40,680 Speaker 1: this in person. I'm actually funny you mention a C 1005 00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:43,480 Speaker 1: and get my a C L cut on tomorrow. No 1006 00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:45,920 Speaker 1: you remember you told me no no? So yeah, you 1007 00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:51,360 Speaker 1: was walking into the practice last Yeah, I say, man dedicated. 1008 00:48:53,080 --> 00:48:57,480 Speaker 1: Uh so uh but I will when I get right. 1009 00:48:57,520 --> 00:48:58,960 Speaker 1: I'm gonna get up and I'm gonna get out to 1010 00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:01,400 Speaker 1: Columbus and get my up. I'm gonna work out with you. 1011 00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:13,120 Speaker 1: Uh huh California. Yeah. So yeah, that's that's good. It's 1012 00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:19,239 Speaker 1: bad as as you know, as everybody knows. You appreciate 1013 00:49:19,280 --> 00:49:20,480 Speaker 1: your time so much, and I hope you have a 1014 00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:27,000 Speaker 1: great thing. Got you so much for doing are you too? Wow? 1015 00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:30,480 Speaker 1: That was a lot right uh In in in talking 1016 00:49:30,520 --> 00:49:33,280 Speaker 1: to Mo, I just feel like I'm the worst red 1017 00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:35,279 Speaker 1: person on earth. I'm like going to pick up like 1018 00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:37,560 Speaker 1: five books right now and gonna plow through them. Okay, 1019 00:49:37,560 --> 00:49:41,000 Speaker 1: maybe not, I'll do books on tape. But I cannot 1020 00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:44,160 Speaker 1: thank him enough for his words of inspiration and for 1021 00:49:44,200 --> 00:49:46,359 Speaker 1: all of his thoughts. And I think if you listen 1022 00:49:46,440 --> 00:49:48,920 Speaker 1: to all three parts. Well, you're sitting there going like 1023 00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:51,400 Speaker 1: that guy, that's an incredible story. Things only thirty seven. 1024 00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:54,680 Speaker 1: Now he's got like fifty sixty more years to live 1025 00:49:54,719 --> 00:49:57,160 Speaker 1: on this planet. What do we do next? It's pretty amazing. 1026 00:49:57,840 --> 00:50:00,279 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for listening. Thank you much to 1027 00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:02,799 Speaker 1: Marie's Corrett for sharing the story. Remember you can listen 1028 00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:05,680 Speaker 1: to The Doug gottli Show daily three to six Eastern 1029 00:50:06,040 --> 00:50:08,600 Speaker 1: twelve to the three Pacific, your I Heart Radio app, 1030 00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:11,920 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio dot com, R Fox Sports Radio Affiliate, 1031 00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:15,359 Speaker 1: or Serious Sex M to seventeen or two oh three. 1032 00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:17,840 Speaker 1: I'm Doug Gottlieb. This is Alboll