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Speaker 1: Mother Knows Dad starring Nicole and Jemmy and Maria qk.

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Speaker 2: Hi. Everyone welcome The Mother Knows Death.

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Speaker 1: On today's episode, we're going to talk about a couple

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Speaker 1: of different ways that people's houses are making them sick.

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Speaker 1: An update on the father who faked his own death,

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Speaker 1: parents who drug their kids to go to sleep, and

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Speaker 1: piles of human creamines found in the desert. All that

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Speaker 1: and more on today's episode, Let's talk about how houses

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Speaker 1: are making people sick.

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Speaker 3: All right, So, first up, we have Maddie Pruitt of

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Speaker 3: The Bachelor. So she recently shared that her and her

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Speaker 3: husband bought a home around the time they got married

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Speaker 3: in October twenty twenty two, and immediately faced a bunch

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Speaker 3: of issues. So I want to say welcome to the club, sister,

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Speaker 3: because so did I.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I think that people that buy a house could

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Speaker 1: say this, that they have some kind of issues when

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Speaker 1: they move in, but hers were like a little bit

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Speaker 1: more severe than the average homeowner. She was they felt

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Speaker 1: like they were both getting sick at the house, and

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Speaker 1: they know that it was specific to the house because

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Speaker 1: when they would leave they would feel better.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And they noticed some mold and they said there

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Speaker 3: was a bunch of bugs in the house, and they

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Speaker 3: just assumed that their illness was related to the mold.

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Speaker 3: So they had this guy come in or I guess

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Speaker 3: a plumber come in to investigate it. And he immediately said,

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Speaker 3: you know what, I'm going to test the house for gas.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So he puts on the gas meter and the thing

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Speaker 1: started going nuts. And he was like, oh, you see

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Speaker 1: that fireplace over there, have you used it? And they

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Speaker 1: said yeah, we just use it with this little remote.

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Speaker 1: And then he said, well, do you turn off the

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Speaker 1: gas after you use it? And they say, yeah, we

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Speaker 1: just turn it off with this remote. And he's like, no,

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Speaker 1: you actually have to turn off the gas. And here

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Speaker 1: they were living there for what three months almost yeah,

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Speaker 1: and they had never turned the gas off. The gas

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Speaker 3: Let me tell you how this would happen to me,

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Speaker 3: no problem at all. I wouldn't even think about it.

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Speaker 1: Listen, like this is a serious Like they're lucky they're

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Speaker 1: not dead, because if they like lit a candle or

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Speaker 1: turned on a gas stove like that house would have exploded.

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Speaker 3: Do you think they had electric heat or electric oven then?

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Speaker 2: Because they had to.

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Speaker 1: Of how do you not light a flame in three

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Speaker 1: months living somewhere.

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Speaker 3: I don't know, no, totally. I mean, they're they're absolutely lucky.

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Speaker 3: They're lucky they didn't get more sick. They're lucky the

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Speaker 3: house didn't blow up. This could have been really horrific.

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Speaker 2: So I guess my question is, like, what.

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Speaker 1: Normally, if your gas line is open, it smells like eggs, right, yeah,

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Speaker 1: in your house if you leave your stone on by accident.

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Speaker 1: So normally, like natural gas is mostly made up of methane,

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Speaker 1: which is what she's saying was a methane gas leak,

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Speaker 1: but they put like a tag on it of mere captain,

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Speaker 1: which makes it smell. That's because normally natural gas has

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Speaker 1: no smell. The whole reason that it smells is because

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Speaker 1: they want to alert homeowners two exact situations like this,

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Speaker 1: Where was where were they getting gas from? That wasn't

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Speaker 1: that didn't have more captain in it? I don't understand.

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Speaker 3: I guess Another question I have is was it only

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Speaker 3: open in the three months they owned the house or

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Speaker 3: did the previous homeowner open it, because wouldn't they have

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Speaker 3: known there was that turnkey on the side that operated

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Speaker 1: I know, I know that you're saying that you would

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Speaker 1: do this, but like you have if you're going to

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Speaker 1: little bit, right, Like seriously.

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Speaker 2: Like, yeah, but there's no light in my house.

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Speaker 3: That people acted like I was an absolutely idy it over,

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Speaker 3: but I just really didn't know.

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Speaker 1: Like when you light a grill, for example, I like

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Speaker 1: outside and cook, Right, you turn on, you open the propane,

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Speaker 2: And light it.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, as soon as.

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Speaker 1: I turn off the burners on the grill, I go

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Speaker 1: Like all all that little remote is doing is just

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Speaker 2: That's all that does.

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Speaker 3: Well, I guess what I'm saying is, did they know

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Speaker 1: Well, Like, if you're operating gas products in your house.

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Speaker 2: You should know that, right.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but think about what happened in my house. Remember

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Speaker 3: when we bought the house and they made that whole

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Speaker 3: because it wasn't in use and all this stuff. And

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Speaker 3: then a couple months later, I mean this, this is

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Speaker 2: As me being a huge idiot.

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Speaker 3: So like then winter time comes, I have the heat on,

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Speaker 3: basically right, And I'm like, well, I thought the house

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Speaker 3: the oil tank. Well, I mean, and they made a

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Speaker 3: point to make that big deal of it. Remember when

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Speaker 3: even have been there. Yeah, that's where it was coming

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I get that. I get that. And

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Speaker 2: that's what happens when like you.

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Speaker 1: Young kids buy a house and you don't really you

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Speaker 1: don't really like understand the full depths of like what

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Speaker 1: you know, cause like mommy and Daddy always took care

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Speaker 1: understand that. It's just like there has you have to

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Speaker 1: because dude, this case could have been really really really

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Speaker 1: really bad. No, it's like a imagine seriously, like even outside,

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Speaker 1: not in a confined space. Imagine if you left the

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Speaker 1: propane open on the grill to be leaking out like

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Speaker 1: that for for months. I mean, it would just cause

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Speaker 3: I just don't I still don't understand. But even with

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Speaker 2: Know what was on? There was no sound. It happens.

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Speaker 1: It happens at my house often, like I don't know,

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Speaker 1: I'll bump into one of the burners on the grill

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but you smell it. That's my point, Like how

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Speaker 1: It wasn't it was coming because they said it was

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Speaker 1: methane gas. I don't know where it was coming from,

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Speaker 1: but it wasn't tagged with the Mr. Captain And that's

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Speaker 1: exactly why it didn't smell. It's just but but like

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Speaker 1: to her defense, how do you even know that? I mean,

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Speaker 1: I don't know where they were tapping in, but it's

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Speaker 1: just freaking scary. I'm surprised they probably actually called the

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Speaker 1: of an explosion of that level and they probably had

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess.

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Speaker 3: The point I just don't understand is like, did if

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Speaker 3: use it, why did they then not realize it had to.

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Speaker 1: Be It might have been open from the previous homeowner,

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Speaker 1: or I don't know, or maybe they just thought, like,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not really sure, but super dangerous. So in

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Speaker 3: a similar case, this other chick in her husband bought

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Speaker 3: started having redness around her eyes. So she was taking

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Speaker 3: these selfies and she was like, why do I look

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Speaker 3: this crazy mold infestation in her house.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, It's it's actually crazy how it went down because

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Speaker 1: you could see it is very obvious that something's going

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Speaker 1: on with her face and it almost looks like she

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Speaker 1: pink eye shadow, it doesn't. That's exactly what it looks like.

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Speaker 1: You got some kind of weird infection or something. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so she went on TikTok and all of these people

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Speaker 2: That's what that's from.

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Speaker 1: You're having some kind of reaction to it, which is

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Speaker 1: what keyed her in. And then she started ripping stuff

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Speaker 1: which is really interesting.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd never heard of that before.

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Speaker 1: It's cool, Like we should actually, I feel like we

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Speaker 1: there's all sorts of different like they're trained to find

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Speaker 2: Like, it's kind of really interesting.

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Speaker 1: Well I'm curious about yeah, like they're because Maria was like, oh,

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Speaker 2: Like, oh, I can't wait to meet them.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, maybe we could talk to talk to them,

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Speaker 3: But thank god they discovered this. I mean, it sucks

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Speaker 3: that she had to be sick like that because she

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And I mean a lot of people probably have

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Speaker 1: not really getting that sick. He doesn't work from home,

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Speaker 1: so he leaves for a while and stuff. But like

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Speaker 1: some people are you know, it's just allergies right now,

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Speaker 1: like whatever ragweed craziness is going on right now, Like

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Speaker 1: two weeks ago, I was a mess allergy wise, nobody

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Speaker 1: else in my house is like, it's just it's the

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Speaker 1: same kind of a thing, so everyone doesn't have a

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Speaker 3: And then she was saying she had to get rid

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Speaker 3: of a bunch of her stuff, including electronics, because the

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Speaker 3: spores were so deeply embedded in Yeah, which which sucks.

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Speaker 1: And they're like microscopic you can't see them, and it's

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Speaker 1: just it's scary. The interesting thing about this article is

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Speaker 1: that she's like, oh, I thought I was getting a

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Speaker 1: deal when I got this house for four hundred thousand dollars,

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Speaker 1: and you're like, four hundred thousand dollars for a house

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Speaker 3: New York City, a deal is getting like a one

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Speaker 1: when a child is stole waking up in the middle

440
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Speaker 1: of the night to feed, right.

441
00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:40,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, So the defense is saying, however, he and his

442
00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:44,600
Speaker 3: wife had failed to communicate that they had each administered

443
00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:48,320
Speaker 3: benadryl to athena on separate occasions. So is that trying

444
00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:50,639
Speaker 3: to say that they both gave her benadryl on the

445
00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:52,600
Speaker 3: same day and that's what led to her dad.

446
00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:54,879
Speaker 1: Which is fine, But I'm telling you right now, and

447
00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:57,160
Speaker 1: this goes for tile and all or anything like that.

448
00:21:57,560 --> 00:22:01,200
Speaker 1: When you look like, let's say, for example, well Lilian's

449
00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:03,440
Speaker 1: twelve years old and she's one hundred pounds. I don't

450
00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:05,960
Speaker 1: know what her tile and all dosage is. Right now,

451
00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:07,840
Speaker 1: I could go up and look up a chart online

452
00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:11,119
Speaker 1: and it'll tell me right and might say, okay, she

453
00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:14,400
Speaker 1: could take one five hundred milligram pill. If I gave

454
00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:17,880
Speaker 1: her two, she wouldn't die. They do that on purpose

455
00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:22,439
Speaker 1: because parents are administering a drug, so they give you

456
00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:25,719
Speaker 1: like a low dose. In actuality, the kid could probably

457
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Speaker 1: have like triple or quadruple of that amount, who knows,

458
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Speaker 1: without having any kind of injury. And they've told me

459
00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:34,439
Speaker 1: as much too, in poison Control when I told you

460
00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:38,679
Speaker 1: one time by accident. I don't know how it was

461
00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:42,960
Speaker 1: an accident, but Lucia took two doses of zero tech

462
00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:46,120
Speaker 1: one night because she drank it and then she drank

463
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Speaker 1: the other one and then I told Lilian to go

464
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Speaker 1: take hers and she didn't.

465
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Speaker 2: It was it was like a mess. And I called.

466
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Speaker 1: Poison Control because I was convinced that my kid was

467
00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:56,080
Speaker 1: going to die in her sleep, and they were like, no,

468
00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:57,080
Speaker 1: she needs to have.

469
00:22:57,040 --> 00:22:59,840
Speaker 2: Like a lot to get hurt.

470
00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:03,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like they do that on purpose because accidents happen

471
00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:08,160
Speaker 1: with parents, like somehow, you know, like kid takes two

472
00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:10,640
Speaker 1: by accident or whatever, Like it was my fault because

473
00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:14,960
Speaker 1: I wasn't watching them. So that's what I'm saying right here,

474
00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:18,520
Speaker 1: Like if they did look up online and it said

475
00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:21,320
Speaker 1: half a teaspoon, right and dad gave it to her

476
00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:22,920
Speaker 1: and the mom didn't know, and then the mom gave

477
00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:26,720
Speaker 1: it to her and they didn't know. One teaspoon of

478
00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:30,280
Speaker 1: this medicine isn't going to kill this kid. So that's

479
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Speaker 1: what makes me think it was like.

480
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Speaker 3: Or it wasn't an adult portion, not a children who

481
00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:36,840
Speaker 3: even knows, who.

482
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Speaker 2: Even knows, So.

483
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Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's just people listen, like people are

484
00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:46,639
Speaker 1: doing this. This is this is the thing that people do.

485
00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:48,840
Speaker 1: They give their kids medicine to go to sleep. This

486
00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:52,080
Speaker 1: has been like buzz like forever for my whole life.

487
00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:53,639
Speaker 1: When you were younger, it was just like, oh, just

488
00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:55,800
Speaker 1: give the kid robatasin and put them to sleep, like

489
00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:59,840
Speaker 1: it's it's like it's not a good habit. It's it's

490
00:23:59,880 --> 00:24:03,480
Speaker 1: not and you really should just never I mean, and

491
00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:07,040
Speaker 1: you can't say like, oh, don't have benadol, because there's

492
00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:09,320
Speaker 1: definitely times that kids need it for sure, but you

493
00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:12,800
Speaker 1: just should never you never ever give it to a

494
00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:16,600
Speaker 1: child like that, like because it causes there they could

495
00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:19,600
Speaker 1: have convulsion seizures and it leads to death. I mean,

496
00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:22,840
Speaker 1: like in this case, so I don't know, there's like

497
00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:25,359
Speaker 1: a lot going on here because they also have six kids,

498
00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:28,280
Speaker 1: and it's just like, oh, they we just wanted them

499
00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:30,119
Speaker 1: to sleep and stuff, and it's just like, well, dude,

500
00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:32,120
Speaker 1: like but if you just wanted alone time, you want

501
00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:36,040
Speaker 1: to have six exactly, Like, there's there's more to this

502
00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:39,840
Speaker 1: story here, So I wouldn't. I just don't know how

503
00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:42,719
Speaker 1: you would consider it accidental, Like it's just it's not.

504
00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:44,840
Speaker 1: I told you the ways that it could be, but

505
00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:47,560
Speaker 1: I don't. I just don't think it is all right.

506
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Speaker 3: So about an hour outside of Vegas, this person is

507
00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:52,760
Speaker 3: claiming they were on a dirt road and came across

508
00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:55,120
Speaker 3: seventy piles of human creamaines.

509
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Speaker 1: So it's funny. I sent this article to my friend Paul, who.

510
00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:01,640
Speaker 2: I was just going to say that.

511
00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:04,959
Speaker 1: Yeah, because he lives in Las Vegas. So doctor Paul Kunaris,

512
00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:07,600
Speaker 1: he's actually going to be on our show, like in

513
00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:09,960
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks, right, you were going to have

514
00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:12,480
Speaker 1: him on and he's got a lot to talk about

515
00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:15,360
Speaker 1: and we'll have him expand on this because I don't

516
00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:17,320
Speaker 1: want to give away everything that he just told me

517
00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:21,840
Speaker 1: on the phone, but he's I send it to him

518
00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:23,840
Speaker 1: because he lives in Las Vegas, and he and for

519
00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:26,679
Speaker 1: any of you who follow him on Instagram, his Instagram

520
00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:29,960
Speaker 1: is hex and Colet, and you could I follow him

521
00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:31,439
Speaker 1: too if you want to find him that way. But

522
00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:35,160
Speaker 1: he when he's not traveling the world and seeing other

523
00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:37,720
Speaker 1: cool stuff which he's going to talk about on our episode,

524
00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:40,480
Speaker 1: he's just driving around in the desert in Las Vegas

525
00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:43,680
Speaker 1: and like finding dead animals and just going in these

526
00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:46,639
Speaker 1: old abandoned minds and all this really cool stuff. So

527
00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:48,439
Speaker 1: I send it to him, of course, because I'm like,

528
00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:52,160
Speaker 1: if anyone is driving around in the Las Vegas desert

529
00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:55,960
Speaker 1: and coming across cremative remains, it's Paul, right. And he's

530
00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:58,640
Speaker 1: just like I sent him this article and he's like, yeah,

531
00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:00,320
Speaker 1: I don't know why they think this is a big deal.

532
00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:02,840
Speaker 1: He's like, I just took this picture today and sends

533
00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:04,720
Speaker 1: me like he literally was like, I just took this

534
00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:08,240
Speaker 1: five minutes ago of creamines in the desert. He's like,

535
00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:12,760
Speaker 1: I see them all day every day people. And I'll

536
00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:15,440
Speaker 1: let him expand on why he thinks that they're out there,

537
00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:19,680
Speaker 1: But I guess I guess Paul is saying that this

538
00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:20,800
Speaker 1: is a common occurrence.

539
00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:23,720
Speaker 3: I don't think it's weird to come across creamines in

540
00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:26,440
Speaker 3: this situation like this. I think the amount of them

541
00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:29,000
Speaker 3: in the piles they were in is what is weird.

542
00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:32,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, so they're saying like, there's not really any laws

543
00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:34,240
Speaker 1: for burying someone in the desert or put in their

544
00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:38,600
Speaker 1: remains in the desert, but there are laws about like

545
00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:44,000
Speaker 1: mass cremation. And clearly this is seventy different bodies. And

546
00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:46,639
Speaker 1: what Paul said, and we'll i'll say right now is

547
00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:49,200
Speaker 1: which I agree with him to an extent, is that

548
00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:53,080
Speaker 1: this could be For example, we were just talking about

549
00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:55,480
Speaker 1: this yesterday when we were talking about our family members

550
00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:56,919
Speaker 1: dying in cremation and.

551
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Speaker 2: Stuff like that.

552
00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:02,399
Speaker 1: If you if you if your family member dies and

553
00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:05,280
Speaker 1: you don't claim them at the hospital, they'll send their

554
00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:08,720
Speaker 1: body to the medical examiner's office at least around here anyway,

555
00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:12,879
Speaker 1: or if they die and they're at the medical exam everywhere, yeah,

556
00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:15,760
Speaker 1: like well every place doesn't have a medical examiner's office,

557
00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:21,440
Speaker 1: so it varies from state to state. But if you

558
00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:24,639
Speaker 1: so your family members at the medical examiner's office and

559
00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:26,399
Speaker 1: they try to contact you and they find you and

560
00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:28,359
Speaker 1: they're just like you need to come pick this person up.

561
00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:30,800
Speaker 1: Like what if you have no money, Like you might

562
00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:33,040
Speaker 1: not have any money to do a funeral or anything,

563
00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:35,400
Speaker 1: and a lot of times people just like leave their

564
00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:39,880
Speaker 1: family members unclaimed, and eventually the Medical Examiner's office will

565
00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:42,919
Speaker 1: like take all these people because they can't have people

566
00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:45,000
Speaker 1: living there for five or ten years. They take them

567
00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:51,320
Speaker 1: and get them cremated. And like I believe in Philadelphia,

568
00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:53,879
Speaker 1: at least when I was at the Medical Examiner's office,

569
00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:57,840
Speaker 1: that these creamanes get put because I know that happened

570
00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:00,320
Speaker 1: with the unclaimed fetuses that we would get at the

571
00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:03,520
Speaker 1: hospital too, and like little babies and things like that.

572
00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:05,239
Speaker 1: We had like a lot, and then they would come

573
00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:07,879
Speaker 1: pick them up every couple of months, do like a

574
00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:11,800
Speaker 1: mass cremation and bury them in a cemetery as and

575
00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:16,000
Speaker 1: like this way, if the family ever wanted to go visit,

576
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:18,080
Speaker 1: they at least had a place to go visit the

577
00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:22,320
Speaker 1: remains of their loved one they couldn't afford. But I

578
00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:24,959
Speaker 1: don't know, it might be like that's not happening in

579
00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:27,920
Speaker 1: this case, and that's where all these bodies are coming from.

580
00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:28,960
Speaker 2: To that point.

581
00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:32,400
Speaker 3: In Nevada, you're allowed to scatter ashes, but they say

582
00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:36,080
Speaker 3: commercial distribution is not allowed, which I would say falls

583
00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:39,320
Speaker 3: under that blanket of like a medical examiner putting all

584
00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:41,840
Speaker 3: the unclaimed ashes in one bulk looking well.

585
00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:44,560
Speaker 1: But that's not really commercial. That's like state, That's what

586
00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:45,000
Speaker 1: I'm thinking.

587
00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:47,880
Speaker 3: It's no, I think that falls under that bracket of

588
00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:51,080
Speaker 3: many people, because who else is under the under the

589
00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:51,600
Speaker 3: guise of.

590
00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:55,480
Speaker 1: Commercial crematory or anybody that has unclaim remains.

591
00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:56,440
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't know.

592
00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:59,560
Speaker 3: That's just an unusual spot, like you're saying, they put

593
00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:01,360
Speaker 3: them in the like nice spot. And if you're like

594
00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:03,080
Speaker 3: this is like in the middle of a desert right

595
00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:05,880
Speaker 3: outstead of a small community, what's bizarre is that.

596
00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:11,240
Speaker 1: Like there's like seventy individual piles, like someone took the

597
00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:14,200
Speaker 1: time to like pour out each individual, like they didn't

598
00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:16,840
Speaker 1: just mix them all together and be like here, like well, they.

599
00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:19,000
Speaker 3: Said they also found a bunch of fragments of zip

600
00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:21,440
Speaker 3: ties and a broken urn at the scene. I don't

601
00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:23,840
Speaker 3: know what that's about, or if they're even connected.

602
00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:26,560
Speaker 2: It just seems like a very zip types sound very weird.

603
00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:29,080
Speaker 2: Yeah right, it's very Yeah.

604
00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:32,000
Speaker 1: Well, we'll like listen, Paul's got we'll talk to him

605
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:33,760
Speaker 1: in a couple of weeks about this, because he's got

606
00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:35,880
Speaker 1: like he knows everything when it comes to this kind

607
00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:38,760
Speaker 1: of stuff. So it'll be a really interesting episode for sure.

608
00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:41,920
Speaker 1: Oh if any of you have been following him over

609
00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:45,760
Speaker 1: in Indonesia about what he's looking at right now, it's outrageous.

610
00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:48,520
Speaker 1: And he was texting me and telling me all these

611
00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:52,240
Speaker 1: stories and I'm like, listen, like someone else needs to

612
00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:53,960
Speaker 1: hear this besides me, because.

613
00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:57,360
Speaker 2: This is so interesting. So we'll talk to him about that.

614
00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:00,200
Speaker 3: It is interesting. And if you want to know more

615
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:03,720
Speaker 3: about what happens with unclaimed bodies, we actually did a

616
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:06,240
Speaker 3: great external exam. But believe it was in March of

617
00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:09,280
Speaker 3: twenty twenty four. These two people wrote this awesome book

618
00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:11,480
Speaker 3: called The Unclaimed. You could just search that and Mother

619
00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:13,880
Speaker 3: Knows Death and it will come up. And they had

620
00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:17,239
Speaker 3: written this book and talked about exactly what happens, at

621
00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:20,480
Speaker 3: least in Los Angeles with unclaimed bodies, and they ended

622
00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:23,720
Speaker 3: up finding four people that were unclaimed in backtrack and

623
00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:26,520
Speaker 3: learned what led to them, like what happened in their

624
00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:29,160
Speaker 3: life that led to that point. And honestly, it's really

625
00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:31,840
Speaker 3: upsetting to read that, you know, it used.

626
00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:32,440
Speaker 2: To pick up their life.

627
00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:34,080
Speaker 1: And I always used to think about that because we

628
00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:36,640
Speaker 1: had circumstances at the hospital, like I used to release

629
00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:39,040
Speaker 1: all the bodies to the funeral homes and they're you know,

630
00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:41,120
Speaker 1: if someone was there, our rule was if they were

631
00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:42,840
Speaker 1: there for more than five days, we would call the

632
00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:46,040
Speaker 1: medical examiner and say, like, you have to come pick

633
00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:49,160
Speaker 1: them up because we can't We certainly can't have bodies

634
00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:53,040
Speaker 1: decomposing in a hospital more refrigerator, right, No, And also

635
00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:55,640
Speaker 1: we didn't have the space to have like one of

636
00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:58,880
Speaker 1: the spots taken up by somebody. And you understand, like

637
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:02,760
Speaker 1: actually being in a city like Philadelphia, you would say, okay,

638
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:05,360
Speaker 1: people are from out of town, like it takes a

639
00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:07,840
Speaker 1: couple of days to get the funeral situated. But like

640
00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:11,720
Speaker 1: in five days, if you don't have somebody picking up

641
00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:13,440
Speaker 1: the body, like you don't have to have the funeral,

642
00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:15,080
Speaker 1: but it could stay at the funeral home because they

643
00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:18,160
Speaker 1: can embom the person and keep them there, like, it's

644
00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:21,600
Speaker 1: not our problem. And if if you can't get the body,

645
00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:24,960
Speaker 1: like we would do certain circumstances, if someone like for example,

646
00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:27,360
Speaker 1: said oh, I'm trying to get up the money and

647
00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:29,480
Speaker 1: I need another two days, then we'd be like, Okay,

648
00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:32,920
Speaker 1: we weren't. We were like inhumane, but like you know,

649
00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:35,480
Speaker 1: we we would just be send it to the Medical

650
00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:38,560
Speaker 1: Examiner's office. And you would just be like sometimes you

651
00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:41,000
Speaker 1: couldn't even find a family member to call, and you're like,

652
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:44,640
Speaker 1: how does this person not have anybody, well, anybody to

653
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:45,520
Speaker 1: come pick them up.

654
00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:47,600
Speaker 2: It's just sad, it really is.

655
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:50,959
Speaker 3: All right, guys, we're looking forward to seeing some people

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Speaker 3: it's at five point fifteen, right, Yeah, but we can't

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's going to be really cool. And then

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Speaker 1: of course we're doing a live taping at crime Con,

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Speaker 1: so we will let you guys listen to that episode

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Speaker 1: and how incredibly.

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Speaker 2: Awkward it might be for us. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Last year was the first time that we did it,

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Speaker 1: and I think this time will be a little bit

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Speaker 1: it's like we're looking at each other and sitting in

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Speaker 1: front of an audience. It's just like a little bit

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Speaker 1: of a different way to do our show. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: looking forward to it. We have some good stories saved

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Speaker 3: It's definitely a big difference in what we're doing now

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Speaker 3: versus thet All right, we'll share it with you guys,

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Speaker 3: though you could determine for yourself if you think it's

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Speaker 3: way more awkward than our normal shit.

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Speaker 2: Maybe maybe not.

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Speaker 3: All right, Well, we're very excited to see everybody there.

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