WEBVTT - What We Learned From Ben Shapiro's Racist Novel 0:00:02.600 --> 0:00:07.480 What doing something he didn't think he would do. My me. 0:00:10.520 --> 0:00:14.319 Robert Evans hosted Behind the Bastards, and I'm here looking 0:00:14.320 --> 0:00:19.480 at Sophie's horrified face. You know, Sophie, my grandpa had 0:00:19.520 --> 0:00:23.599 a saying my co host today are Katie Stole and 0:00:23.680 --> 0:00:27.040 Cody Johnson. How are you all doing? Grandpa? It was weird. 0:00:27.120 --> 0:00:29.160 We all thought he was going senile when he would 0:00:29.200 --> 0:00:32.320 just shout that out. But twenty years ago, but then 0:00:32.360 --> 0:00:36.199 I met you Bothie, Sorry, Grandpa Evans? How are you 0:00:36.200 --> 0:00:41.080 guys doing today? All right? A plus good? Right on time? Yeah, 0:00:41.360 --> 0:00:44.680 Cody is only thirty seven minutes late to record, which 0:00:44.840 --> 0:00:47.920 I have to say. Normally there is a calendar invite 0:00:47.920 --> 0:00:49.599 that tells me what time we are recording, and there 0:00:49.680 --> 0:00:51.199 was not this time, and so I did not know 0:00:51.280 --> 0:00:53.520 there was another calendar invite that said one thirty, which 0:00:53.520 --> 0:00:56.160 is what I was expecting. Cody is ready for coming, 0:00:56.920 --> 0:01:00.120 so quick quick check, Katie? Were you on time? I 0:01:00.160 --> 0:01:02.880 was on time? Hey, Robert, quick check? Were you on time? Maybe? 0:01:03.000 --> 0:01:05.399 Here's the thing? Were I checked? Chris? Were you on time? 0:01:08.080 --> 0:01:10.720 I do normally give Cody a little reminder, and that 0:01:10.840 --> 0:01:16.399 is my fault because you are no no, no, absolutely not, 0:01:16.720 --> 0:01:21.080 absolutely no, Sophie. There's nothing woker than letting a woman 0:01:21.120 --> 0:01:25.080 take the blame for a man's I want all of 0:01:25.120 --> 0:01:28.680 our listeners to know. I did not mean that. Seriously. 0:01:29.640 --> 0:01:34.640 It was Katie and Sophie's fault. They collaborated like Barack 0:01:34.760 --> 0:01:38.280 Obama and Pete Bota. Katie called Sophie and was like, 0:01:38.520 --> 0:01:41.360 should I remind Cody? And Sophie was like no, Should 0:01:41.400 --> 0:01:43.840 I send an email invite like I normally do? And 0:01:43.920 --> 0:01:47.319 Katie's like no, And then they laughed and laughed and laughed. 0:01:47.720 --> 0:01:49.960 I was on the email thread with them. I thought 0:01:50.000 --> 0:01:53.200 it was messed up. It's or or perhaps you fucked up. 0:01:53.240 --> 0:01:56.280 Continue Robert with your show. So, guys, you remember how 0:01:56.360 --> 0:01:58.080 last year we had a couple of fun moments where 0:01:58.080 --> 0:02:01.920 we got together as friends as as as colleagues, as comrades, 0:02:02.000 --> 0:02:06.160 and we randomly page through terrible books. How could I forget? 0:02:06.280 --> 0:02:09.000 We learned about what an Edgregor is, which is the 0:02:09.040 --> 0:02:11.480 collective satan that the Jewish people have created with their 0:02:11.480 --> 0:02:13.959 own their own seared into my memory. That was a 0:02:13.960 --> 0:02:17.160 good one. Yeah. I remember the science book science book 0:02:17.200 --> 0:02:19.120 we read You Were the Q and on book we 0:02:19.200 --> 0:02:23.480 read We learned a lot of good information science Part Science, 0:02:23.480 --> 0:02:25.359 Part two. Today I got a little bit of a 0:02:25.360 --> 0:02:28.920 different book because sometimes reading through random books at random 0:02:28.960 --> 0:02:31.000 points in time means I don't have to prepare as much, 0:02:31.080 --> 0:02:32.680 which can help us to get a head over here. 0:02:32.680 --> 0:02:34.840 And I love that for you and for us for 0:02:34.880 --> 0:02:37.120 our show. And today we're going to read a book 0:02:37.280 --> 0:02:41.960 called True Allegiance. Now. This has been described by the 0:02:41.960 --> 0:02:45.440 New York Times bestselling author Brad Floor as a blockbuster 0:02:45.560 --> 0:02:48.519 debut thriller ripped straight from the headlines, and its author 0:02:49.160 --> 0:02:54.320 is a fellaw. Y'all might know old Binny Shaps my favorite. 0:02:54.440 --> 0:02:57.520 And Shapiro. Yeah, we are. We are doing the Ben 0:02:57.600 --> 0:03:03.040 Shapiro book today. This is fun because I've novelist Ben Shapira. 0:03:03.080 --> 0:03:06.200 I've been muting him more avoiding him on Twitter. So 0:03:06.240 --> 0:03:09.120 it's been a minute. You've been taking care of your 0:03:09.120 --> 0:03:12.440 mental health, and I'm ready to tarnish it right now. 0:03:12.560 --> 0:03:18.600 Just light it on fire. There's only so much room 0:03:18.639 --> 0:03:20.440 we have on our day to day. That can't have 0:03:20.480 --> 0:03:25.600 been easy for you. It wasn't. Everything he says is wrong. Now, 0:03:25.840 --> 0:03:27.880 I wanted to talk a little bit before this about 0:03:27.880 --> 0:03:29.120 what we do when we have a book by a 0:03:29.200 --> 0:03:31.160 terrible person that I don't want to support financially, but 0:03:31.200 --> 0:03:33.200 I want to read because there's a trick and I 0:03:33.240 --> 0:03:36.680 wasn't telling people the trick before, but now, like, fuck it, 0:03:36.440 --> 0:03:39.680 what's what's the worst that could happen? The key is, 0:03:40.200 --> 0:03:42.600 The key is as far as I know, this isn't illegal. 0:03:43.040 --> 0:03:46.840 The key is purchase the book on Kindle, right, you 0:03:46.880 --> 0:03:49.920 download it to your device, you disconnect your device from 0:03:49.920 --> 0:03:54.320 the Internet, you apply for a refund from Kindle, and 0:03:54.360 --> 0:03:56.120 then you finished doing what you're going to do in 0:03:56.160 --> 0:03:58.560 the book before you reconnected to the Internet and removes it. 0:03:59.120 --> 0:04:02.080 Great is legal to me? Actually it does sound very leegal, 0:04:02.760 --> 0:04:05.360 so a little bit, uh, a little bit of advice 0:04:05.440 --> 0:04:07.880 now true. Allegiance was a book published in two thousand 0:04:07.880 --> 0:04:10.840 and sixteen by Postial Press. Uh and of course author 0:04:10.920 --> 0:04:12.680 Ben Shapiro and I want to read you all the 0:04:13.000 --> 0:04:14.880 Amazon description so we so you can know what we're 0:04:14.880 --> 0:04:18.080 going for here. New York Times best selling author Ben 0:04:18.080 --> 0:04:20.960 Shapiro's new novel asks how close are we to our 0:04:20.960 --> 0:04:23.400 country's collapse? And we'll be able to stop it? Once 0:04:23.440 --> 0:04:27.560 it begins? America is coming apart in a legal immigration crisis, 0:04:27.600 --> 0:04:30.320 has broken out along America's southern border. There are race 0:04:30.440 --> 0:04:33.680 rights in Detroit, a Finmary, a fiery female rancher turned 0:04:33.760 --> 0:04:37.160 militia leaders, avowed revenge on the president for his arrogant policies, 0:04:37.440 --> 0:04:40.000 and the world's most notorious terrorist is planning a massive 0:04:40.000 --> 0:04:43.720 attack that could destroy the United States as we know it. Meanwhile, 0:04:43.920 --> 0:04:46.520 the President is too consumed by legacies seeking to see 0:04:46.560 --> 0:04:50.480 our country's deep peril. Bret Hawthorne as the youngest general 0:04:50.480 --> 0:04:53.280 in the United States Army and he's stuck alone behind 0:04:53.320 --> 0:04:56.320 the enemy lines in Afghanistan. He's the last lost soldier 0:04:56.320 --> 0:04:58.280 of a failed war, fighting to stay alive and make 0:04:58.320 --> 0:05:00.160 it back home, but will be able to to have 0:05:00.240 --> 0:05:03.240 the collapse of America in time. It sounds like a 0:05:03.279 --> 0:05:06.000 real thriller. I have a question. Does there an audio 0:05:06.080 --> 0:05:10.680 book version of this? Oh my god, Yeah, they're yeah, 0:05:10.760 --> 0:05:13.560 it's free with your audible trial. Does he read the audible? 0:05:13.560 --> 0:05:17.640 I have to know, because it just sounds way better 0:05:18.240 --> 0:05:20.839 than in your voice than it does in his voice, 0:05:20.839 --> 0:05:23.360 and I feel like it's it's yeah. So could you 0:05:23.400 --> 0:05:31.480 look it up? Because I'm disconnected from the internet, So 0:05:31.920 --> 0:05:34.240 I bet there's a foreword it. Oh my god, Oh 0:05:34.279 --> 0:05:38.200 my god, you guys, it's not even the foreword. You 0:05:38.200 --> 0:05:40.960 know how books will have like a praise for this 0:05:41.000 --> 0:05:43.599 book page where it has the first quote on the 0:05:43.600 --> 0:05:47.080 praise for True Allegiance page. Meet our new Iron, Rand 0:05:47.880 --> 0:05:54.480 dot Com, Salon dot com, Salon, Oh my god. Oh 0:05:54.680 --> 0:05:58.719 it's so good. There's a culture quote. Provocative, intense, and 0:05:58.720 --> 0:06:01.719 about five minutes from becoming reality. Ben Shapiro's True Allegiance 0:06:01.760 --> 0:06:04.720 is a rivening thriller about what happens when America folds. 0:06:05.279 --> 0:06:08.599 It just sounds rooted in fact, not feeling. He's got 0:06:08.640 --> 0:06:13.159 an Allan West quote in there. That's good. That's really good, boy. 0:06:13.640 --> 0:06:16.320 And then some people that I don't recognize. Okay, so cool, 0:06:16.400 --> 0:06:18.360 we've got we're on a good It sounds like it's 0:06:18.360 --> 0:06:20.120 a good book. It sounds like it's a good book 0:06:20.240 --> 0:06:24.120 by good people. I'm very excited for this. Yeah, okay, 0:06:24.320 --> 0:06:29.800 so it does he read it, Sophie, Oh my good gracious, 0:06:29.640 --> 0:06:35.880 that's the right side of history. That's we're doing. True Allegiance. Oh, 0:06:35.920 --> 0:06:37.560 I don't think he does. I don't think. I don't 0:06:37.600 --> 0:06:43.160 think he does. Narrated by somebody who is not Ben. 0:06:44.360 --> 0:06:47.480 That's a good call. Because you might not believe what 0:06:47.520 --> 0:06:54.200 you learn about Brigadier General Brett how and the prisident. 0:06:54.320 --> 0:06:57.159 He only cares about Obama, I mean not Obama, and 0:06:57.520 --> 0:07:00.880 he's a he's a he's a different president. Right, all right, 0:07:00.920 --> 0:07:03.160 I'm gonna I'm gonna start with I think chapter one 0:07:03.279 --> 0:07:05.360 looks like it's opening with, like, you know, we were 0:07:05.360 --> 0:07:08.480 starting with like a terrorist attack going on in New 0:07:08.520 --> 0:07:10.840 York City. Wait wait, wait what year was this? Did 0:07:10.840 --> 0:07:14.040 you say that two thousand sixteen this came out? Yeah, 0:07:14.080 --> 0:07:16.840 I would have had to. Yeah. Great, so the president 0:07:16.920 --> 0:07:21.840 obsessive legacy would be Obama, not the president. Yeah yeah, 0:07:22.080 --> 0:07:26.120 it is also obsessed with his legacy in a different way, 0:07:26.320 --> 0:07:30.120 in a different way. All right, Oh no, it doesn't 0:07:30.160 --> 0:07:33.800 start Okay, so the first episode doesn't start with a 0:07:34.160 --> 0:07:36.480 new terror. It starts with like nine eleven. Uh. And 0:07:36.600 --> 0:07:38.080 I think the character who's going to grow up to 0:07:38.120 --> 0:07:41.240 be our our our ranch militia leader in New York 0:07:41.240 --> 0:07:43.440 at nine eleven, seeing the towers at the building. So 0:07:43.480 --> 0:07:45.320 that that seems like what we're going on with this 0:07:45.320 --> 0:07:48.480 this prologue here. So that's good. We're kicking it off 0:07:48.480 --> 0:07:50.560 with the nine and eleven and then we move right 0:07:50.560 --> 0:07:55.600 in with chapter one to Brett Hawthorne in Afghanistan, Brigadier 0:07:55.640 --> 0:07:58.600 General Bret Hawthorne looked at his M nine magazine and 0:07:58.640 --> 0:08:01.480 cursed to himself empty. He was set up against a 0:08:01.560 --> 0:08:03.560 mud brick hovel in the city's poor part of town. 0:08:03.760 --> 0:08:06.120 Even in Kabul there was a large income gap, and 0:08:06.160 --> 0:08:08.840 felt the sweat trickle down cold between his shoulder blades. 0:08:09.040 --> 0:08:11.480 He hadn't been alone for years. General has always had 0:08:11.480 --> 0:08:14.680 a personal security detail, but things had gone hellishly wrong. 0:08:15.160 --> 0:08:17.720 Hawthorne was a bear of a man, six three in 0:08:17.760 --> 0:08:23.000 his bare feet. And let's talk about this a minute. 0:08:24.640 --> 0:08:27.000 I've gotten criticized in the past for making fun of 0:08:27.040 --> 0:08:30.520 Ben Shapiro's shortness. And it's true that you shouldn't make 0:08:30.560 --> 0:08:32.880 fun of people for being short. Some people in this 0:08:33.000 --> 0:08:36.920 very room short, most of us, most of us, most 0:08:36.960 --> 0:08:39.840 of us except for you and myself. Yeah, I'm not tall. 0:08:40.240 --> 0:08:44.200 I'm There are more there taller people than me in 0:08:44.200 --> 0:08:47.199 this room. There are there are, And it's fine, there's 0:08:47.240 --> 0:08:54.720 nothing nothing, It says nothing about the personage. But also, well, 0:08:54.840 --> 0:08:57.040 so here here's the other thing. For many, many, many 0:08:57.160 --> 0:09:02.600 many years, Ben Shapiro claimed that he was my actual 0:09:02.679 --> 0:09:05.840 height five eight I did, I was unaware of He 0:09:06.000 --> 0:09:11.200 is not we as we all know. Um. So it's 0:09:11.200 --> 0:09:13.640 just one of those things where, Okay, you're gonna lie 0:09:13.640 --> 0:09:20.280 about this a lot something I don't know. I don't 0:09:20.280 --> 0:09:22.160 know I'm making that up, but I've heard that. But 0:09:22.240 --> 0:09:25.160 he's been lying about his height for years. It is funny, 0:09:25.480 --> 0:09:28.160 and it's funny that his clear self insert character Bret 0:09:28.160 --> 0:09:30.880 Hawthorne is a bear of a man, six three in 0:09:31.000 --> 0:09:36.360 his bare feet and two pounds in his underwear. So, yeah, 0:09:36.640 --> 0:09:38.600 what I'm struck by this is like, there's all these 0:09:38.640 --> 0:09:48.800 stories Ben Shapiro, Sorry, no, no, it's fine. Um uh. 0:09:49.120 --> 0:09:53.880 Ben Shapiro wanted to be a Hollywood screen run and 0:09:53.920 --> 0:09:57.479 he's film to add of that, There's just these few sentences. 0:09:57.520 --> 0:09:59.560 I just can feel him being like this would make 0:09:59.559 --> 0:10:02.440 a great movie, you know, like he's writing it, Like 0:10:03.679 --> 0:10:05.800 those guys of Hollywood won't make it. I'll write this, 0:10:05.960 --> 0:10:09.199 you know. Yeah. Yeah, I'm also wondering as a gun guy. 0:10:09.200 --> 0:10:12.320 So the M nine is the nine millimeter Bretta side 0:10:12.360 --> 0:10:16.200 arm that was up until recently, the standard side arm 0:10:16.200 --> 0:10:18.160 of the military. It says he looks at his M 0:10:18.240 --> 0:10:21.400 nine magazine. Now there's a couple of things that that 0:10:21.440 --> 0:10:24.120 makes me think. So, if you're actually shooting a handgun 0:10:24.320 --> 0:10:27.320 like that and it's empty, the slide locks back, and 0:10:27.360 --> 0:10:29.720 you can immediately tell that it's empty because the slide 0:10:29.760 --> 0:10:33.800 is locked back. Uh. At no point, if you're in 0:10:33.840 --> 0:10:36.480 a firefight, would you reject the magazine and look at 0:10:36.520 --> 0:10:40.480 the magazine to determine whether or not your weapon was empty? Um? 0:10:40.520 --> 0:10:45.240 And I'm not I'm not sure how Brett Hawthorne combat general. 0:10:47.160 --> 0:10:49.160 That doesn't make any sense as an opening, Like it 0:10:49.280 --> 0:10:50.920 makes sense if he was like looked like the slide 0:10:50.960 --> 0:10:53.520 locked back of Brett Hawthorne's M nine magazine and he 0:10:53.600 --> 0:10:56.480 cursed to himself empty like that makes gun sense. I 0:10:56.480 --> 0:10:59.400 can explain this to you. Ben isn't know he's talking. 0:11:00.800 --> 0:11:06.280 Thank you for that, Katie. Um, I have to back 0:11:06.360 --> 0:11:12.520 up real quick. We're doing really well. I need you, 0:11:12.679 --> 0:11:16.320 Robert real quick to read the blurb at the beginning 0:11:16.360 --> 0:11:20.640 one more time with Iron Rand. Oh about Iron Rand. Okay, 0:11:20.760 --> 0:11:23.240 that's the whole thing. We're scrolling back. We're scrolling back 0:11:23.480 --> 0:11:27.760 true allegiance, Meet our new Iron Randy by Salon dot Com. Okay, 0:11:27.800 --> 0:11:32.160 that's it. So here's the thing, folks. Uh, if you 0:11:32.200 --> 0:11:34.920 were to go to Salon dot com Salon dot com 0:11:35.000 --> 0:11:37.079 and you were to look for that phrase, you'd find 0:11:37.080 --> 0:11:41.680 an article. That article is called meet our New Iron 0:11:41.760 --> 0:11:46.760 Rand colon. Ben Shapiro's ham fisted propaganda fiction is even 0:11:46.840 --> 0:11:51.840 worse than you guessed. Subheader the wingnut pundit resents the 0:11:51.880 --> 0:11:55.240 liberal tone of TV but turns out cartoonish, right lenning 0:11:55.320 --> 0:12:00.240 prose unreal? Thank you for looking up? That is that 0:12:00.320 --> 0:12:06.400 lead of somebody's can you can do whatever you want? 0:12:06.440 --> 0:12:08.880 It's amazing. It's the funniest thing I think Ben has 0:12:08.920 --> 0:12:13.000 ever done. It's the it's it's everything about him. We 0:12:13.040 --> 0:12:18.120 need regulation of book blur. Taking that blurb like no 0:12:18.160 --> 0:12:19.880 one would want to be like, oh I'm the new 0:12:19.920 --> 0:12:23.040 Iron Rand, Like already it's like, that's not like praise 0:12:23.160 --> 0:12:25.920 that you would want to promote. But the fact that 0:12:25.960 --> 0:12:28.760 it's just pulled from this really really mean headline is 0:12:28.840 --> 0:12:30.920 so good, you guys, there's so much more to say 0:12:30.920 --> 0:12:35.520 about combat. General Bret Hawthorne. Okay, okay, oh my god, okay, 0:12:35.600 --> 0:12:38.960 So so Bret Hawthorne, who is pounds in his underwear, 0:12:39.160 --> 0:12:41.480 has a graying blonde crew cut and a face carved 0:12:41.520 --> 0:12:44.400 of granite Um God, not not a face that looks 0:12:44.400 --> 0:12:48.199 carved of granite, but a face carved band whatever, horrifying 0:12:48.520 --> 0:12:51.600 reality for him. I know what a nightmare for Brett Hawthorn. 0:12:51.640 --> 0:12:53.080 I mean, I'm kind of into this. It's like a 0:12:53.080 --> 0:12:56.160 fantasy thing now, toxic masculinity. He can never change his face. 0:12:57.280 --> 0:13:00.000 Feel like he's touching himself when he writes about Bret Hawthorne, 0:13:00.040 --> 0:13:02.839 combat general and not at all a Ben Shapiro stand in. 0:13:03.240 --> 0:13:06.000 So it's so Brett is looking up at the blown 0:13:06.080 --> 0:13:08.680 up buildings of Kabul and he he could see the 0:13:08.760 --> 0:13:12.160 Kabul Serena Hotel burning. The new coalition government had bragged 0:13:12.200 --> 0:13:14.520 about the hotel is the standard bear for the modernization 0:13:14.559 --> 0:13:18.440 of the city with its historically imitative Islamic architecture, satellite 0:13:18.480 --> 0:13:20.920 TV and wireless internet. Now the flames looked at the 0:13:20.920 --> 0:13:23.640 windows as ashes floated down on the city, and I 0:13:23.640 --> 0:13:26.800 feel like he brings up that it's Islamic architecture for 0:13:26.880 --> 0:13:28.599 a reason to make it seem like even more of 0:13:28.640 --> 0:13:32.200 a bad idea. No, I'm just being specific in my pros, 0:13:32.600 --> 0:13:36.360 like I'm sure that if knows what Islamic architecture looks 0:13:36.400 --> 0:13:38.800 like for one thing. Um, No, I'm sure if you 0:13:38.840 --> 0:13:43.080 were to control f that file and just type Islamic, 0:13:43.600 --> 0:13:47.080 it would come up as like a descriptor for so 0:13:47.120 --> 0:13:49.560 many things they do not need that word. I bet 0:13:49.559 --> 0:13:51.720 you're right, we're indexing right now. I'm gonna move right 0:13:51.760 --> 0:13:53.760 along to uh. So it goes on to him talking 0:13:53.760 --> 0:13:56.640 about how a few short this is pretty great too. Actually, 0:13:57.240 --> 0:13:59.760 a few short years ago, Afghanistan had seemed to be 0:13:59.800 --> 0:14:02.560 on the up swig. The talent had been on the run, 0:14:02.640 --> 0:14:05.920 hiding in the mountains of the Tora Bora region sally Forth. 0:14:05.960 --> 0:14:08.320 Every so often it hit a supply chain. The coalition 0:14:08.320 --> 0:14:10.760 forces had been sustimate. So a few years ago everything 0:14:10.800 --> 0:14:15.480 they'd been great in Afghanistan. The arrogant president and Hathor 0:14:15.600 --> 0:14:17.920 knew all this because he had designed the strategy, and 0:14:18.000 --> 0:14:21.440 now the strategy had gone to ship. Well, Bret Hawthorne 0:14:21.440 --> 0:14:23.560 thought to himself, at least I can tell those stupid 0:14:23.600 --> 0:14:30.160 bastards I told you so. It is delightful to see 0:14:30.600 --> 0:14:36.320 who thinks that he is. Oh boy, you guys in 0:14:36.520 --> 0:14:41.000 Islamic is fewer times than I thought. But I'm already 0:14:41.040 --> 0:14:43.240 seeing some religion of peace talk that I'm sure is 0:14:43.240 --> 0:14:47.240 going to be fun. Oh boy, the all the words 0:14:47.280 --> 0:14:49.520 that are available in in like the little search, because 0:14:49.520 --> 0:14:51.520 you only get the few words around it that late 0:14:51.560 --> 0:14:56.200 stage Islam is peace, pussy shit. That's that's that's a 0:14:56.240 --> 0:14:58.320 sentence for you. I don't know the context yet, but 0:14:58.400 --> 0:15:00.840 I'm sure we'll learn. I love the idea that has 0:15:00.880 --> 0:15:02.840 been is writing this. He's like his des typing and 0:15:02.880 --> 0:15:04.560 he has a cigar in his mouth that he will 0:15:04.600 --> 0:15:07.720 never light. No, he's just because it hurts his lungs. Yes, exactly. Yeah, 0:15:07.720 --> 0:15:10.560 he hates the taste and hates what it does to him. 0:15:10.880 --> 0:15:14.800 He's got to have the cigar and like a glass 0:15:14.800 --> 0:15:17.720 of scotch that is mostly ice that he doesn't sit 0:15:17.840 --> 0:15:22.760 from cost him three dollars, you've got to savor it. 0:15:24.720 --> 0:15:27.920 So um, we're gonna talk about Bret Hawthorne's background now 0:15:28.040 --> 0:15:30.040 because we start like a great writer. He starts in 0:15:30.040 --> 0:15:34.800 the action se right, pinned down under fired, Islamic hotel 0:15:34.960 --> 0:15:38.200 is burning. He grips your right away. You're like exciting, like, 0:15:38.200 --> 0:15:41.160 oh yeah, it's like die hard but iron Rand, Yeah, dying, 0:15:41.600 --> 0:15:44.520 dying Rand. And now now we go back to let's 0:15:44.560 --> 0:15:49.040 learn about Bret hawthorn'sground. Bret Hawthorne was the youngest general 0:15:49.120 --> 0:15:51.600 in the American military. He'd grown up lower middle class 0:15:51.600 --> 0:15:55.280 in Chicago. His mother a teacher, his father a salesman company. 0:15:55.600 --> 0:15:57.880 I'm sorry, at some point you got his search how 0:15:57.880 --> 0:16:00.320 many times he mentioned Chicago? Oh? Boy? Is he Is 0:16:00.400 --> 0:16:01.840 that a thing for him? Um? It's a thing for 0:16:01.920 --> 0:16:03.760 him because of Obama's thing for him, because of guns. 0:16:03.880 --> 0:16:08.840 Is a thing for him, because of black people in general. Um. Boys. 0:16:08.880 --> 0:16:11.360 So half of the time Chicago's mentioned in this book, 0:16:11.400 --> 0:16:14.440 it's the South side of Chicago, which is the baddest 0:16:14.480 --> 0:16:16.880 part of town. And if you go there, you better 0:16:16.920 --> 0:16:21.600 be aware for a man namely Roy Brown, bad, bad, 0:16:22.360 --> 0:16:26.040 bad man in the hole damn town, madder than a 0:16:26.200 --> 0:16:30.440 junkyard dog. That's right, Katie, That's absolutely correct. What that's 0:16:30.480 --> 0:16:35.440 a great So he'd been a shy, gentle quiet kid, 0:16:35.560 --> 0:16:38.120 built like a read but he learned one skill pretty 0:16:38.200 --> 0:16:40.840 quickly at Thomas Edison High how to talk his way 0:16:40.920 --> 0:16:45.240 from a bad out of a bad situ. O good lord. Okay. 0:16:45.360 --> 0:16:48.840 So he learned this from Derek Um because Brett, Yeah, 0:16:49.120 --> 0:16:52.240 I think Derek's gonna be a black inner city kid 0:16:52.360 --> 0:16:55.320 who teaches him how to be cool. That's my guess. 0:16:57.040 --> 0:16:59.680 So Brett sat by himself a lot at lunch because 0:16:59.680 --> 0:17:01.240 he wasn't one of the Irish kids. He wasn't one 0:17:01.280 --> 0:17:03.680 of the Italian kids. He made the mistake of trying 0:17:03.760 --> 0:17:06.360 to befriend a couple of black kids that hadn't gone well. 0:17:06.640 --> 0:17:08.240 He'd ended up with a black eye and a few 0:17:08.280 --> 0:17:16.040 new vocabulary words. I'm sorry, it'll be any shaps. It is, 0:17:16.400 --> 0:17:18.879 this is, it's every single thing, he says. You're like, so, 0:17:19.040 --> 0:17:20.840 did this literally happened to you? You had a bad 0:17:20.880 --> 0:17:23.520 experience in this in your life. No, I don't think 0:17:23.560 --> 0:17:25.840 this actually happened. No. I think he imagined that if 0:17:25.880 --> 0:17:29.680 he had tried to talk about it's the thing that 0:17:29.800 --> 0:17:33.200 you do where you like imagine conversations with people and 0:17:33.280 --> 0:17:35.159 you get into an argument about them, like, well, this 0:17:35.320 --> 0:17:37.480 is what I would say, then that's what this is. 0:17:37.560 --> 0:17:42.159 This is his Yeah. So, because I'm trying to befriend 0:17:42.200 --> 0:17:45.720 black kids is a bad idea, he said, because of 0:17:45.800 --> 0:17:48.760 the words you'll learn. He sat alone until he made 0:17:48.800 --> 0:17:51.680 the mistake of a city of looking up one day 0:17:51.880 --> 0:17:55.560 and standing standing above him, glaring at him, was a behemoth, 0:17:55.680 --> 0:17:59.920 a black kid named Yard. Nobody knew his real name. Everybody, 0:18:00.080 --> 0:18:02.800 he just called him Yard because he stood on played 0:18:02.840 --> 0:18:05.679 on the school football team, stood six ft five, clocked 0:18:05.720 --> 0:18:11.280 in in a solid two hundred pounds. He's it's very funny, 0:18:11.600 --> 0:18:15.920 but I'm sorry. Uh, nobody knows his name, but he's 0:18:15.960 --> 0:18:18.679 on the football team. Yes, no one knows his name. 0:18:18.760 --> 0:18:23.119 What's on his jersey? No one knows his name Yard, 0:18:23.760 --> 0:18:27.760 No one knows his dis blame, unbelievable. Then he's just 0:18:27.840 --> 0:18:32.080 number twelve. Nobody knows the star football player's name. No, 0:18:32.400 --> 0:18:37.200 he's Yard. Never mind, I'm not mad where he goes 0:18:37.440 --> 0:18:39.280 and nobody even cared to find out where he got 0:18:39.400 --> 0:18:41.600 that nick, I'm not mad, you're mad. You're the ones. 0:18:43.160 --> 0:18:48.160 How we all doing great? Never been better? So Yard 0:18:48.200 --> 0:18:50.320 stood six ft five, clocked in in a solid tune 0:18:50.320 --> 0:18:52.000 at eighty pounds, and looked like he was headed straight 0:18:52.040 --> 0:18:56.080 for a lifetime of person work. Oh jesus, are you 0:18:57.240 --> 0:19:01.560 kidding me? Excuse me? What does that look like? Then? 0:19:06.200 --> 0:19:08.720 Don't be off put by his laughing. Just how we 0:19:08.840 --> 0:19:12.440 deal with this pain we're to We're not even two 0:19:12.560 --> 0:19:18.040 pages into the chapter one. This is absolute trash, headed 0:19:18.080 --> 0:19:20.560 for a life. Why is he headed? Five? Because he's 0:19:20.600 --> 0:19:23.560 a tall black man. He's the star football team, Ben. 0:19:24.240 --> 0:19:29.719 Maybe he's not for prison. The coach loved him, everyone 0:19:29.800 --> 0:19:34.399 else feared him. Okay, all right, Yeah, So Brett looks 0:19:34.520 --> 0:19:39.080 up and this causes Yard to attack him. Um, oh 0:19:39.680 --> 0:19:42.640 my god. I thought that Brett was a vehemoth man 0:19:42.920 --> 0:19:47.399 as well. I thought he was. That's a good point, Katie. 0:19:47.480 --> 0:19:49.480 But he was small in school. Okay, he had a 0:19:49.480 --> 0:19:56.240 growth spurt once he started using gud. Okay, that makes sense. 0:19:56.280 --> 0:19:59.359 At some point he turned from Ben Shapiro literally into 0:19:59.440 --> 0:20:03.240 Ward Jim roll right. It's just like this, like eventually 0:20:03.240 --> 0:20:08.200 he turned into a bear. Right. Ben's just waiting like 0:20:09.520 --> 0:20:12.560 my dad didn't. He's just watching Brave on a loop, 0:20:12.720 --> 0:20:14.480 just like that's going to be me one day. I'm 0:20:14.520 --> 0:20:18.880 going to be the bear. No, that's liberal propaganda. Also Frozen, 0:20:19.560 --> 0:20:25.160 definitely liberal propaganda. So guys, this is I looked ahead, 0:20:25.240 --> 0:20:28.840 and it's very bad. So Ben's Brett is sitting down 0:20:28.880 --> 0:20:31.520 at school and and Yard looks at him and he 0:20:31.560 --> 0:20:34.040 makes the mistake of looking up, and then Yard mumbles 0:20:34.080 --> 0:20:37.160 something in his face. What said Brett? I said, Yard? 0:20:37.240 --> 0:20:41.000 Groud growled, did you just call me in word? Because 0:20:41.080 --> 0:20:45.320 I just heard you call me inward. Yeah, did you 0:20:45.359 --> 0:20:47.440 call him N word? No? I don't think he did, 0:20:47.840 --> 0:20:49.920 but I mean in his head Ben Shapiro did when 0:20:49.920 --> 0:20:53.840 he came up with this character, Like he's like thinking 0:20:53.920 --> 0:20:58.400 this and oh my gosh, okay, you know what isn't 0:20:58.440 --> 0:21:00.760 headed for a lifetime of prison work outs. I can't 0:21:00.760 --> 0:21:03.880 begin to imagine the products and services that support this podcast. 0:21:03.880 --> 0:21:07.760 I was going to guess Yard. Actually, Yard probably makes 0:21:07.840 --> 0:21:11.160 millions of dollars as a as a talented football player 0:21:11.200 --> 0:21:14.119 who just got angry because Ben Shapiro absolutely called him 0:21:14.160 --> 0:21:18.600 the N word. Cool. It still counts even if it's 0:21:18.640 --> 0:21:21.480 under your breath, Ben, Yeah, even if it's under your 0:21:21.520 --> 0:21:27.840 breath every waking hour of the day. All right, products, 0:21:34.320 --> 0:21:37.680 we're back, and we are just slowly making our way 0:21:37.720 --> 0:21:40.640 through this book. We did the we did the blurbs. 0:21:41.080 --> 0:21:45.720 We did we got the description, the physical description of 0:21:45.760 --> 0:21:47.480 the main character. I don't think we're going to get 0:21:47.520 --> 0:21:51.000 far through this book, you guys. I don't care because 0:21:51.000 --> 0:21:53.920 the next chapter is the President. But I want to 0:21:53.960 --> 0:21:56.440 know how this situation with Yard works. Oh good God. 0:21:57.520 --> 0:22:00.359 Yard's hand came down on Brett's shoulder, heavy is doom. 0:22:00.520 --> 0:22:02.679 Brett could feel his bowels begin to give way when 0:22:02.720 --> 0:22:06.719 a smallish hand emerged on emerged on yard shoulder. Oh 0:22:06.840 --> 0:22:12.920 my god, what a bad right, so bad? You remember 0:22:12.960 --> 0:22:15.199 when you we've all had a hand emerged on us, 0:22:16.200 --> 0:22:25.320 just punches right through like the chest burster. Oh my god. 0:22:26.800 --> 0:22:34.920 Ben Shapiro writes the way monks fuck just like badly, badly, 0:22:37.160 --> 0:22:42.520 but also constantly apparently. Yeah, yeah, boy, okay. Uh so 0:22:42.800 --> 0:22:48.040 a hand emerchuse on a black hand. Yards swiveled ponderously 0:22:48.119 --> 0:22:52.880 to face down the person connected with the hand ponderously ponderously. Yeah, 0:22:53.320 --> 0:22:57.040 this is his black friend Derek, who defends uh Ben 0:22:57.119 --> 0:23:03.080 Shapiro for not saying the INN word. Yeah, yeah, so 0:23:03.280 --> 0:23:06.280 it's good. It's it's it's good. So Derek, Derek is 0:23:06.359 --> 0:23:10.040 his friend, Um who such an obvious stand in for Ben. Yeah, 0:23:10.520 --> 0:23:14.359 it's incredibly obvious. And Derek is a stand in for 0:23:14.480 --> 0:23:16.600 the friend that been, the black friend. Ben Shapiro has 0:23:16.680 --> 0:23:20.160 never made a wish that he had so that these 0:23:20.200 --> 0:23:22.760 situations could be avoided, and who would stand up for 0:23:22.840 --> 0:23:24.639 him every time on Twitter he got called out as 0:23:24.680 --> 0:23:30.040 a racist. Actually, my friend Derek defended me when I 0:23:30.440 --> 0:23:34.119 thought the N word a couple of times at the 0:23:34.280 --> 0:23:40.639 definite future prisoner. Unbelievable. Oh my gosh. Okay, so, uh 0:23:40.920 --> 0:23:42.560 one thing I want you to do at some point 0:23:42.720 --> 0:23:45.880 is uh do a search for the word honky, because 0:23:45.880 --> 0:23:49.920