Speaker 1: What doing something he didn't think he would do. My me.
Speaker 1: Robert Evans hosted Behind the Bastards, and I'm here looking
Speaker 1: at Sophie's horrified face. You know, Sophie, my grandpa had
Speaker 1: a saying my co host today are Katie Stole and
Speaker 1: Cody Johnson. How are you all doing? Grandpa? It was weird.
Speaker 1: We all thought he was going senile when he would
Speaker 1: just shout that out. But twenty years ago, but then
Speaker 1: I met you Bothie, Sorry, Grandpa Evans? How are you
Speaker 1: guys doing today? All right? A plus good? Right on time? Yeah,
Speaker 1: Cody is only thirty seven minutes late to record, which
Speaker 1: I have to say. Normally there is a calendar invite
Speaker 1: that tells me what time we are recording, and there
Speaker 1: was not this time, and so I did not know
Speaker 1: there was another calendar invite that said one thirty, which
Speaker 1: is what I was expecting. Cody is ready for coming,
Speaker 1: so quick quick check, Katie? Were you on time? I
Speaker 1: was on time? Hey, Robert, quick check? Were you on time? Maybe?
Speaker 1: Here's the thing? Were I checked? Chris? Were you on time?
Speaker 1: I do normally give Cody a little reminder, and that
Speaker 1: is my fault because you are no no, no, absolutely not,
Speaker 1: absolutely no, Sophie. There's nothing woker than letting a woman
Speaker 1: take the blame for a man's I want all of
Speaker 1: our listeners to know. I did not mean that. Seriously.
Speaker 1: It was Katie and Sophie's fault. They collaborated like Barack
Speaker 1: Obama and Pete Bota. Katie called Sophie and was like,
Speaker 1: should I remind Cody? And Sophie was like no, Should
Speaker 1: I send an email invite like I normally do? And
Speaker 1: Katie's like no, And then they laughed and laughed and laughed.
Speaker 1: I was on the email thread with them. I thought
Speaker 1: it was messed up. It's or or perhaps you fucked up.
Speaker 1: Continue Robert with your show. So, guys, you remember how
Speaker 1: last year we had a couple of fun moments where
Speaker 1: we got together as friends as as as colleagues, as comrades,
Speaker 1: and we randomly page through terrible books. How could I forget?
Speaker 1: We learned about what an Edgregor is, which is the
Speaker 1: collective satan that the Jewish people have created with their
Speaker 1: own their own seared into my memory. That was a
Speaker 1: good one. Yeah. I remember the science book science book
Speaker 1: we read You Were the Q and on book we
Speaker 1: read We learned a lot of good information science Part Science,
Speaker 1: Part two. Today I got a little bit of a
Speaker 1: different book because sometimes reading through random books at random
Speaker 1: points in time means I don't have to prepare as much,
Speaker 1: which can help us to get a head over here.
Speaker 1: And I love that for you and for us for
Speaker 1: our show. And today we're going to read a book
Speaker 1: called True Allegiance. Now. This has been described by the
Speaker 1: New York Times bestselling author Brad Floor as a blockbuster
Speaker 1: debut thriller ripped straight from the headlines, and its author
Speaker 1: is a fellaw. Y'all might know old Binny Shaps my favorite.
Speaker 1: And Shapiro. Yeah, we are. We are doing the Ben
Speaker 1: Shapiro book today. This is fun because I've novelist Ben Shapira.
Speaker 1: I've been muting him more avoiding him on Twitter. So
Speaker 1: it's been a minute. You've been taking care of your
Speaker 1: mental health, and I'm ready to tarnish it right now.
Speaker 1: Just light it on fire. There's only so much room
Speaker 1: we have on our day to day. That can't have
Speaker 1: been easy for you. It wasn't. Everything he says is wrong. Now,
Speaker 1: I wanted to talk a little bit before this about
Speaker 1: what we do when we have a book by a
Speaker 1: terrible person that I don't want to support financially, but
Speaker 1: I want to read because there's a trick and I
Speaker 1: wasn't telling people the trick before, but now, like, fuck it,
Speaker 1: what's what's the worst that could happen? The key is,
Speaker 1: The key is as far as I know, this isn't illegal.
Speaker 1: The key is purchase the book on Kindle, right, you
Speaker 1: download it to your device, you disconnect your device from
Speaker 1: the Internet, you apply for a refund from Kindle, and
Speaker 1: then you finished doing what you're going to do in
Speaker 1: the book before you reconnected to the Internet and removes it.
Speaker 1: Great is legal to me? Actually it does sound very leegal,
Speaker 1: so a little bit, uh, a little bit of advice
Speaker 1: now true. Allegiance was a book published in two thousand
Speaker 1: and sixteen by Postial Press. Uh and of course author
Speaker 1: Ben Shapiro and I want to read you all the
Speaker 1: Amazon description so we so you can know what we're
Speaker 1: going for here. New York Times best selling author Ben
Speaker 1: Shapiro's new novel asks how close are we to our
Speaker 1: country's collapse? And we'll be able to stop it? Once
Speaker 1: it begins? America is coming apart in a legal immigration crisis,
Speaker 1: has broken out along America's southern border. There are race
Speaker 1: rights in Detroit, a Finmary, a fiery female rancher turned
Speaker 1: militia leaders, avowed revenge on the president for his arrogant policies,
Speaker 1: and the world's most notorious terrorist is planning a massive
Speaker 1: attack that could destroy the United States as we know it. Meanwhile,
Speaker 1: the President is too consumed by legacies seeking to see
Speaker 1: our country's deep peril. Bret Hawthorne as the youngest general
Speaker 1: in the United States Army and he's stuck alone behind
Speaker 1: the enemy lines in Afghanistan. He's the last lost soldier
Speaker 1: of a failed war, fighting to stay alive and make
Speaker 1: it back home, but will be able to to have
Speaker 1: the collapse of America in time. It sounds like a
Speaker 1: real thriller. I have a question. Does there an audio
Speaker 1: book version of this? Oh my god, Yeah, they're yeah,
Speaker 1: it's free with your audible trial. Does he read the audible?
Speaker 1: I have to know, because it just sounds way better
Speaker 1: than in your voice than it does in his voice,
Speaker 1: and I feel like it's it's yeah. So could you
Speaker 1: look it up? Because I'm disconnected from the internet, So
Speaker 1: I bet there's a foreword it. Oh my god, Oh
Speaker 1: my god, you guys, it's not even the foreword. You
Speaker 1: know how books will have like a praise for this
Speaker 1: book page where it has the first quote on the
Speaker 1: praise for True Allegiance page. Meet our new Iron, Rand
Speaker 1: dot Com, Salon dot com, Salon, Oh my god. Oh
Speaker 1: it's so good. There's a culture quote. Provocative, intense, and
Speaker 1: about five minutes from becoming reality. Ben Shapiro's True Allegiance
Speaker 1: is a rivening thriller about what happens when America folds.
Speaker 1: It just sounds rooted in fact, not feeling. He's got
Speaker 1: an Allan West quote in there. That's good. That's really good, boy.
Speaker 1: And then some people that I don't recognize. Okay, so cool,
Speaker 1: we've got we're on a good It sounds like it's
Speaker 1: a good book. It sounds like it's a good book
Speaker 1: by good people. I'm very excited for this. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: so it does he read it, Sophie, Oh my good gracious,
Speaker 1: that's the right side of history. That's we're doing. True Allegiance. Oh,
Speaker 1: I don't think he does. I don't think. I don't
Speaker 1: think he does. Narrated by somebody who is not Ben.
Speaker 1: That's a good call. Because you might not believe what
Speaker 1: you learn about Brigadier General Brett how and the prisident.
Speaker 1: He only cares about Obama, I mean not Obama, and
Speaker 1: he's a he's a he's a different president. Right, all right,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna start with I think chapter one
Speaker 1: looks like it's opening with, like, you know, we were
Speaker 1: starting with like a terrorist attack going on in New
Speaker 1: York City. Wait wait, wait what year was this? Did
Speaker 1: you say that two thousand sixteen this came out? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I would have had to. Yeah. Great, so the president
Speaker 1: obsessive legacy would be Obama, not the president. Yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: it is also obsessed with his legacy in a different way,
Speaker 1: in a different way. All right, Oh no, it doesn't
Speaker 1: start Okay, so the first episode doesn't start with a
Speaker 1: new terror. It starts with like nine eleven. Uh. And
Speaker 1: I think the character who's going to grow up to
Speaker 1: be our our our ranch militia leader in New York
Speaker 1: at nine eleven, seeing the towers at the building. So
Speaker 1: that that seems like what we're going on with this
Speaker 1: this prologue here. So that's good. We're kicking it off
Speaker 1: with the nine and eleven and then we move right
Speaker 1: in with chapter one to Brett Hawthorne in Afghanistan, Brigadier
Speaker 1: General Bret Hawthorne looked at his M nine magazine and
Speaker 1: cursed to himself empty. He was set up against a
Speaker 1: mud brick hovel in the city's poor part of town.
Speaker 1: Even in Kabul there was a large income gap, and
Speaker 1: felt the sweat trickle down cold between his shoulder blades.
Speaker 1: He hadn't been alone for years. General has always had
Speaker 1: a personal security detail, but things had gone hellishly wrong.
Speaker 1: Hawthorne was a bear of a man, six three in
Speaker 1: his bare feet. And let's talk about this a minute.
Speaker 1: I've gotten criticized in the past for making fun of
Speaker 1: Ben Shapiro's shortness. And it's true that you shouldn't make
Speaker 1: fun of people for being short. Some people in this
Speaker 1: very room short, most of us, most of us, most
Speaker 1: of us except for you and myself. Yeah, I'm not tall.
Speaker 1: I'm There are more there taller people than me in
Speaker 1: this room. There are there are, And it's fine, there's
Speaker 1: nothing nothing, It says nothing about the personage. But also, well,
Speaker 1: so here here's the other thing. For many, many, many
Speaker 1: many years, Ben Shapiro claimed that he was my actual
Speaker 1: height five eight I did, I was unaware of He
Speaker 1: is not we as we all know. Um. So it's
Speaker 1: just one of those things where, Okay, you're gonna lie
Speaker 1: about this a lot something I don't know. I don't
Speaker 1: know I'm making that up, but I've heard that. But
Speaker 1: he's been lying about his height for years. It is funny,
Speaker 1: and it's funny that his clear self insert character Bret
Speaker 1: Hawthorne is a bear of a man, six three in
Speaker 1: his bare feet and two pounds in his underwear. So, yeah,
Speaker 1: what I'm struck by this is like, there's all these
Speaker 1: stories Ben Shapiro, Sorry, no, no, it's fine. Um uh.
Speaker 1: Ben Shapiro wanted to be a Hollywood screen run and
Speaker 1: he's film to add of that, There's just these few sentences.
Speaker 1: I just can feel him being like this would make
Speaker 1: a great movie, you know, like he's writing it, Like
Speaker 1: those guys of Hollywood won't make it. I'll write this,
Speaker 1: you know. Yeah. Yeah, I'm also wondering as a gun guy.
Speaker 1: So the M nine is the nine millimeter Bretta side
Speaker 1: arm that was up until recently, the standard side arm
Speaker 1: of the military. It says he looks at his M
Speaker 1: nine magazine. Now there's a couple of things that that
Speaker 1: makes me think. So, if you're actually shooting a handgun
Speaker 1: like that and it's empty, the slide locks back, and
Speaker 1: you can immediately tell that it's empty because the slide
Speaker 1: is locked back. Uh. At no point, if you're in
Speaker 1: a firefight, would you reject the magazine and look at
Speaker 1: the magazine to determine whether or not your weapon was empty? Um?
Speaker 1: And I'm not I'm not sure how Brett Hawthorne combat general.
Speaker 1: That doesn't make any sense as an opening, Like it
Speaker 1: makes sense if he was like looked like the slide
Speaker 1: locked back of Brett Hawthorne's M nine magazine and he
Speaker 1: cursed to himself empty like that makes gun sense. I
Speaker 1: can explain this to you. Ben isn't know he's talking.
Speaker 1: Thank you for that, Katie. Um, I have to back
Speaker 1: up real quick. We're doing really well. I need you,
Speaker 1: Robert real quick to read the blurb at the beginning
Speaker 1: one more time with Iron Rand. Oh about Iron Rand. Okay,
Speaker 1: that's the whole thing. We're scrolling back. We're scrolling back
Speaker 1: true allegiance, Meet our new Iron Randy by Salon dot Com. Okay,
Speaker 1: that's it. So here's the thing, folks. Uh, if you
Speaker 1: were to go to Salon dot com Salon dot com
Speaker 1: and you were to look for that phrase, you'd find
Speaker 1: an article. That article is called meet our New Iron
Speaker 1: Rand colon. Ben Shapiro's ham fisted propaganda fiction is even
Speaker 1: worse than you guessed. Subheader the wingnut pundit resents the
Speaker 1: liberal tone of TV but turns out cartoonish, right lenning
Speaker 1: prose unreal? Thank you for looking up? That is that
Speaker 1: lead of somebody's can you can do whatever you want?
Speaker 1: It's amazing. It's the funniest thing I think Ben has
Speaker 1: ever done. It's the it's it's everything about him. We
Speaker 1: need regulation of book blur. Taking that blurb like no
Speaker 1: one would want to be like, oh I'm the new
Speaker 1: Iron Rand, Like already it's like, that's not like praise
Speaker 1: that you would want to promote. But the fact that
Speaker 1: it's just pulled from this really really mean headline is
Speaker 1: so good, you guys, there's so much more to say
Speaker 1: about combat. General Bret Hawthorne. Okay, okay, oh my god, okay,
Speaker 1: So so Bret Hawthorne, who is pounds in his underwear,
Speaker 1: has a graying blonde crew cut and a face carved
Speaker 1: of granite Um God, not not a face that looks
Speaker 1: carved of granite, but a face carved band whatever, horrifying
Speaker 1: reality for him. I know what a nightmare for Brett Hawthorn.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm kind of into this. It's like a
Speaker 1: fantasy thing now, toxic masculinity. He can never change his face.
Speaker 1: Feel like he's touching himself when he writes about Bret Hawthorne,
Speaker 1: combat general and not at all a Ben Shapiro stand in.
Speaker 1: So it's so Brett is looking up at the blown
Speaker 1: up buildings of Kabul and he he could see the
Speaker 1: Kabul Serena Hotel burning. The new coalition government had bragged
Speaker 1: about the hotel is the standard bear for the modernization
Speaker 1: of the city with its historically imitative Islamic architecture, satellite
Speaker 1: TV and wireless internet. Now the flames looked at the
Speaker 1: windows as ashes floated down on the city, and I
Speaker 1: feel like he brings up that it's Islamic architecture for
Speaker 1: a reason to make it seem like even more of
Speaker 1: a bad idea. No, I'm just being specific in my pros,
Speaker 1: like I'm sure that if knows what Islamic architecture looks
Speaker 1: like for one thing. Um, No, I'm sure if you
Speaker 1: were to control f that file and just type Islamic,
Speaker 1: it would come up as like a descriptor for so
Speaker 1: many things they do not need that word. I bet
Speaker 1: you're right, we're indexing right now. I'm gonna move right
Speaker 1: along to uh. So it goes on to him talking
Speaker 1: about how a few short this is pretty great too. Actually,
Speaker 1: a few short years ago, Afghanistan had seemed to be
Speaker 1: on the up swig. The talent had been on the run,
Speaker 1: hiding in the mountains of the Tora Bora region sally Forth.
Speaker 1: Every so often it hit a supply chain. The coalition
Speaker 1: forces had been sustimate. So a few years ago everything
Speaker 1: they'd been great in Afghanistan. The arrogant president and Hathor
Speaker 1: knew all this because he had designed the strategy, and
Speaker 1: now the strategy had gone to ship. Well, Bret Hawthorne
Speaker 1: thought to himself, at least I can tell those stupid
Speaker 1: bastards I told you so. It is delightful to see
Speaker 1: who thinks that he is. Oh boy, you guys in
Speaker 1: Islamic is fewer times than I thought. But I'm already
Speaker 1: seeing some religion of peace talk that I'm sure is
Speaker 1: going to be fun. Oh boy, the all the words
Speaker 1: that are available in in like the little search, because
Speaker 1: you only get the few words around it that late
Speaker 1: stage Islam is peace, pussy shit. That's that's that's a
Speaker 1: sentence for you. I don't know the context yet, but
Speaker 1: I'm sure we'll learn. I love the idea that has
Speaker 1: been is writing this. He's like his des typing and
Speaker 1: he has a cigar in his mouth that he will
Speaker 1: never light. No, he's just because it hurts his lungs. Yes, exactly. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he hates the taste and hates what it does to him.
Speaker 1: He's got to have the cigar and like a glass
Speaker 1: of scotch that is mostly ice that he doesn't sit
Speaker 1: from cost him three dollars, you've got to savor it.
Speaker 1: So um, we're gonna talk about Bret Hawthorne's background now
Speaker 1: because we start like a great writer. He starts in
Speaker 1: the action se right, pinned down under fired, Islamic hotel
Speaker 1: is burning. He grips your right away. You're like exciting, like,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, it's like die hard but iron Rand, Yeah, dying,
Speaker 1: dying Rand. And now now we go back to let's
Speaker 1: learn about Bret hawthorn'sground. Bret Hawthorne was the youngest general
Speaker 1: in the American military. He'd grown up lower middle class
Speaker 1: in Chicago. His mother a teacher, his father a salesman company.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, at some point you got his search how
Speaker 1: many times he mentioned Chicago? Oh? Boy? Is he Is
Speaker 1: that a thing for him? Um? It's a thing for
Speaker 1: him because of Obama's thing for him, because of guns.
Speaker 1: Is a thing for him, because of black people in general. Um. Boys.
Speaker 1: So half of the time Chicago's mentioned in this book,
Speaker 1: it's the South side of Chicago, which is the baddest
Speaker 1: part of town. And if you go there, you better
Speaker 1: be aware for a man namely Roy Brown, bad, bad,
Speaker 1: bad man in the hole damn town, madder than a
Speaker 1: junkyard dog. That's right, Katie, That's absolutely correct. What that's
Speaker 1: a great So he'd been a shy, gentle quiet kid,
Speaker 1: built like a read but he learned one skill pretty
Speaker 1: quickly at Thomas Edison High how to talk his way
Speaker 1: from a bad out of a bad situ. O good lord. Okay.
Speaker 1: So he learned this from Derek Um because Brett, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think Derek's gonna be a black inner city kid
Speaker 1: who teaches him how to be cool. That's my guess.
Speaker 1: So Brett sat by himself a lot at lunch because
Speaker 1: he wasn't one of the Irish kids. He wasn't one
Speaker 1: of the Italian kids. He made the mistake of trying
Speaker 1: to befriend a couple of black kids that hadn't gone well.
Speaker 1: He'd ended up with a black eye and a few
Speaker 1: new vocabulary words. I'm sorry, it'll be any shaps. It is,
Speaker 1: this is, it's every single thing, he says. You're like, so,
Speaker 1: did this literally happened to you? You had a bad
Speaker 1: experience in this in your life. No, I don't think
Speaker 1: this actually happened. No. I think he imagined that if
Speaker 1: he had tried to talk about it's the thing that
Speaker 1: you do where you like imagine conversations with people and
Speaker 1: you get into an argument about them, like, well, this
Speaker 1: is what I would say, then that's what this is.
Speaker 1: This is his Yeah. So, because I'm trying to befriend
Speaker 1: black kids is a bad idea, he said, because of
Speaker 1: the words you'll learn. He sat alone until he made
Speaker 1: the mistake of a city of looking up one day
Speaker 1: and standing standing above him, glaring at him, was a behemoth,
Speaker 1: a black kid named Yard. Nobody knew his real name. Everybody,
Speaker 1: he just called him Yard because he stood on played
Speaker 1: on the school football team, stood six ft five, clocked
Speaker 1: in in a solid two hundred pounds. He's it's very funny,
Speaker 1: but I'm sorry. Uh, nobody knows his name, but he's
Speaker 1: on the football team. Yes, no one knows his name.
Speaker 1: What's on his jersey? No one knows his name Yard,
Speaker 1: No one knows his dis blame, unbelievable. Then he's just
Speaker 1: number twelve. Nobody knows the star football player's name. No,
Speaker 1: he's Yard. Never mind, I'm not mad where he goes
Speaker 1: and nobody even cared to find out where he got
Speaker 1: that nick, I'm not mad, you're mad. You're the ones.
Speaker 1: How we all doing great? Never been better? So Yard
Speaker 1: stood six ft five, clocked in in a solid tune
Speaker 1: at eighty pounds, and looked like he was headed straight
Speaker 1: for a lifetime of person work. Oh jesus, are you
Speaker 1: kidding me? Excuse me? What does that look like? Then?
Speaker 1: Don't be off put by his laughing. Just how we
Speaker 1: deal with this pain we're to We're not even two
Speaker 1: pages into the chapter one. This is absolute trash, headed
Speaker 1: for a life. Why is he headed? Five? Because he's
Speaker 1: a tall black man. He's the star football team, Ben.
Speaker 1: Maybe he's not for prison. The coach loved him, everyone
Speaker 1: else feared him. Okay, all right, Yeah, So Brett looks
Speaker 1: up and this causes Yard to attack him. Um, oh
Speaker 1: my god. I thought that Brett was a vehemoth man
Speaker 1: as well. I thought he was. That's a good point, Katie.
Speaker 1: But he was small in school. Okay, he had a
Speaker 1: growth spurt once he started using gud. Okay, that makes sense.
Speaker 1: At some point he turned from Ben Shapiro literally into
Speaker 1: Ward Jim roll right. It's just like this, like eventually
Speaker 1: he turned into a bear. Right. Ben's just waiting like
Speaker 1: my dad didn't. He's just watching Brave on a loop,
Speaker 1: just like that's going to be me one day. I'm
Speaker 1: going to be the bear. No, that's liberal propaganda. Also Frozen,
Speaker 1: definitely liberal propaganda. So guys, this is I looked ahead,
Speaker 1: and it's very bad. So Ben's Brett is sitting down
Speaker 1: at school and and Yard looks at him and he
Speaker 1: makes the mistake of looking up, and then Yard mumbles
Speaker 1: something in his face. What said Brett? I said, Yard?
Speaker 1: Groud growled, did you just call me in word? Because
Speaker 1: I just heard you call me inward. Yeah, did you
Speaker 1: call him N word? No? I don't think he did,
Speaker 1: but I mean in his head Ben Shapiro did when
Speaker 1: he came up with this character, Like he's like thinking
Speaker 1: this and oh my gosh, okay, you know what isn't
Speaker 1: headed for a lifetime of prison work outs. I can't
Speaker 1: begin to imagine the products and services that support this podcast.
Speaker 1: I was going to guess Yard. Actually, Yard probably makes
Speaker 1: millions of dollars as a as a talented football player
Speaker 1: who just got angry because Ben Shapiro absolutely called him
Speaker 1: the N word. Cool. It still counts even if it's
Speaker 1: under your breath, Ben, Yeah, even if it's under your
Speaker 1: breath every waking hour of the day. All right, products,
Speaker 1: we're back, and we are just slowly making our way
Speaker 1: through this book. We did the we did the blurbs.
Speaker 1: We did we got the description, the physical description of
Speaker 1: the main character. I don't think we're going to get
Speaker 1: far through this book, you guys. I don't care because
Speaker 1: the next chapter is the President. But I want to
Speaker 1: know how this situation with Yard works. Oh good God.
Speaker 1: Yard's hand came down on Brett's shoulder, heavy is doom.
Speaker 1: Brett could feel his bowels begin to give way when
Speaker 1: a smallish hand emerged on emerged on yard shoulder. Oh
Speaker 1: my god, what a bad right, so bad? You remember
Speaker 1: when you we've all had a hand emerged on us,
Speaker 1: just punches right through like the chest burster. Oh my god.
Speaker 1: Ben Shapiro writes the way monks fuck just like badly, badly,
Speaker 1: but also constantly apparently. Yeah, yeah, boy, okay. Uh so
Speaker 1: a hand emerchuse on a black hand. Yards swiveled ponderously
Speaker 1: to face down the person connected with the hand ponderously ponderously. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this is his black friend Derek, who defends uh Ben
Speaker 1: Shapiro for not saying the INN word. Yeah, yeah, so
Speaker 1: it's good. It's it's it's good. So Derek, Derek is
Speaker 1: his friend, Um who such an obvious stand in for Ben. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's incredibly obvious. And Derek is a stand in for
Speaker 1: the friend that been, the black friend. Ben Shapiro has
Speaker 1: never made a wish that he had so that these
Speaker 1: situations could be avoided, and who would stand up for
Speaker 1: him every time on Twitter he got called out as
Speaker 1: a racist. Actually, my friend Derek defended me when I
Speaker 1: thought the N word a couple of times at the
Speaker 1: definite future prisoner. Unbelievable. Oh my gosh. Okay, so, uh
Speaker 1: one thing I want you to do at some point
Speaker 1: is uh do a search for the word honky, because
Speaker 1: I feel like, yes, definitely. But first we have to
Speaker 1: talk about Brett's growth spurt. It's going to happen between
Speaker 1: his junior and senior years of high school. Brett finally
Speaker 1: hit his growth spurt. Like his dad, he bloomed late,
Speaker 1: but when he did, he put on muscle and height
Speaker 1: like a racehorse. He sprouted five inches to six ft two.
Speaker 1: He broadened through the chest, filling out to a healthy
Speaker 1: to fifteen. The coaches that ignored him in high school,
Speaker 1: but at the Citadel he goes to military school, he
Speaker 1: quickly became their favorite. Yeah, it's a real sad inside
Speaker 1: into his psyche of what he desperately wants. I feel
Speaker 1: like I've learned so much more about Benny Shap's just
Speaker 1: from the first couple of pages. Not hate him, Look,
Speaker 1: I mean that it's sad. We're all we're all suffering
Speaker 1: from the same problem, we just express it in different ways.
Speaker 1: And Ben has done this since then. Um. I uh,
Speaker 1: I've thought about this before, um, specifically with Jordan Peterson
Speaker 1: doctor doctor George Yes Um, Jordan Bumblebee Peterson, uh in
Speaker 1: that he so he tries to explain things to people,
Speaker 1: and he like slips in some I think odious views,
Speaker 1: and he does it language that seems like demic, but
Speaker 1: it's also kind of contradictory. It's like it's it's if
Speaker 1: you pass what he says, it's not great. Um, and
Speaker 1: he just sort of talks and talks and talks. I've
Speaker 1: always wanted him to stop what he's doing and write
Speaker 1: a novel because I know that if he writes a novel,
Speaker 1: then his views will be very revealed and a tremendous
Speaker 1: here not like not intentionally necessarily, it just it'll lose
Speaker 1: out of him, like here's here's what I think about
Speaker 1: everybody on the page. He will write a novel that
Speaker 1: he thinks is about like a decent man running for
Speaker 1: president and saving the country, and everyone will point out
Speaker 1: ten minutes after it's released, like, oh, you wrote mind
Speaker 1: com exactly exactly. You'll be like all these all these
Speaker 1: emotions and feelings you're talking about, and like what you
Speaker 1: think needs to like to take taking the chaos and
Speaker 1: turning into order everything you're writing about there will be
Speaker 1: like a three page part where Jordan Peterson talks about
Speaker 1: seeing his first acidic jew and it will be like
Speaker 1: a word for word almost what Yeah, and one will
Speaker 1: know it until it's published. He won't know it. And uh,
Speaker 1: I definitely want him to do that. And I'm glad
Speaker 1: that Ben has done that. It shares a lot. So
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna skim the next couple of pages because
Speaker 1: we've got to move on to the president. Um. But yeah,
Speaker 1: so when he was twenty two, he got sent to
Speaker 1: Saudi Arabia and and and missed Operation Desert Storm for
Speaker 1: the most part. Um, and he was really bummed that
Speaker 1: we let the curds die, which I didn't hear Ben
Speaker 1: speak up a whole lot when we abandon them in seriously,
Speaker 1: why not in a position he's changed. Yeah, it's interesting. Um,
Speaker 1: he meets someone named Ellen, who I don't care about. Um,
Speaker 1: they have a kid together. Um, he's in Kosovo as
Speaker 1: a captain. By September eleventh, he's a major. A major.
Speaker 1: By September eleventh, he was a major, a major who,
Speaker 1: by simple coincidence, knew Peshtow. So one of the most
Speaker 1: simple coincidence, a simple coincidence. He learned one of the
Speaker 1: most complex and difficult to master languages on the face
Speaker 1: of the planet, just as a coincidence, Like you do, I,
Speaker 1: I was just drawn there. There was no reason. Here's
Speaker 1: the best part. He's one of the first one on
Speaker 1: the ground in Afghanistan. And uh he knew little of
Speaker 1: the country's culture, but his knowledge of the language made
Speaker 1: him a valuable commodity. So do you know a little
Speaker 1: of a culture but noah language, How did you learn
Speaker 1: that language? Yeah? How do you learn Pashto? And nothing
Speaker 1: about Afghan culture? Fans view of the world. It's amazing,
Speaker 1: it's like and it's like, yeah, he did like a matrix.
Speaker 1: He like he like jacked into the matrix and he
Speaker 1: learned the language. But nothing, but nothing at all, not
Speaker 1: a goddamn thing about Afghan culture. So he hangs out
Speaker 1: with the Northern Alliance. Some rotton there's a Rosetta stone,
Speaker 1: the Pashto Rosetta stone. Coincidence, missed all the culture stuff. Cool? Uh, Yeah,
Speaker 1: he hung out with the Northern Alliance and it was
Speaker 1: all very Lawrence of Arabia, Brett thought, except that Peter
Speaker 1: O'Toole had never had to deal with roadside bombs or
Speaker 1: donkeys laden with explosives or the were of the opium trade.
Speaker 1: Such a good point, and it's interesting he describes it.
Speaker 1: Is he like is he tempted? Right? There's like half
Speaker 1: it is what I think about the world, and half
Speaker 1: it's like what if it's like could I do? Ah?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I'm sorry. It's so good, it's so good. Okay. Um,
Speaker 1: so yeah, the administration makes a terrible deal that that
Speaker 1: dooms the effort in Afghanistan, and Brett Hawthorne is there
Speaker 1: as it's all falling apart and he's with a CNN
Speaker 1: crew and he saves the day. Um he's he'd been
Speaker 1: ushering the CNN crew around because, as he told his wife,
Speaker 1: got to keep those schmucks from reporting that we eat Muslims.
Speaker 1: What wait wait Robert, So he's he's digging. He's making
Speaker 1: a dig at the mainstream media, obviously, but admitting the candidates,
Speaker 1: but like the yeah, like doing saying the awful things
Speaker 1: like a good thing. He doesn't because CNN would report
Speaker 1: that American soldiers eat Muslims because they hate American soldiers
Speaker 1: and don't, for example, respond worshipfully when we fire missiles
Speaker 1: at an empty air base in Syria and talked about
Speaker 1: the beauty of our weapons. They don't do that. They
Speaker 1: hate the American military. Oh then I hate them exactly,
Speaker 1: all right. So a little dig in here about how
Speaker 1: lazy the CNN people are. And then Brett turned to speak.
Speaker 1: This is after the camera says they've had eno footage.
Speaker 1: Brett turned to speak, and from behind the cameraman he
Speaker 1: saw a child on a donkey about three feet away.
Speaker 1: His service weapon, a Baretta M nine, was in his
Speaker 1: hand before he even felt it leave. He's a kid
Speaker 1: on a weird little racist So I bet he's right.
Speaker 1: I bet he's right. Oh, he's absolutely right. And and
Speaker 1: the evil scene and cameraman zooms in eagerly as the
Speaker 1: situation degenerates, because he wants to wants to capture the
Speaker 1: kid being shot by Yeah, okay, we're going to go
Speaker 1: on to the president here. I don't need I don't
Speaker 1: need more of this description of the child dying. No,
Speaker 1: I don't know that the child. I'm sure he saves
Speaker 1: the child. And the evil scene and cameraman is angry
Speaker 1: at this. President Prescott. Okay, that's a good name. That's
Speaker 1: a I mean, that's a solid. President. We simply he
Speaker 1: didn't do like a very like African uh oh rock
Speaker 1: bo bomb something like that, President black Man, No, he's
Speaker 1: Mark Prescott. Alright, okay, solid solid. We simply can't pay
Speaker 1: for it, Sir. White House Chief of Staff Tommy Bradley
Speaker 1: was standing over the President's desk in the Oval Office,
Speaker 1: a sheaf of budget papers in his hand, crumpled wrinkled
Speaker 1: papers covered in red notes. Than members just didn't add up.
Speaker 1: President Mark Prescott didn't care listen to be tom Oh
Speaker 1: my god, oh how transparent can you be? That's so
Speaker 1: that's like it's also really poorly written. It is because
Speaker 1: we go from like, yeah, the President's chief of staff
Speaker 1: standing over a sheaf of budget papers in his hand,
Speaker 1: crumpled wrinkled papers covered in red notes. That's not even
Speaker 1: a sentence. Crumpled wrinkled papers covered in red notes is
Speaker 1: not a full sentence. There's no action in that sentence.
Speaker 1: It is a creative So it's like a it's like
Speaker 1: palauk style. Yeah, he's got that, like it's like two
Speaker 1: words sentences, you know. And yes, I was going to
Speaker 1: say this has a very Palinuki right, yeah, Palu palanukish
Speaker 1: way too generous. So, um, listen to me, Tommy said,
Speaker 1: the president, my reelection relies on our ability to secure
Speaker 1: funding for this action. You know that, I know that
Speaker 1: the Poles it. We don't have a choice in the matter. Okay,
Speaker 1: so what's this what's this action about? Yeah, Oh, he's
Speaker 1: afraid of becoming a Jimmy Carter was like, what's he
Speaker 1: alluding to? With like, like regards to Obama, I'm still
Speaker 1: we're awhile into this kind. I can't figure out responsibility
Speaker 1: what they can't pay for? Um. I wonder if we'll
Speaker 1: ever find out there was a stock market crash that's
Speaker 1: apparently this Democratic president's fault, just like the stock market
Speaker 1: crash in two thousand and eight didn't start in the
Speaker 1: Bush minutes stration because it was a Bomba's fault that
Speaker 1: it crashed in the Bush administration. I mean, it's a
Speaker 1: Bomb's fault for being black. That is absolutely true. And
Speaker 1: I bet if they'd been at high school with Ben Shapiro,
Speaker 1: they would have had an interaction. Yeah. I bet if
Speaker 1: uh him in high school, be like, you're gonna go
Speaker 1: to prison, prison, and nobody knows your name and nobody
Speaker 1: knows your name Star football player that everybody knows unreal,
Speaker 1: so good. The uemployment rates crap climbed me on ten
Speaker 1: percent and is headed towards the mark if you counted
Speaker 1: those who had stopped looking for a job. The real
Speaker 1: unemployment rate was closer to which was the unemployment rate
Speaker 1: during the Great Depression UM and never was close to
Speaker 1: that during Obama's administration. UM cool. So Prescott did what
Speaker 1: Prescott knew how to do. He survived the easiest way
Speaker 1: to survive in his predecessor's wars, no matter what the cost,
Speaker 1: and then pump up the spending at home. There was
Speaker 1: no glory to be one on the poppy fields of Afghanistan.
Speaker 1: Ever Lasting glory didn't come in the form of military
Speaker 1: victory in this day and age. It came in the
Speaker 1: form of everlasting social programs that grew and inured to
Speaker 1: the benefit of all Americans. He's saying, that's benefit. He's saying,
Speaker 1: not fighting a hopeless wars that waste all of our
Speaker 1: money and and benefit national security not one iota, and
Speaker 1: instead spending the money to help Americans is bad. That
Speaker 1: it's cowardly. This is unbelievably every pundit should before to
Speaker 1: write a novel like I want to know what's in
Speaker 1: your soul. I want to know what's in there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I've read one and it's bad. I run for president.
Speaker 1: I will publish my bad novel. Just like spooky stories
Speaker 1: and animalphous parodies, Cody, it's not fair to call them
Speaker 1: animorphs parodies. They are animorphus erotic fiction, and I think
Speaker 1: you know what I will say, erotic literature. I don't wait,
Speaker 1: you've read it and I haven't. Thank you so much,
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for saying it is. My book
Speaker 1: is going to be just for kids, for kids about
Speaker 1: being It's going to be a girl in her imaginary
Speaker 1: friend Donkey. That's a good size. That's a good idea
Speaker 1: for a book less thirsty than Cody's book, which is
Speaker 1: drier than the Sahara. It's desperate. But he was thirty
Speaker 1: seven minutes late. We can we can rise him a
Speaker 1: little one note, Cody, Uh, there's actually no such thing
Speaker 1: as a funk panther. Prove it. I dare you to
Speaker 1: prove that. Somehow, I think there's a fun panther in
Speaker 1: this book. Yeah, several couple of type in panther. Let's
Speaker 1: see how many time? Um, I wonder if the word
Speaker 1: funk disappear in this at all, I bet not. I
Speaker 1: bet he. Oh my gosh, no, nineteen matches. He is
Speaker 1: Brent asterisk bred badass, is a military loose cannon off.
Speaker 1: He doesn't give a fun Oh boy, fuck you, motherfucker.
Speaker 1: Get the funk out of my hood to get him
Speaker 1: in the funk off my border. Fuck these animals, That's
Speaker 1: what I was looking for. Unless he's actually talking about
Speaker 1: fucking animals, and I'm going to pop right over there
Speaker 1: and see if it's Oh, the Taliban had used the
Speaker 1: hangar as an execution post. There was a line of
Speaker 1: bodies lying on the floor, and many of them wearing
Speaker 1: American uniforms. Those bodies have been mutilated obscenely. They done
Speaker 1: it slowly, that they'd enjoyed themselves. Animals, he said softly,
Speaker 1: fuck these animals. Okay, so not actually fucking animals. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's cool. I was gonna comment on the poorly written
Speaker 1: aspects of it. Is badly written. All. Yeah, more about
Speaker 1: the president. Okay, FDR was worshiped not because of World
Speaker 1: War two but because of social security. Wait, who's speaking
Speaker 1: right now? The president? This is just a rant. Bins
Speaker 1: going on it again. About the president who can't afford
Speaker 1: something that we haven't been told what it is yet.
Speaker 1: I love this is just like one of his town
Speaker 1: hall dot com like essays that he's like, they're not
Speaker 1: going to publish this, I'll put it in my book.
Speaker 1: Oh my god. So Prescott spent he spent on green technologies,
Speaker 1: on education programs, on food stamps, and highways. It's fucking highway.
Speaker 1: He's going to use this so the pores can drive
Speaker 1: to work the pavos. I I love that. So far.
Speaker 1: The message of the first page of the President Prescott
Speaker 1: chapter is that he's a coward for spending money on highway?
Speaker 1: Is it not Afghanistan? Were you scared of the guns?
Speaker 1: I am, Why don't you invest in human beings? Lies? Unbelievable, unbelievable.
Speaker 1: So yeah, this obviously spending money on Americans rather than
Speaker 1: Afghanistan destroys the economy. He's making a great point. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's making a very important point. Um and yeah. And
Speaker 1: so President Prescott starts to doubt whether or not he's
Speaker 1: going to win a second term, and then a miracle.
Speaker 1: In the middle of the night, Prescott woke up with
Speaker 1: a phrase ringing in his brain over and over. It
Speaker 1: was as though a higher power had placed them in
Speaker 1: his mind. He grabbed a pin from his bedside drawer
Speaker 1: and wrote it down, work freedom, the work freedom program.
Speaker 1: That's how God's or yesterday. Yeah, he woke up with
Speaker 1: the melody in his head and he had to write
Speaker 1: it down. So he kept going to all his friends
Speaker 1: and me like, does this is this anything? Okay? Wait?
Speaker 1: What this is? Like a really gross Ben thinks he's
Speaker 1: being smart, but this is a Holocaust reference that he's making.
Speaker 1: He's comparing social welfare programs to the Holocaust. Let me
Speaker 1: let me read you this paragraph. Everyone recognized the value
Speaker 1: of freedom, but what did that mean other than the
Speaker 1: right to a job? Freedom and nothing? If you couldn't
Speaker 1: put bread in your children's mouths at night? And America
Speaker 1: was a country of workers. Freedom was work, and work
Speaker 1: was freedom. Work freedom, simple, easy, repeatable, genius. What was
Speaker 1: stamped on the gates of Auschwitz and a number of
Speaker 1: other death camps are bite mocked. Free work brings freedom.
Speaker 1: That's literally what he is literally compared jobs program. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm fucking believable. Yeah, it's believable. It's believable that you
Speaker 1: won't who won't you know who won't make ghoulish holocaust
Speaker 1: comparisons to score a cheap political point against a fake president,
Speaker 1: Jordan Peter And wait, never mind, Hine Rand, no ship
Speaker 1: uh would be products and services, Katie. I can't believe
Speaker 1: that was right. That was a real nailed it. You
Speaker 1: nailed it. These products and services will in fact bring
Speaker 1: freedom to view work freedom, the work freedom products that
Speaker 1: advertise on this show. We're back, gang. It's time for
Speaker 1: me to admit something now forty or seven minutes into this,
Speaker 1: which is that um, when we when we decided we're
Speaker 1: going to do another one of these, I really agonized
Speaker 1: over which book to choose, and I really frustrated Sophie
Speaker 1: by going back and forth. We had a number of
Speaker 1: contenders for this, and I was worried that the Ben
Speaker 1: Shapira book wouldn't be a good idea because I was like,
Speaker 1: it's probably just like a really lame thriller like he
Speaker 1: wrote like the like he had like a script for
Speaker 1: a generic action movie and he wrote it, and we're
Speaker 1: just gonna be like reading through turgid prose about shooting
Speaker 1: people and it's just going to be very boring. I
Speaker 1: would have to be like twenty minutes and be like, Okay, guys,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, we gotta like revamp and figure out something else.
Speaker 1: I've learned so much about it. I believe that this
Speaker 1: was a script he pitched around and then, and I
Speaker 1: am certain that in his head his dream was that, like,
Speaker 1: I'm going to pitch this script and myself as a screenwriter.
Speaker 1: But once they meet me, they'll be like, the only
Speaker 1: person who can play play Brett's like John Wayne was
Speaker 1: short and built the sets around him. You got to
Speaker 1: change it. So Brett's actually a short, obnoxious guy. It's
Speaker 1: actually better and you're short on camera. It's better for
Speaker 1: lighting purposes. Man. Then we love the script, but the
Speaker 1: protagonist needs to be more unpleasant to listen to. All Right,
Speaker 1: give us some more all right, I we only have time.
Speaker 1: We we we will not get through enough of this.
Speaker 1: You know what, Robert, that's fine. You know, I think
Speaker 1: it's disgusting. I think it's I think it's embarrassing that
Speaker 1: we haven't gotten through this whole thing anything. That's fine,
Speaker 1: But we gotta do like a ten part series. So
Speaker 1: we finished it, Okay, So what should we what should
Speaker 1: we what should we go through next? I feel like
Speaker 1: going through chapter chapter, We're just gonna get bogged down.
Speaker 1: Is there anything you want me to search for? Try
Speaker 1: to We'll have a question. So when when he ran
Speaker 1: into that future prisoner? Um, and he didn't say the
Speaker 1: N word, but he thought the N word? Yeah? Was
Speaker 1: it typed out? Was the word type? Oh? Yeah? Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: So I would say search for the other instances. I
Speaker 1: also wouldn't mind hearing about this. What was the woman character?
Speaker 1: What was her description? What did she do? Um? Oh,
Speaker 1: do you mean the militia leader? Yeah? Well I know
Speaker 1: that her first chapter starts with her baking cookies for
Speaker 1: a swat team that's coming after her. Yes, no, I
Speaker 1: mean mind checking that Outum, all right, are you absolutely
Speaker 1: if there? I will lie about a lot of things
Speaker 1: to Cody, the coronavirus, for example, Yeah, but I will
Speaker 1: never lie about Ben Shapiro's pros Sola Dad Central Valley, California.
Speaker 1: The swat team didn't expect it the first time she
Speaker 1: brought them cookies. Nobody brings the swat team cookies, but
Speaker 1: Sola Dad Ramirez Dyes, well, Solad Dead Ramirez knew the
Speaker 1: value of good press, and she baked mean chocolate chip cookies. No,
Speaker 1: oatmeal raising here, she said, good naturedly, handing out the
Speaker 1: meltingly hot treats to them in wearing full military here
Speaker 1: and carrying M force set to burst number one. Ben,
Speaker 1: does he mean they were about to come? No? Um,
Speaker 1: So military grade M fours and similar weapons based off
Speaker 1: the A R platform UM have a burst fire mode
Speaker 1: which does a three round burst in in addition to
Speaker 1: semi automatic. No one would use it in that situation
Speaker 1: if you are a semi automatic is primarily for killing,
Speaker 1: like for actually trying to take aim shots. So if
Speaker 1: you are entering a building in the thought that you
Speaker 1: might have a gunfight, you're not going to have your
Speaker 1: rifles set on berts. Sorry, it's just very Yeah. Also, um,
Speaker 1: if just this is nitpicking, meltingly hot, something is melting
Speaker 1: we as we the reader who assume that they're hot.
Speaker 1: You don't need to me. Yeah, it's very awkward. Um,
Speaker 1: they all eat the cookies, which I feel like it's
Speaker 1: a bad call for a swat team entering a hostile
Speaker 1: You got to take the food the person you're rating.
Speaker 1: Um is this Wait? So okay, so this woman, um
Speaker 1: is the cookie maker? Because also there's the other woman
Speaker 1: right there was like his wife that a kid. Yeah,
Speaker 1: she's unconsequential, right, So that that's what like, there's nothing
Speaker 1: else about So she's a right wing militia leader, I
Speaker 1: am going to guests, But she also knows her gender
Speaker 1: role and how knows her way around a kitchen. Yeah,
Speaker 1: meltingly hot cookies. It seems like she's a ranch owner.
Speaker 1: And there's the e p A ruled that there's a
Speaker 1: type of rare fish um that was in danger from
Speaker 1: water over use in the river and they were stopping
Speaker 1: her from from doing her important farm work. Um, and
Speaker 1: we're we're going to confiscate her property if she didn't
Speaker 1: start stop watering her plants. Um. So h that's a
Speaker 1: way to frame it, I think. So. I think it's
Speaker 1: a mix of that and like what happened with the
Speaker 1: Bondi's god, yep cool. But yeah, but she she does
Speaker 1: know how to bake, and that's important for a woman,
Speaker 1: she protested. She sued it didn't matter, according to the government,
Speaker 1: that her husband's father had bought the farm worked it
Speaker 1: up from nothing. It didn't matter that her husband had
Speaker 1: worked his heart out, almost literally on the farm, keeling
Speaker 1: over at the ripe old age of fifty two while
Speaker 1: grazing those damn cattle. It didn't matter that she had
Speaker 1: fifty some employees and their families depended on her. All
Speaker 1: that mattered was the smelt that damn fish. It's definitely
Speaker 1: the exactly yeah it is, it is, and it kills
Speaker 1: all her cows. So she Oh my god, there's even
Speaker 1: a reference to you guys ever done like a lot
Speaker 1: of driving up the Five from Los Angeles nurds. You
Speaker 1: know how they have all those like Congress made dust
Speaker 1: bowl Pelosi even there's even a direct reference to that.
Speaker 1: They're making her the character who put those signs up.
Speaker 1: You know what I've always wondered. I have to drive
Speaker 1: up there frequently because my family lives in the Bay Area,
Speaker 1: So I make that drive a lot, done a dozens
Speaker 1: of time, and I'm always wondering, who did this? Are
Speaker 1: there any ones that say, stopped by for my meltingly
Speaker 1: hot cookies? Nope? I wonder how solidad Ramirez feels about immigration.
Speaker 1: Oh boy, well, good news, Katie. She was a week
Speaker 1: away from filing I think for bankruptcy. Yeah, yeah, filing
Speaker 1: for bankruptcy when she received the letter. It came from
Speaker 1: one of her former employees. Emilio. He'd immigrated from Mexico
Speaker 1: decades before, across the border illegally. She'd paid him well,
Speaker 1: sponsored his citizenship, and brought his family over to join him.
Speaker 1: He's a valuable employee, she told her skeptical friends, and
Speaker 1: if you were living on that side of the border,
Speaker 1: wouldn't you jump it. He's not taking money from anybody
Speaker 1: except me, and I'm paying him for work. He was
Speaker 1: one of the last men to be laid off as
Speaker 1: the ranch died. She cried the night she told him
Speaker 1: the cash had run out. He thanked her, hugged her,
Speaker 1: and moved his family to Los Angeles. So he writes
Speaker 1: her a letter, Well, that's a good immigration story. I guess. Well,
Speaker 1: I feel like if you do a search for Emilio,
Speaker 1: oh good Christ. Oh no. He became almost almost so.
Speaker 1: He and his family had been forced to take a
Speaker 1: small apartment in East Los Angeles, and Emilio had gotten
Speaker 1: a job at a factory, a local one of those
Speaker 1: classic East factors, so their sun. Juan had been enrolled
Speaker 1: at the public high school that's where he'd been killed.
Speaker 1: One of his classmates apparently had tried to recruit him
Speaker 1: into a gang when he refused, several of the gang
Speaker 1: members found him in the bathroom. They started punching him. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they beat him to death for not joining a gang. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they did. Uh, Football, gangs and factories. It's just so
Speaker 1: he's so simple, he's such a simple boy. So she
Speaker 1: she refuses to pay her tax bill and instead sends
Speaker 1: the money over to Emilio so we can bury his
Speaker 1: his his boy, um who didn't said no to gangs. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then that's why the swat team comes after her
Speaker 1: because she's not paying her taxes because she had to
Speaker 1: help Emilio bury his gang killed boy. And that's what
Speaker 1: starts the standoff. Let's stand him for the Bundy standoff
Speaker 1: that happened when the bundees refused to actually pay mandatory
Speaker 1: grazing fees that were very clear and very fair for
Speaker 1: more than a decade until finally there was an action
Speaker 1: that was then stopped because the government got scared because
Speaker 1: we don't, or at least didn't live in a Yeah,
Speaker 1: this is a rich tapestry. There's a lot that brings
Speaker 1: up really important moral questions and we shouldn't mock it. No, No,
Speaker 1: it's good, you're right, it's good. I don't mean anything.
Speaker 1: I just said, Oh, he talks about there's a character
Speaker 1: named Levon. There is he talks about. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: Levon not a white character. Really, No, Detroit, Michigan is
Speaker 1: where Van and the first sentence of Levan's chapter is
Speaker 1: Detroit was a ship hole. But it was his ship hole.
Speaker 1: I hate this so much. That's the way Levan Williams
Speaker 1: had thought of it. He'd grown up in this ship
Speaker 1: hole right near eight mile Road along stretch. It is horrible.
Speaker 1: This is horrible. Oh my god, I will not have
Speaker 1: Detroit and like, just write a book you like saw
Speaker 1: eight Mile with Eminem and it takes place your dorm
Speaker 1: room when you were in law school. That's the world,
Speaker 1: you know. Oh my god, he must right, he must
Speaker 1: talk about rap baddles. Let's I'm just gonna see. Oh
Speaker 1: my god, there's no Let's see if there's hip hop
Speaker 1: or like I'm trying to think of like, it's not
Speaker 1: his vernacular, the words like man, why are you doing that?
Speaker 1: What are you? Yeah? Yeah, yeah it does. It doesn't
Speaker 1: look like we have that problem. Thank God for small miracles, Yeah,
Speaker 1: thank God for small miracles. Well, guys, I don't know
Speaker 1: how much more I mean we could, we could, we could,
Speaker 1: we don't seme for hours, um, but we can't because
Speaker 1: time is Yes, Cody, could you real quick just search
Speaker 1: for the word Marxism. Oh my god, of course, thank you,
Speaker 1: of course, let's just see marks. Yeah yeah, Marxism. Oh no,
Speaker 1: only once where um the president's plan to uh, actually,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna read you with the President's plan because this
Speaker 1: is what Ben essentially calls Marxism and socialism. This is
Speaker 1: the president speaking, the evil president who doesn't want us
Speaker 1: to be in unemployment. I premise you right now that
Speaker 1: you will not pay one additional dollar in Texas for
Speaker 1: this program. You will not lose your job, and if
Speaker 1: your employer should selfishly fire you, we're establishing a business
Speaker 1: trust to which our businesses will contribute, which will pay
Speaker 1: your salary during rainy days. Businesses may try to scare you,
Speaker 1: but people are always frightened of what they do not understand.
Speaker 1: Selfishness must not be allowed to trump the vital liberties
Speaker 1: of the American people. And this action will not contribute
Speaker 1: to our national debt. It will contribute to our collective wealth.
Speaker 1: With the entire American population working, produce and creating, not
Speaker 1: just eight percent or ninety percent or even nine. We
Speaker 1: will boost our gross domestic product exponentially. Is like, what
Speaker 1: if there was a social safety net? Horrible? Damn you
Speaker 1: amazing one? Last one? Yep, do a search for um
Speaker 1: I Q Oh boy, oh Cody, maybe just a shot
Speaker 1: in the darkness. Nope, nope, no, no, okay, that's for
Speaker 1: his other book. This has been not that illuminating. I
Speaker 1: mean it has been eliminating, but only in affirming the
Speaker 1: things that we know. Um, just for a number for numbers,
Speaker 1: sick patriot? Oh boy, yeah, let's see that only two? Yeah?
Speaker 1: What ben you loser? Yeah, Carolin America America, unbelievable. I'm
Speaker 1: so glad you picked this book. I am too. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's so glad. I am so glad that Sophie finally
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