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Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning.

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Speaker 2: The Breakfast Club Morning, everybody in stej n V, Jess, Hilarrys, Charlamagne,

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Speaker 2: the gud We are the Breakfast Club, just as on

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Speaker 2: maternity leave. So Laura Ross is filling in. We also

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Speaker 2: have our sister Angela Rye with us this.

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Speaker 3: Morning, the host of the Native Lamb podcast.

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Speaker 2: That's right, and we got a special guest in the building.

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Speaker 2: He's from Brooklyn, the brother Byron Donald's.

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Speaker 3: Also with the fam.

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Speaker 1: You too, HBCU there you Gooklyn, Yeah, Crownheightst. Brooklyn.

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Speaker 2: Can't you tell us the meeting way speaks. I'm like,

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Speaker 2: you don't sound like nothing but.

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Speaker 1: The New Yorker Park Place, Choring, Schenectady.

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Speaker 2: Man, the way he walked in, I was like, new Yorker,

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Speaker 2: we'll welcome brother.

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Speaker 4: So how'd you become a well, I guess because you

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Speaker 4: know in New York is considered such a liberal place.

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Speaker 3: How did you become a conservative?

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Speaker 1: Oh man? Politics came late from me in life. I

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Speaker 1: started as a Democrat, right, Yeah, it was a registered Democrat.

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Speaker 1: Didn't really care about politics. I think a lot of

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Speaker 1: whatever family or friends are, not really thinking about it.

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Speaker 1: My career was financed, so I graduated with a your

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Speaker 1: worked in banking, worked in insurance, and then do a

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Speaker 1: I started doing the research because I had worked in

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Speaker 5: Congress, you just mentioned that you attended FAMU but graduated

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Speaker 5: from Florida State. We know that Donald Trump committed two

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Speaker 5: hundred and fifty five million dollars annually to HBCUs, while

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Speaker 1: Well, look, I mean thank you for the question. I

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Speaker 1: Of the reason why it is a problem is because

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Speaker 1: Is way better. But anyway, you know, it's all right,

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Speaker 1: all degrees are the same. I believe, personally, an accounting degree,

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Speaker 2: Let me ask you a question, right, yeah, So I

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Speaker 2: want to go back a little bit. So you you

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Speaker 2: were arrested before for marijuana. Yeah, you're arrested for bank fraud.

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Speaker 2: You're also of Caribbean descent Jamaican. When you hear Donald

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Speaker 1: If you do, why, well, a couple of things.

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Speaker 2: Given a second chance, but like we should have like

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Speaker 1: If you do well? I think you also got to

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Speaker 1: I think second changes are important in society. I think

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Speaker 2: But what I also where you couldn't escape around it.

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Speaker 1: Everywhere you couldn't escape it. But what I would also

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Speaker 1: When he bought Mara a Lago, he desegregated Maro Lago.

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Speaker 1: He did try to reform or some of the criminal

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Speaker 4: I acknowledge the first step back when you said he

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Speaker 4: undid the ninety four.

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Speaker 1: Crime bill, what do you mean? What I mean is

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Speaker 5: Uh sorry, just on the same point. You talked about

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Speaker 5: taking the man in his totality. So one of those

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Speaker 5: things in his totality is what happened on January sixth,

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Speaker 5: which is your first term in Congress. Yeah, do you

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Speaker 5: think he should be held accountable? Donald Trump should be

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Speaker 5: held accountable for his role in the January sixth insurrection?

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean, listen, First of all, I will tell

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Speaker 1: not gonna put that on him. I'm not gonna go

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna run around and blame Bernie Sanders for

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Speaker 1: the fact that Steve's salicice was shot. Because if you

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Speaker 1: gonna come back to January sixth, Yeah, please do now. Well,

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Speaker 1: of course, the shooter that almost killed Steve Scalise, the

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Speaker 1: Republican leader. He said vehemently that the reason why he

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Speaker 1: January sixth. The shooter is the one that perpetrated that crime.

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna put that on Bernie Sanders, who he

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Speaker 1: Let me translate. Donald Trump authorized ten thousand National Guard troops.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm just trying to figure out what is qualified immunity.

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Speaker 5: We're talking about people getting violent. Yeah, hurt or killed, rushed.

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Speaker 1: And when you're when you violate a constitutional right, qualified

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Speaker 5: It's not true.

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Speaker 4: Okay, The qualified immunity is a legal doctrine that protect

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Speaker 1: That's exactly what I'm saying. And what is a violation

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Speaker 5: But here's the main thing, because we can actually go

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Speaker 1: True or false, Well, let's let's expand that a couple

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Speaker 5: If you ever experienced racism in this country, Congressman, yeah,

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Speaker 1: the national security policies, What are the border security policies

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Speaker 1: that are gonna make our country thrive? So, whether you black, Hispanic,

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Speaker 1: or white, you could thrive. And so I think it's so.

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Speaker 5: Would you have to say that if it wasn't a

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Speaker 5: racist country, whether you're black, white, or Hispanic, you could thrive. No, No,

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Speaker 5: are we thriving is members, and I would.

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Speaker 1: Argue we're not. I would argue, we're not really thriving

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Speaker 1: right now. This inflation, which by the way, was brought

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Speaker 1: to us by Kamala Harris, it has really slowed down

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Speaker 1: people from being able to excel by Kamala Yes, Oh, Charlemagne,

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Speaker 1: President Charlemagne listen man. When Joe Biden wanted to do

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Speaker 1: his American Rescue Plan, Kamala Harris was a tie break

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Speaker 1: and vote in the United States Senate. She broke the

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Speaker 1: tide and started this inflation that has hurt so many

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Speaker 1: people in our country. Everybody listening to your show, who's

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Speaker 1: it's not true.

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Speaker 5: You want to go outside, Okay, let's go. That's fine.

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Speaker 3: I have no I'm gonna give it. I'm gonna give it.

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Speaker 1: Because because Angel.

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Speaker 5: For every infrastructure project in your community, just highlight Joe

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Speaker 5: Biden and Kamala Harris and the Congress that voted for

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Speaker 5: the American Rescue Plan, and that's what should be had.

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Speaker 1: Larry Summers wrote a op ed back in twenty twenty one.

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Speaker 1: Larry Larry Summers was a Treasury Secretary for Bill Clan.

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Speaker 1: He was an economic advisor to a Barack Obama. He

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Speaker 1: said that the American Rescue Plan that Joe Biden wanted

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Speaker 1: that Kamala Harris was a tiebreaking vote in the United

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Speaker 1: States Senate would create a massive inflation that we have

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Speaker 1: not seen in a generation. Well, guess what, Larry Summers

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Speaker 1: was correct? You know who also was correct? Angela? I

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Speaker 1: was because I was in the Budget committee when they

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Speaker 1: brought the bill, and I said in that committee it's

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Speaker 1: gonna cause massive inflation. That's what happened. So the problem

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Speaker 1: we have in our economy today is that prices have

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Speaker 1: gone up massively, wages adjusted for inflation is down. People's

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Speaker 1: pocketbooks are hurting. But we have a presidential election of

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Speaker 1: forty days. So and I'm gonna ask Envy this question. Mvy,

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Speaker 1: you do how you do? You're in the housing business

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Speaker 1: as well. I know because I'm watching your to the show. No,

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Speaker 1: I'm just asking him a question. Chill Angela. So you know,

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Speaker 1: and I listened to the show. I know you do

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Speaker 1: a lot of business in housing. Would you hire somebody

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Speaker 1: that broke up stuff in one of your houses to

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Speaker 1: fix the other houses? Exactly? She broke the economy. That's

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Speaker 1: not me.

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Speaker 5: Because I'm bringing facts.

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Speaker 1: So now I'm bringing facts. You don't want to do

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Speaker 1: it no more. Come on now, Angela, that's not right.

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Speaker 1: I'm bringing fact. I thought we were going to have

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Speaker 1: a fact based conversation. I want to have a fact

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Speaker 1: based conversation.

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Speaker 5: You wanted to bring up votes, and so let's talk

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Speaker 5: about votes. You have a ninety six percent voting record

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Speaker 5: with Heritage Action, but we could talk about for those

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Speaker 5: who are listening. Heritage Action is a part of the

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Speaker 5: Heritage Foundation, which is the architect of Project twenty twenty five,

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Speaker 5: which we can talk about more later. You voted no

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Speaker 5: on HR eighty four zero four, which provide federal recognition

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Speaker 5: and protection to interracial couples, and that actually is a

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Speaker 5: law that would benefit you, Congressman, given your your marriage.

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Speaker 5: You voted no. HR six s eight on requiring the

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Speaker 5: Bureau of Prisons to provide incarcerated women with certain pregnancy

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Speaker 5: related care including sexually transmitted infectious testing, contraception, appropriate housing, betting, clothing,

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Speaker 5: access to hydration and restrooms, prenatal vitamins, and other appropriate

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Speaker 5: conditions of confinement, Screening and care for high risk pregnancy,

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Speaker 5: substance use, and mental health support including postpartum depression and

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Speaker 5: prenatal education. The list goes on, and it would limit

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Speaker 5: the use of solitary confinement for pregnant women. You voted

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Speaker 5: no twice on the John Lewis Voting Rights Act, which

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Speaker 5: would have restored the protections originally enshrined in the Voting

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Speaker 5: Rights Act of nineteen sixty five, which I've heard you teut.

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Speaker 5: You also voted no on Hr thirty two to thirty three,

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Speaker 5: which established the Bipartisan Commission to Investigate the terrace and

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Speaker 5: Insurrectionist attack on January sixth at the Capitol. So you

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Speaker 5: want to talk about voting, sure, Please explain why you

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Speaker 5: would vote so clearly against the interests of people who

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Speaker 5: look just like you and I.

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Speaker 1: So the first two bills you talk about, I actually

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Speaker 1: have to go back and see it, because a lot

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Speaker 1: of problems with some of these bills are all of

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Speaker 1: the other things that get put into them, not just

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Speaker 1: the things that you're talking about. Specific to the John

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Speaker 1: Lewis Voting Rights Act, the reason why I did not

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Speaker 1: vote for that bill is because that bill would reinstitute

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Speaker 1: what's called preclearance. Right now, hold on, man, Angela, you

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Speaker 1: don't let me talk.

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Speaker 5: Here we go, here we go, Okay, you say, yes.

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Speaker 1: Okay, here we go, Yah okay. Preclearance right now under

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Speaker 1: federal law really by Supreme Court President is no longer

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Speaker 1: the law of the land. The reason why that is

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Speaker 1: is because there's not been over the last thirty years

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Speaker 1: in elections. There's not been cases or there's not been

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Speaker 1: any specific cases around why you need preclearance in the

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Speaker 1: first place, like was needed back in nineteen sixty five,

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Speaker 1: where you did have counties that were systematically discriminating against

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Speaker 1: black people, so it could not prove the plaintiffs could

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Speaker 1: not prove at any point in the last thirty years

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Speaker 1: where you still need a preclearance. I live in a

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Speaker 1: pre Clarence county. Callyer County, Florida is a pre Clarence County.

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Speaker 1: I've lived in Collyer County for twenty three years now,

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Speaker 1: twenty three years. There's never been an issue with me

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Speaker 1: casting a vote in Kye County, Florida at any time

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Speaker 1: over the last twenty three years. And that's before I

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Speaker 1: became an elected official. That's when I showed up down

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Speaker 1: there working the cracker barrel, being a waiter and just

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Speaker 1: figuring out how to make ends meet, and I could

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Speaker 1: still cast my ballot, So every other protection under the

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Speaker 1: Civil Rights Act of nineteen sixty five is still law today.

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Speaker 1: What my Democratic colleagues want is they want national preclearance

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Speaker 1: so that if any jurisdiction, whether if they were a

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Speaker 1: historically discriminatory jurisdiction or not, if they made a change

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Speaker 1: in their procedure like reshifting a precinct, deciding to shrink

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Speaker 1: or expand precincts, that would actually have to go to

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Speaker 1: the Civil Rights Division of the Justice Department for approval

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Speaker 1: before they can make those changes. Now, why is that

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Speaker 1: not important? Today? More people are voting by mail, So

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Speaker 1: you have a situation where local election jurisdictions are shrinking

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Speaker 1: precincts or resizing precincts, are putting two pricincts together because

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Speaker 1: they don't have the volume of people going to cast

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Speaker 1: ballants in those precincts. You're now telling me that you

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Speaker 1: have to now go to the Civil Rights Division of

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Speaker 1: the Justice Department to get approval to put two voting

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Speaker 1: precincts together. That's why the John Lewis Acts, And all

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Speaker 1: due respect to John Lewis, great man, phenomenal career, but

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Speaker 1: that's why that bill of putting preclearance in nationally, even

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Speaker 1: in jurisdictions where there were no historical discrimination of black people,

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Speaker 1: is not necessary legislation.

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Speaker 5: And this is on the other side of seven hundred

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Speaker 5: and forty seven thousand voters being purged in North Carolina.

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Speaker 5: This is on the other side. This preclearance provision was

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Speaker 5: struck in Shelby County versus Holder, which is a super

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Speaker 5: and has had a pass of being super discriminatory since

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Speaker 5: that one hundred laws have been put in place to

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Speaker 5: make voting rights more restrictive for people of color for

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Speaker 5: the last ten years. So what you're saying is.

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Speaker 1: So Actually it's very factual. And I remember when Georgia

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Speaker 1: changed their voting law. It was Joe Biden who was

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Speaker 1: down in Georgia talking about how this was not even

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Speaker 1: Jim Crow or whatever. I forget what he said, Jim Crow.

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Speaker 5: Or whatever Joe want to talk about Jim, but this.

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Speaker 1: Is what Joe Biden said, hold on, let's finish, let

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Speaker 1: me finish now. So this is what Joe Biden said

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Speaker 1: back in twenty twenty two, I think is what he said.

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Speaker 1: What happened with Georgia's new voting law that I would

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Speaker 1: assume I'm going to assume Angeler, I don't know for sure.

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Speaker 1: I haven't seen what you said that I would assume

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Speaker 1: you would say is restrictive of black people. In Georgia.

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Speaker 1: In twenty twenty two, there was record turnout of black

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Speaker 1: voters in the state of Georgia. Record turnout, I'm assuming

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Speaker 1: in twenty twenty four, because those are the trends in

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Speaker 1: the state of Georgia, you're gonna have record turnout of

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Speaker 1: black voters in twenty twenty four. So you had Joe

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Speaker 1: Biden use a terrible part of our past to try

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Speaker 1: to move people emotionally in a negative response to what

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Speaker 1: Georgia was doing. What we have seen in the outcome

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Speaker 1: is that Georgia has actually had more voting voting inclusion

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Speaker 1: of people of color and of black people in that state.

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Speaker 3: Georgia laws make voter intimidation easier.

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Speaker 5: So yeah, I think the most important thing here, Byron,

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Speaker 5: that I think we're overwhelmingly here you say, is as

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Speaker 5: a black man in Florida, your argument is that it's

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Speaker 5: easier to vote today than it was in twenty thirteen,

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Speaker 5: when the Supreme Court eviscerated the Voting Rights Act of

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Speaker 5: nineteen sixty five. Which again i've heard you teut. Your

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Speaker 5: argument is that states don't need preclearance, that counties don't

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Speaker 5: need preclearance, that there's been no discriminatory impact since Shelby

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Speaker 5: counter versus Holder, and that's why they should get rid

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Speaker 5: of it. You brought up Jim Crow, and I'm glad

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Speaker 5: you did, because you also have had something to say

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Speaker 5: about Jim Crow. And I know that this is, for

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Speaker 5: whatever reason, has been unnecessarily tense, but I would love

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Speaker 5: to invite you to clarify your remarks around Jim Crow

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Speaker 5: so that that can you can at least get rid

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Speaker 5: of that part of misinformation. It's clear that you do

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Speaker 5: stand opposed to the Voting Rights Act, though in.

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Speaker 1: Twenty twenty four, now we were talking, we were in Philadelphia,

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Speaker 1: we were talking to just the rise of black families

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Speaker 1: again and which is actually a great thing in our country,

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Speaker 1: and really comparing that to what was happening under that

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Speaker 1: time period, the Jim Crow era, where your marriage rates

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Speaker 1: in the black family were very high. After that era

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Speaker 1: with Lyndon Johnson's Great Society, in part, that is the

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Speaker 1: reason for the decrease in the marriage rate in black families.

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Speaker 1: And if you're going to have a strong In order

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Speaker 1: to have strong black families, obviously you need to father

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Speaker 1: in the home. You're starting to see that again in America.

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Speaker 1: That's a great thing because when fathers are at home

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Speaker 1: helping to raise their kids and nurture their kids, it

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Speaker 1: puts their kids in a better position to be able

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Speaker 1: to be successful going forward. Like my dad wasn't there

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Speaker 1: when I grew up. It was really hard from my mom.

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Speaker 1: You know, my mom still lives in Brooklyn. You know,

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Speaker 1: she still lives here today. So I stand on her

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Speaker 1: shoulders because she did so many things for me. She

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Speaker 1: was mom. To quote her, she was mom and dad

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Speaker 1: and she did it all. But were no, no, no.

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Speaker 1: But we also got to acknowledge that your kids standing

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Speaker 1: on your shoulders is what propels them to be successful.

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Speaker 1: You know, like my sons are in position in part

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Speaker 1: because my success, my wife's success, but then also because

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Speaker 1: you had two parents in there, living together, growing together,

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Speaker 1: thriving together.

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Speaker 2: Black people, let's listening, you know, because I did homework

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Speaker 2: and I like to see sometimes what black people feel

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Speaker 2: about congressmen, and a lot of black people who I

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Speaker 2: look at online and look at the comments, don't feel

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Speaker 2: like you're for them, whether it's, uh, you don't feel

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Speaker 2: like this is a racist country, you.

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Speaker 4: Don't let me ask the question though, I'm sorry, was

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Speaker 4: the question clarified.

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Speaker 1: I was just I was just saying about Yeah, I'm sorry,

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Speaker 1: go ahead, Angel, I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

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Speaker 4: I guess what you should ask me. For those who

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Speaker 4: criticized those comments, what did they get wrong?

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Speaker 1: I think what they got wrong is they think that

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Speaker 1: I was trying to say that Jim Crow was this

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Speaker 1: great era for black people. That's crazy. I would never

651
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Speaker 1: say that, never ever say that matter.

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Speaker 4: I took from it, not just because of the way

653
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Speaker 4: the narrative was.

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Speaker 3: That's what I took.

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Speaker 1: And I think what happened, what the narrative happened was

656
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Speaker 1: in that room, it was all black people. A handful

657
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Speaker 1: of reporters, the Philadelphia Inquirer wrote the story. The Philadelphia

658
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Speaker 1: Inquirer actually wrote it accurately. What happened was is that

659
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Speaker 1: when it was the Biden campaign, the Biden campaign saw

660
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Speaker 1: the story and they came out with this, uh, this

661
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Speaker 1: tweet that made it seem like I was memorializing Jim Crow.

662
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Speaker 1: That's crazy. So then King Jeffreys, the Democratic leader, he

663
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Speaker 1: went to the floor gave a speech about it, and

664
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Speaker 1: before you know what, this thing is going worldwide. So

665
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Speaker 1: then I found myself in this position like wait, hold up.

666
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Speaker 1: My comms guys telling me, Hey, they're trying to hit

667
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Speaker 1: you on your comments in Philadelphia. I'm like, over what

668
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Speaker 1: I was talking about black families and the growth of

669
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Speaker 1: black families going forward in America and that's a good thing.

670
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Speaker 1: They said, No, they're saying you're memorializing Jim Crow. I

671
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Speaker 1: was like, man, that's awa. I was just like, why

672
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Speaker 1: can't say fuck Jim Crowdon? I mean, easy, fuck Jim Crow.

673
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Speaker 1: Nobody wants that. Just the problem though, But what happens

674
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Speaker 1: in politics is people will see a statement and then

675
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Speaker 1: they want to emotionalize it. They want to sensationalize it

676
00:32:56,920 --> 00:32:59,040
Speaker 1: to diminish your point of view and what you stand for,

677
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Speaker 1: what you believe, Like, I believe in economic growth for everybody.

678
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Speaker 1: I grew up. I was in the banking That was

679
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Speaker 1: banking background is my career. So when I hear MV

680
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Speaker 1: talk sometimes about access to capital, I know exactly what

681
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Speaker 1: he's talking about because current financial regulatory policy in Capitol

682
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Speaker 1: Hill has only made the large banks bigger. They've mass

683
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Speaker 1: massively decreased community banking in America. Well, if you're a

684
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Speaker 1: young entrepreneur, young black entrepreneur, where you're going to go

685
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Speaker 1: to get capital from city, from Wells Fargo, from Chase,

686
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Speaker 1: or from the community bank down the street, Well, that

687
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:34,320
Speaker 1: community bank is in your community. We have less community

688
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Speaker 1: banking today in the United States than we had in

689
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Speaker 1: two thousand and nine. The only difference financial regulatory policy. Now,

690
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Speaker 1: if I want to bring politics into it, that policy

691
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Speaker 1: was Dodd Frank which was written by Congressional Democrats. They

692
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Speaker 1: passed it unanimously by themselves, and then President Barack Obama

693
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Speaker 1: signed it into law. The impacts of that regulatory policy

694
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Speaker 1: has seen a decrease in community banking in the United States.

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Speaker 1: That is the facts. And what that also does. It

696
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Speaker 1: helps to diminish access to capital for people who look

697
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Speaker 1: like us, who don't have the credit background, they don't

698
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Speaker 1: have the family backgrounds, they don't have the historical backgrounds

699
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Speaker 1: to get that capital and to rise and succeed. I

700
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Speaker 1: want to change all that. That's what I believe.

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Speaker 3: What you say, you're saying black people don't like I

702
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Speaker 3: was going to say, don't.

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Speaker 6: You do you feel like you get it? Honest though

704
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Speaker 6: with people not liking you because of all the other stuff.

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Speaker 6: Sometimes that you too when you stand on and I

706
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Speaker 6: just want to read this quote to make sure this

707
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Speaker 6: is what you said, because you're saying that they misquoted

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Speaker 6: you or they took things. So you said, during Jim Crow,

709
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Speaker 6: more black people were not just conservative because black people

710
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Speaker 6: are Black people always have always been conservative minded, but

711
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Speaker 6: more black people will voted conservatively.

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Speaker 5: Is that correct?

713
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Speaker 6: Yeah, that's what I said, right, But like during that

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Speaker 6: time the parties were a lot different though.

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Speaker 1: Right, not totally. I think that that's one of the

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Speaker 1: things I was.

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Speaker 3: Asking a question.

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Speaker 5: I know, to.

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Speaker 3: Question I answer to trying to answer question.

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Speaker 6: I want you to answer your question that you know

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Speaker 6: that I'm a person that can read, of course, Okay, so.

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Speaker 3: During that time, you know, just trut it to me.

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Speaker 6: I know, yeah, thank you. So during that time the

724
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Speaker 6: parties were different. So when you say something like this

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Speaker 6: and then people take what you say and put it

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Speaker 6: in a context as to where the parties were at

727
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Speaker 6: that time, you can explain to the people where the

728
00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:12,800
Speaker 6: parties were during Jim Crow and what the difference is

729
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Speaker 6: between now, and then you understand why people headlined it

730
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Speaker 6: and got upset the way that they did correct a

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Speaker 6: couple things.

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Speaker 1: Let's talk about the parties historically, yes, let's talk about

733
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Speaker 1: the Republican Party was a party of emancipation. It has

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Speaker 1: always been a party that for the freedom, for the

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Speaker 1: freeing of slaves, and for civil rights. If you go

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Speaker 1: back to the Civil Rights Acts, and it's not just

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Speaker 1: the sixty four Act, there were actually five other civil

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Speaker 1: rights acts before nineteen sixty four, massively overwhelmingly supported by

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Speaker 1: the Republican Party. It was Democrats that were holding up

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Speaker 1: those When the sixty four Act was going and before

741
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Speaker 1: it went into law, the Philipbuster in the United States

742
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Speaker 1: Senate was led by Democrat senators of the United States Senate.

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Speaker 1: All those Democratic senators that Philip Buster the nineteen sixty

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Speaker 1: four Civil Rights Act, they remained Democrat senators. They didn't

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Speaker 1: switch to become Republican senators. Robert Byrd was a lawyer

746
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Speaker 1: for the Klan. He was a Democrat senator. He was

747
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Speaker 1: the dean of the Democrat Senate until the day he died.

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Speaker 1: He didn't change parties. Now, I will acknowledge that Richard Nixon,

749
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Speaker 1: in response, in response to just political moves of that era,

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Speaker 1: he started going into the South to try and to

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Speaker 1: go find the conservative Democrat votes in the South, you

752
00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:31,400
Speaker 1: call them Dixocrats or whatever, to find conservative Democrat voters

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Speaker 1: in the South in order to be able to Frankly

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Speaker 1: win the presidential election when he was running during that era.

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Speaker 1: He did do that. Where I'm highly critical of the

756
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Speaker 1: Republican Party, my colleagues will tell you, is that the

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Speaker 1: Republican Party in the sixties really didn't even try to

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Speaker 1: get black votes, didn't try to court black voters, didn't

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Speaker 1: try to talk about black issues, didn't try to engage

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Speaker 1: black people. And so as I come along, my politics

761
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Speaker 1: are about policy, not about personalities. I believe in policies

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Speaker 1: that help people thrive in six seed. Where I tell

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Speaker 1: people today in the Republican Party is you have black

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Speaker 1: voters who are sitting back and saying, Okay, now, wait

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Speaker 1: a minute. I've heard these speeches before, I've heard these

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Speaker 1: talking points before, but nothing in my life is really changing.

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Speaker 1: If you're trying to go court black voters, you actually

768
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Speaker 1: have to go and engage black people. And so that's

769
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Speaker 1: why I go everywhere. I just don't do Fox News.

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Speaker 1: I think people kind of know that about me. I

771
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Speaker 1: just don't do. I go everywhere a while because I'm

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Speaker 1: trying to share my philosophies and my thoughts. I think

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Speaker 1: political parties over time, they do adjust. But what's really

774
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Speaker 1: happening today is that people are moving underneath the feet

775
00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:36,399
Speaker 1: of the political parties. I think that's a good thing

776
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Speaker 1: for the country.

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Speaker 5: So speaking and moving underneath the feet of the parties,

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Speaker 5: you want to talk about policy, and so I want

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Speaker 5: to just play quickly what you said about reparations.

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Speaker 7: Were going to and get out of kid. You know

781
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Speaker 7: what I'm saying. So I don't believe Auntie.

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Speaker 1: Oh wow, why do you play the rest of the clip?

783
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Speaker 3: Man?

784
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Speaker 1: I was on fire during that one.

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Speaker 5: Because Byron, I think it's important for people to get

786
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Speaker 5: your ya's and a's, just like you have to do

787
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Speaker 5: on the House floor. You have to take an up

788
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Speaker 5: or down vote on an issue. You took a down

789
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Speaker 5: vote on this and you haven't supported HR forty. So

790
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Speaker 5: if you want to talk about the complexities of reparations,

791
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Speaker 5: whether or not there should be a study in this country,

792
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Speaker 5: you again have said that this country is not racist,

793
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Speaker 5: and even though it's it has a dark pass, it

794
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Speaker 5: doesn't sound like you think it has a dark present.

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Speaker 5: You have not sponsored that bill. You haven't co sponsored

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Speaker 5: that bill? Why not?

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Speaker 1: Well, a couple of things. One, that's why I wish

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Speaker 1: you played the clip because I actually went to very

799
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Speaker 1: but I will, Uh, A couple of things, is all right,

800
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Speaker 1: how many people in the United States today are actually

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Speaker 1: descendants of slave owners? Forget descendants of slaves, let's hold

802
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Speaker 1: that to the side. Descendants of slave owners. You've had

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Speaker 1: massive immigration into the United States over the last one

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Speaker 1: hundred and fifty years. So now you're going to say

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Speaker 1: that people who immigrated to the United States who are

806
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Speaker 1: not descendants of slave owners were not descendants of that trade.

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Speaker 1: Now they're going to be responsible for paying that out

808
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Speaker 1: going forward. My mother's Jamaican, my father's Panamanian. You have

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Speaker 1: a lot of black people in this country who are

810
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Speaker 1: not descendants of the American slave trade. So I already

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Speaker 1: know off top there's a lot of black people in

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Speaker 1: America who aren't going to be able to get that

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Speaker 1: kind of benefit or get reparations.

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Speaker 4: Well, most people who are for reparations, they feel like

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Speaker 4: you should go to what they call foundational Black Americans anyway,

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Speaker 4: and I agree with that point.

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Speaker 1: I at that point but I'm just saying, I'm just

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Speaker 1: laying out these are the reasons for why I'm no.

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Speaker 1: So while I'm do.

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Speaker 5: Support reparations for what Leonard just deemed as quote foundational

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Speaker 5: black Americans.

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Speaker 1: No, no, no, I don't. But I want to explain that.

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Speaker 1: I want to explain that. And so that's why you

824
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Speaker 1: have a lot of people saying, Okay, well, then what

825
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Speaker 1: are we going to do? And so my view is

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Speaker 1: is that what you do going forward is this way.

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Speaker 1: You have to have wholesale changes in economic, medical policy,

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Speaker 1: et cetera, so that the ability to access various parts

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Speaker 1: of our economy and grow in our economy work for everybody,

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Speaker 1: including people in our country who are quote unquote found

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Speaker 1: foundationally black. Now let me translate to what's happened in California.

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Speaker 1: It's Yo state. In California, there was a push.

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Speaker 5: To have Washington state.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, but I heard earlier using California. So that's

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Speaker 1: why I'm saying. So there was a bill in California

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Speaker 1: for reparations. The California Assembly, which is massively Democrat, they

837
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Speaker 1: didn't move that bill. They could have moved that bill.

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Speaker 1: When they were asked why they weren't moving that bill.

839
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Speaker 1: They tucked tail and turn and turned a ran away.

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Speaker 1: They didn't even have that, They didn't even have the

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Speaker 1: guts to actually answer that question. So I'm here with y'all.

842
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Speaker 1: I'll tell you why. I'm gonna know. But you have

843
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Speaker 1: Democrats who will say therefore something, but when it comes

844
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Speaker 1: time to actually do it, they're not there for you.

845
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Speaker 1: They say, they run away, they don't answer the question,

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Speaker 1: or and to be blunt, like the current vice president

847
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Speaker 1: not answering a lot of questions. But she did say

848
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Speaker 1: that she's for reparations after she said she wasn't, So

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Speaker 1: which one is?

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Speaker 3: No, she knows that she wasn't. That's never all right,

851
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Speaker 3: that's fine, But she was here. She was here.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna let you have it. I'm not gonna I'm

853
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Speaker 1: not gonna challenge. I'm Almo Childing.

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Speaker 5: But I guess the question is, Congressman, you say that

855
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Speaker 5: you're not for reparations, then you go on to say

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Speaker 5: that there are a lot of elected officials. We know

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Speaker 5: that racism is a bipartisan problem, right, So on that,

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Speaker 5: do you know who was the father of affirmative action?

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Speaker 1: Now that's a good question. Actually I don't know.

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Speaker 5: They answer to that one, The answer is a Republican

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Speaker 5: by the name of doctor Arthur Fletcher, who worked you

862
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Speaker 5: brought up Richard Nixon earlier. He worked with Richard Nixon.

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Speaker 5: But I've noted that you are opposed to affirmative action again,

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Speaker 5: another policy that would democratize access to all of the

865
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Speaker 5: things that you've talked about today, including economic access for

866
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Speaker 5: black people.

867
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Speaker 3: So on that what do you want black people to have?

868
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Speaker 1: But I want them to have everything. I want them

869
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Speaker 1: to have access to everything that this nation can do

870
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Speaker 1: when it's running right.

871
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Speaker 3: Why be against the legislation that provides it.

872
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Speaker 1: Because you have a situation now where the real question

873
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Speaker 1: is do you need an affirmative action today? Now? Did

874
00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:19,400
Speaker 1: you need affirmative action? The answer to that is one

875
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Speaker 1: hundred percent yes, you absolutely needed it. The question is

876
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Speaker 1: in twenty twenty four, in twenty twenty eight, in twenty

877
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Speaker 1: thirty two, do you need that now? I would argue

878
00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:29,960
Speaker 1: the thing you need more now is you got to

879
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Speaker 1: have equality in terms of the level of academic attainment

880
00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:36,959
Speaker 1: for young black kids. What a young black kid needs

881
00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:38,600
Speaker 1: more now than anything today is to be able to

882
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Speaker 1: read and write. Read at grade level, write at grade

883
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Speaker 1: level do math at grade level and frankly and beyond,

884
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Speaker 1: that's what they need to do. You know, I don't

885
00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:49,279
Speaker 1: disagree with you, but I just don't trust white supremacy

886
00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:49,600
Speaker 1: that much.

887
00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:52,080
Speaker 4: I feel like you need that type of legislation. I

888
00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:54,160
Speaker 4: feel like you need those guardrails in place to make

889
00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:56,839
Speaker 4: sure protect, to protect, yes, and to make sure those

890
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Speaker 4: type of things happen.

891
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Speaker 6: You coming out of Brooklyn.

892
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Speaker 5: You don't.

893
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Speaker 6: You don't like that doesn't because you talked about your

894
00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:05,320
Speaker 6: mom a movie private school. So why now, like because

895
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Speaker 6: the kid that had to be moved out of that

896
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Speaker 6: public school to a private school because you said that

897
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Speaker 6: you were being trapped in a failing school. You know

898
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Speaker 6: that those schools, a lot of them are still failing.

899
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Speaker 6: So why do you But you you think that if

900
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Speaker 6: we get these things and we put these people in

901
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Speaker 6: place that you are mentioning, that all of that would

902
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Speaker 6: just change, Like I don't. We know that it doesn't

903
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Speaker 6: even work that fast even if people wanted to let me.

904
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Speaker 1: Put it this way, Because you know, Charlomage, you brought

905
00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:26,719
Speaker 1: up the port about you think that you need those

906
00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:31,000
Speaker 1: to guard against white supremacy. Well, I would argue, is

907
00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:33,799
Speaker 1: it white supremacy to lot kids in failing schools to

908
00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:35,520
Speaker 1: not give them an option to go to find the

909
00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:39,080
Speaker 1: academic environment that sus their interests. I would argue that

910
00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:43,080
Speaker 1: it would be white supremacy to basically move millions of

911
00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:46,520
Speaker 1: people into our country illegally on purpose and have them

912
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Speaker 1: overwhelm our systems. Here in New York City, the system

913
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Speaker 1: is overwhelmed. You know, that's just a one party problem.

914
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Speaker 4: Like I feel like, you know, what's been happening at

915
00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:56,000
Speaker 4: the border has been happening under so many different administrations.

916
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Speaker 6: Redlining has to Redlining is not just a.

917
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Speaker 1: Full stop, not like this, not like this under Donald

918
00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:04,759
Speaker 1: Trump through about two point four million people that came

919
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Speaker 1: into the country illegally under Joe Biden, Na Kamala Harris,

920
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Speaker 1: that number is easily ten million, that's what they know of.

921
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Speaker 1: It's probably more like fifteen million, because it's people that

922
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Speaker 1: came through the border. It's not even the same thing. Paul,

923
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna make my point.

924
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Speaker 3: My point.

925
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Speaker 1: We talked about financial regulatory policy, access to capital. I

926
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Speaker 1: would argue it actually upholds the pillars of quote unquote

927
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Speaker 1: white supremacy to not have free flowing access to capital

928
00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:30,400
Speaker 1: in the United States. So if you're a black person

929
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Speaker 1: trying to find a way to raise money for your business,

930
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Speaker 1: it is harder for you because you just don't even

931
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Speaker 1: have as many avenues to go to. But the policies

932
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Speaker 1: I advocate for the obviously the policies that conservatives advocate for.

933
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Speaker 1: It's actually loosening up the ability for kids to find

934
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Speaker 1: a school of their choice, putting their parents at the

935
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Speaker 1: head of the line, giving their parents the ability to

936
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Speaker 1: make that purchasing decision. My mom made a purchase decision

937
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Speaker 1: for me when it was very hard for her to

938
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Speaker 1: put the resources together. She was barely making ends met

939
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Speaker 1: to do that, but she loved me did that for me.

940
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Speaker 1: I think if you're gonna fund publica education fund the parents'

941
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Speaker 1: ability to make that decision so they can decide where

942
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Speaker 1: their kids go. That's some of the us some of

943
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Speaker 1: the policy I think Charlemagne that gives all families, especially

944
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Speaker 1: black families, black mothers, black fathers, the ability to have

945
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Speaker 1: their kids go further in America than anything before.

946
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Speaker 6: And I don't think that. I mean, I'm not against that.

947
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Speaker 6: I'm just also not against putting something in place that

948
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Speaker 6: like make sure that when that fails, because it's so

949
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Speaker 6: many people, and it will It's.

950
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Speaker 3: Already doing it right now, white people more. You know that.

951
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Speaker 7: You know what I mean.

952
00:45:30,120 --> 00:45:32,000
Speaker 6: It's just like, why not have something that comes in

953
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Speaker 6: and says, Okay, this kid from Brooklyn can get to

954
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Speaker 6: go to that school because that mom didn't get that money. However,

955
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Speaker 6: that kid is still smart and should be able to

956
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Speaker 6: go to that school.

957
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Speaker 1: It's who I don't trust is I don't trust bureaucrats,

958
00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:44,759
Speaker 1: and I don't trust politicians coming in here saying I'm

959
00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:48,000
Speaker 1: gonna invest blah blah blah billions and it's gonna do this.

960
00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:50,880
Speaker 1: Then when you turn around later there was no investment,

961
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Speaker 1: or the agencies or the administrators don't know what the

962
00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:56,399
Speaker 1: hell they're doing to invest that money. Anyway. I rather

963
00:45:56,440 --> 00:46:00,640
Speaker 1: give people those opportunities directly. I rather give people those

964
00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:03,719
Speaker 1: resources directly. I rather make sure that the rules are

965
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Speaker 1: clear and understood by everybody so people can make decisions.

966
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Speaker 1: Nothing's perfect. I grant you that we are all in

967
00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:12,239
Speaker 1: perfect people, So the institutions we put up are going

968
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Speaker 1: to be imperfect. There's going to be failures along the way.

969
00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:21,080
Speaker 1: But centralizing everything in Washington is an absolute goddamn disaster.

970
00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:25,239
Speaker 1: What do you say that. I'm sorry, Lord, I mean

971
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Speaker 1: I mean to do that.

972
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Speaker 2: People say that look like you, you don't support people

973
00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:30,279
Speaker 2: that look like you, and that you said against I

974
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Speaker 2: mean you said raist. Racism doesn't agree or doesn't it's

975
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Speaker 2: not in this country, talk about a lot of things,

976
00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:36,200
Speaker 2: so a lot of people don't feel like that you're

977
00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:37,680
Speaker 2: actually for the people that you look like.

978
00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:40,400
Speaker 1: I'm for everybody, man, including the people I look like,

979
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Speaker 1: not for everybody. I'm talking the people like that you

980
00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:44,520
Speaker 1: look like, But I'm for them too. I'm a one

981
00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:47,480
Speaker 1: hundred percent, one hundred percent. I want people to drive

982
00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:50,000
Speaker 1: to say, listen, listen, I came up from nothing. I'm

983
00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:51,719
Speaker 1: to be blunt with you. I'm not even supposed to

984
00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:53,800
Speaker 1: be here. We talked a little bit about my past,

985
00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:56,080
Speaker 1: the things that I've done wrong, et cetera. The fact

986
00:46:56,120 --> 00:46:57,840
Speaker 1: that I'm in this position now really is by the

987
00:46:57,840 --> 00:46:59,520
Speaker 1: grace of God. That's why I'm sorry God. I mean

988
00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:02,200
Speaker 1: made that earliest statement, but it's about a grace of God.

989
00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:05,040
Speaker 1: So what I want is for people to thrive and succeed.

990
00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:07,880
Speaker 1: But what I also know, when you're talking about economics,

991
00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:11,000
Speaker 1: when you're talking about public policy, the reality is you

992
00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:13,480
Speaker 1: got to have it set up so people everybody can

993
00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:16,960
Speaker 1: thrive and succeed. In that vehicle, black people can thrive

994
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:17,600
Speaker 1: and succeed.

995
00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:23,520
Speaker 5: When when you ensure that everyone succeeds, Congressman, is to

996
00:47:23,600 --> 00:47:26,960
Speaker 5: ensure that there's legislation in place to hold entities and

997
00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:29,400
Speaker 5: folks accountable for that success.

998
00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:33,200
Speaker 1: So you've this is not essentially Angela, that's actually not true.

999
00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:36,440
Speaker 5: Actually, okay, then I just disagree with you, But this

1000
00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:38,200
Speaker 5: is a place where I think we do agree. You've

1001
00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:41,680
Speaker 5: cited the sixty four Civil Rights Act, we talked about

1002
00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:44,000
Speaker 5: the sixty five Voting Rights Act. We haven't talked about

1003
00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:46,600
Speaker 5: sixty eight Fearhousing Act. But I think that you would

1004
00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:50,040
Speaker 5: say that all of those things were helpful to black folks,

1005
00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:55,600
Speaker 5: right of Okay, So if it is legislation to Leonard's point,

1006
00:47:55,600 --> 00:47:58,440
Speaker 5: thank you Leonard. And so then I think we should

1007
00:47:58,440 --> 00:48:01,439
Speaker 5: just touch briefly on Project twenty twenty five, which would

1008
00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:05,680
Speaker 5: erode most of that progress. Right. So we've already noted

1009
00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:11,360
Speaker 5: your overwhelming voting record with the Heritage Foundation based agenda.

1010
00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:14,480
Speaker 5: Project twenty twenty five is a joint proposal of the

1011
00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:18,440
Speaker 5: Heritage Foundation in twenty five of the thirty chapters written

1012
00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:23,120
Speaker 5: in Project twenty twenty five were written by former Trump staffers.

1013
00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:26,200
Speaker 5: At least one hundred and forty people who worked for

1014
00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:29,640
Speaker 5: Donald Trump worked on Project twenty twenty five. And we

1015
00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:32,720
Speaker 5: know that it is treacherous for the black community because

1016
00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:37,320
Speaker 5: it seeks to dismantle firmative action. We can anti discrimination laws,

1017
00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:41,720
Speaker 5: reduce the enforcement powers of the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission,

1018
00:48:41,719 --> 00:48:44,160
Speaker 5: which by the way, Clarence Thomas used to work there,

1019
00:48:44,680 --> 00:48:49,839
Speaker 5: reduce medicaid funding, eliminate programs aimed at addressing health disparities,

1020
00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:55,480
Speaker 5: includes measures to increase policing and incarceration, reduce funding for

1021
00:48:55,560 --> 00:49:00,360
Speaker 5: community based alternatives, and eliminate initiatives aimed at are using

1022
00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:05,280
Speaker 5: systemic racism in the justice system. As a black man,

1023
00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:09,160
Speaker 5: how are you not concerned with the agenda that is

1024
00:49:09,200 --> 00:49:11,040
Speaker 5: proposed by Project twenty twenty five.

1025
00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:14,400
Speaker 1: Uh, to bet, I'm not concerned about it because nobody

1026
00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:17,080
Speaker 1: in the Trump campaign or Donald Trump himself is even

1027
00:49:17,120 --> 00:49:19,479
Speaker 1: talking about it. To be blunt with you, Angela, none

1028
00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:22,279
Speaker 1: of us have even read it. So here's the problem, right,

1029
00:49:22,719 --> 00:49:23,080
Speaker 1: I get it.

1030
00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:26,000
Speaker 5: So none of us is. You're saying that the thirty

1031
00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:29,400
Speaker 5: the twenty five of the thirty chapters that were written

1032
00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:31,759
Speaker 5: by his former staff, and at least one hundred and

1033
00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:35,920
Speaker 5: forty people who worked for Donald Trump haven't touched it.

1034
00:49:36,080 --> 00:49:38,800
Speaker 5: Are you now distancing yourself from those people? I'm happy

1035
00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:41,279
Speaker 5: to name names, including Steven Miller, who I know you're

1036
00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:44,400
Speaker 5: very familiar with, was a very senior official in the

1037
00:49:44,440 --> 00:49:47,560
Speaker 5: Trump administration. And I know that we're clear about the

1038
00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:49,960
Speaker 5: fact that you guys are not naming it anymore because

1039
00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:53,080
Speaker 5: it's kind of become the boogeyman of this campaign, right.

1040
00:49:53,560 --> 00:49:54,839
Speaker 4: I think I might have to start saying a fun

1041
00:49:54,880 --> 00:49:56,759
Speaker 4: project twenty twenty five. To be honest with you, I'm

1042
00:49:56,760 --> 00:49:57,840
Speaker 4: really like, this is yourself.

1043
00:49:57,880 --> 00:49:59,680
Speaker 1: That's what Donald Trump has done. He's this is himself

1044
00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:01,680
Speaker 1: every sce time, every time he's asked about it, he goes,

1045
00:50:01,719 --> 00:50:03,400
Speaker 1: I have nothing to do with it. I don't even know.

1046
00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:05,680
Speaker 5: Ronald Trump isn't here today. Byron I know I am.

1047
00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:08,560
Speaker 1: Hold on, now let me because you like it. I

1048
00:50:08,560 --> 00:50:10,640
Speaker 1: haven't read it. So this is the thing, Charlemagne, I

1049
00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:14,000
Speaker 1: haven't just named what it does. Angela. First of all,

1050
00:50:14,200 --> 00:50:16,200
Speaker 1: with all due respect, I like to read things for

1051
00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:19,160
Speaker 1: myself before smart. You know what I'm saying, and that's

1052
00:50:19,160 --> 00:50:20,640
Speaker 1: it's all due respects to you, but I want to

1053
00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:23,239
Speaker 1: read everything for myself before I make a judgment. I

1054
00:50:23,239 --> 00:50:25,680
Speaker 1: will tell you that, like the Heritage Foundation, there are

1055
00:50:25,719 --> 00:50:27,719
Speaker 1: think tanks all through Washington. You have the Center for

1056
00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:30,480
Speaker 1: American Progress and all these other thing tanks. They all

1057
00:50:30,560 --> 00:50:33,279
Speaker 1: do a bunch of policy prescriptions. They all do a

1058
00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:36,440
Speaker 1: bunch of programs and projects. I think the UN has

1059
00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:39,520
Speaker 1: something called Project twenty thirty. That's a UN project that's

1060
00:50:39,560 --> 00:50:43,239
Speaker 1: going on right now. What I do know is that

1061
00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:46,560
Speaker 1: Heritage Foundation or any other policy group is not setting

1062
00:50:46,600 --> 00:50:49,120
Speaker 1: policy for Donald Trump. Donald Trump set in policy for

1063
00:50:49,160 --> 00:50:49,720
Speaker 1: Donald Trump.

1064
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Speaker 5: Are you going to distance yourself from the Heritage Foundation

1065
00:50:53,480 --> 00:50:55,160
Speaker 5: as well? Byron? Are you saying that that's.

1066
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Speaker 1: Just myself Angela, I'm not a part of the Heritage Foundation.

1067
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Speaker 1: I'm a United A United.

1068
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Speaker 5: States consenty six percent in alignment with what they've prescribed

1069
00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:06,800
Speaker 5: as policy recommendations for this country, ninety six percent.

1070
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Speaker 1: If Kamala Harris's voting record is ninety six percent of

1071
00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:12,239
Speaker 1: the time aligned with the Center for American Progress, does

1072
00:51:12,280 --> 00:51:13,600
Speaker 1: that mean now, that means she works at the Center

1073
00:51:13,600 --> 00:51:14,440
Speaker 1: for American Progress.

1074
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Speaker 5: And that's not the analogy what you made.

1075
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Speaker 3: That is exactly the analogy you make it come out.

1076
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Speaker 5: I have a question immediately analogy and said. What I

1077
00:51:22,920 --> 00:51:27,120
Speaker 5: said was, would you distance yourself from the Heritage Foundations?

1078
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Speaker 5: Would you distance yourself from the Project twenty twenty five?

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Speaker 5: Would you condemn Project twenty twenty five? Noting that it

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Speaker 5: will have some horrible impacts on the people who look

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Speaker 5: like you, the very folks who you said that you're

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Speaker 5: working over time to ensure they have access to this economy.

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Speaker 5: This project would decimate that access and would decimate the

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Speaker 5: Voting Rights Act of sixty five, which you're still not supporting,

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Speaker 5: free clearance for nineteen sixty four Civil Rights Act, and

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Speaker 5: the Fair Housing Act, that all the things that you

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Speaker 5: said that you want to decrease access to.

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Speaker 1: You got to read it, Angela, I just said it.

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Speaker 1: I haven't read it, so it's not something I'm abscribing

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Speaker 1: to or supporting in it. Nobody on the Trump campaign,

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Speaker 1: to my knowledge, including President Trump, hasn't. They have not

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Speaker 1: read it. They're not abscribed to it. And let's be

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Speaker 1: very clear, because you mentioned all the people that were

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Speaker 1: in the Trump admin network over there we're doing some

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Speaker 1: of that work. There were people in the Obama admin

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Speaker 1: that work at think tanks. Now they're doing policy work

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Speaker 1: people at the Georgia. So this happens all the time.

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Speaker 1: I think the issue Hold on now, let me finish. Now.

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Speaker 1: There are people who work in presidential administrations on Capitol Hill,

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Speaker 1: they go to think tanks, they write up white papers

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Speaker 1: all the time. That does not mean that what they

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Speaker 1: write up actually becomes law. And so that's the point

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Speaker 1: I'm making. So for for Vice President Harris's campaign to

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Speaker 1: be talking so much about Project twenty twenty five, which

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump isn't even a part of, has not abscribed to,

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Speaker 1: has not said this is my plan. When you can

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Speaker 1: go to his website and you see the policies he

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Speaker 1: wants to support, when you can know it is not Angela,

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Speaker 1: you need to stop now, or you can read or

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Speaker 1: you can read the Republican Platform, which Donald Trump actually

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Speaker 1: changed at our convention this year, which is the policy

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Speaker 1: sets of our party and what we are ascribing to

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Speaker 1: and what we want to do as a party. I

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Speaker 1: think that's where voters need to go.

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Speaker 5: Trump has there's trump distinction between Project twenty twenty five,

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Speaker 5: the Republican Platform, and Donald Trump's campaign platform. How can

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Speaker 5: you distance yourself from Project I got it.

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Speaker 1: I got a different question because Trump has disavowed, but

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Speaker 1: he did praise the Heritage Foundition a lot for years.

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Speaker 1: Of course. I mean, yeah, we all have praised the

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Speaker 1: Heritage Foundation, but that doesn't mean we agree with that

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Speaker 1: work that Heritage did. But here's my question, what does

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Speaker 1: Kamala Harris actually want to do? Because let's talk about

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Speaker 1: her economic plans that she's coming. I'm gonna go through

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Speaker 1: a couple of them. She says she wants to tax

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Speaker 1: unrealized games. I don't know if she really wants to

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Speaker 1: do that anymore because Mark Cuban, who's supporting her, went

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Speaker 1: on CNBC and said that it would destroy.

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Speaker 5: The stock market.

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Speaker 1: But already answered that because because we have a presidential

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Speaker 1: election in thirty eight days now, which is the thing

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Speaker 1: that's coming forward, so we need to have this conversation.

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Speaker 1: The she wants to do price gouging or go after

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Speaker 1: price gouging, Well, how are you going to do that?

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Speaker 1: Because when you do that, what you're actually going to

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Speaker 1: do is put downward pressure on prices in our country.

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Speaker 1: When you do that artificially, what you create is scarcity

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Speaker 1: of product. So that what is that What that means

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Speaker 1: is you're going to have poor people in our country.

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Speaker 1: You are going to have less access to goods and

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Speaker 1: services because rich people gonn get their goods and services

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Speaker 1: no matter what, they have the access points they're gonna

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Speaker 1: get them. So you're gonna have less product for poor

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Speaker 1: people in our country. She had a thing about she

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Speaker 1: wants to do twenty five thousand dollars for a new

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Speaker 1: home for new first time home buyers. I think that's great. Well, no,

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Speaker 1: it's not, because what's going to happen is it's going

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Speaker 1: to increase the cost of housing twenty five thousand dollars.

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Speaker 1: Because if you know, every first time home buyer has

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Speaker 1: twenty five thousand dollars from the government in their back pocket,

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Speaker 1: you as the seller, you're gonna be like, oh wait

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Speaker 1: a minute. Every celler ate large is going to be like,

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Speaker 1: you know what, well, then I can increase my price

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Speaker 1: is twenty five thousand dollars. It's going to have an

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Speaker 1: upward trajectory shot on housing costs in our country, which

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Speaker 1: is the thing we don't need in America. Those are

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Speaker 1: three economic policies I know to work like a hypothetical.

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Speaker 2: Why would it increase that twenty five thousand from the

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Speaker 2: government to purchase it.

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Speaker 1: For Let's say, let's say there's three million first time

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Speaker 1: home buyers in the United States of America. They all

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Speaker 1: have an additional twenty five thousand dollars of purchasing power.

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Speaker 1: You do have a situation where every seller in the

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Speaker 1: country is going to realize, oh, shoot, is this a

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Speaker 1: first time home buyer? Well, I know you have an

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Speaker 1: additional twenty five When you provide that type of stimulus

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Speaker 1: into an economy, what you end up doing is you

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Speaker 1: increase prices and whatever that that whatever that economy is.

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Speaker 1: She says, she wants to build three million new homes.

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Speaker 1: How are you going to do that? Let me let

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Speaker 1: me explain why environmental policy built at the federal and

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Speaker 1: state level makes it much harder to build housing. Whether

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Speaker 1: you believe in climate change or not, weather rising, energy efficiency,

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Speaker 1: all of those regulations has made it more expensive to

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Speaker 1: build housing. If the federal government says, okay, now we're

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Speaker 1: going to go for three million new homes, okay, well,

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Speaker 1: how's that going to work. Are you going to change

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Speaker 1: the regulatory burden for building those new homes? Are you

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Speaker 1: not going to have a disjointed regulatory burden between federal

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Speaker 1: house and one built in a private sector. That's not smart.

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Speaker 1: You can't do that. So if you're not gonna change

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Speaker 1: the regulation, you're just gonna pump more money into the system.

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Speaker 1: What you're gonna do is you're gonna push up the

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Speaker 1: costs for the materials to build housing, which is gonna

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Speaker 1: make it more expensive, not less expensive. And so if

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Speaker 1: you take advantage of the home that kamil for you,

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Speaker 1: great for you, But for the entire economy ritt large,

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Speaker 1: it's not gonna be good because the cost of housing

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Speaker 1: is gonna go up on everybody that doesn't help you.

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Speaker 1: So that said, you disagree with the stimulus check student

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Speaker 1: at the time when stimulus checks were going through under

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Speaker 1: COVID nineteen, the only reason I agreed with them is

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Speaker 1: because the entire economy was shut down. So when you

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Speaker 1: shut down the entire economy and nobody has an ability

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Speaker 1: to go and earn money, then yeah, you got to

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Speaker 1: step in the gap and do that. The only difference

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Speaker 1: was the last one we did, which is that's the

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Speaker 1: article I gave you on the American Rescue Plan. Even

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Speaker 1: Larry Summer said the amount of stimulus they were gonna

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Speaker 1: put in was five times the amount of decreased economic

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Speaker 1: input we were having in the country because of the

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Speaker 1: COVID nineteen medical protocols that lockdown communities in lockdown states.

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Speaker 1: So that's what created your inflation, which has crippled purchasing

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Speaker 1: power for everybody in our country. Man, go fix a car.

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Speaker 1: Forget we talk about food so much, or we talk

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Speaker 1: about housing so much, and of course that's important. Go

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Speaker 1: fix your car. I just got the bill from my

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Speaker 1: son's car. That thing got me, and I can and

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Speaker 1: I can make it work. What about people who aren't

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Speaker 1: in my position, or frankly, who were in my position

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Speaker 1: when I was thirty and not forty five, because thirty

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Speaker 1: year old me couldn't live under this price regime that

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Speaker 1: has been brought to us by Kamala Harrison, Joe Biden.

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Speaker 4: Hold On, and about that, we're going to rap in

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Speaker 4: a second. But I want to ask you a couple

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Speaker 4: questions about the party. Really, one question, why do people

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Speaker 4: think the economy does better under Republicans when the data

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Speaker 4: showed otherwise.

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Speaker 3: And this is a question I've been.

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Speaker 4: Asking the different people that are have economy backgrounds, like

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Speaker 4: why do people think the economy does better under Republicans,

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Speaker 4: but the data showed since World War Two the economy

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Speaker 4: has performed better under democratic presidents.

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Speaker 1: Well, I would actually make one adjustment to that statement.

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Speaker 1: I think the economy typically performs better when you have

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Speaker 1: split government because what ends up happening is you don't

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Speaker 1: have one party just pushing all economic policy. It kind

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Speaker 1: of stagnates out economic policy. And what businesses want more

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Speaker 1: than anything is consistency and policy. Like you know, a

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Speaker 1: business owner is you know, like like any athlete, as

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Speaker 1: long as you're not changing the landscape of the field.

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Speaker 1: Once I know what the rules are, I can go

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Speaker 1: operate and be effective.

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Speaker 4: So what do you think you think democratic president and everything?

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Speaker 3: What do you think? What do you what do you say?

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Speaker 6: Support to business owners.

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Speaker 1: Saying when you say split government, what do you mean?

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Speaker 1: I'm saying historically our economy has performed best under split government.

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying that typically it's a Republican president and

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Speaker 1: Democrats that does better under democratic president. No, no, No, What

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Speaker 1: I'm saying is that historically, over time is when you

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Speaker 1: have split government. But I think the reason why to

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Speaker 1: your original point about why do people feel that way,

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Speaker 1: is because when Donald Trump was president versus when Joe

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Speaker 1: Biden president. That's what people are looking at right now.

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump, wages adjusted for inflation were up, costs were stabilized,

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Speaker 1: and so those two inputs in an economy make you

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Speaker 1: feel like you have more money in your pocket. When

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump came into office, under them President Obama, our

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Speaker 1: economy was somewhat stagnant. We were growing at about one one

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Speaker 1: and a half percent per year. And so his changes

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Speaker 1: in economic and tax policy in particular, but then also

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Speaker 1: regulatory policy, where he cut up a ton of regulations,

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Speaker 1: our economic growth moved from one one and a half

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Speaker 1: to three three and a half. That's a real boost

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Speaker 1: of people, and they see it and they remember it.

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Speaker 1: Now you have the Biden Harris economy, well we've stagnated

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Speaker 1: again and inflation is massively up. So how people feel is,

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Speaker 1: wait a minute. I just went to the grocery store.

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Speaker 1: I bought bread, I bought cookies, I brought milk. It's

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Speaker 1: way more expensive. I got a raise, but it doesn't

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Speaker 1: feel like I'm still getting ahead. My rent's more expensive,

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Speaker 1: fixing my car is moreen and all those things are

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Speaker 1: obviously ascribed to the current administration. Because the inflation started

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Speaker 1: really in September twenty twenty one, after the American Rescue

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Speaker 1: Plan that was Joe Biden's plan came into law. So

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Speaker 1: people are feeling that, Charlotta Mane, and I think that's why,

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Speaker 1: you know, in the backdrop of politics, I talked a

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Speaker 1: little bit about people moving under the feet of the parties.

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Speaker 1: One of the reasons why black men in particular are

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Speaker 1: starting to look at Donald Trump because they're like, you

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Speaker 1: know what, at least my pockets were good when he

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Speaker 1: was president. The other stuff, that's other stuff. I was

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Speaker 1: making more money and my money was going further.

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Speaker 4: But I think they feel like that because the stimulus

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Speaker 4: checks in the PvP loans. But you you got to

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Speaker 4: look at what had to happen in order for that

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Speaker 4: money to go out, Like you had to have a

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Speaker 4: freaking pandemic with millions of people died.

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Speaker 1: But no, no, that's not going to happen. But but oh no,

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Speaker 1: I don't want it to happen either. But I want

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Speaker 1: to be clear on this. Wages adjusted for inflation before

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Speaker 1: the COVID nineteen pandemic was at the highest level for

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Speaker 1: Black Americans, Hispanic Americans, White Americans in the history of

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Speaker 1: the country. The wage gap, which gets talked about so

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Speaker 1: much in our politics. The wage gap was actually decreasing

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Speaker 1: under Donald Trump's presidency. And then the COVID nineteen pandemic hit,

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Speaker 1: and then COVID was just such a disaster for everybody.

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Speaker 1: And now we have a situation where we have massive

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Speaker 1: inflation in the country. Inflation today is like a little

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Speaker 1: over three percent year over year, but when you take

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Speaker 1: in the totality of these price increases, prices are up

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Speaker 1: well over twenty percent in our country the last four years.

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Speaker 1: That's real life stuff everybody's dealing with. And I think

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Speaker 1: that's why Donald Trump is being more successful in some

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Speaker 1: parts of the electorate than he has in the past.

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Speaker 6: I got real quick, just Jdvance, where are you at? Like,

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Speaker 6: how do you feel about where he is now and

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Speaker 6: where he's taking the party too?

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Speaker 3: Because you was you was in the running for VP

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Speaker 3: at one point.

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Speaker 6: I know you say that day when he announced it

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Speaker 6: wasn't you no, no.

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Speaker 1: No, no, no, It was good. You know. I told

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Speaker 1: President Trump. I was like, man, whatever you do is

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Speaker 1: whatever you do that conversation. But JD, I think JD's

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Speaker 1: hit his stride. I'm here, actually, I'm in New York

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Speaker 1: because I'm gonna be at the debate tomorrow night, and

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Speaker 1: I think it's going to be a really important debate

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Speaker 1: for the country to start hearing about all these different

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Speaker 1: policies in deptail. The way Angela and I are going

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Speaker 1: back through policy, I think that's important. And I think

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Speaker 1: JD's doing good. You know again, victory is what Matt

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Speaker 1: He's not doing that.

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Speaker 3: He's actually terrible.

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Speaker 4: He's actually he's actually done so much more damage that

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Speaker 4: did I take it? He should have made Nikki Heley.

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Speaker 6: In his stride.

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Speaker 3: He's terrible.

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Speaker 1: The cat lady thing. I mean, I don't agree with that, man,

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Speaker 1: I don't agree. I don't agree with what.

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Speaker 3: Came from him too.

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Speaker 1: I don't agree with that either. I just don't.

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Speaker 5: What do you mean, what do do you agree with?

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Speaker 1: Because what JD is doing is that he's basically doing

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Speaker 1: the thing that Tim Wallas and Kamala Harris are not doing.

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Speaker 1: He's engaging media every single day, he's engaging it all

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Speaker 1: over the country and especially in this twenty four hour

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Speaker 1: news cycle. We have so many outlets for information like

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Speaker 1: this one here, which, by the way, man, thank y'all

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Speaker 1: for letting me come here. I really appreciate it. But

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Speaker 1: when you have all these outlets, it's important to fill

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Speaker 1: that gap. And if we're gonna I.

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Speaker 3: Agree with that, but.

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Speaker 4: I don't want you on the microphone just saying anything

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Speaker 4: making me look bad. That means you can make all

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Speaker 4: the appearances you want. But if you just making me,

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Speaker 4: making making us look bad every time you talk, it's

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Speaker 4: like standing down JD doing good man.

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Speaker 3: I do want to ask you about thes you look

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Speaker 3: at the third question.

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Speaker 4: You are getting a lot of smoke right now from

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Speaker 4: the Office of Congressional Ethics because it says you failed

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Speaker 4: to probably disclose two years worth of you and your

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Speaker 4: wife's stop trades. Why didn't you disclose that information?

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Speaker 1: Actually a great question. I'm glad you brought this up.

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Speaker 1: So a couple of things. One, we actually self reported

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Speaker 1: to the Ethics Committee on this, So we self reported saying, hey,

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Speaker 1: we didn't file this paperwork, and I got to take

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Speaker 1: that that was me. I didn't file. I didn't file

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Speaker 1: it like I should have. We went back and we

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Speaker 1: were making those adjustments. That report is actually going to

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Speaker 1: get refiled. I used to be in investments. That was

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Speaker 1: my last stop in my career, so I'm securities licensed.

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Speaker 1: Also the periodic transaction reports that this report speaks to.

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Speaker 1: My firm does all the trading on my behalf. I

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Speaker 1: actually gave them trading authority for my accounts, so I

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Speaker 1: do not trade. I do not initiate trades. My firm

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Speaker 1: makes them on my behalf. So my team is working

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Speaker 1: with my firm. We have all that data. We're actually

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Speaker 1: going to make an amendment to that filing. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: push it forward. And I don't want to speak any

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Speaker 1: more of that because that's what ethics, but that's where

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Speaker 1: we are right now. I got to take ownership of that.

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Speaker 1: But we're gonna fix it.

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Speaker 4: We're going because in the past you spoke out in

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Speaker 4: support of banning lawmakers.

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Speaker 1: I agree with that. I don't think lawmakers should make

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Speaker 1: trades directly. And the way this works is, you know,

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Speaker 1: as a as a financial advisor, Charla Mane, if you

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Speaker 1: are my client, you can either initiate the trade by

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Speaker 1: calling me or I can call you and say, Charlet Manne,

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Speaker 1: I think you should do. This is a good move

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Speaker 1: as long as the investment advisor is bringing the information

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Speaker 1: and pressing the trade, I think there's nothing wrong with that.

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Speaker 1: What we What should never be allowed is the member

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Speaker 1: of Congress in this example, calling the investment advisor and saying, hey,

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Speaker 1: trade this trade that I think that is totally wrong

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Speaker 1: and out of bounds. We have information that the public

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Speaker 1: doesn't have. I do not initiate trade.

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Speaker 3: What differences the show and who initiates it?

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Speaker 6: Because if your advisor calls you and says I think

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Speaker 6: you should do this, are you not feeding back opinion

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Speaker 6: and saying, well, based on what I know, blah blah blah,

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Speaker 6: I don't think that's a good idea.

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Speaker 3: We should do more.

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Speaker 6: It's the same thing who starts to come as far.

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Speaker 4: As right because you did have stock and companies that

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Speaker 4: you oversaw with het, Yeah, and my company makes those trades.

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Speaker 4: And if you actually go into the note to my

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Speaker 4: of my firm, my management team that runs my stock portfolio,

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Speaker 4: there's no record of.

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Speaker 1: Us even having that conversation. So, as an investment advisor,

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Speaker 1: every time I was on the phone with the client,

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Speaker 1: I had to take a note of that conversation. And

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Speaker 1: so the reason why I have less concern about the

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Speaker 1: advisor making the call to a client, specifically a member

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Speaker 1: of Congress, is because that's the advisor bringing information to

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Speaker 1: that that member of Congress, not the other right around.

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Speaker 1: If they're up to me just being pure about it,

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Speaker 1: the member of Congress shouldn't even be on a call

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Speaker 1: at all. That's how I run my business. I'm not

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Speaker 1: on the phone with my firm. They make their trades

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Speaker 1: regardless of whatever I say with the regardless of whatever

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Speaker 1: I think, because the trades that are made are actually

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Speaker 1: in lockstep with every other client we have, or I

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Speaker 1: say they have. When I was with the firman was

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Speaker 1: we they have under that product line. And I think

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Speaker 1: that's how it should be.

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Speaker 6: Why even though get into stock at all, it's like,

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Speaker 6: you know what I mean, if that is if that

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Speaker 6: could be a controversy into the trading, Like why even

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Speaker 6: do that at all?

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Speaker 1: Because at the end of the day, No, because at

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Speaker 1: the end of the day, you're still an American. Like

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Speaker 1: I mean, let me put this way. Should I have

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Speaker 1: to sell all my assets to be a member of Congress?

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Speaker 1: I don't think that's right either. I just don't think

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Speaker 1: that's right. You're an American still even though you're a

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Speaker 1: member of Congress. I think where all the angs comes

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Speaker 1: in is that you have had some members the most

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Speaker 1: notable is Nancy Pelosi, but there's other members, and it's

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Speaker 1: been on both sides of the aisle, So I'm not

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Speaker 1: just going to just throw Nancy out there. But Nancy's

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Speaker 1: the most egregious where her husband is making all the

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Speaker 1: trades like you got whole people on Twitter on X

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Speaker 1: excuse me who are literally following Paul Pelosi's trades. That's

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Speaker 1: not right, Angela.

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Speaker 3: You said you had a last question.

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Speaker 5: Yes, will you vote to certify the twenty twenty four

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Speaker 5: election results even if they don't go in your favor?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, the biggest thing, and this is a

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Speaker 1: great question. I'm glad you or I don't know if

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Speaker 1: we're but it's cool. I'm glad that you asked that. One.

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Speaker 1: The biggest thing I want to see is that states

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Speaker 1: and local localities follow election procedure. As long as they

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Speaker 1: do that, I'll certify, no problem.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, And you know there are a number of states

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Speaker 5: where that's in contest right now. In fact, in Georgia,

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Speaker 5: where you talked about things being more democratized, they are

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Speaker 5: actually making it tougher to certify election results on the

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Speaker 5: state level.

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Speaker 1: How honestly, Angela, masking your expertise I don't know how.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, there's a whole commission that just voted to make

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Speaker 5: it more difficult. They even talked about counting ballots by hand,

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Speaker 5: which would delay the certifying of the election results.

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Speaker 1: I mean, look, if they count them by hand to

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Speaker 1: ensure results, you know, I think that's overall, I think

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Speaker 1: that's a good thing. I think the other thing is

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Speaker 1: we do need some states who are going to improve

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Speaker 1: the way they go through their ballot procedure. Like you know,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna bring up California again, but.

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Speaker 5: In California, maybe Florida.

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Speaker 1: No, because in Florida, you know our results by eleven

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Speaker 1: PM that night.

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Speaker 5: In California, a number of irregularities voting processes.

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Speaker 1: You sit in California, you have a situation where it

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Speaker 1: takes them three four days to say what the results

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Speaker 1: are of an election. That's crazy. That was like watching

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Speaker 1: a football game. I was like watching the Ravens Bills

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Speaker 1: game last night and not knowing what the score was

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Speaker 1: until two days later on Sports Center. That don't make

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Speaker 1: any sense. We could do that.

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Speaker 5: Well. Yeah, and the reason why I'm asking this question

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Speaker 5: is because you voted to overturn the twenty twenty election results.

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Speaker 5: Right in the heart of the insurrection, the same day

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Speaker 5: of the insurrection.

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Speaker 1: Impact, Yeah, I did. And that was the reason why

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Speaker 1: is because I believe the two states were Arizona and Pennsylvania.

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Speaker 1: I think were that day. In Pennsylvania, the state Supreme

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Speaker 1: Court ruled they were going to allow ballots three days

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Speaker 1: after the polls closed. Well, that's actually in violation of

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Speaker 1: state law because state law in Pennsylvania Code says that

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Speaker 1: only time that ballots are allowed to actually be accepted

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Speaker 1: is when the polls closed. Anything after that, this is

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Speaker 1: Pennsylvania law. Anything after that, you're not allowed to accept

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Speaker 1: those ballots. The Supreme Court in Pennsylvania changed that. They

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Speaker 1: only changed that because of COVID nineteen. I disagreed with

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Speaker 1: that because of what I felt that that did is

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Speaker 1: it expanded the voting pot to to other issues that

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Speaker 1: should not have been allowed. So that's why.

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Speaker 5: And right, And you do know a number of issues

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Speaker 5: that have been raised by the Republican Party are around

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Speaker 5: voter fraud. You know how many voter fraud cases there

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Speaker 5: were in Pennsylvania in twenty twenty around the twenty twenty election.

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Speaker 1: No, all I'm talking to is about the fact that

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Speaker 1: they did not follow election procedure in the state of Pennsylvania,

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Speaker 1: and so by not following.

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Speaker 5: Record, some of what was raised is voter fraud cases.

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Speaker 5: So your issue is not voter fraud.

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Speaker 1: Listen, I have an issue whether it's fraud or not

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Speaker 1: following the rules to the game, and so I think

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Speaker 1: both are just as egregious. If you changed if you

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Speaker 1: change the rules upon election procedure in the fourth quarter

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Speaker 1: of an election, that's not good for either side competing

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Speaker 1: in that election. And let me expound on this. You

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Speaker 1: know I played basketball growing up, right, If you know,

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Speaker 1: if if a ref decided that you know, for the

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Speaker 1: first three quarters, we you know, we're gonna call traveling

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Speaker 1: tick tack, and fourth quarter we just gonna let it go.

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Speaker 1: That's not right for the fluidity of that game. You

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Speaker 1: got to be consistent. And so I look at it

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Speaker 1: the same way I look at elections. Just be consistent.

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Speaker 1: Whatever the rules are. The rules are, it's the responsibility

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Speaker 1: of citizens and local officials to fall under that and

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Speaker 1: make sure in the issue of voting that everybody can

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Speaker 1: make sure they're vote is counted.

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Speaker 4: We're gonna get out of after this. Do you speaking

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Speaker 4: of fluidy, do you leave Mark Robinsons just stepped down

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Speaker 4: thirty seconds or less.

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Speaker 1: Man, I'm gonna leave that in Mark's hands. And no, seriously.

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Speaker 1: The reason why, No, seriously, The reason why is because

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Speaker 1: I've seen so many situations where the early reporting looks

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Speaker 1: terrible then you find out after the fact that it's

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Speaker 1: either a shade of what's being reported or not true

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Speaker 1: at all. So anybody making the decision to run, that's

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Speaker 1: in the hands of that man and his team and

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Speaker 1: his family. And I'm serious about that. Let me tell

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Speaker 1: you them, I'm serious about it.

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Speaker 4: I that's the one thing, one thing I do wanted,

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Speaker 4: the thing that respected our Republicans is that.

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Speaker 1: They that's how we feel about That's how we feel

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Speaker 1: about that. Mcruts man. That's because that's because Eric came

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Speaker 1: at them. I don't go about that. I'm leave that long.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what happened in the Eric situation. They

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Speaker 1: were riding with Joe Biden until he realized that, you know,

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Speaker 1: he wasn't with us, and the second they realized he

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Speaker 1: wasn't with us. Let's be real about this, Joe Biden

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Speaker 1: was the nominee. If that debate in Atlanta two weeks

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Speaker 1: ago didn't happen two months ago. Didn't happen, we'd be

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Speaker 1: talking about Donald Trump Joe Biden. The only reason that

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Speaker 1: they got rid of Joe Biden is because his poll

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Speaker 1: numbers were creating it, not just for him, for Senate Democrat, Republican,

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Speaker 1: for Senate Democrats, and for and for House Democrats. And

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Speaker 1: when they looked at their numbers dropping, then that's when

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Speaker 1: they were like, man, showed the old dude the door.

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Speaker 1: We got to move on.

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Speaker 4: I'm glad they made the right decision and with somebody

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Speaker 4: in the Republican Party would do the same, because y'all

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Speaker 4: can do much better than Donald J.

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Speaker 1: Trump. Now we're gonna be good man. We're gonna make

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Speaker 1: America great again.

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Speaker 2: A right, lord, Congressman Byron Donalds, appreciate you for joining.

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Speaker 1: Appreciate See there you go, wake that up in the

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Speaker 1: morning breakfast club.