1 00:00:02,440 --> 00:00:06,800 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, podcasts, radio news. 2 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:09,400 Speaker 2: Let's get a farm Er International show where we can 3 00:00:09,640 --> 00:00:11,800 Speaker 2: frame the narrative a little bit further. Guy Johnson, it's 4 00:00:11,800 --> 00:00:15,080 Speaker 2: any time, but the see of cut aways. Guy, good morning, Manice, 5 00:00:15,120 --> 00:00:18,040 Speaker 2: thank you very much. Indeed, is the new CEO of 6 00:00:18,120 --> 00:00:21,239 Speaker 2: Cast Airways. It is fantastic to speak with him and 7 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:23,200 Speaker 2: have him join us here at the farm Ber Ratio. 8 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:25,000 Speaker 3: Nice to see you, really good to see you too. 9 00:00:25,200 --> 00:00:27,400 Speaker 3: Friday was a busy day for the Aviation Center. 10 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:31,080 Speaker 4: Talk me through the effects on your airline. Took me 11 00:00:31,080 --> 00:00:33,080 Speaker 4: through the effect you're still seeing. Is there any effect 12 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:33,840 Speaker 4: that we're still seeing. 13 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:37,800 Speaker 1: I'll talk about our airline and our airport. Thank god 14 00:00:38,200 --> 00:00:40,400 Speaker 1: we were not affected out of our base and do 15 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:46,080 Speaker 1: Everything was moving smoothly. Our ontime performance on that specific 16 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:51,160 Speaker 1: day was around eighty seven eighty eight percent. But we 17 00:00:51,159 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 1: were expecting some delays after our wave because our early 18 00:00:55,880 --> 00:00:59,160 Speaker 1: morning wave has basically gone to Europe and the US. 19 00:00:59,840 --> 00:01:03,080 Speaker 1: Were expecting some delays for our flights coming back from 20 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:07,160 Speaker 1: Europe and the US because the airports were getting busy, 21 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:10,920 Speaker 1: so many flows were getting canceled. But luckily it was 22 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 1: better than what we expected from from what's the lesson. 23 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:20,400 Speaker 1: Lesson You always have to have plan B. If technology 24 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:22,560 Speaker 1: fails you need to go back to to You need 25 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:25,720 Speaker 1: to have again you need to defend the dependent technology. 26 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:29,160 Speaker 3: But you have to have a plan b Ryano this morning, dwngrading. 27 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 4: It's demand expectations, it's pricing expectations. 28 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:35,400 Speaker 3: What are you seeing in terms of demand and pricing? 29 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:40,560 Speaker 1: You know, we have recorded record profit last financial year, 30 00:01:41,319 --> 00:01:48,040 Speaker 1: and we keep getting asked this question and we continue 31 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:52,840 Speaker 1: to say, no, demand is there, However, proof as in 32 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:59,360 Speaker 1: the pudding our first quarter of this financial year as 33 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 1: another record profit. It is way more than the net 34 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:10,080 Speaker 1: profit that we have recorded in the first quarter of 35 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 1: last year, and it is also exceeding. 36 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:17,720 Speaker 3: Our So it's demand accelerating. Let us from what we see. 37 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 3: Let's okay, you. 38 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:23,720 Speaker 4: Are going to unveil in an hour or so, your 39 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:26,959 Speaker 4: new premium class cabin, your first class cabin, your business 40 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:27,600 Speaker 4: class cabin. 41 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:28,680 Speaker 3: It's what you've got. 42 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:31,919 Speaker 4: It's the Q Suite, and it's going to go into 43 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:34,760 Speaker 4: the Triple seven X, which is an airplane that we're 44 00:02:34,760 --> 00:02:39,119 Speaker 4: all waiting for. Yeah, it's the new Boeing and we've 45 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:41,639 Speaker 4: been waiting for quite some time. And I'm wondering kind 46 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 4: of if you're prepared to wait that long to put 47 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 4: this new product into this new airplane, does it have 48 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 4: to be the new Q Suite with the new Triple 49 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:50,760 Speaker 4: seven X. 50 00:02:51,160 --> 00:02:53,680 Speaker 1: You know, we're putting the new Q Suite on both aircrafts, 51 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 1: the Triple seven X and the three fifty year. 52 00:02:56,760 --> 00:02:58,880 Speaker 3: So it's going to go in the new three fifty absolutely, yes, 53 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:00,320 Speaker 3: the Triple seven ACTS. 54 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:03,799 Speaker 1: The date that we have now from Boeing is around 55 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 1: first quarter of twenty twenty six. Twenty twenty four is 56 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:10,680 Speaker 1: already over, so you're talking about a year a year 57 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 1: and a. 58 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:12,200 Speaker 3: Half confidence on that date. 59 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:15,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, we got we got a confirmation and a commitment 60 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:18,200 Speaker 1: from Bowing that they will be able to deliver the 61 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 1: aircraft on this date. 62 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:21,440 Speaker 4: So where do we see it? Where do we need it? 63 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:23,440 Speaker 4: Where do we you see this new Q Suite first? 64 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:25,080 Speaker 4: Is it going to be on the three fifty or 65 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 4: the Triple seven X will be on the Triple seven X, right, 66 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:32,359 Speaker 4: and if it's the layed any further ittle that that changes, 67 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 4: you'll put it into the three fifteen. Yes, we're also 68 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:37,880 Speaker 4: expecting a big order from Cata. We thought it might 69 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 4: come at this air show. There were rumors, there. 70 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:43,480 Speaker 3: Was some expectation there's civil owners. 71 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:49,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, but you know it's a it's a big order, 72 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 1: so we want to take our time and evaluating the 73 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 1: bids or the offers that we got we received from 74 00:03:57,600 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 1: Boeing and Airbus. We're busy evaluating both offers. We're in 75 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 1: continuous discussion with with both manufacturers and and we're hoping 76 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:10,200 Speaker 1: we're aiming to conclude the. 77 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:13,960 Speaker 3: The the deal, the decision. 78 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:17,560 Speaker 1: By I would not say and this year maybe in 79 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:18,800 Speaker 1: the beginning of next year. 80 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 3: Where's it's a lake. 81 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 4: You're evaluating the offers, so you've got what you need 82 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 4: or are you still waiting for what you need? 83 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 1: We got what we we got partially, We got what 84 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 1: we need and the offers, but we asked for something 85 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:37,599 Speaker 1: different this time from both manufacturers and and this is 86 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 1: where we're spending some time and this in the discussion 87 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:42,200 Speaker 1: with them. 88 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:45,080 Speaker 4: The engines is the aircraft, what is where's the where's 89 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:45,840 Speaker 4: the challenge of the will? 90 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:50,200 Speaker 1: And no, there is no challenge. It's very clear what 91 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:53,560 Speaker 1: we are asked for. But the other element that we 92 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:56,599 Speaker 1: asked the the the the manufacturers to bid for or 93 00:04:56,640 --> 00:04:59,760 Speaker 1: to propose it for us, because it is something new 94 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:03,560 Speaker 1: maybe maybe in the industry or the way the bid 95 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:07,720 Speaker 1: for for tenders. This is where we are in continuous 96 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 1: discussion with them. 97 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:13,520 Speaker 4: Okay, that's the key, Sweet, What difference is that going 98 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:15,520 Speaker 4: to make? What do you how do you think this 99 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:16,880 Speaker 4: is going to change the product that you are going 100 00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:18,120 Speaker 4: to be able to offer? And how do you think 101 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:19,400 Speaker 4: it's going to keep you competitive? 102 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:21,719 Speaker 3: You know, for us, the Q suite. 103 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:25,839 Speaker 1: Everybody knows the Q sweet, either you tried it or 104 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:29,640 Speaker 1: you read or read about it. So it's been there 105 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:34,320 Speaker 1: for for many years. It raised the benchmark for many years, 106 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 1: and you know, we won so many awards. Our team 107 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:43,800 Speaker 1: decided to take a new challenge by basically push the 108 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:50,280 Speaker 1: bar once again, raise the the benchmark and too basically 109 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:54,080 Speaker 1: do some some modification and the and the and I'm 110 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:58,800 Speaker 1: not talking about colors or fabrics or no, it's structural 111 00:05:59,160 --> 00:05:59,919 Speaker 1: changes in the end. 112 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:02,279 Speaker 4: Okay, Well, that takes me to my next question. Perfectly, 113 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:08,280 Speaker 4: structural changes, a reassessment of what the airline does. You've 114 00:06:08,279 --> 00:06:11,600 Speaker 4: come in as the new CEO used around the airport, 115 00:06:12,200 --> 00:06:14,880 Speaker 4: you step stepped into the to the airline role. Now 116 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:18,120 Speaker 4: all I hear about is you changing the culture in 117 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:21,400 Speaker 4: a significant way. Structural changes at this airline in terms 118 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:24,200 Speaker 4: of the way that it operates. Taught me through some 119 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:26,359 Speaker 4: of the some of the metrics you're looking at in 120 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 4: terms of the effect that that is going to have. 121 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:31,680 Speaker 4: You're listening people's the way they work, You're giving them 122 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:34,120 Speaker 4: more autonomy. What effect is that going to have? What's 123 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:35,320 Speaker 4: the effect is it going to have on things like 124 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:37,360 Speaker 4: job retention? Tall me through the numbers you're looking for. 125 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:40,080 Speaker 1: You know, what we are trying to achieve out of 126 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:43,160 Speaker 1: this is to make people, our people in the company 127 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:47,560 Speaker 1: feel that they're listened to and they're part of the 128 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 1: decision and they're not scared or stressed to speak up 129 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:54,680 Speaker 1: their opinion. By the end of the day, we are 130 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:59,560 Speaker 1: getting the best the experts in each field in each area, 131 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 1: and this is what we want to do, basically, to 132 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:07,560 Speaker 1: have them talk about areas that matters for the company. 133 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:11,560 Speaker 1: This is on one side, so basically it's a culture 134 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:18,040 Speaker 1: of empowerment and trust and also basically holding people accountable 135 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:21,679 Speaker 1: and liable for decisions they make. On the other hand, 136 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:25,640 Speaker 1: we've noticed with some of the easement and some of 137 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:28,920 Speaker 1: the policies that we have in place for our staff 138 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:35,640 Speaker 1: that we see some good outcome of it. Previously, we 139 00:07:35,720 --> 00:07:39,200 Speaker 1: had a problem in certain areas with the attrition of 140 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:45,480 Speaker 1: ourself to us double digit person and percentage eighteen nineteen 141 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:51,320 Speaker 1: percent every month. This number dropped by seventy percent. So 142 00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:54,440 Speaker 1: people want to say in the company, people really appreciate 143 00:07:54,640 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 1: working for paper Airways and they see that their future 144 00:07:57,920 --> 00:07:59,840 Speaker 1: is with the best airline. 145 00:07:59,440 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 3: In the world. 146 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:02,520 Speaker 4: So staff retention is already improved significant. 147 00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:05,280 Speaker 3: Absolutely, yes, in terms. 148 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:06,880 Speaker 4: Of what that means in terms of your ability to 149 00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:09,760 Speaker 4: the live products and control costs. What effect have in 150 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:11,200 Speaker 4: terms of the bottom line. 151 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:12,720 Speaker 1: You know, by the end of the day, we're talking 152 00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:18,120 Speaker 1: about numbers. Last year we recorded again the highest profit 153 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 1: in the history of the company. This quarter we are 154 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:24,800 Speaker 1: recording the highest profit and the history of the first 155 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:30,320 Speaker 1: quarter and the company. We're talking about percentage wise triple 156 00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 1: digits compared to last year. So this is this is 157 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:38,160 Speaker 1: a prove that we're looking at revenue plus, looking at 158 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:43,080 Speaker 1: reducing costs and cutting costs wherever it is necessary, as 159 00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:46,000 Speaker 1: long as it will not affect the customer. 160 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:50,920 Speaker 3: Experience. I've got one final quick question. I'm going to 161 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:51,640 Speaker 3: get told off for this. 162 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:55,320 Speaker 4: Rwanda Rair and some of the South African airlines and 163 00:08:55,400 --> 00:08:56,240 Speaker 4: other areas. 164 00:08:56,960 --> 00:08:58,280 Speaker 3: Took me through what we're going to see in terms 165 00:08:58,320 --> 00:08:58,720 Speaker 3: of deals. 166 00:08:58,760 --> 00:09:02,000 Speaker 1: You know, I was I was hoping to announce our 167 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:08,880 Speaker 1: investment and in the South African Airline in this interview, however, 168 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:12,960 Speaker 1: because of some final stages. 169 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:16,120 Speaker 3: Which name are we talking about again? It's one of 170 00:09:16,400 --> 00:09:20,319 Speaker 3: three companies and I promise you you will be the 171 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:21,880 Speaker 3: personal I will be the person. 172 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:25,600 Speaker 4: I paraoma see casa away, sir, Thank you very much. 173 00:09:25,640 --> 00:09:25,960 Speaker 3: Indeed,