WEBVTT - Cowboys Break: Bryan’s Song

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<v Speaker 1>The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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<v Speaker 1>and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.

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<v Speaker 2>Cowboys, Let's go.

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<v Speaker 3>Are you ready for a break?

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<v Speaker 4>Yes?

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<v Speaker 3>Are you ready for a break?

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<v Speaker 5>Absolutely?

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<v Speaker 3>Ready for a break? Yeah, And so much for that.

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<v Speaker 1>It's time for the Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com.

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<v Speaker 3>We were on.

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<v Speaker 1>With mbar Garcia, Brian brought us, Nick Harris, and Derek Eagleton.

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<v Speaker 3>It is Tuesday, September seventeenth, twenty twenty four, Season twenty,

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<v Speaker 3>episode number thirty one. Welcome to the latest edition of

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<v Speaker 3>The Break. We're live from that WBC Mortgage Studios at

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<v Speaker 3>All right, let's go. We got lots of things we're

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<v Speaker 3>gonna get into today. Cowboys are into now starting to

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<v Speaker 3>flip the page from the debacle that was last Sunday

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<v Speaker 3>versus the Saints, and as of tomorrow, will start on

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<v Speaker 3>their preparation for the upcoming game against the Baltimore Ravens. Yesterday,

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<v Speaker 3>Mike McCarthy had his time with the media and there

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<v Speaker 3>were a couple of things that came out of that,

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<v Speaker 3>as well as Jerry Jones this morning on Sean RJ

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<v Speaker 3>and Bobby where he had a couple comments. But we'll

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<v Speaker 3>talk about a little bit a little bit about those things.

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<v Speaker 3>Brian in the second segment is going to have a

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<v Speaker 3>game for us. He's got some questions. We'll go into

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<v Speaker 3>the mind of Brian brought us. And then finally in

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<v Speaker 3>the third segment, we will take some time, much to

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<v Speaker 3>the chagrin of Amber, We'll take some time to let

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<v Speaker 3>you guys sound that means you didn't like the idea,

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<v Speaker 3>but we're gonna go anyway. And I really want to

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<v Speaker 3>advocate for our fans here and give him an opportunity

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<v Speaker 3>to call in and so you're justly and talk to us,

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<v Speaker 3>and you got to be able to call us.

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<v Speaker 2>Through this.

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<v Speaker 3>We want you to call us eight eight five five.

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<v Speaker 6>To you need to advocate for the fans. We will

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<v Speaker 6>try to make Tuesday a day that you can actually

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<v Speaker 6>reach out. Yes and Wolf, make Derek make time for

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<v Speaker 6>you guys, because ever since this podcast that NICKI what

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<v Speaker 6>does it call again?

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<v Speaker 4>Storyline?

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<v Speaker 7>Storyline?

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<v Speaker 3>You just want to take a shot at Nick storylines.

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<v Speaker 6>It's we can talk to the fans too. Okay, let's

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<v Speaker 6>give them a voice here.

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<v Speaker 3>We just can't give them T shirts.

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<v Speaker 6>Derek is too cheap, so he won't allow us to

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<v Speaker 6>come up with shirts to give away.

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<v Speaker 3>No, we only do shirts on storyline, and we only

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<v Speaker 3>do that once. All right, let's let's jump in. Let's

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<v Speaker 3>talk about Mike McCarthy. Yesterday, he had his time with

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<v Speaker 3>the media. One thing he talked about, uh, this was

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<v Speaker 3>a reaction to the loss. He said, we look like

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<v Speaker 3>a young, inexperienced football team, calling them veterans to make

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<v Speaker 3>an impact mentally and physically. Were the problems as you

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<v Speaker 3>went back and looked at it, were the problems that

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<v Speaker 3>you saw related to youth and an experience?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean when we went through we'd started talking

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<v Speaker 4>about miss blocks, guys stumbling on routes, you know, guys

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<v Speaker 4>not extending for the ball, left tackle, center, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>how about your how about Mayr Sleafal at linebacker? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>they got a lot of young guys playing, and that

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<v Speaker 4>was something I felt like that when he said it,

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<v Speaker 4>I it was a very clear picture that they are

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<v Speaker 4>relying on a lot of young guys to play, and

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<v Speaker 4>and that's no excuse, but young guys. They're going to

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<v Speaker 4>make mistakes. They're not going to get the blocks all

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<v Speaker 4>the time. They're not going to run the right routes

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<v Speaker 4>all the time. They're they're going to jump around blocks.

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<v Speaker 4>They're going to play like they're at Oklahoma or at

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<v Speaker 4>Notre Dame or South Carolina and into these other places

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<v Speaker 4>with those Yeah, yeah, you know, it's a little bit different.

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<v Speaker 4>So yeah, I think that if that's part of the

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<v Speaker 4>that's part of the the hazard of playing young guys

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<v Speaker 4>is they they will eventually go from being guys inexperience

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<v Speaker 4>to having experience, and you know, you hate to have

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<v Speaker 4>a game where, you know, but there was a there

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<v Speaker 4>was a lot wrong with really the whole team. It

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<v Speaker 4>wasn't just the young guys, but it was pretty evident

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<v Speaker 4>when you watch the tape that there were young guys

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<v Speaker 4>in positions or that they put in position to make

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<v Speaker 4>plays that for their first time, it was it was

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<v Speaker 4>a little bit of a daunting task.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, I give a lot of credit to all

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<v Speaker 6>these younger players and what they're doing. Again, you're you

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<v Speaker 6>took a gamble in the offseason. You took a gamble

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<v Speaker 6>during free agency and decided to go the drafting route

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<v Speaker 6>once again and rely on that. And that's a big

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<v Speaker 6>gamble that you take on putting hoping that these young

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<v Speaker 6>players can perform to the level that you need them

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<v Speaker 6>to perform. And just like Ryan mentioned, it's not it

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<v Speaker 6>wasn't just the young players. It was a collective thing

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<v Speaker 6>with everything exactly. But but the point is you knew

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<v Speaker 6>that going in. And I don't like to pressure these

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<v Speaker 6>young players and blame them and all that, because that's

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<v Speaker 6>completely unfair. I think they're doing a good job. There

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<v Speaker 6>is time for the development, growth and those kind of experiences.

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<v Speaker 7>You only get it through actual game day.

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<v Speaker 6>You can practice as much as you want on during

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<v Speaker 6>training camp, week to week practices, but the actual experience

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<v Speaker 6>and growth in that aspect just comes from actual game

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<v Speaker 6>day plays. And it's just that's that's what that's what

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<v Speaker 6>they're that's what they have, and that's what they got

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<v Speaker 6>to figure out and deal with. And it sucks to

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<v Speaker 6>be put in that situation, but there's no other way.

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<v Speaker 4>They eventually grow up. What you don't have is time, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>and and and and what happens when you're a draft

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<v Speaker 4>and developed team is you're always going to go this route.

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<v Speaker 4>You're not going to you know, and especially if you have, uh,

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<v Speaker 4>the players on your roster that are the top players

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<v Speaker 4>in the league, you're gonna have to play with a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of younger guys. And and that's the way it

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<v Speaker 4>really is around all the league. And you know, the coaches,

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<v Speaker 4>they they you know, they're they have a lot of

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<v Speaker 4>faith in these kids. They have a lot of faith.

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<v Speaker 4>And I mean when they talk about lea foul and

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<v Speaker 4>they I mean, I remember his visiting with Mike Zimmer

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<v Speaker 4>at training camp, like, gosh, this kid gets it. He

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<v Speaker 4>understands that he's he's talented, you know that. And you're

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<v Speaker 4>going on and on and on and and they you know,

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<v Speaker 4>and then he plays in the game and then you're

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<v Speaker 4>kind of like, man, he looked like he missed this reader,

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<v Speaker 4>he missed that reader, he missed this. And I'm just

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<v Speaker 4>saying him, I'm not.

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<v Speaker 3>In general just a Gerald.

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<v Speaker 4>There are a lot of guys like could say Brooks

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<v Speaker 4>is a really young guy. Everybody is saying, oh, well,

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<v Speaker 4>Brooks is better than Tolbert Brooks. You know, they kept

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<v Speaker 4>saying Brooks, Brooks, Brooks, and You're like going, okay, well,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, Tolbert has a little bit more experience. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>let's go with Brooks. And you know, you miss a

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<v Speaker 4>block on the edge, you get overpowered there by the

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<v Speaker 4>nickel corner, and then you do you fall down running

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<v Speaker 4>on an inside route, Well, you can't fall down. That's

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<v Speaker 4>to be an interception. Ninety percent of the time. If

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<v Speaker 4>you're running an inbreaking route and you fall down, somebody

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<v Speaker 4>in the middle fields can intercept that ball. But those

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<v Speaker 4>are experience he has. He's like, Okay, I've got to

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<v Speaker 4>be a little bit more controlled on my brakes. I

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<v Speaker 4>got to make sure that when I plant that I

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<v Speaker 4>don't stumble. And I think a lot of guys it

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<v Speaker 4>was a very eye opening game for a lot of guys.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, as much where where Guidon's eye opening moment

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<v Speaker 4>was in Cleveland last week. When you watch Miles Garrett rush,

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<v Speaker 4>you're like, going, damn, this is the NFL. I'm not

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<v Speaker 4>blocking somebody from you know, Louisiana Monroe or any you know,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm blocking real dudes here right now. You no offense

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<v Speaker 4>to Louisiana Monroe. But you do what I'm saying there.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, let's let's go on to a conversation that our

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<v Speaker 3>question that was asked about the effectiveness of the running game.

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<v Speaker 3>Mike McCarthy says, the run game is difficult. It's a

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<v Speaker 3>commitment to the run game. It's tough to play if

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<v Speaker 3>you don't play it all the time. But at the

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<v Speaker 3>end of the day, it all comes down to fundamentals.

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<v Speaker 3>Jerry followed up this morning when asked about the running games,

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<v Speaker 3>and he was specifically asked about Dalvin Cook. His respons was,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't necessarily see a change that would involve Cook

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<v Speaker 3>this week. My question for you guys is does Dallas

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<v Speaker 3>need more commitment to the run or do they need

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<v Speaker 3>different personnel, because it really is I try it. It

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<v Speaker 3>could be both.

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<v Speaker 4>I tried to help you in week one. I tried

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<v Speaker 4>to help you in week one with game in hand

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<v Speaker 4>and just go ahead and try and work on the

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<v Speaker 4>running game. You know, there could have been a commitment there.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, this is where sometimes coaches drive me nuts,

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<v Speaker 4>where you talk about there needs to be a commitment.

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<v Speaker 4>There could have been a commitment in the second half

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<v Speaker 4>of the Browns game with game in hand. You knew

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<v Speaker 4>they weren't coming back on you. You know, if you

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<v Speaker 4>run the ball, run the ball, run the ball, and

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<v Speaker 4>you keep going three and out with Okay, now you

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<v Speaker 4>have an idea, we committed it to fix. Yeah, we

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<v Speaker 4>now understand that. To me, the running game was not

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<v Speaker 4>a problem in this game. You know why, because there

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<v Speaker 4>was no need to go to the running game. You

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<v Speaker 4>were behind twenty one to three, twenty one to six,

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<v Speaker 4>twenty eight to you know it, just this, you never

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<v Speaker 4>got to stop to where you know, now if the

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<v Speaker 4>game would have would it would have been able to

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<v Speaker 4>if you'd got closed and had got tight and you okay,

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<v Speaker 4>we've got to run the ball here to to try

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<v Speaker 4>and you know, get first downs and stuff like that. Yeah, okay,

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<v Speaker 4>I get it. That's but you were so the score

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<v Speaker 4>was so whacked and you weren't gonna stop them. The

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<v Speaker 4>only way you had a chance of coming back in

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<v Speaker 4>this game is throwing the football. Last week was the

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<v Speaker 4>week to work on the running game when the game

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<v Speaker 4>was in hand. You know that, that to me was

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<v Speaker 4>the missed opportunity. Even Zach Martin said that, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>don't you don't have to believe me, failed NFL scout.

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<v Speaker 4>Believe the guy that's playing right guard for you, he's

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<v Speaker 4>the one. We might have missed an opportunity there, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>and all of a sudden if you, you know, maybe

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<v Speaker 4>we would have felt better about the running game if

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<v Speaker 4>all of a sudden, you're running against Cleveland at you know,

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<v Speaker 4>second half, and you're like, well, that's a pretty good

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<v Speaker 4>front seven you're running against right there. You know, now

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<v Speaker 4>we have this unknown feeling. We still have an unknown feeling,

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<v Speaker 4>even when we had a chance to maybe either say, hey,

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<v Speaker 4>this thing is going to be all right, or boy,

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<v Speaker 4>we're in an s load of trouble right now, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>and we don't know that. We're saying, well, you got

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<v Speaker 4>to be committed to it. Well, you could have committed

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<v Speaker 4>it to game in hand. You missed an opportunity there.

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<v Speaker 6>I think, yeah, that's exactly I mean, going into week three,

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<v Speaker 6>that's not an ideal situation to be in. And I

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<v Speaker 6>mean I would hope that we do see Dalvin Cook

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<v Speaker 6>going to this game, but because that at least gives you.

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<v Speaker 7>A new something to work with.

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<v Speaker 6>What you're putting on film right now, what you've put

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<v Speaker 6>on film this past two weeks. Who are you scary?

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<v Speaker 6>You're not scarying anybody. Like, no defensive coordinator is looking

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<v Speaker 6>at this game saying, oh man, we got to make

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<v Speaker 6>sure we stop them. From running the ball. It's not happening.

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<v Speaker 6>You haven't done it, you haven't shown or proved that

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<v Speaker 6>you can do it. And I've had faith going into

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<v Speaker 6>this game. I do still think that if they come

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<v Speaker 6>up with different ways to do it and be more

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<v Speaker 6>creative with it, that there is a possibility for these

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<v Speaker 6>running backs to be able to actually run the football

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<v Speaker 6>and be more effective than what they've been. But like

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<v Speaker 6>you say, Brian, they missed that chance week one, when

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<v Speaker 6>they the game, they had it in hand.

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<v Speaker 7>They could have tried different.

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<v Speaker 6>Things and have a better whether good or bad. Right,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, Okay, this is what we got and this

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<v Speaker 6>is what we can do. So again, hopefully this is

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<v Speaker 6>a week where we do see despite what Jerry Jones

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<v Speaker 6>commented and said, I hope we do see Darvin Cook

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<v Speaker 6>go in there and hopefully he's in good shape. He

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<v Speaker 6>is in good shape, he's healthy, but hopefully he can

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<v Speaker 6>add some spark and bring something else to the run game.

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<v Speaker 4>We're all learning about these metrics when you have backs,

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<v Speaker 4>but it's not just Zeke. When you have backs that

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<v Speaker 4>have not made anybody miss, that's a metric. That's the

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<v Speaker 4>stat they keep missed, you know, make people miss Dallas

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<v Speaker 4>both backs neither one. I think vond three.

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<v Speaker 3>I had seven last week, right, seven in game two?

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<v Speaker 4>Right, So you have in the game where you don't

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<v Speaker 4>have anybody miss and then all of a sudden, look

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<v Speaker 4>at ten yard runs. You know you're near the bottom

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<v Speaker 4>of the league in that. So to me, this week

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<v Speaker 4>was a you weren't going to run because there was

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<v Speaker 4>no reason to run. You were you were too far behind.

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<v Speaker 4>You're playing catchup. So it's still now here. We go

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<v Speaker 4>into week three and there's that that unknown factor. If

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<v Speaker 4>you run the ball, you're like, okay, great, But now

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<v Speaker 4>it's kind of like, well, how committed he talks about

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<v Speaker 4>being committed? How committed are you going to be? You

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<v Speaker 4>know going forward? That that's what bothers me out. Coaches

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<v Speaker 4>they say you have to be committed. Well, Mike, you

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<v Speaker 4>can make that call. You're the primary play caller. You

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<v Speaker 4>look down your play card and you say, okay, today

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<v Speaker 4>this series, I'm going to try this, I'm going to

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<v Speaker 4>try this, I'm going to do that, And you know,

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know, It's just I don't know why you'd

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<v Speaker 4>want to keep not knowing.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, also, in this game, I feel like how it's

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<v Speaker 6>going now it's starting to add that unnecessary pressure to

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<v Speaker 6>it where it's like, now maybe he sees himself being

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<v Speaker 6>forced to Okay, let's try to run the ball more,

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<v Speaker 6>even in situation where you don't necessarily want to. So

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<v Speaker 6>I think it starts with that added pressure. It starts

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<v Speaker 6>taking away from from the logic aspect of the game

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<v Speaker 6>and be more logical and the things in the plays

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<v Speaker 6>that you should run.

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<v Speaker 3>I will point this out Brian talking about those mistackles.

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<v Speaker 3>I think for this last game, Daddle, as I said,

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<v Speaker 3>had seven on four carries, which to me is not

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<v Speaker 3>a bad clip. That's a little better than what the

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<v Speaker 3>other guys are doing. You certainly want more, as you

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<v Speaker 3>were saying, we want more volume. I want to see

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<v Speaker 3>what that looks like if you get to fifteen carries

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<v Speaker 3>or twelve carries, even like having four carries is just

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<v Speaker 3>not enough. And I understand how the game played out,

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<v Speaker 3>but that did give me reason to believe that maybe

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<v Speaker 3>just make you and I can be right on this one,

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<v Speaker 3>that Donald can be a guy that can carry. They

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<v Speaker 3>just got to give him opportunity to do it.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I don't think you're gonna see Dalvin Cook. I

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<v Speaker 4>really don't I don't know how they get him up.

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<v Speaker 4>That's that's the thing that Jerry. I mean, they're probably

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<v Speaker 4>looking at other situations, at other positions and stuff, and

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<v Speaker 4>probably feeling far more pressed than having Dalvin Cook up.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you know, I don't think a lot.

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<v Speaker 4>Of Dalvin Cook might be a break glass in case

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<v Speaker 4>of emergency. Guy and I you know they I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>They probably don't look at it that way right now.

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<v Speaker 3>And quite frankly, as the season goes on again, I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know that any of these backs are the type

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<v Speaker 3>that really put fear, as you said, Amber in opposing defense.

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<v Speaker 3>So maybe the thought is hold Dalvin and it just

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<v Speaker 3>gives a new wrinkle later in the season as you

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<v Speaker 3>make if you need him or if you don't need him,

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<v Speaker 3>it's just a new rink.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I don't I don't know, to be honest with you,

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know if we can if I don't know

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<v Speaker 4>about the back. I think I have an idea about

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<v Speaker 4>the backs. I don't know about the line. I think

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<v Speaker 4>this running game could be really good because maybe the backs,

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<v Speaker 4>but the line could be awful, you know, Or it

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<v Speaker 4>could be a really good running game with the line

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<v Speaker 4>and the backs are not any good. That was my fear,

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<v Speaker 4>that that they were going to be able to create

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<v Speaker 4>lanes and holes and gaps and stuff, but they weren't

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<v Speaker 4>able to get somebody to and through the hole. That

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<v Speaker 4>was that was my big issue. There's so many still

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<v Speaker 4>we don't even know.

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<v Speaker 3>There's so many question marks when you think about the

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<v Speaker 3>offensive line and you think about the backs that it's

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<v Speaker 3>like everything has to go right right, There's so many

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<v Speaker 3>question marks, so many things that are not what you

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<v Speaker 3>thought they were, or you just didn't know because you

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<v Speaker 3>didn't have the experience of knowing. All right, let's go

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<v Speaker 3>ahead and uh and take our first break. We'll come back.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll get into the mind of Brian brought us. He's

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<v Speaker 3>got some great questions for us. We'll be back Dallas

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<v Speaker 3>go into the mind of Brian brought us which you

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<v Speaker 3>got for us.

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<v Speaker 4>I got a few questions for you guys, and I

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<v Speaker 4>know you guys will give me some good answers, So

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<v Speaker 4>here we go. Ag. I'll start with you, did Tolbert's

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<v Speaker 4>overall play make you feel better about the receivers behind lamb.

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<v Speaker 7>Um better than last year?

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<v Speaker 6>Yes, if we're comparing it, if we're using something to

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<v Speaker 6>compare it with, I think Tolbert has taken a step

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<v Speaker 6>up in his in the way that he plays branding Cooks.

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<v Speaker 6>He's still branding Cooks, and I mean he's still very

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<v Speaker 6>talented and skilled and fast and everything, and Tolbert, he

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<v Speaker 6>he's grown. And I would say, like if you look

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<v Speaker 6>at what happened last year, the way he played, and

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<v Speaker 6>also what they had in Michael Gallup last year, which

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<v Speaker 6>was not much. He never recovered from really from that

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<v Speaker 6>injury and what he was dealing with. But this year

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<v Speaker 6>and even some of the plays that we saw this

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<v Speaker 6>past weekend, I thought he's playing with more confidence, more

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<v Speaker 6>he's more assertive in the decisions that he's making. He

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<v Speaker 6>still needs to be better, but I think he I

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<v Speaker 6>feel a lot more comfortable with the receivers right now

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<v Speaker 6>behind Ceedy Land.

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<v Speaker 4>Do his overall play in that game make you feel

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<v Speaker 4>better about the receivers behind Lamb.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a two part question for me. I'm a two

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<v Speaker 3>point answer for me. I think I feel better about

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<v Speaker 3>the third wide receiver position than what I felt last

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<v Speaker 3>year about Michael Gallup. I still feel like the wide

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<v Speaker 3>receiver position isn't getting what it needs from Brandon Cooks

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<v Speaker 3>because I look at that and I'm like, giving him

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<v Speaker 3>two opportunities in a game where you're down by as

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<v Speaker 3>much as you were that. To me, you're not utilizing him.

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<v Speaker 7>You need he needs. I was gonna say, I mean,

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<v Speaker 7>are you putting it on him?

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<v Speaker 3>No, no, this is not this is not on him.

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<v Speaker 3>He has what happened at two targets, right, he had

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<v Speaker 3>two targets and two catches for nineteen yards, So it

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<v Speaker 3>ain't on him. And what I will say is what

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know, and I'll have to I'll have to

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<v Speaker 3>defer on this one because I haven't still a chance

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<v Speaker 3>to get to my film yet.

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<v Speaker 7>Come on, crazy, system isn't working.

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<v Speaker 3>But but I haven't been able to see was he

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<v Speaker 3>not getting open? Where there are bad routes? I know

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<v Speaker 3>at least one player I saw in real time he

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<v Speaker 3>was wide open. Now the playmate, now I've been to

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<v Speaker 3>designed for him, so I get all that. But but

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<v Speaker 3>but my point is, I think there are opportunities that

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<v Speaker 3>I think are being left on the field when it

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<v Speaker 3>comes to Brandon Cooks. And to me, that's where I

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<v Speaker 3>want to see more for the receiver position. I'm glad.

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<v Speaker 3>I think the third wide receiver position, I think you've

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<v Speaker 3>upgraded from what you were getting out of Michael Gallup

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<v Speaker 3>at the point at the end of his career, and

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<v Speaker 3>so I do think that improves, but they got to

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<v Speaker 3>get more. They got to figure out how to get

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<v Speaker 3>Cooks more involved in.

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<v Speaker 4>The Cooks was he was open and some of those

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<v Speaker 4>and that just doesn't always get him the ball. That's

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<v Speaker 4>something that's it's it's it's mind blowing.

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<v Speaker 3>Sometimes his speed is a difference maker.

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<v Speaker 4>It is difference maker, it really really is. And the

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<v Speaker 4>thing the only issue that I had with Tolbert in

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<v Speaker 4>that game, I wish the ball he would just extend

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<v Speaker 4>it for that ball went right before the half when

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<v Speaker 4>Dak threw it to him along the sideline. Yeah, by

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<v Speaker 4>waiting on the ball, he let Tyron Matthew have a

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<v Speaker 4>run at him, you know. And if he if he

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<v Speaker 4>extends it, secures it, then gets down or gets out

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<v Speaker 4>of bounce, maybe he doesn't take that hit. Then I mean,

0:22:00.920 --> 0:22:03.080
<v Speaker 4>that's a big play right there. Now, you you know,

0:22:03.200 --> 0:22:05.680
<v Speaker 4>now you've got yourself into position where you can throw

0:22:05.680 --> 0:22:07.840
<v Speaker 4>it at the end zone. A couple of plays later,

0:22:07.880 --> 0:22:10.639
<v Speaker 4>what happens they throw the interception, you know, and so

0:22:11.400 --> 0:22:13.560
<v Speaker 4>you kind of needed to make that play, you know,

0:22:13.840 --> 0:22:16.480
<v Speaker 4>just just extend your hands, reach for the ball, don't

0:22:16.520 --> 0:22:19.000
<v Speaker 4>wait for it to get to you and then try

0:22:19.000 --> 0:22:20.879
<v Speaker 4>and do something with it. But that was really the

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<v Speaker 4>only one where I felt like that he kind of

0:22:23.520 --> 0:22:26.320
<v Speaker 4>lets you down on a play. Other than that, all.

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<v Speaker 6>Of those catches that he had to me, I guess

0:22:28.280 --> 0:22:30.879
<v Speaker 6>maybe because my expectations are lower based on what I

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<v Speaker 6>saw last.

0:22:31.440 --> 0:22:33.639
<v Speaker 7>Year, but I was like, oh, okay, there you go.

0:22:33.800 --> 0:22:37.440
<v Speaker 4>Well it was very gallup, like yeah, that vertical pass

0:22:37.600 --> 0:22:38.600
<v Speaker 4>like that, but he.

0:22:38.520 --> 0:22:40.320
<v Speaker 3>Gave you some plays in world there were harder catches

0:22:40.400 --> 0:22:42.520
<v Speaker 3>to make, so I was happy with what he did

0:22:42.600 --> 0:22:43.080
<v Speaker 3>in this game.

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<v Speaker 4>Derek, I'm coming back to you on this one. Do

0:22:45.760 --> 0:22:48.240
<v Speaker 4>you feel as if you can now rely on Luke's

0:22:48.240 --> 0:22:49.680
<v Speaker 4>schoon maker from what you saw?

0:22:53.359 --> 0:22:55.399
<v Speaker 3>Well, let me say this, I think I think for

0:22:55.520 --> 0:22:58.800
<v Speaker 3>what he was asked to asked to do this game,

0:22:59.560 --> 0:23:02.880
<v Speaker 3>I thought it was pretty good. I think he gave

0:23:02.960 --> 0:23:05.600
<v Speaker 3>you He gave the quarterback an outlet in situations where

0:23:05.600 --> 0:23:06.800
<v Speaker 3>you need to be able to get the ball to

0:23:06.840 --> 0:23:10.359
<v Speaker 3>the tight end. So from that standpoint, I think he

0:23:10.480 --> 0:23:15.200
<v Speaker 3>was fine. I still don't think he has that ability

0:23:15.240 --> 0:23:19.240
<v Speaker 3>that that that we've grown accustomed to with being able

0:23:19.240 --> 0:23:21.760
<v Speaker 3>to catch up the stuff that you can get where

0:23:21.760 --> 0:23:23.280
<v Speaker 3>you get the ball in his hands and all of

0:23:23.280 --> 0:23:25.359
<v Speaker 3>a sudden he turns up Phil. He's supposed to be tackled,

0:23:25.359 --> 0:23:27.920
<v Speaker 3>but he's not tackled. He's still running. I think that's

0:23:27.960 --> 0:23:29.679
<v Speaker 3>the part that I think we're missing a little bit

0:23:29.720 --> 0:23:32.919
<v Speaker 3>without Ferguson, and I would want to see that again.

0:23:33.119 --> 0:23:36.080
<v Speaker 3>If you talk about my expectations of what I would

0:23:36.119 --> 0:23:38.200
<v Speaker 3>have thought for a second round tight end would be,

0:23:38.440 --> 0:23:40.480
<v Speaker 3>I would get a little bit more of that. But

0:23:40.880 --> 0:23:43.879
<v Speaker 3>all things being considered, it's a step in the right direction.

0:23:43.960 --> 0:23:46.280
<v Speaker 3>He's growing in the right direction, and you talk about

0:23:46.320 --> 0:23:48.440
<v Speaker 3>it all the time. I mean, we have veried tight

0:23:48.520 --> 0:23:49.160
<v Speaker 3>ends around.

0:23:48.960 --> 0:23:51.119
<v Speaker 4>Him over the years, and then it takes it.

0:23:51.400 --> 0:23:53.440
<v Speaker 3>Just takes a little bit of time and then eventually

0:23:53.520 --> 0:23:56.400
<v Speaker 3>they get it. So I'm very happy with the progress

0:23:56.560 --> 0:23:58.400
<v Speaker 3>of what I saw in this game versus what I've

0:23:58.400 --> 0:23:59.679
<v Speaker 3>been seeing before.

0:24:00.320 --> 0:24:02.840
<v Speaker 4>You feel that if you can now rely on Luke

0:24:02.920 --> 0:24:03.720
<v Speaker 4>schoon Maker.

0:24:03.480 --> 0:24:04.359
<v Speaker 3>A little more.

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<v Speaker 6>For a game, sure don't extend the past that I

0:24:11.080 --> 0:24:13.840
<v Speaker 6>will say. I do give him credit because he has

0:24:14.720 --> 0:24:18.600
<v Speaker 6>developed and despite all the little injuries here and there

0:24:18.680 --> 0:24:21.120
<v Speaker 6>that he's dealt with since the moment he got here,

0:24:21.440 --> 0:24:28.119
<v Speaker 6>he's maintained his will to participate, to learn to do

0:24:28.160 --> 0:24:30.800
<v Speaker 6>what he can in part of the recovery and I

0:24:30.920 --> 0:24:34.040
<v Speaker 6>miss out whatever is happening on the field. But at

0:24:34.080 --> 0:24:36.440
<v Speaker 6>the same time, I'm totally with Derek and what you said.

0:24:37.680 --> 0:24:41.560
<v Speaker 6>You still don't have that level of athleticism that you

0:24:41.600 --> 0:24:44.360
<v Speaker 6>get with the guy like Jake Ferguson, So you are

0:24:44.440 --> 0:24:49.000
<v Speaker 6>missing that spark in that dynamic in the offense. But

0:24:49.280 --> 0:24:52.120
<v Speaker 6>I think he's a guy like you can rely on

0:24:53.160 --> 0:25:00.720
<v Speaker 6>emergency type of same scenario of like Cooper rush you, you don't.

0:25:01.280 --> 0:25:05.879
<v Speaker 3>I mean, I think that's actually a good.

0:25:05.880 --> 0:25:08.520
<v Speaker 6>You're good for like a couple of games, but don't

0:25:08.520 --> 0:25:10.920
<v Speaker 6>make it a habit. You know, let's let's let's get

0:25:10.920 --> 0:25:13.560
<v Speaker 6>our starter back and healthy and back in there. Because

0:25:13.600 --> 0:25:16.000
<v Speaker 6>he just elevates and he just it takes the offense

0:25:16.080 --> 0:25:16.760
<v Speaker 6>to another level.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I like how you put that because essentially what

0:25:18.720 --> 0:25:21.320
<v Speaker 3>you're saying is he's not gonna hurt you, Like, he'll

0:25:21.359 --> 0:25:23.440
<v Speaker 3>be fine. He can play the role, he can give

0:25:23.440 --> 0:25:25.560
<v Speaker 3>you a little something. He's not gonna hurt you. He

0:25:25.600 --> 0:25:28.800
<v Speaker 3>may not be the difference in a win versus a loss,

0:25:29.040 --> 0:25:30.680
<v Speaker 3>but he certainly isn't going to hurt you. And that's

0:25:30.720 --> 0:25:30.960
<v Speaker 3>a good.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah. I think in this game he was always like

0:25:33.359 --> 0:25:36.439
<v Speaker 4>to say that he was a plus player, and you know,

0:25:36.560 --> 0:25:39.520
<v Speaker 4>sometimes if you're a negative player, you're you're you're gonna

0:25:39.520 --> 0:25:41.840
<v Speaker 4>get beat with a negative player. I feel like in

0:25:41.880 --> 0:25:45.080
<v Speaker 4>this game he was a plus player that he wasn't

0:25:45.119 --> 0:25:47.600
<v Speaker 4>doing anything that was getting you killed. In this game,

0:25:47.640 --> 0:25:49.440
<v Speaker 4>he wasn't making his job.

0:25:49.600 --> 0:25:51.320
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I can ask you this question. Sure, and I

0:25:51.359 --> 0:25:53.360
<v Speaker 3>assume you've gotten access to the film at this point.

0:25:53.359 --> 0:25:57.199
<v Speaker 3>I don't know how right I'm like, but anyway, what

0:25:57.240 --> 0:25:58.440
<v Speaker 3>if you what do you see from him from the

0:25:58.440 --> 0:25:59.280
<v Speaker 3>standpoint of blocking.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, there was a couple of times where they ran

0:26:01.280 --> 0:26:03.440
<v Speaker 4>you know, they ran the reverse with it down down

0:26:03.440 --> 0:26:06.040
<v Speaker 4>in the red zone where he or actually assume it

0:26:06.080 --> 0:26:08.959
<v Speaker 4>was the flip play that they made with Zeke. They

0:26:08.960 --> 0:26:11.040
<v Speaker 4>tried to run kind of the option and it was

0:26:11.080 --> 0:26:13.520
<v Speaker 4>an example of him release and because they blocked the inman,

0:26:13.640 --> 0:26:15.080
<v Speaker 4>they let the in man on the line of scrimmage

0:26:15.119 --> 0:26:17.320
<v Speaker 4>go and then he was up on the second level.

0:26:17.760 --> 0:26:19.560
<v Speaker 4>He could do a pretty good job when he has

0:26:19.640 --> 0:26:22.240
<v Speaker 4>to play in space that way. You know, that's something

0:26:22.240 --> 0:26:24.720
<v Speaker 4>that if he comes off the ball, he can engage

0:26:24.800 --> 0:26:27.639
<v Speaker 4>and and and and hand fight that way, he's going

0:26:27.720 --> 0:26:31.520
<v Speaker 4>to have to work on the aspect of the of

0:26:31.960 --> 0:26:34.200
<v Speaker 4>getting his nose in there and and he will tribe.

0:26:34.280 --> 0:26:38.320
<v Speaker 4>He just doesn't have that snap right now. Where you

0:26:38.400 --> 0:26:41.080
<v Speaker 4>watch the way the Saints were blocking your edges with

0:26:41.200 --> 0:26:44.760
<v Speaker 4>their big guys. They you could see them getting you know,

0:26:44.800 --> 0:26:47.040
<v Speaker 4>they hook their guy, they get movement, they turn them,

0:26:47.040 --> 0:26:51.040
<v Speaker 4>and he's trying his best. His movements come from his

0:26:51.119 --> 0:26:54.240
<v Speaker 4>ability to move with so the guy's moving and then

0:26:54.480 --> 0:26:57.639
<v Speaker 4>he's moving with the guy. That's where he's at his best.

0:26:57.800 --> 0:27:00.440
<v Speaker 4>But to just come off the ball and this flat

0:27:00.520 --> 0:27:02.800
<v Speaker 4>back somebody and try and and get him out of

0:27:02.840 --> 0:27:08.520
<v Speaker 4>there right now, that's just not where he's at his game. Okay, uh,

0:27:08.640 --> 0:27:10.680
<v Speaker 4>I'll go with you on this one, Derek or who

0:27:10.600 --> 0:27:13.240
<v Speaker 4>would go first? Last time I was it was Derek.

0:27:13.280 --> 0:27:14.879
<v Speaker 4>I think I'll go with you Ambar on this one.

0:27:15.280 --> 0:27:17.040
<v Speaker 4>I'm trying to kind of back and forth here for

0:27:17.080 --> 0:27:20.919
<v Speaker 4>you talk too much. Should we amber? Should we be

0:27:20.960 --> 0:27:22.240
<v Speaker 4>concerned about Zach Martin?

0:27:24.640 --> 0:27:28.280
<v Speaker 7>You know, this thought had not crossed my mind.

0:27:28.640 --> 0:27:31.359
<v Speaker 4>That's why I am until.

0:27:31.240 --> 0:27:33.200
<v Speaker 3>We have died into the mind of Brian.

0:27:34.560 --> 0:27:36.560
<v Speaker 7>It's carrying there. I don't want to be there.

0:27:36.800 --> 0:27:41.240
<v Speaker 6>Take me out, take me back out.

0:27:41.520 --> 0:27:42.560
<v Speaker 7>It's a great question.

0:27:42.880 --> 0:27:48.400
<v Speaker 4>Because I've learned something. By the way, whenever you say

0:27:48.440 --> 0:27:51.720
<v Speaker 4>that's a great question, you're fishing for an answer.

0:27:51.800 --> 0:27:52.960
<v Speaker 3>Because it's a great question.

0:27:53.119 --> 0:27:55.359
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's hard when every time he hear space, well,

0:27:55.400 --> 0:27:58.040
<v Speaker 4>that's a great question, you're fishing for an answer.

0:27:58.359 --> 0:27:58.520
<v Speaker 3>Well.

0:27:58.840 --> 0:28:02.600
<v Speaker 6>I think we all new going into this season that

0:28:02.680 --> 0:28:06.560
<v Speaker 6>this might be Zach Martin's last year with the team.

0:28:06.760 --> 0:28:10.160
<v Speaker 6>I think that's a topic of conversation that was lightly

0:28:10.680 --> 0:28:15.680
<v Speaker 6>talked about earlier the like during training camp in that time,

0:28:16.760 --> 0:28:19.560
<v Speaker 6>so it is something to definitely consider. You see some

0:28:19.680 --> 0:28:22.679
<v Speaker 6>of the plays I even noticed a few times, and again,

0:28:23.320 --> 0:28:25.000
<v Speaker 6>Derek and I have not been able to watch the

0:28:25.040 --> 0:28:27.720
<v Speaker 6>freaking film because the system is not working.

0:28:27.920 --> 0:28:32.720
<v Speaker 4>It works for me. I don't know how, but it

0:28:32.840 --> 0:28:33.960
<v Speaker 4>knows not to mess with me.

0:28:34.320 --> 0:28:35.040
<v Speaker 1>In the game.

0:28:35.320 --> 0:28:39.000
<v Speaker 6>I did see live a few plays where it was

0:28:39.800 --> 0:28:43.120
<v Speaker 6>unlike Szack Martin, you know, like there were certain places.

0:28:42.880 --> 0:28:45.440
<v Speaker 4>There you see knocked the ball at his Dack's hands,

0:28:45.440 --> 0:28:47.880
<v Speaker 4>and then there was a crazy fumble that Tolbert recovered

0:28:48.560 --> 0:28:51.440
<v Speaker 4>that I didn't expect Zach Martin to kind of get

0:28:51.440 --> 0:28:53.360
<v Speaker 4>pushed in a way that could be closer.

0:28:54.920 --> 0:28:58.600
<v Speaker 6>It braces an eyebro. You're like Okay, I wouldn't expect

0:28:58.680 --> 0:29:01.840
<v Speaker 6>that from him. He displayed at such a high level

0:29:02.240 --> 0:29:07.160
<v Speaker 6>all throughout his career that anything that starts being lower

0:29:07.200 --> 0:29:09.200
<v Speaker 6>than that, you're like, all right, hold on, hold on,

0:29:09.600 --> 0:29:11.480
<v Speaker 6>don't get me wrong. He's still a guy that I

0:29:11.560 --> 0:29:13.920
<v Speaker 6>want all year long, and he's still a guy that's

0:29:13.960 --> 0:29:17.720
<v Speaker 6>gonna give you his best. But maybe and I don't

0:29:17.720 --> 0:29:19.680
<v Speaker 6>want to say this because it's too soon for me

0:29:19.760 --> 0:29:22.960
<v Speaker 6>to even speak those words out of my mouth, because

0:29:23.000 --> 0:29:27.880
<v Speaker 6>I highly respect him and I admire him, But it

0:29:27.960 --> 0:29:30.520
<v Speaker 6>is something to keep an eye on in the next

0:29:30.560 --> 0:29:34.360
<v Speaker 6>few weeks because it might be something that starts trending

0:29:34.480 --> 0:29:39.000
<v Speaker 6>that way. And not because nothing against him, but age

0:29:39.120 --> 0:29:40.840
<v Speaker 6>hits at a certain time.

0:29:40.960 --> 0:29:42.440
<v Speaker 7>You're giving so much to the.

0:29:42.440 --> 0:29:45.600
<v Speaker 6>Game that it's only natural that you you start missing

0:29:45.640 --> 0:29:47.320
<v Speaker 6>some of those those plays.

0:29:47.360 --> 0:29:50.400
<v Speaker 7>But let's let's keep an eye on that.

0:29:50.640 --> 0:29:50.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:29:50.960 --> 0:29:53.400
<v Speaker 3>I think part of it is you look at him

0:29:53.440 --> 0:29:55.640
<v Speaker 3>and you're like, when you have a player that plays,

0:29:55.640 --> 0:29:58.400
<v Speaker 3>it's such a high light their career. It's like it

0:29:58.480 --> 0:30:01.000
<v Speaker 3>happened with Tyron Smith, right. He plays at such a

0:30:01.080 --> 0:30:03.880
<v Speaker 3>high level that when he gets a little older and

0:30:04.400 --> 0:30:08.320
<v Speaker 3>he's not that player anymore, and now he's doing their

0:30:08.520 --> 0:30:11.440
<v Speaker 3>normal things that happen. To the normal exact and even

0:30:11.440 --> 0:30:14.400
<v Speaker 3>to the pro guard, he looks like a Pro Bowl

0:30:14.400 --> 0:30:16.840
<v Speaker 3>guard exactly exactly, and so you're like and so. But

0:30:17.080 --> 0:30:20.040
<v Speaker 3>but for us, we're like, well, wait, how did you

0:30:20.120 --> 0:30:24.000
<v Speaker 3>beat exactly like so? So it is very jarring to

0:30:24.120 --> 0:30:26.640
<v Speaker 3>see it, and I think that's part of what we're

0:30:26.680 --> 0:30:29.240
<v Speaker 3>what we're seeing right now. I don't think he's Zach

0:30:29.320 --> 0:30:32.800
<v Speaker 3>Martin from from early in his career when he was

0:30:33.120 --> 0:30:37.120
<v Speaker 3>absolutely the best offensive guard in the National Football League.

0:30:37.360 --> 0:30:40.120
<v Speaker 3>I don't think he's that necessarily anymore. But I will

0:30:40.160 --> 0:30:44.120
<v Speaker 3>still take him where he is right now, above the alternatives.

0:30:44.280 --> 0:30:46.200
<v Speaker 3>And I think you got some good guards on this team.

0:30:46.520 --> 0:30:49.360
<v Speaker 3>I still think I would take him above those guys

0:30:49.640 --> 0:30:51.440
<v Speaker 3>because I still think he's playing at a high level.

0:30:51.480 --> 0:30:53.600
<v Speaker 3>It's just not the highest level necessary.

0:30:53.600 --> 0:30:56.600
<v Speaker 6>It's more of us having to adjust our own personal

0:30:56.640 --> 0:30:58.240
<v Speaker 6>expectations of him.

0:30:58.280 --> 0:31:01.360
<v Speaker 7>And while we've been used to watching.

0:31:01.280 --> 0:31:03.480
<v Speaker 3>Right, that's the thing you got to remember, our offensive lineman.

0:31:03.520 --> 0:31:07.160
<v Speaker 3>It's you know, you could have seventy plays, Oh no,

0:31:07.320 --> 0:31:10.760
<v Speaker 3>you do everything right, and one or two and then

0:31:10.760 --> 0:31:12.600
<v Speaker 3>all of yeah, and then all of a sudden, you're like,

0:31:12.640 --> 0:31:14.760
<v Speaker 3>oh my gosh, what's happening with this player. But it's

0:31:14.840 --> 0:31:17.920
<v Speaker 3>like you look at the percentage, it's a pretty good game.

0:31:18.080 --> 0:31:20.680
<v Speaker 3>It depends on what happened on those one or two plays.

0:31:20.720 --> 0:31:23.000
<v Speaker 3>If quarterback got hurt, that's a horrible game.

0:31:22.880 --> 0:31:25.840
<v Speaker 4>Right, YEA sixty seven pluses and three minuses in the

0:31:25.840 --> 0:31:28.920
<v Speaker 4>one minus gotch you being right exactly? We have time

0:31:28.960 --> 0:31:31.800
<v Speaker 4>for one more question. Yeah, one more Okay, I'll ask

0:31:31.840 --> 0:31:36.280
<v Speaker 4>you this question, Derek is well, Mike Zimber, figure out

0:31:36.320 --> 0:31:39.360
<v Speaker 4>how to get over Shown on the field more in

0:31:39.480 --> 0:31:40.360
<v Speaker 4>base packages.

0:31:40.520 --> 0:31:42.640
<v Speaker 3>Hell yeah, it's going to happen. And the reason why

0:31:42.680 --> 0:31:45.000
<v Speaker 3>it's going to happen is number one, because I think

0:31:45.080 --> 0:31:48.719
<v Speaker 3>they all believe that Demarveion over Shown. It's a player,

0:31:49.280 --> 0:31:51.880
<v Speaker 3>and you find ways to get players on the field.

0:31:51.960 --> 0:31:53.800
<v Speaker 3>Sometimes you get into games, and Brian, you knows as

0:31:53.880 --> 0:31:56.120
<v Speaker 3>much as anybody, you get into games and you kind

0:31:56.120 --> 0:31:58.200
<v Speaker 3>of follow your game plan. Well, if we're in base,

0:31:58.280 --> 0:32:00.239
<v Speaker 3>you're not on the field, right and and and then

0:32:00.280 --> 0:32:02.480
<v Speaker 3>a team does something where they keep you in base

0:32:02.880 --> 0:32:06.560
<v Speaker 3>and you get in the game, you look at the statue,

0:32:06.600 --> 0:32:09.040
<v Speaker 3>you're like, he only played eighteen Okay, we ain't doing

0:32:09.080 --> 0:32:10.960
<v Speaker 3>that no more. Right, Now, let's mix him into the

0:32:10.960 --> 0:32:13.200
<v Speaker 3>base like. I think that'll be the way they look

0:32:13.240 --> 0:32:15.680
<v Speaker 3>at it. I think my expectation at least will be

0:32:15.760 --> 0:32:19.120
<v Speaker 3>that going forward, he'll be a part of some base packages.

0:32:19.440 --> 0:32:21.280
<v Speaker 3>They will figure out ways to get him on the

0:32:21.320 --> 0:32:23.880
<v Speaker 3>field rather than have him on the sideline, just because

0:32:23.920 --> 0:32:26.280
<v Speaker 3>here was kind of our game plan into this one.

0:32:26.400 --> 0:32:28.000
<v Speaker 3>Another team does this to us, We're going to figure

0:32:28.000 --> 0:32:29.160
<v Speaker 3>out a way to get him on the field. That's

0:32:29.160 --> 0:32:29.800
<v Speaker 3>how I look at it.

0:32:29.960 --> 0:32:33.200
<v Speaker 6>I like that, but I agree, and it's something like,

0:32:33.240 --> 0:32:36.160
<v Speaker 6>how can you not after you go in, come back

0:32:36.160 --> 0:32:38.680
<v Speaker 6>into the building and watch film and're like okay, And

0:32:38.720 --> 0:32:41.600
<v Speaker 6>then the times that he has been on the field again,

0:32:41.800 --> 0:32:43.840
<v Speaker 6>this past game wasn't a great game.

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<v Speaker 7>We all saw that. We all witnessed what we saw.

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<v Speaker 6>But you can't take away that he has been pretty

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<v Speaker 6>impressive so far, given that he was out a whole

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<v Speaker 6>year coming back in and he's been explosive, He moves

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<v Speaker 6>around so well, he's doing He's playing so much better

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<v Speaker 6>than what I thought he would be. I thought he

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<v Speaker 6>would take him a few more weeks to kind of

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<v Speaker 6>get going, but he's been so good overall. Again, taken

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<v Speaker 6>to kind of consideration, what happened last week and everybody

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<v Speaker 6>play bad, but he's still very athletic. And again, I

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<v Speaker 6>think that after you look at the game, watch film

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<v Speaker 6>and see the overall results, there's no way that you

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<v Speaker 6>cannot be like, Okay, let's figure out how to keep

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<v Speaker 6>him more man.

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<v Speaker 4>They love Luifell, they love they love him, and it

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<v Speaker 4>might be because of his spot. So I will be

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<v Speaker 4>interested to see. I think you guys are going down

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<v Speaker 4>the right path. I'll be interested if they if they

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<v Speaker 4>if they adjusted though that quick.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna tell you this and I'm gonna throw this.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna save this question for tomorrow when we talk

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<v Speaker 3>about the Cowboys defense and how they match up against Baltimore.

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<v Speaker 3>But should there be a consideration at some point to

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<v Speaker 3>where you get over shown more on the field in

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<v Speaker 3>favor of maybe having on the side. That's a question

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<v Speaker 3>that we should talk about, absolutely, because I do think

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<v Speaker 3>that there's some there's some thought there, there's who are

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<v Speaker 3>the guys that should be on the field. How much

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<v Speaker 3>I think there's some conversation.

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<v Speaker 4>You absolutely that, like you say, if they're gonna they

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<v Speaker 4>probably will it will see because the Ravens are a

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<v Speaker 4>team that will get into the twenty one and twenty

0:34:17.480 --> 0:34:20.120
<v Speaker 4>two personnel stuff. And if that's the case, how do

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<v Speaker 4>they respond this way? They play their base defense that way.

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<v Speaker 4>But I think it's I think it's gonna happen. I

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<v Speaker 4>don't know if it's gonna be this week or how soon.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we'll talk about that tomorrow. Thank you, all right, Brian,

0:34:32.120 --> 0:34:34.520
<v Speaker 3>appreciate that that was good, good segment, good questions. They're

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<v Speaker 3>good answers.

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<v Speaker 7>Amber you too, Derek Eingleton.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you. I appreciate that. It's nice to hear compliments.

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<v Speaker 3>This time's coming from.

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<v Speaker 3>and East Texas. Keith.

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<v Speaker 16>What up, guys, Brian. Some things for y'all to think about.

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<v Speaker 16>If you're talking about the younger players, we are looking

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<v Speaker 16>at JK. Dobbins leading the league for one point one million.

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<v Speaker 16>Zeke is down in the twenties for three million. Tobert

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<v Speaker 16>had to come back for that ball and make an

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<v Speaker 16>incredible catch. That ball was underthrown and he was starting

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<v Speaker 16>to separate. The ball was thrown at Zeke's feet for

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<v Speaker 16>a touch for a possible touchdown, possible touchdown to CD

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<v Speaker 16>which if he had been led on the inside, the

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<v Speaker 16>ball was overthrown into the outside. We know that Jerry

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<v Speaker 16>had no choice.

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<v Speaker 2>But to give Dak the money.

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<v Speaker 16>My question to you guys, had he given them the

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<v Speaker 16>money that they were going to get anyway and did

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<v Speaker 16>get early restructured, you could have gotten some players if

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<v Speaker 16>you were really all in so pounding on these young guys.

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<v Speaker 16>Nobody ever mentions Terrence still had a horrible year last year,

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<v Speaker 16>and he had a sack the other day. But we're

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<v Speaker 16>talking about the young I get frustrated with his picking

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<v Speaker 16>on the young guys. He likes the young guys because

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<v Speaker 16>they're cheaper. Let's be honest, Well, I don't.

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<v Speaker 4>Think we're picking on the young guys at all. I

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<v Speaker 4>think that you know that Mike McCarthy brought it up

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<v Speaker 4>in his press conference yesterday, and we're just commenting on

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<v Speaker 4>the fact that they are playing with a lot of

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<v Speaker 4>young guys, and when you play with young guys, you're

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<v Speaker 4>potentially going to have mistakes. I don't think we were

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<v Speaker 4>going after any of these kids.

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<v Speaker 3>And not only that, let's also mention yesterday when we

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<v Speaker 3>talked about on the show. There were plenty of veteran

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<v Speaker 3>guys and Brian you Ms earlier veteran guys that have

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<v Speaker 3>problems yesterday. Absolutely, this was not a this was not

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<v Speaker 3>just a young guy problem. Quite frankly, the young guys

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<v Speaker 3>are the part you feel better about because you feel

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<v Speaker 3>like they're going to be better. That's what's talking about.

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<v Speaker 3>Better guys are the ones I'm a little more worried about,

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<v Speaker 3>Like when you got those defensive tackles Phillips and and

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<v Speaker 3>and Lynn Vald Joseph and the play games that they played. Sure,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm a little more concerned about them than I am

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<v Speaker 3>a young guy, But I do want to also point

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<v Speaker 3>out something real quick. On that play you mentioned that

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<v Speaker 3>the caller mentioned about he should have led Lamb. It's

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<v Speaker 3>it's since that time, there's been some conversations that have

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<v Speaker 3>made it pretty apparent that it was the wrong route,

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<v Speaker 3>like he should have stayed more upfield, and Dak was

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<v Speaker 3>throwing to the spot he should have been throwing to,

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<v Speaker 3>so I'd be careful throwing that one on the Dak ledger. Yes,

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<v Speaker 3>Dak missed Zeke on that throw, and Dak wasn't perfect yesterday,

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<v Speaker 3>but on that particular pass. I would be careful giving

0:40:20.120 --> 0:40:22.600
<v Speaker 3>that on giving that to dak Ye. All right, let's

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<v Speaker 3>get a call from Carmen in New Jersey. There, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>what's up.

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<v Speaker 16>How are you doing good?

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<v Speaker 2>How are you good?

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<v Speaker 4>You're on the air, sir.

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<v Speaker 17>I'm sorry. I agree with everything you guys say, the

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<v Speaker 17>top notch. The only thing is, I know we're worried

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<v Speaker 17>about running backs and wide receivers. I just can't see

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<v Speaker 17>us doing anything but stopping to run unless we get

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<v Speaker 17>a better DT. What do you think?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, thanks for Carl.

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<v Speaker 4>He feels like that. And this is the general managers

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<v Speaker 4>thoughts this morning was that he they feel like that

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<v Speaker 4>they have the personnel to be able to play now.

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<v Speaker 4>And I've said this yesterday. I've said on a couple

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<v Speaker 4>of different platforms. Now, if you don't protect these linebackers,

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<v Speaker 4>you're not going to be a very good run defense

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<v Speaker 4>because I don't think you're gonna be able to add anything.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, And if I steered you wrong about Jordan Phillips,

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<v Speaker 4>I apologize to you guys for that. But the the

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<v Speaker 4>things that you know with Joseph and you know and

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<v Speaker 4>and and you know Phillips and guys like that and

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<v Speaker 4>Mazy and and Osa. You know, yeah, they've got to

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<v Speaker 4>do a better job because your your your key to

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<v Speaker 4>stop in the run is going to be your linebackers'

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<v Speaker 4>ability to free up and go get the ball. You know.

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<v Speaker 4>But if they're dealing with blockers all day, and there's

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<v Speaker 4>certain amount of blockers that are going to have to

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<v Speaker 4>deal with in games. But if you just let linemen

0:41:46.520 --> 0:41:50.560
<v Speaker 4>have free run at your linebackers, it doesn't matter. You

0:41:50.600 --> 0:41:54.200
<v Speaker 4>could have you could have Aaron Donald playing defensive tackle.

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<v Speaker 4>It ain't gonna matter, you know, because your your linebackers

0:41:57.800 --> 0:41:59.520
<v Speaker 4>are going to be the key to this defense. And

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<v Speaker 4>when you're gonna play a good run defense, it's gonna

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<v Speaker 4>be it's gonna be Kendrick's playing downhill. It's gonna be

0:42:04.800 --> 0:42:08.520
<v Speaker 4>lea foul playing downhill. It's gonna be Overshown playing down hill.

0:42:08.520 --> 0:42:11.799
<v Speaker 4>It's gonna be Micah when he's off ball linebacker playing downhill.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, that's where this thing is going to have

0:42:14.320 --> 0:42:16.640
<v Speaker 4>to get better, because you're not going to be able

0:42:16.680 --> 0:42:19.680
<v Speaker 4>to go out and add a defensive tackle. And you know,

0:42:20.000 --> 0:42:22.600
<v Speaker 4>to to their credit, yes, you have to give them

0:42:22.680 --> 0:42:25.880
<v Speaker 4>they forever were never going to draft a defensive tackle

0:42:25.920 --> 0:42:28.399
<v Speaker 4>in the first round. It just so happens that they

0:42:28.440 --> 0:42:31.719
<v Speaker 4>have one right now that's really really struggling. That's you know,

0:42:32.040 --> 0:42:34.440
<v Speaker 4>the you know, they tried, they tried, they they it

0:42:34.520 --> 0:42:37.359
<v Speaker 4>looks like at this point in time that they might

0:42:37.400 --> 0:42:39.439
<v Speaker 4>not have got the right guy. You know, let's see

0:42:39.440 --> 0:42:42.839
<v Speaker 4>what happens. But uh, you know it's they they made

0:42:42.880 --> 0:42:45.319
<v Speaker 4>an effort to do it. And you'll say, well, damn

0:42:45.360 --> 0:42:46.640
<v Speaker 4>brought us. They went out and got a bunch of

0:42:46.760 --> 0:42:50.080
<v Speaker 4>cheap dudes at the end in August and all said, well,

0:42:50.360 --> 0:42:52.920
<v Speaker 4>I hate to say this, but maybe it can have

0:42:52.920 --> 0:42:55.200
<v Speaker 4>even been worse than what we saw the other day.

0:42:55.200 --> 0:42:56.600
<v Speaker 4>If you were playing with some of the guys that

0:42:56.640 --> 0:42:58.719
<v Speaker 4>you were going to plan on playing with, it could

0:42:58.719 --> 0:43:01.200
<v Speaker 4>have that could have maybe been a lot worse. So

0:43:01.440 --> 0:43:05.040
<v Speaker 4>if you don't keep these linebackers free, it doesn't matter.

0:43:05.080 --> 0:43:06.800
<v Speaker 4>You won't be able to play any run defense.

0:43:06.840 --> 0:43:08.840
<v Speaker 3>And quite frankly, I think that's across the league. I

0:43:08.840 --> 0:43:11.000
<v Speaker 3>think that's just the nature defense. If your linebackers are

0:43:11.000 --> 0:43:13.680
<v Speaker 3>fighting offensive lineman all day, all, that's going to be

0:43:13.719 --> 0:43:16.600
<v Speaker 3>a problems, be a problem. You've got to have guys

0:43:16.600 --> 0:43:18.440
<v Speaker 3>in the front that could eat up blocks that's really

0:43:18.600 --> 0:43:21.040
<v Speaker 3>especially for the Cowboys. You think about there, the strength

0:43:21.040 --> 0:43:23.640
<v Speaker 3>of their linebackers is their speed and their ability to

0:43:23.719 --> 0:43:26.520
<v Speaker 3>kind of get places. If they're fighting offensive lineman all day,

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<v Speaker 3>it will not be good.

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<v Speaker 4>It will not matter.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's get a one more phone call from blind Man

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<v Speaker 3>in North Carolina. Blindman, what what's up?

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<v Speaker 2>Hey? It's Greg. First time caller listening to Brian on

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<v Speaker 2>different platforms. I really love his show. Appreciate that, and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to say, damn, Brian, we've got a whole

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<v Speaker 2>bunch of old guys in August.

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<v Speaker 4>How about that we did?

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<v Speaker 2>You know? I just want to bring up one point.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, when you have everybody that works for you

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<v Speaker 2>on a deal that's going to end that year, I

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<v Speaker 2>expect him to go out with the best put to plan,

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<v Speaker 2>to coordinate, to coach. I mean, when you're scared of

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<v Speaker 2>losing your job from week to week, you can't expect

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<v Speaker 2>the best. And that's all I got. Thanks so much.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you know, I appreciate what you're saying, But you

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<v Speaker 4>go into this business not, you know, thinking that you

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<v Speaker 4>have any type of security. Think about the coordinators at

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<v Speaker 4>the Philadelphia Eagles last year. Both those guys probably had

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<v Speaker 4>three year deals. You know, ownership said.

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<v Speaker 3>Felt like that security.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Jeff Leury, you know, hey, we're gonna we're gonna

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<v Speaker 4>do this. You know, we're gonna. Yeah, we're gonna give

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<v Speaker 4>you the opportunity to come in and coach Brian Johnson

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<v Speaker 4>those guys. You know what happened first year, Both those

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<v Speaker 4>guys gone this league. There's no guarantees, there's no promises.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, you coach really year to year, you really do,

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<v Speaker 4>especially with the way that some of these front offices now.

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<v Speaker 4>The one thing here is, you know, this group is

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<v Speaker 4>pretty locked in when the cubs of the front office,

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<v Speaker 4>but they're locked in and they're locked in with the Giants.

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<v Speaker 4>They're locked in with Pittsburgh, they're locked in with Cincinnati.

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<v Speaker 4>They're a lot of teams that have the way that structure,

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<v Speaker 4>very similar structure to what you have here. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>So if you're a coach a scout, you do not

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<v Speaker 4>expect to have multiple years to get things done. You

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<v Speaker 4>just don't. You're always working with the darkness over you

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<v Speaker 4>that this could be your last day.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think also when you think about the psychology

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<v Speaker 3>of humans, there are kind of two phrases that we've

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<v Speaker 3>heard before when it comes to pressure, pressure bus pipes

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<v Speaker 3>and pressure makes diamonds right, And it depends on what

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<v Speaker 3>kind of person you are. You know, some people respond

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<v Speaker 3>to pressure in a positive way, some people respond to

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<v Speaker 3>pressure in a negative way. It just depends on what

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<v Speaker 3>kind of person you are. I don't know. I've haven't

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<v Speaker 3>had that experience with this particular group to know how

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<v Speaker 3>they're going to respond to it. But some people really

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<v Speaker 3>excel from that. And I know Jerry's talked about in

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<v Speaker 3>the past like sometimes he wants to create that kind

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<v Speaker 3>of pressure to see how people respond, and whether that's

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<v Speaker 3>the right approach or not. Who knows for this group.

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<v Speaker 3>What I'm saying is there is a possibility that Mike

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<v Speaker 3>McCarthy is the type that you give him that added pressure,

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<v Speaker 3>he's going to step up to the occasion. I just

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<v Speaker 3>don't know that.

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<v Speaker 6>I think it brings a different fire in you because

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<v Speaker 6>you either want to prove them wrong. And also, even

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<v Speaker 6>if it wasn't here, you're still having to show up

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<v Speaker 6>for something for those that might be able to hire you.

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<v Speaker 6>So it's just like with players coming out right right,

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<v Speaker 6>you got to present something good, regardless whether it is

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<v Speaker 6>to stay here or for somebody else to come in

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<v Speaker 6>and hire you. So I think it would it's completely different.

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<v Speaker 6>I think you performer at a different level. Rather than

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<v Speaker 6>having that job security that you're like, people would be like, oh,

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<v Speaker 6>well they're not going to lose their job.

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<v Speaker 7>They still they're still gonna be here regardless.

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<v Speaker 4>There's some satisfaction knowing that you did a job well

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<v Speaker 4>done despite feeling like the people who or your bosses

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<v Speaker 4>didn't feel like that you were going to be able

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<v Speaker 4>to do it. There's some satisfaction to that.

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<v Speaker 3>I appreciate you, guy, Joing. So we'll be back tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 3>We're gonna start diving into Cowboys versus Ravens. Brian will

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<v Speaker 3>have the breakdown of the Ravens offense versus the Dallas defense.

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<v Speaker 3>That will be a very interesting matchup. Till then, for

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<v Speaker 3>I'm brought us Ambergarci, I'm Derek Eagles and this has

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<v Speaker 3>been The Break live on Dallas Cowboys dot Com Radio.

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