1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,080 Speaker 1: Hey, this is samup this John. We're the ancient two 2 00:00:03,200 --> 00:00:06,400 Speaker 1: case Storytime podcast hosts, and we have some ancient wisdom 3 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:08,360 Speaker 1: in the stories coming up. If you want to hear 4 00:00:08,400 --> 00:00:11,239 Speaker 1: the wisdom from two old heads that know more than 5 00:00:11,280 --> 00:00:13,040 Speaker 1: they know what to do with, you're'd have to wait 6 00:00:13,119 --> 00:00:15,600 Speaker 1: for a quick message from our sponsors for the next 7 00:00:15,640 --> 00:00:16,439 Speaker 1: two minutes or so. 8 00:00:17,160 --> 00:00:21,280 Speaker 2: My fiance forced me into her new hobby. I'm happy 9 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:25,520 Speaker 2: about it. Gross So my fiance has taken up cooking 10 00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:29,440 Speaker 2: during quarantine. Previously, we did not cook much and instead 11 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:33,280 Speaker 2: eight out a lot. That's expensive. We could afford it 12 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:37,120 Speaker 2: and are generally health eaters. Of course, we both can cook, 13 00:00:37,320 --> 00:00:40,199 Speaker 2: but given how busy we are, it was easier to 14 00:00:40,280 --> 00:00:40,760 Speaker 2: eat out. 15 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:43,479 Speaker 3: Anyone can cook. I'm gonna keep cooking. 16 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:48,559 Speaker 4: Anyone can cook is depends on how great good the 17 00:00:48,600 --> 00:00:49,239 Speaker 4: cooking is. 18 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:53,080 Speaker 2: Also, to be honest, I don't really enjoy cooking and 19 00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:55,760 Speaker 2: see it as a chore to be avoided. I love food, 20 00:00:55,800 --> 00:00:58,160 Speaker 2: but there are other things I'd rather do with my time. 21 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:00,400 Speaker 2: By the way, this comes from throwing cooking. 22 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:00,840 Speaker 3: I don't know. 23 00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:02,720 Speaker 2: And if you want to submit your own stories, go 24 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:06,040 Speaker 2: to the r slash Okay Storytime Supped it. So yes, 25 00:01:06,640 --> 00:01:09,759 Speaker 2: due to quarantine, my fiance has decided to actually cook more, 26 00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 2: and she has found she really enjoys it. 27 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:12,520 Speaker 3: This is great. 28 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:15,119 Speaker 2: I'm happy for her that she's discovered a new thing 29 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:17,520 Speaker 2: that brings her joy. Turns out she's also quite good 30 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 2: at it and cares about learning new skills, et cetera. 31 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:23,039 Speaker 2: So I've been benefiting as well. I still don't really 32 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:25,640 Speaker 2: care to cook myself, like I said, so in return 33 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:28,440 Speaker 2: for putting all this effort into cooking, I've been helping 34 00:01:28,440 --> 00:01:30,880 Speaker 2: out by paying for takeout on nights she doesn't want 35 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 2: to cook, as well as doing all the dishes and 36 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:35,520 Speaker 2: cleaning the counters, et cetera, or the days when she 37 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 2: does cook. 38 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:38,280 Speaker 3: As far as I was aware, she agreed that. 39 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:40,920 Speaker 2: This was a suitable compromise, and of course, if she 40 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 2: felt it was unfair, I would have been happy to 41 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:45,000 Speaker 2: pick up the slack in other ways, but. 42 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 3: She seemed happy with this. 43 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 2: As her cooking experiments expanded to baking and generally became 44 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 2: more elaborate, she started to rope me into cooking. I'd 45 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 2: head to the kitchen to get a drink and check 46 00:01:55,080 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 2: on her, and she'd be like, ooh, can you help me? 47 00:01:57,200 --> 00:02:01,520 Speaker 2: Chop this while I saute this or something. I would 48 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:05,640 Speaker 2: shop her Carret's for or whatever, and chat with her 49 00:02:05,640 --> 00:02:07,720 Speaker 2: about the meal and then head back to whatever I 50 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:09,919 Speaker 2: was doing. I didn't mind this at all, but it's 51 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:13,560 Speaker 2: slowly grown and to me becoming her soux chef, especially 52 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 2: when she wants to make meals that are really easier 53 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:16,239 Speaker 2: with two people. 54 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:18,840 Speaker 4: I mean, if you're benefiting from the cooking, that at 55 00:02:18,919 --> 00:02:19,960 Speaker 4: least you could do is hell. 56 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 2: I don't know. 57 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:23,200 Speaker 4: I don't feel bad for this guy. He's like, yeah, 58 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:26,200 Speaker 4: my partner is like picking up cooking. She's actually pretty 59 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:28,919 Speaker 4: good at it, but like, sometimes she wants me to chlegetables. 60 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:31,959 Speaker 2: This is what I do with Sam. And I'll be like, hey, Sam, like, 61 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 2: let's cook dinner. And then I'll be like, hey, can 62 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:36,679 Speaker 2: you help me? And He's like, I have dialp you. 63 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:40,520 Speaker 3: I'm like, you're eating it. He's like, what you twicked me? 64 00:02:40,760 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 3: Can I just help you by eating it? I'm like, Sam, 65 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:44,400 Speaker 3: you have to help. 66 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 2: Keep in mind, her cooking experiments are elaborate and sometimes 67 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:50,680 Speaker 2: take two or more hours. So my entire evening has 68 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:54,000 Speaker 2: gone to these cooking endeavors. And this happens multiple times 69 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:56,520 Speaker 2: a week On top of that, she tends to order 70 00:02:56,600 --> 00:02:59,799 Speaker 2: me around in the kitchen. I could be a little, 71 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:03,120 Speaker 2: as you can probably predict. We had a fight about it. 72 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:05,640 Speaker 2: I told her that I dislike her attitude in the 73 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 2: kitchen when I help, and I don't like cooking to 74 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:08,120 Speaker 2: begin with. 75 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 3: I would feel better about helping her if she wasn't 76 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:11,240 Speaker 3: so rude to me. 77 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:13,680 Speaker 2: But quite frankly, I don't want to spend eight plus 78 00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:15,000 Speaker 2: hours every week cooking. 79 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:19,440 Speaker 3: It's not my hobby. It's hard. I don't even eat. 80 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:22,520 Speaker 3: The thing is, if you benefit from the hobby, you 81 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:24,560 Speaker 3: can't even call it. It's like a skill. It's a 82 00:03:24,919 --> 00:03:27,359 Speaker 3: hobby and a life skill. This is a skill. It's 83 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:31,520 Speaker 3: a skill. Ultimate frisbee is a hobby. 84 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:36,120 Speaker 2: I think when the hobby helps you live, it's not 85 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 2: exactly a hobby. 86 00:03:37,720 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 4: It's like my hobby is like getting a good night's 87 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:42,720 Speaker 4: sleep and drinking enough water. 88 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:45,520 Speaker 3: I think I don't know. I think baking is more 89 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 3: of a hobby. 90 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:48,120 Speaker 4: Oh, don't let the baker's hear you say that. Well, 91 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:49,880 Speaker 4: but I mean I'm a baker. I think that is 92 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:50,560 Speaker 4: more of a hobby. 93 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:53,400 Speaker 3: Not because that's a lifestyle. That's not a hobby. That's 94 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:54,480 Speaker 3: not a hobby, it's a lifestyle. 95 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:57,640 Speaker 2: If she wanted me to pitch in by providing meals, 96 00:03:57,680 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 2: I would buy them or make something simple. Sometimes people 97 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 2: want like a home cooked meal, you know. Sometimes they 98 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:05,680 Speaker 2: don't want you to eat out every day. 99 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:06,760 Speaker 3: She was very upset. 100 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 2: She said that it wasn't fair that I was enjoying 101 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:11,680 Speaker 2: the fruits of her labor but not contributing, and that 102 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:14,400 Speaker 2: cooking took two hours, but doing the dishes and cleaning 103 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:15,120 Speaker 2: only took in. 104 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 3: Half an hour. 105 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:18,040 Speaker 2: I told her that it was her decision to make 106 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:20,480 Speaker 2: very elaborate meals, and that I would be happy if 107 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:23,720 Speaker 2: she put together a simple pizza or stir fry. I'm sorry, 108 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:26,560 Speaker 2: sounds a little ungrateful. Sounds a little ungrateful. She asked 109 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:28,039 Speaker 2: her a little help. She wants to hang out with 110 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:30,880 Speaker 2: you while you cook together. I think you the rudeness. 111 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:33,360 Speaker 2: If she's actually being rude to you, that is maybe 112 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:34,839 Speaker 2: a problem that could be addressed. 113 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:36,640 Speaker 3: But she's cooking for you. Man. 114 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:40,479 Speaker 2: After a certain point, the elaborateness of her meals crosses 115 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 2: into hobby territory, and I resent being made to feel 116 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:45,800 Speaker 2: like I'm a bad partner because I don't want to 117 00:04:45,839 --> 00:04:49,919 Speaker 2: give up multiple evenings to her hobby. Dude, you're not 118 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:53,800 Speaker 2: giving it. Ugh, She's doing She's making food for you. 119 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 2: It's not like you're not giving up. I don't know, 120 00:04:56,440 --> 00:04:58,920 Speaker 2: you're just hanging out with her and cooking. We did 121 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 2: not really resolve this. I actually bought and made some 122 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:03,360 Speaker 2: of my own meals on a few nights, so I 123 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 2: wasn't enjoying the fruits of her labor. But this seemed 124 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:08,120 Speaker 2: to make her more upset, and our fridge started to 125 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:11,360 Speaker 2: fill with more leftovers than she could eat herself. Another time, 126 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:13,560 Speaker 2: I ended up helping her but told her I needed 127 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:15,560 Speaker 2: to go to a video chat at eight pm, and 128 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:18,160 Speaker 2: she got upset when I actually stopped helping to leave, 129 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:20,880 Speaker 2: even though I told her beforehand. I told her a 130 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:24,080 Speaker 2: little snappishly, I'm afraid that I wasn't her though chef 131 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 2: to boss around in the kitchen. 132 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:28,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, but you are, though, right kind of theoretically maybe 133 00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 4: a little bit, shouldn't you. 134 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:34,640 Speaker 3: I mean, I mean, do you want to start paying? 135 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:37,560 Speaker 2: The thing is like, I'm also imagining that she's not 136 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:40,000 Speaker 2: really giving him really hard job, you know, like he's 137 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 2: got a chop vegetables and stir stuff. 138 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:44,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, what a hard what a hard knock life. 139 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:47,000 Speaker 2: I tried to discuss this with her again when we 140 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:49,200 Speaker 2: were feeling calmer. I told her that I loved that 141 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:51,640 Speaker 2: she found a new hobby, but it is her hobby 142 00:05:51,760 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 2: and I can't help with it and don't want to 143 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:56,000 Speaker 2: feel obligated to do it. She retorted that it wasn't 144 00:05:56,160 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 2: feminist of me to relegate the cooking to her and 145 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:02,839 Speaker 2: benefit from it without help. The feminism connection makes little 146 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:06,799 Speaker 2: sense to me because previously neither of us cooked much, 147 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:09,719 Speaker 2: and she chose to take up cooking herself. 148 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:12,239 Speaker 3: But of course I didn't tell her that. I don't 149 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 3: know if I like this guy, why are you acting 150 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:16,159 Speaker 3: like she invented eating? Yeah? 151 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:21,240 Speaker 2: She's like, oh, she's really into her her little hobby. Like, okay, 152 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 2: sometimes people, you know, you start out, you don't really 153 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:25,480 Speaker 2: know how to cook, and so you start out you're 154 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:27,400 Speaker 2: buying a bunch of food out and then you're like, wow, 155 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:28,400 Speaker 2: this is kind of expensive. 156 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:30,160 Speaker 3: I kind of want to, you know, learn how to 157 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:32,240 Speaker 3: cook on my own. And then you start cooking and 158 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 3: then you're. 159 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:35,720 Speaker 2: Like, oh, like I'm doing a lot of work solo 160 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:37,159 Speaker 2: now for two people. 161 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:39,560 Speaker 3: Maybe yeah, but you know it'srue. 162 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:41,479 Speaker 4: He's like you know, why don't you just do it 163 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:43,320 Speaker 4: for the love of the game. Why do I have 164 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:43,680 Speaker 4: to do that? 165 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:43,840 Speaker 2: Why? 166 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:46,280 Speaker 4: Why don't you just do it? Because you're like in 167 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:47,360 Speaker 4: love with the process. 168 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:49,680 Speaker 2: You're literally in love with it. You're obsessed with it. 169 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:51,520 Speaker 2: I shouldn't have to help it all, even though I'm 170 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:53,440 Speaker 2: eating it. I told her that if she wants to 171 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:56,040 Speaker 2: discuss the distribution of labor in our house, we can 172 00:06:56,080 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 2: do so and come up with something new that reflects 173 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 2: that she's cooking more. Now we try to do this, 174 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:02,719 Speaker 2: but she wanted to count all the time she spends 175 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 2: cooking as or time. 176 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:07,320 Speaker 3: Oh, I mean if you're eating it? Nah, on what 177 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:08,680 Speaker 3: she's making, it's some different. 178 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:12,160 Speaker 4: Now, what if you enjoy cooking, if it's a hobby 179 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:13,720 Speaker 4: that you'd like, I don't think it's fair to call 180 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:14,480 Speaker 4: that a chore. 181 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 3: I disagree. 182 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:18,720 Speaker 2: I love cooking, but sometimes cooking is a tour, especially 183 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 2: when you're very tired. 184 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:22,600 Speaker 4: I guess it's more of just like the uh, the 185 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:23,960 Speaker 4: emotional flavoring. 186 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 3: I don't know. 187 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 2: I think you can enjoy cooking like I think you 188 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 2: can enjoy something that is also sometimes a chore. 189 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:33,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, I guess like I enjoy that. I enjoy vacuuming. Okay, 190 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:37,760 Speaker 4: I do enjoy that, and I'm not ashamed of that's yeah. 191 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:41,160 Speaker 4: I mean yes, or like gardening, you can't chore a vacuum, 192 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:42,560 Speaker 4: That's true. 193 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:43,680 Speaker 3: We're onto something here. 194 00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:46,480 Speaker 2: If I was like, if you were like, I enjoy vacuuming, 195 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:48,880 Speaker 2: and then I was like, perfect, you vacuum all the 196 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:51,640 Speaker 2: time and I'm never gonna help you vacuum, I'd be like, yes, 197 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 2: but like, I don't do any more chores even like 198 00:07:54,960 --> 00:07:58,240 Speaker 2: to reflect that you're doing more vacuuming, you'd be like, well, 199 00:07:58,320 --> 00:08:01,200 Speaker 2: I enjoy it, but I'm still doing stuff to help 200 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:03,520 Speaker 2: around the house and you're not doing anything more. 201 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:05,559 Speaker 4: Yeah, But I think that would be a separate issue 202 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 4: outside of the vacuum because I love the game. 203 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:10,600 Speaker 2: Okay, Dakota really loves Vacuumored one. 204 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:12,160 Speaker 3: I'm a player of the game. 205 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:16,240 Speaker 2: So according to her ideal chore distribution, she spends ten 206 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:20,040 Speaker 2: plus hours cooking dinner only every week, which somehow leaves 207 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:21,520 Speaker 2: me with pretty much all the. 208 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:24,080 Speaker 3: Rest of the chores. So wait, hold on, hold on. 209 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:26,480 Speaker 2: So what you're saying is we got is she cooking 210 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:28,239 Speaker 2: on the week every day of the week. 211 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 3: We have seven days of the week, right, and she 212 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:33,199 Speaker 3: does five hours. 213 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:35,599 Speaker 2: That means she's doing maybe hour an hour and a 214 00:08:35,640 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 2: half a cooking every. 215 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:39,200 Speaker 3: Night, which probably feels like ten minutes to her because 216 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:40,600 Speaker 3: she loves it so much. She loves it so much. 217 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:41,679 Speaker 3: I don't know why he's complaining. 218 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 2: He's saying ten plus hours, like it's this huge number, 219 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:46,760 Speaker 2: but that's realistically like. 220 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:48,959 Speaker 3: An hour and hour and a half every night, right. 221 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:52,000 Speaker 2: Maybe two, which is like pretty normal for cooking. I 222 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:55,679 Speaker 2: don't know what his buddy doesn't know he is. I 223 00:08:55,720 --> 00:08:58,400 Speaker 2: told her I wasn't happy with this because making elaborate 224 00:08:58,400 --> 00:09:01,000 Speaker 2: meals is a hobby. It isn't fair that's say, six 225 00:09:01,040 --> 00:09:04,080 Speaker 2: out of ten hours of her chores is actually her hobby, 226 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:06,720 Speaker 2: and I have to do an equivalent amount of actual chores. 227 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:07,600 Speaker 3: That makes sense. 228 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:09,840 Speaker 2: So we're at a bit of an impasse. Am I 229 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:12,880 Speaker 2: actually being a bad feminist? I don't think I am wrong. 230 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:15,959 Speaker 2: I'm quite familiar with emotional labor, meant to load all that. 231 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:16,920 Speaker 3: But maybe I am. 232 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:19,400 Speaker 2: I love this woman and obviously want to marry her, 233 00:09:19,440 --> 00:09:22,360 Speaker 2: but we're usually good at making decisions logically, and this 234 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:25,200 Speaker 2: is the first time we've had such a disagreement. I 235 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:27,480 Speaker 2: don't know how to get her to understand the boundary 236 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:31,160 Speaker 2: between cooking as a necessary activity and cooking as a hobby. 237 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:34,240 Speaker 2: I would appreciate your advice. And there are some comments, 238 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:37,960 Speaker 2: but so yeah, I have to remember any of the 239 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:39,640 Speaker 2: thoughts that I had before this happened. 240 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:42,200 Speaker 4: I remember mine, So I'll start because it feels like 241 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 4: where we're adding the stories less about what's like who 242 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:48,400 Speaker 4: needs to change, and it's really more like a what 243 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:49,160 Speaker 4: is a chore? 244 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:52,080 Speaker 3: What classifies something as could work? 245 00:09:52,520 --> 00:09:54,840 Speaker 4: And it's like it sounds like from the end of 246 00:09:54,880 --> 00:09:57,520 Speaker 4: that Op's just like, well, if she was making a 247 00:09:57,720 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 4: gruel and slop, yeah, then would be different. 248 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:02,520 Speaker 3: Well, that's kind of it. He's like if I'm made 249 00:10:02,520 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 3: easy meals. 250 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:05,200 Speaker 2: He's like, if I'm made pasta with butter every night, 251 00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:07,440 Speaker 2: you'd be fine. And it's like, well, she wants something 252 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:09,160 Speaker 2: a little more sophisticated. 253 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:11,760 Speaker 4: But you know, if you're like, well, it took me 254 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:15,359 Speaker 4: eight hours to make, you know, a dozen French macaroons, 255 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:17,280 Speaker 4: so I did eight hours worth of chores, It's. 256 00:10:17,120 --> 00:10:19,880 Speaker 3: Like, no, you didn't nu, huh, Like my exactly? 257 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:21,920 Speaker 2: I agree, But with okay, I could actually use my 258 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:24,439 Speaker 2: mom as a great example. She is an excellent cook 259 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:28,240 Speaker 2: cooks very healthy, great meals. They probably spent take her, 260 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 2: you know, depending on the meal, but like roughly an 261 00:10:30,920 --> 00:10:34,160 Speaker 2: hour to do. And she likes cooking and she's very 262 00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:36,080 Speaker 2: good at it, and she's making you know, maybe more 263 00:10:36,120 --> 00:10:39,960 Speaker 2: elaborate meals than the average household, but that's still a chore. 264 00:10:40,160 --> 00:10:43,040 Speaker 2: She's still making food for multiple people. That's you know, 265 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:47,280 Speaker 2: she's she's doing something that is not inherently a selfish hobby. 266 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:49,920 Speaker 2: She's doing something for the betterment of herself, but also 267 00:10:49,960 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 2: mostly the people that she's cooking for. 268 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:53,520 Speaker 4: Right, Like, if I was like playing like a video 269 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:56,800 Speaker 4: game and I was like grinding, like doing some repetitive 270 00:10:56,960 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 4: thing for experience points. Yeah, and then I was like, well, bab, 271 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:03,360 Speaker 4: I've actually been doing basically chores for five hours. That's 272 00:11:03,400 --> 00:11:07,400 Speaker 4: totally It's not really a chore because I'm doing something 273 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:10,520 Speaker 4: that I'm choosing to actively do and I and it's 274 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:12,000 Speaker 4: but it but it provides nothing. 275 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:14,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, Red Bull Rana says, And then he said he 276 00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:15,920 Speaker 2: would pick up some more slack. But now she says 277 00:11:15,960 --> 00:11:17,720 Speaker 2: it means all the other chores, which is where I 278 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:19,600 Speaker 2: think she's in the wrong. I think they need to 279 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:21,600 Speaker 2: meet in the middle, and he's gone the one end, 280 00:11:21,640 --> 00:11:23,880 Speaker 2: going well, that's not at all, so I shouldn't have 281 00:11:23,880 --> 00:11:25,560 Speaker 2: to do any more to it, Like you know, he's 282 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:28,439 Speaker 2: like saying that it's not indicative of her doing any 283 00:11:28,520 --> 00:11:28,920 Speaker 2: extra work. 284 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:29,640 Speaker 3: It's not true. 285 00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:32,480 Speaker 2: Whereas she said, well, I'm doing all of this extra work, 286 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:35,440 Speaker 2: so I should have to do anything else, and it's like, well, no, 287 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:37,400 Speaker 2: you still have to help out with other stuff. 288 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:40,920 Speaker 4: These really were a couple of logical individuals, which they 289 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:46,240 Speaker 4: could be logical chart of some kind of schedule for 290 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:49,800 Speaker 4: ye or just drawing straws, draw chores out of a 291 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:53,160 Speaker 4: hat for the week, like literally randomize it. 292 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:53,960 Speaker 3: So that's fair. 293 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:57,400 Speaker 2: But we've got some comments. Let's see what the what 294 00:11:57,480 --> 00:12:00,480 Speaker 2: Reddit thinks of this guy. Common one the best way 295 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:03,480 Speaker 2: I've ever heard this type of resentment described was by 296 00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:10,760 Speaker 2: David Schnirch in Passionate Marriage. Dude's name is Schnarch Snarch. Essentially, 297 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:13,040 Speaker 2: he says that when one partner forces the other to 298 00:12:13,080 --> 00:12:16,559 Speaker 2: do things they enjoy, it feels like togetherness to them. Yeah, 299 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:19,040 Speaker 2: I mean that's probably part of why she wants it. 300 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:20,040 Speaker 2: She wants to hang out with them. 301 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:22,080 Speaker 3: I got a lock back in. I'm still hooked on 302 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:22,800 Speaker 3: schnarch dear. 303 00:12:23,040 --> 00:12:25,440 Speaker 2: But when they're the one being forced to participate, it 304 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:28,520 Speaker 2: feels like being controlled. Coma two says, honestly, if he 305 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:30,760 Speaker 2: is using a million pots and pans, then he's doing 306 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:33,640 Speaker 2: it wrong. You don't need a new container for every ingredient. 307 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:35,600 Speaker 2: You just have to organize yourself in a way that 308 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:38,880 Speaker 2: will add ingredients as you go. I'm also really quick 309 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:41,560 Speaker 2: circling back. He said that it took him thirty minutes 310 00:12:41,600 --> 00:12:43,440 Speaker 2: to do the dishes. I don't think it takes that 311 00:12:43,520 --> 00:12:47,480 Speaker 2: long unless she's using like twenty different dishes for these meals. 312 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:50,360 Speaker 2: Maybe they're all cast iron, or maybe they don't have 313 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:52,840 Speaker 2: a washing dishwasher. That is a possibility, But they said 314 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:54,439 Speaker 2: they have a fair bit of money because they have 315 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:56,760 Speaker 2: takeout money, so I feel like they probably have a dishwasher, 316 00:12:56,840 --> 00:12:58,959 Speaker 2: in which case I'm circling back again, and I think 317 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:01,840 Speaker 2: that you're taking too long to do the dishes. 318 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:04,560 Speaker 3: I think I think just hiring someone else to do 319 00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:06,520 Speaker 3: all of the chores at this point. Yes, if you 320 00:13:06,520 --> 00:13:07,840 Speaker 3: have the money for takeout. 321 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:10,120 Speaker 2: If you have takeout money, I don't know, Yeah, you 322 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:12,120 Speaker 2: use the money that you're saving on cooking. 323 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:14,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, if you're just like me and my wife, we 324 00:13:14,559 --> 00:13:18,160 Speaker 4: just can't get over this, and it's like we'll pay someone. 325 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:20,600 Speaker 5: Else to do with that. Wasn't this also during the. 326 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:27,760 Speaker 2: COVID You're right, guys, that's why they're stuck together for 327 00:13:27,920 --> 00:13:30,920 Speaker 2: like the every day for hours. 328 00:13:31,080 --> 00:13:33,360 Speaker 3: That's why all these problems are happening. 329 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:37,240 Speaker 4: Keeps cooking and I just want to microwave cobbage. 330 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:41,000 Speaker 2: I personally blame those cooking videos where every ingredient is 331 00:13:41,080 --> 00:13:42,360 Speaker 2: laid out in a different bowl. 332 00:13:42,520 --> 00:13:44,000 Speaker 3: That's obviously just for show. 333 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:47,120 Speaker 2: You could reuse things like waiting scales without washing as 334 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:49,000 Speaker 2: long as you put the dry stuff in first. You 335 00:13:49,040 --> 00:13:51,559 Speaker 2: can reuse a bowl that had tomatoes in for the onions. 336 00:13:51,640 --> 00:13:54,160 Speaker 2: You can reuse the same knife. What is this commoner 337 00:13:54,280 --> 00:13:54,840 Speaker 2: talking about? 338 00:13:55,080 --> 00:13:58,360 Speaker 3: I don't know. Like I, I'm not cooking. 339 00:13:58,520 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 2: The commenter was like, are you using different bowls for everything? 340 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:05,120 Speaker 4: Was? How was just put everything in one bowl? It's 341 00:14:05,200 --> 00:14:06,320 Speaker 4: the everything bowl. 342 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:07,480 Speaker 3: Comment three. 343 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:10,800 Speaker 2: I've spent a long time in food service and I'm 344 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:13,280 Speaker 2: good friends with chefs. This has taught me that one 345 00:14:13,280 --> 00:14:15,880 Speaker 2: of the biggest components of getting food made quickly is 346 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:19,000 Speaker 2: prep something that is literally a full time job. If 347 00:14:19,040 --> 00:14:22,040 Speaker 2: this is really her passion project, she should do more prep. 348 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:26,280 Speaker 2: That means having things chop, marinated and sauces and such 349 00:14:26,360 --> 00:14:29,040 Speaker 2: prepared as much ahead of time as you can. Cooking 350 00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:31,600 Speaker 2: is an ordeal when you don't prep properly and are 351 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:32,760 Speaker 2: doing everything on the fly. 352 00:14:33,160 --> 00:14:34,360 Speaker 3: One or two days a. 353 00:14:34,280 --> 00:14:36,880 Speaker 2: Week devoted to prep would make your lives a lot easier. 354 00:14:36,920 --> 00:14:38,800 Speaker 2: Opie says. This would make a lot of sense if 355 00:14:38,800 --> 00:14:42,240 Speaker 2: she wasn't whimsically picking things to make every couple of days, 356 00:14:42,440 --> 00:14:46,360 Speaker 2: like she'll be browsing recipes online then decide to make butternuts, squash, 357 00:14:46,440 --> 00:14:48,240 Speaker 2: lasagna or something that very day. 358 00:14:48,480 --> 00:14:50,080 Speaker 3: Sounds like you're living the life. Man. 359 00:14:50,520 --> 00:14:53,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, this guy's really just like, Yeah, my wife keeps 360 00:14:53,240 --> 00:14:56,080 Speaker 4: finding new things to cook and she's kind of good 361 00:14:56,120 --> 00:14:56,440 Speaker 4: at it. 362 00:14:56,520 --> 00:14:58,920 Speaker 3: What do I do? I don't know. I have to 363 00:14:58,920 --> 00:15:01,520 Speaker 3: do laundry and clean the house. The thing is I 364 00:15:01,640 --> 00:15:02,040 Speaker 3: like cooking. 365 00:15:02,080 --> 00:15:04,040 Speaker 2: So this isn't a great example, but I think if 366 00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:06,480 Speaker 2: I had someone who was like a full time cook 367 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:09,040 Speaker 2: for me, I'd be okay doing every other choor. 368 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:11,760 Speaker 3: I mean not that not that it is a fair distribution. 369 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:14,360 Speaker 2: I'm just saying my personally, you know me personally, if 370 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:16,040 Speaker 2: someone was feeding me like great meals. 371 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:19,240 Speaker 3: I'd be like, this is my living shit. I understand. 372 00:15:19,280 --> 00:15:22,400 Speaker 3: I understand what he's coming from in terms of distribution, 373 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:25,120 Speaker 3: and he hates doing it right, he does not enjoy 374 00:15:25,280 --> 00:15:27,120 Speaker 3: doing the cooking. Yeah, I don't know, dude. 375 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:29,480 Speaker 4: I think you just work out a system where it's like, look, 376 00:15:29,640 --> 00:15:32,240 Speaker 4: you just keep cooking a delicious, amazing stuff. 377 00:15:32,280 --> 00:15:34,320 Speaker 2: Maybe she has to cook lunch and randles now too, 378 00:15:34,560 --> 00:15:36,280 Speaker 2: you know, maybe that's the trade off, just. 379 00:15:36,280 --> 00:15:38,280 Speaker 3: To have a cook everything and then you clean everything, 380 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:40,200 Speaker 3: and then you get fed and she has a clean 381 00:15:40,240 --> 00:15:42,560 Speaker 3: house and then it's over and it's everything's fine, and 382 00:15:42,680 --> 00:15:43,080 Speaker 3: go to the. 383 00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:46,160 Speaker 2: Store and buy the necessary ingredients. We are fairly well stocked, 384 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:48,720 Speaker 2: but there'll always be something or other unique to the 385 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:51,000 Speaker 2: recipe she's selected that she has to run out and get. 386 00:15:51,240 --> 00:15:54,080 Speaker 2: I suppose I could suggest meal planning to her, but 387 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:56,120 Speaker 2: part of the fund seems to be spinning the recipe 388 00:15:56,120 --> 00:15:58,560 Speaker 2: wheel that day to see what we get. Replies, says, 389 00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:00,800 Speaker 2: how about a weekly meal. Maybe you can even make 390 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:03,400 Speaker 2: her a fancy menu page to update every week. She 391 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:05,280 Speaker 2: can pick her recipes and add them to the menu 392 00:16:05,320 --> 00:16:08,000 Speaker 2: and list out the ingredients she needs, and there is 393 00:16:08,040 --> 00:16:10,960 Speaker 2: an updates. Cez says, good for wifey. She found something 394 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:13,240 Speaker 2: to keep her mind busy during quarantine. Again, this is 395 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:16,120 Speaker 2: pretty relevant information that this is during quarantine when a 396 00:16:16,160 --> 00:16:19,560 Speaker 2: lot of people were exploring hobbies like cooking and you know, 397 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:22,080 Speaker 2: making bread like that was a pretty big thing. 398 00:16:22,280 --> 00:16:22,440 Speaker 3: Yeah. 399 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:24,520 Speaker 4: Did imagine if she just like picked up you know, 400 00:16:24,640 --> 00:16:27,040 Speaker 4: heavy metal drumming or something that would be I would 401 00:16:27,080 --> 00:16:29,360 Speaker 4: be way more annoyed about that, probably instead of I 402 00:16:29,400 --> 00:16:33,160 Speaker 4: agreed for Yeah, and uh yeah, I don't know, dude, 403 00:16:33,480 --> 00:16:36,400 Speaker 4: Any grown man complaining about doing chores weird? 404 00:16:36,400 --> 00:16:39,760 Speaker 3: Any weird weird to me? There is an update, so 405 00:16:41,040 --> 00:16:42,320 Speaker 3: let's see what the update say. 406 00:16:42,640 --> 00:16:45,720 Speaker 2: My original post blew up in a way I totally 407 00:16:45,880 --> 00:16:48,480 Speaker 2: wasn't expecting. It. Seems a lot of people could personally 408 00:16:48,520 --> 00:16:50,760 Speaker 2: relate to my post in some way, so I hope 409 00:16:50,800 --> 00:16:53,480 Speaker 2: it's been helpful to others apart from myself. Thanks very 410 00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:56,000 Speaker 2: much to everyone who commented. I wasn't able to reply 411 00:16:56,160 --> 00:16:58,960 Speaker 2: to everyone, obviously, but I did read as much as 412 00:16:58,960 --> 00:17:00,720 Speaker 2: I could. There are a few things I'd like to 413 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:03,280 Speaker 2: clear up since they kept coming up. She is not 414 00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:06,800 Speaker 2: doing this because she wants to spend more time together. Previously, 415 00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:09,520 Speaker 2: we would spend most of our evenings together watching shows 416 00:17:09,600 --> 00:17:12,320 Speaker 2: or playing video games. Now that she's spending eight plus 417 00:17:12,320 --> 00:17:15,080 Speaker 2: hours cooking by herself, I don't see her as much, 418 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:17,919 Speaker 2: and she is too tired from cooking sometimes to spend 419 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:20,280 Speaker 2: time with me. So that's something that's been bugging me 420 00:17:20,320 --> 00:17:23,560 Speaker 2: about this that I haven't even realized. It is especially 421 00:17:23,560 --> 00:17:25,960 Speaker 2: bothersome to me because I work fifty plus hours a 422 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:28,400 Speaker 2: week and she still works full time as well, though 423 00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:30,920 Speaker 2: her schedule is much more flexible, So now I feel 424 00:17:30,920 --> 00:17:34,240 Speaker 2: like my already meager free time and quality time with 425 00:17:34,280 --> 00:17:36,760 Speaker 2: her is being cut into, which might be one of 426 00:17:36,800 --> 00:17:40,360 Speaker 2: the most important aspects of this whole issue. Her motivation 427 00:17:40,520 --> 00:17:42,719 Speaker 2: is not to save money or be more healthy. We 428 00:17:42,760 --> 00:17:44,359 Speaker 2: live in a big city where we are able to 429 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:47,600 Speaker 2: order lots of homemade style ethnic food from mom and 430 00:17:47,640 --> 00:17:50,800 Speaker 2: pop type places that isn't overly salted or oily to 431 00:17:50,880 --> 00:17:53,320 Speaker 2: appeal to the masses. It's at least as healthy as 432 00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:56,560 Speaker 2: the normal diet of a Mexican, Indian, tie, Ethiopian, etc. 433 00:17:56,840 --> 00:17:57,119 Speaker 3: Person. 434 00:17:57,200 --> 00:18:00,399 Speaker 2: Furthermore, we make a very comfortable income and I don't 435 00:18:00,440 --> 00:18:03,600 Speaker 2: want kids, so money is not an issue. So I 436 00:18:03,680 --> 00:18:05,960 Speaker 2: sat her down and talked to her again, because we're 437 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:09,080 Speaker 2: both in a good mood, but when I brought up 438 00:18:09,119 --> 00:18:13,200 Speaker 2: the topic, she started to become annoyed, simply because this 439 00:18:13,240 --> 00:18:15,280 Speaker 2: is a point of contention, and I guess she didn't 440 00:18:15,320 --> 00:18:17,160 Speaker 2: want to talk about it. I told her that I'm 441 00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:20,080 Speaker 2: invested in solving this problem, and that if we're unable 442 00:18:20,119 --> 00:18:22,480 Speaker 2: to do so, we can bring it up during couples counseling. 443 00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:23,320 Speaker 3: We had already. 444 00:18:23,040 --> 00:18:27,000 Speaker 2: Intended to go before the wedding purely for pre marital counseling, 445 00:18:27,119 --> 00:18:29,040 Speaker 2: but now I feel as if there is an actual 446 00:18:29,119 --> 00:18:32,399 Speaker 2: problem we have to discuss during the session, and if 447 00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:34,600 Speaker 2: we can get an appointment sooner rather than later, I 448 00:18:34,600 --> 00:18:35,560 Speaker 2: would be open. 449 00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:38,200 Speaker 3: To doing so. This seemed to make it real for her. 450 00:18:38,320 --> 00:18:40,680 Speaker 2: She seemed to be truly taken aback that I wanted 451 00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:44,000 Speaker 2: to go to counseling over this, well, not over this specifically, 452 00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:46,439 Speaker 2: but that I wanted to involve a counselor at all 453 00:18:46,480 --> 00:18:49,320 Speaker 2: in the cooking issue. She even became teary eyed. I 454 00:18:49,359 --> 00:18:51,280 Speaker 2: felt bad, so I asked her if there was anything 455 00:18:51,320 --> 00:18:54,080 Speaker 2: else bothering her, that that was really at the root 456 00:18:54,119 --> 00:18:56,320 Speaker 2: of this, and she said that she's overall felt pretty 457 00:18:56,359 --> 00:18:59,000 Speaker 2: depressed by the pandemic and quarantine and everything, which is 458 00:18:59,040 --> 00:19:01,720 Speaker 2: what I said. Yeah, she's trying to find like a 459 00:19:01,760 --> 00:19:05,080 Speaker 2: way to relieve all of the stress. Yeah, and you know, 460 00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:09,040 Speaker 2: just awfulness of being cooped up and probably you know, 461 00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:11,920 Speaker 2: spending time with like maybe she needs that alone time 462 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:15,000 Speaker 2: that's not just working, you know, something that she really enjoys. 463 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:17,080 Speaker 2: I told her I could relate and let her cry 464 00:19:17,119 --> 00:19:18,639 Speaker 2: it out of it when she got in passed that. 465 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:20,840 Speaker 2: I didn't want the conversation to lose its steam, so 466 00:19:20,880 --> 00:19:23,280 Speaker 2: I brought up the following things. I love that her 467 00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:26,199 Speaker 2: new hobby is making her happy, and I appreciate that 468 00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:28,480 Speaker 2: she's making lots of delicious food for us to enjoy. 469 00:19:28,560 --> 00:19:30,760 Speaker 2: These are the problems I have identified which I would 470 00:19:30,800 --> 00:19:33,560 Speaker 2: like to find solutions for. One, we used to spend 471 00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:35,119 Speaker 2: a lot more time together. I would like to have 472 00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:37,200 Speaker 2: more easy meals so we can go back to spending 473 00:19:37,280 --> 00:19:40,199 Speaker 2: quality time together on TV, video games, et cetera like 474 00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:40,639 Speaker 2: we used to. 475 00:19:40,760 --> 00:19:44,000 Speaker 4: I would argue that neither of those activities well maybe 476 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:47,720 Speaker 4: video games maybe, but TV especially not a really quality 477 00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:49,920 Speaker 4: time spent with someone I just have like a very 478 00:19:49,960 --> 00:19:51,960 Speaker 4: The thing is, like, it's hard for me to fully 479 00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:55,560 Speaker 4: relate to this guy really quick because whenever I'm cooking 480 00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:56,400 Speaker 4: and a friend is over. 481 00:19:56,800 --> 00:19:59,720 Speaker 2: So much talking happening, even if they're not necessary, Like 482 00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:00,720 Speaker 2: a lot of times I'll. 483 00:20:00,560 --> 00:20:03,000 Speaker 3: Be cooking and my friend will be sitting and just watching. 484 00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:05,040 Speaker 2: Me cook, Like that's quality time and we're talking that 485 00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:06,640 Speaker 2: I consider that quality time. 486 00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:08,880 Speaker 3: It is that is quality time. Yeah, And so. 487 00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:12,919 Speaker 2: I'm I'm confused why he's not just like and he 488 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:14,680 Speaker 2: did bring up that she can be rooted in the kitchen, 489 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:18,320 Speaker 2: so that's maybe a thing to address, but like that 490 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:21,200 Speaker 2: can be and I mean, for me is quality time. 491 00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:23,840 Speaker 3: So I'm wondering why why it's not for him? 492 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:26,879 Speaker 4: Well, yeah, I think this is less of an issue 493 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:28,720 Speaker 4: of quality time and more like I want to do 494 00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:30,560 Speaker 4: the things that I like doing or that we both 495 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:31,240 Speaker 4: liked doing. 496 00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:33,159 Speaker 3: Like even if I was like, for example, even if 497 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:33,520 Speaker 3: I'm like. 498 00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:35,359 Speaker 4: If it was an issue of quality time, he would 499 00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:38,000 Speaker 4: just be there, like talking exactly his partner. 500 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:41,720 Speaker 3: Like even like let's say like I'm folding laundry, someone's 501 00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:44,320 Speaker 3: there talking to me. Quality time, quality time, I'm going 502 00:20:44,359 --> 00:20:46,040 Speaker 3: to get gas, someone's in the car with me. I 503 00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:48,320 Speaker 3: like doing errands. 504 00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:50,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, all eyes on the screen watching a thing and 505 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:53,159 Speaker 4: then going the time, It's not quality time. I mean 506 00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:55,960 Speaker 4: you're spending time together, yeah, like videos, coupling or whatever. 507 00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:59,760 Speaker 3: But I think that it's less active quality time. Right. 508 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:02,360 Speaker 2: I do not mind helping a little or hanging out 509 00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:06,080 Speaker 2: while she's cooking, but the disrespect in the kitchen absolutely 510 00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:07,919 Speaker 2: has to stop, which is a fair I think that 511 00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:10,600 Speaker 2: is a fair request. In future, I will be getting 512 00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:12,639 Speaker 2: up and leaving if she's rude to me in the kitchen. 513 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:15,240 Speaker 2: The unfeminist comment was a low blow, and I would 514 00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:16,160 Speaker 2: like an apology. 515 00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:19,280 Speaker 3: Oh, he's like, I am a feminist. Don't you dare 516 00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:22,359 Speaker 3: say out the wise? I I'm a sorry, right, I am, 517 00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:25,960 Speaker 3: I'm a feminist. I am a feminist. 518 00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:28,359 Speaker 4: And there are really quickly because I see some comments 519 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:30,639 Speaker 4: being like TV is quality time, and it's like like 520 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:31,439 Speaker 4: it's coming from. 521 00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:33,879 Speaker 2: A place of like a different type of quality time exactly. 522 00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:36,600 Speaker 2: I think it is a inactive quality time. I think 523 00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:38,560 Speaker 2: that like being in the kitchen with someone talking to 524 00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:40,080 Speaker 2: them that is active quality right. 525 00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:41,760 Speaker 3: It's yeah, it's a passive action. 526 00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:43,639 Speaker 2: And how you're watching TV because some people talk a 527 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:46,000 Speaker 2: lot drink now, Yeah. 528 00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:47,040 Speaker 3: The passive is the word I was looking for. Thank you. 529 00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:49,840 Speaker 3: She said she understood these things and apologized for the 530 00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:52,560 Speaker 3: unfeminist guy. That is the funniest part of the story. 531 00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:57,560 Speaker 2: I'm sorry, you're a feminist, Okay. 532 00:21:57,119 --> 00:21:59,080 Speaker 3: I think that's so funny. Yeah. 533 00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:01,119 Speaker 2: We worked out a meal schedule where I would be 534 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:04,040 Speaker 2: responsible for providing meals two times a week and she 535 00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:06,080 Speaker 2: would cook elaborate meals on weekends. 536 00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:08,280 Speaker 3: I like that one designated. 537 00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:09,280 Speaker 2: Night would be for both of us to cook a 538 00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:12,240 Speaker 2: simpler meal together as a couple's activity. I asked her 539 00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:15,359 Speaker 2: if there was anything about this she wanted to bring 540 00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:18,000 Speaker 2: up about how I was behaving or how she feels, 541 00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:20,360 Speaker 2: and she said no, that she really was just depressed 542 00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:23,760 Speaker 2: by quarantine and had dived into her new hobby. Hopefully, 543 00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:26,040 Speaker 2: if there is something else, she will bring it up later. 544 00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:28,280 Speaker 2: That was a night where she was to cook a 545 00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:30,879 Speaker 2: simpler meal for us, and as a show of good faith, 546 00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:32,639 Speaker 2: I decided to help her out and see if she 547 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:34,800 Speaker 2: could be more chill, and suggested we do all the 548 00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:37,639 Speaker 2: prep first, as someone had suggested. It started off fine, 549 00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:41,240 Speaker 2: but she started to become snappish as she juggled frying 550 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:43,360 Speaker 2: in two different pans and wanted me to keep her 551 00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:45,720 Speaker 2: handing her prepped ingredients, so I went back to my 552 00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:48,600 Speaker 2: room By the way, you should come back to full 553 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:52,439 Speaker 2: episodes with us, which you can listen to on Spotify, 554 00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:54,520 Speaker 2: Apple Podcasts, or iHeartRadio. 555 00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:56,800 Speaker 3: Just search up Okay, strike time. All I need to do. 556 00:22:57,119 --> 00:23:01,119 Speaker 3: It's pretty simple, woo. But there is a little bit 557 00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:02,240 Speaker 3: left to the story. 558 00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:05,520 Speaker 2: Any final thoughts. I mean, yeah, like I kind of 559 00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:06,200 Speaker 2: figured it out. 560 00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:07,359 Speaker 3: They did. 561 00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:09,919 Speaker 4: I feel like, you know, most of this is probably 562 00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:11,639 Speaker 4: just like being locked in the house. 563 00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:13,399 Speaker 3: I think it is type in the house. 564 00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:16,359 Speaker 2: I think it was really hard for everyone to be 565 00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:18,840 Speaker 2: locked in the house with the same people. I can 566 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:20,920 Speaker 2: tell you it was hard living with my parents, and 567 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:22,840 Speaker 2: you know, I got fed great meals. 568 00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:26,520 Speaker 3: But it's hard. It's hard. I think you guys communicate well. 569 00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:29,200 Speaker 2: I think she may be the type of person who 570 00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:33,639 Speaker 2: wants people to help and also simultaneously gets stressed in 571 00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:35,679 Speaker 2: the kitchen. Yeah, which is my mother, and you know 572 00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:38,720 Speaker 2: we love cooks, great meals. Hard to cook with someone 573 00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:40,639 Speaker 2: who gets angry in the kitchen. It is, it is, 574 00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:44,719 Speaker 2: But there is a little bit left to this story. 575 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:47,520 Speaker 2: I felt very bad because I was leaving her in 576 00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:49,359 Speaker 2: a bit of a tough spot, but I also felt 577 00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:51,600 Speaker 2: like I needed to stand by what I said because 578 00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:53,040 Speaker 2: I did not want to put up with her poor 579 00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:55,080 Speaker 2: treatment of me. On top of that, I had a 580 00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:57,720 Speaker 2: really difficult day at work. My job involves working with 581 00:23:57,760 --> 00:24:00,200 Speaker 2: people who have very tough lives, and I end up 582 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:04,560 Speaker 2: heartbroken and emotionally drained quite frequently. This has become exacerbated 583 00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:06,480 Speaker 2: due to the pandemic. So I really just did not 584 00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:09,200 Speaker 2: want to deal with my own partner being mean to me. Ultimately, 585 00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:11,560 Speaker 2: the dinner turned out fine, but she was pretty icy 586 00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:13,320 Speaker 2: to me. I praised the meal little bit more than 587 00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:16,280 Speaker 2: I usually did, but she was sour all night. I've 588 00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:19,040 Speaker 2: started looking to get a couple's counseling appointments soon. I 589 00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:21,080 Speaker 2: wish I had an app here an update for you, but 590 00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:23,520 Speaker 2: hopefully things will get better with our new meal schedule 591 00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:26,679 Speaker 2: as we continue to implement it and I continue to 592 00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:29,040 Speaker 2: set boundaries. I will also be keeping an eye on 593 00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:32,600 Speaker 2: her depression and suggest individual therapy if it seems appropriate. 594 00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:35,480 Speaker 2: And that is the end of that story. 595 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:39,840 Speaker 4: Oo O you know, w here's another here's another thought, right, 596 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:41,760 Speaker 4: other thought. I don't know if this is the good 597 00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:45,600 Speaker 4: path the bad path. But you're like, well, that's a hobby, 598 00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:48,719 Speaker 4: not a chore. Why don't you develop another hobby? That 599 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:52,359 Speaker 4: where you go in you know, you're you're making, you're making, 600 00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:56,680 Speaker 4: you're crafting items for the house, well, gardening in. 601 00:24:56,600 --> 00:24:59,879 Speaker 3: A woodwork, some kind of working or stonemasonry. 602 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:00,239 Speaker 2: Oh. 603 00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:02,280 Speaker 3: I was say, like, start growing like veggies and stuff 604 00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:04,719 Speaker 3: that your wife can cook with. That's actually better than 605 00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:05,600 Speaker 3: anything I was saying. 606 00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:08,200 Speaker 4: I was saying, basically, to make your wife get annoyed 607 00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:10,480 Speaker 4: with your new chore hobby and then call it a 608 00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:11,760 Speaker 4: chore instead of a hobby. 609 00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:13,320 Speaker 3: And then maybe she would be like. 610 00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:18,000 Speaker 4: Oh, I see, now I should be maybe not just 611 00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:21,440 Speaker 4: saying me cooking is the only thing I should be doing. 612 00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:23,919 Speaker 3: So you're saying, go the passive aggressive route. 613 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:26,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, but like that's more of a joke, like probably 614 00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:29,040 Speaker 4: don't do that, you know, if anything, do the gardening 615 00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:32,240 Speaker 4: so that you can at least grows grow some some 616 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:34,160 Speaker 4: objects that you can eat. 617 00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:37,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's one of that story, folks. And we 618 00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:39,119 Speaker 2: got another one for you. 619 00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:41,879 Speaker 3: Yeah we do, Okay, let's do it. We ready. 620 00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:47,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, my boyfriend mocks my financial status, but he said 621 00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:48,400 Speaker 4: it's only a joke. 622 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:52,920 Speaker 3: It's just a joke, babe, just a joke. Brokey. 623 00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:56,920 Speaker 4: My boyfriend and I have been dating for about nine months. 624 00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:58,960 Speaker 4: We've known each other almost two years and things have 625 00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:01,920 Speaker 4: been okay. There are a few hiccups here and there, 626 00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:03,480 Speaker 4: but we've mostly worked those out. 627 00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:04,600 Speaker 3: Things are just okay. 628 00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:08,400 Speaker 4: It's great great, It's great to be in an okay relationship. 629 00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:08,880 Speaker 3: Right. 630 00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:11,639 Speaker 4: My boyfriend works in an office and makes pretty good money, 631 00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:13,720 Speaker 4: enough that both of us could live on it, as 632 00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:17,600 Speaker 4: he's always telling me unprompted. I, however, am on disability 633 00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:20,040 Speaker 4: and have been ever since I turned nineteen. I've had 634 00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:22,640 Speaker 4: little part time jobs here and there, but nothing too 635 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:25,640 Speaker 4: high paying or anything, as I would lose my disability. 636 00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:28,919 Speaker 4: By the way, this comes from user just another throwaway, 637 00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:30,600 Speaker 4: and if you want to submit your own stories, go 638 00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:33,680 Speaker 4: to the r slash Okay storytime suburdy. So we never 639 00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:37,440 Speaker 4: spoke much about how much either of us made or 640 00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:41,080 Speaker 4: where our income came from until three months ago when 641 00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:43,879 Speaker 4: he started talking about moving in together. A reason I 642 00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:46,680 Speaker 4: don't date much is because I'm always ashamed to tell 643 00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:50,040 Speaker 4: people where my income comes from, as my disability isn't 644 00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:53,080 Speaker 4: exactly something you can tell from just looking at me. 645 00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:55,240 Speaker 4: By the way, I've never asked him to pay anything 646 00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:58,480 Speaker 4: for me. We've often gotten coffee when we go out, 647 00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:01,000 Speaker 4: or one of us gets ut treat for the other. 648 00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:02,840 Speaker 4: I live at home right now and have told him 649 00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:05,000 Speaker 4: that I'm okay with moving in, but that I wouldn't 650 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:07,159 Speaker 4: be able to contribute as much as he would be 651 00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:07,560 Speaker 4: able to. 652 00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:08,600 Speaker 3: That prompted the. 653 00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:12,399 Speaker 4: Quote unquote serious talk about income. I told him how 654 00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:14,399 Speaker 4: I got my money, and he was quiet for a 655 00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:16,959 Speaker 4: long time. He said he never would have guessed, and 656 00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:20,240 Speaker 4: now my weird schedule made sense, and continue talking about 657 00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:23,120 Speaker 4: moving in together. Since I thought everything was okay, I agree, 658 00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:25,640 Speaker 4: and we started looking for places. This is where things 659 00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:28,800 Speaker 4: have started getting annoying and downright hurtful. We've seen a 660 00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:31,879 Speaker 4: few places since we started looking, but mostly we have 661 00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:35,040 Speaker 4: just been looking at places online. We'll be looking on 662 00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:37,600 Speaker 4: his laptop and see a place and start talking about 663 00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:39,879 Speaker 4: what each of us wants or doesn't want. Sometimes, if 664 00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:42,360 Speaker 4: I disagree with something he wants or doesn't want, he'll 665 00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:45,199 Speaker 4: joke and say something like, I'm not sure you. 666 00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:47,920 Speaker 3: Should have much to say about XYZ, as you won't. 667 00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:50,480 Speaker 4: Be paying as much as I will, or my money 668 00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:54,080 Speaker 4: talks louder than yours and says this is what we should. 669 00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:57,360 Speaker 3: Get or not get. That's not a partnership. Yeah, as 670 00:27:57,440 --> 00:27:59,800 Speaker 3: not a partnership. But see, but the part where all 671 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:00,520 Speaker 3: thing is that. 672 00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:04,120 Speaker 2: Then he laughs and says, ha, Brokie, you know, I'm 673 00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:04,760 Speaker 2: just joking. 674 00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:07,200 Speaker 3: I care about your opinions because you'll be living there, 675 00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:09,640 Speaker 3: but you're lying they don't. That doesn't hit as much 676 00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:12,760 Speaker 3: when you, uh, when you proceed it with your My 677 00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:14,040 Speaker 3: money dougs a lotterer than yours. 678 00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:16,679 Speaker 4: Actually, yeah, that's like you're not that's not really a 679 00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:18,920 Speaker 4: it's not really a joke. It's like throwing a water 680 00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:21,199 Speaker 4: balloon at someone and being like, you just kidding just 681 00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:23,160 Speaker 4: gets Will you already hit me with the balloon? 682 00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:26,920 Speaker 3: Too late? I'm wet. Can you undo it? Nope? Okay. 683 00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:30,960 Speaker 4: So twice as we've been looking at places, he's joked 684 00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:33,600 Speaker 4: to our potential landlord that they shouldn't ask me any 685 00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:35,880 Speaker 4: questions because the only thing I'm really doing what. 686 00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:38,960 Speaker 3: I said, Oh oh, I. 687 00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:42,000 Speaker 4: Thought I heard Kean say something because I am hallucinating 688 00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:43,480 Speaker 4: from how much caffeine I've had today. 689 00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:45,320 Speaker 5: Okay, nightmare, nightmare, nightmare. 690 00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:47,800 Speaker 4: So yeah, he's saying the landlord shouldn't ask me any 691 00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:49,960 Speaker 4: questions because the only thing I'm really doing is just 692 00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:52,040 Speaker 4: putting my name on the least or the rental agreement. 693 00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:53,600 Speaker 3: I've never felt so embarrassed in my life. 694 00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:55,080 Speaker 4: So I'll go off and look at the rest of 695 00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:57,240 Speaker 4: the place and avoid him and the landlord. This is 696 00:28:57,280 --> 00:28:59,719 Speaker 4: not the only thing, as he jokes about a lot 697 00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:02,400 Speaker 4: of things, especially since he found out about my income. 698 00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:05,080 Speaker 4: They'll say things like, I'm so tired after working all day. 699 00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:06,760 Speaker 4: I wish I could just sit around like you do. 700 00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:08,840 Speaker 4: Or it must be nice to get to sleep in 701 00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:10,640 Speaker 4: every day. I wish I could do that, but if 702 00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:12,800 Speaker 4: I don't work, I couldn't take care of myself. 703 00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:14,600 Speaker 3: And they all feel like little digs at me. 704 00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:18,080 Speaker 2: They are digs at you, they're big digs. He's an archaeologist, 705 00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:19,240 Speaker 2: then this is a big dig. 706 00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:22,360 Speaker 3: Well, I mean like that's like a log. I'm sorry, 707 00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:24,880 Speaker 3: that was great, Recognize that that was great. Thank you 708 00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:30,160 Speaker 3: that that was the limpest handshake. What happened getting in there? 709 00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:30,920 Speaker 3: There we go. 710 00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:33,440 Speaker 4: I do agree though, that it's like if you're with 711 00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:35,680 Speaker 4: a partner and they don't have to work and you 712 00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:38,280 Speaker 4: do have to work, Yeah, it is only natural for 713 00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:40,040 Speaker 4: you to be like, damn, I wish I could do that. 714 00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:42,560 Speaker 4: I literally can't sure, But it all comes down to 715 00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:43,640 Speaker 4: your intent and your. 716 00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:45,880 Speaker 3: Energy, and he's definitely disrespecting you. Yeah. 717 00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:49,040 Speaker 4: Now, I've known my boyfriend for almost two years. He 718 00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:51,280 Speaker 4: lived with his parents before we started dating, where he 719 00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:53,520 Speaker 4: didn't pay rent or help with bills, and didn't do 720 00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:55,800 Speaker 4: anything around the house. His mother and father will go 721 00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:57,800 Speaker 4: on and on and on about that if it comes up. 722 00:29:57,840 --> 00:29:59,040 Speaker 3: Even though he had a job. 723 00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:01,560 Speaker 4: He's also not good with saving so even though he 724 00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:03,640 Speaker 4: was living rent free at home, he did not have 725 00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:06,320 Speaker 4: anything saved up. I've helped my parents with bills and 726 00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:08,960 Speaker 4: helped around the house and have a very small savings. 727 00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:11,320 Speaker 4: Yet he keeps talking down on me as if all 728 00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:13,560 Speaker 4: I do is just sit at home all day, collect 729 00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:15,960 Speaker 4: a check and don't do anything with it. Believe me, 730 00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:18,800 Speaker 4: if I could work regularly like him, I would be working. 731 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:21,840 Speaker 4: It just seems like he's gotten super snobby or something 732 00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:24,760 Speaker 4: since this came to light, and it's been grating on 733 00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:28,120 Speaker 4: my nerves. I've spoken to him on numerous occasions about this, 734 00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:30,200 Speaker 4: but all he says is that I'm taking it too 735 00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:32,600 Speaker 4: seriously and making a big deal out of nothing, and 736 00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:35,280 Speaker 4: refuses to talk about it any further. So this is 737 00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:38,000 Speaker 4: like the classic and I was actually guilty of this. 738 00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:38,800 Speaker 3: In one of my. 739 00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:42,360 Speaker 4: Previous relationships of just being like, well, what, I'm just 740 00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:44,760 Speaker 4: kidding and then someone's being like, hey, but that made 741 00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:46,120 Speaker 4: me feel this way, and I'd be like, but I 742 00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:46,760 Speaker 4: was just kidding. 743 00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:49,600 Speaker 3: It's like intention doesn't matter, it's the effect. 744 00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:52,360 Speaker 4: It's like, oh wait, I'm oh, your feelings are getting here, Okay, 745 00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:55,040 Speaker 4: so I shouldn't kid around with you about that because 746 00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:57,640 Speaker 4: it's clear that it's just hurting your feelings. 747 00:30:58,000 --> 00:30:58,320 Speaker 2: It is. 748 00:30:58,440 --> 00:30:59,800 Speaker 3: It is. It's my fault. 749 00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:04,240 Speaker 2: It is the uh comedian rule. Your audience is not 750 00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:08,960 Speaker 2: at fault. You were just not delivering jokes that they like. Well. 751 00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:11,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, and especially if you're being a comedian in a 752 00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:14,280 Speaker 4: context where no one has paid to see you in 753 00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:16,840 Speaker 4: a room and you're just like hanging out. 754 00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:20,400 Speaker 3: You're not a comedian. You're just a guy talking to somebody. 755 00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:22,920 Speaker 3: You're in a comedian. But yes, but that still holds 756 00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:24,360 Speaker 3: if you're doing a joke. 757 00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:27,320 Speaker 2: And everyone's like, m you can't be like you guys suck. 758 00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:28,560 Speaker 3: It's literally the worst. 759 00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:31,320 Speaker 4: I went to a show Riley into a show where 760 00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:34,920 Speaker 4: the host did that and turned the entire room against you. 761 00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:37,400 Speaker 4: Everyone in the show yeah, because he was like, you 762 00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:39,200 Speaker 4: guys all paid to be here. You know that, right, 763 00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:41,280 Speaker 4: you can laugh, And everyone was just like, who is 764 00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:42,360 Speaker 4: this guy? Get him out of you? 765 00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:42,920 Speaker 3: Yeah? 766 00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:45,280 Speaker 1: Anyway, hey, Sam, we're gonna get back to the stories. 767 00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:47,280 Speaker 1: But here's three minutes of bads from our sponsors. 768 00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:50,400 Speaker 4: So I've asked if he is fine with the fact 769 00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:53,480 Speaker 4: that I don't work regularly, and he says he's fine 770 00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:55,440 Speaker 4: with it, and that of course he makes enough for 771 00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:58,480 Speaker 4: both of us to live on, so it's not a problem. However, again, 772 00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:01,160 Speaker 4: he'll throw in a dig and undo anything good. 773 00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:01,640 Speaker 3: He said. 774 00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:04,480 Speaker 4: This is the reason I hate dating in relationships, because 775 00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:06,960 Speaker 4: unless you've got some amazing jobs somewhere, people think you're 776 00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:09,200 Speaker 4: just some slob or something. And it makes me feel 777 00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:12,000 Speaker 4: so so bad, like I don't deserve to be dating anyone. 778 00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:14,640 Speaker 4: And while I've thought about leaving, I keep thinking I 779 00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:17,400 Speaker 4: shouldn't leave because will I ever find another guy who's 780 00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:19,840 Speaker 4: okay with my income? And before you get into this edit, 781 00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:21,480 Speaker 4: I think I just need to say, oh, you haven't 782 00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:22,200 Speaker 4: found that guy. 783 00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:23,080 Speaker 3: Just have you. 784 00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:25,800 Speaker 4: Talked to your partner about your disability though, because you've 785 00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:28,280 Speaker 4: said that it's not something that you can really see 786 00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:30,840 Speaker 4: on the surface, But like, have you explained to your 787 00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:33,680 Speaker 4: partner that it's like, hey, I'm on disability because of 788 00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:37,680 Speaker 4: this thing, not just because I'm like, you know, lazy, 789 00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:39,320 Speaker 4: I want to sleep in all day. 790 00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:42,040 Speaker 3: I have a thing. We don't know what it is. 791 00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:44,320 Speaker 2: We don't well, I think the first step would be 792 00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:47,080 Speaker 2: to have that conversation. However, the fact that he's all right, 793 00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:49,480 Speaker 2: he's not even been a little bit curious about why 794 00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:52,400 Speaker 2: this is your setup and is instead kind of saying 795 00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:54,680 Speaker 2: that he's fine with it, but also guilting you and 796 00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:57,360 Speaker 2: making you feel bad and less, then that's not a 797 00:32:57,560 --> 00:32:59,600 Speaker 2: I mean, even the way that he's talking about their 798 00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:04,080 Speaker 2: relationship like it's going, okay, oh why dating sucks, It's 799 00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:07,360 Speaker 2: like she's already kind of checked out at this relationship 800 00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:07,840 Speaker 2: a little bit. 801 00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:11,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just a it could be a case. 802 00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:14,840 Speaker 4: So like, you attract what you like, are man, if 803 00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:17,800 Speaker 4: you're or what's it called, sorry, I'm butchering this, you 804 00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:21,400 Speaker 4: see what you expect. So if like, if you're expecting 805 00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:25,480 Speaker 4: somebody to like think less of you for being on disability, 806 00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:29,920 Speaker 4: you're even more likely to perceive disrespect, you know, towards 807 00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:32,200 Speaker 4: your disability. And I'm not saying that that's what's happening, 808 00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:34,360 Speaker 4: just saying that if you're walking into something like and 809 00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:36,440 Speaker 4: as soon as he finds out him on disability, now 810 00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:39,160 Speaker 4: he's gonna completely think differently of me. You'll probably find 811 00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:42,640 Speaker 4: reasons or like, you'll see things that make you think, oh, 812 00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:45,200 Speaker 4: now he thinks differently or less of me. And it 813 00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:47,560 Speaker 4: might not be true, but I mean, clearly he's giving. 814 00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:50,760 Speaker 4: He's giving in this context, in this situation that it 815 00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:53,000 Speaker 4: sounds like, yeah, it sounds like he's trying to just 816 00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:53,440 Speaker 4: play it all. 817 00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:55,320 Speaker 3: I don't think that every like Pie's like, Oh, everyone's 818 00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:57,440 Speaker 3: gonna do that. I don't think everyone will do that exactly. Yeah, 819 00:33:57,520 --> 00:33:58,800 Speaker 3: let's find out more in the edit. 820 00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:01,240 Speaker 4: So thank you all for your comments, and to anyone 821 00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:03,200 Speaker 4: I couldn't get back to. I've just got a lot 822 00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:05,280 Speaker 4: on my mind to think about after reading all these comments, 823 00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:06,640 Speaker 4: and some things have come to my attention. 824 00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:09,160 Speaker 3: I think the situation is actually more serious than I 825 00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:09,920 Speaker 3: thought it was. 826 00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:11,960 Speaker 4: That he was just mean when it came to joking, 827 00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:14,560 Speaker 4: but apparently this is a sign of verbal and emotional abuse, 828 00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:16,360 Speaker 4: and I just know I don't want to be in 829 00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:18,399 Speaker 4: a situation like that. I'm going to talk to him 830 00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:20,120 Speaker 4: and see what he has to say and go from there, 831 00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:23,560 Speaker 4: Thank you all again. Comment number one here we have 832 00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:26,279 Speaker 4: some comments. His joking is really showing you what he 833 00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:28,600 Speaker 4: thinks of you, and if he will not stop after 834 00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:30,560 Speaker 4: you have asked him more than once, even then, it 835 00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:33,000 Speaker 4: says how little he respects you. At this time, I 836 00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:35,120 Speaker 4: say do not move in with him. You will regret 837 00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:37,440 Speaker 4: it because he will make those comments every time something 838 00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:39,799 Speaker 4: needs to be paid, and every opinion you have will 839 00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:42,319 Speaker 4: be vetoed because he pays for such and such. If 840 00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:44,480 Speaker 4: you like or love him, then just tell him. His 841 00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:46,840 Speaker 4: actions show you that you two are not quite ready 842 00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:49,440 Speaker 4: to live together, but maybe still need time to just 843 00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:52,480 Speaker 4: date for a longer period. Comment too, quoting back Opee, 844 00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:54,520 Speaker 4: And while I've thought about leaving, I keep thinking I 845 00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:57,320 Speaker 4: shouldn't leave because will I ever find another guy who's. 846 00:34:57,120 --> 00:34:58,000 Speaker 3: Okay with my income? 847 00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:00,720 Speaker 4: Look, I'm going to say something really really blund that applies, 848 00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:05,320 Speaker 4: in my fairly uneducated opinion, to a lot of absolutist thinking. 849 00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:08,720 Speaker 4: Even if this is the case, So what, you break 850 00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:10,160 Speaker 4: up with someone and you'll be alone? 851 00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:11,480 Speaker 3: Okay, shrug? 852 00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:14,800 Speaker 4: Except for like any friends you've made, any family you haven't, 853 00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:17,080 Speaker 4: anyone you might meet, being with someone who makes you 854 00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:19,759 Speaker 4: feel degraded. Who makes you feel lonely is worse than 855 00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:21,879 Speaker 4: actually being alone a lot of the time. I mean, 856 00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:24,680 Speaker 4: obviously we all need social contact, but when you are 857 00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:28,640 Speaker 4: alone you can make tea so true that is a 858 00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:33,720 Speaker 4: great point. You can paint right to projects, watch TV, chill, 859 00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:36,839 Speaker 4: go for a walk, like literally whatever, what about being 860 00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:40,040 Speaker 4: alone is so scary? Ope, the answer is different for everyone, 861 00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:43,200 Speaker 4: Opee replies. I guess I just let my thinking get 862 00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:46,000 Speaker 4: in my way. Not to mention the few relationships I've had, 863 00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:48,239 Speaker 4: they all fell apart once the income thing came up. 864 00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:50,359 Speaker 4: And I do plan to talk to him one more 865 00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:54,120 Speaker 4: time and let him know I'm completely serious about him 866 00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:56,719 Speaker 4: stopping these jokes because they aren't funny to me in 867 00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:57,400 Speaker 4: any way. 868 00:35:57,600 --> 00:35:58,960 Speaker 3: And we do have an update. I thank you. 869 00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:02,560 Speaker 2: I'm just communication and got to communicate first. And if 870 00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:06,319 Speaker 2: that doesn't work, then yeah, this is not the relationship 871 00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:09,600 Speaker 2: for you. It shouldn't be like, oh, well, I'll never 872 00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:12,200 Speaker 2: find anyone who's completely fine with it, so I might 873 00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:14,680 Speaker 2: as well settle for this guy who's like kind of 874 00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:17,920 Speaker 2: fine with it but makes me feel really bad about it, Like. 875 00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:19,680 Speaker 3: Let's not settle for slop. 876 00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:22,520 Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, it is, you know, this is the 877 00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:27,040 Speaker 4: communication is everything here. It's like, you need to explain 878 00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:29,600 Speaker 4: exactly how you feel, you need to explain exactly what 879 00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:32,239 Speaker 4: your situation is. And it's like, cause you know, there's 880 00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:36,000 Speaker 4: a certain male love language that has had Keon knows 881 00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:36,879 Speaker 4: this because I. 882 00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:38,799 Speaker 3: Do it to him all the time. Was that where 883 00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:41,680 Speaker 3: we degrade each other. Oh, I love it ruthlessly. 884 00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:43,560 Speaker 5: It's friendly bullying. 885 00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:45,319 Speaker 3: And then we smile and hug and kiss about it. 886 00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:46,640 Speaker 5: Yeah, pretty much. 887 00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:50,960 Speaker 2: And so sometimes between male and female like. 888 00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:54,319 Speaker 4: That'll get lost, like it's can it can happen? And 889 00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:56,160 Speaker 4: I'm not trying to give this guy an excuse. 890 00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:58,160 Speaker 5: I mean I do it with Carly from time design 891 00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:00,400 Speaker 5: and she does it back to me. Sometimes we're like whoa, 892 00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:02,279 Speaker 5: and we're like no, we're just joking, like okay, I 893 00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:05,640 Speaker 5: love you. And it's finding this one's too right. 894 00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:08,400 Speaker 4: Because she's she's told him where the boundaries are and 895 00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:11,239 Speaker 4: he's still not listening, which makes it not okay. He's 896 00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:14,600 Speaker 4: just being disrespectful. Yeah, but there is a chance he's 897 00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:17,720 Speaker 4: just rock brain not getting this. But if she's already 898 00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:20,200 Speaker 4: told him doesn't mean that it's not a reason to 899 00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:22,200 Speaker 4: be concerned with the relationship again. 900 00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:23,879 Speaker 3: It's that mindset. If do you want to date a rock, 901 00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:24,560 Speaker 3: it's that mindset. 902 00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:26,440 Speaker 5: To Coda was like, hey stop it that hurts my 903 00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:28,120 Speaker 5: feelings of like, no, I'm tripled downing. 904 00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:34,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like I'm getting somewhere. If you tell you're brosky, 905 00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:36,880 Speaker 4: that's something hurt your feelings. They're like you're goodness, I 906 00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:38,279 Speaker 4: know where they. 907 00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:40,239 Speaker 3: I found it. 908 00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:42,440 Speaker 5: I'm under your skin. Now I'm going to be in 909 00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:43,040 Speaker 5: your skin. 910 00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:45,840 Speaker 4: But let's get into this update. The bugs are in 911 00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:49,160 Speaker 4: your skin update. I spoke to my boyfriend the day 912 00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:51,640 Speaker 4: after I responded to a lot of you. I decided 913 00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:56,759 Speaker 4: I was going sorry, I just saw Carly's comment. Carly says, 914 00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:58,800 Speaker 4: I just look at Kean and go, why do you 915 00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:01,200 Speaker 4: hate me? I decided I was going to talk to 916 00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:03,680 Speaker 4: him one more time and set a boundary about these 917 00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:06,600 Speaker 4: jokes that he was telling, or tell him I wasn't 918 00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:08,360 Speaker 4: moving in with him and that maybe we need to 919 00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:10,840 Speaker 4: reevaluate the relationship. I told him I wanted to have 920 00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:14,160 Speaker 4: a serious discussion, and he immediately asked if I wanted 921 00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:16,319 Speaker 4: to break up with him, because he figured it was coming. 922 00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:19,880 Speaker 4: I was taken aback because I didn't expect that reaction. 923 00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:22,080 Speaker 4: I didn't say anything at first, but then I told 924 00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:23,680 Speaker 4: him that I wanted to talk to him about his 925 00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:26,759 Speaker 4: jokes and honestly, his behavior in general when it comes 926 00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:28,880 Speaker 4: to people and making fun of them in such a 927 00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:33,279 Speaker 4: mean way, especially when they've asked him to stop. I 928 00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:36,280 Speaker 4: also did a little reading on verbal abuse and abuse 929 00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:38,239 Speaker 4: in general, and things were a lot more clear. So 930 00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:40,160 Speaker 4: he listened to me, and then he told me that 931 00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:42,680 Speaker 4: he didn't like people trying to change him, and that 932 00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:44,719 Speaker 4: his last girlfriend had tried to do the same and 933 00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:46,919 Speaker 4: she couldn't accept him for who he was. He thought 934 00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:50,200 Speaker 4: I would be different because I was more understanding and fun. 935 00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:52,880 Speaker 4: I'll admit that is probably one of my flaws, that 936 00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:55,600 Speaker 4: I try to understand everyone's position about most things and 937 00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:58,640 Speaker 4: give them far too many chances. There are exceptions, but 938 00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:00,680 Speaker 4: for the most part, I will try to understand someone 939 00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:03,080 Speaker 4: and work with them on it. I asked him if 940 00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:06,440 Speaker 4: his ex and the overweight friend were the only ones 941 00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:09,440 Speaker 4: who had left him over this behavior. He told me 942 00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:12,440 Speaker 4: that he'd lost a lot of friends and dating was 943 00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:15,600 Speaker 4: hard because women tended to cut out pretty quickly. Again, 944 00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:18,480 Speaker 4: in his words, because people are too sensitive. 945 00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:18,959 Speaker 3: And want him to change. 946 00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:19,480 Speaker 4: How he is. 947 00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:25,600 Speaker 3: I hate this, thank dude, thinking of I shouldn't have 948 00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:29,279 Speaker 3: to change who I am. I'm perfect the way I am. 949 00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:30,600 Speaker 3: It's like we whoa. 950 00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:34,640 Speaker 4: It's like no, no, yeah, Like clearly you're pushing people 951 00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:38,840 Speaker 4: away because you're very abrasive and you're insulting people. 952 00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:40,200 Speaker 3: And you're being a bully. 953 00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:40,680 Speaker 2: Yeah. 954 00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:43,880 Speaker 3: Well that's why you don't have friends or bullying your friends. 955 00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:45,360 Speaker 3: Oh and then they leave you. 956 00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:49,560 Speaker 2: It's like when everyone leaves you continuously, maybe there's a 957 00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:50,719 Speaker 2: common thread. 958 00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:55,439 Speaker 3: Here and everyone else's fault. Everyone else isn't cool enough 959 00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:57,160 Speaker 3: to hang with my sick burns. 960 00:39:57,280 --> 00:39:59,840 Speaker 4: And he's probably just like calling his overweight friend like 961 00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:04,319 Speaker 4: just like what's up, fatty mcfatterson fatty pants, And they're like, hey, 962 00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:07,520 Speaker 4: that actually really bothers me and hurts my feelings. 963 00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:11,759 Speaker 3: And then he's just like shut up it. Yeah uh. 964 00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:13,600 Speaker 3: And then they're like, all right, well, I guess I'll 965 00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:16,440 Speaker 3: stop paying out with you. And he's like, why is 966 00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:19,960 Speaker 3: the world so cruel to funny people? Yeah, it's like 967 00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:24,480 Speaker 3: you're bad at comedy ban Yeah lord, Okay. 968 00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:28,840 Speaker 4: So he seemed very stuck on being accepted as he 969 00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:32,480 Speaker 4: is and angry about people trying to change him. I 970 00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:35,680 Speaker 4: changed direction and asked him if he actually thought anything 971 00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:38,160 Speaker 4: was wrong with what he said. I used my experience 972 00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:40,920 Speaker 4: specifically and told him about how I felt when we 973 00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:43,279 Speaker 4: were looking at places, and he said what he said 974 00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:46,040 Speaker 4: to the potential landlords and for anyone who was not 975 00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:48,280 Speaker 4: here when we were talking about that part of the story, 976 00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:50,919 Speaker 4: he was basically telling the landlords, don't talk the little 977 00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:54,000 Speaker 4: miss broke girl over here. She's not even making any money. 978 00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:56,680 Speaker 4: I'm the one making the decisions, so just let her 979 00:40:56,760 --> 00:40:57,719 Speaker 4: wander around, just. 980 00:40:57,760 --> 00:41:02,120 Speaker 2: Crazy because she is providing money like she's getting disability checks. 981 00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:04,800 Speaker 2: So he of course said that they. 982 00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:07,320 Speaker 4: Were just jokes and that he'd never think less of 983 00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:09,239 Speaker 4: me because of how much money I made, because he 984 00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:11,680 Speaker 4: kind of figured I didn't make a lot because of 985 00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:14,960 Speaker 4: how I tended to do things. I asked him to elaborate, 986 00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:17,320 Speaker 4: and he said how I was always on things like 987 00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:21,160 Speaker 4: groupon or using coupons at stores, or wanting to go 988 00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:23,719 Speaker 4: out when places had specials or something, and he was 989 00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:25,400 Speaker 4: never around anyone who needed to. 990 00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:26,239 Speaker 3: Do that type of thing. 991 00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:29,719 Speaker 4: It's like, yeah, I'm completely the concept of saving money 992 00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:30,360 Speaker 4: is alien. 993 00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:32,640 Speaker 3: Do you understand? I don't know. I don't get Yeah, 994 00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:33,360 Speaker 3: it's weird. 995 00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:38,359 Speaker 4: I figured you had to be flat broke because coupons coupons. 996 00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:38,960 Speaker 3: Yeah. 997 00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:42,719 Speaker 4: So I told him that I did think he has 998 00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:45,000 Speaker 4: a problem with people who earn less and don't live 999 00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:47,160 Speaker 4: a similar lifestyle to him, and that maybe he just 1000 00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:49,440 Speaker 4: didn't see it. That sometimes we are trying to be 1001 00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:52,000 Speaker 4: good because we have these thoughts of how we should 1002 00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:53,719 Speaker 4: be on the surface, and we try to follow them, 1003 00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:56,280 Speaker 4: but when it's more close to home, our real feelings 1004 00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:58,520 Speaker 4: come out because we're faced with it more. I told 1005 00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:00,480 Speaker 4: him that it was okay, but that I didn't think 1006 00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:02,160 Speaker 4: it would work for us, that he might be more 1007 00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:04,319 Speaker 4: comfortable with someone who makes the same amount as him 1008 00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:06,840 Speaker 4: and can contribute how he'd like. He interrupted me and 1009 00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:08,840 Speaker 4: told me he didn't want someone like that because he 1010 00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:12,600 Speaker 4: couldn't be himself around someone obsessed with money and material things, 1011 00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:15,560 Speaker 4: which is not what I said, by the way, which 1012 00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:18,040 Speaker 4: is like, yeah, she's just like, maybe you should be 1013 00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:20,719 Speaker 4: with someone who makes the same amount of money as 1014 00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:23,080 Speaker 4: you because you seem like really fixated on it. He's like, well, 1015 00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:25,799 Speaker 4: I could possibly do that, because that means that they're 1016 00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:27,640 Speaker 4: just completely materialistic. 1017 00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:27,959 Speaker 3: And obsessed with money. 1018 00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:30,359 Speaker 2: Yeah. So then he circles back around, so he makes 1019 00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:31,960 Speaker 2: one of you for ring broke, and then if someone 1020 00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:33,840 Speaker 2: has money, he's like, you're he'd. 1021 00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:38,080 Speaker 3: Go, you you love money, You're the worst, You're so greedy? 1022 00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:42,520 Speaker 3: Just weird because is that a projection or like, I 1023 00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:44,840 Speaker 3: have no idea, just like a I think he just 1024 00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:48,279 Speaker 3: wants to critique everyone around. He's a terrible listener, a 1025 00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:49,920 Speaker 3: horrendous listener. 1026 00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:53,120 Speaker 4: So he was saying that these money obsessed people would 1027 00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:56,080 Speaker 4: be too concerned with money, and he liked me because 1028 00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:58,600 Speaker 4: I wasn't that way. I kind of ignored that, but 1029 00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:00,560 Speaker 4: it kind of told me that he either doesn't want 1030 00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:02,839 Speaker 4: someone who has as much power in the relationship as 1031 00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:05,000 Speaker 4: he has, or he thinks women who want more or 1032 00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:07,520 Speaker 4: expect more of him are gold diggers or something trying 1033 00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:09,200 Speaker 4: to take advantage of him in some way. 1034 00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:09,759 Speaker 3: I don't know. 1035 00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:13,160 Speaker 4: Anyway, I continued and even told him that if he 1036 00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:15,759 Speaker 4: felt they were just jokes, they were wearing on me 1037 00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:21,400 Speaker 4: and myself esteem and I couldn't live that way, regardless. 1038 00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:21,600 Speaker 3: Of his intent. 1039 00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:24,400 Speaker 4: I also told him that it's natural for people to 1040 00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:26,440 Speaker 4: not want to change when they've been a certain way 1041 00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:28,920 Speaker 4: for a long time, and so it seems right to us, 1042 00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:31,960 Speaker 4: but that change can be good and that maybe therapy 1043 00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:34,279 Speaker 4: could be good at helping with that. I told him 1044 00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:36,319 Speaker 4: that it's wonderful to be accepted for who you are, 1045 00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:39,719 Speaker 4: but if who you are is well clownish, people are 1046 00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:42,520 Speaker 4: a lot less likely to accept you unless they are 1047 00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:43,480 Speaker 4: also clowns. 1048 00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:44,760 Speaker 3: Who you're a sucks. 1049 00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:46,840 Speaker 4: Well. Wait, I want to know what the actual word was, 1050 00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:49,040 Speaker 4: because I think clown was an edit there. I don't 1051 00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:52,880 Speaker 4: think so, because it's clown space. S oh, because I 1052 00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:56,000 Speaker 4: was about to say I'm a clown. People tend to 1053 00:43:56,200 --> 00:44:01,080 Speaker 4: like that idiots, but it could be. Yeah, but look, 1054 00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:03,240 Speaker 4: this guy's not being inn or a clown. 1055 00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:04,240 Speaker 3: He's just being. 1056 00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:08,680 Speaker 4: He's just being like because it's you know again the 1057 00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:14,040 Speaker 4: comedy philosophy, there are rules of engagement for conversation that 1058 00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:18,040 Speaker 4: like exist, like you're not just like a stand up 1059 00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:22,000 Speaker 4: routine walking around your life. Like when people make the 1060 00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:25,120 Speaker 4: social contract to go to a comedy show, they understand 1061 00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:25,640 Speaker 4: people might. 1062 00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:27,960 Speaker 2: Say things that hurt their feelings or disagree with Sure, 1063 00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:29,560 Speaker 2: if you're standing in the front row, you might you 1064 00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:30,400 Speaker 2: might get made fun of. 1065 00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:34,000 Speaker 4: Social contract just talking to your friends different. They're not 1066 00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:36,880 Speaker 4: paying any money to listen to you anyway, and nothing 1067 00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:39,280 Speaker 4: good can come from a bunch of clowns getting together 1068 00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:42,200 Speaker 4: because they'll be toxic to other people as well as 1069 00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:44,520 Speaker 4: to each other. Yeah, dude, when a bunch of clowns 1070 00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:47,560 Speaker 4: get together, start fighting, Oh, they start squirting those little 1071 00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:49,040 Speaker 4: those little water flowers at each other. 1072 00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:52,040 Speaker 3: What is it gets brutal? I was trying to do. Yeah, 1073 00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:58,000 Speaker 3: but I think I was trying to think that anyway. 1074 00:44:58,239 --> 00:45:03,000 Speaker 3: And there the shoes, Oh the shoes. Those kicks are brutal. Yeah. 1075 00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:06,160 Speaker 4: So I told him I think he is better than that, 1076 00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:10,360 Speaker 4: that he deserves much better that any woman he truly loves, 1077 00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:13,360 Speaker 4: deserves much better than being verbally mistreated and made to 1078 00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:16,359 Speaker 4: feel like they aren't his equal or worthy. He sat 1079 00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:18,600 Speaker 4: there and didn't say anything for a while, just looked 1080 00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:19,759 Speaker 4: at me and sighed a lot. 1081 00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:22,279 Speaker 3: Oh. I was almost like I was, Oh, I was like, 1082 00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:25,480 Speaker 3: maybe is it hitting? Is it sinking in? No, but 1083 00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:32,600 Speaker 3: he's going acu freaking cater to your sensitive sensitivities. Can't 1084 00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:36,319 Speaker 3: believe my girlfriend's not funny, dude, she doesn't even get Hey, 1085 00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:36,839 Speaker 3: it's John here. 1086 00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:38,600 Speaker 4: We're gonna get back to this episode, but a quick 1087 00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:42,080 Speaker 4: three minute break with the aswermar sponsors. He finally said 1088 00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:47,240 Speaker 4: he was disappointed in me wanting to abandon him because 1089 00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:49,440 Speaker 4: he thought we were true soulmates and he couldn't believe 1090 00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:51,680 Speaker 4: I was saying such harmful stuff about him. 1091 00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:55,840 Speaker 2: This man, unfortunately, is never going to learn that he 1092 00:45:56,040 --> 00:45:58,600 Speaker 2: is the problem because it is so out of the 1093 00:45:58,719 --> 00:45:59,880 Speaker 2: realm of possibility. 1094 00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:04,239 Speaker 4: Brother's getting his own feelings hurt right now and being like, hey, 1095 00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:07,759 Speaker 4: stop and not understanding that's exactly what. 1096 00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:10,879 Speaker 3: Everyone else in his life asked. Yeah, oh my god. 1097 00:46:11,719 --> 00:46:14,920 Speaker 4: Oh but yeah, buddy, you got to start dating your 1098 00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:16,760 Speaker 4: own reflection and just ponder. 1099 00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:20,560 Speaker 3: You got to ponder for a long time. Oh oh. 1100 00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:24,600 Speaker 4: I was shocked he was calling me harmful because I 1101 00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:27,359 Speaker 4: didn't think I was harming him at all by telling 1102 00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:29,440 Speaker 4: him why I don't want to continue if this is 1103 00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:31,719 Speaker 4: how he will act, and that the way he acts 1104 00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:34,200 Speaker 4: is well, not good. Maybe I went a little far 1105 00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:37,399 Speaker 4: and saying anything about a future girlfriend, but I guess 1106 00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:40,840 Speaker 4: I wanted to impress upon him that if his friends 1107 00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:45,399 Speaker 4: and partners keep leaving because of his behavior, everyone will 1108 00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:46,400 Speaker 4: keep leaving. 1109 00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:48,360 Speaker 3: If the behavior doesn't. 1110 00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:51,200 Speaker 4: Change, the only partners willing to stay will be someone 1111 00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:53,360 Speaker 4: who dishes it just as well as they take it 1112 00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:56,200 Speaker 4: and he knows he's actually very sensitive and wouldn't like that, 1113 00:46:57,080 --> 00:46:59,719 Speaker 4: or it'll be someone who lacks any self esteem and 1114 00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:02,560 Speaker 4: he'll make her feel even worse about herself until she 1115 00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:05,680 Speaker 4: breaks down like I could feel myself getting to that point, 1116 00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:08,960 Speaker 4: and that's why I'm so angry and frustrated, not only 1117 00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:11,080 Speaker 4: with the fact that he was now turning all of 1118 00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:13,480 Speaker 4: this around to me being a beautiful but that he 1119 00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:16,680 Speaker 4: still didn't really seem to get what I was saying 1120 00:47:16,719 --> 00:47:20,120 Speaker 4: about my feelings. It made me realize, yes, I need 1121 00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:22,959 Speaker 4: to leave this situation, and I do feel bad about 1122 00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:25,360 Speaker 4: it because I do feel like I'm abandoning. 1123 00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:27,640 Speaker 3: Him, which you're not. He's pushed you away, but yeah, 1124 00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:29,200 Speaker 3: quite literally yep. 1125 00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:32,120 Speaker 4: At the same time, it just doesn't seem like my 1126 00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:35,839 Speaker 4: feelings or anyone else's for that matter, are important to him, 1127 00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:38,040 Speaker 4: So why should I stay with someone who doesn't seem 1128 00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:41,879 Speaker 4: to get that His behavior isn't exactly such that gets 1129 00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:45,320 Speaker 4: people to stay in his life. I realized I probably 1130 00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:47,640 Speaker 4: wasn't going to get through to him, and the conversation 1131 00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:52,400 Speaker 4: itself had me shaking because I was upset and disappointed myself. However, 1132 00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:55,440 Speaker 4: looking back, I could see signs that this is who 1133 00:47:55,520 --> 00:47:58,600 Speaker 4: he is. Other people's feelings just don't mean a lot 1134 00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:01,000 Speaker 4: to him. And doing some soul searching, I realized that 1135 00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:04,080 Speaker 4: I thought he would change over time, but waiting on 1136 00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:06,839 Speaker 4: that is wearing on me, and our last conversation tells 1137 00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:09,160 Speaker 4: me that he doesn't see anything wrong with what he does, 1138 00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:12,439 Speaker 4: so it's unlikely he will ever change. He didn't seem 1139 00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:15,280 Speaker 4: interested in saying anything else besides that he was sorry 1140 00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:15,719 Speaker 4: I felt the. 1141 00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:19,240 Speaker 3: Way I did, which is like infuriating again the most. 1142 00:48:19,160 --> 00:48:22,920 Speaker 4: Like sorry, hey, sorry your feelings for her? Yeah, sorry 1143 00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:25,120 Speaker 4: that your feelings are making you feel that way, not 1144 00:48:25,239 --> 00:48:28,160 Speaker 4: my problem. Sorry, sorry, sorry that you don't have your 1145 00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:29,040 Speaker 4: habit together. 1146 00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:29,560 Speaker 3: My bad. 1147 00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:32,040 Speaker 4: I told him that I thought we needed to give 1148 00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:35,040 Speaker 4: up on things and find someone better for ourselves elsewhere. 1149 00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:37,640 Speaker 4: He didn't say anything, so I just left. A few 1150 00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:40,160 Speaker 4: hours later, I got a confusing text from him telling 1151 00:48:40,239 --> 00:48:42,680 Speaker 4: me that he hadn't seen who I was and that 1152 00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:45,719 Speaker 4: I had harmful tendencies. I didn't respond, and I just 1153 00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:46,319 Speaker 4: blocked him. 1154 00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:50,080 Speaker 3: Hey, god, yeah, he's he's not gonna understand anything. 1155 00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:53,680 Speaker 4: Uh. Yes, I blocked him on everything. I'm sad things 1156 00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:55,360 Speaker 4: ended the way they did, but it was probably for 1157 00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:58,520 Speaker 4: the best. It'll either be good alone or I'll find 1158 00:48:58,640 --> 00:49:00,600 Speaker 4: someone who I work better with. And I want to 1159 00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:02,480 Speaker 4: give a huge thank you to everyone who commented on 1160 00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:04,759 Speaker 4: my last post, and sorry if I didn't get back 1161 00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:07,000 Speaker 4: to anyone. I've been quite torn up over this, even 1162 00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:09,160 Speaker 4: though it was my decision. I miss him more as 1163 00:49:09,200 --> 00:49:11,399 Speaker 4: a friend than a partner, but I don't think being 1164 00:49:11,480 --> 00:49:13,840 Speaker 4: friends would work out too well either, so I'm just 1165 00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:16,880 Speaker 4: leaving it. But you know what, you never really have 1166 00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:20,640 Speaker 4: to leave. You can always just grab it full episodes 1167 00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:23,120 Speaker 4: with stories just like this that you can listen to 1168 00:49:23,600 --> 00:49:27,120 Speaker 4: at any time, any place, so long as you have 1169 00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:32,160 Speaker 4: a mobile listening device and access to Spotify, Apple Podcasts, iHeartRadio, 1170 00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:36,680 Speaker 4: literally any podcast platform of your choice. Just search, Okay, storytime, 1171 00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:38,759 Speaker 4: you can listen to everything we've ever said. 1172 00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:40,879 Speaker 3: It's true, It's freaking true. 1173 00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:43,319 Speaker 4: It's a monumental task, and we've got a little bit 1174 00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:44,640 Speaker 4: of story left here. 1175 00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:48,520 Speaker 3: I think we've yeah, you know, we already said, you tried. 1176 00:49:48,680 --> 00:49:49,719 Speaker 3: You have the conversation. 1177 00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:53,879 Speaker 2: He's not listening, so you're no longer responsible to teach 1178 00:49:53,960 --> 00:49:55,720 Speaker 2: him how to be a nice person. 1179 00:49:56,080 --> 00:49:59,080 Speaker 4: And it's it's a real shame because you know, it 1180 00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:01,840 Speaker 4: sounded for the whole story like he just needs to 1181 00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:03,800 Speaker 4: be with someone who like is going to roast the 1182 00:50:04,040 --> 00:50:05,719 Speaker 4: ever loving crap out of him. 1183 00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:08,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, and someone can get it, but he can't take it. 1184 00:50:08,239 --> 00:50:11,200 Speaker 2: Which think he can't even take a person who is 1185 00:50:11,360 --> 00:50:14,480 Speaker 2: like that to be the guy who dishes all that stuff, 1186 00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:16,000 Speaker 2: and then you can't take any of it. 1187 00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:21,040 Speaker 4: You're like, you're you're fundamentally operating from an incorrect place. 1188 00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:24,080 Speaker 3: You know, don't be this guy. Does what I would 1189 00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:27,960 Speaker 3: say to everyone watching and listening much better this guy. 1190 00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:32,360 Speaker 4: So he didn't seem interested in saying anything else besides 1191 00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:33,080 Speaker 4: that he was sorry. 1192 00:50:33,120 --> 00:50:37,200 Speaker 3: I felt the way I oh wait what hold on? 1193 00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:41,160 Speaker 3: Oh I think he just copied guess what that was 1194 00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:42,839 Speaker 3: the end of the story. Yep, don't be that guy. 1195 00:50:43,120 --> 00:50:46,319 Speaker 3: Don't be that guy the story. Don't be that guy. 1196 00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:50,800 Speaker 3: Do not be that guy. But no, no, we're not 1197 00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:51,640 Speaker 3: doing this. We're not doing this. 1198 00:50:53,080 --> 00:50:53,120 Speaker 5: No. 1199 00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:57,120 Speaker 3: But that's the end of the episode. 1200 00:50:57,400 --> 00:51:02,040 Speaker 2: So if you love us, make or you subscribe, we 1201 00:51:02,880 --> 00:51:05,680 Speaker 2: love you at CR