1 00:00:04,480 --> 00:00:07,840 Speaker 1: Welcome into the Lounge presented by DraftKings. I'm Ryan mink 2 00:00:07,840 --> 00:00:11,720 Speaker 1: here with Garrett Downing, fresh off basically a bye weekend 3 00:00:11,720 --> 00:00:14,920 Speaker 1: for the Ravens, the long weekend without a game following 4 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:18,200 Speaker 1: the Ravens Christmas win over the Houston Texans, and the 5 00:00:18,320 --> 00:00:20,599 Speaker 1: landscape has changed a little bit in terms of what 6 00:00:20,640 --> 00:00:23,640 Speaker 1: the playoff picture looks like for the Ravens. So we're 7 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:25,880 Speaker 1: gonna break all that down and hit some other news 8 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:27,920 Speaker 1: from the weekend, and Garrett, the Ravens are in a 9 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:31,680 Speaker 1: great position. They beat the Browns in the regular season finale. 10 00:00:31,760 --> 00:00:35,360 Speaker 1: They are the AFC North champions, hosting a wild card 11 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:38,879 Speaker 1: playoff game here at M and T Banks Stadium. That 12 00:00:39,040 --> 00:00:43,040 Speaker 1: is obviously the goal. Who they will play who or 13 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:45,240 Speaker 1: who they would play in the first round of the 14 00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:50,239 Speaker 1: playoffs in that scenario is looking most likely like the 15 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:52,879 Speaker 1: Los Angeles Chargers. So the Ravens will beat the three seed. 16 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:55,600 Speaker 1: That means they play the sixth seed. Right now, the 17 00:00:55,720 --> 00:00:58,720 Speaker 1: Chargers are in position for the sixth seed right now. 18 00:00:58,760 --> 00:01:01,280 Speaker 1: The Houston Texans are the four seed as the AFC 19 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:04,320 Speaker 1: South champions, they are most likely going to play the 20 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:09,160 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh Steelers. The Ravens as we said, if they beat 21 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:11,160 Speaker 1: the Browns or AFC Nord Champions. If they don't beat 22 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:13,480 Speaker 1: the Browns, the Ravens would need the Steelers to lose 23 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:16,400 Speaker 1: the Bengals and then they would still be the AFC 24 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:19,440 Speaker 1: North Champions. If the Ravens lose the Browns the Steelers 25 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:22,759 Speaker 1: beat the Bengals, the Ravens would then fall to the 26 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:26,399 Speaker 1: fourth seed, five seed I'm sorry, five seed, yes, five seed, 27 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:29,080 Speaker 1: and then have a road matchup in Houston to start 28 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:31,600 Speaker 1: the playoffs. So that's the picture as it stands right now. 29 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:33,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, if the Ravens are AFC North champons, are paying 30 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:35,960 Speaker 2: the Chargers or the Steelers, those three teams that the 31 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:37,480 Speaker 2: Ravens could play in the first time to the playoffs, 32 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:39,759 Speaker 2: it's the Chargers, are the Steelers here at MT BAK Stadium, 33 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:41,840 Speaker 2: or they could end up on the road facing the 34 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 2: Houston Texas And from a scheduling standpoint, we know now 35 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:46,760 Speaker 2: that the Ravens are going to be playing. 36 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:47,760 Speaker 3: They're the first game of the weekend. 37 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:50,520 Speaker 2: They're playing Saturday afternoon, four thirty pm here at M 38 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:52,920 Speaker 2: and T BAK Stadium against the Cleveland Browns. It's an 39 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:55,560 Speaker 2: AFC North weekend on Saturday, AFC North Saturday. 40 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 1: Yep, edif har. 41 00:01:56,680 --> 00:01:59,080 Speaker 2: Knocks it, Yeah, NFL went all in on the hard 42 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 2: knocks story here. So it's Ravens Browns four thirty in 43 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:06,720 Speaker 2: the afternoon Saturday. Then after that it's Steelers Bengals. Bengals 44 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:09,280 Speaker 2: still very much alive in the Wildcard race. 45 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 1: Very much might be an exaggeration, but they're alive. 46 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:14,840 Speaker 2: They are alive, and they need in order to stay alive, 47 00:02:14,919 --> 00:02:17,200 Speaker 2: they need to beat the Steelers on Saturday. 48 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 1: So they have a lot to play for. They need 49 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:20,880 Speaker 1: to beat the Steelers and then they would need the 50 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:24,880 Speaker 1: Dolphins to lose to the Jets possible. 51 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:26,519 Speaker 2: Well, then than the other piece that they need. The 52 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:28,040 Speaker 2: biggest piece of that they would need is they need the 53 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:28,600 Speaker 2: Broncos to. 54 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:29,919 Speaker 1: The Broncos exactly. 55 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:32,280 Speaker 2: So there's still a number of pieces that have to 56 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:34,840 Speaker 2: happen in order for them to end up making it. 57 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 2: But in terms of Saturday Night, they of course won't 58 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 2: know the results of those games exactly. Those those games 59 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:42,400 Speaker 2: are being played on Sunday, and so for the Bengals, 60 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 2: they need to play Saturday Night with a win and 61 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 2: get in mentality, even though you have to wait and 62 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:48,240 Speaker 2: see what ends up happening. 63 00:02:47,919 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 1: And obviously the Ravens they just want to take care 64 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:53,120 Speaker 1: of business and get it done. At four thirty. Beat 65 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 1: the Browns, your ASC Nord champs, so you get the hats, 66 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:57,639 Speaker 1: you get the T shirts in the locker room, it's 67 00:02:57,720 --> 00:02:59,840 Speaker 1: hats and T shirts game for them, and that's what 68 00:02:59,840 --> 00:03:03,320 Speaker 1: you want. But if they were to not beat the Browns, 69 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:05,640 Speaker 1: now all eyes go to that eight o'clock game with 70 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:07,799 Speaker 1: the Bengals having a lot to play for and all 71 00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:10,920 Speaker 1: Ravens fans turned into Bengals fans to beat the Steelers. 72 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's an interesting time of the year because you 73 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:15,520 Speaker 2: end up rooting for these teams, Ravens fans on Christmas Day, 74 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:17,360 Speaker 2: you're rooting for the Chiefs. You're like, wait, this is 75 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:19,400 Speaker 2: a weird feeling. It's strange. I'm not sure if I'm 76 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:21,280 Speaker 2: supposed to do this. And it would be the same 77 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 2: if the Ravens weren't to beat the Browns on Sunday 78 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:26,560 Speaker 2: or Saturday. But certainly the Ravens are big favorites in 79 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:28,959 Speaker 2: that game and they I think the Ravens are going 80 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:32,079 Speaker 2: into this with the mindset it's pretty simple, just winning 81 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:34,400 Speaker 2: when and you're the AFC North champs. You don't need 82 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:37,000 Speaker 2: to overthink it too much. Here you're playing a team 83 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 2: that beats you earlier in the season. So if you 84 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:42,240 Speaker 2: needed any reminder, then anything can happen in an NFL 85 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:44,680 Speaker 2: game day. Well, don't look too far, because the Browns 86 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 2: beat the Ravens earlier this season, So the Ravens are 87 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 2: certainly well aware of that, and this would be they 88 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:52,160 Speaker 2: would be back to back AFC North champs, and that 89 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 2: means something like that's significant. The Ravens talk at the 90 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:57,120 Speaker 2: beginning of each year that the first goal is to 91 00:03:57,120 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 2: win the division. That's first and foremost. You take care 92 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:01,520 Speaker 2: of business in vision. You win the division, you get 93 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:03,720 Speaker 2: a home playoff game. There's a lot that comes with 94 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:07,800 Speaker 2: winning that division. So it's significant, and the Ravens are 95 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:11,120 Speaker 2: are certainly motivated to get that done this weekend. 96 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:13,440 Speaker 1: Well, and plus, I think it's a momentum thing, right. 97 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 1: The Ravens have won three straight games, three games in 98 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:19,360 Speaker 1: eleven days, and they're on, they're hot, they're rolling, and 99 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:21,640 Speaker 1: you certainly don't want to disrupt that. Even though the 100 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:24,840 Speaker 1: Ravens are in the playoffs regardless, you certainly don't want 101 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:27,839 Speaker 1: to disrupt the momentum with taking a regular season finale 102 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:31,160 Speaker 1: loss to the Browns to a rival of yours who's 103 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:34,560 Speaker 1: struggling right now, that would not be a good That 104 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:37,279 Speaker 1: wouldn't be good vibes to go into the playoffs on that. Plus, 105 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:39,640 Speaker 1: then you're now playing on the road in the playoffs. Now, 106 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:43,839 Speaker 1: it's right most likely right now you have to you have. 107 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:47,279 Speaker 2: To like phrase everything like there's probably most things of 108 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:48,880 Speaker 2: how things are going to play out exactly. 109 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:54,160 Speaker 1: Yeah. Now the interesting debate is what's the best matchup 110 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:56,359 Speaker 1: for the Ravens in the first round of the playoffs. 111 00:04:56,360 --> 00:05:00,400 Speaker 1: As you said, their most likely opponent is the Chart. 112 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 1: They could also face the Steelers or the Texans. Of 113 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:09,240 Speaker 1: those three possibilities, who's the best matchup for the Ravens. 114 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:09,919 Speaker 3: I don't know. 115 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:11,720 Speaker 2: I think that you're you're playing tough teams in the 116 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:14,840 Speaker 2: playoffs no matter what. I don't know that there's obviously 117 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:16,240 Speaker 2: the Ravens just took care of business in a big 118 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 2: way against against the Texans. But but I'm not I'm 119 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:22,719 Speaker 2: not on the bandwagon of saying don't win the AFC 120 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:24,080 Speaker 2: North so that you can face the team that you 121 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:24,480 Speaker 2: just beat. 122 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:27,440 Speaker 3: Like I think when in the AFC North matters well man. 123 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:30,239 Speaker 1: The Ravens also beat the Chargers, and they just recently 124 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:30,920 Speaker 1: beating the Steelers. 125 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:32,840 Speaker 3: Steelers, right, so they've beaten all three of those teams 126 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:33,480 Speaker 3: this year. 127 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:35,839 Speaker 2: Now, of course they did lose to the Steelers at 128 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:40,719 Speaker 2: in Pittsburgh earlier this year, so I think that no matter, 129 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:42,800 Speaker 2: I don't know that there's one matchup that's like, this 130 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:44,400 Speaker 2: is the one that you want. I don't know that 131 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:47,080 Speaker 2: the Ravens are really thinking about it that way. I 132 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:50,400 Speaker 2: think an interesting question is more in the Steelers camp. 133 00:05:50,640 --> 00:05:52,760 Speaker 2: So let's just say the Ravens win on Saturday, they 134 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:55,960 Speaker 2: beat the Browns. The Steelers now have no shot to 135 00:05:56,000 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 2: win the AFC North. They are only playing for seeding 136 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 2: at that point, the five seed or the six seed 137 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:06,080 Speaker 2: for the Steelers. If they were to win, then they 138 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:07,719 Speaker 2: would get the five seed and then they're going on 139 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:11,640 Speaker 2: the road to Houston. They lose, then they're most likely 140 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:15,080 Speaker 2: coming here and unless the Chargers were to also lose 141 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:17,880 Speaker 2: on right, so they play the Raiders, and the Chargers 142 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:22,640 Speaker 2: play the Raiders. So the Steelers are basically then in 143 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:25,680 Speaker 2: a position where the AFC North. Again, this is if 144 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:27,520 Speaker 2: the Ravens take care of business at four point thirty 145 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:30,240 Speaker 2: on Saturday. The Steelers then are not playing for the division. 146 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:31,480 Speaker 2: They're only playing. 147 00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:35,120 Speaker 1: They're playing to face the Texans, who are lose on 148 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 1: a losing skid right now. Basically, they would I would 149 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:41,719 Speaker 1: bet in Pittsburgh they would probably rather play the Texans 150 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:43,080 Speaker 1: than the Ravens, right come here. 151 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 2: It's just an interesting from a I guess a psyche standpoint. 152 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:49,560 Speaker 2: If you if you find out right before you're about 153 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:52,400 Speaker 2: to take the field that division is gone, does that 154 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:54,839 Speaker 2: affect things at all? Is that tough, especially going up 155 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:57,360 Speaker 2: against the Bengals team that's fighting for their playoff lives. 156 00:06:57,680 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 3: I don't know. 157 00:06:58,360 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 2: I don't know how the Steelers are going to handle it, 158 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:01,760 Speaker 2: and the Ravens, to be honest, I don't think are 159 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:03,599 Speaker 2: particularly concerned with how the Steelers are going to handle 160 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:04,920 Speaker 2: things because they just want to take care of their 161 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 2: own business. But I think that's an interesting element of 162 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:11,920 Speaker 2: this AFC North extravaganza here on Saturday. 163 00:07:12,080 --> 00:07:15,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, right now, you look at the Chargers 164 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:17,720 Speaker 1: and they're a tough team. They're hot. I mean, they 165 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:21,960 Speaker 1: just hung forty points on New England. The Ravens obviously, 166 00:07:22,040 --> 00:07:23,560 Speaker 1: you know, beat him earlier this season, but that was 167 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:25,960 Speaker 1: a pretty tight game. That was a thirty twenty three game, 168 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:30,400 Speaker 1: and that the Ravens went forward on some forced out 169 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:32,440 Speaker 1: the fourth downs. They are very aggressive out in LA 170 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:35,800 Speaker 1: and it paid off. But the Chargers got on the 171 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 1: board first, marched right down the field. They had their 172 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:41,080 Speaker 1: run game going with JK. Dobbins. Now JK Dobbins is 173 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:43,400 Speaker 1: back after suffering a knee injury in that Ravens game 174 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:44,239 Speaker 1: where he left early. 175 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:46,720 Speaker 3: When he left earlier, that kind of changed their offense. 176 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 1: Certainly did, so he's back. Chargers, you know, beat the 177 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:52,840 Speaker 1: Broncos thirty four to twenty seven in a shootout. Now 178 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:54,960 Speaker 1: they just put up forty on the Patriots, so that 179 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:58,160 Speaker 1: offense is rolling a little bit. Not an easy matchup. 180 00:07:58,160 --> 00:08:02,480 Speaker 1: Plus we get Harball horrible four right, and everybody knows 181 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 1: how tough you know, Jim Harball is and his teams, 182 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:08,160 Speaker 1: and so that is is not an easy matchup for 183 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:11,280 Speaker 1: the Ravens in it by any stretch. But like you 184 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:14,360 Speaker 1: said earlier, I think it bears saying, hey, you gotta 185 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:16,400 Speaker 1: win tough games in the playoffs, like you just you 186 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:19,720 Speaker 1: don't get any cupcakes in the playoffs. And so if 187 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 1: if you can't beat the Chargers, at home in the 188 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:24,320 Speaker 1: wildcard round of the playoffs. Then you weren't a super 189 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 1: Bowl team. Then you just weren't, you know. And so 190 00:08:27,640 --> 00:08:31,160 Speaker 1: I don't think the Ravens like run scared by any means. 191 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:33,800 Speaker 1: And they're like, you know, we'd rather face the Texans, 192 00:08:33,800 --> 00:08:36,000 Speaker 1: who we just beat thirty one to two. You know, 193 00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:38,199 Speaker 1: like there's no part of that. It's win the North. 194 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:40,160 Speaker 1: You get who you get, and you go out and 195 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:41,000 Speaker 1: you try to beat them, right. 196 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:43,200 Speaker 2: And it's gonna be a good team, exact thing. It's like, 197 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 2: it's fun to talk about who would you rather face? 198 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:49,400 Speaker 2: And honestly, I can talk myself into really any of 199 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:50,719 Speaker 2: the matchups, right, like you. 200 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:52,800 Speaker 1: Can talk I think, whoever the Ravens play in the 201 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:54,600 Speaker 1: first round, I think they should beat them, Like I 202 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:56,520 Speaker 1: think I think the Ravens are that good. I think 203 00:08:57,160 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 1: they are super Bowl caliber team. 204 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:01,640 Speaker 2: Absolutely yeah, And I think that, like you just can 205 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 2: talk yourself into all these different matchups and this is 206 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:07,440 Speaker 2: a more favorable matchup and these different things. The Steelers, 207 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:10,280 Speaker 2: if you face them, that you're looking at a situation 208 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:13,720 Speaker 2: where they will have lost four straight games coming into 209 00:09:13,840 --> 00:09:16,400 Speaker 2: the playoffs. If the Ravens end up playing them in 210 00:09:16,440 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 2: the first round, which is not obviously where they want 211 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:20,679 Speaker 2: to be, but so. 212 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:21,600 Speaker 3: They will have backed in. 213 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:24,360 Speaker 2: But then there's the rivalry element, so you can be like, 214 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:25,599 Speaker 2: I don't know if I want another. 215 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:25,839 Speaker 3: Piece of that. 216 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:28,360 Speaker 2: So let's like you can talk yourself in or out 217 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:30,520 Speaker 2: of any of these matchups. And I think that the 218 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:32,400 Speaker 2: truth is it's going to be a tough game in 219 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:34,640 Speaker 2: that first round of the playoffs. That's what happens when 220 00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:36,800 Speaker 2: you get to the postseason. There's no cupcakes, there's no 221 00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:40,679 Speaker 2: homecoming games. It's all difficult opponents. And the Ravens are 222 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:43,360 Speaker 2: I think they're going to be whoever the Ravens face. 223 00:09:44,160 --> 00:09:47,400 Speaker 2: I don't think opposing fans and the opposing team are 224 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:48,959 Speaker 2: going to be saying, man, we're glad we have to 225 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:50,720 Speaker 2: go to Baltimore in the first round of the playoffs, 226 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:52,440 Speaker 2: Like that's not going to be the case. So when 227 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:55,920 Speaker 2: you think about it from the inverse' that's the mentality 228 00:09:55,960 --> 00:09:56,760 Speaker 2: that they're going to have too. 229 00:09:56,880 --> 00:09:59,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think a little bit of an interesting conversation 230 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 1: to have. All so is who do you want? Who 231 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:05,640 Speaker 1: do you want in that seventh seed spot in the AFC. 232 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:10,280 Speaker 1: I kind of wouldn't hate seeing the Bengals get in 233 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:12,240 Speaker 1: there instead of the Broncos. I mean, the Bengals are 234 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:15,280 Speaker 1: hot right now. They're on a winning streak. Their offense 235 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:18,320 Speaker 1: has been lights out. You know, Joe Burrow is playing 236 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:20,760 Speaker 1: at a very high level. Toe Higgins just scored three touchdowns. 237 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:25,040 Speaker 1: Like the I bet you in Buffalo, the Bills are 238 00:10:25,080 --> 00:10:27,040 Speaker 1: going to be the two seed. I bet you they 239 00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:29,600 Speaker 1: would not like to see the Bengals be their first 240 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:32,840 Speaker 1: round opponent because then if the Bengals are I think 241 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:35,959 Speaker 1: they could potentially beat the Bills if they took out 242 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:38,600 Speaker 1: the Bills. Now, the Ravens at the three seed, have 243 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:41,840 Speaker 1: a chance of hosting two playoff games, right so, like 244 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:46,599 Speaker 1: I think probably out of the Broncos, the Bengals, and 245 00:10:46,640 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 1: the Dolphins, who are the three teams still contending for 246 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:51,880 Speaker 1: that last playoff spot in the AFC, the Bengals are 247 00:10:51,880 --> 00:10:55,440 Speaker 1: probably the best team right now of those three. So 248 00:10:56,160 --> 00:10:58,480 Speaker 1: I don't hate that scenario because right now you look 249 00:10:58,640 --> 00:11:01,360 Speaker 1: you look ahead to the Visional playoffs for the Ravens, 250 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:04,880 Speaker 1: the most likely opponent would be if it's Chalk, Yeah, 251 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:07,160 Speaker 1: then the Ravens would be going to Buffalo. Yeah. I'd 252 00:11:07,280 --> 00:11:09,560 Speaker 1: rather the Ravens be hosting a second game. 253 00:11:09,840 --> 00:11:12,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, let's just put the cart full in front 254 00:11:12,520 --> 00:11:12,880 Speaker 2: of the horse. 255 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:14,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, and so let's go. 256 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:14,920 Speaker 3: Then you could go. 257 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:18,120 Speaker 2: You could be a situation where it's say it's the 258 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:20,800 Speaker 2: Begels beat they beat the Bills, then they go to 259 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:23,080 Speaker 2: Kansas City in the second round they beat the Chiefs. 260 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:26,440 Speaker 3: Yes, and we're hosting a home AFC champions let's go. 261 00:11:27,840 --> 00:11:32,880 Speaker 1: Yes, Yes, So there's that AGAINFC Crown runs through Baltimore. 262 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:34,000 Speaker 1: Maybe you heard it here first. 263 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:36,200 Speaker 2: So if you want to just completely put the cart 264 00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:38,280 Speaker 2: in front of the horse there. But we'll just going 265 00:11:38,360 --> 00:11:41,439 Speaker 2: back real quick to this weekend. It's interesting. If the 266 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:44,360 Speaker 2: Ravens take care of business and they win four thirty, 267 00:11:44,559 --> 00:11:48,120 Speaker 2: and then the Steelers win, then you're looking at Ravens 268 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:51,160 Speaker 2: Chargers in the first round of the playoffs here in Baltimore. 269 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:52,240 Speaker 3: And you'll know that Saturday night. 270 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:54,280 Speaker 2: I mean, these coaches will probably be heading back right 271 00:11:54,320 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 2: up to the facility right after that game to begin 272 00:11:56,240 --> 00:11:59,360 Speaker 2: preparing for whoever it is they may know that Saturday 273 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:00,160 Speaker 2: night up. 274 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:03,520 Speaker 1: And just a quick look at the Browns. The Browns 275 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:07,520 Speaker 1: have the past three games, you know, they've scored let's see, 276 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:11,400 Speaker 1: nine sixteen points. The last three games. Dorian Thompson Robinson 277 00:12:11,480 --> 00:12:15,480 Speaker 1: has been the starting quarterback the past two weeks, but 278 00:12:15,640 --> 00:12:19,080 Speaker 1: now they're not committing to him being the starting quarterback 279 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:22,040 Speaker 1: against the Ravens, So we'll see. Jamis Winston's dealing with 280 00:12:22,520 --> 00:12:26,760 Speaker 1: shoulder injury, so it's Bailey Zappy might be the quarterback. 281 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:28,760 Speaker 3: Or Jamis Winston if he's healthy enough. 282 00:12:28,760 --> 00:12:31,439 Speaker 1: If he's healthy enough, or dtr he could start again. 283 00:12:31,520 --> 00:12:34,200 Speaker 2: So and of course Ravens saw Jamis Winston earlier this 284 00:12:34,280 --> 00:12:36,080 Speaker 2: year and he lit. 285 00:12:36,080 --> 00:12:38,360 Speaker 1: Up, had a very good get. The Ravens dropped multiple 286 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:40,640 Speaker 1: interceptions and should have won that game. But but yeah, 287 00:12:40,679 --> 00:12:44,359 Speaker 1: he played pretty darn well outside of the inter possible interceptions. 288 00:12:45,160 --> 00:12:49,400 Speaker 1: But it'll be a fun game, hopefully ending with caps 289 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:52,160 Speaker 1: on our heads. Yes, at the end of Saturday night, 290 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:53,959 Speaker 1: let's take a quick break and then we'll come back 291 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:56,840 Speaker 1: and talk about some other news from this past weekend. 292 00:12:57,320 --> 00:12:59,120 Speaker 2: You're listening to the Lounge podcast. We are coming to 293 00:12:59,160 --> 00:13:00,880 Speaker 2: you from the Sea Geeks. We also want to mention 294 00:13:00,880 --> 00:13:03,160 Speaker 2: our partners a Draft Kings sportsbook. They are an official 295 00:13:03,160 --> 00:13:06,439 Speaker 2: sports betting partner of the Baltimore Ravens Draft King sportsbook. 296 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:10,559 Speaker 2: The Crown is Yours Also, Tito's Handmade Vodka is America's 297 00:13:10,640 --> 00:13:13,720 Speaker 2: original craft vodka, distilled on the same land where it 298 00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:17,000 Speaker 2: all started in Austin, Texas. Tito's is made from corn 299 00:13:17,040 --> 00:13:21,320 Speaker 2: and naturally gluten free. Visit us at Titosvodka dot com. 300 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 2: So another news of the weekend, the Pro Football Hall 301 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:28,720 Speaker 2: of Fame announced the fifteen finalists for the twenty twenty 302 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:31,680 Speaker 2: five class of enshrinement and the Ravens have two homegrown 303 00:13:32,160 --> 00:13:35,079 Speaker 2: Ravens in the mix. It's Marshall Yonda and Terrell Suggs. 304 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:38,920 Speaker 2: For both those guys, it's their first year of eligibility 305 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:42,480 Speaker 2: and they have the chance now to be first ballot 306 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:45,120 Speaker 2: Hall of Famers. I think both of them are certainly deserving. 307 00:13:45,160 --> 00:13:47,080 Speaker 2: Let me just run through the class year of the 308 00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:52,000 Speaker 2: fifteen finalists, It's cornerback Eric Allen, defensive ed Jared Allen, 309 00:13:52,400 --> 00:13:55,720 Speaker 2: offensive tackle Willie Anderson also played one year here in Baltimore. 310 00:13:56,559 --> 00:14:01,320 Speaker 2: Guard jarr Evans, tight end Antonio Gates, wide receiver Tory Holt, 311 00:14:01,480 --> 00:14:05,680 Speaker 2: linebacker Luke Keithley, quarterback Eli Manning. Wide receiver Steve Smith, 312 00:14:05,720 --> 00:14:07,839 Speaker 2: of course, played at the end of his career here 313 00:14:07,840 --> 00:14:12,079 Speaker 2: in Baltimore. It's Trell Suggs, running back, Fred Taylor, kicker, 314 00:14:12,360 --> 00:14:16,240 Speaker 2: Adam Vitte, Terry wide receiver, Reggie Wayne, safety Darren Woodson, 315 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:20,160 Speaker 2: and then Yanda is a fifteenth. So that's the list 316 00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:23,640 Speaker 2: right there. I think that Look, when you're talking about 317 00:14:23,680 --> 00:14:26,080 Speaker 2: the Hall of Fame, it's it's not easy, but I 318 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:29,160 Speaker 2: think that both those guys have a realistic shot to 319 00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:32,400 Speaker 2: be first ballot Hall of Famers. I think that Suggs 320 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:37,520 Speaker 2: probably has the slight edge in terms of definitely being 321 00:14:37,560 --> 00:14:39,200 Speaker 2: a first ballot Hall of Fame. I don't think it's 322 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:41,640 Speaker 2: as I don't think it's clearcut, but I think that 323 00:14:41,800 --> 00:14:45,680 Speaker 2: Suggs as a top ten SAT guy, two times Superowl winner, 324 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:48,680 Speaker 2: eighth all time and sacks eighth all time in sacks, 325 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:51,040 Speaker 2: he was Defensive Player of the Year, he has the numbers. 326 00:14:51,040 --> 00:14:52,640 Speaker 1: It's a little bit easier rookie. 327 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:57,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's numbers associated with him from a sax standpoint, 328 00:14:57,560 --> 00:14:58,360 Speaker 2: and then the honors. 329 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:01,840 Speaker 3: Yanda has the honors and the t and but it's just. 330 00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:04,560 Speaker 2: A little tougher as an offensive guard to stand out 331 00:15:04,560 --> 00:15:07,400 Speaker 2: in the same way I think as a star defensive 332 00:15:07,400 --> 00:15:09,440 Speaker 2: player like Terrell Suggs. I think both of them have 333 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:11,840 Speaker 2: a deserving case I just think the Suggs may have 334 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:13,440 Speaker 2: a little bit more of an edge to be the 335 00:15:13,480 --> 00:15:17,000 Speaker 2: first ballot guy, and I think he I think Suggs 336 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:17,320 Speaker 2: should be. 337 00:15:17,400 --> 00:15:18,560 Speaker 3: I really do. I think sug should be a. 338 00:15:18,520 --> 00:15:21,840 Speaker 1: First just talking about like win, I think both guys 339 00:15:21,880 --> 00:15:23,920 Speaker 1: will be Hall of Famers. I think it's more a 340 00:15:23,960 --> 00:15:27,320 Speaker 1: question of when. And I think for Terrell Suggs, you 341 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:31,120 Speaker 1: look at okay, Miami Dolphins defensive end Jason Taylor, first 342 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:33,480 Speaker 1: ballot Hall of Famer. He finished with a half sack 343 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:36,600 Speaker 1: more Thanterrell Suggs did. He did not win a Super Bowl. 344 00:15:36,680 --> 00:15:40,080 Speaker 1: He went to one fewer Pro Bowl Right, So okay, 345 00:15:40,680 --> 00:15:42,640 Speaker 1: like Tellrell. 346 00:15:42,360 --> 00:15:44,960 Speaker 3: You ever defensive? Was he ever the AP Defensive Player 347 00:15:44,960 --> 00:15:45,240 Speaker 3: of the Year. 348 00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:50,200 Speaker 1: No, So Dwight Freeney, though, had to wait. Jared Allen 349 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:50,800 Speaker 1: had to wait. 350 00:15:51,240 --> 00:15:53,720 Speaker 3: Now, Jared Allen isn't even in yet, so. 351 00:15:54,080 --> 00:15:55,920 Speaker 1: Right, yeah, he's been. He's been a Hall of Fame 352 00:15:55,960 --> 00:15:59,840 Speaker 1: finalist four years straight. Right, so he's not even still in. Uh, 353 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:02,640 Speaker 1: you have other guys that are kind of similar numbers. Now, 354 00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:06,080 Speaker 1: charl Suggs has more sex than Dwight Freeney, right, so 355 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:10,480 Speaker 1: better numbers than Jared Allen. So I think that he 356 00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:13,760 Speaker 1: has a pretty decent chance of making it in. 357 00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:16,160 Speaker 3: Hey, you also add in the fact of I. 358 00:16:16,160 --> 00:16:19,000 Speaker 1: Mean, who else from that class is going in? Look 359 00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:22,000 Speaker 1: you look at the name of the guys who are finalists. 360 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:25,040 Speaker 1: Who do you who do you circle on here? That's like, 361 00:16:25,400 --> 00:16:28,240 Speaker 1: absolutely they're getting in this year, right. 362 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:31,160 Speaker 2: It's really hard, And I think the Hall of Fame 363 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:36,160 Speaker 2: voters have, of course disappreciation and understanding of history and 364 00:16:36,160 --> 00:16:37,920 Speaker 2: and rankings there. I think that I'm looking at I 365 00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:39,480 Speaker 2: think Eli Manning is going to go in as a 366 00:16:39,480 --> 00:16:41,040 Speaker 2: two time Super Bowl winner quarterback. 367 00:16:41,320 --> 00:16:42,120 Speaker 3: But I think I. 368 00:16:42,040 --> 00:16:44,040 Speaker 1: Think that one's been debated for a long It has. 369 00:16:44,040 --> 00:16:45,720 Speaker 2: Been debated for a very long time. I think that 370 00:16:45,760 --> 00:16:47,800 Speaker 2: he's going in though. That's that's my guess. 371 00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:51,560 Speaker 1: Okay, Vinitaria would be an interesting. 372 00:16:51,400 --> 00:16:55,120 Speaker 2: Minitary is an interesting one. Antonio Gates he's another interesting 373 00:16:55,120 --> 00:16:55,560 Speaker 2: one to me. 374 00:16:57,120 --> 00:16:58,200 Speaker 1: Certainly has the numbers. 375 00:16:58,720 --> 00:17:01,720 Speaker 2: Like the other thing is a wide receiver. There's been 376 00:17:01,800 --> 00:17:03,600 Speaker 2: kind of a log jam there. And you look at 377 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:07,760 Speaker 2: Tory Halt, Steve Smith, and Reggie Wayne, all three very 378 00:17:07,800 --> 00:17:11,880 Speaker 2: deserving candidates there. They all have some monster numbers, they've 379 00:17:11,880 --> 00:17:14,040 Speaker 2: all been they were all great players. I don't think 380 00:17:14,040 --> 00:17:16,640 Speaker 2: all three are getting in. I think one of them 381 00:17:17,080 --> 00:17:18,199 Speaker 2: is getting in a. 382 00:17:18,520 --> 00:17:22,080 Speaker 1: Time seeing Luke Keikley going in considering just his career 383 00:17:22,760 --> 00:17:25,080 Speaker 1: was cut short. I mean, dominant player when he was there, 384 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:28,720 Speaker 1: but first ballot, I don't know. He was a great player. 385 00:17:28,760 --> 00:17:29,840 Speaker 1: He was a very good player. 386 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:33,560 Speaker 2: That's the thing that you you start parsing through it 387 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:36,840 Speaker 2: in the debate of who should get in who shouldn't. 388 00:17:38,040 --> 00:17:40,960 Speaker 2: Luke Keithley was an awesome linebacker for throughout his career. 389 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:43,240 Speaker 2: I think he's a I think he's probably going to 390 00:17:43,280 --> 00:17:45,119 Speaker 2: get in. That's my guest as a first ballot Hall 391 00:17:45,119 --> 00:17:47,280 Speaker 2: of Famer. I know he doesn't have a longevity as 392 00:17:47,280 --> 00:17:49,040 Speaker 2: some of the other players. That's the thing with sucks 393 00:17:49,040 --> 00:17:51,760 Speaker 2: to me. He has the stats, and he has longevity, 394 00:17:51,800 --> 00:17:54,000 Speaker 2: and he has the rings, and he has he played 395 00:17:54,080 --> 00:17:55,000 Speaker 2: on great defenses. 396 00:17:55,040 --> 00:17:58,800 Speaker 1: Like these guys get scores basically they they combine all 397 00:17:58,840 --> 00:18:01,280 Speaker 1: these like there is an number that's associated to these 398 00:18:01,320 --> 00:18:03,199 Speaker 1: guys when you're looking at their case. We don't have 399 00:18:03,240 --> 00:18:06,200 Speaker 1: that number, but there is a number that's associated for voters. 400 00:18:06,560 --> 00:18:08,840 Speaker 1: And he I would venture to guess that he has 401 00:18:08,880 --> 00:18:11,440 Speaker 1: a very high score. Yeah, a lot, got a lot 402 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:15,440 Speaker 1: on his resumes. Yeah, And I think that Marshallana has 403 00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:19,160 Speaker 1: a high score too. And you know, although I think 404 00:18:19,200 --> 00:18:21,840 Speaker 1: that he will probably have to wait. And I talked 405 00:18:21,880 --> 00:18:24,480 Speaker 1: to Marshall about this, and you know, he's like, hey, man, 406 00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:28,080 Speaker 1: I am so honored, and like he's like, however, far 407 00:18:28,119 --> 00:18:31,679 Speaker 1: I get. That's awesome And and even just making it 408 00:18:31,720 --> 00:18:35,160 Speaker 1: to the finalist round is a good indicator that, yes, 409 00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:37,359 Speaker 1: at some point Yan's going to be in, even if 410 00:18:37,359 --> 00:18:40,800 Speaker 1: he's not a first ballot Hall of Famer, right, and hey, 411 00:18:40,920 --> 00:18:43,560 Speaker 1: I'm saying he's put him in the first ballot. But 412 00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:47,040 Speaker 1: typically guards have had to wait. You know, There's Hutchinson 413 00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:50,080 Speaker 1: had to wait, Mike Munchak had to wait. Will she 414 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:53,199 Speaker 1: Shields went to twelve Pro Bowls, went in on his 415 00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:58,000 Speaker 1: fourth try, right, And so Jarry Evans is another guard 416 00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:01,199 Speaker 1: who's a finalist. He might be the next guy to 417 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:04,680 Speaker 1: get in. You know, he's kind of waited his turn. 418 00:19:04,760 --> 00:19:07,840 Speaker 1: I would imagine that he would probably you know, he 419 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:10,720 Speaker 1: has a similar resume inanda one Super Bowl win for 420 00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:13,320 Speaker 1: first team All Pro, six per Bowls, he was on 421 00:19:13,359 --> 00:19:17,280 Speaker 1: the twenty tens All Decade Team, like similar resume, and 422 00:19:17,359 --> 00:19:20,240 Speaker 1: he's been waiting. I would imagine that he probably is 423 00:19:20,280 --> 00:19:24,160 Speaker 1: the next one before Yanda. Yeah, And when I spoke 424 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:27,920 Speaker 1: to Marshall, he was just like, look, you look back 425 00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:31,919 Speaker 1: at my story and it's you know, it's incredible. Not 426 00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:34,480 Speaker 1: batting himself on the back, but it is like he's 427 00:19:34,520 --> 00:19:36,480 Speaker 1: like thankful to be like where he is. I mean, 428 00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:39,280 Speaker 1: this guy who was a walk on at Iowa, was 429 00:19:39,320 --> 00:19:42,040 Speaker 1: not like a starter there immediately, was not a dominant 430 00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:47,160 Speaker 1: third round pick right like, was not the guy and 431 00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:51,560 Speaker 1: really worked his way up to become a dominant player 432 00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:55,240 Speaker 1: in this league and now will someday I think be 433 00:19:55,320 --> 00:19:56,879 Speaker 1: wearing a gold jacket. 434 00:19:56,720 --> 00:19:59,040 Speaker 2: Just to run through the process and how it works. 435 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:01,960 Speaker 2: Up to five players. It's not a guarantee that it's five, 436 00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:06,240 Speaker 2: but it's generally speaking been five players get in from 437 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:09,040 Speaker 2: modern era of votes. So there's five players that you 438 00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:12,480 Speaker 2: expect to get in from that class of fifteen, and 439 00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:15,120 Speaker 2: there's five players who are on their first ballot. Those 440 00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:17,760 Speaker 2: five first ballot players are Luke Kei, Clee Eli Manning, 441 00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:21,840 Speaker 2: Steve Smith, Suggs, Minitarian YadA. Sorry, there's six. There's six 442 00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:26,240 Speaker 2: players who are on their first time of eligibility. Then 443 00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:30,440 Speaker 2: I mentioned the wide receiver logjam, and you've seen players 444 00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:34,320 Speaker 2: wait at that spot, there's these three receivers again, Tory Halt, 445 00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:38,280 Speaker 2: Steve Smith, Reggie Wayne. Tory Halt and Reggie Wayne are 446 00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:42,440 Speaker 2: both in their sixth year of eligibility. They've been finalists 447 00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:48,440 Speaker 2: now six times, and so their clock is ticketing there 448 00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:51,600 Speaker 2: for both those guys to get in, which Steve Smith 449 00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:53,359 Speaker 2: has a really strong case, and I think Steve is 450 00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:56,399 Speaker 2: also going to be there. But when you have Tory 451 00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:59,360 Speaker 2: Halt and Reggie Wayne sitting there in their sixth year 452 00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:01,840 Speaker 2: as a final it would be a little bit surprising 453 00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:04,120 Speaker 2: if the if Steve came in in his first year 454 00:21:04,119 --> 00:21:04,960 Speaker 2: and made it over them. 455 00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:07,560 Speaker 1: Right now, Reggie Wayne tenth all time in receiving yards, 456 00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:10,800 Speaker 1: Te Smith eighth, but that's not a huge margin there. 457 00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:13,680 Speaker 1: REGGI Wayne obviously with the you know Super Bowl win 458 00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:18,879 Speaker 1: and all that stuff. That's that is a very interesting 459 00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:20,680 Speaker 1: I think Tory Holts a little further down the list 460 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:25,199 Speaker 1: seventeenth all time in receiving yards. Again, you know, he 461 00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:30,280 Speaker 1: has the postseason accletes. So I would venture to guess 462 00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:32,159 Speaker 1: that Reggie Wayne will be the next wide receiver in. 463 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:33,920 Speaker 2: And it's also tough when you look at it and 464 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:38,000 Speaker 2: you have players who are in there later like the 465 00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:43,080 Speaker 2: players like who are in their fifteen, sixteen, seventeenth year 466 00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:46,200 Speaker 2: of eligibility. Eric Eric Allen is in his nineteenth years 467 00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:49,160 Speaker 2: of eligibility, Darren Woolson is in his seventeenth year, Willy 468 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:52,040 Speaker 2: Anderson is in his twelfth. That's where it gets really 469 00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:56,280 Speaker 2: difficult to compare an offensive tackle like Willy Anderson in 470 00:21:56,359 --> 00:21:59,879 Speaker 2: his in his twelfth year of eligibility versus Yanna and 471 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:03,919 Speaker 2: first and I don't know, you kind of hope you 472 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:07,040 Speaker 2: kind of hope that it's a player's just taken base 473 00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:09,520 Speaker 2: on the merit of their performance over the course of 474 00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:12,280 Speaker 2: their career, not necessarily how long they had to wait 475 00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:14,280 Speaker 2: and what year of eligibility they're in. But I think 476 00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:17,480 Speaker 2: that that probably is an element that seeps into the 477 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:18,439 Speaker 2: conversation probably. 478 00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:21,560 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know, I don't know this for 479 00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:23,960 Speaker 1: I mean, I would imagine that not everybody that is 480 00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:26,080 Speaker 1: a finalist ever always gets in. 481 00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:29,040 Speaker 3: Oh no, yeah, sometimes you just don't get in right exactly. 482 00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:31,520 Speaker 1: So like Yanna could certainly get in front of those 483 00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:33,159 Speaker 1: guys because those guys just aren't going to get in. 484 00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:35,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's gonna be the case too. 485 00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:37,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it would be all I mean, look, 486 00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:39,520 Speaker 2: it'd be awesome if both those guys made it in 487 00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:39,959 Speaker 2: their first year. 488 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:44,399 Speaker 3: The posibility plus the Ravens in New Orleans, let's go. 489 00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:45,720 Speaker 3: How about that? 490 00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:48,480 Speaker 2: It gets it gets announced at NFL Honors, which is 491 00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:50,320 Speaker 2: the Thursday going into the Super Bowl of course, Super 492 00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:51,040 Speaker 2: Bowls and New Orleans. 493 00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:53,640 Speaker 1: Jonathan Ogden went into the Hall of Fame same year 494 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:56,720 Speaker 1: as announced when the Ravens won the last Super Bowl 495 00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:59,480 Speaker 1: in New Orleans. Where was that? Yeah, so, oh my god, 496 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:01,120 Speaker 1: all lining off. 497 00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:05,800 Speaker 2: Yeah it is, So that's we'll see where that stands 498 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:08,000 Speaker 2: or see how that plays out. And again, I think 499 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:11,040 Speaker 2: both those guys, like Yonda, he was a great player 500 00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:15,800 Speaker 2: here was the leader of that historic offensive line in 501 00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:16,960 Speaker 2: twenty nineteen. 502 00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:19,920 Speaker 1: Which I think they the historic running game, the. 503 00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:23,480 Speaker 2: Best running game in NFL history, And I think that 504 00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:25,800 Speaker 2: that obviously accounts for something. And he was a clear 505 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:29,240 Speaker 2: catalyst of that offensive line. So I think that he's 506 00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:31,719 Speaker 2: got a strong case and figure scross for both those 507 00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:32,680 Speaker 2: players for sure. 508 00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:34,960 Speaker 1: Well, thank you for listening. As always, you can reach 509 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:38,200 Speaker 1: us at the lounge at Ravens dot NFL dot net. 510 00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:40,159 Speaker 1: We're going to get a player guest this week as 511 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:41,879 Speaker 1: the Ravens prepared to take on the Browns and then 512 00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:44,880 Speaker 1: break down that game for you, so we will talk 513 00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:46,240 Speaker 1: to you later this week.