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Speaker 1: think for the majority of players and the majority of situations,

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Speaker 1: thrown in the fire. Clearly, it just has it gone

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Speaker 1: well and we'll find out, I would imagine over the

429
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Speaker 1: next couple of days if he's the starter with the

430
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Speaker 1: Colts and can resurrect his career, and he might have

431
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Speaker 1: to do that, right, But Jackson Dart was in that

432
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Speaker 1: spot like did they overdraft him? Did they get him?

433
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Speaker 1: Like did they get a steal here? No one really knows,

434
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Speaker 1: and I'm basing like I'm not breaking down on miss film.

435
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Speaker 1: My I would say exposure to him at the highest

436
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Speaker 1: level was that Florida game, which is hard for me

437
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Speaker 1: to ever forget. And then you turn on these last

438
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Speaker 1: couple of weeks. He's twenty six to thirty five, He's

439
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Speaker 1: thrown a couple of touchdowns, he's run for a touchdown.

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Speaker 1: But listen, it's not about the stats. To me, It's

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Speaker 1: always about the e I'll never forget watching Mitch Trubisky

442
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Speaker 1: early in his career. So he's got no touch And

443
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Speaker 1: if you have no touch in the NFL, you have

444
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Speaker 1: no fucking chance excuse my language, little kids, none. If

445
00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:15,520
Speaker 1: you can't layer the ball over a linebacker under a safety,

446
00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:18,480
Speaker 1: you cannot function as a quarterback in the NFL. And

447
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Speaker 1: you know me, I have a soft spot for the

448
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Speaker 1: physical traits. I do think that matters over the course

449
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Speaker 1: of time. Right, Tom Brady had a big time army.

450
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Speaker 1: Why does that matter because he could handle cold weather

451
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Speaker 1: and we see some guys with weaker arms struggling cold

452
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Speaker 1: weather a little bit. I think that's a big line

453
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Speaker 1: of delineation for Mahomes, who obviously is a better player

454
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Speaker 1: than Alex Smith, but like his arm strength is so

455
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Speaker 1: much more superior. They immediately had success in the playoffs

456
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Speaker 1: where they couldn't with Alex. It has limitations and people

457
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Speaker 1: are like, how good is Jackson Dart's physical traits? We

458
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Speaker 1: heard the same thing last year with Bo Nicks. Why

459
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Speaker 1: I'm watching Sean Payton talk right now, He's like, his

460
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Speaker 1: physical traits are awesome. He has a plus arm, he

461
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Speaker 1: moves well. And I think people crush you sometimes in

462
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Speaker 1: your college offense because they're like, we're just throwing bubble screens.

463
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Speaker 1: We yeah, I mean that's kind of what a lot

464
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Speaker 1: of these colleges call.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 1: I think it was easier to judge that twenty years ago,

467
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Speaker 1: kind of the rinky dink. I mean, that's what it

468
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Speaker 1: was considered by NFL people, you know, spread offenses, you know,

469
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Speaker 1: definitely Mike Leech. But what it's really become, well now,

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Speaker 1: a lot of NFL teams, you know, run, I would

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Speaker 1: say iterations of those plays. I'm watching Jackson Dart and

472
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Speaker 1: I go listen. I don't think he has Josh Allen's arm,

473
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Speaker 1: but he does definitely has a strong arm. But watching

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Speaker 1: him layer throws right cam Ward, same thing that ability, like,

475
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Speaker 1: that's going to translate obviously. Then the intangibles, your work ethic.

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Speaker 1: We saw cam Ward a couple weeks ago talk about

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Speaker 1: why he shows up so early. He's like, my dad

478
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Speaker 1: had a job he hated, and he showed up early.

479
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Speaker 1: So if I have a job I like which also

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Speaker 1: pays a premium, and I can't show up early, I

481
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Speaker 1: might as well just quit down. He's right, you know,

482
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Speaker 1: and so to me, if you get the work ethic,

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Speaker 1: you've get the intangibles. They have the physical traits to translate.

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Speaker 1: And the thing you never ever really know at the

485
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Speaker 1: highest level until you start playing, as the toughness element

486
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Speaker 1: when you start getting hit, like, how do you react

487
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Speaker 1: cause you're gonna get hit. I saw this Abdual Carter

488
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Speaker 1: clip that went viral of him getting absolutely leveled on

489
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Speaker 1: a chip block by a tight end and then I

490
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Speaker 1: think the offensive tackle took him out. It's like everyone's

491
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Speaker 1: making fun of him. It's like, guys, this is the NFL. Like,

492
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Speaker 1: unless you are like Trent Williams. I mean, I bet

493
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Speaker 1: Aaron Donald's got blocked and thrown to the ground at

494
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Speaker 1: points and times like on a given snap it happened

495
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Speaker 1: to probably JJ Watt or Lane Johnson, Like you know,

496
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Speaker 1: Trent's probably got smoked his foot. Is the highest level,

497
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Speaker 1: the highest level of competition of the best athletes, especially

498
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Speaker 1: for a young guy, if they don't every once in

499
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Speaker 1: a while get absolutely worked. And if you are a

500
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Speaker 1: defensive or offensive lineman, it's gonna be physical. Like welcome

501
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Speaker 1: to football, Welcome to the National Football League. But if

502
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Speaker 1: I'm a Giants fan, I don't just have hope right now,

503
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Speaker 1: Like I'm pretty fired up. I'm pretty excited for what

504
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Speaker 1: I've seen of the young quarterback. And here's the problem.

505
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Speaker 1: We saw it last year with Russell Wilson. Now it

506
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Speaker 1: was different because Russell was banged up and they went

507
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Speaker 1: with fields and then they transitioned clearly, Brian Dables like,

508
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Speaker 1: we're going with Russell to start. Now their schedule is

509
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Speaker 1: really really difficult. But this is this thing with Flacco,

510
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Speaker 1: this is you know, cam Ward's starting right off the bat,

511
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Speaker 1: but whenever you have a highly publicized young quarterback, whether

512
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Speaker 1: it's a first round pick or a third or like shit,

513
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Speaker 1: or a fifth round pick, no one wants to watch

514
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Speaker 1: the old veteran guy you know you have, like Russell

515
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Speaker 1: Wilson has no equity with the fans. Honestly, I would

516
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Speaker 1: imagine most fans view Russell Wilson like a washed up

517
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Speaker 1: has been and they're not totally wrong. I mean, he's

518
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Speaker 1: getting passed around.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 1: He's a eight to ten million dollar bridge quarterback, and

521
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Speaker 1: we draft this guy really high. And if you're Brian

522
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Speaker 1: day Ball, it's like, well, you look at the schedule.

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Speaker 1: I think everyone is somewhat realistic, probably not winning ten games.

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Speaker 1: Like best case scenario, if we had a great season,

525
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Speaker 1: we won eight or nine, I should be in the

526
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Speaker 1: mix for Coach of the Year again, But how do

527
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Speaker 1: I say, my job and what do I do? Because

528
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Speaker 1: part of saving your job if you're not gonna make

529
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Speaker 1: the playoffs is that hope thing has to like, oh,

530
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Speaker 1: this guy is connected to the quarterback, the quarterback loves him,

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Speaker 1: and he's got to show promise. So when you look

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Speaker 1: at the schedule, it's clear he's not gonna start right away.

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Speaker 1: I mean, the beginning of their schedule is brutal, but

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Speaker 1: I would say by mid to late October, if they're

535
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Speaker 1: not winning many games. By Russell Wilson, no one's gonna

536
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Speaker 1: want to hear he's not quite ready yet because coaches

537
00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:28,119
Speaker 1: love saying that. The coaches loves you don't see what

538
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Speaker 1: we see in practice. I got news for you, guys.

539
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Speaker 1: No one gives a fuck. The owner doesn't really care,

540
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Speaker 1: and the fans definitely don't care, and a lot of

541
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Speaker 1: times the front office doesn't care. It's like, we get it.

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Speaker 1: You know, all these plays on a whiteboard in your

543
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Speaker 1: quarterback only knows eighty percent of them. Now if they

544
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Speaker 1: clearly don't know what they're doing, a lot like Anthony

545
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Speaker 1: Richardson in that first preseason game doesn't even know, you know,

546
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Speaker 1: the protections relative to the pressures. It just gets himself cold. Clock.

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Speaker 1: I totally get it. But like I think people can

548
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Speaker 1: live with that as a rookie. They can't live with

549
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Speaker 1: that as a third year guy. But like Jackson Dart,

550
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Speaker 1: there's gonna be a learning process. Cool with it, but

551
00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:05,920
Speaker 1: like that physical talent, that ability, that's why once upon

552
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Speaker 1: a time Russell started. Remember it's like well he's not

553
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Speaker 1: quite ready. It's like no one cares. And I'll give

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Speaker 1: Pete credit. And this is why Pete like obviously what

555
00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:16,720
Speaker 1: he did at USC made him a Hall of Famer

556
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Speaker 1: at the college level, but then him choosing Russell Wilson,

557
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Speaker 1: you know, as a rookie, like changed the course of

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Speaker 1: his career, made him a first ballot Football Hall of

559
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Speaker 1: Famer college and pro. Right, and sometimes you gotta have balls.

560
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Speaker 1: And that's the thing with Brian Dable. You know, this guy,

561
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Speaker 1: this kind of like BELICHICKI in work for Sabin, kind

562
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Speaker 1: of tough guy. Really became a star with Josh Allen,

563
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Speaker 1: Like sometimes he's got to put your nuts on the table.

564
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Speaker 1: So we'll see how long he's willing to just write

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Speaker 1: it out with Russell Wilson, because I just know football

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Speaker 1: fans and I've lived in the Northeast. I was part

567
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Speaker 1: of that division that they are not going to have

568
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Speaker 1: a long you know, a lot of patience when it

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Speaker 1: comes to Russell Wilson. I watched a lot of NFC

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Speaker 1: West football, the Niners, the Rams, the Erdinals, they're all

571
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Speaker 1: in really Seattle. Four things stand out to me about

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Speaker 1: all four teams. One, the forty nine ers. I don't

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Speaker 1: know how this is possible. They yesterday when they were

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Speaker 1: playing the Raiders, it felt like every other snap they

575
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Speaker 1: lost a player they've already lost. I mean, it felt

576
00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:20,919
Speaker 1: like forty guys in practice. This happened to them early

577
00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:23,240
Speaker 1: on in the Kyle Shanahan tenure. A couple of years ago.

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Speaker 1: They did not have this happen, and they made the

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl. Last year they were near the top with injuries,

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00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:31,760
Speaker 1: and right now it's not quite quantified because the rosters

581
00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:34,359
Speaker 1: are so fluid with ninety guys, but they got to

582
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Speaker 1: be near the top, if not leading the league in injuries.

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Speaker 1: I don't know how this happens. They got Stanford Medical

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00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:43,280
Speaker 1: right down the street. They're just losing player after player

585
00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:46,360
Speaker 1: after player. They're starting guard who's actually a really good player.

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Speaker 1: They drafted last year in the third round. Got hurt

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Speaker 1: on a fucking field goal. So I don't know what's

588
00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:54,520
Speaker 1: in the water right now in Santa Clara, what's happening

589
00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:57,240
Speaker 1: in the training room. But guys are dropping like flies.

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Speaker 1: But that was not their biggest issue. The reality is

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Speaker 1: most NFL teams are going to play in a ton

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Speaker 1: of games or a ton of close games, right Chancy Chiefs,

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Speaker 1: who are in the middle of a dynasty, played in

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Speaker 1: like fourteen close games and they just happen to win

595
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Speaker 1: them all. Playing in close games is part of the NFL,

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Speaker 1: good or bad. The majority. I think it's like well

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Speaker 1: over eighty percent of games this is not college football,

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00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:22,040
Speaker 1: are one score games in the fourth quarter. Right, as

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00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:23,800
Speaker 1: a wise man once told me when I worked in

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Speaker 1: the NFL, that team could be winless. They got a

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Speaker 1: lot of guys that live in big ass homes that

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Speaker 1: drive nice ass cars, so it's like they pay a

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Speaker 1: lot of money for their team as well. And the

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Speaker 1: forty nine ers field goal situation or kicking situation when

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00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:42,000
Speaker 1: it came to field goals was an abomination. And they

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Speaker 1: use a third round pick on Jake Moody, who Jim Harbaugh,

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Speaker 1: who I just saw get a ten year show. Cause, like,

608
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Speaker 1: how's the NCAA still operating? Like who's listening to them?

609
00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:54,360
Speaker 1: How do they still exist? I don't and I'm not

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00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:57,560
Speaker 1: trying to act like Jim and Connor Stallions are innocent

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Speaker 1: on this one. I don't know, honestly, don't really care,

612
00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:03,840
Speaker 1: you know, I really don't. But how do we still

613
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Speaker 1: go to the NCAA and it's listen to Michigan. Sharon

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00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:10,080
Speaker 1: Moore gets two games suspension this year, gets one next year,

615
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Speaker 1: but it's two games this year, Game three and four

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Speaker 1: because they're playing Oklahoma Week two. It's just what are

617
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Speaker 1: we doing at least in the NFL, whether you agree

618
00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:20,560
Speaker 1: or disagree. It's like Roger who works for the owners.

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Speaker 1: They got the CBA, like it's kind of black and white.

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Speaker 1: What happened? Now we can argue over certain suspensions. I

621
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Speaker 1: saw that he was gonna give Rashi Rice like a

622
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Speaker 1: ten game suspension, and who knows. Ultimately, point is, if

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Speaker 1: you're gonna take a kicker in the third round, I

624
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Speaker 1: don't mind doing that if your team's really good, he

625
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Speaker 1: just better be a star. And when you look at

626
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Speaker 1: kickers throughout history, but definitely in like the last twenty

627
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Speaker 1: five years, a lot of guys, you know, either are

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Speaker 1: undrafted or late draft und draft picks have success for

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Speaker 1: their second team. Pretty sure that Justin Tecker was an

630
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Speaker 1: undrafted free agent, so you typically don't have to draft. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: Sebastian Janakowski guys very high because it's one of those

632
00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:04,240
Speaker 1: positions where it's like you can just find guys who

633
00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:05,920
Speaker 1: could go on to have a lot of success for you,

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00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:08,880
Speaker 1: and they drafted him and it's been kind of a debacle.

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Speaker 1: Last year was pretty embarrassing, I mean bad enough where

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Speaker 1: they had a kicking competition, and then I'm watching him

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00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:17,240
Speaker 1: against the Raiders. He misses a long field goal, he

638
00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:20,480
Speaker 1: almost misses what's essentially was an extra point. It's like,

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00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:23,360
Speaker 1: I think this guy's gonna get cut after this game.

640
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:25,840
Speaker 1: And then he bangs a long field goal and hits

641
00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:27,920
Speaker 1: a game winning fifty nine yard field goal, and Kyle

642
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:30,280
Speaker 1: Shanahan said something which I give him credit at least

643
00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:32,320
Speaker 1: he had missed this, like I don't even talk to kickers,

644
00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:36,120
Speaker 1: I just tell him make kicks. Kyle Shanahan despises special teams,

645
00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:39,640
Speaker 1: which I've said all along. Most people do not care

646
00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:43,000
Speaker 1: even special teams. Coaches a little quirky, little different, but

647
00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:45,080
Speaker 1: like when you're the head coach, you do have to

648
00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:48,000
Speaker 1: put some emphasis there, and the forty nine ers simply

649
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:51,720
Speaker 1: do not. And they might get lucky here that Jake

650
00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:54,920
Speaker 1: Moody just maybe resurrected his career because they treated him.

651
00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:57,080
Speaker 1: I mean they might as well have just carried him

652
00:31:57,080 --> 00:32:00,480
Speaker 1: off the field. Their reaction because everyone knew it that

653
00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:03,320
Speaker 1: if this guy had missed a couple of long field goals,

654
00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:05,600
Speaker 1: especially the game winner, it would have been like that,

655
00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:09,000
Speaker 1: they're just this is they're gonna have to cut them

656
00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:11,440
Speaker 1: and now, and whether this is fair or not, Like

657
00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:13,960
Speaker 1: sometimes you can hit five balls out of bounds and

658
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:15,920
Speaker 1: then finally stripe one down the middle, and that might

659
00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:18,480
Speaker 1: be the case here, but this might, if he goes

660
00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:21,520
Speaker 1: on to have a successful career for the forty nine ers,

661
00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:24,320
Speaker 1: might have been the turning point. We've been talking about

662
00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:27,240
Speaker 1: this for a while. We've been hammering this home. Something

663
00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:30,240
Speaker 1: is weird with the rams, right, and in fairness to them,

664
00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:32,000
Speaker 1: like they might not even know. They're like, hey, he's

665
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:34,640
Speaker 1: got something with a disc. We're hoping this epidural. We're

666
00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:36,920
Speaker 1: hoping that, but no one knows. This is not an

667
00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:39,280
Speaker 1: injury where it's like, you know, he rolled his ankle,

668
00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:42,480
Speaker 1: he'll be back in two weeks, right, he sprained his knee,

669
00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:44,480
Speaker 1: he'll be out this long time. You don't really know

670
00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:46,560
Speaker 1: with a back. And then sometimes like he's ready to

671
00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:48,160
Speaker 1: go and then you throw him out there and all

672
00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:49,520
Speaker 1: of a sudden he can't get out of bed the

673
00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:52,680
Speaker 1: next day. But like a week ago. He was supposed

674
00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:55,640
Speaker 1: to throw. On Saturday, the Rams play a game, and

675
00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:57,120
Speaker 1: he wasn't gonna play in the game, but he was

676
00:32:57,200 --> 00:33:04,320
Speaker 1: gonna throw his own regiment. Everyone's asking, you know the Rams, McVeigh,

677
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:08,160
Speaker 1: which is cool. Let's assistant coaches kind of operate during

678
00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:09,920
Speaker 1: the preseason, like a lot of head coaches. Do I

679
00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:13,760
Speaker 1: know that Brian Kevin O'Connell does this. You know, a

680
00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:16,600
Speaker 1: lot of play callers will let other guys, you know,

681
00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:19,600
Speaker 1: call plays during the preseason. Some guys even let them

682
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:22,280
Speaker 1: run it, like I think Aubrey Pleasant it was the

683
00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:24,479
Speaker 1: head coach yesterday. I think McVeigh did this last year

684
00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:27,000
Speaker 1: as well. But he's like, I'm not talking about Stafford.

685
00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:29,360
Speaker 1: You got to McVeigh will talk about that on Monday.

686
00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:31,680
Speaker 1: And then all the reporters are going to the Rams,

687
00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:33,480
Speaker 1: like any comment on Matt Stafford. Did he throw? And

688
00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:36,600
Speaker 1: they're like, no comment. So it's like, listen, you made

689
00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:39,600
Speaker 1: a story which a little out of your control, and

690
00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:43,120
Speaker 1: I don't even believe it's like nefarious that Stafford this

691
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:45,560
Speaker 1: offseason knew that this was coming. Maybe he did, and

692
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:47,440
Speaker 1: if he did, that's pretty good business because this will

693
00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:50,600
Speaker 1: be the last contract he ever gets and they just

694
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:52,600
Speaker 1: have a problem on their hands. He can say whatever

695
00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:54,640
Speaker 1: that he wants, and he can hype up Jimmy Garoppolop

696
00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:56,959
Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolos or quarterback. They have no chance to make

697
00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:59,360
Speaker 1: the playoffs. I think we all acknowledge that. I mean,

698
00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:02,480
Speaker 1: they were winning ten games with Matt Stafford. So this

699
00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:05,160
Speaker 1: is not like the Eagles, you know, where you could

700
00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:08,000
Speaker 1: probably piece male quarterback situation to ten wins because your

701
00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:10,799
Speaker 1: talent's good enough. But I would imagine and listen. I

702
00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:13,239
Speaker 1: like Peter Schrager, and he's mcveigh's guy. He's like, they're

703
00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:16,640
Speaker 1: not freaking out like bullshit. They gotta be losing some

704
00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:21,080
Speaker 1: sleep over this. The Cardinals. You know what's funny is

705
00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:23,040
Speaker 1: like a couple of days ago, I was just randomly

706
00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:26,480
Speaker 1: thinking about Jacoby Burssett. I'm like, I wonder whatever happened

707
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:27,960
Speaker 1: to him just a couple of years ago. He's getting

708
00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:30,640
Speaker 1: opportunities to be a starter in multiple places, and now

709
00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:33,480
Speaker 1: he's just out of the league. And then I flip

710
00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:36,560
Speaker 1: on the game and it's Cardinals Broncos, and all of

711
00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:39,120
Speaker 1: a sudden, Jacoby Brissett runs in. I'm like, oh, yeahs

712
00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:44,560
Speaker 1: I don't want to screw up the GM's name. Mottin

713
00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:48,160
Speaker 1: fort Ossi mottin fort I totally just butchered his name.

714
00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:51,440
Speaker 1: But he was a former New England guy. He brings Jacoby,

715
00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:53,680
Speaker 1: he knows Jacoby, and then it kind of hit me.

716
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:58,800
Speaker 1: It's like, well, clearly Jacoby, who's super high character, mature,

717
00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:01,640
Speaker 1: just salted the you're a human being type guy that

718
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:04,640
Speaker 1: any team, especially if you have a young quarterback ers

719
00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:08,440
Speaker 1: an immature quarterback would like in the quarterback room. And

720
00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:11,200
Speaker 1: I was like, okay, I get the maturity. And then

721
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:13,600
Speaker 1: you watch him play and you realize his skill set

722
00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:17,400
Speaker 1: and Kyler Murray's skill set couldn't be any more opposite,

723
00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:21,120
Speaker 1: like they are on the polar opposite end of the spectrum.

724
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:25,440
Speaker 1: And typically I think ideally you want a quarterback with

725
00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:29,359
Speaker 1: somewhat of the similarities to your starting quarterback so if

726
00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:31,680
Speaker 1: they get injured, which a guy like Kyler Murray has

727
00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:34,359
Speaker 1: proven like he can get banged up, that there are

728
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:37,080
Speaker 1: some parallels with the play calling with the offense, and

729
00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:39,640
Speaker 1: so it's not some crazy like remember a couple of

730
00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:42,200
Speaker 1: years ago, it's like Anthony Richardson to Gardner Minshew, and

731
00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:44,520
Speaker 1: I remember Ballard said one off season. He's like, what

732
00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:46,919
Speaker 1: Shane Sichin did with that offense is pretty remarkable because

733
00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:50,200
Speaker 1: they're completely opposite players. And I also understand sometimes like

734
00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:52,560
Speaker 1: the best you can get. But like, let's face it,

735
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:54,800
Speaker 1: they brought in Jacoby Brissett, even though I think Kyler

736
00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:57,680
Speaker 1: Murray has matured from the guy that everyone was making

737
00:35:57,680 --> 00:36:00,960
Speaker 1: fun of for the call of duty, they see a

738
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:03,359
Speaker 1: benefit there of having him around. Jacoby. I just know this,

739
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:05,719
Speaker 1: if he gets injured, there is a dramatic difference of

740
00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:08,520
Speaker 1: the guy that comes in. I just think that there's

741
00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:10,840
Speaker 1: got to be a balance, you know, And I don't

742
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:15,200
Speaker 1: love that if I'm the Cardinals, like from a coaching

743
00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:17,160
Speaker 1: standpoint or even a player standpoint, if we have to

744
00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:20,560
Speaker 1: change dramatically the scheme because what Kyler's gonna do. I mean,

745
00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:22,440
Speaker 1: Jacoby can't move. I mean he's one of the worst

746
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:25,440
Speaker 1: athletes at his position by far in the NFL. So

747
00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:27,480
Speaker 1: I just I thought that was kind of interesting. Now

748
00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:30,400
Speaker 1: the forty nine ers play Seattle Week one. I'm not

749
00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:34,279
Speaker 1: trying to overreact to a preseason game. Andy Reid has

750
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:37,160
Speaker 1: as physical of the training camp as any coach in

751
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:40,480
Speaker 1: the NFL. I bet their guys in the middle of August.

752
00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:43,200
Speaker 1: Their legs are dead. So like my expectation for them

753
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:46,720
Speaker 1: in a preseason game, coming playing late at night in Seattle, whatever.

754
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:49,120
Speaker 1: I'm not judging them, but Seattle, if you just watch

755
00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:52,760
Speaker 1: their intensity, their physicality, they clearly a lot of people

756
00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:54,440
Speaker 1: think had a really good draft. I thought they had

757
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:56,960
Speaker 1: a good draft last year, like they could be a problem.

758
00:36:57,480 --> 00:36:59,920
Speaker 1: And I said this when we talked about some of

759
00:36:59,920 --> 00:37:02,440
Speaker 1: the division winners, like, you know, I like the Packers,

760
00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:05,440
Speaker 1: you know, I love the Texans. I think there's value

761
00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:08,120
Speaker 1: in the Denver Broncos. I think at this point in time,

762
00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:11,520
Speaker 1: it's either gonna be Denver obviously, just Kansas City's gonna

763
00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:13,719
Speaker 1: win it for an eighth straight year. But like of

764
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:17,120
Speaker 1: all the teams that had like kind of flyer odds,

765
00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:20,520
Speaker 1: I thought Seattle was, like, we know, their coach is

766
00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:23,759
Speaker 1: really good, right, Mike McDonald is one of, if not

767
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:27,880
Speaker 1: the best defensive mind in the NFL. They have drafted

768
00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:29,600
Speaker 1: really well on that side of the ball the last

769
00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:31,680
Speaker 1: couple of years, have a lot of young pieces. They're

770
00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:36,480
Speaker 1: gonna fit his scheme. Sam Darnold knows Kubiak because they

771
00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:39,520
Speaker 1: work together in San Francisco, like that scheme works and

772
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:42,120
Speaker 1: they got some pieces on offense. They won ten games

773
00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:44,920
Speaker 1: last year. It's not like, well it's like they won six.

774
00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:47,839
Speaker 1: Like they won ten games, four more than the forty

775
00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:50,279
Speaker 1: nine ers. I think that is a really really tough

776
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:52,400
Speaker 1: spot for the forty nine ers week one. Like I

777
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:55,680
Speaker 1: think if Seattle's gonna be the real deal, I think

778
00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:57,640
Speaker 1: they especially with the forty nine ers banged up as

779
00:37:57,640 --> 00:38:02,520
Speaker 1: they are, that's a really really tough spot. So yeah,

780
00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:05,480
Speaker 1: NFC West kind of interested in that one. Ashton genty

781
00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:10,880
Speaker 1: one of Frank Gore's you. I mean, he had a

782
00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:12,759
Speaker 1: lot of great characteristics. I mean, he was just a

783
00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:15,040
Speaker 1: very very good all around player and he's gonna be

784
00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:17,200
Speaker 1: in the Hall of Fame one day. But like part

785
00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:19,200
Speaker 1: of the reason he played for like thirty seasons in

786
00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:23,600
Speaker 1: the NFL is Frank Gored never wasted hits. Right if

787
00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:25,360
Speaker 1: he was in the open field and he could just

788
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:28,000
Speaker 1: get to your corner, your left or right shoulder and

789
00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:29,880
Speaker 1: just kind of avoid a big hit, he'd do it.

790
00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:31,799
Speaker 1: If you get out of bounds, he'd do it. He

791
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:35,040
Speaker 1: just wasn't like trying to run over everybody. And Ashton

792
00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:37,480
Speaker 1: Genty's built like a little tank and listen. He's really

793
00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:41,839
Speaker 1: really talented. But he had two plays yesterday, one where

794
00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:44,640
Speaker 1: he took on a linebacker just in the open field,

795
00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:47,240
Speaker 1: and it's like, and this is a backup linebacker, but still,

796
00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:50,880
Speaker 1: you're not gonna have a long NFL career. And I

797
00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:53,440
Speaker 1: would imagine peek, Carol and listen. I'm all for like,

798
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:55,880
Speaker 1: I want tough guys. I want no one questions your

799
00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:59,759
Speaker 1: toughness ashen. But I can't have you trying to run

800
00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:02,880
Speaker 1: a linebackers in the preseason when we got seventeen games.

801
00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:05,160
Speaker 1: This is not the Mountain West. You're not taking on

802
00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:07,600
Speaker 1: New Mexico or Fresno State. You're not taking on a

803
00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:09,720
Speaker 1: bunch of guys. They're gonna be farmers and insurance salesman.

804
00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:11,719
Speaker 1: As a lot of you guys forwarded me the Jake

805
00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:15,359
Speaker 1: from picture of he's literally selling insurance now and there's

806
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:17,520
Speaker 1: nothing wrong with that. Like's gonna he's gonna make a

807
00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:21,400
Speaker 1: ton in Georgia former Georgia quarterback. But we've invested in

808
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:24,000
Speaker 1: you to be a star in this league. Watch some

809
00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:29,920
Speaker 1: Barry Sanders highlights, right, he was avoiding hits. So to

810
00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:33,120
Speaker 1: be a healthy player, to be a successful player, you

811
00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:37,680
Speaker 1: gotta play smart and no one I totally understand, like

812
00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:40,280
Speaker 1: trying to prove as a young player to your teammates,

813
00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:44,080
Speaker 1: to your coaches, like I'm a tough sob just we

814
00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:46,600
Speaker 1: gotta be careful because he gets this hit and he

815
00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:48,600
Speaker 1: immediately goes to the tent. Now he comes back. But

816
00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:51,000
Speaker 1: it's like, you are too important. If we're gonna be

817
00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:53,239
Speaker 1: a team that's on the rise, not even this year,

818
00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:55,000
Speaker 1: but over the course of the next three or four years,

819
00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:58,880
Speaker 1: you're gonna be one of our most important players. I

820
00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:00,960
Speaker 1: was thinking about this because in the college football a

821
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:06,160
Speaker 1: lot you can get buying college football sometimes with multiple quarterbacks.

822
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:09,640
Speaker 1: I mean the Florida Tebow's rookie year won the Super Bowl,

823
00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:14,600
Speaker 1: or not the Super Bowl, the National Championship with multiple

824
00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:17,319
Speaker 1: quarterbacks Chris League and Tim Tebow. It happens sometimes now

825
00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:20,080
Speaker 1: typically one guy separates from the other. But in the NFL,

826
00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:22,960
Speaker 1: if you do not know who your starting quarterback is

827
00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:25,520
Speaker 1: in the middle to late August, you just not I

828
00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:28,560
Speaker 1: can't take you seriously. Like the Browns, most people don't

829
00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:30,759
Speaker 1: take them that seriously. We don't think the Browns are

830
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:34,520
Speaker 1: going to be that good, rightfully, so Flacco, Kenny Pickett obviously,

831
00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:37,440
Speaker 1: Dylan Gabriel and Shador Like they're all gonna play in

832
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:40,080
Speaker 1: what order at what time. No one knows, but I'll

833
00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:43,560
Speaker 1: promise you this. Maybe they cut Kenny Pickett to go

834
00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:45,200
Speaker 1: with Flaco, or maybe they cut Flacco to go with

835
00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:48,120
Speaker 1: Kenny Pickett. I would imagine Flacco ends up starting, But

836
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:53,399
Speaker 1: Dylan Gabriel and Chador Sanders are starting games. I would

837
00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:57,240
Speaker 1: bet four figures on that immediately. How many starts compared

838
00:40:57,280 --> 00:40:59,000
Speaker 1: to the two of us, I don't know, But Dylan

839
00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:01,840
Speaker 1: Gabriel and Shador See will both star games this year

840
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:05,720
Speaker 1: for the Cleveland Bress Bad teams. That happens, right even

841
00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:09,120
Speaker 1: I'll give Brian Dayball credit, like he just nips in

842
00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:11,400
Speaker 1: the bud right away. Russells Sharter Russell as Scharter And

843
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:13,839
Speaker 1: they said this, you know, way back four months ago

844
00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:17,239
Speaker 1: when they were doing spring ball the Colts, Like this

845
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:19,480
Speaker 1: is why I'm out on them. It's like we'll know

846
00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:22,520
Speaker 1: who the quarterback is soon. That's what Shane Syke keeps saying,

847
00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:24,920
Speaker 1: Like if you don't have your quarterback picked at this

848
00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:27,400
Speaker 1: point in time, like I just can't take you seriously

849
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:30,080
Speaker 1: as a playoff contender, even if I do like your

850
00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:31,920
Speaker 1: roster and think you got a good coach, and think

851
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:36,440
Speaker 1: you got you know, a a well run schematic advantage.

852
00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:39,040
Speaker 1: I got lou Amruno, good coach. If you got some

853
00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:41,560
Speaker 1: defensive players, I bet Colts are way better on defense.

854
00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:43,759
Speaker 1: I think Shane Sikin's a good coach. But if you

855
00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:47,239
Speaker 1: don't know who your quarterback is on August seventeenth, like,

856
00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:50,840
Speaker 1: I'm kind of out on your franchise. And one thing's clear,

857
00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:54,319
Speaker 1: Hayie Roseman just loves doing trades. I mean, the guy

858
00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:59,040
Speaker 1: just loves making trades. And he said to Will and

859
00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:02,520
Speaker 1: Taylor on bus with the Boys last week, it's funny

860
00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:05,560
Speaker 1: bobbling the pr guy who've known forever in forty nine ers.

861
00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:06,799
Speaker 1: I was like, how he said, it'll come on my

862
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:09,000
Speaker 1: podcast in the spring. He's like, oh, yeah, we're really busy,

863
00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:11,680
Speaker 1: and I guess I could go. I could go to Philly.

864
00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:13,839
Speaker 1: I've just known the guy for fifteen years. These guys,

865
00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:15,239
Speaker 1: you know, went on part of my take when I'm

866
00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:17,120
Speaker 1: bustling with the boys that they did go out to novacare.

867
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:19,840
Speaker 1: I just I wanted to a zoom so advantage them.

868
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:21,600
Speaker 1: Maybe I should next year, I have to go to

869
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:24,800
Speaker 1: Novacare to get that in person interview, but how he

870
00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:27,919
Speaker 1: basically said one thing my biggest regret as a general

871
00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:34,080
Speaker 1: manager was what everyone talks about passing on a guy

872
00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:36,080
Speaker 1: that's gonna be a first bout Hall of Famer one

873
00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:38,680
Speaker 1: day and Justin Jefferson one of the more talented players

874
00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:42,399
Speaker 1: that we've seen in the NFL in recent memory, right,

875
00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:45,600
Speaker 1: and he took Jalen Rager. And that's my mom can see.

876
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:47,720
Speaker 1: That's a fuck up. It's not like he's acknowledging anything

877
00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:51,160
Speaker 1: that we already don't know. But he also said that,

878
00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:53,920
Speaker 1: like sometimes you just don't need to overthink this and

879
00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:56,920
Speaker 1: just take good players from the best teams, like and

880
00:42:56,960 --> 00:43:00,400
Speaker 1: that's really what the Eagles and even he mentioned like

881
00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:02,080
Speaker 1: maybe we don't go to two super Bowls in the

882
00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:04,880
Speaker 1: last three years if we don't have that, you know,

883
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:08,719
Speaker 1: historic screw up. And I mean it was because of

884
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:11,960
Speaker 1: that draft. And you know, Rick Spielman and Mike Zimmer

885
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:13,960
Speaker 1: were on Zoom and we saw that clip of them

886
00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:17,840
Speaker 1: high five and they couldn't believe it. But John Metchi

887
00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:19,920
Speaker 1: I saw today who they just traded for with the

888
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:22,680
Speaker 1: Houston Texans. They gave up a backup tight end and

889
00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:25,120
Speaker 1: they like they gave a fIF the Texans gave a fifth,

890
00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:26,560
Speaker 1: and the Eagles gave a sixth. I mean, the draft

891
00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:29,200
Speaker 1: picks are just late picks. Metchi was a guy that

892
00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:32,520
Speaker 1: played at Alabama that hurt his knee. Was there with

893
00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:34,359
Speaker 1: Jamison Williams. I mean, it looked like they were gonna

894
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:36,279
Speaker 1: win the national championship. Then both those guys got hurt

895
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:38,360
Speaker 1: when they replayed Georgia. They lost because they didn't have

896
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:41,680
Speaker 1: any wide receivers. But I would say his careers never

897
00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:43,600
Speaker 1: really got on track. And this will now be the

898
00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:48,480
Speaker 1: ninth player from Alabama that will be on the Eagles.

899
00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:50,960
Speaker 1: And I do think they believe they have an advantage

900
00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:54,400
Speaker 1: with these guys getting them around their crew. And what

901
00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:57,040
Speaker 1: have they done. They've littered their roster with guys from

902
00:43:57,120 --> 00:44:00,600
Speaker 1: Nick Saban and Kirby Smart, which essentially are the same guy,

903
00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:03,600
Speaker 1: because Kirby Smart is just the mentee to Nick Saban,

904
00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:07,799
Speaker 1: and I listen, he likes value. He sees a guy

905
00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:12,120
Speaker 1: that was drafted really high. Clearly Mechi was not gonna

906
00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:16,080
Speaker 1: work with the Houston Texans for whatever reason. But I

907
00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:20,279
Speaker 1: feel like how he's already made multiple trades this preseason

908
00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:22,600
Speaker 1: and it wouldn't shock me at all if over the

909
00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:25,960
Speaker 1: next couple of weeks that he makes another trade. So yeah,

910
00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:27,959
Speaker 1: I mean speaking of the Texans, and this is one

911
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:32,480
Speaker 1: area I saw CJ Stroud. They joint practice with the Panthers,

912
00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:35,360
Speaker 1: and you know, he's known Bryce because they both are

913
00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:38,560
Speaker 1: from southern California. I'm actually sitting probably not too far

914
00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:42,280
Speaker 1: away where they grew up, and CJ is just pretty

915
00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:45,480
Speaker 1: high level guy, super just impressive guy whenever he talks,

916
00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:49,240
Speaker 1: and it really got me thinking, is like one area

917
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:51,520
Speaker 1: that I might have screwed up when it came to Bryce.

918
00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:55,840
Speaker 1: And I would say any especially any quarterback that played, Like,

919
00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:58,200
Speaker 1: say what you want about Tua. He's got some limitations

920
00:44:58,239 --> 00:45:03,680
Speaker 1: physically physically, but he's pretty solid and mentally he's pretty tough, right,

921
00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:06,719
Speaker 1: and clearly Bryce young Sometimes I try to quantify. It's like, well,

922
00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:09,839
Speaker 1: he's way too small, and listen, he's not very big.

923
00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:12,839
Speaker 1: I think he's one of the smallest quarterbacks we'll ever

924
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:15,879
Speaker 1: see in NFL history, right, And definitely when he first

925
00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:18,120
Speaker 1: got drafted and he played in a preseason game as

926
00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:20,799
Speaker 1: a rookie, You're like, this guy looks tiny, but you

927
00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:25,239
Speaker 1: can't underestimate at at quarterback, the importance of all the

928
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:29,120
Speaker 1: stuff that doesn't get all the intangible stuff, all the

929
00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:32,719
Speaker 1: unquantifiable stuff, how tough you are, how mentally tough you are,

930
00:45:32,719 --> 00:45:36,800
Speaker 1: how smart you are, how unfazed you'll be by adversity,

931
00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:39,200
Speaker 1: or how well that you can handle the tough times.

932
00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:42,319
Speaker 1: And if you've played for Nick Saban, like you've been

933
00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:45,840
Speaker 1: getting mf from the moment you step on campus. And

934
00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:48,760
Speaker 1: I was talking to someone about the Panthers and they're like, actually,

935
00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:50,520
Speaker 1: I think their line of scrimmage on both sides are

936
00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:54,480
Speaker 1: pretty good, and if offensively some of their weapons, you know,

937
00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:56,160
Speaker 1: they draft a guy in the top ten at wide

938
00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:58,600
Speaker 1: receiver if they can be pretty good. But like Bryce

939
00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:02,520
Speaker 1: has looked really really good this preseason and clearly the

940
00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:04,839
Speaker 1: way everything happened last year that he couldn't have been

941
00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:08,280
Speaker 1: much worse to start the season. Is this is why.

942
00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:11,160
Speaker 1: And we talked about this last week with Jason light

943
00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:15,319
Speaker 1: talking about like, we don't draft douchebags and assholes. And

944
00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:17,919
Speaker 1: I think on the other side, it's why you emphasize

945
00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:25,080
Speaker 1: character and intangibles because this stuff's really really hard, and

946
00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:29,239
Speaker 1: playing quarterback in the NFL is extremely difficult, even if

947
00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:32,759
Speaker 1: you are talented, so mentally, how tough you are, how

948
00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:36,359
Speaker 1: smart you are, how willing you are to grind. That

949
00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:39,640
Speaker 1: helps separate guys because a lot of people, like in

950
00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:43,200
Speaker 1: any line of work or any walk of life, the

951
00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:47,000
Speaker 1: easiest thing always is to tap out, is to quit,

952
00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:49,399
Speaker 1: is to make an excuse, I'm just not good enough.

953
00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:51,520
Speaker 1: I saw Tom Brady talk about this with Greg Olsen.

954
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:54,920
Speaker 1: He's like so many people I played with or played against,

955
00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:56,919
Speaker 1: would just it was so easy to be like, didn't

956
00:46:56,960 --> 00:46:59,919
Speaker 1: have it today, Yeah, just not feeling it this week.

957
00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:04,280
Speaker 1: It's like, what like that you can It's so easy

958
00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:07,239
Speaker 1: to get a negative mindset for all of us, I

959
00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:09,520
Speaker 1: don't care what you're doing, and to go down that

960
00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:11,920
Speaker 1: rabbit hole and to make an excuse, and especially for

961
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:14,480
Speaker 1: cig Or, I mean for Bryce, he could have been like, Wow,

962
00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:16,840
Speaker 1: I'm just with a shitty organization. They put me in

963
00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:20,520
Speaker 1: a bad spot. It's not all my fault. Instead, it

964
00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:22,600
Speaker 1: just felt like kind of kept his mouth shut, went

965
00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:25,600
Speaker 1: to work and then bounce back. And while I think

966
00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:27,840
Speaker 1: there's there's like a legit chance if you told me

967
00:47:27,880 --> 00:47:30,840
Speaker 1: Seattle wins the NFC West, I would not be shocked

968
00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:34,560
Speaker 1: at all. I don't think that the Carolina Panthers can

969
00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:36,960
Speaker 1: win the division. But if you told me, like heading

970
00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:40,719
Speaker 1: into December, they're like in the wild card discussion, I

971
00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:43,640
Speaker 1: think that's very, very possible. Now. I think if you

972
00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:45,600
Speaker 1: had a redo and you gave the opportunity to every

973
00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:47,880
Speaker 1: general manager in the NFL, would you take c J.

974
00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:50,279
Speaker 1: Stroud or Bryce Young? You would take c J.

975
00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:50,720
Speaker 3: Stroud.

976
00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:53,319
Speaker 1: But I do think there's a chance within the next

977
00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:55,160
Speaker 1: year or two we look back and go, you know

978
00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:59,480
Speaker 1: what Bryce young'zahid player? Well, no shit. We saw him

979
00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:01,560
Speaker 1: at Alabama, played a really high level. We knew the

980
00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:04,360
Speaker 1: competition where the competitor was in him. We knew he

981
00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:06,759
Speaker 1: was tough. I remember watching him against that Georgia team

982
00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:09,319
Speaker 1: that had one hundred guys playing in the NFL. Him

983
00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:12,600
Speaker 1: just getting peppered, molly wopped like every other play with

984
00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:15,480
Speaker 1: Metchi and Jamison Williams injured, and just kept getting up

985
00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:17,160
Speaker 1: and kept swinging him Like God. I like this guy,

986
00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:20,360
Speaker 1: and I think it's why a lot of NFL people

987
00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:22,520
Speaker 1: will drawn to him, even though he doesn't check a

988
00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:24,680
Speaker 1: lot of boxes, I mean five to nine a buck

989
00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:28,920
Speaker 1: eighty five, but the intangibles with him are going to

990
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:33,000
Speaker 1: be the reason you know, the guy has success if

991
00:48:33,040 --> 00:48:34,759
Speaker 1: they have a good year. And honestly, I could see

992
00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:50,800
Speaker 1: the Panthers just being a little sneaky this year. Okay,

993
00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:54,600
Speaker 1: very very excited to have a fourteen year NFL VET

994
00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:59,640
Speaker 1: and critically acclaimed broadcaster, A man who I think it

995
00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:02,960
Speaker 1: pretty unprecedented move started broadcasting while he was still playing

996
00:49:03,560 --> 00:49:06,719
Speaker 1: Greg Olsen live from Charlotte. What's going on on? Man?

997
00:49:07,239 --> 00:49:09,040
Speaker 3: Doing great? Appreciate you having me on. How you guys

998
00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:10,479
Speaker 3: doing doing good?

999
00:49:10,520 --> 00:49:13,640
Speaker 1: Doing really good? Uh? I you know, I thought let's

1000
00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:16,160
Speaker 1: just jump into what you got going on with you

1001
00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:18,879
Speaker 1: think my wife told me a couple of months ago

1002
00:49:18,960 --> 00:49:22,680
Speaker 1: that she's pregnant and we are having our a son

1003
00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:25,719
Speaker 1: here in early January. And I was just watching you

1004
00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:29,719
Speaker 1: with Tom. That'd be Tom Brady talking a lot about,

1005
00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:33,479
Speaker 1: you know, raising children, what goes on with athletics. And

1006
00:49:33,719 --> 00:49:35,279
Speaker 1: you and I are the same age. We graduated high

1007
00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:37,399
Speaker 1: school the same year, and we grew up in an area.

1008
00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:39,160
Speaker 1: I know your dad was your high school coach, but

1009
00:49:39,280 --> 00:49:41,520
Speaker 1: where my dad just dropped me off at practice and

1010
00:49:41,560 --> 00:49:44,120
Speaker 1: picked me up. You know, you played high school sports,

1011
00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:48,200
Speaker 1: the travel leagues might have gone within a sixty mile radius.

1012
00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:50,799
Speaker 1: I mean I have families that you know, I live

1013
00:49:50,840 --> 00:49:52,640
Speaker 1: in Scottsdale, and I got a bunch of family that

1014
00:49:52,680 --> 00:49:55,279
Speaker 1: still lives in California and they're traveling baseball team, like

1015
00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:58,360
Speaker 1: this is a short trip for them from California. I'm like,

1016
00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:02,440
Speaker 1: this is insane, and it's just it's kind of a

1017
00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:05,480
Speaker 1: completely It was very simple, I would say growing up

1018
00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:07,359
Speaker 1: in the nineties when it came to athletics, you either

1019
00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:10,360
Speaker 1: good enough like yourself or who you weren't like me.

1020
00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:14,680
Speaker 1: But it wasn't the traveling sports that the camps for football.

1021
00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:19,200
Speaker 1: I mean, that's just how do you navigate it as

1022
00:50:19,239 --> 00:50:19,600
Speaker 1: a dad?

1023
00:50:20,560 --> 00:50:22,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, So I think the best way to put, you know,

1024
00:50:22,600 --> 00:50:24,400
Speaker 3: the best way to kind of summarize everything you just

1025
00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:26,920
Speaker 3: said is so spot on. The best way really to

1026
00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:30,320
Speaker 3: summarize is back in the day, there was no decisions

1027
00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:32,560
Speaker 3: to be made. You played for your town rec league.

1028
00:50:32,560 --> 00:50:35,280
Speaker 3: If it was winter, you played basketball, if it was spring,

1029
00:50:35,360 --> 00:50:38,759
Speaker 3: you played baseball or lacrosse or soccer. And if it

1030
00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:41,560
Speaker 3: was the fall, you played football. And that was pretty

1031
00:50:41,600 --> 00:50:43,920
Speaker 3: much it in our lives. Those were the only offerings,

1032
00:50:43,960 --> 00:50:47,120
Speaker 3: and you played with the same kids every season, and

1033
00:50:47,600 --> 00:50:50,840
Speaker 3: everyone did the exact same thing. Nowadays, every day is

1034
00:50:50,840 --> 00:50:53,719
Speaker 3: a decision. What level of competition do I want my

1035
00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:56,120
Speaker 3: kid to play? What teams should they play for? What

1036
00:50:56,200 --> 00:50:59,160
Speaker 3: if he's not batting or playing the right position, does

1037
00:50:59,160 --> 00:51:01,080
Speaker 3: he play enough? What school should he go to? What

1038
00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:02,560
Speaker 3: high school should he go to? Should he go to

1039
00:51:02,640 --> 00:51:05,240
Speaker 3: multiple high schools? Should he go to a sports academy?

1040
00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:09,640
Speaker 3: I mean there are unlimited options right now, and when

1041
00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:13,040
Speaker 3: done right there is there's no better time to develop

1042
00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:15,160
Speaker 3: as an athlete than there is right now. The access

1043
00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:19,600
Speaker 3: to information resources, the training, the skill development, the way

1044
00:51:19,719 --> 00:51:23,080
Speaker 3: kids are using the weight room, that eating, the nutrition,

1045
00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:26,239
Speaker 3: just everything about youth sports now you used to not

1046
00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:28,720
Speaker 3: get until you were in college. That's now creeped down

1047
00:51:29,160 --> 00:51:31,880
Speaker 3: into the middle school. You know, sports teams at schools.

1048
00:51:32,360 --> 00:51:36,239
Speaker 3: But with that, everyone loses track of what is the

1049
00:51:36,320 --> 00:51:38,600
Speaker 3: ultimate goal and the open the ultimate goal is to

1050
00:51:38,680 --> 00:51:42,000
Speaker 3: keep long term athletic development as the core driver of

1051
00:51:42,040 --> 00:51:45,080
Speaker 3: everything you do. And when you race development and when

1052
00:51:45,120 --> 00:51:47,520
Speaker 3: it's a race to twelve and a race to thirteen,

1053
00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:50,880
Speaker 3: you skip over a lot of really important steps. You

1054
00:51:50,920 --> 00:51:53,520
Speaker 3: skip over adversity, you skip out of sticking with it

1055
00:51:53,719 --> 00:51:55,719
Speaker 3: when you're not getting playing time or when you're not

1056
00:51:55,760 --> 00:51:57,759
Speaker 3: the best kid on the team, and you don't just

1057
00:51:57,760 --> 00:51:59,680
Speaker 3: get to flip flop and go to fifty different teams

1058
00:51:59,760 --> 00:52:02,200
Speaker 3: till you find out when you're the quarterback. Like, those

1059
00:52:02,280 --> 00:52:04,759
Speaker 3: are the realities of the world, and for a lot

1060
00:52:04,760 --> 00:52:08,000
Speaker 3: of kids, we're skipping those steps. So it's everything you

1061
00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:11,320
Speaker 3: said is so spot on. There are so many different

1062
00:52:11,320 --> 00:52:14,600
Speaker 3: things being thrown at these kids, these families. And as

1063
00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:16,680
Speaker 3: someone who grew up in this world, as you know,

1064
00:52:16,719 --> 00:52:18,239
Speaker 3: from the time I was a little boy around my

1065
00:52:18,320 --> 00:52:21,000
Speaker 3: dad's high school teams and obviously made a career out

1066
00:52:21,040 --> 00:52:23,719
Speaker 3: of it. Now as the other side of the as

1067
00:52:23,760 --> 00:52:25,600
Speaker 3: things have come full circle and now I'm a dad,

1068
00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:27,400
Speaker 3: there's a lot of things about this world that I

1069
00:52:27,440 --> 00:52:29,560
Speaker 3: don't know what to do. And I and I really

1070
00:52:29,600 --> 00:52:32,120
Speaker 3: have a lot of understanding and patience for parents who

1071
00:52:32,239 --> 00:52:34,920
Speaker 3: really who reach out to us and say, we don't

1072
00:52:34,920 --> 00:52:36,600
Speaker 3: know what to do with our son or our daughter,

1073
00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:38,959
Speaker 3: We don't know if we're on the right track. Help

1074
00:52:39,040 --> 00:52:41,560
Speaker 3: us get better information, And a lot of those conversations

1075
00:52:41,560 --> 00:52:43,160
Speaker 3: are the ones that we're having on you think.

1076
00:52:43,960 --> 00:52:45,719
Speaker 1: You know what's funny is I think about all the time,

1077
00:52:45,800 --> 00:52:47,120
Speaker 1: Like it it's so easy if you have a son

1078
00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:48,600
Speaker 1: be like, well, he's not gonna play in the NBA

1079
00:52:48,719 --> 00:52:50,759
Speaker 1: or the NFL's why even waste time if he's not

1080
00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:53,279
Speaker 1: that good playing high school football, and it's easy to

1081
00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:55,279
Speaker 1: push him away and listen, I was never like you.

1082
00:52:55,360 --> 00:52:58,080
Speaker 1: I was never gonna play Division one football, but playing

1083
00:52:58,080 --> 00:53:01,280
Speaker 1: in high school made me fall in love with a sport,

1084
00:53:01,880 --> 00:53:04,560
Speaker 1: create relationships with guys. You know, twenty plus years later,

1085
00:53:04,600 --> 00:53:06,880
Speaker 1: I'm still close with because of my love of football.

1086
00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:08,319
Speaker 1: I got to work for Andy Reid, I do what

1087
00:53:08,360 --> 00:53:11,839
Speaker 1: I do now. It changed my life. But looking back,

1088
00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:13,480
Speaker 1: it's like, well, he's not any good, why would he play?

1089
00:53:13,520 --> 00:53:16,080
Speaker 1: But my dad and my parents were like, do whatever

1090
00:53:16,120 --> 00:53:18,320
Speaker 1: you want. Like they were very supportive because it was

1091
00:53:18,360 --> 00:53:20,040
Speaker 1: an arrow where it's like you want to be on

1092
00:53:20,040 --> 00:53:21,520
Speaker 1: the swim team, you want to play basketball, you want

1093
00:53:21,520 --> 00:53:23,400
Speaker 1: to play, but you just kind of did everything. You know,

1094
00:53:23,440 --> 00:53:25,480
Speaker 1: It's like, let's go play golf, let's go try tennis,

1095
00:53:25,600 --> 00:53:27,839
Speaker 1: Like who cares? Just do whatever you want. And it's

1096
00:53:27,920 --> 00:53:30,560
Speaker 1: kind of sad because I would imagine playing basketball for

1097
00:53:30,680 --> 00:53:33,600
Speaker 1: you as you went on in your football career. Some

1098
00:53:33,680 --> 00:53:37,680
Speaker 1: of those attributes that you learned on a basketball court

1099
00:53:37,719 --> 00:53:40,759
Speaker 1: in high school translated to try to get open against

1100
00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:43,680
Speaker 1: safeties and linebackers throughout your NFL career.

1101
00:53:43,880 --> 00:53:46,960
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, So I think the multi sport argument I

1102
00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:50,799
Speaker 3: always say is twofold number one. Like you said, there

1103
00:53:50,880 --> 00:53:55,480
Speaker 3: is a physical development component to playing different sports that

1104
00:53:55,880 --> 00:53:58,800
Speaker 3: are unique to the said sport. Right. In basketball, it's footwork,

1105
00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:01,600
Speaker 3: it's change of direction, it's metrics, it's jumping, it's catching

1106
00:54:01,600 --> 00:54:04,320
Speaker 3: the ball above your head, it's landing on one foot,

1107
00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:07,480
Speaker 3: being in balance defending. Like, there's a lot of movements

1108
00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:10,920
Speaker 3: in basketball that are really good carryover to football and

1109
00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:14,600
Speaker 3: vice versa. I think baseball brings a mental component of

1110
00:54:14,640 --> 00:54:17,439
Speaker 3: struggling and failure, and you know you're in a zero

1111
00:54:17,480 --> 00:54:19,600
Speaker 3: for ten slump, but you can't just pack it in

1112
00:54:19,640 --> 00:54:21,279
Speaker 3: and walk off the field. So I think it's a

1113
00:54:21,360 --> 00:54:24,080
Speaker 3: slower game, more of a mental game, more of a

1114
00:54:24,120 --> 00:54:27,279
Speaker 3: mental grind than it is a physical demand. I think

1115
00:54:27,320 --> 00:54:29,319
Speaker 3: a lot of those qualities will serve you well in

1116
00:54:29,440 --> 00:54:33,480
Speaker 3: other sports. So I think every sports unique culture and demands,

1117
00:54:33,480 --> 00:54:36,160
Speaker 3: both physically and mentally, are a really good way to

1118
00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:40,160
Speaker 3: broaden your your you know, your horizons a little bit

1119
00:54:40,239 --> 00:54:43,040
Speaker 3: on but not only your just your physical capabilities and

1120
00:54:43,080 --> 00:54:45,880
Speaker 3: your physical development, but also your ability to be mentally

1121
00:54:45,920 --> 00:54:47,839
Speaker 3: tough to deal with adversity and all of those sort

1122
00:54:47,840 --> 00:54:50,040
Speaker 3: of things. I also think there's an element when I

1123
00:54:50,040 --> 00:54:52,520
Speaker 3: think back to my time in high school. When I

1124
00:54:52,600 --> 00:54:55,480
Speaker 3: walked onto the football field comes sophomore year in high school,

1125
00:54:55,480 --> 00:54:57,360
Speaker 3: it was it was a given I was going to

1126
00:54:57,400 --> 00:55:00,080
Speaker 3: go play college football. That was my path, that that

1127
00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:03,200
Speaker 3: was my future. Everyone in the area knew it. Everyone

1128
00:55:03,239 --> 00:55:05,200
Speaker 3: that came to one of our games knew it. When

1129
00:55:05,200 --> 00:55:07,279
Speaker 3: I walked in as a high school junior into the

1130
00:55:07,320 --> 00:55:09,960
Speaker 3: basketball court, there was no pressure on me to be

1131
00:55:09,960 --> 00:55:12,799
Speaker 3: the best player on the field. It was amazing. Like

1132
00:55:13,160 --> 00:55:16,799
Speaker 3: I loved high school track and field, I loved high

1133
00:55:16,840 --> 00:55:19,160
Speaker 3: school basketball. I was not going to be a college

1134
00:55:20,480 --> 00:55:23,040
Speaker 3: Olympic track and field athlete. I was not going to

1135
00:55:23,040 --> 00:55:27,280
Speaker 3: be a college anything basketball player. There was something freeing

1136
00:55:27,320 --> 00:55:30,120
Speaker 3: about just going out there and just playing with my buddies.

1137
00:55:30,360 --> 00:55:32,719
Speaker 3: It wasn't the end of the world like football was.

1138
00:55:33,040 --> 00:55:36,040
Speaker 3: Football was very serious that the expectations were that I

1139
00:55:36,080 --> 00:55:37,440
Speaker 3: was going to be the best player and I had

1140
00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:39,239
Speaker 3: to make every play and we had to win the

1141
00:55:39,239 --> 00:55:43,200
Speaker 3: state championship. There was a lot of burden as a

1142
00:55:43,239 --> 00:55:45,719
Speaker 3: young high school kid that you felt because that was

1143
00:55:45,760 --> 00:55:48,840
Speaker 3: the expectations of your future. It wasn't that way in basketball.

1144
00:55:48,840 --> 00:55:51,080
Speaker 3: So I loved basketball season because I could just go

1145
00:55:51,080 --> 00:55:53,759
Speaker 3: out and play and we'd win, we'd lose. You're with

1146
00:55:53,800 --> 00:55:55,840
Speaker 3: your buddies. It wasn't the end of the world. So

1147
00:55:56,280 --> 00:55:58,920
Speaker 3: I also think even for these kids that clearly have

1148
00:55:59,160 --> 00:56:01,440
Speaker 3: their future laid out by sophomore in junior year, and

1149
00:56:01,480 --> 00:56:04,040
Speaker 3: it's a given, this sport is the sport you have,

1150
00:56:04,840 --> 00:56:08,040
Speaker 3: there's something very liberating about playing in the other sports

1151
00:56:08,040 --> 00:56:10,839
Speaker 3: where there are no expectations, there is no pressure and

1152
00:56:10,960 --> 00:56:13,400
Speaker 3: just go out and be a high school kid and compete,

1153
00:56:13,760 --> 00:56:15,400
Speaker 3: and knowing you don't have to be the best, you know,

1154
00:56:15,600 --> 00:56:19,320
Speaker 3: to just go out and compete, like I just believe

1155
00:56:19,400 --> 00:56:22,120
Speaker 3: so wholeheartedly that that's going to serve you so well

1156
00:56:22,520 --> 00:56:25,919
Speaker 3: as you continue to move forward. And I look back

1157
00:56:26,239 --> 00:56:28,200
Speaker 3: as much as I loved high school football, is you know,

1158
00:56:28,239 --> 00:56:29,919
Speaker 3: it's the best moment of your life. It's the best

1159
00:56:29,920 --> 00:56:32,560
Speaker 3: time in your life. I look back on my high

1160
00:56:32,600 --> 00:56:34,920
Speaker 3: school days as a basketball player in a track and

1161
00:56:34,960 --> 00:56:37,759
Speaker 3: throwing the shot put and running into four by four relays.

1162
00:56:37,800 --> 00:56:40,480
Speaker 3: Like we didn't win the state championship. We weren't the

1163
00:56:40,480 --> 00:56:43,239
Speaker 3: best team around, but it was a blast and I

1164
00:56:43,280 --> 00:56:45,800
Speaker 3: think those high school memories kids are missing out.

1165
00:56:45,680 --> 00:56:49,640
Speaker 1: On when I think viral a couple of weeks ago

1166
00:56:49,760 --> 00:56:51,640
Speaker 1: when you were all with Will and Taylor talking about

1167
00:56:51,640 --> 00:56:55,319
Speaker 1: the youth team that you coach. Yeah, and you know,

1168
00:56:55,360 --> 00:56:57,480
Speaker 1: I grew up in Davis and California, so we had

1169
00:56:57,520 --> 00:57:00,279
Speaker 1: a small college and when the UC Davis guy would

1170
00:57:00,280 --> 00:57:02,160
Speaker 1: show up to either pee wee football it was actually

1171
00:57:02,160 --> 00:57:04,960
Speaker 1: called midgets back then, or to recess or whatever, it

1172
00:57:05,000 --> 00:57:07,400
Speaker 1: was a big deal. But I can only imagine what

1173
00:57:07,400 --> 00:57:11,080
Speaker 1: it's like when you guys initially committed. I would imagine,

1174
00:57:11,120 --> 00:57:15,879
Speaker 1: because your son's on the team for you, Luke, what's

1175
00:57:15,960 --> 00:57:19,400
Speaker 1: the turnout out there with the other dads whose sons

1176
00:57:19,440 --> 00:57:22,840
Speaker 1: are playing, Because I'd imagine a lot of guys your age, right, Yeah,

1177
00:57:22,880 --> 00:57:25,240
Speaker 1: they grew up watching you grew up. I mean we're

1178
00:57:25,240 --> 00:57:28,160
Speaker 1: in their twenties and thirties when you were playing as

1179
00:57:28,680 --> 00:57:31,160
Speaker 1: the experience of the intensity of it. But like those dads,

1180
00:57:31,280 --> 00:57:32,840
Speaker 1: how often they asked me to come hang out.

1181
00:57:33,640 --> 00:57:36,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, we welcome and all the sports that we coach,

1182
00:57:36,240 --> 00:57:39,800
Speaker 3: we welcome families to be around practice. I love when

1183
00:57:39,800 --> 00:57:42,000
Speaker 3: our families come watch what we do. I love when

1184
00:57:42,040 --> 00:57:43,960
Speaker 3: they listen in on our team meetings and our team

1185
00:57:44,000 --> 00:57:46,720
Speaker 3: huddle and the end of practice review. I want them

1186
00:57:46,760 --> 00:57:49,120
Speaker 3: to hear me too, Are you the head coach? Yeah,

1187
00:57:49,680 --> 00:57:52,400
Speaker 3: of the middle school team, just of the middle school team.

1188
00:57:52,560 --> 00:57:54,840
Speaker 3: So I love when the parents hear us tell their

1189
00:57:54,920 --> 00:57:56,600
Speaker 3: kid how good they did. But I also like when

1190
00:57:56,600 --> 00:57:59,360
Speaker 3: their parents hear us coach their kid and correct their

1191
00:57:59,400 --> 00:58:01,880
Speaker 3: kid and tell them that their efforts not good enough

1192
00:58:01,960 --> 00:58:04,320
Speaker 3: or we need to be better. Like I think they

1193
00:58:04,400 --> 00:58:06,480
Speaker 3: need to hear the truth, and they need to hear

1194
00:58:06,520 --> 00:58:08,720
Speaker 3: it firsthand. I don't like when kids have to go

1195
00:58:08,800 --> 00:58:11,880
Speaker 3: home and wait, why'd you do a practice? I did good?

1196
00:58:12,080 --> 00:58:14,120
Speaker 3: What did coach say? I don't know if they're in

1197
00:58:14,160 --> 00:58:16,640
Speaker 3: you know, the kids, at least my own kids, like,

1198
00:58:16,840 --> 00:58:19,760
Speaker 3: they can't relay what happened. They're teenage boys. They for

1199
00:58:19,960 --> 00:58:21,240
Speaker 3: you know, they don't even know what day it is.

1200
00:58:21,760 --> 00:58:23,720
Speaker 3: So we first off, we welcome people to come to

1201
00:58:23,760 --> 00:58:26,439
Speaker 3: our practice. We don't get a ton of family parent

1202
00:58:27,640 --> 00:58:30,760
Speaker 3: coming to our practice. We have a full time coaching

1203
00:58:30,760 --> 00:58:33,280
Speaker 3: staff of like six guys, so we have plenty of

1204
00:58:33,760 --> 00:58:36,760
Speaker 3: plenty of helping hands devoted to just our middle school team.

1205
00:58:36,880 --> 00:58:40,760
Speaker 3: So but but they're welcome as far as the environment

1206
00:58:40,800 --> 00:58:42,959
Speaker 3: that we're trying to create, like we don't shy away

1207
00:58:42,960 --> 00:58:47,440
Speaker 3: from it. We are trying to emulate a water down

1208
00:58:47,640 --> 00:58:51,080
Speaker 3: but a very like high school football type of environment.

1209
00:58:51,520 --> 00:58:54,440
Speaker 3: And we do summer workouts three days a week all

1210
00:58:54,480 --> 00:58:56,959
Speaker 3: summer long. Kids are expected to be at them. We're

1211
00:58:56,960 --> 00:58:58,960
Speaker 3: doing strength and conditioning, We're in the weight room, we're

1212
00:58:58,960 --> 00:59:02,280
Speaker 3: doing speed and agility. We're training like we are preparing

1213
00:59:02,320 --> 00:59:06,200
Speaker 3: these kids to what high school football commitment looks like

1214
00:59:06,520 --> 00:59:08,440
Speaker 3: for them, some of them a year from now, some

1215
00:59:08,520 --> 00:59:10,680
Speaker 3: of them two years from now as they enter high school.

1216
00:59:10,720 --> 00:59:13,560
Speaker 3: So it's it's a blast. We're hard on them. We

1217
00:59:13,640 --> 00:59:15,800
Speaker 3: coach them hard. We demand that they do things the

1218
00:59:15,880 --> 00:59:20,080
Speaker 3: right way. We preach physicality, we preach we approach run

1219
00:59:20,080 --> 00:59:23,440
Speaker 3: into the ball and being violent, and we just we

1220
00:59:23,560 --> 00:59:27,280
Speaker 3: really try to teach them the game, the way the

1221
00:59:27,320 --> 00:59:29,440
Speaker 3: game is played. As they continue to get older, and

1222
00:59:29,480 --> 00:59:31,640
Speaker 3: I think to try to teach them the game in

1223
00:59:31,760 --> 00:59:34,640
Speaker 3: any other form or fashion is doing them all at disservice.

1224
00:59:34,760 --> 00:59:39,080
Speaker 3: So they respond to it. They're young boys, they love it.

1225
00:59:39,160 --> 00:59:41,600
Speaker 3: They they you know, even the kids that haven't played before,

1226
00:59:41,800 --> 00:59:44,480
Speaker 3: maybe they're a little hesitant early, they don't quite know.

1227
00:59:45,120 --> 00:59:47,280
Speaker 3: But if you bring them along in the right stages,

1228
00:59:47,320 --> 00:59:49,560
Speaker 3: all of a sudden that light bulb goes off and

1229
00:59:49,600 --> 00:59:51,400
Speaker 3: they let it rip. So we got a lot of

1230
00:59:51,400 --> 00:59:53,320
Speaker 3: fun with it. We got about fifty kids on the team,

1231
00:59:53,400 --> 00:59:56,200
Speaker 3: seventh and eighth graders, which is a good turnout and

1232
00:59:57,360 --> 00:59:58,560
Speaker 3: we love it. It's a blast.

1233
00:59:59,160 --> 01:00:02,280
Speaker 1: Could you envision your obviously your broadcasting career's gone pretty

1234
01:00:02,320 --> 01:00:05,920
Speaker 1: damn well, but ever coaching at a higher level than

1235
01:00:05,960 --> 01:00:07,320
Speaker 1: you're doing now. I know your dad was a long

1236
01:00:07,320 --> 01:00:10,160
Speaker 1: time high school coach. Is your dad's on your staff now? Correct?

1237
01:00:10,240 --> 01:00:12,479
Speaker 3: My dad's on our Yeah. So our staff is full

1238
01:00:12,480 --> 01:00:14,960
Speaker 3: time staff. We got six full time guys. We've got me,

1239
01:00:15,440 --> 01:00:20,920
Speaker 3: my dad, Luke, Jonathan Stewart, and Todd Blackledge. And we

1240
01:00:20,960 --> 01:00:23,120
Speaker 3: have a new staff member, the new kid, one of

1241
01:00:23,160 --> 01:00:25,560
Speaker 3: our members of the team. He played college ball at

1242
01:00:25,680 --> 01:00:28,400
Speaker 3: v Tech. Just a dad that has the flexibility to

1243
01:00:28,440 --> 01:00:30,520
Speaker 3: come help us. So we have a full staff of

1244
01:00:30,560 --> 01:00:33,200
Speaker 3: guys on site. We can do a ton of individual work,

1245
01:00:33,240 --> 01:00:35,760
Speaker 3: a ton of small group try to really limit the

1246
01:00:35,800 --> 01:00:39,680
Speaker 3: amount of standing around as much as we can. You know,

1247
01:00:40,040 --> 01:00:42,120
Speaker 3: we don't do the whole practice of just eleven on

1248
01:00:42,200 --> 01:00:44,280
Speaker 3: eleven and then the other thirty kids just stand on

1249
01:00:44,320 --> 01:00:46,720
Speaker 3: the sideline. I know what that's like. I know what

1250
01:00:46,760 --> 01:00:48,680
Speaker 3: that feels like for those kids. That is not a

1251
01:00:48,720 --> 01:00:52,120
Speaker 3: good way to develop everyone. So it's as much small

1252
01:00:52,200 --> 01:00:55,560
Speaker 3: group an individual as we can possibly do. And then

1253
01:00:55,600 --> 01:00:57,480
Speaker 3: of course at some point you've got to bring everybody

1254
01:00:57,520 --> 01:00:59,000
Speaker 3: together and put it on. It's a little harder to

1255
01:00:59,000 --> 01:01:01,760
Speaker 3: get the kids the reps there, but we've been doing

1256
01:01:01,760 --> 01:01:03,760
Speaker 3: it now four years at the young level, and we

1257
01:01:03,800 --> 01:01:06,680
Speaker 3: feel like we're still learning and still figure out exactly

1258
01:01:07,000 --> 01:01:09,040
Speaker 3: the best way to kind of do it age appropriate.

1259
01:01:09,040 --> 01:01:10,520
Speaker 3: But for the most part, we have a pretty good

1260
01:01:10,520 --> 01:01:11,800
Speaker 3: feel of what it looks like.

1261
01:01:12,240 --> 01:01:14,840
Speaker 1: You know what's cool is these kids. I mean they're young,

1262
01:01:15,120 --> 01:01:17,360
Speaker 1: but you know when they're twenty five thirty and they're

1263
01:01:17,400 --> 01:01:20,520
Speaker 1: working at Wells Fargo or Golden and Sacks or any

1264
01:01:20,600 --> 01:01:23,280
Speaker 1: tech this will be a legendary story that they will

1265
01:01:23,280 --> 01:01:26,360
Speaker 1: tell about Jonathan Stewart. No, I was a running back

1266
01:01:26,400 --> 01:01:28,720
Speaker 1: on my middle school team and Jonathan Stewart was telling

1267
01:01:28,720 --> 01:01:31,000
Speaker 1: about the angles to hit in the sea gap.

1268
01:01:32,680 --> 01:01:35,320
Speaker 3: I hope so, I hope the kids look back on

1269
01:01:35,440 --> 01:01:37,600
Speaker 3: these and you brought up such a good point before.

1270
01:01:38,200 --> 01:01:40,840
Speaker 3: We are not coaching any of these kids are all

1271
01:01:40,880 --> 01:01:43,400
Speaker 3: of the time we're putting in and the entire summer

1272
01:01:43,440 --> 01:01:45,760
Speaker 3: and the four and a half hour training camp days

1273
01:01:45,840 --> 01:01:48,320
Speaker 3: we just had one this morning, Like, we're not doing

1274
01:01:48,480 --> 01:01:51,800
Speaker 3: any of this under any false pretense that these kids

1275
01:01:51,840 --> 01:01:54,600
Speaker 3: are going to become professional footballers. Maybe some of them will,

1276
01:01:54,960 --> 01:01:58,080
Speaker 3: I don't know, but if none of them do, it's

1277
01:01:58,080 --> 01:02:00,360
Speaker 3: still all worth it. And that's the point, like we

1278
01:02:00,440 --> 01:02:02,560
Speaker 3: have to continue to get across to these kids. If

1279
01:02:02,600 --> 01:02:05,720
Speaker 3: the idea of youth sports was to generate professional athletes,

1280
01:02:06,320 --> 01:02:08,960
Speaker 3: everybody should just stop doing it because the odds of

1281
01:02:09,000 --> 01:02:11,800
Speaker 3: that being your kid are so small. Totally, it should

1282
01:02:11,800 --> 01:02:14,440
Speaker 3: be about everything else, you know. We tell them it's

1283
01:02:14,440 --> 01:02:17,400
Speaker 3: supposed to be hard. You're gonna be tired. It's early

1284
01:02:17,480 --> 01:02:19,440
Speaker 3: mornings and you're not gonna want to wake up. But

1285
01:02:19,480 --> 01:02:22,480
Speaker 3: guess what life's about showing up and working even when

1286
01:02:22,480 --> 01:02:25,160
Speaker 3: you don't always want to. And that's gonna serve you

1287
01:02:25,200 --> 01:02:27,640
Speaker 3: well at Wells Fargo and Goldman Sachs. It's gonna serve

1288
01:02:27,680 --> 01:02:29,600
Speaker 3: you well in your marriage. It's gonna serve you well

1289
01:02:29,880 --> 01:02:32,840
Speaker 3: in the classroom. That's the point of all of this.

1290
01:02:33,040 --> 01:02:36,480
Speaker 3: In the process of teaching these kids football, we're teaching

1291
01:02:36,520 --> 01:02:38,840
Speaker 3: these kids what life looks like and that life is

1292
01:02:38,840 --> 01:02:41,800
Speaker 3: not vacation and life is there's not everything always gonna

1293
01:02:41,840 --> 01:02:43,920
Speaker 3: go your way, but you're gonna have to battle through

1294
01:02:43,960 --> 01:02:45,439
Speaker 3: some stuff, and you're gonna have to be a keld

1295
01:02:45,440 --> 01:02:47,400
Speaker 3: accountable and you're gonna be pushed hard, and you're gonna

1296
01:02:47,400 --> 01:02:48,840
Speaker 3: have to you know, it might be a coach you

1297
01:02:48,880 --> 01:02:50,680
Speaker 3: don't like, or a teacher you don't like, or a

1298
01:02:50,720 --> 01:02:54,080
Speaker 3: boss you don't like. Guess what that's that's the real world.

1299
01:02:54,200 --> 01:02:57,240
Speaker 3: And we got to start showing these kids what that

1300
01:02:57,320 --> 01:02:59,440
Speaker 3: looks like. And there's no better way to do it

1301
01:02:59,680 --> 01:03:01,040
Speaker 3: than through youth sports.

1302
01:03:01,440 --> 01:03:03,560
Speaker 1: You know, it's funny you and Tom were talking about

1303
01:03:03,560 --> 01:03:06,360
Speaker 1: the transfer portal, and obviously it's a polarizing topic. I

1304
01:03:06,400 --> 01:03:08,720
Speaker 1: don't think you could meet any human being that you

1305
01:03:08,760 --> 01:03:11,360
Speaker 1: would respect that has any issue with anyone making any

1306
01:03:11,480 --> 01:03:14,840
Speaker 1: real money now in college athletics. But the transferring all

1307
01:03:14,880 --> 01:03:19,000
Speaker 1: over the place, I mean most people, and the knock

1308
01:03:19,040 --> 01:03:21,200
Speaker 1: is always like, well, if you were a student on campus,

1309
01:03:21,240 --> 01:03:23,320
Speaker 1: not a football player, you could earn whatever. Most of

1310
01:03:23,320 --> 01:03:25,880
Speaker 1: those people weren't bouncing around colleges, though they stayed. They

1311
01:03:26,040 --> 01:03:29,720
Speaker 1: help relationships, and those people might hire three of the

1312
01:03:29,720 --> 01:03:32,000
Speaker 1: people for their company that they lived with in this

1313
01:03:32,160 --> 01:03:35,600
Speaker 1: little apartment. And especially as a football player, you playing

1314
01:03:35,600 --> 01:03:37,920
Speaker 1: at Miami or any college could be D one DOUBLEA.

1315
01:03:38,320 --> 01:03:40,840
Speaker 1: The struggle you went through, those guys would go on

1316
01:03:40,880 --> 01:03:43,680
Speaker 1: to be your good friends, godfathers of your kids. And

1317
01:03:43,720 --> 01:03:45,320
Speaker 1: I start thinking, I know a bunch of people that

1318
01:03:45,360 --> 01:03:47,000
Speaker 1: work in college. I mean they get kids that have

1319
01:03:47,040 --> 01:03:50,040
Speaker 1: been to three schools in like a calendar year. It's

1320
01:03:50,040 --> 01:03:53,600
Speaker 1: like the relationships. How could you even meet any human

1321
01:03:53,680 --> 01:03:56,800
Speaker 1: beings and forge any sort of relationships that are extremely

1322
01:03:56,840 --> 01:03:59,640
Speaker 1: important when you're eighteen, nineteen, twenty years old looking back

1323
01:03:59,680 --> 01:04:01,600
Speaker 1: when you're our age and these people that you still

1324
01:04:01,640 --> 01:04:02,760
Speaker 1: text on a daily basis.

1325
01:04:03,120 --> 01:04:06,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, everyone's just a mercenary, right, We've just created a

1326
01:04:06,800 --> 01:04:10,840
Speaker 3: sports culture of mercenaries. And again, everyone has to do

1327
01:04:10,880 --> 01:04:13,120
Speaker 3: what they feels in their best interest. Everyone's now just

1328
01:04:13,160 --> 01:04:16,160
Speaker 3: playing by the rules as they're written. This is not

1329
01:04:16,320 --> 01:04:19,680
Speaker 3: unique to college. High school has really just become mercenary.

1330
01:04:20,120 --> 01:04:22,000
Speaker 3: Bounce around. If you don't like the school you're at,

1331
01:04:22,040 --> 01:04:24,200
Speaker 3: go to the school down the street, either rent an apartment,

1332
01:04:24,320 --> 01:04:26,720
Speaker 3: go to a public school, or obviously the private schools

1333
01:04:26,720 --> 01:04:29,200
Speaker 3: are just easy and they're getting anybody in and it's

1334
01:04:29,240 --> 01:04:31,520
Speaker 3: just accumulate as many good players as you can. There's

1335
01:04:31,920 --> 01:04:34,400
Speaker 3: everything about the youth sports scene, not even not everything,

1336
01:04:34,760 --> 01:04:36,880
Speaker 3: so much of the youth sports scene right now, from

1337
01:04:36,960 --> 01:04:39,919
Speaker 3: high school on down, and even obviously at the college level,

1338
01:04:39,920 --> 01:04:42,160
Speaker 3: even though I don't consider that like youth sports anymore.

1339
01:04:42,640 --> 01:04:47,440
Speaker 3: Is development is now secondary to player acquisition. Everything is

1340
01:04:47,480 --> 01:04:50,640
Speaker 3: just about player acquisition. If Kid A is not good enough,

1341
01:04:50,680 --> 01:04:51,960
Speaker 3: you're just going to go out and get Kid B.

1342
01:04:52,640 --> 01:04:56,920
Speaker 3: And it's a dangerous game. I think we're losing development

1343
01:04:56,960 --> 01:04:59,280
Speaker 3: in the long run. I think everybody's always looking for

1344
01:04:59,280 --> 01:05:03,680
Speaker 3: where the grass is greener, and it's ultimately a challenge.

1345
01:05:03,720 --> 01:05:07,520
Speaker 3: But the situation you just laid out about relationships, it

1346
01:05:07,560 --> 01:05:10,200
Speaker 3: all comes down to there's it just it affects your culture,

1347
01:05:10,720 --> 01:05:14,560
Speaker 3: and it's hard to establish. It's hard to establish culture

1348
01:05:14,880 --> 01:05:19,480
Speaker 3: and consistency. And we're all going through the hard times together.

1349
01:05:19,560 --> 01:05:21,560
Speaker 3: And our freshman year none of us traveled, and then

1350
01:05:21,600 --> 01:05:24,880
Speaker 3: as red shirt freshmen, we traveled, but we didn't play.

1351
01:05:24,920 --> 01:05:26,960
Speaker 3: And then all of a sudden, in year three, you

1352
01:05:27,040 --> 01:05:29,040
Speaker 3: carve it yourself out a nice role and then your

1353
01:05:29,080 --> 01:05:32,320
Speaker 3: four you're a starter. Those days are over. Those days

1354
01:05:32,360 --> 01:05:35,720
Speaker 3: don't exist, and I just hate that kids don't learn

1355
01:05:36,320 --> 01:05:39,840
Speaker 3: the value and the lessons of long term grit and

1356
01:05:40,000 --> 01:05:44,800
Speaker 3: long term just pushing through in adversity because at the

1357
01:05:44,840 --> 01:05:47,000
Speaker 3: first sign of adversity you can just go somewhere else.

1358
01:05:47,360 --> 01:05:52,640
Speaker 3: And I think it's a dangerous game, but again, we're

1359
01:05:52,680 --> 01:05:55,000
Speaker 3: playing the hand that we're dealt that The simple solution

1360
01:05:55,120 --> 01:05:57,560
Speaker 3: to all of this is you can either take nil

1361
01:05:57,680 --> 01:05:59,840
Speaker 3: money or you can be able to transfer. You can't

1362
01:05:59,840 --> 01:06:03,200
Speaker 3: do both. I think that would clean everything up. You

1363
01:06:03,240 --> 01:06:05,680
Speaker 3: want the opportunity to bounce around to find the best fit.

1364
01:06:05,960 --> 01:06:08,240
Speaker 3: No problem. You can't make a dollar the second I

1365
01:06:08,320 --> 01:06:11,520
Speaker 3: give you a dollar, you cannot break your contract with me.

1366
01:06:12,000 --> 01:06:15,680
Speaker 3: We cannot have NFL free agency every single year. Everyone's

1367
01:06:15,680 --> 01:06:18,880
Speaker 3: fine with the kids making money, But if Nebraska pays

1368
01:06:18,920 --> 01:06:21,280
Speaker 3: your four million a year for the next four years

1369
01:06:21,800 --> 01:06:25,920
Speaker 3: and you never become the starting quarterback, tough business. You

1370
01:06:25,960 --> 01:06:28,280
Speaker 3: took sixteen million and you went to the wrong school,

1371
01:06:28,560 --> 01:06:31,120
Speaker 3: that's on you, like you can't have it. You can't

1372
01:06:31,120 --> 01:06:33,240
Speaker 3: shop your service. In my opinion, you should not be

1373
01:06:33,240 --> 01:06:37,440
Speaker 3: able to shop your services every single year and sometimes

1374
01:06:38,120 --> 01:06:40,920
Speaker 3: bi annually. Because of the way the transfer portal windows,

1375
01:06:40,920 --> 01:06:43,200
Speaker 3: you can really enter the portal multiple times in a

1376
01:06:43,240 --> 01:06:46,480
Speaker 3: calendar year and just in essence, just shop yourself to

1377
01:06:46,520 --> 01:06:49,240
Speaker 3: the highest bidder. It's just it doesn't exist in any

1378
01:06:49,280 --> 01:06:58,960
Speaker 3: other framework of sports anywhere in the world, accepting college athletics.

1379
01:07:07,240 --> 01:07:09,080
Speaker 1: I mean, how many guys that you played with when

1380
01:07:09,120 --> 01:07:11,480
Speaker 1: you went to Miami and then the peak of their powers.

1381
01:07:11,520 --> 01:07:13,600
Speaker 1: I mean where I grew up in Northern California, DJ

1382
01:07:13,680 --> 01:07:17,560
Speaker 1: Williams was like a mythological figure. I mean it was

1383
01:07:17,560 --> 01:07:19,840
Speaker 1: like Ray Lewis meets Walter Payton. I played against his

1384
01:07:19,840 --> 01:07:22,360
Speaker 1: two younger brothers that played at Grant High School. One

1385
01:07:22,440 --> 01:07:23,800
Speaker 1: ended up I think they both ended up going to

1386
01:07:23,840 --> 01:07:27,680
Speaker 1: cow but DJ went to De La Sala's brothers played

1387
01:07:27,680 --> 01:07:30,360
Speaker 1: in Sacramento. But I mean that guy. I mean these

1388
01:07:30,640 --> 01:07:34,120
Speaker 1: in those guys. Back in those days, the world wasn't

1389
01:07:34,160 --> 01:07:36,600
Speaker 1: as flat. So like Tom going to Michigan from Northern

1390
01:07:36,600 --> 01:07:39,680
Speaker 1: California or DJ going to Miami. Wasn't you going from

1391
01:07:39,760 --> 01:07:42,000
Speaker 1: Jersey to Miami. It wasn't all these guys like now

1392
01:07:42,000 --> 01:07:44,400
Speaker 1: it's very normal for California kids go on all over

1393
01:07:44,440 --> 01:07:47,440
Speaker 1: the country. It was more of a one off situation

1394
01:07:47,600 --> 01:07:50,800
Speaker 1: or a small percentage of guys. But you know your

1395
01:07:51,080 --> 01:07:53,880
Speaker 1: roster at Miami, like I'm not starting as a freshman

1396
01:07:53,920 --> 01:07:55,720
Speaker 1: like I'm out right, I just would have gone to

1397
01:07:55,880 --> 01:08:00,000
Speaker 1: Clemson or Alabama or whatever. I just think those days

1398
01:08:00,040 --> 01:08:01,880
Speaker 1: days of these programs, and you see it right now

1399
01:08:01,880 --> 01:08:04,560
Speaker 1: in college football. Georgia, Alabama, even Ohio State on a

1400
01:08:04,600 --> 01:08:06,120
Speaker 1: year to year basic them out of a good season,

1401
01:08:06,360 --> 01:08:07,920
Speaker 1: but over the course of five years are just not

1402
01:08:07,960 --> 01:08:08,640
Speaker 1: going to be as deep.

1403
01:08:09,280 --> 01:08:11,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, that's really what it comes down to. The

1404
01:08:11,520 --> 01:08:14,200
Speaker 3: days of accumulating great depth up and down your roster

1405
01:08:14,280 --> 01:08:18,000
Speaker 3: are done. I had lunch with a prominent college coach

1406
01:08:18,040 --> 01:08:20,400
Speaker 3: earlier this offseason, and the way they looked at it is,

1407
01:08:20,760 --> 01:08:22,559
Speaker 3: in the old days, you tried to get as many

1408
01:08:22,640 --> 01:08:27,559
Speaker 3: layers deep on your roster as humanly possible. If you're Georgia, Alabama, Miami, USC,

1409
01:08:28,720 --> 01:08:32,720
Speaker 3: Ohio State, Penn State, those kind of those programs you

1410
01:08:32,760 --> 01:08:35,080
Speaker 3: could really have. In the old days, you could have

1411
01:08:35,280 --> 01:08:39,400
Speaker 3: four year running cycles of top tier four or five

1412
01:08:39,400 --> 01:08:42,920
Speaker 3: star recruits from senior year to freshman year and capture it.

1413
01:08:44,000 --> 01:08:46,200
Speaker 3: Everyone nowadays is just trying to get to at least

1414
01:08:46,240 --> 01:08:49,920
Speaker 3: too deep. Anything past too deep on your roster is gone.

1415
01:08:50,479 --> 01:08:53,679
Speaker 3: You have to assume that anybody who's not an immediate backup.

1416
01:08:53,720 --> 01:08:58,160
Speaker 3: At the minimum the next rotation of the transfer portal,

1417
01:08:58,320 --> 01:09:00,320
Speaker 3: they're going to be on somebody else's team. It's just

1418
01:09:00,360 --> 01:09:03,840
Speaker 3: the way of the world nowadays. The freshman third string

1419
01:09:03,920 --> 01:09:05,960
Speaker 3: guy is not willing to wait to be a junior

1420
01:09:06,000 --> 01:09:09,040
Speaker 3: to start and get two hundred touches. It's just he's

1421
01:09:09,040 --> 01:09:11,679
Speaker 3: either going to transfer down, he's going to transfer parallel,

1422
01:09:11,760 --> 01:09:14,920
Speaker 3: or he's going to move somewhere where someone promises him

1423
01:09:15,000 --> 01:09:18,200
Speaker 3: via nil money, or it just promises him through depth

1424
01:09:18,280 --> 01:09:21,559
Speaker 3: chart evaluation. You're the guy day one when you step

1425
01:09:21,600 --> 01:09:25,599
Speaker 3: on campus, come here, and I get it. No one

1426
01:09:25,680 --> 01:09:28,240
Speaker 3: wants to sit, No one wants to practice all day

1427
01:09:28,240 --> 01:09:32,960
Speaker 3: and not play. But again, did you earn it? I

1428
01:09:32,960 --> 01:09:34,840
Speaker 3: could make an argument that you didn't earn it. I

1429
01:09:34,840 --> 01:09:36,880
Speaker 3: can make an argument that you just went to the

1430
01:09:36,920 --> 01:09:39,679
Speaker 3: path of least resistance and even though you did play,

1431
01:09:39,680 --> 01:09:41,280
Speaker 3: And for a lot of guys, it works out like

1432
01:09:41,800 --> 01:09:46,639
Speaker 3: there's a callousness that gets built up over working your

1433
01:09:46,680 --> 01:09:49,200
Speaker 3: way through the system. And I think back to my

1434
01:09:49,280 --> 01:09:51,760
Speaker 3: freshman year at Miami. I red shirted and I was

1435
01:09:51,800 --> 01:09:54,880
Speaker 3: on the scout team. My red shirt freshman year, I

1436
01:09:55,000 --> 01:09:57,280
Speaker 3: was the second tight end in double tight end and

1437
01:09:57,320 --> 01:10:00,840
Speaker 3: I probably played twenty snaps a game, twenty five snaps

1438
01:10:00,880 --> 01:10:03,720
Speaker 3: a game, and then my third year, my red shirt

1439
01:10:03,760 --> 01:10:07,360
Speaker 3: junior year, I was the starter. Then I started that year,

1440
01:10:07,400 --> 01:10:09,879
Speaker 3: I started one more and I went off into the NFL.

1441
01:10:10,200 --> 01:10:12,479
Speaker 3: But that that red shirt year where I was the

1442
01:10:12,520 --> 01:10:15,479
Speaker 3: scout team trying to get open on a Wednesday practice

1443
01:10:15,520 --> 01:10:20,000
Speaker 3: against Sean Taylor and Antrell Role and Jonathan Wilma and

1444
01:10:20,080 --> 01:10:23,400
Speaker 3: DJ Williams and Vince Wilfork, and that was the defense

1445
01:10:23,439 --> 01:10:27,320
Speaker 3: in two thousand and three, my senior year, Like that

1446
01:10:27,400 --> 01:10:29,640
Speaker 3: was good for me. I mean, my freshman year, that

1447
01:10:29,760 --> 01:10:32,000
Speaker 3: was good for me. Like that was a big part

1448
01:10:32,040 --> 01:10:35,200
Speaker 3: of my development. I could have probably gone to thirty

1449
01:10:35,280 --> 01:10:38,840
Speaker 3: other schools in America and started as a freshman, but

1450
01:10:38,920 --> 01:10:40,720
Speaker 3: I wasn't going to start at Miami. I wasn't going

1451
01:10:40,760 --> 01:10:43,599
Speaker 3: to start at Alabama. I wasn't ready. It was good

1452
01:10:43,680 --> 01:10:46,360
Speaker 3: for me for that stage in my life, at eighteen

1453
01:10:46,479 --> 01:10:48,960
Speaker 3: years old, to have to go be on the scout

1454
01:10:48,960 --> 01:10:52,080
Speaker 3: team and be a grunt for a year, because that

1455
01:10:52,120 --> 01:10:53,960
Speaker 3: was very different than my high school career. But that

1456
01:10:54,000 --> 01:10:55,519
Speaker 3: was good for me, and I think it's good for

1457
01:10:55,560 --> 01:10:58,639
Speaker 3: a lot of these kids to see the real world

1458
01:10:58,640 --> 01:11:00,800
Speaker 3: and not always have to be put on a pedestal

1459
01:11:01,080 --> 01:11:03,599
Speaker 3: and be told since they were twelve years old, you're

1460
01:11:03,640 --> 01:11:06,200
Speaker 3: the greatest player we've ever seen. Our team can't exist

1461
01:11:06,240 --> 01:11:08,599
Speaker 3: without you. And then we wonder why there's a sense

1462
01:11:08,640 --> 01:11:10,280
Speaker 3: of entitlement across the culture.

1463
01:11:11,240 --> 01:11:15,280
Speaker 1: How much is your perspective on the sport change from

1464
01:11:15,320 --> 01:11:18,200
Speaker 1: transitioning to a player to now doing your role of

1465
01:11:18,320 --> 01:11:21,599
Speaker 1: probably forging pretty close relationships with not just head coaches,

1466
01:11:21,640 --> 01:11:24,120
Speaker 1: but coordinators and probably a lot of personnel men around

1467
01:11:24,160 --> 01:11:28,439
Speaker 1: the league to kind of just view football differently from

1468
01:11:28,439 --> 01:11:30,360
Speaker 1: maybe all your years as a player in college and

1469
01:11:30,400 --> 01:11:30,840
Speaker 1: the pros.

1470
01:11:32,160 --> 01:11:34,479
Speaker 3: It's been the coolest part of the process. It's fun

1471
01:11:34,479 --> 01:11:36,680
Speaker 3: as sitting in the stadiums and calling the games and

1472
01:11:36,760 --> 01:11:39,040
Speaker 3: all that. The coolest part of the process is the

1473
01:11:39,080 --> 01:11:44,040
Speaker 3: insight into how a lot of these teams work, just organizationally,

1474
01:11:44,360 --> 01:11:47,559
Speaker 3: both through structure, through communication, through processes, through what they

1475
01:11:47,560 --> 01:11:50,000
Speaker 3: have in place of how they evaluate talent and how

1476
01:11:50,040 --> 01:11:53,120
Speaker 3: they roster construct and how they do the draft. And

1477
01:11:53,439 --> 01:11:54,800
Speaker 3: you know, when you sit down and you talk to

1478
01:11:54,880 --> 01:11:58,160
Speaker 3: general managers in front office personnel and they really give

1479
01:11:58,200 --> 01:12:01,080
Speaker 3: you a clear vision of why we done certain decisions

1480
01:12:01,120 --> 01:12:02,880
Speaker 3: over the last two or three years to get to

1481
01:12:02,920 --> 01:12:07,160
Speaker 3: this point. It's an unbelievable insight and process into how

1482
01:12:07,240 --> 01:12:09,840
Speaker 3: much time and thought is put into why certain teams

1483
01:12:09,840 --> 01:12:11,960
Speaker 3: are really good. And then you talk to other teams

1484
01:12:12,000 --> 01:12:13,400
Speaker 3: and you get off and you're like, these guys have

1485
01:12:13,520 --> 01:12:15,679
Speaker 3: no idea what they're doing, and it's no wonder they're

1486
01:12:15,720 --> 01:12:18,040
Speaker 3: not good. Like there's countless times a year where I

1487
01:12:18,080 --> 01:12:20,320
Speaker 3: hang up off of some coaches conference meeting and I'm like,

1488
01:12:20,880 --> 01:12:23,479
Speaker 3: I get why Sean McVay wins a lot, I get

1489
01:12:23,479 --> 01:12:26,120
Speaker 3: why Kevin O'Connell wins a lot. And there's a million guys.

1490
01:12:26,640 --> 01:12:28,320
Speaker 3: And then you also get off some other calls and

1491
01:12:28,320 --> 01:12:32,200
Speaker 3: you're like, they have no clue, they're making shit up,

1492
01:12:32,280 --> 01:12:35,679
Speaker 3: like they're just and it's amazing at the NFL level,

1493
01:12:35,680 --> 01:12:38,880
Speaker 3: but that's real. So that's the most interesting part. And

1494
01:12:38,920 --> 01:12:42,240
Speaker 3: then from a schematic standpoint, just keeping up to date

1495
01:12:42,320 --> 01:12:46,000
Speaker 3: with the trends and the ebbs and flows of professional football.

1496
01:12:46,000 --> 01:12:48,519
Speaker 3: It's very different than college football. It's very different than

1497
01:12:48,640 --> 01:12:50,880
Speaker 3: NFL football when I first came into the league in

1498
01:12:50,920 --> 01:12:53,640
Speaker 3: two thousand and seven. So staying up on where the

1499
01:12:53,680 --> 01:12:56,719
Speaker 3: game is going, how our defense is constructing fronts, howard

1500
01:12:56,760 --> 01:13:01,240
Speaker 3: defenses constructing coverages. How do rule changes something as simple

1501
01:13:01,280 --> 01:13:04,840
Speaker 3: as the kickoff rule changing where the touchback is. What

1502
01:13:04,880 --> 01:13:07,439
Speaker 3: does that do to fourth down decision makings on the

1503
01:13:07,479 --> 01:13:10,479
Speaker 3: goal line? Like all of those aspects. I don't think

1504
01:13:10,520 --> 01:13:12,439
Speaker 3: when I was a player and I was worried about

1505
01:13:12,439 --> 01:13:15,920
Speaker 3: playing tight end against your defense, I didn't really have

1506
01:13:15,960 --> 01:13:18,200
Speaker 3: to waste my time being concerned with any of that

1507
01:13:18,240 --> 01:13:21,360
Speaker 3: stuff out it was above my pay grade. Now, to

1508
01:13:21,400 --> 01:13:23,960
Speaker 3: be able to be able to wrap your head around

1509
01:13:24,000 --> 01:13:27,800
Speaker 3: the entire picture is really cool.

1510
01:13:29,200 --> 01:13:31,320
Speaker 1: Is there a specific coach that you kind of lean

1511
01:13:31,360 --> 01:13:33,360
Speaker 1: on if you ever have questions throughout the week? Maybe

1512
01:13:33,400 --> 01:13:35,160
Speaker 1: if even if you're not calling his game.

1513
01:13:36,240 --> 01:13:38,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I try. I try not to bother the

1514
01:13:38,760 --> 01:13:41,400
Speaker 3: guys if I'm not calling their game. But there's a

1515
01:13:41,439 --> 01:13:44,040
Speaker 3: handful of guys in the league that I can text

1516
01:13:44,080 --> 01:13:46,760
Speaker 3: them on a Monday or Tuesday and like they'll text

1517
01:13:46,840 --> 01:13:48,840
Speaker 3: you right back. Or you say, hey, coach, when you

1518
01:13:48,880 --> 01:13:50,880
Speaker 3: get a free minute tonight, I wanted to run by something,

1519
01:13:51,479 --> 01:13:54,000
Speaker 3: and it's less to say, like give me the game plan.

1520
01:13:54,080 --> 01:13:56,000
Speaker 3: Like you never want to make the coaches feel like

1521
01:13:56,000 --> 01:13:59,320
Speaker 3: you're trying to like pry for information, but you can

1522
01:13:59,760 --> 01:14:02,439
Speaker 3: just talk philosophically with them and say, hey, coach, tell

1523
01:14:02,479 --> 01:14:06,040
Speaker 3: me if I'm just completely off base here, Like, as

1524
01:14:06,080 --> 01:14:09,080
Speaker 3: I'm watching them, I see your strengths being here there

1525
01:14:09,080 --> 01:14:11,519
Speaker 3: blah blah blah, And more often than not, they're gonna

1526
01:14:11,520 --> 01:14:13,600
Speaker 3: be like, you're spot on. I think a lot of

1527
01:14:13,640 --> 01:14:15,800
Speaker 3: the things that you're talking about. I think you're going

1528
01:14:15,880 --> 01:14:17,880
Speaker 3: to really like our plan this week of what we're doing.

1529
01:14:17,960 --> 01:14:20,400
Speaker 3: And you go, got it, you know what I mean?

1530
01:14:20,439 --> 01:14:22,080
Speaker 3: So you know I could tech you know, guys like

1531
01:14:22,200 --> 01:14:27,760
Speaker 3: dan Quinn and Sirianni and McVeigh, like, these are guys that,

1532
01:14:27,880 --> 01:14:32,719
Speaker 3: like you're texting them like they're genuinely interested in you

1533
01:14:32,720 --> 01:14:34,760
Speaker 3: your prep, they want to know about your kids middle

1534
01:14:34,800 --> 01:14:38,639
Speaker 3: school football game like they're just genuinely really good dudes.

1535
01:14:38,640 --> 01:14:40,439
Speaker 3: And there's a handful of guys that when I jump

1536
01:14:40,479 --> 01:14:43,000
Speaker 3: on the calls with them, zooms like this. The first

1537
01:14:43,000 --> 01:14:45,400
Speaker 3: ten minutes of the call, we're talking middle school football

1538
01:14:45,600 --> 01:14:47,439
Speaker 3: and they're asking me what our new wrinkle of the

1539
01:14:47,479 --> 01:14:49,240
Speaker 3: week is, and they're asking us how the game went

1540
01:14:49,320 --> 01:14:51,439
Speaker 3: and how are we being able to teach double teams?

1541
01:14:51,439 --> 01:14:54,200
Speaker 3: And I'm asking, you know, on the sideline, I'm asking

1542
01:14:54,920 --> 01:14:57,080
Speaker 3: dan quinn, Hey, we're having a hard time getting our

1543
01:14:57,120 --> 01:15:01,479
Speaker 3: defensive linemen to stunt correct correctly on their stunt games,

1544
01:15:01,520 --> 01:15:03,800
Speaker 3: Like what's a good drill? And here he is. He's

1545
01:15:03,840 --> 01:15:06,360
Speaker 3: the defensive coordinator of the Cowboys at the time, and

1546
01:15:06,400 --> 01:15:10,559
Speaker 3: he's demonstrating in pregame. Hey, here's a really good drill

1547
01:15:10,840 --> 01:15:13,120
Speaker 3: for young kids to teach him. Blah blah blah blah blah,

1548
01:15:13,160 --> 01:15:17,719
Speaker 3: Like it's really cool. They genuinely care and more often

1549
01:15:17,720 --> 01:15:19,760
Speaker 3: than not, that's the experience with most of the guys

1550
01:15:19,760 --> 01:15:20,240
Speaker 3: in the league.

1551
01:15:20,560 --> 01:15:22,519
Speaker 1: Okay, I'll get you out of here on this. If

1552
01:15:22,520 --> 01:15:24,360
Speaker 1: I would have told you three or four years ago

1553
01:15:24,439 --> 01:15:26,759
Speaker 1: the tight end you wouldn't just be the biggest offseason

1554
01:15:26,920 --> 01:15:29,960
Speaker 1: NFL event, but it would have been headlined by Taylor Swift.

1555
01:15:30,439 --> 01:15:31,439
Speaker 1: Would you have believed me?

1556
01:15:32,680 --> 01:15:36,080
Speaker 3: No, there's no question. When we started that event in

1557
01:15:36,120 --> 01:15:39,559
Speaker 3: twenty twenty one, just George and I texting initially just hey,

1558
01:15:39,720 --> 01:15:42,400
Speaker 3: congrats you retired. If you're ever down in Nashville, A

1559
01:15:42,439 --> 01:15:44,880
Speaker 3: bunch of young tight ends live down here, we trained together,

1560
01:15:45,160 --> 01:15:47,760
Speaker 3: would love you to come by. From that conversation to

1561
01:15:47,800 --> 01:15:52,559
Speaker 3: getting Travis involved to where it's grown five years later

1562
01:15:52,680 --> 01:15:56,400
Speaker 3: is pretty remarkable. I think it's a testament to the position.

1563
01:15:56,600 --> 01:15:58,519
Speaker 3: I think it's a testament to the type of guy

1564
01:15:58,560 --> 01:16:02,120
Speaker 3: who plays the position where there's enough pizzazz and fun

1565
01:16:02,200 --> 01:16:05,000
Speaker 3: and excitement that makes the position. There's enough to talk about.

1566
01:16:05,120 --> 01:16:10,400
Speaker 3: They're athletic, they're tough, but it's really just their mindset.

1567
01:16:10,439 --> 01:16:12,560
Speaker 3: They're hungry, they want to learn. You got Kittle and

1568
01:16:12,840 --> 01:16:16,280
Speaker 3: Kelsey in the hundred Degrees, and you know, between mini

1569
01:16:16,280 --> 01:16:18,960
Speaker 3: camp and training camp, they could be anywhere in the world,

1570
01:16:19,080 --> 01:16:22,000
Speaker 3: and they're in Nashville and one hundred degrees, fully cleaned

1571
01:16:22,120 --> 01:16:25,400
Speaker 3: up on the field, running full speed routes with guys

1572
01:16:25,400 --> 01:16:28,840
Speaker 3: who've never played a snap in the league and are

1573
01:16:28,920 --> 01:16:32,759
Speaker 3: just taking it all in like that's the special nature

1574
01:16:32,920 --> 01:16:35,760
Speaker 3: of the event and the position, and that's why it

1575
01:16:35,800 --> 01:16:36,320
Speaker 3: all works.

1576
01:16:36,960 --> 01:16:39,080
Speaker 1: I remember running to Kelsey maybe a year or two

1577
01:16:39,160 --> 01:16:43,360
Speaker 1: before he started dating Taylor out here in Scottsdale at

1578
01:16:43,360 --> 01:16:45,600
Speaker 1: the golf course, and I know Andy and Veech, so

1579
01:16:45,680 --> 01:16:47,559
Speaker 1: I go up to him and he couldn't wait to

1580
01:16:47,600 --> 01:16:49,400
Speaker 1: get back to O TA. So we're starting a couple

1581
01:16:49,400 --> 01:16:51,120
Speaker 1: of weeks, and I think that gets lost sometimes now

1582
01:16:51,200 --> 01:16:54,160
Speaker 1: and it started. I'm like that guy, George. It's easy

1583
01:16:54,200 --> 01:16:57,560
Speaker 1: to see, but Travis is a football junkie.

1584
01:16:58,160 --> 01:17:00,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, and they all are. There's no good play that

1585
01:17:00,400 --> 01:17:03,160
Speaker 3: I've ever been around, or played with or played against

1586
01:17:03,800 --> 01:17:07,040
Speaker 3: that didn't wake up every single day fully consumed with

1587
01:17:07,120 --> 01:17:10,320
Speaker 3: the craft of improvement and the craft of their position,

1588
01:17:10,439 --> 01:17:13,200
Speaker 3: the game, the sport, you know, develop any of that.

1589
01:17:13,360 --> 01:17:16,320
Speaker 3: And we try to drill this into our young middle

1590
01:17:16,320 --> 01:17:18,559
Speaker 3: school kids. They're in seventh to eighth grade. I say, guys,

1591
01:17:18,800 --> 01:17:23,080
Speaker 3: the path of development and the art of learning. The

1592
01:17:23,160 --> 01:17:26,000
Speaker 3: day it ends is the day you stop playing. If

1593
01:17:26,000 --> 01:17:28,600
Speaker 3: it ends anytime before that, you will never maximize. I

1594
01:17:28,600 --> 01:17:31,280
Speaker 3: don't care how good you are now. The idea of

1595
01:17:32,080 --> 01:17:37,439
Speaker 3: perpetual improvement in time, in forever, that's the goal. And

1596
01:17:37,479 --> 01:17:39,880
Speaker 3: that's why guys like that have gotten better as their

1597
01:17:39,880 --> 01:17:43,559
Speaker 3: careers have gotten longer, they've gotten better, they've gotten older. Like,

1598
01:17:43,880 --> 01:17:46,639
Speaker 3: that's not a mistake. You can't have your best season

1599
01:17:46,680 --> 01:17:49,639
Speaker 3: in your five. If your best year is in year five,

1600
01:17:49,680 --> 01:17:52,439
Speaker 3: you're probably going to play seven. If your best year

1601
01:17:52,479 --> 01:17:55,719
Speaker 3: is in year ten, you'll probably play fourteen. Like that's

1602
01:17:55,800 --> 01:17:58,120
Speaker 3: kind of how it all works. And the guys who

1603
01:17:58,240 --> 01:18:00,880
Speaker 3: get that, and the guys who never give up on

1604
01:18:00,960 --> 01:18:03,719
Speaker 3: that quest for improvement, no matter how many pro balls

1605
01:18:03,760 --> 01:18:05,880
Speaker 3: I've made, it's about the next one. No matter how

1606
01:18:05,960 --> 01:18:08,599
Speaker 3: much money I make or how many contracts I want,

1607
01:18:08,600 --> 01:18:12,240
Speaker 3: the next one, like it never stops until you literally

1608
01:18:12,320 --> 01:18:14,760
Speaker 3: just can't physically do it anymore. And those days come

1609
01:18:14,800 --> 01:18:17,840
Speaker 3: for everybody, but man, the guys that live it, eat it,

1610
01:18:17,880 --> 01:18:21,920
Speaker 3: and breathe it. It's amazing how their days, their days

1611
01:18:22,240 --> 01:18:23,519
Speaker 3: take a little longer to get here.

1612
01:18:24,280 --> 01:18:26,200
Speaker 1: Well, Greg, I appreciate all the time. And you're probably

1613
01:18:26,200 --> 01:18:27,519
Speaker 1: gonna have to get on the whole now with like

1614
01:18:27,560 --> 01:18:29,599
Speaker 1: Doctor Dre or the Rolling Stones to try to top

1615
01:18:29,640 --> 01:18:33,479
Speaker 1: this year. So congrats on everything, and do you think

1616
01:18:33,520 --> 01:18:36,000
Speaker 1: thing that's awesome man, And hopefully you guys have a

1617
01:18:36,040 --> 01:18:39,240
Speaker 1: big season on the football. You said undefeated, so I'm

1618
01:18:39,280 --> 01:18:39,880
Speaker 1: gonna be checking this.

1619
01:18:40,160 --> 01:18:43,160
Speaker 3: Try put a target on our back. We'll see see you, Greg,

1620
01:18:43,640 --> 01:18:44,360
Speaker 3: I appreciate it.

1621
01:18:47,840 --> 01:18:48,479
Speaker 1: The volume