1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:03,000 Speaker 1: Tenham is under center against the five man front, hits Tavon, 2 00:00:03,240 --> 00:00:05,240 Speaker 1: the fifteen of the team, even each side five on 3 00:00:05,400 --> 00:00:11,560 Speaker 1: his feet on the Jo touchdown Von Austin, Ralph all 4 00:00:11,600 --> 00:00:17,400 Speaker 1: but catch them. Touchdown. Keenum gives the girl up the middle. 5 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:19,920 Speaker 1: He's got a first down, one sheet, full goal line, 6 00:00:20,680 --> 00:00:25,560 Speaker 1: he said, touchdown, curling on the end of run. She 7 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:32,280 Speaker 1: gets to twenty fifteen to five touchdown Von Austin. Let's 8 00:00:32,280 --> 00:00:36,800 Speaker 1: your case, Keenum, freak flag fly. If that was the 9 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:39,960 Speaker 1: final Rams game in St. Louis history, a thirty one 10 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:43,800 Speaker 1: to twenty three victory, then it was basically the best 11 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:47,920 Speaker 1: game Chris Westling could hope for. Case Keenum only three incompletions, 12 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:51,199 Speaker 1: two touchdowns and his other boy, Tavon Austin with a 13 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:54,920 Speaker 1: couple of touchdowns. Rams win thirty one twenty three. The 14 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:57,920 Speaker 1: Bucks and the Rams are both six and eight. Mostly 15 00:00:57,920 --> 00:01:02,279 Speaker 1: a forgettable game. West What what was your big takeaway? 16 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:06,400 Speaker 1: I think I think the Rams building blocks that Aaron Donald, 17 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:09,880 Speaker 1: Tavon Austin, and Todd Gurley are a good, good place 18 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:11,880 Speaker 1: to build. That would be the biggest takeaway. And then 19 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:15,280 Speaker 1: the other one would be Tampa Bay's playoff hopes or done. Yeah, 20 00:01:15,319 --> 00:01:17,280 Speaker 1: they're done. Both teams are at six and eight. And 21 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:19,440 Speaker 1: of course, by the way, this is Greg rosenthalm here 22 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 1: with Chris Westling and we're gonna get to Dan Hansis, 23 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:25,839 Speaker 1: Mark Sessler, Lindsay Rhodes to preview all the week fifteen 24 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:30,880 Speaker 1: games very shortly. I I was more taken with, uh, 25 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:33,400 Speaker 1: the images at the end of the game, where the 26 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:36,760 Speaker 1: fans are chanting save the Rams, Save the Rams. And 27 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 1: I don't think there was the emotion that there's gonna 28 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:42,880 Speaker 1: be Sunday in San Diego, for instance, by all by 29 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 1: all accounts, Uh, it's very up in the air whether 30 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:48,040 Speaker 1: the Rams will move. I think at this point it 31 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:50,600 Speaker 1: might be a surprise if they are moving for next year. 32 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 1: But it was just a weird scene. Not a huge 33 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:56,560 Speaker 1: crowd there, but some fans chanting, you know, save the Rams. 34 00:01:56,600 --> 00:02:00,360 Speaker 1: Some other fans at points, you know, chanting disparaging comments 35 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:03,440 Speaker 1: about the team owner, and just the general lack of 36 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 1: excitement because this is a typical Rams type of game. 37 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:10,840 Speaker 1: When they look really good, it doesn't matter every you know, 38 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 1: even the good wins and the Jeff Fisher era come 39 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:16,680 Speaker 1: with an asterisk because they're not going anywhere. They're going 40 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:20,399 Speaker 1: to get to seven wins, which is you always joke 41 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:22,080 Speaker 1: about it, and here they are at six and eight. 42 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:24,200 Speaker 1: They're probably gonna get to seven wins if they can 43 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:26,680 Speaker 1: beat the forty niners in week seventeen. It's the same 44 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:29,519 Speaker 1: Rams team we've seen all along the drive for seven 45 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:33,079 Speaker 1: and nine. This was the best game by far any 46 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 1: quarterback has played for the Rams all year. It's true. 47 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 1: And he barely threw the ball after half time, but 48 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:39,520 Speaker 1: he didn't because that's what the Rams do. They put 49 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:42,040 Speaker 1: it in their pocket and then try to hope the 50 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 1: other team doesn't come back. And there's a run talk 51 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:46,880 Speaker 1: girly into the line three straight times, and they almost 52 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:49,760 Speaker 1: did blow it. They only win by eight after having 53 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:53,079 Speaker 1: a twenty one to three lead at halftime. Bucks had 54 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:56,880 Speaker 1: double the first downs and they have five nine yards 55 00:02:56,880 --> 00:03:00,520 Speaker 1: to the Rams. Again, a lot of that is game momentum, 56 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:03,120 Speaker 1: the Rams letting the Bucks back into the game after 57 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:05,799 Speaker 1: they had established a big lead. Yeah, the score took 58 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:07,640 Speaker 1: Doug Martin out of the game and he was, you know, 59 00:03:07,720 --> 00:03:11,239 Speaker 1: looking great early. I don't think this game helped Jamis 60 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:13,520 Speaker 1: Winston's Rookie of the Year candidacy, even though he ends 61 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:16,240 Speaker 1: up with big numbers. Wasn't one of his stronger games. 62 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:20,120 Speaker 1: Greg Williams confused him early, was inaccurate, didn't just wasn't 63 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:22,400 Speaker 1: one of his best games. Also pulled off some nice throws, 64 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:24,880 Speaker 1: which he tends to do every week. I don't I 65 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:27,600 Speaker 1: don't think it hurts Aaron Donald's Defensive Player of the 66 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 1: Year chances, though he was very disruptive early. Yeah, you 67 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:33,079 Speaker 1: see him throwing guys like six time Pro Bowl guard 68 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:36,120 Speaker 1: Logan Mankins around the scrimmage. And he wasn't the only 69 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 1: offensive lineman that got thrown around by Aaron Donald. Yeah, 70 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:41,360 Speaker 1: Aaron Donald looked great and Austin's really been a factor 71 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 1: all year. He has a chance to win you a sandwich, 72 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:46,440 Speaker 1: I believe if he gets to a thousand yards uh 73 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:48,840 Speaker 1: from scrimmage. So that that's all the excitement that's really 74 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:51,200 Speaker 1: left with this Ram season and the Bucks, who have 75 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:53,840 Speaker 1: been frisky and I never thought they were a playoff 76 00:03:53,880 --> 00:03:56,160 Speaker 1: type of team. Anyways, They're probably gonna get to about 77 00:03:56,200 --> 00:04:00,280 Speaker 1: seven wins and that's big progress for them. But that's 78 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 1: enough on the Rams and the Bucks. Let's start talking 79 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 1: about some of the teams that are in the playoff mix. 80 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:07,360 Speaker 1: And to do that, let's send it over to Dan 81 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 1: Hansas the Around the NFL podcast give zero about the 82 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:18,719 Speaker 1: new Star Wars. Welcome back to another edition of the 83 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:21,440 Speaker 1: Around the NFL Podcast. My name is Dan Hansas, and 84 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 1: I am joined by a room filled with heroes. Mark Sesler, 85 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:30,320 Speaker 1: Chris Westling, and Greg Rosenthal. What's up? Boys? Totally inaccurate, 86 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:33,320 Speaker 1: by the way, because I know I got one Star 87 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:36,280 Speaker 1: Wars fanboy in the midst right now. Who is gonna 88 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:40,600 Speaker 1: be at a Friday morning show bo Star Wars The 89 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 1: Force Awakens or whatever it's called. Mark will be what 90 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:48,760 Speaker 1: is it called. You're right, but oh tad dismissive, So 91 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 1: you'll be there. The rest of us will not. I 92 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:53,640 Speaker 1: told you, we talked about it. I don't like hate 93 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:55,600 Speaker 1: Star Wars, and I'll probably go if you give it 94 00:04:55,640 --> 00:04:57,720 Speaker 1: a really good review kind of hate. He sent out 95 00:04:57,720 --> 00:04:59,920 Speaker 1: a tweet today making fun of it. Well, I'm going 96 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 1: of the theater this weekend. I'm going to see Spotlight, 97 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:05,280 Speaker 1: the doc you drama around the Boston Globe uncovering the 98 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:08,080 Speaker 1: sexual abuse in the Catholic church in Boston. No, I'm 99 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:11,599 Speaker 1: excited to see that too. I tried to keep why 100 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:13,560 Speaker 1: why did they get to call it a doc you drama. 101 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:16,240 Speaker 1: If it's just a drama, really, I don't know. But 102 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:20,360 Speaker 1: Star Wars mark us, you are excited. Tell us why 103 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:22,080 Speaker 1: you're so excited to go to see Star I think 104 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:24,640 Speaker 1: I've unpacked this before, and I don't know what sort 105 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:27,599 Speaker 1: of childhood's you guys lived. But like I, the first 106 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:29,520 Speaker 1: movie I ever went to was Star Wars with my 107 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:31,919 Speaker 1: dad in England. I said, I actually remember being in 108 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:35,120 Speaker 1: the theater with him and understanding most of what was 109 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 1: going on in my own little mind. But I was 110 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:40,600 Speaker 1: at the perfect age for for me. It all came 111 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:43,440 Speaker 1: at the right time, and I I don't sit around 112 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:45,680 Speaker 1: thinking about it now all the time. One of the 113 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 1: reasons I want to go see it tomorrow is because 114 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:49,960 Speaker 1: I just don't want to deal with the spoilers and 115 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:52,159 Speaker 1: having it all like kind of ruined if I wait 116 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:54,120 Speaker 1: two weeks and I'm listening to a bunch of people 117 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:59,120 Speaker 1: in the newsroom assumed culture in the sense that you 118 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:01,240 Speaker 1: could feel because they're lot of Star Wars fans in 119 00:06:01,279 --> 00:06:03,720 Speaker 1: our newsroom, and you can actually feel the buzz in 120 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:06,240 Speaker 1: the air, like there are people that are counting down 121 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 1: the hours to see this movie. A lot of them 122 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:12,200 Speaker 1: at midnight tonight. You're right. I mean, you shouldn't feel defensive. 123 00:06:12,320 --> 00:06:15,200 Speaker 1: You are. You are part of the norm down in 124 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:17,880 Speaker 1: the news room. I I often think because because I 125 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:21,919 Speaker 1: turning me into like just an average you're you're just 126 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:25,200 Speaker 1: a corporate robot. Uh. I often think like, that's one 127 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 1: of the things I've learned. I never worked in an 128 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:29,640 Speaker 1: office until this job on a daily basis, and I 129 00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 1: feel more in touch with with the common people. It 130 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:36,760 Speaker 1: was important that you got all Greg suddenly mingling with it. 131 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:39,119 Speaker 1: Was saying, I know what like the water cooler talking, 132 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 1: but you have like you guys agree Weston and Mark 133 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:43,520 Speaker 1: that it was good for Greg to get into an 134 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:45,880 Speaker 1: office sudden and start talking to humans that are different. 135 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 1: That was good. It was. I think it's been good 136 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:51,520 Speaker 1: for you. You agree, right, I don't know. I think 137 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:53,240 Speaker 1: it's a journey and you're you're in the middle of that. 138 00:06:55,800 --> 00:06:58,120 Speaker 1: All right, Let's we got a lot to get to today. 139 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:02,480 Speaker 1: Of course, it's our Thursday Week fifteen preview show. At 140 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:05,560 Speaker 1: the top of the of this podcast, you heard from 141 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:09,240 Speaker 1: Greg and west who broke down the Thursday night game 142 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:11,640 Speaker 1: between the Rams and Bucks, and now it is our 143 00:07:11,760 --> 00:07:14,400 Speaker 1: job to break down the rest of the games that 144 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:22,080 Speaker 1: will feature teams fifteen games. One played Monday, what about 145 00:07:22,120 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 1: Saturday and one? So there you go. Thank you for that. 146 00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:31,120 Speaker 1: Greg's might, checks and balances. I'm still getting over the 147 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:33,360 Speaker 1: fact that Greg said he's gonna come down and hang 148 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:36,640 Speaker 1: out with the common people. I mean, that's a little bit. 149 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:39,680 Speaker 1: There was a nod to the old common man rankings, 150 00:07:39,680 --> 00:07:44,240 Speaker 1: which you know I've been struggling with lately. Um, it 151 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:46,680 Speaker 1: was vitally important that Greg got into an office setting. 152 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:49,880 Speaker 1: This is this has been really good for you. I'm 153 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:51,400 Speaker 1: sure if I talk to your wife. I'm gonna talk 154 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:53,640 Speaker 1: to your wife this weekend. I'm gonna ask her. He 155 00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:55,800 Speaker 1: thinks there's been a difference now that you're around all 156 00:07:55,840 --> 00:07:58,160 Speaker 1: these people. Usually you've been able to pick and choose 157 00:07:58,160 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 1: who you want to see in your life and be around. 158 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:01,520 Speaker 1: And now you're like the rest of us that you 159 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 1: just deal with society and humans all around. Lived in 160 00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 1: New York. There's humans everywhere, but you could pick, like 161 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:11,200 Speaker 1: New York already city, but New York you could pick 162 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 1: your experience exactly how you want to live in. That 163 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:18,280 Speaker 1: sounds like a fun idea. Yeah, we shall, We'll talk 164 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:22,640 Speaker 1: about it, all right, let's uh, let's get into the games. UH. 165 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:25,200 Speaker 1: And we'll start with that Saturday night game. And I'll 166 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:28,000 Speaker 1: tell you what, Uh, the old Zeusa is excited whenever 167 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:30,080 Speaker 1: you get to watch a game at home, kick back 168 00:08:30,080 --> 00:08:33,160 Speaker 1: with a little Tito's and Grapefruit Greyhound as it's known, 169 00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:36,840 Speaker 1: and watch the New York Jets play primetime football against 170 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:41,160 Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys. Uh. The Jets huge huge implications for 171 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:44,480 Speaker 1: their chances of playing a playoff football. They're eight and five, 172 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:46,240 Speaker 1: which you would think a team that's eight and five 173 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:49,760 Speaker 1: is in really good position uh to uh to go 174 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:52,679 Speaker 1: to the postseason. But the Jets have no margin forever. 175 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 1: The way it's shaking out right now, with the Steelers 176 00:08:54,760 --> 00:08:58,240 Speaker 1: and Chiefs both playing great football and owning all the tiebreakers, 177 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:01,360 Speaker 1: the Jets would be the odd team out. UM. A 178 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:03,760 Speaker 1: loss of the Cowboys would be devastating. So the Jets 179 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:06,080 Speaker 1: need this game. There's no way this team should be 180 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:09,920 Speaker 1: flat or taking the Cowboys lightly. They can't afford. They 181 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:12,800 Speaker 1: can't afford to do that. Dallas, on the other hand, 182 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:16,560 Speaker 1: Mark does not look like a good football team. UH. 183 00:09:16,559 --> 00:09:19,240 Speaker 1: And the Jets are healthy and they're playing well right now, 184 00:09:19,280 --> 00:09:21,400 Speaker 1: three straight wins. The Jets are gonna take care of 185 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:23,360 Speaker 1: business right I think they are. I think that the 186 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:26,760 Speaker 1: thing about this Jets team is they've been well coached, 187 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:29,600 Speaker 1: in my opinion, under Todd Bowles. And I look at 188 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:33,160 Speaker 1: this matchup and I think that the feeling with the 189 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:35,840 Speaker 1: Cowboys where or without Romo, was like they're gonna come 190 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:38,240 Speaker 1: around at some point all season. And it's not just 191 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:41,320 Speaker 1: Tony Romo. They're just outside of their pass rush. I'd 192 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:44,640 Speaker 1: compare them in the Jets and ask what do what 193 00:09:44,760 --> 00:09:47,320 Speaker 1: does Dallas do better than New York right now? I 194 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:51,600 Speaker 1: think the Jets are not a outstanding, le remarkable team, 195 00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:54,760 Speaker 1: but they are very much in the mix as an 196 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:56,679 Speaker 1: a f C wild card team and they deserved it, 197 00:09:56,920 --> 00:09:59,040 Speaker 1: and I would be surprised if they don't get the 198 00:09:59,080 --> 00:10:00,800 Speaker 1: job done on Saturday. I think it would be very 199 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:04,560 Speaker 1: disappointing if they don't win convincingly. I'd look for a 200 00:10:04,559 --> 00:10:07,320 Speaker 1: big game from Chris Ivory after watching the Packers run 201 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:10,720 Speaker 1: for more yards I believe since two thousand and eight, 202 00:10:10,760 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 1: two aren't thirty yards. But I think that's a function 203 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:17,000 Speaker 1: of the Cowboys offense, and that's the problem. The Cowboys 204 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:19,400 Speaker 1: offense and especially there passing game. Is so bad it 205 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:21,240 Speaker 1: gives them no chance to win. I was I thought 206 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:23,559 Speaker 1: that game was very similar to the Patriots Cowboys game, 207 00:10:23,679 --> 00:10:26,320 Speaker 1: where the Cowboys defense. I think if you gave them 208 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:29,160 Speaker 1: a halfway decent offense, they are they could be a 209 00:10:29,240 --> 00:10:32,199 Speaker 1: top ten defense. But they hold up for two and 210 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:35,120 Speaker 1: a half three quarters and then eventually the damn just 211 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:37,240 Speaker 1: breaks me. How many stops can you get? I think 212 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:39,560 Speaker 1: it's a pretty good defense over the last month, but 213 00:10:39,920 --> 00:10:41,880 Speaker 1: it's not good enough that it's just gonna win games 214 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:43,480 Speaker 1: on its own. So I agree, I think the Jets 215 00:10:43,520 --> 00:10:46,040 Speaker 1: should take care of business pretty easily. I don't like 216 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:48,560 Speaker 1: this too much confidence, but you know, but Dan, that's 217 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:51,560 Speaker 1: because you're you are. You know, you root for a 218 00:10:51,600 --> 00:10:54,840 Speaker 1: team that's historically had more downs than ups. This is 219 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:57,240 Speaker 1: the game hard to grasp. Yeah, the thing that you 220 00:10:57,280 --> 00:10:59,000 Speaker 1: get excited about is the Jets fan is that they're 221 00:10:59,040 --> 00:11:02,640 Speaker 1: getting stronger as the season goes along. And Fitzpatrick in particular, 222 00:11:02,679 --> 00:11:04,720 Speaker 1: I still have to check out where Greg has him 223 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:07,320 Speaker 1: in his QB index this week. Big bump? Uh? Is 224 00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:12,160 Speaker 1: it a big bump your politicking? Definitely? But as a 225 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:14,319 Speaker 1: Jets van and any Jets van listening to this podcast, 226 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:16,920 Speaker 1: knows exactly what I'm talking about. They've lost this game 227 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 1: a hundred times in the past when they've been in 228 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:22,080 Speaker 1: good position. The Jets are are are kings of the 229 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:24,920 Speaker 1: December flame out. So let's see if they can keep 230 00:11:24,920 --> 00:11:27,040 Speaker 1: it up. Win four in a row. And we all 231 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:29,200 Speaker 1: picked the Jets to win the game. So let's see 232 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:31,520 Speaker 1: if they take care of business. Do not let me down. 233 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:34,880 Speaker 1: It's magic. Also, don't let me down because I've been 234 00:11:34,880 --> 00:11:38,319 Speaker 1: pumping you up for Greg. I got you. I got 235 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:39,760 Speaker 1: you all the way up on the QB index. Where 236 00:11:39,800 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 1: is he fifteen? That's exactly where he's That is a 237 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:46,160 Speaker 1: perfect spot, greg uh right. They just didn't want to 238 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:51,160 Speaker 1: deal with the fallout of putting him. That is, that's true. 239 00:11:51,200 --> 00:11:53,719 Speaker 1: But he's played great the last three weeks. Part part 240 00:11:53,760 --> 00:11:55,360 Speaker 1: of it is he's just not a big time hotst. 241 00:11:55,559 --> 00:11:59,880 Speaker 1: Part of it is that I'm annoying. And that's good, Okay, good? Yes, 242 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:02,760 Speaker 1: the as dead hands, as my mother has always told me, 243 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:06,520 Speaker 1: the greasy wheel, you know, or the rusty wheel, Well, 244 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:13,880 Speaker 1: she always told you, squeaky wheel gets the grease. That 245 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:17,040 Speaker 1: lesson was passed down in pristine fashion. My poor son 246 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:20,520 Speaker 1: is gonna get a really butchered version of that. Let's 247 00:12:20,520 --> 00:12:23,400 Speaker 1: move on now. Let's talk a little bit about the 248 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:26,520 Speaker 1: Kansas City Chiefs, the other team along with the Jets 249 00:12:26,559 --> 00:12:29,320 Speaker 1: and Steelers fighting for the wild card spot. They have 250 00:12:29,520 --> 00:12:32,400 Speaker 1: won seven games in a row. Guys, and now they 251 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:36,360 Speaker 1: go uh to Baltimore to face a beat up Ravens team. 252 00:12:36,679 --> 00:12:39,760 Speaker 1: Uh Matt shob Is he the quarterback this week for 253 00:12:39,840 --> 00:12:43,200 Speaker 1: the Ravens. I'd lose track of these things. Is he's 254 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:47,000 Speaker 1: out full practice on third? Okay, so he should be 255 00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:49,600 Speaker 1: playing if he's practicing and full. They do have Ryan Mallett, 256 00:12:49,640 --> 00:12:51,640 Speaker 1: they who they signed this week. Don't think you'll see 257 00:12:51,679 --> 00:12:54,240 Speaker 1: Ryan moult this week, but don't be surprised if he 258 00:12:54,280 --> 00:12:57,280 Speaker 1: gets some rips before the end of the season. Justin 259 00:12:57,320 --> 00:12:59,760 Speaker 1: Houston of the Chiefs, by the way, hyper extended knee, 260 00:12:59,760 --> 00:13:03,440 Speaker 1: went to see Dr James Andrews. Uh, there's no terror anything, 261 00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:06,480 Speaker 1: but he still seems to be a week to week proposition. UH. 262 00:13:06,559 --> 00:13:08,320 Speaker 1: West will start with you on this. When the Chiefs 263 00:13:08,320 --> 00:13:11,360 Speaker 1: playing great, great football, they stubbed their toe against the 264 00:13:11,400 --> 00:13:14,640 Speaker 1: Ravens and leave the door open. I just can't see it. 265 00:13:14,679 --> 00:13:17,720 Speaker 1: I don't When you watch the Ravens play, you're it's 266 00:13:17,760 --> 00:13:20,199 Speaker 1: just a it's a team that has so many holes 267 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:23,360 Speaker 1: because they're like the Chargers. They just lost so many 268 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:26,520 Speaker 1: players for the season. And who moved the ball on 269 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:29,960 Speaker 1: that offense. I just don't see it happen. Jimmy Clawson, 270 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:32,520 Speaker 1: it sounds like has a good chance to start, and 271 00:13:32,559 --> 00:13:35,520 Speaker 1: I would think he earned himself another start. I thought 272 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:37,959 Speaker 1: he played pretty well against Seattle. It was one of 273 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:40,000 Speaker 1: the more surprising things I saw when I watched the 274 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:41,400 Speaker 1: games this week was him. I think he had a 275 00:13:41,440 --> 00:13:43,160 Speaker 1: hundred and seventy eight yards in the first half of 276 00:13:43,160 --> 00:13:47,360 Speaker 1: that game, including about four or five chunk plays yards 277 00:13:47,400 --> 00:13:49,720 Speaker 1: down the field. He wasn't afraid to throw it. He's 278 00:13:49,760 --> 00:13:53,600 Speaker 1: comfortable and Trustman's offense, and shob isn't a hundred percent. 279 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:55,360 Speaker 1: I don't think it matters. I think the Chiefs are 280 00:13:55,400 --> 00:13:58,640 Speaker 1: gonna win. That's how I am. I talking about class 281 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:00,600 Speaker 1: and yeah, that's how bad he is. He didn't engineer 282 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:02,480 Speaker 1: a single touchdown drive and you still think he had 283 00:14:02,520 --> 00:14:04,400 Speaker 1: a good game. If we did dropped one one in 284 00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:06,840 Speaker 1: the end zone and a couple of things went against them, 285 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:09,000 Speaker 1: they also had eleven. That loss was not on him. 286 00:14:09,080 --> 00:14:12,040 Speaker 1: He also did not do much to help them if 287 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:14,640 Speaker 1: we had some type of award show at the end 288 00:14:14,679 --> 00:14:16,520 Speaker 1: of the season, which maybe we would. Who knows, but 289 00:14:17,280 --> 00:14:20,440 Speaker 1: chunk plays, which is really gaining some steam as a 290 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:23,120 Speaker 1: football jargon and the mainstream is one of my favorite 291 00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:26,760 Speaker 1: I think my favorite. Really i'm a buzz term. You 292 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:28,960 Speaker 1: don't like it, Well, it's been out there for a while, 293 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:32,040 Speaker 1: and it's it starts to grade on me. And well, 294 00:14:32,080 --> 00:14:36,400 Speaker 1: there's there's a term every year in the NFL narrative. 295 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:38,840 Speaker 1: A couple of years ago, one year it was pay dirt. 296 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:43,280 Speaker 1: Everyone kept saying pay it's my favorite award on this Yeah, 297 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:47,720 Speaker 1: it's my favorite award on the Checky Awards, which people 298 00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:49,640 Speaker 1: should check out? Is it? He always has, like the 299 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:53,000 Speaker 1: jargon of the year is I don't know, I'll have 300 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:55,520 Speaker 1: to talk. Chunk play is a big Greg Cosell term, 301 00:14:55,560 --> 00:14:57,760 Speaker 1: going back to his podcast, is it's gaining pop though 302 00:14:57,760 --> 00:14:59,400 Speaker 1: it's getting big pop this year. You know who doesn't 303 00:14:59,400 --> 00:15:02,400 Speaker 1: get chunk but he's Alex Smith. That's a bit of 304 00:15:02,400 --> 00:15:04,440 Speaker 1: a shot, but all right, Yeah, but we all picked 305 00:15:04,440 --> 00:15:07,280 Speaker 1: the Chiefs to win the game, and uh win moved 306 00:15:07,280 --> 00:15:09,600 Speaker 1: to nine and five. Chiefs keep rolling, that's what we 307 00:15:09,680 --> 00:15:14,320 Speaker 1: think anyway, Moving forward the Houston Texans. Uh they are 308 00:15:14,360 --> 00:15:17,440 Speaker 1: tied atop the a f C South at six and seven. 309 00:15:17,520 --> 00:15:20,840 Speaker 1: Go figure. Now they travel to Indianapolis to play the 310 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:22,600 Speaker 1: other team at six and seven in the a f 311 00:15:22,680 --> 00:15:27,320 Speaker 1: C South, the Indianapolis Cults. Speaking of quarterback trouble, we 312 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:31,200 Speaker 1: have Matt Hasselbeck who has a rib injury. He practiced 313 00:15:31,280 --> 00:15:35,360 Speaker 1: in a limited fashion on Thursday, so we might see him. 314 00:15:35,400 --> 00:15:37,120 Speaker 1: You think he'll probably play if he's back on the 315 00:15:37,160 --> 00:15:41,000 Speaker 1: field working. Uh. So this is a game between uh, 316 00:15:41,040 --> 00:15:44,880 Speaker 1: you know, bad quarterbacks or old quarterbacks, and there's no 317 00:15:44,920 --> 00:15:46,840 Speaker 1: way to really pick a favorite, Greg, I mean, who 318 00:15:46,840 --> 00:15:50,760 Speaker 1: knows between these two teams. The Texans have done more 319 00:15:51,480 --> 00:15:55,160 Speaker 1: recently that would get you somewhat excited about them, But 320 00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:57,520 Speaker 1: then again, they're coming coming off two games where their 321 00:15:57,560 --> 00:16:00,480 Speaker 1: defense didn't really show up, So there's nothing to like 322 00:16:00,560 --> 00:16:02,120 Speaker 1: about this game. West and I were here on a 323 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:06,000 Speaker 1: Thursday night. It was one of the more sneaky, entertaining 324 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:08,600 Speaker 1: games of the year, but largely that was because of 325 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:12,280 Speaker 1: Ryan Mout's sideline facial expressions. And that's not really going 326 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:15,080 Speaker 1: to happen this week. That's my It would be crazy 327 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:17,400 Speaker 1: if it did. If you just showed up. Hasselbeck said 328 00:16:17,400 --> 00:16:20,200 Speaker 1: he's still having trouble breathing, which is in pretty important 329 00:16:20,200 --> 00:16:26,000 Speaker 1: function for a quarterback, so or really any human. Moncrief 330 00:16:26,320 --> 00:16:29,480 Speaker 1: is uh injured right now. For the Colts, that that 331 00:16:29,640 --> 00:16:32,760 Speaker 1: second half that was eye opening against the Jaguars just 332 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:35,800 Speaker 1: it started to feel like the roof is just caving in. 333 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:38,280 Speaker 1: West has been calling this a bad, bad team all year, 334 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:41,080 Speaker 1: and I think they've at least fought for Pagano. They 335 00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:43,120 Speaker 1: had a lot of comebacks, and now I don't even 336 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:45,160 Speaker 1: know if they're fighting. I like the Texans a little more. 337 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:48,040 Speaker 1: West is right, they are a bad team, and I 338 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:50,800 Speaker 1: am openly rooting for both of these teams to implode 339 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:55,920 Speaker 1: and have the Jacksonville Jaguars win this division because to tie, 340 00:16:55,920 --> 00:16:57,680 Speaker 1: though in this game, the problem is one of them 341 00:16:57,680 --> 00:16:59,480 Speaker 1: wins it and they get to seven wins. That means 342 00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:02,680 Speaker 1: the jag Ours probably have to win out to get in. 343 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:05,000 Speaker 1: Don't assume they would, but well, we can get to 344 00:17:05,040 --> 00:17:08,040 Speaker 1: the Jaguars. We can get to Jaguars. Their schedules doable 345 00:17:08,119 --> 00:17:09,639 Speaker 1: to win out if they play the way they have, 346 00:17:10,040 --> 00:17:11,840 Speaker 1: And I just I think that you know, the Texans, 347 00:17:11,880 --> 00:17:13,800 Speaker 1: what we saw with their defense was very promising a 348 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:16,000 Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago, but they're not a consistent team. 349 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:18,159 Speaker 1: You're not gonna get that all year long. And you 350 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:19,760 Speaker 1: know what. You go in and you lay an egg 351 00:17:19,920 --> 00:17:23,119 Speaker 1: so badly to New England. Your entire coaching staff in 352 00:17:23,160 --> 00:17:25,760 Speaker 1: your quarterback all come from the New England system, and 353 00:17:25,800 --> 00:17:27,840 Speaker 1: you don't show up in a big spot. Get out 354 00:17:27,840 --> 00:17:31,560 Speaker 1: of here. Well, Yates, they did. I think they've done 355 00:17:31,560 --> 00:17:34,560 Speaker 1: a good coaching job. They've they got They got banged 356 00:17:34,560 --> 00:17:37,240 Speaker 1: in Houston this week for using too much wild hard banging, 357 00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:40,080 Speaker 1: but they've had to be like that all year. Sometimes 358 00:17:40,080 --> 00:17:43,000 Speaker 1: it's gonna work, sometimes it doesn't. It's t J. Yates man, 359 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:45,640 Speaker 1: he I don't know this. Let's cut through the BS two. 360 00:17:45,720 --> 00:17:47,679 Speaker 1: The Colts win this game, they're gonna win the division. 361 00:17:47,680 --> 00:17:49,600 Speaker 1: They would be seven and seven. They would have the 362 00:17:49,640 --> 00:17:52,680 Speaker 1: head to head tiebreaker on the Texans by by route 363 00:17:52,680 --> 00:17:56,480 Speaker 1: of the season sweep, and the Jaguars, barring a collapse 364 00:17:56,760 --> 00:17:59,560 Speaker 1: by the Colts, they're gonna win that division with eight 365 00:17:59,760 --> 00:18:05,520 Speaker 1: may be fully capable. There's only two more weeks left 366 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:08,080 Speaker 1: in the season. Seven wins and all the tie breaks 367 00:18:08,160 --> 00:18:10,720 Speaker 1: is point. You gonna get it done. The Jaguars have 368 00:18:10,760 --> 00:18:13,560 Speaker 1: not won more than two games in a row all season. 369 00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:14,959 Speaker 1: Why are we think they're going to get We all 370 00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:18,359 Speaker 1: agree that Jaguars are more exciting in these two teams, 371 00:18:18,359 --> 00:18:21,200 Speaker 1: but that is also a deeply flawed team over there. 372 00:18:20,680 --> 00:18:24,439 Speaker 1: And absolutely there's all they have problems as well. So 373 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:26,400 Speaker 1: we'll see what happens. I think if the Cults when 374 00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:28,640 Speaker 1: it's over and let's see what we have here. Mark 375 00:18:28,720 --> 00:18:31,040 Speaker 1: thinks it happens. He thinks the Cults win a lot 376 00:18:31,080 --> 00:18:33,760 Speaker 1: of hero picks this week. Mark, God bless you. The 377 00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:35,679 Speaker 1: rest of us took the Texans, but I think it 378 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:38,399 Speaker 1: is acquintable. That's a good hero pick. Uh. Let's move 379 00:18:38,600 --> 00:18:42,480 Speaker 1: on the Atlanta Falcons. Maybe the worst team in football 380 00:18:42,560 --> 00:18:45,480 Speaker 1: right now, as the Atlanta Falcons who started out five 381 00:18:45,520 --> 00:18:48,080 Speaker 1: and oh and now basically out of contention before Christmas. 382 00:18:48,119 --> 00:18:51,480 Speaker 1: Good job, guys. Uh. They now travel to Jacksonville to 383 00:18:51,520 --> 00:18:54,240 Speaker 1: face the Jaguars and is as we just said, the 384 00:18:54,359 --> 00:18:56,760 Speaker 1: Jaguars if they want any any I want to have 385 00:18:56,800 --> 00:18:59,440 Speaker 1: any chance of him being in the conversation, to steal 386 00:18:59,480 --> 00:19:02,359 Speaker 1: that division, you have to win this game at home. 387 00:19:02,800 --> 00:19:05,480 Speaker 1: I do not trust them even a little bit, uh, 388 00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:08,359 Speaker 1: Mark Sessler. But at the same time. I don't trust 389 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:12,320 Speaker 1: the Falcons at all. Yeah, I do trust the Jaguars 390 00:19:12,359 --> 00:19:14,880 Speaker 1: more than more than some And they have a schedule 391 00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:17,480 Speaker 1: after this Falcons game, They have the Saints and the Texans. 392 00:19:17,680 --> 00:19:21,280 Speaker 1: Winning out is not an insane endeavor. But you're right, 393 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:23,959 Speaker 1: we haven't seen them be that team. But at some 394 00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:26,680 Speaker 1: point that this young offense, I think two or two 395 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:28,120 Speaker 1: years from now, we could look at this and say 396 00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:30,720 Speaker 1: they're one of the best offenses in football. They've got 397 00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:33,080 Speaker 1: a lot of parts and they're all young and growing 398 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:35,600 Speaker 1: up together at the same time. So teams like that, 399 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:37,520 Speaker 1: when you have one side of the ball that is 400 00:19:37,560 --> 00:19:39,959 Speaker 1: on the verge of becoming dominant, you'll see them go 401 00:19:40,040 --> 00:19:42,359 Speaker 1: on a late season wins weak and I think that 402 00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:44,919 Speaker 1: they're the most entertaining team in this division. Now, are 403 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:46,960 Speaker 1: they gonna do it? Probably not, But they can take 404 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:48,720 Speaker 1: care of the Falcons that they Look what they did 405 00:19:48,800 --> 00:19:51,920 Speaker 1: last week. You're seeing all year long, You've seen little 406 00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:54,639 Speaker 1: hints of explosion from this office. One thing I'll say 407 00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:57,120 Speaker 1: about last week too, is that that was a weird game. 408 00:19:57,119 --> 00:19:58,919 Speaker 1: They were getting get food out of their building at 409 00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:01,679 Speaker 1: halftime because is they couldn't move the ball yard and 410 00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:04,320 Speaker 1: then the floodgates opened up in the second half, so 411 00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:06,520 Speaker 1: you kind of saw both sides of the Jaguars in 412 00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:09,520 Speaker 1: that game, and sixteen made it look like they painted 413 00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:12,000 Speaker 1: a masterpiece. But it wasn't that. The defense is still 414 00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:15,560 Speaker 1: a bad defense. But we talked quite a few times 415 00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:18,040 Speaker 1: during the early part of the season whether Gus Bradley 416 00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:20,520 Speaker 1: and David Colboy were in trouble, and I think their 417 00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:23,280 Speaker 1: offense has been so promising that the jobs have been saved. 418 00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:27,200 Speaker 1: Look at how they've drafted Boardles yelled in Allen Robinson. Uh, 419 00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:29,600 Speaker 1: they pick up Alan Hearns, I mean, and and they've 420 00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:31,520 Speaker 1: even drafted a couple of guards who are playing well. 421 00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:33,960 Speaker 1: So I think that David Colbol has done a good 422 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:36,120 Speaker 1: job with the offense. Jaguars should love us, because we 423 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:39,080 Speaker 1: love them. We look for any reason to get excited 424 00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:41,760 Speaker 1: about them at all. They have lost two of their 425 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:45,480 Speaker 1: last three games, and those two losses were too Possibly 426 00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:47,600 Speaker 1: the two worst teams in the FC, the Titans and 427 00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:52,240 Speaker 1: the and the Charge. That's what Okay. I'm with it though, 428 00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:55,840 Speaker 1: because Bordles is I think my number one favorite young quarterback. 429 00:20:55,960 --> 00:20:58,320 Speaker 1: Just I like them. I like to watch them play, 430 00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:00,959 Speaker 1: but I don't know they also score thirty one and 431 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:04,399 Speaker 1: forty two points in those losses. I'm just saying that 432 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:07,440 Speaker 1: they're a one sided team on one side of the ball, 433 00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:09,920 Speaker 1: and we'll see what happens. And yeah, okay, that's fair. 434 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:11,520 Speaker 1: Let's say, let's see how it plays out. They got 435 00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:13,640 Speaker 1: three games left to get it right, and we all 436 00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:18,280 Speaker 1: took the Jaguars to win that game. Moving out that, 437 00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:22,359 Speaker 1: if you're a professional in the business, there's certain affectations 438 00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:25,240 Speaker 1: that the audience wants that that would be exactly. I mean, 439 00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:27,320 Speaker 1: for really, for the three of us, it's just sitting 440 00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:30,160 Speaker 1: in on a master class. So be it. I don't 441 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:32,240 Speaker 1: want to say that, but if you say that, thank you, 442 00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:36,440 Speaker 1: I'm blessed. You're more than welcome. The Chicago Bears are 443 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:39,160 Speaker 1: five and eight and they stink and we all know that, 444 00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:41,439 Speaker 1: but they hang around the games. They head to Minnesota 445 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:44,400 Speaker 1: to face the Vikings, and the Vikings, you know, no 446 00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:47,879 Speaker 1: longer cruising along as the happy, go lucky team is 447 00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:51,840 Speaker 1: a little uh you know what's the word? You got 448 00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:54,719 Speaker 1: you gotta win a ball game here, you gotta win 449 00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:56,919 Speaker 1: it in your building, and you got the best running 450 00:21:56,920 --> 00:21:59,639 Speaker 1: back in the planet. You're sticking at his gut twenty 451 00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:02,840 Speaker 1: nine times and win the game, right Les, Oh yeah, 452 00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:05,120 Speaker 1: I mean that's your that's your recipe. If you're the Vikings, 453 00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:09,160 Speaker 1: what how are they on limball Joseph in Um, Anthony Barr, 454 00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:12,240 Speaker 1: Harrison Smith this week. I think they are expected to 455 00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:15,199 Speaker 1: get them back. I'm gonna double check for you, but 456 00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:18,280 Speaker 1: I'm looking to see if Teddy Bridgewater builds on what 457 00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:19,560 Speaker 1: was one of his best games of the year. They 458 00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:21,560 Speaker 1: had a great performance on Thursday Night football. We have 459 00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:23,879 Speaker 1: put a fight. We haven't talked about it as a team, 460 00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:26,520 Speaker 1: but they played the Cardinals tote toe. They looked like 461 00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:30,240 Speaker 1: to totally even teams and Teddy Bridgewater I thought had 462 00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:32,399 Speaker 1: probably is just about his best game of the season. 463 00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:33,960 Speaker 1: So it'd be nice to see him build on that 464 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:35,879 Speaker 1: because he's had a little bit of a disappointing season, 465 00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:38,840 Speaker 1: and from a defensive angle, that came with Joseph Harrison 466 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:41,399 Speaker 1: Smith and Anthony Barr all not on the field against 467 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:44,000 Speaker 1: one of the best offenses in football, So it's you know, 468 00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:46,399 Speaker 1: their coach Mike Szimmers said, I don't want this to 469 00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:49,920 Speaker 1: be a yo yo team, but it's not a yo yo. 470 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:52,520 Speaker 1: You're just your schedule at this point of the year 471 00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:54,879 Speaker 1: is revealing what they are, which is a good but 472 00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:57,280 Speaker 1: not great team that's not fully there yet. Looks like 473 00:22:57,320 --> 00:23:01,159 Speaker 1: Barr will not play, Smith will play, and Joseph is 474 00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:03,080 Speaker 1: up in the air, but it sounds like he'll probably play. 475 00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:04,840 Speaker 1: So there you got two out of three good info. 476 00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:09,280 Speaker 1: Greg Wes, you please with what the Boss pulled out there? Yes, because, um, 477 00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:11,800 Speaker 1: I've pilled out my Pro Bowl ballot last week for 478 00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:14,680 Speaker 1: the first time and knows where the three defensive players 479 00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:17,359 Speaker 1: on my ballot for the vikings. I liked that you 480 00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:20,200 Speaker 1: did there. I saw you tweeted that out And if 481 00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:23,919 Speaker 1: if people aren't familiar with the criteria involved with the 482 00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:26,080 Speaker 1: with the Pro Bowl, some people will think you're like 483 00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:28,680 Speaker 1: some type of accredited writer that is part of the 484 00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:31,200 Speaker 1: group that makes Pro Bowl picks. It made you seem 485 00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:33,320 Speaker 1: very important. I liked it. Did that's the way I 486 00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:35,200 Speaker 1: read it. I was like, I first split second, I thought, 487 00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:37,440 Speaker 1: whoa does West have a voice in the Pro Bowl selection? 488 00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:41,960 Speaker 1: But it's actually, yeah, me and million other people. It's 489 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:43,800 Speaker 1: actually they do a good job within the sense that 490 00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:47,240 Speaker 1: it's fans, coaches, and players all take part in the voting. 491 00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:50,560 Speaker 1: Your boy Tom Brady by the way, the leading vote getter, Uh, 492 00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:53,560 Speaker 1: just ahead of Cam Newton. He's a good player, that 493 00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:57,440 Speaker 1: Brady season. Anybody going to Hawaii to cover the game 494 00:23:57,480 --> 00:24:02,760 Speaker 1: for around the NFL, Yeah, Connor or he'll be there 495 00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:06,679 Speaker 1: Fire Miles. Yeah, you're right. He's polling them up. By 496 00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:09,119 Speaker 1: the way, why vote for Tom Brady. He has not 497 00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:14,200 Speaker 1: shown up for a Pro Bowl since two thousand and 498 00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:16,760 Speaker 1: I think it was four or something. Yeah, two thousand 499 00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:19,879 Speaker 1: and four, so it's eleven years straight. That's that's what 500 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:24,080 Speaker 1: Tommy boy. Your your precious Prince of New England, Twammy boy. 501 00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:27,840 Speaker 1: That's what he thinks about you fans. He's not exotic 502 00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:30,040 Speaker 1: enough for him. Sometimes he's in the Super Bowl, so 503 00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:34,520 Speaker 1: that many times. Unfortunately, we all took the Vikings to 504 00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:37,040 Speaker 1: improve the nine and five, which would you know, basically 505 00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:39,480 Speaker 1: wrap it up for them going to the playoffs. They 506 00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:41,840 Speaker 1: need that. Just get the wind, don't let any doubts 507 00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:43,960 Speaker 1: creep into your mind, and you should be able to 508 00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:47,280 Speaker 1: handle that. Come on a sub the subreddit board. I'm 509 00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:48,720 Speaker 1: sure we haven't checked in on that in a while, 510 00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:51,080 Speaker 1: but you gotta imagine they're freaking out right. I heard 511 00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:53,480 Speaker 1: from a Vikings fan after I picked them to win 512 00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:56,240 Speaker 1: multiple times, and they kept getting losing on me and 513 00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:58,919 Speaker 1: killing me in the picks. Who said, listen, we we are, 514 00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:01,320 Speaker 1: we are. I'm sorry and I agree, They're just they're not. 515 00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:03,040 Speaker 1: You are we are? You're the last wild card team? 516 00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:04,560 Speaker 1: Go up, film with it all? Right, here we go, 517 00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:08,800 Speaker 1: We move on. The Tennessee Titans visit the throne of 518 00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:12,800 Speaker 1: ease in Foxborough. I don't know. I'm not gonna listen. 519 00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:14,640 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what you watch. The New York Jets 520 00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:17,320 Speaker 1: and Tennessee Titans played last week. Tennessee barely showed up 521 00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:20,280 Speaker 1: for that game. Guys making business decisions on the field. 522 00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:23,359 Speaker 1: This game is twenty seven nothing at halftime before the 523 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:26,520 Speaker 1: Jets took their foot off the accelerator. I think the 524 00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:28,800 Speaker 1: Patriots and they might even get Julian Edelman back in 525 00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:31,160 Speaker 1: this game. They got Gronk, who looked healthy last week. 526 00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:42,480 Speaker 1: This smells like Burger really offense, offense getting healthy. A 527 00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:46,560 Speaker 1: terrible Tennessee team that's quit on an interim coach fifty Boa. Well, 528 00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:48,920 Speaker 1: they're not healthy in the backfield. That's one thing I'd say. 529 00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:51,160 Speaker 1: What to run? Greg, you pointed out this morning on 530 00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:55,960 Speaker 1: on slack, Quit slacking, sign up for Slack today. You know, 531 00:25:56,040 --> 00:26:00,080 Speaker 1: Blunt's out and they slack h Q on Twitter. You, 532 00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:04,840 Speaker 1: I mean, please, that's sponsor. But literally, we're getting no 533 00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:07,879 Speaker 1: money from them, but a lot of people are getting 534 00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:11,000 Speaker 1: at Slack saying, hey, give the guy's money at around 535 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:15,280 Speaker 1: the NFL. And here's the most twisted thing about it 536 00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:17,840 Speaker 1: is that if we did get a sponsor, it would 537 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:20,720 Speaker 1: be the NFL getting the money. Where are the heroes 538 00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:23,840 Speaker 1: in this where's the pout? And you're showing, you know, 539 00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:26,240 Speaker 1: before they even sink their dough into us, that you 540 00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:29,160 Speaker 1: can do a spot, you know, pricelessly in a beautiful 541 00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:33,240 Speaker 1: way that promotes the products and the business dynamics of 542 00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:36,480 Speaker 1: this world. Make me six sometimes I hear you Anyway, 543 00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:39,640 Speaker 1: this game, I thought you're you're starting to talk about 544 00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:42,000 Speaker 1: losing La Garrett Blend for the season. That's this is 545 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:44,080 Speaker 1: the first time we've taped the podcast since that happened. 546 00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:46,679 Speaker 1: That's a major loss for them. Not that La Garrett 547 00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:48,320 Speaker 1: Blend is one of the top ten running backs in 548 00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:50,840 Speaker 1: the league, but I think there's a significant drop off 549 00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:54,920 Speaker 1: to Brandon bold And and James White. Those are literally 550 00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:58,080 Speaker 1: the only two running backs active on the roster. White 551 00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:00,280 Speaker 1: doesn't even run the ball. I mean, he's basically you're 552 00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:05,000 Speaker 1: not He's a poor poor man's Dion Lewis. And you 553 00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:07,520 Speaker 1: figure they're going to activate either Monty Ball, who they've 554 00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:10,359 Speaker 1: signed to their practice squad, or I forget the name 555 00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:13,280 Speaker 1: of their it's a full bad rookie of Trey Williams. 556 00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:16,800 Speaker 1: I mean they got Leonard Hankerson. I'm kind of excited 557 00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:20,840 Speaker 1: about that. Julian Edelman had a Throne of Vas moment 558 00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:24,080 Speaker 1: in the hallway today talking about the Falcons just basically 559 00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:27,280 Speaker 1: giving the Patriots. Well, I thought it was nice. Scott 560 00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:30,040 Speaker 1: Piolie and Thomas de Mittrop. They're struggling there in Atlanta. 561 00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:33,920 Speaker 1: Things aren't going well. They do the old Patriots a 562 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:38,240 Speaker 1: solid Hankerson requests his release off injured reserve. Here have 563 00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:41,679 Speaker 1: this solid wide receiver who was your number two wide receiver. 564 00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:44,840 Speaker 1: We'll let him go. You can have him. Watch Leonard 565 00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:47,920 Speaker 1: Hankerson catch a crucial touchdown passing the playoffs, I guarantee. 566 00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:51,199 Speaker 1: Kind of surprising because the Falcon's offense hasn't been right 567 00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:54,440 Speaker 1: since Hankerson got injured. He's one of the reasons that 568 00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:57,880 Speaker 1: that their offenses sunk because he's not playing. I like him, 569 00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:00,320 Speaker 1: I mean, I like adding a little. Wouldn't be surprised. 570 00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:03,479 Speaker 1: I would not be surprised. He needs some depth, does all? 571 00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:05,560 Speaker 1: I mean on offense, they just need offensive players that 572 00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:07,840 Speaker 1: are halfway competent to Tom Brady. You know what else 573 00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:10,480 Speaker 1: we're talking that Every other team ahead of the Patriots 574 00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:13,600 Speaker 1: on the waiver wire also cooperated to let Hankerson fall 575 00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:15,840 Speaker 1: right down to New England. Have a nice end of 576 00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:19,320 Speaker 1: your season, Leonard Hankerson. That's Super Bowl m v P. 577 00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:23,679 Speaker 1: Leonard Hankerson. He fought, I was thinking I start Jared Allen, Uh, 578 00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:26,320 Speaker 1: you know in some highlight recently for the Panther's Like, 579 00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:28,000 Speaker 1: oh I forgot about you, buddy. You're in a good 580 00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:30,600 Speaker 1: spot all of a sudden. Now you and Lenny could 581 00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:32,400 Speaker 1: talk about it at the Super Bowl this year. I mean, 582 00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:34,359 Speaker 1: you never know. It might be one of those things too, 583 00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:37,840 Speaker 1: Like if there's changes in Atlanta after the season, you 584 00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:40,280 Speaker 1: could come in even be part of this Super Bowl run. 585 00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:45,000 Speaker 1: Let's stop acting like stop acting like the Patriots aren't 586 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:46,640 Speaker 1: just gonna plug in somebody who's gonna rush for a 587 00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:49,400 Speaker 1: hundred yards exactly. They have the twenty seventh ranked rushing 588 00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:51,440 Speaker 1: attack in the league in terms of yards. That's why 589 00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:54,120 Speaker 1: Lacarre Blunt isn't that big of a loss. I hear 590 00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:57,120 Speaker 1: that that too. Well before that hip injury either, Lagart 591 00:28:57,200 --> 00:28:59,560 Speaker 1: Blunt has not been scary this year. Well, just you 592 00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:01,800 Speaker 1: get him to January, that's when he becomes the guy. 593 00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:04,040 Speaker 1: That's what they won't have. He's okay, And I don't 594 00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:06,040 Speaker 1: know how Brandon Bolden is gonna hold up with twenty. 595 00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:08,040 Speaker 1: I guess they just won't Stephen Jacks. They won't run 596 00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:10,200 Speaker 1: the ball. Really tough spot for Greg here d Yeah, 597 00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:12,320 Speaker 1: I hope you're okay this weekend, Greg, moving on, we 598 00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:16,040 Speaker 1: all took the Patriots to outlast the Titans. The Buffalo 599 00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:20,320 Speaker 1: Bills are heading to Landover, which is in Maryland, which 600 00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:26,520 Speaker 1: is where the Washington Redskins. Yes, correct us, Yes we 601 00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:30,240 Speaker 1: anybody that's been asking about when West as toaster that 602 00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:33,240 Speaker 1: will come back sometime in the offseason in a revised format. 603 00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:35,880 Speaker 1: That's all I'll be said right now. Too many tomato can, 604 00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:40,640 Speaker 1: too many tomato kids. The Buffalo Bills are playing the Redskins. Uh. 605 00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:43,400 Speaker 1: The Bills are basically done for after that loss to 606 00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:45,400 Speaker 1: the Eagles last week. But you know, if you want 607 00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:47,120 Speaker 1: to give yourself any shot. You gotta win the last 608 00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:50,320 Speaker 1: three games on your schedule. The Redskins. Meanwhile, they're tied 609 00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:52,720 Speaker 1: for first place in the NFC East three teams at 610 00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:56,280 Speaker 1: six and seven. Uh, Chris Westling, here's one thing to 611 00:29:56,320 --> 00:30:00,280 Speaker 1: be nervous about that Tyrod Taylor is the greatest of 612 00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:04,320 Speaker 1: all time. This according to Bill's running back Carlos Williams, 613 00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:09,160 Speaker 1: the greatest what of alto quarterback? He called him the 614 00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:13,160 Speaker 1: goat this week an interview with a local reporter. I 615 00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:17,120 Speaker 1: don't that doesn't really make sense to me. I don't 616 00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:19,320 Speaker 1: know what he's doing for there. Well, all right now 617 00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:23,240 Speaker 1: not I don't want to leave Carlos Williams hanging. His brother, 618 00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:28,040 Speaker 1: uh played at Florida State while Tyrod sellers at Virginia Tech, 619 00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:31,280 Speaker 1: and he saw him do special things in college and 620 00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:33,920 Speaker 1: now is obviously a fan of his work as a 621 00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:37,400 Speaker 1: starter this season. Well, he's been a godsend to the Bills, 622 00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:41,200 Speaker 1: who we spent the off season basically trashing their quarterback situation. 623 00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:43,960 Speaker 1: He's been I would guess he's in the top fifteen 624 00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:47,920 Speaker 1: on Greg's Quarterback Index. He's above average quarterback this season. 625 00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:50,320 Speaker 1: That's the that's the funky thing about this Bill season 626 00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:53,280 Speaker 1: is that Rex finally got a quarterback, and then he 627 00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:55,880 Speaker 1: wasn't able to coach up the defense. But he had 628 00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:59,800 Speaker 1: two big time throws last week. At the end of 629 00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:02,280 Speaker 1: that game against the Eagles, third and I think it 630 00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:03,960 Speaker 1: was third and long with about two and a half 631 00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:06,440 Speaker 1: minutes left, where he had a wide open Sammy Watkins 632 00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:09,080 Speaker 1: sailed it. Uh then gets the ball back with a 633 00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:11,400 Speaker 1: chance to get the field goal that keeps him in 634 00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:15,760 Speaker 1: playoff contention, airmails a deep ball right to the Eagles. 635 00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:18,000 Speaker 1: He's a good He's had a good season. I still 636 00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:20,720 Speaker 1: don't know if you can just pencil him in next 637 00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:23,240 Speaker 1: years like that's your guy long too. I wrote a 638 00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:28,640 Speaker 1: post on around the NFL yesterday about his well perhaps 639 00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:31,040 Speaker 1: but he what is not a humble brag at this. 640 00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:33,480 Speaker 1: I know it's getting it's getting loose the standards, but 641 00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:37,360 Speaker 1: uh by reaching fifty of the team snaps snaps. It 642 00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:40,120 Speaker 1: voids the third year of the contract he signed. So 643 00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:42,120 Speaker 1: next year is a contract year for him, and the 644 00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:45,320 Speaker 1: Bills will have to make a decision sooner rather than later. 645 00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:47,560 Speaker 1: I guess the move would probably be weighted out and 646 00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:50,440 Speaker 1: not get fitzpatricked again. If you're Buffalo. But at the 647 00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:52,760 Speaker 1: same time, it's like he has a one passer rating. 648 00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:57,400 Speaker 1: He's basically been their best quarterback since Rob Johnson. I 649 00:31:57,400 --> 00:31:59,000 Speaker 1: don't think you want to play too many games. If 650 00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:01,600 Speaker 1: you like him, sign him. Yeah, what's the rush though? 651 00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:03,840 Speaker 1: Wait till halfway through next season. You want to give 652 00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:05,600 Speaker 1: him a big contract. Well, if you believe in them, 653 00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:08,000 Speaker 1: you could probably get him at a good value. You 654 00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:09,880 Speaker 1: know what I mean. It's this week there. If you 655 00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:11,520 Speaker 1: look at the games that we're talking about, there are 656 00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:13,520 Speaker 1: not a lot of good games at all. This is 657 00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:16,840 Speaker 1: one of the more interesting ones in my book. And 658 00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:19,560 Speaker 1: you know this is the Bills. The Bills to me, 659 00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:21,520 Speaker 1: every time I get excited about they let me down 660 00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:25,160 Speaker 1: and I find them. They're very agitating group of people. 661 00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:28,200 Speaker 1: But you know they run the ball well. And the Redskins. 662 00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:31,160 Speaker 1: We've had our quote for Twitter now the Bills are 663 00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:34,000 Speaker 1: a very agitating group of people. Yeah, that was the 664 00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:37,560 Speaker 1: record show that we forked them correctly. That's true. You know. 665 00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:39,600 Speaker 1: The fourth thing isn't looking as bad as it looked 666 00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:42,120 Speaker 1: a few weeks ago. We're still in trouble with a 667 00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:43,560 Speaker 1: couple of teams, but it's not going to be a 668 00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:45,960 Speaker 1: train wreck. We're still writing a check. Most like the 669 00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:48,720 Speaker 1: Chiefs are are the ones and it's hard to really 670 00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:51,840 Speaker 1: but even they're not safe. I mean now it's hard 671 00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:54,760 Speaker 1: to say. See that coming to I mean, if the 672 00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:58,280 Speaker 1: Colts win the division and somehow the Chiefs lose out 673 00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:01,360 Speaker 1: in that game of musical chairs, we're cruising, baby. You 674 00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:04,240 Speaker 1: ain't cut no check for charity? Yeah, who wait, it's 675 00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:05,880 Speaker 1: Christmas time. You should want to cut a check for 676 00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:11,120 Speaker 1: I know that was why I was joking. Anyway, we 677 00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:17,120 Speaker 1: uh oh oh interesting uh Dan and Connor took the Bills. 678 00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:24,080 Speaker 1: The rest of the crew took the Redskins million. By 679 00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:26,040 Speaker 1: the way, you said in my book, Mark, I would 680 00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:28,440 Speaker 1: love to read your book. What was in my book? 681 00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:33,080 Speaker 1: I don't remember this game was in your book. You 682 00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:36,120 Speaker 1: know what's in that book? I don't know. I have 683 00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:37,800 Speaker 1: to go read it. You can have this game. You 684 00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:40,560 Speaker 1: can be assigned this game, can I well, wait, okay, 685 00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:43,040 Speaker 1: I don't think there's gonna be a huge demand. I'm 686 00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:45,840 Speaker 1: not clamoring for it. The Green Bay Packers are heading 687 00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:49,080 Speaker 1: to Oakland, the black Hole, as it's known, to face 688 00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:53,040 Speaker 1: the Raiders. The Raiders another team that's basically out of 689 00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:55,320 Speaker 1: it now. At six and seven. The way the a 690 00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:58,040 Speaker 1: f C and the NFC really the wild card picture, 691 00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:00,640 Speaker 1: it's not uh. You know, a lot out of teams 692 00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:03,479 Speaker 1: fighting for those spots. Uh. And the Raiders are one 693 00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:05,360 Speaker 1: of those teams that basically needs a miracle. They gotta 694 00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:08,200 Speaker 1: win out so they gotta beat the Packers uh in 695 00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:12,560 Speaker 1: their building. And I'll tell you what, don't have the 696 00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:16,480 Speaker 1: guts to pick the Raiders. I'm not gonna do it. 697 00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:19,440 Speaker 1: I thought about it, didn't, But I really would not 698 00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:22,920 Speaker 1: be shocked if some of these Packers problems pop up 699 00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:25,120 Speaker 1: again on the road with a bit of a schizophrenic 700 00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:27,600 Speaker 1: Raiders team that has has had its moments this season. 701 00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:29,760 Speaker 1: I could see it being one of those good Derek 702 00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:33,120 Speaker 1: Carr games. Uh. Mary Cooper breaks out of his his slump, 703 00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:35,680 Speaker 1: you know, Latavius Murray runs for a hundred yards, and 704 00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:37,600 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, the Raiders are cooking. I could 705 00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:40,840 Speaker 1: see it. I'd be interested to see how Mike McCarthy 706 00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:43,600 Speaker 1: plays this game. He said he needed to shut up 707 00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:45,200 Speaker 1: more when they asked him about taking over as a 708 00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:47,560 Speaker 1: play caller. A few days later, he became the play 709 00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:51,839 Speaker 1: caller and then changed the entire offense, rolled out two 710 00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:54,840 Speaker 1: back sets forty eight times and their average was eleven 711 00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:58,279 Speaker 1: times per game before that. And along with that came 712 00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:01,239 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers, by far his best action performance of the year. 713 00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:03,480 Speaker 1: He had a hundred forty point five pass are rating 714 00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:06,000 Speaker 1: on play action in that game. So everything was built 715 00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:08,600 Speaker 1: around the running game, which is something that hasn't really 716 00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:10,879 Speaker 1: been the case since McCarthy has been in Green Back 717 00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:13,040 Speaker 1: and it's and the Raiders have not given up a 718 00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:15,440 Speaker 1: hundred yards since Week eleven on the ground, I mean, 719 00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:19,200 Speaker 1: their run defense has been surprisingly stout. Gave up thirty 720 00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:21,400 Speaker 1: four to the Broncos and that was without C. J. Anderson. 721 00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:24,520 Speaker 1: But you know, I picked the Raiders in this game. 722 00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:26,719 Speaker 1: I don't want to spoil that your little moment they're 723 00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:29,959 Speaker 1: day with the picks part of this, But listen, I 724 00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:34,160 Speaker 1: think that well, I don't know, because that's your special time. Yeah, 725 00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:36,160 Speaker 1: I don't that's your It is a special time for 726 00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:38,279 Speaker 1: you to you know, do your little thing. And so 727 00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:40,759 Speaker 1: I you know, I apologize, I don't know what we're 728 00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:44,120 Speaker 1: talking about. But no, well, by the way, you picked 729 00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:46,560 Speaker 1: the team that has Khalil Mack, I did, But what 730 00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:48,879 Speaker 1: you just said and why you think you almost picked 731 00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:51,759 Speaker 1: them is why I think that they've got another signature 732 00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:54,000 Speaker 1: win left him in what has been a good season 733 00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:56,399 Speaker 1: in Oakland, and then it's not a fluke what's happening there. 734 00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:58,359 Speaker 1: There are a lot of young, good players on both 735 00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:01,000 Speaker 1: sides of the ball, and the green Bay Packers. I 736 00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:03,080 Speaker 1: think what happened at the end of that Dallas game 737 00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:07,600 Speaker 1: is not how green Bay can operate consistently every quarter. 738 00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:09,239 Speaker 1: I don't think they're there yet. On offense, well, it's 739 00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:11,360 Speaker 1: easy to stay committed to the running game when you 740 00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:14,080 Speaker 1: when you know you can stop the opposing offense, When 741 00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:16,560 Speaker 1: you can just keep giving Matt Castle drive after drive, 742 00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:20,040 Speaker 1: you can be patient. We have been so eager to 743 00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:24,120 Speaker 1: just believe that the Packers are back after these couple wins. Okay, 744 00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:26,359 Speaker 1: they get a win, everything's fine. We thought that after 745 00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:28,440 Speaker 1: the Vikings game. So I just want to see them 746 00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:30,680 Speaker 1: put it together for a couple of weeks. There's no 747 00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:33,600 Speaker 1: reason to think that they're out of the Super Bowl mix, 748 00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:36,319 Speaker 1: but you just would like to see it. So let's 749 00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:39,279 Speaker 1: let's see it this week. Let you start stacking up 750 00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:41,560 Speaker 1: some wins where the defense is playing well, where this 751 00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:44,800 Speaker 1: new running game is rolling and this is a tough matchup. 752 00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:46,360 Speaker 1: I agree with you guys. I think the Raiders have 753 00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:49,840 Speaker 1: a chance. I think you know, cosplay mark is a 754 00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:53,160 Speaker 1: big thing. If you go to a Raiders game and uh, 755 00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:57,520 Speaker 1: it's cosplay, cosplay is it's it's costume play, it's it's 756 00:36:57,520 --> 00:36:59,879 Speaker 1: something mark. I know you're dressing up for Star Wars. 757 00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:02,479 Speaker 1: I am absolutely not. And the only reason this word 758 00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:04,239 Speaker 1: is mean as because because I had a friend that 759 00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:06,560 Speaker 1: texted it to me and I had to go look 760 00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:08,600 Speaker 1: up what it meant. Well, I just want to sense 761 00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:12,320 Speaker 1: on the subject that cosplay it's a lot like a subreddit, Sydney. 762 00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:17,560 Speaker 1: I just wanna let you know, Darling, that disney Land 763 00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:21,600 Speaker 1: and Disney World have instituted a new policy that affects 764 00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:25,360 Speaker 1: you directly. Um, now they're a walk through metal detectives. 765 00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:28,160 Speaker 1: I don't think that that hurts you at all. But 766 00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:31,680 Speaker 1: there is now a ban on costumes for anyone fourteen 767 00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:36,160 Speaker 1: and older, and that includes during Halloween season. Your thoughts, um, 768 00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:38,520 Speaker 1: I was not aware even if you did, I just 769 00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:40,600 Speaker 1: drop a bomb and well no, but I mean there's 770 00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:43,680 Speaker 1: like a there's like a Halloween party that they've been 771 00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:47,080 Speaker 1: allowing people to go anymore. Would you dress up if 772 00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:49,200 Speaker 1: you were to go to the theme park yourself. Well, 773 00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:52,840 Speaker 1: she goes all the time. They have during Halloween. Already 774 00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:55,640 Speaker 1: you dress up as well. I dressed up as on 775 00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:58,239 Speaker 1: a from else from Frozen. Look at you. I don't 776 00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:03,959 Speaker 1: even know who that is. I don't know what it. Yeah, 777 00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:08,960 Speaker 1: Greg knows, I didn't know the difference. I didn't know 778 00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:14,839 Speaker 1: that blond nor I have a hot take about them. 779 00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:19,200 Speaker 1: But we'll talk about it off of our let. We're 780 00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:22,000 Speaker 1: gonna say something like misogynistic or something. No, it was 781 00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:25,239 Speaker 1: more like it is more that all the kids like 782 00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:27,640 Speaker 1: like one of those two characters. But it's it's an 783 00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:31,600 Speaker 1: it's unfair, it makes no sense. Well, but Greg, you're 784 00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:34,920 Speaker 1: also someone that you know. We we question if the 785 00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:38,000 Speaker 1: childhood occurred in your life, and well we were also 786 00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:40,960 Speaker 1: we're easing Greg into the general population with this new 787 00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:43,359 Speaker 1: job he's had for the last few years. So it's 788 00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:45,960 Speaker 1: all it's all happening. Although I can't debate. I have 789 00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:48,399 Speaker 1: no hot takes on Frozen as you do, so I'll 790 00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:52,000 Speaker 1: go with you. I think you're right. Probably I don't. 791 00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:54,120 Speaker 1: I really don't want to get it too much. I 792 00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:56,920 Speaker 1: will say that the like the metal detectors, that's actually 793 00:38:56,920 --> 00:38:59,080 Speaker 1: a really comforting thing because I was there. Last time 794 00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:01,960 Speaker 1: I was there, I was thinking, king like, why aren't 795 00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:05,480 Speaker 1: their metal detectors? With how many people walk through, I 796 00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:08,200 Speaker 1: would fill a lot these at different times. What's good 797 00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:10,400 Speaker 1: job by Sydney to get the Around the NFL podcast 798 00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:14,200 Speaker 1: crew off the frozen topic. Just bring it around. So 799 00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:16,239 Speaker 1: I'm sorry to break the bad news to you about 800 00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:20,680 Speaker 1: your upcoming Halloween party. Experienced it. It's fine, okay, cool 801 00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:24,640 Speaker 1: upcoming Halloween when twelve months away, you know you might 802 00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:26,840 Speaker 1: be planning anyway. The rest of us took the packers 803 00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:30,040 Speaker 1: besides the sizzler. All right, it's that time of the 804 00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:34,240 Speaker 1: show where we bring in uh you know one of 805 00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:38,600 Speaker 1: the you know, how do we look at you know, 806 00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:42,919 Speaker 1: we talked about the Brotherhood, which would incorporate the four 807 00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:45,240 Speaker 1: hero I thought you're gonna say one of the faces 808 00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:47,440 Speaker 1: of NFL Network that would have been that. I'm getting 809 00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:50,880 Speaker 1: to it. We've done that, We've done that before. But 810 00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:54,160 Speaker 1: this is one of the close friends of the Around 811 00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:58,560 Speaker 1: the NFL uh podcast. Uh you know her as the 812 00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:03,080 Speaker 1: face of NFL Network. Her name is Lindsay Rhodes. That 813 00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:08,440 Speaker 1: for any real what you are? I want to know 814 00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:10,600 Speaker 1: where you were going initially though, before you were interrupted 815 00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:13,239 Speaker 1: because you sort of started saying like, hey, they're like 816 00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:17,040 Speaker 1: the regulars or the here. I don't exactly remember your words, 817 00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:22,600 Speaker 1: but you're and then and then, well, the way you 818 00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:24,240 Speaker 1: were setting it up and then the way you finished 819 00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:27,400 Speaker 1: might not have been like an outsider not complimentary on 820 00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:30,879 Speaker 1: that well, kind of like, hey, guys, there's us, there's 821 00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:33,920 Speaker 1: a Lindsay. Yeah, well there's tears, I guess. But I 822 00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:37,480 Speaker 1: wanted to do it right down to it. That's what 823 00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:39,719 Speaker 1: That's what I was alluding to, know, but not in 824 00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:42,799 Speaker 1: that sense because you don't understand that the hierarchy. You 825 00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:46,040 Speaker 1: are high up, but you're just on a different tier. 826 00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:48,520 Speaker 1: I mean, you haven't been on four podcasts with us. 827 00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:51,920 Speaker 1: You're racing up the power rankings. I don't know you're 828 00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:54,399 Speaker 1: taking myself. Some are more equal than others. I thought 829 00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:57,520 Speaker 1: you're awkward text telling Lindsay to get up here. I 830 00:40:57,600 --> 00:41:00,719 Speaker 1: was gonna be your low point, but is wrong. Yes, 831 00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:02,640 Speaker 1: I was running a few minutes later and I gotta 832 00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:05,759 Speaker 1: are you in danger? Do you need help? I like that. 833 00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:07,560 Speaker 1: I think it's a good way to go about I 834 00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:10,400 Speaker 1: don't want to be a monster. Lindsey welcome back to 835 00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:12,600 Speaker 1: the show. In spite of all this, I am, you know, 836 00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:14,440 Speaker 1: as you know, a huge fan of your work on 837 00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:21,520 Speaker 1: Network and personally I find you to be delightful. So 838 00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:25,120 Speaker 1: that's why you're here. And uh so we are going 839 00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:27,239 Speaker 1: to talk about something. Would you like an autograph in 840 00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:32,279 Speaker 1: black ink? Yes? Only black? Before before we started rolling here, 841 00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:36,320 Speaker 1: I I did acknowledge that I I hate blue pens, 842 00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:39,239 Speaker 1: blue ink um to the point I need I can't. 843 00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:40,960 Speaker 1: They can't even be around me. It's a weird. And 844 00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:44,480 Speaker 1: I'm urging you to seek help on that because I, 845 00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:47,439 Speaker 1: as mentioned, I think it starts back to a time 846 00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:50,719 Speaker 1: early in your life. I don't know, perhaps, And I 847 00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:54,719 Speaker 1: do think that a hypnotist would be really good podcast material. Yeah, 848 00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:56,880 Speaker 1: I mean, who knows what a hypnotist would find if 849 00:41:56,920 --> 00:42:00,200 Speaker 1: you went into a subconscious version of day's society still 850 00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:03,359 Speaker 1: buying into hypnotists like a hypnotism a cape and like 851 00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:06,200 Speaker 1: it's it's not I'm not saying it's hypnotism either. What 852 00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:08,480 Speaker 1: if they you need you need help, is what I'm saying. 853 00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:10,000 Speaker 1: What if they go in there and they they don't 854 00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:14,840 Speaker 1: find that much like a lot of hair, the nothing there. 855 00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:22,960 Speaker 1: The one thing and he's just like cheeseburgers. Yeah, the 856 00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:26,560 Speaker 1: Irish Catholic in me will never seek professional help. All 857 00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:28,879 Speaker 1: you you just bury it and then you move on. 858 00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:31,600 Speaker 1: So the pen stuff is way deep on my intersyche 859 00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:36,240 Speaker 1: there's no getting out. Okay, well you're beyond help. Let's four, John, Yes, exactly, 860 00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:40,320 Speaker 1: all right, let's talk about some football games. I would love, uh, lindsay, 861 00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:41,719 Speaker 1: for you to join us in this part of the 862 00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:44,520 Speaker 1: show where we talk about UH four different games as 863 00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:48,560 Speaker 1: we continue to work through Sunday Slate UH and Monday night. 864 00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:51,799 Speaker 1: Of course, Let's start with a game in Pittsburgh. This 865 00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:53,200 Speaker 1: is a big one. This is a big one of 866 00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:57,399 Speaker 1: big playoff implications for both teams. The Denver Broncos at 867 00:42:57,480 --> 00:43:01,000 Speaker 1: Hines Field to face the Steelers. Uh. It's a game 868 00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:04,720 Speaker 1: between a ten and three Bronco team that is coming 869 00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:08,120 Speaker 1: off a tough loss UH in their building with brock 870 00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:10,640 Speaker 1: Oswilder his first loss at a start as a starter, 871 00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:13,160 Speaker 1: and here are the Steelers coming on strong. Eight and 872 00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:16,280 Speaker 1: five might even be getting having cute little thoughts about 873 00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:18,360 Speaker 1: who can we steal the a f C North with 874 00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:21,399 Speaker 1: the Bengals in trouble, UH, with a J McCarron now 875 00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:24,840 Speaker 1: playing quarterback. Lindsay, I'll start with you. Is there anybody 876 00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:26,400 Speaker 1: playing at a higher level in the a f C 877 00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:29,840 Speaker 1: right now than the Steelers? I really like the Steelers 878 00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:32,799 Speaker 1: right now. Um. I think this is kind of the 879 00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:34,560 Speaker 1: team that we thought they were going to be at 880 00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:37,080 Speaker 1: the beginning of the year and then we sort of 881 00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:38,960 Speaker 1: forgot about in the middle of the year because they 882 00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:41,960 Speaker 1: were dealing with so many injuries. But this offense is 883 00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:45,560 Speaker 1: just so good. It's even more impressive though, because Levy 884 00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:49,000 Speaker 1: on Bell is not involved. This guy and we you know, 885 00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:53,040 Speaker 1: we've thrown parades for this guy and he's not in 886 00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:55,600 Speaker 1: the picture, and yet they're still dominant. Yeah. How is 887 00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:59,440 Speaker 1: D'Angelo Williams doing what he's doing at this stage in 888 00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:01,800 Speaker 1: his career? I think is one of the bigger question 889 00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:04,879 Speaker 1: marks of the season. But I don't know. I I'm 890 00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:07,719 Speaker 1: really looking forward to seeing the Steeler's offense against the 891 00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:11,160 Speaker 1: Broncos defense. The Broncos d T J. Ward with a 892 00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:14,560 Speaker 1: great line this week saying they're just hot because they 893 00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:18,640 Speaker 1: haven't faced us yet. That'll be on a bulletin board 894 00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:21,720 Speaker 1: in Pittsburgh's locker room, I'm sure, but it is fair 895 00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:25,400 Speaker 1: their number one in everything? Is there an actual bolton 896 00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:28,680 Speaker 1: board like in locker rooms anymore? Sometimes? I mean, if 897 00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:30,560 Speaker 1: you're playing White pett and I'd have a bolton board 898 00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:33,279 Speaker 1: in your Petton's gonna pipe down. One of the things 899 00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:36,279 Speaker 1: I like about the Steelers is that last week they 900 00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:38,520 Speaker 1: showed you they don't have to go one speed. It 901 00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:41,680 Speaker 1: doesn't all have to be bombs down the field. I 902 00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:44,320 Speaker 1: think the Bengals did a very good job taking away 903 00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:46,440 Speaker 1: the deep ball, and what you saw was a lot 904 00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:49,880 Speaker 1: of Ben roethlis for going through his progressions going to 905 00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:53,800 Speaker 1: the open receiver. They killed the Bengals in time of possession. 906 00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:56,400 Speaker 1: It was a different type of Steelers game because I 907 00:44:56,400 --> 00:44:58,719 Speaker 1: think that the defense they were facing was doing a 908 00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:00,440 Speaker 1: good job, so they just took what they gave him. 909 00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:03,520 Speaker 1: It showed a little bit more of a mature Ben Roethlisberger. 910 00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:06,239 Speaker 1: I don't think that kind of player existed three or 911 00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:08,880 Speaker 1: four years ago, where he can really dissect the defense, 912 00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:11,400 Speaker 1: no exactly where to go like a Tom Brady, and 913 00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:13,680 Speaker 1: I think that's what he showed last week. He's been 914 00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:15,759 Speaker 1: my favorite quarterback to watch this year. I don't think 915 00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:18,840 Speaker 1: anybody's thrown the ball better than him. I agree. I 916 00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:20,640 Speaker 1: think you'd be my m v P pick if he 917 00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:22,920 Speaker 1: had played every game, or at least my he's the 918 00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:25,360 Speaker 1: best quarterback in the league pick. Not to take anything 919 00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:27,840 Speaker 1: away from him, but you also wonder if with the 920 00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:29,920 Speaker 1: offensive weapons that he has, that puts him in a 921 00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:32,440 Speaker 1: position to do that a lot more right, Whereas in 922 00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:34,680 Speaker 1: the past, if you have one or two guys that 923 00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:36,680 Speaker 1: you might know that's why I need to get the 924 00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:38,520 Speaker 1: ball to right now. It's like, if you want to 925 00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:40,680 Speaker 1: take away Antonio Brown, that's fine. We've got Marcus Sweed, 926 00:45:40,719 --> 00:45:43,719 Speaker 1: and we've got me Tavis Bryant. I can find Heath 927 00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:46,640 Speaker 1: Miller if I mean, this is a picker poison offense, 928 00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:48,920 Speaker 1: if there is one in the NFL. Yeah, And you're right, 929 00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:51,160 Speaker 1: You're right about saying over the last you know, month 930 00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:53,200 Speaker 1: or so that they are a different team and they 931 00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:56,160 Speaker 1: really have heat it up. I mean, they're averaging like 932 00:45:56,560 --> 00:45:59,080 Speaker 1: basically more than two touchdowns more per game than they 933 00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:01,839 Speaker 1: were over the first half of the season. And I 934 00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:04,080 Speaker 1: think it's such a different feeling than when we were 935 00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:07,440 Speaker 1: writing all these articles about Ben Roethlisberger and Todd Haley 936 00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:09,239 Speaker 1: aren't on the same page. That whole thing that went 937 00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:11,480 Speaker 1: on and on. Now they talk about them like finishing 938 00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:14,239 Speaker 1: each other's sentences the same way that Arians and Big 939 00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:16,600 Speaker 1: Ben were, and they're playing that way. I mean, it's 940 00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:18,799 Speaker 1: just I would not want to deal with this team now, 941 00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:20,719 Speaker 1: and definitely not in the playoffs, although a lot of 942 00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:23,120 Speaker 1: people are just assuming they win this game, and it 943 00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:25,160 Speaker 1: is the best defense in the league, the most consistent 944 00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:28,000 Speaker 1: defense from week one on to now, and they have 945 00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:30,400 Speaker 1: everyone healthy for the most part. I think C. J. 946 00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:33,080 Speaker 1: Anderson also for the offense, is gonna play well. You 947 00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:35,960 Speaker 1: do wonder if Brockcastweller has a really at a bad game. 948 00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:38,160 Speaker 1: He hasn't really had terrible games, but if he hasn't, 949 00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:40,800 Speaker 1: if he has a bad game and they score fourteen 950 00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:44,000 Speaker 1: or seventeen points again, you know, the Peyton Manning chatter 951 00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:46,880 Speaker 1: increases this I hold here in my hands. It's funny 952 00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:50,120 Speaker 1: you bring that up. Greg the two thousand, two thousand 953 00:46:50,200 --> 00:47:02,480 Speaker 1: fifteen season, Week fifteen research notes Brocko, Yes, that was Starship, 954 00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:08,520 Speaker 1: not Jefferson Airplane right post Jefferson airplane airplane or just 955 00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:11,480 Speaker 1: Starship because they got sued. But we'll get to them 956 00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:14,319 Speaker 1: in a second. Since brock Osweiler, when I was in 957 00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:18,000 Speaker 1: third grade. Yeah, since Brock Osler Oswelder took over the 958 00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:20,239 Speaker 1: starting job in week eleven, the Broncos have the most 959 00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:23,120 Speaker 1: three and ounce in the NFL. Denver is eighteen three 960 00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:25,239 Speaker 1: and ounce in that span, followed by Houston, Philly and 961 00:47:25,239 --> 00:47:28,360 Speaker 1: New England. New England. Interesting in San Francisco, the Broncos 962 00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:30,320 Speaker 1: have not reached the end zone in their last twenty 963 00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:33,920 Speaker 1: three offensive. Dry was tied for the longest active drought 964 00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:36,200 Speaker 1: with the Cults. So you know. And by the way, 965 00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:38,080 Speaker 1: Paytmonny returned to practice this week, he was with a 966 00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:40,440 Speaker 1: scout team, which I can't imagine he ever thought that 967 00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:43,160 Speaker 1: would happen in this December or any December. But Brock 968 00:47:43,239 --> 00:47:46,319 Speaker 1: not tearing it up. James Winston has twenty one three 969 00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:48,880 Speaker 1: and ounce all year and Brock Osweller has got eighteen 970 00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:51,439 Speaker 1: in four weeks. So like just last week's game, though 971 00:47:52,080 --> 00:47:53,400 Speaker 1: I don't know that you can put much of that 972 00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:57,839 Speaker 1: on Brock was awful. There were so many drops he 973 00:47:57,880 --> 00:48:01,120 Speaker 1: was getting hit on every single drop back. Not all that, 974 00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:03,840 Speaker 1: but numbers don't look good. But yeah, when they're not 975 00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:06,120 Speaker 1: running the ball well, you can they're they're not going 976 00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:07,520 Speaker 1: to be able to keep up with the team like 977 00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:09,960 Speaker 1: the Steelers or a lot of teams. Uh, let's say 978 00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:12,080 Speaker 1: I can just bring up that song again, because I do. 979 00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:15,040 Speaker 1: I just want to say, first of all, yeah, they 980 00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:19,080 Speaker 1: were once this was Jefferson Airplane, and then some of 981 00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:22,759 Speaker 1: the band left and then they soothed them because they 982 00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:25,640 Speaker 1: were Jefferson's Starship, so they had to drop Jefferson and 983 00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:29,359 Speaker 1: just be Starship, and then this was a number one hit. 984 00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:32,120 Speaker 1: And the reason the song is in my head right 985 00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:35,080 Speaker 1: now is because I just watched the timeline on a 986 00:48:35,120 --> 00:48:40,000 Speaker 1: tail of two cities between San Francisco and Dallas, and uh, 987 00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:43,439 Speaker 1: Jeremy Renner, who narrates from the San Francisco point of view, 988 00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:47,239 Speaker 1: claims Starship as something to be proud of. That is 989 00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:56,480 Speaker 1: the worst song. It's usually all It triggers anolvent dancing 990 00:48:56,560 --> 00:49:01,200 Speaker 1: response from Linda yourself. They started first time, I will 991 00:49:01,239 --> 00:49:03,839 Speaker 1: never mind. I haven't made it rain quite often, but 992 00:49:04,239 --> 00:49:08,120 Speaker 1: uh yeah, I say, like third grade Lindsay had like, 993 00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:11,600 Speaker 1: you know, a stack of monopoly money and it was 994 00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:16,560 Speaker 1: used in a skit that went to that song toies 995 00:49:16,640 --> 00:49:18,600 Speaker 1: and it turns out you cannot build a city on 996 00:49:18,719 --> 00:49:23,960 Speaker 1: rock and roll. Well, I'm wondering if Denver or Pittsburgh. 997 00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:28,560 Speaker 1: Was it you? You made it rain in the third 998 00:49:28,719 --> 00:49:30,640 Speaker 1: grade skit? What kind of school? I don't think. I 999 00:49:30,640 --> 00:49:33,640 Speaker 1: don't think it was literally like the you know, Lindy's 1000 00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:36,440 Speaker 1: been doing the Aaron Hernandez touchdowns. I know we're not 1001 00:49:36,440 --> 00:49:38,960 Speaker 1: supposed to say that name ever again, but why would happened? 1002 00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:43,720 Speaker 1: That part is now edited out? All right? We rejoined you? 1003 00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:46,160 Speaker 1: I mean I just around the NFL podcast. They're bad, 1004 00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:48,759 Speaker 1: but yeah, because they're from San Francisco surrenders like yeah, 1005 00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:51,160 Speaker 1: while the Niners are flying high and we were owning 1006 00:49:51,160 --> 00:49:53,319 Speaker 1: the rock charts too, It's like, whoa slow down? Let's 1007 00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:55,480 Speaker 1: not Why don't you just claim the grateful dead instead? 1008 00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:59,000 Speaker 1: Huey Lewis. Huey Lewis got a lot of pub too. 1009 00:49:59,160 --> 00:50:00,839 Speaker 1: How do you not think that that's so bad? It's 1010 00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:04,319 Speaker 1: good though? Well that was you were in third grade. 1011 00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:06,400 Speaker 1: I was in fifth grade. These guys were in diapers 1012 00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:08,200 Speaker 1: when this song came out. So it's like, no, no, 1013 00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:10,600 Speaker 1: because he and that's the thing I think if it 1014 00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:12,760 Speaker 1: wasn't it was part of my remember I was dating 1015 00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:17,040 Speaker 1: some crazy girl back there in fifth grade. Yeah. Cessler. 1016 00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:23,680 Speaker 1: Cessler peaked as a ladies band in like nine, that's 1017 00:50:23,680 --> 00:50:26,080 Speaker 1: when you were going with Well, it's like you send 1018 00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:28,560 Speaker 1: a note to across the class and it's intercepted by 1019 00:50:28,560 --> 00:50:31,279 Speaker 1: a teacher and read to everyone in the relationships over. Yeah, 1020 00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:33,080 Speaker 1: I was fifth grade too. That was my favorite song 1021 00:50:33,160 --> 00:50:35,920 Speaker 1: for probably a summer. What year was that it was? 1022 00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:38,480 Speaker 1: I just looked it up. It was number one in November. 1023 00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:43,680 Speaker 1: All right, let's move on. Uh, I'm surprised at I 1024 00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:46,200 Speaker 1: gotta say, like, do you do you recognize that the 1025 00:50:46,239 --> 00:50:49,000 Speaker 1: song is bad now? Or is it so steeped in 1026 00:50:50,360 --> 00:50:53,080 Speaker 1: it would not be popular? But no, it's too steep in. 1027 00:50:53,920 --> 00:50:57,359 Speaker 1: Alia all right, I feel like we're in a weird 1028 00:50:57,400 --> 00:51:01,160 Speaker 1: place today, but oh yeah, you are at it. Text 1029 00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:05,759 Speaker 1: with your dan, set the table and properly. We also 1030 00:51:05,800 --> 00:51:08,399 Speaker 1: at the holiday party. Listen, it's all coming out now. 1031 00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:11,040 Speaker 1: At the holiday party on Wednesday, which was a great time. 1032 00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:14,279 Speaker 1: On Tuesday, Lindsay made a reference to market I being 1033 00:51:14,320 --> 00:51:17,080 Speaker 1: smug as well. Oh I do recall that. Now, what 1034 00:51:17,160 --> 00:51:22,680 Speaker 1: was the reason for that? That seemed wrong of you? 1035 00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:25,480 Speaker 1: Your your your point was proven right there with that answer, 1036 00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:30,600 Speaker 1: though I'm inviting you to to this proved proves you right. 1037 00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:32,800 Speaker 1: I don't remember how we got into it. But I 1038 00:51:32,840 --> 00:51:36,600 Speaker 1: do believe that you were smug. I don't recall, you know, 1039 00:51:36,680 --> 00:51:39,320 Speaker 1: I'd like to have a better recollection of the smug judgment, 1040 00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:44,520 Speaker 1: you know, against the wall judging. Well, that that does 1041 00:51:44,560 --> 00:51:48,320 Speaker 1: sound so no, that doesn dan that's not helping compiling 1042 00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:52,759 Speaker 1: smug text messages or tweeters tweet twist. I don't know what. 1043 00:51:52,880 --> 00:51:57,880 Speaker 1: I don't know. This sounds that sounds very one sided 1044 00:51:57,920 --> 00:52:05,080 Speaker 1: to be suddenly sounding like Bill Belichick on the face tweet. 1045 00:52:05,360 --> 00:52:08,439 Speaker 1: Let's move on. Speaking of Bill Belichick, his former team 1046 00:52:08,480 --> 00:52:13,520 Speaker 1: to Cleveland Browns travel Century Link Field to face the 1047 00:52:13,560 --> 00:52:16,640 Speaker 1: Seahawkses make you feel better, Pete Carol, Uh, the Jets 1048 00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:19,320 Speaker 1: former coach will be there. So this is a game 1049 00:52:19,800 --> 00:52:23,480 Speaker 1: that looks like a mismatch on paper. Obviously the Seahawks. 1050 00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:25,480 Speaker 1: If the Steelers are the best team in the AFC 1051 00:52:25,640 --> 00:52:28,280 Speaker 1: right now, the Seahawks might be an all due respect 1052 00:52:28,280 --> 00:52:32,200 Speaker 1: to the Panthers playing better than anybody in the NFC. Uh, 1053 00:52:32,239 --> 00:52:35,040 Speaker 1: So here we go. Looks like a blowout. But Mark, 1054 00:52:35,120 --> 00:52:38,359 Speaker 1: you see this game being closer, don't you. Well, I mean, 1055 00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:39,960 Speaker 1: I don't know if it's I picked Seattle, so I 1056 00:52:39,960 --> 00:52:42,960 Speaker 1: don't think it's going down I'm not on NFL now. 1057 00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:46,400 Speaker 1: You didn't on NFL now, yeah, you made a headline 1058 00:52:46,440 --> 00:52:48,680 Speaker 1: from the future that Johnny Manzel was gonna win the game. 1059 00:52:49,520 --> 00:52:52,840 Speaker 1: I'm a totally different person on NFL now, Like Greg 1060 00:52:52,880 --> 00:52:54,920 Speaker 1: just snitched on you, so hard work. Well we can. 1061 00:52:55,120 --> 00:52:56,840 Speaker 1: There's another part to that, and we'll get to It 1062 00:52:56,920 --> 00:52:59,920 Speaker 1: doesn't involve me. But you know with I think Manzel 1063 00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:05,000 Speaker 1: is he's Cleveland's most exciting player, and I think that 1064 00:53:05,160 --> 00:53:06,879 Speaker 1: he doesn't have a lot of game tape. He's not 1065 00:53:07,080 --> 00:53:09,680 Speaker 1: necessarily someone that they know fully how to prepare for. 1066 00:53:09,800 --> 00:53:12,240 Speaker 1: He's not a perfect quarterback either, and he has no weapons. 1067 00:53:12,800 --> 00:53:15,480 Speaker 1: Now last year, he last week I got two yards 1068 00:53:15,480 --> 00:53:17,920 Speaker 1: on the ground rushing and that is what no quarterback 1069 00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:20,279 Speaker 1: in Cleveland's had all season. So I don't think they're 1070 00:53:20,280 --> 00:53:21,680 Speaker 1: gonna be able to run the ball, and that is 1071 00:53:21,719 --> 00:53:24,439 Speaker 1: probably what puts Manzel in a real tough spot out 1072 00:53:24,440 --> 00:53:26,680 Speaker 1: of the gate. And then you're looking to Cleveland's defense 1073 00:53:26,680 --> 00:53:28,840 Speaker 1: that couldn't stop a middle school team from rushing. For 1074 00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:32,879 Speaker 1: the Seahawks, no, I think that I think they're gonna 1075 00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:36,600 Speaker 1: Cleveland has in some games, they've scored more points than 1076 00:53:36,600 --> 00:53:39,040 Speaker 1: people expect, and I just think that they're gonna somehow. 1077 00:53:39,200 --> 00:53:41,920 Speaker 1: Their attitude seems to be, we don't give a crap anymore. 1078 00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:43,840 Speaker 1: We're just gonna do all we can to be a 1079 00:53:43,880 --> 00:53:46,640 Speaker 1: spoiler that may translate to nothing. I'm just saying something 1080 00:53:46,680 --> 00:53:49,560 Speaker 1: about Manzel is different than if you threw Josh McCown 1081 00:53:49,640 --> 00:53:52,120 Speaker 1: or Austin Davison there. Look, I don't think that this 1082 00:53:52,200 --> 00:53:55,680 Speaker 1: is going to translate to a Cleveland win, but I 1083 00:53:55,719 --> 00:53:59,759 Speaker 1: really want to see this Seahawks team without Thomas Rawls 1084 00:53:59,840 --> 00:54:03,440 Speaker 1: or Marshawn Lynch. This is a team that relies really 1085 00:54:03,480 --> 00:54:06,280 Speaker 1: heavily on its run game, and you might be starting 1086 00:54:06,280 --> 00:54:08,439 Speaker 1: Bryce Brown this They've got the al t S back 1087 00:54:08,480 --> 00:54:11,520 Speaker 1: field now with Bryce Brown and Kristen Michael. Michael brought 1088 00:54:11,600 --> 00:54:13,759 Speaker 1: back once again. You saw it. You saw it last 1089 00:54:13,800 --> 00:54:16,480 Speaker 1: week for three quarters against a team that is similar 1090 00:54:16,480 --> 00:54:20,160 Speaker 1: in talent to Cleveland, the Baltimore Ravens, and they didn't 1091 00:54:20,200 --> 00:54:22,040 Speaker 1: have any problem because right now they have the most 1092 00:54:22,080 --> 00:54:24,880 Speaker 1: accurate quarterback in the league. I mean Russell Wilson's winning 1093 00:54:24,920 --> 00:54:27,920 Speaker 1: games without running the ball his act. I mean his 1094 00:54:28,080 --> 00:54:31,279 Speaker 1: throws last week into tight windows, not easy throws, just 1095 00:54:31,400 --> 00:54:33,680 Speaker 1: money play after play. I think the extra the best 1096 00:54:33,719 --> 00:54:35,960 Speaker 1: team in the league just about right now. Their defense 1097 00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:38,160 Speaker 1: does give up more passing yards than you'd expect. Even 1098 00:54:38,200 --> 00:54:40,040 Speaker 1: Jimmy Clawson went up and down the field in the 1099 00:54:40,080 --> 00:54:43,000 Speaker 1: first half. But I would expect them to route the Browns. 1100 00:54:43,040 --> 00:54:46,279 Speaker 1: Why not most people do. How can you say that 1101 00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:47,719 Speaker 1: the best team in the league though, when we don't 1102 00:54:47,719 --> 00:54:49,839 Speaker 1: even know who they're running back is this week? That's fair? 1103 00:54:49,920 --> 00:54:51,719 Speaker 1: I mean maybe saying they're the best team in the league. 1104 00:54:52,080 --> 00:54:55,160 Speaker 1: Been playing as well as anyone, and the running game 1105 00:54:55,200 --> 00:54:57,520 Speaker 1: is not going to be as good. So much disrespect 1106 00:54:57,560 --> 00:55:00,360 Speaker 1: for the Carolina Pants on this podcast. That's fair playing 1107 00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:03,240 Speaker 1: the Cardinals. Let's let's be honest though, Like if Marshawn 1108 00:55:03,320 --> 00:55:06,040 Speaker 1: Lynch comes back and is close to Marshall Lynch in 1109 00:55:06,040 --> 00:55:08,960 Speaker 1: Week seventeen, I like their chances against anybody in the league. 1110 00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:12,280 Speaker 1: We all picked the Seahawks UH to win. We also, 1111 00:55:12,320 --> 00:55:14,880 Speaker 1: I don't think I mentioned because we got sidetracked by Starship. 1112 00:55:15,080 --> 00:55:17,719 Speaker 1: We all picked the Steelers as well. Moving on the 1113 00:55:17,760 --> 00:55:21,759 Speaker 1: Carolina Panthers, the team that UH is a former team 1114 00:55:21,760 --> 00:55:24,720 Speaker 1: of a t L but now a team that is disrespected, 1115 00:55:25,160 --> 00:55:27,080 Speaker 1: UH says some. I think there's a lot of there's 1116 00:55:27,120 --> 00:55:29,799 Speaker 1: a healthy amount of respect for the Panthers, but just 1117 00:55:29,840 --> 00:55:32,360 Speaker 1: not in this room. I don't know in the thirteen. 1118 00:55:32,400 --> 00:55:34,000 Speaker 1: You know, I think they're a great team, but it 1119 00:55:34,080 --> 00:55:36,280 Speaker 1: doesn't mean they can't be beaten, is what my opinion. 1120 00:55:36,360 --> 00:55:37,719 Speaker 1: I think there are other teams that are almost as 1121 00:55:37,760 --> 00:55:39,560 Speaker 1: good as them, were just as good. But they're facing 1122 00:55:39,560 --> 00:55:43,200 Speaker 1: the Giants this week at the meadow Lands Um a 1123 00:55:43,320 --> 00:55:45,759 Speaker 1: Giants team that is fighting for its playoff life at 1124 00:55:45,800 --> 00:55:47,560 Speaker 1: six and seven coming off and a win on Monday 1125 00:55:47,680 --> 00:55:51,320 Speaker 1: night in Miami. The Panthers, of course, three wins away 1126 00:55:51,360 --> 00:55:54,480 Speaker 1: from being the second team in NFL history to go 1127 00:55:54,640 --> 00:55:59,120 Speaker 1: sixteen and oh uh, Chris Wesley, Hey, you see this? Well, 1128 00:55:59,160 --> 00:56:01,200 Speaker 1: I'd like to say it. ELI has a history of 1129 00:56:01,200 --> 00:56:03,840 Speaker 1: beating undefeated teams late in the season, and if you 1130 00:56:03,880 --> 00:56:06,040 Speaker 1: have Odell Beckham, you can do anything. But I don't 1131 00:56:06,040 --> 00:56:08,160 Speaker 1: believe that. I think the Panthers are gonna win handily. 1132 00:56:08,440 --> 00:56:12,320 Speaker 1: They do every week. Mark Well, I picked the Giants, 1133 00:56:12,840 --> 00:56:17,560 Speaker 1: and as did I, Buddy boy Well because because for 1134 00:56:17,640 --> 00:56:21,560 Speaker 1: me disrespect towards the Panthers. I'm just I'm rolling the 1135 00:56:21,600 --> 00:56:24,440 Speaker 1: dice number one. But I kind of think that Odell 1136 00:56:24,440 --> 00:56:26,640 Speaker 1: Beckham is the one player that they haven't dealt with 1137 00:56:26,680 --> 00:56:30,680 Speaker 1: this season. You know that could completely change the way 1138 00:56:30,680 --> 00:56:33,280 Speaker 1: this is now. But Greg, you're asking me to logically 1139 00:56:33,320 --> 00:56:35,319 Speaker 1: explain the Giants are a better team. I'm not. I'm 1140 00:56:35,360 --> 00:56:37,720 Speaker 1: just I just went for the upset. The Giants stink 1141 00:56:37,800 --> 00:56:40,480 Speaker 1: in many aspects of what they do. They flat out stink, 1142 00:56:40,640 --> 00:56:42,560 Speaker 1: and if they didn't have Odell Beckham they might have 1143 00:56:42,880 --> 00:56:45,160 Speaker 1: three or four wins. Tops. Right now, he's going against 1144 00:56:45,200 --> 00:56:47,200 Speaker 1: one of the best, one of the best secondaries in 1145 00:56:47,200 --> 00:56:49,879 Speaker 1: the league. And Josh Norman has played five or six 1146 00:56:49,920 --> 00:56:53,200 Speaker 1: of the best wide receivers in the league NFL research 1147 00:56:53,239 --> 00:56:54,640 Speaker 1: at a stat I don't have the names right in 1148 00:56:54,719 --> 00:56:56,200 Speaker 1: front of me then, and he's held them to a 1149 00:56:56,200 --> 00:57:00,919 Speaker 1: total of yards between five big name receivers, Schoolio Jones 1150 00:57:00,920 --> 00:57:05,160 Speaker 1: and Odell Beckham. Yet I think he's different. I think 1151 00:57:05,200 --> 00:57:08,240 Speaker 1: he's in his own league. And I think DeAndre Hopkins 1152 00:57:08,360 --> 00:57:11,319 Speaker 1: had a tweet that he posted briefly on Thursday. I 1153 00:57:11,360 --> 00:57:13,360 Speaker 1: think it was it tweeted at O d B and 1154 00:57:13,400 --> 00:57:15,520 Speaker 1: it was something along the lines of good luck going 1155 00:57:15,600 --> 00:57:17,880 Speaker 1: up against the best cover three corner in the league. 1156 00:57:17,880 --> 00:57:22,760 Speaker 1: So Josh Norman, uh, that smug um is is someone 1157 00:57:22,800 --> 00:57:25,000 Speaker 1: else has thrown out some heat about Josh Norman maybe 1158 00:57:25,000 --> 00:57:26,920 Speaker 1: not being as good as he's being built up to be. 1159 00:57:27,120 --> 00:57:29,640 Speaker 1: Right now, I say, knock on Richard Sherman, who has 1160 00:57:29,640 --> 00:57:32,680 Speaker 1: been an All Pro and two or three years. That's fair. 1161 00:57:32,720 --> 00:57:34,480 Speaker 1: I That's how I look at it, And mine is 1162 00:57:34,520 --> 00:57:36,160 Speaker 1: not even so much of the I know the Giants 1163 00:57:36,520 --> 00:57:39,320 Speaker 1: in their building with Eli and Coughlin. I know that 1164 00:57:39,360 --> 00:57:42,200 Speaker 1: they could rise to the occasion at times and surprise you. 1165 00:57:42,440 --> 00:57:45,200 Speaker 1: And I also think and West, I know you say 1166 00:57:45,240 --> 00:57:48,360 Speaker 1: it a lot. History is instructive that nobody goes undefeated 1167 00:57:48,360 --> 00:57:51,320 Speaker 1: because it's so hard to do. And I just sincerely 1168 00:57:51,360 --> 00:57:53,640 Speaker 1: believe they will get picked off one of these weeks. 1169 00:57:53,880 --> 00:57:55,480 Speaker 1: And why not it be on the road against the 1170 00:57:55,520 --> 00:57:58,640 Speaker 1: team that when everything's clicking, they almost beat the Patriots. 1171 00:57:58,640 --> 00:58:01,040 Speaker 1: When the Patriots are undefeated, they have the best wider 1172 00:58:01,040 --> 00:58:03,240 Speaker 1: student league. It could happen, right and to your point, 1173 00:58:03,280 --> 00:58:07,880 Speaker 1: and when you see these teams got fourteen and oh 1174 00:58:07,960 --> 00:58:10,200 Speaker 1: a lot of times, the loss when it occurs is 1175 00:58:10,240 --> 00:58:12,400 Speaker 1: not the team you would have thought. It is not 1176 00:58:12,520 --> 00:58:14,320 Speaker 1: the best team they played. They get up for that 1177 00:58:14,360 --> 00:58:16,120 Speaker 1: game and they don't. Now the Panthers have gotten up 1178 00:58:16,160 --> 00:58:18,920 Speaker 1: every week, but it usually is an unusual loss that 1179 00:58:18,920 --> 00:58:20,480 Speaker 1: reminds me of the night. This is way back. But 1180 00:58:21,560 --> 00:58:24,840 Speaker 1: the Denver Broncos were thirteen and oh that all ends 1181 00:58:24,880 --> 00:58:27,640 Speaker 1: and lost to the New York Giants. Were before they 1182 00:58:27,640 --> 00:58:30,080 Speaker 1: lost to the Bengals, then they were they were Giants 1183 00:58:30,440 --> 00:58:35,680 Speaker 1: the Chiefs when they started. Are you saying that you're 1184 00:58:35,960 --> 00:58:40,680 Speaker 1: more or less picking the Panthers to just run into 1185 00:58:40,760 --> 00:58:45,040 Speaker 1: a wall, then you are picking the Giants to beat them? Yeah, Like, 1186 00:58:45,160 --> 00:58:47,640 Speaker 1: it's not it's an it's an absurd. It's absurd to 1187 00:58:47,680 --> 00:58:50,000 Speaker 1: pick the Giants from an angle of I'm breaking down 1188 00:58:50,040 --> 00:58:52,600 Speaker 1: the game logically. You know, we make these picks on 1189 00:58:52,720 --> 00:58:58,600 Speaker 1: like ten behind the guy in first place. I'm the 1190 00:58:58,680 --> 00:59:02,760 Speaker 1: man to my right. Just okay, it's tied. The problem. 1191 00:59:02,880 --> 00:59:06,960 Speaker 1: The problem is the Giants and Odell Beckham, Well, you 1192 00:59:07,040 --> 00:59:09,280 Speaker 1: said you said you're the guy in first place, and 1193 00:59:09,320 --> 00:59:11,880 Speaker 1: then you tell me it's tied, So I like that. Yeah, okay, 1194 00:59:11,920 --> 00:59:16,040 Speaker 1: it's that's that's a lesson in smuggle you. I want 1195 00:59:16,080 --> 00:59:18,520 Speaker 1: to just say it again. The Broncos started thirteen and 1196 00:59:19,720 --> 00:59:23,640 Speaker 1: week fifteen defeated by the Giants. This is hocus pocus 1197 00:59:23,880 --> 00:59:26,560 Speaker 1: talk that has nothing to do with this game. Odell 1198 00:59:26,600 --> 00:59:28,600 Speaker 1: Beckham is great, but he's one player. The problem is 1199 00:59:28,640 --> 00:59:30,440 Speaker 1: the Giants defense has to take the field, and the 1200 00:59:30,480 --> 00:59:33,880 Speaker 1: Panther's offense is one of the best offensive league, one 1201 00:59:33,880 --> 00:59:35,840 Speaker 1: of the hottest offenses in the league. And there's no 1202 00:59:35,960 --> 00:59:38,840 Speaker 1: reason to think they're gonna be held under thirty five points. Okay, 1203 00:59:38,840 --> 00:59:41,520 Speaker 1: I'll give you a reason if If there is a reason, 1204 00:59:42,000 --> 00:59:45,200 Speaker 1: Jonathan Stuarts out big reason. So they have. They have 1205 00:59:45,360 --> 00:59:48,240 Speaker 1: a huge gapet running back right now, Fawzy Whittaker, Mike 1206 00:59:48,320 --> 00:59:52,160 Speaker 1: Tolbert and who's the third one. Yeah, none of them 1207 00:59:52,240 --> 00:59:54,560 Speaker 1: have done. I loved, I love Jonathan Stewart, but to me, 1208 00:59:54,720 --> 00:59:57,600 Speaker 1: that running game is the system and it's Cam Newton 1209 00:59:58,160 --> 01:00:00,360 Speaker 1: and it's a very difficult one to de ending. I 1210 01:00:00,400 --> 01:00:02,640 Speaker 1: would expect kind of like the old Broncos teams or 1211 01:00:02,640 --> 01:00:04,280 Speaker 1: whoever that whoever is in there is going to be 1212 01:00:04,320 --> 01:00:07,040 Speaker 1: able to run the ball for the Panthers. The rest 1213 01:00:07,120 --> 01:00:11,200 Speaker 1: of the team, including Connor, Wesley and patra all took 1214 01:00:11,560 --> 01:00:14,920 Speaker 1: the Panther's moving. By the way, it's the first time 1215 01:00:15,000 --> 01:00:17,280 Speaker 1: Connors taking the Panthers all years that right now it's 1216 01:00:17,280 --> 01:00:20,360 Speaker 1: the third time, but third at three out of fourteen, 1217 01:00:20,400 --> 01:00:23,680 Speaker 1: which is not so coincidentally, he's in last place in 1218 01:00:23,720 --> 01:00:27,200 Speaker 1: the statement. The Cincinnati Bengals are back in action, this 1219 01:00:27,320 --> 01:00:30,440 Speaker 1: time without Andy Dalton, who has a fractured thumb. A 1220 01:00:30,520 --> 01:00:34,320 Speaker 1: Jimy Carame will start. They get the San Francisco forty Niners. Uh, 1221 01:00:34,400 --> 01:00:37,480 Speaker 1: this is a game, uh in San Francisco. So the 1222 01:00:37,520 --> 01:00:40,000 Speaker 1: Bengals need to go on the road here and steady 1223 01:00:40,080 --> 01:00:41,960 Speaker 1: the ship. I mean, when you look at the a 1224 01:00:42,120 --> 01:00:45,640 Speaker 1: f C North, Greg, you got Cincinnati a tenant three, 1225 01:00:46,000 --> 01:00:49,479 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh two games behind them. You know the way Pittsburgh's playing, 1226 01:00:49,480 --> 01:00:51,360 Speaker 1: you want to be shocked if they won out. So 1227 01:00:51,480 --> 01:00:54,160 Speaker 1: Cincinnati's gotta win a couple of these games. Potentially gotta 1228 01:00:54,200 --> 01:00:57,520 Speaker 1: start right here, right, that's true. But if you use 1229 01:00:57,600 --> 01:01:01,440 Speaker 1: the playoff predictor on NFL dot Com, you find that 1230 01:01:01,600 --> 01:01:04,600 Speaker 1: Bengals are gonna win almost any tiebreak. So really they 1231 01:01:04,680 --> 01:01:06,920 Speaker 1: probably just with the Steelers win a game. They just 1232 01:01:07,120 --> 01:01:08,960 Speaker 1: have to win a game unless something crazy. But if 1233 01:01:08,960 --> 01:01:11,080 Speaker 1: they win a conference game one of their last two 1234 01:01:11,120 --> 01:01:14,320 Speaker 1: times game, it's absolutely clinched and there's there's no problem. 1235 01:01:14,400 --> 01:01:16,240 Speaker 1: But even all they have to do is win this game. 1236 01:01:16,320 --> 01:01:18,000 Speaker 1: And I think this is a great top to bottom team, 1237 01:01:18,000 --> 01:01:19,960 Speaker 1: and I think AJ McCarron showed more last week than 1238 01:01:20,040 --> 01:01:23,280 Speaker 1: we expected, four or five really nice throws down the field. 1239 01:01:23,320 --> 01:01:26,000 Speaker 1: Also made some mistakes, but he just needs to be okay. 1240 01:01:26,120 --> 01:01:29,240 Speaker 1: He just needs to be Brock Oswiler level of play, 1241 01:01:29,560 --> 01:01:31,240 Speaker 1: and the rest of that team can win it for him. 1242 01:01:31,400 --> 01:01:33,920 Speaker 1: Would be nice if he had Tyler Eiffort, but Eiffort 1243 01:01:33,960 --> 01:01:37,200 Speaker 1: is still not practicing as a Thursday with that concussion. Mark, 1244 01:01:37,200 --> 01:01:38,840 Speaker 1: I'll throw it back to you again because you got 1245 01:01:38,920 --> 01:01:41,760 Speaker 1: a hero pick here. The San Francisco forty Niners are 1246 01:01:41,800 --> 01:01:45,000 Speaker 1: gonna knock off since I did not pick the forty Niners. 1247 01:01:45,840 --> 01:01:48,040 Speaker 1: Him looking at it, well, I'm going to correct that. 1248 01:01:48,160 --> 01:01:50,760 Speaker 1: That's absurd. There's no way I think he did that 1249 01:01:50,880 --> 01:01:54,440 Speaker 1: on NFL now, so it doesn't count, Mark, I do 1250 01:01:54,560 --> 01:01:59,439 Speaker 1: not anymore. You can throw it to me. But here's 1251 01:01:59,440 --> 01:02:01,520 Speaker 1: what I will tell you that if you're a J McCarron, 1252 01:02:02,040 --> 01:02:04,760 Speaker 1: this is the perfect way you want to start what 1253 01:02:05,080 --> 01:02:07,560 Speaker 1: is this run towards the playoffs in replacement of Andy 1254 01:02:07,640 --> 01:02:10,360 Speaker 1: Dalton right now? Because this is a forty Niners team 1255 01:02:10,400 --> 01:02:14,320 Speaker 1: that just got outclassed and whacked by the Browns, and 1256 01:02:14,640 --> 01:02:16,960 Speaker 1: there's really no I know that we were saying, oh, 1257 01:02:17,040 --> 01:02:19,280 Speaker 1: the forty Niners are better at home. Well, they're not 1258 01:02:19,400 --> 01:02:21,280 Speaker 1: that much better at home. They're not good enough at 1259 01:02:21,280 --> 01:02:23,240 Speaker 1: home to be a good team on any level. And 1260 01:02:23,360 --> 01:02:24,840 Speaker 1: if you just want to look at the talent on 1261 01:02:24,960 --> 01:02:27,400 Speaker 1: both sides of the ball, there is no reason to 1262 01:02:27,480 --> 01:02:29,560 Speaker 1: think that the forty Niners are gonna take care of business. 1263 01:02:29,600 --> 01:02:32,160 Speaker 1: They give me friskey, but they're not gonna win the 1264 01:02:32,200 --> 01:02:35,160 Speaker 1: game in Arizona. Learned that they barely beat them. I mean, 1265 01:02:35,480 --> 01:02:38,120 Speaker 1: I mean, this is a team Serrancisco obviously flawed, but 1266 01:02:38,240 --> 01:02:40,800 Speaker 1: with Cincinnati in a in a tough spot right now, 1267 01:02:40,880 --> 01:02:44,240 Speaker 1: this could be a game, right lindsay, yeah, I mean 1268 01:02:45,680 --> 01:02:48,480 Speaker 1: sound convinced. Well, no, I mean on paper, there's it's 1269 01:02:48,520 --> 01:02:50,560 Speaker 1: like it's like you said, with the Giants and the Panthers, 1270 01:02:50,640 --> 01:02:52,840 Speaker 1: It's like, there's no real reason to think that the 1271 01:02:53,200 --> 01:02:55,880 Speaker 1: Niners would be able to beat the Bengals. But weird 1272 01:02:56,000 --> 01:02:58,000 Speaker 1: things happen in the NFL, and so because of the 1273 01:02:58,080 --> 01:03:00,320 Speaker 1: Agent mccarren factor, you kind of go, maybe this might 1274 01:03:00,360 --> 01:03:02,000 Speaker 1: be a little bit closer. This might be one of 1275 01:03:02,040 --> 01:03:03,720 Speaker 1: those upset games that at the end of the weekend 1276 01:03:03,760 --> 01:03:05,440 Speaker 1: you can how did that happen? He just gave up 1277 01:03:05,520 --> 01:03:09,240 Speaker 1: nine sacks to the Browns. And this Bengals defensive line 1278 01:03:09,560 --> 01:03:11,400 Speaker 1: is one of the best in the league. And if 1279 01:03:11,440 --> 01:03:14,080 Speaker 1: we just did the front four in terms of Dunlap, Atkins, 1280 01:03:14,520 --> 01:03:17,240 Speaker 1: Peco and Michael Johnson, I mean, it's got to be 1281 01:03:17,280 --> 01:03:19,000 Speaker 1: a top three or four. I mean they should they 1282 01:03:19,040 --> 01:03:20,680 Speaker 1: should just take care of business. So I will say 1283 01:03:20,720 --> 01:03:23,720 Speaker 1: this at they gave up about two hundred and thirty 1284 01:03:23,800 --> 01:03:26,320 Speaker 1: yards rushing to the Browns, and the Browns hadn't had 1285 01:03:26,360 --> 01:03:28,840 Speaker 1: a running back run for more than fifty yards in 1286 01:03:28,880 --> 01:03:32,120 Speaker 1: a game since like Week three or four. So that's 1287 01:03:32,160 --> 01:03:34,120 Speaker 1: the other strength. If you're a G McCarron, you can 1288 01:03:34,200 --> 01:03:36,360 Speaker 1: give the ball to your diverse backfield and have them 1289 01:03:36,400 --> 01:03:38,880 Speaker 1: just gallop around all day. Forty Niners might be playing 1290 01:03:38,920 --> 01:03:41,560 Speaker 1: with chip on the shoulder after I would love to 1291 01:03:41,600 --> 01:03:47,080 Speaker 1: see them gallop After Mike Petton basically questioned their effort 1292 01:03:47,360 --> 01:03:49,880 Speaker 1: last week, I think the forty Niners might have miton 1293 01:03:49,960 --> 01:03:51,720 Speaker 1: to play for Mike Pttons just popping off like a 1294 01:03:51,760 --> 01:03:54,640 Speaker 1: guy who knows he's well's got to calm down. He 1295 01:03:54,760 --> 01:03:58,200 Speaker 1: does need to calm down. Jeem christ Uh said, you know, 1296 01:03:58,400 --> 01:04:00,240 Speaker 1: he didn't like the idea that Petton was show minding 1297 01:04:00,320 --> 01:04:03,120 Speaker 1: his star. I think was the expression at the expense 1298 01:04:03,160 --> 01:04:05,280 Speaker 1: of the Niners because they finally won a game after 1299 01:04:05,400 --> 01:04:07,760 Speaker 1: getting out class for a week upon week, weeks upon weeks. 1300 01:04:07,840 --> 01:04:11,440 Speaker 1: So you know, Mike, come back to us, buddy, and 1301 01:04:11,560 --> 01:04:14,720 Speaker 1: where's the Mike Francisa come back to us. That's fair, dog, 1302 01:04:15,280 --> 01:04:19,760 Speaker 1: Lindsay Rhodes, that's fair dog. You've done it again. What 1303 01:04:19,920 --> 01:04:22,680 Speaker 1: else can be said? You are the host of NFL 1304 01:04:22,720 --> 01:04:30,320 Speaker 1: Network's flagship program. I'm a fan, and let's not let's 1305 01:04:30,360 --> 01:04:33,960 Speaker 1: not underplay that. I mean. That means Lindsay has reached 1306 01:04:34,000 --> 01:04:37,960 Speaker 1: the summit of NFL Network programming. So you should be 1307 01:04:38,040 --> 01:04:44,360 Speaker 1: proud of yourself in that's Holiday season seven. Lindsay Rhns, 1308 01:04:44,360 --> 01:04:46,240 Speaker 1: thank you very much. You're the best and we will 1309 01:04:46,280 --> 01:04:48,520 Speaker 1: see you, I guess on the other maybe on the 1310 01:04:48,560 --> 01:04:50,680 Speaker 1: other side of the new year soon, hopefully, because you 1311 01:04:50,760 --> 01:04:53,680 Speaker 1: are a close friend of the show. All right, thanks 1312 01:04:53,960 --> 01:04:57,440 Speaker 1: thanks for having me, guys. All right, thank you to 1313 01:04:57,680 --> 01:04:59,920 Speaker 1: Lindsay Rhodes for stopping by. But we have more showed 1314 01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:03,080 Speaker 1: to do, guys. Let's move on. The Miami Dolphins head 1315 01:05:03,400 --> 01:05:06,560 Speaker 1: to San Diego to face the Chargers in what Yes 1316 01:05:06,680 --> 01:05:14,000 Speaker 1: sadly could be the final game uh at Qualcom Field 1317 01:05:14,760 --> 01:05:18,600 Speaker 1: Stadium stadium in San Diego. A great a great town, 1318 01:05:18,760 --> 01:05:21,240 Speaker 1: San Diego. Not a great stadium out there, that's a dump. 1319 01:05:21,600 --> 01:05:25,080 Speaker 1: But hopefully the Chargers stick around in San Diego. But 1320 01:05:25,160 --> 01:05:27,240 Speaker 1: if they don't, this is it and I might have 1321 01:05:27,360 --> 01:05:30,600 Speaker 1: to on Sunday, um, you know, honor that occasion or 1322 01:05:30,680 --> 01:05:33,439 Speaker 1: show some respect with a rendition of a certain song. 1323 01:05:33,520 --> 01:05:36,000 Speaker 1: But will UH cross that bridge when we get to it. 1324 01:05:36,120 --> 01:05:38,000 Speaker 1: As for now, this game, this is a game between 1325 01:05:38,480 --> 01:05:40,680 Speaker 1: a three and ten team and the five and eight team, 1326 01:05:40,760 --> 01:05:44,640 Speaker 1: neither going to the playoffs. Not much to get excited about. 1327 01:05:44,680 --> 01:05:46,880 Speaker 1: The one good news if you're a Chargers fan is 1328 01:05:47,160 --> 01:05:49,480 Speaker 1: this game will not be flooded with Dolphins fans because 1329 01:05:49,520 --> 01:05:52,680 Speaker 1: Dolphins fans probably checked out on the season as the 1330 01:05:52,760 --> 01:05:55,360 Speaker 1: San Diego and they struggle a little bit to fill 1331 01:05:55,440 --> 01:05:57,840 Speaker 1: up their home stadium or defended. There was a lot 1332 01:05:57,880 --> 01:06:01,680 Speaker 1: of Giants fans there in Miami on Monday night. It 1333 01:06:01,800 --> 01:06:04,560 Speaker 1: will be a really interesting game. We're gonna send one 1334 01:06:04,640 --> 01:06:08,880 Speaker 1: of our desk staffers and occasional around the NFL writer, 1335 01:06:09,360 --> 01:06:15,280 Speaker 1: Andrea hey Couman. We call her Andy Spyline Lee. So 1336 01:06:15,480 --> 01:06:19,080 Speaker 1: she'll be down there, and I find it interesting just 1337 01:06:19,200 --> 01:06:21,560 Speaker 1: to see, like what what happens at this game in 1338 01:06:21,680 --> 01:06:24,240 Speaker 1: terms of the fans and just what the scene is like, 1339 01:06:24,480 --> 01:06:27,080 Speaker 1: because it's an I know, there's not a ton of 1340 01:06:27,200 --> 01:06:29,680 Speaker 1: Chargers fans compared to some fan bases, but it's gonna 1341 01:06:29,680 --> 01:06:32,240 Speaker 1: be an emotional thing. This is a franchise that's had 1342 01:06:33,040 --> 01:06:35,760 Speaker 1: a lot of you know, fun times, a lot of 1343 01:06:35,800 --> 01:06:38,840 Speaker 1: success in the seventies, certainly with Schottenheimer, also in the 1344 01:06:38,880 --> 01:06:41,320 Speaker 1: two thousands and and this could be it. It's just 1345 01:06:41,400 --> 01:06:44,440 Speaker 1: gonna be a strange, interesting scene. Andy on the pod 1346 01:06:44,560 --> 01:06:47,040 Speaker 1: to talk about it. I think we're planning to do 1347 01:06:47,120 --> 01:06:49,600 Speaker 1: according to her available Now, do Greg, do you see 1348 01:06:49,960 --> 01:06:53,640 Speaker 1: a duplicate scene of when Cleveland left and fans were 1349 01:06:53,720 --> 01:06:56,960 Speaker 1: crying and ripping the dog pound bleachers out and throwing 1350 01:06:57,000 --> 01:06:58,400 Speaker 1: them on the field, or is it gonna be a 1351 01:06:58,480 --> 01:07:00,840 Speaker 1: little more Monday in the that in your book. I 1352 01:07:00,880 --> 01:07:03,080 Speaker 1: don't think it would be like that anyways. But it's 1353 01:07:03,120 --> 01:07:05,120 Speaker 1: not a fair comparison because we don't know that the 1354 01:07:05,240 --> 01:07:07,760 Speaker 1: Chargers are leaving or not. If they had announced that 1355 01:07:07,920 --> 01:07:09,800 Speaker 1: that we have if they had announced at the beginning 1356 01:07:09,800 --> 01:07:11,600 Speaker 1: of the season that the Charger or midway through the 1357 01:07:11,640 --> 01:07:14,040 Speaker 1: season that the Chargers are going to Los Angeles. I 1358 01:07:14,080 --> 01:07:15,880 Speaker 1: think the scene would be a lot different than it is, 1359 01:07:16,080 --> 01:07:18,360 Speaker 1: which is just confusing at this point. I feel for them. 1360 01:07:18,400 --> 01:07:20,480 Speaker 1: I mean, I know we all live close enough where 1361 01:07:20,480 --> 01:07:22,080 Speaker 1: you know a couple of people down there, and I 1362 01:07:22,160 --> 01:07:24,840 Speaker 1: know some hardcore Chargers fans, and I just think the 1363 01:07:24,880 --> 01:07:27,200 Speaker 1: fan base has been yanked around for a long time 1364 01:07:27,240 --> 01:07:29,360 Speaker 1: as it is, and it's a bad way to put 1365 01:07:29,400 --> 01:07:32,000 Speaker 1: an exclaplation point on it. They've been in San Diego 1366 01:07:32,080 --> 01:07:34,280 Speaker 1: for fifty five years, which is longer than the Browns 1367 01:07:34,320 --> 01:07:38,080 Speaker 1: were in Cleveland when moved to Baltimore. I mean, and 1368 01:07:38,160 --> 01:07:41,080 Speaker 1: this is a team with a championship history in the 1369 01:07:41,160 --> 01:07:45,120 Speaker 1: A f l uh sid Gilman, I don't know it's a. 1370 01:07:45,200 --> 01:07:48,080 Speaker 1: It's A. But it's also I don't quite buy it's 1371 01:07:48,120 --> 01:07:50,520 Speaker 1: their last game. That's the thing. We we've been talking 1372 01:07:50,560 --> 01:07:52,080 Speaker 1: about l A in the NFL, and I know that 1373 01:07:52,200 --> 01:07:54,160 Speaker 1: momentum is different, but I don't really buy it's the 1374 01:07:54,240 --> 01:07:57,200 Speaker 1: last game at this huge coming up in January. Well 1375 01:07:57,320 --> 01:07:59,960 Speaker 1: that's gonna dictate because I think there's a chance it's 1376 01:08:00,040 --> 01:08:02,360 Speaker 1: the last game, but it might, doesn't It start to 1377 01:08:02,360 --> 01:08:04,360 Speaker 1: feel like some of the buzz around this, this the 1378 01:08:04,440 --> 01:08:06,920 Speaker 1: moving to l a stuff starting to feel like it's 1379 01:08:06,920 --> 01:08:09,400 Speaker 1: not gonna happen next year. Yeah, I think there's a 1380 01:08:09,480 --> 01:08:10,960 Speaker 1: lot of people that feel that it's going to be 1381 01:08:11,040 --> 01:08:13,680 Speaker 1: and it needs another year of discussion. Because these owners 1382 01:08:13,760 --> 01:08:18,200 Speaker 1: aren't knee jerks. I think it's almost become a paralysis 1383 01:08:18,240 --> 01:08:22,160 Speaker 1: by analysis situation where they know how important this is. Well, 1384 01:08:22,200 --> 01:08:24,240 Speaker 1: we'll see. By the way, I just changed my pick 1385 01:08:24,320 --> 01:08:26,880 Speaker 1: in real time because I kind of forgot about the 1386 01:08:27,000 --> 01:08:29,640 Speaker 1: the Chargers and could be their last game. I think 1387 01:08:29,720 --> 01:08:31,880 Speaker 1: that will be something the team will get behind a 1388 01:08:31,920 --> 01:08:33,320 Speaker 1: little bit and the fans will be a little more 1389 01:08:33,320 --> 01:08:36,240 Speaker 1: amped up potentially. I like the Chargers as do Mark 1390 01:08:36,320 --> 01:08:39,760 Speaker 1: and Connor West and Patribal took the Finns. I think 1391 01:08:39,800 --> 01:08:42,320 Speaker 1: Philip Rivers and some of those players will be emotional, 1392 01:08:42,439 --> 01:08:45,040 Speaker 1: he said. He he expects it to be emotional. So 1393 01:08:45,120 --> 01:08:47,639 Speaker 1: I think a guy like a guy like Rivers, Gates 1394 01:08:47,760 --> 01:08:50,080 Speaker 1: and Floyd, who have been teammates for longer than any 1395 01:08:50,160 --> 01:08:52,479 Speaker 1: trio of teammates in NFL history. I mean, they're gonna, 1396 01:08:52,680 --> 01:08:54,840 Speaker 1: they're gonna, they're gonna be going out there and trying 1397 01:08:54,880 --> 01:08:56,680 Speaker 1: to win this. I'd be emotional if I had eight 1398 01:08:56,760 --> 01:08:58,880 Speaker 1: children and how to move them. That sounds like a 1399 01:08:59,000 --> 01:09:03,200 Speaker 1: long offseason process and sort of a headache. Moving on, 1400 01:09:03,640 --> 01:09:12,280 Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals, the team of around the NFL. Thank you. 1401 01:09:12,439 --> 01:09:16,280 Speaker 1: They are traveling to Philadelphia to face the Eagles. Listen, 1402 01:09:16,360 --> 01:09:19,400 Speaker 1: whenever you can get to first place teams battling it out, 1403 01:09:19,680 --> 01:09:21,360 Speaker 1: you got a classic on your hands. You you know, 1404 01:09:21,520 --> 01:09:27,000 Speaker 1: tell me I'm wrong? What am I wrong? There's nothing 1405 01:09:27,040 --> 01:09:29,559 Speaker 1: about this Eagles team that screams classic to me. Well, 1406 01:09:29,640 --> 01:09:33,679 Speaker 1: first place is correct? Are you do the Eagles still 1407 01:09:33,760 --> 01:09:38,120 Speaker 1: interest you in terms of the whole the Chip Kelly 1408 01:09:38,200 --> 01:09:41,800 Speaker 1: experience and maybe believing that they can still be that 1409 01:09:41,920 --> 01:09:43,960 Speaker 1: team that he thinks they are. Are we completely done 1410 01:09:44,000 --> 01:09:48,080 Speaker 1: with this Eagles team? For me? The fun thing um 1411 01:09:49,680 --> 01:09:52,160 Speaker 1: getting behind the idea of Chip Kelly being exposed to 1412 01:09:52,240 --> 01:09:56,000 Speaker 1: someone that's not going to revolutionize the game. That's too easy. Now, 1413 01:09:56,280 --> 01:09:58,599 Speaker 1: so I've lost my joy of rooting against the Eagles. 1414 01:09:58,960 --> 01:10:00,960 Speaker 1: So now just look at them objectively as a team 1415 01:10:01,000 --> 01:10:03,280 Speaker 1: that's not very good and one that's probably gonna get 1416 01:10:03,320 --> 01:10:05,720 Speaker 1: waxed by superior team. And yeah, I would say that 1417 01:10:05,800 --> 01:10:08,240 Speaker 1: connor Or has proven to be more you know, out 1418 01:10:08,320 --> 01:10:12,760 Speaker 1: there with his schemes and team building processes and Chip Kelly, well, 1419 01:10:12,800 --> 01:10:14,680 Speaker 1: you're talking about the Portland River Hog. Yeah, I mean 1420 01:10:14,760 --> 01:10:17,559 Speaker 1: Connor is a revolutionary and thought he makes Chip Kelly 1421 01:10:17,640 --> 01:10:20,400 Speaker 1: look like well, Doug marone friend. I really hope some 1422 01:10:20,520 --> 01:10:23,760 Speaker 1: of our listeners tweeted at Nile Davis to congratulate him, 1423 01:10:23,920 --> 01:10:26,519 Speaker 1: because that would be even more confusing than all our 1424 01:10:26,640 --> 01:10:30,759 Speaker 1: our Twitter users that tweeted Gary Barnage about his British roots. 1425 01:10:31,280 --> 01:10:34,280 Speaker 1: I think this would be even more confusing because now 1426 01:10:34,400 --> 01:10:37,160 Speaker 1: Davis would actually think something had happened. He's maybe playing 1427 01:10:37,200 --> 01:10:41,680 Speaker 1: in the some type of arena league. I think this 1428 01:10:41,800 --> 01:10:44,720 Speaker 1: Eagles team is more interesting still than the rest of 1429 01:10:44,840 --> 01:10:48,640 Speaker 1: the NFC East. Sam Bradford has not played particularly well, 1430 01:10:48,720 --> 01:10:50,400 Speaker 1: and I think West You're right when you say people 1431 01:10:50,400 --> 01:10:53,320 Speaker 1: are just looking for reasons to get behind him. But 1432 01:10:53,439 --> 01:10:55,719 Speaker 1: if if nothing else, that DeMarco Murray in the running 1433 01:10:55,760 --> 01:10:59,160 Speaker 1: back situation is interesting to watch. Fletcher Cox is playing 1434 01:10:59,240 --> 01:11:01,519 Speaker 1: really well. I I do feel like they're capable of 1435 01:11:01,640 --> 01:11:04,720 Speaker 1: having a better game, a better best game as a 1436 01:11:04,800 --> 01:11:07,120 Speaker 1: team than the Giants or the Redskins. I don't think 1437 01:11:07,120 --> 01:11:09,559 Speaker 1: they'll be that competitive or win this game against the Cardinals. 1438 01:11:09,800 --> 01:11:11,679 Speaker 1: But I think if they could somehow get into the playoffs, 1439 01:11:11,720 --> 01:11:14,720 Speaker 1: they'd be a little little frisky maybe, I mean not. 1440 01:11:15,160 --> 01:11:17,560 Speaker 1: I just think there's a better chance that would have 1441 01:11:17,680 --> 01:11:20,599 Speaker 1: a frisky game. I can't think of anything interesting about 1442 01:11:20,680 --> 01:11:24,040 Speaker 1: this team. I mean, you're you think that DeMarco Murray 1443 01:11:24,160 --> 01:11:26,160 Speaker 1: situation is interesting, But he's just not a very good 1444 01:11:26,200 --> 01:11:29,120 Speaker 1: football player this year, right, I mean that's not interesting 1445 01:11:29,200 --> 01:11:32,720 Speaker 1: to me. Conro are no longer picks against the Panthers, 1446 01:11:32,840 --> 01:11:36,240 Speaker 1: but now he has picked against the Cardinals. Uh, you know, 1447 01:11:36,439 --> 01:11:39,120 Speaker 1: quite a around the NFL. Sin to pick the Eagles 1448 01:11:39,160 --> 01:11:41,400 Speaker 1: to beat the card again a revolutionary maybe, you know, 1449 01:11:41,600 --> 01:11:44,360 Speaker 1: the one who needs to be thinking more clearly about things. 1450 01:11:44,479 --> 01:11:47,400 Speaker 1: But well, he's busy. I mean he's moving the entire franchise, 1451 01:11:47,479 --> 01:11:51,439 Speaker 1: breaking hearts, bankrupting the city of Portland. Key, Portland's weird, 1452 01:11:51,479 --> 01:11:56,880 Speaker 1: and I's gonna keep Portland's bankrupt. Bad job, connerful Man, Yeah, 1453 01:11:57,720 --> 01:12:03,000 Speaker 1: he's very powerful. Yes for Connor, we all picked the Cardinals. Finally, 1454 01:12:03,120 --> 01:12:07,960 Speaker 1: Monday Night football is a matchup between the Detroit Lions 1455 01:12:09,160 --> 01:12:12,840 Speaker 1: and the New Orleans Saints. The ESPN lose a bet, 1456 01:12:13,560 --> 01:12:15,960 Speaker 1: I mean, this is well, who there's only one man 1457 01:12:16,040 --> 01:12:19,080 Speaker 1: that can make this game interesting. Dan, Oh, yeah, mom man, 1458 01:12:19,240 --> 01:12:23,160 Speaker 1: Mikey Tarrico. Mike's gonna give you everything he got, That's 1459 01:12:23,160 --> 01:12:25,720 Speaker 1: all I know. And Gruden's gonna be grinding and he'll 1460 01:12:25,760 --> 01:12:27,960 Speaker 1: do a nice job. But he's a Michigan guy to Rico. 1461 01:12:28,040 --> 01:12:30,519 Speaker 1: And I think you could tell it. Patrick really pointed 1462 01:12:30,560 --> 01:12:32,160 Speaker 1: this out, but you could hear it in his voice 1463 01:12:32,200 --> 01:12:34,080 Speaker 1: in that Monday night game where the Lions lost in 1464 01:12:34,120 --> 01:12:38,040 Speaker 1: Seattle's little interesting, that's true. You gotta get to Rico 1465 01:12:38,160 --> 01:12:41,439 Speaker 1: in here. He won't because ESPN doesn't allow such things. 1466 01:12:41,560 --> 01:12:44,800 Speaker 1: Not a lot of cross pollination between NFL Network and ESPN. 1467 01:12:44,880 --> 01:12:48,160 Speaker 1: And he's probably afraid of you at this point, probably 1468 01:12:49,120 --> 01:12:54,799 Speaker 1: local corporate giants afraid to cross pollinate. Anybody have anything 1469 01:12:54,840 --> 01:12:57,200 Speaker 1: to say about this game because I don't know. I 1470 01:12:57,640 --> 01:13:00,479 Speaker 1: watch every prime time game but this and it will 1471 01:13:00,479 --> 01:13:02,200 Speaker 1: be one where I might be like on the laptop 1472 01:13:02,280 --> 01:13:04,160 Speaker 1: doing it. Well, you want to talk about last It 1473 01:13:04,240 --> 01:13:06,880 Speaker 1: might be the last time you ever see the pairing 1474 01:13:06,920 --> 01:13:10,479 Speaker 1: of Drew Brees and Sean Payton on primetime. Hm, that's 1475 01:13:10,520 --> 01:13:15,880 Speaker 1: not enough. Let's let's talk about that. They have been well, yeah, 1476 01:13:15,920 --> 01:13:17,439 Speaker 1: you think it might be a little Willie Beam and 1477 01:13:17,479 --> 01:13:19,559 Speaker 1: Al Pacino at the end of any given Sunday where 1478 01:13:19,600 --> 01:13:21,920 Speaker 1: they go to another team together. That's interesting. But I 1479 01:13:22,080 --> 01:13:27,479 Speaker 1: I Saints have to do a complete rebuild and ditch 1480 01:13:27,560 --> 01:13:29,760 Speaker 1: Drew Drew Brees if they get rid of you. No, 1481 01:13:29,840 --> 01:13:32,000 Speaker 1: I don't think that. I think that Sean Payton is 1482 01:13:32,080 --> 01:13:34,400 Speaker 1: out the door. I don't think they have to. But 1483 01:13:34,680 --> 01:13:37,080 Speaker 1: he's there. He's gonna be thirty seven years old. He 1484 01:13:37,240 --> 01:13:39,960 Speaker 1: still has plenty of value because he's playing well. He's 1485 01:13:40,000 --> 01:13:42,960 Speaker 1: doing twenty million dollars next year and it's the last 1486 01:13:43,040 --> 01:13:46,680 Speaker 1: year of his contract. So trade high. I still kind 1487 01:13:46,720 --> 01:13:49,240 Speaker 1: of doubt it because he's Drew Brees. But if there 1488 01:13:49,320 --> 01:13:51,439 Speaker 1: was ever a time to trade him, you can still 1489 01:13:51,479 --> 01:13:53,519 Speaker 1: probably get a first round pick or whatever it's gonna 1490 01:13:53,560 --> 01:13:55,960 Speaker 1: be for Drewes plus Sean Payton. When was the last 1491 01:13:56,000 --> 01:14:00,519 Speaker 1: time a franchise quarterback was traded in his prime? Donovan 1492 01:14:00,600 --> 01:14:05,360 Speaker 1: McNabb was passed. It wasn't he was released. Yeah, it 1493 01:14:05,400 --> 01:14:08,560 Speaker 1: doesn't happen. I mean, teams just don't trade franchise quarterbacks. 1494 01:14:09,120 --> 01:14:11,320 Speaker 1: You're right not to mention one who brought the team, 1495 01:14:11,800 --> 01:14:16,439 Speaker 1: you know, their first Super Bowl cheape back. I think 1496 01:14:16,479 --> 01:14:18,680 Speaker 1: it is it's not the right move if you if 1497 01:14:18,720 --> 01:14:22,040 Speaker 1: you lose Sean Payton and there's ten vacancies come January, 1498 01:14:22,040 --> 01:14:24,360 Speaker 1: you need to attract the next coach. Oh, by the way, 1499 01:14:25,280 --> 01:14:27,360 Speaker 1: come on to come on down in New Orleans where 1500 01:14:27,360 --> 01:14:30,360 Speaker 1: you don't have Drew Brees anymore. You've got what Garrett Grayson, whoever, 1501 01:14:30,560 --> 01:14:33,000 Speaker 1: Luke McCown. But that's what you gotta believe in your 1502 01:14:33,040 --> 01:14:36,120 Speaker 1: front office's ability to sell the franchise. I mean, I 1503 01:14:36,200 --> 01:14:39,960 Speaker 1: don't know it's your Your GM works for the Pelicans, 1504 01:14:40,080 --> 01:14:42,479 Speaker 1: so there's another selling point team to turn around in 1505 01:14:42,560 --> 01:14:46,200 Speaker 1: one year. All the time in the NFL, yeah, I know, 1506 01:14:46,880 --> 01:14:48,720 Speaker 1: you know it's a little random for a team that's 1507 01:14:48,720 --> 01:14:50,760 Speaker 1: going nowhere. But the Tim Hightower story, I think is 1508 01:14:50,840 --> 01:14:52,360 Speaker 1: one of the better ones. The guy that got a 1509 01:14:52,400 --> 01:14:56,080 Speaker 1: football for four years, running his ass off last week, 1510 01:14:56,120 --> 01:14:58,280 Speaker 1: I mean he was, he was running hard. I don't 1511 01:14:58,280 --> 01:15:00,400 Speaker 1: think he's not the most talented guy in the league anymore. 1512 01:15:00,439 --> 01:15:02,560 Speaker 1: But to be out four years and you've got a 1513 01:15:02,600 --> 01:15:05,200 Speaker 1: guy who's making seven times as much on the bench 1514 01:15:05,280 --> 01:15:07,760 Speaker 1: and High Tower is closing out the Bucks and what 1515 01:15:07,920 --> 01:15:09,439 Speaker 1: was a big game for Tampa. I mean they just 1516 01:15:09,600 --> 01:15:11,880 Speaker 1: handed the ball to Tim Hightower over and over and 1517 01:15:11,920 --> 01:15:13,240 Speaker 1: he wins that game. For him, it was a it 1518 01:15:13,280 --> 01:15:16,719 Speaker 1: was a cool story. He was definitely joining it owns 1519 01:15:16,800 --> 01:15:20,680 Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals rookie record for most touchdowns. Dan Tim 1520 01:15:20,760 --> 01:15:22,680 Speaker 1: High Tower. That enough for you to tune in on 1521 01:15:22,800 --> 01:15:25,120 Speaker 1: Monday night. Yep, now he got me High Tower. I 1522 01:15:25,320 --> 01:15:29,439 Speaker 1: liked Greg's like Seganto hot butt talk. He's been sold. 1523 01:15:30,920 --> 01:15:35,559 Speaker 1: But with Tim high Tower, that's it. We all picked 1524 01:15:35,600 --> 01:15:37,880 Speaker 1: the Saints to win the game. Those are all the 1525 01:15:38,000 --> 01:15:42,400 Speaker 1: games coming up on Sunday and Monday and Saturday. Lout 1526 01:15:42,560 --> 01:15:45,519 Speaker 1: NFL Action. We will be back on Sunday night with 1527 01:15:45,640 --> 01:15:49,360 Speaker 1: our flagship show, UH, the Sunday Night Show where we 1528 01:15:49,439 --> 01:15:51,680 Speaker 1: break down all the results of these games, so make 1529 01:15:51,720 --> 01:15:55,439 Speaker 1: sure you check that out. It's also on YouTube UH 1530 01:15:55,520 --> 01:15:59,240 Speaker 1: and NFL Now. So thank you everyone for listening. As 1531 01:15:59,320 --> 01:16:02,120 Speaker 1: we get closer to the end of the regular season, 1532 01:16:02,200 --> 01:16:05,400 Speaker 1: we're getting there. Um so here we go. That's it. 1533 01:16:05,640 --> 01:16:09,559 Speaker 1: This is Dan Hansas. Thank you to Lindsay Rhodes signing 1534 01:16:09,600 --> 01:16:17,040 Speaker 1: off for the Mailman, the Sizzler, the Boss and La 1535 01:16:17,120 --> 01:16:43,040 Speaker 1: Side behind the Glass. Until Sunday m