1 00:00:00,920 --> 00:00:05,160 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Action Network Podcast, the number one show 2 00:00:05,280 --> 00:00:06,920 Speaker 1: for the invested sports fan. 3 00:00:09,680 --> 00:00:10,400 Speaker 2: All right, here we go. 4 00:00:12,119 --> 00:00:12,399 Speaker 3: Throwing. 5 00:00:15,080 --> 00:00:16,280 Speaker 2: We're sitting up to cash. 6 00:00:17,920 --> 00:00:20,920 Speaker 4: We'll see most gamblers when they go to gamble, they 7 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:22,279 Speaker 4: go to wind. 8 00:00:22,400 --> 00:00:25,760 Speaker 2: That's incredible. Big bank, small bank. 9 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:28,400 Speaker 3: I like to make money. All right, this is the 10 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:30,600 Speaker 3: ultimate kabar want to pull. 11 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:36,159 Speaker 2: And we are underway. 12 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:40,760 Speaker 4: Welcome to the Action Network Podcast. This is the Week 13 00:00:40,880 --> 00:00:45,080 Speaker 4: nine NFL Betting Edition. I am Chris Raybond and on 14 00:00:45,120 --> 00:00:48,120 Speaker 4: today's show, as usual, we will be breaking down our 15 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:50,680 Speaker 4: top spread bets of the week. 16 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:51,800 Speaker 3: In the NFL. 17 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:54,440 Speaker 4: In the Sunday six pack, we will also give you 18 00:00:54,480 --> 00:00:58,040 Speaker 4: our favorite over underpick of the week, our favorite teaser 19 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:04,800 Speaker 4: money line, under parlay, and Survivor pool pick. But as always, 20 00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:07,520 Speaker 4: we're going to start you off by breaking down the 21 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:12,240 Speaker 4: Thursday night football game. So let's get right into the 22 00:01:12,319 --> 00:01:14,880 Speaker 4: Thursday night preview. But before we do, I just want 23 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:17,479 Speaker 4: to remind you guys check out the Action Network app 24 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:19,600 Speaker 4: because it's my favorite app. 25 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:21,720 Speaker 3: It's free, it's in the app Store. 26 00:01:22,160 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 4: You can get real time odds, box scores, live win probabilities. 27 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:28,880 Speaker 3: And the capacity to track every bet you make. 28 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:31,840 Speaker 4: You can follow me, you can follow my co host Stuckey, 29 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:34,280 Speaker 4: so be sure to check that out the Action Network app. 30 00:01:34,360 --> 00:01:37,000 Speaker 4: Let's get in to our Thursday Night football preview. 31 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:41,760 Speaker 1: It's not the best game, but it's the only game tonight. 32 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 1: Let's bet Thursday Night Football for this Thursday. 33 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 4: We have the seven to zero San Francisco forty nine 34 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 4: ers on a roll, fresh off demolishing the Carolina Panthers, 35 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 4: going to Arizona to play the three four and one 36 00:01:58,200 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 4: Cardinals led by Kyler Murray, coach by Cliff Kingsbury. Ten 37 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:05,520 Speaker 4: point spread in favor of the San Francisco forty nine Ers, 38 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:08,640 Speaker 4: eighty percent of the bets eighty seven percent of the 39 00:02:08,680 --> 00:02:11,840 Speaker 4: money on San Francisco the over unders forty two and 40 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:12,799 Speaker 4: a half. 41 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 3: Sixty six percent of the bets. 42 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:17,520 Speaker 4: Coming in on the over in that one, but only 43 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:20,040 Speaker 4: thirty three percent of the money on the over. Here 44 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:22,120 Speaker 4: to help me break it down, the Prime Minister of 45 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:25,960 Speaker 4: Degenerate Nation, my dude, Stucky Stuck, how was Week eight 46 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:28,240 Speaker 4: and what are your thoughts on this Thursday night? 47 00:02:28,639 --> 00:02:31,840 Speaker 2: Week eight was slightly profitable, it was should have been 48 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:34,000 Speaker 2: a lot better. I still can't believe the Browns didn't 49 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:35,560 Speaker 2: cover You know how hard it is to get a 50 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 2: bet in the NFL plus thirteen and it closes nine 51 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:41,400 Speaker 2: and a half without injuries. And then it's just that 52 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 2: the Browns average five point three yards were played to 53 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 2: the Pats four point eight and the gift gifted them 54 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:50,800 Speaker 2: seventeen points. Dropping picks, dropping fumbles. I mean, it was bad. 55 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:53,400 Speaker 2: And then at the end Baker Mayfield can't even get 56 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 2: a yard to get in the back door. But the 57 00:02:55,480 --> 00:02:58,800 Speaker 2: Patriots defense was exposed for some things that we'll get into, 58 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:02,080 Speaker 2: and it wasretty much the first real offense they've played 59 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:04,720 Speaker 2: all year. But we'll get to that. But I'm ready 60 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:06,400 Speaker 2: to get into this week. 61 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:08,280 Speaker 4: You know, just for the listeners out there, we are 62 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:10,519 Speaker 4: keeping score. We give two points for our top pick 63 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 4: in the six pack, and then one point for the 64 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:14,919 Speaker 4: other two and one for the over runder. We're tied 65 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 4: at twenty three, the only reason really being that I 66 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:21,359 Speaker 4: picked against you in that Browns Patriots game, and as 67 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:23,760 Speaker 4: you mentioned, somehow got the miracle cover. I mean, this 68 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:25,400 Speaker 4: is one of those games where I wish, you know, 69 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:27,480 Speaker 4: we don't get a chance to really watch these games together. 70 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 4: I just would have liked to see in your face 71 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:32,960 Speaker 4: after like the opening sequence of plays for the Browns 72 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:35,960 Speaker 4: because that essentially kind of dictated the outcome. I mean, 73 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:39,080 Speaker 4: I've never seen something that bizarre. My favorite moment in 74 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 4: that game might have been when the Browns scored the touchdown. 75 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:43,280 Speaker 4: I think it was to Demetrius Harris to tight end 76 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:45,520 Speaker 4: and it was only the second passing touchdown. The Pats 77 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:47,920 Speaker 4: have given up and they just look so confused, like, wait, 78 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 4: so we have to get off the field. It's like 79 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:52,120 Speaker 4: it's not a punt, it's not a field goal. It 80 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 4: didn't look like they've ever gotten scored on before. 81 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:56,000 Speaker 2: One thing I just want to bring up about this 82 00:03:56,080 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 2: pop we recorded on Wednesday night. Most of the time 83 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 2: all plays in the app, but once in a blue moon, 84 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 2: I might buy out, which is why it's important to 85 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 2: follow me. Like last week, I had the Chiefs plus five, 86 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 2: which is my top pick, and I actually bought out 87 00:04:08,600 --> 00:04:11,240 Speaker 2: of that at Packer's minus three for a little bit 88 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:13,000 Speaker 2: and try and try to middle it as well. After 89 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 2: I saw that the Chiefs their injuries, but all along 90 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:18,279 Speaker 2: their offensive line, all their defenders out, I just had 91 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:20,159 Speaker 2: to get out something. So that's why it's important just 92 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 2: to follow us, and you know, read our guide that 93 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:25,080 Speaker 2: will have out everything that I say on this podcast. 94 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 2: I do bet, but if some things change in the 95 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:28,720 Speaker 2: line moves and I might want to get out, that's 96 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:31,039 Speaker 2: why it's important to follow us on the app. 97 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:33,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, that's a great point. You know, we do 98 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:36,599 Speaker 4: record this Wednesday. We have our draft even earlier in 99 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 4: the day Wednesday, so sometimes the lines move and sometimes yeah, we. 100 00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:42,159 Speaker 2: Haven't made our best. Thursday has changed. I mean, there's 101 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:44,120 Speaker 2: the most important one we're looking for. 102 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:45,719 Speaker 4: Like, there's a line today that we talked about and 103 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 4: we'll get into it later. But I kind of said, hey, 104 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:48,839 Speaker 4: you know, you think this thing is going to. 105 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:49,839 Speaker 3: Move because I might wait. 106 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:52,440 Speaker 4: So yeah, there, you know, definitely follow us in the app. 107 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:55,760 Speaker 4: You're at Stucky two, I'm at Chris Raybon. You can 108 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:57,680 Speaker 4: see all our bets there. You know, if we decide 109 00:04:57,680 --> 00:05:00,839 Speaker 4: to not bet a game or we'd come different side later, 110 00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:01,560 Speaker 4: we try. 111 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:02,880 Speaker 3: To middle it whatever it may be. 112 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:04,720 Speaker 4: You can catch all our picks in the app as 113 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 4: well as everyone else from the Action Network. But with 114 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:09,440 Speaker 4: that said, let's get into this Thursday night gare because 115 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:11,719 Speaker 4: I mean, man, I like the Panthers last week. 116 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 3: I know you liked them a little bit as well. 117 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:16,440 Speaker 4: And I thought they were not as good as the 118 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 4: forty nine ers, but a competent team that could kind 119 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:21,200 Speaker 4: of come in there and give them keep the game close. 120 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:23,880 Speaker 3: And man, was I wrong because. 121 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:27,200 Speaker 4: The forty nine ers, it's like they have injuries to 122 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:29,440 Speaker 4: both tackles, they have injuries to their full beck Kyle 123 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:32,840 Speaker 4: youth Check, and yet Kyle Shanahan just completely out coached 124 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:34,760 Speaker 4: Ron Rivera, who, by the way, is usually good in 125 00:05:34,760 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 4: these underdog spots. I think he's twenty four and fourteen 126 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:40,160 Speaker 4: against the spread coming in as a dog. They were 127 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:43,479 Speaker 4: just running out of formations that the Panthers no way, 128 00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:45,679 Speaker 4: in no way could have prepared for. They had wide 129 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:50,200 Speaker 4: receivers scoring touchdowns on the ground, motions, shifts. 130 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 2: My favorite one was that fake handoff and then the 131 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 2: d end came at Jimmy g and then he pitched 132 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:57,560 Speaker 2: it so like you're just you're getting that defender out 133 00:05:57,600 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 2: of the way with that fake. That was a brilliant 134 00:05:59,320 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 2: play golf. 135 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:03,040 Speaker 4: You know, it's absurd, and you know it's crazy because 136 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:05,960 Speaker 4: the Fantasy Flex this week, Corner was talking about how 137 00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:09,039 Speaker 4: he seems to be a week behind, when you know, 138 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:11,039 Speaker 4: he was calling out some of his you know, favorite 139 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:12,840 Speaker 4: kind of bounce back guys like he was like on 140 00:06:12,880 --> 00:06:14,920 Speaker 4: on Montgomery the week before and then he bounces back 141 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:15,360 Speaker 4: this week. 142 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:17,120 Speaker 3: Like I feel that way about. 143 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:18,920 Speaker 4: The forty nine ers because I actually wrote up all 144 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:21,640 Speaker 4: of our betting previews in twenty eighteen for the Action 145 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:23,000 Speaker 4: Network and I was like, you. 146 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 3: Know, who's my sleeper super Bowl team? 147 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:28,120 Speaker 4: The San Francisco forty nine ers, because I thought they 148 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:29,520 Speaker 4: were well coached, had a lot of talent on the 149 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 4: defensive front offense. I thought that they have the right 150 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:34,680 Speaker 4: quarterback and you know it didn't happen for him last year. 151 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:36,960 Speaker 4: Of course Jimigi going down, but man, do they look 152 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:37,880 Speaker 4: poised to get back. 153 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:38,120 Speaker 3: Now? 154 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 4: The question is in this game stuck. This is one 155 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:42,919 Speaker 4: of those nine to ten point spreads where we know 156 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:45,680 Speaker 4: from you know, kind of looking into the data, they 157 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:47,800 Speaker 4: don't happen often, but we know looking into this that 158 00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:49,960 Speaker 4: these are those spreads that are just really tough to 159 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:54,520 Speaker 4: cover for a national football We favorite thirty eight and 160 00:06:54,680 --> 00:06:56,960 Speaker 4: nine for the underdog when it's a nine to ten 161 00:06:57,000 --> 00:06:59,800 Speaker 4: point spread. That's according to bet Labs, which you can 162 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:03,680 Speaker 4: find on the Action Network if you are a subscriber, 163 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 4: So be sure to check into bet labs if you 164 00:07:06,080 --> 00:07:08,440 Speaker 4: really want to dig into all this data, but can 165 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 4: the forty nine is cover this number? 166 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 2: And I have to feel really compelled about a Thursday 167 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:16,880 Speaker 2: night game just I always feel like you get some weird, fluky, 168 00:07:17,440 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 2: sloppy play. I do think the short week helps the 169 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:23,320 Speaker 2: Cardinals in this sense that Kyle Shanahan doesn't have as 170 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:25,840 Speaker 2: much time to get into the kitchen and you know, 171 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:28,920 Speaker 2: cook up some new plays and new things, and maybe 172 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:30,960 Speaker 2: he doesn't even want to show off some of the 173 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:33,560 Speaker 2: stuff he has stored for a game that they should win. 174 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:35,600 Speaker 2: I do think that helps a little bit. And it 175 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:38,040 Speaker 2: is a semi you know, maybe a letdown emotionally if 176 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:40,760 Speaker 2: there's such a big win after scoring fifty plus, But 177 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 2: you know, so then I look at Arizona and I say, 178 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:45,520 Speaker 2: all right, let me see if I can make a 179 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 2: case for the ten point dog, which is generally going 180 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:50,680 Speaker 2: to be a side that I want to look into. 181 00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:52,800 Speaker 2: And you know, the first thing that jumps out to me. 182 00:07:52,960 --> 00:07:54,720 Speaker 2: Number one is they can't cover tight ends or backs 183 00:07:54,760 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 2: out of the backfield if horrible linebackers and safeties. So 184 00:07:57,800 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 2: that's not good against the forty nine ers and kittle 185 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:00,640 Speaker 2: weakest link. 186 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 4: I think against tight ends and all that inside stuff 187 00:08:03,880 --> 00:08:05,840 Speaker 4: with Swearinger. Now they released him a couple weeks ago, 188 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:07,520 Speaker 4: so they've been a tiny bit better. But I was 189 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:10,920 Speaker 4: actually tabulating every team against the slot, whether it doesn't 190 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:12,200 Speaker 4: it could be a tight end, it could be anyone 191 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:14,360 Speaker 4: who lines up in the slot. And the Cardinals given 192 00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:16,600 Speaker 4: up the most production in the league. So you're exactly 193 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:18,200 Speaker 4: on point. It's going to be tough for them, especially 194 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:22,000 Speaker 4: now that added Emmanuel Sanders. And remember Shanahan, it was 195 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:24,800 Speaker 4: two years ago they were using Marche's goodwin out like 196 00:08:25,120 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 4: moving him around, putting him in the slot, and he 197 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:29,000 Speaker 4: had huge numbers for this like five six game stretch 198 00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:30,880 Speaker 4: and everyone thought he was going to be kind of 199 00:08:30,880 --> 00:08:33,760 Speaker 4: a productive, you know, receiver going forward, and that really 200 00:08:33,760 --> 00:08:34,360 Speaker 4: hasn't happened. 201 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:37,000 Speaker 3: So yeah, I agree. I think that there's gonna be 202 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:38,720 Speaker 3: matchup problems for the Cardinals. 203 00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:42,080 Speaker 2: I also look at Arizona offensive line major weak point. 204 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:46,080 Speaker 2: I mean, going against the forty nine ers elite defensive line, 205 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:48,679 Speaker 2: that's a problem. You know, they also have trouble stopping 206 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:52,320 Speaker 2: the run. That's a problem against sanfrad So and you know, 207 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:54,520 Speaker 2: I know that you know some people might point to 208 00:08:54,559 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 2: this and say San Frand has a beat Arizona in 209 00:08:57,160 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 2: what five years? I think they're zero and eight their 210 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:01,600 Speaker 2: last eight. Now this team is completely different, but that 211 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:04,480 Speaker 2: actually might serve as you know, somewhat of a motivating 212 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:07,360 Speaker 2: factor for San Fran here and what could be you know, 213 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:08,640 Speaker 2: you could argue that the baby they come out a 214 00:09:08,679 --> 00:09:10,560 Speaker 2: little flat, but this is a team that's owned them, 215 00:09:10,760 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 2: you know, over the last four years or so. So 216 00:09:13,800 --> 00:09:16,800 Speaker 2: given the spot and the spread and you know, Fran 217 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 2: the San Fran is legit because they're elite defensive line 218 00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:20,840 Speaker 2: and because of their scheme on how they play on 219 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:22,680 Speaker 2: the back end. They also not only do they after 220 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:25,720 Speaker 2: the quarterback, they also don't give up any explosive place. 221 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:29,440 Speaker 2: They've allowed twenty explosive plays on the entire year. That's 222 00:09:29,480 --> 00:09:31,200 Speaker 2: fewest in the NFL. I mean, it's fewer than the 223 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:34,000 Speaker 2: Patriots who have played clown cards every week. The forty 224 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:35,839 Speaker 2: nine ers, who you know, you could have questioned who 225 00:09:35,920 --> 00:09:38,440 Speaker 2: they played and that now you can't. I mean, what 226 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:41,160 Speaker 2: they did to the Rams, what they did to the Panthers, 227 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:44,240 Speaker 2: they're legit. But this is you know, a market here. 228 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:48,320 Speaker 2: They're going to be most likely overvalued in the near term. 229 00:09:48,840 --> 00:09:51,319 Speaker 2: This one I think the line might be a tattoo high, 230 00:09:51,400 --> 00:09:55,760 Speaker 2: but given all the matchup advantages and Thursday night complete 231 00:09:55,840 --> 00:09:56,760 Speaker 2: easy pass for me. 232 00:09:57,280 --> 00:10:01,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, And I think kind of compa problems for the 233 00:10:02,679 --> 00:10:06,200 Speaker 4: Arizona Cardinals is that you mentioned the offensive line. I 234 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:08,040 Speaker 4: think the way you kind of keep the score close 235 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:10,679 Speaker 4: against San Francisco is you turn it into a run 236 00:10:10,720 --> 00:10:12,840 Speaker 4: heavy ball game. We saw Washington do that in that 237 00:10:12,880 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 4: bad weather game where they just ran the ball all day, 238 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:18,200 Speaker 4: and so San Francisco ends up not covering. Of course, 239 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:20,320 Speaker 4: one of those nine to ten points spreads. They hit 240 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:23,320 Speaker 4: nine to nothing shut him out, Like I don't know 241 00:10:23,320 --> 00:10:24,840 Speaker 4: when the last time a team got a shut out 242 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 4: and failed to cover. That would actually be an interesting one. 243 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:29,320 Speaker 2: Johnson's hurt, he's a game time call. 244 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:30,960 Speaker 4: I mean, I don't think he'll play, but he's a 245 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:33,160 Speaker 4: game time called. Chase Edmonds has been ruled out, so 246 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:35,760 Speaker 4: we should mention that Kenyan Drake traded from the Miami 247 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:38,920 Speaker 4: Dolphins to the Arizona Cardinals, so they have Zach Zenner 248 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 4: and Alfred Morris also on the roster. DJ game time 249 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:44,319 Speaker 4: call probably on the wrong side of question. A couple 250 00:10:44,320 --> 00:10:47,320 Speaker 4: of trends that are worth noting. Thursday Night, and we 251 00:10:47,320 --> 00:10:49,320 Speaker 4: talk about this a lot, but it's tough to when 252 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:52,920 Speaker 4: you're the inferior team on a short week to stay competitive. 253 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:58,160 Speaker 4: And Thursday night football favorites by seven points or more 254 00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:01,920 Speaker 4: are actually thirty nine and nineteen sixty seven percent against 255 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:03,840 Speaker 4: the spread going back to two thousand and three. 256 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:07,800 Speaker 3: That's per bet Labs. And I kind of have this theory. 257 00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:09,680 Speaker 3: I don't know how you feel about this stuff, but I. 258 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:10,920 Speaker 4: Kind of feel like, because this is one of the 259 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:15,200 Speaker 4: only situations Thursday Night generally when you see favorites are profitable. 260 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:17,400 Speaker 4: You've been doing this for a while, do you think 261 00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:20,760 Speaker 4: books are okay with kind of taking maybe like slight 262 00:11:20,800 --> 00:11:24,000 Speaker 4: losses leaving that line to where favorites can cover on 263 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:26,160 Speaker 4: Thursdays because they know that you know that's going to 264 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:27,840 Speaker 4: kind of get people in the door to then bet 265 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:29,120 Speaker 4: all these Sunday games. 266 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:31,520 Speaker 2: I mean, it is an island game, so it's so 267 00:11:31,640 --> 00:11:33,680 Speaker 2: heavily bet that I don't think so. I mean, I 268 00:11:33,679 --> 00:11:35,840 Speaker 2: think that you also have what would have sharp money 269 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:38,120 Speaker 2: that would correct that. But it's it's one of those 270 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:41,960 Speaker 2: things where everything is different, there's something missing. There's something 271 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:45,160 Speaker 2: missing in how I model teams too, which is why 272 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:47,080 Speaker 2: I always say I want to stay away. You know, 273 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:50,319 Speaker 2: if a recreational better, if you're a booky out there 274 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:53,079 Speaker 2: and recreational better has a big Thursday, maybe it sets 275 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:55,719 Speaker 2: up for an even worse weekend. But I just think 276 00:11:55,720 --> 00:11:58,280 Speaker 2: these are hard games to handicap and set lines for the. 277 00:11:58,280 --> 00:11:59,520 Speaker 3: One thing I always go back to. 278 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 4: I was doing some coaching, some personal coaching for DFS 279 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:05,960 Speaker 4: and happen to get this former O Ligneman that kind 280 00:12:05,960 --> 00:12:07,640 Speaker 4: of got into DFS and we would talk every week 281 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:09,000 Speaker 4: and he would tell me that, you know, one of 282 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:11,439 Speaker 4: the toughest things to do for offensive linemen is recover 283 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:13,719 Speaker 4: from these games. And he said, you know, one thing, 284 00:12:13,880 --> 00:12:15,800 Speaker 4: going on the road, you know, just sitting on the 285 00:12:15,800 --> 00:12:17,800 Speaker 4: planes and stuff for these big guys is tough, and 286 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:20,559 Speaker 4: sometimes some of the hotels, and also playing on short weeks. 287 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:22,079 Speaker 4: So I wonder if it's just that a lot of 288 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:24,560 Speaker 4: times the favorite tends to be the team it's a 289 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:28,360 Speaker 4: better offensive line, because that's that's football, right. Perhaps you 290 00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:31,120 Speaker 4: don't have a lot of numbers to quantify, but maybe 291 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:34,560 Speaker 4: offensive line is playing even more poorly on the short weeks. 292 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:36,439 Speaker 4: As far as the total, it's forty two and a 293 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:38,680 Speaker 4: half Now this is one where we are seeing I guess, 294 00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:42,880 Speaker 4: a sharp square disagreement because sixty six percent of the 295 00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:45,880 Speaker 4: bets over forty two and a half but sixty seven 296 00:12:45,920 --> 00:12:48,320 Speaker 4: percent of the money under forty two and a half. 297 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:49,600 Speaker 3: Is this one where you're leaning under? 298 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:52,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, if I had to, I'd probably side 299 00:12:52,040 --> 00:12:54,600 Speaker 2: with the under here. I think that if San fred 300 00:12:54,640 --> 00:12:56,720 Speaker 2: is potentially flat, I think they're going to go run heavy, 301 00:12:56,840 --> 00:12:58,320 Speaker 2: but the number seems about right. 302 00:12:58,600 --> 00:12:59,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, I would lean under his. 303 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:02,319 Speaker 4: Well, early downs, I like to look at just early 304 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:05,600 Speaker 4: down success rate. You know, that means getting four yards 305 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:07,840 Speaker 4: on first down, half of the artists necessary on second, 306 00:13:07,880 --> 00:13:09,800 Speaker 4: and picking up a conversion on third or four. So 307 00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:12,640 Speaker 4: just a percentage of successes you have in San Francisco's 308 00:13:12,679 --> 00:13:16,800 Speaker 4: defense number one in the league in past success rate, 309 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:21,199 Speaker 4: so they're allowing only thirty four percent of opponents plays 310 00:13:21,240 --> 00:13:23,280 Speaker 4: in the past game to be successful on first and 311 00:13:23,320 --> 00:13:26,480 Speaker 4: second down. But they are twenty third in the league 312 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:30,240 Speaker 4: in run defense success rate over at forty nine percent. 313 00:13:30,360 --> 00:13:33,440 Speaker 4: So there's at least a chance that you know, the Cardinals, 314 00:13:33,559 --> 00:13:36,080 Speaker 4: you know, stay on schedule at least early in the 315 00:13:36,120 --> 00:13:38,680 Speaker 4: down and not put Kyler Murray in bad situations which 316 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:41,559 Speaker 4: I think could lead to the under Let's wrap this 317 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:44,880 Speaker 4: Thursday night football preview up as we always do with 318 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:48,440 Speaker 4: the coaches pep talk. This week's pep talk comes to 319 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:52,199 Speaker 4: us from Lieutenant Colonel Frank Slade from the nineteen ninety 320 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:55,440 Speaker 4: two film Scent of a Woman, and we're dedicating it 321 00:13:55,480 --> 00:13:59,280 Speaker 4: to the Arizona Cardinals defense because I think that's really 322 00:13:59,320 --> 00:14:01,800 Speaker 4: the key here. Need to stop this San Francisco offense 323 00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:05,199 Speaker 4: which just put up fifty one hung a fifty piece 324 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:07,640 Speaker 4: on the Carolina Panthers last week. 325 00:14:08,280 --> 00:14:13,120 Speaker 5: Wow, gentlemen, when the shit hits the fan, some guys 326 00:14:13,280 --> 00:14:16,520 Speaker 5: run and some guys stay. And if you think you're 327 00:14:16,559 --> 00:14:20,440 Speaker 5: preparing these minnos for manhood, you better think again. 328 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:22,080 Speaker 2: What a sham? 329 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:25,080 Speaker 5: What kind of a show you guys putting on here today? 330 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:27,720 Speaker 4: All right, stuck, let's do it. Let's get into the 331 00:14:27,720 --> 00:14:30,640 Speaker 4: main event. It's time for the Sunday six. 332 00:14:30,520 --> 00:14:38,080 Speaker 1: Pack Thursday for action. Let's crack open the Sunday six pack. 333 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:43,000 Speaker 4: All right, So, as mentioned last week, we each got two. 334 00:14:43,160 --> 00:14:45,640 Speaker 4: We're tied at twenty three for the year out of 335 00:14:45,640 --> 00:14:49,640 Speaker 4: a possible forty points, so we dropped under sixty percent. 336 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:52,400 Speaker 3: So we got to get right back to it. It 337 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:55,000 Speaker 3: was your pick first. So where are you going? 338 00:14:55,480 --> 00:15:00,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I'm going with my Baltimore Ravens. I 339 00:15:00,840 --> 00:15:03,200 Speaker 2: also have to clarify that I am the least bias 340 00:15:03,320 --> 00:15:05,560 Speaker 2: Ravens better. There's the Ravens have covered twice this year 341 00:15:05,720 --> 00:15:08,640 Speaker 2: against the Seahawks and against the Chiefs. Those are the 342 00:15:08,640 --> 00:15:11,840 Speaker 2: only two times I've did my pick in my six pack, 343 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:13,280 Speaker 2: and the lag times I've said to bet them in 344 00:15:13,280 --> 00:15:15,240 Speaker 2: any way, generally have a good pulse on them, and 345 00:15:15,320 --> 00:15:19,360 Speaker 2: you know, bets come first. This is now a spectacular 346 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:22,000 Speaker 2: matchup for the Ravens for I mean, I could spend 347 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:24,680 Speaker 2: the whole podcast talking about this game. But look, the 348 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:27,640 Speaker 2: Patriots defense, I said, since the beginning of the year 349 00:15:27,680 --> 00:15:30,000 Speaker 2: is the best the NFL. I said on this podcast 350 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:32,760 Speaker 2: probably every week that we should just bet their unders. 351 00:15:32,760 --> 00:15:34,880 Speaker 2: And we were in the first whole month of the 352 00:15:34,920 --> 00:15:37,480 Speaker 2: season because their offense is not as good, but their 353 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:40,160 Speaker 2: defense is lee and they were playing nobody. Now they're 354 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:43,280 Speaker 2: always going to win the turnover battle, which is what people, 355 00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:45,480 Speaker 2: you know, should realise if you go back since Brady 356 00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:48,320 Speaker 2: got there, because Brady doesn't turn the ball over. And 357 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:51,160 Speaker 2: you know they're also in a terrible division and play 358 00:15:51,240 --> 00:15:54,080 Speaker 2: terrible quarterbacks. But a lot of what's happening this year 359 00:15:54,640 --> 00:15:56,840 Speaker 2: has been a ton of luck because there is a 360 00:15:56,840 --> 00:15:59,200 Speaker 2: ton of luck that goes into turnovers. In that game 361 00:15:59,320 --> 00:16:02,160 Speaker 2: against the Bill in Buffalo, they got a punt return 362 00:16:02,520 --> 00:16:05,720 Speaker 2: for a touchdown, which basically got them that win. Because 363 00:16:05,720 --> 00:16:07,280 Speaker 2: if you look at the final stats in the game 364 00:16:07,280 --> 00:16:09,680 Speaker 2: against the Bills, who just gave up a ton of 365 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:11,080 Speaker 2: the Eagles at home and the win the Bills at 366 00:16:11,080 --> 00:16:13,440 Speaker 2: three hundred and seventy five yards in that game, Patriots 367 00:16:13,480 --> 00:16:15,880 Speaker 2: two hundred and twenty four yards per play, Bills five 368 00:16:15,920 --> 00:16:19,600 Speaker 2: point three, Pats three point six. This defense is excellent 369 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:22,800 Speaker 2: because they have great corners, good safeties, they're well coached, 370 00:16:23,080 --> 00:16:26,200 Speaker 2: well schemed, but they're very vulnerable against the run. Well 371 00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:28,120 Speaker 2: gets what the Ravens are gonna do. The Ravens are 372 00:16:28,120 --> 00:16:30,240 Speaker 2: going to line up, You're going to see two tight 373 00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:33,800 Speaker 2: end sets. You're gonna see two two, three running backs 374 00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:35,640 Speaker 2: in there at a time, and they're going to line 375 00:16:35,720 --> 00:16:37,480 Speaker 2: up and run it, and they're just going to run 376 00:16:37,520 --> 00:16:39,120 Speaker 2: it and run it and run it. Right now, that there's 377 00:16:39,080 --> 00:16:40,960 Speaker 2: the number one rush team in the NFL by almost 378 00:16:40,960 --> 00:16:43,360 Speaker 2: any metric, and when they do go to pass it. 379 00:16:43,560 --> 00:16:46,960 Speaker 2: The most interesting thing is what will the Patriots do 380 00:16:47,040 --> 00:16:49,200 Speaker 2: from a scheme perspective number one, because are they going 381 00:16:49,240 --> 00:16:52,520 Speaker 2: to play all their elite corners against a three tight 382 00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:55,040 Speaker 2: end two tight end set where the Ravens can are 383 00:16:55,040 --> 00:16:56,120 Speaker 2: going to line up and try to power. And the 384 00:16:56,200 --> 00:16:58,280 Speaker 2: Ravens also throw out of this. They throw out of 385 00:16:58,280 --> 00:16:59,880 Speaker 2: it a lot, and they have design runs for Lamar. 386 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:02,920 Speaker 2: But when they go to passing situations. Patriots, why they're 387 00:17:02,960 --> 00:17:05,560 Speaker 2: so good is they can just man up, play cover zero, 388 00:17:05,640 --> 00:17:08,560 Speaker 2: no safety on top, and blitz. But if you do 389 00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:10,840 Speaker 2: that against Lamar Jackson, all he has to do is 390 00:17:10,840 --> 00:17:13,560 Speaker 2: get by one level and he's gone. That's just why 391 00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:16,960 Speaker 2: people say Alabama struggles against running quarterbacks because they play 392 00:17:17,040 --> 00:17:20,040 Speaker 2: man everything and then the cornerbacks are running with the receivers. 393 00:17:20,160 --> 00:17:22,600 Speaker 2: And if you look back historically the Patriots, one of 394 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:25,600 Speaker 2: the things they've always struggled with. You Cam Newton, Mitch 395 00:17:25,640 --> 00:17:28,720 Speaker 2: Trubisky last year ran for niris mobile quarterbacks. Greg Rowman, 396 00:17:28,760 --> 00:17:30,840 Speaker 2: the offensive coordinator for the Ravens, states the Patriots five 397 00:17:30,840 --> 00:17:33,400 Speaker 2: times in his career, averages about four touchdowns a game 398 00:17:33,400 --> 00:17:37,240 Speaker 2: against the Patriots, and that's with Kaepernick and Tyrod Taylor 399 00:17:37,480 --> 00:17:39,760 Speaker 2: as the quarterbacks in those five games, so the Raves 400 00:17:39,800 --> 00:17:41,600 Speaker 2: are gonna have success running the ball. The Ravens also 401 00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:45,159 Speaker 2: have an enormous, enormous advantage in special teams DVA or 402 00:17:45,240 --> 00:17:47,520 Speaker 2: Ravens number one Patriots like number twenty eight. They're down 403 00:17:47,520 --> 00:17:50,760 Speaker 2: to on their third kicker. Now Raven's best special teams 404 00:17:50,760 --> 00:17:52,440 Speaker 2: in the NFL. But in those side of the ball. 405 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:56,240 Speaker 2: The Ravens defense now with Jimmy Smith back, Marcus Peters 406 00:17:56,280 --> 00:17:57,880 Speaker 2: and I save before the Seattle game is a huge 407 00:17:57,880 --> 00:18:01,160 Speaker 2: signing and Humphrey on the outside, and they're just gonna blitz. 408 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:03,040 Speaker 2: They're gonna blitz everyone. The only way you can beat 409 00:18:03,040 --> 00:18:05,280 Speaker 2: the Patriots and the only team that ever has done 410 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:07,440 Speaker 2: it in the playoffs up in foxburs the Ravens because 411 00:18:07,440 --> 00:18:09,600 Speaker 2: they have great corners and they could hit Brady. That 412 00:18:09,720 --> 00:18:11,200 Speaker 2: is the only way you do. You can't play zone, 413 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:13,000 Speaker 2: you can't play off man. You have to get up 414 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:14,840 Speaker 2: in the receiver's face and you have to blitz. Well. 415 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:18,119 Speaker 2: The Ravens have three elite man corners and they blitz 416 00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:20,640 Speaker 2: more than any team in the NFL. And the Patriots 417 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:23,360 Speaker 2: offense isn't right. They have new pieces every week. Their 418 00:18:23,400 --> 00:18:25,280 Speaker 2: offensive line has all the injuries. Now they have the 419 00:18:25,280 --> 00:18:27,000 Speaker 2: best offensive line coach the NFL. So I'm sure they're 420 00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:28,240 Speaker 2: gonna figure it out by the end of the year. 421 00:18:28,400 --> 00:18:30,000 Speaker 2: But right now, they can't run the ball because they 422 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:33,800 Speaker 2: can't run block and they're you know, Brady doesn't get sacks. 423 00:18:33,840 --> 00:18:35,439 Speaker 2: It gets rid of the ball so quick. But if 424 00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:36,840 Speaker 2: you're pressuring them, make them do that, and you have 425 00:18:36,880 --> 00:18:39,679 Speaker 2: elite corners blanket on the receivers, that's gonna make it 426 00:18:39,680 --> 00:18:41,600 Speaker 2: tough for them to run the ball. So basically, what 427 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:45,120 Speaker 2: it comes down to for me is the Patriots defense 428 00:18:45,240 --> 00:18:47,320 Speaker 2: vulnerable against the run. Well, they're playing the best running 429 00:18:47,320 --> 00:18:49,000 Speaker 2: team in the NFL, and when the Ravens have to 430 00:18:49,040 --> 00:18:52,960 Speaker 2: pass it, it could open the Patriots defense up to 431 00:18:53,320 --> 00:18:55,240 Speaker 2: Lamar running the ball. They might have to start. They're 432 00:18:55,240 --> 00:18:56,720 Speaker 2: gonna probably have to spy them. I mean, it's belgier. 433 00:18:56,720 --> 00:18:58,800 Speaker 2: They're gonna come up with something, but it's they're not 434 00:18:58,800 --> 00:19:01,199 Speaker 2: gonna do what they've been doing all year. This is 435 00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:03,800 Speaker 2: the best team by far that they've played all season. 436 00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:05,400 Speaker 2: And the other side of the ball, the Ravens are 437 00:19:05,440 --> 00:19:07,720 Speaker 2: with their corners now healthy. That was the biggest week 438 00:19:07,760 --> 00:19:09,320 Speaker 2: part of their defense. I look at all their defensive 439 00:19:09,359 --> 00:19:10,960 Speaker 2: numbers are in the year, it's because they'd have a 440 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:12,560 Speaker 2: second quarter. Well, I only have a second quarter and 441 00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:14,240 Speaker 2: a third corner with Smith and Peters back. The only 442 00:19:14,320 --> 00:19:15,840 Speaker 2: thing I want to see is who plays slots. I 443 00:19:16,119 --> 00:19:16,399 Speaker 2: don't know. 444 00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:18,600 Speaker 4: You're probably Humphrey, I would think, especially if I think 445 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:20,440 Speaker 4: Edelman right, he would track Edelman. 446 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:22,160 Speaker 2: I would think he's the only one that could play 447 00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:23,600 Speaker 2: slot because Peters has to stay on the side and 448 00:19:23,640 --> 00:19:26,000 Speaker 2: stick to it. Jimmy Smith is not nimble enough to 449 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:28,520 Speaker 2: play in the slot. But I also want to know 450 00:19:28,520 --> 00:19:30,840 Speaker 2: who does that when you want Humphrey to trail a 451 00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:32,800 Speaker 2: number one. Now, that's not as much of a concern 452 00:19:32,840 --> 00:19:35,080 Speaker 2: against the Patriots, but is a great matchup. And then 453 00:19:35,119 --> 00:19:37,120 Speaker 2: it's the Ravens off of a bye. If there's one 454 00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:39,399 Speaker 2: coach that's been great off of a bye, it was 455 00:19:39,440 --> 00:19:43,200 Speaker 2: three coaches and I always say them, Reid Belichick, John Harball, 456 00:19:43,520 --> 00:19:45,720 Speaker 2: and the winner of this game will determine who's been 457 00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:47,720 Speaker 2: the best against the spread, the most profitable coach you 458 00:19:47,760 --> 00:19:49,760 Speaker 2: over the past fifteen years off of by Belichick's not 459 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:51,280 Speaker 2: off a bye, but if Hardball wins, will go to 460 00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:54,280 Speaker 2: nine and three against the spread and pass belichicks against 461 00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:56,640 Speaker 2: the spread percentage nine and three against the spread. After 462 00:19:56,720 --> 00:19:59,520 Speaker 2: by he's six and one at home. The one loss 463 00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:01,520 Speaker 2: came against the Jaguars, and again the NFL it will 464 00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:03,159 Speaker 2: apologize for there was a field goal that should have 465 00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:05,119 Speaker 2: never happened. They had to send out a message. So 466 00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 2: you really should be seven to zero straight up after 467 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:10,520 Speaker 2: a buye at home. This is a dream spot for 468 00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:13,760 Speaker 2: the Ravens. I don't even think that the Patriots would mind. 469 00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:15,760 Speaker 2: Bill Belichick is going to obviously coach when the geame, 470 00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:17,280 Speaker 2: but they don't even mind if they lose this game. 471 00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:20,080 Speaker 2: He knows that there's some vulnerable weak points on this 472 00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:21,840 Speaker 2: team and they're gonna be fine by the end of 473 00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:23,359 Speaker 2: the year. Their defense is still lead. They got to 474 00:20:23,359 --> 00:20:25,920 Speaker 2: figure out some things on offense. But you're gonna see 475 00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:30,080 Speaker 2: that the Ravens are gonna not fail execution wise what 476 00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:32,119 Speaker 2: we saw last week with the Browns, and again the 477 00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:34,320 Speaker 2: Browns could have won if they just didn't vomit all 478 00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:37,440 Speaker 2: over themselves. I love this at anything field goal or 479 00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:39,560 Speaker 2: above too much value for me to pass up on 480 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:41,280 Speaker 2: the Ravens. I think they went out right. 481 00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:43,199 Speaker 4: You've bet against the Patriots a couple of times, and 482 00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:45,360 Speaker 4: I go and I tell you why you shouldn't. 483 00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:47,720 Speaker 3: Bet against the Patriots. This is when I actually agree 484 00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:47,920 Speaker 3: with you. 485 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:49,400 Speaker 4: Now, I don't know if I'm going to actually pull 486 00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:51,480 Speaker 4: the trigger on it, but I do agree there's no 487 00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:53,240 Speaker 4: reason to bet on the Patriots this week. 488 00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:56,520 Speaker 3: So you either stay away or you bet on the Ravens. 489 00:20:56,640 --> 00:20:59,240 Speaker 4: I think I suspect what they'll do against Lamar Jackson 490 00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:02,080 Speaker 4: is try to keep them in the pocket, which means 491 00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:03,840 Speaker 4: you might see more zone than usual. 492 00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:04,440 Speaker 3: You might see it. 493 00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:07,280 Speaker 4: You might see even a double spy with zero coverage 494 00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:09,600 Speaker 4: behind it, if they feel like they can still match up, 495 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:13,240 Speaker 4: you know, to the Ravens receivers. Marquis Brown obviously may return, 496 00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:15,160 Speaker 4: which would be a big boost for them. 497 00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:16,119 Speaker 3: But I do agree. 498 00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:17,439 Speaker 4: I think the key is on the other side of 499 00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:19,479 Speaker 4: the ball, where the Ravens can match up to this 500 00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:22,159 Speaker 4: Patriots offense that has been getting by by playing some 501 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:23,320 Speaker 4: of the worst teams. 502 00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:24,879 Speaker 3: That they have. They've had the ball for a while. 503 00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:27,399 Speaker 3: The Ravens, you mentioned, they haven't covered much. 504 00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:29,840 Speaker 4: So when a team covers thirty percent or less, and 505 00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:31,800 Speaker 4: then they're going up against a team that's fifty percent 506 00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:35,480 Speaker 4: or better from Week six on the team that the 507 00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:38,400 Speaker 4: worst team against the spread is one seventy one oh 508 00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:39,680 Speaker 4: four and nine since. 509 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:41,760 Speaker 3: Two thousand and three. That's a sixty two percent hit rate. 510 00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:44,119 Speaker 4: So I think there are a lot of kind of 511 00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:47,119 Speaker 4: factors that lead you to say, Okay, I'm going to 512 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:49,200 Speaker 4: back the Ravens in this spot, so I don't hate 513 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:51,760 Speaker 4: that pick. For my first pick, I'm going with the 514 00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:56,760 Speaker 4: Jacksonville Jaguars in London in there essentially their home, because 515 00:21:57,119 --> 00:21:59,800 Speaker 4: we know the Jaguars ball out in London. But I 516 00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:02,119 Speaker 4: think I think that you know, they're getting this Houston 517 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:05,399 Speaker 4: team at the right time. Now, Houston banged up. You know, 518 00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:07,280 Speaker 4: just lost JJ Watt for the year. 519 00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:07,800 Speaker 3: Which is big. 520 00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:10,560 Speaker 4: Still looks like they're going to be without Will Fuller 521 00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:11,920 Speaker 4: and others. 522 00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:14,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, the secondary has been banged. Looks like Johnson Joseph 523 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:17,919 Speaker 3: the corner will be back, he's probable, but you know 524 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:20,200 Speaker 3: it's just it's a banged up secondary. 525 00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:23,359 Speaker 4: Now you're losing your top essentially have the creator in 526 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:27,679 Speaker 4: JJ Watt. Remember they already traded Jadeveon Clowney to the Seahawks, 527 00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:31,160 Speaker 4: and you're getting a Jags team that Deshaun Watson. Number 528 00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:32,840 Speaker 4: one has struggled against Now I know it's been with 529 00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:35,560 Speaker 4: you know, Jayleen Ramsey mostly in the lineup. But if 530 00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:38,120 Speaker 4: you look at this Jags defense as of late, they're 531 00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:40,119 Speaker 4: kind of getting back to what they do well. A 532 00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:42,040 Speaker 4: Number one, they've been stopping to run a lot better 533 00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:45,000 Speaker 4: over these past two games. But number two, they are 534 00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:48,240 Speaker 4: now number six in the NFL in pressure rate, which 535 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:50,760 Speaker 4: kind of surprised me a little bit. But they're getting 536 00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:53,879 Speaker 4: pressures on twenty eight twenty eight point three percent of dropbacks. 537 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:56,080 Speaker 4: That's number six in the league. And that's gonna be 538 00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:59,199 Speaker 4: a problem for Deshaun Watson. Now, no Will Fuller, you 539 00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:01,840 Speaker 4: have aj Boue who can shadow and has been used 540 00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:05,560 Speaker 4: in shadow coverage on Hopkins. Looks like QT is in 541 00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:08,199 Speaker 4: the doghouse active but didn't play a snap, got replaced 542 00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:11,240 Speaker 4: by DeAndre Carter in the slot. Newston's kind of just 543 00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:13,520 Speaker 4: been living on these magical Deshaun Watson plays. 544 00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:14,320 Speaker 3: Uh, they've been. 545 00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:16,679 Speaker 4: They've been living on these plays, the tight ends that 546 00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:19,439 Speaker 4: really have no business making them. I mean, Darren Fells 547 00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:21,639 Speaker 4: has made so many plays that for a guy that 548 00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:23,480 Speaker 4: they they probably thought they were gonna cut. 549 00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:24,320 Speaker 3: Before the season started. 550 00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:27,200 Speaker 4: But then Jordan Thomas and went on ir Khill warring 551 00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:30,320 Speaker 4: those guys end up keeping them. But it's just a 552 00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:33,000 Speaker 4: bad spot for Uston having to travel banged up against 553 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:36,080 Speaker 4: the Jags team that has played in London before. And 554 00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:38,040 Speaker 4: let's not forget Watson banged up. I mean, we don't 555 00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:40,240 Speaker 4: really you know, made a crazy play with this vision. 556 00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:42,960 Speaker 4: Uh kind of impaired, I think, getting kicked in the 557 00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:46,800 Speaker 4: face in the open game, but it's telling that for 558 00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:49,840 Speaker 4: an open team that gets zero pressure. Uh, and Loster 559 00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:53,200 Speaker 4: Center is starting center in that game. You know, Houston 560 00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:55,000 Speaker 4: really had to kind of struggle to pull it out 561 00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:57,919 Speaker 4: late with with a touchdown with six six or so 562 00:23:58,000 --> 00:23:58,480 Speaker 4: minutes to go. 563 00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:00,679 Speaker 3: So I think this is a tough spot for Houston. 564 00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:03,800 Speaker 4: Usually when you want to back the Jags, they are 565 00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:06,080 Speaker 4: thirteen eight and two against the spread sixty two percent 566 00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:10,160 Speaker 4: as an underdog under Doug Marone. Houston under Bill O'Brien 567 00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:13,359 Speaker 4: over the last three in some odd years just eleven 568 00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:15,440 Speaker 4: fourteen and two forty four percent against the spread is 569 00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:17,960 Speaker 4: a favorite. So this is usually kind of the spot 570 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:21,320 Speaker 4: where I want to go after fade Houston and get 571 00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:22,480 Speaker 4: on the side of the Jags who are. 572 00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:22,760 Speaker 3: Playing a lot. 573 00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:26,040 Speaker 4: But Gardner minshrew to thirteen touchdowns, two picks, playing really 574 00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:28,280 Speaker 4: well under pressure, and that o Lie is getting healthier. 575 00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:30,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree with you. I'm I'm either going to 576 00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:32,359 Speaker 2: play the Jags or on my tease them. They're sitting 577 00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:33,919 Speaker 2: at one and a half, so they're a good teaser 578 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:36,280 Speaker 2: spot to to go over seven. I mean I mentioned 579 00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:38,200 Speaker 2: this earlier when I played the Jags in Houston and 580 00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:41,440 Speaker 2: they almost won. Deshaun Watson just struggles against their defense 581 00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:42,879 Speaker 2: because they can get a ton of pressure and they 582 00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:44,840 Speaker 2: take away a lot of the deep stuff that he 583 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:46,800 Speaker 2: loves to throw. In four games against the Jags, he's 584 00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:49,240 Speaker 2: a seventy six point nine ratings, six hundred and thirty 585 00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:53,000 Speaker 2: four yards, two touchdowns, one pick, one fumble loss, sack 586 00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:56,439 Speaker 2: fifteen times, so two touchdowns, two turnovers, completed fifty eight 587 00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:59,000 Speaker 2: percent of his passes. This is the one defense that 588 00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:02,320 Speaker 2: gives him fit. Uh. Now, I will say it looks 589 00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:04,199 Speaker 2: like Dede Westbrook's practicing for the Jags, which is big 590 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:06,960 Speaker 2: because the wide rear is with him in there, it's 591 00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:10,400 Speaker 2: a it's a formidable wide receiving corps. But I did 592 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:12,880 Speaker 2: see Chark had some kind of something popped up today 593 00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:14,600 Speaker 2: with a quad. Hopefully that's not. 594 00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:15,920 Speaker 3: It's just like Wednesday. 595 00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:19,360 Speaker 4: Like Wednesday injine reports are the most tilting injury reports ever, 596 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:21,680 Speaker 4: Like you can't like you just see like half the league, 597 00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:23,240 Speaker 4: especially in week nine popping up. 598 00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:24,840 Speaker 3: But I think Chark Movie. 599 00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:26,479 Speaker 2: College at least is not as bad as college. They 600 00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:28,680 Speaker 2: don't put guys out that just there's this is week 601 00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:32,240 Speaker 2: the week on a Wednesday. But the one thing I 602 00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:35,359 Speaker 2: will say is the Jags lineback I mean the Marshall 603 00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:37,439 Speaker 2: Darius is out, Ramsey's on this team, but the defense 604 00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:40,680 Speaker 2: stole some players. Now the linebacker corps is decimated. Yeah, 605 00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:44,080 Speaker 2: the Jaguars linebackers. They have no linebackers left. But I 606 00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:46,720 Speaker 2: still like the Jags here and the familiarity factors will 607 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:48,480 Speaker 2: put me over to the top. And that's what you mentioned. 608 00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:50,120 Speaker 2: I mean this is they played six games in London, 609 00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:51,640 Speaker 2: It's the most in the NFL. This is the first 610 00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:54,359 Speaker 2: time for Houston going over there. The Jags lost their 611 00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:56,480 Speaker 2: first two there. They were three and one since the 612 00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:59,120 Speaker 2: one loss was a competitive loss to the Eagles. So yeah, 613 00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:01,000 Speaker 2: I agree with you there with the Jags. 614 00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:02,200 Speaker 3: All right. 615 00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:04,320 Speaker 2: For my second pick, you mentioned the Raiders so I'll 616 00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:07,080 Speaker 2: throw them out now. I like the Raiders minus two 617 00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:10,000 Speaker 2: at home against the Lions. Look, the Raiders have this 618 00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:13,600 Speaker 2: stigma attached to their name because if they're the Raiders 619 00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:15,760 Speaker 2: and everyone wanted to laugh at them before the year, 620 00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:18,360 Speaker 2: But they've been playing really good football and a lot 621 00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:20,119 Speaker 2: of it starts with their offensive line. I know they 622 00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:23,000 Speaker 2: lost their center, Hudson, but then the Incognito might actually 623 00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:25,480 Speaker 2: move over to center this week. They actually have a 624 00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:28,560 Speaker 2: really good offensive line. It's top ten in my book. 625 00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:32,199 Speaker 2: And you know, they have a running back which arguably 626 00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:34,520 Speaker 2: you know, there's other names you're going to throw out there, 627 00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:36,400 Speaker 2: but it's in one of the best or the best 628 00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:38,199 Speaker 2: pure running back in the NFL. 629 00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:39,760 Speaker 3: Oh already recalled. 630 00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:41,760 Speaker 4: I mean, no, we loved them in fantasy you know 631 00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:43,920 Speaker 4: before the season. He's a guy we love this week, 632 00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:46,040 Speaker 4: but whoa, I don't think I've heard that one yet. 633 00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:49,399 Speaker 2: But he's he's not just just pure running back. So 634 00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:51,560 Speaker 2: I mean, you obviously have like McCaffrey and Kamara who 635 00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:53,119 Speaker 2: are going to bring so much more out of the 636 00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:55,840 Speaker 2: backfield as well, you know, and Zeke there's obviously and 637 00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:58,280 Speaker 2: obviously your man up in New York. I'm just saying 638 00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:02,320 Speaker 2: he's in the conversation, he's probably eight percent of his carries. 639 00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:06,080 Speaker 2: You know, his elusive rating leads all NFL running backs. 640 00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:09,520 Speaker 2: I mean, it's he's really solid. They're averaging four point 641 00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:12,480 Speaker 2: eight yards per carry, seventh in the NFL. Yards per 642 00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:16,000 Speaker 2: play Raiders top six six point three. It's all starting 643 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:18,880 Speaker 2: with their offensive line, their run game. They're getting protection, 644 00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:21,320 Speaker 2: and what do the lines not do? They can't stop 645 00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:24,200 Speaker 2: the run. They're twenty fourth, given up four point seven 646 00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:27,359 Speaker 2: yards per carry, they get no pressure, twenty six adjusted sacker. 647 00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:30,159 Speaker 2: They're all defensive lines also twenty seventh and adjusted lineyards 648 00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:32,480 Speaker 2: and their secondary is decimated. That was the strength of 649 00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:34,119 Speaker 2: their team and allowed them to do so much from 650 00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:36,520 Speaker 2: a scheme perspective. But it looks like Slagh's going to 651 00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:39,159 Speaker 2: be out. They traded digs, it looks like Walker's going 652 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:40,680 Speaker 2: to be out, and they had two great safeties in 653 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:43,040 Speaker 2: a lockdown corner. They're probably gonna be without all three 654 00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:45,480 Speaker 2: this week. You know, I really like the Raiders here. 655 00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:47,600 Speaker 2: They should have won that game in Houston last week. 656 00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:50,159 Speaker 2: Hit over seven yards per play and held Houston closer 657 00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:52,840 Speaker 2: to five. I mean, just some fluky stuff happened this 658 00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:55,919 Speaker 2: team's playing really well and the market doesn't really realize it. 659 00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:58,439 Speaker 2: And the Lions are just so banged up in that 660 00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:01,920 Speaker 2: secondary now, which was a strike. They have no running game. Now, 661 00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:04,280 Speaker 2: I will say this, you can throw on the Raiders 662 00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:04,720 Speaker 2: all day. 663 00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:06,959 Speaker 3: So this is also the pressure either yeah, yeah, they 664 00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:07,480 Speaker 3: get no pressure. 665 00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:09,160 Speaker 2: They know they can't cover. This is what I said 666 00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:12,000 Speaker 2: last week. All we played the Lions giants over I 667 00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:14,680 Speaker 2: think in this case Stafford, they'll probably don't even try 668 00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:16,840 Speaker 2: to run that much. He should be able to get 669 00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:19,439 Speaker 2: time his weapons on the outside. He's going to have 670 00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:21,400 Speaker 2: some success through. I think it's a good overplay as well. 671 00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:23,560 Speaker 2: But I think the Raiders find a way to win 672 00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:26,960 Speaker 2: this game without all these their safeties, without Sleigh. It 673 00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:29,360 Speaker 2: looks like this is a tough ass for the Lions. 674 00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:32,720 Speaker 2: The Raiders finally get back home and I think it'll win. 675 00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:36,080 Speaker 4: Personally, I'm going to wait until Friday because this is 676 00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:38,200 Speaker 4: what we just talked about, these injury reports, and I 677 00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:40,120 Speaker 4: really have no idea what's going on with the Lions, 678 00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:42,280 Speaker 4: because number one, I don't know if there's like holding 679 00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:43,800 Speaker 4: slay out on some kind of like it's like a 680 00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:46,680 Speaker 4: Jalen Ramsey thing where he's just in a contract dispute 681 00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:48,360 Speaker 4: and he's just not happy, and so they're not going 682 00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:50,080 Speaker 4: to you know, he's not going to really push to play. 683 00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:54,160 Speaker 4: But so Tracy Worker did not practice, slated, Mike Daniels did, 684 00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:56,040 Speaker 4: and and forget Yeah. 685 00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:56,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, han. 686 00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:58,520 Speaker 4: So like a lot of guys are returning to practice, now, 687 00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:00,719 Speaker 4: does that mean they'll play? I don't know, but I 688 00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:02,240 Speaker 4: do agree. I think this is a it's like a 689 00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:04,720 Speaker 4: coin flip game. I think the Raiders being at home, 690 00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:07,560 Speaker 4: you probably give them the edge, probably the right pick, 691 00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:09,640 Speaker 4: but I think I'm gonna wait a little bit on that. 692 00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:11,280 Speaker 3: One, just just to confirm. 693 00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:14,560 Speaker 4: Let's go to my number two pick, and I'm going Pittsburgh. 694 00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:16,719 Speaker 4: And this is another team a little bit banged up 695 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:20,400 Speaker 4: as well, with James Connor, questionable Ramon Foster in the 696 00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:21,360 Speaker 4: cushion protocol. 697 00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:22,640 Speaker 3: But I think. 698 00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:25,880 Speaker 4: Pittsburgh it gets slept on because they started the season 699 00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:28,360 Speaker 4: with these losses, but they lost to teams that are 700 00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:31,040 Speaker 4: combined believe it's twenty six and four, and then they 701 00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:32,920 Speaker 4: be teams on the other hand that are you know, 702 00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:35,120 Speaker 4: atrocious as well, so it kind of evens out. But 703 00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:39,240 Speaker 4: I think this is a matchup of two in facing 704 00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:41,880 Speaker 4: the Colts a matchup of two more evenly team even 705 00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:44,480 Speaker 4: we match teams than we think the Colts. 706 00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:45,800 Speaker 3: I think a lot of people. 707 00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:47,800 Speaker 4: You know, they're gonna remember that one victory against the 708 00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:50,880 Speaker 4: Chiefs where surprise a lot of people and probably you know, 709 00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:52,720 Speaker 4: everyone's like, Okay, they're for real, and I think they're 710 00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:54,760 Speaker 4: well coached team. But I think the same thing is 711 00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:57,480 Speaker 4: true of the Steelers. I think the Steelers being at 712 00:29:57,480 --> 00:29:59,600 Speaker 4: home helps. I think the fact that the Colts are 713 00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:00,560 Speaker 4: strugg I'm going you know. 714 00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:01,320 Speaker 3: Adam nt Terry. 715 00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:03,360 Speaker 4: I mean, he's been up and down this year, missing 716 00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:06,440 Speaker 4: extra points, missing field goals. So I think if you're 717 00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:08,320 Speaker 4: gonna give me a point in a game where I 718 00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:10,920 Speaker 4: don't think, I think these teams are evenly matched at 719 00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:13,600 Speaker 4: the moment. I think Brissett it's been well schemed, but 720 00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:15,320 Speaker 4: I don't think he's playing quite as well as people 721 00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:17,160 Speaker 4: think or as the early you know, I think he 722 00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:19,520 Speaker 4: had ten touchdowns in the first five or six weeks. 723 00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:21,400 Speaker 3: I don't think he's playing as well as that. 724 00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:24,360 Speaker 4: You know, he's in the bottom twenty, you know, outside 725 00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:27,440 Speaker 4: the top twenty in his Pro Football Focus passing grade. 726 00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:31,840 Speaker 4: So Mason Rudolph Rusty to start that game against the Dolphins. 727 00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:34,760 Speaker 4: If Pittsburgh covers that game or blows him out, I 728 00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:38,320 Speaker 4: think we're looking at probably Pittsburgh favored by one or 729 00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:42,000 Speaker 4: pick them. But since they didn't and Miami covered, We're 730 00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:46,320 Speaker 4: seeing Pittsburgh getting a point here, and I'm gonna take it. 731 00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:49,320 Speaker 4: Mike Tomlin love these spots for tom Win thirty two 732 00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:52,680 Speaker 4: and seventeen with two pushes in his career at sixty 733 00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:56,240 Speaker 4: five percent when the Steelers are an underdog. 734 00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:57,880 Speaker 3: So you know again, I just think. 735 00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:00,280 Speaker 4: You look at that game against the Colts, excuse me, 736 00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:03,120 Speaker 4: against the Broncos for the Colts last week, where that 737 00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:05,800 Speaker 4: was a game that they probably had no business winning 738 00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:09,280 Speaker 4: in the first place. Luckily for them, the Broncos have 739 00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:12,680 Speaker 4: their own issues which seem to always pop up. Now, 740 00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:16,880 Speaker 4: you know in this post Kubiak post Wade Phillips era 741 00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:19,800 Speaker 4: no matter what they do. But you know, they've been 742 00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:22,000 Speaker 4: playing some they lost to the Raiders. They they they've 743 00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:24,160 Speaker 4: kind of been playing these close games where they come 744 00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:25,800 Speaker 4: out on the right side of some of them wrong side. 745 00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:28,560 Speaker 4: But give me the Steelers at home if the gain points. 746 00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:30,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean look that I agree with you here. 747 00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:33,000 Speaker 2: I think the Steeler should be three point favorites. I'm 748 00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:35,840 Speaker 2: gonna be on the Steelers here as well. You know, 749 00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:37,720 Speaker 2: it is a short week and the only time. The 750 00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:39,920 Speaker 2: only thing I hate about fading the Colts is that 751 00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:43,160 Speaker 2: they're just so well coached. Yeah, And I was saying 752 00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:45,120 Speaker 2: on Twitter, who is who are the Colts? And I 753 00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:47,120 Speaker 2: was debating with a few people I just throw out there, 754 00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:49,600 Speaker 2: and the best answer I can come up with is 755 00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:51,280 Speaker 2: there a well coached shitty team. 756 00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:51,800 Speaker 3: Now. 757 00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:54,640 Speaker 2: They also have a really good offensive line, which helps 758 00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:57,320 Speaker 2: might have the best offensive line in football. But that's 759 00:31:57,320 --> 00:31:59,120 Speaker 2: the best dancer I can come up with. And dy'veen 760 00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:01,760 Speaker 2: doing this a lot with smoking mirrors all year. And 761 00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:04,480 Speaker 2: their defense is bad. They can't defend the run at all, 762 00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:06,840 Speaker 2: and all their cornerbacks are out. It looks like to 763 00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:08,959 Speaker 2: see her. They said that they want to hold him 764 00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:11,000 Speaker 2: out until he's fully off, that he's banged up. Kenny 765 00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:13,680 Speaker 2: Moore's banged up, I mean their cornerback, and they have 766 00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:16,560 Speaker 2: no cornerback depth. You know. I think that the Colts, 767 00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:20,680 Speaker 2: because they're five and two, are just overinflated in the 768 00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:24,320 Speaker 2: market right now, when really they've just they've benefited from 769 00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:25,880 Speaker 2: I mean, I look back at that Texans game. They 770 00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:28,640 Speaker 2: have five point seven yards per play, the Texans six 771 00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:31,920 Speaker 2: point four. They're well coached here, but I do think 772 00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:34,400 Speaker 2: that the Steelers have They have a defensive line that 773 00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:38,080 Speaker 2: can challenge the Colts offensive line. They're number one ADJUSTEDT 774 00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:40,360 Speaker 2: sack right, They're going to get some pressure. Their offensive 775 00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:42,800 Speaker 2: line is great, and they're still not allowing pressure. Now. 776 00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:45,760 Speaker 2: The run game is struggled for the Steelers, but I 777 00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:47,240 Speaker 2: think a lot of that has to do with their backs. 778 00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:50,120 Speaker 2: I actually prefer Samuel in there as far as running 779 00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:52,440 Speaker 2: the ball, so I think the Steelers can move it 780 00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:54,640 Speaker 2: through the air end on the ground here, I think 781 00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:56,920 Speaker 2: they'll have a special teams advantage with the kicking in 782 00:32:57,040 --> 00:33:00,000 Speaker 2: Hinz Field, which is an easy five and two cold. 783 00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:03,360 Speaker 2: It's just that's what you're getting here. If they lost 784 00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:06,000 Speaker 2: a couple of the games, you know, they easily could have. 785 00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:08,280 Speaker 2: I think that this line would be Steelers minus three, 786 00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:11,440 Speaker 2: which is where I have it. From yards per play perspective, 787 00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:15,000 Speaker 2: the Colts are averaging five point four on offense Steelers 788 00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:17,600 Speaker 2: five point three. I mean these are bottom ten offenses 789 00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:22,000 Speaker 2: overall from a yards per play perspective. Defensively, Colts are 790 00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:25,440 Speaker 2: allowing six point two that's bottom ten in the NFL. 791 00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:29,960 Speaker 2: The Steelers are five point three, that's top ten, and 792 00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:32,600 Speaker 2: that includes the whole season before they got Fitzpatrick. Their 793 00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:35,680 Speaker 2: defense and their success rates since they've gotten Fitzpatrick across 794 00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:38,520 Speaker 2: the board has been significantly better. It's one of the 795 00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:42,400 Speaker 2: most underrated acquisitions of the season so far. You know, 796 00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:45,000 Speaker 2: it's not a star player, but their defense has benefited 797 00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:47,240 Speaker 2: tremendously from it. I agree that I like the Steelers here. 798 00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:49,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, and just a couple of stats to back you 799 00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:51,720 Speaker 4: know that up the Steelers. I told you always like 800 00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:54,640 Speaker 4: to look at those early down success rates. And the 801 00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:59,000 Speaker 4: Steelers number six in past defense at forty seven percent, 802 00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:02,280 Speaker 4: seventeen against the runoff So at forty seven percent, the 803 00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:06,720 Speaker 4: Colts are worse in both areas. They're number sixteen against 804 00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:09,680 Speaker 4: the pass and number twenty one against the run. 805 00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:11,880 Speaker 3: Better offense, I think for the Steelers. 806 00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:16,080 Speaker 4: And Adam Vanteri has now missed four extra points and 807 00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:20,239 Speaker 4: four field goals in seven games, and that's not what 808 00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:23,080 Speaker 4: you want now kicking outdoors in a close game. 809 00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:25,920 Speaker 2: So yeah, all right. For my third pick, I'm going 810 00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:29,840 Speaker 2: with the Bucks plus six in Seattle. Everyone out there 811 00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:32,960 Speaker 2: already knows that I love fading Seattle. This team could 812 00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:36,400 Speaker 2: easily have five losses, but the defense is still a mess. 813 00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:40,320 Speaker 2: And now my favorite player also just went on I 814 00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:41,879 Speaker 2: don't know if you saw this, just went on high 815 00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:43,000 Speaker 2: are Tedrick Thompson. 816 00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:45,600 Speaker 3: It's that an addition by subtraction though. 817 00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:48,400 Speaker 2: But it would be. But then they don't have anyone 818 00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:52,000 Speaker 2: right now because Diggs is not healthy. So Carol came out, 819 00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:53,960 Speaker 2: I said, look, this is a great sign and getting 820 00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:56,920 Speaker 2: Digs a great safety from the lines. Carol came out 821 00:34:56,920 --> 00:34:59,319 Speaker 2: today and said, we found some stuff that we still 822 00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:03,040 Speaker 2: have to work out. AKA, he wasn't healthy, so he's 823 00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:05,160 Speaker 2: not practicing. It doesn't look like he's gonna play. They 824 00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:08,200 Speaker 2: got Blair backed. I mean their secondary is a mess. 825 00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:10,200 Speaker 2: Matt Shob, I know some of it came in garbage time. 826 00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:14,120 Speaker 2: Matt Shob threw for what four hundred last week, so 827 00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:17,160 Speaker 2: the secondary still has major issues. They'd also don't get pressure. 828 00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:19,800 Speaker 2: So this Bucks offense, which can throw against anyone on 829 00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:21,719 Speaker 2: a good day, with two of the best receivers of 830 00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:23,920 Speaker 2: the NFL, should have a ball out there as long 831 00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:26,680 Speaker 2: as you don't get a bad, horrible Winston day. And 832 00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:28,680 Speaker 2: then the other side of the ball. State, no one 833 00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:30,880 Speaker 2: can run on the Bucks. That's just a given with 834 00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:33,440 Speaker 2: their scheme and their front. Seattle now is down the 835 00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:36,439 Speaker 2: third center, and it's a kid who's just not big. 836 00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:39,560 Speaker 2: He's a smart kid, Joey Hunt, I think his name is. 837 00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:42,960 Speaker 2: And going against those there's mammoth dudes inside on the 838 00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:46,560 Speaker 2: Bucks defense, it's gonna be. They're gonna blow up some players. 839 00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:48,360 Speaker 2: They're gonna blow up the run game. Bucks number one 840 00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:51,240 Speaker 2: in the NFL against the run, and they're gonna bring pressure. 841 00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:53,800 Speaker 2: They're gonna bring pressure off the edge to prevent Wilson 842 00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:56,480 Speaker 2: from scrambling. Now, Wilson will have some success throwing against 843 00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:59,600 Speaker 2: the ball, that's an understatement. Everyone has success thro the Seahawks. 844 00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:01,399 Speaker 2: One of his was to run. The Bucks aren't gonna 845 00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:03,680 Speaker 2: let them do that. And I also think that the 846 00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:05,960 Speaker 2: Bucks can keep up with the Seahawks through the air. 847 00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:08,279 Speaker 2: And I don't even think the Bucks are gonna It's 848 00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:09,799 Speaker 2: not like the Bucks can really run the ball. Their 849 00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:12,320 Speaker 2: Bucks are just gonna do what they did last week, 850 00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:14,839 Speaker 2: and I think they can have just as much success. 851 00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:18,240 Speaker 2: So UH just banged up offensive line up the middle 852 00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:21,200 Speaker 2: with a brand new center and the decimated secondary. Give 853 00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:23,880 Speaker 2: me that Bucks offense, give me the run defense, and 854 00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:25,799 Speaker 2: then the Bucks, by the way, speaking of records, are 855 00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:28,000 Speaker 2: two and five, they could be four and three. They won, 856 00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:30,360 Speaker 2: you know, they rolled in LA they won in Carolina. 857 00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:34,399 Speaker 2: And you have a guy and Bruce Arians who's four 858 00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:37,000 Speaker 2: and one in Seattle, in Seattle not you know, so 859 00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:38,920 Speaker 2: he's gone on the road. He's familiar with this team. 860 00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:41,799 Speaker 2: These two teams are their records could be flipped with 861 00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:44,919 Speaker 2: a few bounces of the ball without Russell Wilson being 862 00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:46,680 Speaker 2: a god. And then you see what you would see 863 00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:48,440 Speaker 2: this line three or four. So give me the Bucks. 864 00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:51,160 Speaker 4: My process, you know, for for kind of analyzing these 865 00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:53,040 Speaker 4: games and deciding who to bet is you know, I'm 866 00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:55,560 Speaker 4: looking at all the matchups and all the numbers and analytics. 867 00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:59,080 Speaker 4: We talk about pressure and early down success and uh, 868 00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:02,239 Speaker 4: special teams, all that stuff, and then I use bet 869 00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:04,480 Speaker 4: labs a lot for the kind of the intangible factors, 870 00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:05,120 Speaker 4: you know, the trends. 871 00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:06,880 Speaker 3: You know, I'm not a person that's just gonna blindly 872 00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:07,560 Speaker 3: bet on any. 873 00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:09,319 Speaker 4: Trend, but I like to see, you know, okay, in 874 00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:12,719 Speaker 4: this given situation, you know, before houses kind of turned 875 00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:15,240 Speaker 4: out and so I have all these kind of trends 876 00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:17,280 Speaker 4: saved that you know, you know, for those not familiar 877 00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:19,440 Speaker 4: with bet labs, you know, for every game, any trend 878 00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:22,040 Speaker 4: you have saved, like say, you know, underdogs by ten 879 00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:23,919 Speaker 4: points or whatever. You know, it'll pop up for any 880 00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:26,160 Speaker 4: game that it matches. And that's how I kind of, 881 00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:27,480 Speaker 4: you know, try to avoid some. 882 00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:28,360 Speaker 3: Of the traps, you know. 883 00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:30,759 Speaker 4: That's why a lot of times I say, hey, you know, 884 00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:33,480 Speaker 4: everything says the bet against the Pats here, but I 885 00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:36,160 Speaker 4: don't know. And usually there's always these trends for the 886 00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:38,840 Speaker 4: Seahawks too, like, okay, you know, no matter what you think, 887 00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:40,840 Speaker 4: the Seahawks have some kind of edge, whether it's p 888 00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:44,360 Speaker 4: Carol Russell Wilson. Well, this week, there are four trends 889 00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:46,960 Speaker 4: that are popping for me in this game for the spread, 890 00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:50,560 Speaker 4: and all four say to bet the Bucks. James Winston 891 00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:52,920 Speaker 4: as a dog is over fifty percent against the spread, 892 00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:57,000 Speaker 4: Bruce Arians as a dog fifty four percent. Underdogs when 893 00:37:57,080 --> 00:37:59,120 Speaker 4: the total has moved down at least two and a 894 00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:02,319 Speaker 4: half points are hitting at at fifty four fifty eight 895 00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:05,919 Speaker 4: percent on the season, and rogue dogs getting fifty percent 896 00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:08,279 Speaker 4: or more of the money. Since the start of last season, 897 00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:10,560 Speaker 4: are covering at sixty four percent, which the Bucks are 898 00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:13,000 Speaker 4: currently getting so and nothing for the Seahawks this week. 899 00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:15,440 Speaker 2: You know, even you're catching six, you could have Russell 900 00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:18,680 Speaker 2: Wilson a god mode at the end to win, but 901 00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:21,520 Speaker 2: you're still good catching six. So it's not like this 902 00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:22,480 Speaker 2: is a pick them. 903 00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:25,200 Speaker 4: Right right, Yeah, it's it just really comes down to 904 00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:29,960 Speaker 4: how many turnovers Jamis Winston commits, because that's been the 905 00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:32,480 Speaker 4: difference in these games, and especially with them failing to 906 00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:35,279 Speaker 4: get that call last week really just sunk them. 907 00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:37,000 Speaker 3: And then Shot Perlman, I mean they got avent. 908 00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:38,640 Speaker 4: They just got to play Scotti, Miller or something for 909 00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:41,000 Speaker 4: Shot Peraman has been the biggest with one of the 910 00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:43,440 Speaker 4: biggest bus giving them absolutely. 911 00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:44,480 Speaker 3: Nothing on offense. 912 00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:47,480 Speaker 4: For my last pick, and this is this is when 913 00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:50,719 Speaker 4: I might regret, but I think it's finally time that 914 00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:53,520 Speaker 4: I'm going to bet on the Cleveland Browns. 915 00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:55,920 Speaker 3: They're going to Mile High. 916 00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:57,719 Speaker 4: I guess it's kind of on brand still for me 917 00:38:57,760 --> 00:39:00,279 Speaker 4: because I do love to bet against the Broncos. U 918 00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:03,719 Speaker 4: Joe Flacco called out the team the coaching staff last 919 00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:06,799 Speaker 4: week and mysteriously came down with a neck injury and 920 00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:10,040 Speaker 4: now is out indefinitely. Uh, I wonder if there's any 921 00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:13,040 Speaker 4: connection there, But you mentioned this stuff. This is a 922 00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:16,000 Speaker 4: Cleveland team that went into Foxborough played well enough to 923 00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:17,360 Speaker 4: win outside of the miscues. 924 00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:19,840 Speaker 3: You know, the all the talk. 925 00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:22,520 Speaker 4: Is on Freddie kin Kitchens and the mistakes he made. 926 00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:24,440 Speaker 4: I think he's gonna if there's ever a week where 927 00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:26,359 Speaker 4: he's gonna kind of be on his game and think 928 00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:28,360 Speaker 4: about what he's doing out there, I think it's this 929 00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:31,120 Speaker 4: week and they're going against Brandon Allen for the Broncos, 930 00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:32,960 Speaker 4: who had probably had no idea that he was going 931 00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:36,080 Speaker 4: to start even a few days ago. Look back at 932 00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:38,719 Speaker 4: his preseason numbers, he's been in the league for four years. 933 00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:40,120 Speaker 3: I believe it is he. 934 00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:43,320 Speaker 4: You know, his in totality, his career numbers are still 935 00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:45,520 Speaker 4: like the stuff of bad NFL starters, which is not 936 00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:47,480 Speaker 4: what I like to see because I want, you know, 937 00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:50,880 Speaker 4: if you've played four preseasons, I want your preseason numbers 938 00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:53,880 Speaker 4: to kind of look decent, you know, so when you 939 00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:56,279 Speaker 4: come to the NFL, obviously their numbers aren't gonna be 940 00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:58,480 Speaker 4: as good. But six point seven yards in an attempt, 941 00:39:58,560 --> 00:39:59,920 Speaker 4: it's a completion percentage. 942 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:01,279 Speaker 3: Think sixty two to sixty. 943 00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:04,480 Speaker 4: Three more picks and touchdowns, So you know, I think 944 00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:09,319 Speaker 4: Cleveland Denzel Ward healthier. You know, they can kind of 945 00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:12,560 Speaker 4: give the Broncos problems. Courtland Sutton has struggled when he's 946 00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:14,680 Speaker 4: been the only the number one guy. You know, he's 947 00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:17,120 Speaker 4: kind of gotten by big play a real good stiff 948 00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:19,840 Speaker 4: arm last week, but caught only three balls against the Colts. 949 00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:22,799 Speaker 4: I think if you can shut him down, it's going 950 00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:25,000 Speaker 4: to be tough for the Broncos to move the football. 951 00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:28,080 Speaker 4: I think Cleveland getting better on defense, and all they 952 00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:29,600 Speaker 4: have to do is kind of win with the mistakes, 953 00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:31,920 Speaker 4: which this is the kind of game where, unlike I 954 00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:33,880 Speaker 4: think the Patriots, even if you make a couple of 955 00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:36,200 Speaker 4: mistakes against the Broncos, it's going to be hard for 956 00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:38,080 Speaker 4: the Broncos on the other end to take advantage because 957 00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:39,320 Speaker 4: you know they want to run the ball. They're not 958 00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:40,719 Speaker 4: going to take too many chances. And now they got 959 00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:42,759 Speaker 4: a backup quarterback. So as much as it might have, 960 00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:44,600 Speaker 4: you know, if Joe Flacco was in the lineup and 961 00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:46,520 Speaker 4: he called them out, maybe they're more aggressive this week. 962 00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:48,960 Speaker 4: But with Brandon Allen, I don't know how much more 963 00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:51,319 Speaker 4: aggressive you can be because you're going against you know 964 00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:54,200 Speaker 4: that Cleveland front Miles Garrett, you're going against Denzel Ward 965 00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:56,640 Speaker 4: in a game that's projected to be well scoring. 966 00:40:56,760 --> 00:40:58,279 Speaker 3: I think you probably have to play it close to 967 00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:00,000 Speaker 3: the best. So don't feel great. 968 00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:02,560 Speaker 4: About betting on Cleveland, but I think this is a 969 00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:06,080 Speaker 4: time where they put it together and get and do 970 00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:07,760 Speaker 4: something convincing on a football field. 971 00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:10,680 Speaker 2: Look, I don't have much faith in everything that I'm 972 00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:14,880 Speaker 2: hearing and have seen with Brandon Allen, but as a result, 973 00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:17,920 Speaker 2: I think what you're going to see here is the 974 00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:21,960 Speaker 2: Broncos run the ball forty three times maybe, and that's 975 00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:24,319 Speaker 2: one of the weaknesses of the Browns, especially you know, 976 00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:26,719 Speaker 2: end easy passes. They're going to get easy passes. And 977 00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:28,640 Speaker 2: the weakness on the Browns with their corners back is 978 00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:32,040 Speaker 2: that linebacker and you know in that interior their defensive line. 979 00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:34,840 Speaker 2: If you look at some of their defensive rush metrics 980 00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:38,880 Speaker 2: on that defensive line, they're ugly. So, you know, Broncos 981 00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:41,680 Speaker 2: defense continues to play really well every week and this 982 00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:44,600 Speaker 2: offense continues to let them down every single week and 983 00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:47,640 Speaker 2: they don't let up any explosive plays. They're top five 984 00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:49,680 Speaker 2: in the NFL, and that which is you know, really 985 00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:51,840 Speaker 2: what the Browns want to do. I think the Browns 986 00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:53,719 Speaker 2: are the better team. I think I'm not betting the 987 00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:56,600 Speaker 2: Broncos here. I'm just playing Devil's avacate people listening. Where 988 00:41:56,600 --> 00:41:59,320 Speaker 2: are the Browns out emotionally after losing that game? Just vomiting? 989 00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:01,959 Speaker 2: Going to two and I don't know, there's seasons not over, 990 00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:04,959 Speaker 2: but going to Denver here for a second straight road game. 991 00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:07,560 Speaker 2: They need to stop the run. If they commit to 992 00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:09,360 Speaker 2: stopping the run and do it, they should win this 993 00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:13,160 Speaker 2: game fairly easily. They just can't make dumb Brown's mistakes. 994 00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:13,959 Speaker 2: But that's it. 995 00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:16,360 Speaker 3: Like the Browns should have been better all year. We've 996 00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:17,120 Speaker 3: talked about it. 997 00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:18,600 Speaker 4: This is the game where they can stick with the 998 00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:20,440 Speaker 4: run if they want, with Chubb. And I think the 999 00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:23,640 Speaker 4: Broncos are going to struggle too, because the Broncos are 1000 00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:26,000 Speaker 4: good when there's like one receiver to stop, like you 1001 00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:28,360 Speaker 4: saw the Colts struggle because you shut down to y 1002 00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:29,759 Speaker 4: Hilt and I have to get two catches. You know, 1003 00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:31,480 Speaker 4: Chris Harris, he can shut down, he can take out 1004 00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:33,319 Speaker 4: one guy. But when the Browns have two guys, they 1005 00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:35,719 Speaker 4: have Landry and they have Beckham, so I think it's 1006 00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:36,200 Speaker 4: a little. 1007 00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:38,960 Speaker 3: Tougher for them, so fair enough. You got it all right. 1008 00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:43,040 Speaker 3: So that wraps up our Sunday six pack. 1009 00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:45,560 Speaker 6: Hope you're enjoying this great action network podcast. I want 1010 00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:48,120 Speaker 6: to make sure you know about the locked On podcast network. 1011 00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:51,080 Speaker 6: Locked On has a daily podcast on your favorite team. 1012 00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:52,960 Speaker 2: Welcome to you, Lockdown forty nine ers. 1013 00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:55,080 Speaker 3: You are locked down of the Dallas marriage everybody for 1014 00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:57,279 Speaker 3: the Lockdown Lakers podcast. Let's Go. 1015 00:42:57,560 --> 00:43:00,319 Speaker 6: Locked On podcasts are hosted by the local x birts 1016 00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:02,600 Speaker 6: who know your team better than anyone and give you 1017 00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:05,200 Speaker 6: the inside scoop. So go to your podcast app and 1018 00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:09,280 Speaker 6: search locked on your favorite team, subscribe to your locked 1019 00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:13,160 Speaker 6: On podcast, and. 1020 00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:17,000 Speaker 3: Now let us jump in to our favorite over under. 1021 00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:19,239 Speaker 4: This is this is an ugly one. I think the 1022 00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:22,919 Speaker 4: game's going to be ugly, so I'm going with the under. 1023 00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:24,400 Speaker 3: I got it. I got it at thirty seven. 1024 00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:26,680 Speaker 4: But the under in Buffalo Washington it's I think it's 1025 00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:28,120 Speaker 4: down a thirty six to five, So we'll go with 1026 00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:30,319 Speaker 4: that for the purposes of the show. 1027 00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:32,600 Speaker 3: But listen, it's a low total. 1028 00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:35,360 Speaker 4: Usually you're trying to be contrariant and bet overs and 1029 00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:37,719 Speaker 4: low totals, but I think this is on point and 1030 00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:41,239 Speaker 4: the fact that it's falling, signifies that Josh Allen in 1031 00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:43,360 Speaker 4: his starts the under is twelve and six. 1032 00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:44,600 Speaker 3: And then it looks like it's going to be another 1033 00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:45,439 Speaker 3: one of these windy games. 1034 00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:47,319 Speaker 4: I know it didn't pay off in the Philly game 1035 00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:49,239 Speaker 4: last week against Buffalo, but it looks like it's going 1036 00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:51,480 Speaker 4: to be double digit wind. The under hits at a 1037 00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:54,120 Speaker 4: fifty six percent rate going back to two thousand and 1038 00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:57,239 Speaker 4: three when wind is ten miles peror plus. I know 1039 00:43:57,239 --> 00:43:59,319 Speaker 4: a lot of people tend to ask about that, how 1040 00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:01,640 Speaker 4: to win, to effect the totals in these games, So 1041 00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:04,279 Speaker 4: that's really it's when you hit that double digit mark, 1042 00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:06,600 Speaker 4: and so when you see even nine mile per hour wins, 1043 00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:08,520 Speaker 4: there's really no change. Right when you hit that ten 1044 00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:11,239 Speaker 4: you start to see the under hit at a higher rate. 1045 00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:14,320 Speaker 4: So I expect another ugly game. I expect Washington to 1046 00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:15,880 Speaker 4: try to keep it on the ground. They saw Philly 1047 00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:19,040 Speaker 4: had success with Jordan Howard running against the. 1048 00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:20,040 Speaker 3: Buffalo Bills last week. 1049 00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:23,959 Speaker 4: Buffalo gives up pretty much no zero big plays down 1050 00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:26,960 Speaker 4: the field, so Terry McLaurin, he might get his catches underneath, 1051 00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:30,680 Speaker 4: but I don't expect much from Washington down the field. 1052 00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:33,520 Speaker 4: And this Buffalo offense in a game where they're the 1053 00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:36,600 Speaker 4: better team. I think that they are not going to 1054 00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:38,120 Speaker 4: have Josh Allen trying to do too much on the 1055 00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:40,120 Speaker 4: other side either, So you just gonna have two old 1056 00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:42,400 Speaker 4: school coaches. We want to run the football and not 1057 00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:44,000 Speaker 4: give up big plays. We saw it kind of play 1058 00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:49,480 Speaker 4: out Washington Minnesota, nineteen to nine game Washington San Francisco. 1059 00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:52,040 Speaker 4: Granted in the bad weather, but nine nothing game. Give 1060 00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:53,480 Speaker 4: me the under, even though it's low. 1061 00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:55,560 Speaker 2: I can't disagree with that. I mean, the only thing 1062 00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:57,799 Speaker 2: I would disagree with you is the numbers really low. 1063 00:44:57,840 --> 00:44:59,560 Speaker 2: You just got to avoid flukes. But as far as 1064 00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:01,560 Speaker 2: you awoard, that should be good, all right. And then 1065 00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:04,000 Speaker 2: for my total, I'm going with an under as well. 1066 00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:06,200 Speaker 2: I'm waiting on this right now. I've been putting in 1067 00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:09,319 Speaker 2: the app the under Tennessee Carolina. It's under at forty 1068 00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:10,400 Speaker 2: one to forty one and a half right now. I'm 1069 00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:12,400 Speaker 2: going to see if it goes to forty two. Look, 1070 00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:16,399 Speaker 2: there's only been three defenses in the last decade that 1071 00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:19,160 Speaker 2: have gone the first seven weeks of the year without 1072 00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:21,880 Speaker 2: allowing an opponent to score more than twenty points. The 1073 00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:27,160 Speaker 2: twenty thirteen Chiefs the twenty nineteen Patriots and the twenty 1074 00:45:27,239 --> 00:45:31,320 Speaker 2: nineteen Titans. This defense is real and the reason is 1075 00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:35,040 Speaker 2: their front end. They added Jeffrey Simmons, who I love. 1076 00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:36,840 Speaker 2: I thought he was the best pick of the NFL draft. 1077 00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:39,319 Speaker 2: Is on the defensive side. Now Bosa went, I mean 1078 00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:40,880 Speaker 2: he wasn't gonna go wun. He had some issues. I'll 1079 00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:44,319 Speaker 2: feel everything's been great with Simmons. Simmons I believe has 1080 00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:47,520 Speaker 2: a pass block win rate. He doesn't qualify yet of 1081 00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:51,080 Speaker 2: like twenty eight. Bosa's like setting records at like fifteen 1082 00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:53,600 Speaker 2: or six in say numbers for Simmons at his first 1083 00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:56,239 Speaker 2: two starts. Put him on that on that defensive line, 1084 00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:59,200 Speaker 2: and they're three to four with Daikwon Jones and Darrell Casey. 1085 00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:02,560 Speaker 2: Oh boy. Both of these offensive lines are the bottom 1086 00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:04,520 Speaker 2: ten as far as run blocking is concerned. If you 1087 00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:07,320 Speaker 2: look at adjusted lineyards. That's been some of the weakness 1088 00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:09,920 Speaker 2: of the Panthers. So I'm not as afraid as you 1089 00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:11,719 Speaker 2: know of what we saw last year, and I think 1090 00:46:11,719 --> 00:46:14,000 Speaker 2: we'll get a really good effort from the Panthers after 1091 00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:16,560 Speaker 2: they gave up fifty plus last week. I'm not afraid 1092 00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:20,520 Speaker 2: of Ryan Tannehill. I think we're seeing some regression here 1093 00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:24,880 Speaker 2: with Kyle Allen of late. It's also a huge game 1094 00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:27,239 Speaker 2: for both teams, right, So the Panthers are sitting at 1095 00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:30,000 Speaker 2: four and three, the Titans are sitting at four and four, 1096 00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:34,080 Speaker 2: So you might see both coaches play and you know, 1097 00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:35,880 Speaker 2: the titansuos all the time, but play it even a 1098 00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:38,560 Speaker 2: little closer to the vest, not wanting to make a 1099 00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:41,640 Speaker 2: mistake with their quarterbacks who weren't starters to start the year. 1100 00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:44,279 Speaker 2: We basically have two backups here. So I love this 1101 00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:47,720 Speaker 2: this Titans defense, especially their front with Jeffrey Simmons, remember 1102 00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:50,560 Speaker 2: the name. One of the best defensive linemen in the NFL. 1103 00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:52,120 Speaker 2: For I think he's going to be He's only played 1104 00:46:52,120 --> 00:46:54,000 Speaker 2: two games. I thought he was coming out of college. 1105 00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:57,880 Speaker 2: His numbers in college were record setting. Since PFF started 1106 00:46:57,920 --> 00:47:00,239 Speaker 2: tracking metrics of defensive line. He was number one in 1107 00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:02,600 Speaker 2: the last five or six years. But that defense is 1108 00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:05,120 Speaker 2: really good. It's really solid. They also don't allow up 1109 00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:07,759 Speaker 2: anything explosive. Give me the under weight on the forty two, 1110 00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:10,120 Speaker 2: but I still like it. Under forty one or forty yeah, well, I. 1111 00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:10,920 Speaker 3: Like it as well. You know. 1112 00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:12,239 Speaker 4: The forty two is just to kind of protect you 1113 00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:14,480 Speaker 4: against like something like a thirty five seven. It's not 1114 00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:17,040 Speaker 4: too much out common number, but yeah, if you can 1115 00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:19,560 Speaker 4: get it, why not. A note to our listeners, We've 1116 00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:21,880 Speaker 4: had a lot of people reaching out to us about 1117 00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:26,320 Speaker 4: Action Network swag. How about a free Action Network hoodie? Well, 1118 00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:30,040 Speaker 4: we're running a contest this weekend. To enter, just leave 1119 00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:34,360 Speaker 4: this podcast, the Action Network podcast a review on Apple Podcasts, 1120 00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:35,840 Speaker 4: which you can do right now. 1121 00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:38,160 Speaker 3: From your phone. End your review with two things. 1122 00:47:38,239 --> 00:47:42,319 Speaker 4: Number one, your favorite NFL Week nine underdog and we'll 1123 00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:44,920 Speaker 4: get to our underdog moneyline parlay in just a second. 1124 00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:48,719 Speaker 4: And to your Twitter handle. We will reach out to 1125 00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:51,799 Speaker 4: the winner on Twitter on Monday, so be sure to 1126 00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:54,800 Speaker 4: check that out if you want a free Action Network hoodie. 1127 00:47:54,920 --> 00:47:58,680 Speaker 4: All right, now, let's get into our weekly teaser. 1128 00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:03,520 Speaker 1: Segment six point Deezers Stuck? 1129 00:48:04,239 --> 00:48:05,719 Speaker 3: Where are you going with your teaser this week? 1130 00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:09,080 Speaker 2: I'm gonna go with the Jaguars and the Chargers. We 1131 00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:11,680 Speaker 2: already talked about the Jaguars getting them to over seven 1132 00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:15,120 Speaker 2: or seven and above. I think in a favorable spot 1133 00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:17,200 Speaker 2: for them in eighteen that they've played well. And I'm 1134 00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:19,040 Speaker 2: going to with the Chargers here. I think that the 1135 00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:20,719 Speaker 2: Chargers and by the way the charges. Every game the 1136 00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:23,279 Speaker 2: Chargers plays one possession, and if you throw out the 1137 00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:26,360 Speaker 2: Dolphins game, that's true again this year Philip Rivers is 1138 00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:28,919 Speaker 2: a dog forty one, twenty nine and four overall fifty 1139 00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:30,920 Speaker 2: eight point six percent against the spread. But if you 1140 00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:33,560 Speaker 2: chease Philip Rivers as a dog throughout his whole career 1141 00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:36,520 Speaker 2: six points, you'd be sixty one and thirteen. It's eighty 1142 00:48:36,560 --> 00:48:39,759 Speaker 2: two percent. All these games are are one possession that 1143 00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:42,920 Speaker 2: they played this year. Oh Kong back makes a huge difference, 1144 00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:45,320 Speaker 2: and I thought there would be some rust Nope, elite 1145 00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:49,480 Speaker 2: pass blocking grade last week and they had two poor tackles. 1146 00:48:49,520 --> 00:48:52,240 Speaker 2: When you have now just one, it's so much easier 1147 00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:54,400 Speaker 2: to scheme. You can just help on one side. It 1148 00:48:54,520 --> 00:48:57,120 Speaker 2: just helps their offense tremendously. You also have Melvin Gordon 1149 00:48:57,120 --> 00:48:59,279 Speaker 2: getting back up to speed. He hasn't been great, but 1150 00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:01,640 Speaker 2: he missed camp but all that time and he's been awful, 1151 00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:03,520 Speaker 2: so I expect them to be a little better. They 1152 00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:06,040 Speaker 2: also have the new offensive coordinator here, so you're going 1153 00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:08,800 Speaker 2: to see some hopefully new things that wasn't Hunt wasn't doing. 1154 00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:12,319 Speaker 2: Also throws the element of surprise in for the Packers. 1155 00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:15,360 Speaker 2: And so I think that works in their favor as well. 1156 00:49:15,719 --> 00:49:18,120 Speaker 2: The Packers are really good. Go pack oh, I say 1157 00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:20,759 Speaker 2: every podcket. They're my only future. But they're overvalued in 1158 00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:22,400 Speaker 2: the market right now. They get a fortunate on a 1159 00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:24,719 Speaker 2: number of games. They're getting fortunate every week with injuries, 1160 00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:27,759 Speaker 2: so they're overvalued here. But Okong against one of the 1161 00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:29,840 Speaker 2: Smiths will help. They can help on the other This 1162 00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:31,879 Speaker 2: will be a one possession game with a couple minutes ago. 1163 00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:32,920 Speaker 3: I totally agree. 1164 00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:34,399 Speaker 4: I think Andy Reid kind of gave him a gift 1165 00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:37,000 Speaker 4: last week punting that football. I think there's a few 1166 00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:39,359 Speaker 4: teams that you're looking at teasing this week. I think 1167 00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:43,960 Speaker 4: the Lions, the Chargers are in the conversation with the 1168 00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:45,960 Speaker 4: Steelers and the Jaguars. So those are the two I'm 1169 00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:49,000 Speaker 4: going with since those are my top two picks this week, 1170 00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:51,799 Speaker 4: teasing the Jacks to seven and a half and the 1171 00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:54,880 Speaker 4: Steelers two seven. Of course, a standard six point teasers 1172 00:49:54,880 --> 00:49:57,640 Speaker 4: when you get six extra points against the spread for 1173 00:49:57,680 --> 00:50:00,680 Speaker 4: each of the teams you're picking first flight, we juice payout, 1174 00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:05,400 Speaker 4: so you're going Chargers and Jags. I'm going Steelers and Jags. 1175 00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:10,280 Speaker 4: Hopefully we hit these teasers. Let's get right into our 1176 00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:13,760 Speaker 4: next segment, the underdog moneyline parlay. 1177 00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:20,920 Speaker 1: Turning good weekends into great weekends. It's time for the 1178 00:50:21,120 --> 00:50:22,400 Speaker 1: money line parlay. 1179 00:50:23,440 --> 00:50:26,280 Speaker 4: All right, we started out the season strong. My Panthers 1180 00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:29,040 Speaker 4: did not come through last week. Your fade Mitch did somehow, 1181 00:50:29,239 --> 00:50:31,880 Speaker 4: of course, with another missfield goal for the Chicago Bears. 1182 00:50:32,200 --> 00:50:34,520 Speaker 3: This week starts off stuck. Who you got? 1183 00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:36,640 Speaker 2: I don't even need to go into this. Ravens, you know, 1184 00:50:36,640 --> 00:50:37,359 Speaker 2: I already. 1185 00:50:37,080 --> 00:50:40,200 Speaker 4: Know, yeah, and I'm going with the Jags again mentioned it. 1186 00:50:40,239 --> 00:50:42,400 Speaker 4: I just think it's a bad time for Uston to 1187 00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:45,879 Speaker 4: be traveling banged up. So this payout would be four 1188 00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:49,440 Speaker 4: point four to one. So if you put one hundred 1189 00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:52,480 Speaker 4: dollars down, you'd win for thirty nine for a total 1190 00:50:52,480 --> 00:50:56,200 Speaker 4: payout of five thirty nine. To calculate payouts for parlays 1191 00:50:56,200 --> 00:50:58,680 Speaker 4: and any other bet type, you can go to actionnetwork 1192 00:50:58,719 --> 00:51:03,400 Speaker 4: dot com slash calculators and now you're. 1193 00:51:03,239 --> 00:51:04,520 Speaker 2: Gonna be bu By the way, you're gonna be upset 1194 00:51:04,520 --> 00:51:07,440 Speaker 2: if you have a bad week after you're betting the 1195 00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:09,160 Speaker 2: Browns and fading your boy Watson. 1196 00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:11,719 Speaker 4: I know, all right, I mean, but generally I like 1197 00:51:11,760 --> 00:51:14,040 Speaker 4: to take Watson when he's like a road. 1198 00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:15,640 Speaker 2: Dog and you like to fait the Broncos. 1199 00:51:15,640 --> 00:51:18,160 Speaker 3: So you're, eh, you know that's it's on brand. We'll 1200 00:51:18,160 --> 00:51:18,840 Speaker 3: see what happens. 1201 00:51:20,120 --> 00:51:22,600 Speaker 4: Now, we'll quickly cover the best of the rest, all 1202 00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:26,040 Speaker 4: the games that did not make it into any other segment. 1203 00:51:26,080 --> 00:51:28,759 Speaker 4: Would start with the Chicago Bears. They are going to 1204 00:51:28,760 --> 00:51:32,239 Speaker 4: Philly as five point underdogs, fifty seven percent of the 1205 00:51:32,280 --> 00:51:34,600 Speaker 4: bet seventy one percent of the dollars on the Eagles. 1206 00:51:34,640 --> 00:51:37,080 Speaker 4: The over under his forty two, with sixty five percent 1207 00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:39,640 Speaker 4: of the bets, eighty nine percent of the money on 1208 00:51:39,719 --> 00:51:40,120 Speaker 4: the under. 1209 00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:43,160 Speaker 2: Jashaun Jackson might be back. That'll help the Eagles offense tremendously. 1210 00:51:43,200 --> 00:51:45,560 Speaker 2: If he isn't and healthy, it'll open everything up. It's 1211 00:51:45,560 --> 00:51:48,480 Speaker 2: another good matchup for the Eagles because now Alan Robinson's 1212 00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:51,040 Speaker 2: a legit number one, he could have some matchup problem 1213 00:51:51,040 --> 00:51:53,759 Speaker 2: and so will Mac with Dillard at left tackle who's 1214 00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:56,360 Speaker 2: still getting up to speed. But generally speaking, this is 1215 00:51:56,440 --> 00:51:58,080 Speaker 2: just like the Bills last week. While I was on 1216 00:51:58,120 --> 00:52:00,600 Speaker 2: the Eagles, the two worst quarterbacks growing more than ten 1217 00:52:00,680 --> 00:52:03,200 Speaker 2: yards down the field Josh Allen and Mitch Trubisky. So 1218 00:52:03,239 --> 00:52:05,680 Speaker 2: it's Alec Mitch Trubisky's gonna go out there and shred 1219 00:52:05,920 --> 00:52:08,560 Speaker 2: the weakest part of the Eagles team, which is their corners. 1220 00:52:09,080 --> 00:52:11,680 Speaker 2: The Bears have no QB, no line, no running game, 1221 00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:15,920 Speaker 2: their coaches lost, their kicker is now shook. Its Eagles 1222 00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:18,920 Speaker 2: are nothing, especially if the Sean Jackson plays. 1223 00:52:18,680 --> 00:52:20,680 Speaker 4: And he was our getting a little bit healthier in 1224 00:52:20,719 --> 00:52:24,000 Speaker 4: that secondary, and actually have the Minnesota Vikings going to 1225 00:52:24,200 --> 00:52:26,560 Speaker 4: Arrowhead to take on the Chiefs. Now, this line looks 1226 00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:28,480 Speaker 4: like it's off the board right now as we record this. 1227 00:52:28,560 --> 00:52:31,520 Speaker 4: On Wednesday night last we saw the Chiefs were a 1228 00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:33,839 Speaker 4: two and a half point favorite allies who This all 1229 00:52:33,880 --> 00:52:35,879 Speaker 4: depends on the status of Patrick Mahomes, who did get 1230 00:52:35,880 --> 00:52:38,400 Speaker 4: in a limited practice on Wednesday. 1231 00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:40,359 Speaker 3: But any thoughts about where this line might end up. 1232 00:52:40,360 --> 00:52:42,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, just read our preview later in the week also 1233 00:52:42,719 --> 00:52:44,400 Speaker 2: to see who's playing like on the Chiefs. Like you 1234 00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:46,600 Speaker 2: have their offensive line, which as of right now is 1235 00:52:46,600 --> 00:52:50,360 Speaker 2: a disaster. They really need Fisher back. Their defensive line 1236 00:52:50,480 --> 00:52:53,719 Speaker 2: is also missing guys, mainly Jones and like you know, 1237 00:52:53,800 --> 00:52:56,360 Speaker 2: Clark is still out. They have injuries in the secondary. 1238 00:52:56,360 --> 00:52:58,520 Speaker 2: They're punters now hurt. They'd a sign a punter. Cole 1239 00:52:58,600 --> 00:53:01,239 Speaker 2: Quick's hurt, So yeah, there's nothing I could talk about here. 1240 00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:03,839 Speaker 2: Check our Guy later in the week, which is must 1241 00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:06,799 Speaker 2: read material every week, and we go through every single 1242 00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:08,440 Speaker 2: NFL game because this is all going to come down 1243 00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:11,960 Speaker 2: to who's playing, namely the starting quarterback. The other players 1244 00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:14,719 Speaker 2: are just ancillary factors that I'll consider. Injury record is 1245 00:53:14,719 --> 00:53:15,279 Speaker 2: everything in this. 1246 00:53:15,239 --> 00:53:18,160 Speaker 4: Game, absolutely, and that's the NFL Ultimate Betting Guy usually 1247 00:53:18,160 --> 00:53:22,120 Speaker 4: comes out on Fridays. I break down for the matchup 1248 00:53:22,239 --> 00:53:24,640 Speaker 4: mismatches for the week. Stucky breaks down another four our 1249 00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:29,080 Speaker 4: guy Matthew Friedman as well and Mike Randalls, so some 1250 00:53:29,080 --> 00:53:31,000 Speaker 4: good stuff there. We also give a bunch of trends 1251 00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:33,800 Speaker 4: picks all of that good stuff. Last on the docket 1252 00:53:33,800 --> 00:53:36,399 Speaker 4: that we didn't get to the New York Jets going 1253 00:53:36,400 --> 00:53:40,120 Speaker 4: to Miami three point. I know three point favorites are 1254 00:53:40,160 --> 00:53:42,200 Speaker 4: the Jets. They're getting sixty three percent of the bets, 1255 00:53:42,239 --> 00:53:44,719 Speaker 4: sixty eight percent of the dollars the over, unders forty one, 1256 00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:47,279 Speaker 4: seventy percent of the bets going to the over, but 1257 00:53:47,320 --> 00:53:50,160 Speaker 4: only fifty three percent of the money is on the over. 1258 00:53:50,239 --> 00:53:52,240 Speaker 4: The Jets two and five against the spread the Dolphins 1259 00:53:52,280 --> 00:53:54,800 Speaker 4: three and four. But these two teams are both bottom 1260 00:53:54,840 --> 00:53:57,200 Speaker 4: three in margin against the spread, the Jets at minus 1261 00:53:57,239 --> 00:54:00,760 Speaker 4: six point four Dolphins at minus eight point nine. 1262 00:54:00,960 --> 00:54:02,800 Speaker 2: It's I think I need more about the Dolphins. The 1263 00:54:02,800 --> 00:54:05,439 Speaker 2: Dolphins are still fighting and this might be their best shot. 1264 00:54:05,440 --> 00:54:07,279 Speaker 2: They're home against the Bengals too late in the year. 1265 00:54:07,320 --> 00:54:08,960 Speaker 2: I don't know who's going to be healthier playing for 1266 00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:11,520 Speaker 2: the Bengals at that point, but this is what that 1267 00:54:11,600 --> 00:54:13,319 Speaker 2: might be their best shot to get a win and 1268 00:54:13,400 --> 00:54:16,600 Speaker 2: avoid the dreaded zero to sixteen. The Jets are a 1269 00:54:16,640 --> 00:54:17,439 Speaker 2: mess right now. 1270 00:54:17,560 --> 00:54:18,880 Speaker 3: I mean, you're their best shot. 1271 00:54:18,760 --> 00:54:23,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, requesting, I mean they are line the Jets linebackers. 1272 00:54:23,160 --> 00:54:24,440 Speaker 2: By the way, I don't even know who's playing the 1273 00:54:24,440 --> 00:54:26,440 Speaker 2: linebacker for them anymore. But I mean, everywhere you look 1274 00:54:26,440 --> 00:54:28,759 Speaker 2: at the Dolphins, there's nothing like good. There's nothing where 1275 00:54:28,760 --> 00:54:30,719 Speaker 2: you could be like, if this is good, you'll have 1276 00:54:31,040 --> 00:54:34,359 Speaker 2: Fitzpatrick's slinging it and trying to make plays. Hopefully doesn't 1277 00:54:34,400 --> 00:54:37,200 Speaker 2: throw picks and look left Belgia have a huge day. 1278 00:54:37,280 --> 00:54:39,600 Speaker 2: The Dolphins can't do anything against backs. They can card 1279 00:54:39,640 --> 00:54:41,160 Speaker 2: the run, they kick our backs out of the backfield. 1280 00:54:41,160 --> 00:54:43,080 Speaker 2: I mean, they can't really guard anything. So you would 1281 00:54:43,080 --> 00:54:46,279 Speaker 2: think the Jets could win this game. But maybe it's 1282 00:54:46,320 --> 00:54:49,640 Speaker 2: just a fact where they've their locker room is far gone. 1283 00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:52,720 Speaker 2: You know, Adam's requesting a trade and the Dolphins are fighting. 1284 00:54:52,880 --> 00:54:54,279 Speaker 2: You know they've been fighting the last couple of weeks 1285 00:54:54,320 --> 00:54:56,560 Speaker 2: and covering for a win. I don't know. This game 1286 00:54:56,640 --> 00:54:59,279 Speaker 2: is horrendous. I wish that I could remove this from 1287 00:54:59,320 --> 00:54:59,920 Speaker 2: Red Zone on some. 1288 00:55:00,719 --> 00:55:03,040 Speaker 4: I aired in betting the Jets last week. I still 1289 00:55:03,040 --> 00:55:05,799 Speaker 4: think they're more of a below average than a horrible team. 1290 00:55:05,800 --> 00:55:09,480 Speaker 4: I think the market is kind of overreacting to the Docins. 1291 00:55:09,040 --> 00:55:10,640 Speaker 2: And create they should the place should be the Jets, 1292 00:55:10,760 --> 00:55:12,360 Speaker 2: But last week I didn't played the Jet should like 1293 00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:14,520 Speaker 2: I'm missing something. I feel like I'm missing something again here. 1294 00:55:14,680 --> 00:55:17,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it's not It's not a good one 1295 00:55:17,160 --> 00:55:18,960 Speaker 4: to bet, but I think I was lean Jets if 1296 00:55:19,200 --> 00:55:23,279 Speaker 4: forced to make a pick. Speaking of picks, let's close 1297 00:55:23,320 --> 00:55:25,960 Speaker 4: out with our Survivor Pool pick of the week. 1298 00:55:26,600 --> 00:55:33,600 Speaker 1: One pick, one chance to advance Survivor. 1299 00:55:34,960 --> 00:55:38,120 Speaker 4: All right, so I am still alive outlast did you? 1300 00:55:38,200 --> 00:55:39,759 Speaker 4: I think it was week five you went down with 1301 00:55:40,400 --> 00:55:45,520 Speaker 4: that Colt's upset the Chiefs. I have used Seattle, Houston, Dallas, Chargers, Philly, 1302 00:55:45,680 --> 00:55:48,160 Speaker 4: New England, and Buffalo this week. 1303 00:55:48,640 --> 00:55:48,799 Speaker 3: You know. 1304 00:55:48,800 --> 00:55:51,080 Speaker 4: I hate to do it, especially in a division game 1305 00:55:51,120 --> 00:55:53,360 Speaker 4: on Thursday, where things tend to go very weirdly, But 1306 00:55:53,840 --> 00:55:55,320 Speaker 4: there's not a lot of value out there. 1307 00:55:55,480 --> 00:55:57,160 Speaker 3: So I'm going to go with the San Francisco forty 1308 00:55:57,239 --> 00:55:57,760 Speaker 3: nine ers. 1309 00:55:58,000 --> 00:56:00,440 Speaker 4: Maybe it's closer than we think, but to go with 1310 00:56:00,480 --> 00:56:03,839 Speaker 4: them to get to eight and oh here stuck. If 1311 00:56:03,880 --> 00:56:05,520 Speaker 4: you couldn't pick the forty nine ers this week, and 1312 00:56:05,719 --> 00:56:07,759 Speaker 4: yet you use all those teams I mentioned, is there 1313 00:56:07,760 --> 00:56:09,480 Speaker 4: anybody else you would look at? 1314 00:56:09,840 --> 00:56:11,960 Speaker 2: I think it's safety as the Bills this week against 1315 00:56:11,960 --> 00:56:14,880 Speaker 2: the Redskins at home, if you haven't already, If you 1316 00:56:14,920 --> 00:56:18,080 Speaker 2: want to get risky here, it's really a tough week 1317 00:56:18,120 --> 00:56:20,120 Speaker 2: to get risky, you know. I think if you haven't 1318 00:56:20,200 --> 00:56:22,319 Speaker 2: used the Eagles, I like them at home against this 1319 00:56:22,400 --> 00:56:24,839 Speaker 2: Bears team. That's about it. The rest I could see 1320 00:56:24,880 --> 00:56:26,279 Speaker 2: really going either way. 1321 00:56:26,680 --> 00:56:27,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a tough week. 1322 00:56:27,680 --> 00:56:29,360 Speaker 4: Want to close spread, So I think it's more of 1323 00:56:29,560 --> 00:56:34,200 Speaker 4: a betting week. But if you're alive in survivor pool, hopefully. 1324 00:56:33,760 --> 00:56:36,560 Speaker 3: You can keep it going. Going with the forty nine ers. 1325 00:56:36,560 --> 00:56:38,480 Speaker 4: They have them and the Bills I think have the 1326 00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:40,520 Speaker 4: best probabilities of winning if you. 1327 00:56:40,480 --> 00:56:43,080 Speaker 3: Just look at the line, so those would. 1328 00:56:42,920 --> 00:56:46,440 Speaker 4: Be the picks and that does it for another episode 1329 00:56:46,560 --> 00:56:49,840 Speaker 4: of the Action Network podcast. Again, you can fill stuck 1330 00:56:50,360 --> 00:56:54,360 Speaker 4: on Twitter at Stucky two and me at Chris Raymond. 1331 00:56:54,640 --> 00:56:56,959 Speaker 4: Our names are the same. In the Action Network app, 1332 00:56:57,000 --> 00:56:59,960 Speaker 4: you can follow all of our bets, track Roan, get live, 1333 00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:02,480 Speaker 4: I have odds, win probabilities, all that good stuff, so 1334 00:57:02,560 --> 00:57:06,760 Speaker 4: be sure to go download that. Again, we're doing the contest, 1335 00:57:06,840 --> 00:57:09,719 Speaker 4: so go leave us review on Apple favorite Underdog and 1336 00:57:10,520 --> 00:57:13,200 Speaker 4: your Twitter handle to be entered for a chance to 1337 00:57:13,239 --> 00:57:14,879 Speaker 4: win Action Network hoodie. 1338 00:57:15,239 --> 00:57:17,360 Speaker 3: And we're out of here. Good lucky week nine. Let's 1339 00:57:17,360 --> 00:57:18,120 Speaker 3: get this money. 1340 00:57:18,280 --> 00:57:20,000 Speaker 2: Go pack out, Go Ravens