1 00:00:01,160 --> 00:00:03,560 Speaker 1: Some of the content of Patriots Unfiltered may not be 2 00:00:03,640 --> 00:00:07,960 Speaker 1: suitable for all audiences. Listener discretion is advised. 3 00:00:08,360 --> 00:00:11,760 Speaker 2: The worlds of Pigeon Podcasts. 4 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:16,599 Speaker 1: Welcome to Patriots Unfiltered. 5 00:00:18,560 --> 00:00:19,920 Speaker 3: I've wanted Mike Rable to be there. 6 00:00:19,960 --> 00:00:27,360 Speaker 4: You guys, HOI on all right? Welcome to Patriots Unfiltered 7 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:32,360 Speaker 4: Special New Era Emergency podcast. Mike Vrabel's in the house 8 00:00:32,800 --> 00:00:38,040 Speaker 4: twelve o'clock press conference to announce him as the seventeenth 9 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:42,400 Speaker 4: or sixteenth head coach of the New England Patriots. Sixteenth 10 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:44,720 Speaker 4: head Coach of the New England Patriots, Mike Rabels. So 11 00:00:44,760 --> 00:00:47,199 Speaker 4: we're all excited. We decided we have to do a 12 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:51,320 Speaker 4: show today, so we will be live until the press conference. 13 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:54,120 Speaker 4: We'll break here at about eleven fifty five and the three 14 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 4: of us will hustle up to the press conference. Then 15 00:00:56,800 --> 00:00:59,480 Speaker 4: as soon as the press conference is over, we'll hustle 16 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:02,200 Speaker 4: back down and we'll do a show after the press 17 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:05,600 Speaker 4: conference to get your reaction to everything that's happened today. 18 00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:09,680 Speaker 4: So you know, it's Paul, it's Mike. Uh, what are 19 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:11,279 Speaker 4: we feeling? How do we feel, guys? 20 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:13,880 Speaker 5: I feel the same way I did last week. I 21 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 5: love Mike Rabel. I think he's going to be a 22 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:19,200 Speaker 5: fine choice for the coach. And I'm looking forward to 23 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:21,959 Speaker 5: getting my balls busted by Mike Rails so that's what 24 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 5: he does. 25 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:24,119 Speaker 6: I'm looking forward to him busting your balls. Maybe I'll 26 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:26,000 Speaker 6: be lucky if he busted mind. But uh, I bought 27 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:28,280 Speaker 6: a little prop today, guys. I had to do it. 28 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:30,240 Speaker 6: I had to do it here. 29 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:30,920 Speaker 4: It is this. 30 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:33,240 Speaker 3: Some people, you know, they talked to talk, but I 31 00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:35,080 Speaker 3: walked the walk. This is it. I went out. My 32 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:35,840 Speaker 3: kid was little. 33 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:38,000 Speaker 6: We put them in a little Verable jersey. So I've 34 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:40,480 Speaker 6: always loved Mike Rable. I know we hung on to 35 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:41,679 Speaker 6: this special keepsake. 36 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:43,400 Speaker 5: So do you throw anything away? 37 00:01:43,680 --> 00:01:45,559 Speaker 3: Yeah, I know this one. No, but I'm glad I didn't. 38 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 7: Now. 39 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:47,320 Speaker 3: I tried to get into it this morning. Paul wasn't. 40 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:48,040 Speaker 3: Wasn't that easy. 41 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:50,600 Speaker 4: So you know what you have to fun You show 42 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 4: up wearing that. 43 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:54,240 Speaker 5: Now you can't do it. I was gonna say you should. 44 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:56,920 Speaker 5: You should have him signed it, but we getting We 45 00:01:57,000 --> 00:01:58,760 Speaker 5: get in trouble for things like that, so we probably 46 00:01:58,760 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 5: shouldn't do that. 47 00:01:59,720 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 6: But but no, ID echo what Paul said. And I mean, 48 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:04,440 Speaker 6: looking back through my my blogging days, Fred. I looked 49 00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 6: and I found the exact day. It was in twenty 50 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:08,640 Speaker 6: fifteen that I first said, you know, I love Mike Rable. 51 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 6: I think he'd be a great, you know guy to 52 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 6: follow up Bill. So I just feel refreshed today. I 53 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 6: feel like I you know, we've kind of put last season. 54 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:17,400 Speaker 6: It feels like it's been what eight days, It feels 55 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:18,079 Speaker 6: like it was a year ago. 56 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:18,720 Speaker 3: At this point. 57 00:02:18,919 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 6: I'm excited to forget about that season and I think, 58 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:22,560 Speaker 6: you know, this is what the team needs. 59 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:23,359 Speaker 3: They need somebody to. 60 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:25,400 Speaker 6: Come in and you know, right the ship, get everything 61 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:27,119 Speaker 6: back on track. And I mean not just talking about 62 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 6: last year, but going back a couple of years when 63 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:30,880 Speaker 6: it just felt like things were falling apart. 64 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:31,799 Speaker 3: We couldn't put all. 65 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:34,120 Speaker 6: Together, a lot of mistakes on the field, a lot 66 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:35,680 Speaker 6: of those you know, Paul we has talked about them 67 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 6: winning close games like that stuff was out the window. 68 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:40,320 Speaker 6: They you know, were self inflicted wounds here and there 69 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:43,160 Speaker 6: for the last couple of seasons. So I'm just excited 70 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:45,840 Speaker 6: for a breath of fresh air and to see what 71 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:46,919 Speaker 6: Mike Crable's going to come in and do. 72 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:49,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean as far as setting the tone and 73 00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:52,520 Speaker 4: setting things up and so on. He's done it before 74 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 4: he knows what he wants to do. He's going to 75 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:57,480 Speaker 4: hit the ground running in terms of those things. Now, 76 00:02:57,480 --> 00:03:00,280 Speaker 4: he still needs to hire an offensive coordinator and a 77 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:04,760 Speaker 4: defensive coordinator and get his staff together. But I got 78 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 4: a feeling he's got an idea about what he wants 79 00:03:06,639 --> 00:03:07,080 Speaker 4: to do with that. 80 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:08,640 Speaker 5: So I have a feeling when we come back to 81 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:11,079 Speaker 5: do the show conference, we're going to have a lot 82 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 5: more information, you know, along those lines. Yeah, maybe not everything, 83 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:15,639 Speaker 5: but more information. 84 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:16,040 Speaker 3: Yeah. 85 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:19,960 Speaker 4: A lot of people are just assuming that Josh McDaniels 86 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:21,960 Speaker 4: is going to be the OC. I don't know if 87 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 4: that's true or not. How do you feel about that? 88 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:26,120 Speaker 5: It could be? I wouldn't. I'd feel very similar. I 89 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:28,480 Speaker 5: like Rabel, I think more as a head coach than 90 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:31,160 Speaker 5: I do McDaniels as an offensive coordinator. But I like 91 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:33,840 Speaker 5: Josh a lot too. I look forward to the same 92 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:36,160 Speaker 5: thing with Josh because I think Mike and I have 93 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:39,600 Speaker 5: a pretty good relationship with him, and I think he 94 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:42,960 Speaker 5: has demonstrated the ability to run an offense. You know, 95 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 5: I don't think it's been anywhere near as good without Brady, 96 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 5: But who would be you know, who would be anywhere 97 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:50,600 Speaker 5: near as good. You know, I was looking up something 98 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:54,000 Speaker 5: for a millbag today. We had someone comparing Ben Johnson 99 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:57,040 Speaker 5: and Adam Gase, you know, because Adam Gase had great 100 00:03:57,120 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 5: success as an offensive coordinator. Yes in twenty thirteen with 101 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 5: Peyton Manning when they set a record, have a feeling 102 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:03,960 Speaker 5: that was a little bit more to do with Peyton 103 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:06,920 Speaker 5: Manning than it was Adam Gase. And then Adam Gase 104 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:09,920 Speaker 5: went to Chicago and had like the eighteenth ranked. 105 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:11,360 Speaker 4: Offense with the I think that's why. 106 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 5: That's what happens when you have a great Hall of 107 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 5: Fame quarterback, he lifts your offense to. 108 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:18,320 Speaker 4: Great And I think that's why Ben Johnson is getting 109 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:21,640 Speaker 4: so much acclaim across the league as he's doing it 110 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 4: with a reclamation project. 111 00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:26,159 Speaker 5: Jared, Yeah, yeah, it's much more impressive. 112 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 4: Yeah. So the question is, can Josh adapt and do 113 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:34,920 Speaker 4: what's best for Drake May and forget about Tom Brady, 114 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 4: you know, literally just forget about Tom Brady, uh, because 115 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:40,560 Speaker 4: no one's going to be him and no one can 116 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 4: do what he did. But turning back to Mike Vrabel, 117 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:48,159 Speaker 4: because this is his day, he seems, you know, from 118 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:50,719 Speaker 4: what I can what I've heard so far. You know, 119 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:54,440 Speaker 4: we've put some stuff up on social media already. He 120 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 4: seems genuinely excited about being here. There was a rumor 121 00:04:58,040 --> 00:05:01,440 Speaker 4: that Brady reached out to him and says, don't bother, 122 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 4: I'm going back to New England. 123 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 5: So I was reported yesterday by that was reported and 124 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:12,440 Speaker 5: so so it doesn't sound like there was much hemon 125 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:15,800 Speaker 5: and haweing on his part, like he really wanted to 126 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:16,160 Speaker 5: be here. 127 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:20,320 Speaker 4: They wanted him back here, and it happened. And uh, 128 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:23,720 Speaker 4: you know, listen, we heard rumors that this was going 129 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 4: to happen. We were going to have a press conference 130 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 4: this Monday, maybe, you know. So I think internally in 131 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:34,600 Speaker 4: the organization they would playing what's the soonest? What's the soonest? 132 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:37,600 Speaker 4: This could happen Monday morning, and so they prepared for 133 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:41,680 Speaker 4: it and it did happen. But uh, yeah, the Crafts 134 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:44,400 Speaker 4: knew who they wanted they and they got it done. 135 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:46,159 Speaker 5: So that's the part that I would say that I 136 00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:49,760 Speaker 5: that I like is regardless of what you think of 137 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:54,760 Speaker 5: the choice, and reasonable minds can disagree, but I liked 138 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 5: the idea that they identified something and they were able 139 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 5: to execute it. You know, they went after it. I 140 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 5: think we can all talk about sort of the plus 141 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:10,479 Speaker 5: and of the process, you know, through search. I personally 142 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:13,039 Speaker 5: would rather have had them talk to more guys and 143 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:15,520 Speaker 5: come back and if it lands on Rabel lands on Rabel, 144 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:19,680 Speaker 5: no problem there. But again, reasonable minds can can have 145 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:24,240 Speaker 5: different opinions. They identified Rabel, and they not only identified it, 146 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:27,600 Speaker 5: but they executed it bang. They went after it, they 147 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 5: got it, and they did it quickly and effectively. I 148 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:33,000 Speaker 5: think that's really encouraging if you're a patriot, and if. 149 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 4: Some of the kind of reporting is correct. A month 150 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:39,320 Speaker 4: before the season ended, it sounded like they were already 151 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:43,039 Speaker 4: what if we have to make a change. And I 152 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:44,800 Speaker 4: don't know how they would have been doing it, but 153 00:06:44,839 --> 00:06:48,840 Speaker 4: they were kind of maybe getting it out, you know, 154 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:51,200 Speaker 4: looking around to see if we had to make a change, 155 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:56,039 Speaker 4: who would it be? You know? And sometimes yes, sometimes 156 00:06:56,600 --> 00:07:01,560 Speaker 4: you know, the quickest route is sometimes the best. May 157 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 4: maybe you know, what is Ben Johnson? Maybe his ceiling 158 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:08,359 Speaker 4: higher or he could be the next you know McVeigh possibly, 159 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:11,240 Speaker 4: But you got this guy right there. You got a 160 00:07:11,240 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 4: guy who you know, you know, the kind of organization 161 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:16,920 Speaker 4: that he's going to create, the culture's going to create 162 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:20,480 Speaker 4: because he's done it before, and you know, let's let's 163 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:23,920 Speaker 4: take the bird in the hand, and you know, sometimes 164 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 4: that's the best route. And so they did it. And 165 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:29,600 Speaker 4: so yeah, like Paul said, could they have talked to 166 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 4: more people, Sure, but sometimes you just when it's right 167 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:34,760 Speaker 4: in front of you, just do it. 168 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 8: Just do it. 169 00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:37,720 Speaker 5: Like I said, I like the fact that they didn't 170 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:39,640 Speaker 5: think it was important to do that, and they did 171 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 5: it quickly and they did it effectively. 172 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:43,360 Speaker 6: I wouldn't mind seeing the talk to more people. Now 173 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:45,640 Speaker 6: come about with the offensive coordinator, And I mean, Iko 174 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:47,640 Speaker 6: you said, if it is Josh McDaniel's great, we know 175 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:49,240 Speaker 6: him a little bit. I have confidence he could do 176 00:07:49,280 --> 00:07:50,680 Speaker 6: the job. But I think this is the time to 177 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:53,600 Speaker 6: you know, maybe find those up and coming offensive coaches. 178 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:57,520 Speaker 3: Maybe that will bring a little bit of Yeah. 179 00:07:57,600 --> 00:07:59,440 Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean I just I'd be open to new 180 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:01,480 Speaker 6: names in that. And you know, nothing against Josh, but 181 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 6: you know, I think the stability that Josh who provide 182 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:06,640 Speaker 6: is certainly appealing. I mean, we talked so much about 183 00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 6: in success you're probably gonna lose this guy quick. But 184 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:10,960 Speaker 6: you know, I just think at the end of the day, 185 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:13,480 Speaker 6: this was such an obvious choice, and you know, yes, 186 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:15,240 Speaker 6: last year it was kind of rushed and out of 187 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:16,680 Speaker 6: nowhere and all of a sudden, it's just Mayo and 188 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 6: there's no real process. And I think that hung over 189 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:20,880 Speaker 6: this a little bit. But at the end of the day, 190 00:08:21,360 --> 00:08:23,360 Speaker 6: this was the guy all along, right, I mean, this 191 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:25,400 Speaker 6: it all lined up this year. I mean I wish 192 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:27,440 Speaker 6: they'd done it last year, to be honest, but you know, 193 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:30,000 Speaker 6: now they've got the guy. He's been here and I 194 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:31,400 Speaker 6: think I said it last week. Just what I love 195 00:08:31,440 --> 00:08:34,319 Speaker 6: about Rabel is not a lot of people, but a 196 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:36,400 Speaker 6: lot of people from who are successful with the dynasty 197 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:38,200 Speaker 6: talk about a lot about what it was and what 198 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:40,600 Speaker 6: they did and what the Patriot Way was, and you 199 00:08:40,600 --> 00:08:43,240 Speaker 6: know how they he never talked about it like he 200 00:08:43,400 --> 00:08:45,200 Speaker 6: just did it. He went out in big games. He 201 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:48,840 Speaker 6: caught touchdowns. You know, I saw the edit we put out, 202 00:08:49,240 --> 00:08:52,160 Speaker 6: and it's like they're all Super Bowl highlights, their sacks 203 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 6: in the super Bowl. There are touchdowns in the Super Bowl. 204 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:56,800 Speaker 6: It it plays in big games. 205 00:08:56,840 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 8: You know. 206 00:08:57,080 --> 00:08:58,720 Speaker 3: That was what Mike Vrabel was. 207 00:08:58,760 --> 00:09:00,400 Speaker 6: He's not somebody who's going to go around and tell 208 00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:02,160 Speaker 6: you all about what the Patriot Way is and why 209 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 6: we're better than everybody else. He's just going to go 210 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:06,320 Speaker 6: out there and kick your ass, and I just that's 211 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:08,520 Speaker 6: the attitude that I love. I think it's a hard 212 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:10,760 Speaker 6: place for this organization. They needed to move on from Bill, 213 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:12,960 Speaker 6: they needed to kind of clear the slate. Really hard 214 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:14,880 Speaker 6: for Jirod to do that. I think Mike Rabel can 215 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:16,119 Speaker 6: do it. He's got a program. 216 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:19,120 Speaker 4: And one thing you can be sure of, beyond being 217 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:22,240 Speaker 4: judged by wins, which is what every head coach is 218 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:26,160 Speaker 4: judged by, Rabel knows that he's going to be judged 219 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:29,760 Speaker 4: on how he develops Drake May. So this choice of 220 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:32,520 Speaker 4: an offensive coordinator, I'm sure is going to be done 221 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:35,360 Speaker 4: with that in mind. Yeah. So if he has any 222 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:39,600 Speaker 4: doubt about Josh McDaniels doing that for Drake May, I'm 223 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:42,480 Speaker 4: sure he's going to look elsewhere. But if he does 224 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:48,880 Speaker 4: choose Josh McDaniels, I have faith that it's because he 225 00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:53,160 Speaker 4: does believe that he's the right guy to help Drake May. 226 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 6: I think the great thing is last year, when you 227 00:09:54,920 --> 00:09:57,360 Speaker 6: were doing these offensive coordinator interviews, you thought maybe you 228 00:09:57,360 --> 00:09:59,160 Speaker 6: would have Drake May, maybe you'd have Jaden Daniels. 229 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:01,760 Speaker 3: You didn't really know your interviewing guys asking them what 230 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:04,400 Speaker 3: their process might be for different options that are on 231 00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:04,800 Speaker 3: the roster. 232 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:07,079 Speaker 6: But now you have the guy you know exactly who 233 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:09,160 Speaker 6: you're going to be developing. I think that just that 234 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:11,079 Speaker 6: helps matters, you know, you know, he can say I've 235 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:12,600 Speaker 6: looked at Drake's tape, this is what I would do, 236 00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:13,320 Speaker 6: this is what I would do. 237 00:10:13,400 --> 00:10:17,160 Speaker 4: And and Rabel's success is tied to this OHC decision 238 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:19,839 Speaker 4: kind of because if you know, two years from now, 239 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:23,600 Speaker 4: we're still you know, middling. That's not going to be 240 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:25,600 Speaker 4: good enough. That's not gonna be good enough. And Drake 241 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:30,000 Speaker 4: may hasn't you know, risen to the you know, levels 242 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:32,319 Speaker 4: that we think he's capable of. That's not going to 243 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:34,680 Speaker 4: be good And Rabel's smart, he knows that. 244 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:35,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, he knows that. 245 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:37,600 Speaker 6: I'd much rather have that hanging over my head than 246 00:10:37,640 --> 00:10:39,520 Speaker 6: I don't even know who my quarterback is at this point. 247 00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:41,160 Speaker 6: You know that, Oh yeah, you know, it's easier to 248 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:43,560 Speaker 6: go into it knowing that. But you know, somebody's got 249 00:10:43,600 --> 00:10:45,200 Speaker 6: to clean up the turnovers for Drake. I'd say that's 250 00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:47,400 Speaker 6: the place to start with him, is you know, big 251 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:49,840 Speaker 6: key for next year is being safe. 252 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:50,040 Speaker 3: With the ball. 253 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:53,280 Speaker 4: Absolutely. Then you get to the defensive side of the ball, 254 00:10:53,320 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 4: which is to me more of a mystery, crazy because 255 00:10:57,200 --> 00:11:00,400 Speaker 4: it's not like, oh, the defense was fine last year. No, 256 00:11:00,920 --> 00:11:03,800 Speaker 4: it wasn't. That might have more cleaning up to do 257 00:11:03,880 --> 00:11:08,480 Speaker 4: than anything. Because on offense, to me, yes, the scheme 258 00:11:08,559 --> 00:11:11,600 Speaker 4: is going to be important. Who the OC? But you know, 259 00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:14,640 Speaker 4: they just need to get talent. That's pretty apparent. That's 260 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:17,839 Speaker 4: one of the answers on offense, is they need more 261 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:21,000 Speaker 4: talent on defense. I don't know where they start. I 262 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:23,559 Speaker 4: really don't like, do they start with just bringing in 263 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:27,800 Speaker 4: veteran you know, veterans, or do they use the first 264 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:30,760 Speaker 4: draft pick on defense and kind of you know, look 265 00:11:30,840 --> 00:11:35,480 Speaker 4: past the offense. The defense to me is a little 266 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:37,920 Speaker 4: bit more complicated. Me too, you know, me too. 267 00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:40,760 Speaker 6: I mean that's everybody's got their you know, fifty guys 268 00:11:40,760 --> 00:11:42,480 Speaker 6: that could be the offensive coordinator. I haven't heard a 269 00:11:42,480 --> 00:11:44,559 Speaker 6: lot of interesting options for defensive cod well, that. 270 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:46,560 Speaker 5: Part, I do think is more complicated. I don't have 271 00:11:46,600 --> 00:11:49,920 Speaker 5: any idea who Mike wants as his defensive coordinator, but 272 00:11:50,120 --> 00:11:54,680 Speaker 5: I think the problems are very similar talent, well, talent 273 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:57,920 Speaker 5: and scheme, like they need both on both sides of 274 00:11:57,920 --> 00:11:59,840 Speaker 5: the ball. I don't know. I think we have an 275 00:11:59,880 --> 00:12:02,560 Speaker 5: eye idea that Josh McDaniels is in the mix. There's 276 00:12:02,559 --> 00:12:04,520 Speaker 5: been enough people that have been saying, don't be surprised 277 00:12:04,559 --> 00:12:07,520 Speaker 5: if Josh MCDI I think we think it's Josh McDaniels 278 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:11,320 Speaker 5: and maybe Tommy Reese from you know, their time together 279 00:12:11,360 --> 00:12:14,559 Speaker 5: in Cleveland. I don't have any idea who Mike wants 280 00:12:14,559 --> 00:12:15,040 Speaker 5: on defense. 281 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:15,160 Speaker 9: Now. 282 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:17,160 Speaker 5: I'm not as concerned on that side because I think 283 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:20,720 Speaker 5: Mike will be will do a better job of being 284 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:23,559 Speaker 5: sort of head coach with a lean to a defense 285 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:26,800 Speaker 5: than Gerad did. Yeah, you know, like Bill did for 286 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:28,600 Speaker 5: years and years and years. I think that. 287 00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:30,720 Speaker 4: They'll is that the way he was in Tennessee. 288 00:12:30,800 --> 00:12:33,640 Speaker 5: Like I would be surprised. I don't know exactly how 289 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:36,880 Speaker 5: he delegated in Tennessee, Fred to answer that question, but 290 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:41,080 Speaker 5: I would be surprised if they made a huge departure 291 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:43,720 Speaker 5: away from the way Patriots used to play defense, you know, 292 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:47,520 Speaker 5: with the sort of two gapping philosophies and whatnot. I'd 293 00:12:47,520 --> 00:12:49,800 Speaker 5: be surprised if they just said, you know, like Evan 294 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:52,960 Speaker 5: was talking about why he doesn't think Robert Sala would 295 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:56,480 Speaker 5: be a good choice because it's really a departure, you know, 296 00:12:56,679 --> 00:12:58,959 Speaker 5: from a system standpoint to the way the Patriots have 297 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:02,240 Speaker 5: played in the past. And then the easy you know 298 00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:04,280 Speaker 5: rebud is, well, how do you know the way Mike 299 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:06,959 Speaker 5: Rables are going to play? My guess is that it'll 300 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:08,320 Speaker 5: be similar to the way the Patriots. 301 00:13:08,360 --> 00:13:11,200 Speaker 6: Actually I went back and looked, did some digging just 302 00:13:11,240 --> 00:13:14,520 Speaker 6: on his one year in Houston as the defensive coordinator, 303 00:13:14,559 --> 00:13:16,920 Speaker 6: and yeah, you know, just base three four, So I 304 00:13:16,920 --> 00:13:19,520 Speaker 6: mean kind of the same route, same or same you know, 305 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:22,760 Speaker 6: root concepts that you know Bill used here, a lot 306 00:13:22,800 --> 00:13:24,680 Speaker 6: of you know, who's dropping, who's coming, a lot of 307 00:13:24,679 --> 00:13:27,360 Speaker 6: disguise up front. But I do think the core principles 308 00:13:27,400 --> 00:13:29,079 Speaker 6: are probably the same of what he'll be drawing out 309 00:13:29,080 --> 00:13:31,600 Speaker 6: of them. But you know, the real question is how 310 00:13:31,640 --> 00:13:33,800 Speaker 6: complicated does it get with safeties and all that kind 311 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:34,160 Speaker 6: of stuff. 312 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:37,320 Speaker 4: The reason for me the defense is a little bit 313 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:40,720 Speaker 4: more ambiguous, and often you have the quarterback on offense, 314 00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:43,760 Speaker 4: so that's the thing that you're building around. I don't 315 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:48,760 Speaker 4: know what you're building around on defense, like Gonzales, I guess, 316 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:51,839 Speaker 4: but like it starts up front, you know. 317 00:13:51,960 --> 00:13:54,800 Speaker 5: I understand, you're right, yeah, but you do have a 318 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:57,880 Speaker 5: guy that you playing at a good level a young guy. 319 00:13:57,880 --> 00:13:58,840 Speaker 10: That offense. 320 00:13:58,960 --> 00:14:02,240 Speaker 4: Again, like offense, if you don't have the quarterback, you 321 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:04,880 Speaker 4: better get one. Yeah, they've got the quarterback. You know. 322 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:08,920 Speaker 4: On defense, it's but it has to be more complimentary. 323 00:14:08,320 --> 00:14:10,520 Speaker 5: Right, because there isn't that one. Like you can't say, well, 324 00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:12,400 Speaker 5: if you don't have an edge rusher then you know, 325 00:14:12,559 --> 00:14:17,240 Speaker 5: or you don't have a corner. It's anything everything, right. 326 00:14:17,400 --> 00:14:19,240 Speaker 5: I'll tell you what I what I think of when 327 00:14:19,240 --> 00:14:23,800 Speaker 5: I think of Rabel's defenses in Tennessee is I want 328 00:14:23,800 --> 00:14:27,040 Speaker 5: to say, was it nineteen that the Yeah, that was 329 00:14:27,080 --> 00:14:29,160 Speaker 5: the other they beat the Patriots here when that was 330 00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:30,400 Speaker 5: that was Mike's introduction to. 331 00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:34,120 Speaker 4: The Brady's Loserville Brady's last game, right, Yeah. 332 00:14:34,160 --> 00:14:38,400 Speaker 5: So the defensive game plan that the Titans put together 333 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:42,040 Speaker 5: in the division around the next week at Baltimore, that 334 00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:46,560 Speaker 5: was a completely unstoppable offense that year, and but in 335 00:14:46,880 --> 00:14:49,600 Speaker 5: Tennessee stopped it. They I mean, they put up a 336 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:51,640 Speaker 5: bunch of yards, but they couldn't score. If you remember 337 00:14:51,680 --> 00:14:54,520 Speaker 5: the way that game unfolded, they got a lead with 338 00:14:54,640 --> 00:14:58,640 Speaker 5: Derek Henry running and Rabel you know, just sort of 339 00:14:58,760 --> 00:15:02,760 Speaker 5: contained Lamar Jacks and and I maybe I'm wrong. I'm 340 00:15:02,800 --> 00:15:04,560 Speaker 5: giving the credit to Rabel for that the way I 341 00:15:04,600 --> 00:15:06,920 Speaker 5: used to give the credit to Bill when they would 342 00:15:06,920 --> 00:15:10,160 Speaker 5: come up with these sort of interesting, different kind of 343 00:15:10,160 --> 00:15:13,320 Speaker 5: game plans to stop opponents. That's what I think of 344 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:16,280 Speaker 5: with with Rabel. I think that's where his expertise. 345 00:15:15,800 --> 00:15:16,720 Speaker 3: Rolled along those lines. 346 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:18,840 Speaker 6: I think you guys probably saw the Taylor Luan video 347 00:15:18,840 --> 00:15:20,960 Speaker 6: that he put out, which was really really funny talking. 348 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:22,960 Speaker 3: About it, guys, don't get ready. 349 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:26,720 Speaker 6: But what I liked hearing about it that the jokes aside, 350 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:28,800 Speaker 6: where you know we talked about with Bill, with him 351 00:15:28,800 --> 00:15:30,960 Speaker 6: saying he's going to give you keys to the game 352 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:33,360 Speaker 6: and he's gonna hammer those and those are the things 353 00:15:33,360 --> 00:15:34,720 Speaker 6: that are going to help you guys win games. I 354 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:37,080 Speaker 6: just I loved hearing that. I think that's where the 355 00:15:37,120 --> 00:15:39,400 Speaker 6: trust from the players and the coaching staff and what 356 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:43,160 Speaker 6: inexperienced coaching staff brings. And it's unfortunately something I don't think, 357 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:44,920 Speaker 6: you know, jirod had by the end of the season 358 00:15:44,960 --> 00:15:45,640 Speaker 6: with his players. 359 00:15:45,640 --> 00:15:47,680 Speaker 3: I don't think they know trusted that if we do 360 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:49,480 Speaker 3: what the coaches are telling us, we're gonna win. 361 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:52,040 Speaker 6: But I think that message out from Rabel will yeah 362 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:54,320 Speaker 6: and he certainly he may have gotten that from Bill. 363 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:56,800 Speaker 4: Maybe he got it from being at Ohio State when 364 00:15:56,800 --> 00:15:58,680 Speaker 4: he was a college player. I don't know. I'm sure 365 00:15:58,840 --> 00:16:00,640 Speaker 4: Bill isn't the only coach that does that. 366 00:16:01,080 --> 00:16:03,240 Speaker 5: I mean they all did. Like yeah, and I know 367 00:16:03,280 --> 00:16:04,960 Speaker 5: you always get mad at here, but this this was 368 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:07,720 Speaker 5: a Parcels tenant. You know, you do these things, we 369 00:16:07,760 --> 00:16:10,120 Speaker 5: can win, right, you know. And you know, Belichick and 370 00:16:10,440 --> 00:16:14,360 Speaker 5: Parcels for as much as they Bill, for as much 371 00:16:14,360 --> 00:16:17,200 Speaker 5: as they battled. But I also think Big Bill took 372 00:16:17,240 --> 00:16:18,960 Speaker 5: a lot from Little Bill too, Like I just think 373 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:22,240 Speaker 5: they really complimented each other really well. I think Belichick's 374 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:25,160 Speaker 5: expertise was more with x's and o's and Parcels was 375 00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:28,120 Speaker 5: more with the relationships and the motivation and whatnot. But 376 00:16:28,680 --> 00:16:31,600 Speaker 5: I think they believed in going about their business in 377 00:16:31,640 --> 00:16:34,240 Speaker 5: a similar way. And I think Rabel falls from. 378 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:37,800 Speaker 4: That tree, the part about you know, uh, you know, 379 00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:39,680 Speaker 4: Rabel will stand you up and he'll say, you know, 380 00:16:39,720 --> 00:16:42,000 Speaker 4: who's this guy, who's that guy? You know, he'll do 381 00:16:42,080 --> 00:16:44,240 Speaker 4: everything from you know, the person who takes care of 382 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:47,120 Speaker 4: you know, the janitor in the place. You know, you 383 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:50,480 Speaker 4: better know everybody in the organization, right, I like that 384 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:55,840 Speaker 4: because yeah, come here and immerse yourself, get involved, get 385 00:16:55,840 --> 00:16:58,880 Speaker 4: to know people, become part of the organization, not just 386 00:16:58,920 --> 00:17:03,800 Speaker 4: like a mercenary. You know. I like that attitude and 387 00:17:03,920 --> 00:17:05,920 Speaker 4: that's something that Rabel's gonna bring here. 388 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:08,400 Speaker 5: So I like how they all make fun of him 389 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:09,639 Speaker 5: for talking about his career. 390 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:13,359 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, and you know when the link that we 391 00:17:13,480 --> 00:17:16,800 Speaker 4: sent around in the newsletter, I think was Will Compton 392 00:17:17,280 --> 00:17:20,520 Speaker 4: did the Vrabel impression, And when he did that, guys 393 00:17:20,600 --> 00:17:23,320 Speaker 4: just fell out because it's exactly what Rabel. 394 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:25,359 Speaker 3: Fourteen years in the league, well, you know, I know 395 00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:25,679 Speaker 3: he did. 396 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:30,040 Speaker 4: I've been in only forty three years, just like just 397 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:31,959 Speaker 4: lost it. That was really funny. 398 00:17:32,080 --> 00:17:33,480 Speaker 6: Now it's gonna be fun I mean, I think there's 399 00:17:33,560 --> 00:17:36,480 Speaker 6: just a level of entertainment from Rabel two that just 400 00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:40,119 Speaker 6: will spice up press conferences like these, Like it's probably 401 00:17:40,119 --> 00:17:43,080 Speaker 6: gonna be a little some ribs thrown somewhere, I'm imagining. 402 00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:44,720 Speaker 3: But I'm excited for that part. 403 00:17:44,760 --> 00:17:46,240 Speaker 6: I just I think he brings a great edge and 404 00:17:46,280 --> 00:17:49,040 Speaker 6: I just think it's exactly what the New England patriots 405 00:17:49,119 --> 00:17:51,000 Speaker 6: need right now for where they are, and you know, 406 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:52,879 Speaker 6: getting away from the last twenty years and all that 407 00:17:52,920 --> 00:17:55,600 Speaker 6: you know, starting over, starting a new leaf, and you 408 00:17:55,600 --> 00:17:57,479 Speaker 6: know something that everybody can really believe in it. That's 409 00:17:57,520 --> 00:17:59,439 Speaker 6: I mean, I've seen across the board it seems like 410 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:01,399 Speaker 6: people are like, this is the right choice. That's the 411 00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:03,400 Speaker 6: right choice for this team. So it feels good to 412 00:18:03,560 --> 00:18:05,600 Speaker 6: you know, have that kind of be the sentiment other 413 00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:06,040 Speaker 6: than you. 414 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:09,520 Speaker 5: Get some accountability. That's the word that everybody uses with 415 00:18:09,680 --> 00:18:11,119 Speaker 5: what he's going to hold you accountable. 416 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:14,199 Speaker 4: But you know, it's so funny though to hear the 417 00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:17,760 Speaker 4: people on on the Twitter who you know, hate the media. 418 00:18:18,240 --> 00:18:20,560 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, the media is going to get it now. 419 00:18:20,920 --> 00:18:22,239 Speaker 4: You know they're not going to be able to get 420 00:18:22,280 --> 00:18:25,240 Speaker 4: away with anything. Now you know who's going to be 421 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:27,680 Speaker 4: the first person to get yelled at my brable? It's 422 00:18:27,680 --> 00:18:28,480 Speaker 4: like who cares? 423 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:31,280 Speaker 5: Oh but they care, no, no, But what I'm saying 424 00:18:31,320 --> 00:18:33,800 Speaker 5: as a media guy, like that happens. Sometimes you're gonna 425 00:18:33,840 --> 00:18:35,760 Speaker 5: get Sometimes you're going to ask a dumb question, You're 426 00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:38,120 Speaker 5: going to get like that. That's part of the gig. 427 00:18:38,320 --> 00:18:40,240 Speaker 4: But there's like part of the gig. There's a whole 428 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:44,080 Speaker 4: of people on Twitter just waiting for that. 429 00:18:45,119 --> 00:18:45,919 Speaker 3: I mean, I got admitted. 430 00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:48,040 Speaker 6: I was thinking about it too, Like if when I get, 431 00:18:48,040 --> 00:18:50,240 Speaker 6: you know, an opportunity, it's some juncture to interview him. 432 00:18:50,240 --> 00:18:52,920 Speaker 3: I feel like you know what you're asking, don't better 433 00:18:54,600 --> 00:18:55,520 Speaker 3: who I know? 434 00:18:55,560 --> 00:18:59,040 Speaker 4: I don't care. You should actually you should actually put 435 00:18:59,080 --> 00:19:01,639 Speaker 4: some fun into your It shouldn't be like, you know, 436 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:04,639 Speaker 4: a chit chat. I totally have you know, a reason 437 00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:06,200 Speaker 4: for asking the question, right. 438 00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:09,080 Speaker 5: I totally agree with that, And I've never ever changed 439 00:19:09,119 --> 00:19:11,600 Speaker 5: my thought process going into an interview based on who 440 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:14,679 Speaker 5: I'm interviewing right right, like I need to be on 441 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:17,680 Speaker 5: my you know, on my toes on no matter who, 442 00:19:17,880 --> 00:19:19,320 Speaker 5: you should know what you're going to be asking. 443 00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:20,160 Speaker 4: Absolutely. 444 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:23,600 Speaker 5: Now, I'm not saying like sometimes you walk through the 445 00:19:23,600 --> 00:19:25,720 Speaker 5: locker room and you're like, oh, I didn't necessarily think 446 00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:27,280 Speaker 5: I was going to talk to David Andrews today, But 447 00:19:27,359 --> 00:19:29,320 Speaker 5: David Andrews is over there by himself. I have, you know, 448 00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:31,240 Speaker 5: I know him. I'm going to go over and talk, 449 00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:32,879 Speaker 5: you know, and I might not have a question different. 450 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:35,440 Speaker 5: That's just a conversation. But if you're sitting down to 451 00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:38,200 Speaker 5: interview somebody, you shouldn't take it more seriously if it's 452 00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:39,680 Speaker 5: Bill Belichick than you would if it's dry. 453 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:42,560 Speaker 4: Absolutely, and by the way, if you're in a press 454 00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:45,080 Speaker 4: conference and someone asked the question you were going to ask. 455 00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:46,600 Speaker 4: That doesn't mean you have to come up with a 456 00:19:46,640 --> 00:19:49,360 Speaker 4: new question on the fly. You're done. You've got your 457 00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:51,760 Speaker 4: answer that you know, you know, you don't have to be. 458 00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:54,359 Speaker 3: I'll just go with about like how was your breakfast? 459 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:54,560 Speaker 11: Right? 460 00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:58,760 Speaker 4: You don't have to be heard from every press conference. Yeah, anyway, Wow, 461 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:03,399 Speaker 4: we permanently took a turn. We're getting down a rabbit 462 00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:04,840 Speaker 4: hole here, but so. 463 00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:08,920 Speaker 5: We're gonna be going in about five minutes. So anything 464 00:20:09,080 --> 00:20:11,440 Speaker 5: anybody would like to ask. I don't know how many 465 00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:16,560 Speaker 5: people actually listening to pressure if there's something specific, Yeah, 466 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:18,680 Speaker 5: people are interested in you get you got five minutes. 467 00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:20,040 Speaker 5: Shoot for a quick email. 468 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:21,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, to hear about this last year. 469 00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:23,679 Speaker 4: Yeah, So get your get your emails ready, get your 470 00:20:23,760 --> 00:20:24,800 Speaker 4: calls ready. 471 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:26,440 Speaker 5: Get your information ready. 472 00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:28,440 Speaker 4: When you come to fifty four after the press conference, 473 00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:30,000 Speaker 4: I think they're gonna feel be here. I think they're 474 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:33,080 Speaker 4: gonna go to lunch, the Crafts and Vrabel. But then 475 00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:35,280 Speaker 4: he's gonna go through the car wash here. We're gonna 476 00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:37,760 Speaker 4: have a photo session and he's going to do a 477 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:40,080 Speaker 4: sit down and media will get to talk to him 478 00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:44,040 Speaker 4: one on one. I put the request in. I don't 479 00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:47,040 Speaker 4: know if it's going to happen. Hopefully he'll stop by 480 00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:50,360 Speaker 4: the studio for five or ten minutes. We'll get him, 481 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:53,679 Speaker 4: we'll get him into our layer where we can be 482 00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:58,240 Speaker 4: a little bit more informal. But we'll see. But it's 483 00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:01,080 Speaker 4: so once the press conference over, we'll come back and 484 00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:03,760 Speaker 4: start the show up again, and we'll keep going as 485 00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:04,520 Speaker 4: long as we need to. 486 00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:05,239 Speaker 8: Uh. 487 00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:08,439 Speaker 4: You know, there's really no set end time because we 488 00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:11,280 Speaker 4: don't know exactly when we're going to get here. But 489 00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:13,960 Speaker 4: we'll get to your calls and emails when we come 490 00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:17,640 Speaker 4: back from the press conference, so it'll be all good, uh, 491 00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:18,920 Speaker 4: and we'll have a lot to talk about. 492 00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:20,960 Speaker 5: Yeah. Now, my guess is anything that you guys are 493 00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:23,520 Speaker 5: interested in, it probably gonna get asked. Yes, as much 494 00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:25,560 Speaker 5: as much as I like to, you know, sort of 495 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:29,359 Speaker 5: poke fun at my fellow colleagues. Generally, at these kinds 496 00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:33,280 Speaker 5: of press conferences, all the pert Yeah, all the pertinent 497 00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:34,080 Speaker 5: questions are asked. 498 00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:35,760 Speaker 4: So we should think if we get to him and 499 00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:38,680 Speaker 4: some anecdotes that you know happened when we were here, 500 00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:40,560 Speaker 4: like hey, you know you remember this or that. 501 00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:45,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't necessarily need to go down that rabbit hole. 502 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:49,359 Speaker 4: Did you ever have any like, like fun interactions with him? 503 00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:51,719 Speaker 5: Yeah, I had a lot of fun interactions with him. Yeah, 504 00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:55,280 Speaker 5: so it's always the butt of his jokes. Okay, Yeah, 505 00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:57,600 Speaker 5: I mean I wasn't you know. It wasn't like he 506 00:21:57,800 --> 00:22:00,880 Speaker 5: picked on me. He picked on everybody, Bill, But. 507 00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:03,000 Speaker 4: Did he ever pick on you in particular? 508 00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:07,040 Speaker 5: Like no, Yeah, I mean he used to make fun 509 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:11,040 Speaker 5: Like as an example, when we used to do a 510 00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:12,919 Speaker 5: lot of TV, we would do like the you know, 511 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:16,119 Speaker 5: my shows after you know, so I would have TV 512 00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:19,120 Speaker 5: clothes on in the locker room and he'd be like, oh, 513 00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:22,680 Speaker 5: NBC Sports Boston Tonight, Comcast at the time, Comcast, and 514 00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:25,120 Speaker 5: I got the Fall Colors, going things like that. 515 00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:30,879 Speaker 4: You know, that's professional, but that's a good thing. That 516 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:35,040 Speaker 4: means he pays attention. He pays attention to people, you know. 517 00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:37,879 Speaker 5: Like that's just an example. But like this was not 518 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:40,640 Speaker 5: because of me. This is what he did to everybody. 519 00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:44,040 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, oh yeah, as I said, including Bill. 520 00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:45,920 Speaker 4: Well, I tell a story when we were doing three 521 00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:48,640 Speaker 4: Games to Glory two, I had him and I looked 522 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:51,240 Speaker 4: it up. I forgot who else it was him, Dion 523 00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:54,560 Speaker 4: Branch and Givens, and we did a director's cut where 524 00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:57,600 Speaker 4: they watched the game and commented on it while we're 525 00:22:57,640 --> 00:23:01,520 Speaker 4: watching the game, and after words, after we shot it, 526 00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:04,320 Speaker 4: I had Rabel sat down and watch some of the 527 00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:06,880 Speaker 4: other stuff because he was interested. And he sits down, 528 00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:09,240 Speaker 4: He's like, why'd you do this? Edit? You should have 529 00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:11,200 Speaker 4: done this, you should have done that. I'm like, Okay, 530 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:16,520 Speaker 4: this guy like he wants he's got opinions about everything, 531 00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:18,760 Speaker 4: and that was good. Now we were too far down 532 00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:21,639 Speaker 4: the process to make changes, but some of the things 533 00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:25,320 Speaker 4: that he said made sense, you know, from a player's standpoint, 534 00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:29,040 Speaker 4: So maybe I'll remind him of that. That was three 535 00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:34,119 Speaker 4: games to glory two after the Panthers win, so good stuff. 536 00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:37,880 Speaker 4: I was very excited. So Matt, I think we're gonna 537 00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:40,520 Speaker 4: wrap it up. The three of us are going to 538 00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:43,520 Speaker 4: head up to the SI Pavilion where they're having the 539 00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:46,560 Speaker 4: press conference, so we're gonna have that live on Patriots 540 00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:50,119 Speaker 4: dot com as well. Watch that, and then there'll probably 541 00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:53,240 Speaker 4: be some time in between the ending of that to 542 00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:55,800 Speaker 4: when we get back down here, but we'll be back 543 00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:57,159 Speaker 4: with a full show right after that. 544 00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:01,920 Speaker 7: Isn't it time to get exactly what you want? 545 00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:05,199 Speaker 12: Welcome to Red Hot Deal Days from Verizon, where you 546 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:08,080 Speaker 12: get your pick of our best deals like my Plan, 547 00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:10,240 Speaker 12: where you can pick the perse you want and save 548 00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:12,000 Speaker 12: on everyone. 549 00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:12,360 Speaker 7: For limited time. 550 00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:14,639 Speaker 12: Bring your own phones to a Verizon store and you 551 00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:17,680 Speaker 12: can get my plan for our best price ever. 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These deals won't last. 576 00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:27,520 Speaker 12: It's your Verizon. 577 00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:38,560 Speaker 14: Well welcome. We were gathered here today. We were gathered 578 00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:46,040 Speaker 14: here fifteen months ago at the Sports Illustrator Pavilion to 579 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:51,840 Speaker 14: welcome Mike as a new inductee into the Patriots Hall 580 00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:56,879 Speaker 14: of Fame. And I'm really proud that fifteen months later, 581 00:25:57,520 --> 00:26:02,360 Speaker 14: we're back here today to invite him and his lovely 582 00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:07,080 Speaker 14: wife Jen to announce as the new head coach of 583 00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:09,960 Speaker 14: the New England Patriots. I'd like to ask Jen if 584 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:11,840 Speaker 14: she'd come up here for a moment. 585 00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:19,240 Speaker 4: This is from our. 586 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:23,600 Speaker 8: This is from our entire fan base. 587 00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:27,359 Speaker 14: Here to tell you how excited we are about your 588 00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:28,840 Speaker 14: both being Thank you. 589 00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:35,399 Speaker 8: So. 590 00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:42,040 Speaker 14: Mike's history with the NFL, you know, it's sort of 591 00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:47,000 Speaker 14: his experience is what embodies what's great about the NFL. 592 00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:54,280 Speaker 14: He joined us in two thousand and one as an 593 00:26:54,359 --> 00:27:00,440 Speaker 14: unheralded free agent, and he had never started a game. 594 00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:04,240 Speaker 14: He had been in the league four years, and he 595 00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:09,359 Speaker 14: joined us, and he became a starter those next four 596 00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:13,760 Speaker 14: years and we were privileged to win three Super Bowls 597 00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:19,080 Speaker 14: in that time. And his impact, because of his work 598 00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:24,520 Speaker 14: ethic and his competitive drive and his leadership skills made 599 00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:33,120 Speaker 14: it very special those four years. And those personal characteristics 600 00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:38,000 Speaker 14: also made him a very high performing coach, which he 601 00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:44,679 Speaker 14: had started to do seven years ago. After being a 602 00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:48,679 Speaker 14: linebacker coach at Ohio State for a year, he became 603 00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:53,440 Speaker 14: a new coach at the Tennessee Titans for six years 604 00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:58,159 Speaker 14: and finished with a record, a winning record. You know, 605 00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:02,879 Speaker 14: I might remind everyone in the room. In twenty nineteen, 606 00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:08,320 Speaker 14: he beat us right here in the playoffs. It was 607 00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:13,200 Speaker 14: Tommy's last game as a Patriot, and then he went 608 00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:18,600 Speaker 14: on to Baltimore and beat the Ravens there who were 609 00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:24,000 Speaker 14: the number one seed. And then in twenty twenty one, 610 00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:28,560 Speaker 14: he finished with the best record in the AFC twelve 611 00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:32,080 Speaker 14: and five and it was the number one season, number 612 00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:42,920 Speaker 14: one team. In the interview process, Mike showed us that 613 00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:47,200 Speaker 14: he had a very deep understanding of our current team 614 00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:52,280 Speaker 14: and most importantly, he had a clear and focused strategy 615 00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:57,200 Speaker 14: of how to get us back to a championship way 616 00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:03,040 Speaker 14: that is so important to all of us, but also 617 00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:08,920 Speaker 14: something that I think our fan base really deserves and expects. 618 00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:15,640 Speaker 14: So with that being said, it's my great honor to 619 00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:18,920 Speaker 14: introduce you all to the next head coach of the 620 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:21,760 Speaker 14: New England Patriots, Mike Rabel. 621 00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:32,360 Speaker 8: Thank you guys. 622 00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:34,400 Speaker 15: Can put your cameras down and clap a little bit. 623 00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:37,040 Speaker 15: Some of you familiar faces that I remember from back 624 00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:42,680 Speaker 15: in the day, but that's okay. Thank you, Robert. You 625 00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:45,880 Speaker 15: know I'm humbled, I'm grateful. It's a lot of people 626 00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:49,160 Speaker 15: that have helped me get to this point, and I 627 00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:51,080 Speaker 15: want to thank them. I want to use this opportunity 628 00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:53,600 Speaker 15: to thank them in front of you. You'll get to 629 00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:56,840 Speaker 15: know some of them, most of them. 630 00:29:57,240 --> 00:29:58,880 Speaker 8: And I want to thank my family. I want to 631 00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:01,200 Speaker 8: thank Jen and Along for this ride. 632 00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:05,400 Speaker 15: For quite a while, Tyler and Carter, who grew up here, 633 00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:06,520 Speaker 15: who spent time here. 634 00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:12,040 Speaker 8: You know, it probably wasn't the easiest thing to be. 635 00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:15,000 Speaker 15: My son as I was trying to figure this out 636 00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:17,120 Speaker 15: and figure out the difference between being a dad and 637 00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:17,720 Speaker 15: being a coach. 638 00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:24,400 Speaker 8: So I love them dearly. You'll see them around hopefully. Obviously. 639 00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:26,920 Speaker 15: Want to thank my parents, thank Chuck and e Lane. 640 00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:30,640 Speaker 15: And as I go through this interview process, I'm always 641 00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:33,600 Speaker 15: quick to tell people that I'm an only child and 642 00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:35,680 Speaker 15: only children are spoiled, which I was. 643 00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:37,480 Speaker 8: I was an only child of two educators. 644 00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:41,480 Speaker 15: But my dad was a basketball coach and assistant football coach, 645 00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:43,960 Speaker 15: and he taught me what it. 646 00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:44,120 Speaker 8: Was to. 647 00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:49,760 Speaker 15: Be tough, to work hard, and to embrace being part 648 00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:52,640 Speaker 15: of a team and loving being part of a team, 649 00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:54,920 Speaker 15: and how powerful that can be when you're an only child. 650 00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:58,760 Speaker 15: Those are probably hard things to understand, but I would 651 00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:00,960 Speaker 15: tell you that those are things that I built. 652 00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:03,000 Speaker 8: On, that I believe in that I want to try. 653 00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:06,000 Speaker 15: To put as many people in this building and around 654 00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:08,720 Speaker 15: our players that are like that, so I thank them. 655 00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:12,000 Speaker 15: I want to thank Robert and Jonathan and Daniel and 656 00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:17,240 Speaker 15: the entire Craft family, not only for the time that 657 00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:20,440 Speaker 15: I spent here as a player, but the experience a 658 00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:23,400 Speaker 15: year and a half ago that Robert mentioned with the 659 00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:27,720 Speaker 15: Hall of Fame, just the class that they showed myself, 660 00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:32,560 Speaker 15: my family, my friends, the people that came. You know, 661 00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:36,000 Speaker 15: I think the biggest one of the biggest groups I'd 662 00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:38,200 Speaker 15: like to thank are the players that have impacted me 663 00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:42,600 Speaker 15: along the way from Ohio State that when I didn't 664 00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:45,320 Speaker 15: know what I was doing, I had no idea. I 665 00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:47,760 Speaker 15: just try to figure it out as I went along 666 00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:52,160 Speaker 15: to the ones that I had in Houston to the 667 00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:57,400 Speaker 15: ones in Tennessee. Robert mentioned that we won twelve games 668 00:31:57,440 --> 00:31:59,800 Speaker 15: in two thousand and one. We played ninety one players 669 00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:04,160 Speaker 15: and they all cared about the team immensely. They would 670 00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:07,960 Speaker 15: do whatever it took for the team to win. And 671 00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:10,760 Speaker 15: and with that, the coaches that have impacted me along 672 00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:14,240 Speaker 15: the way, my high school football coach Jerry Reardon. I 673 00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:18,040 Speaker 15: think I've had a great opportunity to play for, to 674 00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:22,880 Speaker 15: coach with, and coach for some unbelievable mentors people that 675 00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:29,240 Speaker 15: have helped shape me. From John Cooper, Bill Cower, John Mitchell, 676 00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:35,000 Speaker 15: Romeo Cornell, Bill Belichick and the multiple coaches that were 677 00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:40,640 Speaker 15: here to to to Luke Fickle, to Urban Meyer, to 678 00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:46,160 Speaker 15: Bill O'Brien, who who you know held up his end 679 00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:47,640 Speaker 15: of the bargain when he asked me to come to 680 00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:50,160 Speaker 15: the Houston Texans with him. He said, I'm gonna do 681 00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:51,640 Speaker 15: everything I can to get you ready to be a 682 00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:52,160 Speaker 15: head coach. 683 00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:53,000 Speaker 4: Uh. 684 00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:55,280 Speaker 15: He did that, and he's a he's a great friend, 685 00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:58,440 Speaker 15: and I'm gonna support Billy every way I can. 686 00:32:58,360 --> 00:32:59,720 Speaker 8: Up the road at Chestnut Hill. 687 00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:04,719 Speaker 15: So you know, the assistant coaches that have you know, 688 00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:09,440 Speaker 15: held me accountable, you know, to to leading the team 689 00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:12,240 Speaker 15: sometimes when you know when you're not right or you 690 00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:15,440 Speaker 15: need somebody to say, hey, there's another way. And I 691 00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:18,000 Speaker 15: want to thank those coaches because to be in this 692 00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:22,040 Speaker 15: situation you need so many people around you, and you 693 00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:26,760 Speaker 15: put in place to to help the players. I want 694 00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:29,080 Speaker 15: to thank the teams that were you know, willing to 695 00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:32,160 Speaker 15: meet with me through this process to give me an 696 00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:36,120 Speaker 15: opportunity to potentially lead their team. But in the end, 697 00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:38,720 Speaker 15: you know, it was clear to me and to my 698 00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:42,200 Speaker 15: family and my soul that this was the place that 699 00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:42,520 Speaker 15: that I. 700 00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:42,960 Speaker 8: Wanted to be. 701 00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:45,920 Speaker 15: And uh and I thank Robert, and I think the 702 00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:53,040 Speaker 15: Craft family, you know, excited, excited to get to work, 703 00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:55,560 Speaker 15: Excited to meet the people in this building that have 704 00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:59,600 Speaker 15: made this place special, find out what they need, find 705 00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:02,000 Speaker 15: out how I can help them, how I can help 706 00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:04,560 Speaker 15: them do their job better, how we can enhance the 707 00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:07,320 Speaker 15: stuff that we do well, and then find out what 708 00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:11,000 Speaker 15: the areas of focus are and get to work. I 709 00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:15,640 Speaker 15: want to galvanize our football team. I want to galvanize 710 00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:19,239 Speaker 15: this building. I want to gualvanize our fans. And the 711 00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:21,279 Speaker 15: most important thing are the players, there's some of them 712 00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:25,080 Speaker 15: right here. I want to provide a program that provides 713 00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:30,960 Speaker 15: their ownership but also their accountability of each other, and 714 00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:33,120 Speaker 15: one that they'll be proud to be a part of 715 00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:36,920 Speaker 15: and that they're going to fight for. You know, you 716 00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:40,319 Speaker 15: guys are going to ask me questions about culture, which 717 00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:43,160 Speaker 15: I'll be happy to talk about and discuss. One thing 718 00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:45,719 Speaker 15: I've realized about culture is that you can find out 719 00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:48,240 Speaker 15: what your culture looks like when your family, your business, 720 00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:49,120 Speaker 15: or your team. 721 00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:50,040 Speaker 8: Is that it's low point. 722 00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:54,040 Speaker 15: It's not when you're winning super Bowls, or it's not 723 00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:57,320 Speaker 15: when you're seven and one or ten and one, because 724 00:34:57,360 --> 00:35:00,359 Speaker 15: then then everybody's waving towels and everybody's happy and they're 725 00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:02,520 Speaker 15: excited to come to work. But when you get hit 726 00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:04,920 Speaker 15: in the mouth, or you're down, or the chips are 727 00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:07,480 Speaker 15: against you, you know, then you can take a snapshot 728 00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:09,400 Speaker 15: of what your company or your team looks like, and 729 00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:11,160 Speaker 15: then you'll find out what kind of culture you have. 730 00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:14,880 Speaker 15: But that culture is going to be built on winning, 731 00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:20,040 Speaker 15: a competitive spirit throughout our roster, throughout our players, and 732 00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:23,320 Speaker 15: throughout our coaches and our staff, and the ability to 733 00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:27,600 Speaker 15: put the team first and care about somebody other than yourself. 734 00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:31,120 Speaker 8: And I'm excited to do that. I'm excited to get 735 00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:31,520 Speaker 8: to work. 736 00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:35,440 Speaker 15: But everything and everyone in this building is going to 737 00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:40,040 Speaker 15: understand and believe that their job is critically important for 738 00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:43,480 Speaker 15: our success. And it's going to be you know, how 739 00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:46,000 Speaker 15: can I help you in order to help the players. 740 00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:49,640 Speaker 15: Our players will respect and they will appreciate and they 741 00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:51,920 Speaker 15: will be grateful for the opportunity that they have here. 742 00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:54,719 Speaker 15: And the people that work in this building some very 743 00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:59,560 Speaker 15: familiar faces that I can't wait to reconnect and to 744 00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:01,480 Speaker 15: work and figure out how we help these players in 745 00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:04,319 Speaker 15: this football team. And we're going to earn the right 746 00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:08,600 Speaker 15: to be here every day. We're gonna remove and uh 747 00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:12,759 Speaker 15: entitlement from from our football team. We're gonna we're gonna 748 00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:16,399 Speaker 15: get everything that we've earned from from the. 749 00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:18,600 Speaker 8: Head coach to the position coaches. 750 00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:20,719 Speaker 15: All the way down to the players. We're going to 751 00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:25,120 Speaker 15: earn the right to be here every single day. You know, 752 00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:26,880 Speaker 15: I always say that, you know, I don't want to 753 00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:29,400 Speaker 15: get into too many messages that will be geared for 754 00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:34,040 Speaker 15: the players, you know, but I hold those those conversations, 755 00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:38,400 Speaker 15: you know, those are special conversations between the coaches and 756 00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:40,640 Speaker 15: the players. But you know, we want to treat every 757 00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:42,680 Speaker 15: player the same way they treat the team, and we 758 00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:45,520 Speaker 15: want to treat every employee the same way that they 759 00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:48,800 Speaker 15: treat the team. And if they care about the team, uh, 760 00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:50,600 Speaker 15: and they come here with a great attitude and a 761 00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:53,600 Speaker 15: willingness to work and help the team, I've asked Robert 762 00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:57,040 Speaker 15: to do everything that we can for them to support 763 00:36:57,080 --> 00:37:00,800 Speaker 15: them and their families. That that's the type of environment 764 00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:03,839 Speaker 15: that I want to build and I'm excited about it. 765 00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:08,239 Speaker 15: And with that, I would love to answer any questions. 766 00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:18,040 Speaker 8: That you have. Hi, Mike, anybody, welcome back. Thanks. 767 00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:21,040 Speaker 16: Just a thought on everything that you've said kind of 768 00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:24,399 Speaker 16: wrapped in your career as a player here you said 769 00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:27,040 Speaker 16: this is a special place. As a coach, now, how 770 00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:30,560 Speaker 16: would you describe what kind of players you want to 771 00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:32,520 Speaker 16: wear a Patriot uniform to help. 772 00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:33,440 Speaker 3: You win as an organization. 773 00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:36,959 Speaker 8: Elliott's gonna laugh. I'm gonna say, good ones. 774 00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:41,360 Speaker 15: That's just an inside joke between him and I already 775 00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:44,719 Speaker 15: just over the weekend and through the interview process. But uh, 776 00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:47,279 Speaker 15: you know, we're going to ask our players to just 777 00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:50,879 Speaker 15: do a few things. One is one is to put 778 00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:53,880 Speaker 15: the team first, to know what to do, uh, and 779 00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:57,080 Speaker 15: play fast and aggressive. So that's the vision for the 780 00:37:57,360 --> 00:38:01,080 Speaker 15: type of player. Winners coming, all shits and sizes, right, 781 00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:04,560 Speaker 15: We're going to have leaders. Leaders are going to identify themselves. 782 00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:09,680 Speaker 15: I have know that our staff and our ability to 783 00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:15,200 Speaker 15: create winners and competitors are probably easier than it is 784 00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:18,360 Speaker 15: to create leaders. And the leaders are going to identify themselves. 785 00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:21,200 Speaker 15: The leaders are going to ones that define the culture. 786 00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:25,000 Speaker 15: The culture will be the you know what drives and 787 00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:28,480 Speaker 15: gives you the results that we're all you know after, 788 00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:32,239 Speaker 15: So the type of player, you know they're there when 789 00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:37,839 Speaker 15: you get into scouting and evaluation. Every team has a height, weight, speed, right, 790 00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:41,440 Speaker 15: and then it's our job to you know, take analytical 791 00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:43,759 Speaker 15: data and watch the tape and just figure out where 792 00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:46,879 Speaker 15: they fit best for us. And maybe they're the best 793 00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:50,160 Speaker 15: ones and the right ones. That would be wonderful, but uh, 794 00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:53,000 Speaker 15: it's a long process. And those are the things we're 795 00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:54,640 Speaker 15: going to ask the players to do. Is put the 796 00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:57,400 Speaker 15: team first, know what to do and play fast and 797 00:38:57,400 --> 00:38:59,240 Speaker 15: aggressive and play with some speed. 798 00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:07,520 Speaker 17: Congratulations, thank you you live through the collaborative process, especially 799 00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:10,200 Speaker 17: at the end in Tennessee. I'm curious how you view 800 00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:14,560 Speaker 17: that and do you have roster control control over the draft. 801 00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:16,680 Speaker 8: Here with the Patriots, well. 802 00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:18,560 Speaker 15: I think the most important thing is that there's a 803 00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:23,840 Speaker 15: there's a shared organizational vision for what we want to 804 00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:26,799 Speaker 15: do and how we want to work and how we 805 00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:30,800 Speaker 15: want to acquire players. There's numerous ways to acquire players 806 00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:37,719 Speaker 15: through free agency, trade, draft, post draft process, post after 807 00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:41,040 Speaker 15: training camp. So again, I'm just excited to get to 808 00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:42,680 Speaker 15: sit down with Elliott and his staff. 809 00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:44,200 Speaker 8: I've met more with Elliott over the. 810 00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:50,120 Speaker 15: Weekend than I have had conversations with him. But I 811 00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:52,680 Speaker 15: need to sit down with his staff and get figure 812 00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:54,960 Speaker 15: out where we're at what we need to do. Uh 813 00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:59,120 Speaker 15: And I'm confident that those types of decisions are all gonna, 814 00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:03,759 Speaker 15: you know, sort themselves out that that we're we don't 815 00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:06,040 Speaker 15: want to always be on the same page, like that's 816 00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:09,279 Speaker 15: not the environment that we want to create. But we 817 00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:12,120 Speaker 15: want to have a shared vision and there's also different 818 00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:15,040 Speaker 15: ways to get there, and I'm embracing that everybody is 819 00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:17,560 Speaker 15: going to have a different personality. I don't want my 820 00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:19,319 Speaker 15: staff to be like me. I don't want all our 821 00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:22,080 Speaker 15: players to be similar. You know, We're going to have 822 00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:26,360 Speaker 15: diverse ideas and that's critical and to be able to 823 00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:29,399 Speaker 15: have those types of conversations. It's something that I'm looking 824 00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:35,239 Speaker 15: forward to. Hey Mike, Hey Tommy, what is. 825 00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:38,960 Speaker 8: Your plan for offensive and defensive coordinators? Is that solidified already? 826 00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:42,319 Speaker 8: And if not, what's the process? No, that's that's far 827 00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:43,200 Speaker 8: from solidified. 828 00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:47,920 Speaker 15: You know, we want to put the best talented coaches 829 00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:51,080 Speaker 15: in front of our players. When they stand in front 830 00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:54,200 Speaker 15: of these players, they I want the players to embrace 831 00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:58,239 Speaker 15: what every coach is teaching. And I will tell you 832 00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:01,680 Speaker 15: this as long as I'm the head coach here. Uh, 833 00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:05,600 Speaker 15: our coaches will have three simple jobs. And they sound simple, 834 00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:08,120 Speaker 15: and they're probably not as simple as we want. 835 00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:08,400 Speaker 8: To make them be. 836 00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:10,920 Speaker 15: But they want to teach, they want to develop, and 837 00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:13,360 Speaker 15: they want to inspire our players by making a connection. 838 00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:19,440 Speaker 15: We're going to make strong connections with our players so 839 00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:22,600 Speaker 15: that we can we can coach them and we can 840 00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:28,400 Speaker 15: push them. And you know, there's I've I've really believed 841 00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:31,360 Speaker 15: in this system, and I believe in having great teachers, 842 00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:37,120 Speaker 15: great developers, and and also coaches that will inspire our 843 00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:39,879 Speaker 15: our men by by making a connection so that they 844 00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:41,319 Speaker 15: know exactly. 845 00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:45,440 Speaker 8: What makes them tick. Like we all have stuff outside 846 00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:45,719 Speaker 8: of here. 847 00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:48,680 Speaker 15: Every every single coach, every single player, every single person 848 00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:51,080 Speaker 15: in our building is going to have something outside of 849 00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:55,800 Speaker 15: football with their family, mentally, physically, They're all going to 850 00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:58,840 Speaker 15: deal with something. It's going to look different, uh and 851 00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:01,600 Speaker 15: and it's gonna smell different, but it's something, and we 852 00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:03,759 Speaker 15: got to deal with it, and we got to when 853 00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:06,879 Speaker 15: they come in the building, do everything that we can 854 00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:12,200 Speaker 15: to help them do their jobs. And I do feel 855 00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:15,480 Speaker 15: the shared experiences that I've had as a player. One 856 00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:18,160 Speaker 15: thats Robert mentioned didn't start a game for four years 857 00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:22,759 Speaker 15: and made the roster because of special teams and occasionally 858 00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:25,719 Speaker 15: playing on third down and backing up and being a 859 00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:28,680 Speaker 15: backup at more than one position, to a free agent 860 00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:32,319 Speaker 15: that took an opportunity to come here and started for 861 00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:34,799 Speaker 15: the next ten years of his career to being a 862 00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:37,640 Speaker 15: you know, a veteran player who was expected to produce 863 00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:40,400 Speaker 15: at a high level, to one that, as he got older, 864 00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:44,920 Speaker 15: was traded to another team that then had to start. 865 00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:46,960 Speaker 8: Over to had to act as a coach. 866 00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:50,440 Speaker 15: So I feel like that every player that sits in 867 00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:52,360 Speaker 15: that meeting room I can at some point in my 868 00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:56,319 Speaker 15: career relate to and have a conversation about. 869 00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:02,840 Speaker 8: I Mike, Hey, what's. 870 00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:05,600 Speaker 18: Your philosophy When it comes to developing a young quarterback. 871 00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:07,560 Speaker 8: And how do you plan on helping Drake May which 872 00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:08,200 Speaker 8: is potential. 873 00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:11,600 Speaker 15: Yeah, put put great people around him. You know, we 874 00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:14,520 Speaker 15: we have to uh, you know, I would say that 875 00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:21,160 Speaker 15: my involvement will be as it relates to game management 876 00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:25,120 Speaker 15: and and and situational awareness and where we are on 877 00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:28,200 Speaker 15: a football field, and and trying to develop him as 878 00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:30,799 Speaker 15: as a leader of the offense. And when that quarterback, 879 00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:33,879 Speaker 15: you know, when they call to play, like you want 880 00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:35,799 Speaker 15: to say, like everybody is going to believe it, it's 881 00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:38,160 Speaker 15: going to score a touchdown, Like with that type of 882 00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:44,160 Speaker 15: emphasis on on how everything is going to operate. And uh, 883 00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:46,480 Speaker 15: you know where Drake is going to be his own person. 884 00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:48,759 Speaker 15: But but I'm going to give him some things that 885 00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:52,080 Speaker 15: I feel like are necessary to help us win football games. 886 00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:58,000 Speaker 8: We we have to. 887 00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:58,480 Speaker 15: Be a very efficient passing football team, right and when 888 00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:01,759 Speaker 15: you look at statistically what wins in the National Football League, 889 00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:04,799 Speaker 15: our ability to affect the other team's quarterback and our 890 00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:08,839 Speaker 15: ability to provide for an efficient quarterback and passing game 891 00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:12,480 Speaker 15: is a high contributor to success. And there's a lot 892 00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:16,239 Speaker 15: of ways to do that. You know, by protecting the 893 00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:19,359 Speaker 15: middle of the pocket and you know, all those things 894 00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:21,400 Speaker 15: that we're going to talk about as we move forward, 895 00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:24,480 Speaker 15: but how we protect the football, how we're aggressive but 896 00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:29,080 Speaker 15: not reckless, understanding where we are in the game, and 897 00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:32,560 Speaker 15: the situational awareness that I feel like I've developed over 898 00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:35,640 Speaker 15: six years and then my past year in Cleveland. And 899 00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:38,000 Speaker 15: I'd be remiss if I didn't thank the you know, 900 00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:41,000 Speaker 15: the Cleveland Browns organization for the opportunity that they provided 901 00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:45,839 Speaker 15: me last year with Jimmy and d Haslam and then 902 00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:48,400 Speaker 15: Andrew Berry and Kevin Stefanski and all those coaches and 903 00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:51,480 Speaker 15: players that allowed me to spend some time with them 904 00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:52,040 Speaker 15: last year. 905 00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:56,200 Speaker 8: Mike welcome. 906 00:44:56,320 --> 00:45:00,920 Speaker 19: Hey, it's been reported that you'd like to bring Ryan Cowden, 907 00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:03,680 Speaker 19: who you have a relationship with, to New England here 908 00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:05,400 Speaker 19: to help with the front office. Is that something you 909 00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:07,080 Speaker 19: plan on doing or is there somebody else that you 910 00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:09,239 Speaker 19: might bring to the front office to help in that role. 911 00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:13,279 Speaker 15: Yeah, Elliot and I will have conversations and as the 912 00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:17,960 Speaker 15: relates to the staff, like, nothing has been finalized, nothing's 913 00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:22,839 Speaker 15: been determined. You know, as with any any staff, there's 914 00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:25,880 Speaker 15: going to be turnover. There's going to be new coaches 915 00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:29,600 Speaker 15: and new faces, some that I will have history with, 916 00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:31,840 Speaker 15: and some that I that I won't and that's what 917 00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:35,080 Speaker 15: the interview process is, uh, And that's what we're going 918 00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:37,840 Speaker 15: to do. Is Tom mentioned about with the coordinators and 919 00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:42,640 Speaker 15: you know, being able to to you know, sit down 920 00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:44,759 Speaker 15: with a bunch of coaches and be able to get 921 00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:47,200 Speaker 15: the best and the right fit around our players. 922 00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:52,560 Speaker 5: Mike, congratulations. 923 00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:53,160 Speaker 8: Thanks. 924 00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:55,200 Speaker 5: I know during your when you were inducting in the 925 00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:58,000 Speaker 5: Patriots Hall of Fame, you said that this place is special. 926 00:45:58,040 --> 00:45:59,560 Speaker 8: You've been in a lot of places, this one special. 927 00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:01,239 Speaker 5: What is it that makes it so special for you? 928 00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:06,400 Speaker 15: Well, I mean the history of winning and the championships, 929 00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:09,000 Speaker 15: and you know, I would like to thank the teammates 930 00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:11,319 Speaker 15: that I had here in the eight years that I 931 00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:13,319 Speaker 15: was here, and the teammates that I. 932 00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:13,600 Speaker 7: Had and. 933 00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:19,360 Speaker 15: Pittsburgh and the one and the younger players uh in 934 00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:21,960 Speaker 15: Kansas City that I learned stuff from. 935 00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:24,000 Speaker 8: But but that's. 936 00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:26,799 Speaker 15: What I mean, the people, the history, and not that 937 00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:29,719 Speaker 15: the the the banners that hang in our stadium, they're 938 00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:31,359 Speaker 15: they're not going to help us win, but I think 939 00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:35,040 Speaker 15: it's a great reminder of what it takes to win 940 00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:37,400 Speaker 15: and the type of people that you haven't have to 941 00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:41,840 Speaker 15: have in the organization. The selflessness and the work and 942 00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:43,719 Speaker 15: the sacrifice that you have to make. So to me, 943 00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:47,240 Speaker 15: those are great reminders of what it takes. Just because 944 00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:50,600 Speaker 15: those banners hang, uh that that's not going to give 945 00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:52,840 Speaker 15: us an advantage on the field, but it's going to 946 00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:55,520 Speaker 15: give us a blueprint on how hard we need to 947 00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:56,839 Speaker 15: work and the things that we need to do. 948 00:46:56,800 --> 00:47:04,200 Speaker 8: To be successful. I'm surprised they didn't let you go first, Karen, 949 00:47:04,239 --> 00:47:06,360 Speaker 8: they didn't let me. I would have let you go first. 950 00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:09,759 Speaker 14: Thank you, Mike, You're welcome and congratulations. 951 00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:12,320 Speaker 10: I was wondering if. 952 00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:16,040 Speaker 15: You have yet had a conversation with Drake May and 953 00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:21,080 Speaker 15: also what your impressions were of his rookie season watching 954 00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:24,799 Speaker 15: from afar, Karen, I'm smiling, Karen, because I know I 955 00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:26,759 Speaker 15: look a lot older than I did when I played here, 956 00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:29,480 Speaker 15: and Karen looks exactly the same way she did when 957 00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:31,120 Speaker 15: she stood in front of me in the locker room. 958 00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:32,360 Speaker 8: That's amazing, Karen. 959 00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:32,880 Speaker 10: Thank you. 960 00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:38,080 Speaker 15: Whatever you're I need some of that, I need it. Yes, 961 00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:41,400 Speaker 15: I've had, Yes, I've had I've had conversations with players 962 00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:43,040 Speaker 15: on our team, you know, and. 963 00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:45,680 Speaker 8: Who that's been with. 964 00:47:47,120 --> 00:47:48,680 Speaker 15: You know that that I'm going to try to do 965 00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:50,719 Speaker 15: to the next couple of days, try to reach out 966 00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:52,560 Speaker 15: to every player and the ones that are here rehabbing 967 00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:55,839 Speaker 15: and that come through here, and the ones that I'll 968 00:47:56,040 --> 00:47:58,239 Speaker 15: that I'll call and talk and and ask what I 969 00:47:58,280 --> 00:47:59,880 Speaker 15: can do to help, and where they're at and the 970 00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:06,600 Speaker 15: off season and how we how we move forward. Everybody 971 00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:10,520 Speaker 15: got here and we'll get here through a different avenue. 972 00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:11,239 Speaker 8: Right. 973 00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:13,520 Speaker 15: Maybe we drafted them, maybe we signed them as a 974 00:48:13,520 --> 00:48:15,800 Speaker 15: free agent, Maybe we will sign them as a free agent. 975 00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:18,960 Speaker 15: But none of that will matter. None of that will 976 00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:21,600 Speaker 15: matter how how we got here. The only thing that's 977 00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:23,920 Speaker 15: gonna matter is what we do when we're here. And 978 00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:26,640 Speaker 15: that's the most important thing that I can tell them 979 00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:28,840 Speaker 15: is that everybody in my eyes. 980 00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:29,399 Speaker 8: Is starting over. 981 00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:30,279 Speaker 14: Uh. 982 00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:31,520 Speaker 8: And they will prove to. 983 00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:35,640 Speaker 15: Us and to this team, UH that that their impact 984 00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:40,280 Speaker 15: that they'll make. And UH, we're gonna give those players 985 00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:44,040 Speaker 15: an opportunity. And whether we all have to be ready 986 00:48:44,040 --> 00:48:49,040 Speaker 15: to take advantage of our opportunities. Some people get more opportunities, UH, 987 00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:51,799 Speaker 15: some people get less. But we're all guaranteed an opportunity, 988 00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:56,799 Speaker 15: and and will you take advantage of it when it comes? 989 00:48:58,920 --> 00:49:02,719 Speaker 20: I might congratulations, thank you in the wake of your 990 00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:05,399 Speaker 20: success at Tennessee. You referenced the experience you had last 991 00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:08,440 Speaker 20: year at Cleveland. How did that help you evolve as 992 00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:10,960 Speaker 20: a coach? How were you a different coach today than 993 00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:12,879 Speaker 20: you were at the end of twenty three one. 994 00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:18,040 Speaker 15: I realized that I missed it with everything that I 995 00:49:18,080 --> 00:49:21,879 Speaker 15: had in my soul, that I missed having the opportunity 996 00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:28,360 Speaker 15: to lead, to help put a team together, a staff together. 997 00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:35,600 Speaker 15: That I missed that. But I also embraced helping out 998 00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:38,480 Speaker 15: the players and the younger players. That allowed me more 999 00:49:38,520 --> 00:49:41,880 Speaker 15: time to try to develop younger players that were on 1000 00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:44,879 Speaker 15: the practice squad, whether that be with the tight ends 1001 00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:46,000 Speaker 15: or the offensive line. 1002 00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:48,880 Speaker 8: I really enjoyed Kevin's idea. 1003 00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:51,960 Speaker 15: Of putting a defensive coach or what would seem to 1004 00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:56,600 Speaker 15: be a defensive coach with the offense. You know, I'm 1005 00:49:56,600 --> 00:49:58,640 Speaker 15: sure if you ask people in Tennessee, they would think 1006 00:49:58,680 --> 00:50:00,839 Speaker 15: that I was probably the third or four offensive line 1007 00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:02,560 Speaker 15: coach as much time as I spent in there. But 1008 00:50:03,160 --> 00:50:05,080 Speaker 15: I know how important it is to a football team 1009 00:50:05,080 --> 00:50:08,320 Speaker 15: and to an offense, and so really enjoyed getting to 1010 00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:11,360 Speaker 15: know those players and teaching them and helping helping the staff, 1011 00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:15,399 Speaker 15: helping the young coaches. It just reminded me the Yes, 1012 00:50:15,520 --> 00:50:18,520 Speaker 15: I'm not forgetting you know, all the small little details 1013 00:50:18,840 --> 00:50:22,200 Speaker 15: right that are critical in coaching and teaching to be 1014 00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:25,040 Speaker 15: able to work with young coaches and help them prepare, 1015 00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:28,720 Speaker 15: interview them, have mock interviews so that they could develop. 1016 00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:31,160 Speaker 8: You know, I always tell them whatever. 1017 00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:34,120 Speaker 15: No one had a worse first coaching interview than I did, 1018 00:50:34,719 --> 00:50:37,880 Speaker 15: and I think that's documented. But it was with Urban Meyert, 1019 00:50:37,880 --> 00:50:40,960 Speaker 15: Ohio State, and it was it was guaranteed to be 1020 00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:44,160 Speaker 15: the worst interview that anybody's ever had. And I got 1021 00:50:44,200 --> 00:50:49,279 Speaker 15: another opportunity eight hours later, and I did a little 1022 00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:52,760 Speaker 15: better the second time. So I try to was able 1023 00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:55,120 Speaker 15: to work with the young coaches and really just get 1024 00:50:55,160 --> 00:50:58,040 Speaker 15: back to focusing on teaching and developing and what their 1025 00:50:58,080 --> 00:51:00,880 Speaker 15: style can be. And then the player is of you know, 1026 00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:04,280 Speaker 15: the fundamentals that are critical, Like we're gonna play with detail, 1027 00:51:05,320 --> 00:51:07,759 Speaker 15: We're gonna play with technique, We're gonna play with fundamentals. 1028 00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:11,080 Speaker 15: There's gonna be a brand of football that that everybody 1029 00:51:11,440 --> 00:51:14,600 Speaker 15: associated with our with our team or fans is going 1030 00:51:14,680 --> 00:51:15,239 Speaker 15: to be proud of. 1031 00:51:17,080 --> 00:51:20,520 Speaker 8: Hi, Mike, welcome home. Oh thanks for taking questions. 1032 00:51:21,680 --> 00:51:24,200 Speaker 21: You've got the number four draft pick you've got some 1033 00:51:24,280 --> 00:51:27,000 Speaker 21: cap space. I assume mister Craft has told you the 1034 00:51:27,080 --> 00:51:30,359 Speaker 21: checkbook is open. What are some of the top priorities 1035 00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:32,680 Speaker 21: going forward for you to fill some holes on this team? 1036 00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:35,640 Speaker 8: Well, I think that player acquisition. 1037 00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:37,960 Speaker 15: I think you look at what's available in free agency 1038 00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:41,200 Speaker 15: and what you can feel like you can sign and 1039 00:51:41,200 --> 00:51:42,400 Speaker 15: then see where you come out of that. 1040 00:51:42,680 --> 00:51:46,920 Speaker 8: But certainly you look at the teams that that are 1041 00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:48,359 Speaker 8: able to you know. 1042 00:51:48,360 --> 00:51:52,680 Speaker 15: Protect the quarterback and dictate the flow of the game offensively, 1043 00:51:53,120 --> 00:51:57,120 Speaker 15: you know, making sure that upfront where we're sound, we're strong, 1044 00:51:57,200 --> 00:52:00,239 Speaker 15: whether that's through free agency or through the draft. That's 1045 00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:04,120 Speaker 15: something that's critical that the d linemen are just you know, 1046 00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:06,960 Speaker 15: they're they're getting better every year. They're getting more disruptive, 1047 00:52:07,560 --> 00:52:09,520 Speaker 15: they're getting bigger, they're getting more powerful. 1048 00:52:10,200 --> 00:52:10,399 Speaker 8: Uh. 1049 00:52:10,440 --> 00:52:13,160 Speaker 15: And so as they try to affect our quarterback, right, 1050 00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:15,160 Speaker 15: we have to have some things. 1051 00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:17,160 Speaker 8: That counterbalance that. Uh. 1052 00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:20,760 Speaker 15: And obviously personnel is the first way, and then scheme 1053 00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:23,480 Speaker 15: and style and tempo and cadence and all those things 1054 00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:25,759 Speaker 15: that are play. If our players can handle it, you know, 1055 00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:29,280 Speaker 15: then we'll shift, we'll motion, we'll go with different cadences, 1056 00:52:29,320 --> 00:52:31,800 Speaker 15: we'll go on the ball, and you know, try to 1057 00:52:31,840 --> 00:52:34,799 Speaker 15: do all those things that cause conflict, but it's going 1058 00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:35,959 Speaker 15: to not be at. 1059 00:52:35,880 --> 00:52:37,080 Speaker 8: The expense of the players. 1060 00:52:37,080 --> 00:52:39,120 Speaker 15: And if the players can only handle a certain amount, 1061 00:52:39,400 --> 00:52:41,080 Speaker 15: then that's what we're gonna do and we're gonna. 1062 00:52:40,840 --> 00:52:41,640 Speaker 8: Get really good at it. 1063 00:52:41,680 --> 00:52:45,440 Speaker 15: So we're we're going to try to just you know, 1064 00:52:45,719 --> 00:52:49,839 Speaker 15: focus on on players that again we feel like fit 1065 00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:52,280 Speaker 15: us and fit into what we're doing, that are willing 1066 00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:57,320 Speaker 15: to commit to the team. And then also, you know, uh, 1067 00:52:58,040 --> 00:53:00,400 Speaker 15: try to find players that will hold each other countable. 1068 00:53:00,840 --> 00:53:03,000 Speaker 15: And we have to get to know each other. We 1069 00:53:03,120 --> 00:53:04,880 Speaker 15: have to get you know, we got to peel some 1070 00:53:04,960 --> 00:53:08,839 Speaker 15: layers back so that you can hold each other accountable, right, 1071 00:53:08,840 --> 00:53:11,000 Speaker 15: because if you don't trust the guy next to you, 1072 00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:12,880 Speaker 15: you don't believe in him, or you don't know anything 1073 00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:16,120 Speaker 15: about his family or how he was raised, when you 1074 00:53:16,160 --> 00:53:20,239 Speaker 15: hold him accountable, then there's you know, there's pushback, right. 1075 00:53:20,280 --> 00:53:22,760 Speaker 15: And so what we're hoping to build is an environment, 1076 00:53:23,400 --> 00:53:27,560 Speaker 15: uh that everyone respects everyone else, that that we take 1077 00:53:27,640 --> 00:53:32,080 Speaker 15: time to to talk and ask and listen when when 1078 00:53:32,080 --> 00:53:35,439 Speaker 15: somebody asks you a question, uh, that that you sit 1079 00:53:35,480 --> 00:53:38,200 Speaker 15: there and you take time to answer and listen to him. 1080 00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:42,000 Speaker 15: It's important and not just have a bunch of flybys 1081 00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:43,680 Speaker 15: in the hallway and be like, Yo, how you doing, 1082 00:53:44,040 --> 00:53:47,799 Speaker 15: and then keep it moving that Hey, you know how 1083 00:53:47,840 --> 00:53:49,120 Speaker 15: you come out of that game, you know, I mean 1084 00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:53,719 Speaker 15: you'res a little banged up, how you're feeling, But that 1085 00:53:53,719 --> 00:53:56,560 Speaker 15: that takes time. You know, Those relationships take time, and 1086 00:53:56,600 --> 00:54:01,960 Speaker 15: I'm excited to start start building them. 1087 00:54:02,239 --> 00:54:03,600 Speaker 8: And Mike, welcome back. 1088 00:54:03,840 --> 00:54:07,000 Speaker 22: Hey, understanding there will probably a significant amount of overlap. 1089 00:54:07,520 --> 00:54:11,319 Speaker 22: How will your program here differ from the program you 1090 00:54:11,400 --> 00:54:14,319 Speaker 22: played in and then obviously coached against later when Bill 1091 00:54:14,440 --> 00:54:14,960 Speaker 22: was still here. 1092 00:54:15,360 --> 00:54:19,440 Speaker 15: Yeah, I mean it's gonna be all different players, new players, 1093 00:54:19,640 --> 00:54:24,040 Speaker 15: new coaches, some coaches that have remained, and people remember that, 1094 00:54:24,120 --> 00:54:27,560 Speaker 15: like they're gonna be some things like I'm not Bill, 1095 00:54:27,640 --> 00:54:29,160 Speaker 15: and I'm not Bill Cower. 1096 00:54:29,239 --> 00:54:31,480 Speaker 8: I'm not I'm not anyone other than me. 1097 00:54:31,560 --> 00:54:37,400 Speaker 15: And I've taken those experiences and I've tried to form 1098 00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:40,239 Speaker 15: what I believe is critical to the success of a 1099 00:54:40,280 --> 00:54:46,239 Speaker 15: football team and an organization. But you know, to say 1100 00:54:46,239 --> 00:54:48,960 Speaker 15: what those are going to look like, hopefully just as 1101 00:54:48,200 --> 00:54:51,359 Speaker 15: it's just as successful, you know, and our and our 1102 00:54:51,400 --> 00:54:54,839 Speaker 15: goals will be to win the AFC East, to host 1103 00:54:54,920 --> 00:54:58,120 Speaker 15: home playoff games, and to compete for championships like those. 1104 00:54:58,239 --> 00:54:58,920 Speaker 8: That's what it's. 1105 00:54:58,760 --> 00:55:01,520 Speaker 15: Gonna take and what the timeline is, just like we 1106 00:55:01,560 --> 00:55:03,239 Speaker 15: say with injuries, like we're not going to put a 1107 00:55:03,280 --> 00:55:06,200 Speaker 15: timeline on an injury, and we're certainly not going to 1108 00:55:06,239 --> 00:55:09,319 Speaker 15: put a timeline on what those will be, but that 1109 00:55:09,320 --> 00:55:11,200 Speaker 15: that's going to be the expectations, and we're going to 1110 00:55:11,280 --> 00:55:13,840 Speaker 15: work like crazy, and we're going to compete like crazy. 1111 00:55:14,200 --> 00:55:16,359 Speaker 8: We're going to give the players a plan. 1112 00:55:16,600 --> 00:55:19,239 Speaker 15: And and and they're going to form an identity on 1113 00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:21,360 Speaker 15: the field and the way that we're going to play 1114 00:55:21,920 --> 00:55:24,800 Speaker 15: uh and play for each other that they're going to 1115 00:55:24,840 --> 00:55:27,480 Speaker 15: be proud of. And we're not gonna you know, we 1116 00:55:27,600 --> 00:55:29,560 Speaker 15: just want to be good enough to take advantage of 1117 00:55:29,560 --> 00:55:33,560 Speaker 15: bad football. Like that's where we're going to start. And 1118 00:55:33,600 --> 00:55:35,799 Speaker 15: that's what I've tried to tell all the players is 1119 00:55:35,880 --> 00:55:38,400 Speaker 15: right now, I don't know if we're good enough to 1120 00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:40,799 Speaker 15: take advantage of bad football. I'm not sure like we're 1121 00:55:40,840 --> 00:55:44,360 Speaker 15: undefeated right now, but if we can just work towards 1122 00:55:45,239 --> 00:55:47,920 Speaker 15: taking advantage of bad football and being good enough to 1123 00:55:48,000 --> 00:55:51,040 Speaker 15: win somebody makes a mistake, capitalizing on it and not 1124 00:55:51,200 --> 00:55:54,040 Speaker 15: being the ones that make them mistakes and focusing on 1125 00:55:54,920 --> 00:55:58,360 Speaker 15: the little things and the details and helping them do 1126 00:55:58,440 --> 00:55:59,240 Speaker 15: their job better. 1127 00:55:59,719 --> 00:56:05,960 Speaker 8: That's great place to start. Welcome back, Mike, hy buddy, 1128 00:56:06,440 --> 00:56:09,480 Speaker 8: you don't look much different. Yes, I do. 1129 00:56:11,239 --> 00:56:11,359 Speaker 10: Uh. 1130 00:56:11,480 --> 00:56:14,000 Speaker 23: You mentioned you're not Bill. You had a special and 1131 00:56:14,120 --> 00:56:17,080 Speaker 23: unique relationship with him. What does it mean to you, 1132 00:56:17,520 --> 00:56:21,680 Speaker 23: if anything, to follow in his footsteps in this organization? 1133 00:56:22,080 --> 00:56:24,120 Speaker 8: Oh? 1134 00:56:24,120 --> 00:56:26,560 Speaker 15: I mean, I think it is unique, obviously, Like let's 1135 00:56:27,560 --> 00:56:29,839 Speaker 15: let's just be real for a minute and just say, 1136 00:56:30,680 --> 00:56:35,840 Speaker 15: you know, having played for him, and you know, having 1137 00:56:35,880 --> 00:56:40,680 Speaker 15: a competing against him, and then also having a friendship 1138 00:56:40,719 --> 00:56:46,160 Speaker 15: with Bill right along the way. You know, I think 1139 00:56:46,239 --> 00:56:50,640 Speaker 15: it's it's special. It's unique having played here knowing Bill. 1140 00:56:51,320 --> 00:56:53,920 Speaker 15: But again, we have to focus on things that are 1141 00:56:53,920 --> 00:56:57,719 Speaker 15: going to help us win now, help our players. Uh 1142 00:56:58,239 --> 00:57:00,400 Speaker 15: And and like I said, galvanized the Bill voting and 1143 00:57:00,480 --> 00:57:01,799 Speaker 15: the team. 1144 00:57:01,719 --> 00:57:05,200 Speaker 8: And our fan base. So I think that there's also things. 1145 00:57:05,239 --> 00:57:07,359 Speaker 15: I'm gonna try to explain to the players that there's 1146 00:57:07,440 --> 00:57:09,640 Speaker 15: things that are interesting and there are things that are important. 1147 00:57:10,120 --> 00:57:13,440 Speaker 15: I think me having played for Bill is interesting. I 1148 00:57:13,480 --> 00:57:19,600 Speaker 15: just don't know if it's important to help in our players. 1149 00:57:20,520 --> 00:57:22,600 Speaker 8: Mike, Welcome and congratulations. 1150 00:57:23,320 --> 00:57:26,120 Speaker 24: You were the hottest name on the coaching cycle this 1151 00:57:26,200 --> 00:57:29,360 Speaker 24: time around, presumably you had your pick of jobs. So 1152 00:57:29,520 --> 00:57:33,440 Speaker 24: personally professionally, what really separated this choice among the others. 1153 00:57:34,200 --> 00:57:38,520 Speaker 15: Well, I think that the ability to have open dialogue 1154 00:57:38,600 --> 00:57:41,920 Speaker 15: with Robert and Jonathan was something that was critical. 1155 00:57:43,320 --> 00:57:44,600 Speaker 8: Elliott and his staff. 1156 00:57:44,880 --> 00:57:50,000 Speaker 15: Obviously, what I believe and what everybody else believes is 1157 00:57:50,040 --> 00:57:54,760 Speaker 15: a as a young, dynamic quarterback. We have some youth 1158 00:57:54,800 --> 00:57:56,840 Speaker 15: on the roster, We have some veteran players that have 1159 00:57:57,360 --> 00:58:00,120 Speaker 15: kind of seen both sides of it and understand and 1160 00:58:00,480 --> 00:58:04,880 Speaker 15: that will help me and will help our players, you know, 1161 00:58:04,960 --> 00:58:07,800 Speaker 15: get back to that success and understand how hard it is. 1162 00:58:09,480 --> 00:58:12,160 Speaker 15: I do think that we're getting a different style of player, 1163 00:58:12,200 --> 00:58:15,840 Speaker 15: a different, you know, different player to the NFL, you know, 1164 00:58:15,960 --> 00:58:18,600 Speaker 15: one that you know, sometimes guys played four or five 1165 00:58:18,680 --> 00:58:21,080 Speaker 15: years in college in the same place under the same. 1166 00:58:20,880 --> 00:58:21,920 Speaker 8: Coach, and. 1167 00:58:23,360 --> 00:58:25,160 Speaker 15: We don't have a whole lot of behavior to change 1168 00:58:25,160 --> 00:58:26,720 Speaker 15: when they when they got to our league. And I 1169 00:58:26,720 --> 00:58:31,520 Speaker 15: think now with the NIL system that everyone is embracing 1170 00:58:31,560 --> 00:58:35,840 Speaker 15: and I'm all in favor of, but sometimes those players 1171 00:58:35,880 --> 00:58:37,800 Speaker 15: are at a school for six months and they may 1172 00:58:37,800 --> 00:58:41,440 Speaker 15: go to another school and with another leadership style and 1173 00:58:41,520 --> 00:58:44,400 Speaker 15: another structure, and so when they get to our league, 1174 00:58:44,400 --> 00:58:47,520 Speaker 15: there's some behavior that may have to change and we 1175 00:58:47,680 --> 00:58:49,280 Speaker 15: have to be willing to help. 1176 00:58:49,200 --> 00:58:49,880 Speaker 8: Them change it. 1177 00:58:50,640 --> 00:58:54,160 Speaker 15: And that's okay, Like, this is not an indictment on 1178 00:58:54,240 --> 00:58:58,000 Speaker 15: the college football system. This is just you know, you 1179 00:58:58,000 --> 00:59:00,720 Speaker 15: could go back and get a player from Malibyabama or 1180 00:59:00,960 --> 00:59:03,919 Speaker 15: Ohio State or Notreed eight where they had been there 1181 00:59:03,960 --> 00:59:06,840 Speaker 15: for four or five years, maybe they red shirted and 1182 00:59:06,880 --> 00:59:10,600 Speaker 15: there was a consistent program and you felt comfortable. 1183 00:59:10,080 --> 00:59:10,960 Speaker 8: Adding that player. 1184 00:59:11,640 --> 00:59:14,800 Speaker 15: Now, you know, like I say, car to keep traka 1185 00:59:15,160 --> 00:59:16,320 Speaker 15: of where they went to school. 1186 00:59:16,840 --> 00:59:19,200 Speaker 8: And so that's not easy. 1187 00:59:19,720 --> 00:59:22,240 Speaker 15: But what we're willing to do to help those players 1188 00:59:22,240 --> 00:59:24,680 Speaker 15: that need to have some of those things changed in 1189 00:59:24,720 --> 00:59:26,880 Speaker 15: the commitment to the team, Like we're willing to do that. 1190 00:59:29,960 --> 00:59:33,800 Speaker 18: Hey, Mike back middle here, Hey, welcome back, Thank you. 1191 00:59:33,880 --> 00:59:36,280 Speaker 18: Looking forward to all our future and news conferences together. 1192 00:59:37,360 --> 00:59:39,200 Speaker 8: There's going to be more, I think. 1193 00:59:39,240 --> 00:59:39,320 Speaker 9: So. 1194 00:59:39,440 --> 00:59:41,080 Speaker 3: I think the league makes you do a few of them. 1195 00:59:41,440 --> 00:59:44,760 Speaker 8: I hear they're fun too, Just curious. 1196 00:59:44,760 --> 00:59:47,000 Speaker 18: One thing you've learned in your first experience from being 1197 00:59:47,040 --> 00:59:48,240 Speaker 18: a head coach, so you want to make sure you 1198 00:59:48,280 --> 00:59:49,760 Speaker 18: apply to your second time around. 1199 00:59:51,840 --> 00:59:54,160 Speaker 8: Oh, I mean I think there's so much. I think just. 1200 00:59:56,560 --> 00:59:58,720 Speaker 15: This connection piece man getting to know these players, and 1201 00:59:58,760 --> 01:00:00,920 Speaker 15: we're going to put so many points contact around our 1202 01:00:00,960 --> 01:00:03,480 Speaker 15: players that I understand that I'm gonna have a different 1203 01:00:03,480 --> 01:00:06,120 Speaker 15: relationship with some players. 1204 01:00:07,360 --> 01:00:08,920 Speaker 8: Than I do others. Right, I'm gonna have it. 1205 01:00:08,960 --> 01:00:11,160 Speaker 15: I'm gonna have a relationship with every single one of them. 1206 01:00:11,520 --> 01:00:14,160 Speaker 15: But then there's gonna be other ones that may may 1207 01:00:14,160 --> 01:00:16,440 Speaker 15: not be as strong, but they're gonna be with the 1208 01:00:16,480 --> 01:00:17,240 Speaker 15: position coach. 1209 01:00:17,280 --> 01:00:19,000 Speaker 8: And you know, we're not gonna have a whole lot 1210 01:00:19,040 --> 01:00:19,440 Speaker 8: of rules. 1211 01:00:19,440 --> 01:00:22,040 Speaker 15: We're gonna start with with being on time and being 1212 01:00:22,080 --> 01:00:29,320 Speaker 15: respectful and being able to communicate like anybody else would 1213 01:00:29,320 --> 01:00:31,800 Speaker 15: out outside this building if you were late for an appointment, 1214 01:00:32,640 --> 01:00:33,760 Speaker 15: if you had something going on. 1215 01:00:33,840 --> 01:00:35,160 Speaker 8: That we're going to have people. 1216 01:00:35,000 --> 01:00:37,480 Speaker 15: That are around the players for them to be able 1217 01:00:37,560 --> 01:00:39,640 Speaker 15: to trust and say, hey, I've got this going on, 1218 01:00:40,240 --> 01:00:42,880 Speaker 15: and I've tried to do this in Tennessee that if 1219 01:00:42,920 --> 01:00:45,000 Speaker 15: somebody walks in the door at seven forty five and 1220 01:00:45,040 --> 01:00:48,080 Speaker 15: they just you know, there's there's something on their face 1221 01:00:48,120 --> 01:00:50,560 Speaker 15: that they're they're wearing, something they're holding onto something that 1222 01:00:50,680 --> 01:00:53,920 Speaker 15: something's not right. I would rather give that player thirty 1223 01:00:53,960 --> 01:00:56,320 Speaker 15: minutes or forty five minutes, whatever, however much amount of 1224 01:00:56,360 --> 01:00:58,400 Speaker 15: time that he needs to take care of a situation, 1225 01:00:59,280 --> 01:01:02,120 Speaker 15: then the seven hours that he's going to waste wearing 1226 01:01:02,200 --> 01:01:04,400 Speaker 15: it through the day. And I want to provide as 1227 01:01:04,400 --> 01:01:06,160 Speaker 15: many points of contact. 1228 01:01:06,080 --> 01:01:07,920 Speaker 8: With the players so that they feel comfortable. 1229 01:01:08,040 --> 01:01:10,400 Speaker 15: And if that's coming to me, great, If that's coming 1230 01:01:10,400 --> 01:01:12,600 Speaker 15: to Elliott, great, if that's coming to our strength coach, 1231 01:01:13,000 --> 01:01:16,280 Speaker 15: or that's coming to our position coach, whoever that may be. 1232 01:01:16,960 --> 01:01:19,520 Speaker 15: I want them to have as many relationships in the 1233 01:01:19,560 --> 01:01:23,440 Speaker 15: building that they feel comfortable saying that you know, something's 1234 01:01:23,440 --> 01:01:25,240 Speaker 15: not right, or I need to communicate, or I'm going 1235 01:01:25,280 --> 01:01:27,640 Speaker 15: to be fifteen minutes like whatever it is. So I 1236 01:01:27,680 --> 01:01:31,000 Speaker 15: think that that's critical that we teach them some of 1237 01:01:31,000 --> 01:01:34,040 Speaker 15: those things that you know, there's more people that they 1238 01:01:34,080 --> 01:01:36,400 Speaker 15: impact than just themselves. 1239 01:01:36,880 --> 01:01:39,320 Speaker 8: A lot of questions. 1240 01:01:38,120 --> 01:01:42,360 Speaker 25: You're bad, my congratulations, Thank you, you said at the 1241 01:01:42,400 --> 01:01:44,760 Speaker 25: beginning of the press conference, you knew in your soul 1242 01:01:44,880 --> 01:01:48,000 Speaker 25: this was the place to be. Did you ever envision 1243 01:01:48,080 --> 01:01:51,640 Speaker 25: yourself or dream about this moment here when you were 1244 01:01:51,640 --> 01:01:53,680 Speaker 25: a player or even when you came back for the 1245 01:01:53,680 --> 01:01:56,640 Speaker 25: Hall of Fame induction, Did you ever dream about standing 1246 01:01:56,720 --> 01:01:58,160 Speaker 25: up here as the head coach of the Patriots. 1247 01:02:00,440 --> 01:02:02,400 Speaker 15: Yeah, I mean I think you know, I mean, I think, 1248 01:02:03,800 --> 01:02:09,640 Speaker 15: you know, probably more so when I started my coaching career, Like, 1249 01:02:09,720 --> 01:02:14,280 Speaker 15: I think it was important for me to to go 1250 01:02:14,400 --> 01:02:18,880 Speaker 15: somewhere else to start another coaching journey. The opportunity at 1251 01:02:18,920 --> 01:02:23,160 Speaker 15: one point was probably presented itself to be here at coaching, 1252 01:02:23,800 --> 01:02:24,720 Speaker 15: but I felt like it. 1253 01:02:24,640 --> 01:02:26,800 Speaker 8: Was important to to forge my own. 1254 01:02:26,680 --> 01:02:31,760 Speaker 15: Path somewhere else and if all those experiences led me 1255 01:02:32,160 --> 01:02:35,240 Speaker 15: back here at the right time and the right opportunity, 1256 01:02:35,400 --> 01:02:37,080 Speaker 15: then that was going to be what was meant to be. 1257 01:02:37,520 --> 01:02:40,360 Speaker 15: And so But but not coaching, you know, I mean, 1258 01:02:40,400 --> 01:02:43,840 Speaker 15: not coaching the Tennessee Titans. That that was never something 1259 01:02:43,880 --> 01:02:47,720 Speaker 15: that you know, took my time. But I think that 1260 01:02:48,120 --> 01:02:51,240 Speaker 15: when I started my coaching career, I said, man, let's 1261 01:02:51,240 --> 01:02:53,040 Speaker 15: go and let's see where we can go and take 1262 01:02:53,080 --> 01:02:55,920 Speaker 15: this and work with other people, and you know, if 1263 01:02:55,920 --> 01:02:57,880 Speaker 15: the time's right to go back, then then it'll be. 1264 01:02:57,960 --> 01:03:02,960 Speaker 8: Then there'll be right time. Might congratulations. 1265 01:03:03,400 --> 01:03:06,280 Speaker 6: How would you describe what type of offense you want 1266 01:03:06,280 --> 01:03:08,240 Speaker 6: to run and how does that tie to the traits 1267 01:03:08,320 --> 01:03:10,120 Speaker 6: that you'll be looking for in a play caller? 1268 01:03:10,240 --> 01:03:13,160 Speaker 15: Yeah, I think that the offense again, we mentioned things 1269 01:03:13,240 --> 01:03:15,760 Speaker 15: like aggressive but not reckless, right, We have to be 1270 01:03:15,760 --> 01:03:18,160 Speaker 15: able to take chances. How do we create X plays 1271 01:03:18,680 --> 01:03:21,000 Speaker 15: without just you know, having to throw the ball down 1272 01:03:21,040 --> 01:03:24,120 Speaker 15: the field fifty yards and just sit there taking shots. 1273 01:03:24,200 --> 01:03:25,920 Speaker 8: Right? The creativity. 1274 01:03:27,000 --> 01:03:29,200 Speaker 15: You know we want we want to be I would 1275 01:03:29,200 --> 01:03:33,280 Speaker 15: say versatile enough if the players can handle it, right, 1276 01:03:33,320 --> 01:03:36,120 Speaker 15: I want to you know, you look at zone scheme 1277 01:03:36,880 --> 01:03:38,960 Speaker 15: in the run game, being able to run, you know, 1278 01:03:39,080 --> 01:03:43,560 Speaker 15: gap scheme to things that the defense may do, you know, 1279 01:03:43,760 --> 01:03:47,040 Speaker 15: be under center, being being the gun. You know whether 1280 01:03:47,160 --> 01:03:50,680 Speaker 15: it's but it's also important to understand. You know, everybody 1281 01:03:50,720 --> 01:03:53,920 Speaker 15: has access to this, and everybody has some experience with 1282 01:03:54,000 --> 01:03:56,440 Speaker 15: different types of offense, but it's what the players can 1283 01:03:56,440 --> 01:03:59,160 Speaker 15: get good at. How much can you reasonably do You 1284 01:03:59,200 --> 01:04:01,080 Speaker 15: don't want to dab things and say we're going to 1285 01:04:01,160 --> 01:04:05,480 Speaker 15: dabble in RPOs when the quarterback you know that's not 1286 01:04:05,560 --> 01:04:07,560 Speaker 15: a strength it is. And then being able to read 1287 01:04:08,320 --> 01:04:10,520 Speaker 15: and pull the ball and throw it. I mean, there's 1288 01:04:10,560 --> 01:04:12,360 Speaker 15: so much nickel pressure, right, how do you want to 1289 01:04:12,720 --> 01:04:13,760 Speaker 15: handle nickel pressure? 1290 01:04:14,000 --> 01:04:14,200 Speaker 4: Right? 1291 01:04:14,960 --> 01:04:18,000 Speaker 15: All these answers and different things that defenses are doing, 1292 01:04:18,400 --> 01:04:23,439 Speaker 15: more split safety defenses, more simulated pressures, more disguised cover 1293 01:04:23,520 --> 01:04:26,880 Speaker 15: two right, and then you know, being able to go 1294 01:04:26,920 --> 01:04:29,720 Speaker 15: on the ball and try to be able to use 1295 01:04:29,760 --> 01:04:32,280 Speaker 15: an offense that goes on the ball at times and 1296 01:04:32,400 --> 01:04:37,560 Speaker 15: dictate tempo cadence. But again, it'll be based on what 1297 01:04:37,600 --> 01:04:40,440 Speaker 15: the players can understand and what they can handle, and 1298 01:04:40,520 --> 01:04:43,560 Speaker 15: we're not going to you know, put things that make 1299 01:04:43,640 --> 01:04:47,280 Speaker 15: them slow right that somebody told me a long time ago, 1300 01:04:47,320 --> 01:04:50,240 Speaker 15: you can't tell a difference between a player that's afraid 1301 01:04:50,280 --> 01:04:52,440 Speaker 15: to do it or doesn't know how to do it right, 1302 01:04:52,480 --> 01:04:54,760 Speaker 15: And so they kind of just stand there with that look. 1303 01:04:54,760 --> 01:04:57,480 Speaker 8: And we're not going to stand you know, We're going 1304 01:04:57,560 --> 01:04:58,000 Speaker 8: to be moving. 1305 01:04:58,040 --> 01:05:01,320 Speaker 15: We're going to demand effort and finish. Like people ask 1306 01:05:01,400 --> 01:05:04,280 Speaker 15: what non negotiables are, work with our effort in our 1307 01:05:04,320 --> 01:05:06,240 Speaker 15: finish is going to be the contract that we make 1308 01:05:06,320 --> 01:05:10,360 Speaker 15: with with our teammates, and that'll be something that that'll be. 1309 01:05:10,360 --> 01:05:12,360 Speaker 8: My job to make sure. 1310 01:05:12,680 --> 01:05:15,640 Speaker 15: That's the greatest compliment that you could ever give a coach, 1311 01:05:15,680 --> 01:05:17,880 Speaker 15: by the way, not that he has great plays or 1312 01:05:17,960 --> 01:05:21,160 Speaker 15: great blitz. It's, man, you guys, your players play their 1313 01:05:21,160 --> 01:05:24,440 Speaker 15: ass off, and trust me, when somebody that's a respected 1314 01:05:24,480 --> 01:05:28,440 Speaker 15: coach tells you that, you'll you'll you'll thank the players 1315 01:05:28,440 --> 01:05:30,600 Speaker 15: and you'll you'll care about them and you'll do whatever 1316 01:05:30,640 --> 01:05:33,320 Speaker 15: you can for him, because that's the greatest compliment that 1317 01:05:33,360 --> 01:05:34,080 Speaker 15: you could ever get. 1318 01:05:35,000 --> 01:05:53,000 Speaker 8: So time to get to work in good stays. Thank you. 1319 01:05:58,920 --> 01:06:03,280 Speaker 2: This is paid It's Unfiltered, presented by Toyota's official website. 1320 01:06:03,280 --> 01:06:08,120 Speaker 2: For deals, buy a Toyota dot com. 1321 01:06:08,480 --> 01:06:11,600 Speaker 4: All right, well we are back right from the Mike 1322 01:06:11,720 --> 01:06:14,880 Speaker 4: Rabel press conference. We hustled down Paul and I from 1323 01:06:14,880 --> 01:06:16,840 Speaker 4: the Sports Illustrated Pavilion. 1324 01:06:16,480 --> 01:06:18,400 Speaker 5: Made me run to the press cor my niece. 1325 01:06:19,520 --> 01:06:21,720 Speaker 4: I thought we left early enough. We get up to 1326 01:06:21,760 --> 01:06:25,120 Speaker 4: the concourse and then there's this caravan of golf cars. 1327 01:06:25,120 --> 01:06:28,640 Speaker 4: I'm like, oh no, they're They're already on their way. So, yeah, 1328 01:06:28,680 --> 01:06:29,560 Speaker 4: we were good. 1329 01:06:29,560 --> 01:06:32,280 Speaker 5: We got there at the beginning. Yeah, we timed it perfectly. 1330 01:06:32,280 --> 01:06:34,680 Speaker 4: We cut it all my self. Abel give us a 1331 01:06:34,680 --> 01:06:40,600 Speaker 4: look as we walked down the stairs, though he was 1332 01:06:41,560 --> 01:06:42,120 Speaker 4: who's late. 1333 01:06:42,240 --> 01:06:44,240 Speaker 10: I'll take who's late. 1334 01:06:44,360 --> 01:06:45,960 Speaker 3: I'll take your word for it based on what he said. 1335 01:06:45,960 --> 01:06:47,440 Speaker 3: If we had a good excuse, he probably. 1336 01:06:47,160 --> 01:06:47,720 Speaker 8: Would have given us. 1337 01:06:47,880 --> 01:06:50,040 Speaker 5: Yes, well, he saw the look on the face. He 1338 01:06:50,080 --> 01:06:51,200 Speaker 5: needs a little time there. 1339 01:06:51,240 --> 01:06:53,120 Speaker 4: He is on ninety eight point five right now. But 1340 01:06:54,480 --> 01:06:57,080 Speaker 4: so opening thoughts. I know we're going to get into 1341 01:06:57,120 --> 01:06:59,920 Speaker 4: what our listeners have to say and hear what there react. 1342 01:07:00,240 --> 01:07:02,360 Speaker 4: But initial reaction just I. 1343 01:07:02,280 --> 01:07:04,760 Speaker 6: Think he's an experienced coach. It looked like, you know, 1344 01:07:04,800 --> 01:07:06,560 Speaker 6: he was in control, he knew, you know, what was 1345 01:07:06,600 --> 01:07:09,440 Speaker 6: going to be asked and yeah, I mean, you know, 1346 01:07:09,440 --> 01:07:11,680 Speaker 6: a little coach speak. I think that's to be expected, 1347 01:07:11,800 --> 01:07:13,920 Speaker 6: you know what we're going to do. But you know, 1348 01:07:13,960 --> 01:07:15,280 Speaker 6: I think if you boil it down, a lot of 1349 01:07:15,320 --> 01:07:18,080 Speaker 6: the same messages of getting to know the players, empowering 1350 01:07:18,080 --> 01:07:20,880 Speaker 6: the players. But it just seems like an experienced guy 1351 01:07:20,920 --> 01:07:22,520 Speaker 6: who knows what the deal is and knows how to 1352 01:07:22,520 --> 01:07:23,040 Speaker 6: go about it. 1353 01:07:23,120 --> 01:07:26,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, comfortable. I thought he was comfortable in the environment, 1354 01:07:26,520 --> 01:07:29,440 Speaker 5: which is to be expected a guy with with some experience. 1355 01:07:29,640 --> 01:07:31,320 Speaker 5: Thought it was a little low key, that was a 1356 01:07:31,360 --> 01:07:33,760 Speaker 5: little sort of understated. 1357 01:07:33,720 --> 01:07:34,880 Speaker 4: Compared to the last one. 1358 01:07:35,000 --> 01:07:35,200 Speaker 8: Yeah. 1359 01:07:35,280 --> 01:07:37,200 Speaker 5: Now, I would say Mike and I were talking as 1360 01:07:37,200 --> 01:07:39,720 Speaker 5: we were walking back over and I would say, you know, 1361 01:07:40,440 --> 01:07:42,480 Speaker 5: I'll take this over last year there were a lot 1362 01:07:42,520 --> 01:07:44,440 Speaker 5: of things that we were all immediately looking at each 1363 01:07:44,440 --> 01:07:46,360 Speaker 5: other like why do we say this, so, why do 1364 01:07:46,480 --> 01:07:46,920 Speaker 5: we do that? 1365 01:07:46,960 --> 01:07:48,280 Speaker 10: Why are we talking about silos? 1366 01:07:48,560 --> 01:07:51,800 Speaker 5: Well, you know what, I'll take this sort of button 1367 01:07:51,880 --> 01:07:55,720 Speaker 5: down like football approach back to me days. I mean, 1368 01:07:55,920 --> 01:07:59,439 Speaker 5: like I would say, Patriots Man's like boring is good, 1369 01:08:00,080 --> 01:08:02,480 Speaker 5: all is good, Like we're getting to work. We have 1370 01:08:02,520 --> 01:08:04,520 Speaker 5: a lot of work to do, right, And I thought 1371 01:08:04,560 --> 01:08:05,600 Speaker 5: Mike sort of conveyed that. 1372 01:08:05,680 --> 01:08:05,880 Speaker 8: Yeah. 1373 01:08:05,880 --> 01:08:07,920 Speaker 6: I think in retrospect, last year felt a little bit 1374 01:08:07,960 --> 01:08:09,840 Speaker 6: like ding dong the Witch is dead and. 1375 01:08:09,720 --> 01:08:12,240 Speaker 3: A little bit of celebration that were too much away 1376 01:08:12,240 --> 01:08:14,080 Speaker 3: from Bill now, you know, and this just this felt 1377 01:08:14,120 --> 01:08:16,400 Speaker 3: back to business for me. You know, a couple of 1378 01:08:16,439 --> 01:08:17,040 Speaker 3: things that stood out. 1379 01:08:17,040 --> 01:08:19,439 Speaker 6: I thought he you know, stressed the importance of offensive 1380 01:08:19,439 --> 01:08:22,080 Speaker 6: line protection, liked him mentioned in the past game. I'm 1381 01:08:22,080 --> 01:08:24,880 Speaker 6: sure Evan Evan Evan like at that particular moment. But 1382 01:08:25,360 --> 01:08:27,120 Speaker 6: you know, I just think philosophically, he said some of 1383 01:08:27,160 --> 01:08:27,639 Speaker 6: the right things. 1384 01:08:27,680 --> 01:08:27,800 Speaker 10: Think. 1385 01:08:27,840 --> 01:08:29,479 Speaker 5: He said something like you have to be dynamic in 1386 01:08:29,520 --> 01:08:33,080 Speaker 5: the passing game. And he also called his young efficient 1387 01:08:33,120 --> 01:08:35,200 Speaker 5: in the passing game. He called his quarterback a young 1388 01:08:35,280 --> 01:08:38,040 Speaker 5: dynamic quarterback. Yeah, that was the dynamic part. 1389 01:08:38,240 --> 01:08:38,439 Speaker 8: Yeah. 1390 01:08:38,800 --> 01:08:39,040 Speaker 4: Good. 1391 01:08:39,680 --> 01:08:42,680 Speaker 5: One of the one of the things that you know, 1392 01:08:42,760 --> 01:08:45,200 Speaker 5: excited him about the job, that led him, you know, 1393 01:08:45,240 --> 01:08:48,120 Speaker 5: why why he wanted this job, And it was one 1394 01:08:48,120 --> 01:08:48,960 Speaker 5: of the things he mentioned. 1395 01:08:49,000 --> 01:08:52,360 Speaker 4: And it sounds like he's had, you know, pretty extensive 1396 01:08:52,400 --> 01:08:54,679 Speaker 4: conversations at least over the weekend with Elliott. 1397 01:08:54,760 --> 01:08:57,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, directly. I mean I think that's you know, 1398 01:08:57,280 --> 01:08:59,400 Speaker 3: one point. It sounds like a lot of things are 1399 01:08:59,400 --> 01:09:01,400 Speaker 3: still in motion with this right now. It seems like, 1400 01:09:01,720 --> 01:09:03,920 Speaker 3: you know, even s what I was most surprised. Smattering 1401 01:09:04,000 --> 01:09:06,880 Speaker 3: of coaches were there, so we did see some of 1402 01:09:06,880 --> 01:09:07,320 Speaker 3: those people. 1403 01:09:07,320 --> 01:09:11,760 Speaker 6: There are a couple of players we saw, Joe Cardona. 1404 01:09:10,600 --> 01:09:12,160 Speaker 3: David Andrews. Yeah, that was another one I thought I 1405 01:09:12,200 --> 01:09:14,639 Speaker 3: saw him. So it seems like they're still figuring it out. 1406 01:09:14,640 --> 01:09:16,479 Speaker 6: But it does sound like he's already been in contact 1407 01:09:16,479 --> 01:09:19,040 Speaker 6: with Elliott and that, you know, all signs are pointing 1408 01:09:19,040 --> 01:09:19,240 Speaker 6: to that. 1409 01:09:19,960 --> 01:09:21,680 Speaker 5: He talked to a lot of players, he said already to, 1410 01:09:21,800 --> 01:09:24,360 Speaker 5: including Drake May when he was asked specifically about that. 1411 01:09:24,760 --> 01:09:26,719 Speaker 5: The one thing I would say that I really got 1412 01:09:26,960 --> 01:09:31,280 Speaker 5: entirely wrong is I mentioned in our pre show before 1413 01:09:31,320 --> 01:09:33,960 Speaker 5: the press conference, I thought we'd have a lot of 1414 01:09:34,000 --> 01:09:36,960 Speaker 5: answers to some of these questions. We didn't get any 1415 01:09:36,960 --> 01:09:39,439 Speaker 5: answers to any of those questions. And I don't think 1416 01:09:39,800 --> 01:09:42,400 Speaker 5: Mike was being coy. I think there are still a 1417 01:09:42,439 --> 01:09:43,599 Speaker 5: lot of things to be decided. 1418 01:09:43,760 --> 01:09:47,360 Speaker 4: Even the Cowen question, he said, nothing's been settled. 1419 01:09:47,400 --> 01:09:49,000 Speaker 5: Yeah. The only thing I would take from it is 1420 01:09:49,040 --> 01:09:51,960 Speaker 5: what Mike said about his He had several references to 1421 01:09:52,040 --> 01:09:54,760 Speaker 5: conversations with Elliott. My guess is Elliott's going to be 1422 01:09:55,320 --> 01:09:59,439 Speaker 5: part of this at least in the short term. But 1423 01:09:59,600 --> 01:10:03,840 Speaker 5: we had no real direction offensive or defensive coordinator, and 1424 01:10:04,120 --> 01:10:07,400 Speaker 5: no resolution is in terms of Brian Cowden. 1425 01:10:07,720 --> 01:10:12,080 Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, so yep. But like Paul said, and you know, 1426 01:10:12,160 --> 01:10:14,799 Speaker 4: I'm assuming if you're watching this, you watch the press conference. 1427 01:10:15,080 --> 01:10:17,479 Speaker 4: It was low key compared to last year. Last year 1428 01:10:17,560 --> 01:10:20,720 Speaker 4: was a lot more fanfare, a lot more fun. You know, 1429 01:10:20,840 --> 01:10:23,559 Speaker 4: this is all right, we got work to do. I'm 1430 01:10:23,560 --> 01:10:27,040 Speaker 4: here to I was here to do a job, and 1431 01:10:27,120 --> 01:10:29,960 Speaker 4: I've got a big one ahead of me, so let's 1432 01:10:30,000 --> 01:10:30,599 Speaker 4: get to work. 1433 01:10:30,840 --> 01:10:32,880 Speaker 6: I think you just realized too how unique this day is. 1434 01:10:32,920 --> 01:10:35,240 Speaker 6: And this isn't really a day about football. This is 1435 01:10:35,320 --> 01:10:38,360 Speaker 6: kind of a pomp and circumstance kind of let's introduce him. 1436 01:10:38,720 --> 01:10:40,880 Speaker 6: You know, maybe we would have liked to get in 1437 01:10:40,920 --> 01:10:43,559 Speaker 6: some more answers than we got, but generally this is 1438 01:10:43,640 --> 01:10:45,519 Speaker 6: just you know, this is such a unique part of 1439 01:10:45,520 --> 01:10:47,439 Speaker 6: the year when it's like, all right, let's get to 1440 01:10:47,479 --> 01:10:49,360 Speaker 6: work down to business. Then we're gonna get into press 1441 01:10:49,360 --> 01:10:51,680 Speaker 6: conferences and you know that's when it really starts to 1442 01:10:51,760 --> 01:10:53,360 Speaker 6: you know, you start to really understand him. But I 1443 01:10:53,439 --> 01:10:55,720 Speaker 6: just impressed as always, you know, you know, the guy 1444 01:10:55,760 --> 01:10:58,439 Speaker 6: who's experienced, thought it was good about talking about Cleveland, 1445 01:10:58,439 --> 01:11:00,360 Speaker 6: which you know, I think the inference we were talking 1446 01:11:00,360 --> 01:11:01,960 Speaker 6: about that was like, well, Mike knew he didn't no 1447 01:11:02,040 --> 01:11:04,719 Speaker 6: offense and needed to go there, and from his sounding, 1448 01:11:04,760 --> 01:11:07,280 Speaker 6: it sounded more like Kevin Stefanski kind of thought putting 1449 01:11:07,280 --> 01:11:09,120 Speaker 6: a defensive coach on the offensive side of the ball 1450 01:11:09,160 --> 01:11:10,120 Speaker 6: for a different perspective. 1451 01:11:10,200 --> 01:11:12,200 Speaker 3: So I agree that was that was a good little, 1452 01:11:12,240 --> 01:11:12,880 Speaker 3: a little good little. 1453 01:11:12,920 --> 01:11:16,160 Speaker 5: As a total aside, do you feel like Kevin Stefanski 1454 01:11:16,240 --> 01:11:19,640 Speaker 5: is held in much higher regard within his peers and 1455 01:11:19,680 --> 01:11:21,880 Speaker 5: around the league than he is probably in the fans 1456 01:11:22,200 --> 01:11:23,120 Speaker 5: by fans. 1457 01:11:23,000 --> 01:11:23,840 Speaker 4: Probably, yeah. 1458 01:11:23,920 --> 01:11:24,120 Speaker 8: Yeah. 1459 01:11:24,280 --> 01:11:26,080 Speaker 5: I think a lot of people think very highly of 1460 01:11:26,160 --> 01:11:27,000 Speaker 5: Kevin Stefanski. 1461 01:11:27,080 --> 01:11:29,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, and I think they know the situation that he's 1462 01:11:29,960 --> 01:11:32,280 Speaker 4: been thrust into. He didn't sign that. 1463 01:11:32,280 --> 01:11:36,479 Speaker 5: Quarterback anyway, uh, you know. And more aside breaking news, 1464 01:11:36,520 --> 01:11:39,120 Speaker 5: I guess it looks like the Cowboys and Mike McCarthy 1465 01:11:39,120 --> 01:11:40,000 Speaker 5: are going to part ways. 1466 01:11:40,240 --> 01:11:40,960 Speaker 8: Oh, I did. 1467 01:11:41,040 --> 01:11:44,639 Speaker 5: He will not be he will not be signing an extension. 1468 01:11:45,080 --> 01:11:47,200 Speaker 5: I think Schefter had it. 1469 01:11:47,360 --> 01:11:50,639 Speaker 4: Well, you know, Florio had a story today. I don't 1470 01:11:50,640 --> 01:11:53,559 Speaker 4: know if you saw it. I did not about one 1471 01:11:53,600 --> 01:11:57,280 Speaker 4: Bill Belichick and how people at U and C are 1472 01:11:57,320 --> 01:11:59,760 Speaker 4: starting to get a little nervous because. 1473 01:11:59,479 --> 01:12:03,360 Speaker 5: He hasn't feel out his staff. Bill Belichick to Dallas. 1474 01:12:03,520 --> 01:12:06,240 Speaker 3: This is the staff, Well, this is it these six guys. 1475 01:12:06,240 --> 01:12:08,639 Speaker 4: I did think it was a little interesting. Somebody brought 1476 01:12:08,680 --> 01:12:11,519 Speaker 4: up Bill Belichick at the press conference. You know, I 1477 01:12:11,800 --> 01:12:13,920 Speaker 4: forget exactly what what did you learn or what did 1478 01:12:13,960 --> 01:12:17,479 Speaker 4: you take from him? And and while Vrabel you know, 1479 01:12:17,560 --> 01:12:21,720 Speaker 4: didn't completely dismiss it, he turned the focus of the 1480 01:12:21,800 --> 01:12:25,519 Speaker 4: answer more to let's let's look ahead. You know, he said, 1481 01:12:25,520 --> 01:12:28,599 Speaker 4: it's it's not important to the players that I played 1482 01:12:28,600 --> 01:12:32,360 Speaker 4: for Bill Belichick might be interesting, but it's not important. 1483 01:12:32,920 --> 01:12:33,200 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1484 01:12:33,320 --> 01:12:35,840 Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean I thought Tiptoe, I think he was 1485 01:12:35,920 --> 01:12:38,120 Speaker 6: just he was measured with the way he responded to that, 1486 01:12:38,240 --> 01:12:40,320 Speaker 6: and rightly so. I mean, I think there is still 1487 01:12:40,320 --> 01:12:42,519 Speaker 6: an element too of respect for Gerrod and you know, 1488 01:12:42,680 --> 01:12:45,760 Speaker 6: just it's also fresh still that I think going into 1489 01:12:45,800 --> 01:12:47,800 Speaker 6: this whole thing praising Bill would have just I felt 1490 01:12:47,800 --> 01:12:49,040 Speaker 6: that would have been a little tone deaf. So I 1491 01:12:49,240 --> 01:12:51,800 Speaker 6: thought he handled that, you know, pretty well. But you know, 1492 01:12:51,800 --> 01:12:53,880 Speaker 6: it's just it's hard. The guy's greatest coach of all time, 1493 01:12:53,920 --> 01:12:56,880 Speaker 6: and yeah, he's prickly and people have complicated relationships with him. 1494 01:12:56,920 --> 01:13:00,479 Speaker 6: But I think everybody knows that what Bill Belichick taught Mike, 1495 01:13:00,560 --> 01:13:01,559 Speaker 6: anyone who'll coach. 1496 01:13:01,520 --> 01:13:03,920 Speaker 4: Under him, anyone who played under him, took something from him. 1497 01:13:04,160 --> 01:13:07,280 Speaker 4: There's no doubt about that. But Rabel, you know, he's 1498 01:13:07,320 --> 01:13:08,080 Speaker 4: his own man. 1499 01:13:08,560 --> 01:13:08,800 Speaker 8: Uh. 1500 01:13:09,200 --> 01:13:11,840 Speaker 4: He wants make sure everyone knows that, you know, he's 1501 01:13:11,880 --> 01:13:14,200 Speaker 4: his own guy. And yeah, he talked about his team 1502 01:13:14,240 --> 01:13:16,000 Speaker 4: and he says, I want my players to be their 1503 01:13:16,040 --> 01:13:18,120 Speaker 4: own I don't want them all to be like me, 1504 01:13:18,800 --> 01:13:21,559 Speaker 4: you know. I want them to all have their own things. 1505 01:13:21,600 --> 01:13:24,720 Speaker 4: And you know, they will have all stuff going on 1506 01:13:25,040 --> 01:13:28,519 Speaker 4: off the field that if I know about those things 1507 01:13:28,520 --> 01:13:31,559 Speaker 4: and I take an interest in those things, will build 1508 01:13:31,600 --> 01:13:35,280 Speaker 4: that sort of accountability and trust amongst each other. And 1509 01:13:35,479 --> 01:13:37,960 Speaker 4: we heard that from other people before he got here. 1510 01:13:38,240 --> 01:13:42,000 Speaker 4: I think Taylor that video that you were talking about, 1511 01:13:42,720 --> 01:13:45,160 Speaker 4: you know, he mentioned that like he'll he'll he'll work 1512 01:13:45,200 --> 01:13:48,080 Speaker 4: with you if you have something going on outside the game. 1513 01:13:48,600 --> 01:13:50,960 Speaker 4: He'll work with you as long as you communicate well. 1514 01:13:51,000 --> 01:13:53,479 Speaker 5: And the other thing that always stood out to me, 1515 01:13:53,640 --> 01:13:55,800 Speaker 5: and I know that sometimes when we see these things 1516 01:13:55,800 --> 01:13:58,080 Speaker 5: and these viral clips, there's a reason we see them, 1517 01:13:58,080 --> 01:14:01,880 Speaker 5: But that shot after the game where the center was 1518 01:14:01,960 --> 01:14:05,840 Speaker 5: Ben Jones and Jones who clearly played through something a 1519 01:14:05,840 --> 01:14:08,720 Speaker 5: little bit above and beyond what normal guys would play 1520 01:14:08,760 --> 01:14:11,920 Speaker 5: normal bumps and bruises, and that reaction that Rabel had 1521 01:14:11,960 --> 01:14:14,800 Speaker 5: to him after that game, I think that's the kind 1522 01:14:14,840 --> 01:14:17,439 Speaker 5: of connection he tries to establish with his players. 1523 01:14:17,720 --> 01:14:18,400 Speaker 3: Super emotional. 1524 01:14:18,400 --> 01:14:20,280 Speaker 6: I mean that you could feel it from from Rabel 1525 01:14:20,360 --> 01:14:22,840 Speaker 6: like that, and I think him talking today, you can 1526 01:14:23,080 --> 01:14:25,720 Speaker 6: kind of feel it's based on experience of working with 1527 01:14:25,800 --> 01:14:28,519 Speaker 6: guys and working with players and knowing the complicated bits 1528 01:14:29,040 --> 01:14:31,799 Speaker 6: that can come back. I think last year's press conference 1529 01:14:31,800 --> 01:14:34,320 Speaker 6: felt a little bit more in theory and you know 1530 01:14:34,360 --> 01:14:36,600 Speaker 6: how how I'd like to do it, but you just 1531 01:14:36,720 --> 01:14:39,040 Speaker 6: feel I felt Rabel's experience kind of shine through a 1532 01:14:39,080 --> 01:14:41,240 Speaker 6: lot of his answers, and you know, he just doesn't 1533 01:14:41,840 --> 01:14:43,599 Speaker 6: tell he doesn't feel pressure from the questions. 1534 01:14:43,600 --> 01:14:44,360 Speaker 3: He's used to it. 1535 01:14:44,400 --> 01:14:46,200 Speaker 6: I mean, I loved how he called Karen out and 1536 01:14:46,240 --> 01:14:48,120 Speaker 6: you know, gave her a little a little compliment. 1537 01:14:48,120 --> 01:14:50,840 Speaker 4: Everybody should have been the first one. 1538 01:14:51,000 --> 01:14:51,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, she should. 1539 01:14:52,000 --> 01:14:54,599 Speaker 4: She's been on this beat, I think longer than almost 1540 01:14:54,680 --> 01:14:57,200 Speaker 4: anyone right now. All the lot of the old people 1541 01:14:57,280 --> 01:15:00,519 Speaker 4: are gone, we don't count. Karen's been on this beat 1542 01:15:00,560 --> 01:15:01,160 Speaker 4: longer than us. 1543 01:15:01,479 --> 01:15:03,040 Speaker 5: She was bruined when I started here. 1544 01:15:03,560 --> 01:15:06,120 Speaker 4: Well, she's been working in the definitely. 1545 01:15:06,200 --> 01:15:09,240 Speaker 5: Yeah, she's had a like just and I know I 1546 01:15:09,320 --> 01:15:11,640 Speaker 5: say this all the time, a storied career. Yeah, she 1547 01:15:11,760 --> 01:15:14,680 Speaker 5: is the best reporter in that room. I say this 1548 01:15:14,760 --> 01:15:17,760 Speaker 5: to her. She gets mad at me. She's embarrassed, but 1549 01:15:17,880 --> 01:15:20,759 Speaker 5: she is she isn't just in the ultimate professional. 1550 01:15:20,960 --> 01:15:23,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I think she's been covering sports for 1551 01:15:23,680 --> 01:15:26,960 Speaker 4: a long time, probably longer than most people in that room. 1552 01:15:27,080 --> 01:15:27,720 Speaker 5: I would say, so. 1553 01:15:28,000 --> 01:15:30,880 Speaker 6: Yeah, so many old Patriots has so much respect for her, 1554 01:15:30,920 --> 01:15:33,160 Speaker 6: Like I've in fears and I mean you just you 1555 01:15:33,200 --> 01:15:35,559 Speaker 6: see how all the players, coaches, they love her. 1556 01:15:35,760 --> 01:15:38,679 Speaker 5: Well. She has a great way about her. She goes 1557 01:15:38,680 --> 01:15:40,679 Speaker 5: about her business in such a you know, and she's 1558 01:15:40,680 --> 01:15:43,599 Speaker 5: not afraid to ask tough questions. It's not about sort 1559 01:15:43,600 --> 01:15:46,840 Speaker 5: of being right positive all the time. It's being professional 1560 01:15:46,840 --> 01:15:48,120 Speaker 5: all the time. It's a difference she. 1561 01:15:48,120 --> 01:15:50,559 Speaker 6: Seems to have a genuine curiosity, like that's you know 1562 01:15:50,640 --> 01:15:52,960 Speaker 6: to me. You can tell some people are reading the 1563 01:15:53,000 --> 01:15:54,600 Speaker 6: tea leaves or what the story of the day is. 1564 01:15:54,640 --> 01:15:56,240 Speaker 6: And with Karen, I always feel like she's kind of 1565 01:15:56,240 --> 01:15:58,320 Speaker 6: doing her own thing and asking good questions. But it's 1566 01:15:58,320 --> 01:16:00,519 Speaker 6: not because she's fallowing the wind of what everybody else 1567 01:16:00,560 --> 01:16:03,120 Speaker 6: is saying. It's it's what her perspective on the team is. 1568 01:16:04,160 --> 01:16:06,080 Speaker 4: So now my thing is I got to get very 1569 01:16:06,080 --> 01:16:08,439 Speaker 4: able to be the keynote or at the coaches clinic 1570 01:16:08,479 --> 01:16:08,880 Speaker 4: in March. 1571 01:16:09,320 --> 01:16:11,840 Speaker 5: I get my nephew there. Huh yeah, all signed up. 1572 01:16:11,920 --> 01:16:16,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, Tyler Perolo from Endicott coming over, signed up. 1573 01:16:17,240 --> 01:16:19,559 Speaker 5: He's going to the coach Well he's yeah, he's the 1574 01:16:19,680 --> 01:16:20,360 Speaker 5: tight Ends coach. 1575 01:16:20,520 --> 01:16:23,160 Speaker 6: He got the po school of time management all squared away. 1576 01:16:23,200 --> 01:16:25,040 Speaker 6: He knows how to use his timeouts and everything. 1577 01:16:25,920 --> 01:16:27,720 Speaker 5: It's an area that the head coach struggles in. 1578 01:16:27,840 --> 01:16:30,960 Speaker 4: Just let you know, okay, just to let you know. 1579 01:16:31,120 --> 01:16:32,599 Speaker 4: Paul's made that known to Tyler. 1580 01:16:32,680 --> 01:16:34,000 Speaker 5: I got a little bit of a I got a 1581 01:16:34,000 --> 01:16:35,040 Speaker 5: little bit of a problem. 1582 01:16:36,880 --> 01:16:40,360 Speaker 4: It was a packed room. All the seats were taken standing, 1583 01:16:40,400 --> 01:16:43,360 Speaker 4: Ramona behind and most of this staff, the current staff 1584 01:16:43,400 --> 01:16:48,479 Speaker 4: were standing up behind the seats. I think everybody was 1585 01:16:48,479 --> 01:16:50,640 Speaker 4: there as far as the support crew. You know, I 1586 01:16:50,640 --> 01:16:52,680 Speaker 4: don't know about assistant coaches. 1587 01:16:52,280 --> 01:16:56,599 Speaker 5: But we saw we saw Mike pellgre Tyler Hughes. You 1588 01:16:56,640 --> 01:17:01,360 Speaker 5: saw the assistant offensive line coach, Robert Coogler there you go, 1589 01:17:01,439 --> 01:17:02,080 Speaker 5: Yeah him too. 1590 01:17:03,120 --> 01:17:03,960 Speaker 4: Elliott was there. 1591 01:17:04,200 --> 01:17:07,680 Speaker 5: Elliott, I saw Mac grow saw a couple of other 1592 01:17:07,720 --> 01:17:09,080 Speaker 5: people in the personnel department. 1593 01:17:09,160 --> 01:17:10,599 Speaker 4: Saw Smitty Smitty. 1594 01:17:11,960 --> 01:17:13,439 Speaker 5: Cam Williams saw there. 1595 01:17:13,800 --> 01:17:15,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, Patrick Stewart was there. 1596 01:17:16,160 --> 01:17:16,479 Speaker 3: Was there? 1597 01:17:16,600 --> 01:17:20,160 Speaker 5: Yeah, So yeah, I think there was a pretty good mix. 1598 01:17:20,320 --> 01:17:22,320 Speaker 5: I didn't. I don't think there were as many unless 1599 01:17:22,280 --> 01:17:25,240 Speaker 5: I mean just certainly possible. A lot of people were 1600 01:17:25,280 --> 01:17:28,800 Speaker 5: sitting down and we were behind like the cameras. I 1601 01:17:28,840 --> 01:17:30,240 Speaker 5: didn't see a ton of players. 1602 01:17:30,600 --> 01:17:30,720 Speaker 4: Now. 1603 01:17:31,160 --> 01:17:33,000 Speaker 5: Last year it seemed like there were more players around. 1604 01:17:33,040 --> 01:17:34,720 Speaker 5: But there were a couple of guys that I didn't know. 1605 01:17:34,760 --> 01:17:37,800 Speaker 5: I didn't recognize that I and frankly, they could be 1606 01:17:38,200 --> 01:17:39,880 Speaker 5: players now, and I'm not in the locker room all 1607 01:17:39,880 --> 01:17:41,320 Speaker 5: the time, so I wasn't sure they might be. 1608 01:17:41,560 --> 01:17:41,680 Speaker 8: Ye. 1609 01:17:43,040 --> 01:17:46,640 Speaker 4: So all right, now we can start yeah podcast at 1610 01:17:46,680 --> 01:17:50,960 Speaker 4: Patriots dot com is the email address. The tpx hutline 1611 01:17:51,240 --> 01:17:55,920 Speaker 4: is eighty five past five hundred Evans just getting here. Uh, 1612 01:17:56,400 --> 01:17:59,240 Speaker 4: your initial thoughts. 1613 01:17:58,840 --> 01:18:02,320 Speaker 10: Yeah, I thought a lot of football which was good 1614 01:18:02,320 --> 01:18:07,439 Speaker 10: to hear, and obviously the focus on the trenches and 1615 01:18:07,800 --> 01:18:11,000 Speaker 10: offensive line. I thought that showed pretty good understanding of 1616 01:18:11,040 --> 01:18:13,080 Speaker 10: where things are at right now for the Patriots and 1617 01:18:13,640 --> 01:18:15,760 Speaker 10: what's going wrong. And I think the last thing that 1618 01:18:15,800 --> 01:18:18,600 Speaker 10: stood out to me was the question when he was 1619 01:18:18,640 --> 01:18:22,439 Speaker 10: asked what your role in Drake's development was gonna be. 1620 01:18:22,520 --> 01:18:25,800 Speaker 10: He had an answer right away, and I thought he 1621 01:18:25,840 --> 01:18:28,400 Speaker 10: gave a great answer in terms of game management and 1622 01:18:28,840 --> 01:18:33,080 Speaker 10: situational awareness. We all know Drake's extremely talented. We all 1623 01:18:33,120 --> 01:18:35,000 Speaker 10: know that he's got all the ability in the world. 1624 01:18:35,400 --> 01:18:38,040 Speaker 10: But for them to win and lose football games here 1625 01:18:38,080 --> 01:18:40,280 Speaker 10: and get on the right side of things, he's got 1626 01:18:40,320 --> 01:18:42,800 Speaker 10: to learn that aspect of the game. And I felt 1627 01:18:42,920 --> 01:18:46,040 Speaker 10: very brady to Bill to me, you know, in terms 1628 01:18:46,120 --> 01:18:48,840 Speaker 10: of we're gonna sit down, we're gonna talk about, you know, 1629 01:18:48,920 --> 01:18:51,120 Speaker 10: what we're gonna do in certain situations, and how we're 1630 01:18:51,120 --> 01:18:53,160 Speaker 10: gonna handle games and how we're gonna get it across 1631 01:18:53,160 --> 01:18:55,400 Speaker 10: the finish line and things like that, And I thought 1632 01:18:55,479 --> 01:18:58,759 Speaker 10: that was that was good to hear. That wasn't passing 1633 01:18:59,160 --> 01:19:02,639 Speaker 10: the buck to the offensive coordinator whoever he ends up hiring. 1634 01:19:02,720 --> 01:19:04,160 Speaker 10: That was you know, this is going to be my 1635 01:19:04,240 --> 01:19:05,320 Speaker 10: right and I like what he said. 1636 01:19:05,320 --> 01:19:07,400 Speaker 4: You know, our first step is to get to be 1637 01:19:07,439 --> 01:19:09,519 Speaker 4: good enough to take advantage of bad football. 1638 01:19:09,680 --> 01:19:11,599 Speaker 3: I love that. Yeah, I love that too. 1639 01:19:11,600 --> 01:19:13,040 Speaker 6: You know that was something I was thinking of as 1640 01:19:13,080 --> 01:19:15,240 Speaker 6: I was, you know, just putting looking at the schedule 1641 01:19:15,280 --> 01:19:17,599 Speaker 6: and realizing, I think the Patriots are gonna play I 1642 01:19:17,600 --> 01:19:20,920 Speaker 6: believe it's seven or eight of the top ten picking 1643 01:19:20,920 --> 01:19:24,360 Speaker 6: teams this year, so seven of the eight bottom the league. 1644 01:19:24,680 --> 01:19:26,439 Speaker 6: You're gonna play the worst teams in the league next year. 1645 01:19:26,479 --> 01:19:28,160 Speaker 6: So just be the best of the bad, you know, 1646 01:19:28,479 --> 01:19:30,320 Speaker 6: beat those teams that can't get out of their own way. 1647 01:19:30,320 --> 01:19:31,840 Speaker 6: I think it's a good it's a good first step. 1648 01:19:31,880 --> 01:19:33,160 Speaker 6: I think it's a good way to look at it. 1649 01:19:33,360 --> 01:19:37,120 Speaker 4: Yeap, what did you think about him talking about having 1650 01:19:37,160 --> 01:19:39,160 Speaker 4: an efficient passing game? 1651 01:19:39,560 --> 01:19:39,800 Speaker 10: Yeah? 1652 01:19:39,880 --> 01:19:44,679 Speaker 4: Is that a does that say? Does that raise any 1653 01:19:44,720 --> 01:19:45,439 Speaker 4: flags with you? 1654 01:19:45,840 --> 01:19:50,120 Speaker 10: Well, there's a difference between efficient and high volume, right, 1655 01:19:50,240 --> 01:19:53,439 Speaker 10: So I guess that depends on what your definition is 1656 01:19:54,000 --> 01:19:57,640 Speaker 10: of that. In Tennessee, they were with Ryan Tannehill an 1657 01:19:57,640 --> 01:20:01,040 Speaker 10: efficient passing game, but they just didn't a lot, So 1658 01:20:01,600 --> 01:20:05,400 Speaker 10: can you be efficient with twenty twenty five attempts a game? 1659 01:20:05,439 --> 01:20:07,760 Speaker 10: And is that how he wants to play? I still 1660 01:20:07,800 --> 01:20:12,120 Speaker 10: wonder about that aspect, but hearing him talking about protecting 1661 01:20:12,160 --> 01:20:16,640 Speaker 10: the quarterback affecting the quarterback on defense, that to me 1662 01:20:16,840 --> 01:20:19,000 Speaker 10: showed that he knows that this is about the passing 1663 01:20:19,040 --> 01:20:20,759 Speaker 10: game and building through the offense. 1664 01:20:20,760 --> 01:20:23,840 Speaker 5: And you look at like just the weekend's games and 1665 01:20:24,160 --> 01:20:28,439 Speaker 5: the winning teams. I could have a counter argument to this, 1666 01:20:28,479 --> 01:20:30,639 Speaker 5: but the winning teams all through the ball, like twenty 1667 01:20:30,680 --> 01:20:33,479 Speaker 5: five times. I think Josh Allen had twenty six. I 1668 01:20:33,479 --> 01:20:36,639 Speaker 5: think Lamar Jackson had twenty one. I think Jalen Hurts 1669 01:20:36,640 --> 01:20:39,360 Speaker 5: had twenty four. Like, the teams that won the games 1670 01:20:39,439 --> 01:20:43,519 Speaker 5: kind of ran the ball very effectively. And then my 1671 01:20:43,680 --> 01:20:46,160 Speaker 5: argument would be and therefore kept the opponent in the 1672 01:20:46,200 --> 01:20:47,840 Speaker 5: game for longer than they should have been, because I 1673 01:20:47,840 --> 01:20:52,680 Speaker 5: thought especially Baltimore and Buffalo completely dominated their games. But 1674 01:20:53,000 --> 01:20:55,080 Speaker 5: there's three minutes left in the third quarter and Buffalo's 1675 01:20:55,120 --> 01:20:58,679 Speaker 5: up thirteen to seven. The game wasn't competitive to that point, 1676 01:20:59,080 --> 01:21:01,519 Speaker 5: and they're only up thirty team to seven, and Josh 1677 01:21:01,600 --> 01:21:03,560 Speaker 5: Allen does a couple of Josh Allen Things makes a 1678 01:21:03,600 --> 01:21:06,519 Speaker 5: couple of throws and the game's over. But I think 1679 01:21:06,720 --> 01:21:09,840 Speaker 5: you need to be really efficient if you're going to 1680 01:21:09,880 --> 01:21:12,559 Speaker 5: throw it that infrequently. And those teams were, I mean 1681 01:21:12,600 --> 01:21:14,960 Speaker 5: they made, you know, Lamar open the scoring with a 1682 01:21:14,960 --> 01:21:18,760 Speaker 5: great touchdown pass to Bateman, great throw coming across the 1683 01:21:19,520 --> 01:21:21,920 Speaker 5: back line of the end zone. So I think there's 1684 01:21:21,920 --> 01:21:24,360 Speaker 5: an argument to me made both sides. You know, efficiency 1685 01:21:24,400 --> 01:21:27,160 Speaker 5: works in the passing game, not volume. But I would 1686 01:21:27,280 --> 01:21:29,479 Speaker 5: argue that it's kind of hard to put teams away 1687 01:21:29,479 --> 01:21:29,800 Speaker 5: that way. 1688 01:21:29,880 --> 01:21:31,479 Speaker 4: You have to be sure of who your team is 1689 01:21:31,520 --> 01:21:33,920 Speaker 4: and how they're playing that day and how the game 1690 01:21:34,000 --> 01:21:37,240 Speaker 4: declares itself. All right, let's get to the phones. Let's 1691 01:21:37,240 --> 01:21:41,200 Speaker 4: get your reaction TPX outline A five to five pass, 1692 01:21:41,280 --> 01:21:43,960 Speaker 4: five hundred. Christian's been on the line for about an 1693 01:21:44,000 --> 01:21:46,280 Speaker 4: hour and a half. So what's up, Christian? 1694 01:21:47,520 --> 01:21:51,519 Speaker 26: Hey you guys, well, just recovering from the wildfires here 1695 01:21:51,640 --> 01:21:52,599 Speaker 26: in LA. 1696 01:21:53,600 --> 01:21:54,799 Speaker 4: How are you doing personally? 1697 01:21:54,840 --> 01:21:59,439 Speaker 26: You okay, Yeah, my mind's a little a little freed 1698 01:21:59,479 --> 01:22:03,960 Speaker 26: out out here. Everyone's just just devastated emotionally. We were 1699 01:22:04,520 --> 01:22:08,120 Speaker 26: I don't know, I mean, I know it's just prayers 1700 01:22:08,120 --> 01:22:11,760 Speaker 26: and blessings, but amongst all the damage of fifty three 1701 01:22:11,880 --> 01:22:14,720 Speaker 26: hundred homes. We live in the Palisades, and we were 1702 01:22:15,240 --> 01:22:17,040 Speaker 26: one of the houses on the on the edge of 1703 01:22:17,040 --> 01:22:19,439 Speaker 26: the fire that was spared. So we're trying to figure 1704 01:22:19,439 --> 01:22:21,679 Speaker 26: out ways to turn that blessing around to other people. 1705 01:22:22,800 --> 01:22:26,080 Speaker 26: But but that's yeah, that's that's that's the stuff here 1706 01:22:26,479 --> 01:22:31,040 Speaker 26: football wise, guys, I know you guys are are very 1707 01:22:31,120 --> 01:22:34,639 Speaker 26: enamorous with Brabel, but and I don't want to prove 1708 01:22:34,640 --> 01:22:37,320 Speaker 26: pool it. I just want to say this. It just 1709 01:22:37,520 --> 01:22:40,439 Speaker 26: seems like we are still trying to hold on to 1710 01:22:40,520 --> 01:22:45,720 Speaker 26: the glory days, remnants of the dynasty, and even braveelhom 1711 01:22:45,760 --> 01:22:48,639 Speaker 26: said himself said getting back to winning waste. I don't 1712 01:22:48,680 --> 01:22:50,920 Speaker 26: want to go back to anything. I want to move 1713 01:22:51,000 --> 01:22:53,599 Speaker 26: forward to the new era of how to win in 1714 01:22:53,640 --> 01:22:57,439 Speaker 26: the modern game. That's advancing faster than it seems like 1715 01:22:58,600 --> 01:23:02,800 Speaker 26: our philosophies trying to adjust to it. I know, you know, 1716 01:23:02,840 --> 01:23:07,200 Speaker 26: he's a defensive minded, run first guy. He had Derreck Henry. 1717 01:23:07,400 --> 01:23:10,559 Speaker 26: We don't, so I'm just a little bit I'm wary. 1718 01:23:10,600 --> 01:23:12,360 Speaker 26: I'm not I'm not poo pooving him. I love Mike 1719 01:23:12,360 --> 01:23:16,320 Speaker 26: Brabell that he comes with a foundational knowledge of the 1720 01:23:16,360 --> 01:23:22,360 Speaker 26: game with a full complement of team. You know, how 1721 01:23:22,400 --> 01:23:25,559 Speaker 26: to build a team or organizational skills. But what I 1722 01:23:25,640 --> 01:23:28,040 Speaker 26: did not hear and what I think, like you guys said, 1723 01:23:28,840 --> 01:23:32,080 Speaker 26: I don't really see a vision for the offense. I know, Yeah, 1724 01:23:32,120 --> 01:23:34,640 Speaker 26: everybody wants to have an efficient path and game. What 1725 01:23:34,800 --> 01:23:38,320 Speaker 26: is his vision for today's offense? Not what we used 1726 01:23:38,360 --> 01:23:40,560 Speaker 26: to do or how he used to do it or 1727 01:23:40,600 --> 01:23:43,120 Speaker 26: how he did it with Tennessee with a Hall of 1728 01:23:43,160 --> 01:23:46,040 Speaker 26: Fame running back and a middling quarterback? What are we 1729 01:23:46,160 --> 01:23:48,760 Speaker 26: going to do to move forward? Do you guys have 1730 01:23:48,760 --> 01:23:52,920 Speaker 26: any ideas about Rable with moving forward into the new 1731 01:23:52,960 --> 01:23:56,800 Speaker 26: offensive philosophies that are I wanted a tight pants guy. 1732 01:23:57,000 --> 01:23:59,759 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean my idea is that he's smart enough 1733 01:24:00,360 --> 01:24:03,160 Speaker 4: to know what he doesn't know, to hire good people, 1734 01:24:03,200 --> 01:24:05,800 Speaker 4: like he said, and surround Drake May with the best 1735 01:24:05,840 --> 01:24:09,720 Speaker 4: people possible. He knows, he said it. He knows he's 1736 01:24:09,760 --> 01:24:12,720 Speaker 4: got a dynamic quarterback. To me, that means a guy 1737 01:24:12,720 --> 01:24:14,640 Speaker 4: who can do a lot of different things with his 1738 01:24:15,040 --> 01:24:19,040 Speaker 4: arm and his legs. And Vrabel's smart enough to know 1739 01:24:19,120 --> 01:24:21,160 Speaker 4: he's gonna have to have an offense to take advantage 1740 01:24:21,200 --> 01:24:24,920 Speaker 4: of that. Yeah, he knows. He doesn't have Derrick Henry. Yeah, 1741 01:24:24,960 --> 01:24:27,920 Speaker 4: you know, so, I like, if he thinks he's gonna 1742 01:24:27,960 --> 01:24:31,720 Speaker 4: do exactly what he did in Tennessee, then then we 1743 01:24:31,880 --> 01:24:34,640 Speaker 4: got problems. Every team's going to be different. But I 1744 01:24:34,680 --> 01:24:36,160 Speaker 4: think he's smart enough to know that. 1745 01:24:37,680 --> 01:24:40,400 Speaker 26: Can I ask you guys one question? What was his 1746 01:24:40,560 --> 01:24:43,400 Speaker 26: drafting record? Like with him and his I know he 1747 01:24:43,439 --> 01:24:45,680 Speaker 26: didn't person do the drafting, or maybe he did, but 1748 01:24:45,680 --> 01:24:48,680 Speaker 26: what was his drafting record with the picks that he 1749 01:24:48,880 --> 01:24:51,560 Speaker 26: made or under his regime? How much success did he 1750 01:24:51,640 --> 01:24:54,400 Speaker 26: have with that with wide receivers or anything of that nature. 1751 01:24:54,400 --> 01:24:56,280 Speaker 5: Do you guys know, pretty pretty good? I mean, he's 1752 01:24:56,280 --> 01:24:59,639 Speaker 5: a little uneven, but you know, Aj Brown and Justin Simmons, 1753 01:25:00,200 --> 01:25:03,639 Speaker 5: they drafted some good players. They weren't all home Carol 1754 01:25:03,680 --> 01:25:05,320 Speaker 5: Landry another good draft pick they had. 1755 01:25:05,400 --> 01:25:07,600 Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, they were. They started on a heater, I 1756 01:25:07,640 --> 01:25:10,639 Speaker 10: feel like, and then they kind of tempered off towards 1757 01:25:10,680 --> 01:25:13,000 Speaker 10: the end, which is what often happens. 1758 01:25:13,120 --> 01:25:15,880 Speaker 4: Well, yeah, and I'm sure there's stories there because as 1759 01:25:15,920 --> 01:25:20,080 Speaker 4: we know, there was some division between him and personnel 1760 01:25:20,160 --> 01:25:23,519 Speaker 4: and there was a battle for control that he ended 1761 01:25:23,600 --> 01:25:26,960 Speaker 4: up winning, and then eventually it might have cost him 1762 01:25:26,960 --> 01:25:29,479 Speaker 4: his job because of how he brushed people the wrong 1763 01:25:29,479 --> 01:25:30,000 Speaker 4: way there. 1764 01:25:30,280 --> 01:25:30,840 Speaker 5: I'll tell you what. 1765 01:25:31,320 --> 01:25:33,080 Speaker 26: That's what scares me, right, Like, did he make the 1766 01:25:33,120 --> 01:25:34,519 Speaker 26: decision to trade aj Brown? 1767 01:25:36,520 --> 01:25:38,160 Speaker 5: He was against them, He was against that. 1768 01:25:39,680 --> 01:25:41,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, that was one of the beginnings of the end 1769 01:25:41,920 --> 01:25:42,639 Speaker 4: for him. I think. 1770 01:25:42,720 --> 01:25:45,120 Speaker 5: Yeah, Well, it caused a huge rift between he and 1771 01:25:45,520 --> 01:25:49,080 Speaker 5: John Robinson at the time, and it looked like he 1772 01:25:49,200 --> 01:25:53,360 Speaker 5: was winning that power struggle. But in retrospect, I think 1773 01:25:54,600 --> 01:25:57,519 Speaker 5: it ended up being detrimental to everybody because number one, 1774 01:25:57,560 --> 01:26:00,599 Speaker 5: they tried to replace him with Traylon Burke's which didn't 1775 01:26:00,640 --> 01:26:04,160 Speaker 5: work because obviously one guy can play and one guy can't. 1776 01:26:04,520 --> 01:26:07,280 Speaker 5: So you know, to Evan's point, they were on a 1777 01:26:07,280 --> 01:26:09,559 Speaker 5: heater a little bit in the draft, and then not 1778 01:26:09,600 --> 01:26:13,519 Speaker 5: so much. And then I think when he came here 1779 01:26:13,560 --> 01:26:16,000 Speaker 5: for his Hall of Fame ceremony, that did not sit 1780 01:26:16,040 --> 01:26:18,800 Speaker 5: well with people in Tennessee. Yeah, and I think that 1781 01:26:18,920 --> 01:26:19,639 Speaker 5: led to his ouster. 1782 01:26:20,120 --> 01:26:23,679 Speaker 4: Yeah, thanks, Christian, I mean, okay, go ahead, you held 1783 01:26:23,680 --> 01:26:25,479 Speaker 4: out for a long time. One more question was over 1784 01:26:25,520 --> 01:26:26,000 Speaker 4: and now yeah. 1785 01:26:26,040 --> 01:26:29,679 Speaker 26: Yeah, how many defensive minded coaches have ever built really 1786 01:26:29,720 --> 01:26:31,840 Speaker 26: successful offense is in their. 1787 01:26:31,720 --> 01:26:35,679 Speaker 5: REGIMEE Well, it depends what you define as really special. 1788 01:26:35,880 --> 01:26:39,479 Speaker 5: I mean, I think Houston was pretty good offense. I 1789 01:26:39,560 --> 01:26:43,400 Speaker 5: think when Houston was was when healthy. I think they 1790 01:26:43,439 --> 01:26:45,479 Speaker 5: have a pretty good offense. And that's I'm trying to 1791 01:26:45,479 --> 01:26:47,559 Speaker 5: be modern. I'm not trying to go back to like 1792 01:26:47,560 --> 01:26:48,280 Speaker 5: two thousand and seven. 1793 01:26:49,000 --> 01:26:50,040 Speaker 4: Has a pretty good offense. 1794 01:26:50,360 --> 01:26:53,080 Speaker 10: Defensive that's good. That's a good one. That's a good 1795 01:26:53,080 --> 01:26:56,559 Speaker 10: bring up, you know. I think the Texans currently, I 1796 01:26:56,560 --> 01:26:58,840 Speaker 10: think that's what you're talking about with Bobby Slowank and CJ. 1797 01:26:58,920 --> 01:27:02,800 Speaker 10: Strouder or in a good spot. But all of his concerns, Christian, 1798 01:27:02,840 --> 01:27:05,280 Speaker 10: all your concerns about the offense or everything that we 1799 01:27:05,320 --> 01:27:08,080 Speaker 10: brought up last week when this was all being rumored 1800 01:27:08,120 --> 01:27:10,160 Speaker 10: express to happen. And I think the one thing that 1801 01:27:10,200 --> 01:27:12,720 Speaker 10: he said today was we got to find out what 1802 01:27:12,760 --> 01:27:13,839 Speaker 10: our players can execute. 1803 01:27:13,960 --> 01:27:14,080 Speaker 3: You know. 1804 01:27:14,080 --> 01:27:15,679 Speaker 10: It would be great for him to come up there 1805 01:27:15,960 --> 01:27:18,639 Speaker 10: and say, oh, we're going to be, you know, an 1806 01:27:18,640 --> 01:27:20,400 Speaker 10: outside zone based scheme, or we're going to be a 1807 01:27:20,400 --> 01:27:22,519 Speaker 10: spread based scheme or whatever the case may be. But 1808 01:27:23,080 --> 01:27:25,120 Speaker 10: they might not have the horses to run that kind 1809 01:27:25,160 --> 01:27:27,519 Speaker 10: of offense. So he said he wants to be versatile, 1810 01:27:27,960 --> 01:27:30,479 Speaker 10: you know, and he wants to be creative offensively and 1811 01:27:30,560 --> 01:27:32,200 Speaker 10: be able to do a bunch of different things. But 1812 01:27:33,080 --> 01:27:35,280 Speaker 10: he brought up r pos, Like, if our quarterback isn't 1813 01:27:35,320 --> 01:27:39,280 Speaker 10: good at r pos, then we can't run RPOs. Right, 1814 01:27:39,360 --> 01:27:45,519 Speaker 10: So he said, the gap you means drake. Drake's okay, bike, 1815 01:27:45,640 --> 01:27:48,920 Speaker 10: give me more, give me more nickel pressure. Like that 1816 01:27:49,320 --> 01:27:52,160 Speaker 10: was a good one. Yeah, But like they we'll see, 1817 01:27:52,240 --> 01:27:54,320 Speaker 10: like we'll see what we'll kind of figure out. I 1818 01:27:54,360 --> 01:27:56,800 Speaker 10: think what kind of offense they want to build based 1819 01:27:56,800 --> 01:27:59,080 Speaker 10: off of their personnel moves, based off of their actions, 1820 01:27:59,120 --> 01:28:01,080 Speaker 10: you know what what is that? But they put together 1821 01:28:01,160 --> 01:28:03,360 Speaker 10: right now, they don't have an offense, so it's hard 1822 01:28:03,400 --> 01:28:04,400 Speaker 10: to say what they're gonna right. 1823 01:28:04,400 --> 01:28:06,720 Speaker 4: He doesn't have a coordinator, he doesn't have an offense yet, 1824 01:28:06,800 --> 01:28:11,439 Speaker 4: so it's a little early for those detailed questions. And listen, 1825 01:28:11,560 --> 01:28:13,240 Speaker 4: even when he has them, he's not going to just 1826 01:28:13,560 --> 01:28:14,400 Speaker 4: give it all away. 1827 01:28:14,840 --> 01:28:15,080 Speaker 3: You know. 1828 01:28:15,439 --> 01:28:17,960 Speaker 4: He wants to have some element of surprise for the opponent. 1829 01:28:19,280 --> 01:28:23,280 Speaker 4: So but again I go back to football IQ. We 1830 01:28:23,400 --> 01:28:26,559 Speaker 4: know he's got it. He's demonstrated that as a player, 1831 01:28:26,560 --> 01:28:31,439 Speaker 4: he's demonstrated that as a coach, so he's he's I 1832 01:28:31,479 --> 01:28:34,439 Speaker 4: think he knows you have to adapt, h and you 1833 01:28:34,560 --> 01:28:37,720 Speaker 4: have to adapt around your personnel. Uh so, you know, 1834 01:28:37,800 --> 01:28:41,519 Speaker 4: right now it's roster building time. You know, it's we 1835 01:28:41,600 --> 01:28:44,720 Speaker 4: got to get this roster together. I would hope that 1836 01:28:45,720 --> 01:28:48,000 Speaker 4: before they get too into that, they do have an 1837 01:28:48,000 --> 01:28:51,320 Speaker 4: OC picked so that OC can be part of that process, 1838 01:28:52,000 --> 01:28:53,280 Speaker 4: because I think that's important. 1839 01:28:53,520 --> 01:28:56,400 Speaker 10: Yeah, I feel like the next deadline is mobile, right, like, yeah, 1840 01:28:56,600 --> 01:28:59,120 Speaker 10: you have to you want to probably have your staff 1841 01:28:59,120 --> 01:29:00,960 Speaker 10: in place by the time the Senior Bowl in the 1842 01:29:00,960 --> 01:29:04,200 Speaker 10: Shrine and then the Combine obviously next month starts to roll, 1843 01:29:04,240 --> 01:29:06,840 Speaker 10: because that's when you're going to have the most opportunity 1844 01:29:06,880 --> 01:29:08,519 Speaker 10: to get to know these kids that are coming into 1845 01:29:08,560 --> 01:29:08,960 Speaker 10: the draft. 1846 01:29:09,040 --> 01:29:12,320 Speaker 4: Yep, let's go back to the TPX cut line Patty's 1847 01:29:12,320 --> 01:29:13,599 Speaker 4: and agawan. What's up Patty? 1848 01:29:15,040 --> 01:29:15,920 Speaker 11: So guys can hear me? 1849 01:29:15,960 --> 01:29:18,519 Speaker 4: Okay, yep, Matt, you want to turn that up a 1850 01:29:18,560 --> 01:29:20,519 Speaker 4: little just yeah, that's good. 1851 01:29:20,960 --> 01:29:21,240 Speaker 8: Thanks. 1852 01:29:21,240 --> 01:29:23,640 Speaker 27: So my question is regarding the staff, like, if he 1853 01:29:23,720 --> 01:29:26,679 Speaker 27: has a staff built up, can he just bring them 1854 01:29:26,680 --> 01:29:28,479 Speaker 27: in or does he have to just bring in his 1855 01:29:28,960 --> 01:29:32,160 Speaker 27: like all the positional guys and interview for all the coordinators. 1856 01:29:32,160 --> 01:29:33,400 Speaker 27: Then I'll take it off there, guys. 1857 01:29:33,600 --> 01:29:35,640 Speaker 4: So that's a good question. I mean, in terms of 1858 01:29:35,720 --> 01:29:39,200 Speaker 4: hiring coordinators, what is that. What are the rules around. 1859 01:29:38,840 --> 01:29:41,479 Speaker 10: That Rooney rule? Yeah, so if you open up a 1860 01:29:41,600 --> 01:29:46,400 Speaker 10: search for offensive and defensive coordinator, special teams coordinator outside 1861 01:29:46,400 --> 01:29:48,559 Speaker 10: the building. So let's just say they're not retaining Alex 1862 01:29:48,600 --> 01:29:50,639 Speaker 10: van Pelt and they're going to go in a different direction, 1863 01:29:50,960 --> 01:29:53,200 Speaker 10: then they have to adhere to a hiring process. So 1864 01:29:53,240 --> 01:29:54,720 Speaker 10: you got to go through the Rooney rule and you 1865 01:29:54,760 --> 01:29:57,800 Speaker 10: have to interview minority candidates and the whole thing. So 1866 01:29:57,920 --> 01:30:00,160 Speaker 10: it could be that part of it could probably be 1867 01:30:00,160 --> 01:30:02,240 Speaker 10: a little bit longer than this part of it was 1868 01:30:02,320 --> 01:30:03,040 Speaker 10: in that respect. 1869 01:30:03,160 --> 01:30:07,439 Speaker 4: Okay, although Pep Hamilton and Byron Leftwich, maybe they doubled up, 1870 01:30:07,439 --> 01:30:09,320 Speaker 4: maybe they already interviewed them as OC's. 1871 01:30:11,040 --> 01:30:13,400 Speaker 5: No, I don't think that's something we should be joking about. 1872 01:30:13,439 --> 01:30:16,640 Speaker 4: To Rabel worked with Pep Hamilton at Texas? Didn't he 1873 01:30:17,240 --> 01:30:19,639 Speaker 4: at the Texans? Were they together there? 1874 01:30:19,960 --> 01:30:20,559 Speaker 10: I don't believe. 1875 01:30:20,560 --> 01:30:21,719 Speaker 4: So, No, they didn't cross. 1876 01:30:22,200 --> 01:30:26,519 Speaker 10: Now, Pep Hamilton came in the regime after Bill O'Brien. Okay, 1877 01:30:26,640 --> 01:30:27,679 Speaker 10: David Culley, all. 1878 01:30:27,640 --> 01:30:32,080 Speaker 4: Right, let's go to who do we have Ray in Atlanta? 1879 01:30:32,200 --> 01:30:32,559 Speaker 4: What's up? 1880 01:30:32,640 --> 01:30:32,840 Speaker 8: Ray? 1881 01:30:34,080 --> 01:30:34,680 Speaker 9: Hey? 1882 01:30:34,840 --> 01:30:37,080 Speaker 4: Guys doing the Okay. 1883 01:30:37,680 --> 01:30:44,320 Speaker 9: Hey, I'm excited of the press conference. Definitely. I'm definitely 1884 01:30:44,360 --> 01:30:49,240 Speaker 9: a good spirits. I'm real positive and optimistic about Rabel 1885 01:30:49,360 --> 01:30:53,720 Speaker 9: being our coach. I know, I have a feeling. Matter 1886 01:30:53,760 --> 01:30:56,840 Speaker 9: of fact, I know that we don't be balling out 1887 01:30:56,920 --> 01:30:59,599 Speaker 9: next year. Ain't no way. We have Rabel and we're 1888 01:30:59,640 --> 01:31:03,120 Speaker 9: not gonna all out next year. Look at what he is. 1889 01:31:03,560 --> 01:31:07,000 Speaker 9: He's a great coach. Understand, he's not Belichick, He's not this, 1890 01:31:07,120 --> 01:31:10,760 Speaker 9: he's not that he is. He's Bravo. He's his own man, 1891 01:31:10,880 --> 01:31:14,800 Speaker 9: his own person, his own coach, and no one will 1892 01:31:14,840 --> 01:31:18,200 Speaker 9: ever be Belichick. You know that that's even done comparing 1893 01:31:18,280 --> 01:31:21,200 Speaker 9: them too. You know he can only be himself, which 1894 01:31:21,240 --> 01:31:24,799 Speaker 9: is a great coach, and with his knowledge of the game, 1895 01:31:25,400 --> 01:31:28,439 Speaker 9: he's gonna make sure that the offense and the defense 1896 01:31:29,240 --> 01:31:32,000 Speaker 9: is up the par and doing what they need to do, 1897 01:31:32,560 --> 01:31:36,920 Speaker 9: you know, beyond doing your job. You know, execute, execute, execute. 1898 01:31:37,280 --> 01:31:40,600 Speaker 9: So I take Rabol coach Rabel on face value. I 1899 01:31:40,640 --> 01:31:44,479 Speaker 9: know we're gonna I know we're gonna be better than 1900 01:31:44,479 --> 01:31:47,360 Speaker 9: the two years prior. I know that for a fact, 1901 01:31:47,360 --> 01:31:50,639 Speaker 9: this for face value of who he is and what 1902 01:31:50,720 --> 01:31:53,720 Speaker 9: he and what he had done as a coach, let 1903 01:31:53,720 --> 01:31:55,840 Speaker 9: alone as a player. Back in the days when I 1904 01:31:55,920 --> 01:31:59,000 Speaker 9: was watching. So I look forward to this. I know 1905 01:31:59,080 --> 01:32:03,240 Speaker 9: a lot of Patriotis and and media people, you know 1906 01:32:03,280 --> 01:32:05,720 Speaker 9: that they're happy about this. You know this, this this 1907 01:32:05,800 --> 01:32:09,280 Speaker 9: is a breath of fresh air, you know. And what 1908 01:32:09,520 --> 01:32:12,320 Speaker 9: like I said, we're gonna be bumping out next year. 1909 01:32:13,040 --> 01:32:17,280 Speaker 9: I guarantee it. I guarantee it, you know, and it's 1910 01:32:17,320 --> 01:32:20,880 Speaker 9: gonna be fun, it's gonna be exciting. I don't have 1911 01:32:21,040 --> 01:32:23,240 Speaker 9: no nothing to worry about. I just want to see 1912 01:32:23,240 --> 01:32:27,840 Speaker 9: how everything na bods, the draft, the different players. We 1913 01:32:27,960 --> 01:32:32,200 Speaker 9: know that we have to mix modern with the ancient, 1914 01:32:32,520 --> 01:32:36,800 Speaker 9: meaning the old man's knowledge has to keep up with 1915 01:32:37,360 --> 01:32:41,040 Speaker 9: this young man's game. You know, the new techniques, the 1916 01:32:42,479 --> 01:32:45,559 Speaker 9: you know, not the pocket but the passing, the running, 1917 01:32:46,760 --> 01:32:52,240 Speaker 9: everything everything is young now, so you know the knowledge 1918 01:32:52,400 --> 01:32:55,880 Speaker 9: of the games twenty years and back for where was 1919 01:32:55,920 --> 01:33:00,760 Speaker 9: born I was, but I'm also even an eye on 1920 01:33:01,439 --> 01:33:05,840 Speaker 9: the modern plays as games and techniques and and just 1921 01:33:06,160 --> 01:33:08,519 Speaker 9: you know how it's a new game. It's it's a 1922 01:33:08,560 --> 01:33:12,240 Speaker 9: new day, a new game for that players, NFL football, 1923 01:33:12,479 --> 01:33:15,880 Speaker 9: And so like I said, we don't be balling out. 1924 01:33:16,280 --> 01:33:19,920 Speaker 9: I trust them and and people who's gonna have to 1925 01:33:19,960 --> 01:33:22,400 Speaker 9: wait to see. I know it's new when people get 1926 01:33:22,400 --> 01:33:23,679 Speaker 9: to go in you know whatever. 1927 01:33:23,800 --> 01:33:27,920 Speaker 4: But oh, sorry about that, I hit the button. Sorry, 1928 01:33:28,040 --> 01:33:30,400 Speaker 4: but I get it. I mean Ray Ray believe that 1929 01:33:30,439 --> 01:33:33,760 Speaker 4: he's gonna get these guys playing hard for him. He 1930 01:33:33,880 --> 01:33:37,040 Speaker 4: has typically and that's the kind of player he wants, 1931 01:33:38,840 --> 01:33:41,480 Speaker 4: is guys who just give it all out on the field, 1932 01:33:41,840 --> 01:33:45,559 Speaker 4: uh and are accountable. But it is a good point. 1933 01:33:45,720 --> 01:33:49,519 Speaker 4: The game is evolving, it is changing, and Rabel brought 1934 01:33:49,520 --> 01:33:53,240 Speaker 4: it up. The ni L guys come, they've been through 1935 01:33:53,560 --> 01:33:57,000 Speaker 4: maybe many you know, systems, many coaches before they even 1936 01:33:57,040 --> 01:33:59,920 Speaker 4: get to the NFL, and you know, they're taking a 1937 01:34:00,120 --> 01:34:02,200 Speaker 4: little bit from all of that and you've got to 1938 01:34:02,280 --> 01:34:06,679 Speaker 4: understand who these guys are, get to know them, and 1939 01:34:06,760 --> 01:34:09,880 Speaker 4: it's it's a challenge, but I think he realizes that 1940 01:34:09,880 --> 01:34:13,000 Speaker 4: that the game is evolving in terms of the types 1941 01:34:13,040 --> 01:34:16,519 Speaker 4: of players that you're getting from college. You know, they 1942 01:34:16,560 --> 01:34:20,000 Speaker 4: come a lot with you know, very hefty bank accounts. 1943 01:34:19,640 --> 01:34:21,599 Speaker 3: So different, different packaging than last year. 1944 01:34:21,640 --> 01:34:23,960 Speaker 6: But both coaches I think have stressed the need for 1945 01:34:24,080 --> 01:34:25,880 Speaker 6: now that you have to connect with these players. 1946 01:34:25,960 --> 01:34:27,479 Speaker 3: You have to know them on a personal level. 1947 01:34:27,520 --> 01:34:29,160 Speaker 6: Like he said that they're going to come into the 1948 01:34:29,160 --> 01:34:31,360 Speaker 6: facility with something on their mind that you know, you 1949 01:34:31,439 --> 01:34:33,760 Speaker 6: need to be able to understand that that there are. 1950 01:34:33,640 --> 01:34:34,839 Speaker 3: Other things besides football. 1951 01:34:34,880 --> 01:34:36,840 Speaker 6: And you know, that's the message that I think, you know, 1952 01:34:37,280 --> 01:34:39,200 Speaker 6: we do through levels and grenades at Bill and then 1953 01:34:39,280 --> 01:34:40,960 Speaker 6: I think that's one of the things that you know, 1954 01:34:41,040 --> 01:34:43,080 Speaker 6: generally players felt like that. You know, he didn't know 1955 01:34:43,080 --> 01:34:45,320 Speaker 6: those guys that well, and that's something that modern coaches 1956 01:34:45,360 --> 01:34:47,640 Speaker 6: need to do, make that connection with their players. 1957 01:34:47,840 --> 01:34:50,120 Speaker 4: And he's going to try to make that connection. But 1958 01:34:50,280 --> 01:34:54,599 Speaker 4: make no mistake, he's going to be demanding, like, Okay, 1959 01:34:54,720 --> 01:34:58,439 Speaker 4: I'm going to get to know you and I'm hearing you, 1960 01:34:58,880 --> 01:35:02,120 Speaker 4: but in return, I need you to go out there 1961 01:35:02,240 --> 01:35:06,840 Speaker 4: and give it all, you know, And as Ray said, 1962 01:35:06,920 --> 01:35:09,320 Speaker 4: ball out for me. Yeah, those are the types of 1963 01:35:09,320 --> 01:35:13,959 Speaker 4: players that are gonna, you know, be his favorite students. 1964 01:35:14,120 --> 01:35:15,479 Speaker 6: It was kind of the point I made at the top, 1965 01:35:15,520 --> 01:35:17,160 Speaker 6: and like there are certain like anybody who played in 1966 01:35:17,439 --> 01:35:20,040 Speaker 6: the league I think has an innate respect from players, 1967 01:35:20,040 --> 01:35:22,800 Speaker 6: but like to've played at that level and to won 1968 01:35:22,880 --> 01:35:24,880 Speaker 6: multiple Super Bowls and like I said, like play both 1969 01:35:24,920 --> 01:35:27,360 Speaker 6: sides of the ball, to catch ten touchdowns is as 1970 01:35:27,400 --> 01:35:28,480 Speaker 6: an outside linebacker. 1971 01:35:28,520 --> 01:35:29,920 Speaker 3: And you know, as Mike. 1972 01:35:29,880 --> 01:35:33,760 Speaker 6: Himself highlighted a player who didn't start for four years 1973 01:35:33,760 --> 01:35:35,640 Speaker 6: and was kind of behind the scenes and was, you know, 1974 01:35:35,680 --> 01:35:38,200 Speaker 6: one of those middle fifty three guys, and then became 1975 01:35:38,600 --> 01:35:41,120 Speaker 6: a superstar and you know, and then you know, went 1976 01:35:41,160 --> 01:35:42,439 Speaker 6: and was a veteran and a mentor. 1977 01:35:42,520 --> 01:35:44,360 Speaker 3: He's had a wide range. 1978 01:35:44,120 --> 01:35:46,400 Speaker 6: Of experiences, not only a player, but as a coach too, 1979 01:35:46,439 --> 01:35:48,240 Speaker 6: And I think that's just you know, you just I 1980 01:35:48,240 --> 01:35:49,720 Speaker 6: don't know, as a player, you look to him and 1981 01:35:49,760 --> 01:35:51,400 Speaker 6: be like, man, what can't this guy do? 1982 01:35:51,520 --> 01:35:51,680 Speaker 3: You know? 1983 01:35:51,760 --> 01:35:54,040 Speaker 6: He knows this game inside and out. He played both 1984 01:35:54,040 --> 01:35:55,720 Speaker 6: sides of the ball. He made big plays on both 1985 01:35:55,760 --> 01:35:57,439 Speaker 6: sides of the ball and the biggest moments. It's just 1986 01:35:57,720 --> 01:36:00,000 Speaker 6: I think there's just an immediate, huge amount of resps 1987 01:36:00,040 --> 01:36:01,240 Speaker 6: that guys that from my favorite. 1988 01:36:01,479 --> 01:36:04,400 Speaker 4: So I just got word that UH head coach Mike 1989 01:36:04,400 --> 01:36:07,320 Speaker 4: Grabel will be joining us. They're just getting something to 1990 01:36:07,320 --> 01:36:13,040 Speaker 4: eat right now. So when he does come, you, being 1991 01:36:13,080 --> 01:36:15,519 Speaker 4: lowest in the totem pole, you can you can stay 1992 01:36:15,520 --> 01:36:17,200 Speaker 4: in the room, stand behind us or something. 1993 01:36:18,320 --> 01:36:19,519 Speaker 5: Don't look at don't even look. 1994 01:36:19,680 --> 01:36:20,200 Speaker 10: I want to. 1995 01:36:20,120 --> 01:36:22,160 Speaker 4: Introduce him to you because I want him to know 1996 01:36:22,240 --> 01:36:28,080 Speaker 4: that you're on the offense. I'm gonna I'm going to 1997 01:36:28,160 --> 01:36:30,599 Speaker 4: introduce you as our resident and savant. 1998 01:36:31,400 --> 01:36:35,400 Speaker 10: And I'm gonna tell you. 1999 01:36:32,240 --> 01:36:37,360 Speaker 5: That not do that because he'll remember it and he'll 2000 01:36:37,360 --> 01:36:39,360 Speaker 5: bust know. 2001 01:36:39,360 --> 01:36:40,280 Speaker 4: But he'll remember it. 2002 01:36:40,320 --> 01:36:42,720 Speaker 5: They don't want that, Yes we do. 2003 01:36:42,720 --> 01:36:45,320 Speaker 4: We want him to know us, Paul. We have things 2004 01:36:45,320 --> 01:36:49,200 Speaker 4: going on off and I want him to know Evan. 2005 01:36:49,040 --> 01:36:53,400 Speaker 10: To ye, I wanted to know me to just not. 2006 01:36:52,960 --> 01:36:57,439 Speaker 4: From but just so just so hard so because he'll 2007 01:36:57,439 --> 01:37:01,240 Speaker 4: take he'll take that seat. So camera operators, so that 2008 01:37:01,320 --> 01:37:03,640 Speaker 4: you know that he'll sit where Evan is sitting. And 2009 01:37:03,680 --> 01:37:05,479 Speaker 4: Evan you can as long as you're not in front 2010 01:37:05,479 --> 01:37:07,680 Speaker 4: of a camera. You can stand next to Deuce er, 2011 01:37:07,680 --> 01:37:08,840 Speaker 4: behind me or whatever. 2012 01:37:08,640 --> 01:37:09,120 Speaker 10: In the corner. 2013 01:37:10,800 --> 01:37:12,240 Speaker 5: Nobody puts baby in a corner. 2014 01:37:13,160 --> 01:37:15,400 Speaker 4: All right, Let's get to the phones while we wait 2015 01:37:15,439 --> 01:37:18,519 Speaker 4: for a head coach, Mike Rabel, Damon's and Marylyn. What's 2016 01:37:18,560 --> 01:37:19,040 Speaker 4: up Damon? 2017 01:37:20,880 --> 01:37:21,280 Speaker 11: How the go? 2018 01:37:21,720 --> 01:37:23,720 Speaker 4: Hey? 2019 01:37:23,840 --> 01:37:25,000 Speaker 8: So quick question? 2020 01:37:25,600 --> 01:37:28,240 Speaker 27: So I know the past had their eye on Vaybel 2021 01:37:28,320 --> 01:37:31,160 Speaker 27: for a while as the guy they brought it in left, 2022 01:37:31,160 --> 01:37:33,800 Speaker 27: which for the Rooney rule, but I wanted to ask. 2023 01:37:33,920 --> 01:37:36,760 Speaker 28: I guess potential complications for that for the Patriots in 2024 01:37:36,800 --> 01:37:37,200 Speaker 28: the league. 2025 01:37:37,320 --> 01:37:38,080 Speaker 27: If you have a. 2026 01:37:38,040 --> 01:37:41,080 Speaker 28: Set guide that you're interested in, but you have to 2027 01:37:41,120 --> 01:37:44,679 Speaker 28: satisfy the rule, but the minority invice that they don't 2028 01:37:44,720 --> 01:37:48,000 Speaker 28: seem like just a formality or sham, either at the 2029 01:37:48,040 --> 01:37:51,559 Speaker 28: eighth head coach level or at the coordinator level. How 2030 01:37:51,560 --> 01:37:54,320 Speaker 28: does that kind of impact, you know, the league going forward? 2031 01:37:54,360 --> 01:37:56,000 Speaker 28: If there's a set guy you have in mind, like 2032 01:37:56,000 --> 01:37:58,000 Speaker 28: a Ben Johnson going forward for a lot of teams, 2033 01:37:58,240 --> 01:38:01,400 Speaker 28: but you have to give legitimate use to minority candidates. 2034 01:38:01,560 --> 01:38:04,080 Speaker 4: I mean, you saw it. You saw what happened this time. 2035 01:38:04,360 --> 01:38:07,759 Speaker 4: They knew they wanted for able, but they had to 2036 01:38:07,840 --> 01:38:10,880 Speaker 4: satisfy the rule. Did they satisfy the spirit of the rule? 2037 01:38:11,200 --> 01:38:14,280 Speaker 4: Probably not, but they weren't the first team to have 2038 01:38:14,360 --> 01:38:18,880 Speaker 4: done that, to do those interviews just to satisfy the rule. 2039 01:38:19,160 --> 01:38:21,680 Speaker 4: You know, it's hard. It's happened since the beginning of 2040 01:38:21,720 --> 01:38:24,879 Speaker 4: the Rooney rule. The Rooney rule probably needs to be tweaked, 2041 01:38:26,240 --> 01:38:29,599 Speaker 4: if not gotten rid of, but at least tweaked because 2042 01:38:29,640 --> 01:38:31,160 Speaker 4: it's not fair to both sides. 2043 01:38:31,600 --> 01:38:34,879 Speaker 5: It's well intentioned, but it's hard to execute in practice. 2044 01:38:34,920 --> 01:38:37,799 Speaker 5: I think, because I think it's only natural that teams 2045 01:38:37,840 --> 01:38:42,959 Speaker 5: have an idea of dear leading candidates. You know, anytime 2046 01:38:43,000 --> 01:38:44,640 Speaker 5: that you have a job opening, how often do you 2047 01:38:44,640 --> 01:38:47,919 Speaker 5: go into it and say, boy, I have absolutely no idea. 2048 01:38:48,640 --> 01:38:51,200 Speaker 5: It's not like real life. It's not applying for a 2049 01:38:51,320 --> 01:38:54,000 Speaker 5: job and you're one of fifty in friend's looking at 2050 01:38:54,000 --> 01:38:56,760 Speaker 5: the resumes and somehow picks Mike, Like, I don't know, 2051 01:38:56,960 --> 01:39:00,880 Speaker 5: how does that happen? You know, no, nothing, no, nothing, 2052 01:39:00,920 --> 01:39:03,960 Speaker 5: because of the you're not playing today, We're not playing. 2053 01:39:04,200 --> 01:39:04,320 Speaker 14: No. 2054 01:39:04,479 --> 01:39:07,000 Speaker 5: But it's not like real life where you're just blindly 2055 01:39:07,040 --> 01:39:10,680 Speaker 5: interviewing fifty guys and then one guy stands out this 2056 01:39:10,760 --> 01:39:12,920 Speaker 5: is you have an idea of who you want. I 2057 01:39:13,000 --> 01:39:15,240 Speaker 5: understand why it exists. I think you're right, Fred, I 2058 01:39:15,280 --> 01:39:17,080 Speaker 5: think it probably needs to be tweaked in some way 2059 01:39:17,240 --> 01:39:18,639 Speaker 5: or maybe even limit. 2060 01:39:18,800 --> 01:39:21,360 Speaker 4: Maybe there's a better way to just expose owners to 2061 01:39:22,080 --> 01:39:26,000 Speaker 4: all potential coaches, regardless of skin color. But I'm sure 2062 01:39:26,000 --> 01:39:30,240 Speaker 4: there's a lot of coaches that are younger or you know, 2063 01:39:30,439 --> 01:39:33,439 Speaker 4: just aren't on teams that get all the notoriety, that 2064 01:39:33,800 --> 01:39:37,320 Speaker 4: are probably like hidden gems that owners don't know about, 2065 01:39:37,680 --> 01:39:40,320 Speaker 4: forget about you know, who they are, what they look like. 2066 01:39:40,600 --> 01:39:43,720 Speaker 4: Maybe there's a way to better expose these guys in 2067 01:39:43,760 --> 01:39:46,320 Speaker 4: the off season to teams. I don't know, I don't know. 2068 01:39:46,560 --> 01:39:51,160 Speaker 10: Yeah, they do have some like good conferences things like that. 2069 01:39:51,240 --> 01:39:53,720 Speaker 10: But I think the hard part is with this situation 2070 01:39:53,880 --> 01:39:56,720 Speaker 10: is he's he was a hot commodity, and so you 2071 01:39:56,760 --> 01:39:59,559 Speaker 10: had multiple teams that were interested in viewing interviewing Mike 2072 01:39:59,680 --> 01:40:02,439 Speaker 10: rabel Uh. We found out today during the press conference 2073 01:40:02,479 --> 01:40:04,200 Speaker 10: that Mike McCarthy is not going to go back to 2074 01:40:04,240 --> 01:40:07,240 Speaker 10: the Cowboys. What happens if you know a team loses 2075 01:40:07,280 --> 01:40:09,960 Speaker 10: early in the playoffs that's expecting a deep run eny 2076 01:40:10,000 --> 01:40:12,559 Speaker 10: blow out their head coach, a playoff team does so 2077 01:40:12,640 --> 01:40:14,840 Speaker 10: if you're the Patriots, if you don't move quickly on 2078 01:40:14,880 --> 01:40:17,479 Speaker 10: this situation, you're the bell of the ball right now, 2079 01:40:17,600 --> 01:40:19,599 Speaker 10: right you have may you have one hundred and thirty 2080 01:40:19,600 --> 01:40:22,400 Speaker 10: million dollars in cap space, and overnight you can just 2081 01:40:22,479 --> 01:40:26,479 Speaker 10: become another job. And so they moved quickly on their guy, 2082 01:40:26,560 --> 01:40:29,400 Speaker 10: and he's such a qualified candidate that I just have 2083 01:40:29,439 --> 01:40:32,719 Speaker 10: a real tough time being super angry about it because 2084 01:40:32,720 --> 01:40:35,160 Speaker 10: it's it's not like you gave the job to somebody 2085 01:40:35,240 --> 01:40:36,479 Speaker 10: that wasn't quite nice. 2086 01:40:37,479 --> 01:40:40,240 Speaker 4: I know that people said as for like two weeks 2087 01:40:40,240 --> 01:40:42,559 Speaker 4: that this has been a done deal. But you know, 2088 01:40:42,760 --> 01:40:45,800 Speaker 4: a new team on the block, like the Cowboys or 2089 01:40:46,120 --> 01:40:48,559 Speaker 4: you know the Raiders, you know, when they just fired 2090 01:40:48,560 --> 01:40:51,880 Speaker 4: their head coach last week, what if they came in 2091 01:40:51,920 --> 01:40:54,160 Speaker 4: at the last minute and just gave him the world 2092 01:40:54,200 --> 01:40:56,559 Speaker 4: and made him a deal that he just couldn't refuse 2093 01:40:56,640 --> 01:40:59,600 Speaker 4: for himself and his family. I gotta admit I was 2094 01:40:59,680 --> 01:41:02,000 Speaker 4: starting to get a little worried about that over the weekend, 2095 01:41:02,360 --> 01:41:05,400 Speaker 4: you know, and that was they were up against that. 2096 01:41:05,600 --> 01:41:09,200 Speaker 4: So you can't fault a team for knowing what they 2097 01:41:09,240 --> 01:41:11,360 Speaker 4: want to do and then going and doing it. And 2098 01:41:12,600 --> 01:41:16,519 Speaker 4: you know, in this case, it was Mike Vrabel. He's 2099 01:41:16,680 --> 01:41:20,320 Speaker 4: a good coach, he's familiar with the team, he's familiar 2100 01:41:20,400 --> 01:41:22,360 Speaker 4: with the area. It just made too much sense. 2101 01:41:22,720 --> 01:41:24,799 Speaker 6: I kind of wonder about John Harball when that process 2102 01:41:24,800 --> 01:41:26,599 Speaker 6: happened with the Ravens as because he was a special 2103 01:41:26,600 --> 01:41:27,840 Speaker 6: teams coordinator. 2104 01:41:27,439 --> 01:41:29,479 Speaker 3: Right, like, like, how did that happen? You know, that's 2105 01:41:29,560 --> 01:41:31,680 Speaker 3: kind of a unique leap, and that doesn't happen he. 2106 01:41:31,640 --> 01:41:33,880 Speaker 5: Spent one year. I think that was kind of like 2107 01:41:34,120 --> 01:41:36,360 Speaker 5: to get to the head coach level, as like in 2108 01:41:36,400 --> 01:41:38,799 Speaker 5: a position coach, I think I want to say wide receivers, 2109 01:41:38,800 --> 01:41:41,479 Speaker 5: but don't hold me to that. And I think Bill 2110 01:41:41,479 --> 01:41:44,080 Speaker 5: Belichick was instrumental in getting him at that job because 2111 01:41:44,080 --> 01:41:46,679 Speaker 5: of his connection with I think ozzieknews him at the time. Yeah, 2112 01:41:47,000 --> 01:41:49,680 Speaker 5: with the Ravens, and that was a big his recommendation 2113 01:41:50,360 --> 01:41:51,160 Speaker 5: was a big part of that. 2114 01:41:51,360 --> 01:41:53,640 Speaker 4: Thanks for the call, Damon. We'll go down to Arkansas. 2115 01:41:53,800 --> 01:41:58,200 Speaker 4: What's up, Jay, Jay? 2116 01:42:00,320 --> 01:42:01,639 Speaker 26: Hey gurning guys. 2117 01:42:03,640 --> 01:42:07,320 Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, we can what's going on over there? You 2118 01:42:07,360 --> 01:42:09,479 Speaker 4: are you changing a tire? What are you doing? 2119 01:42:11,320 --> 01:42:12,639 Speaker 29: Let me let me change mind? 2120 01:42:14,240 --> 01:42:19,559 Speaker 4: All right, that's much better. I didn't do that. I 2121 01:42:19,640 --> 01:42:25,439 Speaker 4: didn't do that. While is getting to get his act together. 2122 01:42:25,600 --> 01:42:28,600 Speaker 4: We'll go to Delaware, Rodney. What's up, Rodney? 2123 01:42:29,360 --> 01:42:32,720 Speaker 15: Hey, guys, how are you doing good? 2124 01:42:33,720 --> 01:42:33,920 Speaker 29: Yeah? 2125 01:42:34,080 --> 01:42:36,040 Speaker 9: So I was just calling because I was, like, you know, 2126 01:42:36,080 --> 01:42:38,479 Speaker 9: I wasn't. I was against the Mike Braver hired at first. 2127 01:42:38,760 --> 01:42:41,920 Speaker 9: But now just listening to his speech, I'm just happy that, 2128 01:42:42,080 --> 01:42:44,479 Speaker 9: you know, I think he's I think we're going to 2129 01:42:44,520 --> 01:42:47,240 Speaker 9: get us back to like the physical football. 2130 01:42:47,320 --> 01:42:47,960 Speaker 26: That's what I just. 2131 01:42:47,920 --> 01:42:50,200 Speaker 9: Want back to, you know, physical Patriot football. 2132 01:42:50,400 --> 01:42:50,960 Speaker 27: Thanks gosh. 2133 01:42:51,320 --> 01:42:55,120 Speaker 4: Okay, Rodney thinks physicality is coming back to New England. 2134 01:42:55,360 --> 01:42:57,360 Speaker 3: Smash mouths definitely listen. I didn't. 2135 01:42:57,439 --> 01:43:00,400 Speaker 4: I don't think the Patriots have even last year. Weren't physical. 2136 01:43:00,439 --> 01:43:02,519 Speaker 4: I think they I don't think they lack the effort 2137 01:43:02,600 --> 01:43:05,720 Speaker 4: wasn't it was there. Yeah, this is a talent thing, 2138 01:43:06,000 --> 01:43:08,480 Speaker 4: so let's be physical, but us also be talented. 2139 01:43:09,080 --> 01:43:11,799 Speaker 10: You know, that's fair. But I think effort and finish 2140 01:43:11,880 --> 01:43:13,439 Speaker 10: for like the two things that he said are going 2141 01:43:13,520 --> 01:43:15,400 Speaker 10: to be no negotiables among other things. 2142 01:43:15,520 --> 01:43:15,720 Speaker 8: Yep. 2143 01:43:16,000 --> 01:43:19,519 Speaker 10: And defensively, Like that's a lot of defense is effort 2144 01:43:19,560 --> 01:43:21,880 Speaker 10: and finish. You know, you can if you can get 2145 01:43:21,920 --> 01:43:25,000 Speaker 10: to a baseline of that defensively, then you can be 2146 01:43:25,200 --> 01:43:28,559 Speaker 10: like an above average defense simply just off of effort 2147 01:43:28,720 --> 01:43:31,120 Speaker 10: and finish and being prepared. 2148 01:43:30,680 --> 01:43:35,120 Speaker 5: And I to that wrinkles, you know, like like Bill 2149 01:43:35,160 --> 01:43:38,080 Speaker 5: always did. Whereas the defense will look better than it 2150 01:43:38,120 --> 01:43:41,960 Speaker 5: probably is because they'll be able to limit the damage. 2151 01:43:42,000 --> 01:43:44,599 Speaker 5: You know. One of the things that I bitched about 2152 01:43:44,640 --> 01:43:47,160 Speaker 5: all year was it seems whenever they got off to 2153 01:43:47,200 --> 01:43:49,880 Speaker 5: a bad start defensively, they were going to have a 2154 01:43:49,880 --> 01:43:52,200 Speaker 5: bad game defensively because they weren't gonna be able to adjust. 2155 01:43:52,280 --> 01:43:54,240 Speaker 5: I think Rabel will be able to adjust. 2156 01:43:54,520 --> 01:43:59,439 Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, So we're uh in the process of waiting 2157 01:43:59,520 --> 01:44:02,800 Speaker 4: for head coach Mike Rabel. From what I understand, they 2158 01:44:02,960 --> 01:44:04,160 Speaker 4: went to get a bite of you. 2159 01:44:04,280 --> 01:44:07,080 Speaker 5: Do you think bring food for the show? I think 2160 01:44:07,080 --> 01:44:09,200 Speaker 5: he should, right, maybe a little chicken parm like. 2161 01:44:09,960 --> 01:44:13,320 Speaker 4: You know, it's not that because I think he needs 2162 01:44:13,360 --> 01:44:15,880 Speaker 4: to ingratiate himself with us, don't you think, Well. 2163 01:44:16,400 --> 01:44:18,800 Speaker 5: If he wants to succeed, he had no where to stop, 2164 01:44:19,640 --> 01:44:23,920 Speaker 5: needs crew on your side, walking with pizza pizza time. 2165 01:44:24,439 --> 01:44:25,920 Speaker 3: It's like, hey, Paul, tell him about this. 2166 01:44:26,600 --> 01:44:29,480 Speaker 5: I don't know if you've heard of this play. 2167 01:44:29,600 --> 01:44:30,120 Speaker 3: I've heard him. 2168 01:44:30,160 --> 01:44:30,400 Speaker 8: Yeah. 2169 01:44:30,960 --> 01:44:35,440 Speaker 4: Uh, Jay's back on the line in Arkansas. What's up? Jay? 2170 01:44:35,680 --> 01:44:40,439 Speaker 29: Hey, guys start about the audio there. Hey the caller 2171 01:44:41,520 --> 01:44:45,320 Speaker 29: one or two before. Uh, you guys got just talking 2172 01:44:45,320 --> 01:44:47,200 Speaker 29: about the process. And that's that's just what I had 2173 01:44:47,200 --> 01:44:50,080 Speaker 29: a couple of comments on. I was just gonna throw in, 2174 01:44:52,479 --> 01:44:54,519 Speaker 29: you know, and I'd love to hear you guys just 2175 01:44:54,560 --> 01:44:58,200 Speaker 29: talk about the broader, you know, impact of the local 2176 01:44:58,240 --> 01:45:00,639 Speaker 29: media there at some point in the office. Maybe it's 2177 01:45:00,640 --> 01:45:03,439 Speaker 29: for a good slow day, who knows, But you know, 2178 01:45:03,520 --> 01:45:06,120 Speaker 29: I just really didn't appreciate from the get go. I 2179 01:45:06,120 --> 01:45:08,080 Speaker 29: think it was Albert Breer I heard first call this 2180 01:45:08,320 --> 01:45:11,280 Speaker 29: a sham process. Uh, And then of course it sort 2181 01:45:11,280 --> 01:45:13,960 Speaker 29: of catches some steam and other people use that word. 2182 01:45:14,880 --> 01:45:17,799 Speaker 29: I'm with you, guys, just like, what do you expect 2183 01:45:17,800 --> 01:45:23,400 Speaker 29: them to do? How many interview processes you know, in 2184 01:45:23,560 --> 01:45:25,920 Speaker 29: in the rest of the UH, in the rest of 2185 01:45:25,960 --> 01:45:28,920 Speaker 29: the world. Do you not already have a little bit 2186 01:45:28,960 --> 01:45:31,160 Speaker 29: of an idea who you want to go after? And 2187 01:45:31,240 --> 01:45:35,280 Speaker 29: so they followed the rule as it's laid out to 2188 01:45:35,400 --> 01:45:40,240 Speaker 29: be followed. And you know, if they had waited around 2189 01:45:40,320 --> 01:45:44,479 Speaker 29: and not gotten vrabel, they would have been crucified by 2190 01:45:44,479 --> 01:45:47,160 Speaker 29: the same people who were, you know, criticizing them for 2191 01:45:47,200 --> 01:45:49,280 Speaker 29: the for the process they went through. I don't know 2192 01:45:49,280 --> 01:45:51,640 Speaker 29: what else they're supposed to do. I'd like to hear 2193 01:45:51,680 --> 01:45:54,759 Speaker 29: from you guys. Another thing that I often hear people 2194 01:45:54,800 --> 01:45:58,960 Speaker 29: talk about, but would like to know if it's actually 2195 01:45:59,000 --> 01:46:02,479 Speaker 29: if it actually happens, This idea of having all these 2196 01:46:02,520 --> 01:46:07,080 Speaker 29: interviews to gather intel and to gather you know, ideas 2197 01:46:07,160 --> 01:46:08,880 Speaker 29: and things like that. I mean, do we really know 2198 01:46:09,000 --> 01:46:11,040 Speaker 29: that other teams have done and. 2199 01:46:10,960 --> 01:46:11,720 Speaker 8: To do that? 2200 01:46:13,080 --> 01:46:16,720 Speaker 29: You know, would would Robert and Jonathan Craft and you 2201 01:46:16,760 --> 01:46:21,080 Speaker 29: know a couple of others be adept enough to say, 2202 01:46:21,160 --> 01:46:23,960 Speaker 29: you know, hey, Mike, we heard from this candidate over 2203 01:46:24,000 --> 01:46:27,320 Speaker 29: here about how they run the UH. You know, they're 2204 01:46:27,800 --> 01:46:30,840 Speaker 29: you know, shotgun formations. You know, we'd like to you 2205 01:46:30,920 --> 01:46:34,240 Speaker 29: to incorporate that into your your offense. You know what 2206 01:46:35,120 --> 01:46:36,559 Speaker 29: you know, is that really a thing or is that 2207 01:46:36,680 --> 01:46:39,280 Speaker 29: just a thing that's a nice talking point for everybody. 2208 01:46:39,680 --> 01:46:42,720 Speaker 5: Anyway, I think it's really a thing. Have you ever 2209 01:46:42,760 --> 01:46:46,200 Speaker 5: talked to anybody and have them, okay, have them tell 2210 01:46:46,200 --> 01:46:47,320 Speaker 5: you something that you didn't know? 2211 01:46:47,760 --> 01:46:50,240 Speaker 4: I have, Yeah, a lot. Absolutely. 2212 01:46:50,840 --> 01:46:53,719 Speaker 5: You know. I'd like to think I'm learning all the time, 2213 01:46:54,160 --> 01:46:56,479 Speaker 5: and I think that those are opportunities to learn stuff. 2214 01:46:57,840 --> 01:46:59,920 Speaker 5: I think Jay was sort of taking it super literally, 2215 01:47:00,320 --> 01:47:02,920 Speaker 5: like you talk to someone and then you tell Mike 2216 01:47:03,040 --> 01:47:05,400 Speaker 5: this is what you need. No, I think it can 2217 01:47:05,439 --> 01:47:08,479 Speaker 5: be as simple as let's go to Byron Leftwich. Okay, 2218 01:47:09,320 --> 01:47:11,840 Speaker 5: maybe you have you sit him down and this guy 2219 01:47:11,920 --> 01:47:14,160 Speaker 5: really impresses you and you're like, wow, this guy is 2220 01:47:14,200 --> 01:47:18,160 Speaker 5: a very bright offensive mind. He's creative. Hey, if we 2221 01:47:18,200 --> 01:47:20,600 Speaker 5: need an offensive coordinator this, we could do worse than this, 2222 01:47:21,240 --> 01:47:23,760 Speaker 5: or down the road if it doesn't work out with 2223 01:47:23,840 --> 01:47:27,080 Speaker 5: Mike Rabel, I think we could do a lot worse 2224 01:47:27,120 --> 01:47:31,280 Speaker 5: than Byron Leftwich getting a head coaching opportunity. Again, I'm 2225 01:47:31,280 --> 01:47:35,479 Speaker 5: just using That's how it works. You generate like sort 2226 01:47:35,520 --> 01:47:40,639 Speaker 5: of a rolodex of information. It's not tangible like Evan's 2227 01:47:40,680 --> 01:47:44,800 Speaker 5: coming up with, you know, creative sale routes that that 2228 01:47:44,960 --> 01:47:48,640 Speaker 5: are gonna get you know, what's perfect against Tennessee's defense. Like, 2229 01:47:48,920 --> 01:47:50,840 Speaker 5: that's not how That's not what we're talking about. We're 2230 01:47:50,840 --> 01:47:56,280 Speaker 5: talking about relationships in philosophy, philosophy and figuring out how 2231 01:47:56,360 --> 01:48:00,400 Speaker 5: other organizations do their business. And they say, wow, we 2232 01:48:00,439 --> 01:48:02,800 Speaker 5: don't do it that way. How do you do analytics? 2233 01:48:02,920 --> 01:48:05,320 Speaker 5: How do you incorporate your analytics into your real life 2234 01:48:05,560 --> 01:48:09,439 Speaker 5: football operation? Oh, we do it this way. Well, you 2235 01:48:09,439 --> 01:48:11,200 Speaker 5: guys do it that. Wow, I never thought of that. 2236 01:48:11,200 --> 01:48:13,400 Speaker 5: That might be an interesting Maybe we can change some 2237 01:48:13,439 --> 01:48:14,120 Speaker 5: of the things. 2238 01:48:13,880 --> 01:48:14,320 Speaker 10: That we do. 2239 01:48:14,560 --> 01:48:17,040 Speaker 5: It's not really specific because I think that would be 2240 01:48:17,120 --> 01:48:22,200 Speaker 5: kind of proprietary information. It's relationships and philosophies, and I 2241 01:48:22,240 --> 01:48:25,240 Speaker 5: think by not talking to as many people as you can, 2242 01:48:25,920 --> 01:48:27,320 Speaker 5: you close off opportunities. 2243 01:48:27,360 --> 01:48:29,000 Speaker 10: That's all is at the end of the world. 2244 01:48:29,080 --> 01:48:33,160 Speaker 5: Now, absolutely not. They had a guy they identified to 2245 01:48:33,240 --> 01:48:34,960 Speaker 5: your point, Fred, maybe they feared that they were going 2246 01:48:35,000 --> 01:48:37,360 Speaker 5: to lose him if they dragged their feet at all. 2247 01:48:37,479 --> 01:48:40,280 Speaker 5: I don't think that was an option, especially based on 2248 01:48:40,640 --> 01:48:43,840 Speaker 5: Ian Rappaport over the weekend, saying he told Tom Brady, Yeah, 2249 01:48:43,840 --> 01:48:46,120 Speaker 5: I don't worry about it. Yeah, I'm not going anywhere. 2250 01:48:46,160 --> 01:48:48,680 Speaker 5: I'm going to the Patriots. Yeah, but the Patriots might 2251 01:48:48,720 --> 01:48:51,639 Speaker 5: not want to take that chance knowing it, so they went. 2252 01:48:51,720 --> 01:48:53,519 Speaker 5: They identified the guy they wanted, they got them. I 2253 01:48:53,600 --> 01:48:56,800 Speaker 5: have no issues with that, but I do understand the 2254 01:48:56,880 --> 01:49:01,800 Speaker 5: counter of not holding interviews deprives you of opportunities. 2255 01:49:02,120 --> 01:49:02,360 Speaker 10: That's all. 2256 01:49:02,400 --> 01:49:05,680 Speaker 5: I don't know what, how much, how important, but opportunities. 2257 01:49:06,080 --> 01:49:08,720 Speaker 5: It's true like the Chargers did last year famously with 2258 01:49:08,800 --> 01:49:13,240 Speaker 5: Jim Harbaugh. They identified him right off the top, he 2259 01:49:13,439 --> 01:49:17,280 Speaker 5: was their guy, and they still interviewed twelve guys. Now 2260 01:49:17,439 --> 01:49:19,800 Speaker 5: you might say, well, they didn't know for sure if 2261 01:49:19,800 --> 01:49:22,840 Speaker 5: they were going to get Jim Harbaugh, so they had 2262 01:49:22,840 --> 01:49:25,920 Speaker 5: to keep interviewing people. That might be true, because I 2263 01:49:25,960 --> 01:49:27,840 Speaker 5: think Hardball was kind of playing hardball with them a 2264 01:49:27,880 --> 01:49:28,960 Speaker 5: little bit last year. 2265 01:49:29,640 --> 01:49:30,760 Speaker 3: I just think keep doing it now. 2266 01:49:30,840 --> 01:49:33,639 Speaker 6: This is the time too, with offensive coaches defensive coaches, 2267 01:49:33,680 --> 01:49:36,960 Speaker 6: you know, find who those young hotshots are behind the scenes. 2268 01:49:37,000 --> 01:49:38,720 Speaker 6: This is I mean, you know, maybe they're not going 2269 01:49:38,760 --> 01:49:40,400 Speaker 6: to come in and tell you how to change your program, 2270 01:49:40,400 --> 01:49:42,280 Speaker 6: but there might be some young guys who you know 2271 01:49:42,439 --> 01:49:45,320 Speaker 6: from experience being around the league of this guy's a young, 2272 01:49:45,600 --> 01:49:47,800 Speaker 6: smart guy, like he's headed places. 2273 01:49:47,439 --> 01:49:48,840 Speaker 3: And you know he might be in between a job. 2274 01:49:48,880 --> 01:49:50,000 Speaker 3: Go get him. Those kind of guys. 2275 01:49:50,040 --> 01:49:52,040 Speaker 5: Well, even if you're asking like how many how many 2276 01:49:52,080 --> 01:49:54,719 Speaker 5: guys did Mike Rabel mention today that he learned from? 2277 01:49:55,560 --> 01:49:57,479 Speaker 5: So maybe you're talking to someone and they're telling you 2278 01:49:57,520 --> 01:50:01,160 Speaker 5: all these guys they learned from what I one of 2279 01:50:01,160 --> 01:50:05,160 Speaker 5: those guys sort of spark something in your mind, you know, 2280 01:50:05,200 --> 01:50:08,040 Speaker 5: five minutes okay, and you can get you know, so 2281 01:50:08,080 --> 01:50:10,920 Speaker 5: you get to talk to a guy and he knows 2282 01:50:11,360 --> 01:50:14,360 Speaker 5: this other guy who learned a lot from Maybe I 2283 01:50:14,439 --> 01:50:16,320 Speaker 5: might talk to that guy. You know, like there's a 2284 01:50:16,439 --> 01:50:19,520 Speaker 5: million different ways you can get an avenue to information. 2285 01:50:20,120 --> 01:50:25,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, I agreed, And that's that's another by product, a 2286 01:50:25,200 --> 01:50:27,519 Speaker 4: good bye product of the ruty rule is just that 2287 01:50:27,640 --> 01:50:31,760 Speaker 4: exposure to new ideas, exposure to new people. And I think, 2288 01:50:32,160 --> 01:50:34,160 Speaker 4: you know, Evan said it, I think this process of 2289 01:50:34,200 --> 01:50:36,160 Speaker 4: the O C and d C is going to take 2290 01:50:36,280 --> 01:50:39,840 Speaker 4: longer than the head coach. I think they might slow 2291 01:50:39,920 --> 01:50:42,599 Speaker 4: this one down a little bit to to get more. 2292 01:50:42,520 --> 01:50:43,400 Speaker 10: People right to the fire. 2293 01:50:43,439 --> 01:50:45,639 Speaker 5: Right now, I want to know it. 2294 01:50:45,960 --> 01:50:48,160 Speaker 4: But you know, let's not I don't want to ask 2295 01:50:48,160 --> 01:50:50,000 Speaker 4: the same questions that we're asked up there. I want to, 2296 01:50:50,240 --> 01:50:52,280 Speaker 4: you know, ask other things. 2297 01:50:52,360 --> 01:50:54,360 Speaker 5: I'm sure that you'll ask. 2298 01:50:54,439 --> 01:50:56,160 Speaker 4: You can ask the first question. 2299 01:50:56,520 --> 01:50:59,720 Speaker 5: No, no, no, no, you're you're the boss man. The reason 2300 01:50:59,760 --> 01:51:02,360 Speaker 5: why it's his boss man on your on your tiron 2301 01:51:02,479 --> 01:51:03,559 Speaker 5: up there? All right, bossman. 2302 01:51:04,200 --> 01:51:09,400 Speaker 4: Well, we'll keep going if I if if Rabel walks in, 2303 01:51:09,680 --> 01:51:12,120 Speaker 4: you know, and I have to cut you off, don't 2304 01:51:12,160 --> 01:51:17,400 Speaker 4: take it personally. Uh. Donovan from Delaware has already hung up. Uh, 2305 01:51:17,680 --> 01:51:21,439 Speaker 4: So we'll go to New York where Andre is calling from. 2306 01:51:21,640 --> 01:51:22,400 Speaker 4: What's up Andre? 2307 01:51:23,320 --> 01:51:24,800 Speaker 27: Hey, Hill, let's tell you're doing good. 2308 01:51:25,760 --> 01:51:28,280 Speaker 30: I had a quick question I wanted to ask. I 2309 01:51:28,360 --> 01:51:30,760 Speaker 30: know we're still early in the off season, but I 2310 01:51:30,880 --> 01:51:34,599 Speaker 30: had a question about the draft. I know that obviously 2311 01:51:34,720 --> 01:51:37,479 Speaker 30: it matters what we get in the free agency, but 2312 01:51:38,080 --> 01:51:40,000 Speaker 30: I wanted to know what you guys think we should 2313 01:51:40,040 --> 01:51:44,280 Speaker 30: get out of a Duke Carter McMillan or an offensive lineman. 2314 01:51:44,800 --> 01:51:47,760 Speaker 4: Well, there's another guy that I've been intrigued with a 2315 01:51:47,800 --> 01:51:48,160 Speaker 4: little bit. 2316 01:51:49,439 --> 01:51:53,400 Speaker 3: How did you know how did you know defensive linement? 2317 01:51:53,520 --> 01:51:55,720 Speaker 5: Well strikes me as a Fred kirsch Kind of guy. 2318 01:51:55,880 --> 01:51:59,639 Speaker 4: Well, no, but Mason Graham is an interior linement from. 2319 01:51:59,600 --> 01:52:00,920 Speaker 5: Michigan defensive lineman. 2320 01:52:01,000 --> 01:52:04,519 Speaker 4: Defensive lineman, right, and uh, from what I understand, he's 2321 01:52:04,680 --> 01:52:06,400 Speaker 4: he's got this suddenness to his game. 2322 01:52:06,720 --> 01:52:07,360 Speaker 5: He's player. 2323 01:52:07,560 --> 01:52:11,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, like he can impact you know, the rush from inside. 2324 01:52:11,160 --> 01:52:14,439 Speaker 4: He's that quick. And I'm worried about Barmore. 2325 01:52:14,640 --> 01:52:17,559 Speaker 5: Michigan won a handful of games with absolutely no offense 2326 01:52:17,640 --> 01:52:19,360 Speaker 5: to speak of, and the reason they did that is 2327 01:52:19,400 --> 01:52:20,639 Speaker 5: guys like Mason g Yeah. 2328 01:52:20,680 --> 01:52:24,120 Speaker 4: So, and I'm worried about Barmore if he doesn't come back. 2329 01:52:24,200 --> 01:52:26,400 Speaker 4: And if he does come back, imagine teaming him up 2330 01:52:26,439 --> 01:52:27,240 Speaker 4: with Mason Graham. 2331 01:52:29,080 --> 01:52:33,680 Speaker 5: I just think it's and I know I've said this 2332 01:52:33,760 --> 01:52:36,040 Speaker 5: a million times. They can literally pick anything they need 2333 01:52:36,080 --> 01:52:38,160 Speaker 5: to pick the best player, and I wouldn't. And if 2334 01:52:38,160 --> 01:52:39,960 Speaker 5: they think that Mason Graham is that much better than 2335 01:52:40,000 --> 01:52:42,719 Speaker 5: anybody else by all means, I just think that would 2336 01:52:42,720 --> 01:52:47,400 Speaker 5: be less less of indeed than oh, yeah, wide receiver 2337 01:52:47,840 --> 01:52:51,760 Speaker 5: tackle A need they need defensive tackles. I would not 2338 01:52:52,120 --> 01:52:53,680 Speaker 5: sit here and say what do they do when they 2339 01:52:53,760 --> 01:52:56,360 Speaker 5: picked a guard? No, they need they need a good 2340 01:52:56,439 --> 01:52:59,839 Speaker 5: defensive tackle. And he's a good player, ye By all accounts, 2341 01:52:59,840 --> 01:53:02,360 Speaker 5: he's top five pick, top five talent anyway. 2342 01:53:03,320 --> 01:53:05,639 Speaker 4: But Abdual card is intriguing as well, you know, because 2343 01:53:05,680 --> 01:53:08,640 Speaker 4: he's got that special motor on the edge, and. 2344 01:53:08,760 --> 01:53:11,439 Speaker 3: I like me so I thought he was really impressive 2345 01:53:11,479 --> 01:53:13,800 Speaker 3: in that he's not getting the four. That's what I'm 2346 01:53:13,840 --> 01:53:14,280 Speaker 3: worried about. 2347 01:53:14,320 --> 01:53:18,080 Speaker 4: How okay, thanks Andre, Yeah. 2348 01:53:18,320 --> 01:53:20,479 Speaker 6: I just I said to Paul, you know, generally speaking, 2349 01:53:20,520 --> 01:53:22,559 Speaker 6: there's five main positions that you feel like you need 2350 01:53:22,680 --> 01:53:27,000 Speaker 6: right like quarterback, left tackle, wide receiver, elite corner, elite 2351 01:53:27,080 --> 01:53:31,400 Speaker 6: edge rusher, big five. Everybody wants that elite tackle right now. Well, 2352 01:53:31,439 --> 01:53:33,040 Speaker 6: if it's not there, then you might be able to 2353 01:53:33,080 --> 01:53:35,120 Speaker 6: get the defensive end with Abdual Carter. That might be 2354 01:53:35,200 --> 01:53:37,439 Speaker 6: the guy at the top that you just look, You're 2355 01:53:37,439 --> 01:53:38,800 Speaker 6: gonna have to figure it out. Maybe by the time 2356 01:53:38,840 --> 01:53:41,040 Speaker 6: you get there, you have some options on offensive line. 2357 01:53:41,320 --> 01:53:43,280 Speaker 6: I think we spent so much time focusing on tackle 2358 01:53:43,320 --> 01:53:45,040 Speaker 6: and wide receiver, which granted those are two of the 2359 01:53:45,120 --> 01:53:47,639 Speaker 6: other open spots, but do either one of those one 2360 01:53:47,720 --> 01:53:48,439 Speaker 6: makes sense at four. 2361 01:53:48,600 --> 01:53:50,640 Speaker 5: I kind of think I'd agree with Mike. I think 2362 01:53:50,680 --> 01:53:53,200 Speaker 5: there's a gap between you a guy Mason Graham and 2363 01:53:53,280 --> 01:54:00,640 Speaker 5: Abdull Carter and McMillan, you know, in Banks or Campbell. Well, 2364 01:54:00,800 --> 01:54:04,639 Speaker 5: I think the defensive end and tackle of better players 2365 01:54:04,880 --> 01:54:06,800 Speaker 5: than the wide receiver offensive. 2366 01:54:06,640 --> 01:54:08,000 Speaker 6: And just what Rabel said, I mean, that was part 2367 01:54:08,040 --> 01:54:09,479 Speaker 6: of we talked about the passing game. He talked about 2368 01:54:09,479 --> 01:54:12,000 Speaker 6: being able to affect the passer, you know, so that's 2369 01:54:12,040 --> 01:54:12,600 Speaker 6: a big part of it. 2370 01:54:12,680 --> 01:54:13,320 Speaker 3: That's a big part of it. 2371 01:54:13,400 --> 01:54:15,599 Speaker 6: So you have a chance to get somebody like Abdul Carter, 2372 01:54:15,720 --> 01:54:18,320 Speaker 6: who is going to be entrant in like instant rocket 2373 01:54:18,360 --> 01:54:19,200 Speaker 6: fuel for your pass. 2374 01:54:19,200 --> 01:54:21,360 Speaker 3: Rush, then you know, I think you got to get him. 2375 01:54:21,400 --> 01:54:22,400 Speaker 3: But I don't know if he's making. 2376 01:54:22,320 --> 01:54:30,559 Speaker 4: Moose for Brian's and Holbrook. Hey Brian, Hi, how. 2377 01:54:30,439 --> 01:54:31,080 Speaker 29: Are you guys doing? 2378 01:54:31,240 --> 01:54:34,880 Speaker 11: Sorry, I just was curious how m no. 2379 01:54:35,080 --> 01:54:39,240 Speaker 30: Reporter uh, when Rabel was doing the introduction press conference 2380 01:54:39,360 --> 01:54:42,240 Speaker 30: asked him if he will have final call or who 2381 01:54:42,280 --> 01:54:43,120 Speaker 30: will have final call? 2382 01:54:43,280 --> 01:54:46,840 Speaker 4: That was like the first question that Tom Curran asked it. 2383 01:54:47,520 --> 01:54:51,720 Speaker 5: Yeah he did, Yeah, he was kind of he was 2384 01:54:51,840 --> 01:54:55,880 Speaker 5: kind of noncommittal about the answer, which kind of worries 2385 01:54:55,920 --> 01:54:56,400 Speaker 5: me a little bit. 2386 01:54:56,480 --> 01:54:59,000 Speaker 4: Not gonna lie, well, I don't think he wants to 2387 01:54:59,040 --> 01:55:01,800 Speaker 4: get up there with people in the room and start 2388 01:55:02,600 --> 01:55:05,760 Speaker 4: throwing things around he made me feel better. Yeah, I 2389 01:55:06,080 --> 01:55:09,200 Speaker 4: think he's being a little bit diplomatic there, and but 2390 01:55:09,600 --> 01:55:13,040 Speaker 4: I I would I would venture to guess that that's 2391 01:55:13,080 --> 01:55:13,960 Speaker 4: going to be talked about. 2392 01:55:15,000 --> 01:55:19,280 Speaker 5: And I think that, you know, if it hasn't been determined, if. 2393 01:55:18,600 --> 01:55:20,560 Speaker 4: The reports are true that he's bringing in this guy 2394 01:55:20,840 --> 01:55:25,600 Speaker 4: that he likes, ye, that'll be him running personnel by proxy, 2395 01:55:25,800 --> 01:55:29,320 Speaker 4: Ryan Cowden that guy, because you know, I'm sure Wolf 2396 01:55:29,400 --> 01:55:31,920 Speaker 4: and this guy will be told to work together, but 2397 01:55:32,040 --> 01:55:34,920 Speaker 4: when there's a disagreement, it'll go to Vrabel and he'll 2398 01:55:35,000 --> 01:55:37,200 Speaker 4: be the arbiter and he'll side with his guy. 2399 01:55:37,520 --> 01:55:40,320 Speaker 6: Interesting, it's interesting, like for a coach, like what do 2400 01:55:40,360 --> 01:55:42,960 Speaker 6: you prefer as a personnel guy do you want? You know, 2401 01:55:43,000 --> 01:55:44,680 Speaker 6: Like it's just about seeing the game the same way 2402 01:55:44,720 --> 01:55:46,960 Speaker 6: and knowing what you want to run and if they 2403 01:55:47,000 --> 01:55:48,520 Speaker 6: can give you you know, it's just it's an interesting 2404 01:55:48,600 --> 01:55:51,320 Speaker 6: kind of relationship to establish with somebody, like you know, 2405 01:55:51,360 --> 01:55:53,240 Speaker 6: you find someone who really sees the game the same 2406 01:55:53,280 --> 01:55:55,320 Speaker 6: way as you, or you know, is it that much 2407 01:55:55,320 --> 01:55:56,800 Speaker 6: of it is that at that heart of a switch, 2408 01:55:56,840 --> 01:55:58,320 Speaker 6: if you go to a place and there's someone who's 2409 01:55:58,360 --> 01:56:00,760 Speaker 6: managing personnel already and has a system in. 2410 01:56:00,800 --> 01:56:02,920 Speaker 3: Place, and you say, look, he gets it. He does 2411 01:56:02,960 --> 01:56:04,120 Speaker 3: good players. I know good players. 2412 01:56:04,400 --> 01:56:06,400 Speaker 5: I just want the coach to have final say over 2413 01:56:06,480 --> 01:56:08,480 Speaker 5: the fifty three man roster. That's all like if you 2414 01:56:08,640 --> 01:56:11,760 Speaker 5: if you have to have another guy that has the 2415 01:56:11,920 --> 01:56:15,240 Speaker 5: actual final say in the draft or whether you know, 2416 01:56:15,400 --> 01:56:19,879 Speaker 5: signing someone or whatever, and that can be a collaborative process. 2417 01:56:19,920 --> 01:56:22,720 Speaker 5: To use that word that everybody sort of recoils at 2418 01:56:22,800 --> 01:56:26,760 Speaker 5: now from last year. But you gotta let the coach 2419 01:56:27,080 --> 01:56:27,800 Speaker 5: pick the players. 2420 01:56:28,720 --> 01:56:34,120 Speaker 4: I think, yeah, all right, I'm told he's about two 2421 01:56:34,160 --> 01:56:34,760 Speaker 4: minutes away. 2422 01:56:35,120 --> 01:56:37,840 Speaker 5: Evan's given as a two. And I don't think you're 2423 01:56:37,840 --> 01:56:38,879 Speaker 5: saying do something. 2424 01:56:39,120 --> 01:56:39,600 Speaker 8: He should be. 2425 01:56:40,720 --> 01:56:42,520 Speaker 4: I wonder what they had for lunch? What do you? 2426 01:56:42,640 --> 01:56:43,120 Speaker 4: What do you get? 2427 01:56:43,320 --> 01:56:43,880 Speaker 5: The first question? 2428 01:56:44,200 --> 01:56:46,280 Speaker 4: Shoot, sure, okay, what do you what do you give 2429 01:56:46,320 --> 01:56:48,280 Speaker 4: a guy who you just signed as your head coach? 2430 01:56:49,320 --> 01:56:50,640 Speaker 4: You don't have a lot of time. What do you 2431 01:56:50,680 --> 01:56:51,640 Speaker 4: what do you serve for lunch? 2432 01:56:51,760 --> 01:56:54,280 Speaker 6: Lobster bisk Like it's just like a nice little fill a, 2433 01:56:54,480 --> 01:56:56,480 Speaker 6: like like a couple of filats out, you know, like, yeah. 2434 01:56:56,400 --> 01:56:57,920 Speaker 5: I honestly have no idea. 2435 01:56:58,040 --> 01:57:03,080 Speaker 4: We're gonna find out. I'm gonna find out ere it comes. Okay, 2436 01:57:03,440 --> 01:57:05,040 Speaker 4: bring them in we're not going to take a break. 2437 01:57:05,040 --> 01:57:05,840 Speaker 5: Should we play the music. 2438 01:57:05,920 --> 01:57:07,480 Speaker 4: We'll just bring them right in. 2439 01:57:08,200 --> 01:57:10,760 Speaker 3: People experience the awkwardness in real time. 2440 01:57:11,360 --> 01:57:15,400 Speaker 4: Just bring them right in. Don't be nervous. 2441 01:57:15,600 --> 01:57:15,920 Speaker 3: Let's go. 2442 01:57:16,760 --> 01:57:17,080 Speaker 5: Let's go. 2443 01:57:17,280 --> 01:57:23,640 Speaker 4: You've done before doing. I love it all right, let's 2444 01:57:23,680 --> 01:57:29,480 Speaker 4: go sit down, Sit down. How many cameras do we need? 2445 01:57:30,200 --> 01:57:31,040 Speaker 4: Cameras everywhere? 2446 01:57:33,000 --> 01:57:36,360 Speaker 5: Okay, I've been billing you as the professional ballbuster, and 2447 01:57:36,640 --> 01:57:38,400 Speaker 5: of course you come in shooting. I love it. 2448 01:57:38,640 --> 01:57:39,160 Speaker 4: It's great. 2449 01:57:39,480 --> 01:57:39,880 Speaker 8: I love it. 2450 01:57:40,280 --> 01:57:45,080 Speaker 4: I tell a story when uh, it's like Golden Girls, 2451 01:57:45,120 --> 01:57:49,400 Speaker 4: don't do you remember after the Carolina we did that 2452 01:57:49,840 --> 01:57:52,800 Speaker 4: Three Games to Glory too, and you sat down with 2453 01:57:52,920 --> 01:57:55,160 Speaker 4: I think it was Givings and Branch and you did 2454 01:57:55,200 --> 01:57:58,760 Speaker 4: the director's cut. Then afterwards, I wanted you to look 2455 01:57:58,760 --> 01:58:00,400 Speaker 4: at something you started. What did you do this? Why 2456 01:58:00,440 --> 01:58:01,720 Speaker 4: did you do that? Why did you do that? You 2457 01:58:01,800 --> 01:58:05,880 Speaker 4: started like you and I love that. I'm oh you 2458 01:58:06,000 --> 01:58:08,200 Speaker 4: did it was great. We didn't take any of your advice, 2459 01:58:08,280 --> 01:58:11,280 Speaker 4: but it was fun, you know, but I like that. 2460 01:58:11,800 --> 01:58:13,560 Speaker 4: I like that about you, and I'm sure that you're 2461 01:58:13,600 --> 01:58:14,960 Speaker 4: going to bring a lot to the table. 2462 01:58:15,480 --> 01:58:18,400 Speaker 5: Uh you know that way, because you would have made 2463 01:58:18,400 --> 01:58:19,520 Speaker 5: it better but they were a little bit. 2464 01:58:19,480 --> 01:58:22,040 Speaker 4: Too too far in the process. I couldn't take advantage 2465 01:58:22,040 --> 01:58:25,680 Speaker 4: of it. So my first question to you is what 2466 01:58:26,000 --> 01:58:28,720 Speaker 4: what what gets served at lunch? To the new head 2467 01:58:28,800 --> 01:58:31,640 Speaker 4: coach of the New England Patriots, chicken salad, chicken salad. 2468 01:58:31,760 --> 01:58:36,040 Speaker 4: That it was quick, oh man, A little disappointed. 2469 01:58:36,480 --> 01:58:39,240 Speaker 15: How many along the interview process somebody asked me what 2470 01:58:39,480 --> 01:58:44,360 Speaker 15: I dislike about coaching football, and I said, outside of losing, 2471 01:58:44,480 --> 01:58:47,920 Speaker 15: I would say the abundance of food that's available at 2472 01:58:48,040 --> 01:58:53,760 Speaker 15: any given second. It's just like anything that you want, treats, snacks, chips, food, 2473 01:58:53,840 --> 01:58:57,080 Speaker 15: and I'm like, it's got to stop at some point 2474 01:58:57,080 --> 01:58:57,320 Speaker 15: in time. 2475 01:58:57,360 --> 01:58:58,520 Speaker 8: It's just like enough to know. 2476 01:58:58,760 --> 01:59:00,440 Speaker 5: I hear, because you know that was a bad part 2477 01:59:00,480 --> 01:59:02,760 Speaker 5: of the you know, we continue to well. 2478 01:59:02,680 --> 01:59:04,800 Speaker 4: Travel to all the all the games, and the amount 2479 01:59:04,840 --> 01:59:09,440 Speaker 4: of food that gets wasted it's unbelievable. Or eating eating, No, 2480 01:59:09,640 --> 01:59:11,680 Speaker 4: it's it's always there. And I tell people when we 2481 01:59:11,760 --> 01:59:14,600 Speaker 4: first hired, say you don't have to eat everything. You 2482 01:59:14,680 --> 01:59:17,120 Speaker 4: don't have to eat everything because they just keep serving 2483 01:59:17,160 --> 01:59:17,440 Speaker 4: it to you. 2484 01:59:17,680 --> 01:59:20,040 Speaker 5: So like this is one of our newer members, Mike do. 2485 01:59:20,120 --> 01:59:22,880 Speaker 8: So, who's welcome? Do you have her? 2486 01:59:23,040 --> 01:59:24,240 Speaker 3: Do you little you want to tell you. 2487 01:59:24,240 --> 01:59:26,360 Speaker 5: All right, this is one of his first purchases for 2488 01:59:26,480 --> 01:59:27,480 Speaker 5: his newborn my son. 2489 01:59:27,600 --> 01:59:31,280 Speaker 10: Now back in the day, he's fourteen sixteen, he's sixteen now, 2490 01:59:31,400 --> 01:59:32,240 Speaker 10: so I had to bring it in. 2491 01:59:33,160 --> 01:59:34,520 Speaker 5: So he's got a little bit of a man. 2492 01:59:36,760 --> 01:59:41,000 Speaker 8: Yeah, I would get probably both wore both. Wore one 2493 01:59:41,040 --> 01:59:44,040 Speaker 8: of those as well. A rookie on this one. 2494 01:59:44,200 --> 01:59:46,920 Speaker 5: No, he's been here since twenty nineteen, his first playoff 2495 01:59:46,960 --> 01:59:48,960 Speaker 5: game with us. You know, Fred and I used to 2496 01:59:49,040 --> 01:59:51,120 Speaker 5: just winning titles. His first playoff game. 2497 01:59:51,160 --> 01:59:53,280 Speaker 3: You beat us to get rid of me if you 2498 01:59:53,280 --> 01:59:53,480 Speaker 3: want to. 2499 01:59:53,800 --> 01:59:54,360 Speaker 10: So this is all. 2500 01:59:54,440 --> 01:59:56,840 Speaker 5: And then Evan Lazare is actually. 2501 01:59:58,160 --> 01:59:58,240 Speaker 28: Right. 2502 01:59:58,640 --> 02:00:00,640 Speaker 4: He's a resident ex no savant. 2503 02:00:00,760 --> 02:00:02,080 Speaker 10: He said he was gonna embarrass me. 2504 02:00:02,320 --> 02:00:05,520 Speaker 4: No, but no, seriously, this guy, if you want to 2505 02:00:06,120 --> 02:00:09,440 Speaker 4: just ask him, he'll he'll tell you gap or zone. 2506 02:00:10,880 --> 02:00:15,360 Speaker 15: Yeah, And if you listen to the press conference, I said, 2507 02:00:15,360 --> 02:00:17,560 Speaker 15: I would hope for versatility to be able to be 2508 02:00:17,640 --> 02:00:20,560 Speaker 15: able to have zone scheme. But then you know, when 2509 02:00:20,600 --> 02:00:23,240 Speaker 15: some of those penetrating fronts to be able to have 2510 02:00:23,360 --> 02:00:25,680 Speaker 15: some gap scheme and some double teams at the line 2511 02:00:25,720 --> 02:00:27,360 Speaker 15: of scrimmage, that that it's going to help some of 2512 02:00:27,400 --> 02:00:28,040 Speaker 15: that penetration. 2513 02:00:28,920 --> 02:00:30,640 Speaker 4: When I looked at Evan and he was like, so 2514 02:00:31,200 --> 02:00:32,919 Speaker 4: what would you what would you recommend? 2515 02:00:33,600 --> 02:00:36,400 Speaker 10: What would I recommend? Yeah, that's his job, that's not mine. 2516 02:00:37,520 --> 02:00:39,440 Speaker 4: I'm giving you what's your favorite run? 2517 02:00:39,560 --> 02:00:40,600 Speaker 8: What's your favorite run? 2518 02:00:41,160 --> 02:00:41,960 Speaker 10: My favorite run? 2519 02:00:42,240 --> 02:00:42,560 Speaker 4: Power? 2520 02:00:42,960 --> 02:00:49,280 Speaker 10: Power, pull the guard down, get downhill, maybe hit play 2521 02:00:49,320 --> 02:00:50,040 Speaker 10: action behind it. 2522 02:00:50,080 --> 02:00:52,080 Speaker 3: Everyone what now? 2523 02:00:52,280 --> 02:00:52,440 Speaker 8: Now? 2524 02:00:52,840 --> 02:00:54,640 Speaker 15: The thing is with power, we got to find a 2525 02:00:54,680 --> 02:00:56,280 Speaker 15: full back or we got to find a tight end 2526 02:00:56,320 --> 02:00:58,440 Speaker 15: that can move and get in some of those movements. 2527 02:00:58,480 --> 02:00:59,960 Speaker 8: But don't disagree. 2528 02:01:00,360 --> 02:01:02,200 Speaker 4: Can you bring yak Up Johnson back because he can 2529 02:01:02,280 --> 02:01:04,120 Speaker 4: speak German and that's one of our markets. 2530 02:01:04,240 --> 02:01:06,080 Speaker 8: Yeah, there's a lot of people down there in Tennessee 2531 02:01:06,160 --> 02:01:08,800 Speaker 8: that thought he was was pretty good too. Yeah. 2532 02:01:08,840 --> 02:01:09,680 Speaker 4: I like he's a good guy. 2533 02:01:10,000 --> 02:01:12,800 Speaker 8: Yeah, we're gonna find well, we'll find somebody that can 2534 02:01:12,880 --> 02:01:13,040 Speaker 8: do it. 2535 02:01:13,680 --> 02:01:16,640 Speaker 4: So like it's been a whirlwind, right uh huh Yeah, 2536 02:01:16,960 --> 02:01:18,920 Speaker 4: I like, have you had a chance to even just 2537 02:01:19,040 --> 02:01:20,720 Speaker 4: think about what's going on? You still know? 2538 02:01:20,880 --> 02:01:22,480 Speaker 15: And I think the problem was I had so much 2539 02:01:22,520 --> 02:01:24,600 Speaker 15: time yesterday to think about it that it was just 2540 02:01:24,720 --> 02:01:28,320 Speaker 15: like text messages coming in and it was almost like 2541 02:01:28,400 --> 02:01:29,240 Speaker 15: I was paralyzed. 2542 02:01:29,240 --> 02:01:31,160 Speaker 8: I didn't even know where to start to. 2543 02:01:31,240 --> 02:01:33,920 Speaker 15: Try to respond to anybody that was texting and so 2544 02:01:34,760 --> 02:01:36,720 Speaker 15: you know that that's going to take I don't even 2545 02:01:36,800 --> 02:01:38,720 Speaker 15: know how long. Yeah, just people that have had an 2546 02:01:38,720 --> 02:01:43,880 Speaker 15: impact or that we're texting and congratulations and you know, 2547 02:01:44,360 --> 02:01:47,160 Speaker 15: the one thing that you know, we this is exciting, 2548 02:01:47,240 --> 02:01:49,280 Speaker 15: but we also want to make sure that you know 2549 02:01:49,360 --> 02:01:51,760 Speaker 15: we have a we have a small circle, and that 2550 02:01:52,160 --> 02:01:53,920 Speaker 15: we have a certain amount of people that we trust. 2551 02:01:53,960 --> 02:01:57,120 Speaker 15: And I try to explain that to the players, that 2552 02:01:57,360 --> 02:01:59,760 Speaker 15: that nobody texts you when you lose, right, and so 2553 02:02:00,360 --> 02:02:02,680 Speaker 15: you have a tough loss or a tough game, and 2554 02:02:02,800 --> 02:02:05,720 Speaker 15: those people that reach out to you, then I always say, 2555 02:02:05,800 --> 02:02:08,400 Speaker 15: when we start winning, you remember who those people were, 2556 02:02:08,440 --> 02:02:11,640 Speaker 15: because the text messages start to go up when you win. 2557 02:02:12,000 --> 02:02:14,240 Speaker 15: And so in the request, it's a good reminder that 2558 02:02:14,680 --> 02:02:17,560 Speaker 15: the people that that are there when when you're not 2559 02:02:17,680 --> 02:02:20,600 Speaker 15: at your best should be the ones that are there 2560 02:02:20,640 --> 02:02:22,120 Speaker 15: when you're at your best. You even though where you're 2561 02:02:22,120 --> 02:02:27,360 Speaker 15: gonna live yet no Patriot Place. I stayed in a 2562 02:02:27,440 --> 02:02:29,440 Speaker 15: nice hotel when we were here for the Hall of Fame. 2563 02:02:29,600 --> 02:02:30,960 Speaker 8: So I'm sure I. 2564 02:02:31,240 --> 02:02:33,480 Speaker 5: Talk a little bit better about Patriot Place nowadays than 2565 02:02:33,520 --> 02:02:33,880 Speaker 5: you used to. 2566 02:02:34,840 --> 02:02:36,720 Speaker 6: Is that was that like did I did I talk 2567 02:02:36,920 --> 02:02:40,120 Speaker 6: negatively about the Patriot away that he was critical of it. 2568 02:02:40,320 --> 02:02:45,240 Speaker 4: No, it was just like that was a different role. 2569 02:02:45,520 --> 02:02:48,320 Speaker 15: Like even Robert and I talk about that like that 2570 02:02:48,520 --> 02:02:51,400 Speaker 15: was trying to do my role as a union rep 2571 02:02:51,560 --> 02:02:54,720 Speaker 15: and on the executive committee and that was my obligation. 2572 02:02:54,880 --> 02:02:57,840 Speaker 3: And now we got a different Yeah. 2573 02:02:57,920 --> 02:03:00,960 Speaker 15: No, but we were very familiar with those and all 2574 02:03:01,000 --> 02:03:03,200 Speaker 15: the rules and everything, like, you know, we're gonna do 2575 02:03:03,280 --> 02:03:04,240 Speaker 15: what's best for the play. 2576 02:03:04,160 --> 02:03:08,840 Speaker 4: You mentioned, you know, helping helping out you and being 2577 02:03:08,920 --> 02:03:11,760 Speaker 4: there when things aren't good, when things are bad. Since 2578 02:03:11,800 --> 02:03:15,200 Speaker 4: you've been gone my role I run all the content here, 2579 02:03:15,600 --> 02:03:19,320 Speaker 4: you know, And no, no, I'm just content has changed 2580 02:03:19,600 --> 02:03:21,920 Speaker 4: in sports and in the NFL and as you know, 2581 02:03:22,560 --> 02:03:25,840 Speaker 4: Surf Melenda's friends with him back in Tennessee and the 2582 02:03:25,920 --> 02:03:27,800 Speaker 4: stuff they used to do with you, and you know, 2583 02:03:28,600 --> 02:03:31,520 Speaker 4: social media has changed. What's your view of like all 2584 02:03:31,600 --> 02:03:34,200 Speaker 4: of that stuff like players having their own social media, 2585 02:03:34,440 --> 02:03:37,680 Speaker 4: players having their own podcasts and all that stuff. Do 2586 02:03:37,760 --> 02:03:42,080 Speaker 4: you have you know, feelings about that or sure? 2587 02:03:42,120 --> 02:03:43,640 Speaker 8: I mean I think that that's a part of our 2588 02:03:43,720 --> 02:03:48,280 Speaker 8: life and it's something that we probably need to embrace. 2589 02:03:48,320 --> 02:03:53,000 Speaker 15: It's the way a lot of these younger kids communicate, 2590 02:03:55,480 --> 02:03:58,920 Speaker 15: and our involvement on social media may be less than 2591 02:03:59,000 --> 02:04:03,680 Speaker 15: what these kids are coming out. Yeah, and so I 2592 02:04:03,760 --> 02:04:07,000 Speaker 15: think that it's it can be positive if it's done correctly. 2593 02:04:08,840 --> 02:04:14,320 Speaker 15: That if you you know, trying to be focused on 2594 02:04:14,480 --> 02:04:18,680 Speaker 15: what you want to do and using the right intent. Yeah, 2595 02:04:19,200 --> 02:04:22,200 Speaker 15: that that that that can be positive. And the podcasts, 2596 02:04:22,440 --> 02:04:23,840 Speaker 15: you think you're careful, you know, I mean, you just 2597 02:04:23,920 --> 02:04:24,640 Speaker 15: have to be careful. 2598 02:04:25,240 --> 02:04:29,600 Speaker 8: They get very conversational and relaxed exactly. 2599 02:04:30,160 --> 02:04:33,440 Speaker 15: I mean again, like I've been on podcasts before, I've 2600 02:04:33,480 --> 02:04:36,240 Speaker 15: said things that into you know, you want to be funny, 2601 02:04:36,320 --> 02:04:39,200 Speaker 15: that ends up, you know, And I wasn't negative. 2602 02:04:39,320 --> 02:04:40,720 Speaker 8: It was just a joke that. 2603 02:04:40,800 --> 02:04:44,680 Speaker 15: Seems to have gone on. But you just have to 2604 02:04:44,720 --> 02:04:47,600 Speaker 15: be careful what that happened. What happens is is people 2605 02:04:47,680 --> 02:04:50,520 Speaker 15: cut out small snippets of a podcast and then the 2606 02:04:50,560 --> 02:04:52,280 Speaker 15: players like, well, I didn't say that, I didn't mean 2607 02:04:52,320 --> 02:04:55,280 Speaker 15: it like that, and I understand that they didn't. But 2608 02:04:55,440 --> 02:04:57,760 Speaker 15: after a course of forty five minutes, it's in a casion, 2609 02:04:57,800 --> 02:05:00,720 Speaker 15: it's a relaxed setting, and and then they left their 2610 02:05:00,760 --> 02:05:01,560 Speaker 15: guard down and then it. 2611 02:05:01,600 --> 02:05:02,520 Speaker 8: Becomes something bigger. 2612 02:05:02,640 --> 02:05:05,720 Speaker 15: So the biggest thing for me is the education, how 2613 02:05:05,800 --> 02:05:07,880 Speaker 15: to use it, how to communicate it, how to put 2614 02:05:08,000 --> 02:05:10,960 Speaker 15: your brand out there, your message, try to make it 2615 02:05:11,000 --> 02:05:13,480 Speaker 15: about the team and not so much I or me 2616 02:05:14,360 --> 02:05:15,280 Speaker 15: but we and us. 2617 02:05:15,720 --> 02:05:18,880 Speaker 5: Yeah, we've been there. Have you had much interaction with 2618 02:05:19,040 --> 02:05:21,520 Speaker 5: some of your former teammates, you know, talking about this 2619 02:05:21,840 --> 02:05:23,280 Speaker 5: leading up to taking the job. 2620 02:05:23,440 --> 02:05:29,080 Speaker 15: No, No, I meant I still text players and you know, teammates, 2621 02:05:30,320 --> 02:05:33,600 Speaker 15: but not a whole lot of as it related to 2622 02:05:33,720 --> 02:05:36,480 Speaker 15: this or you know, I was, I was busy, and 2623 02:05:36,880 --> 02:05:40,400 Speaker 15: you know, but obviously Teddy and Willie and Rosie and 2624 02:05:40,680 --> 02:05:45,560 Speaker 15: Seymour and you know Tom. You know, I've heard from 2625 02:05:45,560 --> 02:05:47,600 Speaker 15: a lot of guys and reached out and texted and 2626 02:05:48,640 --> 02:05:50,360 Speaker 15: you know, yeah, I asked. 2627 02:05:50,400 --> 02:05:51,640 Speaker 8: Proud of those relationships. 2628 02:05:51,880 --> 02:05:56,520 Speaker 5: I asked because Teddy was really supportive of you getting 2629 02:05:56,560 --> 02:06:00,320 Speaker 5: this job, and I thought he was really strong, even 2630 02:06:00,400 --> 02:06:02,960 Speaker 5: yesterday when it was already announced that you would you 2631 02:06:02,960 --> 02:06:05,280 Speaker 5: would agreed. I thought he was really a guy that 2632 02:06:05,520 --> 02:06:06,640 Speaker 5: seemed to be in your corner. 2633 02:06:07,120 --> 02:06:09,520 Speaker 4: Linebackers stick together, well. 2634 02:06:09,640 --> 02:06:12,720 Speaker 15: I meant, Teddy, uh, And Teddy was one of those 2635 02:06:12,760 --> 02:06:14,680 Speaker 15: guys that helped me become a pro. Like Teddy and 2636 02:06:14,720 --> 02:06:16,920 Speaker 15: I have different personalities, but we both believe in the 2637 02:06:17,000 --> 02:06:20,760 Speaker 15: same thing. And you know, Teddy taught me that that 2638 02:06:20,960 --> 02:06:23,680 Speaker 15: no is a complete sentence and I'll never forget that. 2639 02:06:24,080 --> 02:06:25,440 Speaker 8: And I said, well, why do you say no? 2640 02:06:26,240 --> 02:06:33,800 Speaker 4: See no, that's good. It makes the Teddy Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. 2641 02:06:34,000 --> 02:06:35,800 Speaker 6: How much difference do you feel this that your second 2642 02:06:35,840 --> 02:06:37,640 Speaker 6: time around here as you sit on the precipice is 2643 02:06:37,720 --> 02:06:39,160 Speaker 6: starting off another franchise. 2644 02:06:39,160 --> 02:06:42,720 Speaker 8: Here's the It's almost sometimes is it? Do you know 2645 02:06:42,880 --> 02:06:45,480 Speaker 8: too much about what the job is going to entail? 2646 02:06:45,720 --> 02:06:47,160 Speaker 8: And can that can be a positive? 2647 02:06:48,960 --> 02:06:52,560 Speaker 15: Because I did think that you get into you know, 2648 02:06:53,040 --> 02:06:55,680 Speaker 15: there was one option. It was the it was the 2649 02:06:55,760 --> 02:06:59,480 Speaker 15: Tennessee job the last time, and there may or may 2650 02:06:59,560 --> 02:07:03,040 Speaker 15: not have been more options now, So then you start 2651 02:07:03,120 --> 02:07:06,280 Speaker 15: looking and you's like, can you overthink something? And you 2652 02:07:06,360 --> 02:07:08,320 Speaker 15: never want your players to be in that position where 2653 02:07:08,320 --> 02:07:12,520 Speaker 15: they're overthinking something, right. It wants to be like I'm trained, prepared, 2654 02:07:13,160 --> 02:07:15,840 Speaker 15: I'm poised them instinctive, and I'm ready to go make 2655 02:07:15,880 --> 02:07:18,160 Speaker 15: a decision, as opposed. 2656 02:07:17,760 --> 02:07:21,480 Speaker 8: To well this that the other thing, what about this? 2657 02:07:21,720 --> 02:07:24,800 Speaker 15: And so there's just I think you're more experienced, But 2658 02:07:24,960 --> 02:07:29,760 Speaker 15: then that also leads into the ability to sometimes second guess, Yeah, 2659 02:07:29,800 --> 02:07:30,360 Speaker 15: what you're doing. 2660 02:07:30,480 --> 02:07:33,360 Speaker 4: I mean, I know personally, I rarely get things right 2661 02:07:33,400 --> 02:07:35,720 Speaker 4: the first time right. It takes me a couple of 2662 02:07:35,760 --> 02:07:38,080 Speaker 4: times to get it right. And I'm not saying you're 2663 02:07:38,240 --> 02:07:40,800 Speaker 4: like that, but having ben a head coach before and 2664 02:07:40,920 --> 02:07:44,720 Speaker 4: now this is your second stint, is there one thing 2665 02:07:44,840 --> 02:07:47,440 Speaker 4: you say, I'm going to do this differently this time 2666 02:07:47,480 --> 02:07:49,320 Speaker 4: where this is what I've learned that I want to 2667 02:07:49,360 --> 02:07:51,960 Speaker 4: incorporate that I wasn't able to the last time. 2668 02:07:52,120 --> 02:07:54,200 Speaker 15: No, not necessarily that, I mean, just making sure that 2669 02:07:54,280 --> 02:07:59,080 Speaker 15: their roster has competition throughout, you know, just the whatever 2670 02:07:59,200 --> 02:08:02,160 Speaker 15: you feel like is the front line starters and the backups, 2671 02:08:02,200 --> 02:08:04,680 Speaker 15: and making sure that everybody prepares us a starter each 2672 02:08:04,720 --> 02:08:09,360 Speaker 15: and every week. Try to keep everybody engaged and hope 2673 02:08:09,400 --> 02:08:13,280 Speaker 15: that they take advantage of opportunities. Talk about the connection piece, 2674 02:08:14,160 --> 02:08:16,920 Speaker 15: you know, that's critical and making sure that we have 2675 02:08:17,040 --> 02:08:20,480 Speaker 15: people that you know are willing to get to know 2676 02:08:20,600 --> 02:08:22,200 Speaker 15: the players another level. 2677 02:08:22,280 --> 02:08:25,000 Speaker 4: Even since when you were a player, Like practice, rules 2678 02:08:25,040 --> 02:08:28,560 Speaker 4: have change and it's tougher to hold these practices, especially 2679 02:08:28,680 --> 02:08:31,400 Speaker 4: during the season, where you keep you know, well, we 2680 02:08:31,480 --> 02:08:31,760 Speaker 4: want to. 2681 02:08:31,760 --> 02:08:33,960 Speaker 8: Be we want to be efficient and we want to 2682 02:08:34,000 --> 02:08:34,960 Speaker 8: practice with speed. 2683 02:08:35,760 --> 02:08:39,560 Speaker 15: Uh, so that the timing of different routes and coverages 2684 02:08:39,720 --> 02:08:42,280 Speaker 15: or pressures are there. I mean, I think great teams 2685 02:08:43,320 --> 02:08:44,720 Speaker 15: know how to practice. 2686 02:08:46,200 --> 02:08:49,080 Speaker 8: With without full pads. But there's a speed. They stay 2687 02:08:49,120 --> 02:08:52,320 Speaker 8: off the ground. So we'll practice. 2688 02:08:51,920 --> 02:08:54,360 Speaker 15: As hard and as fast as we can based on, 2689 02:08:55,080 --> 02:08:59,240 Speaker 15: you know, the availability the players to stay healthy and 2690 02:08:59,280 --> 02:09:00,000 Speaker 15: stay on their feet. 2691 02:09:00,120 --> 02:09:01,560 Speaker 8: Did not fall all over the place. 2692 02:09:01,760 --> 02:09:02,800 Speaker 5: You're still putting the pads on. 2693 02:09:03,360 --> 02:09:04,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, we see on. 2694 02:09:05,280 --> 02:09:07,240 Speaker 8: Yeah, you know what I mean. We we love that thing. 2695 02:09:07,480 --> 02:09:09,720 Speaker 15: It's nice and thin, it can travel anywhere, it can 2696 02:09:09,760 --> 02:09:11,680 Speaker 15: go in your suitcase and go to the workouts. 2697 02:09:11,720 --> 02:09:15,360 Speaker 8: And that's been a good pad that they made for us. 2698 02:09:16,080 --> 02:09:18,120 Speaker 5: One of the things that was, oh, you gotta wrap 2699 02:09:18,160 --> 02:09:19,080 Speaker 5: it up, we gotta go all right. 2700 02:09:19,120 --> 02:09:20,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, one more question. 2701 02:09:20,480 --> 02:09:21,720 Speaker 5: Well, I was just gonna say one of the things 2702 02:09:21,760 --> 02:09:23,640 Speaker 5: that that stuck out to me when you talked about 2703 02:09:23,720 --> 02:09:27,040 Speaker 5: the college players and the differences come you know, spending 2704 02:09:27,080 --> 02:09:29,200 Speaker 5: five years of the program as opposed to six months. 2705 02:09:29,960 --> 02:09:31,800 Speaker 5: What have you seen the differences as they come to you. 2706 02:09:33,600 --> 02:09:40,040 Speaker 15: That the accountability, uh maybe they were enabled at college. 2707 02:09:40,800 --> 02:09:43,920 Speaker 15: Don't don't want to tell them things that may disappoint 2708 02:09:43,960 --> 02:09:46,160 Speaker 15: them or upset them, for fear for them to go 2709 02:09:46,280 --> 02:09:47,320 Speaker 15: and look for another offer. 2710 02:09:49,480 --> 02:09:49,600 Speaker 8: You know. 2711 02:09:49,760 --> 02:09:52,800 Speaker 15: So sometimes that that leads to a player that's not 2712 02:09:52,920 --> 02:09:55,720 Speaker 15: as accountable to the team as he needs to be. 2713 02:09:57,080 --> 02:09:59,160 Speaker 15: And that's okay, you know what I mean. Like we 2714 02:09:59,440 --> 02:10:02,680 Speaker 15: we can change. We can do our part to help 2715 02:10:02,760 --> 02:10:03,080 Speaker 15: change some. 2716 02:10:03,120 --> 02:10:03,800 Speaker 8: Of those behaviors. 2717 02:10:04,160 --> 02:10:06,640 Speaker 4: All right, Mike Fridays, guys, head coach of the New 2718 02:10:06,680 --> 02:10:08,560 Speaker 4: England Patriots. Welcome back. 2719 02:10:08,840 --> 02:10:09,440 Speaker 8: Welcome back. 2720 02:10:09,600 --> 02:10:10,920 Speaker 5: Yeah, thanks Mike, thank you. 2721 02:10:11,880 --> 02:10:14,040 Speaker 4: All right, take a break, We'll be right back. 2722 02:10:14,600 --> 02:10:14,840 Speaker 3: Thanks. 2723 02:10:14,920 --> 02:10:15,120 Speaker 31: Good. 2724 02:10:15,880 --> 02:10:17,760 Speaker 7: Isn't it time to get exactly what you want? 2725 02:10:18,360 --> 02:10:21,080 Speaker 12: Welcome to red Hot Deal Days from Verizon, where you 2726 02:10:21,200 --> 02:10:24,000 Speaker 12: get your pick of our best deals, like my plan, 2727 02:10:24,240 --> 02:10:26,160 Speaker 12: where you can pick the perks you want and save 2728 02:10:26,240 --> 02:10:29,320 Speaker 12: on everyone for limited time. Bring your own phones to 2729 02:10:29,400 --> 02:10:31,520 Speaker 12: a Verizon store and you can get my plan for 2730 02:10:31,640 --> 02:10:34,640 Speaker 12: our best price ever. 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Yeah, Shady Acres Retirement Home. 2774 02:12:50,160 --> 02:12:53,400 Speaker 3: Just plops into the chair, no problem. Yeah, it's fun. 2775 02:12:53,880 --> 02:12:54,160 Speaker 8: There you go. 2776 02:12:54,480 --> 02:12:56,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, Evan, you got a little bit of an opportunity 2777 02:12:56,840 --> 02:12:59,120 Speaker 4: to you know, and You're like, I better not say 2778 02:12:59,200 --> 02:13:00,920 Speaker 4: RPO because I'd be like, not get out of here. 2779 02:13:01,200 --> 02:13:02,960 Speaker 5: Thanks. We're going back to a full. 2780 02:13:02,880 --> 02:13:06,720 Speaker 10: Back, yeah right, I I mean, look, I'm excited about that, 2781 02:13:07,000 --> 02:13:09,480 Speaker 10: that idea of going back to a full back. 2782 02:13:09,520 --> 02:13:09,720 Speaker 27: Paul. 2783 02:13:09,840 --> 02:13:12,520 Speaker 4: I'm all for it as long as he can catch, right. 2784 02:13:14,080 --> 02:13:16,760 Speaker 10: I don't know, while does Patrick reccard catch I've been 2785 02:13:16,800 --> 02:13:18,760 Speaker 10: watching him on over the weekend. I was like, I 2786 02:13:18,800 --> 02:13:19,440 Speaker 10: wouldn't mind that. 2787 02:13:20,200 --> 02:13:23,520 Speaker 4: What do you think? What do you think of my 2788 02:13:23,640 --> 02:13:27,360 Speaker 4: Mason Graham love a good player, good player. 2789 02:13:27,440 --> 02:13:29,960 Speaker 10: I kind of agree with the guys though that you know, 2790 02:13:30,080 --> 02:13:32,600 Speaker 10: is that a is that a premium position of need 2791 02:13:32,760 --> 02:13:35,480 Speaker 10: for the Patriots? And how does that shake out with 2792 02:13:35,560 --> 02:13:37,640 Speaker 10: him and Barmore in the front and like, how do 2793 02:13:37,720 --> 02:13:39,920 Speaker 10: you how do you go about that? And you hope 2794 02:13:39,960 --> 02:13:42,760 Speaker 10: that maybe guy like Mike Rabile can get Kean White 2795 02:13:43,200 --> 02:13:46,280 Speaker 10: on the right track and so really good player if 2796 02:13:46,320 --> 02:13:49,040 Speaker 10: you're just trying to grab talent and go best player available, 2797 02:13:49,040 --> 02:13:50,040 Speaker 10: I can see where your head's at. 2798 02:13:50,160 --> 02:13:53,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, like I know, I say on Thursday 2799 02:13:53,600 --> 02:13:55,320 Speaker 3: night it felt like a Carter. 2800 02:13:56,840 --> 02:13:59,840 Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean he's uh, it's a good chance he's 2801 02:14:00,120 --> 02:14:00,800 Speaker 10: one overall pick. 2802 02:14:01,040 --> 02:14:03,640 Speaker 6: That's that's the realization I had of like the guy 2803 02:14:03,760 --> 02:14:05,360 Speaker 6: being like I don't really care if they lose the 2804 02:14:05,360 --> 02:14:07,160 Speaker 6: first all pick to like me watching that game thirst 2805 02:14:07,160 --> 02:14:07,720 Speaker 6: and night being like. 2806 02:14:10,400 --> 02:14:12,640 Speaker 10: Yeah, I think his What stands out to him and 2807 02:14:12,680 --> 02:14:15,160 Speaker 10: what would make him so exciting with with Rabel is 2808 02:14:15,200 --> 02:14:17,920 Speaker 10: that he only played edge for one year at Penn State, 2809 02:14:18,040 --> 02:14:21,160 Speaker 10: so he's relatively new to playing on the line of scrimmage, 2810 02:14:21,360 --> 02:14:23,760 Speaker 10: and he's still that good and that dominant at college. 2811 02:14:23,840 --> 02:14:25,920 Speaker 10: So you were talking about him putting on the pads 2812 02:14:25,960 --> 02:14:29,720 Speaker 10: and going out there. Imagine him training up Abdul Carter 2813 02:14:29,920 --> 02:14:32,360 Speaker 10: on the nuances of rushing the passer and things like that, 2814 02:14:32,600 --> 02:14:35,880 Speaker 10: and where his development could then take him from there 2815 02:14:36,040 --> 02:14:38,400 Speaker 10: to be a full time edge player would be something else. 2816 02:14:38,520 --> 02:14:40,120 Speaker 6: I brought up with Paul what he did with with 2817 02:14:40,240 --> 02:14:42,880 Speaker 6: Harold Landry, who not that kind of athlete. Yeah, good 2818 02:14:42,920 --> 02:14:45,360 Speaker 6: player nonetheless, and no similar kind of role that he 2819 02:14:45,520 --> 02:14:46,120 Speaker 6: developed him. 2820 02:14:47,560 --> 02:14:51,160 Speaker 3: You go talking, so how about them blue Jays? 2821 02:14:51,560 --> 02:14:51,880 Speaker 8: All right? 2822 02:14:51,960 --> 02:14:54,800 Speaker 4: Now? I just wanted to get how about emails loaded up? 2823 02:14:54,840 --> 02:14:58,360 Speaker 4: We've got a s load of emails, But do one 2824 02:14:58,400 --> 02:15:01,760 Speaker 4: more call because Ernie's been holding on before Rabel came 2825 02:15:01,800 --> 02:15:04,280 Speaker 4: into the room. Ernie's in Tennessee. What's up, Ernie? 2826 02:15:05,440 --> 02:15:05,520 Speaker 9: Oh? 2827 02:15:07,560 --> 02:15:10,360 Speaker 32: I enjoy your show and podcast. 2828 02:15:11,400 --> 02:15:11,680 Speaker 14: I just. 2829 02:15:13,680 --> 02:15:17,920 Speaker 31: Went into the Middle Tennessee YMCA this morning with my 2830 02:15:18,680 --> 02:15:23,520 Speaker 31: Rabel jersey and hoping to bust the balls and I 2831 02:15:23,640 --> 02:15:26,600 Speaker 31: got a reaction that I wasn't expecting. 2832 02:15:27,880 --> 02:15:30,880 Speaker 32: They were all like, oh, you got a great coach. 2833 02:15:31,480 --> 02:15:34,080 Speaker 31: Rabel is a great guy, which. 2834 02:15:33,960 --> 02:15:34,520 Speaker 32: We had him. 2835 02:15:34,560 --> 02:15:34,680 Speaker 3: You know. 2836 02:15:34,760 --> 02:15:39,360 Speaker 32: It was like Wow, they all loved him. Yeah, I 2837 02:15:39,520 --> 02:15:43,840 Speaker 32: just wanted to share that that at least the fans 2838 02:15:43,880 --> 02:15:47,080 Speaker 32: in Tennessee love the guy, appreciated what he did. 2839 02:15:47,480 --> 02:15:50,080 Speaker 4: Ye, thanks Ernie, appreciate the call, Thanks Ernie. 2840 02:15:50,080 --> 02:15:53,280 Speaker 5: I agree with that though, because his personality. You see 2841 02:15:53,360 --> 02:15:57,120 Speaker 5: the personality, he's sort of an easy guy to sort 2842 02:15:57,160 --> 02:16:01,160 Speaker 5: of connect with, because he's kind of just like your friends. 2843 02:16:01,560 --> 02:16:03,800 Speaker 10: Yeah, you know, busting balls all the time. 2844 02:16:04,560 --> 02:16:07,080 Speaker 5: No, obviously none of that manners if you can't coach, right, 2845 02:16:07,360 --> 02:16:10,560 Speaker 5: But I can understand why the Tennessee fans liked him. Sure. 2846 02:16:11,680 --> 02:16:15,600 Speaker 4: Spiing Fresno Risen and podcasts at Patriots dot Com feels 2847 02:16:15,640 --> 02:16:17,920 Speaker 4: like walking into a retirement home was the moment I 2848 02:16:18,000 --> 02:16:20,680 Speaker 4: got fully on board with the higher but a great 2849 02:16:20,760 --> 02:16:23,520 Speaker 4: moment having Vrabel on the show today, Evan got his 2850 02:16:23,600 --> 02:16:26,160 Speaker 4: input in and it's now fully to blame or credit 2851 02:16:26,280 --> 02:16:32,920 Speaker 4: if all the team runs is power. So I was 2852 02:16:33,000 --> 02:16:40,320 Speaker 4: a little you know, throwing a thrown whatever power? Really 2853 02:16:40,440 --> 02:16:41,320 Speaker 4: that's your best run? 2854 02:16:41,440 --> 02:16:43,840 Speaker 10: Oh yeah, yeah, you pull the guard around and get 2855 02:16:43,879 --> 02:16:46,280 Speaker 10: him on the linebacker Henry coach and then and then 2856 02:16:46,320 --> 02:16:48,520 Speaker 10: you pull the guard around and it's play action. They 2857 02:16:48,640 --> 02:16:50,480 Speaker 10: can't tell the difference. It looks the same you hit 2858 02:16:50,560 --> 02:16:52,000 Speaker 10: that bang slant right behind it. 2859 02:16:52,200 --> 02:16:55,600 Speaker 3: Like said like double reverse or something, And wow. 2860 02:16:56,360 --> 02:16:58,920 Speaker 10: I almost said, I almost said duo. But but power 2861 02:16:59,440 --> 02:17:00,640 Speaker 10: power do a good play. 2862 02:17:00,560 --> 02:17:03,880 Speaker 4: Too, uh, Mark writes in I'm over the moon with 2863 02:17:04,000 --> 02:17:07,440 Speaker 4: the hiring of Stable Mike Rabel and truly believe that 2864 02:17:07,520 --> 02:17:09,440 Speaker 4: he will be a successful head coach in New England 2865 02:17:09,480 --> 02:17:12,120 Speaker 4: and think mister Kraft should be commended for how quickly 2866 02:17:12,480 --> 02:17:16,160 Speaker 4: and efficiently he's rectified his mistake. But would you agree 2867 02:17:16,560 --> 02:17:18,480 Speaker 4: with me that the lack of talent on the team 2868 02:17:18,560 --> 02:17:20,879 Speaker 4: of late it would appear to be time to change 2869 02:17:20,920 --> 02:17:25,720 Speaker 4: the talent spotting element to help improve the major issue. Well, 2870 02:17:25,800 --> 02:17:30,160 Speaker 4: I'm you know, that's a work in progress. Identifying talent 2871 02:17:30,320 --> 02:17:33,280 Speaker 4: and getting them on into the team, that's a work 2872 02:17:33,280 --> 02:17:35,879 Speaker 4: in progress. And we'll see what head coach Mike Vrabel 2873 02:17:36,240 --> 02:17:37,840 Speaker 4: has to has to say about that. 2874 02:17:38,040 --> 02:17:40,680 Speaker 10: Yeah, I'm interested. You know, we're we're planning to go 2875 02:17:40,760 --> 02:17:42,760 Speaker 10: to Mobile here in a couple of weeks, some of us, 2876 02:17:42,879 --> 02:17:45,880 Speaker 10: and I'm sure he'll be there with with Elliott and uh, 2877 02:17:46,080 --> 02:17:48,600 Speaker 10: you know, we'll see maybe what we get to talk 2878 02:17:48,600 --> 02:17:50,640 Speaker 10: to him a little bit down there and get to 2879 02:17:50,800 --> 02:17:53,760 Speaker 10: that that chapter, like right, now we're doing you know, 2880 02:17:55,080 --> 02:17:57,320 Speaker 10: nursing homes and things like that. Well, we'll get to 2881 02:17:57,400 --> 02:18:02,560 Speaker 10: the point where we're talking about it was retirement. Well 2882 02:18:02,640 --> 02:18:05,279 Speaker 10: we'll get to uh, we'll get to the talent evaluation. 2883 02:18:05,360 --> 02:18:08,000 Speaker 10: But he did mention Elliott Wolf multiple times in his 2884 02:18:08,120 --> 02:18:12,440 Speaker 10: introductory press conference, and it seemed whether that was just uh, 2885 02:18:12,640 --> 02:18:15,240 Speaker 10: for appearances or not, it seemed like he had sort 2886 02:18:15,280 --> 02:18:16,840 Speaker 10: of h hit it off almost a little bit with 2887 02:18:16,879 --> 02:18:17,520 Speaker 10: Elliott already. 2888 02:18:17,600 --> 02:18:19,960 Speaker 5: I got the same impression. And I also would say, 2889 02:18:20,160 --> 02:18:21,880 Speaker 5: I don't know if you were here when we were 2890 02:18:21,920 --> 02:18:25,320 Speaker 5: talking about some of our impressions. I didn't get the 2891 02:18:25,840 --> 02:18:29,080 Speaker 5: feel that he was being KOI by not giving you 2892 02:18:29,200 --> 02:18:31,840 Speaker 5: much information about offensive and defensive coordinators. 2893 02:18:31,920 --> 02:18:33,720 Speaker 3: I think that's very much a work in progress. 2894 02:18:34,120 --> 02:18:35,720 Speaker 6: Yeah, which I think it should be, like I hope 2895 02:18:35,760 --> 02:18:37,320 Speaker 6: it is, you know, I hope like to your point, 2896 02:18:37,440 --> 02:18:39,840 Speaker 6: I would have hoped that he had guys already lined up. 2897 02:18:39,920 --> 02:18:41,840 Speaker 3: Well, maybe he does, but I mean maybe he's just not. 2898 02:18:42,080 --> 02:18:43,880 Speaker 5: That's why I said I didn't get the impression that 2899 02:18:43,959 --> 02:18:47,360 Speaker 5: he was being KOI. I think that he's open, he's 2900 02:18:47,440 --> 02:18:49,880 Speaker 5: open to learning about people. I figured he would have 2901 02:18:49,959 --> 02:18:52,680 Speaker 5: at least someone on, you know, one of those two, 2902 02:18:52,840 --> 02:18:53,680 Speaker 5: he would have a guy. 2903 02:18:53,600 --> 02:18:54,840 Speaker 8: In mind that. 2904 02:18:56,520 --> 02:19:02,120 Speaker 4: Niche carrying Exeter, New Hampshire. Geez guys, Evan gets to 2905 02:19:02,200 --> 02:19:05,240 Speaker 4: stand in the corner when Mike coach Rabel arrived. Get 2906 02:19:05,320 --> 02:19:06,680 Speaker 4: the guy a stool or a chair. 2907 02:19:07,040 --> 02:19:12,040 Speaker 10: So true, so true, Just expect Alex p Yeah there, 2908 02:19:12,480 --> 02:19:13,560 Speaker 10: I'll give up my seat for the. 2909 02:19:15,040 --> 02:19:16,280 Speaker 5: Disrespected him a little bit. 2910 02:19:16,760 --> 02:19:23,240 Speaker 4: It's okay, let's see. That's the same one. Adam rights in. 2911 02:19:23,400 --> 02:19:25,360 Speaker 4: I love when there's a yapper on the phone who 2912 02:19:25,440 --> 02:19:28,800 Speaker 4: just wants to hear themselves talking. Fred accidentally hits the 2913 02:19:28,879 --> 02:19:32,000 Speaker 4: button to hang up on it. Then to see Paul 2914 02:19:32,120 --> 02:19:34,120 Speaker 4: doing his best to hold the laughter and gets me 2915 02:19:34,200 --> 02:19:37,040 Speaker 4: every time, laughing my butt off in my office right now. 2916 02:19:37,360 --> 02:19:40,160 Speaker 6: Fred's defense, he does do the like he tries to 2917 02:19:40,160 --> 02:19:43,400 Speaker 6: put the little sounds into like he gives a little cure, just. 2918 02:19:43,440 --> 02:19:45,160 Speaker 5: A couple of chances, and when you don't take it, 2919 02:19:45,280 --> 02:19:46,480 Speaker 5: you just go, oh, I'm sorry. 2920 02:19:48,320 --> 02:19:50,560 Speaker 4: Uh Sila's Seattle rights in. 2921 02:19:51,080 --> 02:19:51,360 Speaker 5: I'm not. 2922 02:19:51,800 --> 02:19:54,360 Speaker 4: I'm not one of the delusional fans that thinks Mayo 2923 02:19:54,520 --> 02:19:56,680 Speaker 4: is the worst coach that ever lived, or that Rabel 2924 02:19:56,760 --> 02:19:58,280 Speaker 4: is going to take this team to the super Bowl 2925 02:19:58,360 --> 02:20:01,360 Speaker 4: next season. I'm just in watch I'm watching, I'm in 2926 02:20:01,480 --> 02:20:04,560 Speaker 4: watching C mode. The team is in a multi year rebuild, 2927 02:20:04,560 --> 02:20:07,200 Speaker 4: regardless of who's got the headset in my opinion, So 2928 02:20:07,320 --> 02:20:10,920 Speaker 4: what has Rabel done that makes everyone so optimistic that 2929 02:20:11,040 --> 02:20:13,880 Speaker 4: it can turn this situation around. Drake May has an 2930 02:20:13,920 --> 02:20:17,360 Speaker 4: okay rookie season, but I'm far from comfortable with calling 2931 02:20:17,440 --> 02:20:20,240 Speaker 4: him a franchise quarterback right now, So I hope that's 2932 02:20:20,280 --> 02:20:23,359 Speaker 4: not what people are leaning on. It's a very important 2933 02:20:23,400 --> 02:20:26,000 Speaker 4: time for the team. Because of this hire. Doesn't work, 2934 02:20:26,040 --> 02:20:29,119 Speaker 4: we're gonna be in for over a decade of suck. 2935 02:20:29,680 --> 02:20:32,560 Speaker 4: I agree, it's we're at a crossroads. I agree, and 2936 02:20:32,640 --> 02:20:35,480 Speaker 4: there's no guarantees. But I also I push back. 2937 02:20:35,400 --> 02:20:39,080 Speaker 10: On the notion that they can't be relevant next year. 2938 02:20:39,160 --> 02:20:41,400 Speaker 10: I'm not ready to say that they're gonna be a 2939 02:20:41,480 --> 02:20:44,400 Speaker 10: title contender, obviously, but like, look at Washington, like I 2940 02:20:44,440 --> 02:20:46,840 Speaker 10: couldn't help but watch that game last night and think 2941 02:20:46,920 --> 02:20:50,360 Speaker 10: to myself, like, without saying, Terry McLaurin, who was on 2942 02:20:50,560 --> 02:20:52,039 Speaker 10: the Commanders two years. 2943 02:20:51,800 --> 02:20:54,199 Speaker 5: Ago, I've said this so many times this season. 2944 02:20:54,080 --> 02:20:56,240 Speaker 10: That was any different than what the Patriots talent is 2945 02:20:56,360 --> 02:20:59,080 Speaker 10: right now. They hit on the quarterback, they hit on 2946 02:20:59,160 --> 02:21:01,440 Speaker 10: the culture defense. It's a minded head coach and they 2947 02:21:01,520 --> 02:21:03,880 Speaker 10: hit on Cliff Kingsbury and now they're off and running. 2948 02:21:03,879 --> 02:21:06,000 Speaker 10: They're in the divisional round. I'm not saying the Patriots 2949 02:21:06,000 --> 02:21:07,440 Speaker 10: are going to be that, but I think the notion 2950 02:21:07,600 --> 02:21:10,560 Speaker 10: that they're so far away you can turn it around. 2951 02:21:10,720 --> 02:21:14,039 Speaker 5: That's the part that I always say, Like this idea 2952 02:21:14,160 --> 02:21:18,120 Speaker 5: that it takes three years like in the NFL, is 2953 02:21:18,200 --> 02:21:21,920 Speaker 5: the I don't want to say the word easiest, but 2954 02:21:22,040 --> 02:21:24,720 Speaker 5: it's the easiest to do it quickly out of the 2955 02:21:24,840 --> 02:21:28,040 Speaker 5: major sports. You think so yes, because of everything that 2956 02:21:28,120 --> 02:21:30,680 Speaker 5: Evan just said, there are all the avenues that are 2957 02:21:30,720 --> 02:21:33,920 Speaker 5: there for you. I think the lack of guaranteed contracts 2958 02:21:33,959 --> 02:21:34,560 Speaker 5: even helps you. 2959 02:21:36,400 --> 02:21:37,520 Speaker 4: You can go from. 2960 02:21:39,120 --> 02:21:43,640 Speaker 5: Bad to playoff contender in a blink. If I'm not 2961 02:21:43,760 --> 02:21:46,080 Speaker 5: telling you it's easy. I'm not telling you it's easy 2962 02:21:46,120 --> 02:21:50,120 Speaker 5: because it's not easy. But I've seen a million examples 2963 02:21:50,200 --> 02:21:52,680 Speaker 5: of teams like Washington that just go from really bad 2964 02:21:53,080 --> 02:21:56,119 Speaker 5: to pretty good overnight. Now can they sustain that? We'll 2965 02:21:56,160 --> 02:22:01,040 Speaker 5: find out. But Washington was every as bad as New 2966 02:22:01,120 --> 02:22:05,000 Speaker 5: England last year. They finished tied with the second worst 2967 02:22:05,040 --> 02:22:08,160 Speaker 5: record in football. They played on the field and the 2968 02:22:08,200 --> 02:22:09,720 Speaker 5: game came down to the last play there was a 2969 02:22:09,800 --> 02:22:13,680 Speaker 5: deflected interception Washington ended up winning. They were the same 2970 02:22:14,240 --> 02:22:17,320 Speaker 5: teams and one of them just won twelve games and 2971 02:22:17,360 --> 02:22:20,959 Speaker 5: the other one won four. They both hit on the quarterback, 2972 02:22:22,240 --> 02:22:24,320 Speaker 5: So I think there are some things that you can 2973 02:22:24,400 --> 02:22:26,959 Speaker 5: do to figure it out. And Evan's right. The only 2974 02:22:27,000 --> 02:22:30,360 Speaker 5: thing that they really have that the Patriots don't is 2975 02:22:30,480 --> 02:22:34,320 Speaker 5: Terry McLaurin. Brian Robinson's not any better than ramondre Stevenson, 2976 02:22:34,440 --> 02:22:37,760 Speaker 5: Zach Ertz isn't any better than Hunter Henry. You know, 2977 02:22:37,959 --> 02:22:40,080 Speaker 5: Austin Eckler at this stage of his career isn't any 2978 02:22:40,120 --> 02:22:44,320 Speaker 5: better than Antonio Gibson. They got Brandon Coleman in what 2979 02:22:44,480 --> 02:22:45,359 Speaker 5: the third round. 2980 02:22:45,240 --> 02:22:47,840 Speaker 10: Yes, to play left tackle. I think almost back to 2981 02:22:47,920 --> 02:22:50,920 Speaker 10: back pick, you know, yeah, I think he was the 2982 02:22:51,000 --> 02:22:52,160 Speaker 10: pick before Kayden Wallace. 2983 02:22:52,240 --> 02:22:52,400 Speaker 3: Yeah. 2984 02:22:52,560 --> 02:22:52,760 Speaker 11: Yeah. 2985 02:22:53,480 --> 02:22:58,120 Speaker 5: So he hasn't been great, but their quarterback has been special. 2986 02:22:58,600 --> 02:23:00,760 Speaker 5: They're finding ways to win some game. James Layton game. 2987 02:23:00,840 --> 02:23:03,720 Speaker 5: I think that's like the fifth go ahead touchdown that 2988 02:23:03,760 --> 02:23:06,520 Speaker 5: they've had, or go ahead drive that they've had, or 2989 02:23:06,520 --> 02:23:10,240 Speaker 5: something crazy. I don't know. Maybe he is. 2990 02:23:10,800 --> 02:23:12,880 Speaker 10: I mean I never thought that much of him. 2991 02:23:12,879 --> 02:23:16,080 Speaker 4: He would just turn the cap around. That's my only 2992 02:23:16,200 --> 02:23:16,800 Speaker 4: problem with I. 2993 02:23:16,840 --> 02:23:20,280 Speaker 5: Mean, it's not like he went to Dallas and made 2994 02:23:20,320 --> 02:23:22,200 Speaker 5: them great. It's not like he went to the Rams 2995 02:23:22,240 --> 02:23:24,160 Speaker 5: and he went to Atlanta and took him to the 2996 02:23:24,200 --> 02:23:26,440 Speaker 5: super Bowl. Right, and now he's at Washington, which has 2997 02:23:26,720 --> 02:23:29,720 Speaker 5: been awful for twenty years, and he's made them pretty good. 2998 02:23:29,800 --> 02:23:29,879 Speaker 14: Right. 2999 02:23:30,000 --> 02:23:33,000 Speaker 10: Yeah, that's why maybe he is under He's really good 3000 02:23:33,240 --> 02:23:35,880 Speaker 10: at hiring people, and I think that that's the next big, 3001 02:23:36,000 --> 02:23:39,880 Speaker 10: big step for Rabel. In Atlanta he hired Kyle Shanahan 3002 02:23:39,959 --> 02:23:43,360 Speaker 10: and as his offensive coordinator and Steve Sarkgian and then 3003 02:23:43,680 --> 02:23:48,840 Speaker 10: now in Washington he's hired Cliff Kingsbury and the offensive 3004 02:23:48,879 --> 02:23:51,960 Speaker 10: coordinator hire is now the biggest decision that Rabel has 3005 02:23:52,040 --> 02:23:54,320 Speaker 10: to make, and he should be. Like to Mike's point, 3006 02:23:54,360 --> 02:23:57,600 Speaker 10: I think he needs to hear multiple avenues. 3007 02:23:57,640 --> 02:23:57,760 Speaker 4: You know. 3008 02:23:58,080 --> 02:24:00,840 Speaker 10: Obviously we know McDaniels is out there. Oh we've heard 3009 02:24:00,920 --> 02:24:04,240 Speaker 10: Tommy Reese's name thrown around from Cleveland. But there are 3010 02:24:04,240 --> 02:24:06,560 Speaker 10: other names out there. You know, Josh McCown's out there 3011 02:24:06,840 --> 02:24:09,560 Speaker 10: as a quarterbacks coach. Like maybe he's the guy who knows. 3012 02:24:09,680 --> 02:24:13,080 Speaker 10: But to Dan Quinn's credit, he's done a really good 3013 02:24:13,200 --> 02:24:15,680 Speaker 10: job of building that side of the ball in terms 3014 02:24:15,720 --> 02:24:18,640 Speaker 10: of his staff, because that's not his area of expertise. 3015 02:24:19,040 --> 02:24:21,800 Speaker 10: So he's hired really good coordinators, three of them, really. 3016 02:24:22,520 --> 02:24:25,800 Speaker 4: Jail writes in first time emailing or contacting the show 3017 02:24:25,840 --> 02:24:28,680 Speaker 4: in any way, Although I've been listening for over a decade, 3018 02:24:29,480 --> 02:24:32,280 Speaker 4: do you think coach Rabel was also addressing the players 3019 02:24:32,320 --> 02:24:35,280 Speaker 4: as well as everyone else when he commented on having 3020 02:24:35,400 --> 02:24:38,920 Speaker 4: multiple staff members focusing on the needs of players off 3021 02:24:38,959 --> 02:24:41,720 Speaker 4: the field. I found it interesting how much he emphasized 3022 02:24:41,760 --> 02:24:44,920 Speaker 4: the players their mental and physical health throughout the press conference. 3023 02:24:46,280 --> 02:24:49,240 Speaker 4: I think we all notice that, you know, and I 3024 02:24:49,320 --> 02:24:53,439 Speaker 4: think maybe in today's NFL or sports modern sports. 3025 02:24:53,120 --> 02:24:55,240 Speaker 6: You have to it is I mean just I mean 3026 02:24:55,320 --> 02:24:57,080 Speaker 6: that the story he told about a guy being a 3027 02:24:57,120 --> 02:24:58,840 Speaker 6: little late to a meeting or you know, coming in 3028 02:24:58,959 --> 02:25:01,240 Speaker 6: and not being ready to meet like that, that says 3029 02:25:01,280 --> 02:25:02,920 Speaker 6: everything to me. I think that's you know, those are 3030 02:25:02,920 --> 02:25:04,720 Speaker 6: the meanings that guys miss, those are, you know. I 3031 02:25:04,800 --> 02:25:06,720 Speaker 6: think he's just showing that you have to be a 3032 02:25:06,760 --> 02:25:09,600 Speaker 6: little bit more open minding with with you know, players 3033 02:25:09,640 --> 02:25:11,879 Speaker 6: today and what they're going through. And I think it'll 3034 02:25:11,920 --> 02:25:13,240 Speaker 6: come back to you if you you know, if these 3035 02:25:13,280 --> 02:25:15,120 Speaker 6: guys feel like they're cared about and they're seen just 3036 02:25:15,200 --> 02:25:17,280 Speaker 6: as people and not just players who are there to 3037 02:25:17,360 --> 02:25:19,000 Speaker 6: do a job that you know, I think that that's 3038 02:25:19,040 --> 02:25:19,760 Speaker 6: better for everybody. 3039 02:25:20,360 --> 02:25:24,000 Speaker 4: Lexi and Orlando, Florida. Maybe a silly question, but where 3040 02:25:24,040 --> 02:25:26,960 Speaker 4: does Rabel's contract money come from? Does it lower the 3041 02:25:27,040 --> 02:25:27,879 Speaker 4: available cap? 3042 02:25:28,320 --> 02:25:28,360 Speaker 14: No? 3043 02:25:28,640 --> 02:25:32,840 Speaker 4: No, it's another pool of money and that's the owner's discretion. 3044 02:25:33,200 --> 02:25:33,280 Speaker 8: Right. 3045 02:25:33,360 --> 02:25:37,360 Speaker 4: There's no coaching cap in the NFL. Correct, yep. 3046 02:25:38,240 --> 02:25:40,040 Speaker 5: Does not affect the salary cap. 3047 02:25:40,959 --> 02:25:41,160 Speaker 8: Yep. 3048 02:25:44,520 --> 02:25:51,720 Speaker 4: Let's see stuff about Evan. No, no more stuff about Evan. 3049 02:25:53,800 --> 02:25:55,960 Speaker 4: Josh writes in this could be a pipe dream in 3050 02:25:56,000 --> 02:25:58,199 Speaker 4: my end, but do you see a path to aj 3051 02:25:58,360 --> 02:26:02,680 Speaker 4: Brown joining the Patriots via Trey? Brown is disgruntled in Philly, 3052 02:26:02,800 --> 02:26:06,199 Speaker 4: something in full display last night with his sideline book Antics, 3053 02:26:06,600 --> 02:26:09,280 Speaker 4: and has a previous relationship with Rabel. I think he's 3054 02:26:09,320 --> 02:26:11,560 Speaker 4: on the market, and we're in a position financially to 3055 02:26:11,640 --> 02:26:14,439 Speaker 4: take in a guy that's already signed a multi year extension. 3056 02:26:14,800 --> 02:26:17,120 Speaker 4: I'm not overly concerned with any character. Is there's just 3057 02:26:17,360 --> 02:26:21,039 Speaker 4: Howie Roseman's asking price. That being said, we're talking about 3058 02:26:21,080 --> 02:26:23,560 Speaker 4: a guy that cried on Draft night because the Patriots 3059 02:26:23,760 --> 02:26:27,080 Speaker 4: didn't draft him. What was that all about with him 3060 02:26:27,120 --> 02:26:28,760 Speaker 4: reading the book on the motivations and. 3061 02:26:30,360 --> 02:26:32,320 Speaker 10: Apparently he does it quite a bit, but they just 3062 02:26:32,400 --> 02:26:33,560 Speaker 10: caught him on camera doing it. 3063 02:26:33,800 --> 02:26:36,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, And I would actually say, like, I'm not going 3064 02:26:36,280 --> 02:26:38,880 Speaker 5: to dismiss the email because I think the email is right. 3065 02:26:38,920 --> 02:26:41,520 Speaker 5: I think there's a chance that he's available. Yeah, so, 3066 02:26:41,800 --> 02:26:43,520 Speaker 5: and I think if if he is, I think he 3067 02:26:43,600 --> 02:26:46,359 Speaker 5: probably likes Rabel and we know he likes the Patriots, 3068 02:26:46,760 --> 02:26:49,000 Speaker 5: So I would say that there's a possibility there. And 3069 02:26:49,080 --> 02:26:52,320 Speaker 5: that's the I don't think he's disgruntled because of the book. 3070 02:26:52,360 --> 02:26:54,720 Speaker 5: Last night, the book, I think is did you see him? 3071 02:26:55,040 --> 02:26:56,680 Speaker 5: He had a big smile on his face and like 3072 02:26:56,760 --> 02:26:59,560 Speaker 5: they were laughing about it. No, I know, but Tevan's point, 3073 02:26:59,560 --> 02:27:01,080 Speaker 5: it's something he's he does often. 3074 02:27:01,879 --> 02:27:04,720 Speaker 4: At that point in the game, was the game decided? No, 3075 02:27:05,160 --> 02:27:07,160 Speaker 4: So like, shouldn't he be focused on the game? 3076 02:27:07,320 --> 02:27:10,440 Speaker 5: But I think that's how he focused. I might be 3077 02:27:10,560 --> 02:27:14,480 Speaker 5: reading into this, Yeah, that's what I don't Yeah, I 3078 02:27:14,520 --> 02:27:16,520 Speaker 5: don't want to talk out of turn because I don't 3079 02:27:16,560 --> 02:27:18,560 Speaker 5: know a J. Brown, but I think that's part of 3080 02:27:18,680 --> 02:27:22,880 Speaker 5: his his process. Okay, Now, there have been other signs 3081 02:27:22,920 --> 02:27:24,800 Speaker 5: this year that would tell you that he's disgruntled, Like 3082 02:27:24,840 --> 02:27:25,480 Speaker 5: when he said. 3083 02:27:25,280 --> 02:27:25,920 Speaker 3: What do we need to do? 3084 02:27:25,959 --> 02:27:28,720 Speaker 10: We got to prove the passing game. Yeah, Like, look, 3085 02:27:28,760 --> 02:27:31,119 Speaker 10: he's a deva wide receiver, so when he doesn't get 3086 02:27:31,160 --> 02:27:33,640 Speaker 10: his you know he's going to feel some type of 3087 02:27:33,680 --> 02:27:35,480 Speaker 10: way about it. And last night when they showed him 3088 02:27:35,520 --> 02:27:37,120 Speaker 10: on the bench reading the book, I think he had 3089 02:27:37,160 --> 02:27:39,080 Speaker 10: one catch for ten yards at that point and they 3090 02:27:39,080 --> 02:27:40,000 Speaker 10: were running the ball a lot. 3091 02:27:40,120 --> 02:27:42,400 Speaker 5: And what happened on the next drive did they feed 3092 02:27:42,520 --> 02:27:45,480 Speaker 5: him He No, he made an unbelievable block. Yeah, on 3093 02:27:45,600 --> 02:27:47,880 Speaker 5: the next drive they made a big thing out of it. Like, 3094 02:27:48,440 --> 02:27:51,320 Speaker 5: I don't think last night is the is the illustration 3095 02:27:51,480 --> 02:27:54,800 Speaker 5: of your example of him being disgruntled. But I do 3096 02:27:54,920 --> 02:27:55,840 Speaker 5: think there's a chance. 3097 02:27:55,680 --> 02:27:57,640 Speaker 3: That he could be available. I would take and put 3098 02:27:57,720 --> 02:27:58,480 Speaker 3: him at the top of the list. 3099 02:27:58,840 --> 02:28:01,440 Speaker 5: Now Philadelphia would be easy to get rid of him 3100 02:28:01,440 --> 02:28:03,160 Speaker 5: because I think that offense needs him. 3101 02:28:03,320 --> 02:28:03,560 Speaker 4: Yeah. 3102 02:28:04,040 --> 02:28:05,880 Speaker 10: Yeah, I think he's the type of receiver and I 3103 02:28:06,000 --> 02:28:08,320 Speaker 10: know it's one of the best receivers in football. That's 3104 02:28:08,360 --> 02:28:10,880 Speaker 10: the type of receiver. Like, he's the type of receiver 3105 02:28:11,000 --> 02:28:13,800 Speaker 10: though from a skill set standpoint that I really do 3106 02:28:13,959 --> 02:28:16,960 Speaker 10: believe Rabel gravitates towards and I know that. You know, 3107 02:28:17,320 --> 02:28:20,000 Speaker 10: we sometimes poke fun at the ability to block and 3108 02:28:20,080 --> 02:28:23,520 Speaker 10: all that kind of stuff, But an all situation receiver 3109 02:28:23,800 --> 02:28:27,119 Speaker 10: that allows you to then, you know, incorporate things off 3110 02:28:27,160 --> 02:28:29,640 Speaker 10: of the run game with him on the field because 3111 02:28:29,640 --> 02:28:32,440 Speaker 10: he can hold his own in terms of blocking. I 3112 02:28:32,480 --> 02:28:35,000 Speaker 10: think does scream their type? 3113 02:28:35,080 --> 02:28:36,280 Speaker 5: Now you give a one for him? 3114 02:28:36,520 --> 02:28:38,200 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, four? 3115 02:28:38,640 --> 02:28:39,560 Speaker 10: No, next year's one. 3116 02:28:40,200 --> 02:28:42,240 Speaker 5: I'm not giving four, So you give six? 3117 02:28:44,280 --> 02:28:45,119 Speaker 10: Aj Brown. 3118 02:28:47,080 --> 02:28:49,640 Speaker 4: John in South Carolina. Looking at the past four drafts, 3119 02:28:50,160 --> 02:28:52,720 Speaker 4: four years of drafts, one of the lowest success rates 3120 02:28:52,800 --> 02:28:55,280 Speaker 4: goes to drafting a tackle. Last year, there was only 3121 02:28:55,400 --> 02:28:59,680 Speaker 4: one player titled this tackle. Uh, that player ended up starting. 3122 02:29:00,600 --> 02:29:02,840 Speaker 4: I would say, if we think there is a tackle 3123 02:29:03,200 --> 02:29:06,240 Speaker 4: at four, we need to take him. Not sure after that, 3124 02:29:06,720 --> 02:29:07,800 Speaker 4: maybe an edge rusher. 3125 02:29:08,680 --> 02:29:09,520 Speaker 5: I don't understand. 3126 02:29:09,840 --> 02:29:10,600 Speaker 4: I don't either. 3127 02:29:12,040 --> 02:29:14,720 Speaker 5: Tackle has been a poor success rate. Then why would 3128 02:29:14,760 --> 02:29:16,480 Speaker 5: you say we got to take a tackle at four. 3129 02:29:17,440 --> 02:29:20,879 Speaker 4: I think he's meaning he said, of guys who were 3130 02:29:20,959 --> 02:29:23,760 Speaker 4: labeled tackle, only one ended up starting. 3131 02:29:24,360 --> 02:29:27,080 Speaker 5: Yeah. I don't know, Like, I don't know what that is. 3132 02:29:27,160 --> 02:29:28,920 Speaker 5: I don't know what that means. But he's hit. The 3133 02:29:29,000 --> 02:29:32,040 Speaker 5: first part of his email was that tackle because this 3134 02:29:32,160 --> 02:29:34,960 Speaker 5: is what I agree with. Tackle has been sort of 3135 02:29:35,000 --> 02:29:40,920 Speaker 5: sketchy in the first round lately. And then he said, 3136 02:29:40,959 --> 02:29:42,400 Speaker 5: then you need to take because of that, you need 3137 02:29:42,480 --> 02:29:43,160 Speaker 5: to take a tackle. 3138 02:29:43,920 --> 02:29:45,840 Speaker 4: Well, he's saying, you got to take the sure thing 3139 02:29:45,920 --> 02:29:46,640 Speaker 4: up high, but. 3140 02:29:46,640 --> 02:29:47,400 Speaker 5: It's not a sure thing. 3141 02:29:47,480 --> 02:29:49,720 Speaker 10: He just sort of illustrated why it's not a sure thing, 3142 02:29:50,440 --> 02:29:50,959 Speaker 10: well more than. 3143 02:29:51,080 --> 02:29:51,680 Speaker 4: I think I think. 3144 02:29:52,000 --> 02:29:55,840 Speaker 5: I think I can think of Brandon Coleman in Rosengarden 3145 02:29:55,879 --> 02:29:56,680 Speaker 5: right off the top of my head. 3146 02:29:56,680 --> 02:29:58,119 Speaker 10: Well, Joe, you're talking about. 3147 02:29:59,600 --> 02:29:59,800 Speaker 11: Yeah. 3148 02:30:00,040 --> 02:30:02,480 Speaker 4: I think his point is like, it's a crap shoot 3149 02:30:02,920 --> 02:30:05,800 Speaker 4: with tackle, so if there's a good one, you better 3150 02:30:05,879 --> 02:30:08,000 Speaker 4: take them because lower it's it's a crap shoot. But 3151 02:30:08,440 --> 02:30:10,440 Speaker 4: there's a lot of tackles in the league. They're not 3152 02:30:10,600 --> 02:30:12,600 Speaker 4: all bad, and they all weren't taken it. 3153 02:30:12,720 --> 02:30:15,160 Speaker 5: I also say, like there is no sure thing like that. 3154 02:30:15,400 --> 02:30:15,960 Speaker 10: Of course not. 3155 02:30:16,120 --> 02:30:17,960 Speaker 5: But that's the part of it that I just keep 3156 02:30:19,120 --> 02:30:21,360 Speaker 5: I think there's a there's a sort of line of 3157 02:30:21,480 --> 02:30:24,840 Speaker 5: thought that it's a safe first round pick tackle, And 3158 02:30:24,920 --> 02:30:26,680 Speaker 5: I'm just telling you the only reason why you think 3159 02:30:26,760 --> 02:30:29,320 Speaker 5: that way is because you can't evaluate that position like 3160 02:30:29,360 --> 02:30:30,000 Speaker 5: you can't others. 3161 02:30:30,800 --> 02:30:31,160 Speaker 4: I can't. 3162 02:30:31,200 --> 02:30:34,520 Speaker 5: I certainly can't Evan does, and you know Greg and 3163 02:30:34,879 --> 02:30:38,080 Speaker 5: the guys that do you know, Taylor Kyle's no. I'm 3164 02:30:38,080 --> 02:30:40,120 Speaker 5: saying all you guys tailor that do all you all 3165 02:30:40,200 --> 02:30:42,160 Speaker 5: know is no. The guys that do the all twenty two, 3166 02:30:42,280 --> 02:30:44,560 Speaker 5: they can they can maybe evaluate a little bit better 3167 02:30:44,600 --> 02:30:48,240 Speaker 5: than most. Most people do not watch those guys to 3168 02:30:48,360 --> 02:30:54,560 Speaker 5: that level that they're telling you that Kingsley Solo Sua 3169 02:30:54,640 --> 02:30:58,760 Speaker 5: Matteia is not as good as Roger Rosengarden. Most people 3170 02:30:58,800 --> 02:31:00,840 Speaker 5: were just telling you, well this I started. That guy 3171 02:31:00,920 --> 02:31:03,120 Speaker 5: started out all right, Well, one of them can't play, 3172 02:31:03,400 --> 02:31:04,880 Speaker 5: and one of them, you know, I shouldn't say you 3173 02:31:04,920 --> 02:31:06,879 Speaker 5: can't play. One of them really struggled, and the other 3174 02:31:06,920 --> 02:31:09,280 Speaker 5: one has been pretty serviceable. He had a great night 3175 02:31:09,320 --> 02:31:13,520 Speaker 5: the other night on TJ Watt. You know, yeh. Whereas 3176 02:31:13,560 --> 02:31:16,840 Speaker 5: it's very easy to see a wide receiver who catches 3177 02:31:17,360 --> 02:31:19,760 Speaker 5: nine passes or in the case of our second round pick, 3178 02:31:19,800 --> 02:31:22,000 Speaker 5: twelve passes and say he didn't have a good year, 3179 02:31:23,200 --> 02:31:25,920 Speaker 5: it's right there for everybody to see. That's what makes 3180 02:31:26,320 --> 02:31:30,440 Speaker 5: like tackle safer than wide receiver. All the offensive line, 3181 02:31:30,600 --> 02:31:34,199 Speaker 5: not the ability, not their ability. There's plenty of misses 3182 02:31:34,640 --> 02:31:37,320 Speaker 5: in the first round with tackle over the years. The 3183 02:31:37,360 --> 02:31:38,480 Speaker 5: email is exactly right. 3184 02:31:38,640 --> 02:31:38,840 Speaker 8: Yeah. 3185 02:31:39,480 --> 02:31:41,879 Speaker 10: That was the most encouraging part though for me from 3186 02:31:41,920 --> 02:31:46,800 Speaker 10: the press conference was his just saying that it's critical 3187 02:31:46,879 --> 02:31:49,600 Speaker 10: to get the trenches right here, and to get especially 3188 02:31:49,760 --> 02:31:53,000 Speaker 10: not just the trenches in terms of physicality and finished 3189 02:31:53,040 --> 02:31:58,000 Speaker 10: but pass protection. He specifically talked about protecting the quarterback. 3190 02:31:57,600 --> 02:32:00,800 Speaker 4: And he talked about like getting involved with offensive line coaching. 3191 02:32:00,959 --> 02:32:05,360 Speaker 10: Yeah yeah, and protecting the quarterback is in disrupting the 3192 02:32:05,400 --> 02:32:08,160 Speaker 10: quarterback on the other side. And you just look at 3193 02:32:08,200 --> 02:32:10,760 Speaker 10: the statistics the Patriots thirty second in the league, and 3194 02:32:10,800 --> 02:32:13,560 Speaker 10: pass block win rate thirtieth in the league, and pressure 3195 02:32:13,640 --> 02:32:15,760 Speaker 10: rate on the other side like that, that right there 3196 02:32:15,840 --> 02:32:18,760 Speaker 10: says so much to me about why they stunk for 3197 02:32:18,879 --> 02:32:21,280 Speaker 10: two years is because they couldn't protect the quarterback and 3198 02:32:21,280 --> 02:32:23,800 Speaker 10: they couldn't get after the quarterback. And this guy's coming 3199 02:32:23,879 --> 02:32:25,879 Speaker 10: in and saying, you know, what's your number one off 3200 02:32:25,959 --> 02:32:28,560 Speaker 10: season need and he's saying, protecting the quarterback. And I 3201 02:32:28,600 --> 02:32:30,760 Speaker 10: think that should be music to everybody's ears. 3202 02:32:30,840 --> 02:32:30,920 Speaker 4: Now. 3203 02:32:30,959 --> 02:32:33,600 Speaker 10: How they get there is a story that we can 3204 02:32:33,640 --> 02:32:35,959 Speaker 10: talk about for the next four months, but that piece 3205 02:32:36,000 --> 02:32:37,880 Speaker 10: of it is is key and he said it right 3206 02:32:37,920 --> 02:32:38,360 Speaker 10: off the bat. 3207 02:32:38,840 --> 02:32:42,240 Speaker 4: I'm watching the Felger on TV and make just tell 3208 02:32:42,320 --> 02:32:45,440 Speaker 4: I can just tell from his body language he's figuring 3209 02:32:45,480 --> 02:32:47,400 Speaker 4: out a way to make this a bad day for 3210 02:32:47,480 --> 02:32:51,240 Speaker 4: the New Patriots, and your text chain policy shared that 3211 02:32:51,360 --> 02:32:51,600 Speaker 4: with you. 3212 02:32:52,600 --> 02:32:56,359 Speaker 5: The text chain on Mondays only when how terrible. 3213 02:32:56,120 --> 02:32:56,720 Speaker 8: This is a day? 3214 02:32:56,800 --> 02:33:00,680 Speaker 4: And the decision Ellen Wisconsin Wright saying are you worried 3215 02:33:00,760 --> 02:33:04,520 Speaker 4: at all? That through the whole press conference, Rabel didn't 3216 02:33:04,560 --> 02:33:08,360 Speaker 4: refer to Robert Kraft as Thunder even once. For real, 3217 02:33:08,400 --> 02:33:10,560 Speaker 4: though I'm excited, I was rooting for Johnson, but I 3218 02:33:10,600 --> 02:33:13,800 Speaker 4: think Rabel immediately makes the team relevant. We won't be 3219 02:33:13,879 --> 02:33:18,520 Speaker 4: wondering anymore if issues are due to talent or coaching. Well, 3220 02:33:18,600 --> 02:33:20,680 Speaker 4: let's hope. I mean, we know Rabel's a good coach, 3221 02:33:20,760 --> 02:33:22,320 Speaker 4: but he's got to fill that staff. 3222 02:33:23,360 --> 02:33:25,880 Speaker 5: Those like did statements like that, I'm like, well, how 3223 02:33:25,920 --> 02:33:26,440 Speaker 5: do we know that? 3224 02:33:26,760 --> 02:33:28,400 Speaker 10: Like you just I do? 3225 02:33:28,600 --> 02:33:29,000 Speaker 4: I do it? 3226 02:33:29,040 --> 02:33:31,160 Speaker 5: Can we let the process play out before we just 3227 02:33:31,240 --> 02:33:33,800 Speaker 5: make these declarative statements just now? 3228 02:33:33,920 --> 02:33:35,840 Speaker 6: I get them more of the parcels doesn't work that 3229 02:33:36,000 --> 02:33:37,800 Speaker 6: That to me is I didn't really put that together. 3230 02:33:37,879 --> 02:33:39,280 Speaker 6: But over the last couple of days, like I just 3231 02:33:39,320 --> 02:33:42,440 Speaker 6: see a lot of parallels from when Parcels got here, Karl, 3232 02:33:42,480 --> 02:33:44,440 Speaker 6: it wasn't as bad as it was then, and there's 3233 02:33:44,480 --> 02:33:47,920 Speaker 6: been success. But you know, just a tough coach who's established, 3234 02:33:47,959 --> 02:33:50,400 Speaker 6: who brings a little bit of you know, personality that 3235 02:33:50,480 --> 02:33:51,200 Speaker 6: we've already seen. 3236 02:33:51,280 --> 02:33:51,440 Speaker 8: You know. 3237 02:33:51,480 --> 02:33:53,680 Speaker 3: It's just it's good. That's what they need. 3238 02:33:55,480 --> 02:33:59,360 Speaker 4: Let's see. Kevin says for our schedule release video, we 3239 02:33:59,440 --> 02:34:02,440 Speaker 4: should do years in The cast list is Cliff Claven 3240 02:34:02,520 --> 02:34:07,400 Speaker 4: Is Evan norm Is, Fred Woody is Paul, Rebecca is Tamara, 3241 02:34:08,080 --> 02:34:12,920 Speaker 4: Sam is Mike Vrabel. That makes sense. Lilith is Alex Francisco, 3242 02:34:13,480 --> 02:34:18,760 Speaker 4: Fraser is Alex Barth, and coach is Matt or Hardy. Okay, 3243 02:34:21,000 --> 02:34:26,360 Speaker 4: we're already thinking about Woody. Yeah, Cliff, in a fun fact, 3244 02:34:27,720 --> 02:34:29,320 Speaker 4: if you were if you run duo. 3245 02:34:29,320 --> 02:34:35,200 Speaker 10: And power, I was really excited. He said that, well, 3246 02:34:35,200 --> 02:34:37,280 Speaker 10: we're gonna need a full back and I was like, sure, 3247 02:34:37,320 --> 02:34:37,640 Speaker 10: are Mike? 3248 02:34:37,840 --> 02:34:38,920 Speaker 3: Are we talking right now? 3249 02:34:38,959 --> 02:34:42,240 Speaker 10: Am I talking ball with the We sure are going 3250 02:34:42,320 --> 02:34:43,600 Speaker 10: to need a full back, Mike. 3251 02:34:45,840 --> 02:34:46,760 Speaker 8: You you. 3252 02:34:48,480 --> 02:34:49,240 Speaker 5: Life just ended. 3253 02:34:50,560 --> 02:34:53,520 Speaker 10: Josh is at home game no more than twenty two 3254 02:34:53,560 --> 02:34:54,240 Speaker 10: passes a game. 3255 02:34:54,480 --> 02:34:56,600 Speaker 4: A lot of people like the fact that he came 3256 02:34:56,680 --> 02:34:59,640 Speaker 4: in here busting Paul and my balls. Oh yeah, yeah, 3257 02:34:59,680 --> 02:35:00,480 Speaker 4: I'm a assuming that. 3258 02:35:00,720 --> 02:35:00,879 Speaker 8: Well. 3259 02:35:01,040 --> 02:35:01,960 Speaker 3: No, I think he got me too. 3260 02:35:02,080 --> 02:35:10,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, you do not look old, you know, anywhere 3261 02:35:10,600 --> 02:35:11,360 Speaker 5: near as old as well. 3262 02:35:11,400 --> 02:35:15,480 Speaker 4: He looks like that nineteen fifty sitcom father, So very 3263 02:35:15,520 --> 02:35:18,160 Speaker 4: state down and tell us about you in the middle. 3264 02:35:18,280 --> 02:35:22,760 Speaker 4: Yeah with a pipe. Micah from South Dakota, Fred, we 3265 02:35:22,879 --> 02:35:25,600 Speaker 4: got a guy. That guy has me wanting to run 3266 02:35:25,640 --> 02:35:28,400 Speaker 4: through a brick wall for him. It's very clear that 3267 02:35:28,480 --> 02:35:31,320 Speaker 4: he has a presence about him as a leader. What 3268 02:35:31,480 --> 02:35:33,480 Speaker 4: I find awesome is that if you listen to Taylor 3269 02:35:33,560 --> 02:35:37,280 Speaker 4: Lewin and Will Compton on their podcast talk about Mike Rabel, 3270 02:35:37,320 --> 02:35:40,320 Speaker 4: they say playing for Rabel is hard but rewarding because 3271 02:35:40,320 --> 02:35:42,760 Speaker 4: they always knew if they did what they were coached 3272 02:35:42,800 --> 02:35:45,440 Speaker 4: to do, they'd have a chance to win. Rabel has 3273 02:35:45,480 --> 02:35:48,280 Speaker 4: a plan and I'm all on board with whatever he 3274 02:35:48,440 --> 02:35:50,480 Speaker 4: sees fit for this team, Go Patriots. 3275 02:35:50,600 --> 02:35:52,880 Speaker 5: One of my concerns and that's why I asked him 3276 02:35:52,879 --> 02:35:56,640 Speaker 5: the question about the players and what he's seen, and 3277 02:35:56,760 --> 02:36:00,320 Speaker 5: the difference is, Yeah, it's a hard coaching those guys. 3278 02:36:00,959 --> 02:36:04,040 Speaker 5: Taylor Luwan obviously is a guys. That's what he wanted, 3279 02:36:04,640 --> 02:36:08,039 Speaker 5: and I think most players, let's just call it eight 3280 02:36:08,160 --> 02:36:13,879 Speaker 5: years ago, probably would take to that approach. I think 3281 02:36:13,959 --> 02:36:17,320 Speaker 5: there was a concerted effort by Girod Mayo and his 3282 02:36:17,400 --> 02:36:20,120 Speaker 5: staff last year to understand that that way doesn't always 3283 02:36:20,160 --> 02:36:23,360 Speaker 5: work and they needed to change now. Is there a 3284 02:36:23,400 --> 02:36:27,560 Speaker 5: happy medium, because clearly what Gerrod Mayo did didn't work. 3285 02:36:28,240 --> 02:36:30,560 Speaker 5: And I made this comment many times. I don't think 3286 02:36:30,560 --> 02:36:35,480 Speaker 5: I'm speaking out of school. There was a comment made 3287 02:36:35,520 --> 02:36:38,200 Speaker 5: by Girod to me that he said, if you're going 3288 02:36:38,280 --> 02:36:39,760 Speaker 5: to ask him to run through a wall, you got 3289 02:36:39,840 --> 02:36:43,560 Speaker 5: to hug him first. And I always thought it's the 3290 02:36:43,640 --> 02:36:45,320 Speaker 5: other way around. You got to ask him to run 3291 02:36:45,360 --> 02:36:46,800 Speaker 5: through a wall, and then when they do it right, 3292 02:36:46,959 --> 02:36:49,480 Speaker 5: you give them the hug. And then then they'll do 3293 02:36:49,600 --> 02:36:49,960 Speaker 5: it again. 3294 02:36:50,680 --> 02:36:53,000 Speaker 4: Don't give him the reward. Don't give them the reward. 3295 02:36:52,800 --> 02:36:56,000 Speaker 5: Until they earn it. And I do feel like Rabel 3296 02:36:56,080 --> 02:36:58,440 Speaker 5: is the other way. Obviously Bill was, but I do 3297 02:36:58,560 --> 02:37:00,240 Speaker 5: think Rabel is a guy who will give you the 3298 02:37:00,320 --> 02:37:01,920 Speaker 5: hug when you earn it. 3299 02:37:02,040 --> 02:37:04,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, And I think it's critical that he gets the 3300 02:37:04,320 --> 02:37:07,400 Speaker 4: leaders in that locker room that are his disciples, so 3301 02:37:07,560 --> 02:37:10,520 Speaker 4: that the best players of the team are doing what 3302 02:37:10,680 --> 02:37:12,560 Speaker 4: he wants, so then the other guys might. 3303 02:37:12,520 --> 02:37:14,640 Speaker 5: Be the best reason to keep David Andrews around for 3304 02:37:14,720 --> 02:37:15,119 Speaker 5: over a year. 3305 02:37:15,200 --> 02:37:16,320 Speaker 4: Absolutely, he's one. 3306 02:37:16,240 --> 02:37:16,760 Speaker 5: Of those guys. 3307 02:37:16,840 --> 02:37:19,720 Speaker 10: Absolutely white gobluh. 3308 02:37:19,879 --> 02:37:22,120 Speaker 4: Jeremiah writes in I think vrabel putting a light on 3309 02:37:22,200 --> 02:37:25,320 Speaker 4: the entitlement aspect on the team was big due to 3310 02:37:25,400 --> 02:37:28,480 Speaker 4: the disarray and player press conferences all last season. I 3311 02:37:28,600 --> 02:37:30,600 Speaker 4: hope that he instills in these players how easy it 3312 02:37:30,720 --> 02:37:32,960 Speaker 4: is to lose your job, no matter how good you 3313 02:37:33,120 --> 02:37:33,640 Speaker 4: think you are. 3314 02:37:33,920 --> 02:37:37,359 Speaker 10: Yeah, I've meant to bring that up. I thought that pointed. 3315 02:37:37,640 --> 02:37:41,160 Speaker 10: Like I thought that that was a very pointed comment, 3316 02:37:41,480 --> 02:37:44,000 Speaker 10: and not just to the players and maybe what he 3317 02:37:44,080 --> 02:37:47,240 Speaker 10: observed from the outside looking in last year. But let's 3318 02:37:47,280 --> 02:37:49,520 Speaker 10: face it, you know, there's six banners hanging up in 3319 02:37:49,600 --> 02:37:53,080 Speaker 10: the stadium, and like he said, not going to help us, right, 3320 02:37:53,160 --> 02:37:54,560 Speaker 10: it's not going to help us that we did all 3321 02:37:54,640 --> 02:37:56,280 Speaker 10: this winning twenty years ago. 3322 02:37:56,560 --> 02:37:56,720 Speaker 8: Beca. 3323 02:37:56,760 --> 02:37:58,360 Speaker 10: This is a new group, it's a it's a new 3324 02:37:58,400 --> 02:38:01,240 Speaker 10: set of players, it's a new front office, new coaching staff. 3325 02:38:01,640 --> 02:38:03,680 Speaker 10: And I thought that he felt like maybe there was 3326 02:38:03,720 --> 02:38:05,680 Speaker 10: still a little bit of that, Well, we're the Patriots, 3327 02:38:05,720 --> 02:38:07,920 Speaker 10: so we're just gonna walk off the bus and we're 3328 02:38:07,959 --> 02:38:10,360 Speaker 10: gonna win games because we're the Patriots, and you got 3329 02:38:10,480 --> 02:38:11,680 Speaker 10: to have to go through it again, and you have 3330 02:38:11,760 --> 02:38:12,920 Speaker 10: to go through the hard work again. 3331 02:38:13,080 --> 02:38:15,959 Speaker 5: That in the creating competition, you know, you talked about 3332 02:38:15,959 --> 02:38:20,320 Speaker 5: the roster, not just the starters, but creating competition. You 3333 02:38:20,400 --> 02:38:22,400 Speaker 5: know among the you know, throughout the roster. 3334 02:38:22,520 --> 02:38:23,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, I like that. 3335 02:38:23,560 --> 02:38:25,440 Speaker 4: You know who was big on that, believe it or not. 3336 02:38:25,640 --> 02:38:27,959 Speaker 5: Who was big on Pete Carroll? Pete Carroll, very. 3337 02:38:28,000 --> 02:38:31,280 Speaker 4: Very big on competition, Kevin in Providence. Only time will 3338 02:38:31,320 --> 02:38:33,640 Speaker 4: tell if Rabel will work out as head coach, But 3339 02:38:33,840 --> 02:38:36,400 Speaker 4: my goodness, is it great to have a competent adult 3340 02:38:36,840 --> 02:38:39,120 Speaker 4: be the face of the franchise. If you showed one 3341 02:38:39,200 --> 02:38:42,800 Speaker 4: hundred people who know nothing about football Mayo's intro presser 3342 02:38:42,920 --> 02:38:45,240 Speaker 4: last year and the one that Rabel just did, and 3343 02:38:45,400 --> 02:38:48,200 Speaker 4: asked them which organization do you feel more confident in 3344 02:38:48,280 --> 02:38:51,560 Speaker 4: being successful? One hundred of them would save Rabel ps 3345 02:38:52,200 --> 02:38:54,400 Speaker 4: Was Rabel saying that he doesn't think may would be 3346 02:38:54,440 --> 02:38:56,880 Speaker 4: a good RPO quarterback? Or do you think he was 3347 02:38:56,959 --> 02:39:00,000 Speaker 4: just giving an example of how you choose offensive philosophy 3348 02:39:00,120 --> 02:39:00,680 Speaker 4: a sample. 3349 02:39:01,040 --> 02:39:03,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, but that did occur to me. 3350 02:39:03,840 --> 02:39:06,560 Speaker 5: I would love to why I was thinking. That's another 3351 02:39:06,640 --> 02:39:10,600 Speaker 5: time I thought of you during the press conference. Wipe 3352 02:39:11,000 --> 02:39:12,199 Speaker 5: wipe those words out. 3353 02:39:12,040 --> 02:39:15,320 Speaker 10: Of your mind. Along with the full back. We need 3354 02:39:15,400 --> 02:39:16,560 Speaker 10: our job. 3355 02:39:16,720 --> 02:39:20,000 Speaker 5: I would like to do that experiment. Can we, like 3356 02:39:20,600 --> 02:39:24,520 Speaker 5: somehow get you know, ten people who've never seen a 3357 02:39:24,520 --> 02:39:26,959 Speaker 5: football game and show them both press conferences and ask 3358 02:39:27,040 --> 02:39:29,160 Speaker 5: them which one they would rather root for? 3359 02:39:30,160 --> 02:39:30,680 Speaker 4: Can we do that. 3360 02:39:32,160 --> 02:39:35,280 Speaker 5: Controlled experiment? It have to be people who know nothing 3361 02:39:35,320 --> 02:39:37,360 Speaker 5: about full Yeah, I know that's what's that's the hard part. 3362 02:39:38,480 --> 02:39:45,000 Speaker 4: Well, just then we'll do it with the media. I oh, snap, bom, 3363 02:39:46,720 --> 02:39:50,120 Speaker 4: just kidding everybody, just kidding. I just want that just 3364 02:39:50,280 --> 02:39:55,400 Speaker 4: for these guys the ball, uh, Fred. In addition to 3365 02:39:55,480 --> 02:39:58,480 Speaker 4: you thanking Patricia for his service to the Patriots. As 3366 02:39:58,560 --> 02:40:02,040 Speaker 4: stated by Rabel today, did he say that, I don't 3367 02:40:02,040 --> 02:40:03,840 Speaker 4: think it was so outland just for him to coach 3368 02:40:03,920 --> 02:40:06,160 Speaker 4: on the offensive side of the ball. Maybe Belichick wasn't 3369 02:40:06,160 --> 02:40:08,600 Speaker 4: crazy like much of the media set a football coach 3370 02:40:08,640 --> 02:40:11,280 Speaker 4: as a football coach. Did Rabel say something about that? 3371 02:40:11,720 --> 02:40:16,119 Speaker 5: No, and Rabel didn't. Rabel wasn't the Browns offensive coordinator 3372 02:40:16,160 --> 02:40:19,720 Speaker 5: this year, right, And it's not the same thing. No 3373 02:40:19,840 --> 02:40:20,280 Speaker 5: one was. 3374 02:40:20,480 --> 02:40:21,160 Speaker 8: I got fired. 3375 02:40:22,320 --> 02:40:23,600 Speaker 10: But yes, your points like. 3376 02:40:24,080 --> 02:40:27,120 Speaker 5: It's just not it's not it's not even worth he. 3377 02:40:27,480 --> 02:40:29,880 Speaker 10: Was what he was talking about when he when he 3378 02:40:30,440 --> 02:40:33,480 Speaker 10: brought up tight ends and offensive line. I know you 3379 02:40:33,600 --> 02:40:36,520 Speaker 10: know this, I'm just explaining, yeah, is uh. You know 3380 02:40:36,959 --> 02:40:38,960 Speaker 10: he was saying, well, if I was a defender and 3381 02:40:39,040 --> 02:40:41,520 Speaker 10: you did this, I would do that, right, and you know, 3382 02:40:41,760 --> 02:40:43,560 Speaker 10: trying to go through the cat and mouse game of 3383 02:40:43,920 --> 02:40:46,600 Speaker 10: seeing it through the prism of an out an outside 3384 02:40:46,640 --> 02:40:49,480 Speaker 10: linebacker coming off the edge as a tackle. You know, 3385 02:40:49,520 --> 02:40:51,520 Speaker 10: if you're gonna you know, hit a punch here, then 3386 02:40:51,680 --> 02:40:53,640 Speaker 10: my hands are gonna go like that, and then how's 3387 02:40:53,680 --> 02:40:55,800 Speaker 10: your counter? You know, so that that's how you can 3388 02:40:55,920 --> 02:40:58,760 Speaker 10: kind of you know what's it called, you know, cross 3389 02:40:58,879 --> 02:41:02,080 Speaker 10: train right in that respect. Right, But like we're not 3390 02:41:02,240 --> 02:41:04,600 Speaker 10: coordinating in the offense or he's not the one with 3391 02:41:04,680 --> 02:41:07,160 Speaker 10: the headset calling the place. He was just trying to 3392 02:41:07,200 --> 02:41:08,359 Speaker 10: help with some of the technics. 3393 02:41:08,680 --> 02:41:11,040 Speaker 5: No one ever suggested that Matt Patricia should never be 3394 02:41:11,120 --> 02:41:12,880 Speaker 5: allowed to coach on the other side of the ball, 3395 02:41:13,720 --> 02:41:16,200 Speaker 5: right like forever, Like he's a defensive coach and that's 3396 02:41:16,240 --> 02:41:18,080 Speaker 5: all we ever done. No, like if you wanted to 3397 02:41:18,120 --> 02:41:21,280 Speaker 5: even make him the offensive line coach coordinator, like you 3398 02:41:21,640 --> 02:41:24,640 Speaker 5: just made the guy the offensive coordinator, Like, that's not 3399 02:41:24,800 --> 02:41:28,040 Speaker 5: the same as trying to, you know, broaden your horizons. 3400 02:41:28,640 --> 02:41:32,960 Speaker 4: Connor and Gansett. With McCarthy out in Dallas, what would 3401 02:41:33,000 --> 02:41:35,600 Speaker 4: you say about the idea of Kellen Moore for oc. 3402 02:41:35,600 --> 02:41:40,560 Speaker 5: Bill Belichick is in Philadelphia? Yeah, what he's saying as 3403 02:41:40,800 --> 02:41:42,080 Speaker 5: the Cowboys head coach? 3404 02:41:42,120 --> 02:41:44,880 Speaker 4: I think No, he's talking about bringing him here. 3405 02:41:45,000 --> 02:41:47,200 Speaker 5: So he got it as an offensive coordinator. 3406 02:41:47,320 --> 02:41:48,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, no Kellen Moore? 3407 02:41:48,760 --> 02:41:52,680 Speaker 5: No, what is that? I don't understand what Mike McCarthy's. 3408 02:41:52,400 --> 02:41:52,959 Speaker 3: He thought. 3409 02:41:54,720 --> 02:41:57,600 Speaker 10: Kellm more was in Dallas. He got confused. 3410 02:41:57,640 --> 02:42:01,240 Speaker 5: Okay, I thought he was suggesting Keellen Moore is as 3411 02:42:01,280 --> 02:42:02,760 Speaker 5: the McCarthy successor. 3412 02:42:02,959 --> 02:42:05,039 Speaker 10: Possible, definitely possible. 3413 02:42:05,120 --> 02:42:06,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, that seems that makes sense. 3414 02:42:08,560 --> 02:42:12,720 Speaker 4: Eric and Idaho, Eric and Idaho. As many other Patriots fans, 3415 02:42:12,800 --> 02:42:15,560 Speaker 4: I was okay with either Rabel or Johnson as the 3416 02:42:15,600 --> 02:42:18,920 Speaker 4: next head coach. However, I'm pretty surprised at how polarized 3417 02:42:18,920 --> 02:42:21,200 Speaker 4: people are about the decision. As long as we have 3418 02:42:21,280 --> 02:42:24,280 Speaker 4: an above average coaching, Drake may is the reason we 3419 02:42:24,360 --> 02:42:27,200 Speaker 4: will either be a contender or not. A great quarterback 3420 02:42:27,360 --> 02:42:31,160 Speaker 4: means much more than the head coach. Lastly, would Evan 3421 02:42:31,320 --> 02:42:33,959 Speaker 4: feel better about Rabel higher if he started wearing tight 3422 02:42:34,080 --> 02:42:35,039 Speaker 4: pants is. 3423 02:42:35,800 --> 02:42:36,959 Speaker 5: A polarizing choice. 3424 02:42:37,040 --> 02:42:37,440 Speaker 3: I don't think. 3425 02:42:37,480 --> 02:42:39,680 Speaker 4: I don't think so. I think most people like I 3426 02:42:39,879 --> 02:42:41,560 Speaker 4: kind of wanted Johnson, but I'm okay with this. 3427 02:42:42,240 --> 02:42:43,560 Speaker 5: That's I think most people like. 3428 02:42:43,680 --> 02:42:48,760 Speaker 4: I mean, of the people who wanted Johnson, most of 3429 02:42:48,840 --> 02:42:50,920 Speaker 4: them were saying, I'm fine with this. Yeah, it was. 3430 02:42:51,040 --> 02:42:59,400 Speaker 10: There was Patriots Twitter, which admittedly Patriots Twitter pants off admittedly, 3431 02:43:00,200 --> 02:43:02,480 Speaker 10: you know, excuse a little bit younger at times. Was 3432 02:43:02,560 --> 02:43:07,279 Speaker 10: definitely with the let's hire the rising star offensive coordinator 3433 02:43:07,360 --> 02:43:09,280 Speaker 10: to give him to Drake May and have that whole thing. 3434 02:43:09,480 --> 02:43:13,360 Speaker 10: And I'm still there, like, I still have concerns about 3435 02:43:13,640 --> 02:43:15,920 Speaker 10: how it works with Drake May and the offense and 3436 02:43:15,959 --> 02:43:18,000 Speaker 10: all that kind of stuff. But I think, you know, 3437 02:43:18,120 --> 02:43:21,560 Speaker 10: he kind of the comment that he made about helping 3438 02:43:21,680 --> 02:43:25,520 Speaker 10: Drake May manage the game and the situational awareness and 3439 02:43:25,879 --> 02:43:29,000 Speaker 10: that whole aspect I thought was was soothing to me. 3440 02:43:29,200 --> 02:43:32,000 Speaker 10: I was like, Okay, like he's gonna. I understand where 3441 02:43:32,000 --> 02:43:34,000 Speaker 10: he's coming from because he was a really good at 3442 02:43:34,080 --> 02:43:36,920 Speaker 10: that in Tennessee as a head coach of this is 3443 02:43:36,959 --> 02:43:40,360 Speaker 10: the situation, you know, we were, this is the score. 3444 02:43:40,600 --> 02:43:43,800 Speaker 10: You know, we need to We're in the four minute offense, like, 3445 02:43:43,879 --> 02:43:44,960 Speaker 10: this is what we need you to do. 3446 02:43:45,200 --> 02:43:49,040 Speaker 5: Identified the goal, right, you know, of the situation, whatever, 3447 02:43:49,080 --> 02:43:52,240 Speaker 5: you know, it's four minute, whatever it is, identified the goal. 3448 02:43:52,360 --> 02:43:54,120 Speaker 5: This is the best way to get there, right. 3449 02:43:54,240 --> 02:43:57,720 Speaker 10: And I feel like that element of it is sort 3450 02:43:57,720 --> 02:43:59,959 Speaker 10: of the final hurdle for Drake to start winning game 3451 02:44:00,240 --> 02:44:02,160 Speaker 10: in the league. Not just starting to look good in games, 3452 02:44:02,240 --> 02:44:04,800 Speaker 10: because he's already doing that, but to actually win games 3453 02:44:05,200 --> 02:44:07,400 Speaker 10: in the league. It's the little things that you know, 3454 02:44:07,680 --> 02:44:09,880 Speaker 10: they were able to do with Brady for so many years, 3455 02:44:09,879 --> 02:44:12,960 Speaker 10: where they were just better in that situational element. I 3456 02:44:13,000 --> 02:44:16,080 Speaker 10: think Jaden Daniels is really good in those situational elements 3457 02:44:16,120 --> 02:44:19,640 Speaker 10: and late in games and fourth quarters and close games late, 3458 02:44:19,840 --> 02:44:22,560 Speaker 10: like you know, his numbers are unreal in those situations 3459 02:44:23,080 --> 02:44:25,160 Speaker 10: this year. And that's that's why they flipped it around 3460 02:44:25,200 --> 02:44:25,880 Speaker 10: there in Washington. 3461 02:44:26,800 --> 02:44:28,600 Speaker 4: A lot a couple of people are saying the Patriots 3462 02:44:28,640 --> 02:44:31,560 Speaker 4: are stuck in the past with this higher Do you agree? 3463 02:44:32,680 --> 02:44:33,640 Speaker 3: No, could be. 3464 02:44:35,480 --> 02:44:38,080 Speaker 5: I think that's the part of me that was sort 3465 02:44:38,120 --> 02:44:43,200 Speaker 5: of questioning why they didn't talk to more people was that, Yep, 3466 02:44:43,400 --> 02:44:45,880 Speaker 5: they they looked like they were sort of stuck on 3467 02:44:46,040 --> 02:44:49,720 Speaker 5: some something that they knew again. I don't think there's 3468 02:44:49,760 --> 02:44:52,320 Speaker 5: anything wrong with Mike Rabel. You guys see how much 3469 02:44:52,360 --> 02:44:55,400 Speaker 5: I like him? Yeah, I mean when he came in here, 3470 02:44:55,480 --> 02:44:58,520 Speaker 5: you could see that. I genuinely like Mike Rabel. Yeah, 3471 02:44:58,840 --> 02:45:01,960 Speaker 5: so I have no problem with the higher But I 3472 02:45:02,080 --> 02:45:04,880 Speaker 5: do understand why some people would say just stuck in 3473 02:45:04,959 --> 02:45:05,320 Speaker 5: the past. 3474 02:45:05,720 --> 02:45:08,320 Speaker 4: Ivon in Toronto. How do you see Mike Rabel's culture 3475 02:45:08,400 --> 02:45:10,760 Speaker 4: resonate in the locker room this year? Some players seem 3476 02:45:10,840 --> 02:45:14,480 Speaker 4: to accept substandard plays and attitudes. Deuce would mention guys 3477 02:45:14,520 --> 02:45:16,600 Speaker 4: saying my bad and kind of laugh it off. Some 3478 02:45:16,760 --> 02:45:19,720 Speaker 4: players missing curfew, et cetera. Do you see him cutting 3479 02:45:19,760 --> 02:45:23,120 Speaker 4: players who won't measure up to his standards. This younger 3480 02:45:23,160 --> 02:45:26,000 Speaker 4: generation may not appeal to the toughness and discipline of 3481 02:45:26,080 --> 02:45:28,720 Speaker 4: the new hook coach. I certainly hope to see personal 3482 02:45:28,760 --> 02:45:32,160 Speaker 4: accountability and self discipline the team's foundation. No more walk 3483 02:45:32,200 --> 02:45:34,879 Speaker 4: it back. Mondays would love to know your thoughts. 3484 02:45:35,959 --> 02:45:38,960 Speaker 6: Yeah, I like, I just struggle with like you know, 3485 02:45:39,240 --> 02:45:41,760 Speaker 6: the too many players are soft now and you can't 3486 02:45:41,800 --> 02:45:43,520 Speaker 6: be hard on them and they just want to have fun. 3487 02:45:43,560 --> 02:45:45,160 Speaker 3: Like I just I don't buy into that. 3488 02:45:45,280 --> 02:45:47,480 Speaker 6: I think you can hold guys accountable and be tough 3489 02:45:47,560 --> 02:45:50,040 Speaker 6: on them without being a giant a hole who just 3490 02:45:50,080 --> 02:45:52,160 Speaker 6: seems like you're disconnected and you're just forcing them to 3491 02:45:52,200 --> 02:45:53,959 Speaker 6: do stuff that they don't understand. 3492 02:45:54,000 --> 02:45:54,160 Speaker 1: Why. 3493 02:45:54,240 --> 02:45:56,000 Speaker 6: I just there's ways to do it now. But I 3494 02:45:56,120 --> 02:45:59,800 Speaker 6: just I refuse to believe that hard coaching can't exist anymore. 3495 02:45:59,840 --> 02:46:00,960 Speaker 3: I just I don't believe it. 3496 02:46:01,920 --> 02:46:06,120 Speaker 10: Yeah, I also I do wonder about some of the 3497 02:46:06,200 --> 02:46:09,400 Speaker 10: guys last year that weren't exactly sending the best messages 3498 02:46:09,440 --> 02:46:12,280 Speaker 10: and weren't exactly going about things the best way. How 3499 02:46:12,360 --> 02:46:14,880 Speaker 10: many of those guys are going to be on this 3500 02:46:15,040 --> 02:46:16,720 Speaker 10: team next year. I do wonder about that. 3501 02:46:16,800 --> 02:46:18,080 Speaker 6: I mean, I wonder about how many of those guys 3502 02:46:18,080 --> 02:46:19,800 Speaker 6: are gonna be good on the stand up in front 3503 02:46:19,800 --> 02:46:23,040 Speaker 6: of everybody, and Hey, Kendrick Bourne, what's your depth here? 3504 02:46:23,080 --> 02:46:24,800 Speaker 3: On this third and twelve? Ten? 3505 02:46:25,600 --> 02:46:28,280 Speaker 10: No, twelve? I do think this is going to be 3506 02:46:28,320 --> 02:46:29,320 Speaker 10: it that needs to be done. 3507 02:46:29,440 --> 02:46:33,560 Speaker 5: So you're yeah, there's a chance that there's some guys 3508 02:46:33,640 --> 02:46:35,959 Speaker 5: that you that not a lot of people are expecting 3509 02:46:36,040 --> 02:46:37,120 Speaker 5: to be gone, that will be gone. 3510 02:46:37,280 --> 02:46:37,640 Speaker 10: Agreed. 3511 02:46:38,080 --> 02:46:40,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, We'll do a couple more calls and then we'll 3512 02:46:40,959 --> 02:46:43,440 Speaker 4: wrap it up. We'll be back tomorrow at our usual 3513 02:46:43,520 --> 02:46:46,720 Speaker 4: time at noon. So a lot more calls and emails tomorrow, 3514 02:46:47,280 --> 02:46:50,600 Speaker 4: and we'll talk about the weekend's games. I called it 3515 02:46:51,040 --> 02:46:55,480 Speaker 4: mild card weekend. I wasn't that impressed. 3516 02:46:55,480 --> 02:46:56,320 Speaker 5: I just thought it was boring. 3517 02:46:57,600 --> 02:47:00,800 Speaker 4: Let's go to Brian in Massachusetts somewhere. What's up, Brian? 3518 02:47:02,120 --> 02:47:02,760 Speaker 9: Hey, what's up? 3519 02:47:02,959 --> 02:47:03,119 Speaker 14: Hey? 3520 02:47:05,840 --> 02:47:06,440 Speaker 8: Now you talk? 3521 02:47:07,720 --> 02:47:08,480 Speaker 9: Hey, what's up? 3522 02:47:08,760 --> 02:47:08,960 Speaker 3: Hey? 3523 02:47:09,040 --> 02:47:09,200 Speaker 8: Guys? 3524 02:47:09,240 --> 02:47:10,840 Speaker 30: He's doing there good? 3525 02:47:10,920 --> 02:47:14,200 Speaker 4: Okay, all right, we'll go to the next call. 3526 02:47:14,360 --> 02:47:15,080 Speaker 8: We'll go to Uh. 3527 02:47:16,160 --> 02:47:17,640 Speaker 4: We had a chance, Boston, cream. 3528 02:47:17,680 --> 02:47:18,000 Speaker 10: What's up? 3529 02:47:18,040 --> 02:47:19,280 Speaker 5: Boston did give him a chance. 3530 02:47:19,360 --> 02:47:20,240 Speaker 10: It's fair. It's fair. 3531 02:47:20,440 --> 02:47:21,199 Speaker 26: Blitzen guys. 3532 02:47:21,240 --> 02:47:22,440 Speaker 9: It feels like a new era. 3533 02:47:22,680 --> 02:47:22,960 Speaker 8: Fred. 3534 02:47:23,040 --> 02:47:25,160 Speaker 11: I need you to pull up your boss man short 3535 02:47:25,959 --> 02:47:28,440 Speaker 11: storm up to the grass office. We need new jerseys. 3536 02:47:28,520 --> 02:47:30,680 Speaker 9: Let's get this stench off of us. 3537 02:47:31,280 --> 02:47:32,640 Speaker 29: Look good, play good? 3538 02:47:33,480 --> 02:47:33,800 Speaker 4: Okay? 3539 02:47:34,280 --> 02:47:34,640 Speaker 8: Is that it. 3540 02:47:36,320 --> 02:47:40,320 Speaker 11: Also one last thing? Yeah, there's a trend here. Rod 3541 02:47:40,360 --> 02:47:43,080 Speaker 11: Mayo played for the Patriots ten years ago. Mike Rabel 3542 02:47:43,200 --> 02:47:45,400 Speaker 11: played for the Patriots twenty years ago. If this doesn't 3543 02:47:45,440 --> 02:47:48,960 Speaker 11: work out, Paul Drew Bledsoe played thirty years ago. 3544 02:47:49,360 --> 02:47:54,760 Speaker 4: There you go, okay, Oh, Vincent, all right, thanks, thanks, 3545 02:47:54,800 --> 02:47:55,200 Speaker 4: boss boy. 3546 02:47:55,400 --> 02:47:58,680 Speaker 5: My boy Drew doesn't need to be dad Boydant. He's 3547 02:47:58,760 --> 02:48:01,480 Speaker 5: very contented, no interest, postplaying, courage. 3548 02:48:01,160 --> 02:48:03,840 Speaker 4: No interest. All right, that's going to be it for 3549 02:48:03,920 --> 02:48:08,920 Speaker 4: this edition of an emergency podcast, the hiring of Mike Vrabel. 3550 02:48:09,840 --> 02:48:12,320 Speaker 4: If you missed it, the press conference will be up 3551 02:48:12,400 --> 02:48:15,640 Speaker 4: on is on Patriots dot com probably as we speak, 3552 02:48:16,440 --> 02:48:19,960 Speaker 4: as well as other places that the Patriots control, so 3553 02:48:20,080 --> 02:48:22,280 Speaker 4: you can watch that. We will be back at noon. 3554 02:48:22,800 --> 02:48:25,120 Speaker 4: Very excited Mike Rabel. Let's get to work. 3555 02:48:27,160 --> 02:48:28,840 Speaker 8: Thank you for downloading this podcast. 3556 02:48:29,120 --> 02:48:32,400 Speaker 1: Subscribe on Apple, google Play, and everywhere else you listen. 3557 02:48:32,800 --> 02:48:35,960 Speaker 1: Like the show, Please rate and review us. 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