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Speaker 2: The Worlds of Vigeinal.

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Speaker 1: Podcast Welcome to Patriots Unfiltered.

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Speaker 3: He's their best receiver. I don't think they have a

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Speaker 3: number one receiver. I don't think they have.

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Speaker 4: Their number one. But he's not on number one.

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Speaker 5: For things that really get under Mike Desoa skin Saman

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Speaker 5: that's the one.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, x y Z one football.

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Speaker 6: Talk him getting banged up and being inconsistent and Mike

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Speaker 6: did he play the X?

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Speaker 4: I think it was one two three x y Z.

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Speaker 3: By the way, can we get a close up of

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Speaker 3: dous of Socks offered him a lower contract after the

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Speaker 3: team offered him more money. The Bengals offered him more money.

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Speaker 5: Not how you do negotiation.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and none of the McCartney who young guys, you know,

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Speaker 6: like maybe like there might be more perculating instead.

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Speaker 5: They could win the game and not necessarily have a

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Speaker 5: great offensive day. But I'm talking about the like they

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Speaker 5: just came out and lit it.

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Speaker 2: I might take my shirt off in Cincinnati.

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Speaker 2: All right, welcome to Patriots Unfiltered. It is Wednesday here

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Speaker 2: at Jillette Stadium, our first Wednesday show of the regular season.

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Speaker 2: As a reminder, Patriots Unfiltered will be with you every Tuesday,

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Speaker 2: Wednesday and Thursday from twelve to two here on in

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Speaker 2: throughout the regular season and as long as that season.

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Speaker 5: Lasts, and we have back to our roots.

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Speaker 2: Freddy, Yeah, just Paul and I for the time being,

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Speaker 2: open locker room, so evan inducer in the locker room,

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Speaker 2: gathering up quotes, and they'll be here, oh, you know,

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Speaker 2: in about half an hour or so, maybe a little sooner,

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Speaker 2: but that's where they are. And as soon as they're done,

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Speaker 2: they will join us on the show. We're getting ready

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Speaker 2: of obviously, what are you doing over there?

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Speaker 5: I got some issues?

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Speaker 2: Okay, you went to the doctor today. I did. Is

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Speaker 2: that what you did?

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Speaker 5: And I took the thing off too, So still you're bleeding?

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Speaker 2: You're all right?

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Speaker 5: I don't want to get on my nice shirt.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true. You got a nice You're going with

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Speaker 2: the North Carolina colors a lot lately. Somebody tell you

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Speaker 2: that bring out your eyes.

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Speaker 5: I'm a big Drake maybe Okay, all.

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Speaker 2: Right, Uh, but speaking of Drake may he will not

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Speaker 2: play in this game. It'll be Jacobyers said, well, we

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Speaker 2: hope is the starter. Yeah, we hope. And uh Gerard

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Speaker 2: Mayo spoke this just moments ago about the game. Mentioned

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Speaker 2: their defensive front something that we talked about yesterday. Maybe

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Speaker 5: Well, certainly the the edge rushers are Yeah, and uh,

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Speaker 5: I thought Gerard was was right in pointing out it's

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Speaker 5: not just one a one man show. You know, Sam

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Speaker 5: Mayo got into that a little bit too.

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Speaker 2: preseason game. But they're still sorting through.

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Speaker 5: I think he's right. Like, I think they're still sorting

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and then you know, as far as the Patriots

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Speaker 5: Won't, yeah, I would be surprised at this point. But

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Speaker 5: it's installed day. This is when you get the you know,

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Speaker 5: the the entirety of the game plan is is established.

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Speaker 5: So if he misses a Wednesday, and it's a little

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Speaker 2: Only solos I would give Bengals fans is you know,

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Speaker 2: it's still Joe Burrow who and Jamar Chase and they

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Speaker 2: It will still be a problem. But like I said,

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Speaker 2: put it this way. Whether he plays or not, I

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Speaker 5: positive on that. They like him, they think he's ready

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Speaker 5: that's really a receiving corps beyond Chase and Higgins. Now

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they got a titan. Drew sample.

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Speaker 5: No, but not, He's not gonna like kill you, right.

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Speaker 5: You know, if Duggar and Pepper's is supposed to be

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Speaker 5: Like I know that, then neither one of those guys

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Speaker 2: So listen. I know that the Bengals have aspirations for

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Speaker 2: the playoffs and beyond, but I think given its Week one,

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Speaker 2: given Chase might not play. I give the Patriots a

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Speaker 2: punchers a puncher's chance.

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Speaker 5: I think everybody has a puncher's chance in Week one.

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Speaker 5: I just think there's so and Bill used to talk

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Speaker 5: you just don't know what's going to happen. And Bill

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Speaker 5: first play of the game, Brady got stripsacked by t

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Speaker 5: Keo Spikes and it was returned for a touchdown. So

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Speaker 5: ball over for a touchdown? Like who had that? Who

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Speaker 5: was prepared for that? And Bill always, you know, talked

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Speaker 5: about that game. It's a game that they ended up

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Speaker 5: winning nineteen to seventeen on a late safety. Yeah, Ty Warren,

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Speaker 5: but you know, Bill will talk about that kind of

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Speaker 5: stuff like, no matter how much you prepare for it,

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Speaker 5: you just don't know how the game's gonna unfold. And

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Speaker 5: I think in week one, week one, that's why Week

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Speaker 5: one survivor pools are always blood bats.

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Speaker 2: I think for picking games, week one, week two, and

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Speaker 2: week seventeen are your toughest. Weeks seventeen is because week two,

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Speaker 2: you don't know what you saw in week one is

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Speaker 2: real or not.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I agree, Yeah, I agree with you.

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Speaker 2: So we'll get to those picks tomorrow.

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Speaker 5: I've got to cop out some extra time for that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Do we have a sponsor for the picks yet?

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Speaker 5: What are you hearing I hear nothing.

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Speaker 2: I hear nothing.

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Speaker 5: You know what a shame is to this?

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Speaker 2: Really we need a pick sponsor.

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Speaker 5: There's not really a lot of you know, sort of

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Speaker 5: you know, gambling related websites around anymore, so it's it's probably.

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Speaker 2: Hard to come up with more sports gambling sites. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and maybe like ex coaches could get jobs on them,

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Speaker 2: who knows.

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Speaker 5: You know, like DraftKings sponsor of our postgame show.

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Speaker 2: Huh?

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Speaker 5: I said, like DraftKings sponsor of our postgame show.

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Speaker 2: There you go. Yes. Do we talk about Bill Belichick

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Speaker 2: and Matt Patricia talking about the Patriots yesterday?

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Speaker 5: I think we talked about that, But now I guess

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Speaker 5: he has another gig. Now the thirty third team?

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Speaker 5: Oh you never get any of those those emails?

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Speaker 5: I get those emails all the time.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, NFL thirty three, No, the thirty third team, I

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Speaker 5: I think he's got like five or six different gigs.

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Speaker 5: Oh well, I don't think there's much doubt that that

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Speaker 2: To come to question, is is anything easy in this offense?

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Speaker 2: You know, So now it's for real. Now these guys

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Speaker 2: The style of offense that they're telling us they're going

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Speaker 5: I have to admit, like the way training camp started

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Speaker 2: Now we haven't seen the last two weeks of practice.

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Speaker 2: But you know, I don't know how much you can

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Speaker 2: We don't know what this offense is going to look like.

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Speaker 2: We can make guesses from what we've seen, but nobody

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Speaker 8: Going to be.

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Speaker 5: And I do think there's a chance that Van Pelt

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Speaker 5: So Cincinnati doesn't have the same book on Van Pelt

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Speaker 2: Well, it's always the chess game, you know, he knows

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Speaker 2: Evan had some good stats. I think the Bengals are

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Speaker 5: Again, I don't really understand what that has to do

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Speaker 5: and forever, like but people love None of those guys

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Speaker 5: are here, I know, So who do you bet that?

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Speaker 5: Because both have terrible trends, I know, do you know

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Speaker 5: I think you'll open at nine and a half, and

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Speaker 5: I've seen it as low as seven and a half.

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Speaker 5: So people are putting money on the Patriots.

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Speaker 2: Yep.

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Speaker 8: You know.

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Speaker 5: like my initial reaction, that's a pretty high number on

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Speaker 9: If Chase were playing what's bringing it down?

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Speaker 5: If Chase was playing all of camp, I think I

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Speaker 5: I don't think they'll be like that unless the Patriots

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Speaker 2: Watching the US Open a little d see Roger Goodell.

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Speaker 5: Asmad Doog would say, ye, Goodell.

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Speaker 2: He was in a suite chatting it up with all

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Speaker 5: So I made an observation last night, and Beth laughed

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Speaker 8: Oh?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, so I'm not the only okay, oh yeah, just

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Speaker 5: he looks like a Bond Villain's just started cracking up.

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Speaker 2: There's a million of pictures of him on the internet

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Speaker 5: Yeah, So what do we think we got two Americans

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Speaker 5: a chance that they could both win? No, No, you

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the odds are that.

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Speaker 5: Well, Center would probably the other one.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's one I like to I like the guarantee

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Speaker 5: Well that's because Fred has his tennis attire.

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Speaker 2: I have my FeelA shirt on. Yes, I promised it yesterday.

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Speaker 5: And he delivered.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Made me laugh out loud when I watched in the studio.

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Speaker 2: Old school Borg shirt.

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Speaker 5: Yes, absolutely.

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Speaker 8: Ye.

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Speaker 5: You know my brother would have gotten along very well.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah.

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Speaker 5: He was a huge board guy, love board.

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Speaker 2: You know, he retired like at twenty five.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, but you know, have you watched I'm sure you have.

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Speaker 5: when he when he lost, like oh yeah, suddenly McEnroe

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Speaker 5: I always thought he just was like one of those

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Speaker 5: guys that you know what I don't really like to

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Speaker 5: do this anymore.

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Speaker 2: Well, I think that was.

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Speaker 5: Part of it, but it was because he was losing.

439
00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:58,720
Speaker 2: Well, he realized what it was going to take to

440
00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:02,280
Speaker 2: compete with, you know, in particular McEnroe, and he just said,

441
00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:03,480
Speaker 2: I can't do it anymore.

442
00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:04,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, that was a good documentary.

443
00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:05,120
Speaker 8: Though.

444
00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:08,480
Speaker 5: McEnroe is an interesting guy because he was so hated

445
00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:11,360
Speaker 5: when he played, but now everybody loves him.

446
00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:15,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, people realize like probably on all these line calls,

447
00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:20,120
Speaker 2: he was right. You know, he probably was. I don't

448
00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:20,640
Speaker 2: blame him.

449
00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:23,600
Speaker 5: Well, plus like tough upbringing, like his father was tough

450
00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:24,879
Speaker 5: on him. You ever read that book, you read the

451
00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:26,160
Speaker 5: mc and roe biography.

452
00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:29,280
Speaker 2: I didn't read the biography, but I know of his father.

453
00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:34,000
Speaker 5: Fans are gonna love this segment, little little US Open

454
00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:35,440
Speaker 5: slash Tennis history talk.

455
00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:37,560
Speaker 2: That's a right. Well, I just I brought it up

456
00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:41,879
Speaker 2: because Goodell was at the internal last night. You know.

457
00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:49,240
Speaker 2: You wonder like years ago on Labor Day weekend, CBS

458
00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:51,640
Speaker 2: would have the US Open, so they'd have the one

459
00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:53,399
Speaker 2: o'clock game, but they give.

460
00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:56,080
Speaker 5: Away they didn't have the la No four o'clock window.

461
00:21:56,200 --> 00:22:00,640
Speaker 2: And now with the promise of eighteen games, there thinking

462
00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:03,240
Speaker 2: they're going to take back Labor Day the NFL, and

463
00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:05,760
Speaker 2: you know, because they're going to need that extra week

464
00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:08,440
Speaker 2: and they might have to ask at a bye week,

465
00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:10,720
Speaker 2: so they're really going to need that extra week. I

466
00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:13,520
Speaker 2: wonder if you know good Dell is already talking to

467
00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:18,440
Speaker 2: you know, ESPN or whoever. Hey, this is how we're

468
00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:21,000
Speaker 2: going to work out that Labor Day weekend with you all.

469
00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:23,959
Speaker 5: You know, so let me ask you this. Well, you know,

470
00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:26,640
Speaker 5: the league kicks off tomorrow night. We talked a little

471
00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:31,240
Speaker 5: bit about Kansas City and Baltimore. Yesterday I put up

472
00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:35,359
Speaker 5: just you know, kind of like a over overatching like

473
00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:38,280
Speaker 5: season preview type stuff, you know, with picks and you know,

474
00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:39,160
Speaker 5: award winners.

475
00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:42,320
Speaker 2: Who do you like for MVP for the league?

476
00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:46,479
Speaker 5: Yeah? Yeah, prediction for MVP, Like That's what I put

477
00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:48,600
Speaker 5: in my notebook yesterday. I just kind of do it all.

478
00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:51,919
Speaker 5: You know. It's like everybody else you know, means nothing,

479
00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:56,800
Speaker 5: but you know, some predictions for for awards and whatnot

480
00:22:56,880 --> 00:23:00,720
Speaker 5: and division winners things like that. Fans like that stuff. Friends.

481
00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:02,760
Speaker 5: You know what, you always accuse me of not worrying

482
00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:05,879
Speaker 5: about the clickbait. That's clickbait. Everybody, everybody clicks on a

483
00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:06,840
Speaker 5: you know, a prediction.

484
00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:08,639
Speaker 2: I mean, the first thing you try to do is, all, right,

485
00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:10,080
Speaker 2: who do you think is going to be the best

486
00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:12,760
Speaker 2: team and who's going to be the most valuable player

487
00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:13,399
Speaker 2: on that team?

488
00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:19,080
Speaker 5: So I have my most boring pick ever, like Patrick Mahomes. Yeah, yeah,

489
00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:23,040
Speaker 5: So I just felt like, you know, I can try

490
00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:26,040
Speaker 5: to go outside the box, but I just feel like

491
00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:29,560
Speaker 5: he's like the best player on the best team. And

492
00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:33,000
Speaker 5: what he did last year to me was so Brady

493
00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:36,120
Speaker 5: esque of just dragging a team that really wasn't all

494
00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:39,560
Speaker 5: that great note offensively anyway, the defense was pretty good.

495
00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:43,760
Speaker 5: But I feel like, if you know that was a chance,

496
00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:46,400
Speaker 5: you got to get them when they're down, you got

497
00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:46,840
Speaker 5: to get him.

498
00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:51,879
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think I'm hoping and I'm predicting that Kansas

499
00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:54,080
Speaker 2: City has a drop off. There could be going for

500
00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:57,320
Speaker 2: three in a row. The odds against that you pick

501
00:23:57,400 --> 00:23:59,480
Speaker 2: the field something.

502
00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:01,320
Speaker 5: Like that, I would pick against them.

503
00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:04,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, So that's why you know I won't go with

504
00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:10,639
Speaker 2: the obvious pick there. Also, sometimes with these things, you

505
00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:13,560
Speaker 2: look for the emerging team. Who's the team that you know,

506
00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:16,160
Speaker 2: maybe it's Detroit that goes all the way.

507
00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:18,880
Speaker 5: And I have Detroit in the super Bowl. But yeah,

508
00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:21,200
Speaker 5: I mean they were in the conference championship last year.

509
00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:22,440
Speaker 5: It's not But if that's.

510
00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:24,639
Speaker 2: The case, does Jared Goff get the nod for m

511
00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:24,920
Speaker 2: v P?

512
00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:29,159
Speaker 5: You know, yeah, I didn't. I didn't give him much consideration,

513
00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:32,719
Speaker 5: but I did hear something this morning that bodes well

514
00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:36,160
Speaker 5: for Detroit. They have an absurd amount of indoor games Detroit,

515
00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:38,760
Speaker 5: and that's that's the key for golf. Yeah, he's a

516
00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:42,920
Speaker 5: different guy outside, especially if the weather's bad. Yeah, so

517
00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:44,919
Speaker 5: that that could that could bode well for him. I

518
00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:48,120
Speaker 5: mean if the Bengals, I had Joe Borrow last year

519
00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:50,160
Speaker 5: and then he ends up he came out of camp

520
00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:53,159
Speaker 5: hurt and then he got hurt again, right, so it

521
00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:54,960
Speaker 5: never you know, even had a chance. He had his

522
00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:56,840
Speaker 5: worst season. So that was a bad pick.

523
00:24:57,440 --> 00:25:00,000
Speaker 2: Who you know, like if the forty nine ers finally

524
00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:02,040
Speaker 2: get over the hump, well, not that you haven't got

525
00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:05,160
Speaker 2: to the super Bowl. But McCaffrey, yeah, he he, you know,

526
00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:06,320
Speaker 2: he's an obvious choice.

527
00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:08,800
Speaker 5: I picked Tyreek Hill for Offensive Player of the Year

528
00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:12,520
Speaker 5: because McCaffrey's wonted like he wanted to hard to repeat

529
00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:15,560
Speaker 5: those words. I think people they like to change.

530
00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:18,080
Speaker 2: It up you got ceedee lamb.

531
00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:21,160
Speaker 5: You know, yeah, he was in the hunt.

532
00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:21,520
Speaker 2: Yeah.

533
00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:21,679
Speaker 10: Oh.

534
00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:25,040
Speaker 2: By the way, Patrick's certain agreed to a big deal today.

535
00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:26,160
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah.

536
00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:30,280
Speaker 2: So deals are still being made right up to the deadline.

537
00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:32,359
Speaker 2: So I guess there's hope for Chase.

538
00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:36,359
Speaker 5: Oh yeah. I mean there's no like he wasn't holding

539
00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:37,080
Speaker 5: out though, was he.

540
00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:39,440
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know. It was just an extension.

541
00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:43,240
Speaker 5: I think, yeah, this is weird, so something I thought

542
00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:45,920
Speaker 5: that that might spur some action. I don't know if

543
00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:48,000
Speaker 5: you heard did you see any of the Trent Williams stuff.

544
00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:50,720
Speaker 5: Trent Williams we talked about yesterday. He signed and he

545
00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:52,600
Speaker 5: got a big deal finally, you know, he came in,

546
00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:56,040
Speaker 5: he got his he got some guaranteed money. It was

547
00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:58,679
Speaker 5: pretty team friendly after all that. But he he had

548
00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:01,639
Speaker 5: some interesting comments. You know, we didn't mention, you know,

549
00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:05,199
Speaker 5: the situation with Ricky pearsall, their rookie wide receiver who

550
00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:08,240
Speaker 5: got shot over the weekend and you know, ultimately got

551
00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:10,320
Speaker 5: placed on NFI so he's going to miss at least

552
00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:13,159
Speaker 5: four games. But Trent Williams said that affected him and

553
00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:17,040
Speaker 5: he was like, what am I holding out for when

554
00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:19,399
Speaker 5: these kinds of things are going on, and he said

555
00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:22,600
Speaker 5: he thought it was important to get back and try

556
00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:26,719
Speaker 5: to help the supportive of Pearsall. And you know, I

557
00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:28,879
Speaker 5: understand that it's still about money. He still got a

558
00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:31,080
Speaker 5: lot of money. I'm not trying to make Trent Williams

559
00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:34,359
Speaker 5: out to be Mother Teresa here, But I just wonder

560
00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:37,360
Speaker 5: if maybe a guy like Chase takes a step back.

561
00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:39,879
Speaker 5: Maybe he heard that, maybe he didn't, and maybe he

562
00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:41,600
Speaker 5: looks at it and say, yeah, you know what, there

563
00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:44,520
Speaker 5: are more important things to worry about. Because with Chase

564
00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:47,159
Speaker 5: and I love Jamar Chase. I think he's a tremendous player.

565
00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:51,480
Speaker 5: But Ceedee Lamb got his big deal, justin Jefferson got

566
00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:55,000
Speaker 5: his big deal, and there have been other guys. They

567
00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:58,639
Speaker 5: get him. They get them now they're four years they

568
00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:00,520
Speaker 5: were getting ready to play on their fifth the eruption.

569
00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:03,680
Speaker 5: Chase is a year early. He's only played three years

570
00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:07,679
Speaker 5: in his fourth year. Yes, so thank goodness we have

571
00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:10,040
Speaker 5: Mike orsoa save us from our tennis.

572
00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:12,399
Speaker 2: Talk makes it a little bit more complimentd.

573
00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:14,280
Speaker 5: So I just wonder, and like I thought that, Mike,

574
00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:16,320
Speaker 5: did you see the Trent Williams stuff with him talking

575
00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:22,159
Speaker 5: about the impact that the Ricky parasol shooting had He's like,

576
00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:23,800
Speaker 5: you know, I took a step back, and I don't know,

577
00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:26,680
Speaker 5: like what am I doing? You know, there's more important

578
00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:30,920
Speaker 5: things than really contract. And again he got he got money,

579
00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:32,439
Speaker 5: So I'm not trying to say he came back for

580
00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:36,040
Speaker 5: nothing because of his fallen teammate. But I just wondered

581
00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:39,840
Speaker 5: if may like a guy like like Jamar Chase, you know,

582
00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:43,320
Speaker 5: looks at that and says, yeah, I am a year early,

583
00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:46,320
Speaker 5: and you know what if something like this happens or

584
00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:48,359
Speaker 5: the other way around, like, you know, I need the

585
00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:52,600
Speaker 5: money now because you never know, you know, how it unfolds.

586
00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:54,439
Speaker 4: You didn't see that, No, I did not see that.

587
00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:55,920
Speaker 4: I was I was just in the locker room, I know.

588
00:27:56,600 --> 00:28:01,200
Speaker 2: And so what's the spread und go ahead.

589
00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:02,760
Speaker 5: Mood?

590
00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:06,040
Speaker 4: Oh, the mood was a little serious. I would say

591
00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:10,080
Speaker 4: no music, but maybe no business of practice.

592
00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:13,120
Speaker 6: So we talked to to Juwan Bentley and Jonathan Jones,

593
00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:16,520
Speaker 6: two veteran leaders of the Defense, and Bentley is always

594
00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:19,360
Speaker 6: pretty serious, but uh, you know, it's just you kind

595
00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:21,360
Speaker 6: of see like my guy Pepper's that you know. There

596
00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:22,800
Speaker 6: wasn't a lot of joking around, at least on the

597
00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:25,399
Speaker 6: defensive side of all. Wasn't you know, overwhelming serious. But

598
00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:27,640
Speaker 6: I just thought those couple of guys that spoke seemed uh,

599
00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:30,280
Speaker 6: you know, pretty locked in, sounding like they're preparing for Chase.

600
00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:33,840
Speaker 6: As Mao said earlier, like he's gonna play. That's what

601
00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:36,120
Speaker 6: Jonathan Jones said, you know, just saying what a good

602
00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:38,040
Speaker 6: player he is. So yeah, you know, a little bit

603
00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:39,120
Speaker 6: of a mood. It's a little bit of a different

604
00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:41,120
Speaker 6: set up here going to the locker room before you

605
00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:42,880
Speaker 6: guys are okay, you guys, it was like the old

606
00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:43,440
Speaker 6: old days.

607
00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:45,240
Speaker 5: Well that's sweet. So we went back to our roots

608
00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:47,280
Speaker 5: and we carried the show the way we do every

609
00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:49,560
Speaker 5: other day. But you know, this was only.

610
00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:50,320
Speaker 2: Two of us today.

611
00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:52,480
Speaker 6: Well we'll get having a practices at one, so I

612
00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:54,600
Speaker 6: think he'll he'll go out there and yeah, we'll see

613
00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:56,640
Speaker 6: what the get an injury report today and and.

614
00:28:56,840 --> 00:28:59,920
Speaker 5: A lot of stuff. It's happening. It's happening, Mike, It's happened.

615
00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:02,680
Speaker 2: It's all who was the major scrum today?

616
00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:07,080
Speaker 6: Bentley was the first one, and Jones and otherwise it's, uh,

617
00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:08,920
Speaker 6: you know, it's not so much scrums.

618
00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:10,520
Speaker 4: It's kind of going back to how it was My

619
00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:11,320
Speaker 4: first year.

620
00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:14,200
Speaker 6: Where reporters are kind of floating around and you know,

621
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:17,200
Speaker 6: talking to guys, and guys seem pretty willing to tell.

622
00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:19,400
Speaker 2: I think at least I be. You know, I've been

623
00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:22,080
Speaker 2: into the locker room this year a few times, and

624
00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:25,120
Speaker 2: it seems like there's more players available. Yeah, like in

625
00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:27,840
Speaker 2: the past, there'd be like two or three players there,

626
00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:30,800
Speaker 2: I mean, everybody there. They'd leave and then maybe one

627
00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:31,680
Speaker 2: of them would come in.

628
00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:34,120
Speaker 5: I think this is more like the timing is more

629
00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:36,280
Speaker 5: like the old days. I agree with you, Fred. I

630
00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:38,320
Speaker 5: also thought, and I don't know how you guys feel

631
00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:40,880
Speaker 5: about this, what was it like today with the media,

632
00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:46,120
Speaker 5: like the huge because I've noticed this was the first

633
00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:48,320
Speaker 5: day that locker room was opened that I didn't go in.

634
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:55,040
Speaker 5: I feel like there's been fewer, fewer media people here. Now.

635
00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:58,400
Speaker 5: Today's Wednesday. That's always the huge day. All the TV,

636
00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:00,360
Speaker 5: all the TV usually.

637
00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:02,440
Speaker 4: That is true.

638
00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:04,840
Speaker 2: Believe me, you don't think I think some of these

639
00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:08,400
Speaker 2: guys this is like they're only little supplement in the

640
00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:11,240
Speaker 2: media right in the media, I think some of them,

641
00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:11,640
Speaker 2: you know.

642
00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:15,480
Speaker 5: But yeah, Wednesday's always the biggest day by far from media.

643
00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:19,719
Speaker 5: There's all the TV cameras here and they get all

644
00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:21,560
Speaker 5: their stuff for the week and they sort of cycle

645
00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:25,720
Speaker 5: through it. But I just anecdotally. I definitely the other

646
00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:28,080
Speaker 5: day it was not a very big media group.

647
00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:30,000
Speaker 4: Now it was big today. Andy Hart was there. I

648
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:30,600
Speaker 4: guess he's.

649
00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:34,920
Speaker 5: A little bit and he says that he's I.

650
00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:36,760
Speaker 2: Can see him. I'm gonna be I'm going to be

651
00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:37,560
Speaker 2: in the locker room.

652
00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:38,680
Speaker 5: No, he says.

653
00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:38,880
Speaker 11: No.

654
00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:41,480
Speaker 5: He says he's going to try to make it. H

655
00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:43,720
Speaker 5: make an effort to get in the locker room once

656
00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:47,160
Speaker 5: once a week. And what about the other song? As

657
00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:49,240
Speaker 5: long as he can get back and forth. Well, I

658
00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:53,000
Speaker 5: think he'll probably do a little a little of that

659
00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:55,200
Speaker 5: as well. I don't know, like if he'll do it

660
00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:57,959
Speaker 5: every week, and he already said he goes, I'll probably

661
00:30:57,960 --> 00:30:59,880
Speaker 5: get sick of that because it just makes it for

662
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:01,000
Speaker 5: a really long day.

663
00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:04,440
Speaker 6: He's got to drive to Dartmouth to wherever we yeah is,

664
00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:05,640
Speaker 6: back to here, back to ee.

665
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:09,400
Speaker 5: Well he'll drive from from Dartmouth to here.

666
00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:12,960
Speaker 2: To so EI doesn't provide him a car service.

667
00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:14,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, you can't. Do You think they should.

668
00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:15,680
Speaker 4: Drive afternoon show? They should?

669
00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:18,440
Speaker 2: I should have a driver. Yeah, he'll probably need a

670
00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:19,520
Speaker 2: bodyguard eventually.

671
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:21,960
Speaker 4: Now it's Uh, I would just say that, Paul. Really,

672
00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:23,240
Speaker 4: it's definitely.

673
00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:25,160
Speaker 6: More access to these guys in the locker room as

674
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:26,240
Speaker 6: it's set up, but I you.

675
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:27,760
Speaker 5: Know, timing is just so much.

676
00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:29,440
Speaker 4: Oh, it's much better being able to write.

677
00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:31,520
Speaker 6: It's also just I think it's good for the players

678
00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:33,160
Speaker 6: because they're just kind of getting ready for practice.

679
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:35,040
Speaker 4: So it's you know, there's when it used to be

680
00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:37,040
Speaker 4: in the afternoon, everybody would kind of leave and.

681
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:39,720
Speaker 5: You're all looking to get home. Yeah, So just think

682
00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:42,880
Speaker 5: about that from a logistical standpoint. If you're a player,

683
00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:47,080
Speaker 5: you got them in a locker room to get dressed

684
00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:50,719
Speaker 5: to go out to practice, as opposed to I'm getting

685
00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:53,760
Speaker 5: undressed to go home. Yeah. Right, what do you think

686
00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:55,800
Speaker 5: is going to cause a player to linger in the

687
00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:57,120
Speaker 5: locker room a little bit longer?

688
00:31:57,560 --> 00:31:58,760
Speaker 4: Definitely not the media.

689
00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:01,560
Speaker 5: And definitely not the urgency to get out to practice.

690
00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:03,120
Speaker 6: Right. It is funny though, you see some of the

691
00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:05,160
Speaker 6: guys different, like how they get ready for practice, Like

692
00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:08,720
Speaker 6: some guys are showering, other you know to.

693
00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:10,800
Speaker 5: Bentley about that because you and I have sort of been.

694
00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:12,160
Speaker 2: Who showers before practice?

695
00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:14,560
Speaker 4: I know a few guys do actually, but.

696
00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:16,440
Speaker 5: You and I were talking about Bentley just seems to

697
00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:18,040
Speaker 5: like comes in and it's like you look at the

698
00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:20,240
Speaker 5: clock and like, don't they have practice in like ten minutes?

699
00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:24,800
Speaker 5: And he's just like changing. Is like Clark Kenton.

700
00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:28,520
Speaker 2: Where the quarterback? Would you insist your center shower before practice?

701
00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:31,240
Speaker 6: Yeah, especially with the loofa, you know, clean things out

702
00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:32,880
Speaker 6: down there on the top of my hands.

703
00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:33,320
Speaker 5: Brady did.

704
00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:36,200
Speaker 2: So you were at your rod, I wasn't rug and

705
00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:39,680
Speaker 2: you heard him talking about the offensive line, how they're

706
00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:42,680
Speaker 2: still working through it. It could look similar to what

707
00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:45,240
Speaker 2: we saw in the Commanders and we were trying to

708
00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:48,480
Speaker 2: figure out is that before so get hurt or after.

709
00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:51,120
Speaker 5: You know what I mean, the group that started or

710
00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:54,560
Speaker 5: the group that basically had to play with the ones. Yeah,

711
00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:56,040
Speaker 5: I mean I wonder what that meant.

712
00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:58,000
Speaker 4: I think I think Low to me is just the

713
00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:00,800
Speaker 4: big piece. I mean, and that's been out there, right,

714
00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:03,120
Speaker 4: I mean he was he was out there.

715
00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:06,640
Speaker 6: So wasn't out there on Monday last press, but Low

716
00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:09,240
Speaker 6: was watching. And I don't know how you would turn

717
00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:11,000
Speaker 6: that limited participation.

718
00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:11,360
Speaker 4: I guess.

719
00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:16,560
Speaker 5: My guess is they're both going to be well, there

720
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:19,040
Speaker 5: might be out there might be d n P today.

721
00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:21,600
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean that's interesting, but it sounds like regardless,

722
00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:23,360
Speaker 6: they're gonna they're gonna rotate some guys.

723
00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:26,600
Speaker 4: And I mean they, you know, brought in the monstrous tackle.

724
00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:28,720
Speaker 5: How do you put it? The other day, like it

725
00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:30,920
Speaker 5: would be naive to think you're going to get the

726
00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:33,520
Speaker 5: play and all these guys are going to play the

727
00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:36,480
Speaker 5: whole game. Yeah, up front, And Bill used to do

728
00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:36,880
Speaker 5: that too.

729
00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:37,320
Speaker 8: You know.

730
00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:43,320
Speaker 5: Bill often rotated lineman on the early weeks, and you know,

731
00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:45,320
Speaker 5: and then you kind of settle into your five.

732
00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:48,080
Speaker 4: The other giant offensive lineman, I apologized, I don't have

733
00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:50,600
Speaker 4: his name in front of me. Sixty walks through the

734
00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:50,959
Speaker 4: locker room.

735
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:54,240
Speaker 2: It's a little guy the Vibes signed.

736
00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:55,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, they just signed him up.

737
00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:58,960
Speaker 6: And then they previously signed another offensive tackle with similar size.

738
00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:00,479
Speaker 4: So I don't know if that's something than that they

739
00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:02,040
Speaker 4: like or if that's just what was available.

740
00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:08,040
Speaker 2: Didn't they sign uh Farley what's his name? They had

741
00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:09,120
Speaker 2: him at it for a workout.

742
00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:11,000
Speaker 5: I like that workout, by the way. I like the

743
00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:14,719
Speaker 5: idea of that. That's a Belichick like total inquiry. You know,

744
00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:18,800
Speaker 5: first round pick, there's talent there hasn't worked out. Doesn't

745
00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:20,839
Speaker 5: matter to us why it hasn't worked out. Let's see

746
00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:21,440
Speaker 5: if there's talent.

747
00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:23,400
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean how many times have we talked about

748
00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:25,799
Speaker 6: cornerback depth on the show, you know, And that's something

749
00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:27,719
Speaker 6: I think that maybe if that guy you take a

750
00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:28,879
Speaker 6: flyer on him, is he better than.

751
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:32,719
Speaker 2: Marko Wilson, highly touted coming it's your first round pick. Yeah,

752
00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:33,279
Speaker 2: I know, it's a.

753
00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:35,759
Speaker 4: Real back injury, like serious back injury. Though I think we're.

754
00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:38,200
Speaker 2: Probably we've dealt with guys with back injuries before it

755
00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:39,320
Speaker 2: worked out for Gronk.

756
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:40,200
Speaker 5: Mike.

757
00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:41,280
Speaker 4: Maybe you've heard of Kronka.

758
00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:45,080
Speaker 2: I'm not a fan, right, what else? What else did

759
00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:47,200
Speaker 2: you glean from Gerar today?

760
00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:47,680
Speaker 4: You know?

761
00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:50,799
Speaker 6: I think it was more just philosophical of like it's

762
00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:52,959
Speaker 6: really starting now, Like all the stuff we talk about

763
00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:54,680
Speaker 6: all summer, it's all fun and like, you know, but

764
00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:56,920
Speaker 6: it's another none of it really actually matters, and like

765
00:34:57,040 --> 00:34:58,840
Speaker 6: a game is truth, like this is We're going to

766
00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:01,759
Speaker 6: get truth this weekend, whatever way it goes, and then

767
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:04,360
Speaker 6: that's gonna just start the narrator. We're almost gonna start fresh.

768
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:06,600
Speaker 6: So in some ways, this last few days feel like,

769
00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:09,240
Speaker 6: you know, just I don't know, kind of a throwaway

770
00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:11,200
Speaker 6: period of like, all right, we know everything we've talked

771
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:13,640
Speaker 6: about it all summer. Let's just get these guys out

772
00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:14,960
Speaker 6: there and see a game. And I don't I kind

773
00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:17,000
Speaker 6: of got that vibe of these guys. You know, they're ready.

774
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:19,520
Speaker 4: They're they're sick of practice and going against each other.

775
00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:20,399
Speaker 4: They're ready to I.

776
00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:22,520
Speaker 2: Mean, they talked all summer about we're going to be

777
00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:25,399
Speaker 2: a running team, and he repeated it today. Yep, we're

778
00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:27,359
Speaker 2: gonna have to run the ball. And we were talking

779
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:30,719
Speaker 2: about who are your keys on offensive defense. We both

780
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:33,279
Speaker 2: agree Ramandre Stevens, Yeah, has to be a key on

781
00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:35,920
Speaker 2: if if they're true to the work. Yeah, you know,

782
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:38,840
Speaker 2: maybe they're throwing us a curve ball and they're gonna,

783
00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:40,880
Speaker 2: you know, throw the ball all day. But I doubt that.

784
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:43,120
Speaker 5: I can't imagine a first half that he doesn't get

785
00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:45,200
Speaker 5: ten carrias. Yeah, sure, you know, Like, I'm not gonna

786
00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:47,040
Speaker 5: tell you he's gonna get twenty twenty five carriers for

787
00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:48,440
Speaker 5: the game because I don't know what the score is

788
00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:51,680
Speaker 5: going to be. But I think I can almost guarantee

789
00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:53,839
Speaker 5: you he's going to see a lot of action early.

790
00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:53,919
Speaker 2: In the game.

791
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:55,680
Speaker 6: Yeah, And I think they'll put Gibson in there a

792
00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:57,400
Speaker 6: lot too, Like I mean, I think it'll be pretty

793
00:35:57,440 --> 00:36:00,239
Speaker 6: healthy balance between them, you know, a little bit more

794
00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:03,200
Speaker 6: skewed towards Remandre. But yeah, just what's it going to

795
00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:04,680
Speaker 6: look like? I mean, I thought Tommy Curran had a

796
00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:08,000
Speaker 6: good question this morning, directly asking Girod something that we've

797
00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:10,600
Speaker 6: all talked about of you know, do you have how

798
00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:13,040
Speaker 6: different is this wide zone scheme from what you guys

799
00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:15,000
Speaker 6: have been doing the last couple of years, because that's

800
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:17,160
Speaker 6: all we talked about in twenty twenty two was Maddy

801
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:18,920
Speaker 6: Peas in here he's trying to put the San Francisco

802
00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:20,799
Speaker 6: offense in. They were there, you know, and we saw,

803
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:23,840
Speaker 6: I mean, not to do comparison, but I mean remember

804
00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:25,960
Speaker 6: that practice where it was like they're they're trying it again.

805
00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:27,839
Speaker 6: I mean it was just over and over they're trying

806
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:29,520
Speaker 6: to rep it and they never quite could get it. So,

807
00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:32,640
Speaker 6: you know, in that and as well as asking Girod,

808
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:35,359
Speaker 6: do these guys fit that system and what you're trying

809
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:37,920
Speaker 6: to do? So, I don't know, I thought his answer

810
00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:40,000
Speaker 6: to answer was interesting of like there's really only what

811
00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:42,600
Speaker 6: six runs I think is what he said. I was

812
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:46,040
Speaker 6: waiting for Evan to be like, what, like that's not true?

813
00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:48,160
Speaker 5: You know, Fred read that quote to me and I

814
00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:50,680
Speaker 5: was like, he's like, you know the gap this, yeah,

815
00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:55,279
Speaker 5: and then trick runs, Tricky run yeah, trick. Well that

816
00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:57,720
Speaker 5: sounds like a lot, right, Like sounds like plural.

817
00:36:57,880 --> 00:37:01,000
Speaker 6: I'm like, dude, I mean duo inside, like I've acquired

818
00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:03,040
Speaker 6: a little bit of knowledge, you know, the.

819
00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:07,120
Speaker 4: Jets switch, Jets sweep. But I just I want to

820
00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:07,719
Speaker 4: see how it all.

821
00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:12,640
Speaker 6: Belly belly oh man, those are the high school playbook, right,

822
00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:14,160
Speaker 6: hated belly belly?

823
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:14,600
Speaker 8: Oh?

824
00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:18,120
Speaker 6: Hi, Matt, So yeah, no, we're I think we're off.

825
00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:20,640
Speaker 6: It's the first Wednesday, and we'll get you Kobe this afternoon.

826
00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:24,320
Speaker 6: So I just I'm liking this new schedule and hopefully it's.

827
00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:28,960
Speaker 5: The new schedule is fantastic for all involved. But are

828
00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:33,319
Speaker 5: you at all surprised, Mike that Mayo continues to sort

829
00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:35,000
Speaker 5: of say how well they've run the ball?

830
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:38,040
Speaker 4: Yes, summer seems like he's leaning into it for sure.

831
00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:40,800
Speaker 4: I mean, it's uh like you think they've had their moments.

832
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:42,799
Speaker 5: I just don't think the Washington game was really the

833
00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:44,480
Speaker 5: only time that they ran the ball well. And I

834
00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:46,880
Speaker 5: think they ran the ball very well against Washington.

835
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:52,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I and the whole talent practice I mean I can't.

836
00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:52,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, I can.

837
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:54,600
Speaker 5: When there's a guy hitting the guy before he gets

838
00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:56,120
Speaker 5: to the line of scam, it's not a good run.

839
00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:57,680
Speaker 5: So that there wasn't you know that, And it was

840
00:37:57,719 --> 00:37:59,000
Speaker 5: an awful lot of it there.

841
00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:02,120
Speaker 6: Was, And I think think the ones that were open

842
00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:03,600
Speaker 6: kind of stood out. And I think they had a

843
00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:04,799
Speaker 6: good couple of days here and there.

844
00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:05,719
Speaker 4: I mean, I wouldn't say.

845
00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:07,520
Speaker 5: I just thought they were few and far between on

846
00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:10,839
Speaker 5: the practice field. Now against Washington, if that's what, if

847
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:12,320
Speaker 5: they can run the ball like that.

848
00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:14,000
Speaker 2: I can't tell in practice.

849
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:16,120
Speaker 6: It's almost like you was pretty tell yourself that because

850
00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:17,759
Speaker 6: you've been saying all summer, we have to run the

851
00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:20,360
Speaker 6: ball this off so you know, you have to hope,

852
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:22,200
Speaker 6: I mean, because if you can't run the ball, you

853
00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:23,160
Speaker 6: feel like this whole offense.

854
00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:25,520
Speaker 5: And I would just argue, like, you know, my my

855
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:28,520
Speaker 5: tired trope of you know, teams that run the ball.

856
00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:31,720
Speaker 5: They ran the ball really well against Washington, right average

857
00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:33,440
Speaker 5: over five yards to carry and they did it for

858
00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:36,120
Speaker 5: all four quarters, especially early in the game. How many

859
00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:40,360
Speaker 5: points they score, right, yeah? Ten? Now it's hard to

860
00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:42,040
Speaker 5: it's hard to score that way.

861
00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:44,279
Speaker 2: Well, And we were talking about if if you are

862
00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:47,160
Speaker 2: going to pound the ball, you're talking about sustained drives.

863
00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:50,279
Speaker 2: You're talking about ten to twelve play drives. And that's

864
00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:52,879
Speaker 2: tough for this team, at least from what we've seen

865
00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:58,120
Speaker 2: with the mistakes they've made. Absolutely and executing on every play.

866
00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:01,680
Speaker 2: You have to be fundamentally sound to you know, sustain

867
00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:05,839
Speaker 2: those drives. Especially maybe we'll all be surprised, maybe they'll

868
00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:07,640
Speaker 2: come out and there'll be a different team that we've

869
00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:08,959
Speaker 2: seen in these preseason games.

870
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:10,719
Speaker 6: I think you hit on it, Fred, because that's I

871
00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:12,600
Speaker 6: think something that Paul and I talked about a lot

872
00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:14,560
Speaker 6: when we were, you know, doing the pregame shows, was

873
00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:16,920
Speaker 6: just that you have no sense of if they're able

874
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:20,920
Speaker 6: to string those ten play twelve play drives together because

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Speaker 6: you haven't really seen a lot in practice of you

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Speaker 6: know where it's just live and I mean, and granted

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Speaker 6: I don't totally put all my stock in that, but

878
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:30,440
Speaker 6: you just haven't really seen it. It's a lot of

879
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:31,960
Speaker 6: new pieces. How are they going to be able to

880
00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:34,720
Speaker 6: just suddenly come up with it? This week against the Bengals,

881
00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:35,600
Speaker 6: we'll see.

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Speaker 2: All Right, Well it's not gonna be easy, but you

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Speaker 4: Okay, you know you need.

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Speaker 2: Something to do before this week's kickoff. Why not get

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Speaker 2: All right, my food's here. Paul no longer eats. Very

897
00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:28,680
Speaker 2: upset about that.

898
00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:30,080
Speaker 5: My doctor was happy time.

899
00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:31,080
Speaker 2: What's that?

900
00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:32,520
Speaker 5: My doctor was very happy with me?

901
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Speaker 8: Too?

902
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:34,919
Speaker 2: Good for you? That's good. That's good.

903
00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:36,840
Speaker 5: Paul has nothing to do with that, you know?

904
00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:37,080
Speaker 8: That?

905
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Speaker 4: Was it going to the michelob Ultras last night.

906
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Speaker 5: I might have. I'll give you a little preview tomorrow.

907
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Speaker 5: I think that the set might look a little different

908
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Speaker 5: tomorrow when we're doing picks. I will be taking part

909
00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:51,399
Speaker 5: in lunch. Oh okay, we have the other desk.

910
00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:54,920
Speaker 2: This is a This is all a protest because you

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Speaker 2: don't have to.

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Speaker 5: It's not a protest. It's just not conducive to eating.

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Speaker 2: I manage you do figure it out.

914
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Speaker 5: Do you also managed to stain a lot of your clothe.

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Speaker 12: It's type for another episode of Patch from the Past podcast,

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Speaker 12: Matt Smith along with.

942
00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:36,160
Speaker 9: Paul Rollo, please to be joined by number twenty eight.

943
00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:37,839
Speaker 5: Can you believe that number twenty eight?

944
00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:41,640
Speaker 9: It is great to see Corey Dylon here. Corey, thanks

945
00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:43,360
Speaker 9: for joining us man, thanks for having me.

946
00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:46,799
Speaker 12: Really appreciate it. It's great to see you. It's been a while.

947
00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:49,279
Speaker 12: I know you came back in December. I think last year.

948
00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:53,759
Speaker 12: You're here today you're going into the Bengals Ring of

949
00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:56,560
Speaker 12: Honor or Hall of Fame. It seems like you're reconnecting

950
00:42:57,080 --> 00:42:59,080
Speaker 12: with the franchises that you played with, and that's got

951
00:42:59,120 --> 00:42:59,959
Speaker 12: to make you feel great.

952
00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:03,000
Speaker 8: Yeah, it's been a it's been a long time coming.

953
00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:04,120
Speaker 8: I kind of went.

954
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:04,319
Speaker 2: Off the.

955
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:09,360
Speaker 8: Reservation of this Sun and same for for many years.

956
00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:15,640
Speaker 8: So just just getting back and coming back around the organizations,

957
00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:16,560
Speaker 8: it's a it's a good feeling.

958
00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:18,920
Speaker 5: So the full disclosure, we did try to get you

959
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:20,920
Speaker 5: in December too, that's one of our one of our

960
00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:21,680
Speaker 5: few failures.

961
00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:23,240
Speaker 9: Yes, yes, you're right, Paul.

962
00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:24,360
Speaker 5: We didn't get them the first time around.

963
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:25,040
Speaker 4: But it is great.

964
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:28,120
Speaker 5: I would echo what Matt said, you know, we're going

965
00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:29,880
Speaker 5: to get into the two thousand and four season, but

966
00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:32,560
Speaker 5: that is a that is one that I think has

967
00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:34,560
Speaker 5: a special place in the heart of a lot of

968
00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:37,759
Speaker 5: people in this area. That that twenty and four team

969
00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:41,840
Speaker 5: was a special team and you know, I'm really looking

970
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:43,279
Speaker 5: forward to getting some of your man.

971
00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:44,759
Speaker 8: It was. It was great to be a part of

972
00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:45,200
Speaker 8: that team.

973
00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:45,399
Speaker 6: Man.

974
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:50,520
Speaker 8: There's so many Hall of Fame caliber players on that team.

975
00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:54,480
Speaker 8: It's it's it's crazy. That's that's one of the favorite

976
00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:58,680
Speaker 8: teams out of my whole career I played for and dude,

977
00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:00,600
Speaker 8: I had a great time. That was That was one

978
00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:01,239
Speaker 8: hell of a run.

979
00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:02,040
Speaker 2: So let's get to it.

980
00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:06,720
Speaker 12: You're at April, it's before the draft. Were there conversations

981
00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:09,600
Speaker 12: going on. Did you think that that was a possibility

982
00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:11,160
Speaker 12: or did it catch you off guard?

983
00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:14,280
Speaker 8: No, Man, to be honest, I'm at home. I'm thinking

984
00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:17,640
Speaker 8: like worst case scenario type things. So I'm thinking, like, man,

985
00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:20,080
Speaker 8: I may have to sit out a year or whatever.

986
00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:25,879
Speaker 8: I think. I think the Raiders was real serious about

987
00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:28,239
Speaker 8: bringing me in, and and that was that was my

988
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:31,160
Speaker 8: first first option, and that's what I was thinking, like, Man,

989
00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:35,719
Speaker 8: I might be going to Oakland. So to actually get

990
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:38,600
Speaker 8: the call from my agent was like and he told

991
00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:40,200
Speaker 8: me like this. He was just like, pack a bag,

992
00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:44,200
Speaker 8: We're going to Boston. And I said for what? You know,

993
00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:46,840
Speaker 8: I don't like for what we were going to bost for.

994
00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:49,239
Speaker 8: And he just told me, man, shut up, just pack

995
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:53,360
Speaker 8: a back and meet me at the airport. So actually

996
00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:57,680
Speaker 8: coming down here and and meeting with Bill and Scott Pioli, Man,

997
00:44:57,680 --> 00:45:00,839
Speaker 8: we had a great conversation and and it was simple, man,

998
00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:03,279
Speaker 8: it didn't take that long. It was just like, hey,

999
00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:06,839
Speaker 8: you know, what do you think you could play for us?

1000
00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:10,120
Speaker 8: I said absolutely. We shook hands and that was that

1001
00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:12,800
Speaker 8: was it. And the rest is history.

1002
00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:17,080
Speaker 5: So at the end in Cincinnati, you know, we we

1003
00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:19,239
Speaker 5: you know, we're only watching from afar, you know, so

1004
00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:21,719
Speaker 5: we're seeing the highlights where you know, we're hearing the

1005
00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:23,920
Speaker 5: you know, the chatter, and we were like, well, does

1006
00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:26,360
Speaker 5: this guy really want to play? But it got to

1007
00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:29,080
Speaker 5: the point where it was so bad for you with

1008
00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:32,279
Speaker 5: that organization that you you felt strongly enough as you

1009
00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:34,560
Speaker 5: just said that, you you thought you might just sit

1010
00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:37,080
Speaker 5: out rather than play for them again. It must have

1011
00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:39,279
Speaker 5: been it must have felt like a rebirth to come

1012
00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:41,280
Speaker 5: here and play for for the Patriots.

1013
00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:45,160
Speaker 8: Oh dude, it was so refreshing, you know, just coming

1014
00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:47,960
Speaker 8: from the situation I came in. We were at ends,

1015
00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:53,200
Speaker 8: odds ends about just what transpired that whole year. So,

1016
00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:57,960
Speaker 8: you know what, I'm coming off an injury and and

1017
00:45:58,120 --> 00:45:59,680
Speaker 8: just some of the stuff that was going on during

1018
00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:04,160
Speaker 8: that year, I mean just compounded the situation. So actually

1019
00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:08,000
Speaker 8: to get a fresh new start and actually come to

1020
00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:13,440
Speaker 8: an organization that winning is everything, I embraced that That's

1021
00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:14,200
Speaker 8: what I wanted to do.

1022
00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:16,000
Speaker 9: Did you have any preconceived notions?

1023
00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:17,960
Speaker 12: I mean, it feels like it's almost like a get

1024
00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:20,279
Speaker 12: out of jail free card for you. Maybe you'd have

1025
00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:28,520
Speaker 12: accepted to go anyplace host it, Bill, Yeah.

1026
00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:27,880
Speaker 9: But here you're coming to the defending super Bowl champions.

1027
00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:30,319
Speaker 9: You don't know anything about the organization other than they're

1028
00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:32,640
Speaker 9: the defending champs. What was your feeling coming.

1029
00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:35,759
Speaker 8: In, Ah, Man, that was a lot of anxiety, to

1030
00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:38,160
Speaker 8: be honest with you, because you don't know what to expect.

1031
00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:41,520
Speaker 8: They already got something in place and they're rolling, and

1032
00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:45,040
Speaker 8: then you got this. You got this notion of like

1033
00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:46,759
Speaker 8: what they really need me for? They just want the

1034
00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:49,919
Speaker 8: super Bowl, you know what I mean? So I think

1035
00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:54,640
Speaker 8: some people think it's easy to be traded to a

1036
00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:58,560
Speaker 8: super Bowl champion. Man, there's more pressure on you to

1037
00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:02,160
Speaker 8: make your mark and to contribute to that, to that team.

1038
00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:06,480
Speaker 8: So I mean I embraced that situation as well. I

1039
00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:08,600
Speaker 8: just wanted to come in and, you know what, do

1040
00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:13,160
Speaker 8: my part. And for the most part, man, my teammates

1041
00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:17,400
Speaker 8: were great. They accepted me, The organization accepted me. Bill,

1042
00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:19,360
Speaker 8: let me do my theme, man, So it kind of

1043
00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:19,879
Speaker 8: worked out.

1044
00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:23,040
Speaker 5: So that's interesting that you had some anxiety coming in.

1045
00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:26,080
Speaker 5: Really interesting, right, So what was you know what you

1046
00:47:26,120 --> 00:47:28,080
Speaker 5: said that they really accepted you. What was the moment

1047
00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:29,800
Speaker 5: that you sort of felt accepted.

1048
00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:34,880
Speaker 8: Well, hey, some of these players already knew right, so

1049
00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:37,800
Speaker 8: that that kind of that kind of bridged the gap

1050
00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:40,719
Speaker 8: of getting comfortable, meaning that.

1051
00:47:40,719 --> 00:47:43,879
Speaker 12: You could play like in two thousand and one, they

1052
00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:47,120
Speaker 12: had to face him, you know, the kinised.

1053
00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:50,520
Speaker 8: Yeah, so I mean, just breaking the eyes and getting

1054
00:47:50,520 --> 00:47:52,959
Speaker 8: to know these guys, and I mean just coming here

1055
00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:58,160
Speaker 8: doing training camp and us joking around and getting familiar

1056
00:47:58,200 --> 00:48:00,239
Speaker 8: with each other, we kind of, you know, everybody was

1057
00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:03,000
Speaker 8: just like, oh, okay, so some of the things I

1058
00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:05,520
Speaker 8: hear ain't what they are, you know what I mean.

1059
00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:11,600
Speaker 8: So yeah, I mean I'm pretty sure coming in due

1060
00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:14,799
Speaker 8: to the fact that how less Cincinnati, they were like,

1061
00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:18,359
Speaker 8: can we trust him? Can is he gonna be able

1062
00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:20,080
Speaker 8: to fit any with us? Can he does? You know,

1063
00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:23,480
Speaker 8: just things like that of that nature, and just coming

1064
00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:26,439
Speaker 8: in and they seeing my personality like I'm just like them,

1065
00:48:26,719 --> 00:48:30,080
Speaker 8: I think kind of broke the eyes and we started

1066
00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:32,600
Speaker 8: we started yelling and they let me do my thing.

1067
00:48:32,719 --> 00:48:37,799
Speaker 9: So there was an acclamation period, definitely training camp, preseason maybe.

1068
00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:39,799
Speaker 8: Okay, definitely, I mean, and then on top of that,

1069
00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:43,120
Speaker 8: I'm pretty sure people was still thinking wondering if I

1070
00:48:43,120 --> 00:48:46,000
Speaker 8: could play as well. So yeah, so it was it

1071
00:48:46,080 --> 00:48:47,960
Speaker 8: was a lot of things going on, a lot of

1072
00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:50,799
Speaker 8: things that have anxiety about, to be honest with you,

1073
00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:55,200
Speaker 8: but just being me and my personality, nothing I couldn't handle.

1074
00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:57,440
Speaker 8: And I think I came in and fit in with

1075
00:48:57,480 --> 00:48:58,120
Speaker 8: the guys good.

1076
00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:01,400
Speaker 5: Was it really quick training camp? I mean, obviously they

1077
00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:04,440
Speaker 5: were a good team, right, but I always felt that

1078
00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:06,640
Speaker 5: that old four team was the first one that was

1079
00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:09,880
Speaker 5: sort of there was There was no asterisks, there was

1080
00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:13,160
Speaker 5: no yeah butts, they were just dominant, and was there

1081
00:49:13,160 --> 00:49:15,200
Speaker 5: a moment where you just sort of felt like, Wow,

1082
00:49:15,239 --> 00:49:16,600
Speaker 5: this team can really be special.

1083
00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:19,759
Speaker 8: I think. I think when we went off to that

1084
00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:24,160
Speaker 8: five oh start, man, I was just like, yeah, we're

1085
00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:26,319
Speaker 8: pretty damn good, you know what I mean? And I

1086
00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:29,400
Speaker 8: don't only only the way we lose is if we

1087
00:49:29,480 --> 00:49:32,359
Speaker 8: beat ourselves type thing. And and I kind of felt that,

1088
00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:36,799
Speaker 8: you know, because we're dominant on defense and and we

1089
00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:40,920
Speaker 8: got great players on offense. So I really felt overall,

1090
00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:44,880
Speaker 8: only way we losing it we beat our stuff and

1091
00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:49,520
Speaker 8: make mistakes. So it during that whole season, I mean,

1092
00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:57,120
Speaker 8: everybody I like, I like players, holding players accountable offense

1093
00:49:57,200 --> 00:49:59,399
Speaker 8: and defense. That's what we did all year man. So

1094
00:50:00,920 --> 00:50:04,320
Speaker 8: it it it panned out and it kept us focus

1095
00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:07,640
Speaker 8: as just coming in and you know the you know

1096
00:50:07,719 --> 00:50:12,880
Speaker 8: the famous quote, just do your job, you know, and

1097
00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:16,839
Speaker 8: that's what we did. And and players held everybody accountable

1098
00:50:17,239 --> 00:50:20,960
Speaker 8: for just doing your job. So and if you're off,

1099
00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:23,799
Speaker 8: you're not. You know, other players can sense that, you

1100
00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:28,000
Speaker 8: know what I mean. And it's just the the confidence

1101
00:50:28,360 --> 00:50:31,320
Speaker 8: another player will give you when you may be struggling

1102
00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:33,600
Speaker 8: a little bit to go out there and perform man

1103
00:50:34,040 --> 00:50:36,680
Speaker 8: means everything. That's a that signs up a good team.

1104
00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:41,440
Speaker 10: When someone accidentally threw away the school play costumes, oh no,

1105
00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:45,320
Speaker 10: replacements were shipped with FedEx and with picture proof of delivery,

1106
00:50:45,480 --> 00:50:49,240
Speaker 10: everyone could focus on the perfect opening night FedEx where

1107
00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:52,120
Speaker 10: now it's next for residential delivery only.

1108
00:50:53,880 --> 00:50:55,960
Speaker 5: And now great moments in.

1109
00:50:58,239 --> 00:51:00,680
Speaker 6: History pause, you know, calling out numbers and I was like, yeah,

1110
00:51:00,680 --> 00:51:02,680
Speaker 6: I just I just don't see twelve out there yet,

1111
00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:03,759
Speaker 6: like making the joke and.

1112
00:51:03,800 --> 00:51:05,400
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, and I go, we have I go, they

1113
00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:06,000
Speaker 5: gave twelve.

1114
00:51:06,040 --> 00:51:06,920
Speaker 4: Weve who's twelve?

1115
00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:09,600
Speaker 3: Like that's how little did you see twelve of them?

1116
00:51:09,640 --> 00:51:12,000
Speaker 4: I'm like, I said it like four times.

1117
00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:14,560
Speaker 5: I literally said it four times, and I was like,

1118
00:51:14,600 --> 00:51:15,600
Speaker 5: they didn't go out twelve.

1119
00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:17,440
Speaker 6: And then you like the look on your faces, like,

1120
00:51:17,560 --> 00:51:21,120
Speaker 6: oh you playing me like that guy like Fred, I

1121
00:51:21,600 --> 00:51:23,120
Speaker 6: don't like you got eighty seven either.

1122
00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:25,080
Speaker 3: Just for the record, Yeah, I don't know that was, But.

1123
00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:26,400
Speaker 5: Is there ever going to be a time where you

1124
00:51:26,400 --> 00:51:29,040
Speaker 5: were allowed to do that? Like twelve? I get. Yeah,

1125
00:51:30,520 --> 00:51:34,759
Speaker 5: Well I'm sorry, I'm over it. I mean, I love Devin. Yeah,

1126
00:51:34,840 --> 00:51:36,480
Speaker 5: at least I didn't even play last year.

1127
00:51:37,640 --> 00:51:40,880
Speaker 3: It's to me, Devin McCarty is bigger than football. Like,

1128
00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:42,640
Speaker 3: I think Devin McCarty is like one of the best

1129
00:51:42,640 --> 00:51:44,160
Speaker 3: people that's ever walked through this building.

1130
00:51:44,600 --> 00:51:47,440
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, And I think that there's and he's recognized

1131
00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:47,839
Speaker 5: as such.

1132
00:51:48,360 --> 00:51:50,960
Speaker 3: I think that in other sports that would be recognized

1133
00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:52,759
Speaker 3: even bigger, and this is not one of them.

1134
00:51:52,760 --> 00:51:55,200
Speaker 2: In your argument, no one ever should be Devin mccordy.

1135
00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:57,640
Speaker 2: I get that, but his number is different.

1136
00:51:57,960 --> 00:51:59,040
Speaker 4: That's just the way I feel.

1137
00:51:59,120 --> 00:52:00,760
Speaker 1: That's another moment.

1138
00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:06,920
Speaker 2: All right back here on Patriots Unfiltered, it's Paul, it's Deuce,

1139
00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:10,040
Speaker 2: it's me, it's Matt Evan.

1140
00:52:10,120 --> 00:52:12,719
Speaker 5: A good memory right there, Mike making fun of me

1141
00:52:13,120 --> 00:52:16,440
Speaker 5: on the practice field. Matt, he got me, Well he

1142
00:52:16,520 --> 00:52:18,080
Speaker 5: got twelve.

1143
00:52:18,080 --> 00:52:22,080
Speaker 2: Who's twelve? Matt'll be bye later. I mean not Matt

1144
00:52:22,320 --> 00:52:23,600
Speaker 2: Evan practice before.

1145
00:52:23,680 --> 00:52:27,520
Speaker 4: Maybe we can spin his song for him. Okay, all right,

1146
00:52:27,600 --> 00:52:28,520
Speaker 4: I need a locker room.

1147
00:52:28,719 --> 00:52:31,240
Speaker 2: Web radio at Patriots dot com. Is the email address

1148
00:52:31,480 --> 00:52:34,480
Speaker 2: eight five five pass five hundred is the eight ticket houtline.

1149
00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:38,919
Speaker 2: And let's go to the Patriots hutline right now. Let's

1150
00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:42,120
Speaker 2: see what our listeners and viewers have to say. Anthony's

1151
00:52:42,120 --> 00:52:50,280
Speaker 2: in Toronto? What's up Anthony? Anthony and Toronto? I guess

1152
00:52:50,840 --> 00:52:53,480
Speaker 2: he isn't there anymore.

1153
00:52:54,040 --> 00:52:54,479
Speaker 8: It's sad.

1154
00:52:54,680 --> 00:53:00,239
Speaker 5: Yeah, he'll call back, I'm sure Toronto. Oh, well, when

1155
00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:02,640
Speaker 5: Danny Amidola hung up on Adam Jones.

1156
00:53:02,440 --> 00:53:04,759
Speaker 2: It be nice. It'd be nice when they hang up,

1157
00:53:04,840 --> 00:53:07,560
Speaker 2: like if they hung up, like they're gone from the screen.

1158
00:53:08,920 --> 00:53:09,120
Speaker 2: You know.

1159
00:53:09,719 --> 00:53:11,719
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'd like to make fun of you, But I

1160
00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:14,080
Speaker 5: don't think you did anything wrong there. He wasn't waiting

1161
00:53:14,239 --> 00:53:16,839
Speaker 5: all that long either. No, it's only like twenty twenty

1162
00:53:16,840 --> 00:53:17,319
Speaker 5: five minutes.

1163
00:53:17,560 --> 00:53:21,200
Speaker 2: Rude, I mean, just rude. Let's get to some of

1164
00:53:21,239 --> 00:53:22,719
Speaker 2: these emails that are coming in.

1165
00:53:23,239 --> 00:53:26,600
Speaker 5: Read them, yeah, read them on loud, Mike, it looks

1166
00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:27,239
Speaker 5: like a long one.

1167
00:53:27,320 --> 00:53:30,880
Speaker 2: Mike and Boca Ratan talking about the j E eleven

1168
00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:33,880
Speaker 2: Games with Name podcast he said there was some good

1169
00:53:33,960 --> 00:53:36,239
Speaker 2: nuggets in there. He had Josh mcdann's I heard there

1170
00:53:36,280 --> 00:53:36,520
Speaker 2: was like.

1171
00:53:38,360 --> 00:53:39,879
Speaker 4: Through an an hour and twenty minutes.

1172
00:53:39,880 --> 00:53:41,880
Speaker 5: So I look forward to this email to tell me

1173
00:53:41,920 --> 00:53:43,200
Speaker 5: what I will never listen to.

1174
00:53:43,840 --> 00:53:47,040
Speaker 2: Some of the nuggets. Josh discuss how Belichick would have

1175
00:53:47,120 --> 00:53:50,200
Speaker 2: the coaches towards the end of the year look for

1176
00:53:50,320 --> 00:53:53,040
Speaker 2: plays they might run in the playoffs that were on

1177
00:53:53,120 --> 00:53:57,280
Speaker 2: game tape for this game. That meant the double pass

1178
00:53:57,440 --> 00:54:02,319
Speaker 2: and ineligible receiver plays. Okay, I guess he was talking

1179
00:54:02,320 --> 00:54:03,920
Speaker 2: about the Ravens game.

1180
00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:06,880
Speaker 5: Obviously that was their games with names.

1181
00:54:07,080 --> 00:54:10,719
Speaker 2: Oh, I see, gotcha. Belichick told Josh to save the

1182
00:54:10,760 --> 00:54:14,279
Speaker 2: ineligible receiver play for the second half. He didn't want

1183
00:54:14,280 --> 00:54:17,520
Speaker 2: the Ravens to be able to make halftime adjustments. He

1184
00:54:17,560 --> 00:54:20,200
Speaker 2: thought it would be more difficult to make sideline adjustments.

1185
00:54:20,239 --> 00:54:24,840
Speaker 2: Good Bill told Josh not to use many running plays,

1186
00:54:25,120 --> 00:54:28,520
Speaker 2: focus on the pass. Josh told the story about sharing

1187
00:54:28,560 --> 00:54:31,240
Speaker 2: this with Dante. He compared it to telling your wife

1188
00:54:31,320 --> 00:54:34,120
Speaker 2: you wanted to take an overseas golf trip with the guys.

1189
00:54:34,160 --> 00:54:36,560
Speaker 5: Only that's a good one.

1190
00:54:36,719 --> 00:54:41,120
Speaker 2: Yeah. And Josh explained how former Patriots coach Dean Peas

1191
00:54:41,640 --> 00:54:44,080
Speaker 2: called the blitz on the double pass, which was the

1192
00:54:44,120 --> 00:54:48,040
Speaker 2: perfect defense for the Patriots to be successful on that play.

1193
00:54:48,680 --> 00:54:51,120
Speaker 6: Yeah, I haven't gotten all the way through it yea

1194
00:54:51,360 --> 00:54:55,279
Speaker 6: hour and twenty, but some good stuff in there that

1195
00:54:55,280 --> 00:54:56,840
Speaker 6: that he kind of mentioned. And I thought it was

1196
00:54:56,840 --> 00:55:00,520
Speaker 6: funny because he said the week of the prep for

1197
00:55:00,560 --> 00:55:03,680
Speaker 6: the Ravens, Josh went into Bill's office and Bill was like,

1198
00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:05,759
Speaker 6: he would say something cryptic, kind of just like, yeah,

1199
00:55:05,760 --> 00:55:06,320
Speaker 6: I don't think.

1200
00:55:06,160 --> 00:55:07,760
Speaker 4: We're going to be a lot of running this week.

1201
00:55:08,160 --> 00:55:08,319
Speaker 8: You know.

1202
00:55:08,360 --> 00:55:09,919
Speaker 6: He says something kind of like this, so Josh should

1203
00:55:09,920 --> 00:55:11,960
Speaker 6: be like, so, do you not want me to put

1204
00:55:12,120 --> 00:55:13,719
Speaker 6: any running plays it? You know, it's kind of like

1205
00:55:13,760 --> 00:55:15,520
Speaker 6: and then he had to go and share it with Dante.

1206
00:55:16,719 --> 00:55:18,239
Speaker 6: I forget what the exact stats were. I mean they

1207
00:55:18,280 --> 00:55:19,960
Speaker 6: ran the bout like eight times the whole game. Of course,

1208
00:55:19,960 --> 00:55:22,160
Speaker 6: they were down you know, fourteen zip quick and they

1209
00:55:22,200 --> 00:55:24,680
Speaker 6: were always kind of chasing instead of four. So anyway,

1210
00:55:24,719 --> 00:55:27,279
Speaker 6: but you know, one really interesting point, and this keeps

1211
00:55:27,280 --> 00:55:29,240
Speaker 6: coming up, and it's just something that I've never quite

1212
00:55:29,239 --> 00:55:33,480
Speaker 6: been able to reconcile in my head, is the perception

1213
00:55:33,600 --> 00:55:36,560
Speaker 6: out there that Bill Belichick wanted to do it all

1214
00:55:36,640 --> 00:55:38,120
Speaker 6: himself and that you know, we didn't want to listen

1215
00:55:38,120 --> 00:55:39,520
Speaker 6: to anybody and you know, my way of the highway

1216
00:55:39,560 --> 00:55:39,880
Speaker 6: kind of thing.

1217
00:55:39,920 --> 00:55:40,560
Speaker 4: And again in.

1218
00:55:40,520 --> 00:55:44,040
Speaker 6: This podcast, it was reiterated by Edelman and Josh of

1219
00:55:44,080 --> 00:55:44,719
Speaker 6: how much he.

1220
00:55:44,640 --> 00:55:46,640
Speaker 4: Would look for input from everybody.

1221
00:55:46,960 --> 00:55:50,040
Speaker 6: And what Edelman kind of said was He'll come up

1222
00:55:50,040 --> 00:55:52,120
Speaker 6: and ask you, but he said, don't if you don't know,

1223
00:55:52,160 --> 00:55:53,640
Speaker 6: don't make it up because I'm not coming back to

1224
00:55:53,680 --> 00:55:56,000
Speaker 6: you again. And you know, even Edelman said, I, you know,

1225
00:55:56,040 --> 00:55:57,560
Speaker 6: I was surprised Bill come up to me and say,

1226
00:55:57,600 --> 00:55:59,080
Speaker 6: you know, what are you seeing these kind of things? So,

1227
00:55:59,360 --> 00:56:02,200
Speaker 6: you know, they just both of them kind of expressed

1228
00:56:02,480 --> 00:56:05,640
Speaker 6: confusion as to why you know that this wasn't something

1229
00:56:05,680 --> 00:56:07,960
Speaker 6: that people and because I thought Halberstam wrote it in

1230
00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:10,080
Speaker 6: the book too of you know, I don't know.

1231
00:56:10,120 --> 00:56:11,879
Speaker 4: You can criticize Belichick for a lot of things.

1232
00:56:11,920 --> 00:56:13,879
Speaker 6: I just don't know, you know, where the truth lies

1233
00:56:13,920 --> 00:56:16,280
Speaker 6: in this one, because he does seem like he valued

1234
00:56:16,360 --> 00:56:18,880
Speaker 6: input from everybody. Didn't mean that he took it from everybody,

1235
00:56:19,280 --> 00:56:21,480
Speaker 6: but that he was willing to talk to players, to

1236
00:56:21,960 --> 00:56:24,440
Speaker 6: his coaches. He wanted that so he could make the

1237
00:56:24,440 --> 00:56:25,560
Speaker 6: best decision possible.

1238
00:56:26,200 --> 00:56:28,680
Speaker 5: I would say the difference was toward the end, he

1239
00:56:28,719 --> 00:56:33,080
Speaker 5: didn't have the answers. Those guys didn't have the answers. Yeah,

1240
00:56:33,239 --> 00:56:36,040
Speaker 5: you know, Josh, wasn't there anymore guys like Edelman that

1241
00:56:36,160 --> 00:56:39,040
Speaker 5: had done it. Weren't there anymore Ernie. And he's dealing

1242
00:56:39,080 --> 00:56:43,440
Speaker 5: with a lot of coaches who, frankly, weren't quite ready

1243
00:56:43,440 --> 00:56:44,480
Speaker 5: for the jobs that they had.

1244
00:56:45,320 --> 00:56:48,000
Speaker 2: I think when it came to game planning, there's no

1245
00:56:48,040 --> 00:56:50,359
Speaker 2: one even in his stratisfy and he just.

1246
00:56:50,320 --> 00:56:54,680
Speaker 5: Like that anecdote that Mike just explained, Bill had the

1247
00:56:54,719 --> 00:56:57,719
Speaker 5: game plan on offense, right, I don't think we're going

1248
00:56:57,760 --> 00:56:59,160
Speaker 5: to run the ball that much this week, you know.

1249
00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:01,960
Speaker 5: And then Josh is like, okay, so you don't want

1250
00:57:01,960 --> 00:57:04,239
Speaker 5: me to put any running plays in this week, you know? Yea.

1251
00:57:04,320 --> 00:57:07,120
Speaker 5: And then we saw that in the nine one where

1252
00:57:08,040 --> 00:57:10,920
Speaker 5: Brady sits with Belichick and they're going over this, that

1253
00:57:11,000 --> 00:57:12,919
Speaker 5: and the other thing, and then Brady gets up he goes, Okay,

1254
00:57:12,920 --> 00:57:16,160
Speaker 5: I'm gonna go I'll go tell Billy, oh, yeah, like

1255
00:57:16,720 --> 00:57:20,400
Speaker 5: this it's really not cryptic. Well, Bill Belichick, I think

1256
00:57:20,400 --> 00:57:22,320
Speaker 5: stuff together, and then those guys implement.

1257
00:57:22,440 --> 00:57:25,280
Speaker 2: I think what people question, and even people within the

1258
00:57:25,360 --> 00:57:28,840
Speaker 2: team question, is it's more the drafting and the free

1259
00:57:28,840 --> 00:57:32,600
Speaker 2: agent stuff, and it's like, Okay, my kids will walk

1260
00:57:32,680 --> 00:57:35,080
Speaker 2: on on Rutgers and great Cianna's the coach, and all

1261
00:57:35,080 --> 00:57:37,400
Speaker 2: of a sudden, we're drafting Rutgers guys. I think we

1262
00:57:37,480 --> 00:57:41,160
Speaker 2: never did that before. I mean, these coaches and scouts,

1263
00:57:41,320 --> 00:57:44,360
Speaker 2: they know what's going on. It's not you know, and

1264
00:57:44,400 --> 00:57:47,560
Speaker 2: they so they question that, like if you're just gonna

1265
00:57:48,560 --> 00:57:51,800
Speaker 2: you know, you know, and not that. Obviously people that

1266
00:57:51,880 --> 00:57:55,120
Speaker 2: he got from Rutgers were good, like mccordy, but like,

1267
00:57:55,160 --> 00:57:56,480
Speaker 2: if you're just gonna do that, what do you need

1268
00:57:56,560 --> 00:57:56,760
Speaker 2: us for?

1269
00:57:56,880 --> 00:57:58,520
Speaker 6: I think that's a great way to put it, Fred, Like,

1270
00:57:58,640 --> 00:58:00,880
Speaker 6: I mean that's maybe where the line is strong. Where

1271
00:58:00,880 --> 00:58:02,919
Speaker 6: it was when it was coaching and it was game

1272
00:58:02,920 --> 00:58:06,560
Speaker 6: plan stuff. Yeah, very much wanted input and when it

1273
00:58:06,720 --> 00:58:09,840
Speaker 6: was what players I'm picking. I'm going to give myself

1274
00:58:09,880 --> 00:58:11,760
Speaker 6: well for the doubt over every wanted.

1275
00:58:11,720 --> 00:58:15,360
Speaker 2: And I mentioned Greg Ciano, but there were other guys

1276
00:58:15,400 --> 00:58:18,680
Speaker 2: that he wanted to do favors for, you know, like

1277
00:58:18,760 --> 00:58:22,040
Speaker 2: because when an NFL team takes a player from a

1278
00:58:22,040 --> 00:58:24,960
Speaker 2: certain college, that's a badge of honor for that college

1279
00:58:25,120 --> 00:58:28,480
Speaker 2: and especially that head coach. Oh look, how many of

1280
00:58:28,480 --> 00:58:30,800
Speaker 2: my guys made it to the NFL and we're not

1281
00:58:30,840 --> 00:58:33,640
Speaker 2: even a big school, you know. So Bill was doing

1282
00:58:33,680 --> 00:58:37,600
Speaker 2: that guy a favor for whatever reason, and scouts see

1283
00:58:37,640 --> 00:58:40,000
Speaker 2: that and it's like, well, we're putting in all this

1284
00:58:40,160 --> 00:58:44,400
Speaker 2: work and you know you're drafting a guy for other reasons.

1285
00:58:45,120 --> 00:58:47,240
Speaker 5: I think that was speaking of the badge of honor

1286
00:58:47,360 --> 00:58:49,080
Speaker 5: for the colleges. Did you guys happen to see the

1287
00:58:49,080 --> 00:58:51,120
Speaker 5: thing that was making the rounds on Twitter this morning?

1288
00:58:51,800 --> 00:58:57,400
Speaker 5: In the off season, former Alabama players have signed contracts

1289
00:58:57,760 --> 00:59:03,960
Speaker 5: combined worth over a billion with a B dollars, you know,

1290
00:59:04,040 --> 00:59:06,960
Speaker 5: like Jalen Waddle and Tua and you know Barmore.

1291
00:59:07,320 --> 00:59:09,680
Speaker 4: Oh, by the way, I Bury, the lead Barbour was

1292
00:59:09,680 --> 00:59:10,520
Speaker 4: in the locker room too.

1293
00:59:10,600 --> 00:59:11,760
Speaker 5: Barber was in the locker room.

1294
00:59:11,920 --> 00:59:14,040
Speaker 4: I didn't, you know, talk to anybody so hanging out

1295
00:59:14,040 --> 00:59:15,440
Speaker 4: with the question about Barmore.

1296
00:59:15,560 --> 00:59:17,840
Speaker 5: And I'm not a lawyer, so I will ask a

1297
00:59:17,920 --> 00:59:22,280
Speaker 5: question I don't have the answer to. And I believe

1298
00:59:22,480 --> 00:59:25,160
Speaker 5: today was the first Mayo press conference that I did

1299
00:59:25,160 --> 00:59:30,120
Speaker 5: not either attend or read the entirety of the transcript.

1300
00:59:30,520 --> 00:59:35,280
Speaker 5: Yet they put him on n FI on according to

1301
00:59:35,360 --> 00:59:39,080
Speaker 5: the wire, the NFL wire, they designated him as one

1302
00:59:39,080 --> 00:59:41,800
Speaker 5: of their two guys designated to return. The other one

1303
00:59:41,840 --> 00:59:48,840
Speaker 5: was Marty Marpool. Why why do you think because they

1304
00:59:48,840 --> 00:59:50,800
Speaker 5: think he might return? Well, do you think that?

1305
00:59:51,280 --> 00:59:53,360
Speaker 6: I think it was more just let's leave the door open.

1306
00:59:53,400 --> 00:59:56,280
Speaker 6: There's no information of we think he's going to be

1307
00:59:56,320 --> 00:59:58,720
Speaker 6: able to return, but we don't have anyone else to

1308
00:59:58,800 --> 00:59:59,720
Speaker 6: use this on right now.

1309
01:00:00,080 --> 01:00:02,360
Speaker 4: Let's just keep the door open. Who knows, maybe he's

1310
01:00:02,400 --> 01:00:02,800
Speaker 4: able to come.

1311
01:00:02,920 --> 01:00:05,680
Speaker 5: But here's the thing is, they didn't need to have two.

1312
01:00:06,720 --> 01:00:10,680
Speaker 5: You can only have two the day of final cuts,

1313
01:00:10,720 --> 01:00:13,640
Speaker 5: the final roster cutdown date, you can only have two,

1314
01:00:14,160 --> 01:00:17,560
Speaker 5: but you can have as many as eight during you

1315
01:00:17,640 --> 01:00:20,880
Speaker 5: might need you might need that. Yeah, during the season.

1316
01:00:21,280 --> 01:00:23,160
Speaker 4: Well, I mean I would say, unless I'm layer worth,

1317
01:00:23,200 --> 01:00:25,040
Speaker 4: he's a player worth taking that right, unless.

1318
01:00:24,760 --> 01:00:27,760
Speaker 5: I'm misunderstanding the way the rule was was written to me.

1319
01:00:27,840 --> 01:00:30,400
Speaker 6: You know now, I mean I think he's worth having

1320
01:00:30,400 --> 01:00:31,800
Speaker 6: the rest of the fun Another funny thing I just

1321
01:00:31,880 --> 01:00:36,200
Speaker 6: overheard was a quality talking to Barmore and he's literally

1322
01:00:36,320 --> 01:00:38,800
Speaker 6: laying out exactly what I laid out. Was Like, Man,

1323
01:00:39,000 --> 01:00:41,200
Speaker 6: two years ago you got hurt and I was in

1324
01:00:41,240 --> 01:00:42,920
Speaker 6: there and I played a bunch, and then last year

1325
01:00:42,960 --> 01:00:45,920
Speaker 6: you got hurt and I was there, you were in there, yeah,

1326
01:00:45,960 --> 01:00:47,520
Speaker 6: and then this and then this year, you're hurt. Now

1327
01:00:47,560 --> 01:00:48,680
Speaker 6: I'm going to be back in there. So they were

1328
01:00:48,760 --> 01:00:50,320
Speaker 6: kind of you know, pointing out the last.

1329
01:00:50,160 --> 01:00:52,040
Speaker 5: Two seasons, but you never seem to play together.

1330
01:00:52,080 --> 01:00:54,040
Speaker 4: Yeah right, They never never seemed to be out there

1331
01:00:54,040 --> 01:00:54,760
Speaker 4: at the same time.

1332
01:00:55,480 --> 01:00:57,760
Speaker 5: I just I thought that was interesting. I don't really

1333
01:00:57,800 --> 01:00:59,520
Speaker 5: think we've talked about it on the show. That is

1334
01:00:59,520 --> 01:01:03,960
Speaker 5: a a minute detail that came out of Cutts last week.

1335
01:01:04,000 --> 01:01:09,600
Speaker 2: It's a little curious that we haven't heard any prognosis, like, hey,

1336
01:01:09,800 --> 01:01:11,280
Speaker 2: you know things, you.

1337
01:01:11,280 --> 01:01:13,320
Speaker 5: Know, So I'm a little curious as to why no

1338
01:01:13,360 --> 01:01:14,760
Speaker 5: one has asked Male about it.

1339
01:01:14,840 --> 01:01:18,480
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, yeah, hopefully soon. I mean him being in

1340
01:01:18,520 --> 01:01:20,280
Speaker 6: the locker room though, maybe it's a sign that that,

1341
01:01:20,440 --> 01:01:22,800
Speaker 6: you know, there's more information or at least he seems

1342
01:01:22,840 --> 01:01:24,640
Speaker 6: like he's doing better, he's got under control.

1343
01:01:24,680 --> 01:01:27,280
Speaker 5: But I remember back in the day when Robert Edwards

1344
01:01:27,320 --> 01:01:30,160
Speaker 5: suffered that, you know, really tragic knee injury at the

1345
01:01:30,160 --> 01:01:33,240
Speaker 5: Pro Bowl when he was playing the Beach the Beach game.

1346
01:01:35,560 --> 01:01:37,680
Speaker 5: So the next year, you know, obviously he was out

1347
01:01:37,840 --> 01:01:39,880
Speaker 5: you know, the whole next year, and every once in

1348
01:01:39,880 --> 01:01:44,280
Speaker 5: a while, he'd pop in the locker room. And I

1349
01:01:44,280 --> 01:01:50,280
Speaker 5: think Bruce Armstrong once goes hey, Robert Son, they they'll

1350
01:01:50,280 --> 01:01:53,160
Speaker 5: mail the check to you, bro, They'll mail it to

1351
01:01:53,200 --> 01:01:54,520
Speaker 5: you. You don't need to come in and get it.

1352
01:01:54,640 --> 01:01:56,240
Speaker 4: You know, that's funny.

1353
01:01:56,240 --> 01:02:00,720
Speaker 6: I forget who earlier this season though, after Barb was out,

1354
01:02:00,760 --> 01:02:02,040
Speaker 6: just said, you know, we want him around more, We

1355
01:02:02,080 --> 01:02:03,360
Speaker 6: want him to come in, you know. So it was

1356
01:02:03,760 --> 01:02:05,320
Speaker 6: it was just good to good to see him there.

1357
01:02:05,320 --> 01:02:07,000
Speaker 6: You know, it's always those guys get hurt. You feel

1358
01:02:07,040 --> 01:02:08,840
Speaker 6: like they disappear into the nether and see and I

1359
01:02:08,960 --> 01:02:09,600
Speaker 6: used to be the.

1360
01:02:09,520 --> 01:02:12,640
Speaker 2: Thing, you know, you know, like they coaches didn't want

1361
01:02:12,720 --> 01:02:15,120
Speaker 2: hurt guys around. Yeah, you know, give.

1362
01:02:15,000 --> 01:02:17,320
Speaker 6: Me a couple more nuggets though from the Edelman thing

1363
01:02:17,320 --> 01:02:19,680
Speaker 6: that I thought were interesting, just I never put together

1364
01:02:19,680 --> 01:02:21,680
Speaker 6: that Edelman kind of felt like a Billy O guy

1365
01:02:22,080 --> 01:02:24,360
Speaker 6: because he came in with Billy Oh as the offensive coordinator,

1366
01:02:24,400 --> 01:02:27,320
Speaker 6: and when Josh came in, Edelman initially kind of felt

1367
01:02:27,320 --> 01:02:29,040
Speaker 6: like he was gonna get iced out. And I think

1368
01:02:29,160 --> 01:02:33,280
Speaker 6: he said Josh brought back Dante Stalwarts. I think Gaffney

1369
01:02:33,320 --> 01:02:35,960
Speaker 6: he said Gaffney too, I remember stal Wars coming back

1370
01:02:36,000 --> 01:02:37,120
Speaker 6: and maybe it's like twenty thirteen.

1371
01:02:37,240 --> 01:02:39,360
Speaker 5: I definitely remember Star Wars, and I'm not sure about Gaffney.

1372
01:02:39,400 --> 01:02:41,160
Speaker 5: I don't remember Gaffney.

1373
01:02:41,280 --> 01:02:43,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, but I thought that was kind of interesting. I

1374
01:02:43,560 --> 01:02:46,480
Speaker 4: never thought of it quite that way. You know, they

1375
01:02:46,520 --> 01:02:47,960
Speaker 4: talked about I mean he said he said the.

1376
01:02:48,000 --> 01:02:50,040
Speaker 6: Forty nine ers were often or more money like to

1377
01:02:50,080 --> 01:02:53,160
Speaker 6: go out there Edelman and he ended up sticking around

1378
01:02:53,160 --> 01:02:55,560
Speaker 6: here and obviously it all it all started to click,

1379
01:02:55,600 --> 01:02:57,920
Speaker 6: But no good nuggets I enjoyed. I haven't listened to

1380
01:02:57,920 --> 01:02:59,960
Speaker 6: any of those podcasts before. Which I didn't realize going

1381
01:03:00,080 --> 01:03:02,360
Speaker 6: in is that he he takes I mean, I'm stupid,

1382
01:03:02,400 --> 01:03:04,080
Speaker 6: I know, but he takes the games with names and

1383
01:03:04,080 --> 01:03:05,880
Speaker 6: then he just talks about that game with one person.

1384
01:03:05,920 --> 01:03:08,600
Speaker 6: It sounds like he lets the guest pick which they're

1385
01:03:08,600 --> 01:03:09,000
Speaker 6: gonna do.

1386
01:03:10,400 --> 01:03:11,920
Speaker 4: You know we always talk about all the time.

1387
01:03:11,920 --> 01:03:14,520
Speaker 5: You like, Mike and I invented this.

1388
01:03:15,120 --> 01:03:20,720
Speaker 6: I'm not, well, it's like how many Patriot Patriot games

1389
01:03:20,760 --> 01:03:22,640
Speaker 6: with names that you you know that you can remember

1390
01:03:22,680 --> 01:03:24,280
Speaker 6: this that's an easy way. And but I and he's

1391
01:03:24,280 --> 01:03:26,760
Speaker 6: done like the a Rod slapping game, and you know

1392
01:03:26,880 --> 01:03:30,200
Speaker 6: he's a little Yeah, initially I thought it was just

1393
01:03:30,280 --> 01:03:32,360
Speaker 6: him kind of playing the greatest hits with you know,

1394
01:03:32,480 --> 01:03:35,280
Speaker 6: Ernie bringing people. But it's it's more, you know, it

1395
01:03:35,320 --> 01:03:37,200
Speaker 6: has a little bit more legs than than just being

1396
01:03:37,200 --> 01:03:38,400
Speaker 6: limited to the Patriots game.

1397
01:03:38,480 --> 01:03:42,040
Speaker 5: He's got the personality to pull it off to you know, he's.

1398
01:03:42,480 --> 01:03:44,040
Speaker 4: He was good. It was good.

1399
01:03:44,160 --> 01:03:44,360
Speaker 8: Uh.

1400
01:03:44,560 --> 01:03:46,480
Speaker 6: You know, he's got his guy laying everything out, and

1401
01:03:46,560 --> 01:03:48,400
Speaker 6: I mean, I just I enjoy the the little bit

1402
01:03:48,440 --> 01:03:51,360
Speaker 6: of behind the scenes. One other thing that stood out

1403
01:03:51,360 --> 01:03:52,560
Speaker 6: to me was just that, you know, when they had

1404
01:03:52,560 --> 01:03:54,680
Speaker 6: the bye week, how it's you know, he said a

1405
01:03:54,680 --> 01:03:56,240
Speaker 6: lot of people think, like, oh, the bye week, it's

1406
01:03:56,280 --> 01:03:58,000
Speaker 6: like about getting healthy and stuff, and He's like, you know,

1407
01:03:58,000 --> 01:04:00,520
Speaker 6: we would really try to figure out out a way

1408
01:04:00,560 --> 01:04:02,880
Speaker 6: to get an advantage in these games. And you know,

1409
01:04:02,920 --> 01:04:06,080
Speaker 6: what can we do that isn't on tape yet that

1410
01:04:06,080 --> 01:04:07,520
Speaker 6: we can come up. I mean, they mentioned they threw

1411
01:04:07,520 --> 01:04:09,280
Speaker 6: the double they tried to throw the double pass against

1412
01:04:09,360 --> 01:04:11,840
Speaker 6: Kansas City in twenty fourteen, but they you know, waved

1413
01:04:11,840 --> 01:04:13,800
Speaker 6: it off because it wasn't there, so they saved it.

1414
01:04:14,560 --> 01:04:16,880
Speaker 6: So just that little beyond Josh is great. I mean,

1415
01:04:16,920 --> 01:04:19,400
Speaker 6: I just I have trouble im saying that to Paul.

1416
01:04:19,560 --> 01:04:21,880
Speaker 6: I think yesterday at our drinks that, Like, I just

1417
01:04:21,920 --> 01:04:25,520
Speaker 6: have so much trouble reconciling like the person that I've

1418
01:04:25,600 --> 01:04:27,560
Speaker 6: seen a few times in person and kind of the

1419
01:04:27,600 --> 01:04:30,520
Speaker 6: vibe he gets, and then these Raider players all, you know,

1420
01:04:30,640 --> 01:04:32,560
Speaker 6: seem to really not like him. And I just don't,

1421
01:04:32,560 --> 01:04:34,240
Speaker 6: you know, I don't know if he puts on a

1422
01:04:34,280 --> 01:04:37,000
Speaker 6: different facade when he's coaching or what, but it's I mean,

1423
01:04:37,040 --> 01:04:39,200
Speaker 6: he generally to me seems like, you know, a nice guy,

1424
01:04:39,280 --> 01:04:40,560
Speaker 6: guy that I would want to play for.

1425
01:04:40,680 --> 01:04:44,520
Speaker 5: I never had anything resembling a bad interaction with Josh,

1426
01:04:44,760 --> 01:04:47,200
Speaker 5: and he was here for a long time. Yeah, you know,

1427
01:04:47,280 --> 01:04:49,400
Speaker 5: when we go back, you know, I'm not saying like,

1428
01:04:49,440 --> 01:04:51,560
Speaker 5: you know, Josh and Paul they're great friends. No, we're not,

1429
01:04:51,640 --> 01:04:54,520
Speaker 5: you know, Like, but I go back to like the

1430
01:04:54,640 --> 01:04:57,480
Speaker 5: early two thousands, sitting down with him and Brian Dable

1431
01:04:57,800 --> 01:05:02,080
Speaker 5: when they were both assistants coaching assistant US YEA, and

1432
01:05:02,160 --> 01:05:04,520
Speaker 5: they used to write out the formations on cards like

1433
01:05:04,600 --> 01:05:07,000
Speaker 5: index countings, have to lock them all and put them

1434
01:05:07,040 --> 01:05:10,480
Speaker 5: in a like a loose leaf notebook and stuff like that,

1435
01:05:10,680 --> 01:05:14,480
Speaker 5: and I just like, I'm with Mike, I can't really

1436
01:05:14,920 --> 01:05:18,880
Speaker 5: understand guys fail. Like guys, there's some guys that are

1437
01:05:18,920 --> 01:05:21,360
Speaker 5: just great assistant coaches, they just not cut out to

1438
01:05:21,360 --> 01:05:25,000
Speaker 5: be head coaches. Dad, I understand this. I don't the

1439
01:05:25,120 --> 01:05:27,640
Speaker 5: visceral reaction you get when you talk to people from

1440
01:05:27,640 --> 01:05:30,960
Speaker 5: Denver and now with the Raiders when it comes to

1441
01:05:31,000 --> 01:05:32,400
Speaker 5: Josh McDaniels, I don't get.

1442
01:05:32,480 --> 01:05:34,080
Speaker 6: And even when we saw him out there, like we

1443
01:05:34,200 --> 01:05:35,919
Speaker 6: you know, we went to a press conference out there

1444
01:05:35,960 --> 01:05:38,000
Speaker 6: with you know, listen to him and in his element,

1445
01:05:38,080 --> 01:05:40,480
Speaker 6: and it's still seemed like the same Josh. And then

1446
01:05:40,720 --> 01:05:43,240
Speaker 6: you know he's gone and they're lighting up stogies in

1447
01:05:43,560 --> 01:05:45,200
Speaker 6: the locker room afterwards.

1448
01:05:44,760 --> 01:05:46,400
Speaker 4: Like ding dong, the witch is dead.

1449
01:05:46,440 --> 01:05:50,320
Speaker 5: Like they did not they did not like him personally.

1450
01:05:50,480 --> 01:05:51,000
Speaker 4: Strange.

1451
01:05:51,560 --> 01:05:53,200
Speaker 2: Aaron's in Utah. What's up Aaron?

1452
01:05:54,880 --> 01:05:58,480
Speaker 13: Hey, guys, this is a different Aaron in Utah. Long time,

1453
01:05:58,560 --> 01:06:02,240
Speaker 13: second time Color just throwing to reach out and get

1454
01:06:02,240 --> 01:06:07,640
Speaker 13: here ideas on labeling and expectations. A lot of a

1455
01:06:07,640 --> 01:06:09,480
Speaker 13: lot of the people are saying the Chargers are the

1456
01:06:09,600 --> 01:06:13,640
Speaker 13: Ravens of the South. I was wondering if we might

1457
01:06:13,680 --> 01:06:16,600
Speaker 13: be labeled as the Browns in the East. You know,

1458
01:06:17,160 --> 01:06:19,720
Speaker 13: we got the coach, We've got Jakobe, We've got a

1459
01:06:19,760 --> 01:06:23,760
Speaker 13: strong defense, just like the Browns did last year. I'll

1460
01:06:23,760 --> 01:06:24,920
Speaker 13: take it off from here, thank you.

1461
01:06:25,320 --> 01:06:29,880
Speaker 2: Okay, could we be the Browns of last year?

1462
01:06:30,680 --> 01:06:33,760
Speaker 5: I think in our division, I think there's some Oh

1463
01:06:33,840 --> 01:06:34,760
Speaker 5: is that what he's trying to say.

1464
01:06:34,760 --> 01:06:37,360
Speaker 2: I don't know. Like he said the Chargers of the Browns,

1465
01:06:37,960 --> 01:06:40,640
Speaker 2: the charge South, I think he meant the West the Ravens.

1466
01:06:40,680 --> 01:06:43,000
Speaker 5: But I don't really I don't understand why other than

1467
01:06:43,520 --> 01:06:45,640
Speaker 5: like Hardball's brother is now the coach of the Chargers

1468
01:06:45,720 --> 01:06:46,880
Speaker 5: that why.

1469
01:06:46,520 --> 01:06:47,919
Speaker 2: Oh, well, they're going to run the ball.

1470
01:06:48,480 --> 01:06:49,960
Speaker 4: I don't know. I didn't really understand that.

1471
01:06:50,120 --> 01:06:52,680
Speaker 5: Like Jim Habba has been a guy who believes in

1472
01:06:52,720 --> 01:06:55,439
Speaker 5: the running game, right, Like that's the kind of style John,

1473
01:06:55,680 --> 01:06:58,320
Speaker 5: but he's not well, John has a running.

1474
01:06:58,080 --> 01:07:00,439
Speaker 4: Quarterback, Lamar Jackson, Like he wasn't.

1475
01:07:00,600 --> 01:07:04,440
Speaker 5: They weren't a running team necessarily when Joe Bowl, like

1476
01:07:04,480 --> 01:07:10,480
Speaker 5: this is Lamar Jackson running zone reads and whatnot. For Cleveland,

1477
01:07:10,600 --> 01:07:13,680
Speaker 5: there's obvious carryover. I mean, we have a lot of

1478
01:07:13,720 --> 01:07:18,160
Speaker 5: Cleveland personnel. You know, when Van Pelt, I think that's

1479
01:07:18,160 --> 01:07:21,000
Speaker 5: not an accident, you know, but it's Brissette, it's Hooper,

1480
01:07:21,280 --> 01:07:24,640
Speaker 5: you know, it's mockey hockey. I mean They're like, there's

1481
01:07:24,640 --> 01:07:26,920
Speaker 5: a handful of guys that they brought from Cleveland. Elliott

1482
01:07:26,920 --> 01:07:30,160
Speaker 5: will spend time there. Yeah, I think there's some similarities

1483
01:07:30,200 --> 01:07:33,040
Speaker 5: to we're running the Cleveland offense. I don't know if

1484
01:07:33,040 --> 01:07:36,760
Speaker 5: he's talking about the rest of the team, Like, I

1485
01:07:36,760 --> 01:07:38,800
Speaker 5: don't know if he's if looking for like a worster

1486
01:07:38,800 --> 01:07:39,800
Speaker 5: of first kind of thing.

1487
01:07:40,040 --> 01:07:42,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't I don't know see that or.

1488
01:07:42,560 --> 01:07:46,600
Speaker 2: Maybe just a competitive team. I don't know that does

1489
01:07:46,600 --> 01:07:47,800
Speaker 2: it with the run and defense.

1490
01:07:49,040 --> 01:07:49,960
Speaker 4: I mean, I'd like to believe it.

1491
01:07:50,000 --> 01:07:50,640
Speaker 2: That's what Cleveland.

1492
01:07:50,760 --> 01:07:52,560
Speaker 4: There's some big pieces in Cleveland.

1493
01:07:52,120 --> 01:07:54,840
Speaker 2: That was lighting it up.

1494
01:07:55,840 --> 01:07:58,400
Speaker 5: Cleveland was better than people think in terms of their roster.

1495
01:07:59,360 --> 01:08:02,200
Speaker 5: Cleveland's got an unbelievable roster of talent and they got

1496
01:08:02,280 --> 01:08:05,800
Speaker 5: hit with a ton of injuries and just kept winning,

1497
01:08:06,120 --> 01:08:10,960
Speaker 5: you know, but they also caught it right like this

1498
01:08:11,240 --> 01:08:15,080
Speaker 5: this kind of bugs. Yeah, and they made the playoffs,

1499
01:08:15,360 --> 01:08:19,280
Speaker 5: but they really weren't very good, you know, because Cincinnati

1500
01:08:19,320 --> 01:08:21,439
Speaker 5: lost their quarterback and wasn't anywhere near as good as

1501
01:08:21,479 --> 01:08:25,160
Speaker 5: they normally are. You know. People talk about the West, right,

1502
01:08:25,680 --> 01:08:28,960
Speaker 5: the Chargers, the Raiders, and the Broncos, they're all kind

1503
01:08:28,960 --> 01:08:32,040
Speaker 5: of stunk. But they all won like seven or eight

1504
01:08:32,040 --> 01:08:36,200
Speaker 5: games each. Well, yeah, but they weren't very good. And

1505
01:08:36,240 --> 01:08:37,960
Speaker 5: the reason why they won so many games is because

1506
01:08:37,960 --> 01:08:42,479
Speaker 5: they played each other twice. So yeah, you can rack

1507
01:08:42,560 --> 01:08:44,879
Speaker 5: up some wins, Like I don't think that the Patriots

1508
01:08:44,880 --> 01:08:47,920
Speaker 5: will have that advantage having to play the Jets, the Bills,

1509
01:08:47,920 --> 01:08:50,559
Speaker 5: and the Dolphins twice each. I think we would all

1510
01:08:50,600 --> 01:08:52,680
Speaker 5: probably sign up for a two to four record in

1511
01:08:52,720 --> 01:08:53,519
Speaker 5: the AFC East.

1512
01:08:53,880 --> 01:08:56,439
Speaker 2: Sure, as long as both wins are against the Jets,

1513
01:08:56,479 --> 01:08:57,000
Speaker 2: I'm good with that.

1514
01:08:57,280 --> 01:09:00,760
Speaker 5: But in all seriousness, how many games, realistically do you

1515
01:09:00,800 --> 01:09:02,760
Speaker 5: expect to win out of those six if all three

1516
01:09:02,800 --> 01:09:03,479
Speaker 5: of them are healthy?

1517
01:09:03,640 --> 01:09:05,639
Speaker 2: Right, it's fair enough.

1518
01:09:05,520 --> 01:09:08,960
Speaker 5: You know, whereas the Broncos, he usually could beat the

1519
01:09:09,040 --> 01:09:12,000
Speaker 5: Raiders or the Chargers, so I don't have to pull

1520
01:09:12,000 --> 01:09:14,000
Speaker 5: an upset to do not, just like the Chargers didn't

1521
01:09:14,000 --> 01:09:15,479
Speaker 5: have to pull an upset to beat the Raiders or

1522
01:09:15,479 --> 01:09:16,080
Speaker 5: the Broncos.

1523
01:09:16,400 --> 01:09:18,960
Speaker 6: That's interesting though, that those teams in the West kind

1524
01:09:18,960 --> 01:09:21,160
Speaker 6: of stunk based on the teams they wanted to have

1525
01:09:21,240 --> 01:09:24,040
Speaker 6: going in the season, whereas Cincinnati and Cleveland both you know,

1526
01:09:24,200 --> 01:09:28,040
Speaker 6: played well despite injuries, and you know, we're still competitive

1527
01:09:28,080 --> 01:09:30,400
Speaker 6: and enable. I mean, that's That's what I think you

1528
01:09:30,439 --> 01:09:32,360
Speaker 6: need to strive for as a team, with you know,

1529
01:09:32,760 --> 01:09:35,920
Speaker 6: focusing on Cincinnati this week. Their their ability to you know,

1530
01:09:35,960 --> 01:09:38,759
Speaker 6: you lose your quarterback and you're still in there fighting

1531
01:09:38,840 --> 01:09:41,519
Speaker 6: and able to you know, be competitive. I think that's

1532
01:09:41,520 --> 01:09:43,479
Speaker 6: a you know, that shows I think what direction that

1533
01:09:43,479 --> 01:09:44,559
Speaker 6: that franchise has moved in.

1534
01:09:45,400 --> 01:09:48,439
Speaker 2: Dorian writes in from Maryland. Is it crazy of me

1535
01:09:48,520 --> 01:09:51,479
Speaker 2: to believe that if there is any week for the

1536
01:09:51,479 --> 01:09:53,880
Speaker 2: Patriots to achieve an upset, it would be this one?

1537
01:09:54,240 --> 01:09:58,040
Speaker 2: The Bengals historically starts slow. Chase is a big question mark.

1538
01:09:58,120 --> 01:10:01,559
Speaker 2: Week one is always shoppy for teams as they try

1539
01:10:01,600 --> 01:10:04,880
Speaker 2: to build chemistry amongst the team. And the best part

1540
01:10:05,040 --> 01:10:08,160
Speaker 2: yet is that teams who aren't good don't know they're

1541
01:10:08,160 --> 01:10:11,200
Speaker 2: not good yet, so they don't play like it. Vegas

1542
01:10:11,240 --> 01:10:14,080
Speaker 2: had the Patriots at nine and a half. So even

1543
01:10:14,160 --> 01:10:16,679
Speaker 2: if we don't get the upset, I think we surely

1544
01:10:16,720 --> 01:10:17,799
Speaker 2: could cover that spread.

1545
01:10:19,120 --> 01:10:21,280
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, it's hard to say, because once the

1546
01:10:21,280 --> 01:10:23,880
Speaker 6: season gets rolling, other teams are gonna have injuries. You're

1547
01:10:23,880 --> 01:10:26,559
Speaker 6: gonna have teams that instead of missing Jamar Chase, they're

1548
01:10:26,600 --> 01:10:29,800
Speaker 6: missing their quarterback. And you know, but I don't know,

1549
01:10:29,880 --> 01:10:33,200
Speaker 6: I used to subscribe more to this theory of Week

1550
01:10:33,240 --> 01:10:35,559
Speaker 6: one being kind of a crapshoot and not really that

1551
01:10:35,680 --> 01:10:37,560
Speaker 6: indicative of what you're ultimately going to be in a

1552
01:10:37,600 --> 01:10:39,000
Speaker 6: lot of it, Like was that two thousand and six

1553
01:10:39,040 --> 01:10:40,599
Speaker 6: game you mentioned, I think I don't think we might

1554
01:10:40,600 --> 01:10:42,320
Speaker 6: have been off the air the opener where it's like,

1555
01:10:42,320 --> 01:10:44,760
Speaker 6: you know, crappy Buffalo team. You know, even Week one

1556
01:10:44,840 --> 01:10:46,759
Speaker 6: in two thousand and nine kind of a crappy Buffalo

1557
01:10:46,760 --> 01:10:48,960
Speaker 6: team and it's tight right down to the wire.

1558
01:10:49,040 --> 01:10:51,360
Speaker 4: But I don't know. I just the more and more

1559
01:10:51,400 --> 01:10:52,719
Speaker 4: I watch all.

1560
01:10:52,560 --> 01:10:56,160
Speaker 6: The games, it feels like it's all the roots are

1561
01:10:56,200 --> 01:10:58,200
Speaker 6: all kind of there, I think with these games, and

1562
01:10:58,240 --> 01:10:59,960
Speaker 6: they might be a little bit more sloppy, but general

1563
01:11:00,200 --> 01:11:02,320
Speaker 6: I haven't really felt that being the case.

1564
01:11:02,439 --> 01:11:05,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, And I just like we were talking Mike before

1565
01:11:05,360 --> 01:11:08,960
Speaker 5: you came down. It just I think people get so

1566
01:11:09,200 --> 01:11:11,360
Speaker 5: wrapped up in some of the numbers, you know, like, well,

1567
01:11:11,400 --> 01:11:15,439
Speaker 5: the Bengals are one and three under Burrow and openers, Okay,

1568
01:11:15,680 --> 01:11:18,400
Speaker 5: but what does that have to do with this year?

1569
01:11:18,720 --> 01:11:22,880
Speaker 5: The Patriots haven't covered an opener since, Like, Brady, what

1570
01:11:22,920 --> 01:11:24,280
Speaker 5: does that have to do with this year? I might

1571
01:11:24,320 --> 01:11:27,000
Speaker 5: be since since twenty I think they covered in the

1572
01:11:27,040 --> 01:11:28,400
Speaker 5: cam Newteelers, Newton.

1573
01:11:28,760 --> 01:11:31,120
Speaker 4: I hope they covered against the Steelers. They pound them.

1574
01:11:31,160 --> 01:11:32,479
Speaker 5: And when did they play the Steelers?

1575
01:11:32,600 --> 01:11:34,160
Speaker 4: The Steelers the opener in nineteen.

1576
01:11:35,040 --> 01:11:39,759
Speaker 5: No, I'm talking about since twenty now twenty Yeah with Newton,

1577
01:11:39,800 --> 01:11:41,840
Speaker 5: but they they haven't covered the last couple.

1578
01:11:42,080 --> 01:11:43,680
Speaker 4: Yeah they got this is this is by the.

1579
01:11:43,680 --> 01:11:45,720
Speaker 5: Way, this is dangerous. This is when and I love

1580
01:11:45,760 --> 01:11:48,360
Speaker 5: them and I mean it. I'm taking Joe Murray's word

1581
01:11:48,400 --> 01:11:50,840
Speaker 5: for it. Joe Murray at night on the Sports Hub.

1582
01:11:51,320 --> 01:11:54,080
Speaker 5: You know, one of my favorite guys. But sometimes it's

1583
01:11:54,080 --> 01:11:56,759
Speaker 5: a little loose with his numbers and figures, so maybe

1584
01:11:56,760 --> 01:11:59,599
Speaker 5: that's not right. But like my point being like this

1585
01:11:59,680 --> 01:12:03,040
Speaker 5: isn't new year. It's all different personnel for the Patriots,

1586
01:12:03,080 --> 01:12:06,880
Speaker 5: an entire new coaching staff almost, Like what does that

1587
01:12:06,920 --> 01:12:08,479
Speaker 5: have to do with last year that they didn't cover

1588
01:12:08,520 --> 01:12:13,040
Speaker 5: against Philadelphia? Like there was nothing really to carry over,

1589
01:12:13,200 --> 01:12:15,320
Speaker 5: Like the Patriots could easily cover Sunday. I could see

1590
01:12:15,360 --> 01:12:17,800
Speaker 5: them easily getting blown out too, Like who knows.

1591
01:12:17,840 --> 01:12:20,280
Speaker 6: I just hope they're not like sloppy and just don't

1592
01:12:20,280 --> 01:12:22,519
Speaker 6: even give themselves a chance with stupid stuff like the

1593
01:12:22,520 --> 01:12:24,760
Speaker 6: penalties and the turnovers, and you know, if you just

1594
01:12:24,760 --> 01:12:27,040
Speaker 6: play a clean game and you maybe get a sense

1595
01:12:27,080 --> 01:12:28,400
Speaker 6: of where this team is at.

1596
01:12:28,439 --> 01:12:31,040
Speaker 5: But how would you feel if they played a clean game.

1597
01:12:31,120 --> 01:12:34,600
Speaker 5: Let's say they have two or three penalties, no turnovers

1598
01:12:35,600 --> 01:12:37,679
Speaker 5: and they lose by seventeen points.

1599
01:12:38,400 --> 01:12:40,280
Speaker 4: Not great, Bob, Not great, me too.

1600
01:12:40,360 --> 01:12:42,840
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, like I almost if they're gonna lose, you

1601
01:12:42,880 --> 01:12:46,559
Speaker 5: want an excuse? Yeah, like last year, last year, that

1602
01:12:46,600 --> 01:12:51,000
Speaker 5: Philadelphia game. Yeah, you know, they had like three turnovers.

1603
01:12:51,200 --> 01:12:55,240
Speaker 5: You know there was I think was it two? I

1604
01:12:55,360 --> 01:12:57,200
Speaker 5: know there was one pick six at least I thought

1605
01:12:57,280 --> 01:12:59,280
Speaker 5: was there a fumble that no, maybe set up a

1606
01:12:59,320 --> 01:13:01,640
Speaker 5: short field. So at least you said, well, jeez, if

1607
01:13:01,680 --> 01:13:03,400
Speaker 5: we just didn't shoot ourselves in the foot, we might

1608
01:13:03,400 --> 01:13:04,479
Speaker 5: have been able to win this game.

1609
01:13:04,720 --> 01:13:05,880
Speaker 2: And Booty gets his foot in.

1610
01:13:06,560 --> 01:13:10,920
Speaker 5: You know, I would rather if you're going to lose,

1611
01:13:10,920 --> 01:13:15,160
Speaker 5: I'd rather have that cost ourselves the game as opposed

1612
01:13:15,160 --> 01:13:15,280
Speaker 5: to it.

1613
01:13:15,360 --> 01:13:16,400
Speaker 4: We just went out there, we.

1614
01:13:16,360 --> 01:13:17,960
Speaker 5: Played as well as we can and the other team

1615
01:13:18,000 --> 01:13:19,040
Speaker 5: was three touchdowns better.

1616
01:13:19,120 --> 01:13:21,679
Speaker 4: That would be without Jamar Chase, that would be depressing.

1617
01:13:22,439 --> 01:13:24,840
Speaker 2: Barton Poland writes in I have the Bengals as my

1618
01:13:24,880 --> 01:13:28,599
Speaker 2: Super Bowl pick so I don't have big expectation for Sunday. However,

1619
01:13:28,640 --> 01:13:31,040
Speaker 2: it's probably the best time to face them when it

1620
01:13:31,040 --> 01:13:33,880
Speaker 2: comes to May. I just hope maybe becomes the starter

1621
01:13:34,000 --> 01:13:36,640
Speaker 2: before the London game. That's all I asked for, as

1622
01:13:36,680 --> 01:13:39,519
Speaker 2: it will be my first NFL game and that all

1623
01:13:39,520 --> 01:13:42,479
Speaker 2: attend live. Also a question is I would give you a.

1624
01:13:42,880 --> 01:13:45,599
Speaker 5: Pretty good odds on that before the London game?

1625
01:13:46,000 --> 01:13:49,559
Speaker 2: Okay in England. Also a question, is there a full

1626
01:13:49,960 --> 01:13:53,320
Speaker 2: and official list of all of Paul's shows. I'm pretty

1627
01:13:53,320 --> 01:13:55,840
Speaker 2: sure that I'm aware of most of them, but it

1628
01:13:55,840 --> 01:13:58,880
Speaker 2: would be great if you could clarify which shows exactly

1629
01:13:58,960 --> 01:14:03,360
Speaker 2: are considered Paul shows, especially for people outside the area.

1630
01:14:03,680 --> 01:14:04,120
Speaker 2: You know.

1631
01:14:05,680 --> 01:14:08,200
Speaker 5: They'll be on one of my shows momentarily.

1632
01:14:07,720 --> 01:14:09,320
Speaker 2: Paul shows or any show that will give them a

1633
01:14:09,320 --> 01:14:11,720
Speaker 2: paychecky right, No, but.

1634
01:14:11,720 --> 01:14:14,800
Speaker 5: You assign a lot of shows to me that I

1635
01:14:14,840 --> 01:14:16,639
Speaker 5: have nothing to do with, Like on the other channel.

1636
01:14:16,720 --> 01:14:20,920
Speaker 2: That's not true. The more morning shows, both afternoon shows

1637
01:14:21,800 --> 01:14:22,240
Speaker 2: and but.

1638
01:14:22,920 --> 01:14:25,080
Speaker 5: NBC Sports get paid by any of those.

1639
01:14:25,720 --> 01:14:27,840
Speaker 2: You've been on both all those shows.

1640
01:14:27,880 --> 01:14:31,759
Speaker 5: I've not been on ee I since nine really, yeah,

1641
01:14:32,240 --> 01:14:32,760
Speaker 5: that's when I.

1642
01:14:32,680 --> 01:14:34,840
Speaker 2: Started cutting them. Are they boycotting you?

1643
01:14:34,880 --> 01:14:35,880
Speaker 5: No, I'm on the other chair.

1644
01:14:35,960 --> 01:14:38,720
Speaker 2: I know, but you don't have any exclusivity thing.

1645
01:14:39,960 --> 01:14:41,400
Speaker 5: I don't bite the hand that feeds you have a

1646
01:14:41,439 --> 01:14:43,760
Speaker 5: loyalty thing. They pay me.

1647
01:14:44,200 --> 01:14:46,840
Speaker 2: Well if Andy Hart says, we'd like you to appear in.

1648
01:14:46,800 --> 01:14:52,120
Speaker 5: A different, different argument, Now I'm open for business. It's

1649
01:14:52,160 --> 01:14:54,240
Speaker 5: going to cost you. You know what. Yesterday's price is

1650
01:14:54,240 --> 01:14:54,920
Speaker 5: not today's.

1651
01:14:55,600 --> 01:14:56,080
Speaker 2: I like it.

1652
01:14:56,160 --> 01:14:56,519
Speaker 4: I like it.

1653
01:14:56,680 --> 01:15:00,080
Speaker 5: It's going to a little more. Matt tell them, I

1654
01:15:00,120 --> 01:15:04,080
Speaker 5: tell them, I you negotiate. Yeah, Matt knows. Matt understands

1655
01:15:05,479 --> 01:15:11,080
Speaker 5: it's looking for his button. No, but seriously like ruining

1656
01:15:11,120 --> 01:15:13,559
Speaker 5: the joke, looking for the button. I would I would say,

1657
01:15:13,720 --> 01:15:14,719
Speaker 5: felgrim az.

1658
01:15:15,000 --> 01:15:17,719
Speaker 4: Yea, my blossoms out of there.

1659
01:15:17,880 --> 01:15:18,560
Speaker 2: Yeah you know that.

1660
01:15:18,600 --> 01:15:20,280
Speaker 4: What's that show with Treny that one too that.

1661
01:15:20,360 --> 01:15:21,479
Speaker 5: I haven't done that really?

1662
01:15:22,120 --> 01:15:22,920
Speaker 4: Yeah at all?

1663
01:15:23,240 --> 01:15:25,959
Speaker 5: Late night though, Yeah, they always asked me to do late.

1664
01:15:25,880 --> 01:15:28,200
Speaker 6: I always see, like I know, I just see people

1665
01:15:28,200 --> 01:15:29,760
Speaker 6: like getting ready to go on and it's like ten

1666
01:15:29,760 --> 01:15:30,400
Speaker 6: o'clock at night.

1667
01:15:30,439 --> 01:15:32,120
Speaker 4: I'm like, no way tired.

1668
01:15:33,680 --> 01:15:34,719
Speaker 2: They were all your shows?

1669
01:15:36,400 --> 01:15:37,040
Speaker 5: Is that my show?

1670
01:15:37,120 --> 01:15:39,720
Speaker 2: That's one of your shows? All these talk shows are

1671
01:15:39,760 --> 01:15:40,280
Speaker 2: your shows.

1672
01:15:40,320 --> 01:15:42,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, the I ones are not my shows.

1673
01:15:42,439 --> 01:15:45,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, I wouldn't give you the Morning show. Yeah, I

1674
01:15:45,240 --> 01:15:46,200
Speaker 4: don't think that's the show.

1675
01:15:46,360 --> 01:15:47,080
Speaker 2: That's not your show.

1676
01:15:47,160 --> 01:15:50,559
Speaker 5: The Morning on THEI it's not my show, and really

1677
01:15:50,640 --> 01:15:52,240
Speaker 5: the Morning on the Hubs not my show either.

1678
01:15:52,800 --> 01:15:55,080
Speaker 4: It's Sad talked to her yesterday.

1679
01:15:55,080 --> 01:15:57,759
Speaker 5: I have filled in a little bit. I heard the segment.

1680
01:15:57,960 --> 01:15:58,679
Speaker 4: How did it go over?

1681
01:15:59,000 --> 01:16:02,560
Speaker 5: They got them all, but they all seemed to legitimately

1682
01:16:02,600 --> 01:16:08,240
Speaker 5: be guessing. So Hardy came up with a game Fred

1683
01:16:08,360 --> 01:16:11,240
Speaker 5: on one of my shows on the Sports Hub, and

1684
01:16:11,479 --> 01:16:14,680
Speaker 5: he called Mike to solicit some some advice. So it

1685
01:16:14,760 --> 01:16:19,280
Speaker 5: was the game was Patriot or Patriot? So was the

1686
01:16:19,360 --> 01:16:21,080
Speaker 5: guy the name that he's going to say, is that

1687
01:16:21,240 --> 01:16:24,320
Speaker 5: actually a member of the New England Patriots or was

1688
01:16:24,360 --> 01:16:27,840
Speaker 5: he one of the Patriot quotes? A member of the

1689
01:16:28,080 --> 01:16:33,400
Speaker 5: January sixth Insurrection? And he came up with names that

1690
01:16:33,439 --> 01:16:37,000
Speaker 5: were like eerily similar. It was like Mitchell Wilcox or

1691
01:16:37,040 --> 01:16:40,479
Speaker 5: Mitchell something else. And there was a three named guy

1692
01:16:40,600 --> 01:16:43,360
Speaker 5: like Joe Giles Harris or someone else that was But

1693
01:16:43,400 --> 01:16:46,080
Speaker 5: they got all of them right. Wallack and Fred got

1694
01:16:46,160 --> 01:16:46,559
Speaker 5: them all right.

1695
01:16:46,560 --> 01:16:47,840
Speaker 6: I thought we might get him with some of the

1696
01:16:47,880 --> 01:16:51,080
Speaker 6: new guys on you know, the New Practice Squad guys,

1697
01:16:51,680 --> 01:16:53,040
Speaker 6: but it's tough.

1698
01:16:53,160 --> 01:16:55,519
Speaker 5: Well, and then you know, Hardy was saying, like, you know,

1699
01:16:56,280 --> 01:16:58,679
Speaker 5: will Cox is from Florida and the other guys from

1700
01:16:58,680 --> 01:17:00,960
Speaker 5: Florida too, and they were like, cool, that's tough thing.

1701
01:17:00,960 --> 01:17:03,599
Speaker 5: It's normally from Like one of the insurrectionists was from

1702
01:17:03,600 --> 01:17:05,280
Speaker 5: West Virginia and they meet it like, I'm going with

1703
01:17:05,280 --> 01:17:07,560
Speaker 5: the West Virginia guy.

1704
01:17:08,280 --> 01:17:09,600
Speaker 2: Oh here here, here it is.

1705
01:17:09,600 --> 01:17:11,960
Speaker 6: If you want some of the names, Mitchell Wilcox or

1706
01:17:12,040 --> 01:17:15,479
Speaker 6: Mitchell Todd Garner. That wasn't the one that Joe Giles

1707
01:17:15,520 --> 01:17:17,280
Speaker 6: Harris or Joe Randall Biggs.

1708
01:17:17,479 --> 01:17:18,639
Speaker 5: Yeah, that one they did.

1709
01:17:18,960 --> 01:17:23,840
Speaker 6: Zachary Thomas or Zachary Rell real real, Eric Johnson or

1710
01:17:23,920 --> 01:17:24,760
Speaker 6: Eric Barbaro.

1711
01:17:24,880 --> 01:17:29,320
Speaker 5: Yeah they did those. Yeah, good stuff, good stuff.

1712
01:17:29,760 --> 01:17:33,360
Speaker 2: Robin san Diego via Connecticut went to training camp this

1713
01:17:33,600 --> 01:17:35,600
Speaker 2: year and had a very good time. Thought it was

1714
01:17:35,680 --> 01:17:38,800
Speaker 2: very fan Training camp is a great time for He

1715
01:17:38,880 --> 01:17:41,280
Speaker 2: also says there's been a lot of talk about quarterback

1716
01:17:41,360 --> 01:17:45,280
Speaker 2: and when May should start. What happens if Brissette plays

1717
01:17:45,360 --> 01:17:49,639
Speaker 2: just fine, not poor, but not great, We lose games close,

1718
01:17:49,960 --> 01:17:52,960
Speaker 2: but he's doing well enough, will there be any locker

1719
01:17:53,040 --> 01:17:56,639
Speaker 2: room disturbance or issues from veterans? If May is put

1720
01:17:56,680 --> 01:17:59,920
Speaker 2: in under those circumstances, I asked, because most of these

1721
01:18:00,080 --> 01:18:03,080
Speaker 2: conversations are framed in the offense being stuck in the

1722
01:18:03,160 --> 01:18:05,040
Speaker 2: mud and Brissett playing poorly.

1723
01:18:06,160 --> 01:18:07,519
Speaker 6: I mean it kind of feels to me a little

1724
01:18:07,520 --> 01:18:10,200
Speaker 6: bit like Bledsoe and Brady, where Bledsoe is a good quarterback.

1725
01:18:10,600 --> 01:18:12,960
Speaker 6: But I feel like the team maybe was won over

1726
01:18:13,040 --> 01:18:15,120
Speaker 6: by Brady and they could see that that's how they

1727
01:18:15,120 --> 01:18:17,800
Speaker 6: want to play and that the ceiling would be higher

1728
01:18:17,880 --> 01:18:20,200
Speaker 6: under Brady. But I mean, I think it's winning if

1729
01:18:20,280 --> 01:18:21,800
Speaker 6: Jacoby's winning games though, but.

1730
01:18:21,800 --> 01:18:23,360
Speaker 5: He said no, he said they're.

1731
01:18:23,160 --> 01:18:25,160
Speaker 4: Losing well, then don't know.

1732
01:18:25,280 --> 01:18:28,479
Speaker 5: He said he's playing well, but they're they're losing close games.

1733
01:18:28,520 --> 01:18:31,160
Speaker 5: I don't think that anybody will have any problem with

1734
01:18:31,320 --> 01:18:33,880
Speaker 5: changing to Drake May at any point this season. I

1735
01:18:33,960 --> 01:18:36,000
Speaker 5: really don't. I think that those guys are smart enough

1736
01:18:36,000 --> 01:18:42,080
Speaker 5: to understand unless that one caveat of Brissette's lighting it

1737
01:18:42,160 --> 01:18:44,599
Speaker 5: up and they're really playing well, like they're six and two,

1738
01:18:44,800 --> 01:18:47,000
Speaker 5: and then I think you got some veterans that are like,

1739
01:18:47,320 --> 01:18:49,120
Speaker 5: wait a minute, what do we do why they're playing well?

1740
01:18:49,120 --> 01:18:50,400
Speaker 5: We got a chance we want to win.

1741
01:18:50,720 --> 01:18:51,080
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1742
01:18:51,160 --> 01:18:54,719
Speaker 5: Otherwise, let's say his scenario. You know, Brissett's playing well,

1743
01:18:55,160 --> 01:18:57,320
Speaker 5: but you know they are three and five. No one's

1744
01:18:57,360 --> 01:18:58,320
Speaker 5: going to argue.

1745
01:18:58,040 --> 01:19:01,960
Speaker 6: That, especially to you, because the element that you believe

1746
01:19:01,960 --> 01:19:04,040
Speaker 6: that Drake make an offer that we've seen is just

1747
01:19:04,120 --> 01:19:06,799
Speaker 6: a new explosive element where if you're not winning games,

1748
01:19:06,880 --> 01:19:08,920
Speaker 6: then you know, even if he's playing well, he's not

1749
01:19:08,960 --> 01:19:10,760
Speaker 6: going to be playing so well that he's you know,

1750
01:19:10,840 --> 01:19:13,400
Speaker 6: hitting Taekwon Thorn on a sixty year bomb or you know,

1751
01:19:13,439 --> 01:19:14,200
Speaker 6: doing the things.

1752
01:19:14,040 --> 01:19:15,800
Speaker 4: That Drake May is able to do. So I think

1753
01:19:15,840 --> 01:19:17,920
Speaker 4: that would buffer the decision a little bit, you know.

1754
01:19:18,120 --> 01:19:20,679
Speaker 2: I mean we've talked about it before the comp There

1755
01:19:20,800 --> 01:19:24,000
Speaker 2: is down in Miami when Tua was a rookie and

1756
01:19:24,240 --> 01:19:28,120
Speaker 2: Ryan Fitzpatrick was doing okay. Yeah, and he's a good

1757
01:19:28,160 --> 01:19:30,120
Speaker 2: locker room guy. You know, he grew the beard so

1758
01:19:30,160 --> 01:19:32,320
Speaker 2: he could be relatable because he's from Harvard.

1759
01:19:32,360 --> 01:19:36,120
Speaker 5: But they weren't winning, so you know, they like three

1760
01:19:36,120 --> 01:19:39,240
Speaker 5: and three or so, like five hundred winning, so there

1761
01:19:39,280 --> 01:19:42,559
Speaker 5: was nothing to be lost by making the change. They

1762
01:19:42,640 --> 01:19:44,840
Speaker 5: actually won more after they made the change, even though

1763
01:19:44,880 --> 01:19:47,599
Speaker 5: Tua wasn't really responsible for them winning.

1764
01:19:49,200 --> 01:19:51,880
Speaker 2: Nate writes in don't know if you guys mentioned this

1765
01:19:52,000 --> 01:19:55,360
Speaker 2: but shout out to the team for paying bar Moore

1766
01:19:55,439 --> 01:19:57,240
Speaker 2: his salary this year. Classy move.

1767
01:19:57,880 --> 01:20:03,280
Speaker 5: Yeah pretty much. Yeah, there is an option, but teams

1768
01:20:03,320 --> 01:20:06,080
Speaker 5: like Cincinnati might take the option. The other thirty one

1769
01:20:06,080 --> 01:20:07,920
Speaker 5: teams would have paid them. And by the way, it

1770
01:20:08,000 --> 01:20:09,599
Speaker 5: was like a million. I think it was one point

1771
01:20:09,600 --> 01:20:12,479
Speaker 5: eight million, So like, we're not really even I know

1772
01:20:12,560 --> 01:20:15,240
Speaker 5: that sounds like a lot to me and you especially me,

1773
01:20:15,360 --> 01:20:18,559
Speaker 5: not as much you Fred, But I don't really see

1774
01:20:19,360 --> 01:20:21,439
Speaker 5: I don't really see an option there, Like you can

1775
01:20:21,479 --> 01:20:24,519
Speaker 5: alienate one of your best young players and not pay

1776
01:20:24,600 --> 01:20:26,599
Speaker 5: them over a one point eight million, or you can

1777
01:20:26,640 --> 01:20:27,799
Speaker 5: do what everybody else does.

1778
01:20:27,720 --> 01:20:31,960
Speaker 2: Right, all right? Evan's here? Evan?

1779
01:20:32,600 --> 01:20:33,760
Speaker 13: Has we turned from?

1780
01:20:34,640 --> 01:20:34,960
Speaker 2: Evan?

1781
01:20:35,560 --> 01:20:36,559
Speaker 5: Has we turned from?

1782
01:20:38,600 --> 01:20:39,720
Speaker 2: Has we turned from?

1783
01:20:41,760 --> 01:20:43,080
Speaker 13: Who was there?

1784
01:20:44,160 --> 01:20:44,559
Speaker 8: All right?

1785
01:20:44,600 --> 01:20:48,120
Speaker 2: Evan? He's the first one of them. A lot of

1786
01:20:48,160 --> 01:20:50,920
Speaker 2: pressure feels a full practice report.

1787
01:20:51,080 --> 01:20:53,840
Speaker 3: That feels like when people sing you happy birthday, you're

1788
01:20:53,880 --> 01:20:55,719
Speaker 3: not really sure what to do. You just kind of sit.

1789
01:20:55,560 --> 01:20:57,920
Speaker 5: Here and they're like, it's kind of like sunshine day

1790
01:20:57,920 --> 01:21:00,160
Speaker 5: in like an hour and a half.

1791
01:21:00,400 --> 01:21:03,160
Speaker 3: Uh No, it feels good to be back. But the

1792
01:21:03,600 --> 01:21:07,599
Speaker 3: big practice report here today Vederian low back at practice

1793
01:21:07,960 --> 01:21:11,559
Speaker 3: the Patriots on Wednesday, still sounds you know. The scuttle

1794
01:21:11,600 --> 01:21:14,679
Speaker 3: button in the locker room was that he's getting better,

1795
01:21:14,760 --> 01:21:18,320
Speaker 3: but maybe not quite there yet for Sunday, so we'll see.

1796
01:21:18,600 --> 01:21:21,800
Speaker 3: Uh still no city, so he was absent, the lone

1797
01:21:21,840 --> 01:21:25,519
Speaker 3: player officially absent from the fifty three man roster. Jonathan

1798
01:21:25,600 --> 01:21:28,040
Speaker 3: Russell not not there from the practice squad, if care,

1799
01:21:28,160 --> 01:21:33,040
Speaker 3: but no city. So Venerian low there present, participating at

1800
01:21:33,040 --> 01:21:38,240
Speaker 3: some capacity. So that's the news, right pads, Uh no,

1801
01:21:38,240 --> 01:21:43,040
Speaker 3: no pad shells A little surprise, yeah, yeah, you know

1802
01:21:43,200 --> 01:21:46,559
Speaker 3: it was uh, I believe they are in pads on Monday.

1803
01:21:47,400 --> 01:21:49,160
Speaker 5: Oh okay, I'm not a surprise by it.

1804
01:21:49,240 --> 01:21:52,000
Speaker 3: And now so you know, today was still you know,

1805
01:21:52,200 --> 01:21:56,200
Speaker 3: shell practice. It's pretty similar, just no no full equipment.

1806
01:21:56,439 --> 01:21:59,400
Speaker 2: So yeah, playing music throughout.

1807
01:22:00,479 --> 01:22:03,840
Speaker 3: There was not music during stretch now really I think

1808
01:22:03,880 --> 01:22:04,280
Speaker 3: about it.

1809
01:22:04,280 --> 01:22:05,080
Speaker 2: It's kind of weird.

1810
01:22:05,360 --> 01:22:08,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, stretched out, Yeah, isn't It wasn't I don't think so.

1811
01:22:09,960 --> 01:22:11,880
Speaker 3: No music, which was a little bit odd.

1812
01:22:11,920 --> 01:22:14,120
Speaker 2: But so to that affect the mood.

1813
01:22:14,760 --> 01:22:16,840
Speaker 3: Maybe a little bit, Fred, you know, the mood I

1814
01:22:17,080 --> 01:22:19,040
Speaker 3: think has been relatively good now.

1815
01:22:19,280 --> 01:22:23,439
Speaker 2: Now both were in the locker room, yeah, Deuce said.

1816
01:22:23,439 --> 01:22:25,559
Speaker 2: The mood in the locker room was business like.

1817
01:22:26,280 --> 01:22:28,280
Speaker 3: That's a fair way of putting it, Okay, Yeah, but

1818
01:22:28,320 --> 01:22:31,759
Speaker 3: I feel like the mood is a little bit looser

1819
01:22:32,160 --> 01:22:35,320
Speaker 3: than Yeah, then maybe you'd normally see it. I think right

1820
01:22:35,360 --> 01:22:38,640
Speaker 3: now there's still hope. Season hasn't started yet, you know,

1821
01:22:39,240 --> 01:22:41,880
Speaker 3: just remembering the last couple of locker rooms last year,

1822
01:22:41,920 --> 01:22:44,599
Speaker 3: it was obviously pretty doom and glub in there after

1823
01:22:44,600 --> 01:22:46,320
Speaker 3: the season that they had. But right now it's a

1824
01:22:46,360 --> 01:22:49,280
Speaker 3: fresh season. It's a new new thing for everybody. So

1825
01:22:49,760 --> 01:22:52,400
Speaker 3: I felt like the locker room on Monday and today

1826
01:22:52,560 --> 01:22:54,760
Speaker 3: was I don't want to call it lively, but it

1827
01:22:54,800 --> 01:22:56,080
Speaker 3: was a little bit loose.

1828
01:22:56,080 --> 01:22:57,920
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, all right.

1829
01:22:58,080 --> 01:22:59,960
Speaker 4: I did talk to them, I mean we were you want.

1830
01:23:00,040 --> 01:23:02,800
Speaker 6: Bentley is always usually pretty business like anyway, so yeah,

1831
01:23:02,800 --> 01:23:04,400
Speaker 6: but he seemed especially just like.

1832
01:23:06,120 --> 01:23:08,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, he's he's always a little bit like that.

1833
01:23:09,080 --> 01:23:13,080
Speaker 3: But uh, it was another practice where we had one

1834
01:23:13,160 --> 01:23:16,160
Speaker 3: period of access, then they kick us out, and then

1835
01:23:16,280 --> 01:23:20,120
Speaker 3: we get three more periods after that of individuals and

1836
01:23:20,360 --> 01:23:22,320
Speaker 3: just to watch them like go through.

1837
01:23:22,439 --> 01:23:23,320
Speaker 4: I think there's a kickoff.

1838
01:23:23,320 --> 01:23:25,120
Speaker 6: I mean, are we brewing something on the kickoff or

1839
01:23:25,160 --> 01:23:27,360
Speaker 6: is that I mean that's sorry, dynamic kickoff. Sorry, Paul,

1840
01:23:27,840 --> 01:23:30,679
Speaker 6: it's possibly something on the dynamic kickoff, but that time

1841
01:23:30,760 --> 01:23:33,280
Speaker 6: of practice is still walk through tempo. It's not like

1842
01:23:33,320 --> 01:23:36,800
Speaker 6: that's like a live period, but have been kicked off.

1843
01:23:36,960 --> 01:23:37,960
Speaker 6: But maybe it's just.

1844
01:23:38,000 --> 01:23:41,360
Speaker 3: The who's doing what, you know, in terms of who's

1845
01:23:41,400 --> 01:23:44,120
Speaker 3: lining up where, who's returning kicks, you know, not that

1846
01:23:44,160 --> 01:23:46,559
Speaker 3: I really feel like that has changed much since the

1847
01:23:46,600 --> 01:23:50,360
Speaker 3: preseason or since camp, but that that might be a possibility,

1848
01:23:50,400 --> 01:23:52,639
Speaker 3: you know, Jalen Rakers and technically not on the fifty

1849
01:23:52,640 --> 01:23:55,519
Speaker 3: three man roster, so maybe there's some other guys that

1850
01:23:55,560 --> 01:23:58,280
Speaker 3: are trying to practice that to see if they can

1851
01:23:58,320 --> 01:23:58,599
Speaker 3: do it.

1852
01:23:59,080 --> 01:24:03,360
Speaker 2: So is it on the kickoffs? Is it like a

1853
01:24:03,400 --> 01:24:08,040
Speaker 2: regular play from scrimmage where the defense has a chance

1854
01:24:08,120 --> 01:24:12,560
Speaker 2: to adjust on uh, make the last substitutions.

1855
01:24:13,640 --> 01:24:15,800
Speaker 3: That's a good question. I I don't know the answer

1856
01:24:15,840 --> 01:24:16,080
Speaker 3: to that.

1857
01:24:16,200 --> 01:24:19,479
Speaker 2: And on this so is the kicking team the defense

1858
01:24:19,520 --> 01:24:22,000
Speaker 2: on this play or is it the receiver? So in

1859
01:24:22,000 --> 01:24:25,679
Speaker 2: other words, you get out there and one side seas okay,

1860
01:24:25,720 --> 01:24:30,200
Speaker 2: this is the type of personnel they have. You would

1861
01:24:30,200 --> 01:24:33,479
Speaker 2: you see a team making a wholesale change to adjust

1862
01:24:33,479 --> 01:24:36,800
Speaker 2: to that and like counteract the personnel that they have

1863
01:24:37,080 --> 01:24:41,200
Speaker 2: on the dynamic kickoff and who gets who's the last

1864
01:24:41,200 --> 01:24:43,559
Speaker 2: team to be able to substitute on that play.

1865
01:24:44,240 --> 01:24:45,040
Speaker 3: That's a good question.

1866
01:24:45,439 --> 01:24:46,720
Speaker 4: I mean, I don't know if right out of it

1867
01:24:48,160 --> 01:24:50,040
Speaker 4: we figure this out. It's kind of hard to have

1868
01:24:50,080 --> 01:24:52,080
Speaker 4: a whole second kickoff team that, you know.

1869
01:24:52,400 --> 01:24:55,160
Speaker 5: I like the outside the box thinking. Yeah, I don't

1870
01:24:55,160 --> 01:24:56,759
Speaker 5: think it will happen, but I like the thought.

1871
01:24:56,880 --> 01:24:57,080
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1872
01:24:57,080 --> 01:24:59,559
Speaker 3: I'm kind of like stumped on it because I've sort

1873
01:24:59,600 --> 01:25:01,519
Speaker 3: of would do I guess it just to me, it

1874
01:25:01,520 --> 01:25:04,639
Speaker 3: feels like you have these guys practicing this all week, but.

1875
01:25:05,880 --> 01:25:07,479
Speaker 2: We have our small unit and now we have our

1876
01:25:07,479 --> 01:25:08,040
Speaker 2: big unit.

1877
01:25:08,120 --> 01:25:14,080
Speaker 5: You know, it's possible. Good for you, I think.

1878
01:25:13,960 --> 01:25:14,439
Speaker 2: That was you.

1879
01:25:15,280 --> 01:25:16,000
Speaker 3: That's a good thought.

1880
01:25:16,320 --> 01:25:17,519
Speaker 4: He said it, and then's trying to pin it on

1881
01:25:17,560 --> 01:25:18,599
Speaker 4: me big units.

1882
01:25:18,680 --> 01:25:22,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a good question for Jeremy Springer. Yea, yeah, thanks,

1883
01:25:22,800 --> 01:25:23,160
Speaker 3: time we talk.

1884
01:25:25,800 --> 01:25:31,519
Speaker 2: Evan has an email and this is from Joe. He says,

1885
01:25:31,760 --> 01:25:34,200
Speaker 2: we were talking about the value of wide receivers and

1886
01:25:34,240 --> 01:25:38,120
Speaker 2: how Bill's different. You know, Bill had a certain value

1887
01:25:38,160 --> 01:25:42,240
Speaker 2: for certain types of wide receivers. Uh. Joe says, the

1888
01:25:42,280 --> 01:25:46,240
Speaker 2: Super Bowl doesn't. Super Bowl teams doesn't value wide receivers

1889
01:25:46,240 --> 01:25:50,320
Speaker 2: the way you think they should be either. Historically, teams

1890
01:25:50,320 --> 01:25:53,559
Speaker 2: who value receivers the way you do are very nice

1891
01:25:53,600 --> 01:25:57,839
Speaker 2: little regular season teams. Hill and Cup have won recently,

1892
01:25:58,120 --> 01:26:03,080
Speaker 2: and then the Chiefs went and want to without him.

1893
01:26:03,560 --> 01:26:04,599
Speaker 5: Okay, that's dumb.

1894
01:26:05,120 --> 01:26:09,280
Speaker 3: So the San Francisco with Ayuk and Debo, No.

1895
01:26:09,360 --> 01:26:10,640
Speaker 5: They don't count because they didn't win.

1896
01:26:10,720 --> 01:26:13,160
Speaker 3: Affiliate with aj Brown and DeVante's.

1897
01:26:12,640 --> 01:26:14,680
Speaker 5: They also don't count because they didn't win. According to

1898
01:26:14,720 --> 01:26:17,599
Speaker 5: this email, god like you just you know, the nice

1899
01:26:17,600 --> 01:26:21,120
Speaker 5: little regular season teams like can we just sort of

1900
01:26:21,160 --> 01:26:24,320
Speaker 5: accept the fact that Patrick Mahomes is a little special, right,

1901
01:26:24,360 --> 01:26:26,400
Speaker 5: and he can win it when he's loaded at the

1902
01:26:26,400 --> 01:26:28,320
Speaker 5: skill positions, and he can win it when he has

1903
01:26:28,439 --> 01:26:31,120
Speaker 5: nothing at the skill positions. It's a little bit of

1904
01:26:31,160 --> 01:26:34,599
Speaker 5: an outlier that not all teams can rely on because

1905
01:26:34,640 --> 01:26:37,320
Speaker 5: Evan accurately points out that all of the other teams

1906
01:26:37,360 --> 01:26:40,120
Speaker 5: that played against them in the Super Bowl had exactly

1907
01:26:40,160 --> 01:26:44,639
Speaker 5: what Evan's talking about, like the dynamic lead receiver, yeah

1908
01:26:44,800 --> 01:26:49,639
Speaker 5: or two, Like I just when has it ever been

1909
01:26:49,880 --> 01:26:52,200
Speaker 5: a good idea to not have the best players you

1910
01:26:52,200 --> 01:27:00,519
Speaker 5: can have because somehow no offense. Mike Brady's brilliance cons

1911
01:27:00,560 --> 01:27:03,880
Speaker 5: people into thinking you didn't need great players without realizing

1912
01:27:03,920 --> 01:27:06,240
Speaker 5: that you had the single greatest player who's ever played.

1913
01:27:06,400 --> 01:27:09,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's easy to have a strong middle class and

1914
01:27:09,680 --> 01:27:12,040
Speaker 2: and all that stuff when your best player is the

1915
01:27:12,080 --> 01:27:13,080
Speaker 2: greatest of all time.

1916
01:27:13,600 --> 01:27:15,960
Speaker 5: And that's what Mahomes is doing for the Chiefs right now.

1917
01:27:16,000 --> 01:27:16,439
Speaker 2: That's right.

1918
01:27:16,720 --> 01:27:19,200
Speaker 5: And by the way, I would argue, Travis Kelce is

1919
01:27:19,240 --> 01:27:22,639
Speaker 5: every bit the number one receiver that Aj Brown will

1920
01:27:22,680 --> 01:27:25,479
Speaker 5: ever be. Yeah, you know, maybe he's a little bit

1921
01:27:25,520 --> 01:27:27,519
Speaker 5: past his prime. Now what's he like, thirty four to

1922
01:27:27,560 --> 01:27:30,679
Speaker 5: thirty five? Okay, so maybe he's not quite the same.

1923
01:27:30,920 --> 01:27:33,040
Speaker 5: He was Gronk in terms of being a receiver at

1924
01:27:33,040 --> 01:27:35,040
Speaker 5: the time. He was never Gronk in terms of an

1925
01:27:35,080 --> 01:27:37,600
Speaker 5: overall tight end. But that's your lead receiver.

1926
01:27:37,760 --> 01:27:39,560
Speaker 3: Right, I mean, he definitely flipped the switch in the

1927
01:27:39,560 --> 01:27:42,720
Speaker 3: playoffs last year. He had some huge games for them

1928
01:27:42,760 --> 01:27:45,960
Speaker 3: in the playoffs that I had. Paul said it great, like,

1929
01:27:46,240 --> 01:27:50,240
Speaker 3: Travis Kelsey doesn't count because he plays tight end, Like, yeah,

1930
01:27:50,360 --> 01:27:51,120
Speaker 3: Gronk didn't count.

1931
01:27:51,160 --> 01:27:51,280
Speaker 8: You know.

1932
01:27:51,400 --> 01:27:53,639
Speaker 3: Edelman didn't count because he played in the slot instead

1933
01:27:53,640 --> 01:27:56,640
Speaker 3: of playing on the outside. Million ways to stir the

1934
01:27:56,720 --> 01:27:59,400
Speaker 3: drink as long as it gets stirred, and then the truth.

1935
01:27:59,200 --> 01:28:01,679
Speaker 4: Is is that this game has signaled that they think

1936
01:28:01,720 --> 01:28:02,080
Speaker 4: that way.

1937
01:28:02,160 --> 01:28:06,599
Speaker 5: They want to also never say like, well, you have

1938
01:28:06,680 --> 01:28:09,240
Speaker 5: to have a number one receiver like no, like if

1939
01:28:09,240 --> 01:28:11,120
Speaker 5: you're really good and you just have a bunch of

1940
01:28:11,120 --> 01:28:14,000
Speaker 5: good receivers but you're excellent in other yeah, you can win.

1941
01:28:14,800 --> 01:28:18,000
Speaker 5: But I just think most of these offenses, now, I

1942
01:28:18,040 --> 01:28:21,680
Speaker 5: know that the nice regular season teams that have good offenses,

1943
01:28:21,960 --> 01:28:22,519
Speaker 5: they have that.

1944
01:28:22,840 --> 01:28:26,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's really just Miami to like the Emailer, what

1945
01:28:26,400 --> 01:28:27,960
Speaker 3: are their nice regular season teams?

1946
01:28:28,160 --> 01:28:28,639
Speaker 4: Dallas?

1947
01:28:28,680 --> 01:28:30,800
Speaker 5: I think Dallas is a nice regular season team that

1948
01:28:30,840 --> 01:28:31,880
Speaker 5: has the shiny.

1949
01:28:32,120 --> 01:28:34,240
Speaker 4: CD nice regular season team.

1950
01:28:35,720 --> 01:28:37,840
Speaker 5: I don't see the difference between me. I think that

1951
01:28:37,880 --> 01:28:41,120
Speaker 5: the Emailers was saying as sort of like a like

1952
01:28:41,120 --> 01:28:43,800
Speaker 5: a negative. I don't think there's anything wrong with being

1953
01:28:43,840 --> 01:28:46,599
Speaker 5: Miami in Dallas, like working to try to get over

1954
01:28:46,640 --> 01:28:49,760
Speaker 5: the hump. But talent's not the issue. But they're trying

1955
01:28:49,800 --> 01:28:50,559
Speaker 5: to get over the hump.

1956
01:28:50,920 --> 01:28:55,400
Speaker 2: Didn't the Chiefs win also with the number one receiver?

1957
01:28:55,640 --> 01:28:57,639
Speaker 5: Yeah, well he said that, but then the last two

1958
01:28:57,680 --> 01:29:03,040
Speaker 5: without Hill but completely ignoring right right anyways, But I.

1959
01:29:03,040 --> 01:29:05,639
Speaker 6: Don't know, I just would say, after watching this offense

1960
01:29:05,680 --> 01:29:08,439
Speaker 6: for the last couple of years, it's just throw out one, two, three,

1961
01:29:08,560 --> 01:29:08,880
Speaker 6: X y Z.

1962
01:29:09,080 --> 01:29:11,920
Speaker 4: Like you need explosive players, you need players that can

1963
01:29:11,960 --> 01:29:14,800
Speaker 4: move the needle. And with this differences stuck in the

1964
01:29:15,160 --> 01:29:16,639
Speaker 4: difference offense, you.

1965
01:29:16,600 --> 01:29:18,920
Speaker 2: Do realize if the Patriots had finished the deal in

1966
01:29:18,960 --> 01:29:23,040
Speaker 2: O seven, they wouldn't be arguing this anymore because you'd

1967
01:29:23,040 --> 01:29:25,599
Speaker 2: be the perfect team with the number one wide receiver.

1968
01:29:26,160 --> 01:29:30,640
Speaker 5: If people realized the talent level that the Patriots had,

1969
01:29:31,200 --> 01:29:33,640
Speaker 5: they wouldn't be saying this. It's exactly what evan It

1970
01:29:33,720 --> 01:29:36,599
Speaker 5: Mike said. Like, Gronk doesn't count, right, Gronk might be

1971
01:29:36,960 --> 01:29:39,360
Speaker 5: the greatest tight end in the history of football. Yep,

1972
01:29:39,760 --> 01:29:43,240
Speaker 5: that doesn't count as like the lead dog, the lead

1973
01:29:43,280 --> 01:29:48,240
Speaker 5: receiver star. You know in eighteen Edelman was immense in

1974
01:29:48,280 --> 01:29:51,720
Speaker 5: the playoffs. That doesn't count as a number one receiver. Yeah,

1975
01:29:51,920 --> 01:29:53,040
Speaker 5: well of course it does.

1976
01:29:53,680 --> 01:29:54,120
Speaker 4: I think too.

1977
01:29:54,120 --> 01:29:57,360
Speaker 6: It's what made those Patriots teams so fun because it

1978
01:29:57,600 --> 01:30:00,160
Speaker 6: wasn't like anything you really could put like the easy

1979
01:30:00,479 --> 01:30:02,080
Speaker 6: we got Moss on the outside, we gotta stop. It

1980
01:30:02,120 --> 01:30:06,320
Speaker 6: was this tight end who could block Helodinada and then

1981
01:30:06,400 --> 01:30:08,240
Speaker 6: run down the scene and have a twenty five thirty

1982
01:30:08,280 --> 01:30:10,360
Speaker 6: yard catch. You know it was that was what made

1983
01:30:10,400 --> 01:30:12,400
Speaker 6: it so unique and exciting, like an eleven twelve when

1984
01:30:12,400 --> 01:30:13,439
Speaker 6: that thing really hit the gear.

1985
01:30:13,520 --> 01:30:16,000
Speaker 5: You know, I tell you an unpopular opinion, The old

1986
01:30:16,080 --> 01:30:18,200
Speaker 5: nineteen didn't fail because all you had to do was

1987
01:30:18,720 --> 01:30:21,000
Speaker 5: double team Moss over the top and slammed down on Welker.

1988
01:30:21,000 --> 01:30:23,439
Speaker 5: They couldn't stop anybody. Yeah, that's why they failed.

1989
01:30:24,360 --> 01:30:24,960
Speaker 4: Pass rush.

1990
01:30:25,160 --> 01:30:27,800
Speaker 5: I mean, like that game in New Orleans that elicited that.

1991
01:30:28,000 --> 01:30:30,439
Speaker 5: I just can't get these guys to play how many points?

1992
01:30:30,479 --> 01:30:33,720
Speaker 5: How many points of That's why you didn't go where

1993
01:30:33,720 --> 01:30:34,200
Speaker 5: you wanted to go.

1994
01:30:34,280 --> 01:30:36,080
Speaker 6: There you got rid of, you got rid of Richard Seymour,

1995
01:30:36,120 --> 01:30:37,800
Speaker 6: You put Jarvis Green in there and trying to stop

1996
01:30:37,800 --> 01:30:38,639
Speaker 6: the running Ray Rice.

1997
01:30:38,880 --> 01:30:39,840
Speaker 4: He's still running.

1998
01:30:40,000 --> 01:30:43,479
Speaker 3: My favorite ducism is just naming random like twenty ten

1999
01:30:43,840 --> 01:30:48,400
Speaker 3: pass rushers on the Patriots, Derek Burgess, Andre Carter Kelly.

2000
01:30:49,080 --> 01:30:51,519
Speaker 5: He's uncanny, uncanny, Derek Burgess.

2001
01:30:51,520 --> 01:30:52,000
Speaker 3: I have a thing.

2002
01:30:52,200 --> 01:30:54,040
Speaker 5: I have a thing like I was thinking very mad

2003
01:30:54,040 --> 01:30:57,080
Speaker 5: about it talking about the Safety Yet show and you

2004
01:30:57,120 --> 01:30:59,160
Speaker 5: guys were going back and forth with safeties, and I

2005
01:30:59,160 --> 01:31:03,840
Speaker 5: immediately was thinking, oh yeah, it was like mccordy, Harmon Chung,

2006
01:31:04,200 --> 01:31:05,960
Speaker 5: And then I was thinking, I have no idea if

2007
01:31:06,000 --> 01:31:07,920
Speaker 5: Chung was on that team that we were talking about.

2008
01:31:07,960 --> 01:31:10,920
Speaker 5: So I didn't mention Jung, Yeah because I know du

2009
01:31:11,040 --> 01:31:11,880
Speaker 5: A well he was.

2010
01:31:13,520 --> 01:31:13,840
Speaker 4: Twelve.

2011
01:31:14,880 --> 01:31:16,679
Speaker 3: But don't you remember that Derek Bird this year?

2012
01:31:16,960 --> 01:31:19,200
Speaker 5: I do, Yeah, I do. He was one of the

2013
01:31:19,320 --> 01:31:20,720
Speaker 5: he was one of the gang before that. It was

2014
01:31:20,800 --> 01:31:23,040
Speaker 5: late when the dayly was Thomas. He had to show

2015
01:31:23,080 --> 01:31:25,040
Speaker 5: up like the Jetson's.

2016
01:31:24,800 --> 01:31:25,719
Speaker 2: Jetson and the Dailies.

2017
01:31:25,760 --> 01:31:27,559
Speaker 4: Thomas was on the team. Didn't he get like hurt though?

2018
01:31:27,640 --> 01:31:27,920
Speaker 5: Was he?

2019
01:31:27,920 --> 01:31:29,840
Speaker 4: I don't think he was playing, but he fell out a.

2020
01:31:29,840 --> 01:31:36,000
Speaker 5: Favor at that time. Sure did days Thomas like I

2021
01:31:36,040 --> 01:31:36,479
Speaker 5: hate you.

2022
01:31:38,439 --> 01:31:42,639
Speaker 2: Christen Cofax, California. Not sure if his play style fits,

2023
01:31:42,680 --> 01:31:45,720
Speaker 2: but could we see del Pettis have a decent role

2024
01:31:45,720 --> 01:31:48,360
Speaker 2: on defense due to the lack of a true free safety.

2025
01:31:48,760 --> 01:31:51,440
Speaker 2: It seems like all of our safeties are strong safeties

2026
01:31:51,520 --> 01:31:54,600
Speaker 2: or sub linebacker types. And how much playtime are you

2027
01:31:54,720 --> 01:31:57,839
Speaker 2: expecting from Pok and Bell at the beginning of the season.

2028
01:31:58,400 --> 01:32:00,439
Speaker 6: I don't expect del Pettis I and I think he

2029
01:32:00,640 --> 01:32:03,720
Speaker 6: very well could be a game day inactive. I just

2030
01:32:03,760 --> 01:32:08,360
Speaker 6: I mean Hawkins, they got three of those guys. As

2031
01:32:08,400 --> 01:32:10,120
Speaker 6: for Bell, I don't think Bell's gonna play a lot.

2032
01:32:10,160 --> 01:32:11,800
Speaker 6: I think Poke will play a lot. I think Polk

2033
01:32:12,160 --> 01:32:14,160
Speaker 6: you got top four receivers. I think he'll he'll be

2034
01:32:14,200 --> 01:32:16,160
Speaker 6: in that mix, and you know, they'll rotate him in

2035
01:32:16,200 --> 01:32:18,360
Speaker 6: and out. I'm just curious if they activate Rager though,

2036
01:32:18,400 --> 01:32:20,439
Speaker 6: if that's you know, do they roll with Booty because

2037
01:32:20,960 --> 01:32:22,519
Speaker 6: that riger move was still surprising to me.

2038
01:32:22,560 --> 01:32:24,400
Speaker 4: I always had Rager above Booty.

2039
01:32:25,600 --> 01:32:27,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, and that would tell you a lot. Yeah, if

2040
01:32:27,840 --> 01:32:30,600
Speaker 5: they activate him and deactivate a receiver, that tells you

2041
01:32:30,640 --> 01:32:33,000
Speaker 5: a lot. He tells you that was right, yea Like Bell,

2042
01:32:33,120 --> 01:32:35,400
Speaker 5: I felt like they could cut Rager or not lose him,

2043
01:32:35,439 --> 01:32:37,080
Speaker 5: but they weren't sure about Booty.

2044
01:32:37,240 --> 01:32:39,120
Speaker 3: That's sort of how I felt about it at the time,

2045
01:32:39,320 --> 01:32:41,200
Speaker 3: was that Booty would have to go through waivers. And

2046
01:32:41,720 --> 01:32:44,439
Speaker 3: it's had a couple of good preseasons. Maybe somebody you

2047
01:32:44,479 --> 01:32:45,320
Speaker 3: know is still.

2048
01:32:45,280 --> 01:32:47,439
Speaker 4: Elevate Raager two weeks and then see where we're at.

2049
01:32:47,520 --> 01:32:49,439
Speaker 3: Maybe we just Yeah, but the safety he's looking for

2050
01:32:49,520 --> 01:32:51,720
Speaker 3: is Jalen Hawkins. Like Jalen Hawkins is going to be

2051
01:32:51,840 --> 01:32:55,479
Speaker 3: the darn harmon of this all, you know, if everything

2052
01:32:55,520 --> 01:32:57,840
Speaker 3: works out. Dell Pettis to me is a little bit

2053
01:32:57,880 --> 01:33:01,519
Speaker 3: more slot. I kind of, you know, in the box

2054
01:33:01,560 --> 01:33:01,920
Speaker 3: type of thing.

2055
01:33:02,000 --> 01:33:03,800
Speaker 5: I do kind of agree with his line of thought,

2056
01:33:03,840 --> 01:33:06,280
Speaker 5: not with Dell Pettis. I don't think he's ready for

2057
01:33:06,280 --> 01:33:10,320
Speaker 5: for a role on defense. But I found it interesting

2058
01:33:10,320 --> 01:33:12,160
Speaker 5: because I think the three of us all thought the

2059
01:33:12,200 --> 01:33:14,880
Speaker 5: same with Jalen Hawkins, like, oh maybe this is a guy. Yeah,

2060
01:33:14,920 --> 01:33:16,920
Speaker 5: he doesn't really like playing like that. I don't know you,

2061
01:33:16,960 --> 01:33:19,960
Speaker 5: I know you talked to him for a while. Yeah, Mike,

2062
01:33:20,320 --> 01:33:24,200
Speaker 5: you know during camp he he fancies himself like like

2063
01:33:24,240 --> 01:33:26,799
Speaker 5: another Dugger in Peppers. He wants to lay the lumber

2064
01:33:27,160 --> 01:33:28,800
Speaker 5: and he wants to be in the back. No, he

2065
01:33:28,880 --> 01:33:31,400
Speaker 5: talks about his versatility. That's yeah, all those guys do.

2066
01:33:31,520 --> 01:33:34,880
Speaker 5: But I think he's more comfortable playing like Dugger and

2067
01:33:34,920 --> 01:33:37,040
Speaker 5: Peppers than he would be playing like Devin mccordy.

2068
01:33:37,120 --> 01:33:38,680
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm not sure how they'll use him, but yeah,

2069
01:33:38,720 --> 01:33:40,479
Speaker 6: the day I talked to him too, he like came

2070
01:33:40,520 --> 01:33:42,519
Speaker 6: off the edge and had like a tackle for loss

2071
01:33:42,520 --> 01:33:44,240
Speaker 6: and he was in the backfield a lot.

2072
01:33:44,360 --> 01:33:47,240
Speaker 4: So I don't know. I'm I'm thinking that probably what.

2073
01:33:47,160 --> 01:33:50,440
Speaker 6: They're gonna do is they're gonna use three and it's gonna.

2074
01:33:49,720 --> 01:33:51,280
Speaker 5: And if they're going to all those things. You know,

2075
01:33:51,360 --> 01:33:53,000
Speaker 5: Duly noted, we know what you want to do. This

2076
01:33:53,040 --> 01:33:55,000
Speaker 5: is what you're going to do. Yeah, you know, but

2077
01:33:55,040 --> 01:33:57,320
Speaker 5: it's you know, you could have Dougs and then on

2078
01:33:57,400 --> 01:33:58,479
Speaker 5: Brian Belichick at.

2079
01:33:58,360 --> 01:34:00,559
Speaker 6: The snap they're out. You know, it's I think they'll

2080
01:34:00,560 --> 01:34:02,080
Speaker 6: play with those guys a lot. I'm just I am

2081
01:34:02,080 --> 01:34:05,240
Speaker 6: curious though, how much Hawkins play is on defense. If

2082
01:34:05,280 --> 01:34:08,000
Speaker 6: this is still a pure three safety defense that that's

2083
01:34:08,080 --> 01:34:09,920
Speaker 6: kind of where we want to live, or is it

2084
01:34:10,040 --> 01:34:11,639
Speaker 6: going to be more traditional with the two.

2085
01:34:11,479 --> 01:34:13,760
Speaker 4: Guys and more of slot What do you guys?

2086
01:34:14,080 --> 01:34:16,519
Speaker 3: Guy, I think it's still gonna be three safety heavy

2087
01:34:16,640 --> 01:34:18,640
Speaker 3: because I just think it gives you so much flexibility

2088
01:34:19,280 --> 01:34:22,320
Speaker 3: of where Duggar and Pepper's can be. Like those two

2089
01:34:22,360 --> 01:34:24,280
Speaker 3: guys need to be as close to the ball as possible,

2090
01:34:24,280 --> 01:34:25,559
Speaker 3: because what.

2091
01:34:25,479 --> 01:34:27,720
Speaker 5: Do you do if you're a nickel, Like if let's

2092
01:34:27,760 --> 01:34:28,960
Speaker 5: say there's only five.

2093
01:34:30,280 --> 01:34:32,519
Speaker 6: I mean, I would probably say it depends on the offense.

2094
01:34:32,560 --> 01:34:34,080
Speaker 6: And you know, we are we looking at a small,

2095
01:34:34,160 --> 01:34:36,559
Speaker 6: quick slot receiver? Are we looking at you know, like

2096
01:34:36,640 --> 01:34:39,240
Speaker 6: if you have Yoshivas this week and you know, bigger guy,

2097
01:34:39,439 --> 01:34:41,519
Speaker 6: like I don't know, I would say it's more matchup base,

2098
01:34:41,560 --> 01:34:42,240
Speaker 6: but it gets into that.

2099
01:34:42,240 --> 01:34:45,479
Speaker 5: Guy with Loger. Sorry, yeah, I just don't know how

2100
01:34:45,560 --> 01:34:46,719
Speaker 5: much that made perfectly.

2101
01:34:46,760 --> 01:34:48,799
Speaker 6: I just don't know what they truly feel about Hawkins,

2102
01:34:48,800 --> 01:34:50,840
Speaker 6: if they really believe he's a guy that can play defense,

2103
01:34:50,920 --> 01:34:52,120
Speaker 6: or if they're kind of like he's going to be

2104
01:34:52,160 --> 01:34:53,840
Speaker 6: a special teamer for us and he can fill in,

2105
01:34:53,880 --> 01:34:55,800
Speaker 6: but he's not going to be part of the plan.

2106
01:34:55,840 --> 01:34:57,400
Speaker 5: And that's what I do think you'll say more of

2107
01:34:57,439 --> 01:35:00,719
Speaker 5: Hawkins than Marcus Jones if there's only five, but guys nailed,

2108
01:35:01,160 --> 01:35:03,799
Speaker 5: like if he depends like this week, it's a dependent

2109
01:35:03,880 --> 01:35:06,960
Speaker 5: it's there an eleven personnel team Cincinnati, three wide receivers

2110
01:35:07,080 --> 01:35:09,839
Speaker 5: burrowing the gun like that's how they play offense.

2111
01:35:10,120 --> 01:35:11,760
Speaker 3: So now it's probably gonna be a little bit more

2112
01:35:11,760 --> 01:35:14,960
Speaker 3: traditional three corner nickel. But when you play Miami and

2113
01:35:15,000 --> 01:35:16,760
Speaker 3: they might be a little heavier and try to run

2114
01:35:16,800 --> 01:35:19,040
Speaker 3: the ball like. That's always a tough thing to me

2115
01:35:19,200 --> 01:35:21,880
Speaker 3: with teams like Miami is that they like to put

2116
01:35:21,880 --> 01:35:23,640
Speaker 3: the corners in the fit in the run game. They

2117
01:35:23,720 --> 01:35:26,080
Speaker 3: run outside zone. They try to get outside the tackles

2118
01:35:26,400 --> 01:35:28,559
Speaker 3: and make you fit the ball with the corners.

2119
01:35:29,120 --> 01:35:32,720
Speaker 5: And now about that Moster touchdown run. Yeah, late late

2120
01:35:32,760 --> 01:35:34,000
Speaker 5: in Week two last year.

2121
01:35:34,240 --> 01:35:36,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like maybe that's like a little bit.

2122
01:35:36,560 --> 01:35:37,519
Speaker 5: More nothing for that.

2123
01:35:38,479 --> 01:35:39,599
Speaker 2: I'm just numb to it.

2124
01:35:39,600 --> 01:35:42,280
Speaker 5: It was. It was one of those plays where it's

2125
01:35:42,320 --> 01:35:44,720
Speaker 5: exactly the way I haven't just described. You get cornerbacks

2126
01:35:45,520 --> 01:35:48,040
Speaker 5: in bad situations, and I think that was one of

2127
01:35:48,040 --> 01:35:50,320
Speaker 5: the rare plays that Christian Gonzalez looked like a rookie

2128
01:35:50,360 --> 01:35:52,559
Speaker 5: last year, that long touchdown run by.

2129
01:35:52,720 --> 01:35:55,120
Speaker 2: So we already weighed in our key player on each

2130
01:35:55,120 --> 01:35:57,320
Speaker 2: side of the ball for the Patriots.

2131
01:35:56,680 --> 01:36:01,160
Speaker 3: Like for the entire season, just for this game for

2132
01:36:01,320 --> 01:36:07,000
Speaker 3: both sides. Yeah, of the ball. Offensively, I'll go choo

2133
01:36:07,080 --> 01:36:11,960
Speaker 3: score for. I just think Henderson Trey Hendrickson is one

2134
01:36:11,960 --> 01:36:14,080
Speaker 3: of the best in the league in my opinion, really

2135
01:36:14,160 --> 01:36:16,519
Speaker 3: underrated player. He's seventeen and a half sacks last year.

2136
01:36:16,600 --> 01:36:19,160
Speaker 3: I don't feel like that gets talked about enough. And

2137
01:36:19,600 --> 01:36:22,000
Speaker 3: you usually likes line up over the left tackle, and

2138
01:36:22,680 --> 01:36:24,759
Speaker 3: if you're gonna have any sort of passing game success,

2139
01:36:24,920 --> 01:36:27,000
Speaker 3: that's where it starts. In terms of the blocking. Is

2140
01:36:27,000 --> 01:36:31,400
Speaker 3: is bocking Hendrickson defensively? I think it's gotta be Gonzalez, Like,

2141
01:36:31,560 --> 01:36:34,160
Speaker 3: you know, you gotta have, you gotta be able to

2142
01:36:34,200 --> 01:36:37,680
Speaker 3: take one of the receivers out relatively, Like, we're not

2143
01:36:37,720 --> 01:36:40,280
Speaker 3: gonna shut out Jamar Chase, but you gotta take one

2144
01:36:40,280 --> 01:36:42,639
Speaker 3: of those guys out without having to tilt the coverage

2145
01:36:42,640 --> 01:36:44,240
Speaker 3: in their direction. If you had to tilt the coverage

2146
01:36:44,240 --> 01:36:47,960
Speaker 3: in everybody's direction, now you're in trouble. So he's gonna

2147
01:36:47,960 --> 01:36:51,040
Speaker 3: have to be Stefan Gilmour light Like they're gonna have

2148
01:36:51,040 --> 01:36:53,599
Speaker 3: to be able to say, you have t Higgins this week,

2149
01:36:53,920 --> 01:36:56,479
Speaker 3: and if he goes for a buck twenty, then fine,

2150
01:36:56,520 --> 01:36:58,439
Speaker 3: but like, let's make it for eight catches, right, like,

2151
01:36:58,560 --> 01:37:01,240
Speaker 3: just don't give up three big plays or something like that.

2152
01:37:01,520 --> 01:37:03,599
Speaker 3: But you're going to be on an island against this

2153
01:37:03,640 --> 01:37:05,160
Speaker 3: guy and it's up to you to figure it out.

2154
01:37:05,560 --> 01:37:07,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, So what do you think if Chase doesn't play.

2155
01:37:07,800 --> 01:37:10,000
Speaker 5: I'm just like scrolling through Twitter to see if there's

2156
01:37:10,000 --> 01:37:13,160
Speaker 5: anything out of Cincinnati. I don't really see anything. But

2157
01:37:13,560 --> 01:37:15,799
Speaker 5: if Chase doesn't play, does that afford you the luxury

2158
01:37:15,840 --> 01:37:19,400
Speaker 5: of just sort of ridiculously taking Higgins out of the

2159
01:37:19,439 --> 01:37:22,320
Speaker 5: game with multiple people and then making those other guys

2160
01:37:22,320 --> 01:37:26,040
Speaker 5: beat you. Charlie Trent Irwin.

2161
01:37:27,240 --> 01:37:33,240
Speaker 3: Charlie Jones, Yeah from Purdue, Yeah, ye tight end sample.

2162
01:37:35,600 --> 01:37:37,600
Speaker 3: It's it's a good question. I I feel like they

2163
01:37:37,640 --> 01:37:42,040
Speaker 3: should put Gonzo on T Higgins regardless, and then if

2164
01:37:42,120 --> 01:37:45,320
Speaker 3: Chase does play, then you bracket him, tilt the coverage.

2165
01:37:45,640 --> 01:37:47,679
Speaker 2: That's what I think. If you you drafted this guy

2166
01:37:47,680 --> 01:37:50,559
Speaker 2: in the first round, let's not forget Yeah, so he

2167
01:37:50,600 --> 01:37:53,200
Speaker 2: should he should match up on T Higgins. And now,

2168
01:37:53,520 --> 01:37:56,000
Speaker 2: like you said, Evan, it frees up the defense.

2169
01:37:56,120 --> 01:37:58,320
Speaker 5: What if Chase plays, you think he No, even.

2170
01:37:58,160 --> 01:38:00,800
Speaker 2: If Chase doesn't play, put him on T Higgins.

2171
01:38:00,560 --> 01:38:03,160
Speaker 5: If it doesn't play out. Yeah, absolutely, I agree with that. Yeah,

2172
01:38:03,200 --> 01:38:04,880
Speaker 5: Like there's no one else. Why would I waste them

2173
01:38:04,880 --> 01:38:05,640
Speaker 5: on Yeshivas.

2174
01:38:06,080 --> 01:38:09,720
Speaker 3: No, I'm boxing Wanning T Higgins like Gonzo, you have

2175
01:38:09,800 --> 01:38:12,559
Speaker 3: T Higgins. The other ten guys, we're gonna worry about

2176
01:38:12,600 --> 01:38:15,559
Speaker 3: Jamar Chase, Right If Jamar Chase doesn't play, I don't

2177
01:38:15,560 --> 01:38:17,920
Speaker 3: think it changes much. It's just now it's a little

2178
01:38:17,920 --> 01:38:20,400
Speaker 3: bit easier for the other ten guys without Chasing there.

2179
01:38:20,439 --> 01:38:23,720
Speaker 3: But that's the way I hope that they kind of

2180
01:38:23,760 --> 01:38:26,320
Speaker 3: approach the entire season with some of these offenses that

2181
01:38:26,360 --> 01:38:30,240
Speaker 3: have multiple receivers like that. I'm not sure if Gonzo

2182
01:38:30,320 --> 01:38:33,400
Speaker 3: is quite ready to be on an island against Jamar Chase,

2183
01:38:33,560 --> 01:38:35,400
Speaker 3: but he probably is ready to be on an island

2184
01:38:35,400 --> 01:38:35,760
Speaker 3: against T.

2185
01:38:35,920 --> 01:38:36,320
Speaker 2: Higgins.

2186
01:38:36,400 --> 01:38:38,960
Speaker 3: So you know, if you have like the Eagles, you

2187
01:38:39,000 --> 01:38:41,519
Speaker 3: know DeVante Smith a J. Brown, like maybe you know

2188
01:38:41,560 --> 01:38:44,040
Speaker 3: he covers Davante Smith and then the attention goes to

2189
01:38:44,080 --> 01:38:46,080
Speaker 3: AJ Brown. Yeah, you know that sort of thing.

2190
01:38:46,560 --> 01:38:49,479
Speaker 2: Yep, And we I said, I think you agreed. I

2191
01:38:49,520 --> 01:38:52,720
Speaker 2: don't know, just Romandre Stevenson on off that.

2192
01:38:52,760 --> 01:38:54,559
Speaker 5: Was mine, you said, Gonzales, and I agree with.

2193
01:38:54,600 --> 01:38:56,360
Speaker 2: You know what we said both sides of the ball.

2194
01:38:56,479 --> 01:39:00,720
Speaker 3: I agree with Yeah, I'm a little worried about that.

2195
01:39:01,560 --> 01:39:02,120
Speaker 5: Like me too.

2196
01:39:02,439 --> 01:39:05,040
Speaker 2: I don't love you don't want to run them?

2197
01:39:05,040 --> 01:39:06,000
Speaker 5: He worried me more today.

2198
01:39:06,320 --> 01:39:07,920
Speaker 3: I don't want to run them. I don't want to

2199
01:39:07,920 --> 01:39:10,719
Speaker 3: be one of these teams. We got to establish the run.

2200
01:39:10,800 --> 01:39:12,559
Speaker 3: We got to come in here today and we got

2201
01:39:12,560 --> 01:39:13,320
Speaker 3: to run it down there.

2202
01:39:13,680 --> 01:39:17,439
Speaker 2: They kind of said, and has been saying throughout camp.

2203
01:39:17,960 --> 01:39:18,600
Speaker 3: That worries me.

2204
01:39:19,000 --> 01:39:21,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, but like if he's true to what

2205
01:39:21,200 --> 01:39:24,040
Speaker 2: he says Lee all the way up to today, ramondre

2206
01:39:24,120 --> 01:39:25,839
Speaker 2: Stein said, better have a good game.

2207
01:39:25,720 --> 01:39:27,880
Speaker 3: But why can't Remandre Stevenson have a good game In

2208
01:39:27,920 --> 01:39:30,040
Speaker 3: the third and fourth quarter, like when you're playing with

2209
01:39:30,040 --> 01:39:30,880
Speaker 3: what you.

2210
01:39:30,840 --> 01:39:31,599
Speaker 2: Have to have a lead.

2211
01:39:31,840 --> 01:39:34,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, but but why But I would say that you're

2212
01:39:34,479 --> 01:39:36,360
Speaker 3: better off having the lead if you throw it early,

2213
01:39:36,600 --> 01:39:39,000
Speaker 3: especially on first down, like if you go first and

2214
01:39:39,080 --> 01:39:41,559
Speaker 3: ten three yard runs, second and seven three yard run.

2215
01:39:41,600 --> 01:39:43,400
Speaker 3: Now we're in third down. Now we got to make

2216
01:39:43,400 --> 01:39:44,160
Speaker 3: a play up.

2217
01:39:44,040 --> 01:39:48,720
Speaker 2: We're so what's what's you know, in all fairness, what's

2218
01:39:48,800 --> 01:39:52,799
Speaker 2: the better strategy for trying to win this game? Throwing

2219
01:39:52,840 --> 01:39:55,479
Speaker 2: the ball and trying to get a lead or sure.

2220
01:39:55,680 --> 01:40:01,160
Speaker 5: I think the first run game the first thing to

2221
01:40:01,200 --> 01:40:01,600
Speaker 5: me and I.

2222
01:40:01,720 --> 01:40:03,479
Speaker 2: But are we equipped to do the first thing?

2223
01:40:03,560 --> 01:40:05,519
Speaker 5: Well, if you're not equipped to you're not equiped to

2224
01:40:05,520 --> 01:40:07,840
Speaker 5: win games. That's the league. Well they're not equipped to

2225
01:40:07,920 --> 01:40:10,360
Speaker 5: run the ball and shorten the game and win that way. Okay,

2226
01:40:10,439 --> 01:40:12,479
Speaker 5: well my teams aren't equipped to do that. I know

2227
01:40:12,520 --> 01:40:16,200
Speaker 5: those are the age old cliches. What's shortened the game,

2228
01:40:16,720 --> 01:40:19,120
Speaker 5: But that's not a way to try to win on

2229
01:40:19,160 --> 01:40:20,120
Speaker 5: a consistent basis.

2230
01:40:20,160 --> 01:40:22,160
Speaker 2: I didn't say that consistent.

2231
01:40:22,000 --> 01:40:24,559
Speaker 5: So I would say you know that in my in

2232
01:40:24,600 --> 01:40:27,040
Speaker 5: my view, it's just my opinion. I think Mike and

2233
01:40:27,080 --> 01:40:29,479
Speaker 5: Evan agree with me. Is throwing the ball on early

2234
01:40:29,520 --> 01:40:31,080
Speaker 5: downs to try to get the lead. I think it's

2235
01:40:31,120 --> 01:40:34,759
Speaker 5: always the goal as buildings to say, well we hunter believe,

2236
01:40:35,160 --> 01:40:37,880
Speaker 5: but always try to get converse. The best way to

2237
01:40:37,880 --> 01:40:40,200
Speaker 5: get a lead is by throwing the ball and scoring.

2238
01:40:39,880 --> 01:40:43,600
Speaker 2: On no doubt. But the downside of doing that is

2239
01:40:43,640 --> 01:40:45,920
Speaker 2: if you're three and out the first three series, now

2240
01:40:45,960 --> 01:40:47,760
Speaker 2: you're down ten nothing before you know it.

2241
01:40:47,720 --> 01:40:50,320
Speaker 5: Right, So why can why are you eliminating three and

2242
01:40:50,360 --> 01:40:52,800
Speaker 5: out the first three series by running the ball?

2243
01:40:52,640 --> 01:40:55,240
Speaker 2: Well, the hope is that you don't go three and out.

2244
01:40:55,320 --> 01:40:57,920
Speaker 5: Just like the hope is that I'm completing the pass first.

2245
01:40:58,000 --> 01:41:01,360
Speaker 2: Knowing this team, what's the better what's the better strategy?

2246
01:41:01,400 --> 01:41:03,880
Speaker 5: Guys did it? We would just kumba yeah for you guys.

2247
01:41:04,080 --> 01:41:06,560
Speaker 2: But knowing now I'm in, knowing what we've got in

2248
01:41:06,640 --> 01:41:09,479
Speaker 2: this team, what's the best strategy.

2249
01:41:09,080 --> 01:41:11,439
Speaker 5: I'm gonna say the same thing. I don't think they

2250
01:41:11,520 --> 01:41:13,920
Speaker 5: ran it from here to there all summer except for

2251
01:41:14,000 --> 01:41:15,880
Speaker 5: against the Washington Commanders.

2252
01:41:15,920 --> 01:41:17,519
Speaker 6: Throw it to the tight ends early. I mean I

2253
01:41:17,760 --> 01:41:21,000
Speaker 6: look at it even from the which was defensive standpoint.

2254
01:41:20,520 --> 01:41:23,120
Speaker 5: Line, it's not that easy. They like, listen, offense is

2255
01:41:23,160 --> 01:41:25,599
Speaker 5: going to be a problem. Yeah, I mean, I don't

2256
01:41:25,640 --> 01:41:26,800
Speaker 5: think we're speaking out of school.

2257
01:41:26,880 --> 01:41:29,120
Speaker 3: I would just like if I was them and Fred

2258
01:41:29,160 --> 01:41:31,280
Speaker 3: you said this a couple of weeks ago. I believe

2259
01:41:31,280 --> 01:41:33,800
Speaker 3: with the sixth offensive lineman, they did that a ton.

2260
01:41:33,920 --> 01:41:36,760
Speaker 3: This the Browns did when Jacob sat started against the

2261
01:41:36,760 --> 01:41:39,479
Speaker 3: Bengals in twenty twenty two. They played six oer linemen

2262
01:41:39,520 --> 01:41:42,360
Speaker 3: twenty two times in that game. On offense, they put

2263
01:41:42,439 --> 01:41:44,840
Speaker 3: six guys on the line of scrimmage. They left the

2264
01:41:44,880 --> 01:41:47,880
Speaker 3: back end to pass protect off play action, and the

2265
01:41:47,920 --> 01:41:50,559
Speaker 3: Bengals answered it all with single high right, they put

2266
01:41:50,560 --> 01:41:53,559
Speaker 3: the single high safety. Nick Chubb's not gonna beat us.

2267
01:41:53,840 --> 01:41:55,800
Speaker 3: You guys can't throw it past us. And what did

2268
01:41:55,880 --> 01:41:58,280
Speaker 3: Jacob Weer said do he tore them up in single

2269
01:41:58,320 --> 01:42:00,800
Speaker 3: coverage down the field off play action. I would much

2270
01:42:00,880 --> 01:42:04,200
Speaker 3: rather them come out aggressively like that. On first down,

2271
01:42:04,680 --> 01:42:07,519
Speaker 3: run put him under center, put him in a run formation,

2272
01:42:08,200 --> 01:42:12,120
Speaker 3: play action, pass hunter, Henry, and let's try to hit

2273
01:42:12,160 --> 01:42:14,240
Speaker 3: some plays down the field and get the offense moving.

2274
01:42:14,240 --> 01:42:17,080
Speaker 3: And then once you do that, now the defense has

2275
01:42:17,120 --> 01:42:18,800
Speaker 3: to counter. And now you can run the ball like

2276
01:42:18,840 --> 01:42:21,000
Speaker 3: if you're trying to run the ball into seven eight

2277
01:42:21,000 --> 01:42:23,200
Speaker 3: man boxes all the time. Because that they know that

2278
01:42:23,200 --> 01:42:25,920
Speaker 3: you're trying to establish the run and be the tougher

2279
01:42:26,080 --> 01:42:28,280
Speaker 3: win the line of scrimmage and all this crap like

2280
01:42:28,400 --> 01:42:33,200
Speaker 3: then we're we're gonna score fourteen points. Like it trives

2281
01:42:33,240 --> 01:42:36,400
Speaker 3: me nuts. It's like, what was that even faking? It's

2282
01:42:36,439 --> 01:42:37,400
Speaker 3: exactly what I would.

2283
01:42:37,200 --> 01:42:42,680
Speaker 6: Tell Cincinnati to do too, to take advantage, you know,

2284
01:42:42,880 --> 01:42:45,760
Speaker 6: take advantage of the heavy New England defensive personnel and

2285
01:42:45,800 --> 01:42:47,439
Speaker 6: throw right at him when they're gonna be you know,

2286
01:42:47,479 --> 01:42:49,559
Speaker 6: probably more likely to be too gapping in those early

2287
01:42:49,640 --> 01:42:51,360
Speaker 6: downs that there's not gonna be penetration.

2288
01:42:51,439 --> 01:42:53,519
Speaker 4: He's gonna have some time. Like I just I think

2289
01:42:53,520 --> 01:42:54,919
Speaker 4: it's a it's a favorable strategy.

2290
01:42:55,040 --> 01:42:58,800
Speaker 3: So Jamar Chase is at practice today in uniform, So

2291
01:43:00,320 --> 01:43:02,559
Speaker 3: oh great, there goes my upsettings for nothing.

2292
01:43:02,760 --> 01:43:05,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, there's still still he's still not going to be

2293
01:43:05,280 --> 01:43:07,600
Speaker 5: ready to play and he's going to pull a hamstring.

2294
01:43:07,720 --> 01:43:08,640
Speaker 4: Has he been conditioning?

2295
01:43:08,720 --> 01:43:10,439
Speaker 5: I don't know, I get it, get I assume he is.

2296
01:43:10,479 --> 01:43:15,080
Speaker 5: But I do think today was the day, Like I

2297
01:43:15,120 --> 01:43:20,000
Speaker 5: was talking to Fred likenesday, Yeah, ga, but Wednesday is

2298
01:43:20,000 --> 01:43:21,720
Speaker 5: a day that you sort of if you haven't done

2299
01:43:21,720 --> 01:43:23,679
Speaker 5: anything all summer, you sort of need to be involved

2300
01:43:23,680 --> 01:43:25,800
Speaker 5: in the game plan that right, And if you're not,

2301
01:43:25,880 --> 01:43:27,639
Speaker 5: I would have said that he wouldn't play, but now

2302
01:43:27,680 --> 01:43:29,479
Speaker 5: I would say he's probably tracking him to play.

2303
01:43:29,520 --> 01:43:30,920
Speaker 6: It's kind of stink if he has a great if

2304
01:43:30,920 --> 01:43:32,559
Speaker 6: he just plays in as a great game and no

2305
01:43:32,640 --> 01:43:33,240
Speaker 6: training camp.

2306
01:43:33,360 --> 01:43:35,680
Speaker 4: Just you know, Waltz is in Wednesday.

2307
01:43:35,280 --> 01:43:37,400
Speaker 5: Before we talking about something that the other thirty one

2308
01:43:37,400 --> 01:43:39,960
Speaker 5: coaches are ready to go, right, you know what I mean,

2309
01:43:40,120 --> 01:43:43,000
Speaker 5: like him having a great season after skipping all of

2310
01:43:43,040 --> 01:43:45,320
Speaker 5: training camp, right right, that's not what the other thirty

2311
01:43:45,320 --> 01:43:46,519
Speaker 5: one coaches want to see.

2312
01:43:47,400 --> 01:43:50,800
Speaker 2: Uh Carter and Santa Clarita, California.

2313
01:43:50,880 --> 01:43:55,360
Speaker 6: Yeah, oh yeah, beautiful ye beautiful Carver not personally I've

2314
01:43:55,400 --> 01:43:55,960
Speaker 6: heard about him.

2315
01:43:56,080 --> 01:43:58,719
Speaker 2: A new listener to the show, but a longtime Patriots

2316
01:43:58,760 --> 01:44:01,920
Speaker 2: fan going back to the Tony years, and now that

2317
01:44:02,000 --> 01:44:05,000
Speaker 2: I've discovered your show, I'll be tuning in regularly. Thank you.

2318
01:44:05,400 --> 01:44:08,719
Speaker 2: My question is about Cole Strange. I know he's starting

2319
01:44:08,760 --> 01:44:12,640
Speaker 2: the year on the pup list, but I've heard disparagingly

2320
01:44:13,120 --> 01:44:16,840
Speaker 2: slash snide comments out of the corner of your mouths

2321
01:44:16,840 --> 01:44:19,800
Speaker 2: in passing a few times his name has been brought

2322
01:44:19,880 --> 01:44:22,120
Speaker 2: up in recent weeks. Can you fill me in on

2323
01:44:22,200 --> 01:44:25,400
Speaker 2: the status of the recovery and what you think his

2324
01:44:25,560 --> 01:44:28,720
Speaker 2: future is in New England. I don't know if we've

2325
01:44:28,760 --> 01:44:34,880
Speaker 2: been we can talk about like I'll admit, but I

2326
01:44:34,920 --> 01:44:36,600
Speaker 2: think we talked about like is there any hope but

2327
01:44:36,680 --> 01:44:38,080
Speaker 2: maybe you could play center.

2328
01:44:38,960 --> 01:44:41,439
Speaker 3: This year when you draft a guy in the first

2329
01:44:41,479 --> 01:44:43,360
Speaker 3: round and you're like, well, maybe he could play a

2330
01:44:43,360 --> 01:44:45,200
Speaker 3: different position, that's usually.

2331
01:44:46,280 --> 01:44:49,719
Speaker 2: As long as he's good at it went from corner

2332
01:44:49,760 --> 01:44:51,120
Speaker 2: to safety, it didn't hurt ye.

2333
01:44:53,360 --> 01:44:54,080
Speaker 4: Back into the mix.

2334
01:44:54,120 --> 01:44:55,519
Speaker 6: I don't know if he's gonna be able to do anything,

2335
01:44:55,520 --> 01:44:57,360
Speaker 6: but when you're looking at a practice squad guy maybe

2336
01:44:57,400 --> 01:45:00,080
Speaker 6: starting at left guard, I'll put Cold Strange in to

2337
01:45:00,120 --> 01:45:02,240
Speaker 6: that mix and see if he can improve things.

2338
01:45:02,240 --> 01:45:03,320
Speaker 4: You know, I don't know, but.

2339
01:45:03,400 --> 01:45:05,599
Speaker 3: It's a little like Taekwon, right, Like your only hope

2340
01:45:05,600 --> 01:45:09,519
Speaker 3: with Cold Strange is that the scheme change actually could,

2341
01:45:09,880 --> 01:45:12,840
Speaker 3: out of anybody, probably benefit him the most. But now

2342
01:45:12,840 --> 01:45:15,000
Speaker 3: they're running a lot of this outside zone stuff that

2343
01:45:15,320 --> 01:45:17,920
Speaker 3: maybe he's just wasn't a fit in what they now.

2344
01:45:17,920 --> 01:45:20,200
Speaker 3: It doesn't help him in past protection being on skates

2345
01:45:20,200 --> 01:45:22,960
Speaker 3: all the time, Like that's got to work on that separately.

2346
01:45:23,040 --> 01:45:26,280
Speaker 3: But maybe the scheme itself, it's just a good.

2347
01:45:26,200 --> 01:45:28,360
Speaker 2: I mean Strange had some good games.

2348
01:45:28,720 --> 01:45:32,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, he wasn't he wasn't always terrible, but he struggled

2349
01:45:32,080 --> 01:45:34,800
Speaker 5: for the most part in his two seasons. Right Yeah, Now,

2350
01:45:35,320 --> 01:45:38,599
Speaker 5: I would say to Carter, you know, I do think

2351
01:45:38,640 --> 01:45:42,000
Speaker 5: he had his knee injuries not running the mill. It

2352
01:45:42,120 --> 01:45:45,720
Speaker 5: was a torn pateller tendon, which is significant. He does

2353
01:45:45,760 --> 01:45:48,080
Speaker 5: not look like he's moving great to me even now.

2354
01:45:48,200 --> 01:45:50,080
Speaker 5: I don't know how you guys have felt watching him

2355
01:45:50,479 --> 01:45:52,800
Speaker 5: walk around the locker room. Some of that might be

2356
01:45:52,880 --> 01:45:57,759
Speaker 5: that just that normal athlete football like sometimes looks injured always.

2357
01:45:58,320 --> 01:46:00,360
Speaker 5: We used to say it about Teddy Bruski always looked

2358
01:46:00,400 --> 01:46:02,720
Speaker 5: like everything hurt all the time when he walked, and

2359
01:46:02,760 --> 01:46:05,920
Speaker 5: he never missed games, almost never missed games. So I

2360
01:46:05,920 --> 01:46:08,360
Speaker 5: don't know if he's how close he is to being healthy.

2361
01:46:08,960 --> 01:46:13,440
Speaker 5: It's at least four games on PUP, so scratch off September,

2362
01:46:14,200 --> 01:46:16,280
Speaker 5: and then how much time would he need to sort

2363
01:46:16,320 --> 01:46:19,240
Speaker 5: of get up to game speed in October if he

2364
01:46:19,320 --> 01:46:22,439
Speaker 5: were to be activated on the practice field before he

2365
01:46:22,479 --> 01:46:24,559
Speaker 5: could be a legitimate option to start.

2366
01:46:25,040 --> 01:46:26,880
Speaker 3: I just wonder when he comes back, and I know

2367
01:46:26,880 --> 01:46:29,360
Speaker 3: we're doing a lot of un cold strained, but if

2368
01:46:29,400 --> 01:46:34,160
Speaker 3: Leyden Robinson is decent for a rookie at least, and

2369
01:46:34,240 --> 01:46:36,560
Speaker 3: you already have City in there, and there's a possibility

2370
01:46:36,560 --> 01:46:38,559
Speaker 3: that on Win, who is also a factor in the

2371
01:46:38,600 --> 01:46:41,920
Speaker 3: interior too, there just might not be a spot for him, like,

2372
01:46:42,000 --> 01:46:44,920
Speaker 3: especially if they're playing decently well, like you only would

2373
01:46:44,960 --> 01:46:47,320
Speaker 3: really go to that. I feel like if it's a mess,

2374
01:46:47,360 --> 01:46:49,720
Speaker 3: which I don't think it might be, but if it's not,

2375
01:46:50,040 --> 01:46:53,400
Speaker 3: then you're not really going to shake up the five

2376
01:46:53,520 --> 01:46:55,519
Speaker 3: guys that are rolling just to get him back in

2377
01:46:55,520 --> 01:46:55,960
Speaker 3: the line.

2378
01:46:55,840 --> 01:46:57,800
Speaker 6: Of I mean, I hope City Sou can get rolling.

2379
01:46:57,840 --> 01:46:59,960
Speaker 6: I mean that's I just I think there's still just

2380
01:47:00,040 --> 01:47:02,479
Speaker 6: this big question marks there as there is everywhere else

2381
01:47:02,479 --> 01:47:05,960
Speaker 6: on the line somewhere. So I say so, But sometimes,

2382
01:47:06,120 --> 01:47:09,639
Speaker 6: Mike Reverse, you think I would get it because I'm

2383
01:47:09,640 --> 01:47:12,000
Speaker 6: a do so, not a dousal, And I doesn't make

2384
01:47:12,040 --> 01:47:12,439
Speaker 6: that note.

2385
01:47:12,520 --> 01:47:18,680
Speaker 5: It's not like sexual assault. No, that's Shandler John units, big,

2386
01:47:18,800 --> 01:47:19,479
Speaker 5: big units.

2387
01:47:19,920 --> 01:47:22,800
Speaker 2: Carter also says the Patriots first round pick in twenty

2388
01:47:22,840 --> 01:47:25,320
Speaker 2: twenty five has to be a tackle. I don't care

2389
01:47:25,320 --> 01:47:28,439
Speaker 2: if the Patriots draft first overall next year. It has

2390
01:47:28,560 --> 01:47:31,280
Speaker 2: to be a tackle. Until the offensive line is fixed,

2391
01:47:31,439 --> 01:47:32,479
Speaker 2: nothing else will work.

2392
01:47:33,120 --> 01:47:35,439
Speaker 4: Okay, it's a chandelier though, right, it's not.

2393
01:47:35,800 --> 01:47:37,559
Speaker 5: It has to be a tackle, I think.

2394
01:47:38,240 --> 01:47:40,599
Speaker 2: I think if they pick a tackle, wherever they pick,

2395
01:47:40,760 --> 01:47:41,920
Speaker 2: he has to be a good player.

2396
01:47:42,160 --> 01:47:46,759
Speaker 5: No, I would probably right now before the season probably

2397
01:47:46,760 --> 01:47:49,320
Speaker 5: agree with that, Like it's probably gonna be Evans guy

2398
01:47:49,360 --> 01:47:51,880
Speaker 5: there Will Campbell. Uh, you know, if they can't, if

2399
01:47:51,880 --> 01:47:55,479
Speaker 5: they can get whatever makes a lot of sense. I

2400
01:47:55,479 --> 01:47:56,639
Speaker 5: don't think you have to take.

2401
01:47:56,520 --> 01:48:00,639
Speaker 4: A tackle may make sense to I think's a lot.

2402
01:48:00,600 --> 01:48:02,960
Speaker 5: Of things that would make sense. This is the you know,

2403
01:48:04,040 --> 01:48:07,240
Speaker 5: the silver lining of not being expected to be a

2404
01:48:07,280 --> 01:48:10,920
Speaker 5: great team is you have a lot of options come

2405
01:48:11,000 --> 01:48:12,879
Speaker 5: draft time, right.

2406
01:48:12,840 --> 01:48:15,800
Speaker 3: Especially if you don't need a quarterback. But I think

2407
01:48:15,800 --> 01:48:17,400
Speaker 3: it has to be a tackle. But that's how I

2408
01:48:17,400 --> 01:48:19,759
Speaker 3: feel today. That's how I feel today. If Caden Wallace

2409
01:48:19,840 --> 01:48:23,040
Speaker 3: ends up being a dude, then maybe changed my mind

2410
01:48:23,080 --> 01:48:26,160
Speaker 3: six months from now. But it just seems to me

2411
01:48:26,360 --> 01:48:30,240
Speaker 3: that protecting Drake May and keeping him up right for

2412
01:48:30,320 --> 01:48:33,160
Speaker 3: the next decade is so much more important than anything

2413
01:48:33,160 --> 01:48:35,760
Speaker 3: else that we could talk about. Ye and I know

2414
01:48:35,800 --> 01:48:38,000
Speaker 3: we're going to talk about some guys on defense in

2415
01:48:38,040 --> 01:48:40,560
Speaker 3: this draft. How we're going to talk about burden and

2416
01:48:40,680 --> 01:48:45,280
Speaker 3: McMillan and the receivers too, but they there's two really

2417
01:48:45,320 --> 01:48:48,760
Speaker 3: really blue chip level tackle prospects in Will Campbell and

2418
01:48:48,800 --> 01:48:52,639
Speaker 3: Calvin Banks from Texas that are the two of the

2419
01:48:52,640 --> 01:48:54,840
Speaker 3: the better guys that I've seen the last couple of years.

2420
01:48:54,840 --> 01:48:57,200
Speaker 3: Like up there with like Alt and those guys, it

2421
01:48:57,320 --> 01:48:59,559
Speaker 3: just seems like such a slam dunk, Like why would you.

2422
01:48:59,520 --> 01:49:00,639
Speaker 4: Get this on the draft?

2423
01:49:00,680 --> 01:49:02,360
Speaker 6: As you said, with you know, strong class with a

2424
01:49:02,400 --> 01:49:04,800
Speaker 6: couple of tackles and as well. Yeah, it's like the

2425
01:49:04,800 --> 01:49:07,559
Speaker 6: perfect case is like you're one or two trade down.

2426
01:49:07,600 --> 01:49:09,639
Speaker 6: You got to first rounds, you know, and you're able

2427
01:49:09,680 --> 01:49:13,519
Speaker 6: to get maybe wide receiver the trade down.

2428
01:49:14,160 --> 01:49:16,120
Speaker 2: I want to live in a football world we don't

2429
01:49:16,120 --> 01:49:18,880
Speaker 2: have to talk about offensive line anymore. Yeah, you know

2430
01:49:18,880 --> 01:49:22,200
Speaker 2: what I mean, Like remember those days, Remember those days.

2431
01:49:22,280 --> 01:49:24,320
Speaker 5: I'm always in that, you know, I'm always in.

2432
01:49:24,920 --> 01:49:27,879
Speaker 2: My second favorite patriot of all time is John Hannah.

2433
01:49:28,640 --> 01:49:30,360
Speaker 4: But did you kiss him?

2434
01:49:30,479 --> 01:49:33,280
Speaker 2: But you didn't have to talk about line, you know,

2435
01:49:33,439 --> 01:49:36,479
Speaker 2: like it was just it was just you could depend

2436
01:49:36,520 --> 01:49:38,479
Speaker 2: on it. It was going to do its job every week,

2437
01:49:38,600 --> 01:49:40,679
Speaker 2: and you can focus on the receivers and the running

2438
01:49:40,680 --> 01:49:41,920
Speaker 2: backs and the quarterbacks and.

2439
01:49:42,520 --> 01:49:46,920
Speaker 3: You know, you can find receivers, and you can find

2440
01:49:47,000 --> 01:49:49,280
Speaker 3: edge guys in free agency a lot of the time,

2441
01:49:49,640 --> 01:49:52,080
Speaker 3: or at least in the trade market with receivers, I

2442
01:49:52,120 --> 01:49:54,000
Speaker 3: mean they get Judon as a free agent. Like those

2443
01:49:54,040 --> 01:49:57,759
Speaker 3: guys come available. Great left tackles do not come available,

2444
01:49:58,080 --> 01:50:00,519
Speaker 3: like you just you don't see them move very often

2445
01:50:00,520 --> 01:50:02,240
Speaker 3: for the team to team. You got to get that

2446
01:50:02,320 --> 01:50:05,000
Speaker 3: in the draft. Like if they get the left tackle

2447
01:50:05,040 --> 01:50:07,000
Speaker 3: in the draft, like they can go and sign to Higgins,

2448
01:50:07,040 --> 01:50:08,760
Speaker 3: like he's probably going to be available and they can

2449
01:50:08,760 --> 01:50:10,680
Speaker 3: give him the most money and get him to come

2450
01:50:10,720 --> 01:50:13,320
Speaker 3: here hopefully, and now that problem is solved too. So

2451
01:50:13,360 --> 01:50:15,840
Speaker 3: I just that's the biggest thing to me is like

2452
01:50:15,960 --> 01:50:18,759
Speaker 3: asset management of like how what's going to be available

2453
01:50:18,760 --> 01:50:21,280
Speaker 3: and what's not. And the tackles don't come available.

2454
01:50:21,360 --> 01:50:23,600
Speaker 6: They just don't such an attitude position to like I

2455
01:50:23,600 --> 01:50:26,040
Speaker 6: think Logan Mankins was kind of an attitude guy. I mean,

2456
01:50:26,040 --> 01:50:28,760
Speaker 6: you gut Trent Williams just his presence, Like it's just

2457
01:50:29,400 --> 01:50:31,320
Speaker 6: they just kind of changed the whole dynamic when you

2458
01:50:31,360 --> 01:50:33,280
Speaker 6: have those kind of you know guys Trump Brown that

2459
01:50:33,280 --> 01:50:36,000
Speaker 6: one good Yearady had here, Like you know, just presence,

2460
01:50:36,080 --> 01:50:37,720
Speaker 6: like if you walk on the field you know, like

2461
01:50:37,920 --> 01:50:39,840
Speaker 6: I just haven't felt that way. Like it just feels

2462
01:50:39,880 --> 01:50:41,880
Speaker 6: like they've been trying to scrape it together anyway they

2463
01:50:41,920 --> 01:50:42,960
Speaker 6: can and put this guy here.

2464
01:50:42,880 --> 01:50:43,960
Speaker 4: And I don't know, we got to put this guy

2465
01:50:44,000 --> 01:50:45,400
Speaker 4: over here, and like so.

2466
01:50:45,640 --> 01:50:47,920
Speaker 2: You know, when I came here, it was Bruce Armstrong.

2467
01:50:48,120 --> 01:50:50,439
Speaker 2: He was the guy. And then they got Matt lighte Ye.

2468
01:50:50,800 --> 01:50:51,000
Speaker 8: You know.

2469
01:50:53,360 --> 01:50:55,120
Speaker 3: They had a great run of tackle for a while.

2470
01:50:55,240 --> 01:50:58,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then they sold her who he was. Okay,

2471
01:50:58,200 --> 01:51:01,040
Speaker 2: he had his issues, but then since then it's been

2472
01:51:01,160 --> 01:51:02,680
Speaker 2: kind of a missmat Win.

2473
01:51:03,000 --> 01:51:05,200
Speaker 5: Isaiah Winn was supposed to he was supposed to be

2474
01:51:05,240 --> 01:51:07,120
Speaker 5: the fort and he didn't do it.

2475
01:51:07,200 --> 01:51:09,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like Nate's Solder now. I would love

2476
01:51:09,760 --> 01:51:11,800
Speaker 3: Nates Holder, Like, can we get an Aids Solder now?

2477
01:51:12,120 --> 01:51:15,400
Speaker 3: Because I understand that on a team of a perfect

2478
01:51:15,439 --> 01:51:18,360
Speaker 3: team like the twenty fourteen and twenty sixteen Patriots, Like

2479
01:51:18,400 --> 01:51:21,320
Speaker 3: maybe he's not the best player on the roster, but

2480
01:51:21,760 --> 01:51:23,720
Speaker 3: they would love to have an Aids Solder if right

2481
01:51:23,760 --> 01:51:24,080
Speaker 3: about it?

2482
01:51:24,600 --> 01:51:28,479
Speaker 2: Yep, let's see Jordan and Hawaii. I've seen other people

2483
01:51:28,560 --> 01:51:32,840
Speaker 2: in Boston media Paul shows say that the Patriots need

2484
01:51:32,920 --> 01:51:36,479
Speaker 2: another veteran quarterback on the roster personally, I don't see

2485
01:51:36,520 --> 01:51:40,479
Speaker 2: any reason for that. What benefit does that give you?

2486
01:51:40,479 --> 01:51:43,200
Speaker 2: You have a starting veteran and when Drake starts he'll

2487
01:51:43,240 --> 01:51:45,760
Speaker 2: be there, He'll still be there. Do you think they

2488
01:51:45,760 --> 01:51:49,680
Speaker 2: should sign another backup quarterback? If so, who, No.

2489
01:51:49,479 --> 01:51:50,720
Speaker 3: I'm good with their quarterbacks.

2490
01:51:50,560 --> 01:51:50,920
Speaker 4: It's good.

2491
01:51:50,960 --> 01:51:54,320
Speaker 5: Yeah. People that want to sign a veteran are people

2492
01:51:54,360 --> 01:51:56,960
Speaker 5: who don't want May to play as a rookie. They

2493
01:51:56,960 --> 01:52:00,479
Speaker 5: wanted him to develop and just sit for THEE and

2494
01:52:00,479 --> 01:52:02,439
Speaker 5: take a red shirt year. I do not I'm not

2495
01:52:02,520 --> 01:52:05,599
Speaker 5: in that category, but if they didn't want him to play,

2496
01:52:05,680 --> 01:52:07,720
Speaker 5: I would agree with that. You want you have to

2497
01:52:07,720 --> 01:52:09,080
Speaker 5: get a veteran who can play.

2498
01:52:09,120 --> 01:52:10,640
Speaker 6: I think the better question is do you think it

2499
01:52:10,680 --> 01:52:15,720
Speaker 6: will be May and Milton next year? They try to

2500
01:52:15,760 --> 01:52:18,960
Speaker 6: bring back somebody like Rosette too, you know, deep bring

2501
01:52:19,080 --> 01:52:19,839
Speaker 6: back an experience.

2502
01:52:19,920 --> 01:52:21,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, it won't be set but I think they'll be

2503
01:52:21,960 --> 01:52:23,639
Speaker 5: in the market for a veteran backup like.

2504
01:52:23,560 --> 01:52:27,559
Speaker 3: A Brian More Brian Hoyer. Yeah, but maybe I wouldn't

2505
01:52:27,560 --> 01:52:31,080
Speaker 3: be surprised if they drafted another quarterback too, Like like a.

2506
01:52:31,040 --> 01:52:33,760
Speaker 5: Good move today, you know, probably not an impact thing,

2507
01:52:33,800 --> 01:52:37,880
Speaker 5: but like Houston resigning or extending Davis Mills. Yeah, you

2508
01:52:37,880 --> 01:52:40,519
Speaker 5: know that to me makes sense. I don't know if

2509
01:52:40,600 --> 01:52:43,360
Speaker 5: Joe Milton will be in a position next year even

2510
01:52:43,840 --> 01:52:46,840
Speaker 5: to be a reliable backup. You know, he's got a

2511
01:52:46,840 --> 01:52:47,400
Speaker 5: long way to go.

2512
01:52:49,000 --> 01:52:53,400
Speaker 2: Let's see Marissa from Hamilton Almerio love the show. Thanks

2513
01:52:53,400 --> 01:52:56,519
Speaker 2: for all the insight and content. As a longtime Pakers fan,

2514
01:52:56,840 --> 01:52:59,400
Speaker 2: I've been doing my best to find moments of excitement

2515
01:52:59,439 --> 01:53:03,200
Speaker 2: and joy these last few years. So it brought a

2516
01:53:03,280 --> 01:53:05,519
Speaker 2: huge smile to my face when I found out this

2517
01:53:05,600 --> 01:53:08,600
Speaker 2: morning that Danny and Mondola is going to be on

2518
01:53:08,680 --> 01:53:11,960
Speaker 2: this season's Dancing with the Stars. Can't wait to see

2519
01:53:12,000 --> 01:53:15,000
Speaker 2: his moves on the dance floor and whichever of his

2520
01:53:15,080 --> 01:53:18,439
Speaker 2: Patriots buddies show up to support him in the audience.

2521
01:53:19,360 --> 01:53:21,680
Speaker 6: I saw him dance a little bit like they had

2522
01:53:21,680 --> 01:53:23,519
Speaker 6: like the premiere show, and I saw the clip, but

2523
01:53:23,600 --> 01:53:26,639
Speaker 6: this is what like his second or third reality show.

2524
01:53:26,680 --> 01:53:28,759
Speaker 6: I saw him on a look it's like a Navy

2525
01:53:28,800 --> 01:53:32,240
Speaker 6: seal training show as well, Danny Ammendola making.

2526
01:53:32,479 --> 01:53:36,080
Speaker 2: It's so funny. These guys just life after football and

2527
01:53:36,080 --> 01:53:37,400
Speaker 2: what they're doing, you.

2528
01:53:37,320 --> 01:53:42,320
Speaker 4: Know aways fashion too. He's got like all these like crazy.

2529
01:53:42,280 --> 01:53:43,679
Speaker 3: Stay in the limelight somehow.

2530
01:53:44,000 --> 01:53:46,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, Travis and West Virginia has a question about one

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2537
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Speaker 4: I got a chuckle.

2538
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Speaker 5: Thought, yeah, Fair Tires writing bridge Stone Tires.

2547
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I would redo that copy if I was Sullivan Tire, Like,

2548
01:54:50,680 --> 01:54:54,280
Speaker 2: is it a message for Sullivan Tire or is it

2549
01:54:54,280 --> 01:54:55,600
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2550
01:54:55,640 --> 01:54:58,280
Speaker 5: I think they're trying to promote the fact that they

2551
01:54:58,320 --> 01:55:00,520
Speaker 5: have I know, Bridgetones.

2552
01:55:00,040 --> 01:55:02,600
Speaker 2: But it says the official. It says Bridgestone, the official

2553
01:55:02,640 --> 01:55:05,840
Speaker 2: tire of the New England Patriots. That's great, it's still

2554
01:55:06,160 --> 01:55:09,080
Speaker 2: entire the official distributor of tires for the Newing Patriots.

2555
01:55:09,120 --> 01:55:12,240
Speaker 3: No, they're probably the officials distributed of tires for Bridgestone.

2556
01:55:13,320 --> 01:55:13,680
Speaker 2: Are they?

2557
01:55:13,800 --> 01:55:16,160
Speaker 4: Because I get on the car guys, so yeah, he

2558
01:55:16,200 --> 01:55:16,520
Speaker 4: would not.

2559
01:55:17,000 --> 01:55:19,440
Speaker 2: Now I have Bridgestone tires. I have the run flat

2560
01:55:19,760 --> 01:55:23,800
Speaker 2: Bridgetone tires, very nice and which helped me out wanting No,

2561
01:55:24,080 --> 01:55:26,240
Speaker 2: what do you mean did the same as any other tire.

2562
01:55:26,960 --> 01:55:30,160
Speaker 4: Either way, you're paying hundred bucks of pop, right, don't

2563
01:55:30,160 --> 01:55:30,720
Speaker 4: talk to Paul.

2564
01:55:30,800 --> 01:55:32,680
Speaker 2: I blew out my tire once and I was able

2565
01:55:32,720 --> 01:55:35,120
Speaker 2: to get home. I was able to get home on

2566
01:55:35,160 --> 01:55:38,120
Speaker 2: the Bridgetone run flat tires. I didn't have to change

2567
01:55:38,120 --> 01:55:41,240
Speaker 2: my tire. That's something else you can go, like up

2568
01:55:41,280 --> 01:55:44,720
Speaker 2: to like fifty one hundred miles on the flat tire.

2569
01:55:44,920 --> 01:55:45,920
Speaker 3: We're just trying to get Paul.

2570
01:55:46,000 --> 01:55:48,680
Speaker 2: So I don't have a spare. I don't have a

2571
01:55:48,720 --> 01:55:49,440
Speaker 2: spare in my car.

2572
01:55:49,840 --> 01:55:50,960
Speaker 4: The dream is still alive.

2573
01:55:51,480 --> 01:55:54,120
Speaker 5: I'm running out of time. Bro. Pretty sure that color

2574
01:55:54,200 --> 01:55:55,800
Speaker 5: is going to change and your kids are going to

2575
01:55:55,840 --> 01:55:56,920
Speaker 5: be like on sign.

2576
01:55:57,520 --> 01:55:59,680
Speaker 6: But you're not supposed to have an R on the

2577
01:55:59,720 --> 01:56:01,480
Speaker 6: car on the inspection sticker.

2578
01:56:02,920 --> 01:56:06,600
Speaker 2: That's bad. I mean you still get the crank windows. Paul,

2579
01:56:06,640 --> 01:56:09,040
Speaker 2: you need to get a new car. You need to

2580
01:56:09,080 --> 01:56:09,680
Speaker 2: get a new car.

2581
01:56:09,680 --> 01:56:11,080
Speaker 5: I think you know why I can't get.

2582
01:56:10,960 --> 01:56:13,640
Speaker 2: The ash tray in the in the you know, the arm.

2583
01:56:13,520 --> 01:56:14,760
Speaker 5: Wrest you got.

2584
01:56:16,880 --> 01:56:19,080
Speaker 3: You got five years, you have a car phone.

2585
01:56:19,120 --> 01:56:22,520
Speaker 2: With all the shows that you done, you get more

2586
01:56:22,720 --> 01:56:25,600
Speaker 2: side hustles and you know, I know, why do you

2587
01:56:25,640 --> 01:56:27,880
Speaker 2: think I do that show?

2588
01:56:28,120 --> 01:56:28,880
Speaker 3: Still automatic?

2589
01:56:29,400 --> 01:56:31,120
Speaker 2: What was the show Boogaloo Knights?

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Speaker 5: I don't have that side.

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Speaker 3: You don't have that kind of side side if you

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Speaker 3: wanted to.

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Speaker 5: Okay, thank you got the equipment speaking of big un.

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Speaker 2: With that, we'll call it a show.

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Speaker 5: You're gonna leave a guy on the wane.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll be back tomorrow. When is Catch twenty two?

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Speaker 2: This week?

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Speaker 3: Tomorrow?

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Speaker 2: After tomorrow, after Patriots Unfiltered? You have to playbook with

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Speaker 2: John Brook coming in next?

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Speaker 8: Uh?

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Speaker 2: John Rook graciously said he'll do it from the comfy seats,

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Speaker 2: though Matt Morale doesn't have to change right Yep. So

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Speaker 2: we got John Rook with the playbook coming up next.

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Speaker 2: We will see you tomorrow.

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