Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio the George
Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty. I'm strong
Speaker 1: and get and he Armstrong and Getty.
Speaker 2: So you don't know what staffer is responsible for this
Speaker 2: right now? Well, look, a staffer wasn't responsible. And look,
Speaker 2: I take full responsibility. I built the I built the
Speaker 2: group to my job is to make sure everything's coordinated.
Speaker 1: But how did that's cute?
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't mean to be pedantic here, but
Speaker 2: how did the number?
Speaker 1: Have you ever had?
Speaker 2: Have you ever had somebody's contact that shows their name
Speaker 2: and then you have an and then you have somebody else? Right,
Speaker 2: you've got somebody else's number on someone else's contact. So
Speaker 2: of course I didn't see this loser in the group.
Speaker 2: It looked like someone else. Now, whether he did it
Speaker 2: deliberately or it happened in some other technical means something
Speaker 2: we're trying.
Speaker 1: To figure out at your National Security Advisor Waltz on
Speaker 1: Laura Ingram last night, taking full responsibility for adding the
Speaker 1: journalist Jeffrey Goldberg into the chat that has been discussed
Speaker 1: so much in the last uh thirty six hours.
Speaker 3: But then suggesting it was an innocent mistake anybody could
Speaker 3: have made, or it was Jeffrey Goldberg's skullduggery that got
Speaker 3: him in that group. I like Mike Waltz a lot.
Speaker 3: I like him policy wise, I like him personally. I
Speaker 3: like the cut of his jib that was weak.
Speaker 1: Well, I don't want to get sidetracked by this, but
Speaker 1: do you think he's wondering how the hell did this happen? Yes?
Speaker 3: Guaranteed, yes, some staffer of his put together the contact
Speaker 3: card for say Marco Rubio or somebody else.
Speaker 1: Rubio's already known what contact he was.
Speaker 3: But you know, okay, here is the Secretary of Energies
Speaker 3: contact information, and somehow it was Jeffrey Goldberg of the Atlantic.
Speaker 1: Why a lot of people say a lot of crap,
Speaker 1: Like I've heard so much. You always know who's on
Speaker 1: a call, or whenever you get on a call, you
Speaker 1: check and see who else is on there? Whoever does that?
Speaker 1: Who know what? Scrolls through and make sure who's JG
Speaker 1: fifty two sixty two? That's me? Okay, who's who does that?
Speaker 1: How many folks were on this string? Do you recall?
Speaker 1: I don't know the total numbers. I keep hearing all
Speaker 1: the big names means I keep hearing all the big
Speaker 1: names SECT, deaf, SEC State, all that CIA director and
Speaker 1: assuming that's it, But there might have been a whole
Speaker 1: bunch of other people on there also. I don't know
Speaker 1: Scarborough this morning on Morning Joe, that show makes me insane,
Speaker 1: but I think I agree with him that the best
Speaker 1: thing they could do on this is just like really
Speaker 1: own it and move on and nobody would remember in
Speaker 1: the week. The denying things that are pretty obviously true
Speaker 1: is what is giving this story more legs. I agree
Speaker 1: with Joe Scarborough. God help me.
Speaker 3: It's so early in the administration and the strike was
Speaker 3: a success, So this is a really stupid the more
Speaker 3: I read, a really stupid breach of security, I mean
Speaker 3: really bad. But it was the dog that didn't bark,
Speaker 3: and so it's the perfect opportunity to come clean, confess errors,
Speaker 3: say we'll do better, and then move on. Don't offer
Speaker 3: any resistance that continues the scandal.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and just the whole this scumbag reporters sort of
Speaker 1: thing you added him in and saying.
Speaker 3: Over and over nothing classified was shared. Well, the Atlantic
Speaker 3: is putting out what was shared, and it was one
Speaker 3: hundred percent classified, highly classificed.
Speaker 1: Well, that leads us to this, So I'm going to
Speaker 1: read the New York Post version just because you know
Speaker 1: they lean trumpy. So you're going to get the most
Speaker 1: favorable view from the New York Post. And it's still damning.
Speaker 1: The Atlantic magazine on Wednesday published even more in quotes
Speaker 1: war plan text, laying out minute by minute operational details
Speaker 1: and exact weapons to be used in the yem and strikes.
Speaker 1: The Trump administration shot down claims that classified details were
Speaker 1: ever shared in the signal chat snaff who. The magazine's
Speaker 1: top editor, Jeffrey Goldberg, published additional snippets of the text
Speaker 1: exchange that he says he says revealed the precise operational details.
Speaker 1: The reason he's doing this is because they came out
Speaker 1: so hard against him yesterday. Say no, we never know
Speaker 1: that nothing was classified, and he's making this up and
Speaker 1: he's a stumbag. Also, So here we go. This is
Speaker 1: Pete Heggseth Team update time now eleven forty four Eastern time.
Speaker 1: Whether it's favorable, just confirmed with Sentcom we are a
Speaker 1: go for mission launch twelve fifteen Eastern time. F eighteen's
Speaker 1: launch first Strike Package thirteen forty five that's the time
Speaker 1: stamp trigger based F eighteen first strike windows starts. Target
Speaker 1: terrorist is at his known location, shows should be on time.
Speaker 1: Also strikes drone launch MQ nine's I don't know what
Speaker 1: all this stuff means, but some bad people might know
Speaker 1: what it all means. Fourteen ten more F eighteen's launched
Speaker 1: second strike package fourteen to fifteen strike drones on target.
Speaker 1: This is when the first bombs will definitely drop, pending
Speaker 1: earlier trigger based targets. Fifteen thirty six eighteen second strike starts.
Speaker 1: Also first sea based tomahawks launched. That is pretty specific. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and as they right in the Atlantic. Let us pause
Speaker 1: here for a moment to underscore a point.
Speaker 3: This signal message shows that the US Secretary of Defense
Speaker 3: texted a group that included a phone number unknown to
Speaker 3: him Goldberg's cell phone at eleven forty four am, thirty
Speaker 3: one minutes before the first US warplanes launched, in two
Speaker 3: hours and one minute before the beginning of the period
Speaker 3: in which the primary target was expected to be killed.
Speaker 1: As a who the leader.
Speaker 3: If this text had been received by someone hostile to
Speaker 3: American interests or merely someone indiscreet with access to social media,
Speaker 3: the Houthis would have had time to prepare for what
Speaker 3: was meant to be a surprise attack on the strongholds.
Speaker 3: The consequences for American pilots could have been catastrophic.
Speaker 1: Director of National Intelligence Tulci Gabbard yesterday and the CIA
Speaker 1: director John Ratcliffe were among eighteen officials in the signal
Speaker 1: messaging channel. So there's your answer there. It was eighteen.
Speaker 1: We're adamant that they didn't divulge classified information. Well, so
Speaker 1: the question the hearing yesterday that never really got an
Speaker 1: answer is well, if this wasn't classified, why he wasn't
Speaker 1: it classified? It sure sounds like the sort of thing
Speaker 1: that ought to be classified it And they kept getting hammered.
Speaker 1: Mark Warner, the Democratic chair, kept saying, well, then shares
Speaker 1: all the details, and they wouldn't do it in the
Speaker 1: public hearing. So you won't share these in a public hearing.
Speaker 1: But you're saying they're not classified. It's one or the other. Right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: this is a floundering, it's amateur hour. It's embarrassing.
Speaker 3: And if you're tuning in hoping to hear Trump always right,
Speaker 3: administration always right, Democrats always wrong.
Speaker 1: You know, we.
Speaker 3: On the right side of the Aisle have to do
Speaker 3: better than this, like the tele what the hell? I
Speaker 3: can never remember the name of the app Signal in December,
Speaker 3: and we played a tape of a commentator on Fox
Speaker 3: News yesterday saying this. In December, the federal government said, Hey,
Speaker 3: signal is just fine. Put it on your phone, use
Speaker 3: it for encrypted chats. But then in February the CIA
Speaker 3: put out an advisory saying, hey, the Russians have figured
Speaker 3: out a way to hack into signal, do not use it.
Speaker 1: That somebody must have missed.
Speaker 3: And Steve Whitkoff, who's the President's he's a friend from
Speaker 3: New York. He's a businessman, a good negotiator, and he's
Speaker 3: done some good stuff. But he was in Moscow using
Speaker 3: signal under the nose of the Russians who listened to everything.
Speaker 3: They know when you flush the toilet if you're any
Speaker 3: sort of American official in Moscow. And so it was
Speaker 3: just an own goal, as they say in soccer. It
Speaker 3: was throwing three consecutive interceptions. And just because it's my team,
Speaker 3: I'm not going to say those were good interceptions.
Speaker 1: We like interceptions. No, this was dumb. They got to
Speaker 1: do better. So you were discussing civic war plans in
Speaker 1: Moscow on a commercial text chat thingy, yes, that seems crazy.
Speaker 1: Now the new revelations from Jeffrey Goldberg, which again I
Speaker 1: think he probably wasn't going to publish. I don't know
Speaker 1: if he was or not, but he might not have
Speaker 1: been going to publish until he got so much pushback
Speaker 1: of people saying no, no, we didn't share anything. So
Speaker 1: he put this stuff out today and both Tulsea Gabbard
Speaker 1: and Ratcliffe that's your DNI and CIA director say they
Speaker 1: deny any knowledge that the messages including details about weapons, packages,
Speaker 1: targets or timing. Well, unless you think Goldberg's completely making
Speaker 1: this up, and I don't it absolutely detailed packages and timing.
Speaker 3: I mean, so they're doubling down on Goldberg's making this up. Essentially, No,
Speaker 3: this is so bad. Oh yeah, I guess it will. Yeah,
Speaker 3: but you're you could do literally anything and still have
Speaker 3: that chunk of people. Tell me, tell me what's wrong
Speaker 3: with this, and feel free to if you want to
Speaker 3: weigh in ba a text or email the text lines
Speaker 3: four one five two niney five kftc uh. That's four
Speaker 3: one five two nine five kftc or if you like email,
Speaker 3: mail bag at Armstrong and Getty dot com.
Speaker 1: But if you were to say this was.
Speaker 3: A serious mistake, we are embarrassed.
Speaker 1: We will never do it again.
Speaker 3: We appreciate the Atlantic and mister Goldberg's restraint in not
Speaker 3: publishing information that could be dangerous to American troops in
Speaker 3: the field. Wouldn't this all peter out? Yes, And now
Speaker 3: you're going with no, no, no, we didn't. No, it
Speaker 3: wasn't classified. And so Goldber's like, you call me a liar. No,
Speaker 3: I got to prove I'm not right. I don't what
Speaker 3: is strategy at all?
Speaker 1: Your method? You know, on cable news channels they would
Speaker 1: have continued to hammer it and look how incompetent they
Speaker 1: are and bought. But but nobody watches those channels, knowing
Speaker 1: no matter the over all how big a story this is,
Speaker 1: would have dwindled a ton if that.
Speaker 3: One sided tennis match, if you stop hitting the ball
Speaker 3: back to them.
Speaker 1: So here's the reality because of the way it was handled.
Speaker 1: Tulsi Gabbard. As we speak, I'm looking at the cable news.
Speaker 1: Today's the House version of the World Threats hearing that
Speaker 1: they have every year. So it was the Senate version
Speaker 1: yesterday it's a House Intelligence committee today. And are they
Speaker 1: talking about worldwide threats? No, they're talking about this signal
Speaker 1: chat thing and how it happened. And she's being questioned
Speaker 1: right there, it says, up there, I'm looking at Fox
Speaker 1: Intel chiefs testify as new chat details revealed. So they're
Speaker 1: hammering Tulsi Gabbard over this new stuff. Excuse me? This
Speaker 1: shear looks like war plans to me. So they could
Speaker 1: have ended this by just you know, this is truth
Speaker 1: through your whole life for everyone. We all know this.
Speaker 1: Maybe you figured out in childhood. Maybe you don't figure
Speaker 1: it out the lid. That's quicker. You just come clean
Speaker 1: and say I screwed up. Your life is so much
Speaker 1: better always.
Speaker 3: Or two, harken back to the nineteen What a fine
Speaker 3: and exciting time that was. Inflation was rampant, Nixon was impeached,
Speaker 3: Jerry Ford was walking into doorways and and something else happened.
Speaker 1: I don't remember.
Speaker 3: Just go rule the airwaves, disc go rule the air
Speaker 3: thank you. Uh No, it's not the crime, it's the
Speaker 3: cover up. It's the cover up that brings you down. Hey,
Speaker 3: we screwed up, embarrassed, We've fixed it. It's into the
Speaker 3: Atlantic and mister Goldberg, it's human nature on such an
Speaker 3: interesting level. And it's true.
Speaker 1: Like picturing kids, you can picture the government stuff or whatever.
Speaker 1: If your kid comes here and say, I just I
Speaker 1: don't I took the cookies and I shouldn't have, and
Speaker 1: I hate myself forward, I don't like eating that crab.
Speaker 1: It makes me feel bad. I'm trying to stop and
Speaker 1: I just but I saw him there, and I could say,
Speaker 1: you feel bad for him, You feel compassionate. If they
Speaker 1: say I didn't eat the cookies with crumbs around their lips,
Speaker 1: you feel like they're calling you stupid. Yes, I mean
Speaker 1: it for a liar. Yeah, uh goodness.
Speaker 3: If we screw this up, we don't get a chance
Speaker 3: to do the good stuff. That's why I call, you know,
Speaker 3: my own team for running a bad offense.
Speaker 1: To get back to the sports to metaphor, Yeah, so
Speaker 1: this has got at least one more day in it,
Speaker 1: and so I'm sure you're staying on top of the
Speaker 1: answers they're giving to Okay, now we see more of
Speaker 1: these are they are they claiming they're made up? Are
Speaker 1: they claiming they're not real? It would be your only
Speaker 1: home unless you're it's the only thing you could do.
Speaker 3: You know, I'm kind of disappointed in you, Jack, speaking
Speaker 3: of calling fouls that you haven't hit me with a single.
Speaker 3: So you wanted Kamla to win. And that's always such
Speaker 3: a fun part of these discussions.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that is always good. We got a
Speaker 1: lot more news all the way.
Speaker 3: Stay here switching gears to some business news apples so
Speaker 3: that they're working on adding a camera to the Apple Watch.
Speaker 1: Yeah, out of commercial to say, look at this.
Speaker 4: For years, your iPhone camera has captured life's biggest moments,
Speaker 4: and now we've added a camera to your Apple Watch,
Speaker 4: so you can capture more new moments like your chin midsneed,
Speaker 4: the inside of your jacket sleeve, the ceiling of your
Speaker 4: dead is soften, an accidental close up of a stranger
Speaker 4: scratch at Starbucks, the Apple Watch with camera and the
Speaker 4: battery is dead.
Speaker 1: Oh you know, funny coincidence.
Speaker 3: Later this hour, I wanted to talk about I quit
Speaker 3: Google for Chat, GPT and other AI search and I'm
Speaker 3: not going back.
Speaker 1: This is the person who uses Apple device. Oh I
Speaker 1: might be on board with that. Goodbye Google boy. In
Speaker 1: mentioning that, so I talk a lot about the Apple Watch,
Speaker 1: I just I just love all the stuff I can
Speaker 1: do it. I have my car app on there, I
Speaker 1: have my bank stuff, I pay for everything app. I
Speaker 1: don't need a car. I don't really need anything in
Speaker 1: my pocket. I just just as long as I got
Speaker 1: my watch with But every I want to leave my
Speaker 1: phone behind more often, just so I don't look at it.
Speaker 1: But every time I leave it behind, it always turns
Speaker 1: out to be a mistake. We headed out the other day,
Speaker 1: we went on a bike ride downtown. I left my
Speaker 1: phone behind, and my my high schooler, said, you're going
Speaker 1: to regret it. I guarantee you're going to regret it,
Speaker 1: and I said, I don't think so. I think I'll
Speaker 1: be fine. Anyway, we get downtown, too tired to walk back.
Speaker 1: Want to get ano uber. I don't have my phone,
Speaker 1: so I can't get an uber or something else that
Speaker 1: happened I need my phone for I wanted to take
Speaker 1: a picture of something. Oh, that'd be cool. I get
Speaker 1: it's right. I don't know my phone just every time,
Speaker 1: and it's so frustrating to me. Oh that's how they
Speaker 1: get you. That is how they get you. Anyway, we
Speaker 1: got this text before we get to real news. Joe
Speaker 1: has mentioned over the years. This seems to be true. People.
Speaker 1: If people are going to refer to something we said,
Speaker 1: one of us said, it's they get it wrong like
Speaker 1: a hundred percent of the time. Yes, what's amazing. Why
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter at all at all, But it's just
Speaker 1: interesting that people always get it wrong. And I'm pretty
Speaker 1: sure this one is backwards. Can you please ask Joe.
Speaker 1: I think it was me to restate his strategy for
Speaker 1: winning hockey getting a morbidly obese goalie, big fat goalie. Oh,
Speaker 1: that's jack strategy. I thought of that just the other day.
Speaker 1: I came up. I thought about that years ago. I
Speaker 1: think it's when Manuel Eurebe was in the news all
Speaker 1: the time. He was the world's fattest man, a guy
Speaker 1: who lived in Mexico. He has since passed from being
Speaker 1: thirteen hundred pounds right over one thousand pounds. Yea, And
Speaker 1: I couldn't understand why a an NHL team wouldn't hire
Speaker 1: a twelve hundred pound guy to just sit in the
Speaker 1: goal and fill out the whole thing. I know it's
Speaker 1: because I saw a picture of him in his bed
Speaker 1: and he filled like an entire king sized bed. Put
Speaker 1: him in the goal with some pads, your shut out
Speaker 1: every opponent. Is there a reason this hasn't happened? It's
Speaker 1: a fit MacB. But yeah, you've been touting that for years.
Speaker 1: You'd be the world's greatest goalie. You'd make lots of money. Chick.
Speaker 3: I don't know, if chicks had throw themselves out, maybe,
Speaker 3: oh yeah, let's hang on.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I still think it's a pretty good idea. Well,
Speaker 1: you'd you'd.
Speaker 3: Make a lot of money until the other teams realized
Speaker 3: they could do the same thing, and then they would
Speaker 3: just I don't know, rule the grotesquely obese or Okay,
Speaker 3: we're into prison them and feed them.
Speaker 1: I don't know. We're into season two of all zero
Speaker 1: zero games because everybody's hired a big, bad goalie. We're
Speaker 1: gonna have to change a rule somehow away in for goalies.
Speaker 1: I don't know. Yes, I realize that's stupid, but I
Speaker 1: still haven't heard of work around.
Speaker 3: Okay that I'm completely distracted now I want to get
Speaker 3: into the hole.
Speaker 1: Is social Security a Ponzi scheme? Conversation? Which is a dumb,
Speaker 1: dumb conversation. I admit it has come up many times
Speaker 1: over the decades, so many mentions so security being a
Speaker 1: Ponzi scheme, and then the pushback and response is just
Speaker 1: so over the top, even though it resembles a Ponzi
Speaker 1: scheme in so many ways structurally, literally, absolutely so politically.
Speaker 1: Elon said it the other day. There was a fact
Speaker 1: check on him, and then a fact check with the
Speaker 1: definition of a Ponzi scheme. It came up in a
Speaker 1: hearing yesterday with Elizabeth Warren blah blah blah. Will play
Speaker 1: it all out for you coming up. I hope you
Speaker 1: can stick around, Armstrong and getty.
Speaker 5: Social Security is the biggest Ponzi scheme of all time. Basically,
Speaker 5: people are living way longer than expected. There are a
Speaker 5: few babies being born, so you have more people who
Speaker 5: are retired and that live for a long time and
Speaker 5: get retirement payments. So have a bad The financial situation
Speaker 5: is right now for the federal government.
Speaker 1: It will be much worse in the future.
Speaker 6: Do you believe that sold security is a Ponzi scheme?
Speaker 7: I believe it's a promise to pay. It's in eighty
Speaker 7: nine your institution, so far it will continue.
Speaker 6: Yes, or now do you think it's a Ponzi scheme?
Speaker 6: It's a promise to pay.
Speaker 1: So that's from a hearing yesterday with the Democrats grilling
Speaker 1: the Republican who runs the Social Security trying to get
Speaker 1: him to contradict to Elon Musk, who's you know, working
Speaker 1: with the president on trying to cut costs and deal
Speaker 1: with let's going bankrupt. Elon Musk said on Joe Rogan
Speaker 1: fairly recently, what you just heard that Social Security is
Speaker 1: upon this scheme. And I can't believe we're still having
Speaker 1: this conversation. I mean we probably first had it two
Speaker 1: thousand five.
Speaker 3: Hey, I'm sorry, that's twenty got to interrupted. I've got
Speaker 3: to interrupt you. Based on that clip. I'm just jotting
Speaker 3: this down from my personal notes from my memoir. March
Speaker 3: twenty six, ten thirty six a m. Eastern time was
Speaker 3: the moment I gave up on democracy. That exchange crushed
Speaker 3: my spirit for your memoir.
Speaker 1: Ah, good lord.
Speaker 3: So yeah, let's let's not talk about the structural problems
Speaker 3: or the challenge. Let's just try to catch each other
Speaker 3: and saying the thing we can embarrass each other over.
Speaker 1: Good lord.
Speaker 3: I know it's so sorry, Doctor Franklin, Sorry General Washington.
Speaker 1: We mucked it up. So I was listening to uh,
Speaker 1: some cable news hosts talking about George Bush taking on
Speaker 1: Social Security and what a dumb plan it was, and
Speaker 1: what a mistake it was political mistake, and they're just
Speaker 1: talking about the politics of it. If you want to
Speaker 1: just be very crass. Bottom line, all that matters is
Speaker 1: getting re elected. Yes, it is stupid to take on
Speaker 1: Social Security, and Trump knows that. That's why he always says,
Speaker 1: not going to touch it, not going to touch it.
Speaker 1: But if you want to live in reality at all,
Speaker 1: what George Bush planned to do, I think it was
Speaker 1: it was second term, so I think it was two
Speaker 1: thousand and five when he started talking about privatizing it
Speaker 1: and you could, you could take some of it and
Speaker 1: invest it and make you know, more money and theory
Speaker 1: in the stock market over time, almost guaranteed than the
Speaker 1: three person I think it grows in the government barely.
Speaker 3: If you'd if that had gotten through at the time,
Speaker 3: you'd be listening to the podcast on a yacht in
Speaker 3: the Mediterranean and not getting crusts of bread from the
Speaker 3: government every month. My retired friends, Oh.
Speaker 1: And he got killed and uh. And they referred to
Speaker 1: it as a Ponzi scheme back then, and just got killed.
Speaker 1: How dare you call FDR rescuing the working class calling
Speaker 1: it a Ponzi scheme? Bob blah. First, I suppose we
Speaker 1: should started here. How many of you know people that
Speaker 1: don't know what a Ponzi scheme is. It's like, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, if you're a selling water purifiers or tupperware
Speaker 1: or I don't know. There's all kinds of different things
Speaker 1: out there that are Ponzi schemes where.
Speaker 3: I actually the classic one is like the airplane thing
Speaker 3: that was hot for a cup of coffee in college,
Speaker 3: where you buy seats on the so called airplane, and
Speaker 3: then as it fills up, the people who are in
Speaker 3: the front of the plane become the co pilot and pilot.
Speaker 3: Then they get paid off, make a huge amount of
Speaker 3: money relative to their investment, and then as long as
Speaker 3: more people are coming in at the bottom, right, the
Speaker 3: people at the top get paid.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And there's a I had friends that got into
Speaker 1: the water purifier thing in the nineties or whatever, and
Speaker 1: it was classic Ponzi scheme, and they'd come hit you with, say,
Speaker 1: I'm making three hundred thousand dollars a month. You know
Speaker 1: why I've had I've had two hundred people underneath me
Speaker 1: selling water purifires, and it was true that they were.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's not wasn't a lie. It's just that
Speaker 1: the people underneath you need to also sign up a
Speaker 1: whole bunch of people to sell water purifiers and this album.
Speaker 1: And then but as soon as it stops, it all
Speaker 1: falls apart. As soon as that lower level can add
Speaker 1: in more people, the whole thing falls apart.
Speaker 3: Well. In the difference in social security is that it's
Speaker 3: not a question of attracting people to what seems like
Speaker 3: a profitable proposition. It's just the sheer number of young
Speaker 3: workers versus retirees. It's a function of demographics, not like
Speaker 3: sales persuasion.
Speaker 1: So that George bushmaier, hey there you go. Wow, I'll
Speaker 1: be good to hear from you. But I hated that
Speaker 1: the conversation I saw on cable news about what George
Speaker 1: Bush to just labeled only as stupid. Again, if you're
Speaker 1: just going to be cold, crass politics, which is what
Speaker 1: most politicians are, it is stupid. But would somebody please
Speaker 1: throw in a and completely necessary in there. Maybe it
Speaker 1: was stupid politics, but one hundred percent necessary and patriotic
Speaker 1: to stick your neck out politically to try to take
Speaker 1: this on as opposed to it works, you'd be hailed
Speaker 1: as a hero as opposed to kick the can on
Speaker 1: down the road for someone else AnyWho. Uh to the
Speaker 1: Ponzi scheme comment that Elon made on Rogan's podcast James
Speaker 1: Freeman in the Wall Street Journal Political Political PolitiFact versus
Speaker 1: Elon Musk, PolitiFact is, in fact, is grading the comment
Speaker 1: from Elon Musk social Security is the biggest Ponzi scheme
Speaker 1: of all time as false because it's not a Ponzi scheme.
Speaker 1: The headline from James Freeman is do victims of Ponzi
Speaker 1: schemes feel better if the schemes are legal? As in,
Speaker 1: it is a Ponzi scheme, but because it's guaranteed by
Speaker 1: the government in certain ways, it's not. And you know,
Speaker 1: there's no guarantee that the water purifier scheme. Somebody's going
Speaker 1: to fill that in at the bottom of the at
Speaker 1: the point of you know, a legal gun by law
Speaker 1: at some point. Anyway. PolitiFact calls this statement false because
Speaker 1: Alex Christie of Newsbuster notes much of PolitiFact's argument rests
Speaker 1: on the fact that Social Security is a government program.
Speaker 1: When it comes to describing how the program actually operates.
Speaker 1: The following political fact passage is bound to convince a
Speaker 1: number of readers that mister Musk has spoken the truth,
Speaker 1: and they go through how social security works. Then, uh,
Speaker 1: this university professor said, this structure of social security, where
Speaker 1: you have workers coming in, you're not getting your money back. No,
Speaker 1: I don't know how many people don't understand that. Surely
Speaker 1: you understand that by now. And this goes back to
Speaker 1: the two thousand election and Al Gore talking about a
Speaker 1: lock box, this idea that I'm paying into Social Security.
Speaker 1: It's an account somewhere and it's growing, and then they're
Speaker 1: going to start sending me checks when I retire. No,
Speaker 1: they spent that money that I sent them when I
Speaker 1: was twenty two working to retirees in nineteen whatever that
Speaker 1: was eighty seven, and to just other crap too, just expenditures. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they are any other debts, probably interest payments in a
Speaker 1: lot of cases. The university professor said. This structure has
Speaker 1: similarities to how Ponzi scheme investors provide payouts to earlier
Speaker 1: investors if they're no longer enough workers to provide enough
Speaker 1: payroll contributions to pay out benefits to retired workers. Then
Speaker 1: this system would fail similar exactly to how a Ponzi
Speaker 1: scheme would fail in the same manner, said the university professor.
Speaker 1: So it's exactly a Ponzi scheme. It's only different than
Speaker 1: it's backed by the federal government and they're going to
Speaker 1: have to take the money from somewhere or by law
Speaker 1: change the amount that you're going to receive in payments.
Speaker 1: This is why I've given up on democracy.
Speaker 3: Even a question so clearly, I mean, there's there's true
Speaker 3: and there's false in this. It's not like how strong
Speaker 3: should America's military be and how much should we spend money,
Speaker 3: where honest people can disagree. This is just a question
Speaker 3: of fact and and people calling it a spont a
Speaker 3: Ponzi scheme, a Ponzi scheme. They're talking about the structure,
Speaker 3: and then phony liar Elizabeth Warren acts as though they're
Speaker 3: talking about the intent of it. That's this is not criminal,
Speaker 3: This is the government. This is the promise to No,
Speaker 3: we're talking about the structure. We're only talking about the structure.
Speaker 3: You lying, fake Indian.
Speaker 6: Do you believe that solid Security is a Ponzi scheme?
Speaker 7: I believe it's a promise to pay. It's an eighty
Speaker 7: nine your institution. So far it will continue?
Speaker 1: Yes?
Speaker 6: Or now do you think it's a Ponzi scheme?
Speaker 1: Yes, they're no, it's a promise to pay.
Speaker 3: I hate you. I hate this process. It's stabbing democracy
Speaker 3: in the liver. I despise every moment of this. I'm
Speaker 3: counting the seconds until I get out of this stupid.
Speaker 1: Stupid hearing. Yeah, and well, we'll play this first. This
Speaker 1: is Elizabeth Warren grilling the Social Security Republican a little more.
Speaker 8: If you are confirmed in this job, will you commit
Speaker 8: to reversing these cuts so that seniors get the money
Speaker 8: that the law says they are entitled to.
Speaker 7: What I will commit to is that I will run
Speaker 7: the agency, and I will be in charge of the agency,
Speaker 7: and I will look at every item you want me
Speaker 7: to look at.
Speaker 8: That's not what I'm asking you. I'm asking you just
Speaker 8: answered the previous questions by saying you.
Speaker 1: Would follow the law.
Speaker 8: The law is to deliver the benefits that people are
Speaker 8: legally entitled to. If you don't have the staff, if
Speaker 8: you don't answer the phones, if you don't fix the mistakes,
Speaker 8: people don't get what they're legally entitled to. So I
Speaker 8: want to know, are you willing to commit right now
Speaker 8: that you will put enough people back to work so
Speaker 8: they can do the job of delivering the benefits that
Speaker 8: Americans earned.
Speaker 7: I'll guess or no, I'll commit to have the right
Speaker 7: stuff and to get the job done.
Speaker 8: To get the job done, meaning delivering the benefits people
Speaker 8: are entitled to.
Speaker 1: Yes, I'm going to hold you to that.
Speaker 3: I promise that they'll get all the wampum and blankets
Speaker 3: to us they're entitled.
Speaker 1: Michael just said, in my ear, she's bringing the firewater.
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's an expression. I tell you what.
Speaker 3: The only thing I hate Elizabeth Warren. She is such
Speaker 3: a lying phony. But the Doge guys have cut like
Speaker 3: the customer service end of Social Security right now, and
Speaker 3: it's become a bit of a nightmare to deal with.
Speaker 3: I have a friend who's been telling me about it. Guys,
Speaker 3: be smart in near cuts, be strategic, add those people
Speaker 3: back in.
Speaker 1: It still gets down to there have to be cuts.
Speaker 1: You either have to raise taxes or cut the program,
Speaker 1: or we have to make major changes. It doesn't work.
Speaker 1: And the fact that we can't talk about that is
Speaker 1: so nuts. I mean, you're inside conversation. He's having his head.
Speaker 1: I'll continue to answer your questions. You know you're lying,
Speaker 1: you're playing to your stupidest voters, and you know what
Speaker 1: you're doing. I know what you're doing. Everybody in this
Speaker 1: room knows what we're doing. We're going to continue to
Speaker 1: do this kabuki theater because this is how it works.
Speaker 1: And luckily I'm old and I'll die before I have
Speaker 1: to see how it bleeds out. I mean, that's actually
Speaker 1: what they're thinking. Yeah, yeah, boy, well I'm not sure
Speaker 1: I can go on, Michael. I mean, that's just ivan.
Speaker 1: You would think that in a room full of people
Speaker 1: you could get one Republican and one Democrat because it
Speaker 1: flips back and forth. True, because you saw when Republicans
Speaker 1: were screaming at Biden because he was going to cut
Speaker 1: social Security in theory and he wasn't at the State
Speaker 1: of the Union address. I mean, so it works on
Speaker 1: both sides. But anyway, you think you could get in
Speaker 1: these hearings one Republican one Democrat? At some point, say
Speaker 1: how about a GM you and me or Linda or
Speaker 1: whatever could be a woman. Let's you and I just
Speaker 1: have a conversation separate from all these politics, that it's
Speaker 1: going broke. It doesn't work, the math doesn't work. We've
Speaker 1: got to make radical changes one way or got any ideas? Yeah,
Speaker 1: what do you think we ought to do? And let's
Speaker 1: have this conversation separate from all these people who are
Speaker 1: playing to their voters and acting like this isn't true.
Speaker 1: But you can't even get two people to say that, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I appreciate your you're even trying. It's cute.
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Speaker 1: I would say calling it the biggest Ponzi scheme of
Speaker 1: all time is one hundred percent accurate. The amount of money,
Speaker 1: the biggest ponzee scheme of all time, and it's going
Speaker 1: to crash in my kids generation. Certainly we got more
Speaker 1: on the way Armstrong, Honey, Lucy say.
Speaker 9: Forty six year old Gerhard Cone was hiking a poly
Speaker 9: trail in o' Wahoo with his wife, thirty six year
Speaker 9: old Ariel Koenig, when he struck her in the head
Speaker 9: with a rock and tried to push her off the ledge.
Speaker 9: Polly Say, the attack hambage around ten am on Monday,
Speaker 9: when the couple was visiting the tourist site located just
Speaker 9: outside Honolulu. She was taken to a local hospital with
Speaker 9: multiple injuries to the head and face, where police say
Speaker 9: she remains in critical condition. After a day long manhunt,
Speaker 9: Hawaiian police confirmed they arrested Koenig after chasing him on foot.
Speaker 9: He's being held behind bars and criminal charges are pending.
Speaker 1: So where'd you get the detail you threw in about that, Katie?
Speaker 1: About what they the argument that ensued. Where'd you come
Speaker 1: up with? Then? That was attached to a couple of articles.
Speaker 1: So the story, what's the story you have? They're out hiking,
Speaker 1: husband and wife, and what happens they're out hiking. He
Speaker 1: wants to take a picture with her and she said no,
Speaker 1: and he lost it so hit her with a rock
Speaker 1: and heaved her over the cliff. Sure he did the
Speaker 1: next logical thing, tried to push her off a cliff.
Speaker 1: Why didn't she just get her picture taken? I don't know.
Speaker 1: I'll ask her.
Speaker 3: Wow, wow, wow, good looking couple too, But who knows
Speaker 3: what evil lurks in the hearts of mess.
Speaker 1: Should hit her in the head with a rock? But hey,
Speaker 1: why are you being so obstinate. We're on vacation, we
Speaker 1: want memorials.
Speaker 3: And he's an anesthesiologist, so he knows that hitting someone
Speaker 3: in the head with a rock is not anesthesia. I
Speaker 3: mean it has a similar effect ultimately.
Speaker 1: But wow.
Speaker 3: So this is a moneyed couple, highly educated. His wife's
Speaker 3: a nuclear engineer.
Speaker 1: Wow. And it's not being portrayed as like it was
Speaker 1: a plan. You know, he's he's got a mistress or
Speaker 1: insurance money or because we've heard this sort of thing before.
Speaker 1: It was an all of a sudden, lose your temper
Speaker 1: thing that I don't remember hearing, especially among older successful people.
Speaker 1: Not like it's a couple of meth heads.
Speaker 3: Well right, yeah, exactly. They've been married six and a half,
Speaker 3: seven year or something like that.
Speaker 1: Not another picture, she says, I want a nice picture
Speaker 1: with the sunset and you in front. I'm not doing it.
Speaker 1: Where's a rock? Wow, that's just nutty. No, he was
Speaker 1: planning to killer, it's gotta be. That's why I think
Speaker 1: that detail is a red herring. Canard.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a well, it is a red herring. He's
Speaker 3: he's trying to come up with oh my god, I'm
Speaker 3: busted crime of passion is my only defense. Yeah, and
Speaker 3: just to reduce the sentence because premeditated you're done.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, exactly exactly. I know you like this story, Katie.
Speaker 1: I know a woman, so she would have been at
Speaker 1: the time mid twenties, very serious boyfriend and they were
Speaker 1: out hiking it. He said to her, they're on standby cliff.
Speaker 1: He said, Man, if I pushed you off this cliff,
Speaker 1: nobody would ever know. Yeah, and she broke up with
Speaker 1: him over that. Good very serious too. What a weird
Speaker 1: thought and thing to say. You should say that. Not
Speaker 1: everybody's got weird thoughts, but to go ay by the
Speaker 1: way and not standing next to the cliff and make
Speaker 1: me a little. I think I'll ease away from this cliff, and.
Speaker 3: How about you walk in front of me for the
Speaker 3: rest of the hike. And I taught my daughter daughters, Katie.
Speaker 3: I heard a self defense expert talking about this. Women,
Speaker 3: if you have the urge to cross the street or
Speaker 3: you're concerned in a parking lot, don't turn that voice
Speaker 3: off because of either political correctness or no I need
Speaker 3: to be brave. No, listen to that voice. Likewise, with dudes,
Speaker 3: if you're getting the this is wrong. This is not right.
Speaker 1: Don't touch yourself out of it. Don't even worry about why, yeah,
Speaker 1: or if the guy you're with, I just.
Speaker 3: Show you right off this cliff and I never get caught. Boy,
Speaker 3: I don't know if he used that menacing tone.
Speaker 1: Okay, by the way, this did you know I could
Speaker 1: make you disappear? Yeah? No, not a good good thing. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And they were like, uh, they were a long way
Speaker 1: away on vacation. I want to say where because I
Speaker 1: want to give away who is. But uh, they were
Speaker 1: like way far away into vacation, so they had to
Speaker 1: fly back and everything like that. I don't remember she
Speaker 1: broke up with him there and they came back or
Speaker 1: after we got back or what. But oh geez, I'm
Speaker 1: glad this guy got I'm glad this guy wasn't successful
Speaker 1: because it would have been pretty hard to prove, you know,
Speaker 1: if she stumbled and fell off the cliff, come back
Speaker 1: and weep and gnash your.
Speaker 3: Teeth that, oh my god, my wife, and then keep
Speaker 3: your story consistent.
Speaker 1: That's how they always get you. But especially in the
Speaker 1: with the in the modern area, there's so many stories
Speaker 1: you know of people doing selfies or taking pictures and
Speaker 1: falling off cliffs and whatnot. It happens for real. I
Speaker 1: told her step back. I didn't know she was Oh yeah.
Speaker 3: Selfie deaths are rampant these days. Charles Darwin his hand
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