WEBVTT - We Mucked It Up 0:00:01.840 --> 0:00:06.120 Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio the George 0:00:06.200 --> 0:00:10.720 Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty. I'm strong 0:00:10.760 --> 0:00:17.240 and get and he Armstrong and Getty. 0:00:23.960 --> 0:00:26.599 So you don't know what staffer is responsible for this 0:00:26.920 --> 0:00:30.760 right now? Well, look, a staffer wasn't responsible. And look, 0:00:30.840 --> 0:00:33.559 I take full responsibility. I built the I built the 0:00:33.600 --> 0:00:36.279 group to my job is to make sure everything's coordinated. 0:00:36.320 --> 0:00:37.240 But how did that's cute? 0:00:37.280 --> 0:00:38.800 I mean, I don't mean to be pedantic here, but 0:00:38.800 --> 0:00:39.400 how did the number? 0:00:39.479 --> 0:00:39.960 Have you ever had? 0:00:40.120 --> 0:00:42.360 Have you ever had somebody's contact that shows their name 0:00:42.440 --> 0:00:46.400 and then you have an and then you have somebody else? Right, 0:00:46.440 --> 0:00:50.320 you've got somebody else's number on someone else's contact. So 0:00:50.360 --> 0:00:52.760 of course I didn't see this loser in the group. 0:00:52.840 --> 0:00:54.920 It looked like someone else. Now, whether he did it 0:00:54.960 --> 0:00:58.760 deliberately or it happened in some other technical means something 0:00:58.760 --> 0:00:59.320 we're trying. 0:00:59.120 --> 0:01:02.680 To figure out at your National Security Advisor Waltz on 0:01:02.880 --> 0:01:06.240 Laura Ingram last night, taking full responsibility for adding the 0:01:06.360 --> 0:01:09.880 journalist Jeffrey Goldberg into the chat that has been discussed 0:01:09.880 --> 0:01:13.679 so much in the last uh thirty six hours. 0:01:14.480 --> 0:01:17.319 But then suggesting it was an innocent mistake anybody could 0:01:17.319 --> 0:01:20.440 have made, or it was Jeffrey Goldberg's skullduggery that got 0:01:20.480 --> 0:01:23.400 him in that group. I like Mike Waltz a lot. 0:01:23.760 --> 0:01:27.200 I like him policy wise, I like him personally. I 0:01:27.319 --> 0:01:29.560 like the cut of his jib that was weak. 0:01:29.760 --> 0:01:31.319 Well, I don't want to get sidetracked by this, but 0:01:31.360 --> 0:01:34.959 do you think he's wondering how the hell did this happen? Yes? 0:01:35.160 --> 0:01:38.399 Guaranteed, yes, some staffer of his put together the contact 0:01:38.440 --> 0:01:41.560 card for say Marco Rubio or somebody else. 0:01:41.640 --> 0:01:43.760 Rubio's already known what contact he was. 0:01:43.800 --> 0:01:47.600 But you know, okay, here is the Secretary of Energies 0:01:47.920 --> 0:01:53.040 contact information, and somehow it was Jeffrey Goldberg of the Atlantic. 0:01:55.040 --> 0:01:56.600 Why a lot of people say a lot of crap, 0:01:56.680 --> 0:01:59.400 Like I've heard so much. You always know who's on 0:01:59.440 --> 0:02:01.240 a call, or whenever you get on a call, you 0:02:01.320 --> 0:02:03.600 check and see who else is on there? Whoever does that? 0:02:04.160 --> 0:02:08.080 Who know what? Scrolls through and make sure who's JG 0:02:08.320 --> 0:02:12.280 fifty two sixty two? That's me? Okay, who's who does that? 0:02:13.160 --> 0:02:15.760 How many folks were on this string? Do you recall? 0:02:16.040 --> 0:02:18.880 I don't know the total numbers. I keep hearing all 0:02:18.919 --> 0:02:21.720 the big names means I keep hearing all the big 0:02:21.800 --> 0:02:24.960 names SECT, deaf, SEC State, all that CIA director and 0:02:25.040 --> 0:02:26.760 assuming that's it, But there might have been a whole 0:02:26.800 --> 0:02:30.000 bunch of other people on there also. I don't know 0:02:34.960 --> 0:02:38.919 Scarborough this morning on Morning Joe, that show makes me insane, 0:02:39.040 --> 0:02:42.560 but I think I agree with him that the best 0:02:42.560 --> 0:02:45.560 thing they could do on this is just like really 0:02:45.639 --> 0:02:47.760 own it and move on and nobody would remember in 0:02:47.800 --> 0:02:51.919 the week. The denying things that are pretty obviously true 0:02:52.320 --> 0:02:56.520 is what is giving this story more legs. I agree 0:02:56.600 --> 0:02:58.240 with Joe Scarborough. God help me. 0:02:58.400 --> 0:03:00.880 It's so early in the administration and the strike was 0:03:00.919 --> 0:03:04.920 a success, So this is a really stupid the more 0:03:05.000 --> 0:03:07.720 I read, a really stupid breach of security, I mean 0:03:07.880 --> 0:03:11.400 really bad. But it was the dog that didn't bark, 0:03:12.120 --> 0:03:17.800 and so it's the perfect opportunity to come clean, confess errors, 0:03:18.200 --> 0:03:21.200 say we'll do better, and then move on. Don't offer 0:03:21.240 --> 0:03:23.280 any resistance that continues the scandal. 0:03:23.840 --> 0:03:26.520 Yeah, and just the whole this scumbag reporters sort of 0:03:26.600 --> 0:03:30.160 thing you added him in and saying. 0:03:29.880 --> 0:03:33.359 Over and over nothing classified was shared. Well, the Atlantic 0:03:33.440 --> 0:03:35.240 is putting out what was shared, and it was one 0:03:35.320 --> 0:03:38.240 hundred percent classified, highly classificed. 0:03:38.240 --> 0:03:39.880 Well, that leads us to this, So I'm going to 0:03:39.960 --> 0:03:42.760 read the New York Post version just because you know 0:03:42.840 --> 0:03:45.000 they lean trumpy. So you're going to get the most 0:03:45.000 --> 0:03:47.560 favorable view from the New York Post. And it's still damning. 0:03:48.320 --> 0:03:52.200 The Atlantic magazine on Wednesday published even more in quotes 0:03:52.400 --> 0:03:56.840 war plan text, laying out minute by minute operational details 0:03:56.880 --> 0:03:59.520 and exact weapons to be used in the yem and strikes. 0:04:00.080 --> 0:04:04.040 The Trump administration shot down claims that classified details were 0:04:04.080 --> 0:04:09.240 ever shared in the signal chat snaff who. The magazine's 0:04:09.240 --> 0:04:11.880 top editor, Jeffrey Goldberg, published additional snippets of the text 0:04:11.960 --> 0:04:15.280 exchange that he says he says revealed the precise operational details. 0:04:15.400 --> 0:04:17.280 The reason he's doing this is because they came out 0:04:17.320 --> 0:04:19.919 so hard against him yesterday. Say no, we never know 0:04:20.200 --> 0:04:23.000 that nothing was classified, and he's making this up and 0:04:23.040 --> 0:04:28.400 he's a stumbag. Also, So here we go. This is 0:04:28.760 --> 0:04:32.520 Pete Heggseth Team update time now eleven forty four Eastern time. 0:04:32.720 --> 0:04:35.279 Whether it's favorable, just confirmed with Sentcom we are a 0:04:35.279 --> 0:04:39.240 go for mission launch twelve fifteen Eastern time. F eighteen's 0:04:39.320 --> 0:04:43.240 launch first Strike Package thirteen forty five that's the time 0:04:43.320 --> 0:04:47.240 stamp trigger based F eighteen first strike windows starts. Target 0:04:47.320 --> 0:04:50.160 terrorist is at his known location, shows should be on time. 0:04:50.440 --> 0:04:53.240 Also strikes drone launch MQ nine's I don't know what 0:04:53.279 --> 0:04:55.960 all this stuff means, but some bad people might know 0:04:56.000 --> 0:04:58.960 what it all means. Fourteen ten more F eighteen's launched 0:04:58.960 --> 0:05:02.360 second strike package fourteen to fifteen strike drones on target. 0:05:02.400 --> 0:05:05.240 This is when the first bombs will definitely drop, pending 0:05:05.279 --> 0:05:09.680 earlier trigger based targets. Fifteen thirty six eighteen second strike starts. 0:05:09.720 --> 0:05:16.080 Also first sea based tomahawks launched. That is pretty specific. Yeah, 0:05:16.120 --> 0:05:19.359 and as they right in the Atlantic. Let us pause 0:05:19.400 --> 0:05:20.920 here for a moment to underscore a point. 0:05:21.000 --> 0:05:23.600 This signal message shows that the US Secretary of Defense 0:05:23.640 --> 0:05:26.039 texted a group that included a phone number unknown to 0:05:26.120 --> 0:05:28.960 him Goldberg's cell phone at eleven forty four am, thirty 0:05:28.960 --> 0:05:31.920 one minutes before the first US warplanes launched, in two 0:05:31.920 --> 0:05:34.400 hours and one minute before the beginning of the period 0:05:34.400 --> 0:05:36.920 in which the primary target was expected to be killed. 0:05:37.120 --> 0:05:38.520 As a who the leader. 0:05:39.080 --> 0:05:41.200 If this text had been received by someone hostile to 0:05:41.240 --> 0:05:45.200 American interests or merely someone indiscreet with access to social media, 0:05:45.240 --> 0:05:47.400 the Houthis would have had time to prepare for what 0:05:47.480 --> 0:05:49.560 was meant to be a surprise attack on the strongholds. 0:05:49.680 --> 0:05:52.760 The consequences for American pilots could have been catastrophic. 0:05:55.760 --> 0:05:59.320 Director of National Intelligence Tulci Gabbard yesterday and the CIA 0:05:59.400 --> 0:06:04.320 director John Ratcliffe were among eighteen officials in the signal 0:06:04.320 --> 0:06:06.920 messaging channel. So there's your answer there. It was eighteen. 0:06:07.200 --> 0:06:11.560 We're adamant that they didn't divulge classified information. Well, so 0:06:11.600 --> 0:06:13.680 the question the hearing yesterday that never really got an 0:06:13.720 --> 0:06:17.320 answer is well, if this wasn't classified, why he wasn't 0:06:17.320 --> 0:06:19.440 it classified? It sure sounds like the sort of thing 0:06:19.480 --> 0:06:24.799 that ought to be classified it And they kept getting hammered. 0:06:25.480 --> 0:06:28.599 Mark Warner, the Democratic chair, kept saying, well, then shares 0:06:28.600 --> 0:06:30.320 all the details, and they wouldn't do it in the 0:06:30.320 --> 0:06:33.800 public hearing. So you won't share these in a public hearing. 0:06:33.839 --> 0:06:38.039 But you're saying they're not classified. It's one or the other. Right, Yeah, 0:06:38.040 --> 0:06:41.280 this is a floundering, it's amateur hour. It's embarrassing. 0:06:41.400 --> 0:06:45.200 And if you're tuning in hoping to hear Trump always right, 0:06:45.320 --> 0:06:47.440 administration always right, Democrats always wrong. 0:06:47.680 --> 0:06:48.039 You know, we. 0:06:49.600 --> 0:06:51.040 On the right side of the Aisle have to do 0:06:51.120 --> 0:06:54.400 better than this, like the tele what the hell? I 0:06:54.400 --> 0:06:58.800 can never remember the name of the app Signal in December, 0:06:59.680 --> 0:07:02.440 and we played a tape of a commentator on Fox 0:07:02.520 --> 0:07:06.080 News yesterday saying this. In December, the federal government said, Hey, 0:07:06.800 --> 0:07:09.200 signal is just fine. Put it on your phone, use 0:07:09.240 --> 0:07:14.080 it for encrypted chats. But then in February the CIA 0:07:14.200 --> 0:07:16.880 put out an advisory saying, hey, the Russians have figured 0:07:16.920 --> 0:07:19.720 out a way to hack into signal, do not use it. 0:07:20.440 --> 0:07:22.040 That somebody must have missed. 0:07:22.080 --> 0:07:25.800 And Steve Whitkoff, who's the President's he's a friend from 0:07:26.440 --> 0:07:29.200 New York. He's a businessman, a good negotiator, and he's 0:07:29.240 --> 0:07:33.800 done some good stuff. But he was in Moscow using 0:07:34.160 --> 0:07:37.760 signal under the nose of the Russians who listened to everything. 0:07:37.800 --> 0:07:41.360 They know when you flush the toilet if you're any 0:07:41.360 --> 0:07:45.480 sort of American official in Moscow. And so it was 0:07:45.560 --> 0:07:49.720 just an own goal, as they say in soccer. It 0:07:49.800 --> 0:07:53.320 was throwing three consecutive interceptions. And just because it's my team, 0:07:53.560 --> 0:07:55.360 I'm not going to say those were good interceptions. 0:07:55.360 --> 0:07:58.160 We like interceptions. No, this was dumb. They got to 0:07:58.240 --> 0:08:02.000 do better. So you were discussing civic war plans in 0:08:02.240 --> 0:08:10.520 Moscow on a commercial text chat thingy, yes, that seems crazy. 0:08:11.960 --> 0:08:16.960 Now the new revelations from Jeffrey Goldberg, which again I 0:08:17.040 --> 0:08:20.480 think he probably wasn't going to publish. I don't know 0:08:20.480 --> 0:08:21.840 if he was or not, but he might not have 0:08:21.880 --> 0:08:24.000 been going to publish until he got so much pushback 0:08:24.240 --> 0:08:27.440 of people saying no, no, we didn't share anything. So 0:08:27.480 --> 0:08:30.400 he put this stuff out today and both Tulsea Gabbard 0:08:31.040 --> 0:08:34.880 and Ratcliffe that's your DNI and CIA director say they 0:08:35.000 --> 0:08:39.160 deny any knowledge that the messages including details about weapons, packages, 0:08:39.200 --> 0:08:43.720 targets or timing. Well, unless you think Goldberg's completely making 0:08:43.760 --> 0:08:48.800 this up, and I don't it absolutely detailed packages and timing. 0:08:49.000 --> 0:08:55.679 I mean, so they're doubling down on Goldberg's making this up. Essentially, No, 0:08:56.480 --> 0:09:01.920 this is so bad. Oh yeah, I guess it will. Yeah, 0:09:01.920 --> 0:09:04.600 but you're you could do literally anything and still have 0:09:04.640 --> 0:09:06.760 that chunk of people. Tell me, tell me what's wrong 0:09:06.800 --> 0:09:08.120 with this, and feel free to if you want to 0:09:08.160 --> 0:09:10.360 weigh in ba a text or email the text lines 0:09:10.360 --> 0:09:14.040 four one five two niney five kftc uh. That's four 0:09:14.040 --> 0:09:16.760 one five two nine five kftc or if you like email, 0:09:16.800 --> 0:09:18.720 mail bag at Armstrong and Getty dot com. 0:09:19.000 --> 0:09:21.719 But if you were to say this was. 0:09:21.720 --> 0:09:26.920 A serious mistake, we are embarrassed. 0:09:27.280 --> 0:09:28.720 We will never do it again. 0:09:28.880 --> 0:09:33.240 We appreciate the Atlantic and mister Goldberg's restraint in not 0:09:33.440 --> 0:09:37.200 publishing information that could be dangerous to American troops in 0:09:37.240 --> 0:09:41.880 the field. Wouldn't this all peter out? Yes, And now 0:09:41.920 --> 0:09:44.800 you're going with no, no, no, we didn't. No, it 0:09:44.840 --> 0:09:47.880 wasn't classified. And so Goldber's like, you call me a liar. No, 0:09:48.000 --> 0:09:50.240 I got to prove I'm not right. I don't what 0:09:50.400 --> 0:09:51.319 is strategy at all? 0:09:52.080 --> 0:09:54.960 Your method? You know, on cable news channels they would 0:09:54.960 --> 0:09:56.800 have continued to hammer it and look how incompetent they 0:09:56.800 --> 0:09:58.800 are and bought. But but nobody watches those channels, knowing 0:09:58.840 --> 0:10:01.720 no matter the over all how big a story this is, 0:10:01.760 --> 0:10:05.400 would have dwindled a ton if that. 0:10:05.360 --> 0:10:07.920 One sided tennis match, if you stop hitting the ball 0:10:08.000 --> 0:10:08.600 back to them. 0:10:08.720 --> 0:10:11.280 So here's the reality because of the way it was handled. 0:10:11.360 --> 0:10:13.880 Tulsi Gabbard. As we speak, I'm looking at the cable news. 0:10:15.000 --> 0:10:20.200 Today's the House version of the World Threats hearing that 0:10:20.240 --> 0:10:22.000 they have every year. So it was the Senate version 0:10:22.040 --> 0:10:24.559 yesterday it's a House Intelligence committee today. And are they 0:10:24.559 --> 0:10:28.000 talking about worldwide threats? No, they're talking about this signal 0:10:28.080 --> 0:10:30.200 chat thing and how it happened. And she's being questioned 0:10:30.360 --> 0:10:32.240 right there, it says, up there, I'm looking at Fox 0:10:32.520 --> 0:10:36.360 Intel chiefs testify as new chat details revealed. So they're 0:10:36.360 --> 0:10:39.200 hammering Tulsi Gabbard over this new stuff. Excuse me? This 0:10:39.240 --> 0:10:42.679 shear looks like war plans to me. So they could 0:10:42.720 --> 0:10:44.880 have ended this by just you know, this is truth 0:10:44.920 --> 0:10:46.840 through your whole life for everyone. We all know this. 0:10:47.800 --> 0:10:49.800 Maybe you figured out in childhood. Maybe you don't figure 0:10:49.800 --> 0:10:52.160 it out the lid. That's quicker. You just come clean 0:10:52.200 --> 0:10:54.440 and say I screwed up. Your life is so much 0:10:54.480 --> 0:10:55.679 better always. 0:10:56.880 --> 0:11:01.520 Or two, harken back to the nineteen What a fine 0:11:01.559 --> 0:11:06.800 and exciting time that was. Inflation was rampant, Nixon was impeached, 0:11:07.520 --> 0:11:11.160 Jerry Ford was walking into doorways and and something else happened. 0:11:11.160 --> 0:11:11.640 I don't remember. 0:11:11.920 --> 0:11:14.719 Just go rule the airwaves, disc go rule the air 0:11:14.840 --> 0:11:17.440 thank you. Uh No, it's not the crime, it's the 0:11:17.480 --> 0:11:22.280 cover up. It's the cover up that brings you down. Hey, 0:11:22.320 --> 0:11:27.120 we screwed up, embarrassed, We've fixed it. It's into the 0:11:27.160 --> 0:11:30.040 Atlantic and mister Goldberg, it's human nature on such an 0:11:30.120 --> 0:11:31.440 interesting level. And it's true. 0:11:31.720 --> 0:11:34.480 Like picturing kids, you can picture the government stuff or whatever. 0:11:35.000 --> 0:11:37.680 If your kid comes here and say, I just I 0:11:37.720 --> 0:11:40.040 don't I took the cookies and I shouldn't have, and 0:11:40.080 --> 0:11:42.360 I hate myself forward, I don't like eating that crab. 0:11:42.400 --> 0:11:45.320 It makes me feel bad. I'm trying to stop and 0:11:45.360 --> 0:11:47.040 I just but I saw him there, and I could say, 0:11:47.240 --> 0:11:50.040 you feel bad for him, You feel compassionate. If they 0:11:50.120 --> 0:11:52.679 say I didn't eat the cookies with crumbs around their lips, 0:11:52.880 --> 0:11:56.439 you feel like they're calling you stupid. Yes, I mean 0:11:56.480 --> 0:12:00.440 it for a liar. Yeah, uh goodness. 0:12:02.200 --> 0:12:05.600 If we screw this up, we don't get a chance 0:12:05.679 --> 0:12:10.080 to do the good stuff. That's why I call, you know, 0:12:10.520 --> 0:12:13.199 my own team for running a bad offense. 0:12:13.240 --> 0:12:16.719 To get back to the sports to metaphor, Yeah, so 0:12:16.880 --> 0:12:18.800 this has got at least one more day in it, 0:12:20.040 --> 0:12:22.439 and so I'm sure you're staying on top of the 0:12:22.480 --> 0:12:25.520 answers they're giving to Okay, now we see more of 0:12:25.559 --> 0:12:28.120 these are they are they claiming they're made up? Are 0:12:28.120 --> 0:12:30.440 they claiming they're not real? It would be your only 0:12:30.480 --> 0:12:33.280 home unless you're it's the only thing you could do. 0:12:33.920 --> 0:12:36.160 You know, I'm kind of disappointed in you, Jack, speaking 0:12:36.200 --> 0:12:38.439 of calling fouls that you haven't hit me with a single. 0:12:38.520 --> 0:12:42.200 So you wanted Kamla to win. And that's always such 0:12:42.200 --> 0:12:43.719 a fun part of these discussions. 0:12:44.679 --> 0:12:49.079 Oh my god, that is always good. We got a 0:12:49.080 --> 0:12:49.880 lot more news all the way. 0:12:49.920 --> 0:12:56.200 Stay here switching gears to some business news apples so 0:12:56.280 --> 0:12:59.000 that they're working on adding a camera to the Apple Watch. 0:12:59.440 --> 0:13:01.240 Yeah, out of commercial to say, look at this. 0:13:01.880 --> 0:13:05.360 For years, your iPhone camera has captured life's biggest moments, 0:13:05.600 --> 0:13:08.160 and now we've added a camera to your Apple Watch, 0:13:08.400 --> 0:13:12.040 so you can capture more new moments like your chin midsneed, 0:13:12.520 --> 0:13:14.920 the inside of your jacket sleeve, the ceiling of your 0:13:14.920 --> 0:13:17.600 dead is soften, an accidental close up of a stranger 0:13:17.679 --> 0:13:20.520 scratch at Starbucks, the Apple Watch with camera and the 0:13:20.520 --> 0:13:25.800 battery is dead. 0:13:25.920 --> 0:13:28.160 Oh you know, funny coincidence. 0:13:28.520 --> 0:13:31.560 Later this hour, I wanted to talk about I quit 0:13:31.640 --> 0:13:35.320 Google for Chat, GPT and other AI search and I'm 0:13:35.360 --> 0:13:36.040 not going back. 0:13:36.080 --> 0:13:39.240 This is the person who uses Apple device. Oh I 0:13:39.320 --> 0:13:45.280 might be on board with that. Goodbye Google boy. In 0:13:45.360 --> 0:13:48.400 mentioning that, so I talk a lot about the Apple Watch, 0:13:48.440 --> 0:13:50.079 I just I just love all the stuff I can 0:13:50.120 --> 0:13:51.880 do it. I have my car app on there, I 0:13:51.880 --> 0:13:54.920 have my bank stuff, I pay for everything app. I 0:13:54.920 --> 0:13:57.160 don't need a car. I don't really need anything in 0:13:57.200 --> 0:13:59.400 my pocket. I just just as long as I got 0:13:59.440 --> 0:14:01.800 my watch with But every I want to leave my 0:14:01.880 --> 0:14:04.400 phone behind more often, just so I don't look at it. 0:14:05.920 --> 0:14:07.760 But every time I leave it behind, it always turns 0:14:07.800 --> 0:14:09.640 out to be a mistake. We headed out the other day, 0:14:10.080 --> 0:14:12.000 we went on a bike ride downtown. I left my 0:14:12.040 --> 0:14:14.720 phone behind, and my my high schooler, said, you're going 0:14:14.760 --> 0:14:16.400 to regret it. I guarantee you're going to regret it, 0:14:16.400 --> 0:14:17.960 and I said, I don't think so. I think I'll 0:14:17.800 --> 0:14:21.360 be fine. Anyway, we get downtown, too tired to walk back. 0:14:21.680 --> 0:14:23.440 Want to get ano uber. I don't have my phone, 0:14:23.480 --> 0:14:25.440 so I can't get an uber or something else that 0:14:25.480 --> 0:14:27.280 happened I need my phone for I wanted to take 0:14:27.320 --> 0:14:29.240 a picture of something. Oh, that'd be cool. I get 0:14:29.320 --> 0:14:31.320 it's right. I don't know my phone just every time, 0:14:31.360 --> 0:14:35.120 and it's so frustrating to me. Oh that's how they 0:14:35.160 --> 0:14:39.360 get you. That is how they get you. Anyway, we 0:14:39.400 --> 0:14:42.280 got this text before we get to real news. Joe 0:14:42.360 --> 0:14:45.800 has mentioned over the years. This seems to be true. People. 0:14:46.120 --> 0:14:48.480 If people are going to refer to something we said, 0:14:48.520 --> 0:14:51.160 one of us said, it's they get it wrong like 0:14:51.240 --> 0:14:54.760 a hundred percent of the time. Yes, what's amazing. Why 0:14:56.000 --> 0:14:59.800 it doesn't matter at all at all, But it's just 0:15:00.000 --> 0:15:02.080 interesting that people always get it wrong. And I'm pretty 0:15:02.120 --> 0:15:04.760 sure this one is backwards. Can you please ask Joe. 0:15:04.840 --> 0:15:07.320 I think it was me to restate his strategy for 0:15:07.400 --> 0:15:12.080 winning hockey getting a morbidly obese goalie, big fat goalie. Oh, 0:15:12.120 --> 0:15:14.640 that's jack strategy. I thought of that just the other day. 0:15:14.880 --> 0:15:16.960 I came up. I thought about that years ago. I 0:15:16.960 --> 0:15:19.840 think it's when Manuel Eurebe was in the news all 0:15:19.880 --> 0:15:21.360 the time. He was the world's fattest man, a guy 0:15:21.400 --> 0:15:23.680 who lived in Mexico. He has since passed from being 0:15:23.720 --> 0:15:26.880 thirteen hundred pounds right over one thousand pounds. Yea, And 0:15:26.960 --> 0:15:31.360 I couldn't understand why a an NHL team wouldn't hire 0:15:32.000 --> 0:15:33.920 a twelve hundred pound guy to just sit in the 0:15:33.960 --> 0:15:35.680 goal and fill out the whole thing. I know it's 0:15:35.680 --> 0:15:37.320 because I saw a picture of him in his bed 0:15:37.560 --> 0:15:39.760 and he filled like an entire king sized bed. Put 0:15:39.800 --> 0:15:43.400 him in the goal with some pads, your shut out 0:15:43.480 --> 0:15:47.400 every opponent. Is there a reason this hasn't happened? It's 0:15:47.400 --> 0:15:50.800 a fit MacB. But yeah, you've been touting that for years. 0:15:51.160 --> 0:15:55.280 You'd be the world's greatest goalie. You'd make lots of money. Chick. 0:15:55.360 --> 0:15:57.280 I don't know, if chicks had throw themselves out, maybe, 0:15:57.320 --> 0:15:58.960 oh yeah, let's hang on. 0:16:00.040 --> 0:16:02.000 I don't know. I still think it's a pretty good idea. Well, 0:16:02.120 --> 0:16:03.120 you'd you'd. 0:16:02.920 --> 0:16:04.720 Make a lot of money until the other teams realized 0:16:04.720 --> 0:16:06.440 they could do the same thing, and then they would 0:16:06.440 --> 0:16:11.840 just I don't know, rule the grotesquely obese or Okay, 0:16:11.840 --> 0:16:13.680 we're into prison them and feed them. 0:16:13.920 --> 0:16:16.280 I don't know. We're into season two of all zero 0:16:16.440 --> 0:16:19.440 zero games because everybody's hired a big, bad goalie. We're 0:16:19.440 --> 0:16:23.080 gonna have to change a rule somehow away in for goalies. 0:16:23.200 --> 0:16:26.480 I don't know. Yes, I realize that's stupid, but I 0:16:26.600 --> 0:16:28.080 still haven't heard of work around. 0:16:30.640 --> 0:16:33.800 Okay that I'm completely distracted now I want to get 0:16:33.840 --> 0:16:34.640 into the hole. 0:16:34.960 --> 0:16:38.600 Is social Security a Ponzi scheme? Conversation? Which is a dumb, 0:16:38.840 --> 0:16:42.720 dumb conversation. I admit it has come up many times 0:16:42.760 --> 0:16:46.640 over the decades, so many mentions so security being a 0:16:46.680 --> 0:16:51.360 Ponzi scheme, and then the pushback and response is just 0:16:51.400 --> 0:16:54.760 so over the top, even though it resembles a Ponzi 0:16:54.800 --> 0:16:59.840 scheme in so many ways structurally, literally, absolutely so politically. 0:17:00.080 --> 0:17:02.240 Elon said it the other day. There was a fact 0:17:02.360 --> 0:17:04.959 check on him, and then a fact check with the 0:17:04.960 --> 0:17:07.679 definition of a Ponzi scheme. It came up in a 0:17:07.720 --> 0:17:10.960 hearing yesterday with Elizabeth Warren blah blah blah. Will play 0:17:11.000 --> 0:17:12.399 it all out for you coming up. I hope you 0:17:12.440 --> 0:17:17.240 can stick around, Armstrong and getty. 0:17:18.920 --> 0:17:22.760 Social Security is the biggest Ponzi scheme of all time. Basically, 0:17:22.800 --> 0:17:25.639 people are living way longer than expected. There are a 0:17:25.640 --> 0:17:27.840 few babies being born, so you have more people who 0:17:27.880 --> 0:17:31.719 are retired and that live for a long time and 0:17:31.800 --> 0:17:36.160 get retirement payments. So have a bad The financial situation 0:17:36.240 --> 0:17:38.359 is right now for the federal government. 0:17:38.400 --> 0:17:40.080 It will be much worse in the future. 0:17:40.520 --> 0:17:42.520 Do you believe that sold security is a Ponzi scheme? 0:17:43.200 --> 0:17:45.600 I believe it's a promise to pay. It's in eighty 0:17:45.760 --> 0:17:50.720 nine your institution, so far it will continue. 0:17:51.400 --> 0:17:53.160 Yes, or now do you think it's a Ponzi scheme? 0:17:54.080 --> 0:17:55.120 It's a promise to pay. 0:17:56.280 --> 0:17:59.880 So that's from a hearing yesterday with the Democrats grilling 0:18:00.080 --> 0:18:03.720 the Republican who runs the Social Security trying to get 0:18:03.800 --> 0:18:07.679 him to contradict to Elon Musk, who's you know, working 0:18:07.680 --> 0:18:10.480 with the president on trying to cut costs and deal 0:18:10.520 --> 0:18:13.520 with let's going bankrupt. Elon Musk said on Joe Rogan 0:18:13.760 --> 0:18:18.040 fairly recently, what you just heard that Social Security is 0:18:18.080 --> 0:18:21.639 upon this scheme. And I can't believe we're still having 0:18:21.640 --> 0:18:26.960 this conversation. I mean we probably first had it two 0:18:27.000 --> 0:18:29.760 thousand five. 0:18:30.400 --> 0:18:33.160 Hey, I'm sorry, that's twenty got to interrupted. I've got 0:18:33.200 --> 0:18:35.600 to interrupt you. Based on that clip. I'm just jotting 0:18:35.600 --> 0:18:39.200 this down from my personal notes from my memoir. March 0:18:39.359 --> 0:18:44.399 twenty six, ten thirty six a m. Eastern time was 0:18:44.440 --> 0:18:49.880 the moment I gave up on democracy. That exchange crushed 0:18:49.920 --> 0:18:52.440 my spirit for your memoir. 0:18:54.400 --> 0:18:56.119 Ah, good lord. 0:18:56.320 --> 0:18:59.280 So yeah, let's let's not talk about the structural problems 0:18:59.400 --> 0:19:01.840 or the challenge. Let's just try to catch each other 0:19:01.880 --> 0:19:04.320 and saying the thing we can embarrass each other over. 0:19:04.680 --> 0:19:05.479 Good lord. 0:19:05.720 --> 0:19:10.240 I know it's so sorry, Doctor Franklin, Sorry General Washington. 0:19:10.320 --> 0:19:15.040 We mucked it up. So I was listening to uh, 0:19:16.600 --> 0:19:20.959 some cable news hosts talking about George Bush taking on 0:19:21.000 --> 0:19:23.679 Social Security and what a dumb plan it was, and 0:19:23.680 --> 0:19:25.879 what a mistake it was political mistake, and they're just 0:19:25.880 --> 0:19:27.560 talking about the politics of it. If you want to 0:19:27.640 --> 0:19:33.879 just be very crass. Bottom line, all that matters is 0:19:33.880 --> 0:19:36.240 getting re elected. Yes, it is stupid to take on 0:19:36.359 --> 0:19:38.800 Social Security, and Trump knows that. That's why he always says, 0:19:39.000 --> 0:19:40.679 not going to touch it, not going to touch it. 0:19:41.119 --> 0:19:44.160 But if you want to live in reality at all, 0:19:44.800 --> 0:19:46.639 what George Bush planned to do, I think it was 0:19:46.680 --> 0:19:48.000 it was second term, so I think it was two 0:19:48.040 --> 0:19:51.879 thousand and five when he started talking about privatizing it 0:19:51.960 --> 0:19:53.840 and you could, you could take some of it and 0:19:53.920 --> 0:19:56.560 invest it and make you know, more money and theory 0:19:56.560 --> 0:19:59.199 in the stock market over time, almost guaranteed than the 0:19:59.720 --> 0:20:03.240 three person I think it grows in the government barely. 0:20:03.320 --> 0:20:05.360 If you'd if that had gotten through at the time, 0:20:05.520 --> 0:20:08.080 you'd be listening to the podcast on a yacht in 0:20:08.119 --> 0:20:11.679 the Mediterranean and not getting crusts of bread from the 0:20:11.680 --> 0:20:17.639 government every month. My retired friends, Oh. 0:20:16.400 --> 0:20:19.199 And he got killed and uh. And they referred to 0:20:19.200 --> 0:20:21.359 it as a Ponzi scheme back then, and just got killed. 0:20:21.440 --> 0:20:26.639 How dare you call FDR rescuing the working class calling 0:20:26.640 --> 0:20:29.000 it a Ponzi scheme? Bob blah. First, I suppose we 0:20:29.000 --> 0:20:31.080 should started here. How many of you know people that 0:20:31.119 --> 0:20:34.240 don't know what a Ponzi scheme is. It's like, uh, 0:20:34.400 --> 0:20:37.359 you know, if you're a selling water purifiers or tupperware 0:20:37.560 --> 0:20:39.280 or I don't know. There's all kinds of different things 0:20:39.280 --> 0:20:41.400 out there that are Ponzi schemes where. 0:20:42.800 --> 0:20:48.000 I actually the classic one is like the airplane thing 0:20:48.080 --> 0:20:50.280 that was hot for a cup of coffee in college, 0:20:50.359 --> 0:20:53.960 where you buy seats on the so called airplane, and 0:20:53.960 --> 0:20:56.080 then as it fills up, the people who are in 0:20:56.080 --> 0:20:58.160 the front of the plane become the co pilot and pilot. 0:20:58.320 --> 0:21:01.280 Then they get paid off, make a huge amount of 0:21:01.280 --> 0:21:04.600 money relative to their investment, and then as long as 0:21:04.760 --> 0:21:07.720 more people are coming in at the bottom, right, the 0:21:07.760 --> 0:21:09.359 people at the top get paid. 0:21:09.760 --> 0:21:11.760 Yeah, And there's a I had friends that got into 0:21:11.800 --> 0:21:14.760 the water purifier thing in the nineties or whatever, and 0:21:14.840 --> 0:21:17.600 it was classic Ponzi scheme, and they'd come hit you with, say, 0:21:17.640 --> 0:21:19.720 I'm making three hundred thousand dollars a month. You know 0:21:19.760 --> 0:21:22.679