1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:05,840 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome in everybody. 3 00:00:06,080 --> 00:00:10,039 Speaker 2: Wednesday edition of The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show 4 00:00:10,400 --> 00:00:14,840 Speaker 2: starts right now, and we have much to discuss, as 5 00:00:14,960 --> 00:00:18,680 Speaker 2: is often the case here, a lot of news breaking, 6 00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:19,759 Speaker 2: a lot of things happening. 7 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:23,680 Speaker 1: We've got the Trump trial in NYC. 8 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:27,720 Speaker 2: Jury selection fully underway, a number of jurors making it 9 00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:33,680 Speaker 2: through the early stages of the gauntlets that is jury selection. 10 00:00:34,159 --> 00:00:37,240 Speaker 2: We will discuss how a little bit the same way 11 00:00:37,360 --> 00:00:40,560 Speaker 2: that the Supreme Court. We're told there's a non partisan 12 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:47,080 Speaker 2: institution jury selection. A lot of people clearly have animus 13 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 2: against Trump, for example, and it seems some of them 14 00:00:51,080 --> 00:00:54,639 Speaker 2: are in this jury process trying to suggest that, oh, 15 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:57,960 Speaker 2: but I could still be impartial. Yeah, we'll discuss this 16 00:00:58,240 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 2: in detail. Trump also going up to the well a bodega, 17 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 2: which is like a small neighborhood grocery store New Yorkers 18 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:11,679 Speaker 2: all know, but for other folks across the country, bodega 19 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:15,480 Speaker 2: is not as common a thing. The isn't it isn't 20 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:18,080 Speaker 2: that the one also where I think I think doctor 21 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:20,119 Speaker 2: Jill Biden, And just so you're clear, we call her 22 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:21,080 Speaker 2: that sarcastically. 23 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:23,240 Speaker 1: Some of you write in and say she's not really 24 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:23,840 Speaker 1: a doctor. 25 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:28,560 Speaker 2: We know that's the point we like to be, you know, 26 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:31,520 Speaker 2: like doctor Jill Biden's getting called in by her pager 27 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:33,559 Speaker 2: on an episode of Graze and. 28 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 1: Had to me to save lives. 29 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:37,959 Speaker 2: She wrote a like a PhD dissertation that was absolute 30 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:40,800 Speaker 2: garbage for I think the University of Delaware or something 31 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:45,959 Speaker 2: on education. Uh so, yeah, anyway, but yes, doctor Jill Biden. 32 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:49,720 Speaker 2: I think she was the one who said but bodega 33 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:52,640 Speaker 2: or something. She couldn't she didn't know what a bodego was. 34 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 2: It's pretty funny, but this is about the bodega guy 35 00:01:55,760 --> 00:02:00,160 Speaker 2: who defended himself with a with a knife on video 36 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:03,200 Speaker 2: against an assailant who was much bigger, who cornered him 37 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:07,760 Speaker 2: and for no reason started just punching him, and he 38 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:09,640 Speaker 2: defended himself with a knife and the guy died, and 39 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:12,639 Speaker 2: he was charged with murder. If you remember Alvin Bragg, 40 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 2: we were outraged here on this show and said it 41 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:21,560 Speaker 2: at the time, and the pressure from people of New 42 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:24,079 Speaker 2: York and across the country who recognized what an outrage 43 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:27,760 Speaker 2: this is push Bragg to drop those charges. But Trump 44 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:32,639 Speaker 2: is going to visit that store proprietor go visit the 45 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 2: guy working at the bodega he went. And this is 46 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 2: highlighting I think a big difference between Democrats and Republicans 47 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 2: going into this election cycle. Also a lot of hubbub, 48 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:51,240 Speaker 2: a lot of stuff going on online around the salary 49 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:55,680 Speaker 2: that Caitlin Clark has the president or at least his staff. Again, 50 00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:58,799 Speaker 2: we know Joe Biden doesn't write his tweets, but it's 51 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:03,079 Speaker 2: on his behalf, right, So the White House apparatus put 52 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 2: out a tweet upset about how much money Caitlin Clark, 53 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:12,360 Speaker 2: the NCAA female basketball superstar, how much she is going 54 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:16,640 Speaker 2: to make. It is by professional athletic standards, not a 55 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:20,880 Speaker 2: lot of money. And there's the Biden White House is 56 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 2: saying this is unfair because Joe Biden neither knows nor 57 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:29,680 Speaker 2: understands the first thing about running a business, economic supply 58 00:03:29,720 --> 00:03:33,079 Speaker 2: and demand, anything like that. So we will definitely want 59 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:37,520 Speaker 2: to dive into some of that because it's well, it 60 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 2: just shows that one side here lives in reality and 61 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 2: the other side lives in a delusion. And then we've 62 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 2: got this is the big one for me today. You know, 63 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 2: Clay and I were going back and forth on this 64 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 2: one on air, just talking about because he was he 65 00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:59,000 Speaker 2: started bringing to my attention that tweets around NPR's new chief, 66 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 2: the chief Commissar of np R. And the thing about 67 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:11,360 Speaker 2: it is, when you look at her tweets, it's very 68 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:16,359 Speaker 2: apparent that everything that you think is true of the 69 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:19,240 Speaker 2: head of NPR is in fact true of the head 70 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:24,600 Speaker 2: of NPR. And Uri Yuri Yuri I think right, Uri 71 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:28,880 Speaker 2: Yuri Uri Berliner, who is the guy who is an 72 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:31,200 Speaker 2: MPR editor who said, hey, hold on a second, there 73 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:37,040 Speaker 2: are eighty seven editors in the newsroom, and not a 74 00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 2: single one of them is a Republican. Every one of 75 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 2: them is a registered Democrat. That can't be a journalistic 76 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:49,880 Speaker 2: enterprise of any seriousness. Clay he has resigned. I have 77 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:53,960 Speaker 2: his real quick here's his resignation letter sent to Katherine 78 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:55,400 Speaker 2: Maher who We're going to have some fun with you 79 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:58,400 Speaker 2: in a second. I'm resigning from NPR, great American institution 80 00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:01,719 Speaker 2: where I've worked for twenty five five years. I don't 81 00:05:01,760 --> 00:05:05,360 Speaker 2: support calls to defund NPR. Well, too bad. I respect 82 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:08,080 Speaker 2: the integrity of my colleagues and wish for ENDPR to 83 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 2: thrive and do important journalism but I cannot work in 84 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:14,680 Speaker 2: a newsroom where I am disparaged by a new CEO 85 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:20,280 Speaker 2: whose divisive views confirm the very problems at NPR. In 86 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:24,200 Speaker 2: my free press essay, Clay, is this a shockwave through 87 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:27,400 Speaker 2: the communist media? Well, we will, we will dive into it, 88 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:31,279 Speaker 2: you know. In that regard. First, I gotta say, look 89 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 2: at some of the tweets from oh we have better 90 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:37,960 Speaker 2: than tweets. We have Katherine Maher I suppose no relation 91 00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:43,360 Speaker 2: to Bill Maher, same spelling of the last name. We 92 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:46,600 Speaker 2: have Katherine Maher here, the new NPR CEO. I think 93 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:49,480 Speaker 2: she just took over in January of this year, so 94 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:53,920 Speaker 2: it's new. The kind of things that you think, without 95 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:58,280 Speaker 2: even knowing an NPR boss would say, she is like 96 00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 2: made in a lab by communists. It's amazing when you 97 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:06,840 Speaker 2: actually hear her view of things. For example, she's one 98 00:06:06,839 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 2: of these individuals who works in journalism and you really 99 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:14,920 Speaker 2: have to put the scare quotes. The scare quotes must 100 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:17,800 Speaker 2: be there. She's one of these people who works in 101 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 2: journalism but thinks that the First Amendment is an impediment 102 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 2: to the real mission. And you say, well, hold on 103 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:30,240 Speaker 2: a second, how can freedom of expression and free speech 104 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:34,600 Speaker 2: be a challenge to journalism. The only way is if 105 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:38,560 Speaker 2: journalism is actually propaganda, is if you're taking a partisan 106 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 2: point of view in order to bring about a certain 107 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:47,360 Speaker 2: conclusion in the mind of the audience. Hmmm. Catherine Maher 108 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:50,640 Speaker 2: Back in twenty twenty one June of twenty twenty one, 109 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:53,960 Speaker 2: during the pandemic, she was CEO of Wikimedia. So I 110 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:57,720 Speaker 2: think she was running Wikipedia like that falls under And 111 00:06:57,839 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 2: let me tell you Wikipedia, just like Twitter was before 112 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:08,080 Speaker 2: Elon bought it, It is a communist enclave. They absolutely 113 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:13,360 Speaker 2: control Wikipedia. There's so much bias, all kinds of things 114 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:16,520 Speaker 2: going on there that you know, people should be very 115 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:19,640 Speaker 2: cognizant of. Whenever you do a Wikipedia search, I should 116 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:22,200 Speaker 2: also be very cognizant. Ginger has found her way into 117 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:24,320 Speaker 2: the studio and while I am doing a live radio 118 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:27,280 Speaker 2: show for millions of people, is dropping her favorite chew 119 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:29,400 Speaker 2: toy on my feet and saying you must throw this. 120 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 2: So if you're watching the video wondering why the chew 121 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 2: toy is being thrown, there you go. Catherine mar twenty 122 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:38,000 Speaker 2: twenty one June. This is what she said when she 123 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:39,360 Speaker 2: was running Wikimedia. 124 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 1: Play it. 125 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:44,480 Speaker 3: We took a very active approach to disinformation and misinformation 126 00:07:44,920 --> 00:07:47,200 Speaker 3: coming into the not just the last selection, but also 127 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 3: looking at how we supported our editing community in an 128 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:53,240 Speaker 3: unprecedented moment where we were not only dealing with the 129 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:56,120 Speaker 3: global pandemic, we were dealing with a novel virus, which is 130 00:07:56,120 --> 00:07:59,119 Speaker 3: by definition means we knew nothing about it in real time, 131 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:02,560 Speaker 3: trying to figure it out as the pandemic went along. 132 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:06,760 Speaker 3: And so we really set up in response to both 133 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:09,120 Speaker 3: the pandemic but also in response to the upcoming US 134 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:12,560 Speaker 3: election and as a model for future elections outside of 135 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 3: the US, including a number that are happening in this year. 136 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 3: The model was around how do we create sort of 137 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:21,080 Speaker 3: a clearing house of information that brings the institution of 138 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:24,160 Speaker 3: the Wikimedia Foundation with the editing community in order to 139 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 3: be able to identify threats early on through conversations with 140 00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:32,680 Speaker 3: government of course, as well as other platform operators, to 141 00:08:32,720 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 3: understand sort of what the landscape looks like. 142 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 2: That's a lot of jargon to say we were coordinating 143 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:43,600 Speaker 2: with the Biden administration to decide what could be said 144 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:48,359 Speaker 2: on Wikipedia and through Wikimedia about the pandemic. 145 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:51,920 Speaker 1: That is state media. Now. 146 00:08:51,960 --> 00:08:54,560 Speaker 2: This is also interesting because NPR likes to have it 147 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:58,360 Speaker 2: both ways. Oh, we're just like honest journalists, man, like, 148 00:08:58,400 --> 00:09:03,000 Speaker 2: we just care about the truth journalism. And yet they 149 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:05,560 Speaker 2: take money from the federal government. I believe state governments 150 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:08,960 Speaker 2: also give money to NPR. And when people like me 151 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:12,160 Speaker 2: point this out, and conservatives have been saying this for years, 152 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:16,439 Speaker 2: you know, we don't get any state money, right, I 153 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:18,360 Speaker 2: mean I said to Clay, I said, look, you know, 154 00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:20,080 Speaker 2: if the federal government wants to give us five or 155 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:22,199 Speaker 2: ten million bucks, I'd say, hey, you know, I mean, 156 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 2: we wouldn't take it. 157 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:23,480 Speaker 1: I'm just kidding. 158 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:25,679 Speaker 2: Well, we'd think about it, but we probably wouldn't take it. 159 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 2: Why would you have state funding of this? It's absurd 160 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:33,600 Speaker 2: on its face, it makes no sense. And then they say, well, 161 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:36,960 Speaker 2: it's only federal government one percent of our budget or something, 162 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:38,199 Speaker 2: to which I say, great. 163 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:40,120 Speaker 1: Then you don't need it. 164 00:09:40,120 --> 00:09:43,600 Speaker 2: It can't be we don't need the funding, but don't 165 00:09:43,679 --> 00:09:47,360 Speaker 2: take away our funding. But that's the game that NPR plays. 166 00:09:48,040 --> 00:09:51,080 Speaker 2: Oh no, it's not like we're relying on state funds. 167 00:09:51,920 --> 00:09:53,760 Speaker 2: But if you take it away from us, you're destroying 168 00:09:53,920 --> 00:09:58,359 Speaker 2: like access to information for you know, one hundred million Americans. 169 00:09:58,040 --> 00:09:59,439 Speaker 1: Or whatever it is. They say that listens to it 170 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:00,559 Speaker 1: or has acces to it. 171 00:10:01,559 --> 00:10:08,040 Speaker 2: But back to the point here, why is this a 172 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:10,440 Speaker 2: moment that I think is getting so much attention from 173 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:13,360 Speaker 2: emberby One? You have an NPR the guy worked there 174 00:10:13,400 --> 00:10:16,120 Speaker 2: for decades, So it's not like what you get on 175 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 2: the left. Sometimes on the left you'll have some infiltrator, 176 00:10:21,160 --> 00:10:23,120 Speaker 2: you know, get somebody who's like, oh, like I managed 177 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:24,880 Speaker 2: to get a job at Fox News. I worked there 178 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:27,960 Speaker 2: for two months, and it's propaganda. I mean, no, no, 179 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:32,400 Speaker 2: this is a guy. Uri Berliner is a guy who 180 00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:37,520 Speaker 2: was drinking the kool aid for a long time. I mean, 181 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:40,360 Speaker 2: it's not like NPR just went woke. It is the 182 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:43,880 Speaker 2: most woke. In fact, it's so woke that when someone 183 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:46,880 Speaker 2: tells me in real life that they're an NPR listener, 184 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:49,120 Speaker 2: I'm actually somewhat curious to hear what they have to say, 185 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:51,480 Speaker 2: Like I want to know, you know, if they listen 186 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:53,520 Speaker 2: to CNN, I know it's just all I hate Trump. 187 00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:54,559 Speaker 1: But if they listen to. 188 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:57,120 Speaker 2: NPR, they're just like, yeah, we just need to get 189 00:10:57,200 --> 00:11:00,480 Speaker 2: rid of gender entirely, and we just need a global government, 190 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:03,280 Speaker 2: and we all need to get rid of capitalism. And 191 00:11:03,280 --> 00:11:05,760 Speaker 2: he's just like, wait, what like they're they're on this 192 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 2: whole other level of delusion and separation from from reality. 193 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:16,240 Speaker 2: And we have more by the way of Catherine Moore again, 194 00:11:16,280 --> 00:11:22,800 Speaker 2: the First Amendment is the foundation upon which really all 195 00:11:22,840 --> 00:11:26,319 Speaker 2: American rights are built. Right, if you cannot speak, and 196 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:28,080 Speaker 2: that's why the whole thing when Clay and I were 197 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:31,040 Speaker 2: talking about the trial in New York and there was 198 00:11:31,080 --> 00:11:33,439 Speaker 2: that you know that imbecile swallwell. 199 00:11:33,280 --> 00:11:34,880 Speaker 1: Oh, you can't say that, Clay. 200 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:38,800 Speaker 2: When that was going on, I remember thinking, if you 201 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:41,240 Speaker 2: can't talk about a trial, and what's justin unjust? We 202 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:44,840 Speaker 2: do we by definition, do not live in a free society. 203 00:11:45,880 --> 00:11:49,800 Speaker 2: And when the people who are supposed to be the 204 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:55,720 Speaker 2: most stalwart defendant, defenders of defendant trial, defenders of the 205 00:11:55,720 --> 00:12:00,240 Speaker 2: First Amendment, when they are on the other side, it's 206 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:02,840 Speaker 2: not even that they refuse to do their job. They 207 00:12:02,920 --> 00:12:07,880 Speaker 2: have joined the enemies of the First Amendment. They are 208 00:12:08,040 --> 00:12:12,200 Speaker 2: part of the censorship apparatus. They are going above and 209 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:16,440 Speaker 2: beyond to silence people who disagree with them or who 210 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:22,240 Speaker 2: just refuse to carry the water of the communist democrat 211 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:25,160 Speaker 2: left in this country. When you reach that point, you 212 00:12:25,240 --> 00:12:29,280 Speaker 2: see that we're actually at a dangerous moment in time 213 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:31,840 Speaker 2: for our most basic freedoms. I'm going to get into 214 00:12:31,880 --> 00:12:34,640 Speaker 2: more of this Catherine mar lady in a sect, because 215 00:12:34,640 --> 00:12:40,400 Speaker 2: she's amazing. I'm telling you, she is the perfect NPR CEO, 216 00:12:40,679 --> 00:12:43,560 Speaker 2: all of her positions. I've got her tweets here and 217 00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:45,319 Speaker 2: what you need to know. If you're saying, oh, buck, 218 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:46,920 Speaker 2: I don't even listen to NPR, I don't even care. 219 00:12:47,880 --> 00:12:55,040 Speaker 2: Her mentality is reflected in the executive suites of every 220 00:12:55,160 --> 00:13:00,600 Speaker 2: major newspaper and news organization that is not explicitly right 221 00:13:00,640 --> 00:13:08,239 Speaker 2: of center in America, and every editorial room, every newsroom 222 00:13:08,320 --> 00:13:12,080 Speaker 2: for a for a publication that would not be identified 223 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:15,960 Speaker 2: by the left as conservative. So right, whether whether you 224 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:18,440 Speaker 2: would say the Wall Street Journal is conservative or not. 225 00:13:18,640 --> 00:13:21,560 Speaker 2: Guess what the left thinks. It's very conservative. I think 226 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:22,560 Speaker 2: it's ultra right wing. 227 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:24,679 Speaker 1: They're crazy. 228 00:13:24,760 --> 00:13:30,160 Speaker 2: This is an exploration of the mindset of the censorious, 229 00:13:30,400 --> 00:13:34,840 Speaker 2: totalitarian left, and that's why I think it's so fascinating. 230 00:13:34,880 --> 00:13:39,400 Speaker 2: But also I mentioned the Uri Berliner guy. It's too 231 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:41,960 Speaker 2: much for him after twenty years. If you've been working 232 00:13:42,040 --> 00:13:46,040 Speaker 2: at NPR for twenty years, how crazy must NPR be 233 00:13:46,280 --> 00:13:49,439 Speaker 2: for you to finally say, for twenty years I was 234 00:13:49,480 --> 00:13:51,880 Speaker 2: okay with these commies, but now they've gone too far, 235 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:55,559 Speaker 2: you know, in a sense, he shows what I've been 236 00:13:55,559 --> 00:13:59,400 Speaker 2: saying now for over a decade. The acceleration of the 237 00:13:59,480 --> 00:14:03,360 Speaker 2: lunis from the left is very real, and it's happening 238 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:06,600 Speaker 2: all the time. This is not the same Democrat party 239 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:09,920 Speaker 2: it was ten or twenty years ago. It's certainly not 240 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:12,439 Speaker 2: the same media that it was. So we'll discuss and 241 00:14:12,480 --> 00:14:14,520 Speaker 2: if any of you have any funny NPR anecdotes, I 242 00:14:14,520 --> 00:14:16,240 Speaker 2: would love to hear them, or just you know, if 243 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:19,480 Speaker 2: you've listened to NPR recently and you found yourself, if 244 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:21,840 Speaker 2: you're in the car and you're looking for Clay and 245 00:14:21,880 --> 00:14:24,000 Speaker 2: Buck on the AM, and all of a sudden you 246 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:28,080 Speaker 2: find yourself listening to NPR, it's like an assault on 247 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:30,560 Speaker 2: your ear drums all of a sudden. But I know 248 00:14:30,680 --> 00:14:32,880 Speaker 2: it can be very melodic sounding. It's like, oh, well, 249 00:14:32,880 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 2: today we're talking about the best way to make a 250 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:38,320 Speaker 2: summer salad. You know, I know, I know they sneak 251 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:40,680 Speaker 2: that stuff in there. Eight hundred two A two two 252 00:14:40,680 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 2: eight a two. You know, we get to the truth 253 00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:44,800 Speaker 2: on a whole range of topics here every day on 254 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:47,280 Speaker 2: this program. And that's the mission that Clay and I have. 255 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:50,560 Speaker 2: But that's also the mission that our friend Mark Chakin 256 00:14:50,720 --> 00:14:54,000 Speaker 2: has when he covers US stocks. He wants to cut 257 00:14:54,040 --> 00:14:57,120 Speaker 2: through the noise and the nonsense. He's not looking to 258 00:14:57,960 --> 00:15:01,800 Speaker 2: follow the herd. 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By the way 278 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:12,440 Speaker 1: we're efforting Andy McCarthy, you can imagine that this is 279 00:16:12,520 --> 00:16:15,840 Speaker 1: kind of a busy time for Andy, although he can't 280 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:18,000 Speaker 1: cite the Mets as an excuse for where he is 281 00:16:18,080 --> 00:16:22,000 Speaker 1: right now. I don't think but the uh John Tay 282 00:16:22,040 --> 00:16:24,680 Speaker 1: Porter is an NBA player who was just banned for 283 00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:28,200 Speaker 1: life for betting on the NBA, And I just tweeted, 284 00:16:29,240 --> 00:16:31,000 Speaker 1: is he banned from the w n B A two 285 00:16:31,880 --> 00:16:34,640 Speaker 1: or could he decide now that he's a w n 286 00:16:34,680 --> 00:16:38,560 Speaker 1: B A player, the greatest women's college basketball and women's 287 00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:43,800 Speaker 1: women's basketball player of all time, and he'd be a 288 00:16:43,840 --> 00:16:47,040 Speaker 1: hero of the left, because there's nothing braver than deciding 289 00:16:47,120 --> 00:16:50,560 Speaker 1: you aren't the gender that you actually are. And as 290 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:54,800 Speaker 1: we're efforting uh Andy, did you see this tweet that 291 00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:59,040 Speaker 1: that that came out about me? Buck? Even even me 292 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:02,280 Speaker 1: who was used to this is a story, Even me 293 00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:05,320 Speaker 1: who is used to people saying all sorts of crazy 294 00:17:05,359 --> 00:17:09,439 Speaker 1: things about me, This story I saw and I just 295 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:12,119 Speaker 1: thought to myself, this is really kind of part and 296 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:14,240 Speaker 1: parcel for where we are. They're angry at me, still 297 00:17:14,320 --> 00:17:19,040 Speaker 1: over saying that Trump should not be convicted, and this 298 00:17:19,320 --> 00:17:23,960 Speaker 1: is this is pretty uh, this is pretty wild. The 299 00:17:24,119 --> 00:17:29,080 Speaker 1: idea that you would decide this is from a website. 300 00:17:29,119 --> 00:17:34,320 Speaker 1: The headline is anti gay sportswriter's rage tweet about should 301 00:17:34,359 --> 00:17:37,760 Speaker 1: you see this book about Trump's hush money trial could 302 00:17:37,880 --> 00:17:41,000 Speaker 1: cost him his law license? And here's the opening paragraph 303 00:17:41,040 --> 00:17:45,359 Speaker 1: of the article. That's the headline. Homophobic sports writer Clay 304 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:49,280 Speaker 1: Travis couldn't resist the urge to insert himself into Donald 305 00:17:49,320 --> 00:17:53,280 Speaker 1: Trump's felony hush money trial. Travis founder of the right 306 00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:58,200 Speaker 1: wing rage site OutKick. Have you ever heard me say 307 00:17:58,240 --> 00:17:59,840 Speaker 1: anything anti gay? And I just want to if I 308 00:17:59,840 --> 00:18:01,960 Speaker 1: had have. I want to make it clear that I 309 00:18:02,040 --> 00:18:06,200 Speaker 1: love lesbians, particularly good looking lesbians, very fond of their work, 310 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:08,000 Speaker 1: and so I want to make it clear that I 311 00:18:08,040 --> 00:18:12,240 Speaker 1: love all gay people. But that's a headline, like I 312 00:18:12,359 --> 00:18:16,280 Speaker 1: said that Trump shouldn't be convicted, and suddenly I'm a 313 00:18:16,280 --> 00:18:19,080 Speaker 1: homophobic bigot according to the headlines. I don't even what's 314 00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:22,280 Speaker 1: the connection here, other than leftists decide how to attack you. 315 00:18:22,760 --> 00:18:24,840 Speaker 2: I thought about this because, first of all, I'm just 316 00:18:24,840 --> 00:18:27,080 Speaker 2: gonna tell you from when I was in New York 317 00:18:27,119 --> 00:18:28,960 Speaker 2: and also down here in South Beach. We are very 318 00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:31,959 Speaker 2: popular with the gays, okay, just for you know, they 319 00:18:32,280 --> 00:18:35,000 Speaker 2: love us. We get along great. That's not like Trump now, 320 00:18:35,119 --> 00:18:39,080 Speaker 2: great relations. We have a lot. We have a lot 321 00:18:39,119 --> 00:18:41,560 Speaker 2: of stalwart gay Some of them could call in now 322 00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:43,040 Speaker 2: and just sort of give us a high five. A 323 00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:46,080 Speaker 2: lot of stalwart gay and lesbian listeners. 324 00:18:46,440 --> 00:18:47,000 Speaker 1: Here's what. 325 00:18:48,760 --> 00:18:51,560 Speaker 2: Here's what they do, though, or rather the people attacking 326 00:18:51,560 --> 00:18:56,720 Speaker 2: you what they're doing. They like to use questioning trans 327 00:18:57,440 --> 00:19:00,480 Speaker 2: as anti gay. These are not the same thing at all, 328 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:03,800 Speaker 2: and not even not even remotely the same thing, but 329 00:19:03,840 --> 00:19:07,399 Speaker 2: they try to create this. That's why the smashing together 330 00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:13,000 Speaker 2: of all the letters right occur, LGPDQ, I A plus 331 00:19:13,119 --> 00:19:16,320 Speaker 2: right if you What they try to do is say, 332 00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:19,320 Speaker 2: this is a very clear tactic of the left. If 333 00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:23,400 Speaker 2: you have any issue with any policy relating to any 334 00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:27,000 Speaker 2: of the the alphabet group, yes, you are opposed to 335 00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:30,879 Speaker 2: the entire alphabet group, which is which is a complete slander. 336 00:19:31,119 --> 00:19:32,960 Speaker 2: But you see what I mean. That's that's the game 337 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:36,879 Speaker 2: that's played. So because you question, you know and I 338 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:39,960 Speaker 2: do too, obviously, and not just question. I disagree with 339 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:43,199 Speaker 2: the policy around men competing against women in athletics. They 340 00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:46,400 Speaker 2: think this is crazy. It's crazy, yes, because we disagree 341 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:49,639 Speaker 2: with that so strongly. They go, oh, well, you must 342 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:52,760 Speaker 2: be anti gay as well, and it's like, no, these 343 00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:57,000 Speaker 2: are These are completely different things, and that is a 344 00:19:57,240 --> 00:20:01,880 Speaker 2: dishonest slander meant to attack some buddy who, to your point, 345 00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:04,480 Speaker 2: find anything you or I have ever said that could 346 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:06,480 Speaker 2: be classified as gay. 347 00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:11,200 Speaker 1: We bring in now Andy McCarthy, who is I bet 348 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:15,160 Speaker 1: doing more media than he's ever done in his entire life. Andy, 349 00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:18,960 Speaker 1: we got seven jurors seated so far. How would you 350 00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:21,880 Speaker 1: assess the way this trial is going right now? Has 351 00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:25,480 Speaker 1: anything surprised you? Where are we from your perspective? 352 00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:30,320 Speaker 5: The pace the jury selection has really surprised me because 353 00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:34,560 Speaker 5: you mentioned media when we were doing it on Monday, 354 00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:37,240 Speaker 5: I guess you know, I tried to warn people ahead 355 00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:40,560 Speaker 5: of time that nothing really happens during jury selection. It 356 00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:43,480 Speaker 5: was you know, obviously it's historic that it's the first 357 00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:47,600 Speaker 5: formal day of the trial against the first former president 358 00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:51,600 Speaker 5: who happens to be the de facto Republican nominee. But 359 00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:55,320 Speaker 5: nothing much was going to happen, and nothing seemed to 360 00:20:55,320 --> 00:20:57,680 Speaker 5: happen the first day a few rulings that were interesting, 361 00:20:57,760 --> 00:21:02,880 Speaker 5: but beyond that not much. And the estimates play were 362 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:06,840 Speaker 5: that they thought it might take until early May, yeah, 363 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:09,600 Speaker 5: get a jury because of a glacial pace of Monday. 364 00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:13,119 Speaker 5: But then the thing picked up like a rocket Tuesday, 365 00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:16,920 Speaker 5: and you know, they could they could have a setback tomorrow. 366 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:19,280 Speaker 5: But the you know, to the extent the judge that 367 00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:22,480 Speaker 5: he may have a jury fully selected by Friday. That's 368 00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:23,520 Speaker 5: entirely possible. 369 00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:26,960 Speaker 2: Any thanks for being with us. You know we're gonna 370 00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:28,320 Speaker 2: have to keep you for another segment. We have too 371 00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:31,600 Speaker 2: many questions, so just get ready for that. But one 372 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:33,800 Speaker 2: thing that we've been wondering about, or I've been I've 373 00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:38,120 Speaker 2: been wondering about, particularly this whole notion of a an 374 00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:41,439 Speaker 2: impartial jury for Trump in New York City on this case, 375 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:45,080 Speaker 2: it seems to me, like I understand, you know, you 376 00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:47,879 Speaker 2: go to trial with the justice system you have, and 377 00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:49,120 Speaker 2: you know, it's kind of like you go to war 378 00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:50,919 Speaker 2: with the army you have. This is what we got 379 00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:53,520 Speaker 2: is trial by jury system, and in general it's very 380 00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:55,960 Speaker 2: very good. But to me it just seems like a farce. 381 00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:59,159 Speaker 2: I mean, some of the people that are already it 382 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:03,360 Speaker 2: seems have been in can tension are obviously anti Trump, Like, 383 00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:05,520 Speaker 2: how do we get is that just baked in at 384 00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:05,960 Speaker 2: this point? 385 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:10,880 Speaker 5: Well, you know, the thing is that you're not. The 386 00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:13,959 Speaker 5: idea is not to get people who all like Trump, 387 00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:19,320 Speaker 5: or who all like Bragg for that matter, because there's 388 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:22,359 Speaker 5: a lot of resentment against Bragg and Manhattan too. The 389 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:26,880 Speaker 5: thing to remember about all this is that the people 390 00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:32,720 Speaker 5: the movement progressives who vote in elections like the one 391 00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:37,320 Speaker 5: where Bragg was elected, that's a vanishingly small number of 392 00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:41,360 Speaker 5: people in Manhattan, and you know, they're very motivated, so 393 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:45,640 Speaker 5: they kind of punch above their weight. Trump is apt 394 00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:48,640 Speaker 5: to find a number of really good jurors in Manhattan. 395 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:52,480 Speaker 5: I liked trying cases in Manhattan. Now, you know, that 396 00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:55,639 Speaker 5: was twenty years ago and we were Federals, so we 397 00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:57,760 Speaker 5: were drawing from the Bronx in West Yester too, But 398 00:22:57,800 --> 00:22:59,080 Speaker 5: we had a lot of Manhattan jurors. 399 00:22:59,119 --> 00:22:59,800 Speaker 4: I thought they were good. 400 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:05,480 Speaker 5: Earth The process is supposed to lend itself to a 401 00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:09,879 Speaker 5: pretty searching examination of these jurors, so you can make 402 00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:13,480 Speaker 5: a discriminating choice about them. There's a lot of latitude 403 00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:17,840 Speaker 5: to move to remove people by choice. I have a 404 00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:21,480 Speaker 5: bye for cause rather I haven't heard too much complaining 405 00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:24,399 Speaker 5: that they wanted people removed from cause with the judge 406 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:28,679 Speaker 5: refused to remove, which is part of why it's going faster. 407 00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:30,680 Speaker 5: I think. I think they got rid of a lot 408 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:34,960 Speaker 5: of cause objections the first day and one big fell swoop. 409 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:40,800 Speaker 5: But also remember, in terms of balance, even though if 410 00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:44,240 Speaker 5: you even if you accept as a premise that Manhattan 411 00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:47,840 Speaker 5: is cut against Trump, which which it clearly is, Trump 412 00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:52,200 Speaker 5: only needs one, you know to win here, Bragg needs twelve. 413 00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:55,680 Speaker 5: And that's a big difference when you have a case 414 00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:58,000 Speaker 5: like b like Bragg has, which is a kind of 415 00:23:58,000 --> 00:23:59,760 Speaker 5: a dog's breakfast of a case. 416 00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:03,040 Speaker 1: When we come back, I want to ask you this question, Andy, 417 00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:06,640 Speaker 1: what would happen if Trump were convicted? What's the process 418 00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:08,520 Speaker 1: that would play out? Thank you for joining us. You 419 00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:09,919 Speaker 1: good to come back for one more segment? 420 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:12,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, of course, great. Yeah, let's get into neck like us. 421 00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:15,120 Speaker 2: You know, are they going to lock him up if 422 00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:17,160 Speaker 2: they can? Is really what we want to dive into 423 00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:18,960 Speaker 2: and what would that look like and how would this 424 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:22,560 Speaker 2: all work? What the process is? But first up, I 425 00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:24,880 Speaker 2: want to remind everybody about the incredible work being done 426 00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:27,760 Speaker 2: by the Preborn network of clinics they saved this past 427 00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:33,120 Speaker 2: year fifty eight thousand tiny babies lives. 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We have to do a lot. 453 00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:51,600 Speaker 2: I know there's fights in the legal realm right now, 454 00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:54,000 Speaker 2: but we have to do what weeken culturally as a 455 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:58,359 Speaker 2: community of life, to support life wherever we can. Please 456 00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:01,720 Speaker 2: dial pound two five zero from your phone and say 457 00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:05,440 Speaker 2: the keyword baby. That's pound two five zero, say baby, 458 00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:09,720 Speaker 2: or visit preborn dot com slash buck that's preborn dot 459 00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:21,720 Speaker 2: com slash bucek sponsored by Preborn. All right, Andy, let's 460 00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:23,560 Speaker 2: dive right, And if we're speaking to Andy McCarthy of 461 00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:27,000 Speaker 2: National Review and Fox News twenty plus years Southern District 462 00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:32,440 Speaker 2: of New York prosecutor. Andy, if they find Trump guilty, 463 00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:35,919 Speaker 2: what do you think happens? I mean, give us the 464 00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:38,440 Speaker 2: timeline and the possible punishments. 465 00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:42,280 Speaker 5: Well, allowing that things are moving a little faster than 466 00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:44,880 Speaker 5: we thought, and we'll see if that continues. Let's say 467 00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:51,320 Speaker 5: the trial goes into mid to late May, maybe early June. 468 00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:54,560 Speaker 5: If he were to get convicted, I think it matters 469 00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:56,199 Speaker 5: a lot what he gets convicted of, and we can 470 00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:58,600 Speaker 5: come back around and talk about that. But let's assume 471 00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:00,760 Speaker 5: for arguments, say he gets convict could have one or 472 00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:05,359 Speaker 5: more selonies in the indictment, which are all the charges 473 00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:11,040 Speaker 5: of felonies in the indictment. He would have a maximum sentences. 474 00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:14,879 Speaker 5: I understand the way New York groups statutory counts of 475 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:20,600 Speaker 5: four years, and sentencing is normally about three months after 476 00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:26,480 Speaker 5: a conviction. This is a non violent crime. He's a 477 00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:30,639 Speaker 5: first sender in New York. He should not get a 478 00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:33,960 Speaker 5: sentence of incarceration. But you know, if you had asked 479 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:38,320 Speaker 5: me about Alan Weifelberg, who Bragg has prosecuted twice in 480 00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:39,879 Speaker 5: the last two years, I would have told you he 481 00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:42,520 Speaker 5: shouldn't get one either. And they have him in now 482 00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:45,520 Speaker 5: where I think his second five months stint at rikers. 483 00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:48,080 Speaker 5: So there'll be a lot of pressure from the left, 484 00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:52,800 Speaker 5: which certainly Brag and the judge seemed to be very 485 00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:57,359 Speaker 5: keen to to put him in prison for some period 486 00:27:57,400 --> 00:28:02,160 Speaker 5: of time. I think Trump will be able to delay that, 487 00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:05,080 Speaker 5: and my understanding is the way New York appellate law 488 00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:09,440 Speaker 5: works is that once he appeals, the sentence can be 489 00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:12,320 Speaker 5: you know, any sentence imposed can be frozen until the 490 00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:13,040 Speaker 5: appeal's done. 491 00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:16,520 Speaker 1: And the appeal would take well after the election. 492 00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:19,480 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, be into next year for sure. 493 00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:23,000 Speaker 1: And honestly, Andy, this is a crazy question. But given 494 00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:27,280 Speaker 1: it's a state charge, he doesn't if he got elected president, 495 00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:31,040 Speaker 1: how do state charges that have already and I don't 496 00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:33,320 Speaker 1: know what the president would be here because there's truly 497 00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:38,160 Speaker 1: never been one. How does state criminal charges apply to 498 00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:42,040 Speaker 1: a president of the United States if it was a 499 00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:44,479 Speaker 1: conviction that occurred prior to his election. 500 00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:48,760 Speaker 5: As you say, Play, the most important thing is that 501 00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:52,160 Speaker 5: this has never happened before. So you know, we're kind 502 00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:56,120 Speaker 5: of spitballing here. But my view would be the Trump 503 00:28:56,520 --> 00:29:01,959 Speaker 5: Justice Department would argue under the supremacist clause that any 504 00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:08,600 Speaker 5: sentence ought to be postponed until after his term is over. That, 505 00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:11,680 Speaker 5: in other words, the state can't execute a sentence that 506 00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:16,720 Speaker 5: would prevent the federal government from doing its ordinary functions. 507 00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:19,840 Speaker 5: And I kind of doubt that the that the state 508 00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:22,520 Speaker 5: would fight that point. I think you know what they 509 00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:27,720 Speaker 5: want here is to get Trump convicted. You know, look, 510 00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:29,440 Speaker 5: I've been surprised by a lot of things. 511 00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:31,960 Speaker 2: But I don't I know, We've got a million just 512 00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:33,880 Speaker 2: I have to ask this, is there any chance that 513 00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:36,560 Speaker 2: they could? Because Andy, what they've done in DC is 514 00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:39,360 Speaker 2: I call it warp speed, right they or ludicrous speed. 515 00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:42,440 Speaker 2: They've moved faster in the j six trial than all 516 00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:45,480 Speaker 2: my friends who are federal defense attorneys and federal prosecutors say, 517 00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:49,200 Speaker 2: like ever happens? Could they do the sentencing much sooner 518 00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:51,120 Speaker 2: than three months after if he's found guilty? 519 00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:55,360 Speaker 5: You know, they could try. I think his lawyers could 520 00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:56,440 Speaker 5: you know, tie that. 521 00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:57,000 Speaker 4: Up for a while. 522 00:29:57,000 --> 00:30:00,000 Speaker 5: But I don't really see the big point of doing that, 523 00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:04,360 Speaker 5: fuck because again, the appeal would mean he they wouldn't 524 00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:07,200 Speaker 5: be able to execute the sentence, and what they really 525 00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:10,040 Speaker 5: really want is to call him a convicted felon. I 526 00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:13,680 Speaker 5: think how much she gets sentenced beside the point. And 527 00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:16,920 Speaker 5: it could be scandalous if you put Trump in jail 528 00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:21,800 Speaker 5: when Bragg is taking serious, serious crimes and turning it 529 00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:24,840 Speaker 5: into turning them into misdemeanors or not charging them at all. 530 00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:28,200 Speaker 5: That's certainly not going to be helpful to Biden. 531 00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:33,840 Speaker 1: Andy, you heard about the left is fired up at 532 00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:37,760 Speaker 1: me for my jury tweets and comments that I've made 533 00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:40,520 Speaker 1: on this show. Do you think that I will be 534 00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:45,880 Speaker 1: arrested for jury tampering? As Eric Swallwell has requested, as 535 00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:49,200 Speaker 1: Joy Read and CNN have requested. 536 00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:52,640 Speaker 5: Well, I would say, no, Clay, but you know, I'm 537 00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:55,800 Speaker 5: not in New York today, and Alvin Bragg is the 538 00:30:55,880 --> 00:31:00,520 Speaker 5: DA there. He's got a different idea when you're on 539 00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:03,600 Speaker 5: on this side of the political aisle than would be 540 00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:06,440 Speaker 5: the case in the normal case. In all seriousness, I 541 00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:10,440 Speaker 5: think that you know, what you said is not something 542 00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:15,280 Speaker 5: I would say, but it's not the crime of jury tampering. 543 00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:20,640 Speaker 5: It's basically First Amendment free speech. I'm you know, I 544 00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:24,640 Speaker 5: like the jury system. I'm one of these. 545 00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:28,080 Speaker 2: You still have some faith in a andy, which I appreciate. 546 00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:30,120 Speaker 2: I'm not sure I do as much, especially seeing what 547 00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:32,120 Speaker 2: we're seeing for some of these jurors. But you know, 548 00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:33,840 Speaker 2: it's the best thing we got. I get it. 549 00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:36,080 Speaker 5: Yeah. But you know, one of the things we talked 550 00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:40,360 Speaker 5: about just probably a month ago was how ridiculous it 551 00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:43,320 Speaker 5: was that the civil fraud trial was just a bench 552 00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:46,280 Speaker 5: trial in front of a garron right and I think 553 00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:48,760 Speaker 5: the only reason for making that point is because it's 554 00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:51,640 Speaker 5: more fair to have a jury trial. And the implicit 555 00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:53,959 Speaker 5: in that is that we think that, you know, twelve 556 00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:57,600 Speaker 5: sensible people are more likely to come to a correct 557 00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:00,680 Speaker 5: result than one movement progressive. So you know that's I'm 558 00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:01,600 Speaker 5: still banking on that. 559 00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:05,040 Speaker 1: If there were a mistrial, let's say they couldn't get 560 00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:09,520 Speaker 1: a verdict, there's no way they could get a case rescheduled, right. 561 00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:12,280 Speaker 1: This would basically be Bragg falling on his face if 562 00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:14,400 Speaker 1: in some way he doesn't get the felony conviction. 563 00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:17,760 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think I think number one would be ridiculous 564 00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:19,600 Speaker 5: if he wanted to try it again, because if they 565 00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:22,800 Speaker 5: don't get him on this, it's going to because it's 566 00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:25,040 Speaker 5: going to be because it's a ridiculous case, which Bragg 567 00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:27,560 Speaker 5: knew in the first place, and that's why he shut 568 00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:30,200 Speaker 5: it down in twenty twenty two. If they don't get 569 00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:32,240 Speaker 5: a conviction, it's going to be because of things like 570 00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:37,040 Speaker 5: Michael Cone, which doesn't get better over time. But the 571 00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:40,560 Speaker 5: other thing, just to be totally practical about it, is 572 00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:43,600 Speaker 5: Trump's dance cards going to be filled up with you know, 573 00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:48,240 Speaker 5: classified information proceedings down in the Florida case. And all 574 00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:50,680 Speaker 5: of the free trial stuff in the Washington case. The 575 00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:55,400 Speaker 5: j sixth case is going to start up again once 576 00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:58,680 Speaker 5: the Supreme Court rules on immunity. Because when they rule 577 00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:01,320 Speaker 5: on immunity, assuming they rule against Trump, which I do, 578 00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:04,560 Speaker 5: and then the case is good, the jurisdiction off the 579 00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:06,200 Speaker 5: case is going to go back to Judge chuck In 580 00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:08,560 Speaker 5: and she's going to start having hearings and putting the 581 00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:09,440 Speaker 5: pedal to the metal. 582 00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:10,200 Speaker 1: Well, the good news. 583 00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:13,600 Speaker 2: It sounds like Andy, neither Trump nor Clay are going 584 00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:16,360 Speaker 2: to the big House and going to be cellmates, perhaps 585 00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:18,560 Speaker 2: having to pick who gets top bunk anytime soon. 586 00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:22,840 Speaker 5: Let's let's let's pray for that outcome. 587 00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:27,160 Speaker 1: I agree with that. Pray for television chef, That's what 588 00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:27,479 Speaker 1: I can. 589 00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:29,480 Speaker 2: I tell you one thing Andy, when Clay was on, 590 00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:31,400 Speaker 2: when the heat was turned up on Clay, you know 591 00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:33,600 Speaker 2: what he said, I'd love to have Andy as my 592 00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:36,280 Speaker 2: defender if I if I actually play charges. 593 00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:37,760 Speaker 1: I would, I would, I would, I would hire You 594 00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:39,800 Speaker 1: might make some money off this before all of a sudden, Yeah. 595 00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:42,240 Speaker 5: I might come out of retirement to that case. 596 00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:53,080 Speaker 2: There we go, all right, everybody, we won't take you 597 00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:57,120 Speaker 2: up to Capitol Hill for a moment here and the 598 00:33:57,160 --> 00:34:02,720 Speaker 2: Shenanigans involving Republican leadership in the House. Our friend Sewn 599 00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:05,680 Speaker 2: Davis joins us now. He is the co founder and 600 00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:08,640 Speaker 2: CEO of the Federalists. Great work being done at the 601 00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:11,600 Speaker 2: Federalist dot com day in and day out. Sean, thanks 602 00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:12,240 Speaker 2: for being here. 603 00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:14,319 Speaker 4: With us, Thank you for having me. 604 00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:18,440 Speaker 2: So tell everybody what's going on, because there's there's this 605 00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:23,479 Speaker 2: noise about Marjorie Taylor Green wanting to replace Johnson. Wait, 606 00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:26,920 Speaker 2: did Johnson do something? There's money going overseas ninety billion? 607 00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:28,640 Speaker 2: What has happened? First? 608 00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:34,200 Speaker 1: Before we dive too far into what the heck is next, So. 609 00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:34,960 Speaker 5: Let's back up. 610 00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:38,319 Speaker 4: You know, Kevin McCarthy was deposed, They had a motion 611 00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:41,800 Speaker 4: of ak removed him. They put in Mike Johnson, I 612 00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:46,120 Speaker 4: think late October, early November. Mike Johnson looked good from 613 00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:48,520 Speaker 4: the outset, said all the right things, seemed to believe 614 00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:50,799 Speaker 4: all the right things. But specifically, he made a number 615 00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:54,279 Speaker 4: of claims and promises foremost of which was he was 616 00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:57,640 Speaker 4: not going to be moving money overseas for Ukraine or 617 00:34:57,680 --> 00:35:01,120 Speaker 4: anyone else until our own border was secure. Those were 618 00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:05,879 Speaker 4: his words. That was an ironclad, obvious explicit commitment, and 619 00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:08,719 Speaker 4: instead we are in a position right now where he 620 00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:12,640 Speaker 4: is attempting to force through the House under threat of emotion, 621 00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:17,200 Speaker 4: to vacate from Marjorie Taylor Green, which is pending a massive, 622 00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:20,239 Speaker 4: massive overseas aid bill something like one hundred billion dollars 623 00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:24,000 Speaker 4: in Ukraine, a bunch of money in Israel, a bunch 624 00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:29,440 Speaker 4: of money throughout throughout Asia, and not a dime. 625 00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:29,880 Speaker 5: For the border. 626 00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:34,200 Speaker 4: And so what's happening is there is chaos, in disunity 627 00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:37,760 Speaker 4: and all kinds of rancor in the House right now 628 00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:41,640 Speaker 4: surrounding this. And it is all because Mike Johnson, for 629 00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:46,160 Speaker 4: reasons I simply do not understand, refuses to honor his 630 00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:50,560 Speaker 4: pledge and his promise to fix and fund border security 631 00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:53,560 Speaker 4: before throwing another one hundred billion dollars at a non 632 00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:55,240 Speaker 4: American problem overseas. 633 00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:59,080 Speaker 1: So where does this all go? I mean, effectively, are 634 00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:01,000 Speaker 1: we just going to be waiting until November to see 635 00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:02,560 Speaker 1: and Sean, it's good to talk with you, Good to 636 00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:06,120 Speaker 1: see you on Friday at the Marshall Blackburn event, and 637 00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:08,239 Speaker 1: keep up the good work, as I said, then, but 638 00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:11,080 Speaker 1: where does this all go? Are we just waiting till 639 00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:13,120 Speaker 1: November to see? Who's going to have control of the 640 00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:16,359 Speaker 1: House until then? Does it matter a great deal who 641 00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:17,040 Speaker 1: the speaker is? 642 00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:21,879 Speaker 4: Well, right now, we Democrats control the House. Right now, 643 00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:24,520 Speaker 4: if you look at which bills have passed over the 644 00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:27,479 Speaker 4: last six months or so, I think all but one 645 00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:31,400 Speaker 4: has been passed with the majority of Democrat votes, not 646 00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:34,800 Speaker 4: with the majority of Republican votes. So right now Democrats 647 00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:38,680 Speaker 4: are controlling the House. They're calling the shots. Democrats are 648 00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:42,520 Speaker 4: controlling the Senate. So the question we have is can 649 00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:46,080 Speaker 4: we get to November without completely shooting ourselves in the 650 00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:50,080 Speaker 4: foot and give Republican voters a reason to actually vote 651 00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:53,880 Speaker 4: for Republicans and take back our country Because looking at 652 00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:56,440 Speaker 4: it right now, you look what Republicans are doing in Washington. 653 00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:59,640 Speaker 4: They have the majority now, albeit it to a slim one. 654 00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:02,439 Speaker 4: They have the majority. They have the numbers they can 655 00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:05,360 Speaker 4: actually bring Biden and Schumer over in the Senate to 656 00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:08,200 Speaker 4: heal and yet they refuse to do so again for 657 00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:11,960 Speaker 4: reasons I simply do not understand. So from my perspective, 658 00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:18,200 Speaker 4: the challenge for November is getting there without actually losing 659 00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:20,680 Speaker 4: the majority, which we've been steadily losing for the last 660 00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:21,200 Speaker 4: six months. 661 00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:22,040 Speaker 5: I think it's now. 662 00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:24,920 Speaker 4: Down to two seats, but actually getting to November with 663 00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:28,640 Speaker 4: the reason for Republican voters to vote for Republicans, because 664 00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:31,040 Speaker 4: I'll tell you right now, looking at what they're doing 665 00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:34,400 Speaker 4: in Washington, I'm having a tough time coming up with 666 00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:37,000 Speaker 4: a good reason to vote for Republicans in the House 667 00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:39,080 Speaker 4: when all they do is past Democrat bills. 668 00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:41,799 Speaker 2: Yeah, and Sean, I just have to wonder how many 669 00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:43,160 Speaker 2: times we're supposed to go through this. 670 00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:45,120 Speaker 1: Cycle. 671 00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:49,719 Speaker 2: And look, it's some people in both Congress and in 672 00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:52,600 Speaker 2: the media do this whole Oh we need if we 673 00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:55,200 Speaker 2: have a new leader, everything will be fine. We talked 674 00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:57,000 Speaker 2: about this when there was the push to get rid 675 00:37:57,000 --> 00:38:00,160 Speaker 2: of McCarthy. It's like, okay, but is everything going to change? 676 00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:02,359 Speaker 2: Is everything going to be fine? Or is this just now, 677 00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:06,239 Speaker 2: you know, groundhog Day for us? I mean, what do 678 00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:08,960 Speaker 2: you think the posture should be of Republicans in the 679 00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:11,879 Speaker 2: House between now and the elections that we don't lose 680 00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:14,440 Speaker 2: the majority, which is really about as thin as it 681 00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:15,720 Speaker 2: could possibly be already. 682 00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:19,719 Speaker 4: I think the job of the House right now is 683 00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:23,719 Speaker 4: to block nonsense from Joe Biden and to force Democrats 684 00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:25,680 Speaker 4: to take votes they don't want to take so that 685 00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:29,160 Speaker 4: we can maybe hopefully secure our border and fix the 686 00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:33,160 Speaker 4: damage that's been done to the country. So stop the nonsense. 687 00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:35,520 Speaker 4: Biden is doing forced Democrats. 688 00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:35,840 Speaker 5: To take bad votes. 689 00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:40,240 Speaker 4: Congressional Republican leadership is doing the opposite. They're like running 690 00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:43,480 Speaker 4: away from trying to make Democrats take tough votes. Why 691 00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:45,759 Speaker 4: on earth do they not make Democrats just vote up 692 00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:50,200 Speaker 4: or down on Israel and secure US border. That to 693 00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:52,120 Speaker 4: me is the easiest thing in the world, and yet 694 00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:55,279 Speaker 4: Republican leaders are doing everything they can to make it 695 00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:58,759 Speaker 4: as difficult and pointless as possible. And honestly, I think 696 00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:02,200 Speaker 4: the big problem is we have no leadership in Washington, DC. 697 00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:06,279 Speaker 4: We actually have no representation is normal voters, people who 698 00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:09,800 Speaker 4: spend six seven months a year working just to fund 699 00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:12,600 Speaker 4: the government. We have no one in Washington who seems 700 00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:15,600 Speaker 4: to care about the things that are bothering us every day. 701 00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:20,280 Speaker 4: Gas prices, how groceries are unaffordable, how roads and bridges 702 00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:22,680 Speaker 4: are broken. All the things that we used to take 703 00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:26,120 Speaker 4: for granted, which are just basic kind of daily necessities 704 00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:29,840 Speaker 4: of life, are completely unaffordable. And what people in Washington, 705 00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:33,200 Speaker 4: what Republican leaders are focusing on, is not fixing those problems. 706 00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:36,400 Speaker 4: But in sending more money to Ukraine. So I personally 707 00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:40,600 Speaker 4: think we need a complete wholesale cleaning of the House 708 00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:42,920 Speaker 4: of Leadership, and we actually need to put people in 709 00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:45,000 Speaker 4: there who are true leaders, who care about the country 710 00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:46,759 Speaker 4: more than they care about what the established sent. 711 00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:49,759 Speaker 2: How do they explain ninety five billion dollars in this 712 00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:54,719 Speaker 2: appropriate House Appropriations Committee going overseas and not as I 713 00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:57,160 Speaker 2: understand it, and please correct me if I'm wrong, not 714 00:39:57,280 --> 00:39:59,480 Speaker 2: a dollar going for the border. How can they make 715 00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:02,440 Speaker 2: that calculation and not expect people to just say, what 716 00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:03,000 Speaker 2: are you doing? 717 00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:07,680 Speaker 4: I don't think they care. I truly don't think they can. 718 00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:09,720 Speaker 4: I don't know if it's something that's in the water. 719 00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:13,880 Speaker 4: I mean Mike Johnson, for example, This guy had a 720 00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:16,319 Speaker 4: press conference where he straight up said we're not doing 721 00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:20,000 Speaker 4: this nonsense until we fix the border, and then he's 722 00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:23,160 Speaker 4: gone and apparently forgotten he ever said that, because you'll 723 00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:26,919 Speaker 4: notice none of his lieutenants or him ever actually try 724 00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:29,040 Speaker 4: to explain their way around it. They just want you 725 00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:31,359 Speaker 4: to forget they ever made the bletche And I think 726 00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:33,440 Speaker 4: people in Washington, I think they just don't care. I 727 00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:37,080 Speaker 4: think they've drunk the kool aid when it comes to 728 00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:41,360 Speaker 4: Ukraine or Russia or whatever, and they have decided, again 729 00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:45,160 Speaker 4: for reasons to elude me, that a regional war between 730 00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:48,440 Speaker 4: Russia and Ukraine that doesn't involve US is the literal 731 00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:51,560 Speaker 4: most important thing happening in the world today. And if 732 00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:55,160 Speaker 4: you're upset about gas prices or crime, or your streets 733 00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:57,440 Speaker 4: falling apart, or the border being non existent, it's only 734 00:40:57,480 --> 00:40:58,400 Speaker 4: because you're a tool. 735 00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:01,719 Speaker 1: Of Putin joh On. I don't know if you've got 736 00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:04,040 Speaker 1: a strong take on this, but there's also talk that 737 00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:08,480 Speaker 1: somehow this border bill could also include TikTok, and we 738 00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:12,839 Speaker 1: know that the Senate moved aggressively on TikTok, and the 739 00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:14,640 Speaker 1: House has to kind of figure out what to do. 740 00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:16,280 Speaker 1: What do you think should happen with TikTok? 741 00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:21,280 Speaker 4: I think TikTok should be banned. I'm not really down 742 00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:25,440 Speaker 4: with the whole, uh divesting thing. It looks it looks 743 00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:29,840 Speaker 4: a little too much like the intel surveillance state just 744 00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:33,160 Speaker 4: wants to make sure it's buddies, it's Facebook or Google 745 00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:35,880 Speaker 4: have control of this massive surveillance tool so that then 746 00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:38,279 Speaker 4: they can use it against their own people a lot 747 00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:41,000 Speaker 4: more than they care about blocking China. So I think 748 00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:43,600 Speaker 4: you know it's a tool of a communist government. Of 749 00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:46,440 Speaker 4: course it shouldn't exist here anymore than we would have 750 00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:49,400 Speaker 4: been cool with importing a bunch of radios from the 751 00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:52,680 Speaker 4: Soviet Union in nineteen sixty that we knew they were 752 00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:54,640 Speaker 4: listening in on during the midst of the Cold War. 753 00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:57,600 Speaker 4: If somebody had proposed that in you know, nineteen fifty 754 00:41:57,680 --> 00:42:00,279 Speaker 4: or nineteen sixty, they were to look at you like 755 00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:01,840 Speaker 4: you were a crazy person. Yeah, well, of course we 756 00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:04,600 Speaker 4: should have Soviet radios with lifting devices in their homes 757 00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:06,680 Speaker 4: in the middle of the Cold War. So I think 758 00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:10,240 Speaker 4: TikTok should be banned. But I also have pretty serious 759 00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:14,120 Speaker 4: concerns about a government picking and choosing which websites are 760 00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:16,399 Speaker 4: allowed to exist in this country. So while I think 761 00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:19,320 Speaker 4: TikTok should be banned, that bill that they were pushing 762 00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:22,120 Speaker 4: was an awful bill. It was poorly written, it was 763 00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:27,040 Speaker 4: poorly reasoned. It had terrible downstream effects and unintended consequences. 764 00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:29,040 Speaker 4: I think the bill was a disaster. But as far 765 00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:32,920 Speaker 4: as allowing Chinese surveillance and spy tools to be in 766 00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:36,520 Speaker 4: our pockets walking around with us, I think that's insanity. 767 00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:38,960 Speaker 1: No doubt. Sean look forward to seeing you again sometime 768 00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:41,880 Speaker 1: soon in the great state of Tennessee. Keep up the 769 00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:43,560 Speaker 1: good work and appreciate you being flexible. 770 00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:45,840 Speaker 4: Today y'all are crushing it. 771 00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:46,279 Speaker 5: Keep it up. 772 00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:48,359 Speaker 4: Thank you for having me on for sure. 773 00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:51,400 Speaker 1: That's Sean Davis, CEO, founder of the Federalists. They do 774 00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:54,839 Speaker 1: great work there, including our friend Molly Hemingway, who does 775 00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:57,839 Speaker 1: fantastic articles for them as well. When you switch your 776 00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:00,000 Speaker 1: cell phone service to pure Talk, you're getting the best 777 00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:02,200 Speaker 1: service for the least amount of money every month. 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