1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:01,480 Speaker 1: I think the best thing to do would be get 2 00:00:01,480 --> 00:00:03,240 Speaker 1: another panda. It's one more thing. 3 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:13,960 Speaker 2: But before we get to that, it's time to finally 4 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:18,439 Speaker 2: answer the question that's been on so many minds. How 5 00:00:18,520 --> 00:00:24,280 Speaker 2: has Rosie O'Donnell reacted to Mika and Joe visiting Trump? 6 00:00:24,520 --> 00:00:34,200 Speaker 1: Wow, stretch? Can you imagine giving a shit? Half a shit? 7 00:00:36,479 --> 00:00:41,800 Speaker 2: Can you imagine being so I don't know, dope, be 8 00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:46,440 Speaker 2: an odd that you'd be like, oh my god, Rosie's 9 00:00:46,479 --> 00:00:49,559 Speaker 2: talking about Joe and Beeker going down to mar A Lago. Anyway, 10 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:51,760 Speaker 2: this is what she said, So. 11 00:00:51,800 --> 00:00:54,480 Speaker 3: Mika and Joe went down to mar Largo to kiss 12 00:00:54,480 --> 00:00:57,880 Speaker 3: the ring. So last time I ever watched Morning Joe, 13 00:00:58,520 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 3: period and statement, unreal, unreal. For months, you were telling 14 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:08,720 Speaker 3: us he's the worst thing that could happen to this 15 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:11,000 Speaker 3: country and democracy, and then you. 16 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:18,360 Speaker 4: Go kiss his ring. Despicable, despicable You. 17 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:21,560 Speaker 2: First of all, you can't say end of statement, then 18 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:26,920 Speaker 2: keep talking. It's just a yeah, right, I just right 19 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 2: about that one part. But I don't blame the viewers 20 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 2: who have reacted that way. Wait a second, you can't 21 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:38,160 Speaker 2: spend four entire hours every day one talking about this 22 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:39,880 Speaker 2: guy's hitler and the end of it. It's the end 23 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:40,640 Speaker 2: of civilization. 24 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:43,800 Speaker 1: And two, how there's no possible way he can win, 25 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:46,800 Speaker 1: And then you lay out your argument, why, here's the 26 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:49,560 Speaker 1: data that shows he can't win, and then turns out 27 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 1: you were wrong. He could win easily. And two then 28 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:54,600 Speaker 1: you're like, what are you gonna do? Let's go have 29 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 1: lunch with him. What right? So there's actually data. On 30 00:01:59,800 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 1: this Monday, a six am hour of Morning Joe had 31 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 1: one hundred and thirteen thousand viewers in demo. By the way, 32 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:09,960 Speaker 1: that ain't enough people to have all of those salaries 33 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:12,640 Speaker 1: and all of those people and all those cameras and 34 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 1: everything like that. I don't know how long that can last. 35 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 1: But Monday it was one hundred and thirteen thousand people 36 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:20,400 Speaker 1: in demo, and then the next day after their big announcement, 37 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 1: eighty one thousand. That's a pretty big drop off in 38 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 1: one day. 39 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:27,480 Speaker 2: Holy cow. That reminds me of the Washington Post losing 40 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 2: a quarter of a million subscribers when they did the right. 41 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 1: Thing and coincidentally or not. 42 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 2: Not endorsing the moron. 43 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 1: Komla coincidentally are not the big parent company that owns 44 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 1: all the so many of those cable news channels announced 45 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:43,799 Speaker 1: that they're going to spin off some of them and 46 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:47,080 Speaker 1: made noises that MSNBC is probably not going to be 47 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:50,640 Speaker 1: packaged with NBC anymore. So I don't know. I don't know. 48 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 1: Nobody knows what's going on there. And I guess Scarborough 49 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:54,880 Speaker 1: and Miko talked yesterday about we might be done in 50 00:02:54,919 --> 00:02:56,800 Speaker 1: a year, and Mika said we might be done tomorrow. 51 00:02:57,480 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 1: So I don't know. 52 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:02,600 Speaker 2: And they were beating CNN in a lot of day 53 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:06,360 Speaker 2: parts and a lot of demos, So could this be? 54 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:08,919 Speaker 2: I mean, and the trend line is unmistakable if you're 55 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 2: running a cable news network. 56 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:13,680 Speaker 1: Well, one thing that happened this presidential election, and Trump 57 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:17,400 Speaker 1: made it more clear than anyone, is the change in 58 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:20,400 Speaker 1: the media landscape. You can go on Joe Rogan and 59 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 1: on election Day it was like seventy five million views. 60 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:25,359 Speaker 1: I don't know what it's up to now, seventy five 61 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:27,880 Speaker 1: million by going on Joe Rogan versus you could have 62 00:03:27,880 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 1: gone on Joe and Mika and had eighty thousand people 63 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:30,760 Speaker 1: see you. 64 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 2: Right, yeah, yeah, Well, change change, it's inevitable. 65 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:40,840 Speaker 1: So here's my thing on maybe we ought to get 66 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:43,440 Speaker 1: another pandem my I don't know where I am on 67 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 1: video games with my kids. I really don't. I know, 68 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 1: I've read a lot of the studies and all that 69 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:52,280 Speaker 1: sort of stuff. But see, when I was young, they 70 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:54,320 Speaker 1: talked about how awful television was for you, and I 71 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:57,040 Speaker 1: don't feel like other than opportunity cost, which is not 72 00:03:57,080 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 1: a minor thing, but other than opportunity costs, I don't 73 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:03,400 Speaker 1: feel like television did any damage to me. But again, 74 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 1: not that opportunity cost is not a big deal because 75 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:12,440 Speaker 1: you are doing the control group of what of you? 76 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:13,680 Speaker 2: You're the experiment group? 77 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 1: You watch TV? How the control group? Well, I don't 78 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:17,760 Speaker 1: have any idea, but I just I certainly don't. 79 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:20,480 Speaker 2: Have that truth bomb right there. You shouldn't think it is. 80 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:24,599 Speaker 2: I doved for cover, I've got I got divine. 81 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:26,520 Speaker 1: There are plenty of things in my life I was 82 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:28,840 Speaker 1: warned against that I can tell you right now. Yes, 83 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:30,880 Speaker 1: they were bad for me, and that was a bad idea. 84 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:33,760 Speaker 1: I don't feel that way about television. But so I 85 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:36,240 Speaker 1: don't know where I am on video games and video games. 86 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:38,400 Speaker 1: There's different lots of different kinds of video games, but 87 00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 1: this particular one that my son is into now. He 88 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:44,919 Speaker 1: also has a lot of other issues and to a 89 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 1: certain extent, him playing this video game is better than 90 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:49,680 Speaker 1: a lot of other things he could be doing or 91 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:52,560 Speaker 1: thinking about. But there's this video game that he got into, 92 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:54,159 Speaker 1: and I don't know how he came to discover. It's 93 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:57,440 Speaker 1: called Planet Zoo and it's you running a zoo. 94 00:04:57,800 --> 00:05:00,839 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I've heard of that, yeah, oh yeah. 95 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:03,880 Speaker 1: And the version that you pay for, because there's a 96 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 1: free version that's kind of a smaller version then the 97 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:07,880 Speaker 1: version you pay for, which we bought the other day. 98 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 1: It's running a business. They made it a zoo to 99 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 1: make it more interesting for kids, but I mean it 100 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:17,440 Speaker 1: is so exhaustive in its different ways that it's like 101 00:05:17,560 --> 00:05:20,360 Speaker 1: running a business, Like keeping track of how many people 102 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:24,599 Speaker 1: are visiting and which exhibits they're visiting, and what that 103 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:27,080 Speaker 1: exhibit costs, and whether or not it's a good idea 104 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:28,880 Speaker 1: to keep that exhibit if only this many, and just 105 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:32,039 Speaker 1: hiring people you're having trouble hiring people, and then what 106 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:33,760 Speaker 1: you got to pay them more to keep them around, 107 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:36,960 Speaker 1: and just all these different things. It's just fascinating, and 108 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:39,280 Speaker 1: I'm fascinated that my son's so into it. 109 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:41,839 Speaker 2: So I'm jealous that I didn't have that as a kid. 110 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:43,640 Speaker 1: Kittie I grew up on. 111 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:47,240 Speaker 5: They were obviously not of the graphs that we see now, 112 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:49,839 Speaker 5: but there were Zoo Tycoon. There's also a new one 113 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:54,040 Speaker 5: that I will admit I play at times that you 114 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:57,279 Speaker 5: build and run a theme park and you can build 115 00:05:57,279 --> 00:05:59,839 Speaker 5: the roller coasters, and then you decide where the food 116 00:05:59,839 --> 00:06:02,679 Speaker 5: goes and how to generate traffic going in certain directs. 117 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 1: It's really cool. That is interesting. Like he had a 118 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:08,120 Speaker 1: panda display and it was getting some traffic, but not 119 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:10,080 Speaker 1: that much, so he just added a whole bunch to 120 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 1: his panda display to try to make it more appealing 121 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:14,240 Speaker 1: to people who visit the zoo. He had to spend 122 00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 1: a whole bunch of the money that he had saved 123 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 1: up from the zoo on it, so it better work out. 124 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:21,719 Speaker 1: But it's just really that's fantastic. 125 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:25,159 Speaker 2: If he ever consider a pandas. 126 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:27,560 Speaker 1: Wow, I'll just said that to him. This is what 127 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:29,560 Speaker 1: you do after the zoo closes and you're gonna have 128 00:06:29,560 --> 00:06:31,039 Speaker 1: to get this out through the dark web or something 129 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:34,719 Speaker 1: like that. You stage panda fights, barbars, you charge people. 130 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:36,400 Speaker 1: You know they're gonna have to pay you cash because 131 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:37,600 Speaker 1: he can't have this on the books. 132 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:40,559 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Like fifty thousand get to walk in the door. 133 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:43,320 Speaker 2: Then the wagering, you get the vig right. 134 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:47,159 Speaker 1: You might need a vet who's on the payroll also 135 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:47,760 Speaker 1: on the sly. 136 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:51,599 Speaker 2: Wow, I regret my own. 137 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:53,839 Speaker 1: Joke this turn. 138 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, I was gonna say, if he ever gets tired 139 00:06:57,560 --> 00:07:01,360 Speaker 5: of the zoo, there are theme parks there, arcade centers, 140 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:03,240 Speaker 5: and then I believe there's another one where it's you 141 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:05,479 Speaker 5: can build a stadium and decide where you put the 142 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:08,880 Speaker 5: all the stuff for people to explore. 143 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:12,000 Speaker 1: It's pretty cool. Yeah, if nothing else, just the number 144 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:15,160 Speaker 1: of different things that made him think about that you 145 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 1: wouldn't normally think about. Like he was open till he 146 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 1: thought it'd be a good idea to be open till 147 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:20,480 Speaker 1: nine o'clock at night or something of the zoo, but 148 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:22,320 Speaker 1: nobody was coming in that late, and it was costing 149 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 1: a lot of money to have employees around, so he 150 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:27,920 Speaker 1: cut back the hours. Oh this is fantastic. I couldn't 151 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 1: love this more. What an interesting idea for a game. 152 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:32,680 Speaker 1: And I'm surprised it's so popular. It's really popular. 153 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:37,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm encouraged that it's popular like that, And again 154 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:40,080 Speaker 2: I'm jealous. I wish i'd had that as a kid. 155 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 2: I mean, it gets your your brain going in so 156 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:45,880 Speaker 2: many different directions that are necessary to understand the world 157 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 2: and business. 158 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:49,480 Speaker 1: And if video games could go that direction or have 159 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:51,960 Speaker 1: gone that direction, and then you add I and add 160 00:07:51,960 --> 00:07:54,680 Speaker 1: in an AI element that might be able to make 161 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:58,440 Speaker 1: it even more amazing. Those could be some tremendous learning tools. 162 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 2: Then you graduate to Hoe Palace where you're running a 163 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:04,680 Speaker 2: brothel when. 164 00:08:03,880 --> 00:08:06,160 Speaker 1: You're about fifteen. You want to run Hoe Palace. 165 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:09,880 Speaker 2: Right, you gotta you gotta pay the girls and or guys. 166 00:08:10,080 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 2: You gotta pay off the cops the strip club. 167 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:17,120 Speaker 1: And like your son will say, yeah, Candy hurt her 168 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:19,720 Speaker 1: ankle so she can't hang upside down from the pole anymore. 169 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:21,040 Speaker 1: So I had to lay her off. 170 00:08:21,640 --> 00:08:28,440 Speaker 2: Right. Oh my god, Candy is a real you know, 171 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:33,040 Speaker 2: a real producer. Maybe you have her ten bar for 172 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:36,080 Speaker 2: a little bit, you know, keep her on the payroll 173 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:38,600 Speaker 2: till our ankle is healed. See, you gotta be creative. 174 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:41,560 Speaker 2: You gotta think you know the cost benefits. 175 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:43,360 Speaker 1: I hired a new DJ. I thought I would bring 176 00:08:43,400 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 1: in more money, but it didn't make any difference whatsoever. 177 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:51,960 Speaker 1: Complete waste guys. Put your hands together for Candy. 178 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:55,160 Speaker 2: Oh now, I feel slimy. 179 00:08:55,920 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 4: You should, you know, as Like when I was a kid, 180 00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:00,360 Speaker 4: my parents got me this game put up by the 181 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 4: DMV called Smog Control. You got to stand in line 182 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:06,480 Speaker 4: in real time for like two hours and then finally 183 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:09,720 Speaker 4: you earn some money and then you get the car smogged. Yeah. 184 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:12,400 Speaker 1: I like the idea of a DMV simulator. 185 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:16,160 Speaker 2: Oh what do you hate your kid? 186 00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:20,000 Speaker 4: Well, I guess that's it.