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Speaker 1: Hello Texans, Welcome to the show. As we have less

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Speaker 1: than forty eight hours to go before the Texans take

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Speaker 1: on the Kansas City Chiefs in the Divisional round, the

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Speaker 1: sixth time the Texans have been this far. Can they

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Speaker 1: get to the next layer? We will discuss throughout the night.

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Speaker 1: We have two hours of programming for you this evening.

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Speaker 1: Along the way, Frank Ross, Special Teams Coordinator a visit

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Speaker 1: with Dan Pastorini to talk about the Oilers breaking through

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Speaker 1: for the first time and that happened in nineteen seventy eight.

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Speaker 1: Will reminisce and he also was at the game against

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Speaker 1: the Chargers. He'll give us his thoughts on CJ and

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Speaker 1: the rest of the situation. But we begin the show.

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Speaker 1: It's Mark Vandermin and John Harris with you like we

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Speaker 1: always do on a Thursday, with the General John McClain. Okay, General,

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Speaker 1: here we go Texans Chiefs. What's gonna happen? Saturday at

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Speaker 1: three thirty. Good evening, Good evening.

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Speaker 2: Speaking of Dan Pastorini, the last time Houston had a

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Speaker 2: team in the AFC Championship Game was when they beat

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Speaker 2: the Chargers in San Diego. Team more Underdogs. Dan did

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Speaker 2: not play. He was injured. That was in nineteen seventy nine,

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Speaker 2: so it's been forty five years since Houston fans have

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Speaker 2: had a team in the championship game. And if the

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Speaker 2: Texans upset the Chiefs, they'll be in the championship game.

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Speaker 2: But when I think about back to the Holmes six

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Speaker 2: to zero in the Divisional round, sixteen touchdowns, no interceptions,

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Speaker 2: twenty seventy percent completions, and a rating of one point fifteen,

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Speaker 2: and it does think about all the bad weather he's

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Speaker 2: played in. I think the Chiefs will win and I

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Speaker 2: think there'll be about a touchdown at the Texans defense,

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Speaker 2: which is yet to play a great game against a quarterback,

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Speaker 2: premier quarterback the way it has at home. If they

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Speaker 2: could transfer that to the road in this game, that

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Speaker 2: is be their best chance to pull an upset.

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Speaker 3: So let's talk about that in general, getting the upset,

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Speaker 3: pulling the upset?

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Speaker 4: What is he going to take?

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Speaker 3: Let's talk offensively, What is he going to take offensively

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Speaker 3: against the Chiefs defense that I think is good and

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Speaker 3: bordering on great, But I don't think it's the Ravens defense.

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Speaker 4: I think there are others that might be better.

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Speaker 3: How do the Texans offensively do enough to get the

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Speaker 3: win against the Chiefs.

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Speaker 2: I agree with you on that assessment of their defense.

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Speaker 2: You know, first you gotta control Chris Jones. Not many

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Speaker 2: teams can do that. You say, win the turnover battle, Nope,

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Speaker 2: they just lost the turnover. They just don't commit turnovers.

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Speaker 2: They just committed three to one. And you say, okay, score,

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Speaker 2: People say score early, take the crowd out of the game. Well,

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Speaker 2: I remember twenty four to zero early in the second quarter. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: in Arrowhead Stadium. So both of those things are out.

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Speaker 2: Stroud has to play the way he did, not the

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Speaker 2: first five possessions, but the rest of the possessions, he's

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Speaker 2: got to play even better, and he's got to do

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Speaker 2: it from the start. They've got to be able to run.

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Speaker 2: Chiefs are great against the run. If you think about

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Speaker 2: that first game up there, it was interesting. Demigo Ryan

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Speaker 2: Stroud said it did. Bobby Slowey said it did. So

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Speaker 2: they had different perspectives. And I think it was good

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Speaker 2: to play up there December twenty first or whatever it was,

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Speaker 2: because they were at Arrowhead Stadium at the time when

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Speaker 2: were doing everything they could to win that game, and

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Speaker 2: the Texans lost by eight, and that was after they

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Speaker 2: lost Tank Dell to multiple ligament injuries, and they still

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Speaker 2: lost about one score game. So if they could do

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Speaker 2: that again, but Stroud has got to play great and

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Speaker 2: then of course the defense has got to play. If

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Speaker 2: all those amazing stats about Herbert for interceptions after throwing

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Speaker 2: three during the season, two weren't his fault that he

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Speaker 2: never ran the ball for the first time this season.

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Speaker 2: That one stunned me. Not one time did Justin Herbert won.

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Speaker 2: If you'd gone into that game and he said which

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Speaker 2: have said Justin Herbert because he's their second leading rusher,

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Speaker 1: General Johnny thought that in twenty nineteen, when the Texans

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Speaker 1: they just didn't look quite themselves early on. Obviously, they

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Speaker 1: not having play that quote meaningful game since Christmas?

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Speaker 2: It could you know, it could mean something. It could

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Speaker 2: They're just they've been in every situation and they think

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Speaker 2: the key to this game. And I'll guarantee you if

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Speaker 2: not gonna let his team blow that twenty four old

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Speaker 2: lead with a stupid decisions like Bill O'Brien had. And

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Speaker 2: we all want to blame O'Brien. Remember on that game,

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Speaker 2: the long kickoff return, the fumbled kickoff by DeAndre Carter,

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Speaker 2: not to mention the fake field goal. It seems like

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Speaker 2: it was Murphy's law. After it was twenty four old.

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Speaker 2: Bill's decision kick a field goal instead of go for

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Speaker 2: fourth down possible touchdown. But boy, Demiko would not allow

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Speaker 2: those things to happen. Uh if the Texans do get

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Speaker 4: Yeah, no question.

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Speaker 3: The one thing that Demiko I think defensively has to

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Speaker 3: and I've talked about this for a couple of days now,

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Speaker 3: general the Mahomes rules, how you have to rush him

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Speaker 3: and be smart about it to create pressure, but not

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Speaker 3: allow him to scoot through the A gap or B

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Speaker 3: but it's the scrambles that really keep some key drives alive.

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Speaker 4: How important you think it is for that.

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Speaker 3: Alone, just to eliminate those scrambles much less the run

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Speaker 3: game with Pacheco and Hunt, et cetera. But to take

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Speaker 3: away Mahomes scrambles and scrambling ability that really make it

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Speaker 3: tough with the secondary too, to kind of plaster the

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Speaker 2: That killed the Texans in the first game. You know,

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Speaker 2: he had a touchdown, he had what a thirty three

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Speaker 2: I remember they kept getting open nobody when they came

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Speaker 2: whatever he can make off schedule plays like nobody ever.

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Speaker 2: And I don't know this, but I think the ideal

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Speaker 2: person to spy on him would be isiz aul Shire

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Speaker 2: because he is fast, he's smart, he's instinctive. Have him

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Speaker 2: in the middle of the field and his sole responsibility

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Speaker 2: and he's and he's got to That was a great

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Speaker 2: word to you, Scoot. I was trying to look for

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Speaker 2: a kind of word that I'm my home's place.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 2: He doesn't just take off and run for big yards.

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Speaker 2: He's not a strong runner. But I think Ayle Shyer

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Speaker 2: would be the perfect person to stick with him. And

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Speaker 2: if he could do it, if they could somehow keep

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Speaker 2: with Justin Herbert Boy, that would play a big role

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Speaker 1: All right general. We mentioned it at the top of

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Speaker 1: the show. The sixth time the Texans have gotten to

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Speaker 1: the Divisional round. It was against the Ravens the first year,

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Speaker 1: the Patriots, the second year. The third time they got

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Speaker 1: there was the Patriots again in twenty sixteen. You look

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Speaker 1: at twenty nineteen against the Chiefs, you look at last

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Speaker 1: year against the Ravens. Is this their best shot? I

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Speaker 1: felt like last year was probably at the time their

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Speaker 1: I feel like this is probably even a better shot,

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Speaker 1: even though, well they're underdogs.

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Speaker 4: We get it.

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Speaker 1: It's the two time defending Super Bowl champions. They're a dynasty.

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Speaker 1: You have to knock off the King. What do you

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Speaker 1: think about that?

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Speaker 2: That is weird to say that, considering it is a

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Speaker 2: team that has all those things. But you didn't want

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Speaker 2: to see him play the Ravens. The Ravens owned Texans.

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Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson owns the Texans, and I personally would love

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Speaker 2: to see the Texans and the Bills both pull up sets.

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Speaker 2: Bull Bills are underdog at home pull upsets. So then

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Speaker 2: we could talk about the historical significance of Houston versus Buffalo,

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Speaker 2: but that would take two monumental performances. And because the

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Speaker 2: way the defense played, and not just the front four

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Speaker 2: linebackers played great, DB's played great. There were some unsung

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Speaker 2: heroes the Nico Audrey, follow Podicassi, Eric Murray in that game.

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Speaker 2: And if those guys could come close to that against

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Speaker 2: my Homes, who's not throwing the ball down the field?

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Speaker 2: Do you guys realize that? In the game in December,

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Speaker 2: the top five receivers for the Chiefs none average ten

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Speaker 2: yards catch. They were all short receptions and Mahomes completed

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Speaker 2: high percentage, but nobody averaged ten yards. And I think

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Speaker 2: when you're going against a guy like Xavier Worthy, he

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Speaker 2: was supposed to all about speed, but they kept him contained. Now,

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Speaker 2: those guys hurt him, but they didn't beat him on

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Speaker 2: expo a lot of explosive plays. The backs did a

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Speaker 2: better job of that. Travis Kelsey, I don't know if

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Speaker 2: he'll retire what, but he had the worst average of

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Speaker 2: his career, and you know, he's thirty five years old

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Speaker 2: and we've seen him make so many clutch plays against

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Speaker 2: the Texans. Going back to that first playoff game under

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Speaker 2: Bill O'Brien back before when Mahomes was I'm still at

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Speaker 2: Texas Tech, and so I just think that if the

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Speaker 2: Texans had to play on the road against one of

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Speaker 2: these teams, the Chiefs are the best one to play against,

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Speaker 2: because Buffalo, they played Buffalo. The Bill is going to

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Speaker 2: be looking for revenge. Texans have played all three of

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Speaker 2: these other teams and they're one and two, and the

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Speaker 2: only one that beat them badly was Baltimore.

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Speaker 4: So general, I'm glad you brought up Kelsey, I said

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Speaker 3: And we actually debated this walking over to practice on

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Speaker 3: Thursday with Kelsey because he has made so many key

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Speaker 3: plays against the Texans and other teams as well, but

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Speaker 3: the Texans in particular.

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Speaker 4: And when Mahomes gets in a.

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Speaker 3: Situation third and whatever he wants, Kelsey, how often or

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Speaker 3: would you at all think about putting Derek Stingley on

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Speaker 3: Kelsey in a key situation where you know you've gotta

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Speaker 3: have it? Would you put Stingley on Kelsey?

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Speaker 2: Manna Man?

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Speaker 1: And by the way, when Johnny said Thursday, he meant

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Speaker 1: game week Thursday, which was actually Wednesday, because Saturday of Sunday. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And Friday is going to be Saturday. Yes you call that, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: go ahead and ask you to repeat that. Yeah, No,

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Speaker 2: Ask a lot this week about the team that I

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's gonna be a good one. All Right, this

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Speaker 1: It would you rather occupy the vacancy in Tennessee as

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Speaker 2: GM Indagville is in a GM and name only. He

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Speaker 2: He's like a glorified personnel director. And they're getting a

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Speaker 2: And then they know, well, if the Titans turning around.

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Speaker 2: Even though Chad Brinker, President Football Operations as finals say

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Speaker 2: The GM's got no juice, but maybe it will lead

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Speaker 2: to a better job as a general manager where in Jacksonville.

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Speaker 2: I think problem in Jacksonville is he got this big

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Speaker 2: you're now uncomfortable, that is, if you have that, and

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Speaker 2: Balky's going to be making the decisions and he gets

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Speaker 2: good jam, I think that's the best job. No pressure

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Speaker 2: in a division it wasn't any good, and no pressure

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Speaker 2: that's the best. I don't think Titan's the best. The

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Speaker 3: Well, there's the reason that all these jobs are open.

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Speaker 3: That's one thing. Uh, But the this is like you know, choosing, Hey,

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Speaker 2: I mean you have no power.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you're gonna be glorified scout.

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Speaker 3: You've got to deal with Damy Adams is not always

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Speaker 3: But he's gonna be basically a glorified offensive coordinator, and

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Speaker 3: And that would worry me if I'm Liam Cohen, and

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Speaker 2: Hopefully and copy in another year at Tampa working with

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Speaker 1: Prime time in Dallas. Question, now, are you in general?

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Speaker 2: I think Gallen Moore is the best fit for there.

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Speaker 2: He was there eight years, he knows, Jerry knows Dak Prescott.

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Speaker 2: the media is pushing this like crazy. You hired Dion

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Speaker 2: I think maybe of nineteen, but I goes who are

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Speaker 2: if you have a using record, Well, Jason Woodin's there

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Speaker 2: but man, oh man, it just seems like they ought

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Speaker 2: Belichick would go down. Let's see spy Yate, the flakegate,

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Speaker 4: You go?

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Speaker 1: How about that? Raiders Jets? Which job do you like better?

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Speaker 2: But Ben Johnson better get a job this year because

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Speaker 2: if he keeps turning people down and they have injuries

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Speaker 2: But I still think Chicago with Caleb Williams really good defense,

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Speaker 2: They got all off season to fix it. That's still

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Speaker 1: Is it right or wrong that Brady is still on

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Speaker 2: Gosh, they're paying him three hundred and seventy five million

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Speaker 2: these restrictions on him. And when they approved him as

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Speaker 2: a minor partner, they knew what was going to happen.

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Speaker 2: And as long as I don't know what advantages it is,

437
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Speaker 2: they put so many restrictions on him, I'm amazed he

438
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Speaker 2: can do his job now. He's fortunate that they have

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Speaker 2: the internet. If it was before the Internet, when people

440
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Speaker 2: could just feed him everything, it would be almost impossible

441
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Speaker 2: to do both. But I do not see him walking

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Speaker 2: away from three hundred and seventy five million.

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Speaker 1: So am I crazy? And both of you william the

444
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Speaker 1: on this? Am I crazy?

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Speaker 5: That?

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Speaker 4: I think the.

447
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Speaker 1: Entity that should have the biggest problem with this is

448
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Speaker 1: Fox itself, because I don't want this guy who's an

449
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Speaker 1: owner on the air. What's he going to say about

450
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Speaker 1: the other teams? Is he going to be honest and

451
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Speaker 1: up front? I know that the owners might have a

452
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Speaker 1: beef because if he's criticizing my team, Hey, he's a

453
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Speaker 1: fellow owner. What are we doing here? He's a limited partner,

454
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Speaker 1: he's not a full owner. I get it, But if

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Speaker 1: I'm Fox, I'm living about this. I can't have him

456
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Speaker 1: in production meetings. He really can't dig deep and how

457
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Speaker 1: much is he really going to say to criticize these

458
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Speaker 1: other teams. I'm doubting the objectivity of Tom Brady on

459
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Speaker 1: my broadcast. I want my money back, and you know what,

460
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Speaker 1: he's not even that good. I'd rather get Greg Olsen

461
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Speaker 1: back up because I'll be celebrated for doing that and

462
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Speaker 1: saving my thirty plus million a year.

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Speaker 2: General he's been extremely critical. I've heard him say some

464
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Speaker 2: things about players and I totally disagreed with it. And

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Speaker 2: it's like he's still playing and a guy makes a

466
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Speaker 2: bad mistake, he wouldn't get him involved again, and Stevin

467
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Speaker 2: giving him another chance. It's like he's still the Patriots

468
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Speaker 2: quarterback or the Buccaneers quarterback, and he doesn't suffer fools easily.

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Speaker 2: And I haven't heard him but a few times. And

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Speaker 2: if his name was Tom Brady, I'd say he does fine.

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Speaker 2: But Greg Olsen is great in what he does and

472
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Speaker 2: he understood his situation. I can't wait till Olson's a

473
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Speaker 2: free agent and he tells Fox up yours.

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Speaker 1: Okay, we'll see what happens. We'll see if he does

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Speaker 1: do that. General, thanks so much for joining us. What

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Speaker 1: do you have going on in Houston Texans dot com?

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Speaker 2: I have a got him up about the game. I'm

478
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Speaker 2: gonna have one for Friday for how the Texans what

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Speaker 2: they have to do to beat the Chiefs. Guys.

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Speaker 4: Thank you very much, as always outstanding.

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Speaker 1: John McClain, Houston Texans dot Com. Coming up Frank Ross,

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Speaker 1: Special teams coordinator for your Texans. He's a ball of fire.

483
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Speaker 1: You need this energy. It's coming up next year on

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Speaker 1: Texans Radio. Right back here in the Hyundai Texans Radio studio.

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Speaker 1: Let's get to this now, Special teams coordinator Frank Ross.

486
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Speaker 1: And if you haven't seen the video of Frank Ross

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Speaker 1: running down the sideline as D'Angelo Ross, no relation is

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Speaker 1: running that blocked conversion ball back for a two point conversion.

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Speaker 1: The other way, it is outstanding. His energy infectious. He's

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Speaker 1: walked into the business ops part of this office here

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Speaker 1: at NRG Stadium and it'll be all quiet, and then

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Speaker 1: Ross all of a sudden says, you know, he just

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Speaker 1: yells out, and he's just one of those igniters. He

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Speaker 1: gets everybody fired up, and he's super fired up this

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Speaker 1: week for this game history making potential Texans taking on

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Speaker 1: the Chiefs in the divisional round Arrowhead Stadium. Here's our

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Speaker 1: visit with Frank Ross. Coach, good to see you, Thanks

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Speaker 1: for having me.

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Speaker 4: Let's go. Let's go. Energy at an all time high. Well,

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Speaker 4: it's always high with you. Energy is always peak.

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Speaker 1: So you've seen the video of you running down the

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Speaker 1: sideline as is gonna come up. Of course, as you're

503
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Speaker 1: running down the sideline, you're so excited. It's Ross against

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Speaker 1: Ross in a in a race. I guess we could

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Speaker 1: do like this rich Eye Eisen type thing, you know,

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Speaker 1: run Frank, run, do it for charity of the offseason.

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Speaker 1: I don't know sol like that that that. Yeah, see

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Speaker 1: run Frank Ron and we'll incorporate hair cutting into it

509
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Speaker 1: as well. But coach, what a great moment right there.

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Speaker 1: And I know it's not about you. It's about what

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Speaker 1: your players do. But to see that play executed must

512
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Speaker 1: have been so gratifying for you.

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Speaker 4: You said it yourself right there.

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Speaker 6: I think, you know, I lost my own in my

515
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Speaker 6: own emotions of just happiness and joy for t'angelo Ross. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: and understand Delo is an earner like it doesn't you know. No,

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Speaker 6: I'm not gonna take anything away from Derek Stingley. He's

518
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Speaker 6: used to making those plays in the spotlight. We've you know,

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Speaker 6: yeah and guys, and he's earned in his own I'm.

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Speaker 4: Not you know, discredited.

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Speaker 6: Uh, but for that moment, and just the amount of

522
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Speaker 6: joy is hard to express. And uh in a player

523
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Speaker 6: who's come so far up down on the roster, up

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Speaker 6: active for games. How many times I had to go

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Speaker 6: to de lo Hey thinking you're going to start this week, Uh,

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Speaker 6: you're not active like Dangle. That it's hard is a

527
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Speaker 6: hard existence for those fringe guys. And yeah, that was

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Speaker 6: a special moment. I couldn't be happier. And I'll just say,

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Speaker 6: and I have said this to the local media too,

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Speaker 6: but I don't want people to pass over Deniko Autry

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Speaker 6: like the play doesn't happen with Deniko, Like, we've been

532
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Speaker 6: working that, getting our hands into the ball flight, knocking

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Speaker 6: down some kicks, and he's been doing it for a

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Speaker 6: long time, and.

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Speaker 4: He showed up in a big way in a momentum

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Speaker 4: stealing moment. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, because if he makes that, which it's ten points,

538
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Speaker 3: a touchdown, a field goal, now, all of a sudden,

539
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Speaker 3: it's two touchdowns that they've got to use to beat you,

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Speaker 3: and they of course don't score again. So that was

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Speaker 3: kind of nice. But it's the other play, Frank, that

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Speaker 3: I think it came so close to that being the

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Speaker 3: game changing play was early on and I thought he

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Speaker 3: said something that was really interesting, and I want you

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Speaker 3: to speak to this. Okay, we've watched practice, and we've

546
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Speaker 3: watched him work that in practice, training camp. We've seen

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Speaker 3: him try that and try that, and try that and

548
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Speaker 3: try that and.

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Speaker 4: Work on it.

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Speaker 3: And he said to me in the locker room, I

551
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Speaker 3: didn't know whether it would ever work, where we're wasting

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Speaker 3: our time and then all of a sudden it works.

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Speaker 3: What does that say obviously for him making that play

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Speaker 3: but also using a technique that maybe you started working

555
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Speaker 3: on back in training camp, but you never use it

556
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Speaker 3: or you can't use it, or it doesn't work, or

557
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Speaker 3: you've tried it but it's not really working, and then finally,

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Speaker 3: at the biggest time, it comes up and it works.

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Speaker 4: You know, you guys know this that when you make

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Speaker 4: that miracle shot.

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Speaker 6: Like you've heard the Ray Allen talking about hitting that

562
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Speaker 6: shot from the baseline corner. He's like, I hit that

563
00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:04,760
Speaker 6: shot thirty times in pregame, right, it's the banked reps.

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Speaker 6: Everybody sees the one offs on Sunday nights or Saturdays

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Speaker 6: afternoons or Thursday night, Monday night.

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Speaker 4: They don't see what you've seen, which.

567
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Speaker 6: Is wrap after rep after rep because how many times

568
00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:23,000
Speaker 6: the freestyle plays do happen, But how many times are

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Speaker 6: you going to sit there and say, oh, yeah, that

570
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Speaker 6: was with intent and so this one was with intent practiced.

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Speaker 6: But you know they have NFL players on their sidelines too,

572
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Speaker 6: and for us to execute in that very split second

573
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Speaker 6: moment is just a testament to putting the work in

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Speaker 6: ahead of time.

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Speaker 1: One more thing on the blocked extra point though, because

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Speaker 1: the kick gets blocked high in the air, gets batted

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Speaker 1: down by Dicker and a lot of guys kind of

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Speaker 1: stop right, your guys, Hey, this is a live ball

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Speaker 1: and you go after this stuff and yeah, Neville had

580
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Speaker 1: the big hit and you capitalize in the biggest possible

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Speaker 1: way at the time.

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Speaker 6: Know, it infuriates me when we when I see a

583
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Speaker 6: batted pass or like a lateral screen and everybody just stops.

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Speaker 6: It makes my blood boil, Like play the play through

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Speaker 6: the whistle, make him pull you back, like so yeah,

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Speaker 6: proud that we were the aggressors. I could take it

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Speaker 6: to a play a year ago Arizona Cardinals at home

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Speaker 6: and it's a punt. Okay, this is week. What do

589
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Speaker 6: we play that week now? I don't know, mid middle

590
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Speaker 6: of last year, okay, and a punt hits off the

591
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Speaker 6: back of the gunner, right di'angelo slash the punt return

592
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Speaker 6: player in getting there. The input the replay review couldn't

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Speaker 6: give a good but they swarmed to the text and

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Speaker 6: our guys swarm to the ball, jumped on sold it

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00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:57,760
Speaker 6: and what is it, I don't know the word, irrefutable evidence.

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00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:02,480
Speaker 6: It's over like that stuff matters. And then you look

597
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Speaker 6: at an opportunity moment like we had on the block kick,

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Speaker 6: like don't wait on them, let's go so proud that

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Speaker 6: they took that to the field.

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Speaker 3: Frank, what has Damien given you in the return game

601
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Speaker 3: that I don't know? Maybe you we saw him last

602
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Speaker 3: year obviously have that return against the Browns, but he's

603
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Speaker 3: seemingly giving you really good returns consistently when teams decide

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Speaker 3: to test him.

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Speaker 4: What's making him the right.

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Speaker 3: Fit as you're as the returner in this new kind

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Speaker 3: of kickoff world we live in.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I think I think he's starting to figure out

609
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Speaker 6: the run pats where how he wants to get going

610
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Speaker 6: and and his where his stem and track will end

611
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Speaker 6: up leading them.

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Speaker 4: But you know it's it's the wave has.

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Speaker 6: Become more five by five and less cornered with layers,

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Speaker 6: even though some you have to have some sort of

615
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Speaker 6: safety in that layer. But for him, as a big,

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Speaker 6: strong runner, he's kind of figured out like if I'm

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Speaker 6: if they're slow in and I'm not, I'm the one

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Speaker 6: at the advantage and he is not an easy human

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Speaker 6: being to tackle. So he's found the extra yards need

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Speaker 6: him to do that this Sunday, big time, and against

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Speaker 6: a dynamic specialty.

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Speaker 4: Like they're just well coded, the Chiefs are well coached.

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Speaker 6: So when we could find those yards and then maybe

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00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:22,319
Speaker 6: it's a nice explosive, but then on top of it,

625
00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:24,399
Speaker 6: you finish falling forward for two more.

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Speaker 4: That to me is like tempost setting.

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Speaker 6: That to me is is like, you know, kind of

628
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Speaker 6: get that little that little juice of adrenaline, you know,

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Speaker 6: like that gives your team that when it's already a

630
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Speaker 6: nice clean run lane, you're falling forward through an arm tackle,

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Speaker 6: maybe you run somebody over. We've seen him do that

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Speaker 6: on games here and yeah, he's a hard tackle.

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Speaker 4: We need him to do that this sunday.

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Speaker 1: You're not in precipitation in all likelihood, but some wind

635
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Speaker 1: and cold whatever. How do you how does that affect

636
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Speaker 1: how you call things? As a special team's core ordinator,

637
00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:02,200
Speaker 1: pregame warm ups factor heavily.

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Speaker 4: How do you go about that?

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Speaker 7: For sure?

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Speaker 6: For I would say, the biggest thing that affects is,

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Speaker 6: all right, well, where do we want to finish.

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Speaker 4: The half with?

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Speaker 6: Call it the wind that you're back or you know,

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00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:15,759
Speaker 6: that's that's kind of the stating the obvious, and what's

645
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:17,920
Speaker 6: your yard mark? Where are we defending, and where are

646
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:22,319
Speaker 6: we kicking from? As are long for our field goal?

647
00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:25,359
Speaker 6: What's our makeable range? And things like that, So how

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Speaker 6: far is the ball travel and that's really what you're

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Speaker 6: trying to gather pregame, and then it's and then from

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Speaker 6: there on out, it's a it's a sliding and evolving scale. Hey,

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Speaker 6: we're going this way in the third quarter, this way

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Speaker 6: in the fourth quarter, we're going, uh, we're driving down,

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Speaker 6: Like which hash do we want the ball? That's going

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Speaker 6: to be a sliding scale relative to it. And you

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Speaker 6: got to lean on communication that our pros are like,

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Speaker 6: they're pros for a reason, Tommy and Canmy know, like, hey,

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Speaker 6: I want to hit this ball, So you lean on

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Speaker 6: them and I'm not out there kicking it, believe me.

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Speaker 6: They are, so they know best and we're gonna give

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Speaker 6: them the best opportunity to set him up for coach.

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Speaker 3: Hopefully he doesn't we can Hopefully he doesn't punt at all,

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Speaker 3: that's right.

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Speaker 4: But when Tommy has to punt.

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Speaker 3: I remember having this conversation with Shane Lackler many many

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Speaker 3: years ago, and he literally broke down stadium after stadium

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Speaker 3: of how he wanted to punt the ball in particular stadiums.

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Speaker 4: Sure it was incredible to listen to.

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Speaker 3: So playing back home where he's played before, do you

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Speaker 3: think that is a little bit of an advantage that

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Speaker 3: he kind of knows wind patterns whether and all that

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Speaker 3: kind of stuff.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I do.

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Speaker 6: I think he's gonna have at least going into it,

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Speaker 6: like I said. And if I'll backtrack again, like things

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Speaker 6: are gonna change, you know, it's gonna the soun's gonna

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Speaker 6: go down more. I think it's supposed to be cloudy anyways,

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Speaker 6: but whether wind picks up, et cetera, things are gonna

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Speaker 6: evolve and you kind of adjust on the fly and

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Speaker 6: the best ones do. But no, he's gonna have a

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Speaker 6: go in with general tendencies of what a ten to

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Speaker 6: fifteen mile an hour colder, windy day would be right then,

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Speaker 6: you know, so.

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Speaker 4: We're going in.

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Speaker 6: We've already talked about that and excited for him to

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Speaker 6: you know, for us to get a chance to go

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Speaker 6: in there. We lost these guys in their house the

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Speaker 6: first time. And the bottom line is, you know what

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Speaker 6: adjustments can we make? You know, things that we did well,

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Speaker 6: can we do them better? Can we sweep the corners

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Speaker 6: of some details that maybe we need to be better at.

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Speaker 6: And it's just such a such an awesome opportunity for

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Speaker 6: us as a as a team.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely one more for you, sure tell the listeners your

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Speaker 1: pregame sort of routine day of Does that change from

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Speaker 1: time to time? Are you like a player and I

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Speaker 1: got to do this, this and this to get ready

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Speaker 1: for a game.

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Speaker 4: How do you handle a coach man? Uh, it's not

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Speaker 4: about me, I don't.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 6: I think I think for for for everybody, routine is important.

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Speaker 6: I wake up every game day road his earlier schedule

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Speaker 6: because we get on the bus, you know, so nice

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Speaker 6: scoop of pre workout, hit the gym, uh protein shake,

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Speaker 6: go back shower, get all dressed up, pick up your

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Speaker 6: hotel room. And then I do eat the same meal

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Speaker 6: on pregames.

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Speaker 4: I like to I like a light, like a light meal.

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Speaker 6: I like to be uh maybe a little topped off

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Speaker 6: with a little coffee and uh not that you need it.

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Speaker 7: I like to be.

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Speaker 4: I like to feel like light. Do you feel light?

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Speaker 1: Do you find like the workout before helps clear your

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Speaker 1: head a little bit keeps you calm and away?

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Speaker 4: Not even it's not even from my head.

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Speaker 6: It's for like my bot, like I get a little bit, well,

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Speaker 6: you guys can imagine little twitch.

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Speaker 4: I run a little bit, no punchy, no run a

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Speaker 4: little high.

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Speaker 7: So I need to.

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Speaker 4: I need to start sweating a little bit, you know,

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Speaker 4: but got to, got to. So yeah, that's been a

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Speaker 4: necessity for me.

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Speaker 7: For a while.

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Speaker 4: Coach likes a love for joining us. Good luck.

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Speaker 1: Let's go, man, thank you, Let's go, guys. All right there,

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Speaker 1: he is super fired up. Frank Ross can't wait to

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Speaker 1: watch special teams, offense, defense, all of it.

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Speaker 4: Saturday at three thirty.

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Speaker 1: Coming up, We've got Houston Methodist Minutes Sports Psychology. The

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Speaker 1: topic this can help you in anything, public speaking, anything

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Speaker 1: you do where you feel the pressure. You want to

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Speaker 1: hear this next segment, and then Johnny and I will

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Speaker 1: go over some of the big questions of the week.

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Speaker 1: Later on in hour number two, Will Anderson Junior and

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Speaker 1: JJ Watt sit down.

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Speaker 4: This is a CBS interview. You're gonna hear the whole thing.

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Speaker 1: Dan pastoridi quarterback to the Oilers, to the very first

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Speaker 1: AFC Championship game and second in the history of this city.

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Speaker 1: Let's talk to him about how he sees these Texans

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Speaker 1: and he'll reflect on the history of the situation. It's

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Speaker 1: all coming up here on Texans All Access. All right,

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Speaker 1: let's hit this now on Texans Radio. Mark VanderMeer with you.

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Speaker 1: We do Houston Methodist Minutes on Thursday nights. And this

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Speaker 1: is a real special topic that's going to apply to

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Speaker 1: you no matter what you do, whether it's publicly speak,

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Speaker 1: you have a presentation to do in a meeting, or

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Speaker 1: you're a professional athlete. It's sports psychology and the psychology

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Speaker 1: that deals with the pressure you feel in certain situations.

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Speaker 1: And doctor Alicia Robashow is outstanding at this, so let's

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Speaker 1: catch up with her now on the topic. Doctor, how's

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Speaker 1: it going.

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Speaker 8: It's going fabulous, happy days, there.

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Speaker 1: Be days in the playoffs here. Well, let's talk about

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Speaker 1: sports psychology and how convenient because here we are with

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Speaker 1: playoff pressure going on, and I wanted to start here.

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Speaker 1: When somebody has a pressure situation, let's just go sports.

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Speaker 1: It could be anything, could be public speaking, what happens

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Speaker 1: physically to the person, because I got to think it's

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Speaker 1: not just mental. You have a physical result of whatever

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Speaker 1: pressure you're feeling. If you do let it get to you,

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Speaker 1: what light can you shet on that?

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Speaker 8: So absolutely, it's a physical response, just like we used

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Speaker 8: to talk about in school, the flight or fight response.

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Speaker 8: So you're adrenaline gets going, you might start sweating, your

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Speaker 8: gut shuts down. Everything is trying to save you from

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Speaker 8: that lion that used to be chasing you. So it's

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Speaker 8: a very similar response when you get into a nerve

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Speaker 8: wrecking situation, whether it is sports, or whether it is

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Speaker 8: a performance, or it is talking in front of people,

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Speaker 8: and you know your gut shuts down, you're not hungry,

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Speaker 8: and you might start wedding. The hair on your neck

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Speaker 8: might stand up, all that pilo erection, and our heart

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Speaker 8: rate may go up, your vessels and your eyes may constrict.

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Speaker 8: So all of those things are very medical processes. There

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Speaker 8: are different things that we do to control those, to

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Speaker 8: keep our breathing more shallows so we don't feel like

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Speaker 8: our heart is racing, and then we can attend to

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Speaker 8: that task that makes us so nervous, hopefully without everybody

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Speaker 8: else seeing all those responses.

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Speaker 1: What about mentally, what you could do? You mentioned the breathing,

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Speaker 1: so that's a physical thing. Do you encourage visualization of

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Speaker 1: something positive outcome? How do you handle that with patients

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Speaker 1: who are trying to overcome fear, anxiety, whatever, as they

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Speaker 1: publicly speak, sports, whatever the case may be.

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Speaker 8: Absolutely, I've always been a supporter of visualization when I

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Speaker 8: was a gymnast. We used to visualize all of our

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Speaker 8: routines before we would go and compete, and so I

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Speaker 8: definitely talk to people about visualizing their golf swinger visual

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Speaker 8: hitting at the bat, you know, and just being ready

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Speaker 8: or looking as your outpends and the oline position, looking

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Speaker 8: up as you would see the players in front of you.

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Speaker 8: Where is your quarterback, Where are you're supposed to go,

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Speaker 8: where is your route if you're giving a talk, if

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Speaker 8: you're supposed to be doing something, if you're dancing, you know,

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Speaker 8: looking out into the crowd, making visual contact, but not

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Speaker 8: necessarily looking at anybody in particular. The visualization is a

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Speaker 8: really good practice of how you can see yourself in

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Speaker 8: the action before it actually happens. Usually, if you're a

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Speaker 8: good visualizer, that heart rate might also go up a

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Speaker 8: little bit, that pilo erection, and the hair on your

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Speaker 8: neck may stand up, and you can work through that

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Speaker 8: visualization to calm down the body's response to that stressor

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Speaker 8: if you do it enough, then it really gets to

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Speaker 8: the point where it doesn't seem to make you overreact

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Speaker 8: or feel like those responses are happening at all. If

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Speaker 8: you can do those things before the event, it's definitely

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Speaker 8: a great thing. Calming things down, putting yourself in a

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Speaker 8: nice mental state when you're approaching the thing that makes

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Speaker 8: you so overwhelmed really does work to get your body

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Speaker 8: to cooperate the way you want to. It's not perfect,

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Speaker 8: but it does take some practice.

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Speaker 1: Do you utilize or encourage hypnosis for patients in sports

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Speaker 1: psychology matters?

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Speaker 8: Sometimes? Yes, we You know, we've looked at hypnosis for

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Speaker 8: smoking sessation, alcohol sessation, gambling sensation, so why not sports?

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Speaker 8: Sports can be an addictive behavior or a conditioned response.

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Speaker 8: We get excited, we get you know, adrenaline running, you know,

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Speaker 8: So hypnosis when that adrenaline is destructive, can also be

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Speaker 8: a very positive thing to make sure that as the

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Speaker 8: body gets excited, you've been mentally trained on your subconscious

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Speaker 8: to calm down that response so that you can attack

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Speaker 8: it in a calmer way. The other big thing is,

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Speaker 8: sometimes besides hypnosis, the the positive thinking. All of the

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Speaker 8: mumbo jumbo that we do of I'm good enough, I'm

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Speaker 8: smart enough, and I'm here for the action. Those things

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Speaker 8: work well along with hypnosis because that's positive reaffirmations that

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Speaker 8: get into the psyche underneath everything that help us attack

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Speaker 8: with a calmer mental state.

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Speaker 1: So affirmations, do you help patients come up with them?

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Speaker 1: Do you encourage them to come up with their own

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Speaker 1: do you go to a book to try to get

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Speaker 1: some How does it work with affirmations.

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Speaker 8: Probably a little bit of everything. Normally in the office,

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Speaker 8: I kind of talked to patients about, Okay, what are

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Speaker 8: we afraid of? What is our biggest fear? And so

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Speaker 8: the biggest thing about affirmations is you don't do them

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Speaker 8: in a negative fashion. I will not fall off the beam. No, No,

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Speaker 8: that's the wrong way. Negative is not the way we go.

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Speaker 8: We definitely attack it in a positive manner. I will

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Speaker 8: stay on the beam. I will hit the ball out

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Speaker 8: until left field. I will run past the base and

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Speaker 8: not get tagged. I will be fast and swift. I

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Speaker 8: will attack this surgery with good, precise, accurate hands, you know.

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Speaker 8: So all of those things are a positive way to

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Speaker 8: look at it. So we look at the fears, We

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Speaker 8: look at the distractors. What makes you feel distracted. Oh

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Speaker 8: there's people in the audience. Oh there's pressure from my parents.

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Speaker 8: Oh there's money on this on the line, you know.

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Speaker 8: So we try and move away those distracting thoughts by

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Speaker 8: having positive affirmation statements that cause those thoughts to kind

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Speaker 8: of push back lower on the list, so they're not

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Speaker 8: at the forefront of the mind.

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Speaker 1: Great information, doctor, Thanks so much for joining us.

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Speaker 8: Absolutely anytime.

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Speaker 1: Right, there's doctor Alicia Robis show from Houston Methodist on

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Speaker 1: sports psychology and for all things related to Houston Methodist.

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Speaker 1: Log out to Houston Methodist dot org. It's the official

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Speaker 1: healthcare provider of the Houston Texans. Houston Methodist leading Medicine.

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Speaker 4: All right.

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Speaker 1: Coming up on the program, Dan Pastorini, He's in the

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Speaker 1: next hour. He quarterback to the Oilers to back to

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Speaker 1: back AFC championship games in the late seventies. That's the

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Speaker 1: last time the city of Houston has been able to

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Speaker 1: enjoy an AFC championship game. How did they break through?

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Speaker 1: And what does he think of these Texans.

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Speaker 4: We'll get to that.

868
00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:10,640
Speaker 1: Will Anderson Junior and JJ Watts sit down for CBS.

869
00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:12,280
Speaker 4: You're going to hear that whole conversation.

870
00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:14,360
Speaker 1: It was prior to the playoff game against the Chargers,

871
00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:16,960
Speaker 1: but it's timeless stuff and you definitely want to know

872
00:46:17,239 --> 00:46:20,680
Speaker 1: what those guys have to say about the postseason and

873
00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:22,960
Speaker 1: they talk to each other about pass rush moves, its

874
00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:27,279
Speaker 1: audio gold. Also coming up on the program, Johnny and

875
00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:30,000
Speaker 1: I go over some of the big questions or even

876
00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:33,719
Speaker 1: little questions related to the Texans and Chiefs at Arrowhead

877
00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:37,000
Speaker 1: this Saturday, and other stuff going on around the NFL.

878
00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:40,839
Speaker 1: It's all happening next. It's Texans Radio. It's our two

879
00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:43,759
Speaker 1: of our program tonight. No Thursday Night football, but we've

880
00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:47,000
Speaker 1: got football talk in advance of the Texans taking on

881
00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:49,719
Speaker 1: the Chiefs Saturday at three point thirty. We've had a

882
00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:53,680
Speaker 1: lot of stuff already tonight. John McClain was on, Frank Ross,

883
00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:56,600
Speaker 1: special teams coordinator was on, and we will have that

884
00:46:56,640 --> 00:47:00,720
Speaker 1: available via podcast soon enough for you. In this hour,

885
00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:04,160
Speaker 1: you're gonna hear Will Anderson Junior being interviewed by JJ

886
00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:06,400
Speaker 1: Watt for the NFL Today on CBS. This is a

887
00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:10,400
Speaker 1: great talk that's coming up. And also Dan Pastorini, oiler

888
00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:13,880
Speaker 1: quarterback great who talks about the first time Houston broke

889
00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:16,759
Speaker 1: through to the AFC Championship game in nineteen seventy eight.

890
00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:20,399
Speaker 1: Plus he checked out the game against the Chargers from

891
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:23,480
Speaker 1: the McNair suite, the Founder Suite last week. He has

892
00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:26,319
Speaker 1: thoughts on CJ. Stroud, et cetera. But Johnny Harris is here,

893
00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:28,600
Speaker 1: and Johnny, I've got questions, You've got answers.

894
00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:29,279
Speaker 4: Are you ready to go?

895
00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:29,520
Speaker 2: Oh?

896
00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:31,480
Speaker 4: Okay, I always like when you said that. All right,

897
00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:32,920
Speaker 4: so here we go. We got some questions.

898
00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:35,680
Speaker 1: It's not really more likely to happen or who's better,

899
00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:37,719
Speaker 1: but it's kind of a compilation of this guy.

900
00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:39,240
Speaker 4: Here we go. Here we got more.

901
00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:45,839
Speaker 1: Intimidating place to play Arrowhead Stadium, Minnesota for others. Give

902
00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:48,120
Speaker 1: me your thoughts, because I think you have a way

903
00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:50,279
Speaker 1: better perspective on this than I do, because I'm in

904
00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:52,440
Speaker 1: the booth that I got a headset on, and sometimes

905
00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:53,680
Speaker 1: it's hard for me to hear. I know you have

906
00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:55,960
Speaker 1: a headset on too, but you're down on the field

907
00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:58,399
Speaker 1: close to the players, so you get a real good

908
00:47:58,640 --> 00:48:02,080
Speaker 1: feel for what is intimidating as an environment. Is it

909
00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:04,239
Speaker 1: Arrowhead over all others? And I know the team has

910
00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:05,840
Speaker 1: a great deal to do with this, But what are

911
00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:06,400
Speaker 1: your thoughts?

912
00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:08,200
Speaker 4: M and T Bank Stadium.

913
00:48:08,600 --> 00:48:10,960
Speaker 3: That's the one. That's the one, and and I don't

914
00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:13,440
Speaker 3: know if it's just Minnesota. By the way, kids, No,

915
00:48:13,520 --> 00:48:16,880
Speaker 3: that's oh, that's raven. That's Baltimore. Yeah, what's what's Minnesota?

916
00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:21,720
Speaker 3: That's another bank, a US bank. Now, now Minnesota is tough.

917
00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:25,560
Speaker 3: I mean it's really tough. I think, you know, part

918
00:48:25,600 --> 00:48:27,480
Speaker 3: of it just has to do with the style of

919
00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:31,359
Speaker 3: play to for the Ravens. The fans feed off of that.

920
00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:35,080
Speaker 3: I just I thought about this the other day. Remember

921
00:48:35,080 --> 00:48:39,359
Speaker 3: when Lamar tweeted out, thanks Baltimore, I'll see you when

922
00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:41,879
Speaker 3: I see you, and then three days later you got

923
00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:44,040
Speaker 3: a contract and now he's gonna be the MVP again.

924
00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:45,680
Speaker 4: Seemingly I'd vote for him again.

925
00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:53,000
Speaker 3: It's I think that place is just everything that is intimidating.

926
00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:54,840
Speaker 3: As soon as you walk in there, it's that purple

927
00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:58,439
Speaker 3: and gold and you're just reminded of that defense back

928
00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:01,839
Speaker 3: in the two thousands, and you know, Hellodi Nada, just

929
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:06,000
Speaker 3: how physical they are in everything they do, and that

930
00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:10,279
Speaker 3: crowds who just kind of feeds off it. So I

931
00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:16,360
Speaker 3: think it's MT Bank Stadium. Now, Arrowhead's tough, but Arrowhead,

932
00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:20,400
Speaker 3: it's the right way of saying this. They're not front runners,

933
00:49:20,680 --> 00:49:25,320
Speaker 3: but if they're not leading in a game, they go.

934
00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:28,160
Speaker 4: Very quiet, oh very quiet.

935
00:49:28,600 --> 00:49:31,160
Speaker 3: And when we played them in the playoff game in

936
00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:36,360
Speaker 3: nineteen obviously January twenty twenty. They were dead, silent, like

937
00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:39,279
Speaker 3: they were dead. They were out of the game completely.

938
00:49:40,040 --> 00:49:43,279
Speaker 3: And then Miko Harbon ran back to kickoff and then

939
00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:45,919
Speaker 3: Kelsey scored the first time, and it was like they

940
00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:49,800
Speaker 3: woke up and you can leave them in a slumber.

941
00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:52,279
Speaker 3: I feel like M ANDT Bank Stadium is on a

942
00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:57,040
Speaker 3: constant buzz the whole game, and when they scow. I

943
00:49:57,040 --> 00:50:00,120
Speaker 3: remember when they when the mar scored on the the

944
00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:04,239
Speaker 3: quarterback draw to make it seventeen ten in the playoff game,

945
00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:05,040
Speaker 3: I was.

946
00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:09,280
Speaker 4: Like, oh no, you could just feel them the crowd.

947
00:50:09,320 --> 00:50:11,080
Speaker 4: You can just feel it, like, oh, I was on

948
00:50:11,120 --> 00:50:11,600
Speaker 4: top of you.

949
00:50:11,680 --> 00:50:14,160
Speaker 3: So we've never won there, and that also adds to

950
00:50:14,280 --> 00:50:16,560
Speaker 3: we at least one to Kansas City a few times. Yeah,

951
00:50:16,600 --> 00:50:18,600
Speaker 3: you know, we've broken through there a few times, so

952
00:50:18,680 --> 00:50:22,880
Speaker 3: it doesn't feel as intimidating. I guess Minnesota's tough, but

953
00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:27,080
Speaker 3: I don't. I just think we've played poorly there a

954
00:50:27,120 --> 00:50:31,200
Speaker 3: couple of times that we've gone there in this past one.

955
00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:34,439
Speaker 3: It just all snowballed. But it's a tough place to play,

956
00:50:34,440 --> 00:50:37,480
Speaker 3: don't get me wrong, But other teams have figured it out. Baltimore,

957
00:50:37,640 --> 00:50:40,160
Speaker 3: very few people have figured it out. Kansas City, very

958
00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:42,439
Speaker 3: few people have figured it out. So I would say Mt.

959
00:50:42,560 --> 00:50:43,759
Speaker 3: Bank won Arrowhead two.

960
00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:47,000
Speaker 1: Okay, next question, And by the way, I just feel

961
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:49,799
Speaker 1: like Arrowhead when you stand on the field before the game.

962
00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:54,840
Speaker 4: It feels intimidating. It's so tight. It's so tight to

963
00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:55,480
Speaker 4: the field.

964
00:50:55,680 --> 00:50:59,120
Speaker 3: Those far corners, the corners of the yellow, they're very

965
00:50:59,160 --> 00:50:59,719
Speaker 3: close close.

966
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:03,920
Speaker 1: There's very one tunnel, right, yeah, yeah, there's only one tunnel,

967
00:51:03,920 --> 00:51:09,239
Speaker 1: which makes it very close and literally and I don't know.

968
00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:10,239
Speaker 4: It just has that feel to me.

969
00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:13,200
Speaker 1: Okay, Next one X Factor Player of the Week for

970
00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:15,719
Speaker 1: the Texans. You get to pick among these and then

971
00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:18,960
Speaker 1: give me yours. If it's not one of these X himself.

972
00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:27,080
Speaker 1: That's Xavier Hutchinson, Tiagan Coutoriano Oo, Miles Bryant or Neville Hewitt.

973
00:51:27,080 --> 00:51:29,120
Speaker 1: You get to pick among those four the X Factor.

974
00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:33,040
Speaker 1: Somebody's gonna make a big play. Who's not a household name.

975
00:51:33,080 --> 00:51:35,560
Speaker 1: Necessarily we know all these guys, we know their names,

976
00:51:35,560 --> 00:51:37,239
Speaker 1: and I know the listeners know their names. But I'm

977
00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:39,600
Speaker 1: just talking about somebody who doesn't get that Pro Bowl

978
00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:43,440
Speaker 1: kind of ink. And here they are making a huge

979
00:51:43,480 --> 00:51:46,520
Speaker 1: play in a historic win for the Houston Texans X

980
00:51:46,520 --> 00:51:47,560
Speaker 1: Factor Player of the Week.

981
00:51:47,680 --> 00:51:51,120
Speaker 4: Who is it? I really want to say Xavier Hutchinson.

982
00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:53,719
Speaker 3: I just feel like, you know last week that the

983
00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:55,960
Speaker 3: big play of thirty four yards. I mean, that's just

984
00:51:56,360 --> 00:51:59,560
Speaker 3: a touch being a ballplayer. Obviously CJ doing, you know,

985
00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:02,480
Speaker 3: putting the cape onna being Superman and making that play.

986
00:52:02,960 --> 00:52:05,480
Speaker 3: But it's hutch finding a way to make a big

987
00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:07,680
Speaker 3: play he had. He had a big play in the

988
00:52:07,680 --> 00:52:10,680
Speaker 3: game against Green Bay and didn't get the team, didn't

989
00:52:10,719 --> 00:52:11,920
Speaker 3: get rewarded.

990
00:52:12,040 --> 00:52:14,360
Speaker 4: But they won that game. We'd be talking about that.

991
00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:17,960
Speaker 3: Cat of forever and this we'll be talking about this

992
00:52:18,040 --> 00:52:24,239
Speaker 3: one forever. And because you have unknowns in the receiving

993
00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:28,600
Speaker 3: room right now, obviously Robert Woods this week not participating

994
00:52:28,640 --> 00:52:32,400
Speaker 3: in practice is a little concerning. So somebody's got to

995
00:52:32,440 --> 00:52:34,279
Speaker 3: step up in that pass catching group. And in fact,

996
00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:37,719
Speaker 3: I said on in the lab that my cream of

997
00:52:37,719 --> 00:52:40,880
Speaker 3: the crop player, the player that has to play well, actually.

998
00:52:40,680 --> 00:52:41,080
Speaker 7: Is a group.

999
00:52:41,600 --> 00:52:44,160
Speaker 4: It's the receiver group not named Nico Collins.

1000
00:52:44,320 --> 00:52:46,880
Speaker 3: Yea, that means x So I'm gonna go with the

1001
00:52:46,880 --> 00:52:50,040
Speaker 3: guy that I thought originally and that you mentioned, that's

1002
00:52:50,160 --> 00:52:50,920
Speaker 3: Xavier Hutchinson.

1003
00:52:51,080 --> 00:52:53,720
Speaker 4: Okay, Xavier Hutchinson is your X factor player.

1004
00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:54,160
Speaker 7: Yep.

1005
00:52:54,480 --> 00:52:55,919
Speaker 4: I think it's gonna be interesting here.

1006
00:52:56,000 --> 00:52:59,600
Speaker 1: We'll see about Teagan Andrew Battate Stover one of post

1007
00:52:59,600 --> 00:53:01,880
Speaker 1: two guys, if not both, they have to step up.

1008
00:53:01,920 --> 00:53:03,319
Speaker 3: So we'll see how one of them is gonna make

1009
00:53:03,320 --> 00:53:05,239
Speaker 3: a big play. I'm convinced of that one of them

1010
00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:07,480
Speaker 3: is gonna make a big play. But I just feel

1011
00:53:07,480 --> 00:53:10,000
Speaker 3: like hutch has got to be a little bit more

1012
00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:12,239
Speaker 3: involved in the offense in some way, shape or form.

1013
00:53:12,280 --> 00:53:13,480
Speaker 3: You know, last year they used to give it to

1014
00:53:13,520 --> 00:53:16,160
Speaker 3: him one reverses and jet sweeps and all that, and

1015
00:53:16,200 --> 00:53:17,839
Speaker 3: they haven't done that this year with him.

1016
00:53:17,920 --> 00:53:21,080
Speaker 4: So and I don't know why you need something, They're

1017
00:53:21,080 --> 00:53:22,040
Speaker 4: gonna need something different.

1018
00:53:22,080 --> 00:53:25,440
Speaker 1: There's gonna be a wrinkl er two because especially with

1019
00:53:25,520 --> 00:53:27,759
Speaker 1: the health of Woods going into the week, and then

1020
00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:30,880
Speaker 1: you look at obviously you're depleted already at wide receiver,

1021
00:53:31,200 --> 00:53:33,760
Speaker 1: no cats Over. They are going to show you something

1022
00:53:33,760 --> 00:53:35,000
Speaker 1: you haven't seen because they have to.

1023
00:53:35,080 --> 00:53:35,400
Speaker 4: They have to.

1024
00:53:35,600 --> 00:53:37,560
Speaker 1: They have to show you something you have to see.

1025
00:53:37,600 --> 00:53:39,080
Speaker 1: We'll give me a guy on defense, though.

1026
00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:42,040
Speaker 3: I like your Miles ryot one because I can think

1027
00:53:42,080 --> 00:53:46,359
Speaker 3: that Miles Miles is a natural cover guy. Now, he's

1028
00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:48,480
Speaker 3: a playmaker and he can play a lot of different spots,

1029
00:53:48,880 --> 00:53:51,080
Speaker 3: but he's a natural cover guy, so I think he

1030
00:53:51,120 --> 00:53:54,239
Speaker 3: can cover a little bit better on some of the

1031
00:53:54,280 --> 00:53:58,080
Speaker 3: interior routes. Now, when you're covering Hollywood, Brown and Exam,

1032
00:53:58,120 --> 00:54:00,200
Speaker 3: you're worthy, they're gonna be faster than anybody you got.

1033
00:54:00,880 --> 00:54:04,000
Speaker 3: But if you could just be close, just kind of

1034
00:54:04,040 --> 00:54:08,040
Speaker 3: stay in the vicinity that a three yard catch make

1035
00:54:08,080 --> 00:54:08,640
Speaker 3: a tackle.

1036
00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:12,360
Speaker 4: It's a three yard catch. Three can't turn into nine.

1037
00:54:12,440 --> 00:54:14,640
Speaker 3: And that seemed to happen a couple of times, especially

1038
00:54:14,640 --> 00:54:18,200
Speaker 3: with Hollywood an Xavier in the first matchup. Neither one

1039
00:54:18,200 --> 00:54:20,200
Speaker 3: of them did you know down the field stuff. In fact,

1040
00:54:20,200 --> 00:54:23,279
Speaker 3: Mahomes missed them down the field. But when he hit

1041
00:54:23,320 --> 00:54:26,120
Speaker 3: him with those kind of flat routes, little snag routes

1042
00:54:26,160 --> 00:54:28,680
Speaker 3: and let them catch it two, turn it to seven,

1043
00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:30,479
Speaker 3: catch it four, turn it to nine.

1044
00:54:30,840 --> 00:54:33,040
Speaker 4: Those are your killers. And that's what you can't do.

1045
00:54:33,080 --> 00:54:34,960
Speaker 3: And that's where I think Miles comes in, making those

1046
00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:38,359
Speaker 3: tackles and those stops right where the ball is caught.

1047
00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:41,359
Speaker 3: And I think he's a better natural cover guy than

1048
00:54:41,400 --> 00:54:44,040
Speaker 3: any of the Nickels, including Jalen, including Jimmy. I think

1049
00:54:44,040 --> 00:54:46,400
Speaker 3: he'd be a better cover guy in that realm. So

1050
00:54:46,440 --> 00:54:48,279
Speaker 3: that's gonna give him some opportunity. And I guarantee you

1051
00:54:48,280 --> 00:54:49,960
Speaker 3: the Chiefs are going to try and target him, but

1052
00:54:50,040 --> 00:54:52,560
Speaker 3: that's fine. You know, he's the nickel. That's fine target

1053
00:54:52,600 --> 00:54:55,960
Speaker 3: him because he can also make plays. That's what he's

1054
00:54:55,960 --> 00:54:58,560
Speaker 3: known for ever since I remember first seeing him with

1055
00:54:58,760 --> 00:55:03,080
Speaker 3: Washington University up he made plays. And that's what this

1056
00:55:03,200 --> 00:55:08,440
Speaker 3: game takes. Because the Chiefs have always against the Texans

1057
00:55:08,440 --> 00:55:13,120
Speaker 3: and other teams as well. It's the dirty Dan Sorenson,

1058
00:55:13,480 --> 00:55:19,000
Speaker 3: it's Ben Nieman, It's Chris Rowland Wallace this year, the rookie.

1059
00:55:19,200 --> 00:55:21,640
Speaker 3: You know, it's those kind of guys that aren't the

1060
00:55:21,719 --> 00:55:26,880
Speaker 3: Chris Jones, Nick Bolton's, Carl loftis Is. It's the other guys.

1061
00:55:26,880 --> 00:55:29,080
Speaker 3: It's the unknowns. It's the guys that, you know, the

1062
00:55:29,280 --> 00:55:32,600
Speaker 3: X factor guys. Our X factor guys have to out

1063
00:55:32,760 --> 00:55:34,640
Speaker 3: X factor they're X factor guys.

1064
00:55:34,640 --> 00:55:35,640
Speaker 4: Does that make sense? Yes?

1065
00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:37,880
Speaker 1: Okay, no, I think it's a great way to put it,

1066
00:55:38,120 --> 00:55:41,479
Speaker 1: because you have to have those unsung types to perform well,

1067
00:55:41,600 --> 00:55:46,960
Speaker 1: perform at a high level. All right over, under takeaways.

1068
00:55:48,360 --> 00:55:49,279
Speaker 4: What it needs to be.

1069
00:55:50,520 --> 00:55:55,480
Speaker 1: Are you gonna it's you. You need it at least once,

1070
00:55:56,040 --> 00:55:57,160
Speaker 1: and you've got to play clean.

1071
00:55:57,239 --> 00:55:57,520
Speaker 7: All right.

1072
00:55:57,800 --> 00:55:59,680
Speaker 1: Let me let me put it this way. You got

1073
00:55:59,680 --> 00:56:01,640
Speaker 1: to be at least plus one in this game.

1074
00:56:01,800 --> 00:56:03,640
Speaker 4: Yes, I don't think at a minimum.

1075
00:56:03,920 --> 00:56:07,520
Speaker 1: I know that they've been close in other situations and

1076
00:56:07,600 --> 00:56:10,319
Speaker 1: they've actually won the turnover battle and not come out

1077
00:56:10,320 --> 00:56:15,360
Speaker 1: on top in games, but not all those games. But

1078
00:56:15,360 --> 00:56:17,080
Speaker 1: but I feel like you got to be at least

1079
00:56:17,080 --> 00:56:18,919
Speaker 1: plus one in this game. You've got to at least

1080
00:56:18,920 --> 00:56:24,560
Speaker 1: by yourself a good, nice possession in their territory. A

1081
00:56:24,600 --> 00:56:28,200
Speaker 1: freebe a bonus possession. Got to get it can't just

1082
00:56:28,200 --> 00:56:30,640
Speaker 1: be a stop of a drive. It has to be

1083
00:56:30,800 --> 00:56:32,560
Speaker 1: I got the possession of their territory.

1084
00:56:32,640 --> 00:56:34,359
Speaker 3: So when I want to do I know your faux

1085
00:56:34,480 --> 00:56:36,720
Speaker 3: article for this week, which is posted at Houston Texas

1086
00:56:36,719 --> 00:56:39,040
Speaker 3: dot com, go check it out. I give you my

1087
00:56:39,760 --> 00:56:43,399
Speaker 3: condensed Mahomes rules, so you can check those out as well.

1088
00:56:44,080 --> 00:56:46,120
Speaker 3: I also, when I go through and I do some

1089
00:56:46,160 --> 00:56:48,160
Speaker 3: stats in there to kind of give you out, just

1090
00:56:48,239 --> 00:56:50,000
Speaker 3: kind of an outline of what the team has done.

1091
00:56:50,440 --> 00:56:53,239
Speaker 3: And I got was able to do a lot of

1092
00:56:53,239 --> 00:56:55,240
Speaker 3: cut and paste because it was not that long ago.

1093
00:56:55,920 --> 00:57:00,960
Speaker 3: But the stats and everything are changed except one. Offensive

1094
00:57:00,960 --> 00:57:03,840
Speaker 3: turnovers for the Chiefs have not changed since week fifteen.

1095
00:57:05,000 --> 00:57:08,279
Speaker 3: They've not turned the ball over from our game Steelers

1096
00:57:08,640 --> 00:57:11,919
Speaker 3: Broncos three games they've not turned it over, So now

1097
00:57:12,000 --> 00:57:14,440
Speaker 3: the Broncos game is a little different. But even in

1098
00:57:14,480 --> 00:57:17,400
Speaker 3: a game which Carson Wentz started, they did not turn.

1099
00:57:17,240 --> 00:57:19,560
Speaker 4: The ball over, but they lost horribly.

1100
00:57:19,800 --> 00:57:24,200
Speaker 3: They over, Yeah, they turned the ball over. They then

1101
00:57:25,320 --> 00:57:27,560
Speaker 3: I'm trying to remember what number was. It went from

1102
00:57:27,600 --> 00:57:30,720
Speaker 3: like sixteen to twenty been. They've been plus four in

1103
00:57:30,760 --> 00:57:33,280
Speaker 3: the last three games, So you have to flip that.

1104
00:57:33,360 --> 00:57:35,120
Speaker 3: Not that you can be plus four, but you have

1105
00:57:35,160 --> 00:57:39,040
Speaker 3: to at least at least be plus one and then

1106
00:57:39,280 --> 00:57:41,720
Speaker 3: hopefully it's more than that, but you have to be

1107
00:57:41,800 --> 00:57:45,480
Speaker 3: plus one and your number has to be zero.

1108
00:57:45,880 --> 00:57:47,120
Speaker 4: You can't turn it over.

1109
00:57:47,200 --> 00:57:53,680
Speaker 3: You cannot give Patrick Mahomes, an experienced offense, additional possessions.

1110
00:57:53,720 --> 00:57:57,400
Speaker 3: And there's more ways to look at that other than

1111
00:57:58,400 --> 00:58:00,880
Speaker 3: and you can pile them up. You can't allow him

1112
00:58:00,920 --> 00:58:04,720
Speaker 3: to have third down and ten scrambles for a first down,

1113
00:58:04,880 --> 00:58:07,520
Speaker 3: to keep a first down, to keep a drive alive.

1114
00:58:07,760 --> 00:58:11,160
Speaker 3: You have to take those things away, you know, penalties,

1115
00:58:11,200 --> 00:58:14,840
Speaker 3: those kind of things to give them additional series opportunities,

1116
00:58:14,960 --> 00:58:18,080
Speaker 3: But the biggest thing is getting that extra possession going

1117
00:58:18,200 --> 00:58:18,760
Speaker 3: your way.

1118
00:58:19,160 --> 00:58:20,400
Speaker 4: You have to get one now.

1119
00:58:21,400 --> 00:58:23,080
Speaker 3: The last time we played a playoff game, we tried

1120
00:58:23,080 --> 00:58:26,320
Speaker 3: to steal one at in an opportune time when we

1121
00:58:26,360 --> 00:58:29,200
Speaker 3: probably didn't need it, and we forced it and it

1122
00:58:29,240 --> 00:58:31,280
Speaker 3: cost us. It costs us a big way. With a

1123
00:58:31,320 --> 00:58:34,720
Speaker 3: fake punt. We didn't need it at that point. We

1124
00:58:34,800 --> 00:58:39,240
Speaker 3: needed the possession later, but we forced it didn't happen.

1125
00:58:39,760 --> 00:58:42,000
Speaker 3: So you can't force it. But you got to find

1126
00:58:42,000 --> 00:58:43,960
Speaker 3: a way to steal possession. And it can't be an

1127
00:58:43,960 --> 00:58:47,160
Speaker 3: on site kick, so it could be a fake punt,

1128
00:58:47,280 --> 00:58:50,640
Speaker 3: but mostly defensively, it is go pick the ball off,

1129
00:58:50,880 --> 00:58:55,560
Speaker 3: go scoop and score, Go get a turnover, but then

1130
00:58:55,880 --> 00:58:59,680
Speaker 3: keep mahomes in that offense from converting third and long

1131
00:58:59,720 --> 00:59:04,160
Speaker 3: that Stens drives. That's gonna feel like an additional part

1132
00:59:04,320 --> 00:59:05,400
Speaker 3: of the opportunity.

1133
00:59:05,440 --> 00:59:07,280
Speaker 4: They have got to shut those down.

1134
00:59:07,760 --> 00:59:10,080
Speaker 3: And if you do that, then you've got a good

1135
00:59:10,080 --> 00:59:11,280
Speaker 3: opportunity if you are.

1136
00:59:11,240 --> 00:59:12,720
Speaker 4: Plus one to go win this game.

1137
00:59:12,840 --> 00:59:16,520
Speaker 1: All right, we're gonna zoom away, zoom out here from

1138
00:59:16,520 --> 00:59:18,640
Speaker 1: the Texans game for a moment here as we continue

1139
00:59:18,680 --> 00:59:21,200
Speaker 1: to ask you questions, We've got questions, you've got answers,

1140
00:59:21,760 --> 00:59:24,360
Speaker 1: more wins. This is like a more likely to happen

1141
00:59:24,400 --> 00:59:27,520
Speaker 1: more wins. In twenty twenty five, the Tennessee Titans of

1142
00:59:27,560 --> 00:59:30,760
Speaker 1: the Jacksonville Jaguars as the Titans, and we talked about

1143
00:59:30,800 --> 00:59:33,640
Speaker 1: this with the general search for a general manager, I guess,

1144
00:59:33,920 --> 00:59:36,840
Speaker 1: and the Jacksonville Jaguars search for a head coach. And

1145
00:59:36,920 --> 00:59:39,840
Speaker 1: last year the Jags won four, Titans won three. We

1146
00:59:39,880 --> 00:59:42,680
Speaker 1: saw what the Titans did here at NRG Stadium, So

1147
00:59:42,720 --> 00:59:45,200
Speaker 1: who has more wins in twenty twenty five?

1148
00:59:45,360 --> 00:59:46,040
Speaker 4: Let me ask you a question.

1149
00:59:46,080 --> 00:59:47,720
Speaker 3: I thought about this since we talked to the general,

1150
00:59:49,400 --> 00:59:51,600
Speaker 3: What exactly are the Titans looking for?

1151
00:59:52,840 --> 00:59:52,880
Speaker 1: No?

1152
00:59:53,280 --> 00:59:56,040
Speaker 4: I mean, it's a quote unquote GM, I guess, But

1153
00:59:56,760 --> 00:59:57,120
Speaker 4: is it.

1154
00:59:57,160 --> 00:59:59,760
Speaker 1: Somebody to work with Callahan who he can get along with.

1155
01:00:00,040 --> 01:00:02,840
Speaker 1: They feel like if they really believe in Callahan, who

1156
01:00:02,840 --> 01:00:06,320
Speaker 1: they feel like can make beautiful roster building chemistry with him.

1157
01:00:06,400 --> 01:00:08,960
Speaker 3: But you've got Chad Brinker there who is kind of

1158
01:00:09,080 --> 01:00:13,360
Speaker 3: leading this. But he wants a GM though, But does

1159
01:00:13,400 --> 01:00:15,600
Speaker 3: he want a GM? So you know it would be

1160
01:00:15,600 --> 01:00:18,520
Speaker 3: good for that job. Brian Gaine, it's so pointy to say.

1161
01:00:18,560 --> 01:00:20,760
Speaker 3: I was just thinking of the same thing. But you

1162
01:00:20,800 --> 01:00:22,680
Speaker 3: know as well as I do, Brian Gain does not

1163
01:00:22,720 --> 01:00:23,760
Speaker 3: want to be in that situation.

1164
01:00:23,800 --> 01:00:26,680
Speaker 1: Again, No he doesn't, but he if he got along

1165
01:00:27,040 --> 01:00:30,240
Speaker 1: with Chad Brinker, that would be a good job for him,

1166
01:00:30,320 --> 01:00:32,520
Speaker 1: and because he would be the GM again and he

1167
01:00:32,520 --> 01:00:35,320
Speaker 1: could build himself back up, because as we've talked about,

1168
01:00:35,320 --> 01:00:36,400
Speaker 1: it's really hard to get a.

1169
01:00:36,320 --> 01:00:38,160
Speaker 4: Second shot right as a GM.

1170
01:00:38,280 --> 01:00:41,040
Speaker 1: And I know he's interviewed with the Jets, but going

1171
01:00:41,080 --> 01:00:42,960
Speaker 1: down there, and actually I don't want to see it

1172
01:00:42,960 --> 01:00:44,720
Speaker 1: because I think he is good and I don't want

1173
01:00:44,720 --> 01:00:45,840
Speaker 1: to see him down in Nashville.

1174
01:00:45,880 --> 01:00:49,400
Speaker 3: No, I don't either, But I think the way Brian,

1175
01:00:50,120 --> 01:00:53,400
Speaker 3: Brian's an excellent personnel guy, and so maybe that might

1176
01:00:53,480 --> 01:00:55,720
Speaker 3: be the right way of doing it. That Brian handles

1177
01:00:56,040 --> 01:00:58,800
Speaker 3: the personnel, works with Callahan.

1178
01:00:58,520 --> 01:01:00,280
Speaker 4: On that Leflin Breaker does all the other and.

1179
01:01:00,240 --> 01:01:02,840
Speaker 3: Then Breaker handles all the other infrastructure and all that

1180
01:01:02,880 --> 01:01:04,800
Speaker 3: kind of stuff, And maybe that fits.

1181
01:01:04,840 --> 01:01:06,320
Speaker 4: But I think Brian game would be a good one.

1182
01:01:06,360 --> 01:01:10,360
Speaker 3: So along those lines, I still going with Jacksonville to

1183
01:01:10,400 --> 01:01:13,320
Speaker 3: win more games because I do think that whoever the

1184
01:01:13,360 --> 01:01:16,200
Speaker 3: offensive mind they bring in with their head coach Alvins

1185
01:01:16,240 --> 01:01:19,200
Speaker 3: Cordy whatever right is gonna get a little bit more

1186
01:01:19,320 --> 01:01:23,040
Speaker 3: out of Trevor Lawrence, and you're getting mare to Lawrence,

1187
01:01:23,040 --> 01:01:25,800
Speaker 3: gets some more to Brian Thomas Junior, then they find

1188
01:01:25,800 --> 01:01:27,800
Speaker 3: another piece to go with Brian Thomas Junior. And also

1189
01:01:27,880 --> 01:01:29,800
Speaker 3: your looking like, well, boy, that that offense could be

1190
01:01:29,840 --> 01:01:33,439
Speaker 3: pretty good. Still got Evan Ingram. They still are gonna

1191
01:01:33,440 --> 01:01:35,240
Speaker 3: be pretty good, but they've got to get their offensive

1192
01:01:35,360 --> 01:01:38,120
Speaker 3: act together to be able to do it. But who

1193
01:01:38,160 --> 01:01:40,360
Speaker 3: is in Tennessee as sure as and Will Levis And

1194
01:01:40,320 --> 01:01:43,080
Speaker 3: it ain't Mason Rudolph. So is it gonna be cam Ward?

1195
01:01:43,120 --> 01:01:44,600
Speaker 3: Is it gonna be the rookie? Is it gonna be

1196
01:01:44,640 --> 01:01:45,040
Speaker 3: a rookie?

1197
01:01:45,480 --> 01:01:45,880
Speaker 4: How long?

1198
01:01:45,920 --> 01:01:46,120
Speaker 7: You know?

1199
01:01:46,560 --> 01:01:49,480
Speaker 3: Washington and Houston both showed you can get it done

1200
01:01:49,520 --> 01:01:51,480
Speaker 3: with a rookie early. But you've been have the right one.

1201
01:01:51,560 --> 01:01:53,280
Speaker 3: And I don't think any of the quarterbacks in this

1202
01:01:53,600 --> 01:01:55,000
Speaker 3: draft are the right one.

1203
01:01:55,080 --> 01:01:57,240
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what. And bow Knicks throw him into

1204
01:01:57,280 --> 01:02:00,200
Speaker 1: the mix. Throw Knicks into the mix. You're gonna have

1205
01:02:00,240 --> 01:02:02,760
Speaker 1: a lot of teams reaching on quarterbacks because I feel

1206
01:02:02,800 --> 01:02:05,240
Speaker 1: like this guy could be both Nick CJ. Stroud, Jayde

1207
01:02:05,240 --> 01:02:07,640
Speaker 1: and Daniels. This guy could be that. And you know

1208
01:02:07,720 --> 01:02:09,640
Speaker 1: Drake May, who knows if the team was better, he

1209
01:02:09,720 --> 01:02:12,840
Speaker 1: might have done a lot better. So I just think

1210
01:02:12,880 --> 01:02:15,320
Speaker 1: there's gonna be a lot of reaching more than ever. Yes,

1211
01:02:15,440 --> 01:02:19,120
Speaker 1: with quarterbacks and these guys. Look, Nix is his own

1212
01:02:19,160 --> 01:02:22,040
Speaker 1: category because he's thirty seven years old or whatever. Yeah,

1213
01:02:22,040 --> 01:02:23,920
Speaker 1: and he's out there doing what he did with Denver

1214
01:02:24,320 --> 01:02:29,240
Speaker 1: CJ is amazing. Jayden Daniels is amazing. And I think

1215
01:02:29,320 --> 01:02:31,960
Speaker 1: they've spoiled the party for a lot of teams who

1216
01:02:32,000 --> 01:02:35,080
Speaker 1: are going to get it wrong at drafting a quarterback too.

1217
01:02:35,120 --> 01:02:35,360
Speaker 4: Huh.

1218
01:02:35,360 --> 01:02:39,000
Speaker 3: Absolutely, And most teams get it wrong at quarterback. They

1219
01:02:39,120 --> 01:02:44,440
Speaker 3: get it wrong. But I think what Nicks. It's the

1220
01:02:44,480 --> 01:02:47,640
Speaker 3: selection of Knicks that's gonna have a team, and also

1221
01:02:47,760 --> 01:02:51,080
Speaker 3: the selection of Penis. Pennix won number eight, and I

1222
01:02:51,120 --> 01:02:53,720
Speaker 3: really like Penix. I just didn't see it happening that early.

1223
01:02:53,760 --> 01:02:55,680
Speaker 3: I had Penis in front of Knicks. I didn't have

1224
01:02:55,760 --> 01:02:58,200
Speaker 3: Knicks going til second round because I thought, yeah, he's

1225
01:02:58,200 --> 01:02:59,680
Speaker 3: a little bit older. I don't know if that's gonna

1226
01:02:59,680 --> 01:03:02,480
Speaker 3: sit well. But he jived with Peyton, that is the

1227
01:03:02,520 --> 01:03:03,000
Speaker 3: biggest thing.

1228
01:03:03,440 --> 01:03:04,120
Speaker 4: He's a good coach.

1229
01:03:04,200 --> 01:03:08,040
Speaker 3: Peyton trying to break him and he didn't break and

1230
01:03:08,120 --> 01:03:11,840
Speaker 3: that I think showed Peyton, Okay, this is the guy.

1231
01:03:11,680 --> 01:03:15,040
Speaker 9: He can do this for the theory quarterbacks go ahead,

1232
01:03:15,080 --> 01:03:19,160
Speaker 9: and this is obviously off season talk, no, just the Yeah,

1233
01:03:19,200 --> 01:03:24,720
Speaker 9: the newer crop newer even than the Borough Herbert crop, right, the.

1234
01:03:24,640 --> 01:03:29,000
Speaker 1: Newer crop, I think, all the transferring around it, it's

1235
01:03:29,040 --> 01:03:32,400
Speaker 1: detrimental in some ways, it's helpful in others. They come

1236
01:03:32,440 --> 01:03:36,920
Speaker 1: in already pros in a way. They've taken the nil money,

1237
01:03:37,480 --> 01:03:42,200
Speaker 1: they understand it's a business. They've been conducting themselves as

1238
01:03:42,280 --> 01:03:45,080
Speaker 1: if it's a business. And some of these guys having

1239
01:03:45,080 --> 01:03:48,680
Speaker 1: to learn different systems or something similar. But there's new terminology,

1240
01:03:48,680 --> 01:03:51,000
Speaker 1: whatever the case, whatever Nix has been through and all that,

1241
01:03:51,320 --> 01:03:53,160
Speaker 1: I think that actually helps some of them.

1242
01:03:53,440 --> 01:03:54,280
Speaker 4: And it's gonna be interesting.

1243
01:03:54,400 --> 01:03:57,640
Speaker 1: Somebody's gonna reach on yours, trust me, yes, you know absolutely,

1244
01:03:58,400 --> 01:04:00,400
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna who thought was.

1245
01:04:00,400 --> 01:04:01,200
Speaker 4: Going to do this right?

1246
01:04:01,400 --> 01:04:04,200
Speaker 1: So maybe yours turns out to be pretty decent if

1247
01:04:04,240 --> 01:04:06,840
Speaker 1: he gets into the right situation. I don't know if

1248
01:04:06,880 --> 01:04:10,520
Speaker 1: he's going to get an automatic you're the starter tab, right,

1249
01:04:10,600 --> 01:04:13,560
Speaker 1: but he's going to get something and an opportunity in

1250
01:04:13,560 --> 01:04:16,240
Speaker 1: this league somehow wherever he is drafted, all right, I

1251
01:04:16,240 --> 01:04:18,480
Speaker 1: got another one for you. Okay, I know you're gonna

1252
01:04:18,480 --> 01:04:22,439
Speaker 1: do your predictions tomorrow. And we've talked a bunch about

1253
01:04:22,440 --> 01:04:25,480
Speaker 1: the Texans and the Chiefs, but Ravens, Bills, what are

1254
01:04:25,520 --> 01:04:28,400
Speaker 1: you think in here? What do you think in Big

1255
01:04:28,480 --> 01:04:32,200
Speaker 1: one on Sunday Night? This one feels very.

1256
01:04:32,120 --> 01:04:32,960
Speaker 4: Clear cut to me.

1257
01:04:33,520 --> 01:04:37,720
Speaker 3: Oh, I agree with Miles Garrett. Miles Garrett told LUs

1258
01:04:37,840 --> 01:04:43,080
Speaker 3: Riddick in the production meeting that when Baltimore shows up

1259
01:04:43,840 --> 01:04:47,000
Speaker 3: to play, they are the best team in the league,

1260
01:04:47,040 --> 01:04:47,439
Speaker 3: bar none.

1261
01:04:47,680 --> 01:04:48,120
Speaker 7: I agree.

1262
01:04:48,240 --> 01:04:48,960
Speaker 4: I agree with that.

1263
01:04:49,480 --> 01:04:55,160
Speaker 3: Now better than Detroit, yes, and for this reason, they're

1264
01:04:55,200 --> 01:04:58,800
Speaker 3: healthier than Detroit. Okay, Baltimore's got more of their dudes

1265
01:04:58,840 --> 01:05:01,920
Speaker 3: playing than Detroit has their dudes playing. I mean the

1266
01:05:01,960 --> 01:05:05,000
Speaker 3: number one dude Detroit hasn't played since Week six eight, Hutchinson,

1267
01:05:05,440 --> 01:05:08,000
Speaker 3: so and they've been they've been living without him. Ali

1268
01:05:08,120 --> 01:05:10,880
Speaker 3: McNeil has not been playing, so they've missed out on

1269
01:05:10,920 --> 01:05:13,960
Speaker 3: some of the defensive dudes. Baltimore's not only got their

1270
01:05:13,960 --> 01:05:18,480
Speaker 3: defensive dudes all playing, they're now playing really, really well.

1271
01:05:18,880 --> 01:05:22,600
Speaker 3: And I think that ends up being a bigger factor

1272
01:05:22,640 --> 01:05:25,160
Speaker 3: in this one. Even though they're playing at Buffalo and

1273
01:05:25,280 --> 01:05:27,640
Speaker 3: Josh can can cape up and keep them in it.

1274
01:05:28,280 --> 01:05:31,360
Speaker 3: I just don't know how Buffalo is going to consistently

1275
01:05:31,440 --> 01:05:35,400
Speaker 3: stop Derrick Henry and then okay, we stopped Derick Henry

1276
01:05:35,440 --> 01:05:37,400
Speaker 3: and then all of a sudden, Lamar goes for fifty.

1277
01:05:37,360 --> 01:05:39,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, so left Tan don't get you to the right

1278
01:05:39,680 --> 01:05:40,080
Speaker 4: hand will.

1279
01:05:40,120 --> 01:05:43,880
Speaker 3: I just feel like Baltimore goes in there and does

1280
01:05:43,920 --> 01:05:45,760
Speaker 3: what they did in the first game and runs the ball.

1281
01:05:45,840 --> 01:05:48,640
Speaker 3: It will be closer. I got a text. I told

1282
01:05:48,720 --> 01:05:50,040
Speaker 3: you I was going to get this text. I got

1283
01:05:50,040 --> 01:05:53,440
Speaker 3: a text from sal actually this morning I didn't get.

1284
01:05:53,520 --> 01:05:55,680
Speaker 3: Didn't wait all the way till Friday or Saturday. Reporter

1285
01:05:55,720 --> 01:05:58,320
Speaker 3: for the Bills. He is, he's our good friend. He

1286
01:05:58,440 --> 01:06:00,880
Speaker 3: sent me this text and he said, I think the

1287
01:06:00,920 --> 01:06:03,000
Speaker 3: Texans are America's team this weekend.

1288
01:06:03,320 --> 01:06:04,680
Speaker 4: See I said that last week.

1289
01:06:04,680 --> 01:06:06,919
Speaker 1: I said, we're gonna be America's team because everybody wants

1290
01:06:06,920 --> 01:06:08,200
Speaker 1: to see us knock off the Chiefs.

1291
01:06:08,200 --> 01:06:10,520
Speaker 3: That's right, and that's that's what we're gonna have to be.

1292
01:06:11,480 --> 01:06:13,360
Speaker 3: But I think it's I think it's Baltimore. I just

1293
01:06:13,400 --> 01:06:18,880
Speaker 3: think Baltimore playing the advantage of Baltimore taking advantage of Baltimore.

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Speaker 3: I'm sorry, Buffalo Baltimore not playing well early in the

1295
01:06:22,400 --> 01:06:24,960
Speaker 3: year gave Buffalo the opportunity to get up on them

1296
01:06:25,000 --> 01:06:28,080
Speaker 3: a few games that even a loss to Baltimore at

1297
01:06:28,120 --> 01:06:31,840
Speaker 3: Baltimore didn't cost Buffalo home field advantage. And that could

1298
01:06:31,840 --> 01:06:35,000
Speaker 3: be the great equalizer because Lamar has not played well

1299
01:06:35,080 --> 01:06:37,920
Speaker 3: up there in the cold, so that he's never had

1300
01:06:38,000 --> 01:06:38,600
Speaker 3: Dereck Henry.

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Speaker 4: So I think it evens things out.

1302
01:06:40,440 --> 01:06:43,080
Speaker 3: I'm gonna give Baltimore the edge and give them the

1303
01:06:43,080 --> 01:06:44,400
Speaker 3: win and they'll cover that one point.

1304
01:06:44,400 --> 01:06:45,000
Speaker 4: I'll tell you what.

1305
01:06:45,440 --> 01:06:47,880
Speaker 1: I think it's in both of their heads, maybe not

1306
01:06:47,960 --> 01:06:50,080
Speaker 1: this week about getting to the super Bowl.

1307
01:06:50,400 --> 01:06:53,240
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, it's all to get there. Yeah, neither team

1308
01:06:53,280 --> 01:06:54,520
Speaker 4: has gotten there in this era.

1309
01:06:54,640 --> 01:06:56,600
Speaker 1: The Ravens did in twenty twelve, but the Bills haven't

1310
01:06:56,600 --> 01:06:57,720
Speaker 1: been there since Jim Kelly.

1311
01:06:58,040 --> 01:06:59,000
Speaker 4: This is really tough.

1312
01:06:59,040 --> 01:07:03,240
Speaker 3: There's pressure on these two quarterbacks unlike the pressure on

1313
01:07:03,400 --> 01:07:04,919
Speaker 3: anybody else anywhere else.

1314
01:07:05,200 --> 01:07:07,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's on the right point, a great point because

1315
01:07:07,880 --> 01:07:09,840
Speaker 1: even in the NFC, you know, you look at Jalen

1316
01:07:09,880 --> 01:07:12,160
Speaker 1: Hurts has been to a super Bowl, right, and look,

1317
01:07:12,200 --> 01:07:14,800
Speaker 1: the Lions have a lot of pressure, but it still

1318
01:07:14,840 --> 01:07:17,080
Speaker 1: feels so new. Yeah, and GoF has already been to

1319
01:07:17,120 --> 01:07:20,120
Speaker 1: a Super Bowl, but not with Detroit, so there's a

1320
01:07:20,120 --> 01:07:22,000
Speaker 1: ton of pressure on them being that of one seed.

1321
01:07:22,080 --> 01:07:25,680
Speaker 1: And I know, but the injury situation is severe. What's

1322
01:07:25,840 --> 01:07:29,080
Speaker 1: other than the Texans Chiefs game? What is the closest

1323
01:07:29,080 --> 01:07:29,800
Speaker 1: game of the weekend.

1324
01:07:31,480 --> 01:07:33,480
Speaker 3: I think it could end up being I mean, I

1325
01:07:33,480 --> 01:07:35,760
Speaker 3: think Baltimore and in the Ravens, but I think the

1326
01:07:35,760 --> 01:07:37,680
Speaker 3: other one is gonna end up being the Rams Eagles.

1327
01:07:38,440 --> 01:07:41,840
Speaker 3: You know, with Stafford, I just you never take it

1328
01:07:41,840 --> 01:07:44,480
Speaker 3: for granted, but that Eagles rush has been so good.

1329
01:07:44,960 --> 01:07:49,400
Speaker 3: It's been so good. It just destroyed the offensive line

1330
01:07:49,400 --> 01:07:52,320
Speaker 3: for the Packers. I mean, the Packers were just awful.

1331
01:07:53,040 --> 01:07:57,280
Speaker 3: So my hope is that the Rams offensive line does

1332
01:07:57,280 --> 01:07:59,360
Speaker 3: a better job of picking those things up.

1333
01:07:59,560 --> 01:08:02,080
Speaker 4: And I saw that today. I thought it was interesting. Interesting.

1334
01:08:02,440 --> 01:08:07,120
Speaker 3: The Rams are seventeen and six on the East Coast

1335
01:08:07,200 --> 01:08:08,840
Speaker 3: under McVeigh.

1336
01:08:09,040 --> 01:08:11,560
Speaker 1: That's a good number. That's a great number. I know,

1337
01:08:11,920 --> 01:08:13,880
Speaker 1: times yeah, exactly.

1338
01:08:14,440 --> 01:08:17,439
Speaker 3: So that's that I think is something that kind of

1339
01:08:17,439 --> 01:08:20,000
Speaker 3: I don't wanna say it equalizes, but Sean McVay is

1340
01:08:20,000 --> 01:08:20,720
Speaker 3: when hell of a coach.

1341
01:08:20,720 --> 01:08:21,679
Speaker 4: He's got one hell of staff.

1342
01:08:21,720 --> 01:08:23,719
Speaker 3: Kris Shule has done a great job as a defense

1343
01:08:23,800 --> 01:08:27,719
Speaker 3: coordinator and that defensive line can eat. Now they're facing

1344
01:08:27,760 --> 01:08:29,720
Speaker 3: one of the best offensive lines, if not the best,

1345
01:08:29,760 --> 01:08:31,280
Speaker 3: in the league, and that is gonna be key. But

1346
01:08:31,320 --> 01:08:33,360
Speaker 3: I think the Rams stay in that game and make

1347
01:08:33,439 --> 01:08:35,639
Speaker 3: it a game for a full four quarters. I do

1348
01:08:35,720 --> 01:08:38,639
Speaker 3: think the Eagles in the end win a close one,

1349
01:08:38,840 --> 01:08:40,559
Speaker 3: but the Rams are not gonna make it easy.

1350
01:08:40,800 --> 01:08:42,519
Speaker 4: All right, Johnny, thanks a lot, you got it.

1351
01:08:42,680 --> 01:08:45,920
Speaker 1: Next up, Will Anderson Junior and JJ Watt sat down

1352
01:08:46,000 --> 01:08:47,440
Speaker 1: for an interview for CBS.

1353
01:08:47,439 --> 01:08:49,559
Speaker 4: You're gonna hear the whole thing. It's awesome.

1354
01:08:49,640 --> 01:08:51,479
Speaker 1: You got to hear these two guys talk with each

1355
01:08:51,479 --> 01:08:54,960
Speaker 1: other about pass rushing, about the Texans, about the Meco Ryans.

1356
01:08:54,960 --> 01:08:55,439
Speaker 4: It's great.

1357
01:08:55,680 --> 01:08:59,719
Speaker 1: And then Dan Pastorini on the Texans on the history

1358
01:08:59,840 --> 01:09:01,840
Speaker 1: of what is happening on Saturday.

1359
01:09:02,120 --> 01:09:03,840
Speaker 4: Let's do it here on Texans Radio.

1360
01:09:05,439 --> 01:09:07,280
Speaker 1: All right, back to it here on Texans Radio on

1361
01:09:07,320 --> 01:09:09,000
Speaker 1: the Hyundai Texans Radio Studio.

1362
01:09:09,320 --> 01:09:12,120
Speaker 4: And I can't wait for Saturday? Have I said that enough?

1363
01:09:12,160 --> 01:09:15,240
Speaker 1: Three point thirty kickoff Texans and Chiefs twelve thirty with

1364
01:09:15,400 --> 01:09:19,800
Speaker 1: Texans Countdown presented by Medelo Especial with Sean Pendergast and

1365
01:09:19,840 --> 01:09:21,920
Speaker 1: Seth Payne and they held the post game for you

1366
01:09:22,000 --> 01:09:25,559
Speaker 1: as well, with Clint Steerner joining, and man, I just

1367
01:09:25,720 --> 01:09:28,960
Speaker 1: can you imagine that post game if it's a Texans victory.

1368
01:09:29,600 --> 01:09:30,480
Speaker 4: My goodness.

1369
01:09:30,720 --> 01:09:32,439
Speaker 1: See, if I were doing the post game, I would

1370
01:09:32,479 --> 01:09:35,320
Speaker 1: just be firing up classic rock and talking over it

1371
01:09:35,720 --> 01:09:37,880
Speaker 1: the whole night. I might stay on the air the

1372
01:09:38,080 --> 01:09:40,360
Speaker 1: entire evening, but I would have to get on the

1373
01:09:40,439 --> 01:09:41,320
Speaker 1: charter and come home.

1374
01:09:41,400 --> 01:09:41,880
Speaker 4: There's that.

1375
01:09:42,120 --> 01:09:45,439
Speaker 1: Look, these are luxury problems and I would gladly take them.

1376
01:09:45,479 --> 01:09:49,560
Speaker 1: So let's hope for the very best here on Saturday anyway, playoffs.

1377
01:09:49,880 --> 01:09:51,360
Speaker 4: JJ Watt you've heard of him.

1378
01:09:51,520 --> 01:09:54,640
Speaker 1: He works for CBS now and last week, prior to

1379
01:09:54,680 --> 01:09:57,040
Speaker 1: the Texans game with the Chargers, he came in and

1380
01:09:57,120 --> 01:10:00,799
Speaker 1: interviewed Will Anderson Junior, and it was just radio audio gold,

1381
01:10:01,160 --> 01:10:03,479
Speaker 1: really audio gold. I'm putting it on the radio here

1382
01:10:03,520 --> 01:10:05,639
Speaker 1: for the first time, and you're gonna hear the entire

1383
01:10:05,680 --> 01:10:09,639
Speaker 1: interview that we have. It's also available on YouTube NFL

1384
01:10:09,680 --> 01:10:13,639
Speaker 1: Today CBS. JJ Watt talking to a guy who plays

1385
01:10:13,640 --> 01:10:15,880
Speaker 1: for the team he used to play for JJ of

1386
01:10:15,880 --> 01:10:18,200
Speaker 1: course in the Ring of Honor. They've met many times,

1387
01:10:18,280 --> 01:10:20,320
Speaker 1: JJ and Will, and they have a lot to talk

1388
01:10:20,360 --> 01:10:22,479
Speaker 1: about so this is prior to the Charger game, but

1389
01:10:22,520 --> 01:10:25,200
Speaker 1: it's really not that dated at all. As Watt's talking

1390
01:10:25,200 --> 01:10:27,439
Speaker 1: about a lack of respect for the Texans, you still

1391
01:10:27,479 --> 01:10:28,720
Speaker 1: kind of feel that in the air a little bit

1392
01:10:28,760 --> 01:10:32,799
Speaker 1: this week and they talk about pass rush moves, et cetera.

1393
01:10:33,040 --> 01:10:35,519
Speaker 4: JJ Watt and Will Anderson Jr.

1394
01:10:35,760 --> 01:10:38,439
Speaker 10: Everybody who knows you, myself, anybody around this building. I'm

1395
01:10:38,439 --> 01:10:41,520
Speaker 10: sure everybody in Obama knows you're one of the happiest

1396
01:10:41,560 --> 01:10:44,880
Speaker 10: smile Ygues is most jovial people on the planet. But

1397
01:10:44,920 --> 01:10:48,240
Speaker 10: then everybody watches you on game day in your the terminator,

1398
01:10:48,360 --> 01:10:51,639
Speaker 10: your game wrecord, your dominant. How do you handle switching

1399
01:10:51,920 --> 01:10:54,040
Speaker 10: from nice guy to beasts?

1400
01:10:54,120 --> 01:10:56,680
Speaker 11: Yeah, I think it's what comes with it. Like, you know,

1401
01:10:56,920 --> 01:10:59,080
Speaker 11: I try to stay calm, cool and collected. We actually

1402
01:10:59,160 --> 01:11:01,320
Speaker 11: had a I come and talk to us and just

1403
01:11:01,360 --> 01:11:04,479
Speaker 11: talking about like not being too but like just finding

1404
01:11:04,479 --> 01:11:06,800
Speaker 11: that you know that even medium, like you're not being

1405
01:11:06,800 --> 01:11:09,360
Speaker 11: over stimulated and stuff like that. And like previously, like

1406
01:11:09,439 --> 01:11:11,639
Speaker 11: years I play football, I will come to the game

1407
01:11:11,680 --> 01:11:14,200
Speaker 11: and I'll be like very overstimulated. So like the smile

1408
01:11:14,360 --> 01:11:16,240
Speaker 11: is like let me just keep smiling. It smile my

1409
01:11:16,280 --> 01:11:19,120
Speaker 11: way to Sunday. But like it's just that like that

1410
01:11:19,200 --> 01:11:21,280
Speaker 11: time where I know, like you know, everybody got their

1411
01:11:21,320 --> 01:11:23,000
Speaker 11: little thing that keep them going. But I'm like, bro,

1412
01:11:23,120 --> 01:11:25,400
Speaker 11: like this dude lined up against you, like he got

1413
01:11:25,479 --> 01:11:27,160
Speaker 11: to put his paths on, like you want to go

1414
01:11:27,200 --> 01:11:29,120
Speaker 11: against you. And I think that's for me, Like I

1415
01:11:29,120 --> 01:11:30,599
Speaker 11: always stay on edge, and I think that's what I

1416
01:11:30,600 --> 01:11:33,040
Speaker 11: respect about Demico so much, Like he's always talking about

1417
01:11:33,040 --> 01:11:35,559
Speaker 11: being on edge. Like for me, I feel like I'm

1418
01:11:35,560 --> 01:11:37,400
Speaker 11: never respected, Like I gotta go out there and like

1419
01:11:37,439 --> 01:11:38,760
Speaker 11: I got to show it every time I step on

1420
01:11:38,840 --> 01:11:41,160
Speaker 11: the field, So that switch is easy for me to switch,

1421
01:11:41,200 --> 01:11:42,640
Speaker 11: Like I gotta go get it out the mud, no

1422
01:11:42,680 --> 01:11:43,439
Speaker 11: matter what it takes.

1423
01:11:43,560 --> 01:11:46,680
Speaker 10: Yeah, speaking of being disrespected, how do you look at

1424
01:11:46,680 --> 01:11:47,040
Speaker 10: all of that?

1425
01:11:47,360 --> 01:11:49,759
Speaker 11: Yeah, I mean we just take it and go practice,

1426
01:11:49,840 --> 01:11:51,400
Speaker 11: like get ready for Saturday.

1427
01:11:51,439 --> 01:11:53,760
Speaker 7: I think for us, like our main thing, it's just we.

1428
01:11:53,760 --> 01:11:55,240
Speaker 11: Got to focus on what we got to focus on

1429
01:11:55,280 --> 01:11:57,400
Speaker 11: in the building, Like we can't worry about the outside noise.

1430
01:11:57,479 --> 01:11:59,639
Speaker 11: Like everybody gonna say what they want to say. Everybody

1431
01:11:59,640 --> 01:12:01,600
Speaker 11: got a but at the end of the day, you know,

1432
01:12:01,760 --> 01:12:03,599
Speaker 11: it always stays in the back of your head what

1433
01:12:03,640 --> 01:12:05,680
Speaker 11: people are saying. So for us, it's just going out

1434
01:12:05,720 --> 01:12:07,720
Speaker 11: and being us on Saturday, like we know who we are.

1435
01:12:07,800 --> 01:12:10,080
Speaker 11: We talk about swarming. Swarm gonna show up on Saturday,

1436
01:12:10,120 --> 01:12:12,200
Speaker 11: like offense and defense. We're gonna go out there and dominate.

1437
01:12:13,040 --> 01:12:15,479
Speaker 11: I have two brothers, both played in the league. You

1438
01:12:15,560 --> 01:12:17,400
Speaker 11: have five older sisters.

1439
01:12:17,520 --> 01:12:20,400
Speaker 10: Very different, very but it sounds like a little similar

1440
01:12:20,439 --> 01:12:21,800
Speaker 10: because it sounds like they beat up on you a

1441
01:12:21,800 --> 01:12:22,519
Speaker 10: little bit growing up.

1442
01:12:22,560 --> 01:12:24,280
Speaker 11: Tell me about your family they did. Like I was

1443
01:12:24,280 --> 01:12:26,640
Speaker 11: just telling my teammates. We was all talking about me,

1444
01:12:26,840 --> 01:12:29,640
Speaker 11: Mario and Tim. We was talking about enough something like

1445
01:12:29,680 --> 01:12:32,280
Speaker 11: my sisters are rough growing up, Like they all played

1446
01:12:32,280 --> 01:12:36,240
Speaker 11: sports too, Like so they played basketball, ran track, did volleyball, basketball,

1447
01:12:36,280 --> 01:12:39,280
Speaker 11: all those good things, and they were just rough. Like

1448
01:12:39,360 --> 01:12:41,360
Speaker 11: I got so many bruises on me. I got cut

1449
01:12:41,360 --> 01:12:44,200
Speaker 11: with glass, They hit me in the head with ways,

1450
01:12:45,200 --> 01:12:47,320
Speaker 11: locked me in the closet, dressed you up in a

1451
01:12:47,360 --> 01:12:49,120
Speaker 11: giraffe suit and hung me at the door, and let

1452
01:12:49,160 --> 01:12:51,320
Speaker 11: the dog try to bite me, all types of things.

1453
01:12:51,840 --> 01:12:55,320
Speaker 10: Wait, they got you gotta tell that story. They dressed

1454
01:12:55,320 --> 01:12:56,760
Speaker 10: you up in a draft suit.

1455
01:12:56,600 --> 01:12:58,880
Speaker 11: Yes, and I don't know what the giraffe suit like

1456
01:12:58,960 --> 01:13:01,679
Speaker 11: just made them go crazy, like they like they've blacked

1457
01:13:01,720 --> 01:13:04,800
Speaker 11: out anytime they've seen it. So my sisters would take me,

1458
01:13:04,840 --> 01:13:06,720
Speaker 11: put me in the drafts suit and pick me up

1459
01:13:06,760 --> 01:13:08,200
Speaker 11: and hang me at the door and just crack the

1460
01:13:08,240 --> 01:13:10,880
Speaker 11: door open just a little bit and let the dogs

1461
01:13:10,920 --> 01:13:12,479
Speaker 11: like try to ribble at me whatever like that.

1462
01:13:12,560 --> 01:13:14,280
Speaker 7: And I used to be crying every single day with

1463
01:13:14,320 --> 01:13:17,320
Speaker 7: my mom. Don't wonder you're a dog out there.

1464
01:13:17,840 --> 01:13:18,519
Speaker 2: This is cake.

1465
01:13:20,560 --> 01:13:23,080
Speaker 7: I got two brothers. I've never had anything close to that.

1466
01:13:23,160 --> 01:13:25,360
Speaker 7: It was sisters are brutal and they would come up

1467
01:13:25,400 --> 01:13:26,479
Speaker 7: with anything. I used to cry.

1468
01:13:26,600 --> 01:13:28,400
Speaker 11: I'm like, Mom, please take me to work with two

1469
01:13:28,400 --> 01:13:29,400
Speaker 11: I'd rather go to work.

1470
01:13:29,240 --> 01:13:31,280
Speaker 7: And be bored. How much older than you are they

1471
01:13:31,439 --> 01:13:32,479
Speaker 7: we're all back to back.

1472
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Speaker 11: So my older sister's thirty one, thirty twenty seven, twenty six,

1473
01:13:38,360 --> 01:13:39,080
Speaker 11: twenty five, and.

1474
01:13:39,000 --> 01:13:42,160
Speaker 7: I'm twenty three. You're still close. All we're all close.

1475
01:13:42,479 --> 01:13:44,880
Speaker 7: They come to games, all of them, well they all.

1476
01:13:44,760 --> 01:13:46,720
Speaker 11: Had kids now, But like they all pick and choose games.

1477
01:13:46,720 --> 01:13:48,840
Speaker 11: Like my mom sends out the schedule, she say, y'all

1478
01:13:48,880 --> 01:13:50,280
Speaker 11: pick and choose its games y'all want to come to

1479
01:13:50,320 --> 01:13:51,840
Speaker 11: because we know y'all can't come to all the games.

1480
01:13:51,880 --> 01:13:53,800
Speaker 7: But they try to make when they can. Your parents

1481
01:13:53,840 --> 01:13:56,559
Speaker 7: are every game right, every game, they don't miss a game.

1482
01:13:56,680 --> 01:13:59,760
Speaker 10: That's incredible. What does that mean to you to see

1483
01:13:59,800 --> 01:14:00,800
Speaker 10: them in every single game?

1484
01:14:00,880 --> 01:14:02,439
Speaker 11: Yeah, it means a lot to me, Like you know,

1485
01:14:02,600 --> 01:14:04,479
Speaker 11: just coming from a two parent household, haveing my dad

1486
01:14:04,520 --> 01:14:07,200
Speaker 11: involved in my life and it's just special. Like my

1487
01:14:07,280 --> 01:14:09,040
Speaker 11: mom and my dad, they poured so much into me

1488
01:14:09,080 --> 01:14:11,320
Speaker 11: and my sisters and to be able to like just

1489
01:14:11,320 --> 01:14:13,559
Speaker 11: see it come to life, like how you treat people

1490
01:14:13,600 --> 01:14:16,000
Speaker 11: everything like that, like it just comes back on you.

1491
01:14:16,080 --> 01:14:18,280
Speaker 11: And you know, my parents like they tried to see

1492
01:14:18,320 --> 01:14:21,160
Speaker 11: the us like be respectful, do this, do that right,

1493
01:14:21,240 --> 01:14:22,799
Speaker 11: and now you see it come to fruition.

1494
01:14:22,880 --> 01:14:24,599
Speaker 7: And you know, my dad, he's played a big role

1495
01:14:24,640 --> 01:14:25,080
Speaker 7: in my life.

1496
01:14:25,160 --> 01:14:27,040
Speaker 11: Like he wasn't always at home because he was working,

1497
01:14:27,080 --> 01:14:29,200
Speaker 11: but you know, coming to my practices. Like I used

1498
01:14:29,200 --> 01:14:30,640
Speaker 11: to tell people like I didn't have the dad that

1499
01:14:30,720 --> 01:14:32,920
Speaker 11: we're like put my son in the game. That is

1500
01:14:32,960 --> 01:14:34,920
Speaker 11: he was like coach, if you don't want to go

1501
01:14:35,000 --> 01:14:37,000
Speaker 11: and if you don't want to play, bring him over

1502
01:14:37,200 --> 01:14:37,479
Speaker 11: with me.

1503
01:14:37,600 --> 01:14:38,720
Speaker 7: Like that's the type of dad I had.

1504
01:14:38,800 --> 01:14:41,360
Speaker 11: Like but I can hear him, like I'll never forget

1505
01:14:41,520 --> 01:14:42,639
Speaker 11: when I got to high school.

1506
01:14:42,840 --> 01:14:44,360
Speaker 7: That's when my whole life had changed.

1507
01:14:44,400 --> 01:14:46,760
Speaker 11: We had a band, the Chilians out there, and I

1508
01:14:46,760 --> 01:14:48,040
Speaker 11: could not hear his voice no more.

1509
01:14:48,400 --> 01:14:50,160
Speaker 7: And that was like the best time. I started playing

1510
01:14:50,200 --> 01:14:50,760
Speaker 7: my best ball.

1511
01:14:51,120 --> 01:14:53,160
Speaker 10: I had the same man my dad, like, hey, these

1512
01:14:53,240 --> 01:14:54,760
Speaker 10: things getting out.

1513
01:14:54,360 --> 01:14:55,120
Speaker 8: I know.

1514
01:14:55,160 --> 01:14:57,240
Speaker 10: I look up in the stands and he's scowling.

1515
01:14:56,840 --> 01:15:01,880
Speaker 7: Down him thirty minute talk on the way, Oh, just

1516
01:15:01,920 --> 01:15:03,120
Speaker 7: brut them as well, go straight through.

1517
01:15:04,800 --> 01:15:07,519
Speaker 10: I've heard on draft night that you wanted to get

1518
01:15:07,560 --> 01:15:10,040
Speaker 10: drafted by the Texans, but then they picked CJ. To

1519
01:15:10,200 --> 01:15:12,120
Speaker 10: walk me through your draft night thoughts.

1520
01:15:12,320 --> 01:15:14,680
Speaker 11: Yeah, like my agent, Nicole, she already had told me

1521
01:15:14,720 --> 01:15:17,200
Speaker 11: like the Texans that take in CJ obviously like they're

1522
01:15:17,240 --> 01:15:18,680
Speaker 11: not going to get you whatever like that. So she

1523
01:15:18,680 --> 01:15:20,680
Speaker 11: slaty gave me the heads up. But I was like,

1524
01:15:20,720 --> 01:15:23,320
Speaker 11: I don't care, like, tell them, tell the Mico. I

1525
01:15:23,320 --> 01:15:25,000
Speaker 11: don't care, Like he needs to do whatever he needs

1526
01:15:25,000 --> 01:15:27,920
Speaker 11: to do to get me to Houston. And on the

1527
01:15:27,960 --> 01:15:30,040
Speaker 11: board they said they had, you know, switched a pick

1528
01:15:30,080 --> 01:15:32,760
Speaker 11: with the Cardinals, but on the back, like in the

1529
01:15:32,760 --> 01:15:34,600
Speaker 11: green room, it still said the Cardinals was up. So

1530
01:15:35,120 --> 01:15:37,000
Speaker 11: I get a phone call from the Texans and I'm like,

1531
01:15:37,960 --> 01:15:40,160
Speaker 11: what they called me for and I'm like thinking, they

1532
01:15:40,200 --> 01:15:41,960
Speaker 11: just called me like cause we had a really good relationship,

1533
01:15:42,000 --> 01:15:44,000
Speaker 11: like oh, we saw we couldn't get you with good luck.

1534
01:15:44,040 --> 01:15:46,679
Speaker 11: And it was the Mico on the phone saying, we're drafting,

1535
01:15:46,760 --> 01:15:48,800
Speaker 11: we want you, and I was so happy, like I

1536
01:15:48,840 --> 01:15:50,240
Speaker 11: didn't want to go nowhere else but here.

1537
01:15:50,360 --> 01:15:52,679
Speaker 10: Yeah, how's the veco Ben? Everything he thought he'd.

1538
01:15:52,520 --> 01:15:54,479
Speaker 11: Be, everything I knew he would be, Like, I knew

1539
01:15:54,479 --> 01:15:57,000
Speaker 11: his mentality, I knew his coaching style, how he wanted

1540
01:15:57,040 --> 01:15:59,559
Speaker 11: to run his program, how he wanted his players to play,

1541
01:15:59,600 --> 01:16:02,160
Speaker 11: and he exceeded everything that I ever could imagine. Man,

1542
01:16:02,200 --> 01:16:04,519
Speaker 11: I mean the way he cares for us, the way

1543
01:16:04,560 --> 01:16:06,880
Speaker 11: he coaches us, I think it's perfect, Like he still

1544
01:16:06,920 --> 01:16:10,000
Speaker 11: has that player like mentality, like this how it was

1545
01:16:10,000 --> 01:16:11,600
Speaker 11: as a player, And I need y' all to understand that.

1546
01:16:11,680 --> 01:16:13,120
Speaker 11: And I understand tw one hundred percent. I know the

1547
01:16:13,120 --> 01:16:14,639
Speaker 11: god's in the locker room understanding, and I think that's

1548
01:16:14,640 --> 01:16:15,519
Speaker 11: what makes us so good.

1549
01:16:15,680 --> 01:16:17,679
Speaker 10: I try and explain to people what he's like because

1550
01:16:17,680 --> 01:16:19,639
Speaker 10: they always ask, how did he turn the program around?

1551
01:16:19,680 --> 01:16:21,960
Speaker 10: I'm like, you have to understand. He knows how to

1552
01:16:22,000 --> 01:16:26,240
Speaker 10: handle the people, his personalities, but he's also brilliant. He's

1553
01:16:26,280 --> 01:16:28,920
Speaker 10: a really good football mind, and in those meetings, you

1554
01:16:28,960 --> 01:16:30,280
Speaker 10: guys can see that and feel that.

1555
01:16:30,360 --> 01:16:32,720
Speaker 11: Right most definitely, I feel like more like when we're

1556
01:16:32,720 --> 01:16:34,240
Speaker 11: in the team meeting, and I think you see it

1557
01:16:34,280 --> 01:16:37,040
Speaker 11: more like when he knows every level of each you know,

1558
01:16:37,120 --> 01:16:40,160
Speaker 11: special teams, offense and defense. I think that just shows

1559
01:16:40,200 --> 01:16:42,920
Speaker 11: you know how far he hit, how far ahead he is,

1560
01:16:43,000 --> 01:16:45,120
Speaker 11: Like he's able to break down what the special teams

1561
01:16:45,160 --> 01:16:46,800
Speaker 11: need to do, breakdown what the offense need to do,

1562
01:16:46,880 --> 01:16:49,639
Speaker 11: what looks they're going to get defense, what's our keys

1563
01:16:49,640 --> 01:16:51,360
Speaker 11: the victory, how we're going to go in and win this game.

1564
01:16:51,640 --> 01:16:53,240
Speaker 11: And I think that's what makes them really special. And

1565
01:16:53,240 --> 01:16:55,360
Speaker 11: then just like seeing him coach on the sideline, coaching

1566
01:16:55,360 --> 01:16:58,120
Speaker 11: the offense, coach coaching the defense and makes them really special.

1567
01:16:58,200 --> 01:17:01,040
Speaker 10: Yeah, he's a special cap man. Lucky to play with him.

1568
01:17:01,040 --> 01:17:03,000
Speaker 10: You're lucky to get coach Byron. I got to ask

1569
01:17:03,040 --> 01:17:05,600
Speaker 10: about the Neil. He's quiet. I think he's one of

1570
01:17:05,600 --> 01:17:08,680
Speaker 10: the most underrated players in the last decade because he

1571
01:17:08,720 --> 01:17:09,280
Speaker 10: doesn't talk.

1572
01:17:09,320 --> 01:17:10,280
Speaker 7: I think that's part of it.

1573
01:17:10,360 --> 01:17:13,479
Speaker 10: But I mean that man is a cyborn.

1574
01:17:13,080 --> 01:17:16,240
Speaker 11: Bro unorthodox like nothing I've never seen, like I played

1575
01:17:16,240 --> 01:17:18,719
Speaker 11: with d NS, and I've never seen anything like it before,

1576
01:17:18,760 --> 01:17:21,960
Speaker 11: Like the way he can maneuver, the way his athletic

1577
01:17:21,960 --> 01:17:24,719
Speaker 11: ability just takes over his instincts, like not thinking about

1578
01:17:24,720 --> 01:17:27,400
Speaker 11: his rush, no, nothing like whatever he gets, he just

1579
01:17:27,400 --> 01:17:30,240
Speaker 11: goes with the flow and he wins that rush like immediately,

1580
01:17:30,720 --> 01:17:33,720
Speaker 11: and he's like, it's a great balance between us.

1581
01:17:33,880 --> 01:17:35,480
Speaker 7: Like I'm very like.

1582
01:17:35,000 --> 01:17:36,840
Speaker 11: Like and when I look over at him, he keeps

1583
01:17:36,840 --> 01:17:39,639
Speaker 11: my demeanor like everything's gonna be good, and I respect

1584
01:17:39,720 --> 01:17:41,800
Speaker 11: him for that. But like when we get on the field,

1585
01:17:41,800 --> 01:17:44,400
Speaker 11: he's a totally different person, Like sometimes.

1586
01:17:44,040 --> 01:17:45,080
Speaker 7: I don't even know who he is.

1587
01:17:45,200 --> 01:17:46,840
Speaker 11: Like he gets out there, he just started doing some

1588
01:17:46,840 --> 01:17:50,040
Speaker 11: of the craziest things I've ever seen before. And I

1589
01:17:50,040 --> 01:17:52,680
Speaker 11: feel like he's underrated too. But like he chops with

1590
01:17:52,840 --> 01:17:54,639
Speaker 11: every day, Like he goes to work like he's never

1591
01:17:54,760 --> 01:17:57,320
Speaker 11: like comfortable, like off to the side, like pulling us. Hey,

1592
01:17:57,400 --> 01:17:59,320
Speaker 11: let's work our hands, let's do this, let's do that.

1593
01:17:59,560 --> 01:18:01,479
Speaker 11: And I think that's what makes him such a great player.

1594
01:18:01,560 --> 01:18:05,240
Speaker 10: Yeah, he looks like he chops it every day. I mean,

1595
01:18:05,240 --> 01:18:10,840
Speaker 10: I've never seen anybody walk around pure yo sins. It's insane.

1596
01:18:11,320 --> 01:18:13,120
Speaker 10: Like some people they look like that when they walk

1597
01:18:13,120 --> 01:18:14,799
Speaker 10: out of the weight room after a big lift. Danil

1598
01:18:14,880 --> 01:18:17,080
Speaker 10: just looks like that when he wakes up. It's unbelievable.

1599
01:18:17,080 --> 01:18:17,760
Speaker 10: I've never seen that.

1600
01:18:17,840 --> 01:18:18,519
Speaker 7: Boy, It's crazy.

1601
01:18:18,560 --> 01:18:20,880
Speaker 10: And then that that move that he made where he

1602
01:18:21,160 --> 01:18:23,439
Speaker 10: jabbed inside spun back outside. Dude, that was one of

1603
01:18:23,520 --> 01:18:26,200
Speaker 10: the cleanest, sickest moves I've seen in a long time.

1604
01:18:26,280 --> 01:18:26,400
Speaker 5: Bro.

1605
01:18:26,520 --> 01:18:28,880
Speaker 11: The thing about it, like he'll do it all day,

1606
01:18:28,960 --> 01:18:30,320
Speaker 11: Like he don't even do it in practice. You know

1607
01:18:30,640 --> 01:18:32,400
Speaker 11: you're doing it in practice. He'll just do it on

1608
01:18:32,479 --> 01:18:34,880
Speaker 11: the side, like you look over it. He's just me jabbing, spinning,

1609
01:18:35,240 --> 01:18:37,439
Speaker 11: jabb and spin it, jabb and spin it. It was like, Bro,

1610
01:18:37,520 --> 01:18:39,280
Speaker 11: we're gonna pull it out and then on Sunday you'll

1611
01:18:39,280 --> 01:18:40,880
Speaker 11: see it here jab is just spinning.

1612
01:18:40,880 --> 01:18:43,320
Speaker 7: It'd be a beautiful thing. So clean. What's your favorite move?

1613
01:18:43,520 --> 01:18:45,960
Speaker 11: My favorite move right now? Like I like speak to

1614
01:18:46,000 --> 01:18:48,439
Speaker 11: power like that's my game, that's my game. But like recently,

1615
01:18:48,560 --> 01:18:50,720
Speaker 11: stab club has been my baby, Like that's just been

1616
01:18:50,800 --> 01:18:52,640
Speaker 11: my goal to Like my thing last year was like,

1617
01:18:52,680 --> 01:18:54,200
Speaker 11: well you gotta get separation at the top, like me

1618
01:18:54,240 --> 01:18:55,880
Speaker 11: and demgo talking like that was my pro go, Like

1619
01:18:56,000 --> 01:18:57,479
Speaker 11: that's why I was missed. So many sacks, like you

1620
01:18:57,560 --> 01:18:59,400
Speaker 11: got to get extension at the top. So like my

1621
01:18:59,560 --> 01:19:02,360
Speaker 11: long de feed that outside hand and bringing that rip

1622
01:19:02,479 --> 01:19:04,000
Speaker 11: like that's been my goal to this year.

1623
01:19:04,120 --> 01:19:06,200
Speaker 10: Yeah, I love it, But then that that long arm

1624
01:19:06,240 --> 01:19:09,000
Speaker 10: doesn't work unless you actually bull get the weight to

1625
01:19:09,080 --> 01:19:09,439
Speaker 10: come on you.

1626
01:19:09,520 --> 01:19:11,760
Speaker 11: And then you say, I actually seen it. I've seen

1627
01:19:11,800 --> 01:19:14,080
Speaker 11: a clip of you doing that. I don't know who

1628
01:19:14,120 --> 01:19:15,519
Speaker 11: y'all were playing. I want to say it was either

1629
01:19:15,600 --> 01:19:18,600
Speaker 11: the Titans or who. But you had like sold it

1630
01:19:18,840 --> 01:19:20,560
Speaker 11: and he has sad as soon as you said you

1631
01:19:20,680 --> 01:19:22,400
Speaker 11: hit him with them and it came back and saw

1632
01:19:22,400 --> 01:19:23,000
Speaker 11: it was nice.

1633
01:19:23,040 --> 01:19:25,200
Speaker 10: There's nothing better that he puts off his way forward.

1634
01:19:25,200 --> 01:19:30,000
Speaker 7: And you're like, now you got me dreaming, man, come back,

1635
01:19:30,080 --> 01:19:30,400
Speaker 7: come back.

1636
01:19:31,080 --> 01:19:33,200
Speaker 10: I was when I walked in, I saw the playoff

1637
01:19:33,240 --> 01:19:35,200
Speaker 10: banner on the building, and I remember I was here

1638
01:19:35,280 --> 01:19:37,160
Speaker 10: for the first ever playoff banner on the building, and

1639
01:19:37,200 --> 01:19:39,920
Speaker 10: I'll never forget what it was like knowing that this

1640
01:19:40,120 --> 01:19:43,080
Speaker 10: city had never hadn't had that, and so we were

1641
01:19:43,120 --> 01:19:45,040
Speaker 10: bringing that to them. And now here you guys are,

1642
01:19:45,080 --> 01:19:46,519
Speaker 10: in your second year doing it again.

1643
01:19:46,840 --> 01:19:47,800
Speaker 7: I got a question for you.

1644
01:19:47,880 --> 01:19:50,920
Speaker 11: So like going into the playoffs, like I know, like

1645
01:19:51,000 --> 01:19:52,600
Speaker 11: I hear like last year I was selling them, like,

1646
01:19:52,680 --> 01:19:54,080
Speaker 11: of course I was a little banged up last year.

1647
01:19:54,080 --> 01:19:56,720
Speaker 11: Didn't even know what NFL PAYLFS really was. Now that

1648
01:19:56,840 --> 01:19:59,080
Speaker 11: I had a good grasp of it, and stuff like that,

1649
01:19:59,280 --> 01:20:02,320
Speaker 11: like what was your mentality? Like how did your mentality change?

1650
01:20:02,520 --> 01:20:02,920
Speaker 8: Like what?

1651
01:20:03,240 --> 01:20:06,240
Speaker 7: Like what separated you? Like what was that? Like it's

1652
01:20:06,280 --> 01:20:07,439
Speaker 7: a different level now.

1653
01:20:07,640 --> 01:20:11,360
Speaker 10: Yeah, I think it's a little bit of understanding that

1654
01:20:11,439 --> 01:20:13,160
Speaker 10: it's a different level and you have to take a

1655
01:20:13,200 --> 01:20:16,080
Speaker 10: game to a different level, but also understanding a little

1656
01:20:16,120 --> 01:20:19,040
Speaker 10: what you were talking about before that it's still football.

1657
01:20:19,479 --> 01:20:20,559
Speaker 7: Like it's still football.

1658
01:20:20,600 --> 01:20:21,920
Speaker 10: You have to go out there, and if you try

1659
01:20:21,920 --> 01:20:23,640
Speaker 10: and play outside of yourself, or if you try and

1660
01:20:23,760 --> 01:20:26,160
Speaker 10: play up to the level of the game, you can

1661
01:20:26,240 --> 01:20:28,800
Speaker 10: take yourself out of it. The reason you're here is

1662
01:20:28,920 --> 01:20:31,600
Speaker 10: because of how you played to get here, So it

1663
01:20:31,640 --> 01:20:34,600
Speaker 10: shouldn't be a complete change to something else. But you

1664
01:20:34,640 --> 01:20:38,080
Speaker 10: should also let that energy and anticipation flow through you

1665
01:20:38,640 --> 01:20:41,200
Speaker 10: and lift you up to another level. The other thing

1666
01:20:41,240 --> 01:20:45,080
Speaker 10: I think I would say is appreciate the gravity of

1667
01:20:45,160 --> 01:20:49,320
Speaker 10: this situation and how special this opportunity is. My first

1668
01:20:49,400 --> 01:20:52,439
Speaker 10: two years, I went to the playoffs, we went to

1669
01:20:52,479 --> 01:20:54,240
Speaker 10: the set, we won our first round playoff game, went

1670
01:20:54,280 --> 01:20:56,439
Speaker 10: to the second round and lost, and I'm thinking it's

1671
01:20:56,520 --> 01:20:58,280
Speaker 10: just a matter of time before I win the super Bowl.

1672
01:20:58,800 --> 01:21:00,760
Speaker 10: The next year we went to and fourteen. Took me

1673
01:21:00,800 --> 01:21:02,880
Speaker 10: a couple more years to get back there. So don't

1674
01:21:02,920 --> 01:21:05,559
Speaker 10: take this opportunity for granted. Make sure your teammates, make

1675
01:21:05,600 --> 01:21:08,080
Speaker 10: sure everybody understands this is special.

1676
01:21:08,320 --> 01:21:09,760
Speaker 7: We have a chance to do something. Now.

1677
01:21:10,479 --> 01:21:14,280
Speaker 10: There's whatever twenty twenty four teams sitting at home wishing

1678
01:21:14,320 --> 01:21:16,360
Speaker 10: that they were in this dance. You guys are in

1679
01:21:16,439 --> 01:21:18,120
Speaker 10: the dance and you have a chance. Don't take it

1680
01:21:18,160 --> 01:21:18,599
Speaker 10: for granted.

1681
01:21:19,520 --> 01:21:20,000
Speaker 7: Appreciate it.

1682
01:21:20,120 --> 01:21:22,040
Speaker 10: I'm looking forward to watching. Man, it's gonna be a blast,

1683
01:21:22,360 --> 01:21:25,559
Speaker 10: and you know it like playoff football is. Ain't nothing

1684
01:21:25,680 --> 01:21:28,400
Speaker 10: like it not. I just hope you, and it seems

1685
01:21:28,479 --> 01:21:30,240
Speaker 10: like you and CJ and the whole crew really do

1686
01:21:30,439 --> 01:21:34,160
Speaker 10: understand what this means to the city and what winning

1687
01:21:34,240 --> 01:21:37,000
Speaker 10: football means. And I hope you take this place to

1688
01:21:37,880 --> 01:21:40,200
Speaker 10: somewhere that I never could. And I wish you all

1689
01:21:40,240 --> 01:21:41,680
Speaker 10: the best. And I love it because of who you

1690
01:21:41,760 --> 01:21:44,360
Speaker 10: are as a person and the way that you handle yourself.

1691
01:21:44,400 --> 01:21:46,640
Speaker 10: So I'm a huge fan. I can't wait to watch you.

1692
01:21:46,680 --> 01:21:49,280
Speaker 7: On Saturday, Brother appreciate it, J thank you, thank you by.

1693
01:21:49,760 --> 01:21:50,559
Speaker 4: Isn't that awesome?

1694
01:21:50,800 --> 01:21:54,960
Speaker 1: JJ Watt and Will Anderson Junior chopping it up in

1695
01:21:55,080 --> 01:21:59,559
Speaker 1: the Founder Suite about Texans football and about Tamiko Ryan's

1696
01:21:59,640 --> 01:22:02,120
Speaker 1: and the it. I listened to that a couple of times.

1697
01:22:02,520 --> 01:22:04,960
Speaker 1: Really good stuff. And it's also available on YouTube. That's

1698
01:22:04,960 --> 01:22:10,000
Speaker 1: from CBS the NFL Today. Coming up, Dante Dan Pastorini.

1699
01:22:10,160 --> 01:22:13,200
Speaker 1: He was in the building when the Texans beat the Chargers.

1700
01:22:13,600 --> 01:22:16,559
Speaker 1: He was on the field the last time the city

1701
01:22:16,600 --> 01:22:19,400
Speaker 1: of Houston had a team playing in the AFC Championship game.

1702
01:22:19,439 --> 01:22:21,160
Speaker 1: He's got a lot to say. Let's get him on

1703
01:22:21,240 --> 01:22:24,920
Speaker 1: the air next here on Texans Radio. All right, final

1704
01:22:24,960 --> 01:22:26,920
Speaker 1: segment of the night here on Texans Radio, and it's

1705
01:22:26,960 --> 01:22:29,679
Speaker 1: a good one. Dan Pastorini played quarterback for the Oilers

1706
01:22:29,720 --> 01:22:32,760
Speaker 1: in the seventies and he was outstanding.

1707
01:22:32,840 --> 01:22:33,080
Speaker 4: Really.

1708
01:22:33,240 --> 01:22:35,760
Speaker 1: He came into a situation where the team wasn't good

1709
01:22:35,760 --> 01:22:37,799
Speaker 1: at all, so they had a lot of losing seasons.

1710
01:22:38,160 --> 01:22:40,600
Speaker 1: Then they drafted a player named Earl Campbell from the

1711
01:22:40,720 --> 01:22:44,040
Speaker 1: University of Texas and the whole world changed for the Oilers.

1712
01:22:44,080 --> 01:22:47,360
Speaker 1: As bum Phillips was the head coach, Dante was the quarterback.

1713
01:22:47,640 --> 01:22:51,759
Speaker 1: They had Hall of famers on defense, Elvin Bethey, Robert Brazil.

1714
01:22:51,840 --> 01:22:55,040
Speaker 1: I mean, these guys were really good. And if it

1715
01:22:55,120 --> 01:22:57,640
Speaker 1: weren't for the Steelers, the Steelers were the team that

1716
01:22:57,840 --> 01:22:59,960
Speaker 1: was in their way all the time, trying to get

1717
01:23:00,120 --> 01:23:02,200
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl all the time, meaning back to back

1718
01:23:02,320 --> 01:23:05,400
Speaker 1: AFC Championship games in seventy eight and seventy nine. Now

1719
01:23:06,080 --> 01:23:09,280
Speaker 1: why am I talking about this? Well, Dante as perspective,

1720
01:23:09,840 --> 01:23:12,679
Speaker 1: if the Texans break through, this is the sixth chance

1721
01:23:12,800 --> 01:23:15,840
Speaker 1: the Texans have had to get to the AFC Championship Game.

1722
01:23:16,280 --> 01:23:18,800
Speaker 1: If they get there, it's the first time the city

1723
01:23:18,840 --> 01:23:21,880
Speaker 1: of Houston has its pro football team in the AFC

1724
01:23:22,040 --> 01:23:26,320
Speaker 1: Championship Game since nineteen seventy nine. And think about this,

1725
01:23:26,800 --> 01:23:29,479
Speaker 1: the love you Blue Oilers, that's who they were. They

1726
01:23:29,600 --> 01:23:33,320
Speaker 1: are such an adored, beloved team and they didn't get

1727
01:23:33,360 --> 01:23:35,880
Speaker 1: to a super Bowl. The Texans will get as far

1728
01:23:36,160 --> 01:23:38,160
Speaker 1: as they did now they got their back to back

1729
01:23:38,200 --> 01:23:40,360
Speaker 1: and they lost to a juggernaut. Who are the Texans

1730
01:23:40,439 --> 01:23:44,040
Speaker 1: taking on a juggernaut in the Kansas City Chiefs. But

1731
01:23:44,160 --> 01:23:46,519
Speaker 1: what about the first time the Oilers got to the

1732
01:23:46,560 --> 01:23:49,080
Speaker 1: AFC Championship Game The year they finally broke through.

1733
01:23:49,080 --> 01:23:50,240
Speaker 4: It was nineteen seventy eight.

1734
01:23:50,320 --> 01:23:53,760
Speaker 1: They beat the Patriots in New England to get to

1735
01:23:53,880 --> 01:23:56,519
Speaker 1: the AFC Championship game, only to lose to the Steelers.

1736
01:23:56,640 --> 01:23:58,640
Speaker 1: All right, we're going to talk to Dante, who is

1737
01:23:58,720 --> 01:24:01,679
Speaker 1: in the building. He watched the Texans take on the Chargers,

1738
01:24:02,040 --> 01:24:05,639
Speaker 1: and very relevant here his opinion. He loves CJ. Stroud

1739
01:24:06,000 --> 01:24:10,040
Speaker 1: absolutely loved his rookie season. Acknowledges, Yeah, it hasn't been

1740
01:24:10,280 --> 01:24:13,000
Speaker 1: as productive in his so called sophomore season.

1741
01:24:13,080 --> 01:24:14,280
Speaker 4: Yet here you are with ten wins.

1742
01:24:14,320 --> 01:24:16,920
Speaker 1: You want a playoff game, and clearly in that playoff game,

1743
01:24:17,040 --> 01:24:20,160
Speaker 1: CJ was dealing as the game went on. That play

1744
01:24:20,240 --> 01:24:24,440
Speaker 1: to X really turned things around. Let's hear from Dan Pastorini,

1745
01:24:25,520 --> 01:24:29,720
Speaker 1: Texas gridaron legend, former Oilers quarterback, a man of many

1746
01:24:29,880 --> 01:24:33,840
Speaker 1: talents and movies, sports, all of it.

1747
01:24:34,040 --> 01:24:34,920
Speaker 4: Dante, how's it going.

1748
01:24:35,720 --> 01:24:38,200
Speaker 5: I'm very well. Thank you, Mark. How are you doing?

1749
01:24:38,880 --> 01:24:41,160
Speaker 1: I'm doing great. It's always a pleasure to catch up.

1750
01:24:41,360 --> 01:24:44,439
Speaker 1: And look, the Texans are trying to make history on Saturday.

1751
01:24:44,479 --> 01:24:46,880
Speaker 1: I know you know this, and first I want to

1752
01:24:46,880 --> 01:24:48,439
Speaker 1: get your thoughts on CJ.

1753
01:24:49,520 --> 01:24:52,160
Speaker 4: And last year. I know we talked about him.

1754
01:24:52,640 --> 01:24:56,200
Speaker 1: This year, not as productive numbers wise, but here are

1755
01:24:56,200 --> 01:24:58,240
Speaker 1: the Texans again in the postseason, and he had that

1756
01:24:58,400 --> 01:25:01,800
Speaker 1: moment in the playoff game against the Chargers where he

1757
01:25:02,400 --> 01:25:04,400
Speaker 1: fumbled a snap, he got the ball back, made a

1758
01:25:04,439 --> 01:25:06,639
Speaker 1: great play, and after that it seemed like everything changed.

1759
01:25:06,720 --> 01:25:09,640
Speaker 1: What are your overall thoughts on that game his performance?

1760
01:25:09,960 --> 01:25:11,320
Speaker 1: Could you reflect on that for us?

1761
01:25:12,160 --> 01:25:14,720
Speaker 5: Yeah? I happened to be at that game. I was

1762
01:25:15,720 --> 01:25:19,080
Speaker 5: up in the owner's box with everybody and just kind

1763
01:25:19,120 --> 01:25:21,080
Speaker 5: of enjoying the game. I tell you what, that game

1764
01:25:21,240 --> 01:25:25,000
Speaker 5: was one of the more spectacular games I've ever seen.

1765
01:25:25,120 --> 01:25:28,880
Speaker 5: And I've seen all kinds of things happening, but never

1766
01:25:29,000 --> 01:25:31,120
Speaker 5: in that what happened in that game with all the

1767
01:25:31,160 --> 01:25:34,400
Speaker 5: different ways of scoring, the safety on the extra point

1768
01:25:34,439 --> 01:25:37,760
Speaker 5: and whatnot. But yeah, that's one play where he scrambled

1769
01:25:37,800 --> 01:25:41,040
Speaker 5: and got loose and it kind of loosened him up

1770
01:25:41,080 --> 01:25:43,960
Speaker 5: a little bit. He's he's been a little timid this year,

1771
01:25:45,120 --> 01:25:48,360
Speaker 5: which is kind of understandable for a second year quarterback.

1772
01:25:48,479 --> 01:25:50,800
Speaker 5: But you know, I still like what I see in him.

1773
01:25:50,840 --> 01:25:53,840
Speaker 5: I think he's a great baller and great great kid,

1774
01:25:54,000 --> 01:25:57,599
Speaker 5: great attitude, leader, everything. He's got everything going for him.

1775
01:25:58,240 --> 01:26:01,599
Speaker 5: You know, it's hard to It's hard to put all

1776
01:26:01,640 --> 01:26:03,840
Speaker 5: the blame on the quarterback. You know, I can say

1777
01:26:03,880 --> 01:26:07,080
Speaker 5: that from from past experience, but you know, the offensive

1778
01:26:07,120 --> 01:26:09,400
Speaker 5: line this year has not been what they were last year.

1779
01:26:09,640 --> 01:26:11,840
Speaker 5: And last year he had a lot of time he

1780
01:26:11,960 --> 01:26:15,000
Speaker 5: anticipated well and I think they you know, he was

1781
01:26:16,040 --> 01:26:19,680
Speaker 5: he was more familiarized to the system. And this year

1782
01:26:19,760 --> 01:26:23,720
Speaker 5: they you know, people snuck up on them. Their their

1783
01:26:23,800 --> 01:26:27,200
Speaker 5: system kind of remained the same and you didn't see

1784
01:26:28,200 --> 01:26:30,880
Speaker 5: you saw him getting stop more than than he than

1785
01:26:30,920 --> 01:26:34,120
Speaker 5: he did in his first year, or than the Texans

1786
01:26:34,200 --> 01:26:37,479
Speaker 5: did in their first year. But it's going to be exciting.

1787
01:26:37,520 --> 01:26:40,080
Speaker 5: You know, they're they're gelling at the right time. They

1788
01:26:40,200 --> 01:26:45,800
Speaker 5: played great against San Diego. Going into this game is

1789
01:26:46,600 --> 01:26:50,719
Speaker 5: going to be catamount for them. He's the whole team

1790
01:26:50,760 --> 01:26:53,120
Speaker 5: has got to play well because they're going up against

1791
01:26:53,120 --> 01:26:56,919
Speaker 5: the world champions. Not easy to get the world champions

1792
01:26:57,960 --> 01:27:01,320
Speaker 5: second round or first round even but you know, you

1793
01:27:01,439 --> 01:27:03,040
Speaker 5: got to beat the best to be the best. So

1794
01:27:03,240 --> 01:27:04,120
Speaker 5: why not start there.

1795
01:27:05,360 --> 01:27:08,559
Speaker 1: Tell me about what you see in this Texans defense, Dante,

1796
01:27:08,840 --> 01:27:13,840
Speaker 1: because obviously they bawled out, they scored, They were able

1797
01:27:13,880 --> 01:27:16,439
Speaker 1: to make numerous big stops against the Chargers. I know

1798
01:27:16,560 --> 01:27:18,880
Speaker 1: they're on the road. Now you mentioned it, you're playing

1799
01:27:18,920 --> 01:27:21,280
Speaker 1: a juggernaut team. But what do you see in this

1800
01:27:21,439 --> 01:27:22,920
Speaker 1: defense that gives you some hope?

1801
01:27:22,960 --> 01:27:23,080
Speaker 7: Here?

1802
01:27:23,840 --> 01:27:27,680
Speaker 5: Defense is incredible. It reminds me of our defense in

1803
01:27:27,920 --> 01:27:30,800
Speaker 5: seventy eighty nine. Orders You got a lot of guys

1804
01:27:30,840 --> 01:27:32,760
Speaker 5: flying around the ball, you got a lot of guys

1805
01:27:32,800 --> 01:27:37,640
Speaker 5: playing with big guys. They see a lot, they're enthusiastic,

1806
01:27:38,000 --> 01:27:41,760
Speaker 5: they go after you. It's exactly what a defense needs

1807
01:27:41,840 --> 01:27:45,679
Speaker 5: to be, which I wouldn't expect anything less from the coach.

1808
01:27:46,520 --> 01:27:48,240
Speaker 1: Well, try to make history and get to the AFC

1809
01:27:48,400 --> 01:27:51,120
Speaker 1: Championship Game for the first time in franchise history and

1810
01:27:51,200 --> 01:27:53,680
Speaker 1: for the first time in forty five years for the

1811
01:27:53,840 --> 01:27:54,879
Speaker 1: city of Houston.

1812
01:27:55,080 --> 01:27:57,680
Speaker 4: And obviously you were a huge part of.

1813
01:27:57,800 --> 01:28:01,479
Speaker 1: Back to back AFC Championship game and everyone always talks

1814
01:28:01,520 --> 01:28:04,360
Speaker 1: about the win that the Oilers had when everybody was

1815
01:28:04,439 --> 01:28:08,479
Speaker 1: hurt at the Chargers, which was an incredible victory, really amazing.

1816
01:28:08,800 --> 01:28:11,679
Speaker 1: But let's go back to the first time you broke

1817
01:28:11,840 --> 01:28:14,679
Speaker 1: through to the AFC Championship Game, which was forty six

1818
01:28:14,840 --> 01:28:17,920
Speaker 1: years ago, and the Oilers at ten and six in

1819
01:28:18,120 --> 01:28:19,839
Speaker 1: the wild card round.

1820
01:28:19,680 --> 01:28:20,559
Speaker 4: You beat Miami.

1821
01:28:21,160 --> 01:28:23,080
Speaker 1: What was that like and what was it like going

1822
01:28:23,160 --> 01:28:24,920
Speaker 1: up to New England to get the win in the

1823
01:28:25,000 --> 01:28:28,240
Speaker 1: divisional round and get through to the AFC Championship game

1824
01:28:28,280 --> 01:28:29,160
Speaker 1: for the first time ever.

1825
01:28:29,840 --> 01:28:30,519
Speaker 3: Well, we all.

1826
01:28:30,520 --> 01:28:36,960
Speaker 5: Played impeccably well against Miami and then against New England.

1827
01:28:38,200 --> 01:28:42,080
Speaker 5: New England was going to check my black jacket. They

1828
01:28:42,160 --> 01:28:44,800
Speaker 5: wanted to see if that thing was really working, and

1829
01:28:44,920 --> 01:28:48,519
Speaker 5: they just, you know, we had a good game against Miami.

1830
01:28:49,760 --> 01:28:54,080
Speaker 5: The passing kind of relieved Earl of running so much

1831
01:28:54,160 --> 01:28:57,600
Speaker 5: that game, and so they were going to come after me.

1832
01:28:57,720 --> 01:29:01,120
Speaker 5: And first couple of plays I think we scored and

1833
01:29:02,200 --> 01:29:04,400
Speaker 5: I think by the end of the first quarter we're

1834
01:29:04,439 --> 01:29:08,840
Speaker 5: up twenty one nothing. So they started backing off from

1835
01:29:08,920 --> 01:29:12,639
Speaker 5: the blitzing, and then we started giving them a little

1836
01:29:12,640 --> 01:29:15,160
Speaker 5: Earl Campbell left and Earl Campbell right and just kind

1837
01:29:15,160 --> 01:29:18,400
Speaker 5: of ran the clock out and bite at our time.

1838
01:29:18,479 --> 01:29:22,320
Speaker 5: But you know, we won that game pretty handily. But yeah,

1839
01:29:22,360 --> 01:29:25,879
Speaker 5: it was it was quite a thing. You know, everybody

1840
01:29:25,960 --> 01:29:30,639
Speaker 5: expected us to lose, you know, But it's funny how

1841
01:29:31,000 --> 01:29:36,480
Speaker 5: you you rise, your conscious level rises in key situations

1842
01:29:36,600 --> 01:29:40,240
Speaker 5: like that. It seems like you got antennae over your body.

1843
01:29:40,479 --> 01:29:44,160
Speaker 5: We're just anticipating things you're seeing things differently than you

1844
01:29:44,280 --> 01:29:47,599
Speaker 5: do in a normal, normal basis, But it brings out

1845
01:29:47,640 --> 01:29:49,760
Speaker 5: the best in every player, and no doubt about it.

1846
01:29:49,800 --> 01:29:52,080
Speaker 5: And I think you're going to see that this week.

1847
01:29:52,280 --> 01:29:55,800
Speaker 5: They've got a great challenge with I like their chances,

1848
01:29:55,880 --> 01:29:57,720
Speaker 5: I really do. If their defense plays like they did,

1849
01:29:58,640 --> 01:30:00,439
Speaker 5: you know, they can shut down anybody. So if you

1850
01:30:00,479 --> 01:30:03,640
Speaker 5: shut down Kelsey, you got some other receivers that are

1851
01:30:03,680 --> 01:30:07,439
Speaker 5: pretty good too, on Hopkins and the other guy. But

1852
01:30:08,400 --> 01:30:10,360
Speaker 5: I think the defense is going to be key. Defense

1853
01:30:10,400 --> 01:30:14,600
Speaker 5: wins championships. It's always been said that way. When you

1854
01:30:14,680 --> 01:30:17,680
Speaker 5: got a good defense, you can win the championship.

1855
01:30:18,560 --> 01:30:20,680
Speaker 1: What's it like, Dan Pastorni joining us by the way,

1856
01:30:20,760 --> 01:30:22,760
Speaker 1: what's it like when you're facing a team for the

1857
01:30:22,920 --> 01:30:25,559
Speaker 1: second time. In the case of that seventy eight year,

1858
01:30:25,600 --> 01:30:28,400
Speaker 1: when you play the Dolphins on wild Card weekend, you

1859
01:30:28,479 --> 01:30:30,320
Speaker 1: were facing it for the third time. Well that was

1860
01:30:30,360 --> 01:30:33,080
Speaker 1: the second time as well, the second time, and then

1861
01:30:33,080 --> 01:30:36,160
Speaker 1: you take on the Patriots you face them earlier that season,

1862
01:30:36,439 --> 01:30:38,840
Speaker 1: and obviously the Steelers you were facing for the third

1863
01:30:38,880 --> 01:30:41,320
Speaker 1: time in the AFC Championship game because they were in

1864
01:30:41,360 --> 01:30:43,360
Speaker 1: the AFC Central. So what is it like when you

1865
01:30:43,439 --> 01:30:45,160
Speaker 1: play a team for the second or third time.

1866
01:30:46,160 --> 01:30:48,880
Speaker 5: Well during the season. New England had us down something

1867
01:30:48,960 --> 01:30:52,880
Speaker 5: like twenty eight to seven at halftime, and we came

1868
01:30:52,960 --> 01:30:55,680
Speaker 5: back and won that game. And that was one of

1869
01:30:55,760 --> 01:30:59,599
Speaker 5: the better wins I think we've ever ever had experience

1870
01:30:59,640 --> 01:31:05,000
Speaker 5: in mind, but we just we were shooting ourselves in

1871
01:31:05,040 --> 01:31:08,400
Speaker 5: the foot. We were jumping off side, holding penalties, were

1872
01:31:08,479 --> 01:31:11,719
Speaker 5: dropping balls, were fumbling. It was just, you know, stop

1873
01:31:11,800 --> 01:31:15,880
Speaker 5: the mistakes and you'll win, and we did. We had

1874
01:31:15,920 --> 01:31:19,519
Speaker 5: a Bumaruski play on a fake field goal. I was

1875
01:31:19,560 --> 01:31:22,880
Speaker 5: holding for Tony Frish and Tim Wilson was stepped back

1876
01:31:22,920 --> 01:31:24,840
Speaker 5: in the right and he just kind of came across

1877
01:31:24,920 --> 01:31:26,840
Speaker 5: the line of scrimmage. Instead of putting the ball down,

1878
01:31:26,880 --> 01:31:29,000
Speaker 5: I threw it to him and he ran for a score.

1879
01:31:29,840 --> 01:31:35,559
Speaker 5: So we had all kinds of things we pulled out

1880
01:31:35,560 --> 01:31:38,200
Speaker 5: of our hat. When you're down like that.

1881
01:31:38,840 --> 01:31:39,800
Speaker 4: What do you have to lose?

1882
01:31:39,920 --> 01:31:40,040
Speaker 5: Right?

1883
01:31:41,240 --> 01:31:44,640
Speaker 1: Absolutely, you were on the road when you played the

1884
01:31:44,720 --> 01:31:47,400
Speaker 1: Patriots that you're in the regular season, so you were

1885
01:31:47,560 --> 01:31:48,439
Speaker 1: there before.

1886
01:31:48,600 --> 01:31:50,479
Speaker 4: And I think this is just my theory.

1887
01:31:50,520 --> 01:31:52,360
Speaker 1: It's got to help the Texans that they were just

1888
01:31:52,560 --> 01:31:56,720
Speaker 1: in this place a month ago and they were competitive

1889
01:31:56,760 --> 01:31:59,160
Speaker 1: in that game, but they lost. What about that factor

1890
01:31:59,320 --> 01:32:01,120
Speaker 1: being on the road with the team in a place

1891
01:32:01,200 --> 01:32:03,880
Speaker 1: that you're familiar with, the environment, et cetera. I know

1892
01:32:03,960 --> 01:32:05,640
Speaker 1: it's a different kind of environment in the playoffs, but

1893
01:32:05,640 --> 01:32:06,679
Speaker 1: at least you've been there before.

1894
01:32:07,640 --> 01:32:11,320
Speaker 5: Well, yeah, it was nothing new. I mean, we'd already

1895
01:32:11,360 --> 01:32:15,120
Speaker 5: experienced being there and being in a hospital environment, being

1896
01:32:15,280 --> 01:32:20,240
Speaker 5: down and coming back. So we just kind of took

1897
01:32:20,280 --> 01:32:22,280
Speaker 5: it to him early and picked up where we left

1898
01:32:22,320 --> 01:32:24,160
Speaker 5: off the last time we played him during the season

1899
01:32:24,439 --> 01:32:25,400
Speaker 5: and just kept it rolling.

1900
01:32:26,600 --> 01:32:29,600
Speaker 1: Dante, What do you see in Demico Ryans as a

1901
01:32:29,720 --> 01:32:32,600
Speaker 1: head coach? Just observing the way he is with the

1902
01:32:32,680 --> 01:32:34,559
Speaker 1: team and the effect he's had on this team through

1903
01:32:34,560 --> 01:32:35,639
Speaker 1: his first couple of seasons.

1904
01:32:36,400 --> 01:32:38,599
Speaker 5: I like him a lot. I think he's the perfect

1905
01:32:38,680 --> 01:32:42,080
Speaker 5: mix for Houston and I think he's a perfect mix

1906
01:32:42,200 --> 01:32:46,439
Speaker 5: for the Texans organization. He's a former player. You know

1907
01:32:46,520 --> 01:32:49,040
Speaker 5: who's going to question his ability. He's played the game,

1908
01:32:49,120 --> 01:32:52,200
Speaker 5: he's been there, he knows what's going on. He's very smart.

1909
01:32:52,240 --> 01:32:55,840
Speaker 5: A team from winning organizations with San Francisco, and the

1910
01:32:55,920 --> 01:32:58,400
Speaker 5: guy's a winner, and he knows how to communicate well

1911
01:32:58,479 --> 01:33:02,959
Speaker 5: with the players. Young enough to be remembered by the players,

1912
01:33:03,760 --> 01:33:05,280
Speaker 5: you know, you get a guy like me coaching and

1913
01:33:05,320 --> 01:33:07,439
Speaker 5: they wouldn't know who that all what, But you know

1914
01:33:07,640 --> 01:33:10,080
Speaker 5: they know this guy and they seen him play and

1915
01:33:10,120 --> 01:33:13,519
Speaker 5: they respect him, and you know you have to respect him.

1916
01:33:13,560 --> 01:33:16,160
Speaker 5: He's a He's a wonderful leader and a wonderful man.

1917
01:33:16,640 --> 01:33:16,960
Speaker 4: Dante.

1918
01:33:17,120 --> 01:33:19,719
Speaker 1: Great to catch up with you, as always, my friend,

1919
01:33:19,800 --> 01:33:21,519
Speaker 1: and we look forward to a big day on Saturday.

1920
01:33:21,560 --> 01:33:22,400
Speaker 4: I know you'll be watching.

1921
01:33:22,600 --> 01:33:24,240
Speaker 5: Thanks Mark, Go Texas, Let's go.

1922
01:33:24,800 --> 01:33:27,680
Speaker 1: There's our conversation with Dan Pastorini. We want to thank

1923
01:33:27,760 --> 01:33:29,519
Speaker 1: everyone who was on the show tonight. Man, we had

1924
01:33:29,560 --> 01:33:33,040
Speaker 1: some great audio tonight, Will Anderson Junior, JJ Watt, Johnny

1925
01:33:33,040 --> 01:33:35,120
Speaker 1: and I chopping it up with big questions. We had

1926
01:33:35,160 --> 01:33:38,320
Speaker 1: Frank Ross, special teams coordinator, began the night with John

1927
01:33:38,400 --> 01:33:40,240
Speaker 1: McClain and the night continues.

1928
01:33:40,760 --> 01:33:42,800
Speaker 4: Area forty five coming up.

1929
01:33:42,880 --> 01:33:44,120
Speaker 1: You want to hear what the guys have to say

1930
01:33:44,120 --> 01:33:46,320
Speaker 1: about this game and everything going on in the world

1931
01:33:46,360 --> 01:33:49,240
Speaker 1: of sports. Thanks so much for listening. Have a great night,

1932
01:33:49,600 --> 01:33:50,360
Speaker 1: Go Texans.