WEBVTT - SYSK’s Summer Movie Playlist: What's the deal with Bond, James Bond?

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, everybody, it's me Josh, and I'd like to welcome

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<v Speaker 1>you to the Stuff You Should Know Summer Movie Playlist.

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<v Speaker 1>It's summertime, and we thought what better way to kick

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<v Speaker 1>off one of the four greatest seasons of the year

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<v Speaker 1>with a focus on movies, Because what scream summer more

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<v Speaker 1>than a nice, darkened, cool, air conditioned theater and a

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<v Speaker 1>great movie playing right in front of you. So we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna start the whole thing off with our July twenty

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<v Speaker 1>ten episode on What's the Deal with Bond? James Bond.

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<v Speaker 1>Hope you enjoy. Welcome to you Stuff you Should Know

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<v Speaker 1>from HowStuffWorks dot Com. Hey, and welcome to the podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Josh Clark. Hi with me is Charles W. Chuck Bryant.

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<v Speaker 2>Bryant, Charles Bryant.

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<v Speaker 1>How is it going, Chuck? It's an odd way to

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<v Speaker 1>introduce yourself, don't you.

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<v Speaker 2>Think not if you're a super spy?

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<v Speaker 1>Are you a superspy? Actually?

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<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't say James Bond was even a spy.

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<v Speaker 1>Secret Service? Is that a spy? Really? No, he was

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<v Speaker 1>an assassin and yeah, just general plot disruptor. I would

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<v Speaker 1>say he was.

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<v Speaker 2>A blunt instrument of the Crown Yeah, if you wanted

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<v Speaker 2>the job done, and you couldn't if you didn't have

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<v Speaker 2>time to worry about you know, the politics or you

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<v Speaker 2>know the diplomacy, that kind of thing.

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<v Speaker 1>You just sent James Bond.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, get jb on the phone double seven. Yeah, he'll

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<v Speaker 2>he'll take care of business. Like Elvis.

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<v Speaker 1>You could call him on his car phone long before

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<v Speaker 1>any car had a phone.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah all right, yeah, he was always pre dating technology.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. As a matter of fact, there's a James Bond

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<v Speaker 1>theory of entrepreneurial innovation.

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<v Speaker 2>I believe that.

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<v Speaker 1>And from Russia with Love nineteen sixty three, he talked.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't remember who he talked to, but he was

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<v Speaker 1>in his car using the phone. Yeah, that was in

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<v Speaker 1>his car, and audiences went nuts for it.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, they were like, oh my god, he's on

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<v Speaker 2>the telephone.

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<v Speaker 1>Right in a car. But that's what they sounded like

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<v Speaker 1>in England though. Oh yeah, well sure that this actually

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<v Speaker 1>Ghana right.

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<v Speaker 2>So Josh, where do we start here? We can't, we

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<v Speaker 2>can't not start with Ian Fleming.

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<v Speaker 1>Ian Fleming, so we gotta start. Let's do it. No,

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<v Speaker 1>that was there was a colon after that.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, Ian Fleming colon was as everyone knows, and if

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<v Speaker 2>you didn't, you need to get out from under your

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<v Speaker 2>rock that you reside in right now. The creator of

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<v Speaker 2>James Bond, right in novel form.

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<v Speaker 1>He was also originally a journalist and a stockbroker, and

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<v Speaker 1>World War Two starts to come around and he joins

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<v Speaker 1>the naval Naval volunteer Royal Navy, Royal Navy, and he

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<v Speaker 1>was actually Chuck did you know assigned as a spy

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<v Speaker 1>himself in Washington, DC.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, sort of a spy, you could call it. He

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<v Speaker 2>was in intelligence and he would occasionally he was an

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<v Speaker 2>administrative guy, but sometimes they would send him out to

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<v Speaker 2>do field work where he would take secret pictures of documents,

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<v Speaker 2>just like in the movies.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you know who was assigned to his spy unit

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<v Speaker 1>James Bond? Yeah, no, there we was the guy who

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<v Speaker 1>was the inspiration for James Bond. His name was William Stevenson,

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<v Speaker 1>aka Intrepid.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, yeah, one of many inspirations.

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<v Speaker 1>Right. But in an interview in The Times in nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>sixty two, Fleming said, you know, James Bond is this

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<v Speaker 1>romanticized version of a spy. Bill Stevenson is the real thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, Well, in romanticized version of himself.

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<v Speaker 1>To an extent. Sure. Another member of that spy ring

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<v Speaker 1>was a guy named Roald Dahl who wrote James and

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<v Speaker 1>the Giant Peach and Charlie and the Chocolate Factory.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and a bunch of body books.

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>He also had the non children's books that were a

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<v Speaker 2>little racier. Yes, not many people know that.

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<v Speaker 1>So Chuck, let's talk a little bit more about Ian Fleming.

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<v Speaker 1>Well give it to us, buddy.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, like I said, he was, he sort

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<v Speaker 2>of James based James bond on kind of I think

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<v Speaker 2>who he wanted to be. He was a playboy. He

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<v Speaker 2>was an island hopper, an adventurer, an adventurer.

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<v Speaker 1>A skier.

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<v Speaker 2>He dove with Jacques Cousteau and you know, snow skied

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<v Speaker 2>from the tops of mountains in Switzerland. And had a

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<v Speaker 2>place in Jamaica where he actually wrote all these books.

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<v Speaker 1>Right. He named the place GoldenEye. And every year he

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<v Speaker 1>would go to Jamaica and write a book. And I

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<v Speaker 1>just want to dig him up and throttle him for that,

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<v Speaker 1>because I mean, what a what a life? Yeah, you know, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's time for me to go to my estate in

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<v Speaker 1>Jamaica and write a book that's going to just make

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<v Speaker 1>me millions more.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, which he did. And he reportedly picked the name

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<v Speaker 2>James Bond because he wanted the most boring name he

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<v Speaker 2>could find for his super secret agent. I think he

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<v Speaker 2>didn't want the name to compete with the actual character,

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<v Speaker 2>Like why bother giving him some fancy name, just shame

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<v Speaker 2>him James Bond and having kick butt.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, you know what the opposite of that is, hack

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<v Speaker 1>saw Jim Duggan.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he should have named him that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well, then it would have competed with the character.

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<v Speaker 2>Duggan hacksaw Jim Dugan. I could hear that? So, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>he wrote. See the article says thirteen novels.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, he wrote thirteen books.

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<v Speaker 2>I got fourteen.

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<v Speaker 1>What's the fourteenth?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I've got twelve novels plus two short story collections

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<v Speaker 2>right for your eyes only, and Octopusy in the Living

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<v Speaker 2>Daylights was another collection. Right, So it seems like it'd

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<v Speaker 2>be easier to find this out. But I literally saw

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<v Speaker 2>two different sets of information.

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<v Speaker 1>Huh, So are we gonna go with fourteen? Because you

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<v Speaker 1>are quite the sniffer, Let's.

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<v Speaker 2>Go with fourteen total? Okay, twelve novels.

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<v Speaker 1>All right? But he wrote I think he wrote the

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<v Speaker 1>novels first maybe or did he write the short story

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<v Speaker 1>books like in between?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they were in between. They were toward the end.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, but so he was getting fat and lazy in Jamaica.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, interestingly though, or maybe it's not that interesting. They

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<v Speaker 2>made the movies way out of order.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah they did.

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<v Speaker 2>The Doctor Now was the first film, but that was

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<v Speaker 2>the sixth novel.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, But did you know that they originally the people

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<v Speaker 1>who made the official Bond movies originally wanted to make Thunderball.

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<v Speaker 1>Thunderball was a story that Ian Fleming came up with

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<v Speaker 1>with another guy who who wanted the rights to make

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<v Speaker 1>a movie out of it. Oh really, that fell through,

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<v Speaker 1>but Ian Fleming went ahead and wrote the story anyway

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<v Speaker 1>that they come up with as Thunderball. The guy sued

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<v Speaker 1>his pants off and actually gained custody gained the rights

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<v Speaker 1>to the book Thunderball, which tied it up and made

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<v Speaker 1>them opt for Doctor No to go first instead.

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<v Speaker 2>There was a lot of litigation over the years in

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<v Speaker 2>the Bond franchise.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, there was.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess when you have a franchise that long and

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<v Speaker 2>that vast, there's going to be people suing people over something.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, plus it's legendary. He's a legendary character, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>he's made a lot of money for a lot of people. Absolutely.

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<v Speaker 2>The other interesting thing I thought just before we move

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<v Speaker 2>on was that Moonraker was written in nineteen fifty five.

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<v Speaker 2>That was the third novel that is insightful, And of

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<v Speaker 2>course there wasn't a space shuttle like they changed the

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<v Speaker 2>setting and all that stuff, but it did involve like

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<v Speaker 2>a nuclear weapon, so you know, kind of odd. And

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<v Speaker 2>a man with a golden gun, which was the Roger

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<v Speaker 2>Moore's second film was the final novel and it was

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<v Speaker 2>released after his death. Huh, so it was way out

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<v Speaker 2>of order.

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<v Speaker 1>And in that one he predicted herve Vasche, which nobody

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<v Speaker 1>saw come in except Ian Fleming. Yeah, you know right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>let's talk about James Bond a little bit, the character

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<v Speaker 1>James Bond. So it turns out James Bond had a

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<v Speaker 1>Scottish father, which it didn't originally.

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<v Speaker 2>Now that came about because of Sean Connedy.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Ian Fleming was not a big fan of Sean

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<v Speaker 1>Connery at first, and then Sean Connery is like, check

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<v Speaker 1>this out, and he made one peck go up while

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<v Speaker 1>the other went down. A bunch of times, and Ian

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<v Speaker 1>Fleming just like clapped and squealed and that was that. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>He was a big fan, and he said, you know

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<v Speaker 1>what you are, James Bond. And he actually went back

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<v Speaker 1>and changed James Bond's history to kind of Matt Sean

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<v Speaker 1>Connery a little bit because he came to see, like,

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<v Speaker 1>this guy is Bond, right, Yeah, So he gave James

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<v Speaker 1>Bond a Scottish father.

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<v Speaker 2>Andrew, and a Swiss mother Monique Delacroix and nice.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and they both died mountain climbing, right.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, When little James was eleven years old, he went

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<v Speaker 2>to the orphanage. And he went to an orphanage. He

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<v Speaker 2>was supposedly born on November eleventh, nineteen twenty, but there

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<v Speaker 2>are different accounts of his birthday and when he was born. Clearly,

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<v Speaker 2>when you have a franchise with Daniel Craig playing him

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<v Speaker 2>in two thousand and eight, he can't be born in

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen twenty.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because Body the exhibition wasn't showing in Miami in

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<v Speaker 1>like nineteen fifty eight or anything.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, there's a sliding scale there obviously to make

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<v Speaker 2>it viable. But James, much like his author namesake, Ian

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<v Speaker 2>Fleming not namesake that would make and change fun much

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<v Speaker 2>like the author Ian Fleming was went to the Royal

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<v Speaker 2>Navy in World War Two, rose to the rank of commander.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes.

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<v Speaker 2>After the war, that's when he entered the sis known

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<v Speaker 2>as mi I six.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, which is the sixth branch of the Military Intelligence Directorate.

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<v Speaker 1>You got that, buddy, right, and his first two assignments chuck, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we're two taps.

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<v Speaker 2>Weren't they assassinations right off the bat?

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<v Speaker 1>So he that's apparently you have to kill two people

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<v Speaker 1>to get a double O status, which is the license

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<v Speaker 1>to kill, and he got them, like you say, right

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<v Speaker 1>off the bat.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and he was the seventh dude to get him.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's where double O seven comes from, right, the

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<v Speaker 2>seventh agent. I shouldn't say dude because they were were

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<v Speaker 2>there female agents? Yeah? There were female agents.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, I'm pretty sure, and we should probably take the

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<v Speaker 1>time here to explain. I like James Bond. I know

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<v Speaker 1>that you like James Bond movies too.

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<v Speaker 2>Is this the disclaimer We're gonna get killed here?

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<v Speaker 1>We are not members of James Bond fandom? I would say,

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<v Speaker 1>all right.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean I've seen all the movies, but no, I

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<v Speaker 2>haven't studied the books.

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<v Speaker 1>I've never read any of the books. I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>i've seen all the movies. Yeah, but I do like

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<v Speaker 1>them in a very recreational manner. So that being said,

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<v Speaker 1>we are not going to get every single thing right here,

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<v Speaker 1>if we're going to walk right past information sure that

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<v Speaker 1>we just don't know exists. So in a very friendly manner,

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<v Speaker 1>if there is anything that you have to say that

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<v Speaker 1>can round this podcast out even further, the more we

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<v Speaker 1>love knowing new things. That's so please let us know,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess is what we're saying. Right.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, they'll let us know. They will, except for the

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<v Speaker 2>three dudes that just turned it off into it Well,

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<v Speaker 2>they have no business even attempting this thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, and then they go give us a one star

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<v Speaker 1>rating on iTunes.

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<v Speaker 2>So back to Bond. He as we all know as

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<v Speaker 2>a sharp dresser, and he loves fast cars. He loves

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<v Speaker 2>his martini shaking nuts stirred. He loves women.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and do you know if you shake a Martine

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<v Speaker 1>instead of stirring it, you pretty much ruin it.

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<v Speaker 2>I disagree, I shake all my martinis.

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<v Speaker 1>Dude, How does it ruin it? It feathers it? I

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<v Speaker 1>think what does that mean it means it's screwed up?

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<v Speaker 2>What does that mean? I like a good dirty martini myself.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh you like them dirty?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, gross, Jared said. Word.

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<v Speaker 1>I like my martini's so light. It's basically this a

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<v Speaker 1>vodka rocks.

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<v Speaker 2>So you just like the vermouth bottle just waved near

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<v Speaker 2>the glass pretty much. I like just a little vermouth,

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<v Speaker 2>little olive juice, but no olive.

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<v Speaker 1>No olive juice. I'll put in all I'll put three

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<v Speaker 1>olives in usually really all right, But then I eat

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<v Speaker 1>him so fast that they have no time to taint

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<v Speaker 1>the martini.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, that's why you're not a super spy. So Josh

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<v Speaker 2>James Bond a couple of the other traits we should

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<v Speaker 2>just mention. He is a martial artist. He's a gifted

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<v Speaker 2>man with his fist and feet or if you're Roger Moore,

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<v Speaker 2>a karate chop. Yeah the karate Oh yeah, yeah, that

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<v Speaker 2>was a big deal in the seventies. And he carried

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<v Speaker 2>a famously carried a Walter PPK handgun thirty two caliber. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's the little guy. Have you ever seen him?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, they're small.

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<v Speaker 1>And I've played Golden nine, played best game. Just played

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<v Speaker 1>Golden Nine. It is a great game.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and you know they're bringing that back for wee.

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<v Speaker 2>I've heard Matt Frederick of Coolest Stuff on the Planet

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<v Speaker 2>told us that they are bringing that back because it's

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<v Speaker 2>still sort of the standard for first person shooters, like

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<v Speaker 2>fifteen years on. Yeah, it's still a great game. So

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<v Speaker 2>they're bringing it back as is, like completely as it was,

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<v Speaker 2>but with better graphics.

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<v Speaker 1>That's gonna be fantastic for the Wii.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, pretty exciting. Back to the real life of the

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<v Speaker 2>Fake Life of James Bond.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why we should have titled this podcast the.

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<v Speaker 2>Real Life of the Fake Life.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>How about uh, let's talk about some of the enemies.

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<v Speaker 1>Doctor No. He was the first one to appear in.

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<v Speaker 2>The films, Doctor Julius, now right, he's.

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<v Speaker 1>An atomic scientist.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he was clearly. Joseph Wiseman played him, and he

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<v Speaker 2>was a great, great villain Goldfinger. You can't talk about

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<v Speaker 2>Bond without talking about Goldfinger.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah he was. Eh, you don't like him, no, not really,

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<v Speaker 1>that was a big Goldfinger guy.

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<v Speaker 2>He tried to laser the crotch of James Bond.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, that's right, pretty hardcore. Yeah, it's like Max Scorpio. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>in that Simpsons where oh yeah, ends up going to

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<v Speaker 1>work for the super villain. Right. Yeah, he's like, no,

0:14:04.040 --> 0:14:06.360
<v Speaker 1>mister Bond, I expect you to die and be a

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<v Speaker 1>very cheap funeral.

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<v Speaker 2>Odd Job was one of my favorite, and he was

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<v Speaker 2>one of Goldman's henchmen in the big Asian guy with

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<v Speaker 2>the bowler hat that he could cut like the head

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<v Speaker 2>off a statue. His hat huge, Yeah, very big dude. Yeah, Jaws.

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<v Speaker 2>We grew up with Roger Moore, so he can't not

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<v Speaker 2>talk about Jaws.

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<v Speaker 1>No, he was great too. He was in two of them, right,

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<v Speaker 1>he was in Moonraker and The Spy Who Loved Me.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought he might have been more than that, but

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<v Speaker 2>he definitely.

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<v Speaker 1>I looked it up.

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<v Speaker 2>He was only in two two really, goy, I made

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<v Speaker 2>quite an impression.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah he did.

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<v Speaker 2>He found the girlfriend in Moonaker I think.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, falls in love or something.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the little like nerdy girl.

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<v Speaker 1>And then he pops up again in Happy Gilmore.

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<v Speaker 2>Was he in that? Yeah? I didn't see that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he was Happy Gilmour's boss, like on the construction

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<v Speaker 1>site and he ends up becoming a.

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<v Speaker 2>Fan and wow, did he have the teeth?

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<v Speaker 1>No, he didn't have the teeth just for the movie.

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<v Speaker 1>But he was a big guy.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, lately, we've had more recent villains that I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think the new villains compare personally.

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<v Speaker 1>They kind of come and go. You know, there's like

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<v Speaker 1>in Casino Royale.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean they're okay, but they're all the villain

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<v Speaker 2>was Yeah. That that like, they're all decent, but they're

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<v Speaker 2>not like iconic characters like they used to be, right, Like, yeah, well,

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<v Speaker 2>Blofeld was the sort of legendary I don't know how

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<v Speaker 2>many movies he was in, but he was played.

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<v Speaker 1>By like Tellis Pleasance.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Donald Pleasance was my favorite version. And Max van

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<v Speaker 2>sea Doll played him, I think, and uh, never say

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<v Speaker 2>never again.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe Max fan he's a class act.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I was, what did I watch the other day? Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>Shutter Island. He's in that. And I told lean over

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<v Speaker 2>to Emily. I was like, you know, I want to

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<v Speaker 2>see Max van Seadal play like a kindly grandfather in

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<v Speaker 2>a movie. I don't think anytime that dude pops up

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<v Speaker 2>in the movie, you're like, oh, well, he's the evil doer, right,

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<v Speaker 2>He's the villain, or so.

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<v Speaker 1>You think until Shutter Island falls apart at the end.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't ruin it so u.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, that was Blofeld. He was the bald guy and

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<v Speaker 2>he was the head of Specter, which was the Special

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<v Speaker 2>executive for Counterintelligence, Terrorism, Revenge and Extortion. Right, it's great

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<v Speaker 2>villainoust title there.

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<v Speaker 1>That's not only like a great name that it's your

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<v Speaker 1>mission statement.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know, all wrapped up into one.

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<v Speaker 1>One of my favorites, mac Zorin, played by the great

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<v Speaker 1>Christopher Walkin. He was he was the dude.

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<v Speaker 2>I know you loved that movie.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the best bomb movies ever, but.

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<v Speaker 2>That had the worst Bond woman ever, Grace Jones. No,

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<v Speaker 2>Tanya Roberts, I don't remember her. She was the Bond girl.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't remember.

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<v Speaker 2>She was the lady from the seventies show that was

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<v Speaker 2>like one of the late Charlie's Angels replacements.

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<v Speaker 1>Tanya Roberts. Yeah, yeah, who cares. It was the eighties,

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<v Speaker 1>nobody was paying that much attention.

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<v Speaker 2>But it was a good song.

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<v Speaker 1>It was, and Christopher Walkin was in it. Grace Jones

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<v Speaker 1>was in it. She was pretty scary in that. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>she was excellent. Talk about a martial artist. But mac

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<v Speaker 1>Zorin is did you know he was the product of

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<v Speaker 1>genetic experiments by Nazis. Walking was well not walking man, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, I don't I don't remember that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. And one of the unintended side effects was he

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<v Speaker 1>was a complete psychopath.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought you were gonna say. One of the side

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<v Speaker 2>effects was his use of punctuation.

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<v Speaker 1>You are good man.

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<v Speaker 2>Everybody does walking.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't do it walking.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's hear it.

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<v Speaker 1>My No, it's really just an altered h John Travolta,

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<v Speaker 1>why are you so weird?

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<v Speaker 2>Dude?

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<v Speaker 1>That's great, of course, Chuck, there's double six Alec Trevlyn.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, what was he? And that was one of the

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<v Speaker 2>Pierce Brosen ones, wasn't it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? I think yeah, which I don't remember those. I

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<v Speaker 1>love Pierce Brosen, Like, oh he was good. The fact that,

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<v Speaker 1>like he wasn't James Bond earlier He's like, oh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna cast Timothy Dalton, are you well, I'll go

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<v Speaker 1>be Remington Steel well jerks. Yeah, And then they tried

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<v Speaker 1>to get him again, right, I think so.

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<v Speaker 2>And he was committed to Remington Steele. Yeah, was sort

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<v Speaker 2>of like James Bond for TV.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh so did he do Remington Steel first? Oh?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he did. Remington Steele. Well, it goes back and forth.

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<v Speaker 2>There was like Timothy Dalton was offered the role before

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<v Speaker 2>Roger Moore. Did you know that?

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<v Speaker 1>No, I didn't.

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<v Speaker 2>When he was twenty one years old. Really he was

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<v Speaker 2>going to replace Sean Connery. Well, and Dalton said, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>too young to play James Bond. And then he comes

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<v Speaker 2>around years later just like to just like uh Brosnen did.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, but I am glad that Pierce Brosnen went in.

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<v Speaker 1>I just happened to think that those his period of

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<v Speaker 1>movies were unfortunate.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought they were pretty good.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't like him. Now I'm really happy with Daniel

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<v Speaker 1>Craig's stuff so far.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you know my statement on that is that was

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<v Speaker 2>the only direction they could take that franchise after the

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<v Speaker 2>Jason Bourne movies. You couldn't have a guy like winking

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<v Speaker 2>at the camera like Roger Moore and like slapstick sounds

0:18:56.119 --> 0:18:59.359
<v Speaker 2>and sound effects. You had to take him into like

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<v Speaker 2>a real bad, bad direction.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, you mean like sim Ohaia bad. Yeah, so Double

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<v Speaker 1>six Alec Trevlyn he is. I think he informs the

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<v Speaker 1>character Alex Krychek from X Files. You think, so, huh,

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<v Speaker 1>very nice Josh.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, So those are some of the villains, clearly

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<v Speaker 2>not all, but we should also talk about some of

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<v Speaker 2>the people that James Bond had working on his side

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<v Speaker 2>at m I six.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, which we will call from here on out

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<v Speaker 1>the superfluous characters.

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<v Speaker 2>No, dude, they're great. M Q M was the head

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<v Speaker 2>of m I six and there were several ms. It

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<v Speaker 2>was just a title, and M was the one that's

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<v Speaker 2>always frustrated with Bond. Yet he knows that he's the

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<v Speaker 2>blunt instrument of choice, you know, pretty much in every movie,

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<v Speaker 2>right que, you.

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<v Speaker 1>Should say he or she for M true Dame Judy

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<v Speaker 1>Dench took over.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, man, she's doing a great job too. Is the

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<v Speaker 2>head of the Q branch, Judy Dench.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you hear that? Chuck just said you were doing

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<v Speaker 1>a great job. So keep it up, Keep.

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<v Speaker 2>It up, Dan Jersey, Dame Dane, Dame Dame.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, she's a Dame.

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<v Speaker 2>Q is the head of the Q branch. I six

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<v Speaker 2>is research and development branch, and Q, as you might know,

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<v Speaker 2>is the guy who in all the films gives James

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<v Speaker 2>his gadgets. There's always that great scene where James goes

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<v Speaker 2>into the laboratory and starts messing around with the gadgets

0:20:28.760 --> 0:20:33.000
<v Speaker 2>and exasperates Q because he's burning something or he's firing

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<v Speaker 2>a missile inside and he shouldn't be.

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<v Speaker 1>That's Q, right, And he's now been replaced by his

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<v Speaker 1>former assistant R.

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<v Speaker 2>Right now is R John Clees?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, he's doing a good job, but he's the

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<v Speaker 1>new Q.

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<v Speaker 2>He just used to be R well because Q died,

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<v Speaker 2>right Lee Ellen, Yes, Chuck, that was the actor that

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<v Speaker 2>played the original Q.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that right?

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<v Speaker 2>Or the Roger More Q that I loved? Right? Who else?

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<v Speaker 1>We got Felix Leiter who I like, Jack Lord Jeffrey

0:21:01.119 --> 0:21:04.879
<v Speaker 1>Wright both played him agent huh. And then there's another

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<v Speaker 1>guy named Hayward Wade. Was he Cia? Yeah?

0:21:09.359 --> 0:21:10.960
<v Speaker 2>I thought they said they didn't know if he was

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<v Speaker 2>Dea or Cia.

0:21:13.240 --> 0:21:16.800
<v Speaker 1>He was around before the Dea was was he? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>And then you've got I think Jack Wade is his name.

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<v Speaker 1>And he was actually played by a couple of people,

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<v Speaker 1>including Joe Don Baker, Oh yeah, Pierce Brosnan ones, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he had a couple of American counterparts.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a good point.

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<v Speaker 1>And little known fact. Joe Don Baker was in Oh

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<v Speaker 1>I can't remember the name of the movie, but it

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<v Speaker 1>was one of the greatest Mister Science Theater three thousands.

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<v Speaker 2>Really yeah, bad movie. And then, of course we have

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<v Speaker 2>to mention Moneypenny. He was M's personal assistant and Moneypenny.

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<v Speaker 2>You always knew Moneypenny because James would come in and

0:21:50.760 --> 0:21:52.760
<v Speaker 2>flirt very much with her. And I always got the

0:21:52.800 --> 0:21:56.040
<v Speaker 2>sense that if James were to ever settle down with anyone,

0:21:56.320 --> 0:21:58.960
<v Speaker 2>which he clearly won't, it would have been Moneypenny sure,

0:21:59.080 --> 0:22:01.320
<v Speaker 2>or at least he made her think that. Right, every

0:22:01.359 --> 0:22:04.439
<v Speaker 2>day was Secretary's day when James Bond was around. He

0:22:04.520 --> 0:22:06.479
<v Speaker 2>was always just so nice to her, bringing her things

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<v Speaker 2>from his travels, shot glasses and stuff.

0:22:09.880 --> 0:22:15.280
<v Speaker 1>Right, spoons, she had an extensive spoon collection, refrigerator, magnets, Chuck, Josh,

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<v Speaker 1>let's talk about the movie show. Yeah, sure, well, let's

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<v Speaker 1>talk about James Bond on screen, because it wasn't necessarily

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<v Speaker 1>just relegated to the movies.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, good point.

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<v Speaker 1>So James Bond first appears on screen on the small

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<v Speaker 1>screen on a CBS TV series called Climax with an

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<v Speaker 1>exclamation point really yeah wow, And he was first played

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<v Speaker 1>by a guy named Barry Nelson. Barry Nelson, you may

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<v Speaker 1>recognize as mister Olman, the manager of the Overlook in

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<v Speaker 1>Kubrick's The Shining who tells Jack Torris the ropes. That's

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<v Speaker 1>the first guy to ever play James Bond.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow? Was he English?

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<v Speaker 1>No?

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<v Speaker 2>American?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, CBS TV series.

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<v Speaker 2>So we've had a Scotsman's quite a few Englishmen, an

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<v Speaker 2>American and an Australian And what what do you mean Australian?

0:23:05.800 --> 0:23:09.440
<v Speaker 2>I mean someone from Australia. That was George Lazenby was Australian?

0:23:09.920 --> 0:23:12.119
<v Speaker 1>Was it? You know what happened to him? Well, he

0:23:12.240 --> 0:23:14.560
<v Speaker 1>wasn't much of an actor. Well, it wasn't just that

0:23:14.840 --> 0:23:17.959
<v Speaker 1>he after the success of his Bond movie. I mean,

0:23:18.000 --> 0:23:20.520
<v Speaker 1>he played James Bond and it was you know, filmed

0:23:20.560 --> 0:23:24.520
<v Speaker 1>and produced and released on Her Majesty's Secret Service, Right,

0:23:25.440 --> 0:23:28.640
<v Speaker 1>he was like, holy Colm, James Bond and I'm going

0:23:28.680 --> 0:23:30.280
<v Speaker 1>to buy a boat and sail around the world for

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<v Speaker 1>a while. And he came back and his star had

0:23:32.640 --> 0:23:35.040
<v Speaker 1>already faded because he did one thing and that was that.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh really yeah, yeah, he kind of blew it. He

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't much of an actor either, It wasn't but it

0:23:39.840 --> 0:23:43.280
<v Speaker 1>wasn't just that. It was yeah, it was a combination

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<v Speaker 1>of those two things.

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<v Speaker 2>He was a bad dude though, like he he got

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<v Speaker 2>the role apparently because he impressed Ian Fleming because he

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<v Speaker 2>had a faux fight scene with a wrestler for his

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<v Speaker 2>audition and he actually punched the guy, like got mad

0:23:55.040 --> 0:23:57.040
<v Speaker 2>and punched him, and Flemings like this is hard, dude.

0:23:57.119 --> 0:24:00.840
<v Speaker 1>Wow. Yeah, because Fleming wrote the Bond character much darker.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the novel character for sure.

0:24:03.240 --> 0:24:06.720
<v Speaker 1>Like Roger Moore took it in a very awful director

0:24:06.760 --> 0:24:10.080
<v Speaker 1>specific direction. You know that was not the least bit

0:24:10.240 --> 0:24:12.280
<v Speaker 1>like how Ian Fleming had written them.

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<v Speaker 2>You're the ultimate Roger Moore apologist. He's good in the

0:24:16.840 --> 0:24:20.080
<v Speaker 2>Saint and that's why I got the role, I think. Okay,

0:24:20.160 --> 0:24:23.120
<v Speaker 2>the TV show The Saint, all right, So Chuck, let's

0:24:23.160 --> 0:24:25.359
<v Speaker 2>get back to the beginning again. So we talked about

0:24:25.359 --> 0:24:29.280
<v Speaker 2>Barry Nelson and on the big screen, the first Bond

0:24:29.359 --> 0:24:32.760
<v Speaker 2>ever was Sean Connery. Right, well they did. They did

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<v Speaker 2>a pilot though on TV as well.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the Barry Nelson one. Oh it was called Casino

0:24:37.160 --> 0:24:41.440
<v Speaker 1>Royale though no, right, it was based on Casino Royal Climax, Okay,

0:24:41.480 --> 0:24:43.040
<v Speaker 1>which I think you know how they used to do

0:24:43.119 --> 0:24:46.320
<v Speaker 1>like they would they would have the name of the series,

0:24:46.320 --> 0:24:48.960
<v Speaker 1>but then there there'd be like different like like Wonderful

0:24:48.960 --> 0:24:51.399
<v Speaker 1>World of Disney. Yeah, it was like the name of

0:24:51.440 --> 0:24:53.760
<v Speaker 1>the series, but then there were different like documentaries or

0:24:53.800 --> 0:24:56.000
<v Speaker 1>gotcha tunes or whatever. Okay, I think it was like

0:24:56.080 --> 0:24:57.959
<v Speaker 1>that and that flopped and I didn't know what they

0:24:57.960 --> 0:24:59.280
<v Speaker 1>were doing with TV back in the day.

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<v Speaker 2>They had no idea.

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<v Speaker 1>So, yeah, you're right.

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<v Speaker 2>Doctor NOA was the first film in nineteen sixty two,

0:25:05.160 --> 0:25:10.520
<v Speaker 2>and there's been twenty two in total. No, yes, and

0:25:10.560 --> 0:25:13.640
<v Speaker 2>we're waiting. And that's official Bond films because they parodied

0:25:13.720 --> 0:25:16.800
<v Speaker 2>him in other things what he Allen played him for

0:25:16.840 --> 0:25:17.400
<v Speaker 2>Heaven's Sake.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, in the parody he did of Casino Royale. Yeah,

0:25:23.119 --> 0:25:29.520
<v Speaker 1>there's also an unofficial Bond film with an official Bond right,

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<v Speaker 1>let's hear it, Never Say Never Again.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that was Conrie's That was also fraught with the lawsuits.

0:25:36.920 --> 0:25:39.400
<v Speaker 1>You know, that was based on the Thunderball lawsuit.

0:25:39.520 --> 0:25:41.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they remade Thunderball, right, and.

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<v Speaker 1>They named it Never Say Never Again because Conrie had

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<v Speaker 1>said after nineteen seventy one that he'd never play Bond again.

0:25:48.160 --> 0:25:50.520
<v Speaker 1>Because he played Bond what for the first like six

0:25:50.600 --> 0:25:52.440
<v Speaker 1>movies something like that.

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<v Speaker 2>One, two, three, four, five, and then George Lazenby then

0:25:57.119 --> 0:25:59.720
<v Speaker 2>he came back and did Diamonds or Forever.

0:25:59.560 --> 0:26:02.679
<v Speaker 1>And then after after that Kime Roger Moore. Yes, and

0:26:02.720 --> 0:26:06.600
<v Speaker 1>then Roger Moore had a pretty good run. So Sean

0:26:06.640 --> 0:26:10.320
<v Speaker 1>Connery stops playing Bond. George Lazenby comes along, does it.

0:26:10.359 --> 0:26:14.440
<v Speaker 1>Once leaves, Sean Connery has to come back another time.

0:26:14.800 --> 0:26:18.080
<v Speaker 1>After Sean Connery, they get Roger Moore. In the midst

0:26:18.080 --> 0:26:22.200
<v Speaker 1>of Roger Moore's run, Sean Connery makes another Bond film.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what we were kids, twelve years after the last

0:26:25.160 --> 0:26:25.840
<v Speaker 1>one he'd made.

0:26:25.920 --> 0:26:29.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, right, and yeah, Kim Beasinger was the Bond checking

0:26:29.840 --> 0:26:30.080
<v Speaker 2>that one.

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<v Speaker 1>She was and they called it never Say Never Again

0:26:32.640 --> 0:26:34.680
<v Speaker 1>because he'd said that he would never play Bond again.

0:26:34.800 --> 0:26:40.080
<v Speaker 2>Never Trebek That's what he said, right, Timothy Dalton, I

0:26:40.080 --> 0:26:41.800
<v Speaker 2>guess we might as well venture into his years.

0:26:42.040 --> 0:26:45.399
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I saw those when they first came out, like

0:26:45.480 --> 0:26:47.800
<v Speaker 1>in the theaters, and I didn't think anything of them.

0:26:47.800 --> 0:26:49.520
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if they were over my head or whatever,

0:26:49.600 --> 0:26:50.600
<v Speaker 1>but I didn't like them.

0:26:50.640 --> 0:26:53.000
<v Speaker 2>They were pretty good living daylights and licensed to kill.

0:26:53.040 --> 0:26:55.239
<v Speaker 2>They were both are they good. Really, Yeah, I mean

0:26:55.600 --> 0:26:58.320
<v Speaker 2>it was definitely a more novelistic Bond, like he was

0:26:58.520 --> 0:27:02.720
<v Speaker 2>darker and little more bad dude, and that, I mean

0:27:02.800 --> 0:27:03.919
<v Speaker 2>it might have had something to do with it was

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<v Speaker 2>coming off the heels of Roger Moore in his vaudeville

0:27:06.720 --> 0:27:10.600
<v Speaker 2>act that he brought to Bond and Dalton had a

0:27:10.600 --> 0:27:13.439
<v Speaker 2>two picture run and then was replaced by who everyone

0:27:13.440 --> 0:27:17.480
<v Speaker 2>thought should have been Bond before Dalton, Pierce Brosnan for one, two, three,

0:27:17.600 --> 0:27:21.200
<v Speaker 2>four films, right, and then they went the inevitable direction

0:27:21.280 --> 0:27:25.359
<v Speaker 2>with a blond bond with Daniel Craig.

0:27:25.480 --> 0:27:26.680
<v Speaker 1>Is that inevitable you think?

0:27:26.840 --> 0:27:29.080
<v Speaker 2>Well, I meant the inevitable way of making him a

0:27:29.119 --> 0:27:32.080
<v Speaker 2>tough dude. But yeah, his blondness was not inevitable.

0:27:32.880 --> 0:27:34.800
<v Speaker 1>You know. You make fun of Roger Moore, but he

0:27:34.840 --> 0:27:37.320
<v Speaker 1>had a seven picture stint as James Bond.

0:27:37.680 --> 0:27:40.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, and that was our childhood, trust me, dude.

0:27:40.119 --> 0:27:42.359
<v Speaker 2>At the time, I loved it. But then when I

0:27:42.400 --> 0:27:45.520
<v Speaker 2>got older, I revisited all of the Sean Connerys, and

0:27:45.520 --> 0:27:48.879
<v Speaker 2>then I saw the butt kickingness of Timothy Dalton and

0:27:48.920 --> 0:27:50.639
<v Speaker 2>now Daniel Craig, And now I'm kind of like Roger

0:27:50.640 --> 0:27:54.080
<v Speaker 2>Moore was kind of a joke to me. Now you

0:27:54.119 --> 0:27:54.879
<v Speaker 2>still stand by it?

0:27:54.960 --> 0:27:56.840
<v Speaker 1>I do, all right. I like Roger Moore.

0:27:57.200 --> 0:27:58.680
<v Speaker 2>Sam Neil was considered at one point.

0:27:59.520 --> 0:28:02.280
<v Speaker 1>I could see him as James Bond. He was great

0:28:02.280 --> 0:28:03.000
<v Speaker 1>and dead calm.

0:28:04.040 --> 0:28:05.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that was a good movie.

0:28:05.720 --> 0:28:08.120
<v Speaker 1>You know, I don't know that this even qualifies as

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<v Speaker 1>a podcast.

0:28:12.320 --> 0:28:14.720
<v Speaker 2>People canna be like you guys are just kind of

0:28:14.760 --> 0:28:16.680
<v Speaker 2>chit chatting, Chuck.

0:28:16.800 --> 0:28:21.520
<v Speaker 1>There's also theories, tons of the best one actually, the

0:28:21.560 --> 0:28:24.080
<v Speaker 1>only one I could find really is the code name theory.

0:28:24.280 --> 0:28:24.800
<v Speaker 1>Have you heard this?

0:28:25.359 --> 0:28:26.679
<v Speaker 2>I have not cracked.

0:28:26.720 --> 0:28:31.240
<v Speaker 1>I got a lot of publicity for it. By It's

0:28:31.240 --> 0:28:35.439
<v Speaker 1>a fan theory that basically says, James Bond is a

0:28:35.960 --> 0:28:38.680
<v Speaker 1>it's a name that goes along with double O seven.

0:28:39.360 --> 0:28:43.040
<v Speaker 1>And there's each actor was playing an actual different person

0:28:43.600 --> 0:28:48.560
<v Speaker 1>who had assumed this undercover name James Bond. Really, which

0:28:48.600 --> 0:28:53.160
<v Speaker 1>explains the changes in personality. Yeah, it explains why Sean

0:28:53.200 --> 0:28:56.200
<v Speaker 1>Connery was so suave and Roger Moore was so goofy. Sure,

0:28:56.560 --> 0:28:59.760
<v Speaker 1>explains why Daniel Craig and Timothy Dalton were so violent, right,

0:29:00.840 --> 0:29:04.280
<v Speaker 1>It explains a lot of stuff. Actually explains George Lazenbe's

0:29:04.320 --> 0:29:07.920
<v Speaker 1>departure because his wife the only time James Bond has

0:29:07.960 --> 0:29:12.040
<v Speaker 1>ever been married died in that one honor her Majesty's

0:29:12.040 --> 0:29:12.680
<v Speaker 1>Secret Service.

0:29:12.720 --> 0:29:14.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he had a wife most people don't.

0:29:14.200 --> 0:29:17.800
<v Speaker 1>Know, and she was killed by Blofeld. Right, so he

0:29:17.920 --> 0:29:22.720
<v Speaker 1>leaves after that. That explains that, right, absolutely. There's actually

0:29:22.720 --> 0:29:23.640
<v Speaker 1>holes in that theory.

0:29:24.440 --> 0:29:25.200
<v Speaker 2>Do you know them?

0:29:25.360 --> 0:29:28.680
<v Speaker 1>I know a couple like, for example, George Lazenbee recognized

0:29:28.720 --> 0:29:33.320
<v Speaker 1>gadgets that were debuted during Sean Connery's tenure. He was

0:29:33.360 --> 0:29:35.840
<v Speaker 1>a new person, he would it would be new to him.

0:29:35.880 --> 0:29:38.800
<v Speaker 1>He'd be like, what's his start gun? Right? Exactly right?

0:29:39.640 --> 0:29:43.320
<v Speaker 1>And I think the spy who loved me, Roger Moore

0:29:43.400 --> 0:29:47.600
<v Speaker 1>is recognized from his college days at Cambridge as James Bond,

0:29:48.080 --> 0:29:50.200
<v Speaker 1>which would mean that he was using the name before then.

0:29:50.360 --> 0:29:53.200
<v Speaker 1>But it's still a pretty cool theory. If you want

0:29:53.240 --> 0:29:56.400
<v Speaker 1>any cool theory shot down, I recommend you go to

0:29:56.520 --> 0:30:00.800
<v Speaker 1>Commander Bond dot net, m I six do co dot

0:30:00.880 --> 0:30:04.440
<v Speaker 1>uk or James bondwiki dot com. Those are some good sites.

0:30:05.240 --> 0:30:08.760
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to retrack my Roger more bashing a little bit. Okay,

0:30:08.840 --> 0:30:12.280
<v Speaker 2>I actually liked like four out of seven of his films.

0:30:12.640 --> 0:30:14.560
<v Speaker 1>Okay, see, so you're right.

0:30:15.040 --> 0:30:18.400
<v Speaker 2>I forget sometimes I forget about the awesomeness of Live

0:30:18.440 --> 0:30:20.640
<v Speaker 2>and Let Die and Man with a Golden Gun for

0:30:20.720 --> 0:30:22.360
<v Speaker 2>your Eyes Only. Those are all pretty good. It was

0:30:22.400 --> 0:30:27.000
<v Speaker 2>like Octopussy, Moonraker was really silly, does not age well

0:30:27.520 --> 0:30:30.760
<v Speaker 2>at all, and uh, you do a kill? I just

0:30:30.760 --> 0:30:31.520
<v Speaker 2>can't get behind him.

0:30:31.520 --> 0:30:34.960
<v Speaker 1>You do a kill is awesome. What about the Spy

0:30:35.000 --> 0:30:37.200
<v Speaker 1>who Loved Me? That's the one with the greater water lotus?

0:30:37.400 --> 0:30:38.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Yeah, great, great movie.

0:30:39.280 --> 0:30:42.280
<v Speaker 1>And I have one last fact. Are you ready? Oh yeah,

0:30:42.480 --> 0:30:48.520
<v Speaker 1>the legendary Bond producer co producer Albert Cubby Broccli. Yeah,

0:30:48.560 --> 0:30:52.360
<v Speaker 1>his family invented broccoli. They crossed cauliflower with rabe and

0:30:52.440 --> 0:30:54.720
<v Speaker 1>invented broccley. And he actually left the family farm to

0:30:54.760 --> 0:30:56.800
<v Speaker 1>go to Hollywood to pursue his fortune when he was

0:30:56.800 --> 0:30:57.320
<v Speaker 1>like eighteen.

0:30:57.440 --> 0:30:58.200
<v Speaker 2>Are you making this up?

0:30:58.240 --> 0:30:58.600
<v Speaker 1>I am not.

0:30:58.880 --> 0:30:59.840
<v Speaker 2>He invented broccoli.

0:31:00.040 --> 0:31:03.160
<v Speaker 1>His family did is like parents, grandparents. That's a pretty

0:31:03.160 --> 0:31:05.080
<v Speaker 1>good fact, Rockley, very cool.

0:31:05.640 --> 0:31:08.360
<v Speaker 2>Good for him. They're in trouble now though, because MGM

0:31:08.440 --> 0:31:08.959
<v Speaker 2>is in trouble.

0:31:09.720 --> 0:31:11.720
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but they're saying like it's just a blip on

0:31:11.760 --> 0:31:14.880
<v Speaker 1>the radar. If you listen to any anybuddy who's attached

0:31:14.880 --> 0:31:16.000
<v Speaker 1>to the Bond twenty three.

0:31:16.320 --> 0:31:19.360
<v Speaker 2>Oh, it'll happen at some point, but it's like fine, Yeah,

0:31:19.400 --> 0:31:22.720
<v Speaker 2>it's being delayed big time though, because MGM's and over

0:31:22.760 --> 0:31:23.680
<v Speaker 2>their heads financially.

0:31:24.080 --> 0:31:28.120
<v Speaker 1>If you know anything about MGM, if you're an insider, MGM,

0:31:28.160 --> 0:31:29.960
<v Speaker 1>we want to hear from you. Let us know what's

0:31:30.000 --> 0:31:30.760
<v Speaker 1>going on with Bond.

0:31:30.880 --> 0:31:33.760
<v Speaker 2>That's funny, we should. We got to talk about Bond girls.

0:31:34.080 --> 0:31:38.240
<v Speaker 2>That's one of the hallmarks of Bond films. And usually

0:31:38.280 --> 0:31:42.320
<v Speaker 2>there's two Bond girls. At least there's like a hot

0:31:42.440 --> 0:31:46.959
<v Speaker 2>villain and like a hot an aid that helps him

0:31:47.000 --> 0:31:49.000
<v Speaker 2>out in some way. Sometimes she turns out to be

0:31:49.040 --> 0:31:51.680
<v Speaker 2>a villain. But there's usually two Bond girls and he's

0:31:51.880 --> 0:31:56.080
<v Speaker 2>equally attracted to both. Like Grace Jones, Yeah, he's attracted

0:31:56.120 --> 0:32:00.640
<v Speaker 2>her for some reason. They are fem fatales. Like I said,

0:32:01.040 --> 0:32:03.280
<v Speaker 2>Bond cannot help but fall for them, even though they

0:32:03.360 --> 0:32:06.880
<v Speaker 2>it might mean he has to eventually kill them after

0:32:06.960 --> 0:32:11.960
<v Speaker 2>he makes sweet love to them. Right, And I'm gonna

0:32:11.960 --> 0:32:14.120
<v Speaker 2>go ahead and ask you what your favorite Bond girl is.

0:32:14.960 --> 0:32:20.400
<v Speaker 1>I just recently realized that Carrie Lowell was a Bond girl.

0:32:20.520 --> 0:32:23.280
<v Speaker 1>And I used to have the biggest crush on her

0:32:23.520 --> 0:32:28.400
<v Speaker 1>when I would watch Wild Orcid no Law and Order

0:32:28.440 --> 0:32:31.080
<v Speaker 1>reruns on A and E. Yeah, they used to show

0:32:31.120 --> 0:32:33.160
<v Speaker 1>like Law and Order for like eight hour blocks on

0:32:33.280 --> 0:32:35.280
<v Speaker 1>A and E and I'd be like, I'm not going

0:32:35.280 --> 0:32:37.120
<v Speaker 1>to class to day, I'm just gonna watch Law and Order.

0:32:37.240 --> 0:32:40.120
<v Speaker 1>And she was on a lot of them. Yeah, she

0:32:40.160 --> 0:32:41.520
<v Speaker 1>would be my favorite Bond girl.

0:32:41.680 --> 0:32:45.960
<v Speaker 2>I'm going with Ursula Andres. Yeah, she was hot dude

0:32:46.040 --> 0:32:48.520
<v Speaker 2>back in the day. She played Honey Rider. And that's

0:32:48.560 --> 0:32:52.000
<v Speaker 2>another hallmark of the Bond women is they usually had

0:32:52.640 --> 0:32:56.240
<v Speaker 2>really awful names that hinted it sexual innu Window.

0:32:57.520 --> 0:33:00.240
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know, plenty o tool An.

0:33:00.280 --> 0:33:05.400
<v Speaker 2>Ryder, pussy Galore, uh, actually Solitaire, Jane Seymour, she was

0:33:05.400 --> 0:33:07.560
<v Speaker 2>pretty good and Living let Die like that.

0:33:07.680 --> 0:33:09.520
<v Speaker 1>She was actually a really good actor. Okay.

0:33:10.240 --> 0:33:15.600
<v Speaker 2>Moonraker of course had a holly goodhead and a view

0:33:15.640 --> 0:33:20.160
<v Speaker 2>to a kill. I had Tanya Rarts as Stacy Sutton.

0:33:20.760 --> 0:33:21.920
<v Speaker 2>They didn't even give her a cool.

0:33:21.840 --> 0:33:26.720
<v Speaker 1>Name, So, Chuck, what's the best Bond theme song? Well,

0:33:26.960 --> 0:33:28.440
<v Speaker 1>let me take a wild guess.

0:33:29.720 --> 0:33:33.080
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna say Live and Let Die is probably my favorite.

0:33:33.120 --> 0:33:36.120
<v Speaker 1>Because I would have put a thousand dollars on that or.

0:33:38.040 --> 0:33:41.880
<v Speaker 2>What's her name? Carly Simon, spy who loved me? Nobody

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<v Speaker 2>does it better?

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<v Speaker 1>Love that song best Bond theme song. If it's not

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<v Speaker 1>You Do a Kill? Okay, if it's not that, it

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<v Speaker 1>is Nancy Sinatra singing You Only Live Twice?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that was awesome. Yes it was Shirley Bassie. Just

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<v Speaker 2>another little factoid.

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<v Speaker 1>She did.

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<v Speaker 2>No, she did more than that. She did gold Finger,

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<v Speaker 2>she did Diamonds or Forever, she did Moonraker, Moon Raker's

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<v Speaker 2>that's three total. I was also a big fan of

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<v Speaker 2>She and Easton's For Your Eyes Only. Yes, she did

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<v Speaker 2>go and readA Coolidge all time high from Octopussy.

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<v Speaker 1>Didn't Tom Jones do Thunderball or something?

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<v Speaker 2>He did?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>He did Thunderball. And since we're talking about the songs

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<v Speaker 2>that have really gotten lame in recent years, like the

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<v Speaker 2>Chris Cornellen and Garbage, you probably didn't even remember they

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<v Speaker 2>did songs.

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<v Speaker 1>Garbage did the one for World Is Not Enough?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh okay, Pierce Brosnan, Yeah, and Sheryl Crowe did one,

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<v Speaker 2>did she really?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>And Madonna did one and and now it's gotten to

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<v Speaker 2>the point where they're just like, like the last one

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<v Speaker 2>they put Jack White with Alicia Keys.

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<v Speaker 1>Up next is Miley Cyrus. Oh God, say it ain't

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<v Speaker 1>so fond twenty three?

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<v Speaker 2>What else do we have here?

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<v Speaker 1>This is the podcast that won't die, No I do.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like James Bond, It just goes on.

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<v Speaker 2>I do have a couple of more facts.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Well, first of all, before.

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<v Speaker 2>You move on, if we're going to talk about the songs,

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<v Speaker 2>we need to talk about the opening sequences, the title sequences.

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<v Speaker 2>When you're a young Baptist boy and there are naked,

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<v Speaker 2>silhouetted women jumping on trampolines.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's very titillating and arousing and arousing for a

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<v Speaker 1>young boy named Chuck. I'm titillated and aroused.

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<v Speaker 2>And then the opening sequence of the films typically is

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<v Speaker 2>some awesome action scene and then the title sequence comes up.

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<v Speaker 2>There'll be like a seven minute action scene.

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<v Speaker 1>Right. They call it a cold opening, Buddy, a cold opening.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh huh. That's very nice.

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<v Speaker 2>And I just got a couple of more facts for you, Josh,

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<v Speaker 2>And then I'll let you put this to bed, all

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<v Speaker 2>right with it? What would you say is the highest

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<v Speaker 2>grossing Bond film of all time adjusted.

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<v Speaker 1>Gross adjusted gross? I would say Casino Royale, No.

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<v Speaker 2>Top two all time Thunderball and gold Finger. You're a

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<v Speaker 2>liar adjusted gross.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, Casino Royale worldwide knitted like almost six hundred

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<v Speaker 1>million dollars so far.

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<v Speaker 2>A bunch of money. Thunderball and Goldfinger did more, did

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<v Speaker 2>they really? Yeah? Thunderball and nineteen sixty five dude, gross

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<v Speaker 2>to one hundred and forty one million dollars?

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<v Speaker 1>What and is that worldwide or us?

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<v Speaker 2>That's worldwide? And that is close to what licensed to

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<v Speaker 2>Kill gross in nineteen eighty nine that grows like one

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<v Speaker 2>hundred and fifty something and Thunderball, you know, thirty years

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<v Speaker 2>more gross one hundred and forty one million.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, But what I'm saying is Casino Royale gross six

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<v Speaker 1>hundred million?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I mean, yeah, that's not an adjusted gross though

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<v Speaker 2>you can't compare.

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<v Speaker 1>You're figuring inflation in Yeah, that's what it's called an

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<v Speaker 1>adjusted gross.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's about it. I mean, we could say the

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<v Speaker 2>cars he used real quickly, the Aston Martin obviously.

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<v Speaker 1>My favorite is the Lotus, the Lotus.

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<v Speaker 2>The Alpha Romeo and then that new Audi that's pretty cool.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you like the Audi?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah it looks awesome, Okay, but missed the Lotus in

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<v Speaker 2>the fact that it could also be a submarine.

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<v Speaker 1>And lastly, Chuck, I would like to say to all

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<v Speaker 1>the kids of our generation, if you ever noticed a

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<v Speaker 1>similarity between Inspector Gadget and James Bond, you were dead on.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah you think so?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? All right, So that's about it. If you want

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<v Speaker 1>to know more about James Bond, Like I said, there

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<v Speaker 1>are three, at least three really good websites for all

0:37:28.480 --> 0:37:31.839
<v Speaker 1>things Bond fandom. You can check out our website by

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<v Speaker 1>the handy search bar. And now, if you can believe it,

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<v Speaker 1>it is time for listener mail.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, Josh, I'm gonna call this samurai stuff from Thomas Guys.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a total samurai geek. I practiced Japanese sword based

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<v Speaker 2>martial arts, kendo and ayado. I've read all this material

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<v Speaker 2>about samurai and your podcast was a very good introduction,

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<v Speaker 2>and I thank you for it. However, I am kind

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<v Speaker 2>of surprised you did not mention the greatest samurai of

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<v Speaker 2>all time, Miyamoto Musashi. This guy was the epitome of

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<v Speaker 2>everything samurai were supposed to be. A dedicated soyvant, a poet,

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<v Speaker 2>a painter, a calligrapher, philosopher, a general, and an all

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<v Speaker 2>round butt kicking killer. Not only did he write the

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<v Speaker 2>Book of Five Rings, he also killed sixty men in

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<v Speaker 2>single combat before age forty, not to mention all the

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<v Speaker 2>guys he killed in warfare. At one point in your

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<v Speaker 2>podcast you talked about the wooden katana called bokung in Japanese. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>it was a practice sword, Josh, but it was also

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<v Speaker 2>a weapon in its own right. Because Japan is such

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<v Speaker 2>a wet climate, swords were sometimes destroyed by rust. Bokan

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<v Speaker 2>were cheap and easy to replace, and Musashi was famous

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<v Speaker 2>for winning some of his greatest battles with the wooden sword.

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<v Speaker 2>Ow I know, can you imagine dude.

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<v Speaker 1>Owyh uh coving smacked to death.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, he says instead of cutting someone's heads off, he

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<v Speaker 2>would brain them, which I guess means like the skull

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<v Speaker 2>until their brains come out. Also, he was a big

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<v Speaker 2>fan of using two swords at one time, sometimes two katana,

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<v Speaker 2>sometimes the short and the long, whatever it took to

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<v Speaker 2>do the job. You guys, Rocket love your show. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>grateful for the Samurai show from Thomas.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, thank you Thomas for the extra information. As I said,

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<v Speaker 1>we are always interested in knowing everything we possibly can

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