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Speaker 1: the Official Cults Podcast, presented by win Bat. I'm JJ Stankobitz,

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Speaker 1: and play. And then I think having Isaiah Rogers, I

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Speaker 1: think each year we've seen what he can do and

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Speaker 1: the things that he can do out there in the

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Speaker 1: football field to help the secondary, to help the defense.

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Speaker 1: And I think the more reps he gets, the better

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Speaker 1: he's going to be. And I think he's someone that

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Speaker 1: can step in and step up there and do a

436
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Speaker 1: good job and yes, they're gonna miss Stefan Gilmore. He

437
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Speaker 1: had a good year last year for the Coats, no

438
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Speaker 1: doubt about that. A guy that's a pro, a guy

439
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Speaker 1: that's been been out there before and made some big

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Speaker 1: plays for the Colts, won some games for the Coats

441
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Speaker 1: last year or so, they're gonna miss Stefan Gilmore. But

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Speaker 1: I think they have guys right now on this team

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Speaker 1: that can go in there and do a job and

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Speaker 1: do a job efficiently. All Right, So as we're potting

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Speaker 1: right now, I'm seeing some news come out about rule changes.

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Speaker 1: It looks like there's only one rule that will be changed.

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Speaker 1: But before we tell you what that is, here are

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Speaker 1: the three. There are four notable rules that NFL owners

449
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Speaker 1: were going to vote on this week. So one of

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Speaker 1: them was the third quarterback rule. Teams to be allowed

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Speaker 1: to carry forty seven active players on game day, but

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Speaker 1: that extra player instead of forty six you could carry

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Speaker 1: forty seven would have to be a quarterback. So that

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Speaker 1: was one that I love. This one the fourth and

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Speaker 1: fifteen alternative to the onside kick, where teams would have

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Speaker 1: the option to convert a fourth and fifteen from their

457
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Speaker 1: own twenty five yard line instead of kicking an onside kick.

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Speaker 1: The XFL uses this rule, and actually a team converted

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Speaker 1: on it. I think that was the St. Louis battle Hawks.

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Speaker 1: If if I recall correctly roughing the passer, the RAMS

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Speaker 1: proposed rule that roughing the passer could be reviewed and

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Speaker 1: then zero allowed on jerseys, that teams could start issuing

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Speaker 1: a number zero jersey to players. So now that we've

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Speaker 1: been through all those, let me just tell you the

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Speaker 1: only one of those that was voted on and passed.

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Speaker 1: Players can now wear number zero. But guys, guys, beyond

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Speaker 1: that is this is wild because you see this at

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Speaker 1: the college level, there is hold on, let me find

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Speaker 1: where I just saw this. Punters and kickers can now

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Speaker 1: where zero to forty nine and ninety to ninety nine

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Speaker 1: like you see in college football there's always like that,

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Speaker 1: Like one kicker who wears like ninety three and shanks

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Speaker 1: a twenty two yard field goal. Now you too can

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Speaker 1: see that in the NFL. You know, I may be

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Speaker 1: way wrong on this, but I feel like Kansas States

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Speaker 1: kickers always wear nineties, and I maybe I don't know

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Speaker 1: why Kansas State runs to me, maybe Earth do you

478
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Speaker 1: watch that much Kansas State? This goes back to when

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Speaker 1: I used to play, Like when when they used to

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Speaker 1: have college football video games, and you would like, you know,

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Speaker 1: you're a new coach and you look at the available

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Speaker 1: job openings in Kansas State, was typically one of those

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Speaker 1: on one of those games, and it's got fired again,

484
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Speaker 1: right exactly. So for some reason, I always feel like

485
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Speaker 1: the kicker on those games was like ninety seven. So

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Speaker 1: I don't know why that is coming to me, but

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Speaker 1: that I cannot right there. I cannot think of, honestly

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Speaker 1: a worse number for a kicker than like forty two.

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Speaker 1: Give them a single dud, just like dad, you know,

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Speaker 1: zero right, nine or something like that. That's fine, But wow,

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Speaker 1: having you know there's eight and ninety nine that you know,

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Speaker 1: there's there's gonna be like some swaggy punter to come

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Speaker 1: out for sure, and who's gonna wear like number ninety

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Speaker 1: nine And it's gonna be awesome though that that guy

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Speaker 1: would have been Pat McAfee here if this was the

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Speaker 1: new without a doubt at McAfee would have totally went

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Speaker 1: with I mean, he wore number one and there was

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Speaker 1: a reason, you know, so I could see Pat McAfee

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Speaker 1: wearing zero nine just to be Pat McAfee. But but

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Speaker 1: it would be interesting for him to have that. But

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Speaker 1: you know, of all these rules, that's the rule I

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Speaker 1: thought would would be last. Me too, completely agree. I

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Speaker 1: don't think I thought the rule that that would change

504
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Speaker 1: would be the third quarterback rule. I really thought that

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Speaker 1: one would be the one that changed. So that one

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Speaker 1: got that one got I'm seeing some reporting that one

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Speaker 1: got tabled. Bill it didn't get voted on this year. Um.

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Speaker 1: The other the other one that I believe got tabled

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Speaker 1: was adding tens of a second to the game clock

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Speaker 1: within thirty seconds. I think the Eagles proposed that, and

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Speaker 1: I think I saw that that one got tabled, which

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Speaker 1: means it could still get voted on in the future.

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Speaker 1: But um, so, here's here are the positions that could

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Speaker 1: wear zero. Quarterbacks, punters, kickers, defensive backs, running backs, tight ends,

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Speaker 1: wide receivers, and linebackers. So if you're an offensive lineman

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Speaker 1: or a defensive lineman, you can't wear number zeroum, which,

517
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Speaker 1: like I wish they did that for d lineman though agreed,

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Speaker 1: give me I want me a menacing defensive end wearing

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Speaker 1: number zero coming off the edge. That would be so cool.

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Speaker 1: It's like the guy from Baylor a handful of years ago.

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Speaker 1: Sean Oakman. Sean Oakman, you know he had that didn't

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Speaker 1: he wear zero? Am? I he did? He did? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that I mean that he was. He was terrifying to

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Speaker 1: look at. So, oh my goodness, that's unbelievable. Unbelievable. Like

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Speaker 1: I said, I thought that quarterback rule would pass. And

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Speaker 1: the reason I say that because if you go back

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Speaker 1: to the NFC Championship game with Philadelphia and San Francisco,

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Speaker 1: after Purdy got hurt and then I think Johnson came in,

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Speaker 1: Johnson got like I think it was concussed yea, and

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Speaker 1: they had to bring Purty back, bring Purdy back, and

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Speaker 1: Purdy could not throw the ball. I mean he threw

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Speaker 1: one path I think after that to McCaffrey and think

533
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Speaker 1: it was a screen, and but from the rest of

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Speaker 1: the game he had to hand the ball off. They

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Speaker 1: did a lot of jet sweep so uh deebo Samuel

536
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Speaker 1: and stuff like that, but he could not throw the ball.

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Speaker 1: So I thought maybe not having a third quarterback ready

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Speaker 1: to go. I'm sure Kyle Shanahan would love to have

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Speaker 1: a third quarterback back then to be able to at

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Speaker 1: least throw the ball. Do something more than on the ball.

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Speaker 1: I honestly thought the roughing the passer might might get

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Speaker 1: get in there too, because that has been a pretty

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Speaker 1: hot topic. Yes, especially that that that, but it's it's

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Speaker 1: such a it's such a gray area. You know, that's

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Speaker 1: a tough one because you know, they're protecting the quarterbacks

546
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Speaker 1: so much, so it's it's hard to make that a

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Speaker 1: challengeable play, I think. And I also heard that for

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Speaker 1: the quarterbacks that the rules, I mean, the penalties that

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Speaker 1: they call last that were questionable. I think it was

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Speaker 1: only like two or three that were questionable that they

551
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Speaker 1: could say. Uh. I wasn't sure that it was you know,

552
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Speaker 1: I need to be challenge or whatever. It could have

553
00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:11,239
Speaker 1: been challenge and change. But for the most part they

554
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Speaker 1: said that the referees could have called those plays. So

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Speaker 1: that's why I think I read and heard of saw somewhere.

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Speaker 1: All Right. Well, before we finish up talking about the

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Speaker 1: owners meetings, we're gonna go play the interview I did

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Speaker 1: with Shane Steke and it's about five and a half minutes,

559
00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:27,760
Speaker 1: real quick conversation I had with him, but some really

560
00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:30,520
Speaker 1: interesting stuff that we talked about over the course of

561
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Speaker 1: that conversation So here's my sitdown interview with Shane Steken. Everyone,

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Speaker 1: I'm JJ Stankovitz here at the NFL Annual meeting in

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Speaker 1: Phoenix with Colts head coach Shane Steke and Shane, you

564
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Speaker 1: just took your first full NFL coaching photo. How that

565
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Speaker 1: feel to be part of that group? That was good

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Speaker 1: just to see the faces and the tradition. You know,

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00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:49,200
Speaker 1: these league meetings would be a part of his special

568
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Speaker 1: for you coming here and being the Colts head coach.

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Speaker 1: Something I wanted to ask you about is in the

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Speaker 1: building on fifty six Street, every interaction you have, that's

571
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Speaker 1: the biggest part of that person day you're having an

572
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Speaker 1: interaction with How have you handled the emotional load of

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Speaker 1: being the head coach and being that guy in the building. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know, it's been really exciting just to meet the

575
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Speaker 1: people that are in that building. Just a tremendous organization

576
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Speaker 1: to be a part of it, all the people that

577
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Speaker 1: have worked in there, that have been there, just tremendous

578
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Speaker 1: people for you knowing that you know, hey, if I

579
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Speaker 1: have a conversation with the staffer or you know, me

580
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Speaker 1: in the hallway is saying how do you know? That's

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Speaker 1: the biggest part of my day. It's the biggest part

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Speaker 1: of you know, their day, just handling that that load,

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Speaker 1: because that is a lot to handle, right, Yeah. I think,

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Speaker 1: you know, just creating those relationships and creating those connections

585
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Speaker 1: with everyone in that building is big because I think

586
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Speaker 1: when you're connected, you're committed, and you got to do

587
00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:40,040
Speaker 1: a good job of being intentional about your connections with

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Speaker 1: the people in the building. And so far, it's been

589
00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:45,240
Speaker 1: great keeping Gus Bradley on staff. I know you had

590
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Speaker 1: history with him in with the Chargers. What about the

591
00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:50,720
Speaker 1: way that he plays defense, in the way that he

592
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Speaker 1: schemes defense led you to want to keep him on staff. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: The four years I spent with Gus in LA, just

594
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Speaker 1: tremendous respect for him as a person, as a leader,

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Speaker 1: as a teacher, just seeing it, you know, those four years,

596
00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:05,560
Speaker 1: just the way he coaches his guys and how hard

597
00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:09,000
Speaker 1: they play for him. Again, just a ton of respect

598
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:11,920
Speaker 1: for him as a person and really gets those guys

599
00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:13,800
Speaker 1: to believe in and play hard for him. I know,

600
00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:16,400
Speaker 1: sometimes offensive coaches will come in and they'll hire the

601
00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:20,080
Speaker 1: defensive coach who gave them the most problems the year prior.

602
00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:23,320
Speaker 1: Gus held you guys with the Eagles to seventeen points,

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00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:25,440
Speaker 1: the lowest output of the season. What about that game

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Speaker 1: and the way that Gus called that game kind of

605
00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:31,040
Speaker 1: gave you as then the Eagles offensive coordinators and issues. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know what, he did a great job, you know,

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Speaker 1: just the way he played the front, what he did

608
00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:38,160
Speaker 1: on the back end, from the secondary in the linebacker standpoint.

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00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:41,240
Speaker 1: They play hard, they play physical, they are fast, and

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Speaker 1: just very fortunate to keep him on staff. What about

611
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Speaker 1: having him as a former head coach on staff. Absolutely, Yeah,

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00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:49,160
Speaker 1: there's no question when you got a former head coach

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Speaker 1: on your staff for a sounding board, you know, bounce

614
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Speaker 1: ideas off him, you know, when things come up. He's

615
00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:57,200
Speaker 1: been there, done that, So it's awesome to have him

616
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Speaker 1: for that. The process of putting the coaching staff together,

617
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:03,120
Speaker 1: getting that settled, now going through the install process. What

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Speaker 1: excites you about this group now that you've really started

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Speaker 1: to started to talk ball with them and talk specific Yeah,

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00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:09,720
Speaker 1: it's been great. You know a lot of the defensive

621
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Speaker 1: staff is intact, but a lot of the offensive staff

622
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Speaker 1: is new. But just going through the installs with them

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Speaker 1: on a weekly basis and the mornings going through the

624
00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:19,440
Speaker 1: football part of it just seeing the new you know,

625
00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:22,479
Speaker 1: minds that we got on offense, very excited about what

626
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Speaker 1: we got going there, and really looking forward to getting

627
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Speaker 1: the players in and work one of them. How intentional

628
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Speaker 1: were you about not just only hiring people you had

629
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Speaker 1: worked with previously, you know, you didn't work with Tony

630
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Speaker 1: Sprouno junior, you know, for example, just to bringing in

631
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Speaker 1: some of those different voices and perspectives. Yeah, My deal

632
00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:38,680
Speaker 1: there when hiring a staff is I want to hire

633
00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:41,560
Speaker 1: the best coaches and the best fit and not necessarily

634
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Speaker 1: do I need to, you know, have a great relationship

635
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Speaker 1: with them, but guys that I feel that are going

636
00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:47,840
Speaker 1: to fit the staff and bring to the table what

637
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Speaker 1: we need at the specific positions, you know, from offensive line,

638
00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:55,760
Speaker 1: tight ends, running backs, receivers, quarterbacks that are going to

639
00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:58,880
Speaker 1: bring you know, good ideas and really coach their guys

640
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Speaker 1: and hold them accountable. Thing you talked about earlier this

641
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Speaker 1: morning was just the the energy that this coaching staff

642
00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:05,640
Speaker 1: brings of, you know, intentionally trying to hire some younger

643
00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:08,720
Speaker 1: coaches given their shot. What about the energy in the

644
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Speaker 1: building will benefit the players when they get in. Yeah,

645
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Speaker 1: I think you got to bring great energy into that building.

646
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Speaker 1: You know, the players will feed off the coaches energy.

647
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Speaker 1: That's where it starts. And we got to bring that

648
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Speaker 1: energy into the meeting rooms, you know, on the practice

649
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Speaker 1: field and the weight room, training room, all throughout that building.

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Speaker 1: Just having great energy and just feeding the positive energy

651
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Speaker 1: and we not all the negative stuff. What have you

652
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Speaker 1: learned about Reggie Wayne in this process? You know, Reggie's

653
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Speaker 1: been great. You know, a former Cult you know, played

654
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Speaker 1: for fourteen years um started coaching last year, but really

655
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Speaker 1: loves the part of coaching the development of players. I

656
00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:41,760
Speaker 1: know he's got insurance, you know, respect from those guys

657
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Speaker 1: doing what he did at a high level. So really

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Speaker 1: fortunate to keep Reggie on staff. As you've kind of

659
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Speaker 1: gone through this process of you know, getting the installed,

660
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Speaker 1: in getting the language installed, have you learned anything just

661
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:56,800
Speaker 1: about yourself in this process, about your your leadership style,

662
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Speaker 1: your coaching style, now that you're you're in that chair. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think the biggest thing for me is just be

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Speaker 1: who I am, you know, don't try to change who

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Speaker 1: I am. Be who I am, Be true to myself

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Speaker 1: and go from there. What did you learn too about

667
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Speaker 1: in twenty twenty one last time you went through this

668
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Speaker 1: with a new team as the Eagles offensive coordinator of

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Speaker 1: going through the process of installing an offense, get to

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Speaker 1: know your players, but then in the season kind of

671
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Speaker 1: having to pivot a little bit and just being flexible. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think, you know, it doesn't happen overnight. You know,

673
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Speaker 1: you got to develop. You know your players and you

674
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Speaker 1: really get to know them and go through that process,

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Speaker 1: you know, in the OTAs and into training camp, and

676
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Speaker 1: then you know, you get into the season and you

677
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Speaker 1: really find out who you are through that process and

678
00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:36,560
Speaker 1: really putting your guys in position and make plays as

679
00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:39,360
Speaker 1: the biggest things we gotta do as coaches. April tenth one,

680
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Speaker 1: players do get in the building, you get a smile

681
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Speaker 1: on your face. What are you looking forward to by

682
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Speaker 1: getting to know the guys on this team? That's the

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Speaker 1: biggest thing. Just getting to know the guys. Creating those

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Speaker 1: relationship with those guys. I think that's the biggest thing

685
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Speaker 1: is really when you know, like I said earlier, when

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Speaker 1: you're connected, you're committed, but really being intentional about the

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Speaker 1: you know, relationship part. You know, getting to know these guys,

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Speaker 1: being intentional about it, and then you know, I think

689
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Speaker 1: when you know they get to know you, you get

690
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Speaker 1: to know them. I think it's human nature that you're

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Speaker 1: going to go just a little bit more for someone

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Speaker 1: that you really trust and believe in. All Right, Shane

693
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Speaker 1: Stike and Colts head coach here at the Biltmore in Phoenix, Arizona. Awesome,

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Speaker 1: Thanks guys, all right, thanks again for Shane Stike and

695
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:16,040
Speaker 1: for sitting down with me down here in Arizona. So

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Speaker 1: we're still in the roster building portion of the off season.

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Speaker 1: The focus is on the draft right now. But the

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Speaker 1: Colts last year around this time, you know, I think

699
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Speaker 1: first second week of April added Rodney McCloud junior, ends

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Speaker 1: to find Gilmour in free agency. So Chris Pollard has

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Speaker 1: always had the philosophy that you can build your roster

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Speaker 1: really through. It's about like October when you can you

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Speaker 1: really start, you know, get your roster together. There's always

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Speaker 1: going to be opportunities to make it better. The Colts,

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Speaker 1: you know, they made a minor move this week. That

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Speaker 1: week they resigned Khalid Kareem defensive end. They picked up

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Speaker 1: off the Bengals practice squad. Last year, Matt Pryor signed

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Speaker 1: with the San Francisco forty nine ers. So there's an

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Speaker 1: internal free agent leaving. What holes do you think the

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Speaker 1: Colts still need to fill on this roster over the

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Speaker 1: next we'll call it the next month, between now and

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Speaker 1: then the end of the NFL Draft, and where else

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Speaker 1: could this roster be built up even after the NFL Draft. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's a good question because I don't know necessarily if

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Speaker 1: you're going to see a lot of activity from now

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Speaker 1: until the draft, because I think kind of where you

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Speaker 1: are is you're just kind of positioning yourself to see

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Speaker 1: what you're going to do in the draft, and then

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Speaker 1: you kind of address those other holes that you might need.

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Speaker 1: I mean, clearly, there is a hole at corner. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you think about the guys that you've lost, you need

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Speaker 1: to add some depth there at corner. That's definitely a

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Speaker 1: spot that I'm envisioning some depth being added. You're probably

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Speaker 1: going to add some depth at linebacker, but that is

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Speaker 1: probably an area in the draft that you're going to address.

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Speaker 1: So ultimately, I am seeing maybe until the draft, you

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Speaker 1: might see a couple editions offensive line, also wide receiver,

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Speaker 1: but I think really it's you might not see anything

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Speaker 1: big just because you want to see where you are

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Speaker 1: when the draft rolls around who those guys you kind

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Speaker 1: of get as your top priority undrafted free agents, and

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Speaker 1: then you go and look at the rest of it

733
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Speaker 1: because you know, realistically there's a lot of guys that

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Speaker 1: they're kind of waiting to see where they want to

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Speaker 1: go to after the draft. For certain teams, you know,

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Speaker 1: some guys might say, Hey, I want to see where

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Speaker 1: that position looks like for you following the draft, to

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Speaker 1: see whether or not I feel like that's a good

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Speaker 1: spot for me. So I think it's kind of that

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Speaker 1: that back and forth game that you're having. You probably

741
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Speaker 1: have very open dialogue with a handful of these free agents,

742
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Speaker 1: but it is one of those things where it's, hey,

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Speaker 1: we'll give you a call, you know, in May, just

744
00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:43,960
Speaker 1: to kind of see where we end up with the

745
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Speaker 1: draft rolls around. Yeah, just kind of pick it back

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Speaker 1: off of what Casey is saying, I think one of

747
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Speaker 1: the areas that the Colts will look and I agree

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Speaker 1: with Casey. I don't think there'll be a lot of

749
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Speaker 1: movement between now and the draft. There'll be some, but

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Speaker 1: I think one of the areas where they might look

751
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Speaker 1: at it, I think is maybe the pitsive line. Definitely

752
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Speaker 1: to ask some depth there because you know you talk here,

753
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Speaker 1: Chris Bell, I always talk about I'd love to have depth,

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Speaker 1: have just a case something happens to one of those

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00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:10,960
Speaker 1: guys out there off the line, you have someone the

756
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Speaker 1: plug in there, and especially you want someone that you

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Speaker 1: have confidence in with a young quarterback back that if

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Speaker 1: you have a young quarterback back there calling plays, but

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Speaker 1: off the lines. One we talked about cornerback. You know

760
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:25,480
Speaker 1: have Stefan Gilmore gone, we do like Isaiah Rodgers and

761
00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:27,960
Speaker 1: Dallas Flowers and Kenny Moore and all the guys. But

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00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:30,920
Speaker 1: to ask some depth back there, you need some cornerbacks

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00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:33,359
Speaker 1: can play. Because this is a throng league right now.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna have from four and five and four maybe

765
00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:38,400
Speaker 1: five wide receivers out in a route or in the

766
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:41,279
Speaker 1: past play. So you want some corners that can be

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Speaker 1: able to cover. And as you said wide receiver, I

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Speaker 1: think get some depth at wide receiver as well. You

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Speaker 1: know we have Pittman and and Piers and then you

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Speaker 1: have dueling there. So I think, you know, I have

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Speaker 1: some depth at wide receiver. It's another position I think

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Speaker 1: that the Coats can look at. And as Casey said,

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Speaker 1: as someone that's been through free agen see a little

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Speaker 1: bit way way way, way, way way back. Come on,

775
00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:06,160
Speaker 1: when you look at I've talked to a lot of

776
00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:08,319
Speaker 1: the players, they said a lot of times they wanted

777
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:10,520
Speaker 1: to wait so after the draft and see what teams

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00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:13,719
Speaker 1: still might have some whole someplace that they will be

779
00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:16,680
Speaker 1: able to sign and probably possibly make it on that team.

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Speaker 1: So it's something that I'm gonna sure have some veteran

781
00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:22,040
Speaker 1: free agent players are looking at say, hey, we'll see

782
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:24,680
Speaker 1: what they do in the draft, and then we'll attack

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00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:27,200
Speaker 1: the teams that might need some help at whatever position

784
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Speaker 1: that they play. So I think you'll see a lot

785
00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:33,479
Speaker 1: more movement from a free agency standpoint, probably after the draft. Yeah.

786
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Speaker 1: And there's something worth noting here too from a team

787
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:38,920
Speaker 1: building standpoint is that free agents who signed after the

788
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Speaker 1: draft do not count toward the comp pic formula. So

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Speaker 1: if you know when when the Colts signed Eric Fisher

790
00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:51,040
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty one, he didn't cancel out anyone else's contract,

791
00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:54,400
Speaker 1: it the compic formula is is so arcane and difficult

792
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:57,640
Speaker 1: to explain. I don't even know why. I just know

793
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Speaker 1: that if if you sign a free agent after the

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Speaker 1: the NFL Draft, you still could get draft this is stu.

795
00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:09,920
Speaker 1: This is silly. I'm not even gonna bother explaining it

796
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:11,799
Speaker 1: to people. If you want to know more about it,

797
00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:15,160
Speaker 1: google it. It's it's a it's a terrible thing to

798
00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:17,440
Speaker 1: try to explain in podcast form. I run into this

799
00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:20,680
Speaker 1: problem every single freaking year because I'm like, oh, you

800
00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:23,080
Speaker 1: gotta remember the compic thing, and everyone's like, who cares?

801
00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:26,239
Speaker 1: So never mind, you just walk to the NFL just

802
00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:28,680
Speaker 1: hands them down. That's all you do. You just went, hey,

803
00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:33,279
Speaker 1: we got six competitory bigs. Right, let's move on to

804
00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:36,280
Speaker 1: play a little game of big deal or big whoop

805
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Speaker 1: with free agency? All right, guys, here's the first one.

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Speaker 1: Samson Ebucom had a career best five sacks with the

807
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Speaker 1: forty nine ers last year. He also had forty seven

808
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Speaker 1: quarterback pressures, which was six more than the Colt Scott

809
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Speaker 1: from Unike and Gokway, who has given sixty six more

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Speaker 1: pass rushing snaps than Samson Ebcom last season. Shout out

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Speaker 1: to Matt Taylor for that research. By the way, that

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Speaker 1: read was very smooth for from may take for putting

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Speaker 1: that together. All right, is it a big deal or

814
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Speaker 1: a big whoop that Samson had become affected the quarterback

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Speaker 1: more even though he didn't have as many sacks as

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Speaker 1: Unique and Goquay. I think it's a big deal. I

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Speaker 1: think that's part of what you're looking for. You're one

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Speaker 1: of the one of the things we've talked about. I

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Speaker 1: think you know, when you looked at Yanique's season last year,

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Speaker 1: you looked at the sacks and he said, Okay, yeah

821
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Speaker 1: he had you know, nine and a half sacks, but

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Speaker 1: how much did he really affect make an impact on

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Speaker 1: every single game? So it's a it's always one of

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Speaker 1: those It's one of those things that I know where

825
00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:35,719
Speaker 1: we live in a stat type of world now with

826
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Speaker 1: fantasy football and all of that, so you look at

827
00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:39,719
Speaker 1: how many sacks a player has, and that's how you

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Speaker 1: judge whether or not they had a good or a

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Speaker 1: bad season. But I think that is so key when

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Speaker 1: you're looking at quarterback hits, pressures, all of that, because

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Speaker 1: it's what happens on those plays that really determine whether

832
00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:55,200
Speaker 1: or not it was it was impactful. And those are

833
00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:57,480
Speaker 1: what I always love. Like, you know, we're going through

834
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Speaker 1: all this draft stuff right now, and I'm seeing a

835
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Speaker 1: bunch of high of these guys where it's like they

836
00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:04,040
Speaker 1: had a pressure that led to an interception. You may

837
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Speaker 1: look at the stat sheet and it may not look

838
00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:08,239
Speaker 1: like anything from that defensive end because it was just

839
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Speaker 1: a pressure. It wasn't a sack, but there was an

840
00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:13,839
Speaker 1: interception that happened. Coaches know that stuff. So I think

841
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:16,959
Speaker 1: that is so important with how impactful you are, whether

842
00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:20,120
Speaker 1: or not you're you're locking a sack in your total,

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00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:22,839
Speaker 1: it's it's how impactful you can be at getting after

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Speaker 1: the quarterback. So I think that is a big deal.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonnagree. I'm gonna say a big deal and I'm

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00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:29,360
Speaker 1: gonna say a big deal in because and this is

847
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Speaker 1: nothing against you, Nick or anything like that, but Samson

848
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Speaker 1: was more efficient with his snaps on the field and

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Speaker 1: creating pressure on the quarterback and making sure that he

850
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Speaker 1: gets some pressure on the quarterback and do the things

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00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:42,360
Speaker 1: so hopefully make the quarterback photo ball away or maybe

852
00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:45,479
Speaker 1: incomplete pass and things like that. And if things hold

853
00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:47,560
Speaker 1: true as to last year and he can do that,

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00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:49,879
Speaker 1: and if he gets more snaps this year, you would

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Speaker 1: hope that he gets more pressure on them. You hope

856
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Speaker 1: it's that he gets some more sacks. You hope that

857
00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:56,880
Speaker 1: there's some more incomplete passes that the opponent's throwing. So

858
00:40:57,320 --> 00:40:59,960
Speaker 1: you take that and I think it's a big deal,

859
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:02,520
Speaker 1: and hopefully he will get more snaps and with those

860
00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:05,799
Speaker 1: more snaps, be more efficient out there and put more

861
00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:08,040
Speaker 1: pressure on the quarterback. So I'm looking as a big

862
00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:11,759
Speaker 1: deal for the Colts. All right, the next one here

863
00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:15,680
Speaker 1: and Bill, this one is right up your alley. Colts

864
00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:18,640
Speaker 1: free agent wide receiver Isaiah McKenzie has it combined twelve

865
00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:21,799
Speaker 1: drops over the last two seasons. His drop percentage of

866
00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:24,799
Speaker 1: nine point two last season was the ninth highest among

867
00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:27,440
Speaker 1: NFL wideouts in that number was eleven point two percent

868
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:30,759
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty one. Is it a big deal or

869
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:34,360
Speaker 1: a big whoop? That isamh. McKenzie has had some issues

870
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:37,040
Speaker 1: with drops over the last two seasons. Now, just hear

871
00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:38,960
Speaker 1: me out. I'm going to say it's a big deal. Now,

872
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:41,680
Speaker 1: if this was a running back and he fumbled that

873
00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:43,919
Speaker 1: high whatever, I think people would say it's a big deal.

874
00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:46,279
Speaker 1: But if you look at it as far as what

875
00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:49,320
Speaker 1: he's doing out there in the football field and dropping balls,

876
00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:50,880
Speaker 1: it could be it could be a big deal. But

877
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:53,960
Speaker 1: it's something that you can change because I think if

878
00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:56,040
Speaker 1: you go out there, and you keep on practicing catching

879
00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:59,680
Speaker 1: the football, catching the football, you can change that skill

880
00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:02,200
Speaker 1: set as far as improving your catching skills and proving

881
00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:04,640
Speaker 1: you catching and dropping. The numbers down there as far

882
00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:06,879
Speaker 1: as you drop, So I want to say anytime you're

883
00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:08,400
Speaker 1: dropping the ball, because that's what you do as a

884
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:10,520
Speaker 1: wide receiver. You're supposed to catch the ball, run routes

885
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:13,120
Speaker 1: along with other things as far as blocking things like that.

886
00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:16,520
Speaker 1: So if that number is gone, still continue to be high.

887
00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:18,799
Speaker 1: I think it's a big deal. But I'm saying that

888
00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:21,840
Speaker 1: only because I think he will get better as he

889
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:24,080
Speaker 1: comes here, and maybe in the situation he's going to

890
00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:28,000
Speaker 1: be put in under Shane Stikeen's scheme, I think he

891
00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:30,160
Speaker 1: will do a good job of catching a ball. Plus,

892
00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:32,759
Speaker 1: you also want a guy that's going to be the

893
00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:35,120
Speaker 1: quarterback can have confidence in catching the ball, especially if

894
00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:37,160
Speaker 1: you're if you have a young quarterback. So I think

895
00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:39,680
Speaker 1: it's a big deal, but I don't think it's something

896
00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:43,040
Speaker 1: that we should be overly concerned about with Isaiah McKenzie

897
00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:45,480
Speaker 1: because I think he's a veteran receiver that can go

898
00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:47,960
Speaker 1: out there and do his job and catch the balls

899
00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:49,560
Speaker 1: and make some big plays. Because He's shown that he

900
00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:53,400
Speaker 1: could do that last year, where he had over forty

901
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:55,279
Speaker 1: catchers last year, So I think he will go out

902
00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:57,600
Speaker 1: there and do a good job. So I'm confident that

903
00:42:57,640 --> 00:42:59,520
Speaker 1: he will have he will do a good job, and

904
00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:02,520
Speaker 1: I'm called but that he will hopefully fill that void

905
00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:05,279
Speaker 1: as a slot receiver. I'd say I'd add anything to

906
00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:10,000
Speaker 1: that JJ, but I mean Bill is our wide receiver position,

907
00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:12,160
Speaker 1: so I'm gonna let him. I'm gonna go with what

908
00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:15,080
Speaker 1: Bill said. That's where I'm gonna go. Ditto. I'm not

909
00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:19,720
Speaker 1: a guru an expert at that position. All right. Last

910
00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:22,960
Speaker 1: one here, guys, big deal or big whoop? As of

911
00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:25,080
Speaker 1: right now, the Colts don't have a clear backup for

912
00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:29,439
Speaker 1: Bernard Ryman at left tackle along the offensive line. Big

913
00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:31,160
Speaker 1: deal or big whoop? And I want to take this

914
00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:33,960
Speaker 1: one head on first. Um, this is a big whoop

915
00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:36,600
Speaker 1: to me because, like we were just talking about, you

916
00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:39,400
Speaker 1: can still add those guys over the course of the

917
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:44,879
Speaker 1: next couple of months. The Colts last year, I think

918
00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:47,960
Speaker 1: Dennis Kelly was signed after the draft. Eric Fisher year

919
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:51,719
Speaker 1: before that was signed after the draft. Um, you know

920
00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:54,719
Speaker 1: Matt Pryor the Colts acquired him on cutdown day in

921
00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:57,799
Speaker 1: twenty twenty one, you can find you can find a

922
00:43:57,840 --> 00:44:01,279
Speaker 1: backup left tackle after the draft. Um, to me, it's

923
00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:02,960
Speaker 1: a it's a big old big whoop on this one.

924
00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:05,480
Speaker 1: I agree with you, and I also think that that

925
00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:09,080
Speaker 1: is one of the spots that the backup left tackle

926
00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:13,879
Speaker 1: kind of that swing tackle. It's a really good thing

927
00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:16,319
Speaker 1: to look for in the draft. I mean, we have

928
00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:19,719
Speaker 1: talked about how you know, they haven't addressed that need

929
00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:21,800
Speaker 1: at left tackle in the first couple rounds. Over the

930
00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:24,759
Speaker 1: last handful of years, I've heard a lot of the

931
00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:28,080
Speaker 1: outside noise talking about not being one hundred percent certain

932
00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:30,920
Speaker 1: of Bernard Ryman is the guy. I can't with you know,

933
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:32,920
Speaker 1: I can't say that sitting right here, that one hundred

934
00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:35,000
Speaker 1: percent this is the guy. But he showed a lot

935
00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:38,200
Speaker 1: of really good progression as the season went on last year.

936
00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:42,040
Speaker 1: I feel pretty comfortable about him continuing to grow. So

937
00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:44,640
Speaker 1: I almost look for you're finding a guy in the

938
00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:47,520
Speaker 1: draft that you can learn from, you know, what you

939
00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:50,160
Speaker 1: saw at a Bernard, but also take what Braden can do.

940
00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:53,200
Speaker 1: And that's kind of what I like, honestly as the backup. Yeah,

941
00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:55,160
Speaker 1: you want to have experience at left tackle. I'm not

942
00:44:55,239 --> 00:44:58,000
Speaker 1: all down in downplaying that at all, but I think

943
00:44:58,040 --> 00:44:59,839
Speaker 1: that finding a guy in the draft, a young guy

944
00:44:59,840 --> 00:45:02,479
Speaker 1: the you can groom and learn from some of these guys,

945
00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:04,560
Speaker 1: I think that is the way that I would address this.

946
00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:06,399
Speaker 1: So I'm going with you JJ, and I'm saying big

947
00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:08,759
Speaker 1: whoop as well. Yeah, I agree all three of us

948
00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:10,919
Speaker 1: in agreement with this as far as big whoop, because

949
00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:13,120
Speaker 1: I think you know, you can find someone Kay said

950
00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:15,759
Speaker 1: find someone in draft, but also it was possibly someone

951
00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:17,600
Speaker 1: out there in free so you can find and you

952
00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:19,759
Speaker 1: want to find that guy that can probably play both

953
00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:22,120
Speaker 1: left and right tackle, someone you can spring in there

954
00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:25,000
Speaker 1: that can play multiple positions and you kill, you know,

955
00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:27,600
Speaker 1: two birds with one stone. So I think they can

956
00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:30,160
Speaker 1: find someone and they will find someone. And then also,

957
00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:33,840
Speaker 1: you know what I think Bernard Ryman, he's growing, he's learning.

958
00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:36,120
Speaker 1: I think he will be fine out there, so hopefully

959
00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:38,600
Speaker 1: he can be healthy and play the whole season. But

960
00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:42,040
Speaker 1: I think you can find someone in a draft, foreign

961
00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:45,759
Speaker 1: free agency that you can plug in there if for

962
00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:48,920
Speaker 1: whatever reason, Bernard Ryman can't play in the game. But

963
00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:52,279
Speaker 1: for whatever reason, all right, well, that brings us to

964
00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:54,520
Speaker 1: the end of our football discussion. Now, for my favorite

965
00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:58,440
Speaker 1: part of the podcast. Every time Casey you are on

966
00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:01,160
Speaker 1: deck with your random thought of the week, What do

967
00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:04,080
Speaker 1: you got? All right? So, so I'm basing this all

968
00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:06,920
Speaker 1: off the NFL owners meetings. We know that JJ is

969
00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:09,840
Speaker 1: in beautiful sunny Phoenix right now, and I don't know.

970
00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:12,000
Speaker 1: I haven't been outside today, Bill, is it is it

971
00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:14,600
Speaker 1: raining like it has been kind of the last seven

972
00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:18,560
Speaker 1: days here in Indianapolis, just overcast and nah, it's not

973
00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:22,359
Speaker 1: quite Okay, it's funny out but yeah, but I am

974
00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:25,319
Speaker 1: wearing a heavy coat, right, I gotta jacket on and

975
00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:28,520
Speaker 1: all that. So essentially, what my question is, it's for

976
00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:30,799
Speaker 1: both of you, but definitely for you because it's so

977
00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:33,400
Speaker 1: fresh for you right now. JJ, if you had to

978
00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:35,600
Speaker 1: pick anywhere in the in the unit, in the United

979
00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:40,120
Speaker 1: States territories or inside the States for the next owners meeting,

980
00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:42,399
Speaker 1: they came to you and you said, this is where

981
00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:47,040
Speaker 1: we're going. Where are you picking? San Diego, California? Okay,

982
00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:49,480
Speaker 1: because you know what you're gonna get every single day. Yea,

983
00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:55,160
Speaker 1: it is gorgeous. It is perfect weather like literally all year.

984
00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:58,719
Speaker 1: Maybe they have rained a couple of times, I don't know. Um, yes,

985
00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:03,719
Speaker 1: but look you look you can't beat you cannot beat Phoenix.

986
00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:08,520
Speaker 1: So yesterday we had a chance to when when we

987
00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:12,920
Speaker 1: talked to mister Ersey. We did it at at the

988
00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:18,080
Speaker 1: Phoenician the Resort hotel out here, and oh, my goodness,

989
00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:21,120
Speaker 1: is that gorgeous there. Yeah, you have this beautiful view

990
00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:26,080
Speaker 1: overlooking Phoenix, overlooking the valley. You've got literally a mountain

991
00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:28,719
Speaker 1: right outside the hotel that you can go hike up

992
00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:34,880
Speaker 1: Campbellback Mountain, and it's just it's like you sit around

993
00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:37,880
Speaker 1: there and we were talking, you know, Kevin Connors, our

994
00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:40,920
Speaker 1: videographer down there, and Jeffrey Gorman, who you guys know.

995
00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:44,680
Speaker 1: We're just talking like wouldn't be nice to just live

996
00:47:44,680 --> 00:47:47,359
Speaker 1: out here? And then you remember, oh, you except it's

997
00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:49,319
Speaker 1: like one hundred and eighty degrees in the summer, so

998
00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:51,080
Speaker 1: it'd be nice to it's nice to go out here

999
00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:54,120
Speaker 1: in the spring. That's That's what I'll say. My brother,

1000
00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:57,600
Speaker 1: who's from here, he moved out there a year ago November,

1001
00:47:57,640 --> 00:47:59,520
Speaker 1: so he's been out a little over a year, and

1002
00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:02,320
Speaker 1: he is told us numerous times that it'll be really

1003
00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:04,440
Speaker 1: hard for him to move back. He's right outside of

1004
00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:08,120
Speaker 1: Phoenix season Chandler, and he absolutely loves it out there,

1005
00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:11,239
Speaker 1: so I could understand that for sure. Bill Well, let

1006
00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:14,840
Speaker 1: me see, since since JJ picked the place that I

1007
00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:19,879
Speaker 1: would love to live San Diego, let me go somewhere else.

1008
00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:21,640
Speaker 1: I'm gonna stay out in California. I'm gonna go a

1009
00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:25,320
Speaker 1: Palm Springs. I'm Springs. I'm going to Palm Springs next week,

1010
00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:29,120
Speaker 1: bill Well, and hopefully you enjoy yourself. It is beautiful

1011
00:48:29,160 --> 00:48:32,239
Speaker 1: out there. It's the weather is great. You can this

1012
00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:33,799
Speaker 1: time of year. I think you can go up into

1013
00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:35,640
Speaker 1: the mountains. You can see snow at this time of year,

1014
00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:38,759
Speaker 1: but come back down it's roughly about seventy five eighty

1015
00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:41,920
Speaker 1: degree So it's beautiful there. If people like to play golf,

1016
00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:44,759
Speaker 1: great golf courses, and I'm in yeah, I mean it's

1017
00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:47,920
Speaker 1: beautiful this time here and the skies are clear, so

1018
00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:50,120
Speaker 1: it's uh, it's nice. But Palm Springs will be the

1019
00:48:50,120 --> 00:48:52,440
Speaker 1: place I would pick. So clearly we have something with

1020
00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:55,200
Speaker 1: the West because mine is actually you would fly into

1021
00:48:55,239 --> 00:48:57,800
Speaker 1: California and then one more flight would be to Hawaii,

1022
00:48:57,880 --> 00:49:00,200
Speaker 1: just because I've never been to Hawaii, and and I

1023
00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:02,480
Speaker 1: mean I don't I never heard anybody say it was

1024
00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:05,280
Speaker 1: a bad day in Hawaii. So that's where I would

1025
00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:07,960
Speaker 1: go if if that was my choice. I don't. I mean, Bill,

1026
00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:10,040
Speaker 1: you said you've been there. I've been as beautiful and

1027
00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:13,879
Speaker 1: I mean it's beautiful. It's uh it's uh it's San

1028
00:49:13,880 --> 00:49:16,359
Speaker 1: Diego South so to speak. Okay, so you can look

1029
00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:19,280
Speaker 1: at it like that and uh beautiful weather a little

1030
00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:22,480
Speaker 1: warmer than San Diego, but it's it's beautiful than the

1031
00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:26,080
Speaker 1: water is great, it's clear, and uh, it's it's nice. Right.

1032
00:49:27,239 --> 00:49:29,000
Speaker 1: I think I think there's a there's a there's a

1033
00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:31,360
Speaker 1: trend here that we want to go somewhere. It was

1034
00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:34,440
Speaker 1: warming as water. We're just getting, we're just getting, but

1035
00:49:34,480 --> 00:49:36,960
Speaker 1: now we're getting further and further like west and south.

1036
00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:39,040
Speaker 1: So all right, let's do the owners meetings in Sydney,

1037
00:49:39,040 --> 00:49:44,239
Speaker 1: Australia next. Great, exactly, there you go, Exactly. You're a

1038
00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:48,840
Speaker 1: little down under that I would complain about that. Uh

1039
00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:50,600
Speaker 1: all right, well that is gonna do it for us.

1040
00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:53,600
Speaker 1: Here on this episode of the Official Colts Podcast, presented

1041
00:49:53,640 --> 00:49:56,200
Speaker 1: by wind Bat, we are gonna still be coming to

1042
00:49:56,320 --> 00:49:58,319
Speaker 1: you all this week on the Colts Audio Network. Our

1043
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Speaker 1: NFL Combine content continues with chats and interviews from NFL

1044
00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:04,759
Speaker 1: insiders across the country. Inside the Draft is back this

1045
00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:08,440
Speaker 1: week with NFL Draft insider Josh Edwards from CBS. The

1046
00:50:08,520 --> 00:50:11,000
Speaker 1: Last Word airs on Friday night at six pm on

1047
00:50:11,080 --> 00:50:12,680
Speaker 1: ninety three five and one oh seven five to the

1048
00:50:12,680 --> 00:50:15,360
Speaker 1: Fan with Casey Valier and Jeffrey Gorman giving you the

1049
00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:17,160
Speaker 1: latest on the Colts, and then be on the lookout

1050
00:50:17,239 --> 00:50:20,200
Speaker 1: on your feeds. I sat down with your Mersey down

1051
00:50:20,200 --> 00:50:22,560
Speaker 1: here at the owners meetings for about a twenty five

1052
00:50:22,600 --> 00:50:25,839
Speaker 1: minute chat. Really interesting stuff that we talked about with

1053
00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:30,120
Speaker 1: the draft with Shane Steike in. So take the listen

1054
00:50:30,120 --> 00:50:31,719
Speaker 1: to that, keep your eyes out for that on your

1055
00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:34,880
Speaker 1: podcast feeds, on your platform of choice, and then on

1056
00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:37,200
Speaker 1: Colts dot Com. Gonna have plenty still coming to you

1057
00:50:37,719 --> 00:50:40,960
Speaker 1: from Arizona before I take off tomorrow morning. I had

1058
00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:44,480
Speaker 1: a really interesting chat with Ron Rivera about something I'm

1059
00:50:44,480 --> 00:50:46,719
Speaker 1: going to write about with Shane steik and so keep

1060
00:50:46,719 --> 00:50:50,239
Speaker 1: an eye up for that on your podcast feeds, your

1061
00:50:50,520 --> 00:50:53,680
Speaker 1: podcast feeds, I should say on the website, I need

1062
00:50:53,719 --> 00:50:56,120
Speaker 1: some sleep, is what I really clearly. I know you've

1063
00:50:56,160 --> 00:50:58,960
Speaker 1: been busy man the owners meaning it sounds like fun,

1064
00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:01,320
Speaker 1: but it's a long I'm sure you're a little tired,

1065
00:51:01,800 --> 00:51:03,839
Speaker 1: those are Those are long days, but they are fun

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Speaker 1: long days, all right. Well, anyways, for Bill Brooks and

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Speaker 1: Casey Valier, I'm jj Stankevitz. Thank you so much for listening.

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Speaker 1: Mate and Laro will be back next week. I will

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Speaker 1: be in Palm Springs enjoying some nice weather there as well. Anyways,

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Speaker 1: we'll talk to you next week here on Nicolts Audio

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