1 00:00:04,400 --> 00:00:07,120 Speaker 1: Welcome into the lounge presented by DraftKings. I'm Raya Mink 2 00:00:07,120 --> 00:00:09,720 Speaker 1: here with Garrett Downing, and there's huge news today for 3 00:00:09,760 --> 00:00:13,680 Speaker 1: the Ravens organization. Owner Steve Bashadi announced that he and 4 00:00:13,720 --> 00:00:16,720 Speaker 1: the Ravens have parted ways with head coach John Harbaugh 5 00:00:17,079 --> 00:00:21,400 Speaker 1: after eighteen seasons leading this team. And we're going to 6 00:00:21,400 --> 00:00:23,759 Speaker 1: give you our reaction to that news and our perspective 7 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:26,000 Speaker 1: as well as look forward to what could be coming 8 00:00:26,040 --> 00:00:28,680 Speaker 1: down the road for this organization. But first we want 9 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:32,239 Speaker 1: to start by reading the statements from owner Sebashadi as 10 00:00:32,280 --> 00:00:36,000 Speaker 1: well as John Harbaugh. I'll read Steves first said, following 11 00:00:36,040 --> 00:00:39,440 Speaker 1: a comprehensive evaluation of the season and the overall direction 12 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:42,639 Speaker 1: of our organization, I decided to make a change at 13 00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:46,040 Speaker 1: head coach. Today I informed John that he has been 14 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:50,320 Speaker 1: relieved of his duties. This was an incredibly difficult decision, 15 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:53,640 Speaker 1: given the tremendous eighteen years we have spent together and 16 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:56,240 Speaker 1: the profound respect I have for John as a coach 17 00:00:56,640 --> 00:01:00,920 Speaker 1: and most importantly, as a great man of integrity. Throughout 18 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:03,600 Speaker 1: what I firmly believe is a Hall of fame coaching career, 19 00:01:03,720 --> 00:01:06,800 Speaker 1: John has delivered a Super Bowl championship to Baltimore and 20 00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 1: served as a steadfast pillar of humility and leadership. He 21 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 1: and his family have deeply embedded themselves in this community. 22 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:17,920 Speaker 1: For these profound contributions on and off the field, we 23 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:22,399 Speaker 1: should all be forever grateful. Our goal has always been, 24 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:26,600 Speaker 1: and always will be, to win championships. We strive to 25 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 1: consistently perform at the highest level on the field and 26 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:32,480 Speaker 1: be a team and organization our fans take pride in. 27 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:36,639 Speaker 1: I will always be grateful for the extraordinary hard work 28 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:40,640 Speaker 1: and dedication displayed by John and his staff throughout the 29 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 1: many successful years. I wish he, Ingrid and Allison all 30 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:48,280 Speaker 1: the best going forward. We now begin the challenging but 31 00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 1: exciting process of identifying the next leader of our football team. 32 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:56,320 Speaker 1: We fully understand the expectations of our fans and everyone 33 00:01:56,400 --> 00:02:00,720 Speaker 1: in the Ravens organization. Finding another strong leader and partner 34 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:05,640 Speaker 1: who will reflect these high standards is paramount. We deeply 35 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 1: appreciate our fans and will continue to work relentlessly to 36 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:12,120 Speaker 1: bring them, our city, and the extended community the success 37 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:12,799 Speaker 1: they deserve. 38 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:16,240 Speaker 2: And this is a statement from John Harbaugh Well. I 39 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:17,959 Speaker 2: was hoping for a different kind of message on my 40 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:21,680 Speaker 2: last day here someday, but that day has come today. 41 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:26,640 Speaker 2: It comes with disappointment, certainly, but more with gratitude and appreciation. 42 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 2: Gratitude to the owner and organization who is willing to 43 00:02:29,919 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 2: bring in a head coach who made his mark with 44 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 2: special team success, a difficult thing to do. And appreciation 45 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:38,919 Speaker 2: for all the moments all these years that are etched 46 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:43,120 Speaker 2: into eternity. I hope a legacy built on faith, always fighting, 47 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:46,920 Speaker 2: and always believing. Values built into an organization through a 48 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:50,639 Speaker 2: team that are worthwhile, good and lasting, and that are 49 00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:54,840 Speaker 2: admired by fans and foes alike. Meaningful and impactful relationships 50 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 2: with players through the years that I will cherish, always 51 00:02:57,919 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 2: grateful for their strength and courage, loyal partnerships in this 52 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:05,079 Speaker 2: wonderful building that grew into strong friendships through the toil 53 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:09,200 Speaker 2: and temptest on the job every day. Mostly to my 54 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:12,200 Speaker 2: treasured family, my Angrid and my Allison, who are beyond 55 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:15,000 Speaker 2: compare in every way, and the loves of my life 56 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 2: and my close knit family and good friends who stick 57 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:21,320 Speaker 2: with you no matter what. Finally, to the author and 58 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:25,280 Speaker 2: finisher of our faith. Gratitude for a journey beyond anything 59 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:27,679 Speaker 2: I could have dreamed of. On my own. All was 60 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:30,000 Speaker 2: well with my soul because of the good God who 61 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:31,640 Speaker 2: guides and sustains me. 62 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:35,400 Speaker 1: Yeah. First, I just want to start by saying John 63 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 1: Harball is a great coach, and nobody inside this building 64 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:46,000 Speaker 1: things otherwise. And as Steveushatti said, very difficult decision, you know, 65 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:48,880 Speaker 1: I mean, John Harball led the Ravens to a Super Bowl. 66 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 1: He won a Super Bowl here. Few teams, very few 67 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:54,600 Speaker 1: teams have had more success than the Ravens during his tenure. 68 00:03:55,080 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 1: He has a one hundred and eighty and one hundred 69 00:03:57,800 --> 00:04:02,840 Speaker 1: and thirteen record during his it's a regular season record 70 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:05,680 Speaker 1: during his tenure here. He ranks fourteenth all time of 71 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:09,960 Speaker 1: victories among NFL coaches, fourth most victories among active coaches, 72 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 1: and so prolonged success. Twelve playoff appearances during his tenure, 73 00:04:15,320 --> 00:04:18,039 Speaker 1: you know, went to the playoffs his first five seasons 74 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:22,080 Speaker 1: year in Baltimore, all running up to that Super Bowl 75 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:26,760 Speaker 1: championship obviously, So just a ton of long success for 76 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:29,679 Speaker 1: the Ravens, and in large part that's because of John Harball, 77 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:31,760 Speaker 1: because he is a great head coach. 78 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:33,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree with you. I think he's a great 79 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:35,839 Speaker 2: coach and that's been proven here for a long time. 80 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:38,280 Speaker 2: You don't last eighteen seasons in the NFL if you're 81 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:39,040 Speaker 2: not a really good coach. 82 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:41,960 Speaker 1: He's the second longest tenured head coach behind Mike Tomlin, 83 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:42,800 Speaker 1: one year behind him. 84 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's that kind of sustained success is almost impossible 85 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:50,800 Speaker 2: to find in the NFL, and to do it through 86 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:56,039 Speaker 2: multiple different player led you know, teams, you go from 87 00:04:56,040 --> 00:04:58,839 Speaker 2: different eras of the Ravens. You look through it, and 88 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:02,719 Speaker 2: his ability to be a consistent leader throughout all of 89 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:05,359 Speaker 2: that change. You go from ray Lewis, I mean he 90 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:07,560 Speaker 2: starts with Ray Lewis and Ed Reid and you end 91 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:10,240 Speaker 2: with Lamar Jackson in this era of the Ravens and 92 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 2: his ability to lead to bridge that gap, to bridge 93 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:18,880 Speaker 2: that gap, but also to elevate the team during his 94 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 2: tenure and obviously leading to a super Bowl in twenty twelve. 95 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:23,440 Speaker 2: But it's not just a super Bowl. I mean this 96 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 2: team is consistently in the hunt for division titles, for playoffs, 97 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:32,800 Speaker 2: competing for super Bowls, and so that's been the case 98 00:05:32,839 --> 00:05:36,640 Speaker 2: throughout his career here. And I think that there's so 99 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:39,279 Speaker 2: much respect for him in this building. I've got a 100 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:41,159 Speaker 2: ton of respect for him personally. I think that he's 101 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 2: somebody that he led the right way and treated people 102 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:49,240 Speaker 2: fairly and respectfully. And I think that there's just a 103 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:52,080 Speaker 2: lot of admiration for him in this building for all 104 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:54,240 Speaker 2: that he was able to do over the course of 105 00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 2: his time here. 106 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:58,360 Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely beyond just being a great coach. I mean, 107 00:05:58,360 --> 00:06:03,440 Speaker 1: he's a great man, a great man, very smart, agree 108 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:05,880 Speaker 1: very you know, was a good person to work with 109 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:09,240 Speaker 1: in this building. Of course, you know, there's always difficult moments, 110 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:11,840 Speaker 1: as he mentioned in his statement, and but like John 111 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:13,720 Speaker 1: always was a guy who came back and gave you 112 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:15,840 Speaker 1: a pat on the back and said, all right, we're good, 113 00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:18,080 Speaker 1: let's keep going, you know what I mean. And of 114 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:21,840 Speaker 1: course many hugs and embraces in great moments, way more 115 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 1: of those over his years. 116 00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:25,320 Speaker 2: Something that always stood out to me is like he 117 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:28,840 Speaker 2: certainly understood the magnitude of his voice as the head coach. 118 00:06:29,160 --> 00:06:32,359 Speaker 2: Like he whenever the head coach has a conversation with 119 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 2: anybody in the building, it's the most important conversation that 120 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:37,680 Speaker 2: that person has of the day, and for him it's 121 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:39,840 Speaker 2: just one of the hundreds of conversations that he has. 122 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:42,920 Speaker 2: But he understood the weight that his voice and his 123 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:46,680 Speaker 2: role carry and the impact that had on people, and 124 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:48,760 Speaker 2: so he was aware of that. I think that he 125 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:52,320 Speaker 2: took that seriously, took the job seriously, and certainly like 126 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:55,600 Speaker 2: nobody out works him. Like for a coach that's been 127 00:06:55,640 --> 00:06:58,280 Speaker 2: here as long as he has, he's still in here 128 00:06:58,320 --> 00:06:59,159 Speaker 2: before the sun comes up. 129 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:00,680 Speaker 1: You ever beat him in the building, including in the 130 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:01,080 Speaker 1: weight room. 131 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:03,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, in the in the weight room, he's here early, like, 132 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:06,800 Speaker 2: he's here late, put in the work, and so never 133 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:09,880 Speaker 2: was somebody that was outwork by any means. And I 134 00:07:09,880 --> 00:07:12,000 Speaker 2: think that's part of his ethos and what's made him 135 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:14,520 Speaker 2: such a successful coach of the course of his life. 136 00:07:14,640 --> 00:07:16,840 Speaker 1: And honestly, I think he's he's going to continue to 137 00:07:16,880 --> 00:07:19,200 Speaker 1: be a very successful head coach if that's what he 138 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 1: wants to continue to do. Right, well, we'll see what 139 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:24,680 Speaker 1: the next chapter is for John Harball. He could have 140 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:27,200 Speaker 1: a bunch of doors that open up for him very quickly. 141 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:29,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, he's This news has been out for 142 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 2: less than an hour and Adam Schefter already reported that 143 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:34,760 Speaker 2: he's expected to emerge as a favorite for the head 144 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:37,680 Speaker 2: coaching job of the New York Giants. So I mean 145 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 2: it's or an hour. 146 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:41,320 Speaker 1: He could the litter. 147 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:45,360 Speaker 2: He very well could. Yeah, and that's to be expected 148 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:48,120 Speaker 2: when you have the type of success that he's had 149 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:50,880 Speaker 2: over the course of his career. And again, the Ravens 150 00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:54,480 Speaker 2: have been in this We all expected today to be 151 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 2: talking about the Ravens praying for a playoff game. That 152 00:07:56,520 --> 00:07:59,160 Speaker 2: was what we thought going into that Sunday night football 153 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:02,120 Speaker 2: game in Steelers. Instead, it doesn't go that way. And 154 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:04,720 Speaker 2: now we're talking about a coaching change and a process 155 00:08:04,760 --> 00:08:06,840 Speaker 2: of finding the next head coach of the Ravens, And 156 00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:10,680 Speaker 2: it's just it's that's how the margins are so thin 157 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:13,160 Speaker 2: in this league, and I think that this is a 158 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:14,320 Speaker 2: perfect illustration of that. 159 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:17,920 Speaker 1: Right. Obviously, Steve Bashatti decided that it was just time, 160 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:22,040 Speaker 1: you know, and for as great a head coach as 161 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:25,280 Speaker 1: John is, you know, sometimes that time arrives, and it 162 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:28,920 Speaker 1: arrived today. And the Ravens obviously had a very challenging 163 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 1: season eight to nine, missed the playoffs for the first 164 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 1: time since twenty twenty one. You know, this team the 165 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:38,480 Speaker 1: past couple of years. In twenty twenty three was in 166 00:08:38,520 --> 00:08:42,440 Speaker 1: the AFC Championship number one seed. You know, you're on 167 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:44,720 Speaker 1: the knocking on the door of going back to Super Bowl. 168 00:08:44,760 --> 00:08:47,640 Speaker 1: In the past two seasons, it's gone down right, I 169 00:08:47,679 --> 00:08:51,080 Speaker 1: mean divisional loss in Buffalo last season, and then this 170 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:53,200 Speaker 1: year you don't make the playoffs. So obviously that's not 171 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:56,920 Speaker 1: the trajectory that Steve Bashatti wants for this organization. And 172 00:08:57,080 --> 00:09:01,320 Speaker 1: especially given the expectations of this season and the roster 173 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:04,480 Speaker 1: that the Ravens felt that they had coming into this year, 174 00:09:04,559 --> 00:09:05,800 Speaker 1: I think there was a lot of people in this 175 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:08,400 Speaker 1: building that thought, yeah, we're gonna make a run this year, 176 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 1: Like we have the pieces. To John's credit, in large part, 177 00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:14,520 Speaker 1: that's how you feel almost every year. You know that 178 00:09:14,559 --> 00:09:17,600 Speaker 1: they're capable, that windows been opened his entire tenure, really, 179 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:22,840 Speaker 1: but like, certainly this year there was very high expectations 180 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:25,160 Speaker 1: and the Ravens didn't meet those expectations. That's just the 181 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:27,520 Speaker 1: facts of the matter. And players talked about it in 182 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:30,120 Speaker 1: Locker clean Out as we spoke on our last episode 183 00:09:30,160 --> 00:09:32,840 Speaker 1: that they felt like they underperformed and this team just 184 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:36,200 Speaker 1: didn't reach it. And so when that happens, like this 185 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:39,200 Speaker 1: is just kind of what happens in the NFL sometimes 186 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:42,840 Speaker 1: is you know, it's it's a tough business. If Tyler 187 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:47,200 Speaker 1: Loop makes that kick, we're not talking about this today, right, 188 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:49,920 Speaker 1: and like and of course there's a million other things 189 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:51,600 Speaker 1: in that game that lead up to that moment, right, 190 00:09:51,640 --> 00:09:53,800 Speaker 1: and a million of other things over the course of 191 00:09:53,800 --> 00:09:56,679 Speaker 1: the season. If X, Y and Z don't happen, it's 192 00:09:56,720 --> 00:09:59,000 Speaker 1: a different year for the Ravens and this doesn't happen. 193 00:09:59,040 --> 00:10:03,400 Speaker 1: But obviously Sebashatti felt like it was time. You know, 194 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:06,000 Speaker 1: there was enough that went wrong this season that he 195 00:10:06,040 --> 00:10:09,560 Speaker 1: felt like it they needed to change direction. 196 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:13,360 Speaker 2: Yeah. I did an interview with Sebashatti and John Harbell 197 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:15,440 Speaker 2: together back to the owners meetings in the spring, and 198 00:10:15,679 --> 00:10:17,080 Speaker 2: one of the things that came out of that that 199 00:10:17,160 --> 00:10:19,360 Speaker 2: really stuck with me is is Steve made the point 200 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:21,320 Speaker 2: that I want to win now. I want to That's 201 00:10:21,400 --> 00:10:24,400 Speaker 2: what I want, and I don't like going, you know, 202 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:29,160 Speaker 2: twelve years between Super Bowl appearances, and and certainly that's 203 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:33,079 Speaker 2: the goal in the expectation that he has for this organization, 204 00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:35,040 Speaker 2: and and and John Harball has that same goal and 205 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:39,360 Speaker 2: expectation as well. Everybody I is has the hope of 206 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:41,600 Speaker 2: making it to that Super Bowl and competing for those 207 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:45,120 Speaker 2: And so I think that, you know, part of this 208 00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:47,640 Speaker 2: is when when you don't get to that point to 209 00:10:47,880 --> 00:10:51,880 Speaker 2: what you're saying there's there's change and turnover, and the 210 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:54,880 Speaker 2: Ravens they were they there their window is. They believe 211 00:10:54,880 --> 00:10:56,719 Speaker 2: the window is open. They want to go and win 212 00:10:56,720 --> 00:11:00,160 Speaker 2: a Super Bowl. And the inability to get to the 213 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:03,320 Speaker 2: playoffs this year for a variety of different reasons, obviously 214 00:11:03,400 --> 00:11:07,240 Speaker 2: is what ultimately led to this decision. But now the 215 00:11:07,280 --> 00:11:08,719 Speaker 2: Ravens are going to be looking for a new head 216 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:12,760 Speaker 2: coach to come in and lead this team and hit 217 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:15,800 Speaker 2: the ground running because there's obviously a quarterback here on 218 00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:18,600 Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson and a lot of talented pieces that the 219 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:22,080 Speaker 2: hope and the expectation is going to be to start 220 00:11:22,120 --> 00:11:23,080 Speaker 2: strong right out of the gate. 221 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:26,760 Speaker 1: The Ravens are the most attractive open job in the 222 00:11:26,880 --> 00:11:30,280 Speaker 1: NFL after this move, There's no doubt about that. With 223 00:11:30,679 --> 00:11:36,280 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson, with the continuity with the ownership, general manager organization, 224 00:11:36,559 --> 00:11:39,800 Speaker 1: just wide right, the Ravens are at the top of 225 00:11:39,840 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 1: the list. As I said at the start, they've only 226 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:47,080 Speaker 1: had three head coaches in franchise history. That's crazy, doesn't happen. 227 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:50,560 Speaker 1: And so the Ravens all of a sudden, are now 228 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:54,920 Speaker 1: where every coach probably wants to land. And I'm sure 229 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:57,079 Speaker 1: we're going to spend a lot of time talking about 230 00:11:57,120 --> 00:12:01,080 Speaker 1: this just for our listeners to note who is available 231 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 1: out there right now. You know some of the names 232 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:06,400 Speaker 1: among former head coaches if you were to go that route. 233 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:11,200 Speaker 1: Kevin Stefanski, who was relieved by the Browns. Robert Sala 234 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:14,360 Speaker 1: most recently here with the forty nine ers, he's still 235 00:12:14,360 --> 00:12:19,480 Speaker 1: coaching as their defensive coordinator. Robert Brian Flores, he's the 236 00:12:19,480 --> 00:12:23,080 Speaker 1: Minnesota Vikings, was the Minnesota Vikings defensive coordinator. Mike McCarthy, 237 00:12:23,200 --> 00:12:28,440 Speaker 1: Matt Nagy, Steve Spagnolo, Cliff Kingsbury, Brian Daball. There's just 238 00:12:28,480 --> 00:12:31,480 Speaker 1: some of the guys who could be the top candets 239 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:33,000 Speaker 1: among former head coaches. 240 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:35,560 Speaker 2: Yep. And then of course you have guys that have 241 00:12:35,760 --> 00:12:38,880 Speaker 2: not been head coaches before. Just like John Harbaugh eighteen 242 00:12:38,920 --> 00:12:40,760 Speaker 2: years ago had not previously been a head coach. He 243 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:42,959 Speaker 2: was somebody who was on a staff on Andy Restaff 244 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:45,880 Speaker 2: in Philadelphia, and the Ravens went and gave him the opportunity. 245 00:12:45,920 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 2: Some of the guys who could fall into that category 246 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:51,120 Speaker 2: Clint Kubiak, he's the offensive coordinator for the Seattle Seahawks. 247 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:54,600 Speaker 2: Jesse Minter, he's the DC for the Los Angeles Chargers 248 00:12:54,640 --> 00:12:58,679 Speaker 2: was previously here on John Harbaugh staff as a defensive assistant. 249 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:01,600 Speaker 2: You have Chris Shula, who who's the defensive coordinator of 250 00:13:01,640 --> 00:13:06,040 Speaker 2: the La Rams. You also have Clayton Adams the Cowboys 251 00:13:06,240 --> 00:13:10,320 Speaker 2: offensive coordinator. Lou and Arumo he's the Colts defensive coordinator. 252 00:13:10,640 --> 00:13:14,280 Speaker 2: Joe Brady who's the Bills offensive coordinator. You have Anthony 253 00:13:14,280 --> 00:13:17,720 Speaker 2: Weaver who's the defensive coordinator for the Miami Dolphins. Of course, 254 00:13:17,840 --> 00:13:19,880 Speaker 2: was a previously on John Harball staff here on the 255 00:13:19,880 --> 00:13:22,560 Speaker 2: defensive side and playing Ravers player, so he could be 256 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:26,400 Speaker 2: in the mix. And then look, college coaches, this is 257 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:28,320 Speaker 2: such an attractive job. I think that the Ravens are 258 00:13:28,360 --> 00:13:29,599 Speaker 2: going to have a lot of interests both in the 259 00:13:29,679 --> 00:13:33,200 Speaker 2: league and maybe even college. Marcus Freeman Notre Dame head coach, 260 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:35,880 Speaker 2: He's said that he's staying at Notre Dame, but. 261 00:13:36,120 --> 00:13:36,840 Speaker 1: Does this change? 262 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:39,880 Speaker 2: Does this change that? Like, you could have college coaches 263 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:43,200 Speaker 2: that are interested in this, in this opportunity, and so 264 00:13:43,679 --> 00:13:46,000 Speaker 2: I think that there's going to be a lot of interest, certainly, 265 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:49,400 Speaker 2: and the Ravens are going to go through an extensive 266 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:51,800 Speaker 2: process to find the right coach. And I think that 267 00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:53,760 Speaker 2: there's a lot of confidence and optimism in the Ravens 268 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:56,319 Speaker 2: ability to find that right coach, Like you go back 269 00:13:56,360 --> 00:14:00,880 Speaker 2: eighteen years and there weren't. John Harball was not necessarily 270 00:14:00,960 --> 00:14:05,160 Speaker 2: the favorite to land this job going into it, but 271 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:07,960 Speaker 2: he ended up getting the job and held onto it 272 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:11,079 Speaker 2: for nearly two decades. And so obviously the hope is 273 00:14:11,120 --> 00:14:12,439 Speaker 2: going to be defined somebody who's going to be in 274 00:14:12,480 --> 00:14:14,680 Speaker 2: the job for the next eighteen twenty years. 275 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:19,360 Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, absolutely, And I think I wouldn't be surprised 276 00:14:19,680 --> 00:14:23,080 Speaker 1: both both organizations could or both parties I should say, 277 00:14:23,360 --> 00:14:25,280 Speaker 1: could have a lot of success after this, right, Like 278 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:28,480 Speaker 1: the Ravens obviously are hoping that this shake up leads 279 00:14:28,520 --> 00:14:31,080 Speaker 1: to them getting over the hump which they have struggled 280 00:14:31,080 --> 00:14:35,960 Speaker 1: to do, you know during this latest tenure the Lamar 281 00:14:36,280 --> 00:14:40,680 Speaker 1: Harves era. And for John Harball, it wouldn't surprise me 282 00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:43,040 Speaker 1: in the slightest if he goes somewhere else and has 283 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:46,160 Speaker 1: a lot of success too. That could very well happen, right, Like, 284 00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:49,400 Speaker 1: this is just kind of one of those breakups, for 285 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:52,200 Speaker 1: lack of a better word, that like maybe both parties 286 00:14:52,680 --> 00:14:53,880 Speaker 1: end up benefiting from this. 287 00:14:54,160 --> 00:14:57,240 Speaker 2: Well. I think the classic example of what you're talking 288 00:14:57,240 --> 00:15:00,680 Speaker 2: about is Andy Reid and Philadelphia, they've parted way Andy 289 00:15:00,680 --> 00:15:02,720 Speaker 2: of course, ultimately went to Kansas City has won multiple 290 00:15:02,760 --> 00:15:05,640 Speaker 2: Super Bowls there. The Eagles have won multiple Super Bowls. 291 00:15:05,680 --> 00:15:08,200 Speaker 2: They won with Doug Peterson, they've won another with Nick Sirianni. 292 00:15:08,520 --> 00:15:12,400 Speaker 2: So both sides have had success there, and that's that's 293 00:15:12,440 --> 00:15:14,360 Speaker 2: what you hope for. That's what you hope for, exactly, 294 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:16,680 Speaker 2: of course, you for both parties, right, and so I 295 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:19,640 Speaker 2: think that that could definitely that could definitely end up 296 00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:21,840 Speaker 2: being the result of what happens here. 297 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:24,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, Well, I just want to say thank you 298 00:15:24,480 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 1: to John Harball for everything that he has done for 299 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:30,320 Speaker 1: me personally, for our organization, and you know, have a 300 00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:32,840 Speaker 1: ton of respect for the guy and wish him all 301 00:15:32,840 --> 00:15:33,120 Speaker 1: the best. 302 00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:37,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, I echoed that sentiment. Certainly, somebody who made his 303 00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:42,400 Speaker 2: mark on this organization, the city, this community, and and 304 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:46,320 Speaker 2: thankful for everything that he did for us here. You know, 305 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:48,600 Speaker 2: we had him on the podcast many times, We enjoyed it, 306 00:15:48,800 --> 00:15:51,800 Speaker 2: lots of conversations with him over the years, and. 307 00:15:51,520 --> 00:15:53,480 Speaker 1: Goodness that we've been I've been here for seventeen of 308 00:15:53,520 --> 00:15:57,240 Speaker 1: his eighteen years. Yeah, long relationship, right, and you've been 309 00:15:57,240 --> 00:15:57,960 Speaker 1: just about the same. 310 00:15:58,040 --> 00:15:59,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, But fifteen of them, so we've a lot of 311 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:04,280 Speaker 2: conversations with that man. Yeah, privilege to have been working 312 00:16:04,280 --> 00:16:07,280 Speaker 2: here throughout his tenure ye and in pretty rare air 313 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:09,800 Speaker 2: to have only had one head coach throughout our two 314 00:16:09,840 --> 00:16:12,400 Speaker 2: tenures here, which are long in the NFL, So thank 315 00:16:12,440 --> 00:16:14,560 Speaker 2: you to him, wish him the best, and certainly we'll 316 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:16,800 Speaker 2: be talking about all of this over the course of 317 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:18,800 Speaker 2: the rest of the next few weeks and all season. 318 00:16:18,880 --> 00:16:20,440 Speaker 2: As always, you can email us a p lounge at 319 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:23,120 Speaker 2: Ravens NFL dot net. Thank you so much for listening. 320 00:16:23,200 --> 00:16:24,440 Speaker 2: We'll be back with you again soon.