1 00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:06,720 Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff to Blow your Mind from how Stuff 2 00:00:06,720 --> 00:00:13,800 Speaker 1: Works dot com. Hey, welcome to stuff to Blow your Mind. 3 00:00:13,920 --> 00:00:16,160 Speaker 1: My name is Robert Lamp and I'm Julie Techlass. Julie, 4 00:00:16,160 --> 00:00:19,279 Speaker 1: When you were a kid, did you ever make mud pies? Yeah? 5 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:22,400 Speaker 1: Do you remember any of your recipes? Um? I just 6 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:26,680 Speaker 1: remember an ordinate amount of them because it was rural Michigan, right, 7 00:00:26,720 --> 00:00:30,000 Speaker 1: so there wasn't a lot to do um at that time, 8 00:00:30,080 --> 00:00:32,040 Speaker 1: and so I just remember making them by the side 9 00:00:32,080 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 1: of the house and I used my hands mostly to 10 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:37,839 Speaker 1: shape them though. Cool. Yeah, yeah, we we did as well, 11 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:40,240 Speaker 1: me and my sister's we there was a faucet behind 12 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:42,680 Speaker 1: the house. There's like a concrete slab back there for 13 00:00:42,720 --> 00:00:47,080 Speaker 1: some reason, and then just dirt, so we would, uh, 14 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:49,200 Speaker 1: you know, we'd add some water to the to the dirt, 15 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:54,120 Speaker 1: create mud, pack that mud into pie tins and also 16 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:56,000 Speaker 1: many pie tins, and then you you leave them out 17 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:58,640 Speaker 1: there on the slab, they bake, they dry, they become 18 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:02,440 Speaker 1: delicious pies, and that's when you cut a slice and 19 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:04,560 Speaker 1: you eat it, right, you know. I don't know if 20 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 1: I ever did, but I was the older of the kids, 21 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:12,280 Speaker 1: and it's entirely possible that the my younger siblings ate 22 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:14,440 Speaker 1: some of the mud pies. And you know what, that's 23 00:01:14,480 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 1: not probably a surprise to any parent, because all parents 24 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 1: know that at some point their kid is going to 25 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:21,679 Speaker 1: be chomping on something, some sort of non food item 26 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:26,400 Speaker 1: that they shouldn't be. But it turns out that dirt eating, 27 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:30,560 Speaker 1: which is called pikea, which is actually a lot more 28 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:33,640 Speaker 1: than dirt eating, is so much more common than anybody 29 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:37,840 Speaker 1: has ever really realized, also known as geophagy. If you 30 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 1: want to get fancier, that's pretty fancy. So we've talked 31 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:45,240 Speaker 1: about the benefits of premastication and regurgitation and other podcasts, 32 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 1: so we thought, we know what, why not talk about 33 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 1: dirt eating because it's kind of fascinating stuff. Yeah, Now, 34 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 1: from a very broad viewpoint, there's nothing really that weird 35 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:57,720 Speaker 1: about it. I mean, there are organisms that eat minerals. 36 00:01:57,800 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 1: The mineral crunching bacteria for instance, um exists. And then 37 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:03,440 Speaker 1: just in any diet, I mean, what do you think 38 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:05,800 Speaker 1: you're doing when you put salt on something. You're adding 39 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 1: a little mineral to your diet. It's it's not crazy. Um. Likewise, 40 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:13,120 Speaker 1: the various medications that we take have some sort of 41 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:17,240 Speaker 1: mineral component too, So there's nothing just off the wall 42 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:22,280 Speaker 1: nuts about eating dirt, eating minerals, eating essentially rocks. Yeah, 43 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:24,960 Speaker 1: and you've probably even witnessed your dog or cat eating 44 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:29,160 Speaker 1: something that's a non food item, especially dogs, especially dogs. 45 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:32,239 Speaker 1: In fact, you might have even witness phyto chopping down 46 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:34,800 Speaker 1: on a chunk of poo before, right, Yeah, especially cat, 47 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:40,000 Speaker 1: this happens. It's called corpor fagia, and it actually means 48 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:42,640 Speaker 1: that your dog could have a vitamin deficiency or even 49 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 1: a touch of O C D. And this is something 50 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:47,720 Speaker 1: we're going to talk about more in humans later. Um, 51 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:50,120 Speaker 1: But before we really kind of get into the meat 52 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:52,400 Speaker 1: of this or the dirt of it, let's talk a 53 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:57,840 Speaker 1: bit about what it is. UM. How it's characterized picka 54 00:02:57,960 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 1: is actually comes from the Latin word for magpie, since 55 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:05,399 Speaker 1: the magpie bird will eat just about anything, and it's 56 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 1: been thought of as a physiological eating disorder. And as 57 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 1: you have noted, it's also called geo foggia or earth eating. 58 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:18,920 Speaker 1: And in humans it's mainly pregnant women and pre adolescent 59 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:23,000 Speaker 1: children who exhibit pica eating behavior. And again, when we 60 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:25,640 Speaker 1: talk about pica, it's most associated with dirt, but it 61 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:28,040 Speaker 1: can be a lot of different things. It can be clay, 62 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 1: it can be starch. Yeah, I mean I was looking 63 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 1: at some some reports. We're talking about ice. Uh, pregnant 64 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:38,280 Speaker 1: women that experiencing pica, and half of them are eating ice, 65 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:42,200 Speaker 1: which is pago foggia, which is different. I mean eating 66 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 1: a bunch of ices. You're just drinking a lot of water, 67 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 1: except with more crunch, right. Yeah. And some people say 68 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 1: that it's a texture thing and it can be a 69 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:52,120 Speaker 1: stress thing when it comes time soothing on the tongue 70 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:56,160 Speaker 1: and all that. Now with with children, obviously, children, very 71 00:03:56,200 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 1: young children will try and eat just about anything. That's 72 00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 1: why you don't give them micro machine to play with. 73 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:04,120 Speaker 1: That's why you you limit things in their environment. They 74 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:06,800 Speaker 1: can go down their mouth throughout their nose, because it's 75 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:09,520 Speaker 1: just part of the testing out their environment. What can 76 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:11,480 Speaker 1: I eat, what can I not? What goes fits up 77 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:14,400 Speaker 1: my nose, what doesn't quite fit up my nose? Yeah. 78 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:17,200 Speaker 1: But then there's this other little section um that kind 79 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 1: of veers off into other territory, and it's more about 80 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 1: compulsive eating, and that's where you see very unusual non 81 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 1: food items. So we're talking about cigarette ashes, toothpicks, athletic socks, 82 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:33,039 Speaker 1: dust balloons, paint chips, hair, and burnt matches. Oh yeah, 83 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 1: the heroines big you do see that. Yeah, And depending 84 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:38,159 Speaker 1: on the item that's being eaten pick it could lead 85 00:04:38,160 --> 00:04:40,800 Speaker 1: to health problems like lead poisoning from the paint chips 86 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:44,040 Speaker 1: or constipation from starch or clay in take because everything 87 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:47,200 Speaker 1: in moderation. Don't go out and eat just a whole 88 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:49,400 Speaker 1: lot of pizza, don't go out and drink in a 89 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:52,400 Speaker 1: xominant amount of water. And if you're going to eat 90 00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:56,040 Speaker 1: gym socks, keep it down there like one or two 91 00:04:56,040 --> 00:04:58,120 Speaker 1: pairs tops. All right, let's see that's the problem, right, 92 00:04:58,120 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 1: If you're eating gym socks is probably because you have 93 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:03,320 Speaker 1: compulsion to do so something. Yeah, there's it's a psychological 94 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:05,680 Speaker 1: disorder at that point. Yeah. So this podcast is really 95 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:07,560 Speaker 1: going to talk about two different aspects of pick A. 96 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:11,080 Speaker 1: One is more sort of the cultural aspects and the 97 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:13,240 Speaker 1: nutritive aspects, and the other is going to be more 98 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:17,200 Speaker 1: of the psychological and sort of the compulsion aspect of it. 99 00:05:17,560 --> 00:05:21,040 Speaker 1: But I did want to mention that pica has been 100 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:24,680 Speaker 1: around for a long time. The first written account of 101 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:28,960 Speaker 1: human geophagey comes from Hippocrates more than two thousand years ago, 102 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 1: so we've been eating dirt for quite some time. And 103 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:34,479 Speaker 1: I've also read accounts, um, and I don't know to 104 00:05:34,520 --> 00:05:36,560 Speaker 1: what degree they were accurate now that I think about them, 105 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:39,840 Speaker 1: but you at least find stories in which individuals are 106 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:44,359 Speaker 1: so hungry that to set to satisfy their hunger on 107 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:46,839 Speaker 1: some level, they will eat non food items. And certainly 108 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:48,800 Speaker 1: there have been plenty of times where food items have 109 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:51,560 Speaker 1: been panned out, like during the Second World War, there 110 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:54,919 Speaker 1: were times when they would add uh, say wood shavings, um, 111 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:58,800 Speaker 1: sawdust to uh to say flower or something, you know, 112 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 1: and it's not really food item, but you can sort 113 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:03,960 Speaker 1: of try and make your food stretched a little a 114 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:06,160 Speaker 1: little farther. By doing that, you're right in filling up 115 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:08,279 Speaker 1: your belly. Right, So if you eat a bunch of clay, 116 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:10,880 Speaker 1: then maybe that can stem off your your hunger for 117 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:14,160 Speaker 1: a little while. Um. So let's talk about the cultural 118 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:17,359 Speaker 1: aspect of this, because in some cultures, both inside and 119 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:21,000 Speaker 1: outside the United States, it really is not uncommon for say, 120 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:24,360 Speaker 1: women to consume clay or dirt during pregnancy, and that's 121 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:28,039 Speaker 1: where we most associate pica. And it's interesting, I didn't 122 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:30,480 Speaker 1: find any sources that really went into this. But by 123 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:32,919 Speaker 1: the mere fact that you see pregnant women engaging in it, 124 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:36,320 Speaker 1: I feel like there's a huge amount of sexism in 125 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:41,719 Speaker 1: our cultural history with pica because women are the ones 126 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:45,680 Speaker 1: that are are eating it, and they're doing so on 127 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:49,560 Speaker 1: they're pregnant, and so in many cultures, I mean, you 128 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 1: you can easily imagine it being explained away as oh, 129 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:54,599 Speaker 1: it's crazy pregnant ladies. Of course they're going to do 130 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:59,160 Speaker 1: crazy things. Um, Whereas as as we're discussing, there are 131 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:02,520 Speaker 1: a number of other possibilities at work here beyond just 132 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:07,440 Speaker 1: mere madness. Yeah, I mean, sometimes it is an aspect 133 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:11,520 Speaker 1: of cultural bonding that that women, pregnant women will eat 134 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:15,160 Speaker 1: clay or some other substance because it's what's done in 135 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 1: that community, and there's this idea that it could save 136 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 1: off symptoms of pregnancy like nausea. And then sometimes it 137 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:25,920 Speaker 1: has to do with vitamin deficiencies, which we'll talk about 138 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:28,280 Speaker 1: a little bit more. Uh. Yeah, but certainly you have 139 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:30,520 Speaker 1: a culture aspect. It's just one huge part there. If 140 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:33,040 Speaker 1: you're if you're in an environment in a culture where 141 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:36,400 Speaker 1: it is accepted that the consuming clay or some sort 142 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 1: of mineral during this time is beneficial and okay, then 143 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 1: obviously you're gonna go for it, whereas in other areas 144 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:43,920 Speaker 1: it's going to be basically a taboo. It's just gonna 145 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:46,640 Speaker 1: be you know, it's who eats dirt? Yeah, it's kind 146 00:07:46,680 --> 00:07:48,760 Speaker 1: of like, what what is that cultural norm there? Right? So, 147 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 1: if you're in ken, you are you gonda? Dirt eating 148 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:53,160 Speaker 1: is not going to be so weird because it could 149 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 1: be used in ceremonial or religious practices. But then half 150 00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:58,480 Speaker 1: a world away, somebody else is bringing their own cultural 151 00:07:58,480 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 1: bias to it and they're saying, whoa, look at these 152 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:03,520 Speaker 1: backwards people in this backwards country eating dirt like moron. 153 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:06,560 Speaker 1: But they're just because they have their cultural blinders on, 154 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:09,920 Speaker 1: they don't realize that it is essentially a normal act. Yeah, 155 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:12,200 Speaker 1: let me share this historical tidbit with you because I 156 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 1: think it's really interesting. Um. In Psychology Today's Brain Sense column, 157 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:18,480 Speaker 1: it's pointed out that clay eating and soil eating were 158 00:08:18,520 --> 00:08:21,560 Speaker 1: common in the eight hundreds, especially among slaves in the 159 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:24,680 Speaker 1: American South, and then in the fifties and sixties, the 160 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 1: practice was so popular that clay filled lunch bags were 161 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 1: sold at Alabama bus stops for snacks as travelers and 162 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 1: Southerners would male bags of hometown clay to their friends 163 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:39,520 Speaker 1: and relatives who moved north, and in some reports estimate 164 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:43,160 Speaker 1: that clay eating is a daily practice in over two 165 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:47,520 Speaker 1: hundred cultures worldwide. Well, you know, there's something perhaps in 166 00:08:47,600 --> 00:08:51,559 Speaker 1: a psychological and almost magical thinking level, where like the 167 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:54,520 Speaker 1: the earth that you were from, you would want to 168 00:08:54,559 --> 00:08:57,360 Speaker 1: engage with it like it I mean also reminds me 169 00:08:57,360 --> 00:09:02,960 Speaker 1: of a Dracula. When Dracula moved um to London from Transylvania, 170 00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:06,360 Speaker 1: he had his native dirt shipped with him because he 171 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:09,760 Speaker 1: needed that dirt to really to be I mean, that 172 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 1: was his home. He had to bring a chunk of 173 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:13,600 Speaker 1: his home with And of course we all do that 174 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:15,640 Speaker 1: when we travel. We want to bring a piece not 175 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:18,000 Speaker 1: the dirt necessarily the grave dirt, but we bring a 176 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:20,400 Speaker 1: piece of the place we were with us, you know. 177 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:23,520 Speaker 1: Well yeah, and and depending on the area that you're in, 178 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:25,960 Speaker 1: you're going to have a different content in terms of 179 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:30,079 Speaker 1: minerals and other things that could potentially be helpful to someone. 180 00:09:30,160 --> 00:09:32,719 Speaker 1: We'll talk more about that later. Oh yeah, it kind 181 00:09:32,760 --> 00:09:36,280 Speaker 1: of comes right back around into some of the discussions 182 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:39,040 Speaker 1: you hear involving, say, the consumption of local honey to 183 00:09:39,160 --> 00:09:44,000 Speaker 1: deal with local pathoges. You know, the the idea that 184 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:45,960 Speaker 1: that you were essentially a local being and the more 185 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:48,840 Speaker 1: you consume locally, the more in tune within with the 186 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:51,280 Speaker 1: local ecosystem you're going to be. So this is a 187 00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:56,040 Speaker 1: story really about how widespread and common it is. In fact, um, 188 00:09:56,080 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 1: you know, the Agency for Toxic Substances and Disease Registry 189 00:09:59,320 --> 00:10:02,640 Speaker 1: decided that pica couldn't be considered abnormal because it was 190 00:10:02,679 --> 00:10:06,520 Speaker 1: so widespread and because it was associated with cultural practice 191 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 1: practices as opposed to uh, you know, some sort of 192 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:14,720 Speaker 1: O C D behavior. Now the question becomes, well, what's 193 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:20,839 Speaker 1: the deal with eating things that are non nutritive or 194 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:23,800 Speaker 1: outside of the cultural norm that don't have anything to 195 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:26,920 Speaker 1: do with cultural practices or religious practices? For instance, like 196 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:30,960 Speaker 1: what's the deal with eating something like toilet paper? Um? 197 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:33,160 Speaker 1: Where does where does that all fit into this? Because 198 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:35,040 Speaker 1: this is under the heading of pica, right, and that 199 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:38,160 Speaker 1: the Japanese diet, the Jinnameroni was on. She could eat 200 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:41,440 Speaker 1: all these she could eat all the the tissue paper 201 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:44,280 Speaker 1: or just paper I think she wanted. But you can 202 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:47,880 Speaker 1: only eat paper. That's right, that's right. Um. So other 203 00:10:47,960 --> 00:10:52,280 Speaker 1: than in pregnant women, chronic pica or this kind of um, 204 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:55,120 Speaker 1: you know, outside of again the cultural norm, pica is 205 00:10:55,160 --> 00:10:59,719 Speaker 1: most common in people with developmental disabilities, including including autism. 206 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:03,400 Speaker 1: This in children, UM and typically the children are between 207 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:06,560 Speaker 1: the ages of two and three when this begins to surface. 208 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:10,000 Speaker 1: Pica also may surface in children who have had a 209 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:14,360 Speaker 1: brain injury affecting their development. And according to Kids Health, 210 00:11:14,400 --> 00:11:17,160 Speaker 1: between ten and thirty percent of kids ages one to 211 00:11:17,280 --> 00:11:21,400 Speaker 1: six years have the eating disorder of pica. And again, 212 00:11:21,440 --> 00:11:26,200 Speaker 1: this is characterized by persistent and compulsive cravings that last 213 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:29,600 Speaker 1: for one month or longer to eat these non food items. 214 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:33,000 Speaker 1: So naturally, if you have this compulsion to eat things 215 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:35,240 Speaker 1: that are not food, it can reak havoc on your 216 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:38,760 Speaker 1: digestive system. And there's there's actually been an uptick in this, 217 00:11:39,559 --> 00:11:42,719 Speaker 1: Yeah's a huge one that's studied by the Agency for 218 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:45,680 Speaker 1: Healthcare Research and Quality found that hospitalizations for pica in 219 00:11:45,679 --> 00:11:50,320 Speaker 1: a ten year span jumped n That is huge. So 220 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:53,680 Speaker 1: what happens that people are hospitalized for a laundry list 221 00:11:53,679 --> 00:11:57,280 Speaker 1: of problems, including obstruction of the bowel or airways from 222 00:11:57,320 --> 00:12:01,200 Speaker 1: consuming or choking on stuff like hair, high blood pressure, 223 00:12:01,280 --> 00:12:03,800 Speaker 1: high levels of sodium salts in the blood, and abnormal 224 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:08,080 Speaker 1: liver functions because of consuming huge quantities of something like 225 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:12,480 Speaker 1: baking powder. So again, the list of Pika items is. 226 00:12:12,840 --> 00:12:14,840 Speaker 1: You know, you'll get some lists than their twenty items 227 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:17,680 Speaker 1: long thirty items long, and they range anywhere from like 228 00:12:17,880 --> 00:12:21,319 Speaker 1: you know, chalk again, hair, you know, chumping, chomping on 229 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:26,120 Speaker 1: match sticks or yeah, or people trying to get into 230 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:28,520 Speaker 1: the Guinness Book. There. You have a certain subset of 231 00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:30,920 Speaker 1: people who are always trying to do things like can 232 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:34,839 Speaker 1: I pass an entire toy train through my digestive system 233 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:37,480 Speaker 1: piece by piece? So they'll take something big, take it up. 234 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:40,400 Speaker 1: I think people have done this with cars before, their ideas. 235 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:42,720 Speaker 1: Can I consume a car piece by piece and pass 236 00:12:42,760 --> 00:12:44,959 Speaker 1: it through my body? Does it come out altogether on 237 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:48,240 Speaker 1: the other end, Yeah, it just naturally comes out whole. 238 00:12:48,280 --> 00:12:50,520 Speaker 1: I don't know how they do it, but I mean 239 00:12:50,559 --> 00:12:52,520 Speaker 1: maybe it's sort of a sense of power in that. 240 00:12:52,559 --> 00:12:55,800 Speaker 1: It's like, like you're not so tough, Folkswagen. I can 241 00:12:55,800 --> 00:12:58,280 Speaker 1: eat you in small pieces, but I can still eat you. 242 00:12:58,440 --> 00:13:00,520 Speaker 1: I don't know. When I hear at things like that. 243 00:13:00,559 --> 00:13:02,560 Speaker 1: I always think that that's one of those things where 244 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:04,240 Speaker 1: you feel like you have a measure of control over 245 00:13:04,280 --> 00:13:08,079 Speaker 1: your life, right, So everything else could be spiling, spiraling 246 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:09,920 Speaker 1: out of control, and then you begin to obsess on 247 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:12,439 Speaker 1: this one thing that you can control. So it's sort 248 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:16,560 Speaker 1: of interesting and that if you look at um pica 249 00:13:16,640 --> 00:13:19,320 Speaker 1: and you look at it in the O C D spectrum, 250 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:23,760 Speaker 1: very well maybe related to that, especially because they've taken 251 00:13:23,800 --> 00:13:27,840 Speaker 1: studies of people with pica and they've given them they've 252 00:13:27,840 --> 00:13:31,839 Speaker 1: given them the S s R eyes the serotonin uptake inhibitors, right, 253 00:13:32,440 --> 00:13:34,480 Speaker 1: that helps you balance out the serotonin in your brain. 254 00:13:34,520 --> 00:13:37,560 Speaker 1: These are largely a class of antidepressants, and they have 255 00:13:37,679 --> 00:13:41,160 Speaker 1: found that that is really effective for people with pica, 256 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:44,240 Speaker 1: helps to curb their behaviors or their compulsions to do this. 257 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:47,520 Speaker 1: So there's this idea that it is existing on that 258 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:49,520 Speaker 1: that spectrum. All right, we're gonna take a quick break 259 00:13:49,559 --> 00:13:51,640 Speaker 1: and when we come back, we're going to press on 260 00:13:52,559 --> 00:13:55,920 Speaker 1: with with dirt eating, with mineral eating and uh and 261 00:13:55,920 --> 00:13:59,440 Speaker 1: some of the the the vitamin deficiency elements of this. 262 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:08,719 Speaker 1: All right, we're back, and uh, you know, as we 263 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:14,079 Speaker 1: mentioned earlier, eating dirt eating things that are essentially the earth. 264 00:14:14,280 --> 00:14:16,800 Speaker 1: Are not that crazy when you think about the fact 265 00:14:16,840 --> 00:14:19,440 Speaker 1: that we put salt in our food. We use various 266 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:22,800 Speaker 1: minerals in our cooking and in our medication, So we're 267 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:25,760 Speaker 1: doing it. Everyone is doing some of this anyway, perhaps 268 00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:29,000 Speaker 1: just in a more elegant fashion. Well, I think about 269 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:33,120 Speaker 1: stomach upset, right. Are you familiar with kaopect tape? Yes? Okay, Well, 270 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:36,160 Speaker 1: that has something called kalin in it, and kalin is 271 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:39,640 Speaker 1: really helpful. It's in clay and it can combat diarrhea 272 00:14:39,800 --> 00:14:42,280 Speaker 1: because it forms a protective coating in the lining of 273 00:14:42,280 --> 00:14:45,400 Speaker 1: the intestine and binds bacteria there. So in some parts 274 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:48,880 Speaker 1: of Nigeria you see people eating this kaleon night as 275 00:14:48,960 --> 00:14:51,080 Speaker 1: kind of clay. Yeah, the idea that you're eating this 276 00:14:51,200 --> 00:14:55,120 Speaker 1: to ramp up the protection in your gut against something 277 00:14:55,120 --> 00:14:57,440 Speaker 1: that you just state. You see various animals that do 278 00:14:57,520 --> 00:15:01,040 Speaker 1: this after they have consumed um a toxic plant or 279 00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:03,800 Speaker 1: a semi toxic plant, something that if they just ate 280 00:15:03,880 --> 00:15:06,640 Speaker 1: it by itself, it would just become an increasingly more 281 00:15:06,680 --> 00:15:10,240 Speaker 1: of a problem with cause diarrhea, etcetera. And uh, I've 282 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:13,640 Speaker 1: read some explanations of this where they essentially say that 283 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:16,680 Speaker 1: it's it's us refusing to be bossed around by plants, 284 00:15:17,160 --> 00:15:20,720 Speaker 1: because plants are ultimately have it figured out. I mean, 285 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:23,480 Speaker 1: there are plants that have that grow everywhere now because 286 00:15:23,520 --> 00:15:27,320 Speaker 1: they have and I hate to personify evolution too much, 287 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:31,720 Speaker 1: but or personify plants, but they've essentially figured it out. It's, 288 00:15:31,800 --> 00:15:34,000 Speaker 1: you know, they know people need potatoes, they know people 289 00:15:34,040 --> 00:15:37,200 Speaker 1: need uh um, you know, illicit substances that they produce, 290 00:15:37,320 --> 00:15:39,720 Speaker 1: and it's they kind of they gained the system to 291 00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:43,880 Speaker 1: their advantage. So vegetation that has a fruit that is 292 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:47,760 Speaker 1: toxic or slightly toxic, toxic uh, they're telling us where 293 00:15:47,880 --> 00:15:49,440 Speaker 1: we can eat them, when we can eat them, how 294 00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:51,440 Speaker 1: much we can eat them, and who can eat them. 295 00:15:51,520 --> 00:15:56,000 Speaker 1: And so the the ability to consume clay um or 296 00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:59,520 Speaker 1: some other substance uh is essentially our way of saying, actually, 297 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:01,560 Speaker 1: I'm going to decide when I'm going to eat you 298 00:16:01,560 --> 00:16:03,160 Speaker 1: and how much of you I am going to eat, 299 00:16:03,800 --> 00:16:05,800 Speaker 1: right because I figured out a way you're gaming me, 300 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 1: and I've figured out a way to game you so 301 00:16:07,880 --> 00:16:10,360 Speaker 1: that I can still get some sort of food resource. Yeah, 302 00:16:10,440 --> 00:16:15,080 Speaker 1: that's the whole, the whole evolutionary battle in essence. Now, 303 00:16:15,160 --> 00:16:18,040 Speaker 1: um Pica is thought to be associated with low levels 304 00:16:18,080 --> 00:16:21,520 Speaker 1: of iron in some people, um calcium, zinc, and vitamin C, 305 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:26,040 Speaker 1: and pica may appear in as many as half of 306 00:16:26,040 --> 00:16:29,440 Speaker 1: those with iron deficiency and has been reported in about 307 00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:33,360 Speaker 1: twenty of pregnant women, and a study in France found 308 00:16:33,400 --> 00:16:39,080 Speaker 1: that among seventy nine patients with iron deficiency anema excuse 309 00:16:39,080 --> 00:16:45,000 Speaker 1: me anemia reported the regular ingestion of non food items, 310 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:49,000 Speaker 1: while only nine percent of the non amnemic subjects in 311 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:51,840 Speaker 1: the control report of this behavior. So already you're seeing 312 00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:54,680 Speaker 1: here that there's there's a pretty good amount of data 313 00:16:54,760 --> 00:16:58,320 Speaker 1: that is saying that people are sometimes seeking it out 314 00:16:58,840 --> 00:17:02,520 Speaker 1: and sometimes not even uh you know, unbenounced themselves right now, 315 00:17:02,520 --> 00:17:05,440 Speaker 1: because the body is saying we need this, right, we 316 00:17:05,520 --> 00:17:08,199 Speaker 1: need an intake of this substance or this substance. We 317 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:12,360 Speaker 1: need more iron, Go find it and instinctively we know 318 00:17:12,640 --> 00:17:14,920 Speaker 1: where iron occurs. Right, And that's when when you think 319 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:17,640 Speaker 1: about pica, you tend to think again back to pregnant 320 00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:21,160 Speaker 1: women or children who there there are cities that show 321 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:24,200 Speaker 1: that they do have a low level of these vitamins 322 00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:27,480 Speaker 1: are and are perhaps seeking it out. Yeah, children are growing, 323 00:17:27,560 --> 00:17:31,560 Speaker 1: they need some they need more vitamins to to grow. 324 00:17:31,760 --> 00:17:33,439 Speaker 1: You see that in the animal kingdom as well. For instance, 325 00:17:33,480 --> 00:17:37,159 Speaker 1: dear during antler growth period, there's a lot of tissue 326 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:39,680 Speaker 1: growth going on pretty rapidly, so you'll see them eat 327 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:43,720 Speaker 1: calcium and magnesium rich soils during that time. Yeah. And 328 00:17:43,800 --> 00:17:47,000 Speaker 1: if you think that that the pregnant women and the 329 00:17:47,080 --> 00:17:49,879 Speaker 1: children are just sort of, you know, an anomaly or 330 00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:52,520 Speaker 1: went off, this is really interesting. There's a study that 331 00:17:52,560 --> 00:17:56,760 Speaker 1: was published in the Quarterly Review for Biology, and again 332 00:17:56,760 --> 00:17:59,320 Speaker 1: it looked at pica and pregnant women in pre adolescent 333 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:02,919 Speaker 1: children and it found that they are also the most 334 00:18:03,160 --> 00:18:08,600 Speaker 1: sensitive to parasites and pathogens. So Cornell University researcher Sarah Young, 335 00:18:08,680 --> 00:18:12,240 Speaker 1: who is also the studies lead author, she put together 336 00:18:12,280 --> 00:18:15,920 Speaker 1: a database of more than four hundred and eighty cultural 337 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:19,760 Speaker 1: accounts of geofagi and the database includes as many details 338 00:18:19,840 --> 00:18:23,720 Speaker 1: as possible about the circumstance, circumstances under which the dirt 339 00:18:23,800 --> 00:18:27,560 Speaker 1: was consumed and by whom. And then they found again 340 00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:30,040 Speaker 1: that not only was it pregnant women and kids who 341 00:18:30,119 --> 00:18:33,200 Speaker 1: engaged in the dirt eating, it was far more prevalent 342 00:18:33,680 --> 00:18:36,400 Speaker 1: in tropical climates because this is where you have many 343 00:18:36,440 --> 00:18:39,840 Speaker 1: more food born microbes that are that are very abundant 344 00:18:40,359 --> 00:18:42,840 Speaker 1: and uh, and they find that these two groups of 345 00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:47,760 Speaker 1: people tended to eat the dirt during a gastro intestinal distress. 346 00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:51,640 Speaker 1: So the story that's painted here is that this dirt 347 00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:55,320 Speaker 1: eating is helping to keep those pathogens and those parasites 348 00:18:55,440 --> 00:18:59,480 Speaker 1: at bay in those different cultures and protecting against these 349 00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:01,960 Speaker 1: two groups that are so sensitive to them. And I 350 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:05,399 Speaker 1: thought this was interesting young who said in her study, 351 00:19:05,480 --> 00:19:08,280 Speaker 1: we hope readers agree that it's time to stop regarding 352 00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:13,919 Speaker 1: Geoflagi as a bizarre, non adaptive gustatory mistake. So in 353 00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:16,760 Speaker 1: this realm, you see it not as you know, something 354 00:19:16,800 --> 00:19:19,399 Speaker 1: that's a compulsion or perhaps part of the O C 355 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:23,639 Speaker 1: D spectrum, but more again lining up with what the 356 00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:25,760 Speaker 1: body is needing or trying to guard it stuff against, 357 00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:29,159 Speaker 1: or as you say, gaming what's around you, right, gaming 358 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:32,040 Speaker 1: those parasites or pathogens. And as we discussed before, I 359 00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:34,800 Speaker 1: mean it also comes back to understanding the mind body connection, 360 00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:37,840 Speaker 1: realizing that our that there's more going on in our bodies, 361 00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:41,200 Speaker 1: that our bodies not just a magic throne that our 362 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:43,840 Speaker 1: brain rides in, but it is part and partial to 363 00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:46,240 Speaker 1: who we are, and the more we understand about its 364 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:49,000 Speaker 1: cravings and its needs and its desires, uh, in terms 365 00:19:49,040 --> 00:19:51,719 Speaker 1: of in this case in terms of minerals um and 366 00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:55,520 Speaker 1: and Clay's and whatnot. The more we understand how we work, 367 00:19:55,720 --> 00:19:58,159 Speaker 1: and then we know that that this kind of behavior 368 00:19:58,200 --> 00:20:00,040 Speaker 1: is not something that stands outside of ourselves, but it 369 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:02,639 Speaker 1: is a part of the experience. Yeah, and I like 370 00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:04,680 Speaker 1: this topic too, because you do start to look at 371 00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:07,040 Speaker 1: it in these very different ways, the cultural aspect way 372 00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:09,480 Speaker 1: the body and just what it can do in game 373 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:11,680 Speaker 1: for itself and how nature can game you as well. 374 00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:15,119 Speaker 1: And then of course the psychological element to it um 375 00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:17,280 Speaker 1: where you see it with kids in autism and so 376 00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:19,600 Speaker 1: on and so forth. Yeah, now we'd be remiss if 377 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:23,399 Speaker 1: we did not mention um some of the dirt aficionados 378 00:20:23,400 --> 00:20:27,680 Speaker 1: out there, is, particularly in the wine tasting world, that's right. Yes, 379 00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:29,480 Speaker 1: Now this is a French term, and your French is 380 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:33,400 Speaker 1: better than than mine. It is. Actually, I always think 381 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:35,679 Speaker 1: I'm not sure if I know that the t E 382 00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:39,480 Speaker 1: R R O I R, which of course means earth. Yeah, 383 00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:41,680 Speaker 1: and this is the idea that someone who really knows 384 00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:44,600 Speaker 1: their wine, they get a sense of the earth in 385 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:47,240 Speaker 1: which the grapes were grown. So it's kind of that 386 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:51,440 Speaker 1: Dracula thing. Again, this the earth that the grapes came 387 00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:54,399 Speaker 1: from that were transformed into this this elegant wine. And 388 00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:56,679 Speaker 1: there's a sense of that and and certainly, I mean 389 00:20:56,840 --> 00:21:01,160 Speaker 1: it makes sense to a large point because the the 390 00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:05,240 Speaker 1: actual components of earth vary from one from one location 391 00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:08,240 Speaker 1: to the next. Anyone who's ever engaged in some serious 392 00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:10,679 Speaker 1: planting of trees, like we're my wife and I are 393 00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:14,240 Speaker 1: currently having a few fruit trees put in our backyard. 394 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:18,439 Speaker 1: Um did a trade with somebody and uh, and when 395 00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:20,280 Speaker 1: you know, we're learning that, you know, there are certain 396 00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:23,959 Speaker 1: trees that grow in Georgian soil. And then you have 397 00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:27,119 Speaker 1: to also think about you know, city levels and whatnot. 398 00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:28,679 Speaker 1: I mean, there's a lot that goes into dirt. Not 399 00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:31,399 Speaker 1: all dirt is just dirt. There are many different types. 400 00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:36,840 Speaker 1: So so it makes sense. I've also heard merroir mentioned 401 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:39,720 Speaker 1: and this is uh the idea that the ocean uh 402 00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:42,600 Speaker 1: the body of water from which of saltwater from which 403 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:46,320 Speaker 1: something is uh is harvested um seafood, that that also 404 00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:49,520 Speaker 1: plays into its taste, and that it's the it's part 405 00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:52,600 Speaker 1: of the reason that people are so into different sea 406 00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:54,919 Speaker 1: salts that you have, you don't just have you can 407 00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:56,119 Speaker 1: you know, you can go to the grocery store and 408 00:21:56,280 --> 00:21:58,119 Speaker 1: you can buy just straight up sea salt, but you 409 00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:00,480 Speaker 1: can also buy a wide variety of sea salts from 410 00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:03,520 Speaker 1: various parts of the world. The idea being that the 411 00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:07,000 Speaker 1: salt the of of that ocean, of that particular corner 412 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:11,320 Speaker 1: of the ocean, has a distinctive impact on taste. So 413 00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:13,399 Speaker 1: the next time you're at a dinner party, I dare you, 414 00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:16,560 Speaker 1: as you are quaffing your wine to say that the 415 00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:20,320 Speaker 1: you think the soil came from a low acidity grape 416 00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:25,160 Speaker 1: grown under the tendrils of the sun, you can say 417 00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:28,320 Speaker 1: tendrils of the sun. Tendrils of the sun. Yeah, and uh, 418 00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:33,000 Speaker 1: perhaps even note that the meat was salted with something 419 00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:37,520 Speaker 1: from the Pacific Northwest when the winds of the Pacific Northwest. 420 00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:41,479 Speaker 1: I like it, you do, all right? All right? Well, 421 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:43,040 Speaker 1: you know we're kind of pressed for time today, so 422 00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:46,040 Speaker 1: I'm gonna skip calling the robot over here with its uh, 423 00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:48,080 Speaker 1: with its listener mail. We will get back to that, 424 00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:50,200 Speaker 1: because I know we have a lot of disgusting snail mail, 425 00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:52,800 Speaker 1: like not not snail mail in the terms that it 426 00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:55,880 Speaker 1: came in um through the post office, but rather snail mail, 427 00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:59,400 Speaker 1: and then it's about slugs and snails and gastropods being disgusting. Uh. 428 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:01,320 Speaker 1: And I know you want to hear me read it 429 00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:03,919 Speaker 1: and and gag, So we will get to that. I 430 00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:06,560 Speaker 1: will real quick mention to address a couple of things 431 00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:09,639 Speaker 1: that my wife, who is a who's a regular listener, 432 00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:12,639 Speaker 1: brought up. Uh. First of all, in a previous episode, 433 00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:16,120 Speaker 1: I may have sometimes I make these obviously I'm really 434 00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:18,480 Speaker 1: into certain TV shows. In this episode, I made a 435 00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:21,600 Speaker 1: thirty Rock reference earlier, and I at least explained it. 436 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:24,560 Speaker 1: In a previous episode, I used the term reagan Ing, 437 00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:27,399 Speaker 1: and I just think I did need to remind everyone 438 00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:29,440 Speaker 1: that that that I'm not trying. I'm not dragging any 439 00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:32,600 Speaker 1: kind of politics into the the episode. But in a 440 00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:37,280 Speaker 1: particular episode of of thirty rocky conservative character um Jack 441 00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:41,439 Speaker 1: Donneghie us his reagan ing to describe a day in 442 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:44,960 Speaker 1: which everything is going right and he's nailing every task 443 00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:47,480 Speaker 1: before him. So, in case anybody were wondering what in 444 00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:49,200 Speaker 1: the heck I was talking about, I did owe you 445 00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:52,120 Speaker 1: an explanation, and that is the explanation. And then likewise, 446 00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:56,480 Speaker 1: multitasking Uh. A classic example of multitasking that I did 447 00:23:56,520 --> 00:24:01,240 Speaker 1: not bring up is the use of an electric toothbrush. UM. 448 00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:04,520 Speaker 1: I regularly fight this, uh, this particular temptation, and so 449 00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:07,639 Speaker 1: does my wife to grab the electric toothbrush, start using 450 00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:11,400 Speaker 1: it and then do other things like go check email 451 00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:14,880 Speaker 1: or do some other morning task while brushing. And if 452 00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:17,280 Speaker 1: you do that, of course, you end up not really 453 00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:19,520 Speaker 1: brushing all that well, you're just kind of holding the 454 00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:21,960 Speaker 1: brush in your mouth, and it's just kind of a 455 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:24,880 Speaker 1: an in feed procedure, and likewise you're probably not doing 456 00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:26,840 Speaker 1: a great job of the other thing either, so and 457 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:31,560 Speaker 1: you're gonna get cavities exactly. So it's the cautionary tale 458 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:35,040 Speaker 1: for everyone out there. So if you have some insight 459 00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:39,400 Speaker 1: on any of these topics, but particularly uh dirt, the 460 00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:41,720 Speaker 1: consumption of dirt, the tasting of of a of a 461 00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:44,800 Speaker 1: foreign soil in a in the wine, or perhaps you're 462 00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:47,000 Speaker 1: a vampire and you'd like to have your your native 463 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:50,040 Speaker 1: soil shipped in so you may sleep in it. Everything's 464 00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:52,960 Speaker 1: open for conversations, so let us know. You can find 465 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:55,840 Speaker 1: us on Facebook, you can find us on tumblo. 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