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Speaker 1: Hey guys, we are back normally the show What Normalist

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Speaker 1: Takes for when the news gets weird. I am Mary

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Speaker 1: Catherine hamp and.

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Speaker 2: I am Karl Marcowitz. How are you, Mary, Katherine.

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Speaker 1: I'm all right, you know, just getting into the week.

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Speaker 2: Okay, you know, my fifteen year old says, I guess

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Speaker 2: this must be a thing. But she says, you know,

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Speaker 2: existing in the context.

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Speaker 1: I like that.

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Speaker 2: I think I think this might be what the kids say. Now,

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Speaker 2: so I'm going to steal it.

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Speaker 1: I like to pretend I'm a kid sometimes same same.

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Speaker 1: All right, Well, we have some sad news to start

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Speaker 1: off the week with from my home state of North Carolina.

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Speaker 1: In the city of Charlotte, a young woman, a Ukrainian refugee,

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Speaker 1: Arena Zutska Zutzka, in her twenties, was stabbed in late

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Speaker 1: August to death on a light rail train in the

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Speaker 1: city of Charlotte. A surveillance video of this from the

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Speaker 1: official light rail system was of an released. I have

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Speaker 1: seen the censored version. Beware out there of that video.

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Speaker 1: It is graphic and even if you see the censored version,

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Speaker 1: it's graphic and scary. She was stabbed unprovoked by a

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Speaker 1: man named de Carlos Brown sitting behind her on the train,

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Speaker 1: who out of nowhere decides to do this. I have

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Speaker 1: read up on him. He apparently has a schizophrenia diagnosis

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Speaker 1: of a rap sheet of fourteen arrests, many of them violent,

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Speaker 1: any treatment. And this went viral. The video went viral

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Speaker 1: about a week and a half after the murder.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And you know, the thing is that the story

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Speaker 2: of this horrible incident, this horrible murder, is quickly becoming

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Speaker 2: why are Republican's pouncing on this?

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Speaker 1: And I don't find that.

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Speaker 2: I mean, look, apart from the usual, it's obnoxious that

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Speaker 2: or seizing or you know, grabbing the issue or whatever.

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Speaker 2: But like the idea of like, why do you care

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Speaker 2: about this crime where a man at random butcher's a

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Speaker 2: woman to death on public transportation, It's because we could

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Speaker 2: that could be any one of us, And that sense,

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Speaker 2: that's why we're much more concerned about this than we

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Speaker 2: are about gang crime in Chicago, which we're also concerned about,

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Speaker 2: I'm not in a gang so I don't think I'm

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Speaker 2: going to get mixed up in the gang crime, although

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Speaker 2: innocent people do sometimes get mixed up. But to be

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Speaker 2: she's doing exactly what I would be doing, what you

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Speaker 2: us to her and I don't understand this insane idea

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Speaker 1: Well, Axios just to characterize this kind of coverage really

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Speaker 1: really went to the mats today with stabbing video fuels

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Speaker 1: maga's crime message. Many people, including this report but also

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Speaker 1: politicians in North Carolina are reacting as if, once again

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Speaker 1: the video is the problem. Yeah, I am begging Democrat

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Speaker 1: mayors to get angry or angrier about murders than they

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Speaker 1: Axios piece, the lead is MAGA influencers are drawing repeated

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Speaker 1: crime and accuse mainstream media of undercovering shocking cases. Shocking

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Speaker 1: video the fatal August twenty second knife attack on twenty

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Speaker 1: three year old Arena Zarutska on a light rail car

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Speaker 1: in Charlotte, North Carolina dominated weekend conversation on Trump friendly

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Speaker 2: So the next line of that piece is the big picture.

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Speaker 2: The rising number of surveillance cameras in public spaces, including

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Speaker 2: Like that's what's actually causing all the commotion and hoopla

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Speaker 1: Well, and they just missed the point so egregiously. Vy Lyles,

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Speaker 1: Annunciation shooting, where lefties immediately go ye to defending the

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Speaker 1: identity of the person who just murdered people exactly and

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Speaker 1: It is so warped to me that this would be

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Speaker 2: And it really did make me think, and I know

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Speaker 2: a lot of people's minds went there as well, about

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Speaker 2: how lucky the people on the New York City subway

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Speaker 2: We all wish for Daniel Penny. There was another man

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Speaker 2: Maybe it all happened too fast, We can't possibly know,

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Speaker 2: but we all wish for more annual pennies, Like let's

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Speaker 1: Well, and that's why I will never be a woman

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Speaker 2: Diosphere, right, of course, no.

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Speaker 1: Mention of the knife that this man has. And I

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the only thing it highlights is the utter hypocrisy

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Speaker 1: I looked up some unc School of Government, Crime Justice

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Speaker 1: Innovation Lab studies and found that Indeed, Mecklenburg, which is

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Speaker 1: they were associated with lower use of secured bonds, which

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Speaker 1: the view that only MAGA cares about a woman being

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Speaker 2: That's a very good way to put it. A lot

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Speaker 2: Because you know what actually happened, there's no question.

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Speaker 1: And despite the despite the mayor's statement that you know,

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Speaker 1: sure problem, because the man had been arrested fourteen times,

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Speaker 2: I just the governor of North Carolina tweeted this morning,

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Speaker 2: He tweeted, I'm heartbroken for the family of Dna Zurutska

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Speaker 2: and now appalled by the footage of the murder. Okay, great,

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Speaker 2: we need more cops on the beat to keep people safe.

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Speaker 2: That's why my budget calls from more funding to hire

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Speaker 2: And everybody points out the police already did their part

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Speaker 2: They arrested him fourteen times. The police work done. Check

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Speaker 2: it's the next guess the keeping from him in jail.

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Speaker 1: Guess what job the current governor had during the time

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Speaker 1: this man was arrested fourteen times. He was attorney general.

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Speaker 1: He was Attorney General and the former governor of North Carolina.

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Speaker 1: Roy Cooper, the Democrat who is running for Senate for

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Speaker 1: Roy Cooper was governor of North Carolina from twenty eighteen

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Speaker 2: Now, we'll be right back to talk about the socialist

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Speaker 1: Our guy, Mom, Donnie, he's back at it. He's doing

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Speaker 5: You've been running on the platform of affordability, of fixes

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Speaker 4: Well, the first thing I have to say is I

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Speaker 2: It's just such coore, solid nonsense. You know, I didn't

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Speaker 1: I also just love the entitled nature of all like

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Speaker 1: two quick polls before we're out of here, Carol. Number

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Speaker 2: Republicans hold the whole country together, let's do it.

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Speaker 2: So man, yeah, it's not good. It's not good. I

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Speaker 2: We're actually capitalist. So I think people need to hear

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Speaker 1: I do think capitalism vanquished socialism, at least in the

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Speaker 1: that's not a Neto idea. It requires the murdering systematically

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Speaker 1: It belongs to all of us. There's just a lot

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Speaker 2: The other whole number is how important it is to

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Speaker 1: Bottom of their list of things that define success.

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Speaker 2: Young men who voted for Trump thirty four percent. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: that's a lot better. And that's that's at the top

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Speaker 2: I hope that they put that at the top of

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Speaker 2: by far. I think that the rest of it is important,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, hands down, best thing I've ever done. So like

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Speaker 1: And I think it's like, you know, we communicated that

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Speaker 1: of course the less reaction to this is going to

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Speaker 1: these men wanting to have children, right, but.

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Speaker 2: Of course it's our fault that they don't have children.

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Speaker 2: We've trigged them, the greatest trick we've ever pulled.

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Speaker 1: We tricked them. Yeah, this is going to cause some

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Speaker 1: dating problems in that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the thing. That's why I think Republicans need

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Speaker 2: to focus more on women. But whenever I say that

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Speaker 2: on X all these people are like, forget those women

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Speaker 2: who care as well men marrying.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you gotta, you know, match them somebody with a

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Speaker 2: Sons, Like I worry about who my sons will married, right,

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