WEBVTT - Bengals Booth Podcast: Whatever It Takes 0:00:03.720 --> 0:00:06.320 Hi and everybody on Dan Horde and thanks for downloading 0:00:06.360 --> 0:00:13.080 the Bengals Boots podcast. The I do whatever it takes. Addition, 0:00:13.480 --> 0:00:17.000 as the Bengals begin practicing in California for Sunday's Super 0:00:17.000 --> 0:00:20.439 Bowl matchup against the Rams. Coming up, I'll talk to 0:00:20.520 --> 0:00:23.480 Chris Collinsworth. He'll call the game with Al Michaels on 0:00:23.680 --> 0:00:27.640 NBC and shares his thoughts on Joe Burrow, Jamar Chase 0:00:28.000 --> 0:00:32.040 and the biggest keys to Sunday's game. Then I'll be 0:00:32.159 --> 0:00:34.960 joined by my broadcast partner, Dave Lapham to discuss a 0:00:35.040 --> 0:00:39.239 variety of topics, including one of the biggest challenges on Sunday, 0:00:39.640 --> 0:00:43.839 trying to block Aaron Donald. 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I called a UC basketball game 0:01:24.319 --> 0:01:26.959 on Wednesday night in Tampa and the team got a 0:01:27.000 --> 0:01:30.480 police escort from the hotel to the arena before the game. 0:01:31.000 --> 0:01:34.440 The rush hour traffic was brutal, but the team bus 0:01:34.520 --> 0:01:37.760 was able to swerve and slalom down the interstate like 0:01:37.800 --> 0:01:40.880 a Formula One race car. In fact, when we got 0:01:40.880 --> 0:01:43.640 to the arena, one member of the traveling party said 0:01:44.080 --> 0:01:48.400 he needed dramamine for motion sickness. It's easy to get 0:01:48.400 --> 0:01:51.520 spoiled when you travel with a professional or major college 0:01:51.520 --> 0:01:54.720 sports team, and the police escort is one of the 0:01:54.840 --> 0:01:59.200 nicest perks. Now, let's get to my guests, beginning with 0:01:59.240 --> 0:02:03.520 the premier TV analyst in the NFL, has evidenced by 0:02:03.560 --> 0:02:08.040 his sixteen Sports Emmy Awards. He played in both of 0:02:08.080 --> 0:02:10.280 the Bengals previous Super Bowls, and he'll be on the 0:02:10.320 --> 0:02:13.800 broadcast team this Sunday for NBC. It is great to 0:02:13.919 --> 0:02:17.320 visit with Chris Collinsworth. Chris, you are fond of calling 0:02:17.400 --> 0:02:21.120 Joe Burrow that cigar smoking son of a gun. What 0:02:21.200 --> 0:02:23.240 are some of the things you like most about the 0:02:23.280 --> 0:02:27.360 Bengals quarterback. I wish I were as cool as he is, 0:02:28.000 --> 0:02:30.000 you know, don't you. I Mean, every once in a 0:02:30.080 --> 0:02:33.840 while you meet somebody and you go, I've been living 0:02:33.919 --> 0:02:38.360 for sixty three years. That kids twinever twenty five years old, 0:02:38.480 --> 0:02:41.800 and he is a hundred times cooler. But I am like, 0:02:41.960 --> 0:02:46.040 how do you get that way after twenty five years 0:02:46.080 --> 0:02:49.720 of your life? You know? And the first time I 0:02:49.760 --> 0:02:52.440 saw him wearing some of those outfits and the rose 0:02:52.520 --> 0:02:56.160 colored glasses and all, and now I'm like, I want 0:02:56.160 --> 0:02:58.760 to go buy a pair of If he wins this game, 0:02:58.880 --> 0:03:01.920 I'm taking off my by NBC blazer and I'm going 0:03:01.960 --> 0:03:04.840 to go down and grab that jacket and wear it 0:03:04.919 --> 0:03:07.480 off the air and say see you guys next season. 0:03:08.280 --> 0:03:12.000 He's special, right, he is? And I think that I'm 0:03:12.080 --> 0:03:15.760 trying to make a comparison and maybe Pete Rose, you know, 0:03:15.919 --> 0:03:21.080 some home browne talent that comes in here and is 0:03:21.120 --> 0:03:28.160 the superstar of the favorite franchise, And there just isn't 0:03:28.200 --> 0:03:31.320 a comparison that I can And it's hard to describe 0:03:31.440 --> 0:03:34.760 what he means to Cincinnati. But I don't know that 0:03:34.840 --> 0:03:39.360 there's been a football player on the Cincinnati Bengals team 0:03:39.400 --> 0:03:42.960 in its history maybe Greg Cook. I wasn't around for that, 0:03:43.600 --> 0:03:47.160 but in its history that would mean more than what 0:03:47.360 --> 0:03:50.960 Joe Burrow means to this community. When did you start 0:03:51.000 --> 0:03:54.440 to think this team could compete with the elite teams 0:03:54.480 --> 0:03:58.280 in the NFL. Yeah, right after Evan McPherson made that 0:03:58.400 --> 0:04:02.760 kick against Kansas Fitting. You know, I think that all 0:04:02.760 --> 0:04:09.000 along there was is this really happening thing, right And 0:04:09.320 --> 0:04:12.600 when they played the Chiefs. I think the first time 0:04:12.720 --> 0:04:17.440 I really felt that was when they beat Baltimore in Baltimore. 0:04:17.480 --> 0:04:21.320 You know that I went, hey, hey, this is this 0:04:21.400 --> 0:04:24.680 is a little different, because that is a team that 0:04:24.800 --> 0:04:28.200 could torment the Bengals. I know the Bengals involved also 0:04:28.240 --> 0:04:32.720 tormented them some in the past, but I think some 0:04:32.800 --> 0:04:36.240 of those plays that Chase made, the catch and run 0:04:36.320 --> 0:04:40.120 plays when they were down fourteen to nothing and looked 0:04:40.120 --> 0:04:43.159 like they could be out of games against Kansas City 0:04:43.279 --> 0:04:46.480 and against Baltimore, that slant that he caught and broke 0:04:46.600 --> 0:04:49.520 three tackles and spun out of there, and I was like, 0:04:50.080 --> 0:04:53.839 and these guys are just different. They're good. And I 0:04:53.920 --> 0:04:56.960 thought te Higgins stepping up in the in the championship 0:04:57.000 --> 0:05:00.120 game when they really kind of took away Jamar and 0:05:00.560 --> 0:05:02.719 really one of my favorite players on this team is 0:05:02.720 --> 0:05:06.159 Tyler Boyd. I think Tyler Boyd is a street fighter 0:05:06.400 --> 0:05:11.320 from some other lifetime somewhere that just always has a 0:05:11.400 --> 0:05:14.520 knack for the biggest moments and those big third downs 0:05:14.560 --> 0:05:17.719 when it's third and four and everybody in the building 0:05:17.760 --> 0:05:19.600 knows where the ball is going to go, and yet 0:05:19.640 --> 0:05:23.280 he still makes that play and converts it. There's just 0:05:23.320 --> 0:05:26.599 a lot to really like about this football team. Taking 0:05:26.680 --> 0:05:30.760 Chase instead of pinas Sewell was obviously somewhat controversial at 0:05:30.800 --> 0:05:34.120 the time. Did we learn something from the success the 0:05:34.160 --> 0:05:38.480 Bengals have had in that pick? I do think that's true. 0:05:38.800 --> 0:05:42.320 And as you look around, the game of football is evolving, 0:05:42.520 --> 0:05:46.040 and you know that it's what is it now? Well, 0:05:46.160 --> 0:05:49.839 right now, offensive linemen are allowed to legally hold like 0:05:49.920 --> 0:05:52.360 you would have been arrested. Anthony Munos would have been 0:05:52.440 --> 0:05:55.760 arrested when I played if he wrapped both arms around 0:05:55.760 --> 0:05:59.240 the shoulder pad. So these guys and yet it's okay now, 0:05:59.320 --> 0:06:02.400 And I think that's a decent rule because what's the 0:06:02.440 --> 0:06:04.960 most important thing in the world. I gotta let's protect 0:06:04.960 --> 0:06:08.360 these quarterbacks because football is not nearly as much fun 0:06:08.440 --> 0:06:10.320 when those guys are out of the game at the 0:06:10.400 --> 0:06:12.400 end of the year and all that sort of stuff. 0:06:12.960 --> 0:06:15.080 So but if you're going to do it that way, 0:06:15.240 --> 0:06:19.520 then those receivers are you know, you've got to have 0:06:19.600 --> 0:06:21.760 those next, and then you have to have people that 0:06:21.800 --> 0:06:26.160 can block for him and pass Russian. But I think 0:06:26.200 --> 0:06:31.080 the three of these receivers are so complimentary. You know, 0:06:31.160 --> 0:06:35.479 the big body outside with te Higgins, the shiftiness of 0:06:35.960 --> 0:06:38.760 Tyler Boyd inside and the clutch play. And then this 0:06:39.040 --> 0:06:42.440 is the greatness of Jamar Chase. And I'm hoping that 0:06:42.560 --> 0:06:44.960 c j Uzama can play in this game because so 0:06:45.040 --> 0:06:47.880 many times that he baked those sort of breakout plays 0:06:48.600 --> 0:06:51.760 during the course of the season. So yeah, I'm very exciting. 0:06:52.279 --> 0:06:54.960 But maybe the thing I'm most excited about is the 0:06:55.000 --> 0:06:58.240 way this defense seems to be coming together too. I Mean, 0:06:58.279 --> 0:07:01.240 these guys came. They were basically kicked out of a 0:07:01.240 --> 0:07:04.280 lot of different places, right, I mean they were they 0:07:04.279 --> 0:07:07.560 were unwanted where they were, or at least unwanted at 0:07:07.560 --> 0:07:10.760 the price that they the Bengals were willing to pay. 0:07:11.360 --> 0:07:13.560 And to see the second half that they put together 0:07:13.600 --> 0:07:16.760 against the Chiefs pretty remarkable. Chris, you became the first 0:07:16.760 --> 0:07:19.960 person to ever use Anthony Munos and arrested in the 0:07:20.000 --> 0:07:22.559 same sentence. By the way, I should just just point 0:07:22.600 --> 0:07:25.960 that out. So let's talk about the current Bengals offensive 0:07:26.000 --> 0:07:29.400 line trying to block Aaron Donald, Von Miller, etc. Is 0:07:29.480 --> 0:07:32.880 that the key matchup of this Super Bowl? Yeah, no 0:07:33.000 --> 0:07:36.840 question about it, it really is. And um, you know, 0:07:36.880 --> 0:07:43.240 we've seen other defenses have weak spots on them, and 0:07:43.760 --> 0:07:46.840 when you get that, you're gonna see Aaron Donald over 0:07:46.960 --> 0:07:50.559 you a lot. Um. And so I think that Aaron 0:07:50.600 --> 0:07:53.120 Donald one of two things. I mean, they love that 0:07:53.240 --> 0:07:57.840 overload rush. They're gonna put Greg Gaines and Von Miller 0:07:57.880 --> 0:08:01.080 and Aaron Donald all on the same side, which is 0:08:01.120 --> 0:08:05.760 going to force you to block Aaron Donald one on one. 0:08:06.160 --> 0:08:09.600 It's going to be literally impossible to bring that far 0:08:09.760 --> 0:08:13.800 side guard across to help because if you do, then 0:08:13.840 --> 0:08:15.800 you still have to deal with Leonard Floyd or a 0:08:15.840 --> 0:08:19.720 blitzing Troy Reader coming down that line. So it's a 0:08:19.840 --> 0:08:23.680 very difficult thing. You'll see them lined up extremely why 0:08:23.880 --> 0:08:27.880 bond Miller maybe five yards outside the tackle, Aaron Donald 0:08:27.920 --> 0:08:31.560 maybe a yard outside the tackle, and Greg Gaines in 0:08:31.560 --> 0:08:33.920 there on the center to keep the center from going 0:08:33.920 --> 0:08:37.280 out and helping, And then here comes Aaron Donald with 0:08:37.440 --> 0:08:40.560 about a five yard running start at either Quentin Spain 0:08:40.760 --> 0:08:45.760 or Achemandenagy or Jackson Carmen or whoever it may be 0:08:46.000 --> 0:08:50.280 inside and von Miller the same on your tackle. And 0:08:50.400 --> 0:08:54.880 so Joe Burrow has to either get it out or 0:08:54.920 --> 0:08:57.400 rely on those angels that seem to tell him when 0:08:57.960 --> 0:09:01.400 danger's coming in some ways, try and make another one 0:09:01.400 --> 0:09:05.040 of those magical escapes other side of the ball. What 0:09:05.120 --> 0:09:07.000 are some key things the Bengals have to do to 0:09:07.000 --> 0:09:10.360 slow down Stafford and company. I've got to tell you, 0:09:10.520 --> 0:09:16.240 I really enjoyed watching this secondary play. You know, chitabey 0:09:16.280 --> 0:09:19.400 Auge was supposed to be the answer when in Dallas 0:09:19.400 --> 0:09:22.680 when he was drafted. Eli Apple was supposed to be 0:09:22.720 --> 0:09:25.960 the answer. In New York. Mike Hilton made plays forever 0:09:27.080 --> 0:09:31.040 with the Pittsburgh Steelers, Von Bell with the Saints. And 0:09:31.120 --> 0:09:34.000 yet somehow, when they put this whole thing together with 0:09:34.080 --> 0:09:38.520 the homegrown Jesse Bates, the hole has been better than 0:09:38.559 --> 0:09:41.560 the sum of the parts, you know, or better than 0:09:41.600 --> 0:09:44.840 the parts, I should say. And and that's fun to 0:09:44.920 --> 0:09:49.080 see in football because it does happen. Trey Hendrickson with 0:09:49.280 --> 0:09:52.400 New Orleans basically as a phenomenal year. It always the 0:09:52.440 --> 0:09:55.960 a thirteen sacks something like that down there, you know, 0:09:56.040 --> 0:10:00.080 we really we're okay. If you leave, we're okay. And 0:10:00.080 --> 0:10:03.000 and he's wearing that. Sam Hubbard out of Mueller High 0:10:03.000 --> 0:10:06.640 School comes into this thing. Logan Wilson, the green dot, 0:10:06.720 --> 0:10:09.440 the guy who's running the show. And you think of 0:10:09.600 --> 0:10:12.840 all these teams, and every game has come down to 0:10:13.520 --> 0:10:16.680 an interception to turn the tide, you know, every single 0:10:16.720 --> 0:10:19.600 one of them. Logan whistling off the tip ball by 0:10:19.640 --> 0:10:22.280 Eli Apple. You know, in the last game, you've got 0:10:22.360 --> 0:10:27.440 Jesse Bates and Von Bell with that one, just every 0:10:27.559 --> 0:10:29.520 single one of these, and then the one before that, 0:10:29.559 --> 0:10:31.800 of course, Jermaine Pratt with the interception on the goal 0:10:31.800 --> 0:10:37.960 line against the Raiders. And it's been a defensive phenomenal 0:10:38.080 --> 0:10:43.600 play that has turned the tide. And it's unexpected, you know. 0:10:43.640 --> 0:10:47.120 I think that's the unexpected part of what Lowe has 0:10:47.160 --> 0:10:49.920 been able to do with this defense is they've just 0:10:50.280 --> 0:10:54.280 galvanized together and made it work. The city has gone 0:10:54.280 --> 0:10:56.720 crazy for this team, as you might expect for a 0:10:56.720 --> 0:10:58.800 team going to the Super Bowl. Does it bring back 0:10:58.880 --> 0:11:01.760 memories of the Super Bowl trips in the eighties. Oh 0:11:01.840 --> 0:11:05.319 my gosh, you know, probably for me, especially eighty one, 0:11:06.320 --> 0:11:09.520 because I was their age. I was younger than Joe 0:11:09.600 --> 0:11:13.280 Burrow and Jamaar Chase. I was twenty two and had 0:11:13.360 --> 0:11:16.800 no idea I had. I think the most number of 0:11:16.800 --> 0:11:19.400 football games I'd ever played my life in one season 0:11:19.520 --> 0:11:24.120 was twelve, and I played twenty four that year. But 0:11:24.240 --> 0:11:27.160 it seemed so easy, you know, we got we were 0:11:27.160 --> 0:11:30.360 the number one seed. We were we had to win 0:11:30.440 --> 0:11:34.760 two home playoff games, one of them in the coldest 0:11:34.760 --> 0:11:38.680 temperature I've ever been experienced in my entire life. But 0:11:38.800 --> 0:11:40.760 we were in the Super Bowl. We won two home games, 0:11:40.760 --> 0:11:44.600 and we're in the Super Bowl. Whereas this team is different. 0:11:44.640 --> 0:11:47.080 You know, both the Super Bowl teams that I was on, 0:11:47.120 --> 0:11:49.920 an eighty one and eighty eight, were both number one seeds. 0:11:50.440 --> 0:11:52.800 This was a number four seed. This was a team 0:11:53.240 --> 0:11:55.439 that had to beat the Raiders to win their first 0:11:55.440 --> 0:11:57.920 playoff game in thirty one years. They had to go 0:11:58.040 --> 0:12:00.560 to the home of the number one seed Tennessee Titans 0:12:00.559 --> 0:12:03.000 and knocked them all, and to go to the home 0:12:03.080 --> 0:12:06.679 of the Kansas City Chiefs, the presumptive Super Bowl favorite. 0:12:07.080 --> 0:12:10.640 Going into this whole thing despite their seed and now 0:12:10.640 --> 0:12:12.280 they've got to go to the home of the La 0:12:12.400 --> 0:12:15.240 Rams and try and do it one more time. And 0:12:15.440 --> 0:12:19.280 every part of you wants to say that's asking too much. 0:12:19.320 --> 0:12:23.120 I don't know, but you look at these guys and 0:12:23.320 --> 0:12:27.080 Joe Burrow and he's gonna go why not. Why isn't 0:12:27.080 --> 0:12:29.400 it gonna have? You know? And so why not? I 0:12:29.440 --> 0:12:32.840 don't know, Maybe it will. You obviously have to be neutral. 0:12:33.000 --> 0:12:36.520 I'm the telecast. That's understood. But have you thought about 0:12:36.559 --> 0:12:39.360 what it would mean to see Mike Brown next to 0:12:39.480 --> 0:12:44.000 Roger Goodell holding the Lombardi Trophy. It was bizarre enough 0:12:44.040 --> 0:12:46.960 for me to watch him in the championship game, and 0:12:47.120 --> 0:12:49.840 he did a great job with the speech, always gracious 0:12:50.480 --> 0:12:53.680 as always, but for me it would be really special. 0:12:53.720 --> 0:12:57.240 I mean, Mike Brown. I signed a contract with the 0:12:57.360 --> 0:13:03.160 USFL and that didn't go so well. The league was 0:13:03.200 --> 0:13:05.040 sort of falling apart by the time I left, and 0:13:05.160 --> 0:13:08.240 he welcomed me back with open arms and eighty eight. 0:13:08.280 --> 0:13:11.840 Mike Brown allowed me to at the end of my career, 0:13:11.960 --> 0:13:14.960 clearly at the end of my career, allowed me to 0:13:15.200 --> 0:13:18.600 go to law school classes instead of meetings, which was 0:13:18.920 --> 0:13:22.640 unheard of. I'm guessing still nobody's ever been allowed to 0:13:22.679 --> 0:13:25.000 do that. And then I go down to practice the 0:13:25.040 --> 0:13:28.040 other day, could not be more gracious and his whole family, 0:13:28.160 --> 0:13:32.760 and I'm thrilled for them, regardless of what the outcome 0:13:32.800 --> 0:13:35.800 of this game is, I really am. But I'm mostly 0:13:35.840 --> 0:13:40.760 thrilled for Cincinnati, you know, to get that galvanizing force 0:13:41.000 --> 0:13:44.320 going one more time again in this city. And now, yes, 0:13:44.440 --> 0:13:48.080 everything politically is nuts these days, but for at least 0:13:48.080 --> 0:13:51.160 a little while, we get a chance to come together 0:13:51.320 --> 0:13:54.760 behind the Cincinnati Bengals, and it's really a special time 0:13:54.800 --> 0:13:57.680 to be here. Nothing galvanize is a city like a 0:13:57.720 --> 0:14:01.760 contending NFL team. Chris, I really appreciate your time. Have 0:14:01.840 --> 0:14:04.880 a great call on Super Bowl Sunday, and we look 0:14:04.920 --> 0:14:08.000 forward to hopefully seeing you at a Bengal celebration. Thank 0:14:08.080 --> 0:14:11.160 to you, Dan, good luck. Chris, by the way, has 0:14:11.280 --> 0:14:13.680 never gone back and watched the two Super Bowls he 0:14:13.800 --> 0:14:17.680 played in those losses to the forty nine Ers, still sting. 0:14:18.280 --> 0:14:21.640 The Bengals Booth podcast is presented by Ultimate Bengals, the 0:14:21.680 --> 0:14:25.720 free to play fantasy football game. This year, Ultimate Bengals 0:14:25.720 --> 0:14:28.040 awarded a weekly winner during the course of the season 0:14:28.360 --> 0:14:32.600 with tickets, autograph merchandise and money can't buy experiences all 0:14:32.680 --> 0:14:35.640 up for grabs. Find Ultimate Bengals in the App Store 0:14:35.920 --> 0:14:40.200 and Google Play and buy on Location, the official hospitality 0:14:40.280 --> 0:14:44.920 partner of the NFL. Visit on location exp dot com 0:14:45.200 --> 0:14:48.440 for exclusive access to the biggest events in the NFL, 0:14:48.720 --> 0:14:54.160 including Sunday Super Bowl. Like Chris Collinsworth, Dave Lapham was 0:14:54.200 --> 0:14:57.560 involved in both of the bengals previous Super Bowl appearances, 0:14:57.960 --> 0:15:01.040 as a player in Super Bowl sixty and as a 0:15:01.080 --> 0:15:05.240 broadcaster in Super Bowl twenty three. We discussed Super Bowl 0:15:05.280 --> 0:15:10.280 fifty six on Wednesday. Lap You are a contemporary of 0:15:10.400 --> 0:15:13.440 Joe Namaths. He played against him in his final game 0:15:13.440 --> 0:15:16.720 in a Jets uniform. People have been comparing Joe Burrow 0:15:16.760 --> 0:15:21.440 to Joe Montana, but with Burrows fashion sense and swag 0:15:21.960 --> 0:15:25.960 and effortless cool. I'm wondering if they've been comparing him 0:15:25.960 --> 0:15:28.840 to the wrong jel. What do you think? I think 0:15:28.880 --> 0:15:31.840 that's a that's a very valid point. I mean, he 0:15:31.920 --> 0:15:38.040 does have the fashion sense and Joe Namath people Joe 0:15:38.120 --> 0:15:42.040 namis cockey. No, Joe Namath was a great dude. It 0:15:42.200 --> 0:15:46.720 is a great dude. I mean he's he's incredible, He's 0:15:46.720 --> 0:15:50.000 got an earned confidence obviously because he's so physically gifted 0:15:50.040 --> 0:15:53.560 at and played quarterback at the highest level. So well, 0:15:53.600 --> 0:15:56.840 I mean he just when he guaranteed the win, he 0:15:57.600 --> 0:15:59.800 was confident. He edit an earned confidence about him as 0:15:59.800 --> 0:16:02.480 team makes everybody else that that's Joe Barrow, you know. 0:16:02.880 --> 0:16:04.800 And then yeah, some of the some of the fashion 0:16:04.880 --> 0:16:08.280 statements are pretty impressive. So yeah, he's a blend of Joe's. 0:16:08.600 --> 0:16:11.240 Joe's a bunch of other Jews, isn't he. It's it's 0:16:11.280 --> 0:16:15.320 it's pretty interesting. And the one, the one common denominator 0:16:15.440 --> 0:16:17.840 is man, these guys were all sharp, you know. I 0:16:17.880 --> 0:16:20.840 mean the memory of Joe Burrow to take in all 0:16:20.880 --> 0:16:23.840 the information he takes in during the week from you know, 0:16:23.960 --> 0:16:27.040 Dan Pitcher, Brian Callahan, Zach Taylor, and then all the 0:16:27.080 --> 0:16:29.720 tape he watches, he just stores all that stuff. He 0:16:29.760 --> 0:16:32.480 doesn't really take notes, you know, just stores it and 0:16:32.520 --> 0:16:34.400 then can pull it out, you know, just when he 0:16:34.440 --> 0:16:36.600 needs to to diagnose and to solve the problem with 0:16:36.680 --> 0:16:39.560 defense has given him. It's really astounding. In a quick 0:16:39.640 --> 0:16:42.320 Joe name a story. I know I've shared this with 0:16:42.360 --> 0:16:44.840 you before, Dan, but he came, he came to do 0:16:44.920 --> 0:16:48.160 a game, um and we've gotten to be decent friends. 0:16:48.160 --> 0:16:51.320 I did some NBC NFL work and Joe just for 0:16:51.360 --> 0:16:54.760 some reason, you know, took me around in New York 0:16:54.800 --> 0:16:57.520 and introduced me to some of his fans. Everywhere we went, 0:16:57.720 --> 0:17:00.480 it took like half an hour to walk five because 0:17:00.560 --> 0:17:03.120 Joe nameth, you know, all over the streets. But this 0:17:03.160 --> 0:17:07.720 guy knew everybody's name, everybody's name. He put names with faces, 0:17:07.760 --> 0:17:10.360 you know, and uh, and he just it was amazing. 0:17:10.440 --> 0:17:14.359 So um, I take him. He comes to Cincinnati to 0:17:14.359 --> 0:17:17.879 do a preseason game and I take him around and 0:17:17.920 --> 0:17:19.919 then we get something to eat in the cafeteria. There 0:17:19.920 --> 0:17:22.400 were a sertain food up in the cafeteria and this 0:17:22.480 --> 0:17:25.440 lady named Leslie was the server. And I said, Joe, 0:17:25.520 --> 0:17:27.840 this is Leslie, you know, and she's all God, God 0:17:27.840 --> 0:17:31.400 because it's joe name. He comes back two years later 0:17:31.480 --> 0:17:34.840 for a regular season game. Two years later, we're going 0:17:34.960 --> 0:17:38.320 to get something to eat again. Say gal, Leslie, how 0:17:38.359 --> 0:17:40.080 you've been. I haven't seen you in a while. She 0:17:40.160 --> 0:17:42.520 almost dropped her teeth, so did I. I'm like, we 0:17:42.560 --> 0:17:44.560 sit down and said, Joe, how the heck did you 0:17:44.600 --> 0:17:47.280 remember her name? Because I just have a gift for 0:17:47.320 --> 0:17:49.720 that man. And you know, the memories on some of 0:17:49.760 --> 0:17:54.560 these guys is just unbelievable. Their mind is, their brain 0:17:54.760 --> 0:17:58.679 is just constructed differently. Man. That's a great anecdote. And 0:17:58.720 --> 0:18:01.600 I wonder if that's true with Joe Burrow. I wonder 0:18:01.680 --> 0:18:04.120 if he's one of those people that if he sees you, 0:18:04.280 --> 0:18:06.720 meets you, learns your name, if he could go a 0:18:06.720 --> 0:18:10.040 couple of years without seeing you and remember it, it 0:18:10.040 --> 0:18:12.440 could very well be. It could very well be the case. 0:18:12.520 --> 0:18:15.920 And that's the thing about Joe Namath two and asked 0:18:15.960 --> 0:18:19.080 him about certain games that he played. He could go 0:18:19.160 --> 0:18:22.679 through an entire play by play off every single snap. 0:18:23.040 --> 0:18:25.639 They did this. Yeah, then they thought they'd be cute 0:18:25.640 --> 0:18:28.879 and we you back my head coach said, Joe, what 0:18:28.920 --> 0:18:31.240 are you gonna do? Damas says, well, here's what I'm thinking. 0:18:31.440 --> 0:18:34.160 That's a good idea. Joe wanted to do that unbelievable, 0:18:34.440 --> 0:18:39.159 could remember every single detail of almost every game the 0:18:39.160 --> 0:18:41.920 guy played in it. I mean, that's a gift. Boys, 0:18:42.440 --> 0:18:45.040 that's a tremendous gift that'll serve you well in any 0:18:45.080 --> 0:18:47.520 walk of life you get into. And I bet that's 0:18:47.520 --> 0:18:49.800 true with Joe Burrow. I bet he could go back 0:18:49.840 --> 0:18:53.439 to his junior year at LSU Week five and do 0:18:53.480 --> 0:18:58.120 the play by play. Agreed, Agreed. I mean things just 0:18:58.680 --> 0:19:01.360 they burn into his memory bank. I mean they're just 0:19:01.440 --> 0:19:06.200 they're there. And uh, it's incredible the amount of information 0:19:06.280 --> 0:19:12.640 that that guy can digest and comprehend, digest, and then 0:19:12.760 --> 0:19:18.080 regurgitate when need be. It's unreal total recall. So Rob 0:19:18.119 --> 0:19:20.720 Gronkowski did an interview this week. He got asked the 0:19:20.720 --> 0:19:24.280 following question, now that Tom Brady has retired, who would 0:19:24.320 --> 0:19:27.040 you want to be your quarterback right now? And he 0:19:27.160 --> 0:19:29.520 laughed and he said, I kind of like this young buck. 0:19:30.040 --> 0:19:32.880 Joe Burrow Grock is going to be a free agent 0:19:32.920 --> 0:19:34.560 at the end of this year. I don't see the 0:19:34.600 --> 0:19:38.119 Bengals signing him. But is this the proof of something 0:19:38.160 --> 0:19:41.159 you've been talking about that free agents are going to 0:19:41.200 --> 0:19:43.840 want to flock to Cincinnati because of the Borough factor? 0:19:44.960 --> 0:19:48.040 I think so, Dan, I mean, you know that wasn't 0:19:48.040 --> 0:19:50.840 the case there. There wasn't total free agency. There wasn't 0:19:50.880 --> 0:19:53.920 movement of players like there is now. When Joe Montana, 0:19:54.280 --> 0:19:57.440 you know, particularly when he in the early stages when 0:19:57.440 --> 0:19:59.800 he beat us in Super Bowl sixteen, but you could 0:19:59.800 --> 0:20:02.919 se that he was special and that they were going 0:20:03.000 --> 0:20:05.560 to be really good for a long time. Um plus 0:20:05.560 --> 0:20:07.320 you know San Francisco. Who doesn't want to go to 0:20:07.320 --> 0:20:11.320 San Francisco. But I do think the first there are 0:20:11.320 --> 0:20:14.320 two elements. Number one is money talks. You know it's 0:20:14.320 --> 0:20:17.520 gonna the finance just have to be there. But with 0:20:17.760 --> 0:20:21.159 all all things being equal, there Joe burrow Is is 0:20:21.160 --> 0:20:24.720 about a big, bigger tipebreaker has risen the national football 0:20:24.960 --> 0:20:27.359 He's right there. He's right there with every other you know, 0:20:27.840 --> 0:20:31.240 big time quarterback. Because of his youth. You know, it's 0:20:31.280 --> 0:20:34.120 like if I go there, it's not you know, we're 0:20:34.160 --> 0:20:35.760 just not going to be a contender for next year. 0:20:35.800 --> 0:20:37.800 We're going to be a contender for a while. I 0:20:37.800 --> 0:20:40.880 mean this this kid's just he's just starting his path, man, 0:20:41.280 --> 0:20:43.520 and uh and he's still and he's playing at such 0:20:43.560 --> 0:20:47.520 a high level. So I think I think that there 0:20:47.520 --> 0:20:49.320 are going to be the Bengals are going to be 0:20:49.400 --> 0:20:53.640 on Big Time Free Agent's top five list that two 0:20:53.760 --> 0:20:57.320 years ago it would there wouldn't even be consideration. I 0:20:57.320 --> 0:21:00.240 mean it'd be a they'd be laughing if people said, 0:21:00.280 --> 0:21:04.720 what are the Bengals on your list? No, now they're 0:21:04.800 --> 0:21:08.159 right there, They are right there. And again, you know, 0:21:08.240 --> 0:21:11.679 economics are a big factor. But when you're in the 0:21:11.720 --> 0:21:14.280 place the franchise was in the early stage, is that 0:21:14.359 --> 0:21:18.480 rebuild process. There's not enough money in the entire world, 0:21:18.480 --> 0:21:21.360 probably to entice certain guys to go come to Cincinnati. 0:21:22.160 --> 0:21:24.359 So all of the assistant coaches from the two teams 0:21:24.359 --> 0:21:27.680 that news conferences on Tuesday, including Bengals offensive line coach 0:21:27.760 --> 0:21:30.560 Frank Pollack, and he knew what was coming. Essentially, how 0:21:30.560 --> 0:21:32.959 the heck is your line, which has struggled mightily at 0:21:33.000 --> 0:21:36.760 times going to block Aaron Donald and Von Miller? Is 0:21:36.760 --> 0:21:41.000 the challenge mostly the greatness of the individuals for the 0:21:41.119 --> 0:21:45.520 Rams or is it hard to handle their scheme? You know, Dan, 0:21:45.600 --> 0:21:47.919 I think, like with a lot of great defenses, it 0:21:48.040 --> 0:21:50.679 is a combination, you know, I think I think that 0:21:50.720 --> 0:21:54.000 they've done a great job. Raheem Morris has done a 0:21:54.000 --> 0:21:58.160 great job of taking We've talked about earlier in the week. 0:21:58.440 --> 0:22:02.400 It's the Vic Fangio print Spals. You know, because Staley 0:22:02.520 --> 0:22:04.399 was there before you got the head coaching job with 0:22:04.480 --> 0:22:08.080 the Chargers and they led the league in defense. You know, 0:22:08.520 --> 0:22:10.239 that's why you got the head coaching job. They were 0:22:10.320 --> 0:22:14.840 number one, and so the organization, and the MCVAS said 0:22:14.880 --> 0:22:18.000 the Raheem Morris, look, you know you can. We'd love 0:22:18.000 --> 0:22:19.840 you to be our coordinate, but we want to run 0:22:19.880 --> 0:22:22.880 what we're running here. So I think I think they 0:22:23.040 --> 0:22:27.160 built the personnel and schematic to kind of lay hands. 0:22:27.160 --> 0:22:29.000 Fit's the glove deal, you know. I mean, it's a 0:22:29.359 --> 0:22:32.600 it's one of those sorts of situations. And and they're 0:22:32.720 --> 0:22:37.440 they're they're impressive. I mean, you know, the talent level 0:22:37.520 --> 0:22:41.879 is unquestioned. Von Miller has more sacks than any active 0:22:41.920 --> 0:22:45.480 player in the National Football League. Aaron Donald is maybe 0:22:45.480 --> 0:22:48.480 the best player in the National Football League. Floyd has 0:22:48.480 --> 0:22:50.920 got nine and a half sacks himself. I mean, you 0:22:51.200 --> 0:22:53.720 look at Jalen Ramsey in the back end, but honestly, Dan, 0:22:54.440 --> 0:22:58.520 besides Jalen Ramsey, I think the Bengals match up favorably. 0:22:59.040 --> 0:23:01.719 I think there's mismatches on the back end the Bengals 0:23:01.720 --> 0:23:05.040 could take advantage of if they can somehow find a 0:23:05.080 --> 0:23:09.240 way to give Joe Barrow an opportunity. And I'm maintaining 0:23:09.280 --> 0:23:11.800