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Speaker 2: I am six forty. You're listening to the John Cobel

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Speaker 2: podcast on the iHeartRadio app. If you missed any of

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Speaker 2: the first two hours, I especially tell you do download

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Speaker 2: the podcast and listen. We had many interviews that we

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Speaker 2: played for went to the Palisades this morning. They had

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Speaker 2: this big demonstration they let us burn that was put

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Speaker 2: together by Jeremy Pratt and I'm sorry. Spencer Pratt and

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Speaker 2: announced he's running from mayor. The crowd went wild, so

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Speaker 2: both of them and they organized the rally. Jeremy was

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Speaker 2: smeared by the lyon Karen Bass claiming that he was

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Speaker 2: profiting from putting on the rally. He had to spend

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Speaker 2: forty thousand dollars of his own money. Oh that's what

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Speaker 2: I was going to tell you. You know what the

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Speaker 2: big difference is between the rally they put on today

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Speaker 2: The illegal alien groups never pay for a permit and

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Speaker 2: they're allowed to snarl traffic in the middle of the day.

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Speaker 2: Do you know the Palisades residents Jerry Patawer had to

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Speaker 2: pay three thousand dollars for a permit. American citizens get

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Speaker 2: charged for a permit to protest the government that burn

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Speaker 2: their town down, But the illegal aliens they get to

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Speaker 2: protest for free and snarl our traffic. All right, let's go,

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Speaker 2: Let's go to Royal Oaks. Here are ABC News legal

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Speaker 2: analyst because one of the other stories today, there's a

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Speaker 2: lot going on. Nicker, his defense attorney, withdrew from the

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Speaker 2: case he was in front of a judge today, the

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Speaker 2: killer of Rob and Michelle Reiner, his parents. Alan Jackson

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Speaker 2: is a big time attorney. He's defended celebrities. He's had

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Speaker 2: some major wins that have gotten national attention. But he's

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Speaker 2: bugged out of this case. Royal. How are you?

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Speaker 1: I'm great, but I'm just blown away. John. I don't

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Speaker 1: you know you've been doing this. I remember seeing you

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Speaker 2: No?

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Speaker 1: I didn't, But I mean, if you ever see anything

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Speaker 1: I mean he's like he and Mark Gerrgo, so like

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Speaker 1: the biggest criminal defense guys in the nation. You know,

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Speaker 1: He represented Kevin Spacey and Harvey Weinstein. So it was

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Speaker 1: a big coup for render to get him. And what changed.

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Speaker 1: I mean, if there are two big issues, is you know,

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Speaker 1: pay millions? Or secondly, does Jackson say, hey, we've got

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Speaker 1: to do x insanity or he's incompetent, can't even have

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Speaker 1: you know, if you're a schizophrenic and you're off your meds.

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Speaker 1: And did he disagree with either Nick or the family

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Speaker 1: or both. We don't know, but it's just pretty bizarre

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Speaker 1: for you know, the morning of the arraignment for him

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Speaker 1: And he's under a protective order. John, he can't talk,

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Speaker 1: he can't tell, not that he would really want to

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Speaker 1: out of here, and he is not guilty murder under

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Speaker 1: You can print that. It's just a very bizarre protective order.

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Speaker 2: What did that mean?

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Speaker 1: What that means is the judge said to Alan Jackson, Oh, sorry,

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Speaker 1: we're not going to be seeing you on this case,

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Speaker 1: and don't think about talking to the press about why

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Speaker 1: that he can't give privileged information, can't do anything would

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Speaker 1: the family promised to pay me three point five million

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Speaker 1: The other day, John, the judge sealed the autopsy report,

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Speaker 1: We don't have the details about the horrific attack in

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Speaker 1: you got to get your arms around it. But now

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not going to beat till February twenty third.

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Speaker 1: Now this arraignment, right so, and the arraignment, of course

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Speaker 1: the rule in America is if you don't know what's

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Speaker 1: going on around you in the courtroom and help your lawyer,

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Speaker 1: you can't have a trial. The trial is put on hold.

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Speaker 1: You go to the hospital with bars and you're treated,

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Speaker 1: The problem is if the sykes come back, the shrinks

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Speaker 1: he's okay, he can do a trial. Now this is

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Speaker 2: All right, very good, Royal Oaks, Thank you, you bat,

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Speaker 2: Thanks Royal Oaks. ABC News legal analyst on the Nick

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Speaker 2: Reiner case killed his parents Robin Michelle, and lost his

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Speaker 2: attorney today for serious reasons. And now he's got a

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Speaker 2: deputy public defender named Kimberly Green and the raiments postponed

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Speaker 2: the Pacific Palisades. They let us burn rally and when

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Speaker 2: I want to play you. Jill Smith, she had a

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Speaker 2: sign LADWP, empty reservoir, Empty leadership. That was the sign,

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Speaker 3: You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM

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Speaker 3: six forty.

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Speaker 2: all what you've heard today about the fire in the Palisades.

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Speaker 2: Today's anniversary day. We went there. They had a big

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Speaker 2: had a sign that said LADWP, empty reservoir, Empty leadership.

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Speaker 2: That caught our eye and we talked with Jill. Okay,

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Speaker 2: says la DWP, empty reservoir, empty leadership. What's your name?

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Speaker 4: My name is Jill Smith.

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Speaker 2: Did you lose a home in the Palace? I did,

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Speaker 2: And I guess that is one of probably many issues

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Speaker 4: It is one of many issues. I had no idea

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Speaker 4: that reservoir had been empty for almost three years prior

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Speaker 4: to the fire. Why a reservoir could be allowed to

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Speaker 4: that is absolutely terrible and it's still not fixed. They

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Speaker 4: And that's why I say empty leadership. And I don't

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Speaker 4: understand how the LAPD continues with leadership like that. I mean,

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Speaker 2: They need to you're talking about the La Fire Department.

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Speaker 4: No, l I'm sorry, LA DWP. LA DWP may be

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Speaker 2: Yes, Jenise, Yeah, that's right, Genise, Genise, yes, seven hundred

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Speaker 4: Exactly why why? Why is she still there?

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Speaker 4: Oh never, No, not at all. It's unbelievable.

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Speaker 2: Nobody has really said anything of substance from any level

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Speaker 4: Yes, and I think LA DWP has been scandal plagued

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Speaker 2: What about the overall response to the fire by fire

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Speaker 2: department officials? You know, the busses are really responsible for

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Speaker 4: I totally agree. I don't fault the lay firefighter who

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Speaker 4: was on the beach playing cards, as was recorded yesterday

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Speaker 2: I hadn't heard the playing card story. I do know

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Speaker 2: that a lot of firefighters were ordered to stay at

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Speaker 2: the beach. Yes, is there any indicat sure why they

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Speaker 4: Well, I do know. I watched a documentary called Paradise

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Speaker 4: Abandoned by Rob Monts. You can see it on YouTube. Okay,

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Speaker 4: so he explains that the morning of the fire, a

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Speaker 4: So my question is why would they be doing training

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Speaker 4: maneuvers when there were high wind warnings so they didn't

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Speaker 4: to station sixty nine, And according to that documentary, sixty

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Speaker 4: nine is right near us where we're standing. They only

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Speaker 4: had one engine there. The others were all sent elsewhere

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Speaker 4: around the city. For I don't know why put.

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Speaker 2: At homeless fires.

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Speaker 4: Okay, probably yeah, And then that one engine finally got

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Speaker 5: Well, to put it real, simply, fire department fights fire.

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Speaker 5: Well you had the sheriff who was hiding a luxury

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Speaker 2: You go figure out, you know, hell is coming down.

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Speaker 2: Now I understand why they hated you so much. You

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Speaker 2: Not that the supervisors lose any sleep over that, right.

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Speaker 2: Gavin Newsom being targeted the way Tim Waltz was targeted,

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Speaker 2: and Trump is cutting off ten billion dollars of childcare

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Speaker 2: funding because he suspects there's a lot of childcare fraud

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Speaker 2: going on here. We're going to have a woman on

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Speaker 2: tomorrow Amy Reikert, the Internet journalist, and she has discovered

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Speaker 2: some of these childcare facilities in San Diego that don't

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Speaker 2: have children but are getting our tax money. And there's

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Speaker 2: an even a left wing columnist in the La Times,

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Speaker 2: Anita Chabrio, wrote today that California has lost billions of

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Speaker 2: dollars to cheats in the last few years, and Newsom

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Speaker 2: is as vulnerable to the same attacks that Tim Waltz

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Speaker 2: has been suffering from. So we are going to really

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Speaker 2: get into that because this is something that I have

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Speaker 2: been banging on for years. This place is ten times

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Speaker 2: more corrupt than anything going on in Minnesota with Tim Walls.

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Speaker 2: We are the kings of stolen tax money and fraud,

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Speaker 2: welfare fraud, childcare fraud, unemployment fraud, high speed rail fraud,

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Speaker 2: and above it all, homeless fraud. So Trump is now

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Speaker 2: going to be launching all kinds of investigations and we're

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Speaker 2: going to talk about what's going on here in California.

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Speaker 2: Let's play one more interview from the fire rally this morning.

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Speaker 2: They let us burn our friend David Howard. He's a

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Speaker 2: Cafi iHeart sales manager. He lost his home entirely. He

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Speaker 2: has been very active as a citizen in the Palisades

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Speaker 2: to try to get some help from the local government,

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Speaker 2: and we talked with him. All right, so we're talking

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Speaker 2: to David Howard. We had him on the show a

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Speaker 2: number of times, sales manager in KFI who lost his

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Speaker 2: house entirely and he's been quite the activist. Latest news

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Speaker 2: this morning, David, is that the rewritten Fire Department to

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Speaker 2: report went through seven drafts along the way it was

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Speaker 2: sent to Karen Bass's office. They wanted refinements.

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Speaker 6: You know, it's driving home yesterday listening to your show,

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Speaker 6: and my question was who made that decision to make

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Speaker 6: all those refinements and who approved it? Well, looks like

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Speaker 6: The Only Times might have just given us that answer.

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Speaker 2: Not surprising, And of course they're claiming they had nothing

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Speaker 2: to do with all the revisions.

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Speaker 6: Well you know they had. Seems now they had everything

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Speaker 6: to do with all the revisions, right like it wasn't

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Speaker 6: the as you know, the original author wouldn't sign his

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Speaker 6: name to it because when he got it back it

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Speaker 6: was so redacted and so changed that he said I

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Speaker 6: can't support this, and so would Finally, thank god, thank god,

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Speaker 6: the Only Times is doing the work they're doing because

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Speaker 6: they're making it all happen for us.

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Speaker 2: How would you describe the progress. It's been a year

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Speaker 2: and I'm looking around and there are a few lots

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Speaker 2: getting rebuilt, but vast, vast majority untouched.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I think the biggest impediment and right now, to

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Speaker 6: growth is the insurance companies. There's so many people that

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Speaker 6: don't know. You know, it's not building in safety, is

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Speaker 6: pushing through plans. But you can't push through a plan

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Speaker 6: if you don't know what you're building, if you don't

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Speaker 6: know how much money you have, if you don't know

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Speaker 6: what you're capable of doing. So that's where the problem

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Speaker 6: is right now for the most part. But yeah, there's

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Speaker 6: you know, we're talking about I think four hundred houses

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Speaker 6: currently under construction, maybe a thousand permits. Some of those

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Speaker 6: may be doubled up based on ADUs and so forth,

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Speaker 6: but there's still thousands and thousands of homes that have

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Speaker 6: not been even begun to start to rebuild.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure you talk to like dozens hundreds of people.

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Speaker 2: Is if there was one issue that was the most frustrating,

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Speaker 2: is it insurance?

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Speaker 6: Oh? Boy, that's a good question. It's a couple of things.

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Speaker 6: Number One, it's the fact that the fire even happened

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Speaker 6: there to begin with. As we know, as you've been reporting,

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Speaker 6: the Lockman fire should have been put out, should have

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Speaker 6: been fully extinguished.

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Speaker 2: The milk Fitch plant.

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Speaker 6: The milk Fitch plant, that's the same plant that you

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Speaker 6: look that if you drive off any offer amp in

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Speaker 6: the city. It looks very familiar. That's what it looks like.

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Speaker 1: It's it.

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Speaker 6: And by the way, all those plants that they tried

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Speaker 6: to save, those all burnt, they're all gone, they don't exist.

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Speaker 2: I found that the state reps, the Park Department, reps

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Speaker 2: kicking out the LA Fire Department, and the fire department

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Speaker 2: actually listening and leaving is one of the most outrageous

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Speaker 2: aspects of this story.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's it's really unexplainable, to be honest, and then

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Speaker 6: taking Brussia the already clared to block to protect the plants.

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Speaker 6: It's just it's just it doesn't make any sense at all.

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Speaker 6: So I think to answer your question, what's the most frustrating,

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Speaker 6: Definitely the fact that the polis Ads fire ignited as

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Speaker 6: a result of completing competence of the original burn you know,

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Speaker 6: burn scar and then obviously just fighting insurance companies. It's

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Speaker 6: their story after story after story of so many friends

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Speaker 6: and neighbors and people who just joined like today that

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Speaker 6: just can talk amongst each other and to listen to

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Speaker 6: their stories. It's heartbreaking.

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Speaker 2: Can you believe that every level of government failed every time,

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Speaker 2: that nobody did the right thing even once, and they

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Speaker 2: still not doing it after a year? I find that

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Speaker 2: astounding that it was a complete breakdown and no one

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Speaker 2: wants to accept responsibility.

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Speaker 6: No, you're completely right. Back in the day, and I

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Speaker 6: think we've probably even talked about this before when the

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Speaker 6: Damn Verse in the nineteen thirties under the watch of

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Speaker 6: William Maholland, and when he ran the LEDWP, he was

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Speaker 6: noble enough to say, you know what, under my watch

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Speaker 6: this happened. I can no longer lead this department. Karen

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Speaker 6: Bass needs to do the same thing as the mayor

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Speaker 6: of the city. Janie Cononez needs to do the same

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Speaker 6: thing as ahead of LEDWP. It has just been a

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Speaker 6: lack of every single level, from the state to the

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Speaker 6: city to all of our leadership completely failed us. And

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Speaker 6: you know it's when you're not living it every single day.

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Speaker 6: It becomes back page news, but it's not backpageon news

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Speaker 6: of thousands and thousands of people. And the most important thing, John,

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Speaker 6: is that this never happens again, because it's gonna happen again.

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Speaker 6: It could be Brandwig got forbid, it could be inst

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Speaker 6: it could be Woodland Hills, it could be the Hollywood Hills.

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Speaker 6: But it's gonna happen again. And if people don't, if

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Speaker 6: our leaders don't get it together, we're gonna be talking

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Speaker 6: about this for a long time to come.

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Speaker 2: All Right, thank you, David, all right, thanks John, thanks

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Speaker 2: for being David Howard there, the KFI sales manager. And

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Speaker 2: that's all the time we have. Now you can see

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Speaker 2: all the interviews we did again. We're going to post

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Speaker 2: them all on YouTube in their entirety at YouTube dot

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Speaker 2: YouTube dot com, slash at John Cobelt Show if you

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Speaker 2: want to subscribe and get notifications. Also, we have montages

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Speaker 2: of the interviews at John Coblt Radio. And Spencer Pratt

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Speaker 2: is running for mayor and he announced that today as well.

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Speaker 2: The other big story is what's happening in Minnesota. An

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Speaker 2: ice officer killed a woman. He was standing in front

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Speaker 2: of her car and she started driving forward, and he

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Speaker 2: fired a bullet through the front windshield and killed her.

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Speaker 2: She's an activist protester type and now a white woman

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Speaker 2: because this is Minneapolis and there are large crowds forming

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Speaker 2: in the dark in Minneapolis angry about what happened because

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Speaker 2: there's so many protesters who hate Ice. I'm sure these

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Speaker 2: are nonprofits that are financed by Minnesota taxpayers as well,

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Speaker 2: the same issue we had with anti ICE protesters here,

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Speaker 2: illegal alien nonprofits that get financed by US. I mean,

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Speaker 2: all this stuff has got to come to an end.

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Speaker 2: All this has got to stop. We will be back

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Speaker 2: tomorrow at one o'clock. Hey, you've been listening to the

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Speaker 2: John Cobalt Show podcast. You can always hear the show

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Speaker 2: live on KFI AM six forty from one to four

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