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Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George

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Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.

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Speaker 2: Armstrong and get Katie and he Armstrong and Heady.

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Speaker 3: First of all, the plane crash, a black Hawk helicopter

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Speaker 3: being flown by some of the best pilots on planet

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Speaker 3: Earth crashes into a domestic flight and everybody's dead.

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Speaker 2: Sixty some people.

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Speaker 4: You're probably aware of that, but they have declared no survivors,

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Speaker 4: and it looks like it's just a human error thing

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Speaker 4: which happens down that the worst air disaster actually the

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Speaker 4: first commercial air disaster in two decades.

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, two decades. It's been a very long time.

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Speaker 5: It's amazing. This is how good we are at this.

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Speaker 5: It's a horrific story. Yeah, it's beyond tragic, unthinkable.

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Speaker 4: What are your feelings on the constantly showing the because

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Speaker 4: somebody had their phone out and got a video of

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Speaker 4: when they crash happens.

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Speaker 2: What is that? It's just the way of the world.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm not sure you should be showing that over

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Speaker 4: and over again. Here here's the moment. Sixty some people

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Speaker 4: lost their lives.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, all right, you know, as Don Henley put it

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Speaker 5: years and years ago in his eighties nineties, classic dirty

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Speaker 5: laundry about the news business. It's interesting when people die,

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Speaker 5: give us dirty laundry.

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Speaker 4: He was mostly mad because so many stories were being

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Speaker 4: written about him having an underage girl at.

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Speaker 2: A party at his house. But well it was still right,

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Speaker 2: different topic.

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Speaker 4: They've got some hearings, more hearings going on today to

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Speaker 4: confirm people RFK juniors going to be questioned more, even

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Speaker 4: more about being Secretary of Health and Human Services. You

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Speaker 4: got Tulsi Gabbard, former senator from Hawaii?

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Speaker 2: Is that right?

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Speaker 4: Who wants to be the DNI Director of National Intelligence?

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Speaker 4: That puts you over all of the different intelligence stuff.

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Speaker 4: That's something we created after nine to eleven, another layer.

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Speaker 4: I'm not sure that was the right idea or not.

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Speaker 4: And then he got Cash Ptel, who wants to be

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Speaker 4: the FBI director because Trump's fire and the old guy

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Speaker 4: his tenure term not up, but getting a new guy.

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Speaker 4: And they've all said some interesting things already. Are you

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Speaker 4: willing to say what you just said off the air

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Speaker 4: about Telsey Gabbard? Are you some sort of keyboard warrior

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Speaker 4: who won't stick your neck out and something or other?

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Speaker 2: I don't remember what I say. I said several things.

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Speaker 2: I think she's used a term whack job, uh, crackpot

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Speaker 2: or something like that. Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I think she's got some very odd beliefs. She is

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Speaker 5: adamant that her loyalty should not be questioned. I think

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Speaker 5: it's her judgment more that should be questioned, and what

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Speaker 5: she actually believes and doesn't believe. She has such a

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Speaker 5: history of repeating Bashar all Assade talking points and then

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Speaker 5: Kremlin talking points, and then excusing every everything Edward Snowden

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Speaker 5: did because some of what he did was probably pretty defensible.

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Speaker 2: And there are other things that she has.

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Speaker 5: So she has more baggage than than you know, a

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Speaker 5: princess on a cruise. There's you know, she she talks

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Speaker 5: a great game. How about somebody who doesn't have all

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Speaker 5: sorts of this wacky doodle stuff in her background. That's

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Speaker 5: what I'm asking for, And I am willing to go

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Speaker 5: into detail.

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Speaker 2: Yes, she is part of the Tucker Carlson orbit. Would

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Speaker 2: that be fair? Yeah? I think so? Yeah, Yeah, okay, yeah,

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Speaker 2: uh so, I.

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Speaker 5: Mean we could go into all sorts of detail about

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Speaker 5: this and and and we will after hearing from Ms

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Speaker 5: Gabbard herself. Well, unquestionably has strengths and and and she's

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Speaker 5: right about a lot of stuff.

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry, were you saying something hot? Oh, thank you

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Speaker 2: for that role.

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Speaker 5: So her her opening statement had some really good stuff

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Speaker 5: about how Trump's election mandate has broken cycles of failure

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Speaker 5: and we need to restore trust in the intelligence community

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Speaker 5: and how bad they've been. Amen to that, sister, I mean,

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Speaker 5: I do not disagree with that assessment at all.

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Speaker 2: She went on fairly persuasively forty six Michael.

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Speaker 6: For too long, faulty, inadequate, or weaponized intelligence have led

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Speaker 6: to costly failures and the undermining of our national security

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Speaker 6: and God given freedoms enshrined in the Constitution. The most

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Speaker 6: obvious example of one of these failures is our invasion

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Speaker 6: of Iraq based upon a total fabrication or complete failure

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Speaker 6: of intelligence. This disastrous decision led to the deaths of

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Speaker 6: tens of thousands of American soldiers and millions of people

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Speaker 6: in the Middle East, mass migration, destabilization, and undermining of

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Speaker 6: the security and stability ability of our European allies. The

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Speaker 6: rise of isis, strengthening of Al Qaeda and other Islamus

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Speaker 4: Well, so she thinks the intelligence community wasn't wrong about

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Speaker 4: weapons of master distrection.

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Speaker 2: They fabricated it, which is a.

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Speaker 5: Well she said, either fabricated or completely wrong. I'm not

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Speaker 5: sure we have that truth. So again, she's absolutely right

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Speaker 5: about that stuff. I don't disagree. That doesn't make her

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Speaker 5: the right person for the job necessarily, but she goes on.

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Speaker 6: Here are just a few other examples. The American people

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Speaker 6: elected Donald Trump as their president not once, but twice,

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Speaker 6: and yet the FBI and intelligence agencies were politicized by

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Speaker 6: his opponents to undermine his presidency and falsely portray him

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Speaker 6: as a puppet of Putin. Title one of Faiza was

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Speaker 6: used illegally to obtain a warrant to spy on Trump

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Speaker 6: campaign advisor Carter Page, using a Clinton campaign funded false

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Speaker 6: dossier as their so called evidence. Biden campaign advisor Tony

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Speaker 6: Blinken was the impetus for the fifty one former senior

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Speaker 6: intelligence officials letter dismissing Hunter Biden's laptop as disinformation specific

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Speaker 6: to help.

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Speaker 2: Biden win the election.

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Speaker 6: Former d and I James Clapper lied to this committee

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Speaker 6: in twenty thirteen denying the existence of programs that facilitated

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Speaker 6: the mass collection of millions of Americans phone and Internet records.

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Speaker 2: It was never held accountable.

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Speaker 6: Under John Brennan's leadership, the CIA abused its power to

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Speaker 6: spy on Congress to dodge oversight, lied about doing it

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Speaker 6: until he was caught, and yet has never been held responsible.

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Speaker 6: Under Biden, the FBI abused its power for political reasons

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Speaker 6: to try to surveil Catholics who attend traditional Latin mass

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Speaker 6: labeling them as quote unquote radical traditionalist Catholics. Personally, just

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Speaker 6: twenty four hours after I criticized Kamala Harris and her nomination,

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Speaker 6: I was placed on a secret domestic terror watch list

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Speaker 6: called Quiet Skies. Sadly there are more examples.

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Speaker 4: I don't know the Catholic Church one, but all the

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Speaker 4: rest of that we are aware of. And wow, I

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Speaker 4: mean that is a list of a whole bunch of

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Speaker 4: things that should have gotten way more attention. Absolutely outrageous.

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Speaker 4: Somebody should have paid a price for but did not.

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Speaker 4: I agree with everything she said there, right, unbelievable.

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Speaker 2: Remember that whole thing. When we found out that.

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Speaker 4: Was it, The NSA or CIA was spying on our senators.

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Speaker 2: Without them knowing of it.

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Speaker 4: I mean how the fact that they got away with that,

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Speaker 4: it's just amazing to me.

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Speaker 5: Right, And I don't know how interested you are in

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Speaker 5: some of the details of the resolution in favor of

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Speaker 5: dropping all charges against Edward Snowden, and the history of

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Speaker 5: the Bashar al a side stuff, and the weird religious

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Speaker 5: group she grew up in and has been associated with,

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Speaker 5: and their methods of making money, and it's all just

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Speaker 5: very strange stuff.

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Speaker 2: What's the name of the religious group she's associated with.

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Speaker 2: I don't know that story. Click over here.

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Speaker 5: It is, uh, the Science of Identity Foundation, a sect

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Speaker 5: tied to a direct marketing firm accused of running a

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Speaker 5: pyramid scheme in several countries.

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Speaker 2: Wow, but she grew up in that Uh? Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Uh. Has referred to the leaders as her guru dev,

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Speaker 5: a Hindu term that is frequently translated as divine teacher.

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Speaker 5: She has described a guy who serves on the board

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Speaker 5: her uncle.

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Speaker 2: So she's still in.

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Speaker 4: She's not one of those people that grew up in

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Speaker 4: a cult and looks back on it and thinks, what

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Speaker 4: the hell were my parents thinking.

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Speaker 2: She's still into it.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a it's a very odd religious group. Gabbard's

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Speaker 5: follower parents were followers of this Butler guy.

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Speaker 2: They raised Gabbard in the group.

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Speaker 5: Some adherents mixed Butler's toenail clippings into their meals. A

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Speaker 5: hold on, you gotta like throw some colmns, so we

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Speaker 5: slow down and get in the right lane before you

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Speaker 5: you launch that.

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Speaker 2: Say that again.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, this guy who founded this spiritual group, Chris Butler,

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Speaker 5: who she has described as her divine teacher.

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Speaker 2: Uh. Let the group.

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Speaker 5: Some adherents mixed Butler's toenail clippings into their meals as

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Speaker 5: a sign of devotion us his shoes as prayer totems.

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Speaker 2: Yes, isn't your shoes a prayer totem? To me?

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Speaker 4: Is nothing compared to mixing toenail clippings in your meals.

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Speaker 2: Sure that's that's your lead, No doubt, that's your lead. Story.

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Speaker 2: Holy crap.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's it's very very odd, and to the extent

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Speaker 5: really into it and science of identity, this this group

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Speaker 5: which sounds scientology maybe in some ways.

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Speaker 4: But did you or did you not eat toenail clippings

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Speaker 2: Oh, he's answered a question yes or no.

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Speaker 4: The record show she will not answer the question yes

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Speaker 4: or no whether she clippings with their oatmeal.

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Speaker 5: The sect seems to get its funds from this direct

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Speaker 5: connections earlier in her curber. Here's the thing, here's the thing. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: go ahead, I just got to make my ultimate point.

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Speaker 4: I was going to say, you're right about all these

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Speaker 4: things with the last couple of days. So these people

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Speaker 4: lay out stuff that's absolutely one hundred percent true, doesn't

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Speaker 4: mean they're the person that the only person that can

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Speaker 4: drive home that point though.

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Speaker 2: I mean, she just did a laundry list.

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Speaker 4: There of some horrific things that have happened in our

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Speaker 4: intelligence community.

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Speaker 2: Just horrific things.

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Speaker 4: The spying on Trump with a faked up PISA warrant.

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Speaker 4: There should be fifteen people drummed out of government, maybe

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Speaker 4: in prison over that.

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Speaker 2: Please.

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Speaker 5: I agree with everything she said there, but jack true

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Speaker 5: or false. Rosa Parks was the first person, first black person,

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Speaker 5: told to give up her seat on a bus, and

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Speaker 5: that's why she was the big test case.

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Speaker 2: Uh so, the point.

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Speaker 5: Being, I thought maybe you would jump in there. She

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Speaker 5: was selected as the test case because her character was unimpeachable.

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Speaker 5: She was the person for the job because you could

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Speaker 5: not throw any dirt at her, You could not weaken

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Speaker 5: her or the case with any of her many sins.

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Speaker 5: Tulsea Gabbert is right about this stuff, but she is

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Speaker 5: not clean enough. There are way too many questions marks

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Speaker 5: Edward Snowden revealed something. She introduced a resolution in Congress

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Speaker 5: calling for the FEDS to drop all charges acount against

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Speaker 5: Edward Snowden. For instance, Snowden who revealed the NSA's bulk

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Speaker 5: collection telephones record was illegal and unconstitutional.

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Speaker 2: One hundred percent right about that.

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Speaker 5: But Snowden Pilford and distributed to our enemies an enormous

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Speaker 5: cash of secrets that were awful in their effect for

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Speaker 5: the United States, for Britain, for the Five Eyes alone alliance. Uh,

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Speaker 5: there's a reason he went to Russian was immediately made

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Speaker 5: a citizen Inhaled as a hero.

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Speaker 4: Kids lost ground in learning during COVID, not a surprise,

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Speaker 5: The latest internet trend, Jack, because everything's got to be

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Speaker 4: Oh it's so maddening. But we won't get sidetracked on that.

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Speaker 2: But anyway, so you.

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Speaker 4: fourth graders deemed proficient in math, even though they spend

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Speaker 4: tons of money in New York City, way more than

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Speaker 4: they ever spent adjusted for inflation per student than ever

444
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Speaker 4: in history when the numbers were much higher. So don't

445
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Speaker 4: even start down the road. If they need more money,

446
00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:47,680
Speaker 4: that's a non starter. As a conversation, only a third

447
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Speaker 4: of NYC fourth grader's deemed proficient in math, despite the

448
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Speaker 4: sky high spending, Only thirty three percent of Big Apples

449
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Speaker 4: and Big Apple kids in math, only twenty eight percent

450
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Speaker 4: in reading last year according to the results. And again,

451
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Speaker 4: these numbers are only slightly different than the national averages.

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Speaker 4: They're a little below in New York City, even though

453
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Speaker 4: they spend more money than everybody else than the national averages.

454
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Speaker 4: But this is about where everybody is. And I thought, well,

455
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Speaker 4: that's damned interesting. And we've talked about this a lot.

456
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Speaker 4: Here's the version of the story today that I think

457
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Speaker 4: is being left out a lot, and many paragraphs down

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Speaker 4: on the NPR site, they get to this, COVID nineteen

459
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Speaker 4: isn't all to blame. A longer view of fourth grader's

460
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Speaker 4: math scores and student achievement more broadly shows those scores

461
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Speaker 4: have been stagnating and declining for years prior to COVID.

462
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Speaker 4: It's sped up during COVID, but they've been going down

463
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Speaker 4: for a long time and getting off track on COVID

464
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Speaker 4: caused this, and how do we bounce back? Is really

465
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Speaker 4: missing the boat if they've been dropping off year by

466
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Speaker 4: year for quite some time. Math scores peaked around twenty thirteen.

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Speaker 4: Multiple education researchers told the NPR they aren't sure why.

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Speaker 4: That is the multi trill dollar question, says an education

469
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Speaker 4: research at the University Washington who has studied pandemic learning laws.

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Speaker 4: One thing we know is that fourth grade math performance

471
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Speaker 4: improved around the same time as the no child left

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Speaker 4: Behind thing that George W. Bush brought in in two

473
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Speaker 4: thousand and two. Now, I know lots of teachers that

474
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Speaker 4: hated that.

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Speaker 2: I don't.

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Speaker 4: I don't have an argument one way or the other.

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Speaker 4: I know a lot of teachers that, at least statistically,

478
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Speaker 4: things got better when No Child left Behind hit And

479
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Speaker 4: then when those requirements were phased out in about twenty twelve,

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Speaker 4: math scores, all scores, and specifically math scores even worse

481
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Speaker 4: all started dropping and have been dropping ever since, even

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Speaker 4: without COVID.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it gets a little complicated in that you have

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Speaker 5: no child left behind, which was you know some mostly

485
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Speaker 5: good ideas and some weaknesses. But then good hearts law interceded, Jack,

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Speaker 5: which you've talked about a lot. Where you have objective standards, well,

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Speaker 5: people figure out how to manipulate those objective standards. They

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Speaker 5: start to teach to reach those standards, or cheat to

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Speaker 5: eight those standards or whatever, and they're not so worried

490
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Speaker 5: about the learning. And that became just so clear. America

491
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Speaker 5: chucked those standards because they were being abused so much.

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Speaker 2: But it worked for a while.

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Speaker 4: Well, the problem is funny, as having this conversation with

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Speaker 4: the psychiatrist the other day, it's very difficult to get

495
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Speaker 4: down to one variable to ever test anything. You know,

496
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Speaker 4: you got this going on and that going on, So

497
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Speaker 4: you got like four variables. How do I know if

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Speaker 4: this pill is working or not working when I got

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Speaker 4: all these variables. That's the way it is with the

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Speaker 4: school stuff. There are so many variables going on at

501
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Speaker 4: the same time. The one child left behind thing might

502
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Speaker 4: have nothing to do with it. It also coincides fairly

503
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Speaker 4: decently with kids getting smartphones.

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Speaker 2: Okay, that's not a minor thing.

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Speaker 5: On the present entertainment devices in their pockets. Gee, I

506
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Speaker 5: wonder if that had any effect on education. Come on,

507
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Speaker 5: are we adults here?

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Speaker 4: It also coincides with the Great Recession. They don't really

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Speaker 4: spell out how that would fit in, but it is

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Speaker 4: roughly the same time that score started going the wrong direction,

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Speaker 4: increased access to smartphones and tablets, obesity going up while

512
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Speaker 4: that was going down. Does that have any fact I

513
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Speaker 4: don't know, but you do have a lot of variables involved.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think the Great Recession thing is more coincidence

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Speaker 5: than explanatory.

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Speaker 4: But okay, I think you certainly can't underappreciate the fact

517
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Speaker 4: that the score started dropping roughly the same time as

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Speaker 4: smartphones becoming prevalent in the schools.

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Speaker 2: That one seems crazy.

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Speaker 5: If I might further cloud the waters. You also had

521
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Speaker 5: an influx of millions of people who don't speak English,

522
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Speaker 5: legally and illegally flooding into government schools.

523
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Speaker 4: And what point did we start having Pride Month where

524
00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:47,679
Speaker 4: every single day you have an assembly and talk about

525
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Speaker 4: the role of gay this or that in every classroom,

526
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Speaker 4: taking time from teaching.

527
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Speaker 5: Other stuff, and literally lessons about you're probably transgender and

528
00:27:57,480 --> 00:28:00,359
Speaker 5: that's wonderful in the government schools, all of that along

529
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Speaker 5: and roughly the same time or all kinds of abandonment

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Speaker 5: of core principles.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, all kinds of non reading and writing core stuff

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Speaker 4: that has crept into schools over the last decade or so.

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Speaker 4: And then this I wanted to get breaking it down

534
00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:15,399
Speaker 4: by race, and then it gets really complicated here. Percentage

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Speaker 4: at or above proficiency basic proficiency nationwide, Asian kids eighty

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Speaker 4: nine percent at are above basic proficiency nine out of ten.

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Speaker 2: That's pretty impressive.

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Speaker 4: Why supremacy black half, Hispanic sixty one percent? This is

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Speaker 4: basic proficiency. You get to the proficient, which is where

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Speaker 4: they would like you to be a little higher standard.

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Speaker 2: God, basic proficiency has got to be low. I mean

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Speaker 2: the standard.

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Speaker 5: They ought to call that functional, fairly functional.

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Speaker 4: If you get into actually proficient, where you probably want

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Speaker 4: your kid to be, and it's probably not that highest

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Speaker 4: standard anyway. For Asian sixty three percent of kids, for

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Speaker 4: Black ten percent of kids. Oh my gosh, how about

548
00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:12,960
Speaker 4: that Hispanic twenty two white half. What is that all about?

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Speaker 4: I mean, I know, if you're Ibram Kenny, how you

550
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Speaker 4: explain it? But how do you actually explain it?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Well, there are a number of fascinations, are there

553
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Speaker 5: A lot of including does your culture Roared Revere learning

554
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Speaker 5: or not.

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Speaker 2: I mean, start there. How can you not start there?

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Speaker 2: That's the last place you can start. Oh, I know,

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Speaker 2: I know which witch is. You know it means you're doomed.

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Speaker 5: Now, let's we need to confront this problem, but not

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Speaker 5: any aspect of it that makes us feel uncomfortable.

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Speaker 4: And what's surprising to me about that is I think

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Speaker 4: most white families I know look at the Asian families

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Speaker 4: and think, good, Yeah, go ahead, knock yourself out.

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Speaker 2: We ain't doing that, So I.

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Speaker 5: Mean they're taking it too seriously. So fine, if there

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Speaker 5: were a way to ascertain attitudes among various ethnic groups,

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Speaker 5: which is broad brush painting, and it's you know, of

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Speaker 2: But if you were to do.

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Speaker 5: That though, speaking of white and Asian people, oh bet,

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Speaker 5: you'd have an exit to him. Your exact correlation with

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Speaker 5: test scores, to what extent do you think your kids

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Speaker 8: One of the dumbest phrases in military history is our

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Speaker 8: diversity is our strength. Our diversity is not our strength.

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Speaker 8: Our and our shared purpose is our strength. And the

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Speaker 8: Pentagon is excited to get back to that core mission.

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Speaker 8: It's happening rapidly. The services are responding, and those that

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Speaker 8: don't want to respond can work somewhere else. So diversity,

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Speaker 5: Not a minute long, Amen, Pete Hagzeth, go get them, Pete.

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Speaker 5: Reforming the Department of Defense. Love everything I've heard so far.

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Speaker 4: According to the economist, Iran is screaming toward a nuclear

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Speaker 4: weapon and Donald Trump is going to have to deal

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Speaker 4: with that real soon. So a lot of these conversations

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Speaker 4: about the Secretary of Defense are probably going to fall

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Speaker 4: you have to say about our current war with Iran

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Speaker 4: or something along those lines.

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Speaker 5: Although I will say this, the idea of all right,

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Speaker 5: let's cut the crap, or prefer if you prefer the

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Speaker 5: Has got to go, and thank god it's starting to go.

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Speaker 2: I thought this was interesting.

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Speaker 4: N The idea that diversity is our strength in the

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Speaker 4: military is the dumbest thing ever said.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's unspeakably idiotic.

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Speaker 5: It's hard to believe anybody, any adult, would repeat it,

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Speaker 5: and yet many do. And they should not be in charge.

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Speaker 5: Rob Smith is a gay combat vet and has been

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Speaker 5: posting on the internet lately about transgender service people and

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Speaker 5: Trump's order that they should not be in the service

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Speaker 5: for a variety of reasons.

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Speaker 2: Here's what a member of.

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Speaker 5: The LGBTQ plus minus over the power of seven community

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Speaker 5: has to say about it.

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Speaker 2: We'll start with ad Michael first of all.

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Speaker 1: Number one, and this is what a lot of people

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Speaker 1: don't realize. There are upwards of fifteen thousand people that

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Speaker 1: are serving quote unquote in the United States military right now.

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Speaker 1: The first thing that I'm going to tell you is

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Speaker 1: that all of these people are non deployable. What that

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Speaker 1: means is that if you are a transgender identified person

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Speaker 1: that is quote unquote serving in the United States military

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Speaker 1: right now, you are non combat deployment. So these people

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Speaker 1: cannot deploy two combat theaters when the United States is

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Speaker 1: involved in any sort of conflict.

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Speaker 5: Over he gets a little repetitive here, So Michael, go

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Speaker 5: ahead and fade that out, and I want to get

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Speaker 5: to the next club.

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Speaker 2: That's interesting.

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Speaker 1: The vast majority of transgender people when they separate from

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Speaker 1: the United States Military do so by medically separating. This

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Speaker 1: means that they are at eighty to one disability. And

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Speaker 1: so now what that means is that taxpayers are on

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Speaker 1: the hook for two to three hundred thousand dollars per

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Speaker 1: year annually of quote unquote transgender healthcare, which is also

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Speaker 1: covered by the VA. This costs American tax payers to

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Speaker 1: the tune upwards of six figures per perse.

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Speaker 5: So you serve for a cup of coffee and have

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Speaker 5: the taxpayers take up the bill for your transgender or

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Speaker 5: healthcare for the rest of your days under the VA.

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Speaker 2: One more, Michael Ginger.

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Speaker 1: Dysphoria is a documented mental illments, which means that we

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Speaker 1: have these people that are not only non combat deployable,

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Speaker 1: they are also costing the US taxpair one hundred thousand

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Speaker 1: dollars plus per year for their healthcare. And they also

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Speaker 1: had a documented mental health condition. This is why Trump

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Speaker 1: has signed or is about to sign, the executive order

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Speaker 1: banning transgender people from the military. Because the military is

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Speaker 1: not a medical experiment. Taxpairs should not be footing the

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Speaker 1: bill for this.

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Speaker 2: And we don't have time to get into it.

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Speaker 5: But he talks about some of the transgender people he

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Speaker 5: served with and how they're all unstable. I'm not saying

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Speaker 5: every single person is, but his experience was unstable. It

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Speaker 5: contributed negatively to readiness to group cohesion in every way.

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Speaker 2: Wow.

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Speaker 4: And that was going on during the Biden administry and

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Speaker 4: they knew that, but it's looked so good to have

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Speaker 4: the trans.

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Speaker 2: Community in the military and they wanted to continue it.

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Speaker 4: Interesting Armstrong and Getty