1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:06,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, that Chuck Norris was chasing the Tyrannosaurus Rex. The 2 00:00:06,040 --> 00:00:09,520 Speaker 1: rex was not chasing the jeep. Murray, Murray, you there. 3 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:14,200 Speaker 1: You love sandwiches. Huh, let's go to eighty. He was 4 00:00:14,360 --> 00:00:18,480 Speaker 1: bo wow that Prime Time. Maybe I had a crush 5 00:00:18,520 --> 00:00:19,240 Speaker 1: on Betty Rubble. 6 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:22,320 Speaker 2: I honestly, until after the segment ended and we went 7 00:00:22,360 --> 00:00:25,760 Speaker 2: to commercial break, had no idea that Jonathan Coachman was black. 8 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:28,360 Speaker 1: He caught them the game last night, although they won 9 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:31,680 Speaker 1: the game. You're listening just to godsen Company. 10 00:00:32,080 --> 00:00:34,600 Speaker 2: It is to Gods and Company, presented by Vandul on 11 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:37,840 Speaker 2: the Vandal sportsbook. Field Yates is with us right now. 12 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:42,080 Speaker 2: I am very excited. The draft is getting closer and closer. 13 00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:42,800 Speaker 1: I can't wait. 14 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:47,160 Speaker 2: It's the Jets Super Bowl every single year, and that they. 15 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:48,280 Speaker 1: Always lose it somehow. 16 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:53,040 Speaker 2: So let's start right there. Whose career are the Jets 17 00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:54,320 Speaker 2: going to ruin this time? 18 00:00:54,400 --> 00:00:55,080 Speaker 1: Field God? 19 00:00:55,680 --> 00:00:57,440 Speaker 3: When you put it that way, I'm just gonna make 20 00:00:57,520 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 3: up a mythical prospect and say him at number two 21 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:03,920 Speaker 3: and see if people believe it. All right, let's see 22 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:07,200 Speaker 3: if we can spin this positively. Okay, well, good luck 23 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:10,640 Speaker 3: the Jets. I know I'm doing my best here. Over 24 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 3: this draft and next, the Jets currently own nine picks 25 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:17,720 Speaker 3: in the first two rounds. Yes, I think you go 26 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:20,800 Speaker 3: into a draft and you say to yourself, no matter 27 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:23,240 Speaker 3: what the year is, but some years more than others, 28 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:27,520 Speaker 3: there should be about sixty players per draft that are 29 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 3: viewed as starters from the moment they enter the NFL. 30 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:33,360 Speaker 3: So there's a chance that over the next two years 31 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 3: the Jets acquire close to forty percent of their starting 32 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:40,119 Speaker 3: roster through the draft, right nine picks in the first 33 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:43,200 Speaker 3: two rounds. On top of that, the Jets have three 34 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:45,160 Speaker 3: first round picks next year. And I know that people 35 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:48,720 Speaker 3: get sick of hearing this draft analysts talk about how 36 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 3: next year's draft looks amazing. Next year's draft does look unbelievable. 37 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:56,320 Speaker 3: It's not a mystery. Like it's not a mystery why 38 00:01:56,400 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 3: the Jets asked for the Cowboys pick the second round 39 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 3: pick this year and the first round pick next year 40 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 3: from Dallas for in the Quentinn Williams deal next year's draft. 41 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:09,399 Speaker 3: And I'm not just talking about quarterbacks, but quarterbacks definitely, 42 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:13,520 Speaker 3: But there are just some ridiculous non quarterbacks in next 43 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:16,080 Speaker 3: year's draft class. Jeremiah Smith in Ohio State is probably 44 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:18,520 Speaker 3: the player that a year out is considered the front 45 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:22,120 Speaker 3: runner as like the best non quarterback in the class. 46 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:25,440 Speaker 3: But Colin Simmons a pass rusher from Texas amongst many 47 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:28,560 Speaker 3: many other awesome players. So if there's ever a time 48 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:30,680 Speaker 3: to have three first round picks, it is twenty twenty seven. 49 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:32,400 Speaker 3: And what I think it allows the Jets to do, 50 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:35,080 Speaker 3: I'm trying hard to be very serious here is I 51 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:37,160 Speaker 3: do think it allows the Jets this year to say, hey, 52 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:40,920 Speaker 3: if we truly whether this is a good plan or not, 53 00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 3: but if we truly want Gino Smith to be our 54 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:47,520 Speaker 3: starting quarterback for this season, we can bypass a quarterback 55 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:51,280 Speaker 3: in this year's class in the first round or two rounds. Really, 56 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:53,480 Speaker 3: you take a guy, you know, if you take a 57 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:55,920 Speaker 3: quarterback in the third round, fourth round, no one is 58 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 3: saying that guy is the answer for you long term. 59 00:02:58,160 --> 00:03:00,480 Speaker 3: He has a chance to become that. But we see 60 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:03,480 Speaker 3: third and fourth round quarterbacks flame out all the time, 61 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 3: or just the quarter backups at worst. 62 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:07,320 Speaker 1: So the Jets do see. 63 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:09,400 Speaker 2: Your point field. We do see third and fourth round 64 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:11,959 Speaker 2: picks succeed in the NFL. 65 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:15,040 Speaker 3: Yes, there's minimal risk to drafting a quarterback in the 66 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 3: third or fourth front because if they hit, everybody applauds you. 67 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 3: If they just become career backups, it's like that's the 68 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:21,440 Speaker 3: reason why they went in the third or fourth round 69 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 3: in the first place. Yes, so the Jets do have 70 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:27,839 Speaker 3: a chance to reshape their roster and their franchise over 71 00:03:27,880 --> 00:03:32,480 Speaker 3: these next two years. And yeah, history would suggest, especially 72 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:34,280 Speaker 3: recent history, that it's you know, the Jets are going 73 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 3: to have some errors along the way. It's hard to 74 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:39,160 Speaker 3: go nine for nine on any draft picks. I'm trying 75 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:40,760 Speaker 3: to I'm trying to make you feel good, though. Here's 76 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:45,000 Speaker 3: too I feel on the show. Yea, And yeah, this 77 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:47,520 Speaker 3: is I think that not like the Jets have told 78 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:51,320 Speaker 3: me this, but I think the the the methodology right 79 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:54,040 Speaker 3: now within the Jets front office is our master plan 80 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:55,920 Speaker 3: is nine picks. That's our master plan. 81 00:03:56,240 --> 00:03:56,320 Speaker 1: Right. 82 00:03:56,560 --> 00:04:00,080 Speaker 3: We are now without Quinn Williams and Sauce Gardner, and 83 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:02,880 Speaker 3: obviously those are two of the best players on the 84 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:05,480 Speaker 3: roster at the time, but you maybe got you extracted 85 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:09,360 Speaker 3: better value for those players if you nail those draft picks, 86 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:13,440 Speaker 3: then keeping those players and eventually getting towards the back 87 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 3: end of their prime before your team is sort of 88 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:21,000 Speaker 3: fully clicking. So there is I think some calculus behind 89 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:23,000 Speaker 3: what the Jets have been doing and what they will 90 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:24,600 Speaker 3: execute over the next two years. 91 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:25,880 Speaker 1: And you agree with. 92 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:29,279 Speaker 2: It if indeed that is the strategy, it's a strategy 93 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:30,880 Speaker 2: that you agree with for I agree that. 94 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:33,680 Speaker 3: Not only do I agree with it and aggregate, but 95 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:36,000 Speaker 3: like looking at each of those trades, my first thought 96 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:39,279 Speaker 3: when I saw the reports come out on especially the 97 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:42,800 Speaker 3: sauce Gardener trade, was like, that's incredible value for the Jets. 98 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:46,800 Speaker 3: It's truly exceptional. At the time, the sauce Gardener trade 99 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:49,080 Speaker 3: was made when Indy was humming, but I still thought 100 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:51,240 Speaker 3: it was a good trade. They went on to lose 101 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:53,599 Speaker 3: I think it was like six of their last seven 102 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:57,040 Speaker 3: or seven trade games to end the season, and the 103 00:04:57,120 --> 00:04:59,720 Speaker 3: Jets now own a mid first round pick for Indianapolis 104 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 3: and the pick they have next year from Dallas. 105 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:03,120 Speaker 2: Uh. 106 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:06,040 Speaker 3: This is not quite full like NBA lottery style, but 107 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 3: it's the what it's the better of the two I 108 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:11,279 Speaker 3: believe goes to the Jets, the better of the Packers 109 00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:13,719 Speaker 3: and the Cowboys goes to the Jets. So the Jets 110 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:16,720 Speaker 3: have some optionality as well with next year's pick. If 111 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:20,000 Speaker 3: the Packers get Micah Parsons back early and they're awesome. 112 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:22,919 Speaker 3: Then the Jets bringing to the Cowboys pick. If the 113 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 3: Cowboys have a great offseason and they hum next year, 114 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:29,120 Speaker 3: the Packers are more middle of the pack, the Jets 115 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:31,560 Speaker 3: get that pick. So to me, it's it's a reasonable 116 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:35,120 Speaker 3: it's a good strategy, not just in sort of the 117 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 3: aggregate in the sum, but I thought each of the 118 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:39,440 Speaker 3: moves individually was logical. By the Jets. 119 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:41,800 Speaker 4: Thank you for seeing me here on the zoom field, 120 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 4: and then throwing in the NBA lottery reference just to 121 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:46,920 Speaker 4: get the appreciate it. 122 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:49,240 Speaker 3: Do you have any lottery reform fix? I I listened 123 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:52,360 Speaker 3: to many NBA podcasts, and there was a stretch, I 124 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 3: don't know, two straight weeks were each and every one 125 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:59,120 Speaker 3: of them dissected lottery reform thoughts. And I don't know 126 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:01,560 Speaker 3: that we get any closer to the target because when 127 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:05,880 Speaker 3: the NBA floated their three proposals a week or so ago, 128 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:07,840 Speaker 3: I thought to myself, all of these are ridiculous and 129 00:06:07,839 --> 00:06:08,800 Speaker 3: they're way too complicated. 130 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:11,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, the easiest one that they offered that 131 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:14,880 Speaker 4: I liked was the one with the making throwing all 132 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:17,880 Speaker 4: the playing teams uh into the lottery and then sort 133 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:21,440 Speaker 4: of evening out the the odds, So it doesn't it 134 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:22,680 Speaker 4: doesn't necessarily favor that. 135 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:23,599 Speaker 1: See, Stud's mad. 136 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:26,720 Speaker 2: Stud's mad that you none me, Taylor smiling because how 137 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:29,360 Speaker 2: the fuck did he suck you into an MBA conversation. 138 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:33,040 Speaker 1: I could feel your eyes burning through me as I'm 139 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:37,680 Speaker 1: answering the question. I'm like Israel questions. 140 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:40,760 Speaker 3: I mean it's also I'm a sneaky NBA fan. I 141 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:42,719 Speaker 3: actually I am looking for a forum to share my 142 00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:45,680 Speaker 3: NBA thoughts. So thank you to Izzy for actually allow me. 143 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 4: He said for him, all right, so what are your 144 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:49,960 Speaker 4: quick thoughts in the Oklahoma City Thunder as a favorite 145 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:51,520 Speaker 4: as a I don't know. 146 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:54,000 Speaker 3: Here's what I say, Like they are, I would just here's 147 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:56,400 Speaker 3: where I do land on them, because they are the favorites. 148 00:06:57,560 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 3: They are. 149 00:06:57,920 --> 00:07:00,080 Speaker 1: They are question answered. 150 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:04,200 Speaker 2: Field if you want to ask him basketball questions, have. 151 00:07:04,200 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 3: That and I don't get here, we go U the 152 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:15,320 Speaker 3: Thunder or they are the dessert favorites. I would just 153 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:19,680 Speaker 3: say as an impartial viewer, they I don't particularly enjoy 154 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:23,080 Speaker 3: their like the style of play relative to other teams 155 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 3: that are good in the NBA. Maybe it's the shiny 156 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 3: objects syndrome. But like when I watch the Spurs and 157 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 3: maybe it's the victor wembognam of it all. That's a 158 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:33,640 Speaker 3: way more entertaining brand of basketball for me to watch 159 00:07:33,720 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 3: right now than the Thunder, which feels more like a 160 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:40,920 Speaker 3: rock fight. And and to their credit, they have maximized it. 161 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 3: And Shay is probably gonna win his second straight m 162 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:47,320 Speaker 3: v p H. But if the if the NBA Finals 163 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:49,680 Speaker 3: are the Thunder versus the Pistons or the Celtics or 164 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:52,880 Speaker 3: the next whatever it might be, Yeah, there's gonna be 165 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:54,840 Speaker 3: a part of me that's like the the the alternative 166 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 3: door of the Spurs versus one of those Eastern Conference 167 00:07:57,880 --> 00:08:00,400 Speaker 3: scenes that I mentioned would have been more compelling to 168 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:02,320 Speaker 3: I think the impartial viewer. 169 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:05,320 Speaker 4: It's crazy how the tables have turned, because the Spurs 170 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:07,240 Speaker 4: used to be the boring ass team that nobody to 171 00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 4: see in the fight. 172 00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:10,440 Speaker 1: Everybody wants to see him, all right, so you've learned, 173 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:12,480 Speaker 1: all right? I mean Jesus go ahead. 174 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:14,440 Speaker 4: Or as Taylor would say, they lead the league. The 175 00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 4: Thunder lead the league in what was it ezz plus? 176 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:18,680 Speaker 1: Yes there it is. 177 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:21,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm stealing that, Taylor. 178 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:26,080 Speaker 2: You could have it it's all yours, bud, so feel 179 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 2: it full disclosure. 180 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:29,360 Speaker 4: Like I every time I see Jeff Hafley on a 181 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:31,680 Speaker 4: TV doing an interview, I make sure I don't listen 182 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:34,000 Speaker 4: because I don't. I just don't want to hear anything 183 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:36,400 Speaker 4: that he has to say about right now? 184 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:38,400 Speaker 1: Right are they? 185 00:08:38,720 --> 00:08:42,160 Speaker 4: How well are they positioning themselves for this draft of 186 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:45,480 Speaker 4: next year that you talk about, because the march for arch, 187 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 4: like I wanted to start right now, let's just go 188 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:50,920 Speaker 4: oh and whatever, and you know, next year, let's wake 189 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:52,679 Speaker 4: me up and I'll start watching the Dolphins again. 190 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:55,960 Speaker 3: So a couple of things. I'm a big, big believer, 191 00:08:56,040 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 3: and it requires the right owner, because owners, I think, 192 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:03,120 Speaker 3: especially in the NFL, are impatient and they have rabbit ears. 193 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:05,600 Speaker 3: They hear everything that people like us are saying about 194 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:08,719 Speaker 3: their franchises, and they make impulsive decisions, and they pull 195 00:09:08,760 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 3: the plug on team building plans sometimes or oftentimes too soon. 196 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:17,600 Speaker 3: So far under new leadership, the Dolphins have done have 197 00:09:17,640 --> 00:09:22,000 Speaker 3: accomplished two really important things. One, they've done a good 198 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 3: self scouting. The rostar was going nowhere, nowhere, like the 199 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:28,520 Speaker 3: players that were on that roster that were the best, 200 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:33,480 Speaker 3: most meaningful contributors would not influence winning enough for it 201 00:09:33,520 --> 00:09:37,560 Speaker 3: to matter during the length of their current contract. Jalen 202 00:09:37,559 --> 00:09:40,080 Speaker 3: Waddle is probably the most notable. He's a great player, obviously, 203 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 3: but by the time that the Dolphins were back to 204 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:46,600 Speaker 3: where they want to be, Jalen is either A going 205 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:51,520 Speaker 3: to be either having a contract expired or expireing, or 206 00:09:51,559 --> 00:09:54,120 Speaker 3: B say, hey, I'm happy to extend, but I now 207 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:56,400 Speaker 3: no longer want to make twenty seven million dollars a year. 208 00:09:56,440 --> 00:09:58,520 Speaker 3: I want to make forty one million dollars a year, 209 00:09:58,559 --> 00:10:01,280 Speaker 3: and it's going to become more defensive. So A, they've 210 00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:03,000 Speaker 3: done a really good job of identifying, like, we're just 211 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:05,920 Speaker 3: not good. Let's take our medicine this year and think 212 00:10:05,920 --> 00:10:08,880 Speaker 3: about twenty twenty seven and beyond. And B they've been 213 00:10:08,920 --> 00:10:11,360 Speaker 3: honest about it. I heard John Eric Salivan the New 214 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:13,920 Speaker 3: GM describe it. I think it was to I'm almost 215 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:15,920 Speaker 3: positive it was to Mike Floria and Chris Sims on 216 00:10:15,920 --> 00:10:18,320 Speaker 3: Pro Football talk about how like he sort of went 217 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:20,600 Speaker 3: through the Jalen wild trade and it was just he 218 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:21,920 Speaker 3: kind of hit on some of the notes that I 219 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:24,440 Speaker 3: mentioned that, like, you know, this is a guy who's 220 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 3: a great player but making a certain amount of money 221 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:31,160 Speaker 3: at a certain age by the time his deal comes up, like, 222 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:34,360 Speaker 3: we may not be ready to carry a forty two 223 00:10:34,400 --> 00:10:38,040 Speaker 3: million dollar wide receiver ultimately, and yeah, I get at 224 00:10:38,040 --> 00:10:42,400 Speaker 3: the Seahawks just won Super Bowl with a dominant defense. First. Ultimately, 225 00:10:42,440 --> 00:10:44,480 Speaker 3: the best chance to sustain winning in the NFL is 226 00:10:44,480 --> 00:10:47,079 Speaker 3: to find a good quarterback. That's just there's no two 227 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:49,560 Speaker 3: ways about it. We're talking about you know, we've talked 228 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:52,080 Speaker 3: about the Chiefs as the best team of the NFL 229 00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:54,600 Speaker 3: for the past decade because of Patrick Mahomes and Josh 230 00:10:54,640 --> 00:10:56,520 Speaker 3: Allen gives the Bills a chance, and Lamar Jackson gives 231 00:10:56,559 --> 00:10:59,120 Speaker 3: a Ravens a chance, and Joe Burrow gives the the 232 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:01,600 Speaker 3: Bengals a chance. Now Drake may gives Patriots a chance. 233 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:04,600 Speaker 3: Because this guy's are great quarterbacks. So Miami is saying 234 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:06,480 Speaker 3: we can take all of them met in the medicine. 235 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:09,000 Speaker 3: This year probably be bad. We got to nail they 236 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:10,679 Speaker 3: have seven picks on the top one hundred of this 237 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:13,840 Speaker 3: year's draft. Gott to nail the draft, and then next 238 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:19,760 Speaker 3: year we can start to piece together more talents. Make 239 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:22,160 Speaker 3: a decision more thoughtful decision on Malik Willis, who's going 240 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:24,240 Speaker 3: to be the starting quarterback for at least this year 241 00:11:24,679 --> 00:11:26,840 Speaker 3: and then build this back up. And if you're Miami, 242 00:11:26,880 --> 00:11:29,560 Speaker 3: why bother playing the short game. You've got Josh Allen 243 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:31,920 Speaker 3: who probably has at least a half decade left a 244 00:11:31,920 --> 00:11:34,320 Speaker 3: really good play, and then Drake May, who might have 245 00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:36,640 Speaker 3: ten years left of great play. Look what's the rush 246 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:38,200 Speaker 3: right now? If you're in Miami, I get it. It 247 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:41,000 Speaker 3: sucks and owners, you know, Steve Ross probably hates the 248 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:43,160 Speaker 3: fact that the stadium will be you know whatever. It 249 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:46,959 Speaker 3: might be half empty in December, but okay, great, or 250 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:48,840 Speaker 3: you could you could do what you've been doing recently, 251 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:51,880 Speaker 3: which is be an extremely expensive cash wise and not winning. 252 00:11:52,040 --> 00:11:54,120 Speaker 3: So you choose what you will prefer. I'd rather give 253 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:56,640 Speaker 3: myself a chance to win in the long run than to, 254 00:11:57,760 --> 00:11:59,559 Speaker 3: you know, just spend a lot of money to go 255 00:11:59,720 --> 00:12:01,959 Speaker 3: at nine to eight and then lose to the Chiefs 256 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:03,199 Speaker 3: in the first round of the playoffs. 257 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:04,880 Speaker 1: It's not the company you want, is he? 258 00:12:04,960 --> 00:12:06,680 Speaker 2: But it seems like the Jets and the Dolphins have 259 00:12:06,720 --> 00:12:09,240 Speaker 2: to do the same thing, just the same vision, same 260 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:12,080 Speaker 2: problems dealing with Drake May and Josh Allen, and it's 261 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:14,120 Speaker 2: you know, take a long term approach. 262 00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:16,320 Speaker 4: Which is not one and in a race to see 263 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:17,840 Speaker 4: who can suck the hardest. 264 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:21,199 Speaker 3: Yeah, but it is a good time to do it, right. 265 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:23,120 Speaker 3: Look around the NFL. How many other teams are in 266 00:12:23,120 --> 00:12:27,319 Speaker 3: that boat? Yes, And I know that a year from 267 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:29,520 Speaker 3: now we might be saying, oh, well, this class didn't 268 00:12:29,520 --> 00:12:31,600 Speaker 3: work out like we thought it would, Right. I'm just 269 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:34,160 Speaker 3: telling you, like and talking to people who work for 270 00:12:34,280 --> 00:12:38,040 Speaker 3: NFL teams whose job is to measure, Hey, the draft 271 00:12:38,440 --> 00:12:41,400 Speaker 3: this year versus next year versus potentially two years from now, 272 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:43,960 Speaker 3: we hear this much more. And end the NBA where 273 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:45,720 Speaker 3: everybody is saying part of the reason why they're tanking 274 00:12:45,840 --> 00:12:48,160 Speaker 3: this year is because next year and the year after 275 00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:52,840 Speaker 3: his draft look pretty unfavorable at this point. But people 276 00:12:52,880 --> 00:12:55,440 Speaker 3: who are paid to forecast what the draft will look like, 277 00:12:55,679 --> 00:12:58,880 Speaker 3: not for ESPN or for your favorite whatever your favorite 278 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:03,240 Speaker 3: draft website is or network is, but for NFL teams 279 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:06,920 Speaker 3: right are saying next year's class looks like an absolute doozy. 280 00:13:07,280 --> 00:13:08,959 Speaker 3: And if you're the Jets and the Dolphins and you're 281 00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:11,120 Speaker 3: giving yourself a chance to be in pole position to 282 00:13:11,160 --> 00:13:14,080 Speaker 3: have a top five or ten pick, yeah, it's gonna 283 00:13:14,120 --> 00:13:16,200 Speaker 3: suck during the year this year, But you think the 284 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:19,720 Speaker 3: Raiders regret not winning a couple of games down the stretch, 285 00:13:20,160 --> 00:13:22,480 Speaker 3: of course not. There's thrilled that they have the chance 286 00:13:22,520 --> 00:13:24,400 Speaker 3: to take Fernanda Mendoza number one. Overall. 287 00:13:24,760 --> 00:13:27,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, listen, you're right. There are a bunch of teams 288 00:13:27,679 --> 00:13:30,319 Speaker 2: or are in the same boat. The problem is, occasionally 289 00:13:30,400 --> 00:13:32,600 Speaker 2: those teams jump out of the boat and they go see, 290 00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:35,800 Speaker 2: you know, in nice Island somewhere. Perhaps they find themselves 291 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:36,720 Speaker 2: in the super Bowl. 292 00:13:36,640 --> 00:13:39,200 Speaker 1: Maybe the playoffs. I don't know. The Jets are the 293 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:41,200 Speaker 1: fucking boat and that's the problem, you know. 294 00:13:41,559 --> 00:13:43,600 Speaker 3: Well, but there's examples, like I'll give you a recent 295 00:13:43,640 --> 00:13:45,800 Speaker 3: example of a team and they're fine now because they 296 00:13:45,800 --> 00:13:48,440 Speaker 3: got a quarterback a year later. But like the Giants 297 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:50,680 Speaker 3: a couple of seasons ago, the year they ended up 298 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:52,800 Speaker 3: with the sixth pick, which was Malik Naples, who was 299 00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:55,680 Speaker 3: a great player. Remember like that was the class that 300 00:13:55,760 --> 00:13:58,560 Speaker 3: had Kaili Williams, Jaden Daniels and Drake may and the 301 00:13:58,559 --> 00:14:00,840 Speaker 3: Giants were trying, like crazy move up. Well I don't 302 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:02,240 Speaker 3: know about like crazy, but they were trying to move 303 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:04,120 Speaker 3: up to get Drake Maye. We saw it on hard knocks. 304 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:07,280 Speaker 3: The offer they made was certainly not a serious enough 305 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:10,320 Speaker 3: one for the Patriots to make the deal. But that 306 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:13,559 Speaker 3: was like a couple of games, one or two games 307 00:14:13,720 --> 00:14:15,920 Speaker 3: at the end of that season. That was the difference 308 00:14:15,920 --> 00:14:20,320 Speaker 3: between the Giants right now having a quarterback from that 309 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:23,760 Speaker 3: twenty twenty four class versus not now Jackson Dart's gonna 310 00:14:23,760 --> 00:14:25,880 Speaker 3: be really good player. So I think all things have 311 00:14:26,080 --> 00:14:30,360 Speaker 3: ended up really well for the Giants. But that is 312 00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:33,880 Speaker 3: the I think with teams that are kind of planning ahead, 313 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:37,760 Speaker 3: are thinking about is that like, is is it fun? 314 00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:40,000 Speaker 3: Like it might help a job, might help the coach 315 00:14:40,040 --> 00:14:42,320 Speaker 3: in a press conference in December to not have to 316 00:14:42,360 --> 00:14:45,880 Speaker 3: answer questions about seeking Is there really that much of 317 00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:49,040 Speaker 3: a difference in the grand scheme winning two extra games 318 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:50,920 Speaker 3: to go five and twelve? That's not good? 319 00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:51,960 Speaker 1: No, it's not. 320 00:14:52,520 --> 00:14:55,080 Speaker 2: His latest mock draft is out right now on ESPN 321 00:14:55,120 --> 00:14:58,800 Speaker 2: dot com First Draft. The podcast is also new episodes 322 00:14:58,800 --> 00:15:01,600 Speaker 2: out right now. Greenberg, how was mel by the way? 323 00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:03,320 Speaker 1: How's he doing? You know? 324 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:06,160 Speaker 3: Nell actually called me yesterday and I said, Hey, what 325 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:07,440 Speaker 3: what do you have tomorrow? I said, oh, you know, 326 00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:10,640 Speaker 3: I'm going on with Stu Gotts and he goes, oh Lovets. 327 00:15:12,680 --> 00:15:16,280 Speaker 1: Come after that first sound? Nothing makes me happier. 328 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:20,040 Speaker 3: I think about Mel's mail has got very specific taste 329 00:15:20,040 --> 00:15:21,760 Speaker 3: to you guys know that like Mel loves what he 330 00:15:21,840 --> 00:15:25,840 Speaker 3: loves right pie famously and uh, you know his orange 331 00:15:25,880 --> 00:15:31,280 Speaker 3: crushes as well, his favorite his favorite summer cocktail and 332 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:35,080 Speaker 3: he loves I think I think what he meant was 333 00:15:35,160 --> 00:15:39,200 Speaker 3: the entire family, you know on Stu Gotts uh here. 334 00:15:39,320 --> 00:15:41,520 Speaker 3: So I think that he he really was referring to 335 00:15:41,560 --> 00:15:42,480 Speaker 3: all four people on. 336 00:15:42,440 --> 00:15:45,000 Speaker 2: This zoom right now, not just me and Mikey he 337 00:15:45,040 --> 00:15:46,840 Speaker 2: loves the most that he does. 338 00:15:47,800 --> 00:15:48,680 Speaker 1: He does love Mikey. 339 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:52,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, what what change from your last mock. 340 00:15:52,320 --> 00:15:54,120 Speaker 1: Draft to this mock draft? 341 00:15:54,600 --> 00:15:56,800 Speaker 3: Tell what I haven't had? Last year? I felt like 342 00:15:56,840 --> 00:16:00,960 Speaker 3: there were some bigger swings in in uh pred mock drafts. 343 00:16:01,800 --> 00:16:03,800 Speaker 3: I think part of that, let's just be entirely candid, 344 00:16:03,840 --> 00:16:06,280 Speaker 3: is is shod Or Sanders. Last year, right, there was 345 00:16:06,320 --> 00:16:07,640 Speaker 3: a time where it felt like he could go as 346 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:10,600 Speaker 3: highs too, and then he ends up going one forty four, 347 00:16:10,760 --> 00:16:13,320 Speaker 3: so off by only one hundred and forty slots there. 348 00:16:14,400 --> 00:16:18,080 Speaker 3: But even like, and I'm sure there were some people 349 00:16:18,080 --> 00:16:20,280 Speaker 3: that were like, I don't know that he'll go top 350 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:22,360 Speaker 3: thirty two, but it wasn't like I saw many people 351 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:24,880 Speaker 3: that were like or maybe any people that were saying, yeah, 352 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:28,880 Speaker 3: day three for shud or Sanders. Ty Simpson is the 353 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:34,080 Speaker 3: player that has seems like the most interest of where 354 00:16:34,120 --> 00:16:39,040 Speaker 3: he goes. I did not do a mock draft in 355 00:16:39,080 --> 00:16:42,320 Speaker 3: which I had Tie in like the top twenty. I 356 00:16:42,360 --> 00:16:45,760 Speaker 3: don't think that's also because I don't have to do 357 00:16:45,760 --> 00:16:47,840 Speaker 3: a mock draft until like r right after the season 358 00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:51,600 Speaker 3: is over, when Tie struggles started to pick up. But 359 00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:54,880 Speaker 3: you know, Tie probably was. He wasn't a crazy thought 360 00:16:54,880 --> 00:16:56,600 Speaker 3: as like the fifth pick in the draft at some 361 00:16:56,640 --> 00:17:00,200 Speaker 3: point during the college football season. Now it's all right, 362 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:02,440 Speaker 3: like does Tie even go in the first round? He's 363 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:04,720 Speaker 3: the player that's going to define the night. I believe 364 00:17:05,080 --> 00:17:08,080 Speaker 3: for obvious reasons. He's a quarterback, and there are teams that, 365 00:17:08,200 --> 00:17:11,560 Speaker 3: of course are in that quarterback market. It's it's hard 366 00:17:11,560 --> 00:17:14,240 Speaker 3: to get an answer because you know, one of the 367 00:17:14,280 --> 00:17:16,320 Speaker 3: realities of the draft and talking to people around the 368 00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:19,639 Speaker 3: NFL is that you know, people that don't need a 369 00:17:19,760 --> 00:17:23,000 Speaker 3: quarterback are going to be pretty honest about the quarterback 370 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:27,160 Speaker 3: of valuations. Teams that do need a quarterback are going 371 00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:30,120 Speaker 3: to be honest about the quarterback of valuations. But they're 372 00:17:30,119 --> 00:17:32,480 Speaker 3: also going to acknowledge that even if, like we're not 373 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:36,520 Speaker 3: totally sold on this player at this position, you can't 374 00:17:36,600 --> 00:17:39,640 Speaker 3: risk it. So yeah, it may sound good to say like, well, 375 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:41,760 Speaker 3: we've got tie ranked as a late first and we 376 00:17:41,800 --> 00:17:43,919 Speaker 3: think most people around the NFL do as well, so 377 00:17:43,920 --> 00:17:46,160 Speaker 3: maybe we we'll wait until the beginning of the second round. 378 00:17:46,440 --> 00:17:48,600 Speaker 3: Just takes one team, one team would jump ahead of you, 379 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:51,520 Speaker 3: and one team to make you regret trying to be patient. 380 00:17:52,240 --> 00:17:55,119 Speaker 3: The Giants kind of beautifully navigated this last year with 381 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:57,280 Speaker 3: Jackson Dart. They had their cake and ate it too 382 00:17:57,400 --> 00:17:59,720 Speaker 3: with Abdul Carter at three and then Jackson Dart at 383 00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:04,199 Speaker 3: twenty twenty four twenty five. That's hard to bank on 384 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:06,679 Speaker 3: every single year. I give the Giants credit for the 385 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:08,760 Speaker 3: way they went about it or why they executed it 386 00:18:08,840 --> 00:18:11,160 Speaker 3: last year, but there might be a team that's saying 387 00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:13,800 Speaker 3: to themselves like, can we pull the Giants of twenty 388 00:18:13,840 --> 00:18:16,679 Speaker 3: twenty five and twenty twenty six, And there might be 389 00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:19,480 Speaker 3: somebody else that's says, we like Tigh enough that we're 390 00:18:19,520 --> 00:18:21,320 Speaker 3: just going to take them field. 391 00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:23,359 Speaker 5: How do you feel about people who do mock drafts 392 00:18:23,400 --> 00:18:26,080 Speaker 5: and then in their mock drafts. They have projected trades 393 00:18:26,119 --> 00:18:26,640 Speaker 5: in them. 394 00:18:26,840 --> 00:18:28,560 Speaker 1: Wait you know Field has that. 395 00:18:29,720 --> 00:18:31,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, every once in a while, throw a trade in there. 396 00:18:31,320 --> 00:18:32,440 Speaker 1: How do you feel about yourself? 397 00:18:32,520 --> 00:18:36,280 Speaker 3: I mean yeah, yeah, well guys, I can do it 398 00:18:36,359 --> 00:18:39,840 Speaker 3: out the trade Taylor feels like. 399 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:41,280 Speaker 1: It's a bit much. I mean, there's no way to 400 00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:44,720 Speaker 1: predicted trade. But if he predicts it exactly right, Wow, 401 00:18:44,880 --> 00:18:47,080 Speaker 1: god yeah, double, that's right. Yeah. 402 00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:49,399 Speaker 3: I will tell everybody and their mom about it. So 403 00:18:50,560 --> 00:18:52,280 Speaker 3: I do think that, like it's important for me. I've 404 00:18:52,320 --> 00:18:54,480 Speaker 3: seen some some and this is what happens when you 405 00:18:54,520 --> 00:18:57,720 Speaker 3: go on on Twitter. It's you know, off oftentimes burning 406 00:18:57,760 --> 00:19:01,200 Speaker 3: brain cells, but people getting frustrated. Too many mock drafts, 407 00:19:01,560 --> 00:19:05,960 Speaker 3: unrealistic mock drafts. They're entertainment, aren't they? Like the mock 408 00:19:06,040 --> 00:19:08,320 Speaker 3: drafts are not going to influence like the the the 409 00:19:08,440 --> 00:19:10,080 Speaker 3: Jets at too, are not going to make a pick 410 00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:13,720 Speaker 3: because the way that mel kiper Junior or whoever it 411 00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:16,320 Speaker 3: is that you love most in the draft industry forecasting 412 00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:17,560 Speaker 3: it right, They're going to make the pick they think 413 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:18,600 Speaker 3: is the best pick. That's what I mean. 414 00:19:18,600 --> 00:19:20,800 Speaker 1: Mel had number one overall last year. 415 00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:23,720 Speaker 3: I go, right, So like these things, like you know, 416 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:26,120 Speaker 3: they're going to do what they want to do. It's 417 00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:29,040 Speaker 3: for entertainment purposes. And in other sports, like I will 418 00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:31,840 Speaker 3: read a mock draft, uh, I mean even for the NFL. 419 00:19:32,080 --> 00:19:34,680 Speaker 3: In a lot of cases, I would read mock drafts. 420 00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:36,879 Speaker 3: The other thing I would say is, and this is 421 00:19:36,960 --> 00:19:39,560 Speaker 3: my opinion, And there might be people who have the 422 00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:41,960 Speaker 3: same rule that I do at ESPN or otherwise that 423 00:19:41,960 --> 00:19:45,280 Speaker 3: feel very differently on this. I do take you know, 424 00:19:45,320 --> 00:19:48,159 Speaker 3: you take some level of pride in trying to be 425 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:53,200 Speaker 3: as predictive as possible with mocks. It just takes one 426 00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:55,800 Speaker 3: thing to happen early in the mock for everything that 427 00:19:55,840 --> 00:19:59,479 Speaker 3: you think is reasonable to go. I think we have 428 00:19:59,560 --> 00:20:02,000 Speaker 3: made started to Yeah, I think you sort of maybe 429 00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:04,320 Speaker 3: to gravitate a little bit too much towards trying to 430 00:20:04,359 --> 00:20:08,240 Speaker 3: get every pick right. Yes, and more like I think 431 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:10,280 Speaker 3: to me, I've always felt like where I would let's 432 00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:12,840 Speaker 3: take the most pride is that I don't know who 433 00:20:12,840 --> 00:20:14,480 Speaker 3: the Jets are gonna take it too. I think it 434 00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:16,000 Speaker 3: will be RVL Reese or David Bailey. 435 00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:16,440 Speaker 1: I think. 436 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:19,560 Speaker 3: But if I predict David Bailey and then I have 437 00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:23,040 Speaker 3: Rvel Reese going to the Cardinals and then the Jets 438 00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:25,080 Speaker 3: d up taking Rvel Reees. But the Cardinals don't like 439 00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:27,600 Speaker 3: David Bailey, then the mock draft's gonna like fall apart 440 00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:31,040 Speaker 3: right there, right, yes, right where I find my job 441 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:34,359 Speaker 3: to at least more fulfilling. Is Hey, the Jets submit 442 00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:36,920 Speaker 3: the card they take Rvel rees Field. What are your 443 00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:39,720 Speaker 3: thoughts on Rvel Reves fitting with the Jets? Bam, we 444 00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:42,280 Speaker 3: fire away. Hey, the Cardinals at number three, they decided 445 00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:44,120 Speaker 3: to take Jeremiah love Field. What do you think about 446 00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:47,240 Speaker 3: this pick? Bam, we go from there. But instead it's 447 00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:49,359 Speaker 3: we get so excited about like, well, you know, se 448 00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:52,240 Speaker 3: Gott's nailed fifteen of his thirty two first round picks. 449 00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:55,239 Speaker 3: Like I would tell you candidly, is that like there 450 00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:58,160 Speaker 3: were picks that I got right in the first round 451 00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:01,040 Speaker 3: last year that we're just guesses, right, you're just forecasting, right, 452 00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:03,280 Speaker 3: Like I can't tell you that, Like my twenty fifth 453 00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:06,760 Speaker 3: overall selection in last year's draft, whoever that was, was 454 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:10,640 Speaker 3: because I had deeply sourced information that the Houston Texans 455 00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:11,359 Speaker 3: were plenty to this. 456 00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:13,920 Speaker 1: No, it's just players, man. 457 00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:17,359 Speaker 3: The Texans probably need a pass rusher. I'm just making 458 00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:19,480 Speaker 3: this up. A pass rusher, and I gave them a 459 00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:21,800 Speaker 3: pass rusher who I thought would go around that range 460 00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:24,760 Speaker 3: and hopefully you get fortunate more often than not. But 461 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:27,359 Speaker 3: so Taylor, I'm okay with the trades, and I'm also 462 00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:30,720 Speaker 3: okay with like mock trash being wrong, Like, you know, 463 00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:33,159 Speaker 3: am I trying to provide you insight or am I 464 00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:37,679 Speaker 3: trying to, you know, predict the unpredictable, because I think. 465 00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:41,280 Speaker 1: Like I want to see where my team's going exactly 466 00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:43,480 Speaker 1: what I'm doing. He's players. 467 00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:46,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's not trying to predict what team is going 468 00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:47,080 Speaker 2: to take what player. 469 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:50,919 Speaker 1: He's just ranking the players, right, No, I get it, yes, no, 470 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:52,200 Speaker 1: But I don't think the audience does. 471 00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:54,280 Speaker 2: I think they actually know field are trying to predict 472 00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:55,320 Speaker 2: the entire draft. 473 00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:55,800 Speaker 1: I don't way. 474 00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:58,119 Speaker 3: I think there are people that, like, I mean, listen, 475 00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:01,199 Speaker 3: I'm not I'm not blaming anybody for doing this, but like, 476 00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:02,440 Speaker 3: there are you know a lot of sites that are 477 00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:05,159 Speaker 3: like tracking mock drafts and by all means track my 478 00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:07,679 Speaker 3: mock drafts like this year, like and if I have 479 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:10,840 Speaker 3: the most accurate mock draft, if you think I'm above 480 00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:13,359 Speaker 3: telling the world that I was the most accurate monck 481 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:16,359 Speaker 3: draft that you're at if you're goddamn mind. But my 482 00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:20,880 Speaker 3: hope is that where we really shine is Hey, Jeremiah 483 00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:23,000 Speaker 3: Love goes seven to the Commanders. I just had them 484 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:25,240 Speaker 3: going third of the Cardinals. This is already inaccurate, but 485 00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:27,960 Speaker 3: here's what I think about it and why I like it. 486 00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:30,040 Speaker 3: Or hey, Caleb down has just made it at the 487 00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:32,640 Speaker 3: Cowboys at twelve. That to me is the best pick 488 00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:33,960 Speaker 3: in the first twelve so far. 489 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:35,640 Speaker 1: Stick outs here. 490 00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:37,919 Speaker 2: The tournament is here right now, New FanDuel customers can 491 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:39,960 Speaker 2: get up the three hundred dollars back in bonus bets 492 00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:43,080 Speaker 2: every day for ten days. 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We had Mark 524 00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:28,040 Speaker 5: hakman On and I had an idea to save the 525 00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:29,680 Speaker 5: NBA and fixed tanking. 526 00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:33,040 Speaker 1: Oh Jay, it's called bank the tank. 527 00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:38,400 Speaker 5: So in this scenario, let's go back to twenty twenty four, 528 00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:43,440 Speaker 5: the Hawks get the number one pick. It's Zachary Richoche. Yes, 529 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:46,880 Speaker 5: they say, we don't want this. We forfeit our pick 530 00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:49,480 Speaker 5: for the year. We're banking the tank. They get a 531 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:52,520 Speaker 5: briefcase that says bank the tank on it. Next year, 532 00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:55,879 Speaker 5: the MAVs are picking one. The pick is in the 533 00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:58,880 Speaker 5: commissioner's going up to the stage, but the Hawks come 534 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:02,280 Speaker 5: running down with their briefcase. They're cashing in their bank 535 00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:02,720 Speaker 5: the tank. 536 00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:06,000 Speaker 1: They have a tank in the bank. Yes, was this was. 537 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:11,600 Speaker 3: This Paul of s triple h currently year. That sounds 538 00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:15,040 Speaker 3: very money in the bank. He takes swings man like 539 00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:17,520 Speaker 3: eight days away or whatever it is. We're fifteen days 540 00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:18,440 Speaker 3: awa from WrestleMania. 541 00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:18,960 Speaker 1: This could be. 542 00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:22,120 Speaker 3: I can't I've lost track. April is a great month 543 00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:25,040 Speaker 3: for just like sports entertainment in general. Playoffs obviously, the 544 00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:29,359 Speaker 3: draft masters I like it. I would just say no. 545 00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:32,760 Speaker 4: This is you have so many follow up questions you 546 00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:34,520 Speaker 4: just don't want to ask. 547 00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:36,720 Speaker 1: Listen, you ten duys of a guy you don't like 548 00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:38,840 Speaker 1: the it's a bad idea. Let's just be honest with me, 549 00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:39,320 Speaker 1: all right. 550 00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:43,640 Speaker 3: So I do believe this. I do believe that there 551 00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:46,480 Speaker 3: is somewhat of the perfect storm taking place right now. 552 00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:51,080 Speaker 3: It's we've had some We've had the introduction of this 553 00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:54,360 Speaker 3: dramatic sorry here we go down the NBA rabbit hole 554 00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:57,640 Speaker 3: once again. We had the introduction of this dramatic sweeping 555 00:25:57,800 --> 00:26:01,800 Speaker 3: changes within the CBA right the aprils and all the 556 00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:03,800 Speaker 3: rules that come on, the restrictions that come along with 557 00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:07,119 Speaker 3: the aprons. Teams are still figuring out how to operate 558 00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:10,760 Speaker 3: within the aprons. We also have what feels like this 559 00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:15,320 Speaker 3: potentially you know, league altering draft with somewhere between six 560 00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:18,080 Speaker 3: and eight great players, like guys that would not be 561 00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:21,040 Speaker 3: consolation prizes that might go top three in other drafts. 562 00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:23,439 Speaker 1: Over and yeah you think. 563 00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:28,080 Speaker 3: So, yeah, I continue, Yeah, we have some guys at 564 00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:30,520 Speaker 3: the top though, like you know, Aj and Darren definitely 565 00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:32,840 Speaker 3: you know, have the chance to really, you know, change 566 00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:35,919 Speaker 3: your franchise quickly. We also have the backdrop of like 567 00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:38,280 Speaker 3: back to back crappy drafts coming around the corner again 568 00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:41,479 Speaker 3: listening to people that do this for a living. This 569 00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:43,000 Speaker 3: is what they say, is that, like the next couple 570 00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:45,159 Speaker 3: of years are going to be pretty lean. So you 571 00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:47,919 Speaker 3: might see over the next couple of seasons NBA teams 572 00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:50,640 Speaker 3: saying all right, you know, like the Wizards have made 573 00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:52,720 Speaker 3: it clear, this is our last crack at this, the 574 00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:54,760 Speaker 3: Jazz have made it clear, this is our last crack 575 00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:57,440 Speaker 3: at this. Like there are other teams that I think 576 00:26:57,520 --> 00:26:59,959 Speaker 3: will view themselves, you know, obviously the Pacers or take 577 00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:02,439 Speaker 3: a gap year with with Tyree's Caliburton, Like, there are 578 00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:05,359 Speaker 3: teams that are just doing this very much. By twenty 579 00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:08,320 Speaker 3: twenty five to twenty twenty six, design and next year, 580 00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:11,119 Speaker 3: the number of teams that are just completely uninterested in 581 00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:14,959 Speaker 3: playing basketball is going to be way way lower. Like 582 00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:19,000 Speaker 3: I just the Kings, probably the Kings and the Bulls, right, 583 00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:22,600 Speaker 3: like the games the Bulls. Yeah, it's it's it's a 584 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:25,400 Speaker 3: slim it's a slim list, man. Those Kings really need 585 00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:28,600 Speaker 3: it though, So I do think that, like, yes, it's 586 00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:31,000 Speaker 3: been it's it's like ridiculous. I was looking at the 587 00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:34,160 Speaker 3: lines for some of the games tonight. It's like there's 588 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:38,919 Speaker 3: like lines nearing twenty points. I think the favored by 589 00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:41,280 Speaker 3: eighteen over the Bucks eighteen and a half or something like. 590 00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:44,240 Speaker 3: That's again at the you know, Yannis, but like, what 591 00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:48,879 Speaker 3: a ridiculous thing. And but I also think that a 592 00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:52,040 Speaker 3: year from now we're gonna get the it's the perfect storm. 593 00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:54,600 Speaker 3: And some of the measures that I've heard and some 594 00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:57,000 Speaker 3: of the proposals, even from the NBA, sound to me 595 00:27:57,119 --> 00:28:00,159 Speaker 3: as a fan, a little bit outlandish. I would By 596 00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:01,640 Speaker 3: the way, I just want to say this, I would 597 00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:05,800 Speaker 3: love nothing more than feedback on this podcast to be 598 00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:10,920 Speaker 3: exclusively about my basketball takes and mostly being like those 599 00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:14,840 Speaker 3: were awful, stick to footballball whatever, like decent, you know, 600 00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:17,040 Speaker 3: not the worst, not the best. But if people respond 601 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:19,679 Speaker 3: and they're like that was dog crap basketball thoughts, I 602 00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:20,960 Speaker 3: will consider that a success. 603 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:23,240 Speaker 1: Now feel the NBA Draft lane is wide open. 604 00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:26,400 Speaker 2: No offense to those who are doing it now both 605 00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:28,320 Speaker 2: it's my podcast. 606 00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:30,000 Speaker 1: I own all of it, and I'm giving it zero stars. 607 00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:31,680 Speaker 1: This is awful. Go ahead, Taylor. 608 00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:35,439 Speaker 5: So I forgot a key note in bank the Tank. 609 00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:39,720 Speaker 1: No, we're back, We're back. 610 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:43,200 Speaker 5: Every win you get is a chance out of Bank 611 00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:44,360 Speaker 5: the Tank blocker. 612 00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:48,240 Speaker 1: So if they hadn't even heard. 613 00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:51,200 Speaker 5: Yes, if the MAVs do a good a good enough 614 00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:53,400 Speaker 5: job winning during the season and they still get the 615 00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:58,240 Speaker 5: number one pick, they might have cured enough lottery chances 616 00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:00,640 Speaker 5: to block the tank almost. 617 00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:05,160 Speaker 3: Like a like a like a a card that you draw. Okay, 618 00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:09,960 Speaker 3: so yeah, bank the tank might be a one. I 619 00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:11,680 Speaker 3: do like to make the tank a little bit, but 620 00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:14,240 Speaker 3: you know, the like the more tentacles to it to me, 621 00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:17,320 Speaker 3: generally makes the idea less plausible. Like I want a 622 00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:22,600 Speaker 3: straightforward tanker, a tank reform. I want like, hey, whatever, 623 00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:26,000 Speaker 3: flat and lottery odds. That's it. You don't make the 624 00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:27,320 Speaker 3: playoffs flat lottery odds. 625 00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:29,880 Speaker 4: Everybody gets Where does the briefcase come in in your scenario? 626 00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:34,800 Speaker 1: Though? You too? Mean Jesus Christ? So how for Field? 627 00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:38,040 Speaker 5: A win for him is if people say his NBA 628 00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:40,680 Speaker 5: opinions are bad. A win for me is if Field 629 00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:44,280 Speaker 5: could go back on ESPN and just pitch to somebody 630 00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:45,560 Speaker 5: bank the tank. 631 00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:48,760 Speaker 2: It's a bad idea. 632 00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:50,600 Speaker 1: I would have done that for you. 633 00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:52,600 Speaker 4: I would have done that at the end of around 634 00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:54,160 Speaker 4: the horn for you. 635 00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:58,040 Speaker 1: Times timelines are different. Absolutely, you did do it. 636 00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:00,040 Speaker 2: I mean, bring about the thought of dread just like 637 00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:00,960 Speaker 2: I did. 638 00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:04,320 Speaker 3: I said this I think already. I can't remember if 639 00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:07,760 Speaker 3: we were recording or not. But Kuiper Yeah, dropped a 640 00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:11,720 Speaker 3: selling voc reference on the middle of NFL Draft Daily 641 00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:12,680 Speaker 3: on Thursday. 642 00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:13,400 Speaker 1: Oh show forget. 643 00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:16,360 Speaker 3: I want to talk about tank, you know, Bank the tank, right, yeah, 644 00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:17,640 Speaker 3: I'll talk about Bank the tank. 645 00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:20,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, but bring up a good idea. 646 00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:22,960 Speaker 4: Well, he did say something earlier that I haven't stopped 647 00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:26,920 Speaker 4: stopped thinking about. Field used the word doozy, and I couldn't. 648 00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:29,000 Speaker 4: I was just where does that word come from? And 649 00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:31,600 Speaker 4: apparently it's just it's a very disappointing answer. The most 650 00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:34,880 Speaker 4: accepted theory is that daisy used to be to described, 651 00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:37,360 Speaker 4: used to be used to describe something excellent, and it 652 00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:38,600 Speaker 4: was just altered over time. 653 00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:40,400 Speaker 1: I guess by lazy mouths or whatnot. 654 00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:44,400 Speaker 3: Oh really, I I actually don't even know, like when 655 00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:47,160 Speaker 3: I first heard the word doozy or why I've incorporated 656 00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:48,240 Speaker 3: into my vocabulary. 657 00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:49,000 Speaker 1: I probably is. 658 00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:51,800 Speaker 4: One theory which should interest our Italian friend here, Taylor. 659 00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:55,120 Speaker 4: Another theory suggested comes from the name of famed Italian 660 00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:59,920 Speaker 4: actress Eleanora Duce, whose performances were deemed exceptional. 661 00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:07,280 Speaker 3: Taylor ring a Bell never heard of him, of Coursepond 662 00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:09,640 Speaker 3: it no longer no longer pies on. 663 00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:12,400 Speaker 2: If I may just three quick questions before I get 664 00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:14,880 Speaker 2: you out of here, Max Crosby, will he still be 665 00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:16,760 Speaker 2: a Raider by the time we get to the draft 666 00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:17,800 Speaker 2: or by the time we get to. 667 00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:18,400 Speaker 1: The regular season? 668 00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:20,680 Speaker 3: It's your podcast now, I think I think Max is 669 00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:22,760 Speaker 3: a grazier Raider for twenty twenty six. I think the best, 670 00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:24,960 Speaker 3: by the way, best possible outcome for him and the 671 00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:29,120 Speaker 3: Raiders is play this season, play great, and then have 672 00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:31,840 Speaker 3: the leverage to either say, we still have one of 673 00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:33,640 Speaker 3: the best players in the NFL on our defense and 674 00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:36,200 Speaker 3: we're getting closer to winning. Keep him for twenty twenty 675 00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:39,200 Speaker 3: seven and beyond, or hey, he has shown that not 676 00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:41,040 Speaker 3: only is he still a great player, but he's healthy. 677 00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:45,840 Speaker 3: Anti up because desperation starts at the top of the 678 00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:49,000 Speaker 3: off season and then it starts to kind of teams 679 00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:51,520 Speaker 3: do things in free agency in the draft, and they 680 00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:55,280 Speaker 3: talk themselves into being closer and closer to you know, 681 00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:59,360 Speaker 3: sort of responsible and their goals and their off season 682 00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:02,000 Speaker 3: plans and they ah, you know, but well, you know, 683 00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:06,200 Speaker 3: the cap and assets and stuff like that. Get me 684 00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:09,640 Speaker 3: back to like, give me to late February of twenty 685 00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:12,560 Speaker 3: twenty seven, and there are gonna be some desperate teams, 686 00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:15,640 Speaker 3: teams that once again came up short, and there's a 687 00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:17,360 Speaker 3: lot One of the cool things we have right now 688 00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:19,600 Speaker 3: in the NFL is that because there are a lot 689 00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:22,960 Speaker 3: of great quarterbacks and a lot of really good teams 690 00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:25,840 Speaker 3: with solid quarterbacks, a lot of teams go into this 691 00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:28,480 Speaker 3: year thinking they like they should win. Like if if 692 00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:32,600 Speaker 3: you're a Bills or a Ravens fan, or right Patriots 693 00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:36,240 Speaker 3: fan or a Bengals fan, you go through the that's 694 00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:39,560 Speaker 3: just like four teams in the AFC North and East alone, 695 00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:41,680 Speaker 3: like if they don't win the championship next year, they're 696 00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:43,920 Speaker 3: gonna be like, that was a disappointing season, right, that's 697 00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:46,760 Speaker 3: the level they have reached with because of their quarterbacks 698 00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:51,480 Speaker 3: in those cases, and the more swings and misses you have, 699 00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:53,840 Speaker 3: the more likely you are to do something desperate. 700 00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:57,280 Speaker 2: The Raiders signing of Kirk Cousins is that the perfect 701 00:32:57,320 --> 00:32:59,600 Speaker 2: guy to kind of showman those of the ropes here 702 00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:01,360 Speaker 2: because he's in the Business Hall of Fame. 703 00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:04,480 Speaker 3: That guy, I mean just first ballot, like the actually 704 00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:06,440 Speaker 3: the wing, one of the wings of the Hall of 705 00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:13,600 Speaker 3: Fame named it is to be serious for a second. 706 00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:16,320 Speaker 3: It actually is the perfect perfect person for this. 707 00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:16,959 Speaker 1: It really is. 708 00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:20,360 Speaker 3: Yes, I think it's perfect. One of the quarterback room 709 00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:22,920 Speaker 3: can be so sacred like that you have to have 710 00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:26,360 Speaker 3: the right pieces playing the right roles. And to have 711 00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:29,760 Speaker 3: a bridge quarterback, it has to be a player who 712 00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:33,080 Speaker 3: is there knowing that his time is borrowed right and 713 00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:36,000 Speaker 3: that that time could come to an end. Fernando Mendoza 714 00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:39,040 Speaker 3: could be named the starting quarterback August twenty seventh this year, 715 00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:42,880 Speaker 3: or it might be the end of September, might be Halloween, 716 00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:45,800 Speaker 3: could be the last five games of the season. But 717 00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:49,120 Speaker 3: it's going to be when Kirk either starts to struggle 718 00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:52,800 Speaker 3: or Fernando is just that damn good. So Kirk gets 719 00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:54,880 Speaker 3: what he wants, which is an opportunity to start for 720 00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:58,800 Speaker 3: some period of time. He gets another eleven point three 721 00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:02,080 Speaker 3: million dollars guaranteed from the Raiders or I guess, and 722 00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:04,560 Speaker 3: then eight point seven from the Falcons, but an extra 723 00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:09,160 Speaker 3: ten million guaranteed. And he knows Klint Kubiak. And one 724 00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:12,000 Speaker 3: of the things about Fernando is at Indiana, and this 725 00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:14,359 Speaker 3: he doesn't call the place, but Fernando at Indiana played 726 00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:18,760 Speaker 3: an offense that was more basic than what the offense 727 00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:21,160 Speaker 3: for the Raiders is going to be. Kirk has played 728 00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:23,000 Speaker 3: and Kirk, as you guys all know, like Kirk is 729 00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:27,160 Speaker 3: not this superior talent physically, right, Kirk was never the 730 00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:29,920 Speaker 3: fastest guy or had the strongest arm. He was the 731 00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:32,320 Speaker 3: guy that won. And he talked about this very candidly 732 00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:35,840 Speaker 3: on Netflix show the Netflix show Quarterback, where he's like, 733 00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:40,000 Speaker 3: I put everything I have into my preparation each week 734 00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:43,719 Speaker 3: because I know that, like my superpower is if I 735 00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:46,080 Speaker 3: can have a general idea of what's going to happen 736 00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:48,759 Speaker 3: once the ball is snapped, I can put the ball 737 00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:51,160 Speaker 3: where it needs to be more often than not. And 738 00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:53,440 Speaker 3: with Fernando when he played an offense, it was simpler 739 00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:56,160 Speaker 3: than what he's going to run. Now, learning from somebody 740 00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:59,240 Speaker 3: who is the ultimate processor and Kirk Cousins, who's less 741 00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:02,479 Speaker 3: talented then Fernando, I think will be a really really 742 00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:03,560 Speaker 3: beneficial thing for him. 743 00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:07,600 Speaker 2: What'd you make of the Tim McMann Is Jeremy Fowler 744 00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:10,960 Speaker 2: deep dive into the Eagles here and could we possibly 745 00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:14,360 Speaker 2: be looking at Jalen Hurts's final season with the Eagles. 746 00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:16,640 Speaker 3: I don't dismiss those sort of things, like I don't 747 00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:18,840 Speaker 3: have there are there's some people that are like, you know, hey, 748 00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:22,040 Speaker 3: this is this is uh, this is people. This is 749 00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:25,200 Speaker 3: people with agendas trying to grind axes from inside the 750 00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:29,560 Speaker 3: Eagles organization who probably aren't there anymore. That's not how 751 00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:34,200 Speaker 3: Jeremy and Tim Roll and Jalen like. I don't think 752 00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:37,280 Speaker 3: there's any mystery that like things were not hunky dory 753 00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:40,840 Speaker 3: last year compared to a typical post super Bowl season, 754 00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:45,839 Speaker 3: right Like, there's usually some grace period where it's, hey, 755 00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:47,960 Speaker 3: we may go down, but we're going down swinging, and 756 00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:50,160 Speaker 3: we've accomplished a ton together and we've got a chance 757 00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:54,040 Speaker 3: to bounce back. It's a grueling exercise to try to 758 00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:56,359 Speaker 3: go back to back Philly. It felt like there were 759 00:35:56,640 --> 00:36:01,040 Speaker 3: like some discontent individuals by the middle of the season. 760 00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:05,279 Speaker 3: AJ Brown clearly discontent. I still lean towards him not 761 00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:08,440 Speaker 3: being with Philadelphia then being with Philadelphia this year. I 762 00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:11,359 Speaker 3: just I don't have information. I just personally think it's 763 00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:13,400 Speaker 3: a j Brown will be a Patriot. It seems like 764 00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:15,719 Speaker 3: there's way too much I mean, does it feel that 765 00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:21,120 Speaker 3: way the Eagles committing to Aj you know, have. 766 00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:23,000 Speaker 2: The Eagles taking a wide receiver in the first round. 767 00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:25,239 Speaker 3: Yes, that's right, and then we'll we'll probably learn by 768 00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:28,640 Speaker 3: the way, about the Eagles plans for a J Brown 769 00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:31,400 Speaker 3: the draft, because they won't trade aj until after June first, 770 00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:33,359 Speaker 3: not to get into salary cap weeds, but it makes 771 00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:36,120 Speaker 3: more sense then. So if the Eagles draft the wide 772 00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:39,160 Speaker 3: receiver at twenty three, they're going to spend a month 773 00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:41,960 Speaker 3: after that at answering questions about whether they will trade 774 00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:42,759 Speaker 3: AJ Brown or not. 775 00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:47,160 Speaker 2: We appreciate the time. Check it out. His mock draft 776 00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:49,719 Speaker 2: is available right now on espn dot com First Draft. 777 00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:50,960 Speaker 1: The podcast is wonderful. 778 00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:54,160 Speaker 2: It's him, Mike Greenberg, and our Fred melkiper Junior. 779 00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:56,600 Speaker 1: You are too old to be sitting in an office 780 00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:58,279 Speaker 1: like that. I mean, you were too young to be 781 00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:02,520 Speaker 1: sitting on office like too old. Dammit, you try to right. 782 00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:04,680 Speaker 2: How old do you feel to I mean, I am 783 00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:07,640 Speaker 2: thirty eight, Yeah, but you're an old thirty eight My man. 784 00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:11,239 Speaker 1: Wow, he knows he is. He doesn't know. It's not 785 00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:13,160 Speaker 1: even a wow, he knows he is. 786 00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:16,120 Speaker 3: The problem is the problem is I've got young kids 787 00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:18,840 Speaker 3: and a dog and this is the only room in 788 00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:22,360 Speaker 3: the house. It has two doors that not only shut 789 00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:22,839 Speaker 3: but lock. 790 00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:25,479 Speaker 1: Yes, Oh wow, you know. 791 00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:28,879 Speaker 3: So I've got the capacity here to prevent some sort 792 00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:29,480 Speaker 3: of interruption. 793 00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:31,600 Speaker 1: Yes, I like that. Feel like if you want to 794 00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:34,120 Speaker 1: work on an NBA draft, you and me. You called me, 795 00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:35,480 Speaker 1: I've got takes. 796 00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:36,200 Speaker 3: I've got takes. 797 00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:39,279 Speaker 2: I promise you, Right, Taylor, do me a favorite next 798 00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:41,400 Speaker 2: time we have field on to not invite Israel.