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Speaker 1: They are around the NFL podcast Wishes You were Cooler?

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Speaker 1: From the Chris Westling podcast studio. It's around the NFL.

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Speaker 1: I am Dan Hansis.

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Speaker 2: I think you're pretty cool. Listener Mark Cecler Greg Rosenthal says.

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Speaker 3: I'd imagine there was a few people that heard that

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Speaker 3: and felt that it was aimed at them appropriately.

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Speaker 4: Right, It couldn't be talking about us, though. The Jacket

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Speaker 4: Bros are coming strong to Jack Brows cool.

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Speaker 1: Dad's Jack Bros. You guys are total Jack Bros. That's

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Speaker 1: the way I look at it. That's a good nickname.

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Speaker 3: I don't want it, the clothing thing to become a

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Speaker 3: like a day by day insurrection, because I just want

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Speaker 3: to wear this sometimes just because I don't want to

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Speaker 3: wear other stuff.

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Speaker 1: When Levi comes out, though, there's a different cess energy.

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Speaker 1: We've talked about this. You got the when faded Denim

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Speaker 1: Levi comes out, look Out rock and rolls in the building.

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Speaker 5: You've issued that they were morning for that.

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Speaker 1: I want to say before we get into everything, including

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Speaker 1: a little fly on the Wall and NFL facilities here

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Speaker 1: in the off season. Some news I declare vengeance and

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Speaker 1: it's been a while on late week news, dumps in

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Speaker 1: the off season. How dare you Arizona Cardinals on so

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Speaker 1: many levels, release DeAndre Hopkins after we complete taping Thursday

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Speaker 1: and just let us steal on our own mess Thursday

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Speaker 1: afternoon all through Friday through.

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Speaker 2: A holiday weekend. Are you kidding me?

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Speaker 1: Vengeance declared you do it on Monday morning, nine am

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they're not understanding how media works. I know that personally.

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Speaker 3: I'm with you on this. On the Vengeance streak, we

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Speaker 3: found out as we you know, just after we wrapped

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Speaker 3: and I thought, there's a world here. We're going to

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Speaker 3: say this is such big news that you know, circle

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Speaker 3: the wagons, go back, get back on screen Yard you

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Speaker 3: were worried about that text, absolutely, just like this could

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Speaker 3: bubble into more.

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Speaker 1: Work, like the guys that did the Roquan Smith emergency podcast.

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Speaker 2: This could be a situation.

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Speaker 4: Well, it's the off season, and I don't like stewing

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Speaker 4: in my own juices, but sometimes it's it's good for

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Speaker 4: the juices.

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Speaker 6: Stewing your own.

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Speaker 1: Juice somehow even grosser, but so just be mindful of

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Speaker 1: that NFL transaction wire. We're all in this together ultimately,

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Speaker 1: and we don't like getting scooped.

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Speaker 5: Oh, it's unrewarding.

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Speaker 4: I actually conducted multiple podcasts that I wasn't recording, but

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Speaker 4: I just had to like get the juices out, get

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Speaker 4: it out. You just talked DeAndre Hopkins by myself ring

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Speaker 4: out the underpants in my garage that it's not worthy.

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Speaker 5: A little strange and lonely life. Greg.

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Speaker 1: Yes, so we are going to get into all that

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Speaker 1: because that is timing aside, a very nice morsel of

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Speaker 1: information and speculation to get into around suddenly a number

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Speaker 2: But first, yes, we're going to get to that and

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Speaker 2: everything else in the news.

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Speaker 4: Shot up Murray out of the pocket seven seconds, six seconds, Murray's.

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Speaker 2: Hopkins, No the hell.

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Speaker 1: Mary from Kyler Murray and what a play by Murray,

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Speaker 1: uh to DeAndre Hopkins to beat the Bills in happier

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Speaker 1: and you could greg, you could follow, and we're gonna

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Speaker 4: But they said, if this guy's got to keep going

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Speaker 4: So if some team wanted to step up and actually

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Speaker 1: However, I think it is fair to give this Arizona

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Speaker 4: And I think the Cardinals this offseason, with their new

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Speaker 3: And there were teams interested. I mean, I think that

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Speaker 1: And then your boy Greggy, your old boss Florio did

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Speaker 3: That's the thing they did business wise, which you just mentioned,

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Speaker 3: Sure, like so this is a disaster win waiting they

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Speaker 6: You know there is a partial owner there.

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Speaker 4: The rules of the NFL are that you can't be

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Speaker 3: A surgery timeline was weird the first Yeah, they said, oh,

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Speaker 2: The advance been.

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Speaker 4: Playing the Super Bowl. I think that's what banged them.

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Speaker 1: Now, so you were going to bench rock party on

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Speaker 2: It's going to come up a little bit later.

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Speaker 1: Finally in the news John Gruden, Greg, do you remember

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Speaker 4: One of the central figures I would say, of this

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Speaker 4: I like me bringing him up as if the audience

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Speaker 2: So you never know. People.

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Speaker 1: Probably Gruden got run out of the league during in

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Speaker 2: After he came out of retirement.

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Speaker 1: There are the Raiders again because of some emails that

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Speaker 2: It, but it was.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, but sponsorship usually follows when I'm.

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Speaker 1: I think they did a vote. It was like seven

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Speaker 5: You're going.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 4: Kudos to the to the lady in the corner who

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Speaker 6: They're like, actually, that'd be great.

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Speaker 6: Have you once a week? Have you shopped there? I

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Speaker 4: Is it a clothing stores that sell those dolls? The

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Speaker 1: Well when I I looked in, I just saw out

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Speaker 5: Really, I mean I mostly saw we'll do some digging on.

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Speaker 4: You know, sneakers, some you know, shirts, sweatshirts, whatnot. I

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Speaker 6: That's good vibe to the whole Mini mom.

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Speaker 5: Can I just sorry?

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Speaker 3: People are lining up for for dolls, for figures.

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Speaker 1: What kind of what does the they are? It's a

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Speaker 1: Gruden has come out of hiding, uh and the Saints

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I find it.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I get why it's happening from a football angle.

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Speaker 3: I find it interesting that a year ago the Saints

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Speaker 3: I always I find it also interesting because I spent

442
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Speaker 3: most of the car Raiders gruden tenure not really believing

443
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Speaker 3: that Gruden was all in on Derek Carr.

444
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Speaker 4: True, I think it's just Dennis Allen doing a solid

445
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Speaker 4: yeah for a guy who reportedly wants to get back

446
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Speaker 4: into the league, and this is a little bit of

447
00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:13,120
Speaker 4: a trial ball doing how much blowback do we get?

448
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Speaker 4: I asked a little bit just I'm curious if the

449
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Speaker 4: Saints would hire him. It doesn't sound like they're hiring

450
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Speaker 4: him necessarily but it's just someone who Gruden, who clearly

451
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Speaker 4: wants back in, and this is a friend of his

452
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Speaker 4: giving him a solid I mean, Greg Williams got back

453
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Speaker 4: in the league pretty quickly, very different circumstances. Yeah, but

454
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Speaker 4: it's just saying it's an old boys network where nothing

455
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Speaker 4: would surprise me when it comes to in the NFL.

456
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Speaker 4: Might the NFL might exert whatever power they have on

457
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Speaker 4: not wanting John Gruden into the league. Though John Gruden

458
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Speaker 4: versus Roger Goodell and the NFL was a bubbling legal battle.

459
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Speaker 4: I think it might still be going on in the

460
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Speaker 4: Nevada courts.

461
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Speaker 2: Yeah.

462
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Speaker 1: And just by way of a backstory, Gruden made the

463
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Speaker 1: very like kind of boomer Dad mistake of just writing

464
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Speaker 1: freely in an email, a company email connected to former

465
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Speaker 1: Washington general manager Bruce Allen.

466
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Speaker 2: Uh.

467
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Speaker 1: And in the emails there's uses of misogynistic, racist, anti

468
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Speaker 1: LGBTQ language, complaining about the league hiring women as referees,

469
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Speaker 1: teams drafting gay players, players protesting the national anthem.

470
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Speaker 2: It was just like, bro, are you serious?

471
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Speaker 1: Like from like John Gruden at Raiders dot com to

472
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Speaker 1: Bruce Allen at Washington dot com, Come on, guys, Washington

473
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Speaker 1: dot com.

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Speaker 4: And they I believe they kind of they had a

475
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Speaker 4: falling out, Bruce Allen and John Gruden because Allen got

476
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Speaker 4: buried as part of all this.

477
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Speaker 1: Right, and that only came to it wasn't an investigation

478
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Speaker 1: of Gruden, even which is I think Gruden led to

479
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Speaker 1: some legal action. It was an investigation of Washington's team

480
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Speaker 1: that uncovered Gruden's comments that then were leaked or got

481
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Speaker 1: out there and away we go.

482
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Speaker 2: Anyway, that's what's happening in the news. Let's take a

483
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Speaker 2: break and fly in the wall time. Oh god, how

484
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Speaker 2: annoying flies? Annoying?

485
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Speaker 6: Yeah, they are all right, welcome back, good fly talk.

486
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Speaker 4: I'm struggling to get rid of some flies in the

487
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Speaker 4: new uh the new house.

488
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Speaker 2: Such it's aunt season two where I live.

489
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Speaker 1: Once, you know, the the weather springtime hits, they start

490
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Speaker 1: migrating in the house and you just can't get rid of.

491
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Speaker 5: What do you like jars of like open jams sitting around.

492
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Speaker 1: I got two young children. Well I'll do it, and

493
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Speaker 1: not now a dog. But maybe the dog can help.

494
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Speaker 5: I don't.

495
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Speaker 1: I don't dogs train me to just lap up ants.

496
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Speaker 1: Maybe you'll, you know, develop a taste for them.

497
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Speaker 5: Feels like anti dog behavior.

498
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Speaker 2: Yeah, probably fly on the wall.

499
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Speaker 1: So there are things that we know in our league

500
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Speaker 1: that are reported or that teams and players or players

501
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Speaker 1: and coaches in front office people will publicly state. And

502
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Speaker 1: then there are the real conversations that are happening behind

503
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Speaker 1: closed doors at the team facility. And this segment is

504
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Speaker 1: our way of kind of giving you a little bit

505
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Speaker 1: more information or speculation on what those conversations might be. Uh,

506
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Speaker 1: and then we discuss. That's that's the segment.

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Speaker 6: That's how you I want to see you start this thing, and.

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Speaker 1: I would like to actually defer to you. I'm going

509
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Speaker 1: to defer to you Greg to start.

510
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Speaker 6: I think it is.

511
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Speaker 4: It's quite sure of the tone and how we're totally

512
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Speaker 4: doing this solthough we've done it in the.

513
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Speaker 2: Past, So just have some fun with it.

514
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Speaker 4: I am a fly on the wall. Those beady eyes

515
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Speaker 4: don't swat at me. In Green Bay, right near Lambeaufield.

516
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Speaker 4: Pretty special. How you know the practice facility right next

517
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Speaker 4: to the field, right next to the stadium.

518
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Speaker 6: It's all one. It's just a small town.

519
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Speaker 2: It's good.

520
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Speaker 4: It's a really unique thing about the NFL. Well, I'm

521
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Speaker 4: a fly in Wisconsin and I'm listening to what Matt

522
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Speaker 4: Lafleur is talking about when it comes to Jordan Love

523
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Speaker 4: in all of his young weapons. And I'm curious if

524
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Speaker 4: this fly is really picking up on the anxiety in

525
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Speaker 4: Matt Lafleur's voice.

526
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Speaker 6: I don't know.

527
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Speaker 4: I want to be a fly there to find out

528
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Speaker 4: how confident he really is in this young quarterback, how

529
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Speaker 4: confident he is in himself famously called the you know,

530
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Speaker 4: the young bearded boy by Keith Hansis. This is when

531
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Speaker 4: we find out if he's really a man as a coach.

532
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Speaker 4: There's no Aaron Rodgers. There's a quarterback who's been as

533
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Speaker 4: up and down when he's played in the preseason, in

534
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Speaker 4: little regular season action as any quarterback possible. Tons of

535
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Speaker 4: great plays, tons of head scratching plays. But it's not

536
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Speaker 4: Jordan Love surrounded by a team of veterans to help

537
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Speaker 4: pick him up. It's surrounded by the youngest skill position talent,

538
00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:05,119
Speaker 4: especially at receiver, in the entire league. They're going to

539
00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:09,880
Speaker 4: be playing Christian Watson, Romeo Dobbs, who are second year players,

540
00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:14,040
Speaker 4: Jaden Reid, a rookie, and then at tight end two

541
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Speaker 4: more rookies, Luke Musgrave and Tucker Kraft and so they've

542
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Speaker 4: been on the field now for just a couple of weeks.

543
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Speaker 4: We're just starting OTAs, and as a fly on the wall,

544
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Speaker 4: I would just love to hear the real talk between

545
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Speaker 4: Lafleur and his coaching staff of where he really thinks

546
00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:33,040
Speaker 4: Jordan Love is right now and where he really thinks

547
00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:35,720
Speaker 4: these wide receivers are right now, because I think you

548
00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:38,639
Speaker 4: can find out a lot early and whether he's that

549
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Speaker 4: confident and frankly just by the tone of his voice,

550
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Speaker 4: because my fly is particularly smart, like how much self

551
00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:46,280
Speaker 4: confidence he really is that he's going to show the

552
00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:49,080
Speaker 4: league that he's the guy who's been leading these thirteen

553
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Speaker 4: win seasons.

554
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Speaker 5: Now, I like this, This is good fly work.

555
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Speaker 3: I would say that I think like you have a

556
00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:58,080
Speaker 3: star potentially in Christian Watson and Dobbs showed a lot too,

557
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Speaker 3: and I think if you're you're maybe walking around with

558
00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:04,480
Speaker 3: a little bit more of a strut and a little

559
00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:08,200
Speaker 3: more confidence because you ultimately won this battle with Aaron Rodgers.

560
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Speaker 3: I mean it was like Aaron Rodgers sort of controlling

561
00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:13,119
Speaker 3: the coaching staff as as he's want to do, and

562
00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:16,600
Speaker 3: you know, all this offseason drama year after year, it's

563
00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:20,040
Speaker 3: a it's I think if you're a fair minded Packers fan,

564
00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:24,280
Speaker 3: you'd say, we're resetting. We don't know what Jordan Love is.

565
00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:27,359
Speaker 3: There isn't actually high expectations of Jordan Love at this point.

566
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Speaker 3: We understand that he's got a young offense around him.

567
00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:32,679
Speaker 3: It almost, if anything, buys Matt Lafleur time, where the

568
00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:34,560
Speaker 3: narrative before was like, yeah, you can win in the

569
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Speaker 3: regular season, but come every January you get axed and

570
00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:40,399
Speaker 3: you're the coach that can't seem to win these playoff games.

571
00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:43,440
Speaker 3: And now it's like, we know that your talented, you're

572
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Speaker 3: a good coach. You it's your job to show what

573
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Speaker 3: you can do in a young quarterback. And I don't

574
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Speaker 3: think there's an expectation has to happen starting in Week one.

575
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know if I ever saw it as

576
00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:55,720
Speaker 1: a Rogers v. Laflor like battle, where it's more like

577
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Speaker 1: he outlasted Rogers. And then the circumstances of the Love

578
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Speaker 1: drafting have now presented this situation and him as a

579
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Speaker 1: first round pick, and I think what it Listen, he

580
00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:08,480
Speaker 1: has a seven to twelve winning percentage as a head coach,

581
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Speaker 1: and that's great, even factoring in a losing record last year,

582
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Speaker 1: but I think myself, certainly Keith Hansas in the garage

583
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Speaker 1: there in Culver City with their bearded boy three years ago.

584
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Speaker 1: But you know, even though the record's great and they

585
00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:25,119
Speaker 1: won a couple, they won a couple of playoff games,

586
00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:28,040
Speaker 1: you know, never got over the hump. But it's always

587
00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:30,960
Speaker 1: been a little bit like, okay, But like, is Matt

588
00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:32,959
Speaker 1: laff Like you can talk him up because of his

589
00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:35,560
Speaker 1: record as a top coach, but what's he really about?

590
00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:36,600
Speaker 2: Like is this guy legit?

591
00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:38,560
Speaker 1: And that's why this year it's a great kind of

592
00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:42,400
Speaker 1: subplot in the NFC, And I think I think it's

593
00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:45,160
Speaker 1: gonna buy him two years because even if I think

594
00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:49,000
Speaker 1: Jordan Love doesn't play well, or let's say he like

595
00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:50,960
Speaker 1: it is terrible, let's say he has a really bad year,

596
00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:53,240
Speaker 1: which is within the range of outcomes, I don't think

597
00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:55,600
Speaker 1: that would get Lafleur canned. I would think he would

598
00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:58,480
Speaker 1: get another chance next year, whether it was year two

599
00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:00,520
Speaker 1: with Love as starter or or if they went a

600
00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:03,240
Speaker 1: different direction. But at the same time, I think certainly

601
00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:06,600
Speaker 1: he could be strutting around with confidence, but also there's

602
00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:09,320
Speaker 1: probably a little part of him that's like all right,

603
00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:11,600
Speaker 1: and the spotlight's going to really on me now. For

604
00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:14,880
Speaker 1: all the frustrations that Iron Rodgers became kind of bigger

605
00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:18,080
Speaker 1: than the team, he took all of the kind of

606
00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:21,080
Speaker 1: spotlight and for better or worse, the good and the

607
00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:22,880
Speaker 1: bad that came with that. And now it's going to

608
00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:25,120
Speaker 1: be right on the head coach to find a way

609
00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:27,640
Speaker 1: to make this young quarterback play at a high level.

610
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Speaker 6: Plus, it's the off season.

611
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:31,560
Speaker 4: It's beard and body time for lafleur and hair, and

612
00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:33,560
Speaker 4: he got an eyebrows. He got a lot of shots

613
00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:36,719
Speaker 4: from Rogers compliments really, but a lot of mentions of

614
00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:41,560
Speaker 4: how tight the eyebrows, the beard, all of it were.

615
00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:44,800
Speaker 4: But the Love contract is partly why I want to

616
00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:46,840
Speaker 4: be there and hear what they're really saying, because I

617
00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:48,040
Speaker 4: was surprised it.

618
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:48,600
Speaker 6: Did to me.

619
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Speaker 4: People say, oh, it was a good deal for the Packers,

620
00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:53,400
Speaker 4: it was good business, blah blah. Like it did show

621
00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:57,080
Speaker 4: to me a lack of total confidence in Jordan Love,

622
00:29:57,120 --> 00:29:59,160
Speaker 4: which is fine. I guess it makes sense they're not

623
00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:02,440
Speaker 4: totally confident in him. But I was a little surprised

624
00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:05,920
Speaker 4: that they're not going into this new era with Jordan Love, uh,

625
00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:08,440
Speaker 4: with two feet in It's kind of one one foot

626
00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:10,640
Speaker 4: in and to your point, he could stink this year,

627
00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:13,080
Speaker 4: like they can get out of it after this year.

628
00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:16,120
Speaker 4: So how confident is he really? And how confident with

629
00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:17,440
Speaker 4: all these young players around him?

630
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Speaker 3: I find them finally intriguing because since nineteen ninety two,

631
00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:24,000
Speaker 3: every coach has had Brett Farvar Aaron Rodgers's quarterback. And

632
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:25,640
Speaker 3: now we're like in totally unstarted.

633
00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:28,360
Speaker 6: What's this funny? This is a theme with Mark.

634
00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:32,320
Speaker 4: He's only intrigued by great teams once they.

635
00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:34,320
Speaker 6: Stink, right like the Rams.

636
00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:37,520
Speaker 1: Once the star's gone typically market, it's an opposite bandwagon move.

637
00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:38,280
Speaker 6: So I listened.

638
00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:41,680
Speaker 4: I was curious what the fly segment really was, so

639
00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:43,080
Speaker 4: I actually was googling it.

640
00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:47,320
Speaker 6: Yes, and I say the same exactly and little similar ish. Yeah.

641
00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:49,280
Speaker 4: And first of all, we both found that there's some

642
00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:50,520
Speaker 4: podcast called Fly.

643
00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:53,440
Speaker 2: On the Wall with Carvey and Spade that talk old SNL.

644
00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:55,760
Speaker 6: It was getting in the way of our Google search.

645
00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:58,520
Speaker 4: They found the first time we ever did this, and

646
00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:00,960
Speaker 4: we were talking about McVeigh as maybe the next Waltz

647
00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:05,800
Speaker 4: and uh, and Mark said, well, let's see when he has,

648
00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:09,600
Speaker 4: you know, something happened to him like that is when

649
00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:10,440
Speaker 4: I'll be interested.

650
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:12,480
Speaker 6: And you were right. You're now more interested in the

651
00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:14,120
Speaker 6: Rams now that they've struggled.

652
00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:17,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, I believe in the You know what I've said

653
00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:18,960
Speaker 5: in the past, it will come true.

654
00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:22,240
Speaker 2: Go ahead, Mark, you got head to another facility.

655
00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:22,840
Speaker 5: I am.

656
00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:25,120
Speaker 3: I'm going to fly in a in an emptied out

657
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:31,200
Speaker 3: office in outside of Denver, Colorado. And it's the you know,

658
00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:33,400
Speaker 3: the fly is thinking, you know, no one's here to

659
00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:36,640
Speaker 3: swap me away. I'm also not sure as a fly

660
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Speaker 3: that I actually can hear the way that humans do,

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Speaker 3: which puts a bit of a log jab into the

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Speaker 3: concept of the segment. But we're going to forgeh on there.

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Speaker 5: But into the.

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Speaker 1: Doorway you can hear actually.

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Speaker 5: Otherwise segment over it.

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Speaker 3: But into the doorway comes Bronco's head coach, Sean Payton,

667
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Speaker 3: and he just comes into the middle of the room

668
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Speaker 3: and he just starts giggling because this was Russell Wilson's

669
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Speaker 3: little private office from a year ago, where he'd go

670
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Speaker 3: up and unlike all the rest of the players on

671
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Speaker 3: the roster, have his little meetings and phone calls and

672
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Speaker 3: his special little time in his little corner office out

673
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Speaker 3: he gone because now Sean Payton has basically made it

674
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Speaker 3: very clear that these the Russell Wilson experience is going

675
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:24,640
Speaker 3: to be rained in hardcore. No more private office, no

676
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Speaker 3: more performance team getting special access to the building and

677
00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:31,840
Speaker 3: you know, waving feathers at Russell Wilson's hair and flexing

678
00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:35,160
Speaker 3: his muscles. He now has to prove that he actually

679
00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:37,600
Speaker 3: can play football in this new offense. And while there

680
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Speaker 3: is a lot of belief that he'll be at least

681
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Speaker 3: serviceable because it's Sean Payton's offense, I just think that

682
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Speaker 3: where Nathaniel Hackett had no choice but to endure Russell

683
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Speaker 3: Wilson's horrible bottom five play all season, that I want

684
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Speaker 3: to know as a fly, I'm going to start to

685
00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:57,600
Speaker 3: fly out of this little office when Sean Payton walks

686
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Speaker 3: out of it, and I'm just going to track him

687
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:02,360
Speaker 3: quietly so that I don't draw too much attention or

688
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:05,480
Speaker 3: get swatted, and listen to little conversations between him and

689
00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:09,520
Speaker 3: general George Patten, Peyton the general manager, and just what

690
00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:11,720
Speaker 3: in general the agreement is, because if Russell will.

691
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Speaker 2: Do we think that do you think they've spoken yet?

692
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Speaker 3: And I think they're on the same page about something

693
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Speaker 3: because Peyton is lucky to have a job after I

694
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Speaker 3: think we're eating those picks away.

695
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Speaker 4: I think Peyton is on this George Peyton is on

696
00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:26,000
Speaker 4: the same page as John Payton in the same way

697
00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:29,800
Speaker 4: like Tom on succession was on the same page as

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00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:30,960
Speaker 4: what's his name?

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Speaker 6: No, no, no, Matt's it. He's yes, sir.

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Speaker 4: Anything you watch, sir, I'm bendable, Sir. I will get

701
00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:40,200
Speaker 4: the players that you need to get rid of.

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Speaker 3: I totally agree with that. I don't think Peyton is

703
00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:43,920
Speaker 3: sitting in the power seat. He's lucky to be there

704
00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:45,640
Speaker 3: at this point. It was a terrible miss Staton.

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Speaker 6: Well, they're both Peyton, so that's a problem for both

706
00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:49,400
Speaker 6: of us.

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Speaker 1: I thought we decided for this show's purpose we were

708
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Speaker 1: just going to call him General Patton. And it's even

709
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Speaker 1: more important now that Peyton I think it's in the

710
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Speaker 1: power seat.

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Speaker 3: Patten is lucky to be and but I think that

712
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:02,880
Speaker 3: there must be And I just want to say this

713
00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:06,520
Speaker 3: is to me quietly. I lauded the media a couple

714
00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:10,000
Speaker 3: of weeks ago for not starting to dive into billions

715
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:13,120
Speaker 3: of think pieces about Russell Wilson, the rebuilt, you know,

716
00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:15,680
Speaker 3: bounce back quarterback, and I just want to know what

717
00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:18,919
Speaker 3: the actual verbal agreement is that if Russell Wilson comes

718
00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:21,839
Speaker 3: out through all of camp and flatlines and then in

719
00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:24,600
Speaker 3: lays see you know, multiple eggs in a row in

720
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Speaker 3: the regular season, how quickly, how soon do we see

721
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Speaker 3: Jared's Didham who they paid a lot of money to Halloween.

722
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Speaker 2: I think he gets about six weeks or so.

723
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Speaker 3: I think that's fair. I mean, I think it's like,

724
00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:36,759
Speaker 3: you need to be you need to have been given

725
00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:37,839
Speaker 3: power to move on from this?

726
00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:42,320
Speaker 2: Can I throw out? Can I throw out?

727
00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:44,239
Speaker 1: Because we're heading towards the new season and that was

728
00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:47,520
Speaker 1: tremendously confusing at points and not not your fault.

729
00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:50,160
Speaker 2: It was because of the last names, right.

730
00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:53,200
Speaker 1: Can I call a measure to order and get a

731
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Speaker 1: vote and has to be unanimous to pass that on

732
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Speaker 1: the for the purposes of this program moving forward for

733
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:05,800
Speaker 1: the duration of the current general managers stay with the Broncos. Yeah,

734
00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:08,400
Speaker 1: that we now call him Kevin Saunders.

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Speaker 6: Wait, what's wrong with General Patten or General George?

736
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:12,720
Speaker 5: But I'll write that down.

737
00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:15,279
Speaker 2: Saying I'm just saying that way.

738
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Speaker 6: He has fun.

739
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Speaker 2: We will never confuse the Peyton Paton Peyton thing, right.

740
00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:21,959
Speaker 1: Yeah, And its like now he has a totally different

741
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:24,319
Speaker 1: name than the head coach, and it will what just

742
00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:26,760
Speaker 1: happened now will never happen again if he's Kevin Saunders.

743
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Speaker 3: Kevin, And it's even worse when you have to write

744
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:32,359
Speaker 3: about both of them. We've had that before where it's

745
00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:34,000
Speaker 3: a Smith and Smith and you have to put the

746
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:36,040
Speaker 3: first name back in over and over. And I stepped

747
00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:36,520
Speaker 3: right into it.

748
00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:38,600
Speaker 4: All right, Kevin Saunders, it is from now on. And

749
00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:41,360
Speaker 4: if you happen to have missed the May thirtieth episode

750
00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:44,160
Speaker 4: of The Round the NFL Problem, it's going to be confusing.

751
00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:46,520
Speaker 4: If you're friends with anyone that listens to the sho

752
00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:50,440
Speaker 4: let them know. So everything's covered and it kind of

753
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:53,800
Speaker 4: reminds Kevin Saunders reminds me of Steve Sanders, who's you know,

754
00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:57,279
Speaker 4: an all time on television character on Beverly Hills nine

755
00:35:57,280 --> 00:35:57,879
Speaker 4: to two and now.

756
00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:00,840
Speaker 1: Right, and I mentioned Breandan Walts earlier, So yeah, everything's

757
00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:01,440
Speaker 1: tied together, all right.

758
00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:03,319
Speaker 5: Maybe we tweet that change out all right?

759
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:03,920
Speaker 2: Behind the glass?

760
00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:06,160
Speaker 1: Can you miss make note of that that the general

761
00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:08,800
Speaker 1: manager of the Broncos on this show is Kevin Saunders.

762
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Speaker 4: I think, by the way, Russell Wilson has no excuses

763
00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:17,839
Speaker 4: in a way like this offensive line looks pretty good.

764
00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:20,080
Speaker 4: They're quite deep at wide receiver, and he's got this

765
00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:22,640
Speaker 4: amazing coach. But if you look at what's worked under

766
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:24,719
Speaker 4: Sean Payton, what he prizes, it's like kind of the

767
00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:28,360
Speaker 4: opposite of what Russell Wilson is. It's it's closer to

768
00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:30,320
Speaker 4: a Teddy Bridgewater tape. I think that's why I like

769
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:33,840
Speaker 4: Teddy Bridgewater. Drew Brees is the Hall of Fame version

770
00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:36,279
Speaker 4: of that. But it's like quick decision making out of

771
00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:39,320
Speaker 4: your hand, fast over the middle of the field. Literally

772
00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:41,360
Speaker 4: all the things that are the opposite of what Russell

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Speaker 4: Wilson did well even when he was one of the

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Speaker 4: best quarterbacks the week.

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Speaker 6: Problematic.

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Speaker 2: Can we head back to the desert in Vegas?

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Speaker 5: Sure? Why not? You're a fly.

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00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:54,399
Speaker 2: Because listen, just a fly.

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00:36:56,680 --> 00:37:00,000
Speaker 1: I don't know nothing for nothing, I have no agenda

780
00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:04,080
Speaker 1: because I only live for like thirty days.

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Speaker 6: Right, is that true?

782
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Speaker 2: That's it. It's about a month I got.

783
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Speaker 1: So when I tell you this, I'm not trying to

784
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Speaker 1: further my own career or hurt someone in a way

785
00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:18,120
Speaker 1: that will allow me to advance as a species. Or

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Speaker 1: thirty days. It's about four weeks and I'm gone. So

787
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Speaker 1: I was in this Raiders facility, and there was it

788
00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:30,040
Speaker 1: was a dark room.

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Speaker 2: And I'm just gonna need your guys help with this.

790
00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:33,760
Speaker 2: And I'm gonna.

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Speaker 1: Apologize to your producer Eric ahead of time because I

792
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:42,400
Speaker 1: think this will give him a little work in post production.

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Speaker 2: So apologies Eric from the fly Me.

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Speaker 1: So this man he was wearing kind of a hoodie,

795
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Speaker 1: dark hair, about you know, forty something, maybe late forties.

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Speaker 1: He was hunched over. This was I should let you know.

797
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:06,680
Speaker 1: This was about late last week, okay, and uh and

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00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:10,000
Speaker 1: this is just again I don't know, I don't know

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Speaker 1: what any of this means. But here's a translation or

800
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Speaker 1: here's a just a transcription of what this.

801
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Speaker 2: Figure was saying.

802
00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:27,960
Speaker 1: And then he fumbled for it was it's like a

803
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Speaker 1: black rectangular device with like buttons on it or something

804
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:35,800
Speaker 1: I don't.

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00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:39,560
Speaker 3: Know what, calculator, an iPad device of some sort or

806
00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:40,200
Speaker 3: I don't know.

807
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:42,920
Speaker 2: It's like something he could talk into cell phone phone

808
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:43,319
Speaker 2: a phone.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you just don't need a cell phone.

810
00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:47,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was in his It was in the compartment.

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Speaker 1: There's like a compartment in the.

812
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Speaker 6: If so intelligent about some aspects of human life.

813
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Speaker 2: And yet it's like he was wearing.

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Speaker 1: These and he took out the phone from the pants

815
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Speaker 1: and then he's hitting the phone and the first three

816
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:09,160
Speaker 1: digits that I could see were six one seven. I

817
00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:15,080
Speaker 1: don't know if that's as Boston area code, and it

818
00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:18,040
Speaker 1: seemed to have gone straight to voicemail. And then this

819
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:21,160
Speaker 1: this guy left like a sobbing message. He was really

820
00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:25,319
Speaker 1: emotional to some guy named Bill or William and he

821
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Speaker 1: mentioned something about regrets and again, I'm just to fly. Actually,

822
00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:34,719
Speaker 1: Bill O'Brien, sucks, was said at one point, and then

823
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Speaker 1: a bunch of pleases, and then he put down the

824
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Speaker 1: phone and then sobbed again, really at an emotionally high register,

825
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Speaker 1: alone in this room until like it seemed like a

826
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Speaker 1: staffer came in and he very quickly kind of rubbed

827
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Speaker 1: his eyes and kind of walked out of the room

828
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Speaker 1: with his head down. So I don't know like all

829
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Speaker 1: the specifics, but someone was very upset about the state

830
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Speaker 1: I would imagine of this business, whatever this business.

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Speaker 3: Is, I've been doing. I've been digging while you've been talking.

832
00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:08,680
Speaker 3: And there's a couple candidates here, Okay, but I did

833
00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:11,279
Speaker 3: look up the age of head coach Josh McDaniels, who

834
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Speaker 3: likes to wear the hoodie like his former friend Bill

835
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Speaker 3: Belichick the Boston area, and so he's forty seven, just

836
00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:22,120
Speaker 3: turned forty seven during the off seas got to be him.

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Speaker 5: You could see why.

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00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:24,920
Speaker 3: He'd be very frustrated with what we talked about in

839
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Speaker 3: the New seventh with Jimmy g And yeah, I think

840
00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:30,880
Speaker 3: it's pretty common to have the Patriots on speed doll.

841
00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:33,200
Speaker 3: The last time that Josh McDaniels ventured out as a

842
00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:36,520
Speaker 3: head coach, I was a one and done disaster scenario

843
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:39,279
Speaker 3: with the Rams. Actually as just as an OC last

844
00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:41,239
Speaker 3: time he called plays outside of New England, and that

845
00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:46,839
Speaker 3: offense finished thirty second in points, thirty first overall. And

846
00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:50,400
Speaker 3: here he is in a situation potentially on a Raiders

847
00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:53,160
Speaker 3: team that I felt even weeks ago was a floating

848
00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:58,239
Speaker 3: ship in the darkness with no quarterback. Potentially, he must

849
00:40:58,719 --> 00:40:59,440
Speaker 3: and I have to get going.

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Speaker 2: I have to lay some eggs and year.

851
00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:07,839
Speaker 1: But he is entering his second year in Vegas. He's

852
00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:10,040
Speaker 1: his career record is seventeen and twenty eight. So we

853
00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:13,719
Speaker 1: just talked about seven to twelve for Lafleur. McDaniels is

854
00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:17,080
Speaker 1: three to seventy eight as a coach and winning percentage

855
00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:20,400
Speaker 1: and now you have to be thinking that he is

856
00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:22,839
Speaker 1: very nervous about what's going on, like that he is

857
00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:26,120
Speaker 1: now tied to a team that might not have a quarterback,

858
00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:30,640
Speaker 1: and he's coming off eleven loss season, And is McDaniel's

859
00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:33,279
Speaker 1: going to get out of this alive? And if Garoppolo

860
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:38,040
Speaker 1: is not available? Like it feels like this is one

861
00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:40,200
Speaker 1: of the grimmest situations the side of Arizona.

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Speaker 4: On paper, their offense is intriguing, total continuity on the

863
00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:51,239
Speaker 4: offensive line, pretty good weapons for Garoppolo. Yeah, defense looks

864
00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:53,239
Speaker 4: like a mess though, And then you look at this

865
00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:58,279
Speaker 4: backup situation, it's it screams for someone else. And that's

866
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Speaker 4: why I thought when you said it's a mid forties

867
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Speaker 4: guy in the Raiders facility who wears a hoodie, I

868
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Speaker 4: was thinking of a much taller, much more handsome man

869
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Speaker 4: who also, you know, happens to have the most Super

870
00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:14,920
Speaker 4: Bowls in NFL history. I thought that was Tom Brady

871
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Speaker 4: having regrets.

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00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:18,120
Speaker 2: I'm not familiar with who that is, right, I know

873
00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:18,880
Speaker 2: you're a fly.

874
00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:24,000
Speaker 4: But Tom Brady, reportedly a partial owner of the Raiders,

875
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:28,120
Speaker 4: potentially could have regrets about even doing that because this

876
00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:32,680
Speaker 4: job could be sitting for him with his old buddy.

877
00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:35,400
Speaker 1: But what this Tom Brady guy, why would he want

878
00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:37,680
Speaker 1: to get involved with this particular team at this stage

879
00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:38,240
Speaker 1: of his life?

880
00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:38,520
Speaker 6: Well?

881
00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:41,080
Speaker 3: Why why was he shawing Bill Belichick crush?

882
00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:44,600
Speaker 4: That's where I lost me and I realized I was

883
00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:48,520
Speaker 4: going the wrong way here. Well, he has a deep

884
00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:55,160
Speaker 4: burning desire inside to overshadow Jimmy Garoppolo and try to

885
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:58,640
Speaker 4: war his happiness at every turn, and that alone would

886
00:42:58,920 --> 00:42:59,759
Speaker 4: make him want to do that.

887
00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:02,319
Speaker 1: I mean, I've talked about that a couple times on

888
00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:06,400
Speaker 1: the show Brady and mc daniels, but we don't actually

889
00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:08,040
Speaker 1: think this is gonna happen right now now.

890
00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:10,480
Speaker 4: I don't because of the whole ownership thing. None of

891
00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:13,600
Speaker 4: it makes sense if.

892
00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:15,560
Speaker 3: You're Tom Brady, though, what's attractive about coming back to

893
00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:18,360
Speaker 3: play for a team that seems to be in total chaos?

894
00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:21,360
Speaker 2: And it's interesting with the parallel with Arizona.

895
00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:24,120
Speaker 1: If this Garoppolo thing really goes sideways, and as we

896
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:27,640
Speaker 1: learn more through the summer, if they are indeed kind

897
00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:30,480
Speaker 1: of shipwrecked without a quarterback here, wouldn't it make all

898
00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:32,800
Speaker 1: the sense in the world then to move Adams and

899
00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:34,439
Speaker 1: they say, oh, you can't make it work with the money.

900
00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:36,759
Speaker 1: But just like the Cardinals are saying, we don't care. Yeah,

901
00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:37,880
Speaker 1: we'll take all the pain with you.

902
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:40,560
Speaker 6: But no, because DeVonta Adams is great, right, but.

903
00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:42,680
Speaker 1: What do you I mean if you're if your season

904
00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:44,680
Speaker 1: is basically cooked, if you don't have a quarterback. We

905
00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:46,360
Speaker 1: all know that, and they obviously don't have the defense

906
00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:49,720
Speaker 1: to save the day. That could lead to another pivot.

907
00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:51,279
Speaker 1: I'm just saying it kind of opens the door for

908
00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:55,480
Speaker 1: a lot of different avenues for this team to go. Hopefully,

909
00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:58,719
Speaker 1: and listen, we don't want to overreact on May thirty if,

910
00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:01,120
Speaker 1: like just because of one Jimmy Gripolo report out there,

911
00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:03,520
Speaker 1: like he could be fine for week one, but it's

912
00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:06,000
Speaker 1: just a little bit ominous given his history. And if

913
00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:08,279
Speaker 1: you're the head coach, you know you are in a

914
00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:10,040
Speaker 1: very vulnerable position right now.

915
00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:12,560
Speaker 3: And let's just say in another world day, because I

916
00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:15,080
Speaker 3: think one possible reality is that if they move on

917
00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:17,680
Speaker 3: from Jimmy g initially, they could resign him at a

918
00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:20,840
Speaker 3: different price. That seems weird, but let's say there's a

919
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:24,719
Speaker 3: scenario where Brian Hoyer slash aiden rookie man, is you're

920
00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:30,240
Speaker 3: starting two pack come September, where what will DeVante Adams

921
00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:33,200
Speaker 3: be saying by October he already talked about the fact

922
00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:35,200
Speaker 3: that he wasn't totally on board with the idea that

923
00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:36,120
Speaker 3: they went and got Jimmy G.

924
00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:40,240
Speaker 4: Maybe he knew about the foot stuff well, but either way,

925
00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:43,880
Speaker 4: you're right. I mean the back seven on defense, like

926
00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:45,560
Speaker 4: there's so much focus on the Actually, I think the

927
00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:48,120
Speaker 4: offense is a chance if Jimmy G was healthy to

928
00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:51,000
Speaker 4: be a top ten offense. I think that's their road

929
00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:53,799
Speaker 4: map that they would see a top ten offense and

930
00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:56,080
Speaker 4: better on defense. But the back seven on defense, their

931
00:44:56,080 --> 00:44:59,320
Speaker 4: linebacker and their secondary, like it's a disaster.

932
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:00,000
Speaker 6: And you're right.

933
00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:03,359
Speaker 4: It's funny because McDaniels held out so long and maybe

934
00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:05,160
Speaker 4: you couldn't get it the right job or but he

935
00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:07,279
Speaker 4: passed up a lot of jobs, and you was inty

936
00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:11,680
Speaker 4: misus Colt's job, trying to time it, and a year

937
00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:14,160
Speaker 4: and a half in, they don't look any better than

938
00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:16,759
Speaker 4: when John Gruden was there. They probably look worse, and

939
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:20,080
Speaker 4: supposedly Hunter Renfro might get traded. There's still this buzz

940
00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:22,120
Speaker 4: out there that the Saints are interesting. I don't I

941
00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:22,920
Speaker 4: don't understand that.

942
00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:25,640
Speaker 2: All right, let's take a break and then we'll visit

943
00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:29,399
Speaker 2: three more facilities. All right, welcome back.

944
00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:32,160
Speaker 1: I'm holding in my hand, by the way, a Funko

945
00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:36,400
Speaker 1: Pop figurine delivered from one of our great maestros behind

946
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:41,040
Speaker 1: the glass, Christy Stapleton. It's an Aaron Judge Funko Pop figure.

947
00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:44,000
Speaker 1: I guess taking off somebody's desk. Wait, let me get

948
00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:44,560
Speaker 1: this right for you.

949
00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:47,400
Speaker 4: You know, you really got to check out this cameraman's

950
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:50,400
Speaker 4: getting put to work with. The YouTube feed is really

951
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:52,080
Speaker 4: pop it off today.

952
00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:54,799
Speaker 1: And this is this figure is uh uh, there we go.

953
00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:56,959
Speaker 1: That's it Mark.

954
00:45:57,040 --> 00:45:57,720
Speaker 2: So if you were.

955
00:45:57,719 --> 00:46:00,000
Speaker 3: Curious, I've seen those so now I think they're very attractive.

956
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:02,800
Speaker 3: It's a very nice, very attractive. It's a nice hobbyist

957
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:04,720
Speaker 3: addition to the hobbyist collection.

958
00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:07,120
Speaker 2: What is your where you at as a collectible throughout

959
00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:07,600
Speaker 2: your life?

960
00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:09,360
Speaker 5: Got post childhood?

961
00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:13,160
Speaker 2: Yeah? Like what was your Star Wars figurines? Things as

962
00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:13,600
Speaker 2: a child?

963
00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:14,520
Speaker 5: Not as an adult?

964
00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:16,680
Speaker 2: You have them in the boxes and no I.

965
00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:19,320
Speaker 3: Play you know, I used to bury them in the

966
00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:21,359
Speaker 3: yard and stuff, and that was part of the game,

967
00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:22,799
Speaker 3: Like they have to go find their friend who's been

968
00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:23,520
Speaker 3: buried on the ground.

969
00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:25,640
Speaker 2: So remember that one in the sand pit and then

970
00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:26,640
Speaker 2: you boy, some water.

971
00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:28,319
Speaker 5: In there and it's freeze them and Ice.

972
00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:31,759
Speaker 6: I did have that Alice Burke starting lineup figure come with.

973
00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:34,160
Speaker 4: I had a lot of start my life for a while,

974
00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:36,000
Speaker 4: but at this point I think wrestling figures.

975
00:46:36,040 --> 00:46:38,960
Speaker 3: I had the almost the entire WWF collection, along with.

976
00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:39,760
Speaker 2: A Steeler cage.

977
00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:42,760
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, you put King Kong Bundy Versu hul Kogan

978
00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:43,400
Speaker 3: to mimic.

979
00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:44,440
Speaker 5: I believe WrestleMania too.

980
00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:47,080
Speaker 1: In fact, sitting on my desk in our newsroom is

981
00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:51,920
Speaker 1: a Ken O'Brien and altoon a starting line of figurines

982
00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:53,120
Speaker 1: from nineteen eighty nine.

983
00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:53,719
Speaker 2: I had lost.

984
00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:57,000
Speaker 1: I lost all that football helmets, every one of my

985
00:46:57,040 --> 00:47:00,280
Speaker 1: football figures.

986
00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:01,560
Speaker 2: Sometime in nineteen eighty nine and never found him again.

987
00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:05,640
Speaker 1: So they're just catching passes and passing without any protection

988
00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:06,000
Speaker 1: at all.

989
00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:11,480
Speaker 5: M my laptop, Greg, don't do that.

990
00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:12,760
Speaker 2: Why do you keep doing that lately?

991
00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:15,479
Speaker 6: Almost it's just sitting there. I'm making sure I don't

992
00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:16,160
Speaker 6: like take whatever.

993
00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:17,520
Speaker 5: But I already told you before the.

994
00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:21,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's also it's a violation a little bit

995
00:47:21,719 --> 00:47:22,600
Speaker 2: of his space.

996
00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:25,080
Speaker 3: When you look, it's just strange. It's off putting.

997
00:47:25,120 --> 00:47:25,879
Speaker 6: It's just right there.

998
00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:27,120
Speaker 2: Would you want someone to do that too.

999
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:29,719
Speaker 6: I mean, if it's just my notes for the show,

1000
00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:30,319
Speaker 6: I'd be fine.

1001
00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:31,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, you don't know what's on there.

1002
00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:33,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, what if I'm doing something else.

1003
00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:36,719
Speaker 4: I was making sure that I didn't take, but I

1004
00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:39,600
Speaker 4: go ahead. I like to leave myself options of what

1005
00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:41,880
Speaker 4: I'm gonna do. I'm gonna leave the forty nine ers

1006
00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:44,440
Speaker 4: to the side. Actually, okay, I am curious what what

1007
00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:48,200
Speaker 4: they think about tree Lance And they're darnold in reality

1008
00:47:48,239 --> 00:47:51,000
Speaker 4: behind the scenes and at the risk of leaning too

1009
00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:53,160
Speaker 4: hard on the six one seven area code, my fly

1010
00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:55,560
Speaker 4: is flying up to Foxborough and.

1011
00:47:55,600 --> 00:47:58,320
Speaker 2: Good we got We're all over this facility.

1012
00:47:58,080 --> 00:48:00,239
Speaker 6: And it's looking you know.

1013
00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:04,680
Speaker 4: It buzzes past the coaches, buzzes past Bill O Bright. Oh, like,

1014
00:48:05,560 --> 00:48:07,640
Speaker 4: what is mac Jones doing there in the men's bathroom.

1015
00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:10,480
Speaker 4: Let's just keep going. Let's go up to the ownership

1016
00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:17,720
Speaker 4: on the third floor. Robert Craft and his son Jonathan

1017
00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:22,040
Speaker 4: Kraft talking. There's no microphones in there, there's nothing only

1018
00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:24,359
Speaker 4: a fly could find out. And the Crafts are worried

1019
00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:26,560
Speaker 4: because they know Belichick has it bugged the whole building.

1020
00:48:26,719 --> 00:48:29,520
Speaker 4: Oh literally has the building bug But they made a

1021
00:48:29,560 --> 00:48:33,440
Speaker 4: special ownership craft only bunker where they can get real,

1022
00:48:33,719 --> 00:48:37,560
Speaker 4: and this fly is peeping a conversation between these two

1023
00:48:37,560 --> 00:48:40,520
Speaker 4: men who believe they should get a little more credit

1024
00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:43,920
Speaker 4: for everything that's happened over the last twenty plus years,

1025
00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:47,279
Speaker 4: and believe that the last three years have been embarrassing.

1026
00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:52,680
Speaker 4: And they especially Robert, because let's be real, Robert is

1027
00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:57,600
Speaker 4: the logan Roy in this situation, and Jonathan is is Connor.

1028
00:48:57,640 --> 00:48:58,120
Speaker 6: I don't know why.

1029
00:48:58,200 --> 00:49:02,000
Speaker 4: I'm that's fine. I made him Connor. That was maybe

1030
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:05,600
Speaker 4: a little That's tough. Robert's looking at his age, he's

1031
00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:07,640
Speaker 4: eighty one years old. He's running out of time.

1032
00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:10,040
Speaker 1: Connor, who ran for president and got less than one

1033
00:49:10,040 --> 00:49:12,640
Speaker 1: percent of the vote, that guy successful campaign.

1034
00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:17,840
Speaker 6: At least make let's make him shive. Let's make Jonathan

1035
00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:19,759
Speaker 6: shive some strengths and weaknesses.

1036
00:49:21,239 --> 00:49:26,400
Speaker 4: He's looking at this Bill Belichick coaching record and saying like, okay,

1037
00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:29,680
Speaker 4: he's only a twenty plus away from breaking the all

1038
00:49:29,719 --> 00:49:33,920
Speaker 4: time record, but he doesn't care. He wants results now.

1039
00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:39,600
Speaker 4: And they're talking. I believe about a situation this year

1040
00:49:40,040 --> 00:49:44,520
Speaker 4: where this team needs to be showing progress on offense,

1041
00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:48,279
Speaker 4: needs to be competitive and have a winning record, or

1042
00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:51,320
Speaker 4: that they want to be steadfast. I believe Robert Kraft

1043
00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:53,799
Speaker 4: is telling his son that before this season, in the

1044
00:49:53,800 --> 00:49:55,759
Speaker 4: off season, the quiet of the off season, the fly

1045
00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:59,440
Speaker 4: is picking up that he wants his son to not

1046
00:49:59,520 --> 00:50:01,480
Speaker 4: let him off the hook when things get hard in

1047
00:50:01,600 --> 00:50:04,960
Speaker 4: January and he has to look Bill Belichick in the eye,

1048
00:50:05,560 --> 00:50:08,040
Speaker 4: that he actually pulls the trigger and he goes in

1049
00:50:08,080 --> 00:50:11,920
Speaker 4: a new direction if this team does not make the playoffs,

1050
00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:14,280
Speaker 4: that he does the type of thing that Bill Belichick

1051
00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:17,120
Speaker 4: was famous for when he Drew Bledsoe or traded Drew

1052
00:50:17,160 --> 00:50:19,279
Speaker 4: Bledsoe and cut lawyer Malloy back in the day, and

1053
00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:23,960
Speaker 4: shows that bloodlust, that ruthlessness unless they're a winning organization

1054
00:50:24,040 --> 00:50:25,279
Speaker 4: again this year, I mean, is.

1055
00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:27,520
Speaker 2: There because we're I agree with it.

1056
00:50:27,560 --> 00:50:29,360
Speaker 1: We've been talking about it like this feels like a

1057
00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:34,240
Speaker 1: pivotal year for Belichick in the marriage between Belichick and Craft,

1058
00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:37,960
Speaker 1: which is again, and it needs to be stated repeatedly,

1059
00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:42,840
Speaker 1: the most successful union of coach and head coach, coach

1060
00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:48,680
Speaker 1: and owner in addition to coach and quarterback. Ever the

1061
00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:51,759
Speaker 1: quarterback left, and ever since the quarterback left, the coach

1062
00:50:51,760 --> 00:50:56,120
Speaker 1: hasn't been quite as successful. And now there's growing tensions

1063
00:50:56,160 --> 00:51:00,520
Speaker 1: between the coach and the owner as an indirect result result,

1064
00:51:00,560 --> 00:51:03,840
Speaker 1: and it's just like, I don't know, like this almost

1065
00:51:03,880 --> 00:51:07,200
Speaker 1: feels still a little bit of a rush to get

1066
00:51:07,239 --> 00:51:10,319
Speaker 1: Belichick out the door unless you have somebody lined up

1067
00:51:10,360 --> 00:51:14,359
Speaker 1: that you absolutely adore and feel like is the guy

1068
00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:16,200
Speaker 1: that could give you another like twenty years.

1069
00:51:16,719 --> 00:51:20,319
Speaker 6: I think they do. Who Mayo. I don't know if

1070
00:51:20,320 --> 00:51:21,759
Speaker 6: that's gonna be right or wrong.

1071
00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:25,400
Speaker 1: We're gonna fire Bill Belichick to take a chance at

1072
00:51:25,400 --> 00:51:26,000
Speaker 1: Girod Mayo.

1073
00:51:26,160 --> 00:51:28,760
Speaker 6: I just think that's what they think.

1074
00:51:29,080 --> 00:51:32,840
Speaker 3: Well, so they yeah, they put in incredible effort to

1075
00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:33,319
Speaker 3: keep Mayo.

1076
00:51:34,239 --> 00:51:35,479
Speaker 5: Kraft has talked up Mayo.

1077
00:51:36,320 --> 00:51:40,319
Speaker 3: Kraft I think had the most pointed comments that you know,

1078
00:51:40,640 --> 00:51:43,440
Speaker 3: subtext were anti Bill Belichick, comments about the way that

1079
00:51:43,480 --> 00:51:46,920
Speaker 3: Matt Patricia essentially was put into a terrible position last year,

1080
00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:49,200
Speaker 3: didn't do a good job, not not a good job

1081
00:51:49,239 --> 00:51:51,800
Speaker 3: by Matt Patricia. But Kraft really went out to defend

1082
00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:54,440
Speaker 3: Matt Patricia that he was an incredibly hard worker and

1083
00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:57,360
Speaker 3: did what he could in a terrible situation. And I

1084
00:51:57,400 --> 00:51:59,360
Speaker 3: don't know, you'd have to dig pretty hard to find

1085
00:51:59,600 --> 00:52:02,440
Speaker 3: comments that reach that level of annoyance with his own

1086
00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:05,880
Speaker 3: head coach that said like Mayo aside or something like that.

1087
00:52:05,880 --> 00:52:07,400
Speaker 3: There's no one else in the building that fits the

1088
00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:10,279
Speaker 3: Bill right now, and I don't know how if you're

1089
00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:12,840
Speaker 3: going to move on from Bill Belichick, you better be right.

1090
00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:15,880
Speaker 4: Right saying I don't think any of this is a

1091
00:52:15,880 --> 00:52:19,480
Speaker 4: good idea to me. Bill Belichick is still a top

1092
00:52:20,200 --> 00:52:23,359
Speaker 4: three defensive coach week to week. I mean, they were

1093
00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:26,160
Speaker 4: number one in DVOA with that unit last year. Somehow,

1094
00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:28,640
Speaker 4: I think they have a chance to be one of

1095
00:52:28,680 --> 00:52:30,680
Speaker 4: the best defensive league this year, which would make them

1096
00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:32,880
Speaker 4: very hard to fire, and they have a chance to

1097
00:52:32,920 --> 00:52:37,000
Speaker 4: surprise people. But I do think this is where craft

1098
00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:41,000
Speaker 4: is at. And it's also not crazy if you had

1099
00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:44,719
Speaker 4: four straight years of mediocrity, there's not many coaches that

1100
00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:46,000
Speaker 4: survived that no matter.

1101
00:52:46,360 --> 00:52:49,120
Speaker 2: But I guess my point is, and again John Mayo

1102
00:52:49,160 --> 00:52:49,720
Speaker 2: could be great.

1103
00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:55,040
Speaker 1: But before you go fire literally Bill Belichick, how about

1104
00:52:55,120 --> 00:52:59,560
Speaker 1: we give Bill a true heir to Brady, an actual

1105
00:52:59,600 --> 00:53:03,239
Speaker 1: difference maker at quarterback, because I washed Cam Newton wasn't

1106
00:53:03,239 --> 00:53:07,360
Speaker 1: that guy. And Mac Jones has ability and has some potential,

1107
00:53:07,600 --> 00:53:10,160
Speaker 1: but there's a reason why nobody had him above the

1108
00:53:10,239 --> 00:53:12,480
Speaker 1: Dalton line when we did that exercise last week. So

1109
00:53:12,520 --> 00:53:15,600
Speaker 1: I don't think anybody sees Jones as a future star, Like,

1110
00:53:15,640 --> 00:53:18,319
Speaker 1: are you really gonna that's how this is gonna end?

1111
00:53:18,440 --> 00:53:20,799
Speaker 3: Like maybe, but here's here's the one problem. Like Bill

1112
00:53:20,840 --> 00:53:24,480
Speaker 3: Belichick is also the general manager, and Bill Belichick made

1113
00:53:24,480 --> 00:53:26,600
Speaker 3: the decision to go get Mac Jones, and he's he's

1114
00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:29,360
Speaker 3: also made a pretty trench in year after your decision.

1115
00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:31,600
Speaker 3: I know they had that free agency splurge a couple

1116
00:53:31,560 --> 00:53:34,840
Speaker 3: off seasons ago, but it's typically been like a weapons

1117
00:53:34,960 --> 00:53:37,839
Speaker 3: light attack. I mean, they're wide receivers for a really

1118
00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:40,160
Speaker 3: long time and just been kind of like you're looking

1119
00:53:40,200 --> 00:53:42,840
Speaker 3: at that group and thinking, eh, and it's like this

1120
00:53:42,920 --> 00:53:45,120
Speaker 3: year's group is sort of like, all right, I don't

1121
00:53:45,160 --> 00:53:46,640
Speaker 3: look at this if this is the year that Bill

1122
00:53:46,680 --> 00:53:50,400
Speaker 3: Belichick suddenly has to pull twelve thirteen wins out of

1123
00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:51,800
Speaker 3: his butt to get to the playoffs.

1124
00:53:51,880 --> 00:53:53,759
Speaker 1: But like, if they go eight to nine this year

1125
00:53:53,920 --> 00:53:57,480
Speaker 1: and decides to pull the trigger and start over, you

1126
00:53:57,520 --> 00:53:59,680
Speaker 1: know who's gonna be thrilled about that? All the other teams,

1127
00:53:59,719 --> 00:54:02,560
Speaker 1: every everybody THEFC.

1128
00:54:02,640 --> 00:54:05,399
Speaker 2: So like not to say that you shouldn't do it, but.

1129
00:54:05,320 --> 00:54:07,120
Speaker 1: It is I think you shouldn't do it. It wouldn't be

1130
00:54:07,160 --> 00:54:10,120
Speaker 1: a celebration. It would be a celebration for these teams.

1131
00:54:10,160 --> 00:54:12,200
Speaker 3: Do you think that Bill Belichick would turn right around

1132
00:54:12,239 --> 00:54:15,359
Speaker 3: al Pacino style and go get a job somewhere else?

1133
00:54:15,400 --> 00:54:16,279
Speaker 6: Oh? Absolutely?

1134
00:54:16,320 --> 00:54:18,280
Speaker 3: Like why not go back to like the Cleveland Browns

1135
00:54:18,280 --> 00:54:21,320
Speaker 3: where he started and say, I'm gonna accept to your No,

1136
00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:22,640
Speaker 3: he wants a good owner like I don't think he

1137
00:54:22,640 --> 00:54:25,120
Speaker 3: would buy buy into that ownership group. But like me,

1138
00:54:25,320 --> 00:54:27,160
Speaker 3: Belichick would be like, are you kidding me? I'm gonna

1139
00:54:27,160 --> 00:54:29,480
Speaker 3: go somewhere else. Not only gonna get the coaching record

1140
00:54:29,680 --> 00:54:32,120
Speaker 3: somewhere else, I'm gonna make sure that I spend the

1141
00:54:32,160 --> 00:54:33,400
Speaker 3: next half a decade sticking in.

1142
00:54:33,560 --> 00:54:36,480
Speaker 1: I'll handpick my quarterback wherever, whenever it pops up that

1143
00:54:36,520 --> 00:54:39,640
Speaker 1: has a great young quarterback and a team a roster

1144
00:54:39,719 --> 00:54:42,160
Speaker 1: that has some juice, I'll go out of my own terms.

1145
00:54:42,200 --> 00:54:43,359
Speaker 5: But it's Tom Brady part two.

1146
00:54:43,560 --> 00:54:45,200
Speaker 6: He's thirty wins away.

1147
00:54:45,600 --> 00:54:48,040
Speaker 5: By the way, Well what if he wins thirty games

1148
00:54:48,040 --> 00:54:48,399
Speaker 5: this year?

1149
00:54:49,120 --> 00:54:51,200
Speaker 2: Oh no, that would be really impressive.

1150
00:54:51,440 --> 00:54:52,879
Speaker 6: There is like a playoffs one.

1151
00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:57,879
Speaker 4: This is why I'm annoyed by NFL, NFL coaching records and.

1152
00:54:57,800 --> 00:54:59,359
Speaker 2: Stuff like that. Got to count the playoff gas.

1153
00:54:59,560 --> 00:55:01,200
Speaker 4: Look, I'm just the fly in the room. I'm not

1154
00:55:01,600 --> 00:55:04,960
Speaker 4: agreen with what you know going on here. I'm just

1155
00:55:05,280 --> 00:55:06,160
Speaker 4: passing along the info.

1156
00:55:06,200 --> 00:55:08,320
Speaker 2: Thank you for the info. Mark you got another one.

1157
00:55:08,840 --> 00:55:12,399
Speaker 3: I am a fly related to some of the other

1158
00:55:12,440 --> 00:55:15,120
Speaker 3: flies that have you know, we were flies. There's a

1159
00:55:15,160 --> 00:55:18,480
Speaker 3: long family tree here and I I I exist for

1160
00:55:18,560 --> 00:55:21,919
Speaker 3: less than a month in southern California. But right here,

1161
00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:24,600
Speaker 3: smack dab in the middle of my twenty eight day lifespan,

1162
00:55:25,080 --> 00:55:30,879
Speaker 3: I find myself in Los Angeles, in the Los Angeles area. Yeah,

1163
00:55:30,960 --> 00:55:35,200
Speaker 3: I've attached myself to a human that is moving briskly

1164
00:55:35,200 --> 00:55:38,879
Speaker 3: down a hallway into a meeting room with a very

1165
00:55:38,920 --> 00:55:42,600
Speaker 3: good looking head coach. I myself, the fly that I'm

1166
00:55:42,640 --> 00:55:45,759
Speaker 3: the person I'm attached to also has an incredible head

1167
00:55:45,760 --> 00:55:47,560
Speaker 3: of hair. I mean, isn't a handsome man also, so

1168
00:55:47,600 --> 00:55:52,240
Speaker 3: it's head coach GM duo is attractive. And they're sitting

1169
00:55:52,239 --> 00:55:54,919
Speaker 3: down and say, look it like, I'm not sure where

1170
00:55:54,960 --> 00:55:56,960
Speaker 3: exactly we are with this team. We are we've built

1171
00:55:56,960 --> 00:56:02,040
Speaker 3: a very very young roster and we've got some problems though,

1172
00:56:02,040 --> 00:56:02,800
Speaker 3: And I think, let's.

1173
00:56:02,640 --> 00:56:04,319
Speaker 2: Just say it. I'm sorry. Is this the fly saying

1174
00:56:04,320 --> 00:56:04,680
Speaker 2: this or.

1175
00:56:04,719 --> 00:56:07,360
Speaker 3: The fly is hearing things like this? And it's you know,

1176
00:56:07,360 --> 00:56:10,760
Speaker 3: there's some muffled conversation. There's some sort of like tapping

1177
00:56:10,800 --> 00:56:13,520
Speaker 3: on the table because there's some indecision here because the

1178
00:56:13,600 --> 00:56:16,040
Speaker 3: roster that they're talking about just looks a little weird.

1179
00:56:16,239 --> 00:56:18,320
Speaker 3: And I keep hearing the name like, look at we

1180
00:56:18,400 --> 00:56:21,840
Speaker 3: love Matthew Stafford, the person. We know that Aaron Donald

1181
00:56:21,920 --> 00:56:24,120
Speaker 3: is one of the greatest defensive players of all time.

1182
00:56:24,360 --> 00:56:27,160
Speaker 3: Cooper Cup is wonderful too. But we have to take

1183
00:56:27,200 --> 00:56:29,520
Speaker 3: a real look in the mirror and say, who are

1184
00:56:29,560 --> 00:56:33,200
Speaker 3: we now for this season, for next season, and how

1185
00:56:33,280 --> 00:56:36,279
Speaker 3: quickly would we move one, two, or three of these

1186
00:56:36,280 --> 00:56:39,520
Speaker 3: players or other additional pieces if we really wanted to

1187
00:56:39,560 --> 00:56:42,520
Speaker 3: embrace the concept of a true startover. Right now, we've

1188
00:56:42,520 --> 00:56:47,760
Speaker 3: got a extremely young roster attached to an aging old

1189
00:56:47,840 --> 00:56:51,719
Speaker 3: quarterback coming off a disastrous injury situation. Who are we

1190
00:56:51,760 --> 00:56:53,719
Speaker 3: and what are we in? The training camp starts in

1191
00:56:53,760 --> 00:56:55,160
Speaker 3: a month and then they go silent.

1192
00:56:56,360 --> 00:56:58,880
Speaker 4: This would be the year to take on some dead money.

1193
00:56:59,480 --> 00:57:02,440
Speaker 4: They are doing it in a way that NFL teams

1194
00:57:02,680 --> 00:57:04,640
Speaker 4: have almost never done it in the history of the sport.

1195
00:57:04,680 --> 00:57:07,360
Speaker 4: I have seventy four million dollars in dead money, so

1196
00:57:07,400 --> 00:57:09,839
Speaker 4: they're just eating it. We talked about the Cardinals eating

1197
00:57:09,880 --> 00:57:12,680
Speaker 4: that Hopkins salary. The Rams been eating it. They got

1198
00:57:13,000 --> 00:57:17,320
Speaker 4: sixty from Alan Robinson, Jalen Ramsey, and Leonard Floyd combined.

1199
00:57:17,320 --> 00:57:19,280
Speaker 4: So I don't think they would mind the financial pain

1200
00:57:19,600 --> 00:57:22,840
Speaker 4: that it would cost to trade Donald or Stafford. Cup

1201
00:57:22,840 --> 00:57:25,480
Speaker 4: would make just no sense to me. So I'm putting

1202
00:57:25,560 --> 00:57:27,480
Speaker 4: him to the side a little bit. But man, I

1203
00:57:27,480 --> 00:57:30,400
Speaker 4: think it'd be tough to get a buy in. I

1204
00:57:30,400 --> 00:57:32,320
Speaker 4: think it'd be tough to think like that right now.

1205
00:57:32,320 --> 00:57:33,960
Speaker 4: I don't think they want to think like that, and

1206
00:57:34,000 --> 00:57:36,960
Speaker 4: I don't think I think it'd be a little crazy

1207
00:57:37,000 --> 00:57:39,040
Speaker 4: to go into the season thinking like that. Maybe that's

1208
00:57:39,040 --> 00:57:41,680
Speaker 4: a week five conversation. Maybe it's a plan ahead.

1209
00:57:41,680 --> 00:57:43,640
Speaker 3: Well, let me ask you a question, like from another angle,

1210
00:57:43,760 --> 00:57:47,120
Speaker 3: like if the Rams. First of all, I think they

1211
00:57:47,960 --> 00:57:49,479
Speaker 3: a year from now, we're going to see the Rams

1212
00:57:49,520 --> 00:57:51,439
Speaker 3: very differently. I think we'll see them in a positive light.

1213
00:57:51,800 --> 00:57:54,880
Speaker 3: But you have Stetson Bennett, who you know comes in

1214
00:57:54,920 --> 00:57:58,320
Speaker 3: with an interesting college career, and why why not get

1215
00:57:58,320 --> 00:58:01,120
Speaker 3: a look at Stetson Bennett sooner than in games that matter?

1216
00:58:01,200 --> 00:58:03,480
Speaker 3: If you're a team that starts off one in three

1217
00:58:03,600 --> 00:58:07,640
Speaker 3: or something, and you go into next year's draft class,

1218
00:58:07,680 --> 00:58:11,280
Speaker 3: which could potentially be explosive at quarterback, And know that

1219
00:58:11,840 --> 00:58:13,560
Speaker 3: you do everything you can if you're less need, because

1220
00:58:13,560 --> 00:58:15,440
Speaker 3: he'll do anything to get what he wants to get

1221
00:58:15,440 --> 00:58:17,760
Speaker 3: the number one quarterback. With all the draft assets that

1222
00:58:17,840 --> 00:58:19,720
Speaker 3: could acquire by trading some of these guys.

1223
00:58:19,480 --> 00:58:22,880
Speaker 4: Stafford specifically would not cost much to move and to me,

1224
00:58:22,960 --> 00:58:24,439
Speaker 4: would make the most sense of it if a team

1225
00:58:24,480 --> 00:58:25,280
Speaker 4: needed a quarterback.

1226
00:58:25,320 --> 00:58:27,920
Speaker 1: I think they want to compete this year. I think

1227
00:58:27,960 --> 00:58:30,280
Speaker 1: the only way we see Bennett is if Stafford gets hurt,

1228
00:58:30,280 --> 00:58:33,960
Speaker 1: which is certainly possible. Yeah, And I just looked it

1229
00:58:34,040 --> 00:58:35,800
Speaker 1: up because I was curious because there was a big

1230
00:58:35,880 --> 00:58:39,240
Speaker 1: hull of bloo obviously about Sean McVay whether he's even

1231
00:58:39,240 --> 00:58:41,320
Speaker 1: going to return this year, and then he was on

1232
00:58:41,360 --> 00:58:43,600
Speaker 1: the fence, and then it actually really looked like it

1233
00:58:43,680 --> 00:58:45,640
Speaker 1: wasn't going to happen, and he given his coaching staff

1234
00:58:45,640 --> 00:58:47,840
Speaker 1: permission to look for other jobs. And then all of

1235
00:58:47,880 --> 00:58:50,080
Speaker 1: a sudden it comes down that he is back, And

1236
00:58:50,120 --> 00:58:51,680
Speaker 1: I was like, well, is this just like a one

1237
00:58:51,760 --> 00:58:53,200
Speaker 1: year thing and this is going to be the way

1238
00:58:53,200 --> 00:58:55,280
Speaker 1: he is now? But looking back at his quotes at

1239
00:58:55,280 --> 00:58:59,120
Speaker 1: the time back in January, he had said that he

1240
00:58:59,200 --> 00:59:01,560
Speaker 1: made a discis for years to come.

1241
00:59:01,680 --> 00:59:04,640
Speaker 2: So obviously you can change. Head coaches are fickle.

1242
00:59:05,080 --> 00:59:08,840
Speaker 1: But I'm working under the idea that they're going to

1243
00:59:08,880 --> 00:59:11,000
Speaker 1: try to ring every last drop they can out of

1244
00:59:11,000 --> 00:59:14,800
Speaker 1: the Stafford Donald era here and see if they could

1245
00:59:14,960 --> 00:59:17,200
Speaker 1: do something similar maybe to what the Seahawks did this

1246
00:59:17,240 --> 00:59:19,680
Speaker 1: past year, where it's like they surprise some people, maybe

1247
00:59:19,720 --> 00:59:22,240
Speaker 1: win nine or ten games they're frisky, or maybe they

1248
00:59:22,280 --> 00:59:25,840
Speaker 1: get into the playoffs and all that, and then even

1249
00:59:25,880 --> 00:59:28,640
Speaker 1: if it doesn't work and Stafford goes down in week

1250
00:59:28,680 --> 00:59:31,640
Speaker 1: four or this or that happens, yeah, then you could

1251
00:59:31,640 --> 00:59:34,520
Speaker 1: start spinning the wheels in a different direction and then

1252
00:59:34,600 --> 00:59:40,680
Speaker 1: McVeigh and Snead can truly reboot the operation next year.

1253
00:59:40,840 --> 00:59:43,320
Speaker 1: So I think they I think, and I think what

1254
00:59:43,360 --> 00:59:46,080
Speaker 1: we do. Sometimes you kind of want to have a

1255
00:59:46,120 --> 00:59:48,480
Speaker 1: more clear idea of what these teams are doing, But

1256
00:59:48,800 --> 00:59:50,480
Speaker 1: the Rams seem like a team. They're kind of in

1257
00:59:50,520 --> 00:59:52,880
Speaker 1: the middle and they're operating that way, and that doesn't

1258
00:59:52,880 --> 00:59:54,200
Speaker 1: mean it's the wrong.

1259
00:59:54,000 --> 00:59:54,480
Speaker 2: Way to do it.

1260
00:59:54,520 --> 00:59:56,960
Speaker 1: Sometimes it's like, oh, that's a half measure. They should

1261
00:59:56,960 --> 00:59:58,760
Speaker 1: be going all in or all out. But they kind

1262
00:59:58,760 --> 01:00:00,960
Speaker 1: of make sense to me to be doing what they're doing,

1263
01:00:01,040 --> 01:00:02,840
Speaker 1: and then they could pivot if they have to.

1264
01:00:02,960 --> 01:00:05,280
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't think NFL rebuilds now if you're

1265
01:00:05,320 --> 01:00:08,720
Speaker 3: good or a season long, and that it projects as

1266
01:00:08,720 --> 01:00:09,960
Speaker 3: a potential one year rebuild.

1267
01:00:10,080 --> 01:00:15,520
Speaker 2: One good draft can really change organizations. You know, like it?

1268
01:00:16,880 --> 01:00:17,400
Speaker 2: I like it?

1269
01:00:17,680 --> 01:00:24,320
Speaker 1: Uh Okay, let me preface this by saying, I'm a

1270
01:00:24,320 --> 01:00:28,840
Speaker 1: fly still. We got that last time, not like the

1271
01:00:29,040 --> 01:00:34,360
Speaker 1: turn of the phrase, you know, unnoticed observer of a

1272
01:00:34,400 --> 01:00:37,040
Speaker 1: particular situation type of thing. I think you met my

1273
01:00:37,080 --> 01:00:37,880
Speaker 1: brother earlier.

1274
01:00:39,240 --> 01:00:44,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, so rather dim insect he Uh well, that's on tour.

1275
01:00:44,160 --> 01:00:45,960
Speaker 3: Maybe not on the scale of a fly, but he.

1276
01:00:45,960 --> 01:00:49,760
Speaker 1: Died of natural causes. He was twenty five days old.

1277
01:00:50,240 --> 01:00:56,240
Speaker 1: I'm quite literally a fly on the wall. And uh,

1278
01:00:56,640 --> 01:00:59,760
Speaker 1: you know, I'm gonna eat some poop. I'm gonna touch

1279
01:00:59,800 --> 01:01:01,760
Speaker 1: a bunch of things I should have spread some disease

1280
01:01:02,920 --> 01:01:06,439
Speaker 1: and and then I'll die again in a month. And

1281
01:01:06,640 --> 01:01:10,120
Speaker 1: I have no agenda, Greg, I know you why never do?

1282
01:01:11,080 --> 01:01:17,040
Speaker 1: Agents can't muzzle me, Greg, So I'll let you decode

1283
01:01:17,080 --> 01:01:19,800
Speaker 1: what was going on when I was buzzing around Brown's

1284
01:01:19,840 --> 01:01:22,560
Speaker 1: camp this week. I went to Brown's. You know, I

1285
01:01:22,680 --> 01:01:28,320
Speaker 1: like certain things I have a particular taste for things fair, yeah,

1286
01:01:28,480 --> 01:01:31,160
Speaker 1: brown things. Anyway, there was this here's here's the situation.

1287
01:01:31,560 --> 01:01:35,120
Speaker 1: There was this this handsome guy kind of like a

1288
01:01:36,520 --> 01:01:41,120
Speaker 1: I think i'll call him like a mezzanine level George Clooney. Okay,

1289
01:01:41,880 --> 01:01:45,600
Speaker 1: there's another guy there that was calling himself the Tasty Berry.

1290
01:01:46,560 --> 01:01:51,640
Speaker 1: I don't know, a silver haired, older gentleman, kind of

1291
01:01:51,640 --> 01:01:56,040
Speaker 1: prominent jaw, kind of like a Springsteenian jaw kept kept

1292
01:01:56,080 --> 01:01:57,920
Speaker 1: referencing his eighteen wheeler collection.

1293
01:01:58,720 --> 01:02:02,880
Speaker 4: It was weird knowledge about like Springsteen and what a

1294
01:02:02,960 --> 01:02:05,680
Speaker 4: mezzanine that, believe even means for a fly.

1295
01:02:05,920 --> 01:02:08,160
Speaker 2: And of course Alex van Pelt was also there.

1296
01:02:09,480 --> 01:02:13,360
Speaker 1: Anyway, they were having an amazing time. In fact, Eric

1297
01:02:13,440 --> 01:02:17,919
Speaker 1: behind the glass, good to see you again. My brother

1298
01:02:18,040 --> 01:02:20,919
Speaker 1: is quite fond of you. I think I did get

1299
01:02:21,080 --> 01:02:23,760
Speaker 1: some audio of what was going on in this room

1300
01:02:23,880 --> 01:02:24,760
Speaker 1: with all these gentlemen.

1301
01:02:30,880 --> 01:02:33,240
Speaker 6: You hear that, Yeah, sounds like a lot of fun.

1302
01:02:33,320 --> 01:02:34,959
Speaker 2: They were having an amazing time.

1303
01:02:36,080 --> 01:02:39,280
Speaker 1: Drinks were flowing, they were throwing like popcorn in each

1304
01:02:39,320 --> 01:02:40,560
Speaker 1: other's mouths playfully.

1305
01:02:41,440 --> 01:02:43,680
Speaker 2: They did a couple of crank calls.

1306
01:02:44,080 --> 01:02:47,280
Speaker 1: That guy, the Clooney guy, kept saying something about the

1307
01:02:47,440 --> 01:02:49,200
Speaker 1: jerky boys being underrated.

1308
01:02:49,240 --> 01:02:51,280
Speaker 2: I didn't know any of that meant.

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01:02:51,680 --> 01:02:53,640
Speaker 1: But this is all happening while they were watching some

1310
01:02:53,920 --> 01:02:59,160
Speaker 1: endless highlight cutup of Texans games. I'm guessing from like

1311
01:02:59,280 --> 01:03:03,439
Speaker 1: when my great great great great great great grandfather was alive.

1312
01:03:03,480 --> 01:03:09,560
Speaker 1: I'm thinking like twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen, some from twenty twenty.

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01:03:09,600 --> 01:03:11,960
Speaker 2: I knew because there's nobody in the stands. Must have

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01:03:11,960 --> 01:03:12,640
Speaker 2: been the covid era.

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01:03:13,960 --> 01:03:17,400
Speaker 1: Anyway, they were loving these highlights and seems pretty optimistic

1316
01:03:17,400 --> 01:03:19,600
Speaker 1: about their place in life. They had not a care

1317
01:03:19,640 --> 01:03:24,680
Speaker 1: in the world. And you tell me what this means.

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01:03:24,760 --> 01:03:27,760
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm just a fly. So what does it

1319
01:03:27,840 --> 01:03:28,240
Speaker 1: all mean?

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01:03:29,040 --> 01:03:33,520
Speaker 3: I uh, I will thrust my own personal experience into

1321
01:03:33,600 --> 01:03:34,440
Speaker 3: a part of this.

1322
01:03:34,560 --> 01:03:36,400
Speaker 2: Did I mention they were having sloppy steaks too?

1323
01:03:36,880 --> 01:03:39,439
Speaker 1: No, they were taking the They're taking glasses of water,

1324
01:03:39,600 --> 01:03:42,800
Speaker 1: pouring it over these steaks, slopping them up and just

1325
01:03:42,960 --> 01:03:44,120
Speaker 1: eating up with the steaks too.

1326
01:03:44,200 --> 01:03:46,240
Speaker 5: How did you resist not eating?

1327
01:03:46,560 --> 01:03:50,280
Speaker 2: Oh? I went down there. I took a taste. Put

1328
01:03:50,320 --> 01:03:50,720
Speaker 2: it that way.

1329
01:03:50,880 --> 01:03:53,960
Speaker 3: There is someone on the on the Brown's coaching staff who,

1330
01:03:54,040 --> 01:03:57,080
Speaker 3: on the first day he was hired, came on our

1331
01:03:57,120 --> 01:04:00,800
Speaker 3: network NFL Network and spoke with Andrew Sicilia and I

1332
01:04:00,800 --> 01:04:05,400
Speaker 3: had tweeted out that Kevin Stefanski, the coach newly hired

1333
01:04:05,400 --> 01:04:08,760
Speaker 3: coach side by side photos, did look like a relative

1334
01:04:08,880 --> 01:04:11,720
Speaker 3: or a brother or a cousin of George Clooney, and

1335
01:04:12,360 --> 01:04:16,520
Speaker 3: Cileano actually asked, you were that someone I tweeted that out, Yes,

1336
01:04:16,560 --> 01:04:20,200
Speaker 3: but someone like Andrew asked uh Stefanski about it, and

1337
01:04:20,200 --> 01:04:22,920
Speaker 3: he got very kind of agitated and slightly nervous. So

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01:04:22,920 --> 01:04:25,000
Speaker 3: that was my introduction. I think that's who you're talking about, though,

1339
01:04:25,000 --> 01:04:26,200
Speaker 3: That's why.

1340
01:04:25,800 --> 01:04:28,919
Speaker 4: You were connecting the dots, right the mezzanine mezzin, Well,

1341
01:04:28,920 --> 01:04:32,480
Speaker 4: he didn't like that people were calling him mezzanine level. Clooney, well,

1342
01:04:32,480 --> 01:04:34,800
Speaker 4: that's true. And who was a juicy berry. That's got

1343
01:04:34,840 --> 01:04:37,800
Speaker 4: to be the it's got to be the general manager.

1344
01:04:38,000 --> 01:04:40,760
Speaker 4: I think they're feeling themselves. I think they're they're feeling

1345
01:04:40,920 --> 01:04:43,920
Speaker 4: like they're a sleeping giant here. I think they're feeling

1346
01:04:43,920 --> 01:04:46,120
Speaker 4: good about their off season moves. I think they believe

1347
01:04:46,200 --> 01:04:51,640
Speaker 4: the hype that happened around this organization for a couple

1348
01:04:51,760 --> 01:04:56,000
Speaker 4: off seasons before Baker Mayfield's injury and then play and

1349
01:04:56,040 --> 01:04:59,160
Speaker 4: then this Watson thing all took took a side there,

1350
01:04:59,200 --> 01:05:00,560
Speaker 4: and I think they're feeling themselves.

1351
01:05:00,960 --> 01:05:02,040
Speaker 6: I think they're confident.

1352
01:05:03,320 --> 01:05:05,200
Speaker 3: I think they quietly had one of the better off

1353
01:05:05,240 --> 01:05:09,520
Speaker 3: seasons around. Their holes were in the middle of their

1354
01:05:09,520 --> 01:05:12,520
Speaker 3: defense up front. They had some issues in the secondary.

1355
01:05:12,520 --> 01:05:15,080
Speaker 3: They've added pieces all over the place. The Elijah Moore trade.

1356
01:05:15,120 --> 01:05:17,919
Speaker 3: Don't hate that. And I think it all comes down

1357
01:05:17,920 --> 01:05:20,600
Speaker 3: to whether or not Watson can play again. That's fine

1358
01:05:20,600 --> 01:05:22,480
Speaker 3: to look at that the people that you observe for

1359
01:05:22,560 --> 01:05:24,280
Speaker 3: watching these highlights from three years ago.

1360
01:05:24,520 --> 01:05:26,480
Speaker 5: But I could watch a lot of what's happening.

1361
01:05:26,680 --> 01:05:28,800
Speaker 2: I don't know. Something in my chest was it?

1362
01:05:28,840 --> 01:05:31,640
Speaker 1: The stake about twenty seven days old, So I don't

1363
01:05:31,680 --> 01:05:33,480
Speaker 1: have much time. I just want to say, like, wrap

1364
01:05:33,480 --> 01:05:35,680
Speaker 1: it up. I just want to wrap it up, say

1365
01:05:35,840 --> 01:05:36,960
Speaker 1: thanks for having me on the show.

1366
01:05:37,120 --> 01:05:41,400
Speaker 6: Shout out to Alex van Pelt too. I thought he

1367
01:05:41,520 --> 01:05:43,200
Speaker 6: was a great, good, great addition.

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01:05:44,160 --> 01:05:49,440
Speaker 1: I yeah, I think they believe that. And the small

1369
01:05:49,440 --> 01:05:52,800
Speaker 1: sample size we'll see it was bad last year, but

1370
01:05:53,600 --> 01:05:56,360
Speaker 1: I bet they feel like they are going to surprise them.

1371
01:05:56,360 --> 01:06:00,240
Speaker 4: The only thing that Juicy Berry and Mezzanine Clooney be

1372
01:06:00,280 --> 01:06:03,920
Speaker 4: worried about is that, uh, that eighteen wheeler guy. Yeah,

1373
01:06:04,000 --> 01:06:07,120
Speaker 4: I mean he hasn't always been keeping his his UH

1374
01:06:07,240 --> 01:06:10,960
Speaker 4: employees around that long if things don't don't end up

1375
01:06:11,000 --> 01:06:11,760
Speaker 4: in the win column.

1376
01:06:11,760 --> 01:06:13,360
Speaker 6: So I think they got to win. I think they're

1377
01:06:13,400 --> 01:06:16,680
Speaker 6: I think they're under pressure. I gotta win. But you

1378
01:06:16,760 --> 01:06:18,400
Speaker 6: might as well enjoy the off season. What was that?

1379
01:06:18,400 --> 01:06:20,800
Speaker 6: I mean they were really enjoying.

1380
01:06:20,920 --> 01:06:22,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's bring that up. I got that on my

1381
01:06:22,560 --> 01:06:24,280
Speaker 2: UH off seas on my iPhone.

1382
01:06:26,600 --> 01:06:27,200
Speaker 6: What a time.

1383
01:06:29,560 --> 01:06:31,400
Speaker 5: So one of them is really.

1384
01:06:32,960 --> 01:06:36,080
Speaker 6: What production. I love it.

1385
01:06:38,840 --> 01:06:40,240
Speaker 5: I think I heard Van Pelton there.

1386
01:06:40,760 --> 01:06:43,439
Speaker 1: Oh Van pelt Is he was He had just tie

1387
01:06:43,440 --> 01:06:45,000
Speaker 1: off and then tied it around his head like that

1388
01:06:45,000 --> 01:06:46,320
Speaker 1: guy at the weddings.

1389
01:06:45,920 --> 01:06:47,360
Speaker 5: Lathered up Fredday kitchen style.

1390
01:06:47,800 --> 01:06:50,000
Speaker 2: You know that guy at the weddings. Yeah, like take

1391
01:06:50,040 --> 01:06:53,920
Speaker 2: the off all right? Anything else?

1392
01:06:54,880 --> 01:06:56,880
Speaker 4: Well, I was listening to our that first show I

1393
01:06:56,960 --> 01:07:01,680
Speaker 4: mentioned earlier, and uh, I don't know, I just was.

1394
01:07:01,720 --> 01:07:04,880
Speaker 4: I heard Wes on it and we were talking about

1395
01:07:05,120 --> 01:07:09,720
Speaker 4: the panthers. I tried to think about panthers angle today

1396
01:07:09,720 --> 01:07:11,080
Speaker 4: to talk about, but I was like, no, let's just

1397
01:07:11,120 --> 01:07:14,840
Speaker 4: play this on the show. Because it was talking about Spartanburg,

1398
01:07:15,320 --> 01:07:17,479
Speaker 4: West Virginia. And I always like to have a little

1399
01:07:17,480 --> 01:07:21,240
Speaker 4: bit of ATM history around the NFL history which he

1400
01:07:21,360 --> 01:07:22,880
Speaker 4: mentioned on the show.

1401
01:07:23,640 --> 01:07:28,120
Speaker 7: Spartanburg has some historical significance to this podcast. That is

1402
01:07:28,160 --> 01:07:30,560
Speaker 7: the exit I pulled over when I called Greg to

1403
01:07:30,640 --> 01:07:34,000
Speaker 7: accept this job. I was driving from Cincinnati back to Tiving,

1404
01:07:34,080 --> 01:07:37,000
Speaker 7: stopped at the Spartanburg exit. Tell Greg was I was leaving?

1405
01:07:37,440 --> 01:07:41,400
Speaker 2: Was there a shrine there? I like that dude just

1406
01:07:41,520 --> 01:07:44,640
Speaker 2: jumping in hearing his voice, awesome.

1407
01:07:45,520 --> 01:07:49,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I had checked in on another older episode of

1408
01:07:49,200 --> 01:07:54,600
Speaker 1: this segment and it was he was talking about he

1409
01:07:54,640 --> 01:07:57,960
Speaker 1: wanted to be a fly at the Giants facility to

1410
01:07:57,960 --> 01:08:02,000
Speaker 1: see the trow of it's a trout troth kool aid,

1411
01:08:02,600 --> 01:08:04,800
Speaker 1: and just to see what media members were drinking out

1412
01:08:04,800 --> 01:08:07,640
Speaker 1: of it. For Dave Gettleman, his arrow at the Giants,

1413
01:08:07,680 --> 01:08:09,400
Speaker 1: that's all. He wanted to be there, just to see.

1414
01:08:09,880 --> 01:08:13,680
Speaker 1: And we noticed that Bob Glauber was from Newsday now retired,

1415
01:08:13,800 --> 01:08:16,880
Speaker 1: was just sitting in a chair watching it. But Chris

1416
01:08:16,960 --> 01:08:19,840
Speaker 1: just wanted to know which Giants media member would would

1417
01:08:19,840 --> 01:08:21,800
Speaker 1: be bending over for Gettleman.

1418
01:08:21,520 --> 01:08:23,320
Speaker 3: Not the biggest fan of the New York media market.

1419
01:08:23,400 --> 01:08:27,040
Speaker 3: Chris or Gettleman, right, you like the hog Kali era. Yeah,

1420
01:08:27,040 --> 01:08:28,720
Speaker 3: I think there was some pro gettlement in there.

1421
01:08:30,520 --> 01:08:35,639
Speaker 1: Nice, excellent, Uh, what's up. That's it. We'll be back

1422
01:08:35,680 --> 01:08:43,320
Speaker 1: on Thursday with a another show. Actually it's going to

1423
01:08:43,320 --> 01:08:46,120
Speaker 1: be a road show. It's our annual road show. We're

1424
01:08:46,120 --> 01:08:50,000
Speaker 1: gonna be by the beach by the Sea, we'll call it.

1425
01:08:50,040 --> 01:08:54,479
Speaker 1: We're gonna have hopefully some special guests that will be

1426
01:08:54,600 --> 01:08:57,280
Speaker 1: joining us and Greg. We maybe we'll touch on your

1427
01:08:58,040 --> 01:08:59,599
Speaker 1: done with a lot of hard work you've been doing

1428
01:08:59,640 --> 01:09:01,639
Speaker 1: over on the dot com.

1429
01:09:02,040 --> 01:09:05,360
Speaker 6: Projected starter series is done. It's done and dusted.

1430
01:09:05,560 --> 01:09:08,320
Speaker 1: We bet we love doing some like some takeaways from

1431
01:09:08,360 --> 01:09:09,599
Speaker 1: Greg's projected starters.

1432
01:09:09,680 --> 01:09:10,200
Speaker 2: We'll hit that.

1433
01:09:10,360 --> 01:09:14,000
Speaker 3: And it reads like a very juicy gossip column. Often

1434
01:09:14,040 --> 01:09:15,400
Speaker 3: it's it's a good well, it's a good read because

1435
01:09:15,400 --> 01:09:18,719
Speaker 3: it's it's not like a typical column or sports writing

1436
01:09:18,760 --> 01:09:20,840
Speaker 3: piece of work. It's just like little nuggets and things

1437
01:09:20,840 --> 01:09:22,519
Speaker 3: that interest you for each team, little.

1438
01:09:22,439 --> 01:09:26,200
Speaker 1: Nugs and so that. So be ready for that, looking

1439
01:09:26,200 --> 01:09:29,439
Speaker 1: forward to that as the off season goes along. And uh,

1440
01:09:29,479 --> 01:09:32,360
Speaker 1: this is the Tuesday show. Here also happens to be

1441
01:09:33,640 --> 01:09:37,599
Speaker 1: our former producer, Justin Gravers. He's starting his first day

1442
01:09:38,520 --> 01:09:43,599
Speaker 1: at a new place and just want to uh, we

1443
01:09:43,640 --> 01:09:47,160
Speaker 1: want to take this time just to wish Justin the

1444
01:09:47,160 --> 01:09:52,920
Speaker 1: best of luck moving forward. And we missed having Justin

1445
01:09:52,960 --> 01:09:55,679
Speaker 1: around and he's such a great asset to the show,

1446
01:09:56,120 --> 01:09:58,439
Speaker 1: which he was still here, but he is there and

1447
01:09:58,479 --> 01:10:00,400
Speaker 1: he's gonna kill it. So we just want to give

1448
01:10:00,760 --> 01:10:04,160
Speaker 1: Grave Digger a shout out on the route Mount Rushmore.

1449
01:10:05,120 --> 01:10:07,400
Speaker 4: If you followed our socials, you saw we we had

1450
01:10:07,400 --> 01:10:11,160
Speaker 4: a chance to have dinner with Justin two just a

1451
01:10:11,200 --> 01:10:14,080
Speaker 4: few weeks ago and just couldn't thank him enough for

1452
01:10:14,120 --> 01:10:16,920
Speaker 4: the great job that he did in the in the

1453
01:10:17,000 --> 01:10:19,559
Speaker 4: couple of years that he was here one year running

1454
01:10:19,640 --> 01:10:23,280
Speaker 4: the show around the NFL really helped us a lot.

1455
01:10:23,360 --> 01:10:25,040
Speaker 4: And we love him as a as a friend, we

1456
01:10:25,080 --> 01:10:27,559
Speaker 4: love him as a producer too, So good luck over

1457
01:10:27,600 --> 01:10:30,240
Speaker 4: at Fox and uh, well we'll run into him down

1458
01:10:30,240 --> 01:10:30,840
Speaker 4: the line to it.

1459
01:10:31,280 --> 01:10:31,479
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1460
01:10:31,520 --> 01:10:35,040
Speaker 3: I thought he was so professional from the very start.

1461
01:10:35,080 --> 01:10:36,840
Speaker 3: I think when you cover football, we all learned this

1462
01:10:36,960 --> 01:10:39,400
Speaker 3: that the first year you kind of take over something,

1463
01:10:39,439 --> 01:10:41,160
Speaker 3: there's a lot of bier rhythms to the season and

1464
01:10:41,240 --> 01:10:43,559
Speaker 3: can catch you by surprise, and he was just rarely,

1465
01:10:43,640 --> 01:10:47,479
Speaker 3: if never caught by surprise. I thought he offered so

1466
01:10:47,640 --> 01:10:51,799
Speaker 3: much behind the scenes on air, he became a beloved figure.

1467
01:10:51,920 --> 01:10:54,280
Speaker 3: And I kind of look back to our trip to London,

1468
01:10:54,760 --> 01:10:56,920
Speaker 3: which is a time when we all get get closer

1469
01:10:56,960 --> 01:10:59,200
Speaker 3: together as people. R I really got to know him

1470
01:10:59,200 --> 01:11:00,920
Speaker 3: more as a person in the has sort of always

1471
01:11:00,920 --> 01:11:04,000
Speaker 3: been a kindness and a gentleness to him.

1472
01:11:04,800 --> 01:11:05,720
Speaker 5: And we'll miss him.

1473
01:11:05,800 --> 01:11:08,280
Speaker 2: Yep. One of the true nice guys. And you're right.

1474
01:11:08,320 --> 01:11:11,400
Speaker 2: You have to to be in that chair.

1475
01:11:12,000 --> 01:11:13,519
Speaker 1: You have to be able to roll with the punches

1476
01:11:13,640 --> 01:11:17,160
Speaker 1: and adjust and and learn on the fly and fly

1477
01:11:17,360 --> 01:11:20,519
Speaker 1: nailed it and Justin always did that and he'll continue

1478
01:11:20,560 --> 01:11:21,000
Speaker 1: to do that.

1479
01:11:21,080 --> 01:11:22,200
Speaker 2: And we love you, Justin Graver.

1480
01:11:22,280 --> 01:11:31,240
Speaker 1: How about one less grave digger drop if we got there.

1481
01:11:27,560 --> 01:11:29,880
Speaker 6: The love your grave digger love you Bud.

1482
01:11:29,920 --> 01:11:33,240
Speaker 1: All right, we'll be back on Thursday, like we said,

1483
01:11:33,400 --> 01:11:35,840
Speaker 1: road show. Until then, you know what.

1484
01:11:35,720 --> 01:11:39,639
Speaker 2: You need to do. It's Chris Wesley. He was known

1485
01:11:39,680 --> 01:11:43,639
Speaker 2: to say he the call