1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,600 Speaker 1: The French finance minister, Antoine Armand says that the government 2 00:00:03,920 --> 00:00:07,880 Speaker 1: won't accept ultimatums from Marine Le penn over a new 3 00:00:07,920 --> 00:00:10,880 Speaker 1: budget law, even as the far right leader gave her 4 00:00:10,960 --> 00:00:15,239 Speaker 1: strongest indications yet that she will topple the administration as 5 00:00:15,320 --> 00:00:18,600 Speaker 1: soon as this week. Of course, her party in parliament 6 00:00:18,600 --> 00:00:21,680 Speaker 1: has the largest number of seats. Altoine Armand has been 7 00:00:21,720 --> 00:00:24,919 Speaker 1: speaking to Bloomberg's Caroline Cunnel in Paris. 8 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:28,440 Speaker 2: Let us be very clear, Francis is on the right track. 9 00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:33,080 Speaker 2: France's economy has got very solid arguments and it needs 10 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:35,800 Speaker 2: to be repeated. First of all, as you know, we 11 00:00:35,880 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 2: expect a growth of one point one persons in twenteen 12 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:43,040 Speaker 2: thirty four. It will be above the Eurozone average. Second, 13 00:00:43,320 --> 00:00:46,400 Speaker 2: we have an inflation under the two percent, which is 14 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:49,440 Speaker 2: now stable. And third of all needs to be said, 15 00:00:49,800 --> 00:00:52,680 Speaker 2: we have an unemployment which is at its lowest in 16 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:55,920 Speaker 2: forty years in French, in France, so we have a 17 00:00:55,960 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 2: strong economy. We have solid arguments, and last but not least, 18 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:04,000 Speaker 2: we have a clear perspective. Our government, Michelle Barnie's government 19 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:07,360 Speaker 2: has a clear commitment to reduce the deficit. It will 20 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:08,720 Speaker 2: be done. It needs to be done. 21 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:11,160 Speaker 3: It needs to be done, but it's getting very difficult 22 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:15,440 Speaker 3: this week because obviously your government faces a possible motion 23 00:01:15,560 --> 00:01:19,240 Speaker 3: of no confidence and could collapse as soon as this week. 24 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:23,400 Speaker 3: Michelle Banie, the Prime Minister, has already made some concessions, 25 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:27,560 Speaker 3: including on prices of electricity. What other concessions are you 26 00:01:27,640 --> 00:01:30,200 Speaker 3: ready to make? Are you ready to tell us today 27 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:33,520 Speaker 3: in order for Marine nupen from the national reality to 28 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:35,759 Speaker 3: abstain from a vote of no confidence. 29 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:40,040 Speaker 2: You're right to remind that my Prime Minister, Michelle Bannie, 30 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 2: is a man of dialogue and compromise and this government 31 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:47,360 Speaker 2: in the last week has clearly demonstrated its willingness to 32 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:51,960 Speaker 2: ensure that Friends could have a budget through evolution in 33 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 2: the budget. And let me remind also that the parliamentary 34 00:01:55,440 --> 00:01:58,320 Speaker 2: debate is still ongoing and we have to wait until 35 00:01:58,320 --> 00:02:02,560 Speaker 2: the end of this debate. But as you said, Friends, 36 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:05,640 Speaker 2: as a critical time, we have the arguments, we have 37 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:09,320 Speaker 2: the fundamentals, we have a perspective to reduce public spending 38 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 2: and to cut boring, which is very important for Friends, 39 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:18,040 Speaker 2: but for Europe as well. So let's say, let's remind 40 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:21,720 Speaker 2: the political leaders in France that we have a common 41 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:27,920 Speaker 2: responsibility and that this common responsibility includes voting, adopting passing 42 00:02:27,919 --> 00:02:28,400 Speaker 2: a budget. 43 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:31,359 Speaker 3: Does that mean there's going to be more compromise, more 44 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:34,720 Speaker 3: concessions before Monday night, which is the deadline that my 45 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:35,800 Speaker 3: Inupien has given you. 46 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:39,880 Speaker 2: As I said, the French government doesn't take multim atoms. 47 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 2: It's looking at the French parliamentary debate. It's respecting every 48 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:48,960 Speaker 2: each and every parliamentary debate that leads to an evolution. 49 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:52,160 Speaker 2: We will take into account what is changing, but we 50 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:55,720 Speaker 2: won't be blackmailed. We are committed to reduce the deficit. 51 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 3: I understand you're willing to perhaps compromise, but mine open 52 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:03,000 Speaker 3: has some speed. The seafly concessions she wants from the government, 53 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:07,639 Speaker 3: including that all pensions be indexed on infation as soon 54 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:10,919 Speaker 3: as January, and she also wants the government to give 55 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:16,280 Speaker 3: up this plan to abandon some drug reinforcement on these 56 00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:20,919 Speaker 3: two specific topics. Is there any way to have more 57 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:22,840 Speaker 3: concessions from the government. 58 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:27,600 Speaker 2: Let's just not just focus on the for assemble mon 59 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:31,399 Speaker 2: nacional because as you know, but it's key, it's key, 60 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:34,120 Speaker 2: but it's not enough. And as you say, for a 61 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 2: vote of confidence to be adopted at the French parliament, 62 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 2: you would need to have the Socialist Party, the left 63 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:43,440 Speaker 2: parties to vote with the far right parties. So it 64 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:46,720 Speaker 2: would not only be the responsibility of Marine Lupezz party, 65 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:51,960 Speaker 2: it would also be the responsibility of French socialists, French ecologists, 66 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:55,760 Speaker 2: people who are willing to oppose to Marine Lupin to 67 00:03:55,880 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 2: vote together. It would be a very bad signal politically 68 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:03,320 Speaker 2: an economically for these countries, for our country, and for 69 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:06,760 Speaker 2: these parties who are saying and claiming that they could 70 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 2: say government parties. 71 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 3: Does that mean you're trying to negotiate with the Socialist Party, 72 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 3: not the National Valuy. 73 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:17,200 Speaker 2: We are not focused on with whom we negotiate or not. 74 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 2: As I said, the government is a government of dialogue, 75 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 2: of respect of co construction. This budget, this budget has 76 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:26,839 Speaker 2: been co constructed. It's not the result of just a 77 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:30,920 Speaker 2: government project. It's evolving within the days and the weeks 78 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:33,840 Speaker 2: of the parliamentary debate will still be open. But not 79 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:34,440 Speaker 2: to blackmail. 80 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:38,120 Speaker 3: You're not open to blackmail. But the thing that my 81 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:43,240 Speaker 3: independent wants really is for the government to respect That's 82 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:47,000 Speaker 3: what she says, to respect the electorate of the National Valuy. 83 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:50,600 Speaker 3: Are you willing to say that the concessions you've already made, 84 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:53,279 Speaker 3: for example, are thanks to the National valuy and that 85 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:54,680 Speaker 3: you respect her electorate. 86 00:04:55,680 --> 00:04:59,560 Speaker 2: We respect every each and every MP, and we respect 87 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:03,200 Speaker 2: each and every people in France, whatever they decided to 88 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:05,919 Speaker 2: vote or not to vote, of course, but what's my 89 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 2: responsibility as a finance minister is to commit to the 90 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 2: five percent target that we decided to have at the 91 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:16,240 Speaker 2: beginning of our mandates, not only for friends or for 92 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:19,960 Speaker 2: the government, because it's now needed in order that Europe 93 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:24,760 Speaker 2: still remain a country, a continent of prosperity. That's what 94 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:28,040 Speaker 2: we aim at, and for that we need all political 95 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:29,320 Speaker 2: leader to be responsible. 96 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:32,680 Speaker 3: With these concessions that we've seen in the budget, they're 97 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:34,400 Speaker 3: going to cost about ten billion euros. 98 00:05:34,440 --> 00:05:35,160 Speaker 2: Does that mean you can. 99 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:37,919 Speaker 3: Actually keep this five percent deficit target or do you 100 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:40,360 Speaker 3: believe perhaps it will be slightly higher, like five point 101 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:42,320 Speaker 3: five or perhaps higher. 102 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 2: As I told you, our commitment to reduce the budget 103 00:05:45,960 --> 00:05:49,720 Speaker 2: deficit towards five percent in twenty twenty five and towards 104 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:53,679 Speaker 2: three percent in twenty twenty nine is not an option. 105 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:58,480 Speaker 2: It is something something we are very carefully looking at. 106 00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 2: What does that mean you can actually it means that yes, 107 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 2: it means that at every time that we made adjustments 108 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:10,680 Speaker 2: on our budget, we compensated it with saving with new measures. 109 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:15,200 Speaker 2: It's clearly an important point to underline here. We all 110 00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:19,040 Speaker 2: committed to this five percent target in twenty twenty five 111 00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:24,120 Speaker 1: So that was Fances Finance Minister Antoine Armor speaking to 112 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 1: our own Caroline Connot in Paris