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Speaker 1: NFL Matchup on ESPN. Greg co Sell with his weekly

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Speaker 1: think he is a cap. He brings a cap a

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Speaker 1: sealing as to how good the Buffalo offense can be.

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Speaker 1: There are certain throws that he doesn't make well. He

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Speaker 1: obviously reads the field well, sees the field, knows the offense,

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Speaker 1: makes good smart decisions, gets rid of the ball quickly.

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Speaker 1: I think he showed a little zip on some passes

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Speaker 1: over the last week or two the last couple of

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Speaker 1: games that we had not seen before. But I think

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Speaker 1: there's a cap. I think there's a limit on how

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Speaker 1: good he can be and how good the Buffalo passing

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Speaker 1: offense might be with him in there. That's my major

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Speaker 1: concern with Nathan Peterman. I think you're probably right he

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Speaker 1: has a limited quarterback. There is a reason he was

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Speaker 1: taken where he was in the draft a couple of

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Speaker 1: years ago. And those throws that you're talking about, the

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Speaker 1: one that stands out more than anything is when he's

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Speaker 1: throwing it to the out of bounds area on an

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Speaker 1: out or a comeback and he just can't get the

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Speaker 1: proper zip on it, and then the placement sometimes ends

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Speaker 1: up behind the receiver and even if the cornerbacks are

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Speaker 1: giving a cushion to the actual receiver, they can jump

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Speaker 1: up and get it. There was almost a pick six

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Speaker 1: for the Bengals last night because of that exact instance. Yep.

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Speaker 1: We also saw it against the LA Chargers. That was

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Speaker 1: one of the picks. We saw it at the end

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Speaker 1: of the Jacksonville game when he came in for Tyrod Taylor.

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Speaker 1: When he came in, he did that exact pass. Jalen

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Speaker 1: Ramsey jumped it and had that nice little interception that

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Speaker 1: he had. So those are legitimate concerns for him. But

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Speaker 1: when he's throwing it over the middle, he's throwing it

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Speaker 1: with confidence. It seems like he has a good grasp

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Speaker 1: on the offense. I agree, and that's why they might

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Speaker 1: be more comfortable moving into space exactly and with an

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Speaker 1: offensive line that they have if he's getting the ball

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Speaker 1: out in two to three seconds. I think for them,

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Speaker 1: they understand that Nathan Peter isn't forever. He might be

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Speaker 1: a forever backup for him because they do like him,

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Speaker 1: but I think they understand that he's there until Josh

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Speaker 1: is ready, and for right now, that's probably good enough.

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Speaker 1: He hasn't blinked yet. I talked about mccaren blinking. Alan

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Speaker 1: blinked a little bit last night. Peterman hasn't blinked. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: well you said it, and I've heard people say it.

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Speaker 1: When you say until Josh is ready, I almost feel

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Speaker 1: like this offense isn't ready for Josh Allen. In particular,

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Speaker 1: the offensive line is fairny for complete rookie quarterback will

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Speaker 1: present to them, you know what I mean. He might

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Speaker 1: not get rid of the ball as quickly as a

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Speaker 1: second year man like Nathan Peterman. He's a little bit

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Speaker 1: different than Peterman, a lot different, And maybe the offensive

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Speaker 1: and the offensive line is not ready for Josh Allen

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Speaker 1: as opposed to the other way around. He's not ready

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Speaker 1: for them. I will say Allen is better equipped to

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Speaker 1: deal with pressure than the Nathan Peterman is. But at

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Speaker 1: the same vein, you don't want to turn that into normalcy.

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Speaker 1: You don't want that to be his automatic design when

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Speaker 1: he goes into a game, and you don't want his

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Speaker 1: career to start that way, right, So I don't I

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Speaker 1: think you need to find some cohesiveness with the offensive

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Speaker 1: line before you think, before you think about it, put

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Speaker 1: him in a situation to succeed, as opposed to throw

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Speaker 1: him out there and see what he can do. If

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Speaker 1: he came out there and played like Gangbusters yesterday, by

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Speaker 1: all means, would have seen, Okay, he's ready. He can

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Speaker 1: deal with the pressure, because that pressure would have been

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Speaker 1: there one way or the other if he dealt with

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Speaker 1: that in a better way than maybe. But since it's

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Speaker 1: still looking like he has some rookie tendencies, you have

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Speaker 1: to think to yourself, all right, let's just maybe pump

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Speaker 1: the brakes a little bit. Let's recalibrate, figure out what's

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Speaker 1: going on with the offensive line, if this is a

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Speaker 1: unit that can be successful, if we have to make

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Speaker 1: any changes as the season kind of goes along here,

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Speaker 1: and then when it's optimal or when Josh shows some

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Speaker 1: signs in practice, then insert him into the lineup. It's

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Speaker 1: not a matter of if, it's when, with what part

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Speaker 1: of this season is Josh Allen going to take over

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Speaker 1: the starting job, because once they do that, I mean

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Speaker 1: it's obvious you cannot go back from that. You cannot

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Speaker 1: play ping pong with your rookie quarterback that you you

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Speaker 1: took in the top ten. You have to decide when

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Speaker 1: he's fully ready, and there's so many different factors to

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Speaker 1: do it. So I just I just don't know if

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Speaker 1: I'd be comfortable with him being out there right away.

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Speaker 1: I'd love to see it just from a viewing perspective,

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Speaker 1: but if you're looking for the long term success here,

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Speaker 1: I don't know that i'd be comfortable with Josh playing

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Speaker 1: right away. Yeah, a lot to talk about most of

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Speaker 1: its quarterbacks. Give us a call eight oh three five

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Speaker 1: fifty outside Buffalo toll free one eight eight five fifty

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Speaker 1: two five fifty. Jobascali is here for Steve Tasker. Here

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Speaker 1: for a couple of days. Let's work in a call

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Speaker 1: or two. Here's Pat on Grand Island. Pat, go ahead,

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Speaker 1: you're on the air with us. Hello, Pat, Pat is gone?

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Speaker 1: How about Kathy in Springville? Kathy are you there? Well?

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Speaker 1: Hang on, that's my bed. Let's switch one thing over here.

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Speaker 1: Let me start again, Pat on Grand Island, Pat, are

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Speaker 1: you there now? Yeah? Sorry about that, Pat, my bed? Okay.

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Speaker 1: For the people that want to start Josh Ellen, he's

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Speaker 1: obviously not ready. He doesn't get the ball out quick enough.

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Speaker 1: And in order for you to write this script for

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Speaker 1: a Disney movie, are you willing to give up the

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Speaker 1: first three or four games of the season in order

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Speaker 1: to try and do it? Because that's the price you're

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Speaker 1: going to pay if you start a quarterback that you're

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Speaker 1: not getting the ball out quick enough when you don't

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Speaker 1: have an old line that's doing one hundred percent of

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Speaker 1: the work. Yeah, I don't know if I agree with

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Speaker 1: that assessment that you got to write off those games.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Josh Allen has has traits and skills that

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Speaker 1: Peterman does not possess, and maybe he can help win

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Speaker 1: those games. Maybe Peterson would lose those three games too.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if I accept that. There's also the

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Speaker 1: notion that maybe the offensive line play around the league

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Speaker 1: really isn't all that great in itself, so you have

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Speaker 1: to be at least a little bit comfortable with dealing

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Speaker 1: with some subpar offensive line play. So for that matter,

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Speaker 1: it's probably never going to be perfect a perfect situation

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Speaker 1: for him. But all that said, I mean, Alan is

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Speaker 1: still someone that you just don't want to You just

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Speaker 1: don't want to ruin it right away, and you don't

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Speaker 1: want to force bad habits where they don't need to

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Speaker 1: be right away. You want to make sure it's it's

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Speaker 1: a situations succeeded. Like I said before, thanks very much

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Speaker 1: for your call. Now let's go to Kathy in Spring Go. Hello, Kathy, welcome,

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Speaker 1: you're on the air of this Hi murf. I just

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Speaker 1: have one comment and then I'll hang up and listen

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Speaker 1: to your reply. When Josh Allen went down in the

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Speaker 1: second quarter and hit his head so hard, you could

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Speaker 1: see when he grabbed his helmet that he was hurting.

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Speaker 1: He got right back up. They let him do another play,

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Speaker 1: and it was on replay. The coaches had to see that.

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Speaker 1: I don't understand why the coaches did not bring him out. Instead,

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Speaker 1: the ref stopped the game and brought him to the sidelines.

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Speaker 1: I blame our coaches. They should have seen it. It

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Speaker 1: was on replay twice. Um. Well, I hear what you're saying, Kathy. Oh,

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Speaker 1: would concussion protocol he should have been immediately brought out.

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Speaker 1: So he played one play and I think the REP.

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Speaker 1: I mean I watched the game over again last night.

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Speaker 1: The uh, the REP. There wasn't enough time to do that.

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Speaker 1: I mean they see the replay upstairs, the coaches upstairs,

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Speaker 1: the coaches on the field don't see it. Um. I

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Speaker 1: think the protocol worked one play late, I guess. But

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Speaker 1: and as it turns out, he did not have a concussion.

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Speaker 1: He did not have any sort of damage after they

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Speaker 1: did the evaluation. So, um, I think the protocol worked.

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Speaker 1: I do. What do you think, Joe? Um? I think,

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Speaker 1: if if anything, that they do have the task force

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Speaker 1: or so to speak, on when to go and you know,

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Speaker 1: insert yourselves into the situation. They have the independent neurological

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Speaker 1: guy in the ATC upstairs who can say which maybe

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Speaker 1: their job. They needed to be a little bit quicker

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Speaker 1: on that because they would have access to the replay immediately, right,

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Speaker 1: So I think it was I get where Kathy is

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Speaker 1: coming from, and I agree with you. Since he grabbed

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Speaker 1: at his head, hit his head, everything like that, he

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Speaker 1: should have been out on the next play. But you

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Speaker 1: know that's that's also not completely on the coaching staff.

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Speaker 1: That's I mean, this is why the NFL has that

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Speaker 1: in place, to where they stop the action and say

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Speaker 1: all right, no, no, no, he's coming off. And they

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Speaker 1: didn't do it quickly enough. And he didn't have a concussion,

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Speaker 1: No he didn't, but you still want to be careful.

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Speaker 1: If his teammates saw something, or if the coaches on

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Speaker 1: the sideline could tell something, that's a different story. But

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Speaker 1: there was you know, yeah, he got banged on the head,

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Speaker 1: but there was no evidence of a problem there. I

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Speaker 1: think the system worked for the most part. They escorted

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Speaker 1: him off the field after the call came from upstairs

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Speaker 1: from the tweet sheet. On our question are you comfortable

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Speaker 1: with the Bill's quarterback situation? From Eric Miller, he says,

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Speaker 1: I'm fine with the quarterback situation. What I'm concerned with

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Speaker 1: is the offensive line. If they suck, it won't matter

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Speaker 1: who he asked to pass the ball. Okay, yeah, I

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Speaker 1: think we're all concerned with the offensive line. I don't

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Speaker 1: know how to fix that, Joe, at this late stage.

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Speaker 1: And as you pointed out, you can name the five right, yeah,

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Speaker 1: right now, from left or right, Dawkins, Ducas, Groy, Miller, Mills.

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Speaker 1: I have no idea how Jordan Mills is still the

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Speaker 1: starting right tackle. Really, I don't think he's played that

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Speaker 1: poorly to you in this place. I mean, I mean

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Speaker 1: he survived. I'm just talking about long scope. Hell yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: he survived three coaching staff. Yeah, that is incredible. I

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Speaker 1: think he's a better player now than he was when

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Speaker 1: he got here. I will agree with that, but I

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Speaker 1: still think they could stand upgrade a few different spots.

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Speaker 1: I agree, I agree with that from Brando from the

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Speaker 1: tweet sheet. I don't feel a j as much of

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Speaker 1: a help. However, I do think Nathan looks pretty good,

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Speaker 1: could still use some work. And I think Josh is

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Speaker 1: going to be great, but it ain't his time. He

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Speaker 1: needs a lot of development. If we do anything, I

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Speaker 1: think we replace AJ, but we probably won't. I'm not

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Speaker 1: so sure about that. I think here's the interesting thing,

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Speaker 1: and this is why I think our Twitter question on

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Speaker 1: the Twitter poll is pretty interesting. This is wide open

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Speaker 1: a quarterback with less than two weeks away, right I mean,

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Speaker 1: don't who's going to start September ninth. We can guess,

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Speaker 1: don't know who's going to start this Thursday night preseason finale.

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Speaker 1: There may be a quarterback out there who they signed

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Speaker 1: to start this Thursday night. McDermott left that possibility open

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Speaker 1: yesterday after the game. It's pretty wide open. It's it's

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Speaker 1: a pretty volatile situation to quarterback right now, it is.

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Speaker 1: And I don't know that I agree that Allan needs

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Speaker 1: a lot of development. He needs some development. He's a

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Speaker 1: lot further along than perhaps a lot of people thought

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Speaker 1: he was based on what we saw for the first

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Speaker 1: two preseason games. But there's still some things that need

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Speaker 1: to be that need to go more smoothly than they

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Speaker 1: did in that third per So here's what concerns me.

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Speaker 1: I don't think that real development occurs if he's the backup,

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean, And when we get into

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Speaker 1: regular season mode and he's getting instead of you know,

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Speaker 1: thirty three percent or fifty percent of the practice snaps,

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Speaker 1: you get into regular season practice, now he's getting twenty

643
00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:57,120
Speaker 1: five percent of the practice snaps, right, I don't I

644
00:30:57,200 --> 00:30:59,040
Speaker 1: think his development will be slowed down if he is

645
00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:01,760
Speaker 1: not the starter, which is not the reason by itself

646
00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:03,880
Speaker 1: to make him the starter, but I think it's I

647
00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:06,440
Speaker 1: think it's a factor he just won would have the opportunity, right,

648
00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:09,320
Speaker 1: And that's absolutely right, which is what goes back to

649
00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:11,840
Speaker 1: why I would make him the second quarterback, because if

650
00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:14,080
Speaker 1: in the event that anything does happen to Nathan Peterman,

651
00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:18,640
Speaker 1: you can give him those reps without totally saying, all right,

652
00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:21,600
Speaker 1: he's our starter, now, this is our guy moving forward,

653
00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:24,560
Speaker 1: you can still kind of limp into it that way.

654
00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:27,840
Speaker 1: So I agree he needs to get those reps and

655
00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:29,640
Speaker 1: that's the only way he's going to iron these things out.

656
00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:33,040
Speaker 1: But he does have to stay within himself, continue to

657
00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:35,480
Speaker 1: go to practice early every single day, hammer away at

658
00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:37,680
Speaker 1: the footwork, make sure that doesn't go awry, and then

659
00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:39,480
Speaker 1: I'm meant to go from there. One more from the

660
00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:42,480
Speaker 1: tweet sheet from Blake Parnham the question are you comfortable

661
00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:45,720
Speaker 1: with the Bill's quarterback situation? Blake Parnham writes in comfortable

662
00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:48,959
Speaker 1: with the quarterback situation, uncomfortable with the offense in general.

663
00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:52,480
Speaker 1: The offensive line play in the first half was borderline unsafe.

664
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Speaker 1: Get the competition committee on fixing the line for player

665
00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:59,160
Speaker 1: safety reasons. I'm not sure about that offense held with

666
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Speaker 1: a sea by the way front of the north Yeah,

667
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:02,920
Speaker 1: I would think so, my man. I'm not sure what

668
00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:05,200
Speaker 1: that means. Competition Commanny I'm fixing the line for I

669
00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:07,480
Speaker 1: don't I don't think that makes any sense. It's nobody's

670
00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:09,720
Speaker 1: frobing with the Buffalo Bill's fronding, and if there's gonna

671
00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:11,440
Speaker 1: be a fix, it has to happen here, all right,

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00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:13,160
Speaker 1: Joe and I are just getting rolling. We got Jason

673
00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:15,200
Speaker 1: Crum standing body to join us here in studio coming

674
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Speaker 1: up in the next segment. We're just getting started here

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Speaker 1: until three. One Bill's Live presented by Kalidah Health from

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Speaker 1: one Bill's Drive and this is Buffalo Bill's Radio. How

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Speaker 1: At the time of the five minute touchdown touchdown, Jason

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Speaker 1: Crum hurdled ye the end golde touchdown Buffalo seventeen yards.

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Speaker 1: Joe Piscatti and for Steve Tasker, joined by Jason Croom

685
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Speaker 1: build second year tight end. Jason, thanks for coming by.

686
00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:08,760
Speaker 1: We appreciate it. Oh yeah, I'm glad to be here.

687
00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:10,680
Speaker 1: Tell us about that touchdown play. How did it happen

688
00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:12,200
Speaker 1: and what were you thinking when you were headed to

689
00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:15,760
Speaker 1: the end zone. Um, it really just came down to

690
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:19,120
Speaker 1: executing the play that was called. We had our two

691
00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:21,680
Speaker 1: guys cleared off for me to even get that. Hastar

692
00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:24,840
Speaker 1: had one person to beat. And I mean once I

693
00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:26,400
Speaker 1: got close upside the end zone and I'm like, I

694
00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:28,600
Speaker 1: gotta get in here. I mean, you only get to

695
00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:31,240
Speaker 1: so many opportunities to do so be honest, how many

696
00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:35,600
Speaker 1: times have you watched that play back? I'll probably watched

697
00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:38,440
Speaker 1: it like ten times. I was thinking maybe I could

698
00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:40,680
Speaker 1: have lowered my shoulder or I mean I still got

699
00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:42,280
Speaker 1: in there. I was just thinking about other ways I

700
00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:44,160
Speaker 1: could have got in. Why are you second guessing it?

701
00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:47,080
Speaker 1: I'm not second guessing. You gotta mix it up. You

702
00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:49,680
Speaker 1: can't always jump. Yeah, you jumped, and you jumped in,

703
00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:52,560
Speaker 1: you know, far enough away from the defenders to make

704
00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:55,240
Speaker 1: sure that you broke the plane. Still um to me,

705
00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:57,680
Speaker 1: it showed kind of a knowledge of you know what

706
00:33:57,720 --> 00:33:59,160
Speaker 1: it takes to get in the end zone. You knew

707
00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:01,560
Speaker 1: where the plane was, the you know, the goal line plane,

708
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:03,680
Speaker 1: and knew how to get there regardless of where your

709
00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:07,320
Speaker 1: feet were. I thought that was pretty impressive. Yeah yeah,

710
00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:10,920
Speaker 1: I mean at the end of the day, uh, I

711
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:13,360
Speaker 1: mean yeah, yeah, that's what we worked for to getting

712
00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:15,360
Speaker 1: that end zone. Yeah, and you work so hard so

713
00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:18,080
Speaker 1: for all his moments right there, and that my moment

714
00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:22,400
Speaker 1: came to get that opportunity. Just take advantage of it.

715
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:24,680
Speaker 1: There was a couple of other plays you made, including

716
00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:28,880
Speaker 1: passes from Nathan Peterman. When you get down got downfield

717
00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:31,080
Speaker 1: and you had good run after the catch abilities. It

718
00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:32,799
Speaker 1: had always been a strength of years, even going back

719
00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:36,239
Speaker 1: to college. Yeah, my mom said, I never want to

720
00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:38,360
Speaker 1: go down by one person, so I'm always trying to

721
00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:39,920
Speaker 1: get up to fail. I mean, you work on it

722
00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:42,040
Speaker 1: so as you catch the ball, turning tight up the

723
00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:46,400
Speaker 1: field and being explosive, and I mean I'm out there

724
00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:48,920
Speaker 1: trying to make place for the quarterbacks. Well, well, you

725
00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:50,720
Speaker 1: even said it yourself. You only get so many chances,

726
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:53,799
Speaker 1: especially in the preseason because snaps are so limited. I

727
00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:56,960
Speaker 1: mean it, you went through the paces last year. It

728
00:34:57,200 --> 00:34:59,759
Speaker 1: unfortunately didn't go your way last time around, but this

729
00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:02,640
Speaker 1: time and it seems like you're you're really hanging on

730
00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:06,200
Speaker 1: and seeing what and really making some strides from the

731
00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:08,960
Speaker 1: tight end perspective. I mean, what, what has been the

732
00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:13,879
Speaker 1: biggest change for you between last year to this year

733
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:18,080
Speaker 1: to where you're really kind of settling in. I think

734
00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:22,319
Speaker 1: it's just been the repetitions. Uh, it came along with

735
00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:25,439
Speaker 1: the progression. I mean I was constantly learning. I feel

736
00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:27,560
Speaker 1: like every every week I was trying to make progression

737
00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:31,400
Speaker 1: last year and I'm I'm met still in a progress

738
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:35,600
Speaker 1: and you know, making my game better and I'm around

739
00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:39,799
Speaker 1: good teammates to help me. I'm always asking questions from lyneing, quarterbacks,

740
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Speaker 1: tight ends. I've even asked the receivers like when they're

741
00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:46,200
Speaker 1: running routes, like what are thinking? Like? I'm trying to

742
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:49,319
Speaker 1: pick everybody's brain. So I'm surrounded by some good people

743
00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:52,720
Speaker 1: to help me make progress in my game. Go ahead,

744
00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:54,719
Speaker 1: join was gonna say, was it was it difficult for

745
00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:59,160
Speaker 1: you to get comfortable with switching from wide receiver to

746
00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:01,920
Speaker 1: tight end or the position that you would have to

747
00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:04,840
Speaker 1: learn the intricacies of blocking along with it? Was was

748
00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:06,600
Speaker 1: that difficult for you at the start when you first

749
00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:09,720
Speaker 1: got here last year? My whole thing was just making

750
00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:14,759
Speaker 1: it instinctive. And there's still something. H's still a lot

751
00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:17,759
Speaker 1: in my game I want to work on. But my

752
00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:19,920
Speaker 1: thing is I want to be every down tight end.

753
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:23,719
Speaker 1: I want to be just, you know, excided to one

754
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:26,960
Speaker 1: thing right. Jason crum Bill's tighten end our guests in

755
00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:30,960
Speaker 1: studio to that point, Jason, I have the distinct memory

756
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:33,600
Speaker 1: of training camp a couple of weeks ago. We're almost

757
00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:36,520
Speaker 1: every practice. At the end of practice, you would get

758
00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:39,320
Speaker 1: together with the tight ends coaching and work on stuff.

759
00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:41,839
Speaker 1: Sometimes it was blocking, sometimes we're out running. I mean

760
00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:44,080
Speaker 1: when you talk about working to get there, you actually

761
00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:47,200
Speaker 1: put in the time almost every day out at Fisher, right. Yes,

762
00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:51,160
Speaker 1: that's something I started last year and we continued it.

763
00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:52,920
Speaker 1: Like I said, I want to I want to be

764
00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:55,840
Speaker 1: able to do everything when I'm out there, and I

765
00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:59,840
Speaker 1: know blocking is something that I know I want to

766
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:02,200
Speaker 1: team to work on. I want that to be probably

767
00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:04,680
Speaker 1: one of my best things. So every day I'm out

768
00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:07,920
Speaker 1: there trying to just work on that footwork. And I

769
00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:09,840
Speaker 1: mean coach, he put us off some time for me

770
00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:12,759
Speaker 1: every time out to practice. Is it it can't be? Well,

771
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:14,600
Speaker 1: maybe it is? Is it fun to block? You find

772
00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:16,480
Speaker 1: that you enjoy being part of the run offense and

773
00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:20,239
Speaker 1: blocking football has dominated man across from you? I mean,

774
00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:23,080
Speaker 1: that's what you want to do for you for you?

775
00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:25,600
Speaker 1: Was it a little weird coming here last year and

776
00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:28,200
Speaker 1: seeing Nate come here the same year with all the

777
00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:30,440
Speaker 1: history you guys have. As soon as I found out

778
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:31,960
Speaker 1: he was well, as soon as I found out I

779
00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:34,759
Speaker 1: was coming here, I call him immediately. I'm like, I

780
00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:37,920
Speaker 1: just can't get away from you. What do you What

781
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:39,520
Speaker 1: did you think of him? Back then? You're with him

782
00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:42,680
Speaker 1: at Tennessee before he left to go to pit right, Yeah,

783
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:44,440
Speaker 1: what did you think of him as a quarterback back? Then?

784
00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:46,319
Speaker 1: This is four or five years ago now, right, Yeah,

785
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:48,560
Speaker 1: even it's even before that though. We actually played in

786
00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:50,879
Speaker 1: the same All Star game in high school. Wow, So

787
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:52,480
Speaker 1: we kind of got to know each other before we

788
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:55,919
Speaker 1: even stepped into Tennessee. And it's just cool, like every

789
00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:58,040
Speaker 1: step of the way we've been together. Wow. And what

790
00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:00,239
Speaker 1: do you think of his preseason so far? I mean,

791
00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:04,439
Speaker 1: he's eighty percent completion percentage, he's one twenty four quarterback rating.

792
00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:06,920
Speaker 1: He's done everything that you might expect from a guy

793
00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:08,719
Speaker 1: like that. What do you think about he's played? Yeah,

794
00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:10,279
Speaker 1: I think he's played well. I mean, you want to

795
00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:12,279
Speaker 1: see everybody on his tame play well. I mean I

796
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:14,080
Speaker 1: want I don't want to step out there somebody wearing

797
00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:17,359
Speaker 1: the same uniform as you not do well. Knowing Nate

798
00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:19,800
Speaker 1: as long as you've known him, what is it about

799
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:22,520
Speaker 1: him that stands out, just not even from an on

800
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:26,080
Speaker 1: field perspective, but from a teammate perspective and what he

801
00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:28,759
Speaker 1: does in and around practice, everything along those lines. What

802
00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:31,799
Speaker 1: is it about him that makes him unique? Pier Man

803
00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:34,319
Speaker 1: is a great dude, like you a lot to talk

804
00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:38,960
Speaker 1: to him, he's very like, he's very religious if you

805
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:41,439
Speaker 1: get to talk to him. But he's he's a good man,

806
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:45,560
Speaker 1: he's a he's a smart guy too, And a couple

807
00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:47,040
Speaker 1: times as we've had him on the show or even

808
00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:49,400
Speaker 1: talk to him off the show, I'm always impressed by

809
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:52,280
Speaker 1: he's almost ahead of you in the conversation sometimes because

810
00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:54,640
Speaker 1: he's he's smart. He anticipates stuff, you know what I

811
00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:56,960
Speaker 1: mean anything, Yeah, that's how he is. He almost knows

812
00:38:56,960 --> 00:38:59,359
Speaker 1: what questions you're gonna ask on it regular basis. Yeah, yeah,

813
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:02,080
Speaker 1: I just that's it's a quarterback end. I'm just always

814
00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:06,080
Speaker 1: thinking ahead, do you. I mean, they haven't selected a

815
00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:08,800
Speaker 1: quarterback for the opener yet. Do guys talk about that

816
00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:11,360
Speaker 1: much in the locker room? I mean guys on offensive particular,

817
00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:13,360
Speaker 1: saying it should be this guy or that guy or

818
00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:14,960
Speaker 1: this guy's playing. Well, how much do you follow the

819
00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:16,800
Speaker 1: quarterback battle here? How much you have you followed it?

820
00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:19,360
Speaker 1: There's not really something we focus on. Our job is

821
00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:22,440
Speaker 1: to execute for whoever it's back there, and so we

822
00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:24,000
Speaker 1: laid that up to the coaches. They're gonna do the

823
00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:26,319
Speaker 1: right thing for us. Hey, Jason, what did you get

824
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:28,400
Speaker 1: out of your year on the practice squad last year

825
00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:30,759
Speaker 1: and how hard is it to get better when your

826
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:33,480
Speaker 1: practice squad. It's not hard to get better because you're

827
00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:36,719
Speaker 1: getting a lot more reps and I take advantage of it.

828
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:39,120
Speaker 1: It was something I was looking forward to every day

829
00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:42,480
Speaker 1: like this one I'm gonna get better at and every

830
00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:45,000
Speaker 1: day you're just working hard until your opportunity to come.

831
00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:47,719
Speaker 1: And where did you learn that approach? Where did you

832
00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:52,480
Speaker 1: start having that approach? I flight, it was just instilled

833
00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:54,239
Speaker 1: in me, just just because of my you know, my

834
00:39:54,320 --> 00:40:00,479
Speaker 1: family were just hard working and I just that's mass

835
00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:02,839
Speaker 1: at a time your family? Did I see I think

836
00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:05,320
Speaker 1: I saw in Cleveland right before we're going there. You

837
00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:07,200
Speaker 1: had a big contingent there in Cleveland, right, didn't you

838
00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:10,920
Speaker 1: have family members? Yeah? My mom, she drove off from Georgia.

839
00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:13,600
Speaker 1: Oh wow wow. Yeah. I saw like I had to

840
00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:15,319
Speaker 1: be four or six people down in the first row

841
00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:19,080
Speaker 1: before the game, all with number eighty. Jason Croom. Jerseys said,

842
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:21,680
Speaker 1: I'll look at that, okay from Detroit. That's cool. Yeah,

843
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:24,839
Speaker 1: that's great. Hey, Jason, thanks for this continued success. We'll

844
00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:27,560
Speaker 1: talk again, I hope sometime. Yes, thanks very much. Jason

845
00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:30,000
Speaker 1: crum Bills tight end who's had a big game yesterday,

846
00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:32,640
Speaker 1: a really good preseason joined us here in studio. Joe

847
00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:34,719
Speaker 1: and I back with more One Bills Live from One

848
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Speaker 1: Bill's Drive. And this is Buffalo Bills Radio. Welcome back

849
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:54,759
Speaker 1: to the show, John Murphy and Job Pascallion. Joe from

850
00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:57,920
Speaker 1: WKBW TV Channel seven here in Buffalo, sports director there

851
00:40:57,960 --> 00:40:59,799
Speaker 1: covers the Bills. How long have you been covering the Bills? Joke? Eight?

852
00:40:59,840 --> 00:41:02,920
Speaker 1: Ten years old and nine going on ten, nine and

853
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Speaker 1: a half. Yeah, you know when the Steve Hall of

854
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Speaker 1: Fame favorite Countess went up. I don't know why. You know.

855
00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:12,560
Speaker 1: When you first got on my radar was at the Combine.

856
00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:15,200
Speaker 1: You were covering the draft. That still is your strong suit,

857
00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:18,080
Speaker 1: right draft? It was that one. I had my stupid

858
00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:20,640
Speaker 1: long hair like back in two thousand and nine. Yes, yeah,

859
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:23,040
Speaker 1: I was like twenty one years old. I was such

860
00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:25,360
Speaker 1: an idiot back then. Why because you had long hair? No,

861
00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:29,680
Speaker 1: just just in general, are twenty one. We're great to

862
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:32,560
Speaker 1: have you here today. A couple of things from yesterday's game.

863
00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:34,480
Speaker 1: Leftovers from yesterday game. We got a lot to talk

864
00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:38,920
Speaker 1: about too. Um Andy Dalton, what a day for him?

865
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Speaker 1: I mean to have the day he had on the field,

866
00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:44,120
Speaker 1: for one thing, his numbers ridiculous, eleven to sixteen, one

867
00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:46,400
Speaker 1: hundred eighty yards, two touchdowns. He threw the ball as

868
00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:48,439
Speaker 1: well as I've ever seen him throw it. He looks

869
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:51,400
Speaker 1: comfortable in Bill Laser's offense. But before that, they get

870
00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:53,439
Speaker 1: the kind of reception he got from the Buffalo fans

871
00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:57,440
Speaker 1: based on his you know, standing ovation, introduced waving to

872
00:41:57,520 --> 00:42:00,319
Speaker 1: the fans in the end zone, a nice video tribute

873
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:02,960
Speaker 1: on the scoreboard, and then fans just kind of went wow.

874
00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:06,040
Speaker 1: I thought, look, I know it's it's you know, we

875
00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:07,880
Speaker 1: knew it was coming, so it wasn't a surprise. But

876
00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:11,279
Speaker 1: still almost four hundred and fifty thousand dollars to his

877
00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:14,800
Speaker 1: charity and seventeen dollars increments from Buffalo Bills fans. That

878
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:17,120
Speaker 1: is amazing, Joe, No matter how I try not to

879
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:19,560
Speaker 1: be jaded about this stuff, but that is amazing. Yeah.

880
00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:22,200
Speaker 1: It was a cool moment and and a reflection on

881
00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:27,719
Speaker 1: what happened last year and in the the unbelievableness to

882
00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:32,000
Speaker 1: it actually going the Bills way and how fans responded.

883
00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:35,360
Speaker 1: I mean that that was seventeen years of frustration poured

884
00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:38,200
Speaker 1: into one charity. Yeah, and it was it was it

885
00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:41,040
Speaker 1: was pretty cool to see. Yeah, definitely great pregame moment.

886
00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:43,359
Speaker 1: Dalton went out and you know, it would be one

887
00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:45,200
Speaker 1: thing if you just went out and played a little bit,

888
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:48,440
Speaker 1: but he played a lot and he played extremely well. Um,

889
00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:50,480
Speaker 1: they could be good. I'm actually you know how, I

890
00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:54,480
Speaker 1: really liked their defensive line, the guys up front on defense,

891
00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:57,080
Speaker 1: even some of the backups on their defensive line. They've

892
00:42:57,120 --> 00:42:59,799
Speaker 1: got quality in the back end of their defense. They

893
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:03,560
Speaker 1: have playmakers on offense, skill position playmakers. Joe Mixon I

894
00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:06,719
Speaker 1: think is poised to have a big year. He needs

895
00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:09,200
Speaker 1: to stop bouncing runs outside from his taste. But yeah,

896
00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:10,920
Speaker 1: but he's still good. He's still a good player. And

897
00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:13,000
Speaker 1: the only question would be I mean, you see Dalton

898
00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:15,160
Speaker 1: play like that. The only question would be the offensive line,

899
00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:16,960
Speaker 1: and it's a pretty significant question for them. They have

900
00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:20,279
Speaker 1: new pieces up there. Well, they upgraded from Bodine to

901
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:24,839
Speaker 1: to Philly Thrice. Yeah, so that's that's solid there. I mean,

902
00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:28,160
Speaker 1: the AFC is so weird this year. Who's good, right, honestly?

903
00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:33,759
Speaker 1: I mean the Patriots, the Steelers, maybe the Chargers, yep,

904
00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:36,640
Speaker 1: I mean, are the are the Jags gonna be good again?

905
00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:38,279
Speaker 1: We don't know. Are the Colts gonna be good? Are

906
00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:41,160
Speaker 1: the Titans gonna be good? Texans maybe Ravens, I mean

907
00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:45,359
Speaker 1: Texans maybe are What are the Chiefs gonna be? They

908
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:47,480
Speaker 1: have a good roster, But what's Patrick Mahomes gonna be?

909
00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:49,920
Speaker 1: There's there? I mean the Bengals can absolutely sneak into

910
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:52,719
Speaker 1: a wild start spot. Um. They had the five year

911
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:55,040
Speaker 1: playoff run and then the last two years without the playoffs,

912
00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:57,240
Speaker 1: and I think they're talented, and I think Dalton, especially

913
00:43:57,760 --> 00:43:59,839
Speaker 1: the way he played yesterday, he could be really good.

914
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:02,000
Speaker 1: All Right, we got one hour in the books, two

915
00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:04,360
Speaker 1: hours to go. Joe's here until three. Coming up in

916
00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:07,440
Speaker 1: the next hour. Great Cosell, who is executive producer and

917
00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:11,000
Speaker 1: analyst of NFL Matchup on ESPN. He's got some things

918
00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:13,839
Speaker 1: to say about Josh Allen's game and Nathan Peterman's game

919
00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:16,080
Speaker 1: and where the Bills go from here. Great Cosell gonna

920
00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:17,960
Speaker 1: joined us. Coming up in the next hour. Coming up

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00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:20,400
Speaker 1: in the two o'clock hour, Chris Brown, Bills Insider from

922
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:22,560
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills dot Com, will be here in studio. Come

923
00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:24,319
Speaker 1: on back. We got a lot more to go. One

924
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Speaker 1: Bill's Live presented by cab to Health from One Bill's

925
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:41,640
Speaker 1: Drive and this is Buffalo Bills Radiolo Bills Radio Network

926
00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:45,440
Speaker 1: story some date. The update from One Bill's Drive back

927
00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:47,759
Speaker 1: to work for the Bills today. After yesterday's twenty six

928
00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:51,520
Speaker 1: thirteen preseason lost to the Cincinnati Bengals, third preseason game

929
00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:55,000
Speaker 1: generated more questions and answers. Head coach Sean McDermott may

930
00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:56,439
Speaker 1: try to clear up some of them when he meets

931
00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:58,719
Speaker 1: with the media at four fifteen this afternoon. He's got

932
00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:01,000
Speaker 1: a quarterback decision to me. Who should start the season

933
00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:04,360
Speaker 1: opener September ninth in Baltimore. Second year man Nathan Peterman

934
00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:06,480
Speaker 1: has made a strong case for himself and did it

935
00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:09,319
Speaker 1: again yesterday against the Bengals. Not known whether veteran AJ

936
00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:11,800
Speaker 1: mccarront will be available to play this Thursday in the

937
00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:14,640
Speaker 1: preseason finale, and McDermott does not, we're allowed adding the

938
00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:17,080
Speaker 1: quarterback to the roster this week they finish out the

939
00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:19,440
Speaker 1: preseason the Bills. They have offensive line issues to clear

940
00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:22,279
Speaker 1: up several other rosters spots it aside, with the final

941
00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:25,920
Speaker 1: preseason game three days away in Chicago, cutdowns coming up

942
00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:30,080
Speaker 1: on Saturday afternoon. Josh Allen a rough afternoon for him,

943
00:45:30,080 --> 00:45:33,000
Speaker 1: sacked five times against the Bengals yesterday. Allen said I

944
00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:34,920
Speaker 1: didn't do a good enough job getting the ball out

945
00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:37,760
Speaker 1: on time and getting it to the playmakers. The Bengals

946
00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:40,320
Speaker 1: lost left tackle Corty Glenn with the right shoulder injury

947
00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:43,480
Speaker 1: in the second quarter yesterday. Bengals coach Marl Lewis said

948
00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:45,480
Speaker 1: after the game the Glen was fine. He walked off

949
00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:46,920
Speaker 1: the field at the end of the game and gave

950
00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:50,200
Speaker 1: a thumbs up to Bills fans. Aaron Donald is gonna

951
00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:53,399
Speaker 1: miss the preseason, but Sean McVay, the Rams coach, says

952
00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:55,279
Speaker 1: he expects it will be in by the end of

953
00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:58,760
Speaker 1: the week. He talked about it yesterday, said that getting

954
00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:01,640
Speaker 1: late in the process and they expected he'll start. Donald

955
00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:03,880
Speaker 1: held out laughs offseason, did not record until the day

956
00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:07,040
Speaker 1: before the Ram's first regular season game. Veteran wide receiver

957
00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:09,840
Speaker 1: Eric Decker signed a one year contract with the Patriots

958
00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:12,520
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago, announced his retirement. Yesterday afternoon,

959
00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:16,000
Speaker 1: Patriots signed him after they released Jordan Matthews. Decker appeared

960
00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:18,600
Speaker 1: to be on the roster bubble despite the Patriots then

961
00:46:18,719 --> 00:46:22,160
Speaker 1: the ranks at wide receiver. Patriots quarterback Tom Brady abruptly

962
00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:25,279
Speaker 1: ended his weekly interview on a radio station in Boston today,

963
00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:27,520
Speaker 1: saying twice that he did not want to get into

964
00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:30,719
Speaker 1: the topic of his personal trainer, Amics Guerrero once again

965
00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:33,799
Speaker 1: traveling with the team to road games. Arizona Cardinals came

966
00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:37,520
Speaker 1: up with eight turnovers yesterday, sixteen takeaways in the preseason,

967
00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:41,520
Speaker 1: and the Cardinals hammered the Dallas Cowboys twenty seven to

968
00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:44,480
Speaker 1: three last night in preseason football. That is the update

969
00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:47,239
Speaker 1: from One Bill's Drive. John Murphy, Joe bas Gallia in

970
00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:49,719
Speaker 1: for Steve Tasker. Steve is down in New York at

971
00:46:49,719 --> 00:46:51,879
Speaker 1: the CBS meetings where they get their marching orders from

972
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:56,000
Speaker 1: Bob Kraft and get ready to go. Just getting ruins, Steve.

973
00:46:56,160 --> 00:46:57,879
Speaker 1: I'll make sure I repeat that to Steve. He will

974
00:46:57,960 --> 00:47:00,560
Speaker 1: love to joining us right now on the line. Is

975
00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:03,040
Speaker 1: a frequent guest of the show, a regular contributor. Happy

976
00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:06,040
Speaker 1: to him again. Greg Cosell, who is executive producer in

977
00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:09,680
Speaker 1: analysts of NFL Matchup on ESPN long time of thirty

978
00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:12,560
Speaker 1: eight years, Senior producer at NFL Films, Greg, John Murphy

979
00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:15,640
Speaker 1: and Joe Scout here in Buffalo, thank you for joining us, Murf.

980
00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:17,680
Speaker 1: Joe Good to be with you, guys, we have more

981
00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:21,359
Speaker 1: questions than answers after the Bill's preseason game number three, Greg,

982
00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:24,080
Speaker 1: and most of the questions center on the quarterbacks. What

983
00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:27,480
Speaker 1: did you think of Josh Allen's performance yesterday? Yeah, Josh

984
00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:29,920
Speaker 1: struggled a bit yesterday, and he struggled with some of

985
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:34,279
Speaker 1: the basic mechanics of the position. I thought that overall,

986
00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:36,960
Speaker 1: he didn't really have a good feel for how his

987
00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:40,600
Speaker 1: drops and sets sunk up with the route depths. There

988
00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:43,839
Speaker 1: were times his drops were far too short, they did

989
00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:45,800
Speaker 1: not sync up with the routes. It forced him to

990
00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:48,279
Speaker 1: sort of sit in the pocket too close to the

991
00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:51,960
Speaker 1: pass rush. There were other times as well, Murf where

992
00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:54,120
Speaker 1: they were throws to be made and he did not

993
00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:58,120
Speaker 1: turn it loose. So I mean, even on for instance,

994
00:47:58,200 --> 00:48:01,040
Speaker 1: that that ball he threw deep to Clay was well underthrown.

995
00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:04,560
Speaker 1: That part of the play should never have happened. He

996
00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:06,839
Speaker 1: had an easy throw to Benjamin on the out route

997
00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:09,360
Speaker 1: on the other side from the boundary slot, but his

998
00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:11,640
Speaker 1: drop was too quick and he didn't quite see it

999
00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:14,719
Speaker 1: clearly enough. But it was just a routine NFL throw,

1000
00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:17,560
Speaker 1: So Josh had some issues with that. It caused him

1001
00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:20,040
Speaker 1: to just sit in the pocket too close to his

1002
00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:24,000
Speaker 1: line and he got eaten up. Now, again, the offensive line,

1003
00:48:24,040 --> 00:48:27,480
Speaker 1: particularly the interior three, clearly had a hard time and

1004
00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:31,440
Speaker 1: pass protection and the pocket got closed down way too

1005
00:48:31,560 --> 00:48:34,040
Speaker 1: quick on a number of plays. But you combine the

1006
00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:38,239
Speaker 1: problems with the interior o line Josh's struggles and it

1007
00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:42,000
Speaker 1: was just not a good performance. Now, did you happen

1008
00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:46,600
Speaker 1: to watch his performance against Cleveland back or really at all?

1009
00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:51,719
Speaker 1: And if you did, can you compare what his deficiencies

1010
00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:55,360
Speaker 1: were with the Cincinnati game to that and if that

1011
00:48:55,560 --> 00:48:59,080
Speaker 1: was something that just kind of he did in this

1012
00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:01,440
Speaker 1: game and maybe it was just a new problem that

1013
00:49:01,520 --> 00:49:04,399
Speaker 1: kind of popped up. It was this game, really, Joe,

1014
00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:07,800
Speaker 1: because the game prior he was very quick with his

1015
00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:10,799
Speaker 1: sets and his delivery. He got the ball out. I mean,

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00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:15,479
Speaker 1: a perfect example was his second sack of the game,

1017
00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:19,480
Speaker 1: which was just an outside hitch to Marcus Murphy from

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00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:22,560
Speaker 1: an empty set and he just took too quick a

1019
00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:25,600
Speaker 1: drop and a set and that didn't sink even with

1020
00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:28,560
Speaker 1: an outside hitch, which is quick timing, but he was

1021
00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:31,040
Speaker 1: just too quick, and you know when he was ready

1022
00:49:31,120 --> 00:49:34,160
Speaker 1: to throw because he was too short. The hitch hadn't

1023
00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:36,720
Speaker 1: quite ended. Yet we saw it happen later when Peterman

1024
00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:38,920
Speaker 1: was in they did the exact same thing and he

1025
00:49:39,040 --> 00:49:41,200
Speaker 1: threw the hitch to Murphy for five or six yards.

1026
00:49:41,600 --> 00:49:45,480
Speaker 1: So this was just one of those games where whatever reason,

1027
00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:48,959
Speaker 1: only he could. You'd have to talk with Josh Allen

1028
00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:51,800
Speaker 1: about it, and that's a coaching thing. But everything was

1029
00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:55,239
Speaker 1: just too quick and he just wasn't in sync with

1030
00:49:55,360 --> 00:49:58,960
Speaker 1: the depths of the routes. Gregor these common issues for

1031
00:49:59,120 --> 00:50:02,920
Speaker 1: young quarterbacks. Is this something that you don't see too often? No,

1032
00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:06,400
Speaker 1: I think they're relatively common. Like I would just like

1033
00:50:06,600 --> 00:50:09,200
Speaker 1: last week, he looked very good, and I wouldn't get

1034
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Speaker 1: his bust ready for the Hall of Fame based on

1035
00:50:11,160 --> 00:50:13,520
Speaker 1: last week. I wouldn't get ready to cut him after

1036
00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:16,440
Speaker 1: what happened yesterday. I think these are growing pains that

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Speaker 1: you go through. You know, Josh Allen, I would even

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00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:23,239
Speaker 1: at his best in college, you wouldn't necessarily call him

1039
00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:25,880
Speaker 1: a true precision player. I think he needs to be

1040
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Speaker 1: coached up in that regard, and that'll be a process.

1041
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Speaker 1: The question is how long a process. No one can

1042
00:50:32,040 --> 00:50:34,600
Speaker 1: answer that. And if you want this process to happen

1043
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Speaker 1: while he's your starting quarterback, in which case you're going

1044
00:50:37,320 --> 00:50:41,000
Speaker 1: to have to live with some tough times. Great, how

1045
00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:43,799
Speaker 1: do you do it if he isn't if he isn't

1046
00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:46,439
Speaker 1: the starting quarterback? And how do you get these things

1047
00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:50,840
Speaker 1: through without the actual act of going through reps and

1048
00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:53,799
Speaker 1: the experience factor and doing all the things that you're

1049
00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:57,359
Speaker 1: talking about when the live bullets are flying, where that's

1050
00:50:57,480 --> 00:50:59,360
Speaker 1: the time that you almost have to hone in and

1051
00:51:00,760 --> 00:51:03,960
Speaker 1: and be the time where you progress as a player. Well, Joe,

1052
00:51:04,080 --> 00:51:07,800
Speaker 1: that's the age old question about young quarterback starting. You know,

1053
00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:10,480
Speaker 1: it depends what you want your team to look like.

1054
00:51:10,719 --> 00:51:13,439
Speaker 1: It depends what you think your team is. This team

1055
00:51:13,520 --> 00:51:16,200
Speaker 1: didn't make the playoffs last year, and it's not a

1056
00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:18,560
Speaker 1: bad roster. I mean, we can look at the old

1057
00:51:18,600 --> 00:51:22,000
Speaker 1: line and say there's issues. Yesterday's performance was certainly not

1058
00:51:22,080 --> 00:51:25,879
Speaker 1: a good one. But this is a playoff team. They'll

1059
00:51:25,960 --> 00:51:29,040
Speaker 1: likely have a solid defense. They're likely to be able

1060
00:51:29,120 --> 00:51:31,680
Speaker 1: to run the ball with efficiency. They still have with

1061
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Speaker 1: Sean McCoy. They have Chris Ivory who's a very very

1062
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Speaker 1: good second back. They have Marcus Murphy, who I'm certain

1063
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Speaker 1: will make the team as a very nice sort of

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00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:44,080
Speaker 1: sub package back. Eleven personnel back who I think has

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00:51:44,120 --> 00:51:47,560
Speaker 1: some explosive traits to him, so they do have weapons.

1066
00:51:47,800 --> 00:51:49,839
Speaker 1: I think the wide receiver corps is a little bit

1067
00:51:49,920 --> 00:51:54,759
Speaker 1: a question mark. So so really the issue organizationally is

1068
00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:57,239
Speaker 1: what do we see our team being. Do we put

1069
00:51:57,360 --> 00:52:00,239
Speaker 1: Josh out there, particularly when five of the first seven

1070
00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:02,560
Speaker 1: games are on the road, and live with the fact

1071
00:52:02,640 --> 00:52:04,839
Speaker 1: that we could be three and four two in five

1072
00:52:05,080 --> 00:52:08,719
Speaker 1: because mistakes could be made. The last thing you want

1073
00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:11,480
Speaker 1: to do when your team is built theoretically on running

1074
00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:14,520
Speaker 1: the ball and playing good defense is get behind in

1075
00:52:14,680 --> 00:52:17,640
Speaker 1: games because of mistakes. You don't want to be losing

1076
00:52:17,719 --> 00:52:20,560
Speaker 1: seventeen three in the middle of the second quarter. It's

1077
00:52:20,600 --> 00:52:23,480
Speaker 1: one thing to be losing nine to six, but you

1078
00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:27,120
Speaker 1: don't want to get behind like that because theoretically, playing

1079
00:52:27,280 --> 00:52:30,600
Speaker 1: that way Joe stylistically leads you to believe that you're

1080
00:52:30,640 --> 00:52:33,279
Speaker 1: going to be in every game. So you don't want

1081
00:52:33,320 --> 00:52:35,920
Speaker 1: to get caught with a rookie quarterback who is going

1082
00:52:36,040 --> 00:52:38,439
Speaker 1: to get a lot of three and outs, maybe throw

1083
00:52:38,560 --> 00:52:42,200
Speaker 1: picks and yes, does he need to do that to learn? Maybe,

1084
00:52:42,719 --> 00:52:45,160
Speaker 1: but you also want to win some games around the

1085
00:52:45,200 --> 00:52:48,360
Speaker 1: line with great Cosel analysts. Executive producer of NFL matchup

1086
00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:51,120
Speaker 1: at ESPN. He is a senior producer in NFL films.

1087
00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:53,319
Speaker 1: Now the other quarterback, tell us what you saw from

1088
00:52:53,400 --> 00:52:56,640
Speaker 1: Nathan Peterman yesterday and maybe throughout these first few games

1089
00:52:56,680 --> 00:52:59,520
Speaker 1: of preseason. What do you see there, Greg, Well, I

1090
00:52:59,640 --> 00:53:02,600
Speaker 1: think immediately see and Murph you did the game, so

1091
00:53:02,760 --> 00:53:05,759
Speaker 1: you saw it too. Everybody saw it. Just there's a

1092
00:53:05,880 --> 00:53:08,600
Speaker 1: different sense of timing and rhythm to Peterman. You know,

1093
00:53:08,680 --> 00:53:11,080
Speaker 1: he would hit his back foot, the ball would come out. Now,

1094
00:53:11,560 --> 00:53:15,520
Speaker 1: to be fair, he clearly was protected better. Now obviously

1095
00:53:15,560 --> 00:53:18,800
Speaker 1: he's playing with second unit a lineman. He's also playing

1096
00:53:18,800 --> 00:53:22,040
Speaker 1: against some second unit you know, a second unit defense

1097
00:53:22,080 --> 00:53:24,920
Speaker 1: for the Bengals. But he was protected better. But you

1098
00:53:25,080 --> 00:53:27,880
Speaker 1: just saw a sense of rhythm to how he played.

1099
00:53:28,600 --> 00:53:32,320
Speaker 1: And that's you know, simple throws like why stick to

1100
00:53:32,400 --> 00:53:35,080
Speaker 1: the tight end, you know, throws that you just have

1101
00:53:35,239 --> 00:53:39,759
Speaker 1: to complete in the NFL. Peterman completes those throws. They

1102
00:53:39,880 --> 00:53:42,200
Speaker 1: ran the same route concepts with Peterman as they did

1103
00:53:42,239 --> 00:53:44,759
Speaker 1: with Alan and Peterman has a much better feel for

1104
00:53:44,840 --> 00:53:47,279
Speaker 1: the timing of his drops syncing up with the depth

1105
00:53:47,320 --> 00:53:49,560
Speaker 1: of the routes. Yeah. A great example that was the

1106
00:53:49,640 --> 00:53:53,480
Speaker 1: curly eighteen yachder that was a very similar concept to

1107
00:53:53,600 --> 00:53:56,759
Speaker 1: the play I mentioned earlier that Josh missed when he

1108
00:53:56,760 --> 00:53:59,640
Speaker 1: should have thrown it to Kelvin Benjamin. So just you know,

1109
00:54:00,239 --> 00:54:02,719
Speaker 1: little things like that like getting to Riley on that

1110
00:54:02,760 --> 00:54:04,920
Speaker 1: twenty three yard or on the deep day. You know

1111
00:54:05,040 --> 00:54:07,759
Speaker 1: that was higher level quarterbacking. You know, Peterman has just

1112
00:54:07,840 --> 00:54:11,320
Speaker 1: a better feel for that right now. Well, Greg, the

1113
00:54:11,760 --> 00:54:14,920
Speaker 1: one thing that is I think a bugaboo of his

1114
00:54:15,120 --> 00:54:17,759
Speaker 1: is when he has to try and force the ball

1115
00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:20,480
Speaker 1: or try and push the ball to the boundary, I

1116
00:54:20,520 --> 00:54:23,040
Speaker 1: don't know, an out or a comeback or something like that.

1117
00:54:23,200 --> 00:54:25,440
Speaker 1: It just seems like the velocity isn't there. Is that

1118
00:54:25,560 --> 00:54:27,960
Speaker 1: something it's not that that you can live with as

1119
00:54:28,120 --> 00:54:30,719
Speaker 1: him as your starting quarterback, or is that something that

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00:54:30,800 --> 00:54:33,759
Speaker 1: you would have to do. That's why Joe he was

1121
00:54:33,800 --> 00:54:37,960
Speaker 1: what a sixth round pickup exactly? He just doesn't happen because, yeah,

1122
00:54:38,080 --> 00:54:40,560
Speaker 1: that's why, because if you watched him in college, as

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00:54:40,600 --> 00:54:43,920
Speaker 1: I did, you saw a quarterback that had a good

1124
00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:47,080
Speaker 1: feel for the past game, good sense of routes, good

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00:54:47,160 --> 00:54:50,160
Speaker 1: sense of the timing of the pass game. But you

1126
00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:53,560
Speaker 1: just had a wonder if his arm strength was below

1127
00:54:53,719 --> 00:54:56,200
Speaker 1: the standard by which you can be a quality starter.

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00:54:57,160 --> 00:54:59,560
Speaker 1: I I sort of teetered on that. I talked to

1129
00:54:59,640 --> 00:55:02,520
Speaker 1: some NFL coaches that I know well who thought that

1130
00:55:02,600 --> 00:55:04,680
Speaker 1: his arm strength was not good enough to be a starter.

1131
00:55:05,080 --> 00:55:09,200
Speaker 1: So that's why he was a sixth round pick, because

1132
00:55:09,239 --> 00:55:11,480
Speaker 1: there were just too many questions about whether you could

1133
00:55:11,600 --> 00:55:15,040
Speaker 1: line him up as a starting quarterback. Given that not

1134
00:55:15,320 --> 00:55:18,640
Speaker 1: everything is comfortable in an NFL game, that there's going

1135
00:55:18,719 --> 00:55:20,840
Speaker 1: to be bodies around him, that he's not going to

1136
00:55:20,880 --> 00:55:23,560
Speaker 1: be able to step into some throws. Can he then

1137
00:55:23,760 --> 00:55:26,520
Speaker 1: make the necessary throws? I think that's an open question

1138
00:55:26,640 --> 00:55:29,480
Speaker 1: right now. So Greg sum it up. As far as

1139
00:55:29,520 --> 00:55:31,640
Speaker 1: the Bill's decision, we're less than two weeks away from,

1140
00:55:31,920 --> 00:55:34,160
Speaker 1: you know, when they opened at Baltimore September ninth. What

1141
00:55:34,239 --> 00:55:35,839
Speaker 1: do you think they should do? Who should they start

1142
00:55:35,880 --> 00:55:41,960
Speaker 1: against the Ravens. My senses they'll go with Nathan Nathan Peterman.

1143
00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:43,680
Speaker 1: That would be my sense. You know, I have no

1144
00:55:43,760 --> 00:55:46,719
Speaker 1: inside information, Murphy, you guys are there. I just think

1145
00:55:46,760 --> 00:55:50,640
Speaker 1: their schedule early on is really difficult. I think they'd

1146
00:55:50,719 --> 00:55:54,000
Speaker 1: rather they'd probably feel that they can win some games

1147
00:55:54,200 --> 00:55:57,400
Speaker 1: with the quality of their roster, and they'd like to

1148
00:55:57,480 --> 00:56:02,240
Speaker 1: win some games whenever where Josh plays. I think there'll

1149
00:56:02,239 --> 00:56:07,480
Speaker 1: be some big plays, there'll be some mistakes. Who knows

1150
00:56:07,760 --> 00:56:09,520
Speaker 1: they did trade up to get him. Murphy and I

1151
00:56:09,600 --> 00:56:12,440
Speaker 1: have had this conversation. Maybe they'll feel, you know what,

1152
00:56:13,160 --> 00:56:15,360
Speaker 1: it's okay if we take a step back, because this

1153
00:56:15,560 --> 00:56:17,719
Speaker 1: kid's going to be special, and he's a lot more

1154
00:56:17,760 --> 00:56:21,080
Speaker 1: likely to become special week nine if he plays all

1155
00:56:21,160 --> 00:56:23,400
Speaker 1: eight games prior to week nine then if he just

1156
00:56:23,520 --> 00:56:27,200
Speaker 1: starts playing week seven. So it's that's a philosophy, that's

1157
00:56:27,239 --> 00:56:30,560
Speaker 1: an organizational decision, and it's a tough one. It's a

1158
00:56:30,600 --> 00:56:34,080
Speaker 1: close one. Great yourself from NFL matchup, joins us on

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00:56:34,120 --> 00:56:36,040
Speaker 1: the line. Tell me about the sacks a half a

1160
00:56:36,120 --> 00:56:38,680
Speaker 1: dozen sacks surrendered by the Bills. You talked about Josh

1161
00:56:38,719 --> 00:56:41,520
Speaker 1: Allen's issues kind of with his drops, but what did

1162
00:56:41,560 --> 00:56:44,120
Speaker 1: you see upfront offensive line wise? And how alarms should

1163
00:56:44,120 --> 00:56:47,480
Speaker 1: the Bills be about that? Well, the first of all,

1164
00:56:47,560 --> 00:56:50,920
Speaker 1: keep in mind they played against a Bengals defensive front.

1165
00:56:51,360 --> 00:56:54,359
Speaker 1: They could have one of the best four man sub

1166
00:56:54,480 --> 00:56:57,239
Speaker 1: pass rush groups in the league. I mean they have

1167
00:56:57,400 --> 00:56:59,920
Speaker 1: lost In and Dunlap on the outside, they have Johnson

1168
00:57:00,040 --> 00:57:03,120
Speaker 1: then Atkins inside. This is a tough group to block. No.

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00:57:03,239 --> 00:57:05,040
Speaker 1: One thinks about the Bengals because they haven't been a

1170
00:57:05,080 --> 00:57:06,680
Speaker 1: great team the last couple of years. I think it's

1171
00:57:06,680 --> 00:57:08,600
Speaker 1: been three years in a row that they've been out

1172
00:57:08,640 --> 00:57:10,680
Speaker 1: of the playoffs. But this is a pretty good group,

1173
00:57:11,000 --> 00:57:14,640
Speaker 1: and the interior three in particular. You know, Groy struggled,

1174
00:57:16,560 --> 00:57:19,320
Speaker 1: the two guards struggled. It was tough. It was a

1175
00:57:19,440 --> 00:57:22,520
Speaker 1: tough goal, and you know, Josh was uncomfortable to begin with,

1176
00:57:22,680 --> 00:57:24,520
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, it seemed like on

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00:57:24,600 --> 00:57:27,400
Speaker 1: every play that he had pressure right pushed back right

1178
00:57:27,480 --> 00:57:30,560
Speaker 1: into his lap and he was just not seeing things. Clearly,

1179
00:57:30,800 --> 00:57:33,200
Speaker 1: Josh wasn't so he was holding the ball. He was

1180
00:57:33,560 --> 00:57:37,000
Speaker 1: far too deliberate. But you know, you know, you guys

1181
00:57:37,040 --> 00:57:39,320
Speaker 1: are there every day. Has this been an issue every

1182
00:57:39,400 --> 00:57:41,560
Speaker 1: day or do they just have a bad performance against

1183
00:57:41,600 --> 00:57:44,720
Speaker 1: a good group. I think it's it's somewhat of an

1184
00:57:44,760 --> 00:57:47,080
Speaker 1: issue for them moving forward, because even in that Cleveland game,

1185
00:57:47,080 --> 00:57:50,640
Speaker 1: I mean, you saw it too. The offensive line really

1186
00:57:50,720 --> 00:57:53,480
Speaker 1: didn't come to play as well as they did in

1187
00:57:53,600 --> 00:57:55,800
Speaker 1: the first preseason game of the year, and they lost

1188
00:57:55,840 --> 00:57:57,600
Speaker 1: a lot on the offensive line. Let's just be real,

1189
00:57:57,640 --> 00:58:00,600
Speaker 1: they did, and there's going to be some some pullback

1190
00:58:00,640 --> 00:58:04,720
Speaker 1: from that. No, and and you know that's another reason

1191
00:58:04,960 --> 00:58:07,200
Speaker 1: that obviously they're going to be a running team as

1192
00:58:07,240 --> 00:58:09,680
Speaker 1: a foundation. You know, McCoy will be the guy, but

1193
00:58:09,760 --> 00:58:11,400
Speaker 1: they've got a lot of depth and they can run

1194
00:58:11,480 --> 00:58:14,640
Speaker 1: the ball, and you know they want the play action

1195
00:58:14,680 --> 00:58:17,320
Speaker 1: pass game obviously, which I think they feel Josh can

1196
00:58:17,440 --> 00:58:20,720
Speaker 1: really give you the potential for some big play shot

1197
00:58:20,800 --> 00:58:23,440
Speaker 1: plays in the play action pass game off their run

1198
00:58:23,560 --> 00:58:26,680
Speaker 1: looks and their run personnel and their run formations. So

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Speaker 1: you know they may feel Josh could be the guy

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00:58:29,680 --> 00:58:33,200
Speaker 1: to do that, but the interior or the old line

1201
00:58:33,240 --> 00:58:34,960
Speaker 1: will have to play better no matter what they do

1202
00:58:35,080 --> 00:58:37,840
Speaker 1: at quarterback. Well, I was gonna say, Greg, keeping that

1203
00:58:37,920 --> 00:58:40,320
Speaker 1: in mind that that same topic about the poor play

1204
00:58:40,360 --> 00:58:44,640
Speaker 1: of the interior line, how how easy or difficult is

1205
00:58:44,680 --> 00:58:49,160
Speaker 1: it to gauge Josh Allen's performance based on just the

1206
00:58:49,640 --> 00:58:54,400
Speaker 1: helter skelter nature that was what happened up front. Well, Joe,

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00:58:54,520 --> 00:58:57,120
Speaker 1: it's the way I always look at quarterbacks, and I

1208
00:58:57,200 --> 00:58:59,320
Speaker 1: do this when I evaluate them coming out of college,

1209
00:58:59,400 --> 00:59:02,040
Speaker 1: is you have to isolate the quarterback from everything else.

1210
00:59:03,480 --> 00:59:06,600
Speaker 1: The results of the plays end up not being as

1211
00:59:06,720 --> 00:59:09,960
Speaker 1: important as the process of the plays. So when I

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00:59:10,040 --> 00:59:13,680
Speaker 1: talked about a play where he missed Benjamin where he

1213
00:59:13,800 --> 00:59:15,760
Speaker 1: had a throw and then he ended up throwing the

1214
00:59:15,800 --> 00:59:19,240
Speaker 1: incompletion on the deep ball to play. You can evaluate

1215
00:59:19,480 --> 00:59:22,840
Speaker 1: Josh Allen on that play, you know when he drops back.

1216
00:59:23,040 --> 00:59:26,120
Speaker 1: And there was another example where I think he had

1217
00:59:26,240 --> 00:59:29,160
Speaker 1: Zay Jones on a sit route off of a mesh concept.

1218
00:59:29,520 --> 00:59:32,720
Speaker 1: Now there was pressure in his face, no question. But

1219
00:59:33,200 --> 00:59:35,800
Speaker 1: if that was a more experienced quarterback who was just

1220
00:59:36,080 --> 00:59:39,640
Speaker 1: quicker doing things not as deliberate as Josh's right now,

1221
00:59:40,040 --> 00:59:43,560
Speaker 1: that ball would have gotten to Zay Jones. So you

1222
00:59:43,680 --> 00:59:47,160
Speaker 1: can evaluate the quarterback, and you can isolate the quarterback

1223
00:59:47,360 --> 00:59:49,840
Speaker 1: separate from the rest of the team. Where there are

1224
00:59:49,840 --> 00:59:53,600
Speaker 1: a couple of sacks and pressures where no quarterback could

1225
00:59:53,640 --> 00:59:56,160
Speaker 1: have made a play. Yes, but you can still isolate

1226
00:59:56,280 --> 00:59:59,080
Speaker 1: Josh Allen separate from the rest of what's going on.

1227
00:59:59,320 --> 01:00:02,440
Speaker 1: Great analysts executive producer NFL matchup on the line with

1228
01:00:02,520 --> 01:00:03,600
Speaker 1: us one. I ask you about a couple of other

1229
01:00:03,600 --> 01:00:07,640
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills and their performances yesterday and to date in preseason.

1230
01:00:07,840 --> 01:00:09,720
Speaker 1: We had Jason Cruman here about a half hour ago

1231
01:00:09,800 --> 01:00:13,120
Speaker 1: on the show, tight end former receiver at Tennessee, undrafted

1232
01:00:13,200 --> 01:00:15,800
Speaker 1: rookie free agent a year ago who's opened some eyes.

1233
01:00:15,880 --> 01:00:18,160
Speaker 1: I think he showed some flashes. What do you know

1234
01:00:18,200 --> 01:00:19,720
Speaker 1: about him and what have you seen from him this

1235
01:00:19,800 --> 01:00:23,680
Speaker 1: preseason break? Well, Jason Crum was a pretty big recruit

1236
01:00:23,720 --> 01:00:25,840
Speaker 1: out of the state of Georgia who went to Tennessee,

1237
01:00:26,400 --> 01:00:28,560
Speaker 1: got away from the Bulldogs at Georgia and he went

1238
01:00:28,640 --> 01:00:32,320
Speaker 1: there as a wide receiver Murph. So he's a big kid.

1239
01:00:32,760 --> 01:00:35,000
Speaker 1: I remember his pro day he ran about a four

1240
01:00:35,240 --> 01:00:38,600
Speaker 1: six five something like that. He ran, Well, he looks

1241
01:00:38,640 --> 01:00:42,240
Speaker 1: like a big wide receiver. I mean, he's got size, length,

1242
01:00:42,400 --> 01:00:48,960
Speaker 1: builled movement. You know, he looks the part. I remember

1243
01:00:49,000 --> 01:00:51,280
Speaker 1: plays in college when I looked at him where you know,

1244
01:00:51,920 --> 01:00:54,600
Speaker 1: he was used basically as a movement guy. He's not

1245
01:00:54,720 --> 01:00:57,840
Speaker 1: an inline blocker. He's sort of the new age tight

1246
01:00:58,040 --> 01:01:00,800
Speaker 1: end in today's NFL. Now, or a team that wants

1247
01:01:00,840 --> 01:01:04,640
Speaker 1: to run the football at a base personnel and tighter formations.

1248
01:01:04,920 --> 01:01:07,240
Speaker 1: He's not gonna line up on the line of scrimmage

1249
01:01:07,280 --> 01:01:10,680
Speaker 1: and block defensive ends. That's not his game. But when

1250
01:01:10,720 --> 01:01:15,080
Speaker 1: you start getting into some twelve personnel packages or eleven

1251
01:01:15,160 --> 01:01:18,800
Speaker 1: personnel packages, he's an interesting guy to me. I mean,

1252
01:01:19,040 --> 01:01:21,560
Speaker 1: you know, you go back and look at some of

1253
01:01:21,640 --> 01:01:25,160
Speaker 1: his plays. I remember he caught a screen versus Kentucky.

1254
01:01:25,480 --> 01:01:27,880
Speaker 1: It was probably it wasn't his last year. I think

1255
01:01:27,920 --> 01:01:30,959
Speaker 1: it was a couple of years prior, and he caught

1256
01:01:31,000 --> 01:01:33,440
Speaker 1: a screen and ran fifty plus yards for a touchdown.

1257
01:01:33,640 --> 01:01:35,960
Speaker 1: And he just looked like a wide receiver the way

1258
01:01:36,000 --> 01:01:38,320
Speaker 1: he moved. So you know, again, I don't know how

1259
01:01:38,360 --> 01:01:40,760
Speaker 1: he's doing every day in practice. You guys do, but

1260
01:01:41,560 --> 01:01:44,840
Speaker 1: tight ends like that have a definite value in today's NFL.

1261
01:01:45,720 --> 01:01:49,280
Speaker 1: Hey Greg. Also on the Bills, Tremaine Edmonds, Buffalo's other

1262
01:01:49,320 --> 01:01:52,000
Speaker 1: first round pick, looked like he took some steps forward

1263
01:01:52,040 --> 01:01:55,360
Speaker 1: with his play yesterday. Did you see that. I thought

1264
01:01:55,400 --> 01:01:57,200
Speaker 1: he struggled in the first half, Murph, and then that

1265
01:01:57,280 --> 01:01:59,760
Speaker 1: first drive in the third quarter, you kind of saw

1266
01:02:00,240 --> 01:02:03,480
Speaker 1: the athleticism and the explosive movement. You know, he made

1267
01:02:03,480 --> 01:02:06,920
Speaker 1: a play where he shot a gap he was unblocked,

1268
01:02:06,960 --> 01:02:08,480
Speaker 1: and he made a play behind the line that he

1269
01:02:08,560 --> 01:02:12,160
Speaker 1: made another play in the run where he ran inside out,

1270
01:02:12,240 --> 01:02:15,720
Speaker 1: and you saw this speed and athleticism. That's his game

1271
01:02:15,840 --> 01:02:18,520
Speaker 1: right now. He's still a beat slow with his play

1272
01:02:18,640 --> 01:02:22,120
Speaker 1: recognition in the run game, and that'll come with time

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Speaker 1: and just seeing more things. This is a team that

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Speaker 1: plays a lot of zone coverage, and I think that

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Speaker 1: he still has to get a better feel for his

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Speaker 1: drops and for his pattern reading, understanding routes and what

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Speaker 1: he should be looking at. But these are all things,

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Speaker 1: Murph and Joe that you would expect. You know, the

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Speaker 1: kid just turned twenty, I believe, so you know he's

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Speaker 1: not Luke Keikley today. You know, whether he gets to

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Speaker 1: that point, that's a tough thing. Luke Keikley's the best

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Speaker 1: mic linebacker in the game, so whether he gets to

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Speaker 1: that point certainly remains to be seen. But this is

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Speaker 1: what you go through when you draft a young player

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Speaker 1: and you're trying to teach him what it takes to

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Speaker 1: play middle linebacker in the NFL. I'm gonna push it here.

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Speaker 1: Did did do you recall watching Keikley in his infant

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Speaker 1: stages of his NFL I do, Okay, then what what

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Speaker 1: did he look like? I also recall watching him at

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Speaker 1: Boston College, and I thought he was very similar at

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Speaker 1: Boston College to what he is in the NFL in

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Speaker 1: terms of his play recognition. You know what everybody talks

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Speaker 1: about his instincts, that's an area. I thought that that

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Speaker 1: Edmonds struggled a bit in college. U Now Edmonds is

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Speaker 1: more purely athletic than Keikley. For sure, Keickley is a

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Speaker 1: very good athlete, but Edmonds is a superior athlete. But

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Speaker 1: Keikley was like that even at Boston College, Joe. So

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Speaker 1: you know, whether whether you can learn that, that's a

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Speaker 1: coaching question. You know, you guys could talk to the

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Speaker 1: linebacker coach. But you know, I think just his ability

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Speaker 1: to recognize things Quicker has to improve. We're on the

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Speaker 1: line with Greg Cosal from NFL Matchup on ESPN's longtime

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Speaker 1: senior producer at NFL Films. I want to move around

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Speaker 1: the league a little bit, Greg before we let you

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Speaker 1: go and talk about some of these other first round quarterbacks.

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Speaker 1: Sam Darnold looks like he's getting ready to be the

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Speaker 1: starter for the Jets. What have you seen from him

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Speaker 1: lately in his performance against the Giants over the weekend. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think Sam's been pretty solid. I mean, you know,

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Speaker 1: I think, you know, again, it's always hard to really

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Speaker 1: tell because you're not seeing the pressure concepts, you're not

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Speaker 1: seeing the different looks you know, specific to down in

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Speaker 1: distant situations that you'll get. But he's continued to be

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Speaker 1: decisive with his reads and his throws. I think he

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Speaker 1: has an understanding of the route concepts and where the

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Speaker 1: progressions are. You know, there's been clarity to his game,

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Speaker 1: so I think he's shown some pre snap awareness of

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Speaker 1: defensive fronts and coverage looks. I think for the most part,

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Speaker 1: he's actually played pretty pretty well. And then whether he

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Speaker 1: gets announced as the starter, I guess we'll have to

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Speaker 1: wait and see. Will they be better off going the

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Speaker 1: other way with Teddy Bridgewater. He's had a good pre

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Speaker 1: reason as well. He's had a good preseason as well.

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Speaker 1: I think that they would put Darnald out there before Bridgewater.

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Speaker 1: And again I could be dead wrong. I think that

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Speaker 1: if they wanted to go with a veteran, they go

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Speaker 1: with McCown, not Bridgewater. I think they would put Darnald

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Speaker 1: out there before Teddy. All right, the Dolphins. Lamar Jackson

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Speaker 1: went up against the Dolphins, had good number seven to ten,

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Speaker 1: ninety eight yards one touchdown, not likely to start, I

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Speaker 1: would think, But how much how much how much effort

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Speaker 1: will the Ravens put into finding a role for Lamar

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Speaker 1: Jackson or will he just sit the bench? And watch

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Speaker 1: Joe Flacco play. What do you think? You know? I

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Speaker 1: think you have to be careful with that stuff. You know,

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Speaker 1: I go back years and years as you do, Murph,

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01:05:39,880 --> 01:05:43,200
Speaker 1: our old friend from the Buffalo already of mister Jaworski.

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Speaker 1: When you know when Randall Cunningham came in the league

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Speaker 1: and Buddy Ryan had this idea that on third downs

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Speaker 1: he was gonna put Randall Cunningham in the game and

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Speaker 1: sit Jaws down. I'm sure you remember that, and you

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Speaker 1: know you got to be careful with that kind of stuff.

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Speaker 1: So I don't know what you know, John Harbor and

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Speaker 1: Marty Morning we have in mind. Was Lamar better this

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Speaker 1: week than he was in the two previous Yes, and

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Speaker 1: there's he made a play, a couple of plays that

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Speaker 1: will get people excited because they work kind of Lamar

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Speaker 1: Jackson plays. But you know, he still does not look

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Speaker 1: very comfortable to me throwing the ball. He's not a

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Speaker 1: purely natural thrower. He's kind of a flicker, and I

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Speaker 1: think that can negatively impact both his accuracy at times velocity.

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Speaker 1: So he still has a ways to go. The athletic plays.

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Speaker 1: I don't know how excited we should get about the

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Speaker 1: athletic plays, because I think we knew about that before

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Speaker 1: he got into the league. That's what he is. Greig,

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Speaker 1: what's going on with Blake Bortles in Jacksonville right now?

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Speaker 1: And they seems to have a bit of a touchy preseason. Well,

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Speaker 1: that's a great question. I watched I watched their offense,

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Speaker 1: and you know, again you're dealing with an offense, Joe.

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Speaker 1: It's they're a team that's built on running the football

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Speaker 1: and playing great defense, and they want Bortles to be

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Speaker 1: you know, for one of the better term the term

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Speaker 1: everybody knows, a system quarterback, a game manager. You know,

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Speaker 1: it's a lot of half field progression stuff with with Bortles.

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Speaker 1: They limit him as much as they possibly can. You know,

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Speaker 1: he's their quarterback. He's not going to be benched. H

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Speaker 1: you know, I don't even I guess Cody Kessler is

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Speaker 1: now their backup, so Bortles is going to play. So

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Speaker 1: it's a matter you'll find out, Joe, and I've always

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Speaker 1: been a believer in this. You'll find out what they

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Speaker 1: think of Bortles by how they start calling games when

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Speaker 1: the regular season begins. Then you'll find out what the

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Speaker 1: coaching staff thinks of him. Last thing I got for you, Greg,

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Speaker 1: Adrian Peterson with Washington Now, does he have anything left?

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Speaker 1: Can he help them out at all? Do you think?

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Speaker 1: You know? I watched all of his runs. I thought

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Speaker 1: he looked pretty good. I mean, he he he's very decisive.

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Speaker 1: He still has that urgency to the way he runs, Murph.

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Speaker 1: He made some quick cuts. I don't think he's naturally

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Speaker 1: as explosive as he once was, but he's still a

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Speaker 1: very editive runner. I thought he looked fresh. Of course,

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Speaker 1: he hadn't really been through much of a training camp,

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Speaker 1: So we'll see. You know, the Redskins last year ran

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Speaker 1: the ball on first down I think the third and

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Speaker 1: most of any team in the league. They weren't overly successful.

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Speaker 1: It'll be interesting to see if they see Peterson is

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Speaker 1: that guy? Is he going to be their first down back?

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Speaker 1: And are they going to stay with running the ball

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Speaker 1: as much as they did on first down? I hope

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Speaker 1: we have some highlights to talk about from preseason Week

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Speaker 1: number four, Greg, we might not. You know how these

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Speaker 1: games they play way way Wait do they play a

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Speaker 1: game of Week four? I didn't know that. Yeah, they

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Speaker 1: try to avoid those games, Murphy. I can't avoid him,

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Speaker 1: but I know what you mean exactly. Hey, great, thanks

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Speaker 1: for this. We'll talk to you soon. Thank you all right, guys,

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Speaker 1: appreciate it. Thanks great. Cosell he is analysts executive producer

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Speaker 1: of NFL Matchup on ESPN, long time thirty eight years,

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01:08:47,560 --> 01:08:50,479
Speaker 1: senior producer at NFL Films. Interesting stuff, and it was

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Speaker 1: I thought it was informative about Josh Allen. Joe. He

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01:08:53,880 --> 01:08:57,679
Speaker 1: spotted stuff and Josh Allen's game that goes beyond protection

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01:08:57,760 --> 01:09:01,200
Speaker 1: problems up front. Yeah, And I think that is evidence

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01:09:01,320 --> 01:09:03,760
Speaker 1: right there that because he has a keen eye, he

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01:09:04,280 --> 01:09:07,879
Speaker 1: knows what he's looking at, and I think he's probably

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Speaker 1: along the same lines of what the Bills are looking

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Speaker 1: at as well. So right now, perhaps that is some

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Speaker 1: information into or intuition as to what they might decide

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Speaker 1: to do for the first week of the season. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna talk more about that. We want to get

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Speaker 1: your thoughts on that as well. The phone lines open

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Speaker 1: at eight oh three five fifty and toll free from

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Speaker 1: outside Buffalo one eight eight eight five fifty two five

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Speaker 1: fifty quarterback situation. Awre you comfortable with where the Bills

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Speaker 1: are at quarterback? Right now? Give us a column, we'll

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01:09:34,160 --> 01:09:36,240
Speaker 1: discuss we can do it on Twitter as well. Send

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Speaker 1: us in and we'll read him off to tweet. Cheet

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Speaker 1: Joe and I back with more One Bill's Live presented

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Speaker 1: by Collida Health from One Bill's Drive and this is

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Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills Radio show on this Monday. Steve Casker is

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Speaker 1: out today and tomorrow. Joe Vits Gallia TV, Buffalo sports

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01:10:03,479 --> 01:10:06,839
Speaker 1: director who joined us a long time follower and reporter

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Speaker 1: on the Buffalo Bills. A lot to say, and we're

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Speaker 1: both talking during the break a little bit about Greg

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Speaker 1: Cosell and his observations on Josh Allen and look, Greg

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Speaker 1: knows more about quarterback player than I do, and his

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Speaker 1: thoughts about Josh not taking the right depth to match

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01:10:21,320 --> 01:10:24,519
Speaker 1: the routes they were being run. That concerns me a

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Speaker 1: little bit, and I ask Greg, is that a typical,

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Speaker 1: you know, thing a young guy will do. He said, well,

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Speaker 1: some do it, but you know that seems to me

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01:10:31,200 --> 01:10:33,519
Speaker 1: would be an easy fix. But it's got to get fixed,

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Speaker 1: right If you think about him as your potential starter,

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Speaker 1: you can't live like that. Yes, What is also important

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Speaker 1: is that he made the distinction after we asked if

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Speaker 1: that is something that he had done before in this preseason,

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Speaker 1: to which he said no. Against the Browns that was

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Speaker 1: not as much of an issue. So you can isolate

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Speaker 1: the game as maybe just a game where things just

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Speaker 1: went terribly or maybe he was a little bit too

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Speaker 1: nervous about it being his first start, maybe a little

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01:10:58,640 --> 01:11:02,080
Speaker 1: bit too excited about it. But all that said, I

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01:11:02,160 --> 01:11:05,280
Speaker 1: mean there were some glaring weaknesses from that game from

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen and quite obviously Greg has the has the

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Speaker 1: ability to watch the actual film. I mean, we all

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Speaker 1: have have a game pass and so we can watch

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Speaker 1: the film in the regular season, but that's not available

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Speaker 1: in preseason. So what he is seeing is worth its

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Speaker 1: weight in gold right here. With with that, and I

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Speaker 1: think for Josh and and what Greg saw, I think

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01:11:27,360 --> 01:11:30,040
Speaker 1: that is a big time window into what the Bills

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01:11:30,040 --> 01:11:32,400
Speaker 1: are deciding on with this starting quarterback job. And yes,

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01:11:32,479 --> 01:11:34,360
Speaker 1: the offensive line had a role to play there, Joe

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01:11:34,439 --> 01:11:36,360
Speaker 1: and yeah, maybe some of this is Josh not being

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01:11:36,400 --> 01:11:39,240
Speaker 1: comfortable in his protection upfront, which forced him not to

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01:11:39,360 --> 01:11:43,599
Speaker 1: take the sufficient depth on his drops, you know, to throw.

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Speaker 1: But as he said, you know, you got to work

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Speaker 1: through that. When you're a quarterback in the NFL, you

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01:11:47,800 --> 01:11:50,280
Speaker 1: got to you gotta just if if you're not getting

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Speaker 1: good protection, do something else, right, And I think that

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Speaker 1: was a good point that Greg Cosall made as well. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: the great quarterbacks in this league, they are able to

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Speaker 1: deal with offensive line play. I mean, think about Russell

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Speaker 1: Wilson the last two years. He had nobody in front

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Speaker 1: him and this look, I'm not trying to say Josh

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Speaker 1: Allen needs to be at that level right now. He

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Speaker 1: is quite literally three preseason games into his NFL career.

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm not going over the edge here, but when

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Speaker 1: you think about what these quarterbacks have evolved into Wilson,

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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers, Tom Brady, they have all dealt with poor

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Speaker 1: offensive line units in front of them, and they have

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Speaker 1: flourished even in spite of those factors. So that's a

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Speaker 1: part of the progression that Josh Allen has to make

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Speaker 1: as well. Is he equipped to deal with taking hits

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Speaker 1: because he's a bigger framed guy and he can escape pressure. Yeah? Absolutely.

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Speaker 1: Do you want him to take those hits? No, you

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Speaker 1: really don't. You want him to get the ball out

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Speaker 1: or move his feet, get out and around the pocket,

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01:12:51,200 --> 01:12:54,040
Speaker 1: change the angle of what he's seeing downfield, receivers and

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Speaker 1: then go from there. And then, by the way, keeping

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Speaker 1: all your lower body and your upper body insane, keeping

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Speaker 1: your lower body in sync with what's going on around

1482
01:13:03,520 --> 01:13:05,960
Speaker 1: you and the routes, which is what Greg talked about.

1483
01:13:06,320 --> 01:13:09,680
Speaker 1: And at this point, if that is an issue that

1484
01:13:09,800 --> 01:13:13,160
Speaker 1: they saw in a crucial game, don't start him to

1485
01:13:13,280 --> 01:13:15,000
Speaker 1: start the year. You have have Peterman do it and

1486
01:13:15,040 --> 01:13:16,840
Speaker 1: then develop him in the background. Gotta believe this is

1487
01:13:16,880 --> 01:13:19,360
Speaker 1: part of the discussion going on today as they review

1488
01:13:19,439 --> 01:13:21,880
Speaker 1: the video from yesterday. We're talking about it too. On

1489
01:13:22,000 --> 01:13:25,080
Speaker 1: the quarterback question, are you comfortable with the Bill's quarterback

1490
01:13:25,160 --> 01:13:28,120
Speaker 1: situation today? And if so, why, if not, why give

1491
01:13:28,200 --> 01:13:30,040
Speaker 1: us a call eight oh three oh five fifty or

1492
01:13:30,080 --> 01:13:32,639
Speaker 1: twelve three one eight eight eight five fifty two five

1493
01:13:32,760 --> 01:13:35,040
Speaker 1: fifty or you can tweet an end. We'll read it

1494
01:13:35,120 --> 01:13:37,719
Speaker 1: on the tweet sheet. From sipping the kool aid. Peterman

1495
01:13:37,760 --> 01:13:40,439
Speaker 1: should be named the starter today. Now it's not to

1496
01:13:40,520 --> 01:13:42,680
Speaker 1: say he will be the starter of the entire year, though,

1497
01:13:43,000 --> 01:13:45,320
Speaker 1: until the on line gets better, the Bills need Peterman's

1498
01:13:45,479 --> 01:13:47,719
Speaker 1: get rid of the ball quick type of play. Perhaps

1499
01:13:47,800 --> 01:13:49,640
Speaker 1: he is why the number one on line flaws did

1500
01:13:49,720 --> 01:13:52,040
Speaker 1: not show up in the Carolina game. I love the point.

1501
01:13:52,160 --> 01:13:54,840
Speaker 1: I love that his name not only is Sipping the

1502
01:13:54,880 --> 01:13:57,360
Speaker 1: kool Aid, but his handle is s the kool Aid.

1503
01:13:58,240 --> 01:14:00,240
Speaker 1: I'm into it. He's got a good point. Nice work,

1504
01:14:00,400 --> 01:14:02,880
Speaker 1: Nathan's getting rid of the ball quickly, maybe not giving

1505
01:14:02,880 --> 01:14:06,680
Speaker 1: the offensive line time to, you know, show how substandard

1506
01:14:06,720 --> 01:14:09,200
Speaker 1: they are. I also wonder this too, and this was

1507
01:14:09,200 --> 01:14:12,400
Speaker 1: spurred on by something you said earlier today. When the

1508
01:14:12,680 --> 01:14:16,200
Speaker 1: Bills in that first preseason game, Peterman was with the

1509
01:14:16,280 --> 01:14:18,720
Speaker 1: first team, right, and it seemed like that was the

1510
01:14:18,800 --> 01:14:21,840
Speaker 1: game that they actually enforced some of their game plan,

1511
01:14:21,920 --> 01:14:25,160
Speaker 1: their offensive game plan. And it almost seems as though

1512
01:14:25,240 --> 01:14:28,479
Speaker 1: the last two weeks with McCarron and with Allen that

1513
01:14:28,880 --> 01:14:31,000
Speaker 1: hasn't been the case. It's been a lot more bland.

1514
01:14:31,640 --> 01:14:33,960
Speaker 1: I wonder if that is a distinction we need to

1515
01:14:34,000 --> 01:14:36,800
Speaker 1: make in this quarterback discussion as well, because if they

1516
01:14:37,240 --> 01:14:40,360
Speaker 1: actually schemed for that game and went through and wanted

1517
01:14:40,400 --> 01:14:42,439
Speaker 1: to accomplish some things that they had been working on

1518
01:14:42,600 --> 01:14:45,400
Speaker 1: in practice that they'll actually use in the regular season,

1519
01:14:45,680 --> 01:14:50,280
Speaker 1: I think that counts for something maybe in the favor

1520
01:14:50,360 --> 01:14:52,760
Speaker 1: of McCarron and Allen, almost because they've had to deal

1521
01:14:52,800 --> 01:14:58,599
Speaker 1: with those less than ideal scenarios in their own time

1522
01:14:58,640 --> 01:15:00,800
Speaker 1: with the first team offense. Also from the tweet sheet

1523
01:15:00,800 --> 01:15:03,720
Speaker 1: the Bills Monster tweets in Peterman looked good even with

1524
01:15:03,800 --> 01:15:07,200
Speaker 1: poor offensive line performance. His quick release and decision making

1525
01:15:07,280 --> 01:15:09,479
Speaker 1: will be what we need to help mask our issues.

1526
01:15:09,640 --> 01:15:12,439
Speaker 1: That's a good point and from maker of tweets. Maker

1527
01:15:12,479 --> 01:15:15,519
Speaker 1: of tweets love that handle too. Peterman has a quick release,

1528
01:15:15,520 --> 01:15:18,719
Speaker 1: but he's limited on his throws, which scares me. Allen's

1529
01:15:18,760 --> 01:15:20,920
Speaker 1: performance reminded me of when he was in college facing

1530
01:15:20,960 --> 01:15:23,760
Speaker 1: bigger schools. He seems to freeze up. Peterman was the

1531
01:15:23,800 --> 01:15:26,320
Speaker 1: best quarterback in my opinion. Did Josh Allen freeze up

1532
01:15:26,320 --> 01:15:29,160
Speaker 1: against bigger schools? I don't know. If I watched most

1533
01:15:29,240 --> 01:15:34,360
Speaker 1: of his highlights, he had his moments in those games.

1534
01:15:34,520 --> 01:15:38,519
Speaker 1: I mean the stats obviously were not there. Yeah, And

1535
01:15:38,880 --> 01:15:41,920
Speaker 1: I've gone back and watched all the games that I

1536
01:15:41,960 --> 01:15:45,040
Speaker 1: possibly could have on Josh Allen in his college days,

1537
01:15:45,280 --> 01:15:50,679
Speaker 1: and what you see is a major discrepancy of talent

1538
01:15:50,800 --> 01:15:53,479
Speaker 1: from one side to the other all over the field.

1539
01:15:53,560 --> 01:15:56,519
Speaker 1: Not just in terms of Josh Allen as opposed to

1540
01:15:56,600 --> 01:15:59,040
Speaker 1: the opposing team. I'm talking about his offensive line in

1541
01:15:59,080 --> 01:16:01,680
Speaker 1: front of him, his receiver around him. I mean, he

1542
01:16:01,880 --> 01:16:06,040
Speaker 1: was just never instinct for him, especially and those games

1543
01:16:06,040 --> 01:16:09,080
Speaker 1: against the big schools, those talent discrepancies are going to

1544
01:16:09,120 --> 01:16:11,880
Speaker 1: show up more than anything. However, he also made some

1545
01:16:12,000 --> 01:16:15,960
Speaker 1: plays that you're going, dude, don't throw that, don't don't

1546
01:16:16,000 --> 01:16:18,320
Speaker 1: do that, and that's the things that he has to

1547
01:16:18,360 --> 01:16:21,720
Speaker 1: work through. But he also had moments and signs of

1548
01:16:22,320 --> 01:16:25,080
Speaker 1: brilliance in those games to where you have to say, Okay, well,

1549
01:16:25,120 --> 01:16:26,720
Speaker 1: maybe there is something there if you had some better

1550
01:16:26,960 --> 01:16:29,800
Speaker 1: talent around him. Joe was Scalu from www TV Channel

1551
01:16:29,800 --> 01:16:32,360
Speaker 1: seven in Buffalo, co hosting today Joe comes up. You

1552
01:16:32,439 --> 01:16:34,560
Speaker 1: do this every game observations. I've been doing it for

1553
01:16:34,600 --> 01:16:38,080
Speaker 1: about eight years. Yeah, seven observations, Joe wrote last night

1554
01:16:38,120 --> 01:16:41,080
Speaker 1: from the Bills Cincinnati Bengals game, and you start right

1555
01:16:41,160 --> 01:16:44,000
Speaker 1: in with Josh Allen. And admittedly it was tough to

1556
01:16:44,040 --> 01:16:46,280
Speaker 1: get a fairy gage, I'll be honest, great co sales

1557
01:16:46,280 --> 01:16:49,240
Speaker 1: observation helps me clear up some of the issues, right, absolutely, right,

1558
01:16:49,320 --> 01:16:51,519
Speaker 1: And that's that's part of the beauty of being able

1559
01:16:51,560 --> 01:16:55,080
Speaker 1: to watch the film, because that's it's so telling when

1560
01:16:55,160 --> 01:16:59,000
Speaker 1: you can see things and see when where his head

1561
01:16:59,200 --> 01:17:01,320
Speaker 1: is directed to and what he's looking at, if he's

1562
01:17:01,320 --> 01:17:04,879
Speaker 1: staring down a target, if he's locking on and allowing

1563
01:17:05,040 --> 01:17:07,559
Speaker 1: defenders to predict where he's going to go with the ball,

1564
01:17:07,880 --> 01:17:10,479
Speaker 1: that is worth its weight in gold. And so hearing

1565
01:17:10,560 --> 01:17:12,439
Speaker 1: that from Greg after he has actually gone through and

1566
01:17:12,520 --> 01:17:15,120
Speaker 1: seeing the coaches film, seeing the end zone angle and

1567
01:17:15,720 --> 01:17:18,639
Speaker 1: the wide angle and seeing all of these different things.

1568
01:17:18,760 --> 01:17:22,280
Speaker 1: If if he is not doing the things that the

1569
01:17:22,400 --> 01:17:25,560
Speaker 1: rudimentary things that you need him to do, then just

1570
01:17:26,439 --> 01:17:28,599
Speaker 1: keep him, keep him at bay right now, and then

1571
01:17:28,680 --> 01:17:31,040
Speaker 1: work with them. Yeah, work with them obviously, but keep

1572
01:17:31,080 --> 01:17:33,000
Speaker 1: them keep him in the background for now, Joe. Was

1573
01:17:33,400 --> 01:17:36,000
Speaker 1: his observation number two. Nathan Peterman looks closer to be

1574
01:17:36,080 --> 01:17:38,320
Speaker 1: in quarterback one of the three. And there's a quote

1575
01:17:38,320 --> 01:17:41,160
Speaker 1: in here where you go Peterman stand. There stands Peterman

1576
01:17:41,720 --> 01:17:45,080
Speaker 1: standing upright, operating the offense efficiently in each of his

1577
01:17:45,200 --> 01:17:48,080
Speaker 1: three performances, and through it all it's a consistency and

1578
01:17:48,200 --> 01:17:50,720
Speaker 1: good fortune of avoiding an injury that ultimately could make

1579
01:17:50,800 --> 01:17:53,360
Speaker 1: him the starter. I agree with that, Joe. I will say, though,

1580
01:17:53,400 --> 01:17:55,760
Speaker 1: and I think sometimes I've detected somebody. You know, this

1581
01:17:55,920 --> 01:17:58,160
Speaker 1: is not like a blue ribbon or a gold medal

1582
01:17:58,200 --> 01:18:00,280
Speaker 1: to be awarded at the end of every season. It's

1583
01:18:00,320 --> 01:18:02,840
Speaker 1: a simple question who the starting quarterback is September night,

1584
01:18:03,120 --> 01:18:05,560
Speaker 1: Who gives you the best chance to win? It's not

1585
01:18:05,720 --> 01:18:08,400
Speaker 1: a you know, achievement award for Nathan Peterman. He may want,

1586
01:18:08,479 --> 01:18:10,080
Speaker 1: he may be the guy who gives him the best

1587
01:18:10,160 --> 01:18:12,960
Speaker 1: chance to win. And his numbers are are really good.

1588
01:18:13,320 --> 01:18:15,639
Speaker 1: But I know the Bills won't get caught up in well,

1589
01:18:16,040 --> 01:18:18,400
Speaker 1: we can't give it to We can not give it

1590
01:18:18,479 --> 01:18:21,400
Speaker 1: to Nathan Peterman because his numbers are so good. No,

1591
01:18:21,560 --> 01:18:23,200
Speaker 1: they don't care about the numbers. And Steve and I

1592
01:18:23,280 --> 01:18:25,639
Speaker 1: get into this argument last week. The numbers are irrelevant.

1593
01:18:25,640 --> 01:18:27,360
Speaker 1: Who gives you the best chance to win? Yeah, it's

1594
01:18:27,520 --> 01:18:31,080
Speaker 1: it's almost spend like a war of attrition with these three, like, yeah, okay,

1595
01:18:31,160 --> 01:18:34,360
Speaker 1: who who can outlast the other? The other two? And

1596
01:18:34,400 --> 01:18:36,559
Speaker 1: it seems like Peterman is that guy at the moment.

1597
01:18:36,640 --> 01:18:38,639
Speaker 1: And that's not to take away from what he's done.

1598
01:18:39,040 --> 01:18:42,240
Speaker 1: And he is getting the ball out quickly. And Sean McDermott,

1599
01:18:42,240 --> 01:18:45,240
Speaker 1: whenever he talks about Nathan Peterman, he highlights the fact

1600
01:18:45,439 --> 01:18:47,280
Speaker 1: that he puts the ball in a spot where his

1601
01:18:47,400 --> 01:18:49,960
Speaker 1: receivers cannot only catch the ball, but then make a

1602
01:18:50,040 --> 01:18:52,880
Speaker 1: play after the catch, and that's important for them, especially

1603
01:18:52,920 --> 01:18:55,679
Speaker 1: if they're going based on timing and everything along those lines.

1604
01:18:55,920 --> 01:18:59,839
Speaker 1: He is, Nathan Peterman is a disciple of the process.

1605
01:19:00,200 --> 01:19:02,840
Speaker 1: That guy stays out almost as late as any other

1606
01:19:02,920 --> 01:19:06,400
Speaker 1: player to every single practice. Hey, you're a fourth string

1607
01:19:06,479 --> 01:19:08,439
Speaker 1: running back, you want to work on your routes, Keith Ford,

1608
01:19:08,600 --> 01:19:10,800
Speaker 1: I'll go do that for the next twenty five minutes

1609
01:19:10,840 --> 01:19:13,559
Speaker 1: of my wife. I mean, it's just the small things

1610
01:19:13,640 --> 01:19:17,760
Speaker 1: that Sean McDermott, it just seems like he gets a

1611
01:19:17,760 --> 01:19:20,240
Speaker 1: twinkle in his eye whenever whenever he's talking about Nathan Peter.

1612
01:19:20,400 --> 01:19:22,760
Speaker 1: It really does. I mean, I mean, he loves the

1613
01:19:22,840 --> 01:19:25,640
Speaker 1: guy and he often sticks up for him, and I

1614
01:19:26,080 --> 01:19:29,000
Speaker 1: wonder if there's a small part of them that feels

1615
01:19:29,200 --> 01:19:31,600
Speaker 1: kind of responsible for what happened in Los Angeles and

1616
01:19:31,760 --> 01:19:35,240
Speaker 1: the stigma that's following Nathan Peterman around, because they they

1617
01:19:35,360 --> 01:19:37,880
Speaker 1: have pointed out numerous times that they don't think he

1618
01:19:37,920 --> 01:19:39,519
Speaker 1: gets enough credit for what he did in the first

1619
01:19:39,560 --> 01:19:41,519
Speaker 1: half against the Indianapolis Colts, and I'll agree with that.

1620
01:19:41,560 --> 01:19:44,720
Speaker 1: He looked pretty good with the conditions that he was

1621
01:19:44,760 --> 01:19:47,720
Speaker 1: going against. So I think I think the Bills would

1622
01:19:47,800 --> 01:19:51,840
Speaker 1: feel well comfortable with starting and you know, till you're

1623
01:19:51,840 --> 01:19:54,439
Speaker 1: pointing on the stigma of the Chargers game, other than

1624
01:19:54,720 --> 01:19:58,360
Speaker 1: national perspective and Network TV, which you know mentioned, did

1625
01:19:58,439 --> 01:20:00,280
Speaker 1: probably feel compelled to mention it. I don't I think

1626
01:20:00,320 --> 01:20:02,840
Speaker 1: that that stays with with Nathan Peterman, at least among

1627
01:20:02,920 --> 01:20:05,040
Speaker 1: Bills fans and people to follow the Bills. I don't

1628
01:20:05,040 --> 01:20:08,639
Speaker 1: ever think about that game, that horrible first half. It's

1629
01:20:08,640 --> 01:20:11,000
Speaker 1: just it's not that relevant now on Nathan Peterman. I

1630
01:20:11,040 --> 01:20:13,320
Speaker 1: don't think it. And even at the time, it didn't

1631
01:20:13,360 --> 01:20:16,439
Speaker 1: indicate that he was, you know, it was bad or

1632
01:20:16,560 --> 01:20:19,360
Speaker 1: deeply flawed quarterback. It was a very very rough starting

1633
01:20:19,439 --> 01:20:21,559
Speaker 1: and it started off right right off the bat LA.

1634
01:20:21,720 --> 01:20:26,000
Speaker 1: It's relevant to the point where you have you have

1635
01:20:26,720 --> 01:20:29,920
Speaker 1: to see what he is doing now because in that game,

1636
01:20:30,479 --> 01:20:32,880
Speaker 1: he's still doing some things that he did poorly in

1637
01:20:32,920 --> 01:20:34,960
Speaker 1: that game, which is what we talked about, driving the

1638
01:20:35,000 --> 01:20:36,800
Speaker 1: ball to the outside. That's going to be an issue

1639
01:20:36,800 --> 01:20:38,880
Speaker 1: for him. I think he's a quarterback. It's arm strength,

1640
01:20:39,000 --> 01:20:42,040
Speaker 1: but there's also the issue of trying to force a

1641
01:20:42,080 --> 01:20:44,479
Speaker 1: play when things are breaking down around you, and that's

1642
01:20:44,520 --> 01:20:47,360
Speaker 1: what led to a lot of his interceptions against the

1643
01:20:47,439 --> 01:20:50,120
Speaker 1: Chargers and they're down twenty one to nothing, or he's

1644
01:20:50,160 --> 01:20:52,680
Speaker 1: doing a better job of that nowhere where he is

1645
01:20:52,920 --> 01:20:56,519
Speaker 1: not falling prey to those mistakes as much so, he's

1646
01:20:56,600 --> 01:20:59,120
Speaker 1: learning as he's going on. And you know, it's it's

1647
01:20:59,160 --> 01:21:01,720
Speaker 1: a stark number by all means. Five picks in the

1648
01:21:01,760 --> 01:21:04,240
Speaker 1: first half and then getting Besh and it blew up

1649
01:21:04,280 --> 01:21:06,880
Speaker 1: in mcdermot's face a little bit. But there's more to

1650
01:21:07,080 --> 01:21:09,640
Speaker 1: him than that performance. You'll be seven observations from the

1651
01:21:09,680 --> 01:21:13,000
Speaker 1: Bills Bengals game. It's up on WKBW dot com. Panic

1652
01:21:13,080 --> 01:21:15,560
Speaker 1: over the interior offensive line is one of your observations.

1653
01:21:15,600 --> 01:21:21,640
Speaker 1: Are you panicking a little slightly? Okay? I mean I

1654
01:21:21,800 --> 01:21:24,600
Speaker 1: also thought that vlad Dukas had a pretty bad preseason

1655
01:21:24,680 --> 01:21:26,400
Speaker 1: last year and then he turned around and we played

1656
01:21:26,400 --> 01:21:28,560
Speaker 1: at a pretty average level last year, and he was

1657
01:21:28,600 --> 01:21:30,920
Speaker 1: definitely an upgrade over John Miller when he replaced him

1658
01:21:30,920 --> 01:21:34,240
Speaker 1: in the starting lineup. I thought John Miller could could

1659
01:21:34,280 --> 01:21:36,920
Speaker 1: come back this year and have a pretty solid campaign

1660
01:21:37,040 --> 01:21:40,960
Speaker 1: or a much better and there are signs, I mean,

1661
01:21:41,040 --> 01:21:43,719
Speaker 1: he is a talented enough player and he's shown signs

1662
01:21:43,760 --> 01:21:47,320
Speaker 1: of that in actual regular season games. But man, it

1663
01:21:47,439 --> 01:21:49,920
Speaker 1: did not go well for him on yesterday. Yesterday, it's

1664
01:21:49,920 --> 01:21:52,400
Speaker 1: a really good defensive front. It is, it is, and

1665
01:21:52,479 --> 01:21:56,519
Speaker 1: he was going up against Atkins and Billings, but he

1666
01:21:56,640 --> 01:21:58,320
Speaker 1: has to be able to put up somewhat of a fight.

1667
01:21:59,080 --> 01:22:01,519
Speaker 1: It was not good yesterday. Yeah, I agree. This is

1668
01:22:01,560 --> 01:22:03,960
Speaker 1: one of your observations Vonte Davis struggling to hang on

1669
01:22:04,040 --> 01:22:06,559
Speaker 1: to his job, that this is this is something that's

1670
01:22:06,560 --> 01:22:09,599
Speaker 1: coming out nowhereans would take it. Philip Gaines got basically

1671
01:22:09,720 --> 01:22:11,600
Speaker 1: half the first half. I'm not there. I know, I

1672
01:22:11,680 --> 01:22:13,559
Speaker 1: saw the playing time yesterday. Yeah, I don't know if

1673
01:22:13,560 --> 01:22:15,280
Speaker 1: he would be an upgrade. I'm not. I don't think

1674
01:22:15,600 --> 01:22:18,000
Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm not there yet. Well, what is Vonte

1675
01:22:18,080 --> 01:22:19,920
Speaker 1: Davis at this point in his career? I think that's

1676
01:22:19,920 --> 01:22:22,120
Speaker 1: a question that needs to be asked too. Yes, because

1677
01:22:22,680 --> 01:22:26,599
Speaker 1: he's coming off the injury and he's getting up there

1678
01:22:26,640 --> 01:22:29,040
Speaker 1: in age. He used to be a really good quarterback,

1679
01:22:29,120 --> 01:22:31,599
Speaker 1: a really good man cover cornerback. He's also never had

1680
01:22:31,680 --> 01:22:34,479
Speaker 1: to dive too far into the zone principles that he

1681
01:22:34,560 --> 01:22:37,240
Speaker 1: always had to write. And so now he's in a

1682
01:22:37,320 --> 01:22:40,960
Speaker 1: spot where that's his base, and does he have to

1683
01:22:41,000 --> 01:22:44,519
Speaker 1: speed to catch up on those spots where he's sitting

1684
01:22:44,560 --> 01:22:46,519
Speaker 1: in his zone and he needs to go make a

1685
01:22:46,560 --> 01:22:49,160
Speaker 1: play on a receiver that's outside of that zone. Does

1686
01:22:49,240 --> 01:22:52,200
Speaker 1: he have that Kenny turn and run when he's in

1687
01:22:52,280 --> 01:22:58,280
Speaker 1: those man responsibilities nowadays? It that John Ross touchdown pass

1688
01:22:58,479 --> 01:23:00,439
Speaker 1: was a perfect example of what I'm talking talking about.

1689
01:23:00,560 --> 01:23:04,320
Speaker 1: Davis tried to turn and run. His hips were too tight,

1690
01:23:05,400 --> 01:23:07,960
Speaker 1: he felt and you could say, oh, well, he's stumbled,

1691
01:23:08,000 --> 01:23:10,320
Speaker 1: that's not really his fault. Well, that's part of the job.

1692
01:23:10,479 --> 01:23:12,280
Speaker 1: That's part of being able to turn and run. And

1693
01:23:12,920 --> 01:23:16,080
Speaker 1: so I wonder if maybe they're just trying to push

1694
01:23:16,200 --> 01:23:19,479
Speaker 1: him or because Philip Gaines is a very I guess

1695
01:23:19,560 --> 01:23:22,439
Speaker 1: overwhelming prospect. I don't know. I don't really haven't seen

1696
01:23:22,479 --> 01:23:24,759
Speaker 1: too much from him, but it's this is a bigger

1697
01:23:24,840 --> 01:23:30,320
Speaker 1: point now, cornerback outside of Tredavious White, and that's a

1698
01:23:30,640 --> 01:23:33,960
Speaker 1: major area of concern in my mind. Terren Johnson has

1699
01:23:33,960 --> 01:23:35,720
Speaker 1: played well at Nicol, but if we're talking about the

1700
01:23:35,800 --> 01:23:38,320
Speaker 1: depth of the boundary corners and the one starting job.

1701
01:23:38,760 --> 01:23:40,439
Speaker 1: I think they need to find somebody on the waiver

1702
01:23:40,520 --> 01:23:42,960
Speaker 1: wire there. I really do, and they might they should.

1703
01:23:43,280 --> 01:23:45,599
Speaker 1: I guess one ware your observations, and I think great

1704
01:23:45,640 --> 01:23:49,519
Speaker 1: Cosell kind of gave Tremaine Edmund's short shrift for I

1705
01:23:49,600 --> 01:23:52,400
Speaker 1: thought they had a pretty solid game yesterday, Cosell said,

1706
01:23:52,560 --> 01:23:54,760
Speaker 1: not until the second half, But you right in your

1707
01:23:54,800 --> 01:23:57,400
Speaker 1: observations Tremaine Edmonds settling in. I think he was, and

1708
01:23:57,680 --> 01:23:59,120
Speaker 1: it was pretty good in the first half. Yeah, I

1709
01:23:59,360 --> 01:24:01,760
Speaker 1: thought he's been He was a lot better this time

1710
01:24:01,800 --> 01:24:03,519
Speaker 1: around than he had been in his first two games.

1711
01:24:03,560 --> 01:24:05,400
Speaker 1: I think it's been a slow progression for him. And

1712
01:24:05,760 --> 01:24:09,280
Speaker 1: believe me, I respect everything that Greg says. And that's

1713
01:24:09,280 --> 01:24:13,439
Speaker 1: why football is so wonderful because two people that are

1714
01:24:13,520 --> 01:24:16,080
Speaker 1: study the game can see two different things on a

1715
01:24:16,160 --> 01:24:20,519
Speaker 1: certain thing. But with Tremaine Edmunds, we've seen him settle

1716
01:24:20,560 --> 01:24:22,599
Speaker 1: in a little bit with those instincts that we're talking.

1717
01:24:22,680 --> 01:24:25,040
Speaker 1: Is he still slow to react, yes, but the signs

1718
01:24:25,080 --> 01:24:27,519
Speaker 1: are there of him getting it in the running game.

1719
01:24:27,840 --> 01:24:30,200
Speaker 1: It's the zone coverage that I think needs to come next,

1720
01:24:30,240 --> 01:24:32,880
Speaker 1: where he gets frozen a little bit when he's just

1721
01:24:33,040 --> 01:24:35,280
Speaker 1: in that spot. This is something that Luke Keekley is

1722
01:24:35,280 --> 01:24:38,360
Speaker 1: tremendous in because he can be set up ten yards

1723
01:24:38,439 --> 01:24:40,160
Speaker 1: away from the line of scrimmage, right in the middle

1724
01:24:40,160 --> 01:24:42,280
Speaker 1: of the defense, and he can know where the play

1725
01:24:42,439 --> 01:24:44,679
Speaker 1: is going and he reacts before the quarterback even throws

1726
01:24:44,720 --> 01:24:48,519
Speaker 1: the ball. Edmunds isn't there yet, and you shouldn't think

1727
01:24:48,560 --> 01:24:51,559
Speaker 1: that he is there yet because he's still twenty years

1728
01:24:51,600 --> 01:24:53,439
Speaker 1: old and still learning everything like that. So I think

1729
01:24:53,479 --> 01:24:56,720
Speaker 1: for Edmunds, it's fans need to be patient with him.

1730
01:24:56,960 --> 01:24:58,760
Speaker 1: He doesn't play a position where he can just come

1731
01:24:58,800 --> 01:25:03,360
Speaker 1: in off like Gangbusters. Right. He's playing a very complex

1732
01:25:03,560 --> 01:25:08,559
Speaker 1: middle linebacker role in a linebacker friendly scheme to numbers,

1733
01:25:09,000 --> 01:25:11,600
Speaker 1: but only when you have a full grasp of the

1734
01:25:11,680 --> 01:25:13,760
Speaker 1: defense of the playbook. So it's it's gonna take some

1735
01:25:13,880 --> 01:25:15,439
Speaker 1: time for a lot of good stuff here. Joe b

1736
01:25:15,680 --> 01:25:18,360
Speaker 1: seven observations from the Bills Bengals game. It's on the

1737
01:25:18,560 --> 01:25:22,320
Speaker 1: WKBW dot com website. We've got Joe has an observation

1738
01:25:22,360 --> 01:25:25,840
Speaker 1: about mascots. Yeah, dude, he wants to share with us. Well,

1739
01:25:26,000 --> 01:25:28,280
Speaker 1: we're gonna let him. Why wouldn't let him? Right, No,

1740
01:25:29,280 --> 01:25:32,200
Speaker 1: that's coming up next, mascot news. I'm always a mascot news, Joe.

1741
01:25:32,200 --> 01:25:34,759
Speaker 1: We'll talk about him. We return. It is One Bills

1742
01:25:34,800 --> 01:25:37,360
Speaker 1: Live from One Bill's Driving. This is Buffalo Bills Radio.

1743
01:25:48,080 --> 01:25:51,280
Speaker 1: Welcome back, John Murphy, Joe Vascalia is our co host

1744
01:25:51,320 --> 01:25:53,920
Speaker 1: today and tomorrow's Steve Tasker on a much deserved vacation

1745
01:25:54,040 --> 01:25:56,640
Speaker 1: for a couple of days. I mean, you work a

1746
01:25:56,680 --> 01:25:58,080
Speaker 1: week and a half, you gotta have a few days

1747
01:25:58,120 --> 01:25:59,920
Speaker 1: off after that. Man, good work if you can get

1748
01:26:01,360 --> 01:26:03,160
Speaker 1: I hope he hears all of these messages too. I

1749
01:26:03,200 --> 01:26:07,000
Speaker 1: hope he does. Joe had his seven observations from yesterday's game,

1750
01:26:07,040 --> 01:26:08,640
Speaker 1: and then when he walked in the door today he

1751
01:26:08,760 --> 01:26:11,880
Speaker 1: had an eighth observation. I did tell us about it,

1752
01:26:11,960 --> 01:26:14,880
Speaker 1: Joe was for you yesterday, you know. In the Battle

1753
01:26:15,280 --> 01:26:19,519
Speaker 1: of the two Billy Buffalo's, I think I think I

1754
01:26:20,120 --> 01:26:21,800
Speaker 1: like the new one better than the old one. So

1755
01:26:21,880 --> 01:26:25,320
Speaker 1: the Bills unveil the new Billy Buffalo got a makeover

1756
01:26:25,560 --> 01:26:28,519
Speaker 1: right yesterday's game. I think I think I like that

1757
01:26:28,600 --> 01:26:31,519
Speaker 1: one more. Why it's it's a little more kid friendly. Yeah,

1758
01:26:31,600 --> 01:26:34,519
Speaker 1: and it's definitely more kid friendly, that's for sure. Um.

1759
01:26:35,520 --> 01:26:39,600
Speaker 1: You know, I just to me, it seems like the

1760
01:26:39,760 --> 01:26:42,760
Speaker 1: colors and it just he's got a smile. I mean,

1761
01:26:42,800 --> 01:26:47,240
Speaker 1: shouldn't mascots have a smile. Yeah. Well, apparently the old

1762
01:26:47,320 --> 01:26:51,160
Speaker 1: Billy Buffalo was not being well received among the youngsters,

1763
01:26:51,880 --> 01:26:53,760
Speaker 1: and I think it had something to do with the smile,

1764
01:26:53,840 --> 01:26:55,920
Speaker 1: the look on his face and Billy Buffalo. I mean,

1765
01:26:56,160 --> 01:26:58,120
Speaker 1: don't get me wrong, he was. He was fierce looking

1766
01:26:58,479 --> 01:27:01,719
Speaker 1: everything like that. But if we're if we're talking about

1767
01:27:01,880 --> 01:27:05,680
Speaker 1: like mascot Olympics here, you want somebody that you can

1768
01:27:05,720 --> 01:27:07,960
Speaker 1: go and take a picture with, so old Billy Buffalo

1769
01:27:08,680 --> 01:27:11,320
Speaker 1: if you're watching an msg old Billy Buffalo on the left,

1770
01:27:11,760 --> 01:27:14,840
Speaker 1: not quite the smile that New Billy Buffalo gets. I

1771
01:27:14,960 --> 01:27:17,000
Speaker 1: also liked that they got rid of the purple from

1772
01:27:17,160 --> 01:27:18,960
Speaker 1: the from the Last Billy. Now that we've got the

1773
01:27:19,000 --> 01:27:20,880
Speaker 1: side by side here, now we can really get into

1774
01:27:20,880 --> 01:27:23,640
Speaker 1: the nitty gritty of the mascot to Baker here. I

1775
01:27:24,479 --> 01:27:26,960
Speaker 1: think it's I think it's a good change. I really do. So.

1776
01:27:27,280 --> 01:27:30,000
Speaker 1: Hoofs up, hoofs hoofs up from Joe b for the

1777
01:27:30,040 --> 01:27:33,200
Speaker 1: New Billy Buffalo the makeover. Yeah up, how about this one, Joe.

1778
01:27:33,240 --> 01:27:36,120
Speaker 1: This happened over the weekend our buddy Kiko Alonso, Dolphins linebacker,

1779
01:27:36,479 --> 01:27:40,760
Speaker 1: Saturday night home against the Baltimore Ravens. Keiko Alonso made

1780
01:27:40,800 --> 01:27:42,880
Speaker 1: a tackle after a short catch by a Ravens tight

1781
01:27:43,000 --> 01:27:46,479
Speaker 1: end forced a field goal. Kiko went to the wrong bench.

1782
01:27:46,680 --> 01:27:49,920
Speaker 1: He kept running to the Baltimore sideline. He turned backward,

1783
01:27:49,960 --> 01:27:51,720
Speaker 1: looking through at the field, and then back pedal, only

1784
01:27:51,760 --> 01:27:53,720
Speaker 1: to find himself he was right on the bench with

1785
01:27:53,800 --> 01:27:56,479
Speaker 1: the Baltimore Ravens. Look, we know Keiko. You know how

1786
01:27:56,520 --> 01:27:58,120
Speaker 1: he is. This is the first time I'm actually saying

1787
01:27:58,240 --> 01:28:00,960
Speaker 1: he's great. I love Kiko. He's been a great guest

1788
01:28:01,000 --> 01:28:02,439
Speaker 1: on the show. He was great when he played for

1789
01:28:02,439 --> 01:28:05,040
Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills. At some point, though, he has to

1790
01:28:05,080 --> 01:28:06,800
Speaker 1: realize I'm going to the wrong sideline, and one of

1791
01:28:06,800 --> 01:28:10,080
Speaker 1: the Ravens coaches tried to help him, and he didn't

1792
01:28:10,120 --> 01:28:13,880
Speaker 1: even realize standing on the Ravens sideline. He's like, go

1793
01:28:14,000 --> 01:28:16,360
Speaker 1: over there, Yeah, hey, where are you going? Get out here?

1794
01:28:16,640 --> 01:28:19,920
Speaker 1: That's a Ko. John Harvest even had to say, go

1795
01:28:20,280 --> 01:28:23,560
Speaker 1: this is hilarious. Kiko went to the wrong bench and

1796
01:28:24,360 --> 01:28:27,840
Speaker 1: apparently showed no remorse over it. His quote was, I

1797
01:28:28,000 --> 01:28:32,240
Speaker 1: just went over there. It was the wrong sideline. It happens, Keko.

1798
01:28:32,479 --> 01:28:34,559
Speaker 1: I've never seen it happen. I know. I don't think

1799
01:28:34,600 --> 01:28:38,160
Speaker 1: that happens. Man. I mean, I respect your opinion on

1800
01:28:38,560 --> 01:28:41,880
Speaker 1: the matter, but I think you should probably be able

1801
01:28:41,920 --> 01:28:44,599
Speaker 1: to tell what colored jersey you're wearing and which team

1802
01:28:44,640 --> 01:28:46,720
Speaker 1: you play for. I think that he spends enough time

1803
01:28:46,760 --> 01:28:48,920
Speaker 1: with him and he should be able to realize those things.

1804
01:28:48,960 --> 01:28:51,760
Speaker 1: Am I wrong? You're right? He said, it was non intentional.

1805
01:28:52,240 --> 01:28:54,800
Speaker 1: I did a flipover guy went over there with my

1806
01:28:54,880 --> 01:28:57,759
Speaker 1: head down. I was totally fine. People were saying the Keiko,

1807
01:28:57,800 --> 01:29:00,000
Speaker 1: Are you concust He said he was not. He said

1808
01:29:00,160 --> 01:29:02,120
Speaker 1: Ravens players and coaching were saying to him, get out

1809
01:29:02,160 --> 01:29:03,960
Speaker 1: of here, but he didn't know whether he should lead

1810
01:29:03,960 --> 01:29:06,320
Speaker 1: the sideline they were already lined up to was asking

1811
01:29:06,360 --> 01:29:09,840
Speaker 1: him if he was concost that fans No, some of

1812
01:29:09,880 --> 01:29:12,200
Speaker 1: the guys on the sideline imagine right, the Robbins saying

1813
01:29:12,240 --> 01:29:13,680
Speaker 1: what's wrong with you? What are you doing over here?

1814
01:29:14,200 --> 01:29:16,320
Speaker 1: Love kecope, but that was pretty wild, all right, Joe

1815
01:29:16,360 --> 01:29:17,880
Speaker 1: and I back with more. We got one more hour

1816
01:29:17,920 --> 01:29:20,439
Speaker 1: to go. Chris Brown, Bills Inside or Buffalo Bills dot Com. Stay,

1817
01:29:20,479 --> 01:29:22,680
Speaker 1: anybody to join us. More from you as well as

1818
01:29:22,720 --> 01:29:24,960
Speaker 1: we get your thoughts on the Bill's quarterback situation. Are

1819
01:29:25,040 --> 01:29:27,439
Speaker 1: you comfortable? Yes? No? Either way, we want to hear

1820
01:29:27,479 --> 01:29:29,800
Speaker 1: from your lines open eight oh three five fifty and

1821
01:29:29,880 --> 01:29:32,599
Speaker 1: toll free one eight eight eight by fifty two five

1822
01:29:32,720 --> 01:29:35,479
Speaker 1: fifty one does lie from One Bill's Drive on Buffalo

1823
01:29:35,560 --> 01:29:49,280
Speaker 1: Bills Radio Helo Hills Radio Network. Story update from One

1824
01:29:49,360 --> 01:29:52,080
Speaker 1: Bill's Drive. The Bills are at work today after yesterday's

1825
01:29:52,120 --> 01:29:55,000
Speaker 1: loss to the Cincinnati Bengals in preseason game number three.

1826
01:29:55,360 --> 01:29:58,479
Speaker 1: More questions and answers yesterday, really Head coach Sean McDermott

1827
01:29:58,760 --> 01:30:00,639
Speaker 1: may clear up some of those qu when he meets

1828
01:30:00,680 --> 01:30:02,840
Speaker 1: with the media at four fifteen this afternoon. He's got

1829
01:30:02,880 --> 01:30:05,040
Speaker 1: a quarterback decision to make. Who should start the season

1830
01:30:05,080 --> 01:30:07,840
Speaker 1: opener September ninth, and who will start this Thursday night

1831
01:30:07,920 --> 01:30:10,960
Speaker 1: in the preseason finale against Chicago. Second your man Nathan

1832
01:30:11,000 --> 01:30:13,960
Speaker 1: Peterman making a strong case for himself against the Bengals,

1833
01:30:14,000 --> 01:30:16,120
Speaker 1: and he's been good in three straight games. It's not

1834
01:30:16,320 --> 01:30:18,880
Speaker 1: known whether vetteran Aj McCarron may be available to play

1835
01:30:18,960 --> 01:30:22,080
Speaker 1: this Thursday in Chicago. McDermott did not rule out adding

1836
01:30:22,080 --> 01:30:24,280
Speaker 1: another quarterback to the roster this week to finish out

1837
01:30:24,320 --> 01:30:26,840
Speaker 1: the preseason. Bill say have some offensive line issues to

1838
01:30:26,880 --> 01:30:29,920
Speaker 1: clear up and several other other roster spots of the side.

1839
01:30:29,960 --> 01:30:33,000
Speaker 1: The final preseason game just three days away in Chicago,

1840
01:30:33,080 --> 01:30:37,240
Speaker 1: with the cutdowns coming up Saturday afternoon, Cincinnati Bengals with

1841
01:30:37,640 --> 01:30:41,639
Speaker 1: five sacks on Josh Allen yesterday. Alan blames himself. He said,

1842
01:30:41,640 --> 01:30:43,240
Speaker 1: I did not do a good enough job getting the

1843
01:30:43,280 --> 01:30:46,639
Speaker 1: ball out on time and into the playmaker's hands. Alan

1844
01:30:46,720 --> 01:30:49,479
Speaker 1: six of twelve passing for thirty four yards with sack

1845
01:30:49,560 --> 01:30:52,240
Speaker 1: five times in that game. New York Giants getting close

1846
01:30:52,320 --> 01:30:54,759
Speaker 1: to a deal to make Odell Beckham Junior the highest

1847
01:30:54,800 --> 01:30:57,080
Speaker 1: paid receiver in the NFL. That according to a couple

1848
01:30:57,120 --> 01:31:00,599
Speaker 1: of reports from NFL Network, Beckham miss most of last

1849
01:31:00,680 --> 01:31:02,439
Speaker 1: year with an injury, but he is ready to come

1850
01:31:02,479 --> 01:31:04,080
Speaker 1: back and ready to get a huge deal from the

1851
01:31:04,120 --> 01:31:07,679
Speaker 1: New York Giants. Apparently elsewhere in the NFL. Sean McVay

1852
01:31:07,720 --> 01:31:09,720
Speaker 1: says he expects to have Aaron Donald back in the

1853
01:31:09,800 --> 01:31:11,920
Speaker 1: full by the end of this week. Donald held out

1854
01:31:11,920 --> 01:31:14,519
Speaker 1: the last offseason and is yet to report to the

1855
01:31:14,680 --> 01:31:17,439
Speaker 1: Rams camp, but Sean mcfay says he hopes to see

1856
01:31:17,520 --> 01:31:19,479
Speaker 1: him by the end of this week. Veteran wide receiver

1857
01:31:19,640 --> 01:31:21,879
Speaker 1: Eric Decker signed a one year contract with the Patriots

1858
01:31:21,960 --> 01:31:25,320
Speaker 1: three weeks ago, announced there's a retirement on Instagram. Yesterday.

1859
01:31:25,520 --> 01:31:28,559
Speaker 1: Patriots signed him after they released Jordan Matthews. Their receiver

1860
01:31:28,680 --> 01:31:31,519
Speaker 1: spot has had some volatility in training camp, and they

1861
01:31:31,560 --> 01:31:34,639
Speaker 1: look pretty thin. Also on the Patriots, Tom Brady abruptly

1862
01:31:34,760 --> 01:31:38,120
Speaker 1: ended his weekly interview on sports Radio today, saying twice

1863
01:31:38,160 --> 01:31:39,679
Speaker 1: that he did not want to get into the topic

1864
01:31:39,720 --> 01:31:42,240
Speaker 1: of his personal trainer. Once again traveling with a team

1865
01:31:42,520 --> 01:31:45,600
Speaker 1: and the US Open Tennis tournament begins today and a

1866
01:31:45,680 --> 01:31:48,320
Speaker 1: long list of returns. The schedule today includes Serena williams

1867
01:31:48,360 --> 01:31:51,840
Speaker 1: Andy Murray, and Stan Wallrinco all pass champions at Flushing Meadow.

1868
01:31:52,120 --> 01:31:54,920
Speaker 1: The US Open Tennis at Flushing Meadow. It starts today.

1869
01:31:55,439 --> 01:31:57,360
Speaker 1: Welcome back our three of the show One Bill's Life,

1870
01:31:57,360 --> 01:32:00,599
Speaker 1: presented by Kalada Health job as Gallia in replace Steve

1871
01:32:00,680 --> 01:32:02,760
Speaker 1: Tasker today and tomorrow for US as Steve is on

1872
01:32:03,040 --> 01:32:07,160
Speaker 1: an extended vacation, and we're joined by Chris Brown. You

1873
01:32:07,240 --> 01:32:09,320
Speaker 1: can't even say it with a straight face anymore. I

1874
01:32:09,479 --> 01:32:12,519
Speaker 1: like the way you laughed at Steven, I said earlier.

1875
01:32:12,520 --> 01:32:13,840
Speaker 1: I'm going to repeat it this so much. I like

1876
01:32:13,960 --> 01:32:15,960
Speaker 1: this joke. Steve is with the rest of the CBS

1877
01:32:16,000 --> 01:32:19,920
Speaker 1: crew getting their marching orders from Bob Kraft. Oh that's

1878
01:32:19,960 --> 01:32:22,479
Speaker 1: a good one, thanks, Bernie, Thanks for laughing. Sure, so

1879
01:32:22,520 --> 01:32:24,559
Speaker 1: obviously you're not watching the show in the other Steve

1880
01:32:24,680 --> 01:32:28,519
Speaker 1: part time tasker boy. Welcome Bernie, that's what I call

1881
01:32:28,720 --> 01:32:32,800
Speaker 1: you are a long Islander by birth. Did you ever

1882
01:32:32,840 --> 01:32:35,400
Speaker 1: spend any time at Flushing Meadow US Open? Um? No,

1883
01:32:36,120 --> 01:32:40,080
Speaker 1: My parents are tennis players now in their retirement, and

1884
01:32:40,160 --> 01:32:42,160
Speaker 1: we're always into it. I've tried to find a way.

1885
01:32:42,400 --> 01:32:44,720
Speaker 1: That's a tough ticket. Yeah, it's I've tried to get

1886
01:32:44,800 --> 01:32:47,160
Speaker 1: them tickets and stuff. My dad's birthdays next week, so

1887
01:32:47,680 --> 01:32:49,160
Speaker 1: I always try to see if there's a way to

1888
01:32:49,240 --> 01:32:51,120
Speaker 1: do that. But man, it gets steep in a hurry.

1889
01:32:52,160 --> 01:32:54,320
Speaker 1: It's a great show. I've no people who lived there, Yeah,

1890
01:32:54,640 --> 01:32:57,559
Speaker 1: would not miss the US Open at least some weeknight.

1891
01:32:57,600 --> 01:32:59,600
Speaker 1: They love going at night to see the matches. Yeah. You,

1892
01:32:59,800 --> 01:33:01,000
Speaker 1: but you want to go to like one of the

1893
01:33:01,080 --> 01:33:03,560
Speaker 1: better matches, You're gonna pay a premium for it, you

1894
01:33:03,640 --> 01:33:05,840
Speaker 1: really are, because you know, the seating is well, it's

1895
01:33:05,880 --> 01:33:07,720
Speaker 1: bigger than it used to be, you know, once they

1896
01:33:07,800 --> 01:33:12,160
Speaker 1: built Arthur Ashe Stadium. But um, it's because I think

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01:33:12,200 --> 01:33:15,800
Speaker 1: it's because they know the general clientele of people that

1898
01:33:15,920 --> 01:33:20,200
Speaker 1: watched sit and watch tennis are usually high income usually,

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01:33:20,640 --> 01:33:23,280
Speaker 1: and so they charge prices accordingly because they know people

1900
01:33:23,280 --> 01:33:25,400
Speaker 1: are gonna pay it. And so then you get people

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01:33:25,439 --> 01:33:27,759
Speaker 1: that you know may want to actually see a professional

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01:33:27,880 --> 01:33:30,720
Speaker 1: tennis match and they're like, holy crap, this is out

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01:33:30,760 --> 01:33:34,439
Speaker 1: of my price rings. Yeah, and you can. You're getting

1904
01:33:34,479 --> 01:33:36,960
Speaker 1: close to four figures real fast per ticket. Like so

1905
01:33:37,760 --> 01:33:42,000
Speaker 1: that's that's that's too rich for my boots. Yeah. Well,

1906
01:33:42,080 --> 01:33:43,680
Speaker 1: and you know how it works in New York. All

1907
01:33:43,720 --> 01:33:45,840
Speaker 1: the brokers buy them up and then sell them at

1908
01:33:45,880 --> 01:33:48,240
Speaker 1: it even more money, so it becomes even harder. So

1909
01:33:48,479 --> 01:33:49,960
Speaker 1: and yet you'll pay that kind of money to see

1910
01:33:49,960 --> 01:33:52,080
Speaker 1: Hamilton in New York, won't you. I did not pay

1911
01:33:52,160 --> 01:33:54,840
Speaker 1: that kind of money to see Hamilton. No I did not. No,

1912
01:33:55,000 --> 01:33:58,600
Speaker 1: I did not. I now know, come on, now, don't know.

1913
01:33:58,880 --> 01:34:01,639
Speaker 1: I mean it was it was. It was good, good

1914
01:34:01,720 --> 01:34:03,360
Speaker 1: money that I paid for it. But I would say

1915
01:34:03,400 --> 01:34:05,519
Speaker 1: it was worth it. It was really good. Chris Brown

1916
01:34:05,600 --> 01:34:08,000
Speaker 1: Bills Insider, Buffalo Bills not count really good. Show my

1917
01:34:08,120 --> 01:34:12,200
Speaker 1: daughters into all that theaters. I'm tooid talking about yesterday's game.

1918
01:34:12,240 --> 01:34:14,519
Speaker 1: Oh you are, okay, that's what we're doing. Tell me

1919
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Speaker 1: about your thoughts. I know you had a lot of

1920
01:34:16,120 --> 01:34:20,479
Speaker 1: observations about yesterday. Would you think yeah, not good? Not good?

1921
01:34:21,080 --> 01:34:23,280
Speaker 1: In a lot of areas, and you know, the defense

1922
01:34:23,400 --> 01:34:24,960
Speaker 1: is kind of getting a pass here. With all the

1923
01:34:25,560 --> 01:34:29,080
Speaker 1: consternation about the offensive line, they were not very good either.

1924
01:34:29,640 --> 01:34:34,400
Speaker 1: Um you know, a lot of chunk plays, poor technique. Um,

1925
01:34:35,040 --> 01:34:37,080
Speaker 1: you know there were some bright spots on defense too.

1926
01:34:37,240 --> 01:34:40,920
Speaker 1: I thought, you know, Tremaine Edmonds kind of is starting

1927
01:34:40,920 --> 01:34:42,800
Speaker 1: to get it here. I don't think he's all the

1928
01:34:42,840 --> 01:34:44,479
Speaker 1: way there, and there are going to be growing pains

1929
01:34:44,479 --> 01:34:47,280
Speaker 1: and he is going to make mistakes, but I think

1930
01:34:47,360 --> 01:34:51,040
Speaker 1: his confidence got a got a dose, uh, and it

1931
01:34:51,200 --> 01:34:53,600
Speaker 1: needed it because he was struggling. Did you ask the

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01:34:53,720 --> 01:34:56,639
Speaker 1: question I listened to mcdermot's postgame, did you ask coach

1933
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Speaker 1: the question about the near interception that Tremaine and And

1934
01:35:00,080 --> 01:35:01,920
Speaker 1: it was a good question, I said. I said, it

1935
01:35:02,040 --> 01:35:04,920
Speaker 1: looked as though when he almost made that interception, it's

1936
01:35:04,960 --> 01:35:08,000
Speaker 1: like he got a dose of confidence because he played

1937
01:35:08,200 --> 01:35:11,960
Speaker 1: differently after that, much more aggressive, much more confident. I mean,

1938
01:35:12,000 --> 01:35:14,240
Speaker 1: it's basically me, Joe and Vic in the front row there.

1939
01:35:14,280 --> 01:35:16,760
Speaker 1: Everybody else was in the locker room because they only

1940
01:35:16,840 --> 01:35:19,519
Speaker 1: bring the coach to the lectern there after the game

1941
01:35:19,560 --> 01:35:22,439
Speaker 1: in the preseason, so everybody was you know, everybody wants

1942
01:35:22,439 --> 01:35:24,040
Speaker 1: to go get the quarterbacks and everything, and I get

1943
01:35:24,040 --> 01:35:26,840
Speaker 1: all the hunters. Yeah, so I mean I get all that,

1944
01:35:27,000 --> 01:35:30,160
Speaker 1: But I just I thought after that play that the

1945
01:35:30,280 --> 01:35:34,160
Speaker 1: MSG viewers are watching now his game kind of he

1946
01:35:34,240 --> 01:35:36,880
Speaker 1: flipped a switch and he was making tackles for loss,

1947
01:35:37,000 --> 01:35:39,920
Speaker 1: he was reading the plays more confidently. I thought he

1948
01:35:40,000 --> 01:35:42,519
Speaker 1: was even playing off Milano better, as those two guys

1949
01:35:42,560 --> 01:35:43,680
Speaker 1: are gonna be on the field a lot, and I

1950
01:35:43,720 --> 01:35:47,440
Speaker 1: thought Milano stepped forward and probably had his best preseason

1951
01:35:47,560 --> 01:35:50,439
Speaker 1: game so far. Not that the first one was anything

1952
01:35:50,479 --> 01:35:53,439
Speaker 1: to write home about, but I thought he played better.

1953
01:35:53,520 --> 01:35:56,839
Speaker 1: So that's encouraging to me, at least from the Nickel package,

1954
01:35:56,840 --> 01:35:58,120
Speaker 1: which is going to be on the field a lot,

1955
01:35:58,160 --> 01:36:00,080
Speaker 1: and it's gonna be those two guys more off and

1956
01:36:00,120 --> 01:36:02,560
Speaker 1: than not. They're going to have to make plays, and

1957
01:36:02,720 --> 01:36:05,880
Speaker 1: so it was encouraging to see them, you know, start

1958
01:36:05,960 --> 01:36:09,479
Speaker 1: to perform the way their athletic ability says they should. Yeah,

1959
01:36:09,600 --> 01:36:12,360
Speaker 1: two things on what you said. One, the wake up

1960
01:36:12,400 --> 01:36:15,160
Speaker 1: call with Milano seems to have worked with from Sean

1961
01:36:15,240 --> 01:36:17,599
Speaker 1: McDermott and you know, questioning whether or not he's actually

1962
01:36:17,640 --> 01:36:21,040
Speaker 1: going to be the starting player. Secondly, I totally agree

1963
01:36:21,080 --> 01:36:23,160
Speaker 1: with you on Edmunds. I mean, it seemed like he

1964
01:36:23,520 --> 01:36:27,240
Speaker 1: is just making slight progressions every single week to where

1965
01:36:27,280 --> 01:36:29,439
Speaker 1: he's playing with a little bit more confidence getting forward,

1966
01:36:29,640 --> 01:36:31,720
Speaker 1: but it's he's still not all the way there. And

1967
01:36:32,000 --> 01:36:35,240
Speaker 1: it's tough to expect a guy at that position, that young,

1968
01:36:35,640 --> 01:36:37,400
Speaker 1: that's being asked to do all these different things that

1969
01:36:37,439 --> 01:36:40,439
Speaker 1: he didn't do in college, to do that immediately and

1970
01:36:40,560 --> 01:36:42,439
Speaker 1: to be really good at it. Right, he didn't run

1971
01:36:42,520 --> 01:36:45,040
Speaker 1: the defense at Tech because they would use him as

1972
01:36:45,040 --> 01:36:47,960
Speaker 1: a rusher. And you know, they had another guy run

1973
01:36:48,040 --> 01:36:51,320
Speaker 1: the defense there. His name escapes me. But Kelso and

1974
01:36:51,439 --> 01:36:54,200
Speaker 1: I on the pregame show yesterday we're having a long

1975
01:36:54,360 --> 01:36:59,719
Speaker 1: debate about where they're they're lining Edmunds up pre snap,

1976
01:37:00,479 --> 01:37:02,840
Speaker 1: at least yesterday, is about four yards from the line

1977
01:37:02,880 --> 01:37:05,439
Speaker 1: of scrimmage. And Mark is a big proponent of lining

1978
01:37:05,520 --> 01:37:07,439
Speaker 1: him in up five yards from the line of scrimmage

1979
01:37:07,800 --> 01:37:10,920
Speaker 1: because he is such an athlete. And I said, Mark,

1980
01:37:11,160 --> 01:37:12,880
Speaker 1: you know, I'm not going to pretend to know the

1981
01:37:13,040 --> 01:37:14,640
Speaker 1: xs and os like you do or any of the

1982
01:37:14,680 --> 01:37:16,360
Speaker 1: members of the coaching staff. I said, but I do

1983
01:37:16,520 --> 01:37:19,800
Speaker 1: know this. Any player in the National Football League is

1984
01:37:19,840 --> 01:37:22,720
Speaker 1: faster running forward than they are running backwards, said, so

1985
01:37:22,840 --> 01:37:25,800
Speaker 1: why not put him at five yards in what is

1986
01:37:25,800 --> 01:37:28,400
Speaker 1: a passing league where we see more passing on first

1987
01:37:28,439 --> 01:37:30,360
Speaker 1: down than maybe ever before in the history of the league.

1988
01:37:30,479 --> 01:37:32,160
Speaker 1: Put him at five yards deep. So it is if

1989
01:37:32,200 --> 01:37:35,240
Speaker 1: it is coverage, he's that much closer to the coverage assignment.

1990
01:37:35,280 --> 01:37:36,719
Speaker 1: Where if you have him at three and a half

1991
01:37:36,840 --> 01:37:39,200
Speaker 1: or four yards to try to get him to the

1992
01:37:39,280 --> 01:37:42,200
Speaker 1: gap faster. You're in a run play. You know, now

1993
01:37:42,240 --> 01:37:44,439
Speaker 1: he's got a drop, find his look, you know, find

1994
01:37:44,520 --> 01:37:47,560
Speaker 1: his target and you know, find his coverage assignment and

1995
01:37:47,640 --> 01:37:50,960
Speaker 1: whatever that is. And I think it's harder. It's making

1996
01:37:51,040 --> 01:37:53,200
Speaker 1: it harder for him. Where if you're five yards deep

1997
01:37:53,200 --> 01:37:55,040
Speaker 1: in it's a run play, the guy runs a four

1998
01:37:55,080 --> 01:37:57,479
Speaker 1: or five four forty, he's probably still going to get there.

1999
01:37:58,200 --> 01:38:00,320
Speaker 1: Plus he's it's easier to scrape over the time when

2000
01:38:00,320 --> 01:38:02,080
Speaker 1: you're a little deeper. We had this long. It was

2001
01:38:02,160 --> 01:38:04,920
Speaker 1: really good. I mean, you you know, little advertisement for

2002
01:38:04,960 --> 01:38:07,120
Speaker 1: the pregame show. You gotta listen because Kelso is breaking

2003
01:38:07,160 --> 01:38:09,800
Speaker 1: it down and he's really time to break it down there. Yeah,

2004
01:38:09,920 --> 01:38:11,519
Speaker 1: when I'm with him during the no he's got ten

2005
01:38:11,600 --> 01:38:14,320
Speaker 1: seconds seconds and you're chasing him, shutting him up to

2006
01:38:14,479 --> 01:38:16,920
Speaker 1: call the next player. Yeah, oh you listen. Well, yeah,

2007
01:38:17,360 --> 01:38:19,679
Speaker 1: Chris Brown is with US Bills Insider from Buffalo bills

2008
01:38:19,680 --> 01:38:21,960
Speaker 1: dot Com, myself and jobs Galli. Here, let's take some

2009
01:38:22,040 --> 01:38:26,439
Speaker 1: phone calls for Chris eighth fifty excuse me and outside

2010
01:38:26,479 --> 01:38:29,800
Speaker 1: Buffalo one eight eight eight by fifty two five fifty

2011
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Speaker 1: David calling from Brockport. Go ahead, David, you're on the air, John.

2012
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Speaker 1: I have three things if you don't mind, go ahead, David. Okay.

2013
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Speaker 1: Why um, I have a receiver, I mute the TV

2014
01:38:46,439 --> 01:38:49,080
Speaker 1: and plays the radio during the game. Yeah. Why does

2015
01:38:49,160 --> 01:38:53,840
Speaker 1: Fox a minute off? And CBS is right on in

2016
01:38:54,040 --> 01:38:56,519
Speaker 1: terms of delay video and the radio. Yeah, the delay

2017
01:38:56,560 --> 01:38:59,360
Speaker 1: because they're coming from different places. You're watching the game

2018
01:38:59,400 --> 01:39:01,840
Speaker 1: and you know it's bouncing off satellites on TV and

2019
01:39:02,240 --> 01:39:04,200
Speaker 1: and it might not be doing that on the radio.

2020
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Speaker 1: And every game is different. It's not just a Fox

2021
01:39:06,600 --> 01:39:09,000
Speaker 1: CBS thing. Every game is a little bit different, just

2022
01:39:09,160 --> 01:39:11,120
Speaker 1: takes Its deposed on how you get your signal. What

2023
01:39:11,439 --> 01:39:13,960
Speaker 1: are you watching on direct TV or over the air

2024
01:39:14,080 --> 01:39:18,960
Speaker 1: or cable? What are you doing pretty air? Cable? Yeah? Yeah, cable, Yeah,

2025
01:39:19,000 --> 01:39:21,400
Speaker 1: I mean every signal is different. It's they used to

2026
01:39:21,479 --> 01:39:23,439
Speaker 1: match it up. Yeah, it's unfortunate they can't do it

2027
01:39:23,479 --> 01:39:26,360
Speaker 1: anymore because everybody's got a different delivery system to their house.

2028
01:39:26,840 --> 01:39:31,280
Speaker 1: Biologize for that. Um My thoughts. I think the first

2029
01:39:31,360 --> 01:39:34,479
Speaker 1: string offensive line needs to be moved the second string.

2030
01:39:35,600 --> 01:39:37,360
Speaker 1: Who would you play and who would you play in

2031
01:39:37,400 --> 01:39:42,200
Speaker 1: the first string? Then does the second string? Oh boy, okay,

2032
01:39:42,400 --> 01:39:45,960
Speaker 1: keep it because all three quarterbacks, the second string and

2033
01:39:46,080 --> 01:39:49,080
Speaker 1: the third string, they've done very well. But the first

2034
01:39:49,120 --> 01:39:53,440
Speaker 1: string Peterman did okay, but the offensive line and Baltimore

2035
01:39:53,560 --> 01:39:59,400
Speaker 1: wasn't as good as Cleveland and and Sinsati the defensive line. Okay,

2036
01:39:59,400 --> 01:40:01,519
Speaker 1: we'll talk about line. What is your third thing, David

2037
01:40:03,120 --> 01:40:07,840
Speaker 1: um I'd like to hear from Pollion, Bill Pollion about

2038
01:40:07,960 --> 01:40:12,720
Speaker 1: Frank Reich since he drafted him, what about him? And

2039
01:40:13,760 --> 01:40:17,439
Speaker 1: since he drafted him? And also also if we met

2040
01:40:17,560 --> 01:40:21,120
Speaker 1: them in the AFC Championship game, which which team he

2041
01:40:21,160 --> 01:40:24,240
Speaker 1: would root for? Bill probably have a hard time. I

2042
01:40:24,280 --> 01:40:26,880
Speaker 1: think he'd root for the Bills. Thank you, David. Good questions.

2043
01:40:26,960 --> 01:40:29,000
Speaker 1: Let's talk about the offensive line for a second. Yeah,

2044
01:40:29,080 --> 01:40:31,800
Speaker 1: don't flip the first and second to that line. It

2045
01:40:31,840 --> 01:40:34,120
Speaker 1: would be bad. It would be really really bad. Um

2046
01:40:34,280 --> 01:40:37,040
Speaker 1: And I know the first team offensive line didn't really

2047
01:40:37,840 --> 01:40:41,240
Speaker 1: show up all that well in that game against against

2048
01:40:41,280 --> 01:40:44,519
Speaker 1: the Bengals. But you're you're going to be doing a

2049
01:40:44,600 --> 01:40:47,840
Speaker 1: lot more with that group than you are with the

2050
01:40:48,479 --> 01:40:51,360
Speaker 1: like Butckers of the world and and well here and

2051
01:40:51,479 --> 01:40:54,240
Speaker 1: Connor McDermott. Interesting thing, David, no disrespect to them, but

2052
01:40:54,280 --> 01:40:56,240
Speaker 1: they're just not at the same level. Chris David's got

2053
01:40:56,280 --> 01:41:00,000
Speaker 1: an interesting point because, in essence, Sean McDermott almost flipped

2054
01:41:00,040 --> 01:41:01,840
Speaker 1: first and second teamers with what he did. But then

2055
01:41:02,160 --> 01:41:04,519
Speaker 1: three man rotation up front, right, was that the right

2056
01:41:04,560 --> 01:41:08,000
Speaker 1: spot to do? Then? In I know they're competing agendas.

2057
01:41:08,040 --> 01:41:09,720
Speaker 1: Joe and I talked about it. I want to see

2058
01:41:09,760 --> 01:41:11,080
Speaker 1: what these guys can do, but you also have a

2059
01:41:11,200 --> 01:41:14,519
Speaker 1: rookie quarterback making his first start. Yeah, and you know

2060
01:41:14,680 --> 01:41:17,639
Speaker 1: in defense of the offensive line, and believe me, there

2061
01:41:18,040 --> 01:41:20,040
Speaker 1: they've got more than their share of the blame as

2062
01:41:20,080 --> 01:41:23,240
Speaker 1: to why the offense was going backwards not forwards in

2063
01:41:23,320 --> 01:41:27,960
Speaker 1: that game. Josh Allen rightly put some blame on himself too,

2064
01:41:28,120 --> 01:41:30,960
Speaker 1: because I was trying to keep track of it and

2065
01:41:31,240 --> 01:41:33,800
Speaker 1: there were more than a handful of times where he's

2066
01:41:33,800 --> 01:41:38,200
Speaker 1: breaking the huddle at twelve eleven seconds, ten seconds. Now

2067
01:41:38,280 --> 01:41:41,240
Speaker 1: you get up to the line with seven or eight seconds,

2068
01:41:41,280 --> 01:41:45,080
Speaker 1: there is no time to diagnose the defense and maybe

2069
01:41:45,160 --> 01:41:49,040
Speaker 1: make a check. You've given your center no time to

2070
01:41:49,280 --> 01:41:51,839
Speaker 1: change a line call if he feels one is warranted,

2071
01:41:52,320 --> 01:41:54,400
Speaker 1: and to do that on third down, which he did

2072
01:41:54,520 --> 01:41:57,160
Speaker 1: twice in the game. To do that on third down,

2073
01:41:58,120 --> 01:42:00,840
Speaker 1: you really put your offensive line in buying there, because

2074
01:42:00,880 --> 01:42:02,639
Speaker 1: if the center wants to make a change and there's

2075
01:42:02,640 --> 01:42:04,559
Speaker 1: seven seconds on the play clock and it's third down,

2076
01:42:04,600 --> 01:42:07,920
Speaker 1: there's no time left to do that. And Josh even

2077
01:42:07,960 --> 01:42:10,880
Speaker 1: admitted I get up there and I don't have time

2078
01:42:10,920 --> 01:42:13,439
Speaker 1: to dissect the defense because I'm getting them out of

2079
01:42:13,479 --> 01:42:14,840
Speaker 1: the huddle too late, and I'm getting up to the

2080
01:42:14,920 --> 01:42:17,240
Speaker 1: line too late. So you're all ready before the ball

2081
01:42:17,320 --> 01:42:20,760
Speaker 1: is even snapped. You're putting your offense at a disadvantage.

2082
01:42:21,360 --> 01:42:23,840
Speaker 1: That's on Josh because as the quarterback, you got to

2083
01:42:23,880 --> 01:42:26,200
Speaker 1: get the play call red, You gotta get out of

2084
01:42:26,200 --> 01:42:27,880
Speaker 1: the huddle, and you got to get guys up to

2085
01:42:27,920 --> 01:42:31,360
Speaker 1: the line, especially as a young quarterback who hasn't seen

2086
01:42:31,439 --> 01:42:34,320
Speaker 1: everything in this league. And this isn't even defenses that

2087
01:42:34,360 --> 01:42:37,719
Speaker 1: are really scheming you. Yet you get to the regular season,

2088
01:42:38,640 --> 01:42:40,240
Speaker 1: it's gonna be all you better be getting up there

2089
01:42:40,280 --> 01:42:42,920
Speaker 1: with about eighteen twenty seconds left if you're going to

2090
01:42:42,960 --> 01:42:44,280
Speaker 1: be the guy. And I don't know that he's going

2091
01:42:44,320 --> 01:42:47,479
Speaker 1: to be the guy, because last night or yesterday kind

2092
01:42:47,520 --> 01:42:50,400
Speaker 1: of showed me he's just not ready yet. He's not

2093
01:42:50,560 --> 01:42:54,120
Speaker 1: ready for it. He's not ready to diagnose defenses, he's

2094
01:42:54,160 --> 01:42:56,120
Speaker 1: not ready to make checks at the line pre snap.

2095
01:42:56,720 --> 01:42:59,679
Speaker 1: I think he'll get there in time, But with the time,

2096
01:42:59,760 --> 01:43:01,760
Speaker 1: can strengths that are at work here right now? Know

2097
01:43:01,880 --> 01:43:05,560
Speaker 1: when you're thirteen days from this regular season opener, I

2098
01:43:05,880 --> 01:43:08,200
Speaker 1: just don't think he's ready yet for the prime time.

2099
01:43:08,320 --> 01:43:10,240
Speaker 1: It's almost as though he's thinking too much right now

2100
01:43:10,360 --> 01:43:13,280
Speaker 1: and his head swimming a little bit. That's a that's

2101
01:43:13,320 --> 01:43:15,600
Speaker 1: a part of not getting out of the huddle and

2102
01:43:15,760 --> 01:43:18,760
Speaker 1: getting getting out of it late, because that means you're

2103
01:43:18,800 --> 01:43:21,000
Speaker 1: trying to dissect the play call in your mind and

2104
01:43:21,080 --> 01:43:24,760
Speaker 1: then and then you talking about it to his translation

2105
01:43:24,840 --> 01:43:27,280
Speaker 1: in his head right right, And and the fact that

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Speaker 1: that's taking time rather than just being a snap decision,

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Speaker 1: that's that's concerning. And then with what Greg Kosell talked

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Speaker 1: with us about, I mean, the whole idea that and

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01:43:35,800 --> 01:43:38,479
Speaker 1: maybe the stems from that problem as well, him swimming

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01:43:38,479 --> 01:43:41,760
Speaker 1: in his mind a little bit that the drops that

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Speaker 1: he was having doesn't line up with the routes that

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Speaker 1: were being run, and all of those things are have

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01:43:47,160 --> 01:43:49,439
Speaker 1: to be considered. And I don't know how you can

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01:43:49,520 --> 01:43:52,200
Speaker 1: put that out there against the Ravens first week, especially

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01:43:52,200 --> 01:43:55,280
Speaker 1: when you've got Peterman playing within the offense confidently as

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01:43:55,360 --> 01:43:57,160
Speaker 1: he has been the pastor right. And and the other

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01:43:57,280 --> 01:43:59,920
Speaker 1: thing with Alan too is as the game went on,

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01:44:00,840 --> 01:44:04,040
Speaker 1: then he stopped trusting what he was seeing. Now he's

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01:44:04,080 --> 01:44:07,240
Speaker 1: holding the ball too long. And I was of the

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01:44:07,320 --> 01:44:10,519
Speaker 1: opinion that the last two sacks are probably on him

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01:44:10,720 --> 01:44:14,360
Speaker 1: for holding them too long. Um, you know, especially the

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01:44:14,760 --> 01:44:17,439
Speaker 1: last two. So you know, and all of that adds

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01:44:17,520 --> 01:44:20,960
Speaker 1: up to not quite ready yet. And so for me,

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01:44:21,960 --> 01:44:24,640
Speaker 1: Peterman's the choice here, at least at the start of

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01:44:24,720 --> 01:44:27,920
Speaker 1: the sea. I'm gonna tell you to get there. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And I told you in the spring, I said, if

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Speaker 1: Alan's not ready, it's gonna be Peterman. I said, if

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Speaker 1: Allan's not ready, it's gonna be Peterman. What about the

2129
01:44:33,760 --> 01:44:40,040
Speaker 1: offensive line, it's a problem, Well, yeah, and would you

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01:44:40,160 --> 01:44:41,960
Speaker 1: do it in the third preseason game the one where

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01:44:41,960 --> 01:44:43,240
Speaker 1: you're trying to get all your ducks in a row.

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01:44:43,280 --> 01:44:44,880
Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe you're trying to cut it too

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01:44:44,920 --> 01:44:48,439
Speaker 1: fine to find these If then answers, you know, I

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01:44:49,080 --> 01:44:51,960
Speaker 1: would have just left it alone. And if you're really

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01:44:52,280 --> 01:44:54,040
Speaker 1: the only reason I would have made a change would

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01:44:54,040 --> 01:44:55,920
Speaker 1: have been for performance sake, or if I feel my

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01:44:56,000 --> 01:44:59,080
Speaker 1: quarterback's gonna get killed. And quite frankly, that's why I

2138
01:44:59,120 --> 01:45:02,080
Speaker 1: thought that was happening. Yeah, me too. And that's why

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01:45:02,120 --> 01:45:04,360
Speaker 1: I even followed up with coach after the game, because

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01:45:04,360 --> 01:45:05,720
Speaker 1: I asked him, you know, what were you looking for

2141
01:45:05,840 --> 01:45:08,200
Speaker 1: with all that shuffling in there, And then he said, well,

2142
01:45:08,240 --> 01:45:10,320
Speaker 1: we kind of thought about doing this going in, you know,

2143
01:45:10,439 --> 01:45:12,240
Speaker 1: try to prepare ourselves in the event of an injury

2144
01:45:12,280 --> 01:45:13,800
Speaker 1: in a game. Who goes where? And this, that and

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01:45:13,880 --> 01:45:16,160
Speaker 1: the other, And so I said, so it was not

2146
01:45:16,400 --> 01:45:19,640
Speaker 1: performance related and he said, nope, not performance related. So

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01:45:19,840 --> 01:45:22,040
Speaker 1: I was a little surprised by that, because I would

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01:45:22,080 --> 01:45:24,840
Speaker 1: have just left it alone or made a change to

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01:45:25,000 --> 01:45:29,160
Speaker 1: improve the situation, not to try to see what combinations

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01:45:29,240 --> 01:45:30,880
Speaker 1: might work in the event of an injury come the

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01:45:30,960 --> 01:45:33,160
Speaker 1: regular season. So I was I was a little taken

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01:45:33,240 --> 01:45:36,120
Speaker 1: by that, or perhaps let me put on my tinfoil

2153
01:45:36,200 --> 01:45:38,120
Speaker 1: hat here. Look for this theory behind all of it.

2154
01:45:38,640 --> 01:45:42,120
Speaker 1: Maybe he wanted to make it as difficult as possible

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01:45:42,120 --> 01:45:44,720
Speaker 1: for Josh Hellen crisis situation. Yes, see how we handled it.

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01:45:45,600 --> 01:45:48,040
Speaker 1: You're playing you're playing with fire there, though, I think

2157
01:45:48,320 --> 01:45:50,960
Speaker 1: a certain degree I agree, I'm just giving up food

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01:45:51,000 --> 01:45:53,720
Speaker 1: for thought, right, And if your effort all along here

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01:45:53,920 --> 01:45:57,519
Speaker 1: has been to bring him along steadily, you know, and

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01:45:57,800 --> 01:46:00,320
Speaker 1: and yes, you want to test him here, you want

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01:46:00,320 --> 01:46:02,519
Speaker 1: to test him there, But you're already going against the

2162
01:46:02,560 --> 01:46:05,600
Speaker 1: Cincinnati front that was pretty darn good last year and

2163
01:46:05,720 --> 01:46:07,680
Speaker 1: looks like they're gonna be pretty darn good again this year.

2164
01:46:08,680 --> 01:46:12,519
Speaker 1: I think that's challenge enough, right. I mean, for me,

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01:46:12,640 --> 01:46:14,400
Speaker 1: it is how much you want to put on your

2166
01:46:14,439 --> 01:46:18,559
Speaker 1: kids played? I mean, he's already trying to dissect voluminous playbook,

2167
01:46:18,720 --> 01:46:21,840
Speaker 1: still trying to figure out defense is pre snap and

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01:46:22,000 --> 01:46:25,240
Speaker 1: all that. I I don't know, but it was evident

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01:46:25,320 --> 01:46:27,599
Speaker 1: to me that he's he's not quite there yet. He's

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Speaker 1: not ready. Chris Brown, Bills Insider, Buffalo bills dot Com.

2171
01:46:30,160 --> 01:46:31,880
Speaker 1: So you came out here today ready to tell us

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01:46:31,960 --> 01:46:34,760
Speaker 1: that you believe Peter min should start September nine. Well,

2173
01:46:34,800 --> 01:46:39,240
Speaker 1: for a host of reasons. Okay, number one, he's been

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01:46:39,280 --> 01:46:42,880
Speaker 1: the most accurate quarterback. It's not even close through the

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01:46:42,920 --> 01:46:45,479
Speaker 1: course of the three preseason games. Three. Yeah, through the

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01:46:45,560 --> 01:46:48,599
Speaker 1: course of the three preseason games, through practices. I mean,

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01:46:48,920 --> 01:46:51,439
Speaker 1: and you don't even have to watch practice. Just look

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01:46:51,479 --> 01:46:54,080
Speaker 1: at the game stats. I mean, eighty percent completion rate

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01:46:54,680 --> 01:46:56,840
Speaker 1: is pretty darn impressive. And people say, ah, you got

2180
01:46:56,880 --> 01:46:58,400
Speaker 1: a lot of time with the twos and the threes.

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01:46:58,680 --> 01:47:01,200
Speaker 1: The guy was nine of ten the first unit. And

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01:47:01,720 --> 01:47:04,800
Speaker 1: here's the most important part. He made the offensive line

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01:47:04,840 --> 01:47:07,640
Speaker 1: look pretty darn good because he's a rhythm passer. He

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01:47:07,800 --> 01:47:11,040
Speaker 1: gets it out fast. He will help what's wrong with

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01:47:11,160 --> 01:47:13,720
Speaker 1: this offensive line just by virtue of the type of

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01:47:13,840 --> 01:47:16,920
Speaker 1: player that he is. You know, backfoot goes in the

2187
01:47:17,000 --> 01:47:18,920
Speaker 1: ground at the top of the drop, bang, the ball

2188
01:47:19,040 --> 01:47:21,120
Speaker 1: is out. That's going to help the guys up front

2189
01:47:21,680 --> 01:47:24,360
Speaker 1: kind of get their wits about him, get organized, and

2190
01:47:24,479 --> 01:47:27,720
Speaker 1: hopefully eventually kind of gel as the weeks go on.

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01:47:27,880 --> 01:47:30,160
Speaker 1: I mean, you're gonna be playing a Minnesota defense that's

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01:47:30,200 --> 01:47:31,840
Speaker 1: pretty good. In the first month of the season. You're

2193
01:47:31,880 --> 01:47:34,360
Speaker 1: playing Baltimore, which, yes, is not the same defense, but

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01:47:34,479 --> 01:47:39,120
Speaker 1: still pretty good and Chargers defense. Do we all remember

2195
01:47:39,200 --> 01:47:42,519
Speaker 1: Melvin Ingram and Joey Bosa from last year? Hello, So

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01:47:43,360 --> 01:47:45,840
Speaker 1: get the guy that gets the ball out and put

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01:47:45,920 --> 01:47:48,479
Speaker 1: him back there. And here's the other thing too, Murph.

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01:47:49,280 --> 01:47:51,479
Speaker 1: He's not only accurate, and I asked coach about this

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01:47:51,600 --> 01:47:56,120
Speaker 1: last night too, his ball placement is exceptional. I mean

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01:47:56,320 --> 01:47:59,000
Speaker 1: where he puts the it's not just on the receiver,

2201
01:47:59,160 --> 01:48:02,519
Speaker 1: but where on receiver it's outside shoulder on an out

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01:48:02,600 --> 01:48:05,240
Speaker 1: route where the defender has to go through the player

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01:48:05,479 --> 01:48:07,320
Speaker 1: to make a play on the ball. So it's either

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01:48:07,400 --> 01:48:09,599
Speaker 1: a completed pass or it's a penalty on the dB

2205
01:48:10,800 --> 01:48:14,200
Speaker 1: run after catch, enabling his receiving targets to do that

2206
01:48:14,479 --> 01:48:18,360
Speaker 1: that was sorely absent in Tyrod Taylor's game. So to me,

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01:48:19,320 --> 01:48:21,720
Speaker 1: there are a number of reasons here why I think

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01:48:21,800 --> 01:48:24,479
Speaker 1: you turn to Peterman here at the beginning of the season,

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01:48:25,080 --> 01:48:27,760
Speaker 1: see how Josh comes along, and then if you have

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01:48:27,920 --> 01:48:29,760
Speaker 1: to make a change later on in the year, because

2211
01:48:29,840 --> 01:48:33,040
Speaker 1: Allen is on the come, he's ready to go, Well,

2212
01:48:33,080 --> 01:48:34,680
Speaker 1: then you cross that bridge when you get to And

2213
01:48:34,800 --> 01:48:39,360
Speaker 1: he's also quite possibly a perfect guy to be the

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01:48:39,479 --> 01:48:42,880
Speaker 1: bridge towards your rookie quarterback. Whenever it is you decide

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01:48:42,880 --> 01:48:45,280
Speaker 1: to put him out there, because while there are there

2216
01:48:45,439 --> 01:48:47,200
Speaker 1: is a lot to like, and it'll keep you afloat

2217
01:48:47,360 --> 01:48:49,439
Speaker 1: and gets the ball out quickly, stays within the offense,

2218
01:48:49,520 --> 01:48:52,200
Speaker 1: going to work his butt off, I mean, and all

2219
01:48:52,240 --> 01:48:55,960
Speaker 1: of that is there, but there's also things that aren't

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01:48:55,960 --> 01:48:59,439
Speaker 1: there that are glaring deficiencies, which is where Josh Allen

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01:48:59,479 --> 01:49:01,600
Speaker 1: comes into way, and so there's not going to be

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01:49:01,720 --> 01:49:05,000
Speaker 1: the overwhelming threat that he's gonna Trevor simeon this thing

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01:49:05,120 --> 01:49:08,120
Speaker 1: to Paxton Lynch at Denver. I mean, eventually, this is

2224
01:49:08,200 --> 01:49:10,680
Speaker 1: going to be a situation where Josh Allen comes to

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01:49:10,760 --> 01:49:12,640
Speaker 1: see the light of day. And it's probably going to

2226
01:49:12,720 --> 01:49:15,160
Speaker 1: happen at some point this season. Who knows when it

2227
01:49:15,240 --> 01:49:17,519
Speaker 1: will be, Maybe it's past the first half of the season.

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01:49:17,840 --> 01:49:22,599
Speaker 1: But Nathan Peterman has done enough and he has won

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01:49:22,840 --> 01:49:26,719
Speaker 1: the war, so to speak, of these three quarterbacks, hasn't

2230
01:49:26,760 --> 01:49:30,120
Speaker 1: gotten injured like AJ McCarron did, and didn't blink against

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01:49:30,120 --> 01:49:32,479
Speaker 1: the Browns like AJ McCarron did. I mean, these are

2232
01:49:32,560 --> 01:49:35,080
Speaker 1: all factors working in his favor. But at the end

2233
01:49:35,120 --> 01:49:37,479
Speaker 1: of the day, he's not forever and the Bills know that,

2234
01:49:37,680 --> 01:49:40,640
Speaker 1: and they understand that he does have his deficiency right

2235
01:49:40,680 --> 01:49:43,639
Speaker 1: now going into the season, you just want this offense

2236
01:49:43,720 --> 01:49:45,880
Speaker 1: to be functional. Sure, I mean it was it was,

2237
01:49:46,080 --> 01:49:49,280
Speaker 1: it was not functional last night. I think the run

2238
01:49:49,400 --> 01:49:53,280
Speaker 1: game was okay with Murphy. It'll probably be better with McCoy.

2239
01:49:53,800 --> 01:49:55,519
Speaker 1: So you know, you can look to that and say,

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01:49:55,560 --> 01:49:58,000
Speaker 1: all right, Dawkins is back at left tackle for this

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01:49:58,240 --> 01:50:01,559
Speaker 1: regular season opener. That he helps a lot. So there

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01:50:01,720 --> 01:50:04,240
Speaker 1: there are some other factors at work here too that

2243
01:50:04,320 --> 01:50:07,240
Speaker 1: will make the offense better come week one. But if

2244
01:50:07,280 --> 01:50:10,320
Speaker 1: you want to be functional, you know, and ready to play,

2245
01:50:10,479 --> 01:50:12,120
Speaker 1: I think you have to go to Peterman here and

2246
01:50:12,120 --> 01:50:14,120
Speaker 1: weech Sean McDermot ready to make that move. Will he

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01:50:14,120 --> 01:50:17,240
Speaker 1: announce it today? I don't know. I wouldn't put it

2248
01:50:17,280 --> 01:50:19,960
Speaker 1: past it. I think it's possible. I think it's possible.

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01:50:21,760 --> 01:50:24,200
Speaker 1: I mean, I think it's clear. And here's the other

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01:50:24,280 --> 01:50:28,840
Speaker 1: thing that's impressive about Peterman two. His completion percentage far

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01:50:29,000 --> 01:50:31,040
Speaker 1: better than the other two by leaps and bounds. I

2252
01:50:31,080 --> 01:50:35,439
Speaker 1: mean we're talking twenty thirty percent here. He's also doubled

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01:50:35,479 --> 01:50:38,160
Speaker 1: them in yards per attempt. His yards protempt is ten

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01:50:38,200 --> 01:50:41,320
Speaker 1: and a half. I mean Alan is four point eight

2255
01:50:41,400 --> 01:50:45,719
Speaker 1: who's the deep ball thrower here? It's been Peterman against

2256
01:50:45,760 --> 01:50:51,080
Speaker 1: everybody's expectations. I think it's very clear. I think it

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01:50:51,400 --> 01:50:54,040
Speaker 1: came into very clear focus last night. I think the

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01:50:54,120 --> 01:50:57,120
Speaker 1: tape will bear that out. And I think and you know,

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01:50:57,280 --> 01:50:59,320
Speaker 1: and in the last two weeks, every time we've asked

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01:50:59,360 --> 01:51:02,719
Speaker 1: coach about Piterman, you know, and he's been very measured

2261
01:51:03,200 --> 01:51:06,280
Speaker 1: in his answers about all the quarterbacks, very measured. But

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01:51:06,560 --> 01:51:09,320
Speaker 1: I thought over the last two weeks it's been kind

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01:51:09,360 --> 01:51:13,120
Speaker 1: of tilting that way because of the things that we've

2264
01:51:13,160 --> 01:51:15,519
Speaker 1: talked about who is the most consistent guy. In the spring,

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01:51:15,600 --> 01:51:17,880
Speaker 1: it was Peterman, and here we are again he's the

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01:51:18,000 --> 01:51:20,720
Speaker 1: most consistent guy. And I think Coach really right now

2267
01:51:21,120 --> 01:51:23,680
Speaker 1: just wants an offense that's functional and can stay on

2268
01:51:23,760 --> 01:51:25,920
Speaker 1: the field and move the sticks, because if it all

2269
01:51:26,040 --> 01:51:29,080
Speaker 1: falls on the defense and you're scoring ten points a game,

2270
01:51:29,160 --> 01:51:30,880
Speaker 1: it's going to be a rough start to the season.

2271
01:51:30,960 --> 01:51:32,800
Speaker 1: Let me get the short answer to our Twitter pole

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01:51:32,800 --> 01:51:34,719
Speaker 1: from you, Chris and them. We'll work in some phone calls.

2273
01:51:35,040 --> 01:51:36,600
Speaker 1: So with all that being said, and I hear what

2274
01:51:36,640 --> 01:51:39,599
Speaker 1: you're saying, are you comfortable with the Bill's quarterback situation?

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01:51:41,160 --> 01:51:43,720
Speaker 1: Comfortable if it is, in fact Peterman starting September ninth.

2276
01:51:44,200 --> 01:51:47,280
Speaker 1: Because this is me talking now, Yeah, this is that

2277
01:51:47,360 --> 01:51:49,920
Speaker 1: Twitter pole stuff. He puts a cap on how good

2278
01:51:49,960 --> 01:51:52,280
Speaker 1: this offense could be. Yeah, he does. There's different levels

2279
01:51:52,320 --> 01:51:55,479
Speaker 1: of comfort. Yeah, what are we getting at with comfort? Here?

2280
01:51:55,680 --> 01:51:58,360
Speaker 1: Am I on my bark lounge falling asleep? You know,

2281
01:51:58,439 --> 01:52:02,040
Speaker 1: after a nice meal or don't mince words? Okay? Are

2282
01:52:02,120 --> 01:52:03,920
Speaker 1: you on the cot at Saint John Fisher College? I

2283
01:52:03,960 --> 01:52:07,240
Speaker 1: would say I would say I'm I'm most comfortable in

2284
01:52:07,400 --> 01:52:12,439
Speaker 1: week one with Peterman at quarterback because that's what is

2285
01:52:12,439 --> 01:52:14,720
Speaker 1: going to give you the best chance to win right now.

2286
01:52:15,479 --> 01:52:16,920
Speaker 1: Are you going to set the world on fire and

2287
01:52:16,960 --> 01:52:20,360
Speaker 1: score thirty five points a game? Hell no? But you

2288
01:52:20,439 --> 01:52:22,759
Speaker 1: know with Peterman at least you're gonna keep your offense

2289
01:52:22,840 --> 01:52:27,600
Speaker 1: on the field. You're gonna stage some scoring drives. You know.

2290
01:52:27,880 --> 01:52:29,559
Speaker 1: I'm not saying he's not going to make a mistake.

2291
01:52:29,640 --> 01:52:32,120
Speaker 1: Nobody's perfect in this league, that the opposition is too

2292
01:52:32,200 --> 01:52:34,360
Speaker 1: good to be perfect. But I think you're gonna have

2293
01:52:34,439 --> 01:52:38,759
Speaker 1: a high rate of completion. You're not gonna worry about

2294
01:52:38,800 --> 01:52:43,840
Speaker 1: your offensive line, you know, plugging holes in the dike here, Like,

2295
01:52:43,960 --> 01:52:46,439
Speaker 1: what do we got going on. You know, he'll make

2296
01:52:46,520 --> 01:52:48,880
Speaker 1: that offense functional and right now that's what you need.

2297
01:52:49,000 --> 01:52:54,559
Speaker 1: You need functionality in your passing game to support LaShaun McCoy,

2298
01:52:54,800 --> 01:52:57,400
Speaker 1: and right now, Peterman's the best answer to give that

2299
01:52:57,479 --> 01:52:58,920
Speaker 1: to you. One more question for you, and this goes

2300
01:52:58,960 --> 01:53:01,320
Speaker 1: to a thing Joe brought up. What becomes of a

2301
01:53:01,479 --> 01:53:04,519
Speaker 1: j mccaron Then I say he's on the roster. I

2302
01:53:04,600 --> 01:53:07,400
Speaker 1: think I think I think they're gonna keep three. I

2303
01:53:07,439 --> 01:53:09,160
Speaker 1: don't know why. I think that that's a little bit

2304
01:53:09,240 --> 01:53:11,599
Speaker 1: too wealthy for me. Well at that position, I think

2305
01:53:11,600 --> 01:53:13,559
Speaker 1: they're gonna keep three. I don't know why I feel

2306
01:53:13,600 --> 01:53:15,320
Speaker 1: that way. There's just something in my head that says

2307
01:53:15,320 --> 01:53:18,800
Speaker 1: they're gonna keep three. Um. I'm not saying that's gonna

2308
01:53:18,840 --> 01:53:21,640
Speaker 1: be the case for seventeen weeks, you know, but I

2309
01:53:21,760 --> 01:53:25,120
Speaker 1: think for now, I think I think they're gonna keep three.

2310
01:53:25,240 --> 01:53:27,879
Speaker 1: I don't don't etch it in stone for week sixteen

2311
01:53:27,920 --> 01:53:31,200
Speaker 1: and seventeen or week twelve or thirteen, because when Alan

2312
01:53:31,280 --> 01:53:34,519
Speaker 1: gets it, as we've discussed, I think that I think

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01:53:34,560 --> 01:53:38,439
Speaker 1: that makes whoever the the third guy is expendable, Um,

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01:53:39,000 --> 01:53:41,080
Speaker 1: you know, and then maybe you do something there. But

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01:53:41,360 --> 01:53:44,000
Speaker 1: I think I think three you're probably there at the

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01:53:44,040 --> 01:53:48,680
Speaker 1: start of the year. I'm gonna guarantee its us Emmanuel

2317
01:53:48,760 --> 01:53:52,519
Speaker 1: in Hawaii. You go ahead, Emanual, you're on the air. Hey, Chris,

2318
01:53:52,680 --> 01:53:57,000
Speaker 1: you're a genius. I love every whoa can I record

2319
01:53:57,040 --> 01:54:00,240
Speaker 1: that and play it for my wife. That'll ever be

2320
01:54:00,280 --> 01:54:04,679
Speaker 1: said in my house? Okay, sorry, and I totally agree.

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01:54:05,040 --> 01:54:07,120
Speaker 1: And I have nothing else to say about the quarterback

2322
01:54:07,160 --> 01:54:09,080
Speaker 1: other than if y'all want to know what Peterman is about.

2323
01:54:09,200 --> 01:54:11,720
Speaker 1: He beat Watson at Clemson. Just turned that game on

2324
01:54:11,840 --> 01:54:15,320
Speaker 1: on YouTube. He had excellent game. About the offensive line,

2325
01:54:15,320 --> 01:54:17,559
Speaker 1: I think the Bills need to learn and learn quickly

2326
01:54:17,640 --> 01:54:20,200
Speaker 1: that they need to go with the non tickets, sell picks,

2327
01:54:20,240 --> 01:54:22,840
Speaker 1: and start building that offensive line or we're gonna be

2328
01:54:22,880 --> 01:54:25,240
Speaker 1: in trouble for years to come. I think if Sean

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01:54:25,320 --> 01:54:28,360
Speaker 1: McDermott don't start Peterman, he's gonna lose the locker room

2330
01:54:28,439 --> 01:54:32,080
Speaker 1: because the best guy will play. Peterman has been the

2331
01:54:32,160 --> 01:54:35,600
Speaker 1: best guy and comments on three players. I think that

2332
01:54:35,760 --> 01:54:40,360
Speaker 1: Murphy should be the second backup to Lashaw McCoy. Kevin

2333
01:54:40,440 --> 01:54:44,320
Speaker 1: Benjamin has never been a number one receiver and that's

2334
01:54:44,360 --> 01:54:47,720
Speaker 1: why Caroline up thought he was expendable and Curry Coleman,

2335
01:54:47,840 --> 01:54:50,240
Speaker 1: and my opinions is going to sound bad. Isn't smart

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01:54:50,320 --> 01:54:52,640
Speaker 1: enough to play on his team? He saw the block

2337
01:54:52,680 --> 01:54:54,760
Speaker 1: in the back, that's right, you see her one on one.

2338
01:54:55,040 --> 01:54:58,760
Speaker 1: And also for y'all to comment on right now, I'm

2339
01:54:58,800 --> 01:55:00,960
Speaker 1: a Bill's lover, but I I think they've the least

2340
01:55:01,200 --> 01:55:04,680
Speaker 1: talented team in the league. Well, he just kind of

2341
01:55:04,760 --> 01:55:07,560
Speaker 1: ran the gamut of the offense there. We didn't see,

2342
01:55:07,640 --> 01:55:10,400
Speaker 1: we didn't hear anything about tight end there. But but

2343
01:55:11,320 --> 01:55:14,600
Speaker 1: to the to the quarterback point and everything along those lines,

2344
01:55:14,840 --> 01:55:17,200
Speaker 1: I think they're getting into a precious spot here. I

2345
01:55:17,200 --> 01:55:20,040
Speaker 1: don't know about you guys, where they almost it's almost

2346
01:55:20,040 --> 01:55:22,600
Speaker 1: as though they have to make a decision because you're

2347
01:55:22,640 --> 01:55:26,920
Speaker 1: within that two week window. It's not exactly a ton

2348
01:55:27,000 --> 01:55:29,920
Speaker 1: of time anymore to where you can just kind of

2349
01:55:30,320 --> 01:55:33,560
Speaker 1: you just limp into the decision. You have to at

2350
01:55:33,640 --> 01:55:36,680
Speaker 1: some point game plan with that specific quarterback. You have

2351
01:55:36,840 --> 01:55:39,560
Speaker 1: to give that guy all the reps he can handle

2352
01:55:39,600 --> 01:55:41,760
Speaker 1: and let him let him know. Which is why I

2353
01:55:41,840 --> 01:55:44,320
Speaker 1: think I'm not putting it out of the realm of

2354
01:55:44,360 --> 01:55:48,640
Speaker 1: possibilities that they name Peterman the guy today. I'm really

2355
01:55:48,680 --> 01:55:53,560
Speaker 1: happen it could happen because I think last night, yesterday's game,

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01:55:54,200 --> 01:55:56,840
Speaker 1: maybe more than any other broad clarity, Yes, the most

2357
01:55:56,960 --> 01:55:59,840
Speaker 1: clarity to the situation. I think that's what happened there,

2358
01:55:59,880 --> 01:56:02,840
Speaker 1: and that's the critical game too. It's and I mean

2359
01:56:02,920 --> 01:56:04,960
Speaker 1: he brought up a host of other things there, Murphy,

2360
01:56:05,000 --> 01:56:08,840
Speaker 1: I mean Corey Coleman. I'm worried about him because, and

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01:56:09,760 --> 01:56:13,240
Speaker 1: in all fairness too, what was being asked of him

2362
01:56:13,360 --> 01:56:16,920
Speaker 1: is not easy for any receiver, no matter they're football IQ,

2363
01:56:17,240 --> 01:56:19,920
Speaker 1: because to come in, you know, a week into camp,

2364
01:56:20,480 --> 01:56:22,560
Speaker 1: try to master a brand new offense that you've never

2365
01:56:22,640 --> 01:56:24,800
Speaker 1: seen before after operating in a different one for the

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01:56:24,880 --> 01:56:28,600
Speaker 1: past two years. That's tough enough, not to mention getting

2367
01:56:28,680 --> 01:56:31,400
Speaker 1: used to all three new quarterbacks that are throwing to you.

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01:56:31,840 --> 01:56:34,360
Speaker 1: What was evident to me, though, was the coaching staff

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01:56:34,480 --> 01:56:39,080
Speaker 1: was trying to push him forward in this offense with

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01:56:39,200 --> 01:56:42,320
Speaker 1: all of the opportunities. They were giving him more first

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01:56:42,320 --> 01:56:45,720
Speaker 1: team reps in practice last week. You know, when he

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01:56:45,800 --> 01:56:48,440
Speaker 1: gets out there with the ones yesterday for a period,

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01:56:49,200 --> 01:56:53,160
Speaker 1: they're trying to say, go show us, come on, go

2374
01:56:53,320 --> 01:56:56,720
Speaker 1: show us, make it happen, Make it happen. And I

2375
01:56:56,960 --> 01:56:59,800
Speaker 1: don't know that he's done enough. And it's a tight

2376
01:57:00,080 --> 01:57:02,240
Speaker 1: race there at the back end of the receiver position.

2377
01:57:02,920 --> 01:57:06,320
Speaker 1: And you know, I know the caller, Emmanuel was calling

2378
01:57:06,360 --> 01:57:09,400
Speaker 1: it an intelligence issue. I'm just worried that it's too

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01:57:09,520 --> 01:57:13,240
Speaker 1: much in too short a period of time for Coleman's

2380
01:57:13,280 --> 01:57:17,000
Speaker 1: athletic ability to manifest itself in this passing game. And

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01:57:17,120 --> 01:57:20,600
Speaker 1: so he could be a victim of time more than

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01:57:20,680 --> 01:57:25,040
Speaker 1: anything else, because from what I've observed thus far, Corey

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01:57:25,120 --> 01:57:29,240
Speaker 1: Coleman is a physical learner, not a visual learner. And

2384
01:57:29,400 --> 01:57:32,280
Speaker 1: what that means is he has to physically rep it

2385
01:57:32,480 --> 01:57:35,200
Speaker 1: out on the field to get it in his head.

2386
01:57:35,680 --> 01:57:38,320
Speaker 1: He can't see it on a board and then apply

2387
01:57:38,480 --> 01:57:40,960
Speaker 1: it on the field immediately. He has to physically rep

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01:57:41,080 --> 01:57:43,840
Speaker 1: the thing to get it down in his brain. And

2389
01:57:44,000 --> 01:57:46,760
Speaker 1: again without a lot of time on the field in

2390
01:57:46,840 --> 01:57:50,080
Speaker 1: this offense, I think it's hurting him and eventually, and

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01:57:50,320 --> 01:57:52,280
Speaker 1: ultimately it could hurt him in terms of getting a

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01:57:52,280 --> 01:57:55,560
Speaker 1: spot on this team. Three catches for seven yards yeah,

2393
01:57:55,920 --> 01:57:58,400
Speaker 1: two zero yesterday and a lot of chances, a lot

2394
01:57:58,480 --> 01:58:01,440
Speaker 1: of playing time time just in collar two more Mike

2395
01:58:01,520 --> 01:58:05,040
Speaker 1: and New Jersey. Go ahead, Mike, you're on the air, Hi, guys,

2396
01:58:05,080 --> 01:58:09,000
Speaker 1: how are you today? Hey? I just wanted to say,

2397
01:58:09,080 --> 01:58:11,720
Speaker 1: I think I would still like to see Josh Allen

2398
01:58:11,840 --> 01:58:15,760
Speaker 1: as our day one starter. The reason being is that

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01:58:16,640 --> 01:58:19,440
Speaker 1: you know Petermany have you know first game we you

2400
01:58:19,520 --> 01:58:21,640
Speaker 1: know he had a good game with against the first

2401
01:58:22,240 --> 01:58:25,480
Speaker 1: m But the problem is that you know he had

2402
01:58:25,480 --> 01:58:28,280
Speaker 1: a lot of throws were similar to what he last year.

2403
01:58:28,360 --> 01:58:31,280
Speaker 1: He had like five interception in a half. So I

2404
01:58:31,640 --> 01:58:33,840
Speaker 1: don't think if we get behind like Simon ten points

2405
01:58:33,840 --> 01:58:35,720
Speaker 1: out on the hears the guy to ever bring us back.

2406
01:58:36,480 --> 01:58:39,120
Speaker 1: Josh Allen, I know he had a rough game yesterday,

2407
01:58:39,480 --> 01:58:41,400
Speaker 1: but I think we didn't plan anything. We didn't have

2408
01:58:41,440 --> 01:58:44,400
Speaker 1: any game plan. Has a receiver drop a couple of balls.

2409
01:58:44,480 --> 01:58:47,560
Speaker 1: But if you noticed when we had run up the middle,

2410
01:58:47,680 --> 01:58:49,280
Speaker 1: we had a really good running game. Here say we

2411
01:58:49,320 --> 01:58:51,560
Speaker 1: had a couple of good runs. So you know, if

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01:58:51,600 --> 01:58:54,160
Speaker 1: we get into a real game and we feel like, okay,

2413
01:58:54,320 --> 01:58:56,080
Speaker 1: you know the run game is getting better, then we

2414
01:58:56,120 --> 01:58:57,920
Speaker 1: can run it like ten times in a row. That

2415
01:58:58,120 --> 01:59:00,920
Speaker 1: that that can help. They can only help Josh Okay,

2416
01:59:01,160 --> 01:59:04,360
Speaker 1: thanks Mike. I want to flip his argument around. The

2417
01:59:04,520 --> 01:59:09,800
Speaker 1: defense isn't scheming either the preseason, I mean, and Josh

2418
01:59:09,920 --> 01:59:14,560
Speaker 1: Allen after the game yesterday, Josh Allen said flat out

2419
01:59:15,240 --> 01:59:18,040
Speaker 1: the speed of the game was an eye opener for me,

2420
01:59:19,320 --> 01:59:22,320
Speaker 1: an eye opener. He said, So, here's a guy that

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01:59:22,480 --> 01:59:24,520
Speaker 1: moved up to the ones yesterday and in the locker

2422
01:59:24,600 --> 01:59:26,520
Speaker 1: room said the speed of the game was eye opening.

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01:59:27,640 --> 01:59:31,320
Speaker 1: I think, at first, blush, it's hard not to say

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01:59:32,440 --> 01:59:34,880
Speaker 1: it's a little too much for him. Right now, it's

2425
01:59:35,000 --> 01:59:39,960
Speaker 1: looking fast and the Bengals aren't even scheming the bills yet.

2426
01:59:40,600 --> 01:59:43,440
Speaker 1: Go to the regular season. Watch how much faster it

2427
01:59:43,520 --> 01:59:47,760
Speaker 1: gets then, and the defensive looks are going to be

2428
01:59:48,600 --> 01:59:51,840
Speaker 1: ten times more complex, and they're going to be coming

2429
01:59:51,880 --> 01:59:54,560
Speaker 1: at him like a bad out of Haities with blitz

2430
01:59:54,640 --> 01:59:57,040
Speaker 1: packages and stuff to throw him off all the more

2431
01:59:57,080 --> 02:00:00,280
Speaker 1: and mess up his internal clock. I think the to

2432
02:00:00,360 --> 02:00:04,120
Speaker 1: go here is you go with Peterman and you make

2433
02:00:04,160 --> 02:00:06,840
Speaker 1: your offense functional out of the gate, and you hope

2434
02:00:06,880 --> 02:00:09,000
Speaker 1: it's enough to get you some wins early and the

2435
02:00:09,160 --> 02:00:11,760
Speaker 1: defense keeps you in games, and maybe you're winning those

2436
02:00:11,840 --> 02:00:15,600
Speaker 1: sixteen thirteen games twenty to sixteen games, you know, and

2437
02:00:15,840 --> 02:00:17,360
Speaker 1: you can get a couple of wins here earlier in

2438
02:00:17,400 --> 02:00:20,720
Speaker 1: the season, and then you know, hopefully Josh Allen gained

2439
02:00:20,760 --> 02:00:23,320
Speaker 1: some traction through the practice setting. You know, and come

2440
02:00:23,400 --> 02:00:26,920
Speaker 1: mid season or wherever they feel it's right, turn the

2441
02:00:27,000 --> 02:00:30,200
Speaker 1: page and just go that way. But you gotta go

2442
02:00:30,320 --> 02:00:32,960
Speaker 1: with what's going to make you functional right now and

2443
02:00:33,360 --> 02:00:35,600
Speaker 1: keep the long range in perspective here. You gotta do

2444
02:00:35,640 --> 02:00:38,160
Speaker 1: what's right for week one, two, three, maybe four or five, six.

2445
02:00:38,360 --> 02:00:40,600
Speaker 1: One more call while Chris joins us, Larry and am Hurst.

2446
02:00:40,600 --> 02:00:45,600
Speaker 1: Go ahead, Larry, you're on the air, Larry pay on

2447
02:00:45,680 --> 02:00:49,040
Speaker 1: the phone. How are you doing? Okay? You know that

2448
02:00:49,120 --> 02:00:53,480
Speaker 1: sound well? Yeah? I think late Peterman is head and

2449
02:00:53,480 --> 02:00:56,840
Speaker 1: showed us better than any quarterback on the squad. The

2450
02:00:57,000 --> 02:01:00,200
Speaker 1: Bills kicked Alan and yes, I'd like it. You know,

2451
02:01:00,320 --> 02:01:03,120
Speaker 1: I know they want to want him to play, but

2452
02:01:04,480 --> 02:01:08,160
Speaker 1: you have to realize Peterman was a pretty good quarterback

2453
02:01:08,800 --> 02:01:12,080
Speaker 1: in college. He had some issues that made him fall

2454
02:01:12,920 --> 02:01:17,560
Speaker 1: last year. The timing was not perfect and I put

2455
02:01:17,640 --> 02:01:20,440
Speaker 1: that on the coach when they started against that Yang. Yeah,

2456
02:01:20,440 --> 02:01:23,160
Speaker 1: we don't. The Chargers game is irrelevant, I think, Chris,

2457
02:01:23,240 --> 02:01:25,720
Speaker 1: don't you, And I think that the decision makers here,

2458
02:01:25,760 --> 02:01:28,840
Speaker 1: the Chargers game is probably not even his rebound from

2459
02:01:28,840 --> 02:01:31,480
Speaker 1: the Chargers game, his his The way he handled that

2460
02:01:31,560 --> 02:01:33,560
Speaker 1: game I think means more to them than what went

2461
02:01:33,640 --> 02:01:35,080
Speaker 1: down on the front of that day, I really do

2462
02:01:35,240 --> 02:01:38,560
Speaker 1: right point. My point though, is he is only a

2463
02:01:38,680 --> 02:01:41,600
Speaker 1: second year player. He's not gonna give up that job willingly.

2464
02:01:41,720 --> 02:01:44,480
Speaker 1: I know they want Alan to play, but this guy

2465
02:01:45,120 --> 02:01:48,440
Speaker 1: is Buffalo's best chance. But they need to taylor the

2466
02:01:48,680 --> 02:01:51,919
Speaker 1: offense around them. They have a plug and play offense

2467
02:01:52,520 --> 02:01:56,160
Speaker 1: not geared towards any of the quarterbacks. That's the problem.

2468
02:01:56,400 --> 02:01:57,840
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know if I agree with that.

2469
02:01:58,160 --> 02:02:00,400
Speaker 1: I don't think we have seen what the offense will

2470
02:02:00,400 --> 02:02:02,720
Speaker 1: be just yet. Well, in week one, let's remember what

2471
02:02:02,880 --> 02:02:07,720
Speaker 1: Brian Dable did. How about all those personnel grouping changes, shifts, premo,

2472
02:02:07,960 --> 02:02:11,400
Speaker 1: pre snap motion, all of that stuff in this preseason.

2473
02:02:12,000 --> 02:02:14,520
Speaker 1: They threw the most at Peterman when he was with

2474
02:02:14,640 --> 02:02:18,880
Speaker 1: the ones, and he handled it, and the offense was functional,

2475
02:02:19,360 --> 02:02:21,840
Speaker 1: probably the best it's looked with any of the other

2476
02:02:21,960 --> 02:02:24,600
Speaker 1: quarterbacks and the first unit on the field. I mean,

2477
02:02:24,720 --> 02:02:27,240
Speaker 1: I think we can all agree on that. And to

2478
02:02:27,480 --> 02:02:31,360
Speaker 1: know that Dabele was probably his most complex with the

2479
02:02:31,480 --> 02:02:33,960
Speaker 1: demands that he put on the quarterback in Peterman in

2480
02:02:34,080 --> 02:02:37,120
Speaker 1: Week one, and the offense functioned the best in Week one.

2481
02:02:38,000 --> 02:02:40,800
Speaker 1: I think it's it's game, set match, Yeah, it's clear.

2482
02:02:40,960 --> 02:02:43,440
Speaker 1: It's clear at this point name I've said it before.

2483
02:02:43,640 --> 02:02:47,960
Speaker 1: NP two should be QB one, and it's what is

2484
02:02:48,440 --> 02:02:51,360
Speaker 1: quite evident at this point because Peterman has shown the

2485
02:02:51,440 --> 02:02:55,280
Speaker 1: best throughout the duration of the preseason. He's shown he's

2486
02:02:55,600 --> 02:02:58,000
Speaker 1: made strides at training camp, had a little rough start

2487
02:02:58,040 --> 02:03:01,280
Speaker 1: at training camp, but then he he got better at

2488
02:03:01,360 --> 02:03:04,040
Speaker 1: every single day as it went along. I just think

2489
02:03:04,440 --> 02:03:08,720
Speaker 1: when you are looking to when you need to pull

2490
02:03:08,800 --> 02:03:12,560
Speaker 1: the tab on Josh Allen and figure out when it's

2491
02:03:12,600 --> 02:03:15,320
Speaker 1: the right time to play him, the time is not now.

2492
02:03:15,520 --> 02:03:18,040
Speaker 1: I mean to Chris's point when when he said the

2493
02:03:18,200 --> 02:03:20,040
Speaker 1: game of the speed of the game was eye opening,

2494
02:03:20,120 --> 02:03:22,880
Speaker 1: that's eye opening to me. Another thing that's eye opening

2495
02:03:23,000 --> 02:03:26,280
Speaker 1: is Matthew Fairburn, who works for the Athletic went into

2496
02:03:26,280 --> 02:03:28,040
Speaker 1: the Bengals locker room, talk to some of the defenders,

2497
02:03:28,120 --> 02:03:30,240
Speaker 1: talk to Drake Kirkpatrick, and he asked him what he saw.

2498
02:03:30,320 --> 02:03:33,760
Speaker 1: He's like, I saw a quarterback that stared down his targets. Yeah,

2499
02:03:33,800 --> 02:03:36,400
Speaker 1: and that is something he has to work on as well,

2500
02:03:36,600 --> 02:03:39,760
Speaker 1: especially seeing as how Kirkpatrick also said, hey, I didn't

2501
02:03:39,760 --> 02:03:42,040
Speaker 1: really even look at the playbook much this week, Like

2502
02:03:42,280 --> 02:03:44,280
Speaker 1: we didn't gameplay much at all for the Bills, So

2503
02:03:44,440 --> 02:03:47,240
Speaker 1: that that is all part of the equation to why

2504
02:03:47,440 --> 02:03:49,720
Speaker 1: Peterman is probably the guy. Chris Brown, what's coming up

2505
02:03:49,760 --> 02:03:51,440
Speaker 1: on Buffalo Bills dot com when you go, well, well,

2506
02:03:51,520 --> 02:03:54,000
Speaker 1: just you know, we always recap coaches press conference with

2507
02:03:54,120 --> 02:03:57,400
Speaker 1: our quick Hits Colin which basically just reviews probably the

2508
02:03:57,480 --> 02:03:59,640
Speaker 1: highlights from the press conference, kind of delves into it

2509
02:03:59,640 --> 02:04:02,480
Speaker 1: a little, gets his comments directly, and then you know,

2510
02:04:02,600 --> 02:04:06,320
Speaker 1: after that, who knows, if it's quarterback news, we'll have

2511
02:04:06,400 --> 02:04:08,520
Speaker 1: it covered. You can have a late night Chris Brown

2512
02:04:08,560 --> 02:04:11,160
Speaker 1: Bills inside of Buffalo Bills dot Com. Coach McDermot speaks

2513
02:04:11,160 --> 02:04:13,920
Speaker 1: at four to fifteen this afternoon here and One Bills Drive, Chris,

2514
02:04:14,040 --> 02:04:15,280
Speaker 1: thank you, good to talk with you, good to be

2515
02:04:15,360 --> 02:04:17,400
Speaker 1: with Good to have Chris here. One Bills Live from

2516
02:04:17,440 --> 02:04:33,160
Speaker 1: One Bill's Drive on Buffalo Bills Radio. High formation. Ain't

2517
02:04:33,160 --> 02:04:34,880
Speaker 1: gonna throw it though the pass down the field tipped

2518
02:04:34,880 --> 02:04:37,800
Speaker 1: into the area intercept it picked up by Bush push

2519
02:04:37,880 --> 02:04:40,200
Speaker 1: at the corny of the Bandos cuts back across the field,

2520
02:04:40,400 --> 02:04:42,840
Speaker 1: still on his feet at the thirty f the rc

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02:04:42,920 --> 02:04:45,640
Speaker 1: Siven finally tripped up and run down at the six

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Speaker 1: and naty twenty five yard line. I feel Bush with

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Speaker 1: the advanced alarmed defensive play of the game, advanced alarm

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Speaker 1: theater provider of the Buffalo Bills, Right, feel Bush, I

2527
02:05:00,360 --> 02:05:02,280
Speaker 1: think is gonna be interesting. Joe. I think he's probably

2528
02:05:02,320 --> 02:05:03,920
Speaker 1: gonna make the roster. Oh yeah, Are they going to

2529
02:05:03,960 --> 02:05:05,880
Speaker 1: find a role for him other than just backing up

2530
02:05:05,920 --> 02:05:08,080
Speaker 1: a hide and poier? I think so. It's gonna be

2531
02:05:08,200 --> 02:05:10,880
Speaker 1: matchup specific. But if you've noticed through camp what they've done,

2532
02:05:10,960 --> 02:05:13,840
Speaker 1: they've thrown him in at big nickel. And so when

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02:05:14,000 --> 02:05:16,120
Speaker 1: there's a tight end who's a little bit more athletic

2534
02:05:16,320 --> 02:05:18,440
Speaker 1: or a bigger receiver lining up in the slot, that's

2535
02:05:18,440 --> 02:05:20,400
Speaker 1: when you're gonna see Raphael Bush get out there in

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02:05:20,440 --> 02:05:24,000
Speaker 1: those three safety sets, as opposed to bring out a

2537
02:05:24,040 --> 02:05:26,080
Speaker 1: guy like Taron Johnson who's just a little bit smaller,

2538
02:05:26,160 --> 02:05:31,240
Speaker 1: can't really withstand the physicality that a typing Grenkowski, right exactly,

2539
02:05:31,400 --> 02:05:34,680
Speaker 1: So Bush would be the guy for that, which you know,

2540
02:05:35,000 --> 02:05:38,360
Speaker 1: it's a little bit scary with anybody against Rob Grinkowski,

2541
02:05:38,520 --> 02:05:41,480
Speaker 1: but still, this guy has athleticism he's shown quite a

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02:05:41,520 --> 02:05:44,840
Speaker 1: bit throughout throughout training camp. And yeah, he's firmly on

2543
02:05:44,920 --> 02:05:46,760
Speaker 1: the roster. The only question at safety to me is

2544
02:05:46,760 --> 02:05:48,600
Speaker 1: whether or not they keep Siran Neal, But that's that's

2545
02:05:48,600 --> 02:05:52,440
Speaker 1: for another day. Um the other safety thirty one, Yeah,

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02:05:52,560 --> 02:05:56,120
Speaker 1: marlow On, Yeah, I really liked what he's He's got

2547
02:05:56,160 --> 02:05:59,680
Speaker 1: a lot of athleticism, a lot of athleticism it's got.

2548
02:06:00,520 --> 02:06:03,960
Speaker 1: He's on special teams all over the place. I think

2549
02:06:04,000 --> 02:06:06,080
Speaker 1: he's in and and he used to work for McDermott.

2550
02:06:06,080 --> 02:06:08,520
Speaker 1: He made a team with McDermott before this is new

2551
02:06:08,600 --> 02:06:11,360
Speaker 1: today comes across the wire. Odell Beckham Junior did get

2552
02:06:11,400 --> 02:06:13,680
Speaker 1: a deal with the Giants. The New York Giants and

2553
02:06:13,720 --> 02:06:15,960
Speaker 1: Beckham will agree to a five year, ninety five million

2554
02:06:16,000 --> 02:06:19,480
Speaker 1: dollar contract extension. He gets the highest guarantee ever for

2555
02:06:19,560 --> 02:06:23,440
Speaker 1: a receiver at sixty five million averages twenty million dollars

2556
02:06:23,480 --> 02:06:26,360
Speaker 1: over the first three years, reported by our buddy Kimberly

2557
02:06:26,480 --> 02:06:31,760
Speaker 1: Jones and Ian Rappaport. He surpasses Antonio Antonio brown seventeen

2558
02:06:31,800 --> 02:06:35,160
Speaker 1: million dollars average and surpasses Mike Kevin's fifty five million

2559
02:06:35,240 --> 02:06:38,760
Speaker 1: in total guaranteed money I mean he's qualified to do that.

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02:06:38,960 --> 02:06:40,640
Speaker 1: I think it's just an awful lot of money for

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02:06:40,720 --> 02:06:44,280
Speaker 1: a receiver, especially when you have quarterback questions. With the Giants,

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02:06:44,480 --> 02:06:47,880
Speaker 1: it is, but he is a superstar and they are.

2563
02:06:47,880 --> 02:06:52,440
Speaker 1: It's almost beyond football performance for him, right they he's

2564
02:06:52,800 --> 02:06:54,720
Speaker 1: bigger than life in York and it's tough to be

2565
02:06:55,000 --> 02:06:57,840
Speaker 1: larger than life in New York City yea, But for

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02:06:58,320 --> 02:07:00,360
Speaker 1: him and what the Giants are doing from from a

2567
02:07:00,720 --> 02:07:03,200
Speaker 1: team building perspective, as long as they actually do this

2568
02:07:03,320 --> 02:07:05,560
Speaker 1: thing the right way and take a quarterback at some

2569
02:07:05,720 --> 02:07:07,600
Speaker 1: point in the first round of the draft, which you

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02:07:07,600 --> 02:07:10,360
Speaker 1: would think that they would. They were in position. They

2571
02:07:10,400 --> 02:07:12,600
Speaker 1: were in position, and they said no to that because

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02:07:12,640 --> 02:07:14,480
Speaker 1: they felt like they could win this year. But you

2573
02:07:14,640 --> 02:07:17,400
Speaker 1: think they're going to once they realize that Eli is

2574
02:07:17,440 --> 02:07:20,880
Speaker 1: not the answer. And in that respect, as you're building

2575
02:07:20,880 --> 02:07:23,839
Speaker 1: a roster, you can afford to have a big ticket

2576
02:07:23,960 --> 02:07:27,520
Speaker 1: guy on your offense while your rookie quarterback is still

2577
02:07:27,600 --> 02:07:32,640
Speaker 1: on his initial deal, so it doesn't hurt you. The

2578
02:07:32,760 --> 02:07:35,680
Speaker 1: only way it really kills you is if is if

2579
02:07:35,800 --> 02:07:38,520
Speaker 1: you're trying to keep in line and pay both those

2580
02:07:38,600 --> 02:07:41,800
Speaker 1: guys top dollar. So I'm not I'm not at all

2581
02:07:42,040 --> 02:07:45,280
Speaker 1: blinking an eye at this money. He deserves it. He's awesome.

2582
02:07:45,600 --> 02:07:51,360
Speaker 1: He's probably the most naturally gifted receiver in the NFL,

2583
02:07:51,480 --> 02:07:53,839
Speaker 1: and he's just and for it to do it at

2584
02:07:53,880 --> 02:07:56,880
Speaker 1: his size too, and to make the catches that he does.

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02:07:57,280 --> 02:08:01,360
Speaker 1: I mean, he's just He's phenomenal, all right, NFL True

2586
02:08:01,400 --> 02:08:03,440
Speaker 1: and false. We do this every day, Joe. It's presented

2587
02:08:03,440 --> 02:08:06,480
Speaker 1: by Yancey's, fancy New York's artists and cheese. True false.

2588
02:08:06,560 --> 02:08:08,640
Speaker 1: You get to choose. The last night's game, did you

2589
02:08:08,720 --> 02:08:12,080
Speaker 1: watch it? Arizona and Dallas? They had the NFL. NBC

2590
02:08:12,640 --> 02:08:15,600
Speaker 1: on the NFL unveiled a new development, the green zone,

2591
02:08:16,240 --> 02:08:19,280
Speaker 1: in which they show you by coloring the field where

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02:08:19,360 --> 02:08:21,040
Speaker 1: the first down yard a chance to be. Now, you've

2593
02:08:21,040 --> 02:08:24,320
Speaker 1: always had the yellow line to indicate first down. NBC's

2594
02:08:24,360 --> 02:08:27,840
Speaker 1: green zone was a disappointment. True false. I'm saying false.

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02:08:27,920 --> 02:08:29,800
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, I give him credit. They're trying something

2596
02:08:29,800 --> 02:08:32,080
Speaker 1: a little bit different. Here's what the yard did you

2597
02:08:32,160 --> 02:08:33,600
Speaker 1: have to cover to get a first down? I don't

2598
02:08:33,600 --> 02:08:35,720
Speaker 1: have a problem with that, and it's preseason. This is

2599
02:08:35,760 --> 02:08:38,200
Speaker 1: when you experiment. No, it's not a disappointment. I say false.

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02:08:38,320 --> 02:08:43,080
Speaker 1: I mean it's no highlighted puck. Way back in the day,

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02:08:43,120 --> 02:08:45,720
Speaker 1: we remember that. Yes, that was bad. That was bad.

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02:08:45,760 --> 02:08:47,440
Speaker 1: That was bad. It's like you were playing a video

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02:08:47,520 --> 02:08:49,760
Speaker 1: game while while watch Fox that did that. I think

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02:08:49,800 --> 02:08:53,480
Speaker 1: so that was that was a bad, bad look in hockey.

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02:08:53,640 --> 02:08:57,000
Speaker 1: I think suffer as a result of that. Because it

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02:08:57,040 --> 02:08:58,960
Speaker 1: happened probably like twenty years ago and I'm still talking

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02:08:58,960 --> 02:09:03,880
Speaker 1: about it. It doesn't bother me. I mean, it's just

2608
02:09:04,000 --> 02:09:07,720
Speaker 1: on the field. I mean if it was highlighter green

2609
02:09:07,920 --> 02:09:10,560
Speaker 1: or something like that, it blends in. So yeah, I

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02:09:10,800 --> 02:09:12,800
Speaker 1: look good. I think all right with people are just

2611
02:09:12,840 --> 02:09:14,520
Speaker 1: complaining to if they don't do it, that's fine too.

2612
02:09:14,720 --> 02:09:17,880
Speaker 1: That's usually like with like if Facebook or Twitter or

2613
02:09:17,920 --> 02:09:20,040
Speaker 1: Instagram has a new interface and you're gonna have a

2614
02:09:20,080 --> 02:09:22,280
Speaker 1: bevy of people going, I hate the new interface taken

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02:09:22,360 --> 02:09:25,160
Speaker 1: to the old one. It's just rabble, rebel rebel True

2616
02:09:25,200 --> 02:09:27,720
Speaker 1: or false? Part two? Sam Donald ready to be an

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02:09:27,800 --> 02:09:29,840
Speaker 1: NFL started with the New York Jets. I'll let you

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02:09:29,920 --> 02:09:31,760
Speaker 1: go first. True false. What do you think? I don't

2619
02:09:31,760 --> 02:09:33,560
Speaker 1: know if he's ready to be a starter, but I

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02:09:33,680 --> 02:09:36,320
Speaker 1: think he's ready to be the start of the Jets.

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02:09:36,560 --> 02:09:39,520
Speaker 1: If that makes sense, Yes, because that he is the

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02:09:39,600 --> 02:09:44,040
Speaker 1: best that they've got. I like Teddy, although I'd want

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02:09:44,080 --> 02:09:47,440
Speaker 1: to see Teddy go elsewhere because it's clear his future

2624
02:09:47,600 --> 02:09:50,720
Speaker 1: is not with the Jets, just because they're investing in

2625
02:09:50,840 --> 02:09:54,320
Speaker 1: Sam Donald. It's good that he's been able to get

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02:09:54,360 --> 02:09:56,800
Speaker 1: back on his feet and do some things, but I

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02:09:56,920 --> 02:09:59,920
Speaker 1: think his best years might be in a different look

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02:10:00,280 --> 02:10:02,200
Speaker 1: other than New York. You say falls for Donald, I

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02:10:02,280 --> 02:10:04,560
Speaker 1: do as well. Not ready, but you're right. I mean

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02:10:04,640 --> 02:10:07,520
Speaker 1: the Jets look, you know, it's it's amazing really with

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02:10:08,280 --> 02:10:09,920
Speaker 1: you know where they're at and where they've been in

2632
02:10:10,000 --> 02:10:12,400
Speaker 1: recent years. But apparently they're ready to take their lumps

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02:10:12,440 --> 02:10:15,080
Speaker 1: with a rookie quarterback, and there will be lumps. I

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02:10:15,120 --> 02:10:17,800
Speaker 1: think Donald is very talented, very highly regarded here among

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02:10:17,840 --> 02:10:21,480
Speaker 1: the personnel people here, but ready to win first year.

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02:10:22,440 --> 02:10:24,320
Speaker 1: I don't think so ready to be an NFL starter,

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02:10:24,800 --> 02:10:26,920
Speaker 1: not in an ideal situation, but he's likely to be

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02:10:26,960 --> 02:10:30,720
Speaker 1: the starter. There's a very floor friendly quarterback. But I'm

2639
02:10:30,760 --> 02:10:33,240
Speaker 1: not sure where that sealing is right. That's the difficulty.

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2648
02:11:07,800 --> 02:11:10,280
Speaker 1: today show? We had Jason Croom in here today caught

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02:11:10,320 --> 02:11:13,640
Speaker 1: the touchdown the seventeen yard touchdown passed yesterday from Nathan Peterman,

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Speaker 1: and Groom talked about Nathan Peterman, who he played with

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02:11:16,840 --> 02:11:21,200
Speaker 1: in college at Tennessee. Yeah, I think it's quay Well,

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02:11:21,280 --> 02:11:22,800
Speaker 1: I mean you want to see everybody on the same

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02:11:22,840 --> 02:11:25,080
Speaker 1: play well, I mean he'll want to step out there.

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02:11:25,160 --> 02:11:27,600
Speaker 1: Somebody wanted the same uniform as you. Not do well.

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02:11:28,520 --> 02:11:31,400
Speaker 1: Pierman is a great dude. Like you love to talk

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02:11:31,440 --> 02:11:36,240
Speaker 1: to him. He's very like, he's very religious. You get

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02:11:36,280 --> 02:11:40,080
Speaker 1: to talk to him. But he's a good man. He's

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02:11:40,120 --> 02:11:42,200
Speaker 1: a good man and pretty good quarterback this summer for

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02:11:42,240 --> 02:11:45,960
Speaker 1: the Bills. Also, we learned today from Gregg Cosell from

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02:11:46,280 --> 02:11:50,280
Speaker 1: NFL from NFL Films, a senior producer there for several years,

2661
02:11:50,360 --> 02:11:54,320
Speaker 1: executive producer and analysts on NFL Matchup, Great Coseell talked

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Speaker 1: about what he saw from Bill's quarterback Nathan Peterman. Just

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02:11:58,960 --> 02:12:01,800
Speaker 1: there's a different sense of timing and rhythm to Peterman.

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02:12:02,120 --> 02:12:03,760
Speaker 1: You know, he would hit his back foot, the ball

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02:12:03,800 --> 02:12:07,560
Speaker 1: would come out. Now, to be fair, he clearly was

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02:12:07,640 --> 02:12:11,520
Speaker 1: protected better. Now obviously he's playing with second unit aligneman.

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02:12:11,720 --> 02:12:14,600
Speaker 1: He's also playing against some second unit you know, a

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02:12:14,680 --> 02:12:18,320
Speaker 1: second unit defense for the Bengals, But he was protected better.

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02:12:18,440 --> 02:12:20,880
Speaker 1: But you just saw a sense of rhythm to how

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02:12:20,960 --> 02:12:25,440
Speaker 1: he played. And that's you know, simple throws like why

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02:12:25,600 --> 02:12:28,440
Speaker 1: stick to the tight end, you know, throws that you

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02:12:28,560 --> 02:12:32,480
Speaker 1: just have to complete in the NFL. Peterman completes those throws.

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02:12:32,760 --> 02:12:35,680
Speaker 1: They ran the same route concept with Peterman as they

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02:12:35,720 --> 02:12:38,320
Speaker 1: did with Alan, and Peterman has a much better feel

2675
02:12:38,400 --> 02:12:40,640
Speaker 1: for the timing of his drops syncing up with the

2676
02:12:40,720 --> 02:12:44,440
Speaker 1: depth of the routes. Great Cosell on Nathan Peterman's game.

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Speaker 1: So our Twitter poll today, are you comfortable with the

2678
02:12:47,320 --> 02:12:50,680
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bill's quarterback situation? We talked a lot to Great

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02:12:50,720 --> 02:12:54,080
Speaker 1: Cosell and Chris Brown about why. On Twitter, fifty five

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02:12:54,120 --> 02:12:56,320
Speaker 1: percent of you said, no, you're not comfortable with where

2681
02:12:56,360 --> 02:12:58,080
Speaker 1: the Bills are at as far as quarterbacks right now,

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02:12:58,160 --> 02:13:01,200
Speaker 1: forty five percent say yeah, you're okay with it. M Joe.

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02:13:01,280 --> 02:13:03,360
Speaker 1: Do we learn more today? Sean McDermott meets with the

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02:13:03,440 --> 02:13:05,240
Speaker 1: media about an hour and fifteen minutes away. Do you

2685
02:13:05,280 --> 02:13:07,120
Speaker 1: think he announces this? Where we're going, this, what we're

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02:13:07,120 --> 02:13:09,640
Speaker 1: gonna do. I think there's a chance he announces. I'm

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02:13:09,680 --> 02:13:13,160
Speaker 1: not sold that he'll announced, but perhaps he knows already

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02:13:13,240 --> 02:13:15,040
Speaker 1: what the decision is going to be. And I think

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02:13:15,080 --> 02:13:16,520
Speaker 1: we're all kind of on the same page here. I

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02:13:16,600 --> 02:13:20,360
Speaker 1: think Nathan Peterman through three preseason preseason games, the three

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02:13:20,640 --> 02:13:23,600
Speaker 1: games that count towards this, because the fourth one certainly doesn't.

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02:13:24,480 --> 02:13:26,600
Speaker 1: I think I think it's pretty clear that that Nathan

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02:13:26,640 --> 02:13:28,640
Speaker 1: Peterman has been the best of the bunch and is

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02:13:28,720 --> 02:13:31,320
Speaker 1: the most prepared to take over the starting job for

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02:13:31,400 --> 02:13:33,600
Speaker 1: this He's pretty clear. I'm sorry to interrupt. I think

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02:13:33,600 --> 02:13:35,880
Speaker 1: it's pretty clear also that it's time, right, it's time

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02:13:35,920 --> 02:13:38,160
Speaker 1: for them to make this decision and move forward. You

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02:13:38,680 --> 02:13:42,000
Speaker 1: need to move on from that part of your summer

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02:13:42,200 --> 02:13:44,320
Speaker 1: and now move toward the regular season. That's right, YEA,

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Speaker 1: Joe is back tomorrow. Thank you Joe for this today,

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02:13:46,600 --> 02:13:49,080
Speaker 1: Absolutely Joe Bascalia. We'll be back with us tomorrow from

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