1 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:06,440 Speaker 1: You're listening to Disinformed, a mini series from There Are 2 00:00:06,440 --> 00:00:13,320 Speaker 1: No Girls on the Internet. I'm Bridget Todd. Did you 3 00:00:13,360 --> 00:00:16,319 Speaker 1: watch Saturday Night Live last week? If you did, you 4 00:00:16,360 --> 00:00:18,840 Speaker 1: probably saw a skit a lot of people are criticizing 5 00:00:18,920 --> 00:00:21,919 Speaker 1: for unfairly portraying Black folks and our hesitancy around the 6 00:00:21,960 --> 00:00:25,840 Speaker 1: COVID nineteen vaccine. In the skit, Daniel Caluya plays a 7 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:28,080 Speaker 1: black doctor trying to take evinced as a black cousins, 8 00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:31,040 Speaker 1: aunties and uncles to get the COVID nineteen vaccine by 9 00:00:31,040 --> 00:00:33,199 Speaker 1: offering the money, and none of them will do it. 10 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:36,760 Speaker 1: What about you? You know I can't take that vaccine. 11 00:00:36,800 --> 00:00:39,319 Speaker 1: I am a Christian who told you Christians can't take 12 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:43,720 Speaker 1: the vaccine Facebook. Okay. So here's the problem. If we're 13 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:46,360 Speaker 1: going to talk about vaccine hesitancy in the black community, 14 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:49,240 Speaker 1: we also need to be putting it in context. Our 15 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:52,560 Speaker 1: country has a deep and lasting legacy of medical racism 16 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:55,760 Speaker 1: where black folks were ignored or actively mistreated, and that 17 00:00:55,920 --> 00:00:59,200 Speaker 1: still has far reaching impacts today. So it's not difficult 18 00:00:59,240 --> 00:01:01,640 Speaker 1: to understand why some black folks might be hesitant about 19 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:05,120 Speaker 1: vaccines and the medical field in general, and any conversation 20 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:08,080 Speaker 1: that does not include that reality as a necessary context 21 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:12,520 Speaker 1: is incomplete, and Furthermore, making black communities the face of 22 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:15,720 Speaker 1: vaccine hesitancy is not actually borne out by the data. 23 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:20,040 Speaker 1: Black folks are actually enthusiastic about the COVID nineteen vaccine. 24 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:22,800 Speaker 1: We're the fastest growing demographic to say that we would 25 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:25,959 Speaker 1: like to get vaccinated. The Kaiser Family Foundation found that 26 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:29,880 Speaker 1: Black adults saw the largest increase in vaccine enthusiasm, with 27 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:31,960 Speaker 1: the portion of those who have gotten or say they 28 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:36,319 Speaker 1: will get the vaccine jumping to from just in December. 29 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:41,319 Speaker 1: And what about white vaccine hesitancy? According to Pew, white 30 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:44,560 Speaker 1: evangelicals are the least likely demographic to say they'll get 31 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:48,680 Speaker 1: vaccinated of the year round forty one million white evangelical 32 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 1: adults in the United States, Around of them say they 33 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:55,360 Speaker 1: will not get vaccinated against COVID nineteen. And yet we 34 00:01:55,440 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 1: still make black folks the face of vaccine hesitancy. Despite 35 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:02,160 Speaker 1: COVID dispreport ortionately impact in the Black community and our 36 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:06,440 Speaker 1: enthusiasm for getting vaccinated, black folks are still getting vaccinated less. 37 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:10,400 Speaker 1: Black folks and Latinos are only about six as likely 38 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:13,799 Speaker 1: to have had the COVID nineteen vaccine. As their white counterparts, 39 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:17,360 Speaker 1: according to data from the Kaiser Family Foundation. That's because 40 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:21,519 Speaker 1: right now, the real issue isn't hesitancy, it's equal access. 41 00:02:22,440 --> 00:02:24,360 Speaker 1: An NPR study that you can find a link to 42 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:28,080 Speaker 1: in the show description found deep disparities in black communities 43 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:31,280 Speaker 1: when it comes to accessing the COVID nineteen vaccine. They 44 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 1: found that in some states with lots of black folks, 45 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:37,240 Speaker 1: states like Louisiana, Texas, and Alabama, black and brown neighborhoods 46 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:41,359 Speaker 1: had fewer vaccine distribution sites, while few wider neighborhoods were 47 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 1: without one. Not to mention the fact that many vaccine 48 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 1: registration portals require internet access, and Pew found that black 49 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:51,959 Speaker 1: households are less likely to own a computer. We've also 50 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 1: seen white, wealthier folks jumping the vaccine line and misusing 51 00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:59,639 Speaker 1: programs meant to vaccinate black, brown, and low income communities. 52 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:02,079 Speaker 1: I know here in d C where I live, people 53 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:04,119 Speaker 1: looking for vaccines had to get up early and keep 54 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:06,640 Speaker 1: refreshing the city's website in the hopes of getting an 55 00:03:06,639 --> 00:03:10,000 Speaker 1: open slot. And what if you had to work or 56 00:03:10,040 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 1: deal with childcare. Not everybody has the ability to spend 57 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:15,360 Speaker 1: a few hours refreshing a website and the hopes of 58 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:18,440 Speaker 1: getting an open vaccine slot. The bottom line is blaming 59 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:22,320 Speaker 1: black hesitancy without any context for the black community's low 60 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:26,080 Speaker 1: vaccination rates is actually really harmful because it minimizes the 61 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:29,640 Speaker 1: importance of equal access to healthcare and instead shift the 62 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:32,400 Speaker 1: onus away from our medical institutions and puts it on 63 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:36,080 Speaker 1: the choices of individual black people instead. I'm happy to 64 00:03:36,080 --> 00:03:39,160 Speaker 1: say that I got my first dose of the Maderna vaccine. 65 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 1: I was even happier to learn that it was developed 66 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:43,760 Speaker 1: by a team led by thirty four year old doctor 67 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:47,120 Speaker 1: Kismika Corbett, a black woman scientist who leads a team 68 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:50,119 Speaker 1: at the National Institute of Health. Here's what she told 69 00:03:50,120 --> 00:03:53,880 Speaker 1: CNN's Abbey Philip. There is a subset of people who 70 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:57,080 Speaker 1: just hasn't been listened to around their health issues and 71 00:03:57,120 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 1: around you know, technology, really and at this point, I 72 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:03,800 Speaker 1: just I just felt like it was time for me 73 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 1: to sit down and empathize with an entire group of 74 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 1: people who had been ignored. And I know it may 75 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:12,440 Speaker 1: not make for the most hilarious SNL skit, but when 76 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:15,040 Speaker 1: we talk about black folks and vaccines, I hope we 77 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:17,800 Speaker 1: can also make room to amplify the fact that this 78 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:20,719 Speaker 1: amazing black woman is a big part of the reason 79 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:23,040 Speaker 1: why we have one of the vaccines in the first place. 80 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:32,039 Speaker 1: If you've enjoyed this podcast, please help us grow by subscribing. 81 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:38,400 Speaker 1: Got a story about an interesting thing in tech, or 82 00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:40,240 Speaker 1: just want to say Hi. We'd love to hear from 83 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:43,240 Speaker 1: you at Hello at tangoi dot com. 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