Speaker 1: Center. Nice to be with you.
Speaker 2: As always, Joe Biden thought it was a good idea
Speaker 2: this week to head to a college campus, give one
Speaker 2: of those grand commencement speeches and throw Israel under the
Speaker 2: bus in the process, all the gain votes of young people.
Speaker 3: Well, it really is sad.
Speaker 4: Every day every week we see the Democrats getting worse
Speaker 4: and worse. They are abandoning Israel and the droves, and
Speaker 4: they are embracing Hamas. And they're doing it because they
Speaker 4: think they get political advantage. They're doing it because that's
Speaker 4: where their radical base is. We're going to talk about that,
Speaker 4: but we're also going to talk about legislation that I
Speaker 4: filed this week to force every Democrat in the Senate
Speaker 4: to vote and to choose between Israel and Hamas. Where
Speaker 4: do you stand. We're going to force them and get
Speaker 4: them on record. We're also going to talk about major
Speaker 4: legislation that I'm filing today actually in the US Senate
Speaker 4: concerning IVF in vitro fertilization protecting IVF. IVF is an
Speaker 4: incredibly powerful technology that has enabled millions of parents to
Speaker 4: have children, and right now the Democrats are engaged in
Speaker 4: a lot of political deception and attacks suggesting IVF is
Speaker 4: in jeopardy. I'm filing legislation today to ensure that IVF
Speaker 4: is federally protected no matter what. And finally, we're going
Speaker 4: to talk about the Trump trial. We're going to talk
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Speaker 4: getting scared that they're planned planned kangaroo court might not
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Speaker 3: We're going to get into that as well.
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Speaker 1: Let's really get into this week.
Speaker 2: I think it's fair to say that Joe Biden proved
Speaker 2: the American people there is nothing he's not willing to
Speaker 2: do to undermine Israel if it means getting the thirty
Speaker 2: thirty five and under vote that is upset with him,
Speaker 2: over standing with Israel early on, to stick with him
Speaker 2: through election day, and it got a lot worse this week.
Speaker 4: Well, that's right, the Democrats more and more captive of
Speaker 4: the pro Hamas wing of their Democrat party. And pause
Speaker 4: for a second and reflect on how utterly insane it
Speaker 4: is that there is such a thing as a Prohamas
Speaker 4: wing of a major political party in America. But that's
Speaker 4: the simple reality. And young people in particular, Look, this
Speaker 4: is the consequence of our universities being twisted and taken
Speaker 4: over by the radical left, taken over by the cultural
Speaker 4: Marxist who are poisoning our young people. It's what I
Speaker 4: wrote about in my latest book book, Unwoke, how to
Speaker 4: Defeat Cultural Marxism in America. But these young people are
Speaker 4: being taught that Palestinians are victims and the Jews are oppressors,
Speaker 4: and that the answer is violence and revolution against the
Speaker 4: so called oppressors and its absolute vicious lies. But unfortunately
Speaker 4: in the Democrat Party it seems there are no adults.
Speaker 4: There is no one who will actually stand up and
Speaker 4: point out there's not a moral equivalency between Hamas terrorists
Speaker 4: murdering civilians and raping children, and the IDF attacking and
Speaker 4: killing terrorists to protect civilians. Those are not the same.
Speaker 4: One is evil and one is good. There is no
Speaker 4: Democrat Joe Biden's not capable of that clarity, and so
Speaker 4: instead he went this past week to Morehouse College and
Speaker 4: take a listen to what he had to say.
Speaker 5: Innocent Palestinians caught in the middle of all this, men,
Speaker 5: women and children killed, are displaced in despit, in desperate
Speaker 5: need of water, food, and medicine. It's a humanitarian.
Speaker 1: Crisis in God.
Speaker 5: That's why I've called for an immediacyaswire, an immediacy. Squire
Speaker 5: stopped the fighting.
Speaker 2: To be clear, he's saying, Israel stopped defending yourself, Stop
Speaker 2: killing the terrorists that came after you. You know where many
Speaker 2: of them are, You're continuing to try to find them.
Speaker 2: And kill them because you understand that they're going to
Speaker 2: keep coming after you if you don't kill them. They've
Speaker 2: declared war on you. And he's saying, hey, cease fire.
Speaker 2: And it's really a talk to Israel, not so much
Speaker 2: to Moss.
Speaker 4: Well, it's actually a talk to American radicals. It's a
Speaker 4: talk to young people. And listen, Joe Biden. You listen
Speaker 4: to what he just said there. You know, if someone
Speaker 4: didn't know anything, they'd be like, gosh, why did Israel
Speaker 4: attack those poor, helpless people. Well, there was this thing
Speaker 4: called October seventh that somehow doesn't seem to be very
Speaker 4: relevant to Joe Biden, to the Democrats calculus where Hamas
Speaker 4: terrorists deliberately carried out the greatest mass murder of Jews
Speaker 4: in a single day since the Holocaust. They deliberately targeted civilians,
Speaker 4: They targeted children, that they mutilated, corpses. It was horrific.
Speaker 4: Those Hamas terrorists are monsters. And Israel responded quite naturally,
Speaker 4: quite rightly, by saying it was going to utterly eradicate Hamas. Understand,
Speaker 4: Israel is not attacking civilians. Israel is attacking Hamas terrorists.
Speaker 4: Now there are civilian casualties. Those civilian casualties happen because
Speaker 4: Hamas wants them to happen, because they use human shields.
Speaker 4: They use Palestinian civilians, they hide the terrorists. They put
Speaker 4: their headquarters in Gaza, in the basement of a hospital
Speaker 4: to use Palestinian mothers and babies as human shields. They
Speaker 4: put missiles in the basements of elementary schools to use
Speaker 4: Palestinian children as human shields. And it is Hamas that
Speaker 4: wants Palestinian civilian casualties. Why Because useful idiots like Joejoe
Speaker 4: Biden and the rest of the Democrat Party and the
Speaker 4: rest of the liars in the corporate media will then
Speaker 4: say what Joe Biden just said, which is Israel is
Speaker 4: the bad guy.
Speaker 2: And Hamas lies a lot. And I think that's part
Speaker 2: of what people really need to understand. Hamas slied about
Speaker 2: the attack on the hospital, for example, early on, and
Speaker 2: they said that Israel bomb the hospital. We found out
Speaker 2: it was a rocket that Hamas shot and a rocket
Speaker 2: that basically misfired, landed in the parking lot, blew up
Speaker 2: in that parking lot thing goods.
Speaker 1: It didn't actually hit the hospital itself.
Speaker 4: It was reported there were five hundred casualties in the hospital.
Speaker 4: It turns out there were zero. I understand zero and
Speaker 4: five hundred are often confused. It was reported that Israel
Speaker 4: fired the rocket. That's kind of sort of right, except
Speaker 4: it was actually Palestinian Islamic Jahad and actually it was
Speaker 4: fired from inside guys. And understand, look, Hamas and Palastinian
Speaker 4: Islamic Jahad they don't have technology. So Israel uses smart bombs,
Speaker 4: bombs that are targeted, so that when they're aiming at
Speaker 4: a terrorist, they hit the terrorist. Hamas does not. Hamas
Speaker 4: fires thousands and thousands of rockets that have no guidance.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they say, away is Israel a.
Speaker 4: Tube with some propellant and some explosive and often shrapnel
Speaker 4: to kill civilians, and they'll fire it up in a
Speaker 4: general direction. But a substantial percentage of the rockets Hamas
Speaker 4: fires end up hitting Gaza because they don't know where
Speaker 4: it's going. They're just throwing them in the air. And
Speaker 4: by the way, they're also not aiming at military targets.
Speaker 4: It's not like they're aiming in Israel and saying those
Speaker 4: are soldiers, let's shoot at them. They just fire him
Speaker 4: in the direction of Israel. And their view is if
Speaker 4: I'm killing.
Speaker 1: Jews, it's good, it's a good rock.
Speaker 3: Hamas is happy if we are murdering Jews.
Speaker 2: Well, and Hamas lies about their numbers. Yes, John Kirby
Speaker 2: at the White House this week, he gave numbers. He
Speaker 2: was asked about numbers, numbers that have multiple times been
Speaker 2: proven to be lies from Hamas about their casualties, civilian casualties,
Speaker 2: specifically trying to turn the world against Israel. And yet
Speaker 2: he's taking these numbers as if they are truth. Take
Speaker 2: a look at him at the White House.
Speaker 6: I've a question about the death toll of Gaza.
Speaker 1: Does President Biden.
Speaker 7: Have confidence in the casualty numbers coming out Gaza. The
Speaker 7: President watches this very very closely, and you've heard him
Speaker 7: talk about the more than thirty thousand people that have
Speaker 7: been killed, and he said the majority of women and children.
Speaker 7: He's also said that's unacceptable. And as we've maintained time
Speaker 7: and time again, the right number of civilian casualties out
Speaker 7: to be zero. But in terms of you know what
Speaker 7: specific number we're quoting or citing on any given day,
Speaker 7: I mean, we're doing the best we can working with
Speaker 7: the Israelis to ascertain the scope of the civilian suffering,
Speaker 7: but it's obviously immense.
Speaker 6: Is his confidence in the numbers come out of Gaza
Speaker 6: increased since late October when he said he had no
Speaker 6: confidence in the numbers.
Speaker 7: You've heard the President talk about the numbers and talk
Speaker 7: about the concern and the most important thing, aside from
Speaker 7: obviously how tragic that is, is what we're doing to
Speaker 7: alleviate and help improve conditions in Gaza, including through this
Speaker 7: temporary here today.
Speaker 2: This is how much they're pandering. It was, the numbers
Speaker 2: are terrible. We don't trust them us, they're lying to us.
Speaker 2: But now, well, well we need these numbers to be somewhat
Speaker 2: high so we can justify demanding a seasfire from Israel.
Speaker 4: Well, you know, it's interesting as you listen to John Kirby,
Speaker 4: have you noticed that Kareem John Pierre has been utterly sidelined. Yeah,
Speaker 4: that she's a terrible liar. And I'll give Kirby credit.
Speaker 4: He's a much better liar than she is. He's much
Speaker 4: more skilled at it. He sounds more reasonable as he's
Speaker 4: sitting there repeating Hamas's propaganda, and he says, well, you've
Speaker 4: heard Joe Biden do it many times. Yes, that's the problem.
Speaker 4: Joe Biden amplifies hamas propaganda, and that is part of
Speaker 4: the strategy. That's something we've talked about on this podcast
Speaker 4: a lot. Hamas's strategy. They are not strong enough alone
Speaker 4: to defeat Israel. Their strategy is to put out lies
Speaker 4: and also to use human shields to have Palestinian civilian
Speaker 4: casualties that Hamas wants. In fact, when Palestinian civilians try
Speaker 4: to flee harms way, Hamas will stop them and say no,
Speaker 4: we need you there to die. And the reason they
Speaker 4: do it is they know the useful idiots will repeat it. Look, listen,
Speaker 4: listen to Joe Biden and back again at his commencement address.
Speaker 5: What rights of the policy and people have. I'm working
Speaker 5: to make sure we finally get a two state solution.
Speaker 1: The only solution, the only solution center.
Speaker 2: So the only solution is if the terrorists are involved,
Speaker 2: they got to have their own state. And we got
Speaker 2: to keep saying this no matter what Hamas does, no
Speaker 2: matter how horrific the next attack is, they have to
Speaker 2: have his two state solution.
Speaker 1: And that's and he said it out loud.
Speaker 2: He said, what we've been implying here for quite some
Speaker 2: time that this is the president of United States of
Speaker 2: America undermining Israel every chance he gets.
Speaker 4: And that has happened literally from day one when Joe
Speaker 4: Biden was sworn in. Understand Joe Biden has spent his
Speaker 4: entire career in public life, over fifty years, consistently undermining Israel.
Speaker 4: This has been constant. Now the media repeats, O Biden's
Speaker 4: a friend of Israel. Look, you and I talked about
Speaker 4: in this pod before, how in nineteen eighty two, when
Speaker 4: I was eleven years old and you were an infant,
Speaker 4: Joe Biden was threatening to cut off weapons to Israel
Speaker 4: in nineteen eighty two in the Senate. He has been
Speaker 4: doing this a long long time. When he came into
Speaker 4: the White House, they systematically attacked Israel. They also funneled
Speaker 4: over one hundred billion dollars to Iran. They funded Iran,
Speaker 4: They funded Hamas. Now they funded Hamas both through Iran
Speaker 4: because ninety percent of Hamas's funding comes from Iran. They
Speaker 4: funded Hesbela through Iran because ninety percent of Hesbela's funding
Speaker 4: comes from Iran. But they also sent hundreds of millions
Speaker 4: of dollars to Gaza, which they knew would go directly
Speaker 4: to Hamas and be used for terror killings. Joe Biden,
Speaker 4: which he somehow didn't tell this to the college kids
Speaker 4: in the commencement address, in a very real sense, funded
Speaker 4: the death squads that murdered Jews. And you know what,
Speaker 4: some of those radicals if he told them I paid
Speaker 4: for the October seventh death squads, some of those campus
Speaker 4: radicals would cheer for that, because if you look at
Speaker 4: what they're cheering on their takeover on campuses, they are
Speaker 4: cheering the mass murder they are promising from the river
Speaker 4: of the sea more October seventh, October seventh, every day.
Speaker 4: Now here's some good news, which is we're going to
Speaker 4: force Senate Democrats to go on record. So this past week,
Speaker 4: the House of Representatives passed legislation to force Joe Biden
Speaker 4: to provide the weapons to Israel that it needs to
Speaker 4: defend itself. Now, I remember Joe Biden lied to the
Speaker 4: American people and lied to Congress when we were having
Speaker 4: the big fight over the supplemental a couple weeks ago.
Speaker 4: He said, we got to do this to get weapons
Speaker 4: to Israel as soon as Congress passes it.
Speaker 3: What did he do?
Speaker 4: He said, oh, we're not going to give weapons to Israel.
Speaker 4: Psych I mean, he's like Charlie Brown with Lucy in
Speaker 4: the football. That's exactly what he's done. So he is
Speaker 4: blocking the weapons to Israel. And by the way, listen
Speaker 4: to John Kirby, he's still blocking him. Give John Kirby a.
Speaker 7: Listen son a withholding. There was a pause put in
Speaker 7: place on a shipment of the two thousand pounds bombs
Speaker 7: and that pause is still in place.
Speaker 3: So it's still in place.
Speaker 4: And by the way, do you know what they're freezing
Speaker 4: the precision guided munitions what actually lets them hit the
Speaker 4: terrorists and not civilians. So understand, because the Biden White
Speaker 4: House is so unhappy about civilian deaths, they want to
Speaker 4: take away the precision guided munitions that allow Israel to
Speaker 4: avoid hitting civilians that only hit terrorists.
Speaker 3: It is.
Speaker 4: These are a bunch of Israel hating left wing radicals
Speaker 4: that are setting government policy. The House passed legislation this
Speaker 4: past week that would force the Biden administration to provide
Speaker 4: the weapons that Congress has already appropriated and directed to
Speaker 4: be given. Now in the House, virtually every single House
Speaker 4: Democrat voted. Now, it was very close to a party
Speaker 4: line vote. Come over to the Senate.
Speaker 3: What do you think is going to happen in the Senate.
Speaker 1: I'm assuming Schumer is going to say, we don't like
Speaker 1: any of this.
Speaker 4: Schumer has already said he will not allow a vote.
Speaker 4: So understand Chuck Schumer. If Joe Biden is the greatest
Speaker 4: friend Hamas and Hesbela has ever had, Chuck Schumer is
Speaker 4: the second greatest friend Hamas and Hesbel has ever had.
Speaker 2: And by the way, and historically, Schumer's always said, oh,
Speaker 2: I'm an Israel guy.
Speaker 4: He's defined himself as the defender of Israel. Yeah, and
Speaker 4: he is right now defending Hamas and supporting Joe Biden
Speaker 4: and cutting off weapons to Israel. Like Chuck Schumer, the
Speaker 4: language and words he said for thirty years are all
Speaker 4: being turned on their head because Schumer, just like Biden,
Speaker 4: just like the rest of the Democrats, is terrified of
Speaker 4: the radical left that is their base. Now Schumer is
Speaker 4: majority of leader controls whether we have votes. He said,
Speaker 4: I will not allow a vote on what the House
Speaker 4: has passed to force the weapons to be delivered to Israel.
Speaker 3: Here's the good news.
Speaker 4: Last week I filed two different pieces of legislation one
Speaker 4: legislation in the Senate to force the Biden administration to
Speaker 4: provide those weapons to Israel.
Speaker 3: It's called the Armact.
Speaker 4: Now, Schumer's not going to allow a vote on that either,
Speaker 4: he doesn't want to vote on that. But secondly, I
Speaker 4: filed what is called Warpwers resolution focusing on the Biden
Speaker 4: administration that has built this floating peer in Gaza. Several
Speaker 4: hundred million dollars. It sent the military in to build
Speaker 4: the floating peer. The purpose of the peer is to
Speaker 4: be able to fund quote aid to Gaza to Hamas.
Speaker 4: They basically have built this so that they can get
Speaker 4: supplies to Hamas because Joe Biden is very focused on
Speaker 4: resupplying Hamas while while he's boycotting Israel. Now, why does
Speaker 4: it matter that it's a war powers resolution, Because because
Speaker 4: the legislation, the War Powers Act, has a provision that
Speaker 4: makes a war powers resolution privileged. Now that sounds like
Speaker 4: a lot of Senate gobbledegook, but it's important. What it
Speaker 4: means is I can force a vote and Schumer can't
Speaker 4: stop it. That the Majority leader has no ability to
Speaker 4: stop a vote once you fire file a war powers resolution,
Speaker 4: Because what it's focusing on is cutting off US military
Speaker 4: action without congressional authorization. And in this case, the military
Speaker 4: is who Biden used to build theer. And by the way,
Speaker 4: Biden is saying to Israel right now, hey, the Israeli
Speaker 4: military's got to protect this peer that we built. You've
Speaker 4: got a risk is Raeli soldiers to protect the peer
Speaker 4: that is there to resupply Hamas, and we're going to
Speaker 4: have US soldiers also at harm's way. So the War
Speaker 4: Powers resolution within two weeks, we will have a vote
Speaker 4: on the Senate floor, and Schumer has no means of
Speaker 4: stopping it. By the way, it's also a voter to
Speaker 4: threshold of fifty and not sixty, which means if two
Speaker 4: Democrats actually decided they supported Israel, we could prevail and
Speaker 4: pass my resolution on the floor of the Senate.
Speaker 2: So a guy like John Fetterman, for example, who's been
Speaker 2: very outspoken on Israel, is somebody that you could say, hey, you.
Speaker 4: Never know, look I'm gonna try. I don't know how
Speaker 4: he'll vote, but this is a vote. The Biden administration's
Speaker 4: policy is they've decided they support Hamas and not Israel.
Speaker 4: That is exactly backwards what any rational policy would be
Speaker 4: this v I'm going to force is going to let
Speaker 4: every Senate Democrat decide which side are you on? Do
Speaker 4: you want to support Hamas or do you want to
Speaker 4: support Israel. Now, my prediction is we'll lose on a
Speaker 4: party line vote or close to party line vote. That
Speaker 4: I think the Democrats are quite happy today being the
Speaker 4: party that supports Hamas. That they agree with what Joe
Speaker 4: Biden told those college kids.
Speaker 2: And that's because their data says, if you want to
Speaker 2: get reelected, you need younger voters, and they're afraid they're
Speaker 2: going to stay home, but they don't go anti Israel.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Look, part of it is political.
Speaker 4: Part of it is as we've talked about a lot
Speaker 4: of times, Trump broke the Democrat Party. Their minds have
Speaker 4: melted and as a result, they are now on the
Speaker 4: hard hard left. And the cultural Marxist worldview divides the
Speaker 4: world into oppressors and victims, and today's Democrats believe Jews
Speaker 4: are oppressors. And importantly, ben I did not say israelis Yeah,
Speaker 4: great point. If you look at what the radicals on
Speaker 4: campus are chanting, chanting about Jews. At the University of Washington,
Speaker 4: the radicals yelled, go back to the ovens. I mean,
Speaker 4: that's evil, it is grotesque, but that is what they
Speaker 4: are calling for. You recall we talked about this on
Speaker 4: an early podcast, the protest at Columbia, where you had
Speaker 4: this Columbia student, this blonde white girl who apparently is
Speaker 4: the daughter of multimillionaires, who was wearing a mask and
Speaker 4: holding up a sign with an arrow pointed at Jewish
Speaker 4: students behind her waving an Israeli flag an American flag,
Speaker 4: and she said al Casom's next target, Alkasam is the
Speaker 4: military arm of Hamas. She was calling for the murder
Speaker 4: of fellow students because they are Jewish. Let me point out,
Speaker 4: as far as we know, the Columbia students waiting the
Speaker 4: Israeli flag were not themselves Israeli, but it didn't matter
Speaker 4: to her. If they were Jews, they should be murdered.
Speaker 4: And she was by all appearances not Middle Eastern, she
Speaker 4: was Palestinian. She's just a blonde, white liberal who's been
Speaker 4: told Jews are oppressors, so they should be killed. It
Speaker 4: is a sickness that sadly many of the administrators in
Speaker 4: many of the faculty not only agreed with, they are
Speaker 4: the ones who created the sickness, who inculcated the students,
Speaker 4: who taught the students this garbage.
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Speaker 2: You know, Boebe, you understand Israel right now? How concerned
Speaker 2: are they about not getting these munitions and being paused?
Speaker 1: And how long could this pause last?
Speaker 4: Look, I think Israel will fight and will continue to
Speaker 4: fight to defeat Hamas regardless of what Biden does. Israel
Speaker 4: is a strong nation with a strong industrial base, and
Speaker 4: they'll continue fighting.
Speaker 3: This is about.
Speaker 4: Domestic politics for the Democrats. This is about Michigan. This
Speaker 4: is about Nevada, This is about dearborn Michigan. This is
Speaker 4: about young people. There's a reason Biden went to a
Speaker 4: college campus to give this speech because he's trying to
Speaker 4: speak to the radicals, the people that are waving HEZBLA
Speaker 4: flags sadly at BioMA Mater Princeton. That's whose votes Biden wants,
Speaker 4: that's whose votes the Democrats want, and nobody speaks with
Speaker 4: any clarity. He didn't stand up and say, let me
Speaker 4: tell you right now, if you threaten the safety of
Speaker 4: another student, if you threaten to harm someone because he
Speaker 4: or she is Jewish, you will be arrested, You will
Speaker 4: be prosecuted, you should be expelled, and if you're a
Speaker 4: foreign student, you will be deported. That's actually what a
Speaker 4: real president would do. He didn't do what Dwight D.
Speaker 4: Eisenhower did when bigoted Democrats, and by the way, it
Speaker 4: was Democrats then too, would not let African Americans be
Speaker 4: integrated into school.
Speaker 3: Dwight D.
Speaker 4: Eisenhower set in the National Guard. Joe Biden hadn't sent
Speaker 4: in the National Guard. Joe Biden hadn't sent in the
Speaker 4: Civil Rights to Department to protect the rights of Jewish students.
Speaker 4: He hasn't sent in the FBI to investigate the foreign
Speaker 4: funding we've talked about in recent podcasts. The Chinese communists
Speaker 4: funding behind this, the Cuban communists funding behind this. Also,
Speaker 4: how much is this tied up with international terrorist networks?
Speaker 4: He's not investigating any of this. Instead, when given a choice,
Speaker 4: Joe Biden, the Democrats choose Hamas over Israel.
Speaker 3: It's tragic.
Speaker 2: I want to move out on to something else that
Speaker 2: also is really important. There's been a lot of conversation
Speaker 2: around I protecting IVF. My three kids are from in Vitro.
Speaker 2: Without it, I don't think we would have the family
Speaker 2: we have now. It allowed us to have a family,
Speaker 2: and it is such an important issue. You understand that
Speaker 2: and are moving forward with some really I say, cool
Speaker 2: legislation bipartisan to protect IVF, and that's going to be
Speaker 2: coming up. Tell us about that and how this came about.
Speaker 3: Well, look the broader context.
Speaker 4: This really started to become a political issue when the
Speaker 4: Alabama Supreme Court issued decision a couple months ago, and
Speaker 4: that case concerned a couple who had used IVF and
Speaker 4: had frozen embryos and the clinic negligently allowed those embryos
Speaker 4: to be destroyed. So they were supposed to preserve those embryos,
Speaker 4: and the clinic screwed up, and so the couple was
Speaker 4: in a lawsuit and the Alabama Supreme Court concluded that
Speaker 4: the embryos should be protected. And what happened was, look,
Speaker 4: that was a decision protecting the rights of parents to
Speaker 4: have IVF, but the media to go nuts and to say, oh, well,
Speaker 4: this is the Alabama Supreme Court saying you can't do IVF,
Speaker 4: and then the Democrats leapt on it and it became
Speaker 4: a major national issue that this is all about. Republicans
Speaker 4: want to ban IVF, which is a flat out and
Speaker 4: total lie. And my view, I strongly and unequivocally support IVF.
Speaker 4: I think IVF is an incredible technology. You know Bennett's
Speaker 4: amazing two percent of all live bursts in America.
Speaker 3: Are through IVF.
Speaker 4: Yeah, millions of babies have been brought into the world,
Speaker 4: have seen life, millions of parents have become moms and
Speaker 4: dads because of IVF. It is an amazing technology and
Speaker 4: I strongly supported And the Democrats made a very cynical
Speaker 4: political decision, which is listen for today. For Democrats, abortion
Speaker 4: is front and center after hating Israel, It may be
Speaker 4: their most important issue. But Democrats also realize their position
Speaker 4: on abortion is wildly unpopular. Crats support unlimited abortion with
Speaker 4: zero restrictions, partial birth abortion right up until the moment
Speaker 4: of delivery. That is so radical and extreme. Only nine
Speaker 4: percent of Americans agree with that. Ninety one percent of
Speaker 4: Americans say that's too much. So Democrats can't defend their
Speaker 4: actual position, by the way, that is the position of
Speaker 4: every single Democrat in the Senate, because they voted in
Speaker 4: favor of legislation striking down every single restriction on abortion
Speaker 4: right up until the moment of birth. So what they
Speaker 4: do instead is they want to talk about IVF and
Speaker 4: they want to say, ooh, the big bad Republicans.
Speaker 3: Want to take away IVF.
Speaker 4: And so they engage deliberately in deception, and then the
Speaker 4: corporate media is eagerly complicit in doing so because they
Speaker 4: share the same radical views on abortion that they don't
Speaker 4: want to talk about the radical views, so they want
Speaker 4: to talk instead about IVF. Well, today I've introduced legislation
Speaker 4: in the Senate called the IVF Protection Act. I teamed
Speaker 4: up with Katie Britt, Senator from Alabama, she's a good friend.
Speaker 4: The two of us have drafted it. It's very simple legislation.
Speaker 4: It's straightforward, and it says that no state or local
Speaker 4: government can ban IVF that IVF is fully protected at
Speaker 4: the federal level, that it will be a decision of
Speaker 4: parents if you want to have children using IVF, that
Speaker 4: will be a federally protected right. This bill should be easily.
Speaker 3: A bipartisan bill.
Speaker 4: This bill, if enacted and written into law, would put
Speaker 4: into law the protections that protect Look, look, your kids
Speaker 4: came through IVF.
Speaker 3: What did that mean mean to you? What did that
Speaker 3: mean for your family?
Speaker 1: I mean it got to be a father and my
Speaker 1: wife got to be a mother.
Speaker 2: And we tried for four years to have kids, and
Speaker 2: you keep going to doctors, and you keep going to
Speaker 2: these visits, and then finally they're like, look, we think
Speaker 2: probably your only option is going to be IVF.
Speaker 1: Let's hope this works.
Speaker 2: And we went through it and we prayed, and you
Speaker 2: saved money because it wasn't covered by insurance. It's very
Speaker 2: expensive and it was one of those It was probably
Speaker 2: the hardest time I think in our life, in our
Speaker 2: marriage because you know, my wife want to be a mom.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's and when you.
Speaker 4: Go that's a huge part of both of your lives
Speaker 4: and and everything your legacy as much as you do
Speaker 4: in life nothing will be important than the children you
Speaker 4: raise and the legacy that goes forward.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you've got to protect it. I'm thankful that
Speaker 2: you're doing this. I'm thankful that you're teaming up. I
Speaker 2: hope that Democrats will say this is a non political
Speaker 2: issue and we should push for this because everybody needs
Speaker 2: to be able to have this and that wright and
Speaker 2: be protected.
Speaker 1: Have you heard from Democrats? Are they going to get
Speaker 1: on board? Because this doesn't seem political to me.
Speaker 2: I know so many people that have voted for Joe
Speaker 2: Biden that have done IVF, voted for Bernie Sanders that
Speaker 2: did IVF.
Speaker 1: It's not political. It's one to have a family.
Speaker 4: So we filed the legislation today. Today, Katie Britt and
Speaker 4: I have an op ed in the Wall Street Journal,
Speaker 4: So you should go and read the op ed we
Speaker 4: wrote in the Wall Street Journal. It's in today's journal today.
Speaker 4: I'm I'm in New York on Monday. I'm going to
Speaker 4: be in New York City with Katie. We're going to
Speaker 4: do a number of media interviews starting early in the
Speaker 4: morning talking about this legislation. I think it is really
Speaker 4: important legislation. This should be legislation that passes the Senate
Speaker 4: one hundred and nothing. Every senator agrees with the substate policy.
Speaker 4: Katie and I are going to try to pass it,
Speaker 4: and we're going to go to the Senate floor and
Speaker 4: seek to pass it. And what I do not know
Speaker 4: is if the Democrats will block it. And if they
Speaker 4: block it, it would be, even for today's Democrat party,
Speaker 4: an incredibly cynical move, because what it would be is
Speaker 4: the Democrats saying, you know what, we want to have
Speaker 4: the issue. We want to accuse Republicans of trying to
Speaker 4: ban IVF, and so we're going to prevent you from
Speaker 4: protecting IVF so we can say you want to ban it,
Speaker 4: so then we can falsely claim you want to ban it.
Speaker 4: That would be the only conceivable reason the Democrats could
Speaker 4: object is if they do not want to protect IVF. Now,
Speaker 4: the Democrats have their own bill that claim is about IVF,
Speaker 4: but it actually is an abortion bill focused on their
Speaker 4: broader abortion agenda, and they know that this is a
Speaker 4: very narrow bill that puts in clear, ironclad protections for IVF.
Speaker 4: As I said, every senator, Republican and Democrat agrees with
Speaker 4: that policy. So the only question is will the Democrats
Speaker 4: play politics so much that they will oppose a policy
Speaker 4: that they agree with because they don't want to give
Speaker 4: up on the issue. I don't know. I hope not,
Speaker 4: but we'll see. We'll see what the Democrat reaction to
Speaker 4: it is.
Speaker 2: Is this one of those moments where vertical listeners, people
Speaker 2: that share this show on social media should definitely reach
Speaker 2: out to their senators and say, hey, this is a nonpartisan,
Speaker 2: non political issue we're asking to support it, and call
Speaker 2: with that spirit in mind to their senator no matter
Speaker 2: where they live.
Speaker 4: Absolutely, yes, Look, this is something IVF has support. Nearly
Speaker 4: ninety percent of American support IVF. IVF is profoundly profamily
Speaker 4: is it is a miracle. Look for most of human
Speaker 4: hell history, if parents are not able to conceive that
Speaker 4: they're just left childless and in sorrow, and it is
Speaker 4: through the miracles of science that that that that parents
Speaker 4: who struggle with infertility are able to be moms and
Speaker 4: dads and raise raise babies and children. That that is
Speaker 4: a wonderful, beautiful thing. And and and I hope we
Speaker 4: see some bipartisan unity the next week or two.
Speaker 3: We'll find out.
Speaker 1: Center.
Speaker 2: I hope you have great success on this built We're
Speaker 2: going to keep everybody updated on it as it moves forward. Finally,
Speaker 2: I do have to call out the media. This week
Speaker 2: was one heck of a week in New York City
Speaker 2: where you're headed. Uh And it made me laugh because
Speaker 2: the media now seems to be hedging their bets that
Speaker 2: Donald Trump may win in a New York court because
Speaker 2: of the disaster that's been this trial with brag at
Speaker 2: the end and with Cohen, to the point where even
Speaker 2: CNN said this, take a look.
Speaker 8: If I'm enjoying, I've been warned that Michael Cohen lawes.
Speaker 8: The prosecutors have said this, They've set it up. I'm
Speaker 8: prepared for that. I'm prepared for. He's lied in the
Speaker 8: past repeatedly. I don't know if a jury is prepared
Speaker 8: for he lied to this jury two days ago, but
Speaker 8: now he's really telling the truth.
Speaker 6: If you have a cooperating witness that can't tell the
Speaker 6: truth of a plea allocution, that means that that witness
Speaker 6: is basically worthless.
Speaker 8: He test fright. He lied to the judge in this
Speaker 8: priority case.
Speaker 6: And then Todd blanches cross examination. So basically, whenever you
Speaker 6: get into a problem, it's always blamed somebody else. Blame
Speaker 6: President Trump, blame the judge. How many places do you
Speaker 6: have to go where this guy has lied many times
Speaker 6: under oath and it's always somebody else's fault, it's not
Speaker 6: his fault. And that's pretty powerful evidence to a jury
Speaker 6: to say, you shouldn't believe anything this guy says. And
Speaker 6: if you have to rely on his testimony in any
Speaker 6: fashion whatsoever in order to convict Donald Trump, ie, in
Speaker 6: order to fix Donald Trump's intent, you have a reasonable doubt.
Speaker 6: You can't have anything else but a reasonable doubt.
Speaker 2: Seven people are on that panel. Seven And this is
Speaker 2: how they've been covering the Trump trial the entire time.
Speaker 2: It's the center of the world for Democrats. They wanted
Speaker 2: to be guilty. They've gone all in with their most
Speaker 2: brilliant minds, and now at the very end they're like, yeah,
Speaker 2: it's probably not gonna happen because this guy's.
Speaker 1: A liar and the whole case is a joke.
Speaker 3: Look, they are obsessed with the Trump trial.
Speaker 4: CNN covers it from from dawn to dust, constantly, breathlessly.
Speaker 4: They get so excited when Stormy Daniels is on the
Speaker 4: stand and talking about sex with the president. Oh, that
Speaker 4: that makes their their their cold little hearts go pitter
Speaker 4: Pat's at CNN. But it says something when even Cianna
Speaker 4: is like, wow, this case is weak and it only
Speaker 4: takes one. They are getting very, very nervous. And and
Speaker 4: here play the second clip. Anderson, let me ask you,
Speaker 4: if I could put you in the jury box, having
Speaker 4: just witnessed that piece of cross examination, do you.
Speaker 2: Have doubts that that conversation happened the way Michael.
Speaker 8: Cohen testified on his direct examination that I think it's
Speaker 8: absolutely absolutely, I think devastating. I mean for Michael Cones's
Speaker 8: credibility on this, I mean, in this one particular topic,
Speaker 8: whether it's you know, he just didn't. I mean, it's
Speaker 8: it's hard to I don't know. Yes, I think if
Speaker 8: I was a juror in this case watching that, I
Speaker 8: would think this guy's making this up as he's going along, right,
Speaker 8: or he's making this particular story up. You know, Todd
Speaker 8: Blams was pointing out you were testifying just on Tuesday
Speaker 8: in this court, you know, and all morning along he's
Speaker 8: been pointing out, you know, inconsistencies in Michael Conees's testimony,
Speaker 8: or at least questionable aspects of Michael Cone's testimony, but
Speaker 8: nothing that you would necessarily as a juror think, Okay,
Speaker 8: that's clearly a lie. Maybe that's just a miss he
Speaker 8: was misunderstanding, or you know, he was bragging or whatever.
Speaker 1: This one.
Speaker 8: Todd Blam's clearly saved this to write before the lunch break.
Speaker 8: I'm assuming because it was just so well pres and
Speaker 8: just point by point walking through the story, which at
Speaker 8: first seemed you know why this seems like a ridico's story.
Speaker 8: It's some fourteen year old at sending him, you know,
Speaker 8: nasty text messages and he's gonna call it Keith Schiller
Speaker 8: about it. And then you realize you look at that
Speaker 8: he showed the phone lines that the prosecutor had shown,
Speaker 8: and it's the phone call that that that that Michael
Speaker 8: Cohen had previously talked about. I think it is severely
Speaker 8: damaging to Michael Cohnes's testimony.
Speaker 2: I mean, this has got to be like their worst
Speaker 2: day ever at CNN went to watch this and they're saying,
Speaker 2: they're going, look, Mike Cohen's a liar.
Speaker 1: The whole case is a shanged.
Speaker 3: Look.
Speaker 4: I'm actually wondering if CNN, like like if the hosts
Speaker 4: had become day drinkers now, like like if they're slamming
Speaker 4: back to Kila shots, the sadness that they're saying it now,
Speaker 4: now listen to be clear, Trump could still be convicted. Sure,
Speaker 4: this is a wildly left wing prosecutor, this is a
Speaker 4: wildly left wing judge, and this is a jury drawn
Speaker 4: from a New York jury pool, so presumably it is
Speaker 4: an overwhelmingly democrat jury. I don't believe any conviction. If
Speaker 4: there is one, we'll stand up on appeal. But look,
Speaker 4: given how bad things went, we could see an acquittal.
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Speaker 3: Why uh?
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Speaker 4: is the prosecution that has the burden of proof. The
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Speaker 3: Number two.
Speaker 4: Any defendant has a Fifth Amendment right protected in the
Speaker 4: Constitution not to testify at his own trial, and most
Speaker 4: defendants choose not to. But number three, for any lawyer
Speaker 4: to put Donald J. Trump on the stand under oath
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Speaker 4: a left wing judge who's a partisan, who is not
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